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In conversation with Sheryl Sandberg, plus open-source AI gene editing explained

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嘉宾:Sheryl Sandberg

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§01Introducing Sandberg and the ground rules

A host introduces Sheryl Sandberg through her operating record. He says she joined Google in 2001, when it was private with $20 million in revenue, and left in 2008 at $22 billion. At Facebook, he says, revenue went from $270 million in 2008 to $117 billion by the time she left.

The occasion is a documentary Sandberg made. The host says he watched it in several sittings, describes it as focused on sexual violence by Hamas during and after the October 7 attacks, and says it answers claims that none of it happened. He adds that she speaks for under 90 seconds on screen. These are his characterizations; the film itself is not in the transcript.

The hosts set terms before the conversation: questions are not pre-vetted and none is off limits, and guests cannot strike material.

We're not journalists.

They say this means no gotcha journalism, though one host may still ask a tough question. They also call for good faith and say they are not final authorities.

§02Remembering Dave Goldberg and the fake Chamath account

Sandberg recalls her husband's sudden death nine years earlier. She credits Chamath with handling logistics and, more importantly in her telling, with showing up for her children for months and years, including teaching them poker because Goldberg would have. Her children played poker the night before the taping.

She then reveals that Goldberg ran the satirical fake Chamath Twitter account. She says he did not write every tweet and the friends helped, but he wrote many himself, in bed beside her.

He would laugh out loud.

The hosts read examples, including a Pinterest valuation jibe and a 2012 line about Las Vegas having no sales tax on Loro Piana. One host doubts Goldberg knew the brand and suggests someone else supplied it. Sandberg ends the segment with a joke that Goldberg enjoyed the persona about half as much as Chamath enjoys being himself.

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