Gino & AJ, from Speedweed
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Some cool boss guy
Gino and AJ from LA Speedweed you are live. Are you tweeting? I was retweeting
your tweet
Joe just recorded a jingle for us. So yeah, that's your jingle. Let's pull that
That should be your new ringtone
first of all Gino has been my friend for a long time and he's basically
He's the guy that turned me on to this whole LA marijuana delivery scene that
is going on in LA, which was
amazing for
Comedians and for anybody who has a medical card where you could just call this
cool dude
And he would tell you what the great stuff is and you hang out with him and
talk with him and you could buy it
And it was all totally legal and above board. It was all good
But somewhere along the line
some fuckery ran afoot and they they came up with some new political rules that
keep marijuana delivery services
from operating busy
explain it because you essentially the way they've set it up is like you would
have to have had a
License to operate in each one of the houses that you're delivering to is that
how it works? Well
It used to be called the Wild West, you know out here in California for medical
marijuana
and it it very much was until they wanted to regulate it and
most of the people wanted it regulated because they wanted marijuana so yes,
let's take let's have marijuana yes
Let's regulate it. However hold on people think that marijuana is legal in
California, but it is it is not absolutely not what we have is
Protection from prosecution. That's what we have which means that law
enforcement can knock your door down
Take your stuff take your weed take your cash take whatever you got there, and
you can show them all the papers in the world
And they're like that's great. That's cool
We're glad you're legal bring it to the judge
And you'll be good to go and you'll get your stuff back in a year and you guys
will be fine and that's happened to us
So but do you get your stuff back because I've heard a lot of people that have
never gotten their stuff back?
We always have we so how long have they kept your stuff for?
Oh over a year here, so so if you have if you have weed over a year, they're
not they're not taking care of it
It's done. So that weeds useless. It's useless. So you lose how much money?
It was like that. Well, you don't have to say it is substantial substantial
amount of money of course, and so they give you the cash back
They'll give you it again. They actually cut you a check. Yes
I cut you a check for the cash from the district attorney's office
I have one hanging on AJ's wall in his office of them returning
thousands a few thousand dollars to us
Which because again when there was any sort of trouble it was all right
You have to go see a judge you go see the judge and judge looks at the
paperwork and in our first case the judge said
we've never seen a more compliant company in California and
Dismissed without prejudice and our lawyer asked instead of dismissing without
prejudice. We actually would like that entered in
To the record that you're calling LA speed we the most compliant marijuana
company you've ever ever dealt with so we had it entered into the end into the
Into the record didn't translate though. It didn't check I have a lawsuit on my
desk
That is I'm holding my hands 18 inches apart by the way that is that high I'm
just lawsuit from the city
It's just super unfortunate because it's obviously not the will of the people
You know whenever something's not the will of the people like it's it's clear
by all the gentlemen in this room
We're all grown adults and we all enjoy marijuana. We all have responsible
lives. We all do stuff
We all get things done and we all enjoy it. Yeah, and we're taxpayers. We're
normal people. We're not freaks
We're not like ne'er-do-wells or
Someone who's clinging off the system and and fucking up, you know
Social systems that we've set up for people that are trying to get by in this
world. No
We're just folks. We're just guys. Yeah, and let's talk about what you said
just before the will of the people
When they voted on this
This proposition D which is a zoning law. Hold on. Have any of you guys even
ever heard of zoning ordinance?
Measure D has anyone heard of that?
No, no, of course not of course not right has anyone heard of it, but hold on
we haven't heard of any zoning
That's that nobody does ever that's the thing is nobody pays attention to
zoning laws
So now speed weed and services like ours that are doing things the right way
are closed in the city
Because of a zoning ordinance that was passed because all these pot shops are
opening up
So they said they're opening near schools and churches gotta protect the
children
Isn't it hilarious that opening them near churches is an issue mm-hmm
It should be it's it's politics in church and state it's politics
Well, they they say that during the old days of the Catholic Church when they
would walk down the aisle with that incense thing
They would be burning marijuana
Like that's what they would be burning and they'd be wafting it through the
room as they walk by
You know, you know those things that they carry around those things had weed in
them
there's a pamphlet online about
That's probably one of them Todd McCormick quotes
But probably told me that I'm like, oh, that's a fact for sure. I'm not even
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gonna bother looking that up
Sounds so good, but certainly cannabis has been part of the human record since
since the beginning, right?
It's a bizarre time we live in and it's
It's a long
Complicated explanation if someone who's never heard it before is like, well,
how did it get illegal?
Most of it got illegal because of William Randolph Hearst. Yes, which is
bananas that here we are in
2016 and this fucking crazy man from the 1930s who was running all these
newspapers
Running everything and the the man that Citizen Kane's based on the Orson Welles
movie
He was just a maniac and he decided to get marijuana
To make it illegal so that hemp would be illegal. Correct?
It was yeah the textiles. Cause he owned the newspapers, he owned the timber
industry
And you've had it is insane that the the propaganda that this guy created in
the 1930s
Even though we recognize it. Everyone knows it. It's a fact you can watch it.
Yep
You can watch reefer badness. You can see what's written down what they were
attempting to do to make it illegal
The fact that it still sticks in
2016 and you couldn't smoke that stuff that they that they have any no no
No, it's not psychoactive. Oh, well that is the craziest part like we add it on
it
We sell hemp, but we have to buy it from Canada
Yes buy it from Canada and bring it down to the United States because even
though it's legal and it's not psychoactive
These farmers they can't grow it major. They're starting to try to change those
laws, but as far as I know
I mean, I don't know of any large-scale hemp growing operations here in the
United States not yet
Not yet dangerous, but China's just just dedicated millions of acres
You won't your own you will have to worry about your own government
When you're growing a plant that you make clothes out of you make paper
That's all they're doing with it like let's be really clear on that that the
hemp that they're growing
You can't get high off of it. It's totally non-psychoactive ever yet. It's
federally
Illegal mm-hmm. There's a fucking plant that makes the best clothes
It makes way stronger fabric way stronger paper. You can eat it. It has all the
essential amino acids
It's like a full complete amino acid profile. It's like one of the very few
plants that's like that you can make bio fuel of it
You can make fucking livestock food you look at old Ironsides USS Constitution
the flag and that and the and the sales are made of hemp
And they're still those are the original things from hundreds of years ago
It's one of the best things that nature's ever created this fucking fiber. It
has this incredibly powerful fiber like um
Who the fuck was it one of my friends has an actual hemp stalk and I was over
his house
I picked it up, and I was like whoa this is like a fucking alien plant right
because it's hard as like a hardwood
Tensile strength stronger than steel when it's wound yeah, so it feels hard
like oak, but it's light like balsa wood yeah
It's really weird you can make spaceships out of the shit
It feels like it's light and strong and we're not using it because it's illegal
it's fucking crazy crazy parachutes used to be made out of it
I know George Bush senior jumped out of a plane in a with a hemp parachute
You know so so all canvases well all canvases the Mona Lisa was painted on
cannabis
It was made on hemp our founding fathers had hemp fields in their farms because
the hemp cleans
the fallow fields after wheat fucks up your fields and corn fucks up your
fields hemp goes in there cleans it all out it's so
It's it's such an identifier of how goofy people are here in 2016 that that's
an issue
Yeah, that we're dealing with this weird hemp thing because it's related to
marijuana
Like someone does anyone hear this though? I mean did people really with with
Trump and Hillary and Bernie
Do people really care that they do they don't know most people don't know most
people have no idea most people think there's some health
Related risks and that's reason why it was made illegal
That's why we're it's so for such a frustrating time for us because we start
talking about zoning ordinance D and people are like
I'm so bored can't we just get baked? What do you mean you're out of business?
Well, don't you feel like how long you guys in the business about six years six
years? Yeah
Um, how much has changed in six years so much since I've had a card I got my
card in
It was the 90s 90s. Yeah, so there was once there's just one state. Yeah here
Yeah, we got in the business. There's about five states that were legal now
There's 24 when Florida is gonna go that's gonna be 25 plus DC
It's half the country. That's crazy and CBD is if you conclude CBD there's only
like seven or eight states that are not participating
Like seven or eight states. I guess no I think about it. I guess it was more
like 2001
It's that's still way early, but my point was gonna be that it's way more
relaxed now. It's way more prevalent
I used to have to go to Englewood. I go to Englewood Wellness Center. Mm-hmm.
It is in the hoods. Yeah
Yeah, one of the gentlemen that worked there got shot and that's when I stopped
going
But that's how that's how it was when we started right when we started a ha
wasn't much of a smoker when I moved out here to, California
And you know he was condescending now you bring condescending
You guys fucking with each other
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So so you know
We were working in technology for the government before I we started to be
together who you guys are CIA
I know it and I know it infiltrated you know, don't put me in Sturgill Simpsons
category
Let me tell you this story real quick Sturgill Simpson was on stage and some
dude yells out in the audience Sturgill
Please tell me you're not really a CIA assassin
And he just shrugged and went on the next song
Wheeler Walker jr. How funny is that dude? Oh my god, he's hilarious
So so AJ was
We were working in a stressful environment working for Congress
At the time and he was actually
Drinking to medicate himself as we were you know working doing technology
coding and things like that and he started playing with
Neurotropics to say you know what I'm not gonna drink anymore and I said
instead of neurotropics
Why don't you try cannabis, you know what I was that guy who had the shelves of
Modofinil and neuropeptin and all and you know
L-theanine all these different crazy things that you can get on or off the
market and Gino's like just smoke this
Just put all that shit away put the booze away and just smoke this
I'm like no it's gonna make me freak out
Well one thing that nootropics do help it helps me a maintain memory while
under the influence because it's one of the
Most slippery things about being under the influence of pot is the memory is
like the memory gets real slippery sure
Yeah, I think I gave him alpha brain also when we first first started
Yeah, that'll help some people say that nicotine actually helps in some strange
way
I use nicotine every day. Yeah, that's your Nicorette. I've never smoked
You know he started he started chewing the nicotine gum, you know a few years
ago. I love it
Yeah, well, it's this is what it is like nicotine itself
apparently has similar effects to a lot of nootropics and
That it does something to stimulate your brain function, but smoking is fucking
horrible for yes, so
Like it's not really the getting of the nicotine which is so confusing because
Automatically assume nicotine equals lung cancer. Everybody dies. That's so sad.
Why do they do it?
And then you why are you doing nicotine and you go no?
It's the smoking of these chemicals. It's fucking up your lungs. It's giving
you cancer irritating your lungs
You know when people cough it's harsh fucks your lungs up you get cancer you
die. That's what's going on
It's not the nicotine's fault. No, it's not yeah
So nicotine itself is some sort of a very strange compound that sort of like
stimulates your mind a little bit
Yeah
I think it's the drug that just knows like if you're wired it relaxes you if
you're a little bit cloudy headed
It gives you a boost of energy dude. It sounds like it's in your veins. You're
like you're that's your friend
Yeah, it's like the drug who knows man the drug knows the drug knows a boy has
no name the gum
It's so gross. Yeah, I love it deep in man. Look at you the drug that knows
that's hilarious
The four milligram coated fruit flavor from Target. I'm terrible so me as a
brother
I was oh, I want I wanted to do what I could to try and to help help
This situation it wasn't didn't really need to be helped that much, but I said
look you should just try try marijuana
It's it's what regulates my mood and has since I was was I've been smoking
almost daily since 15 years old
and
So I so I said let's let's let's go to the doctor and
And he didn't want to go to the doctor with me
No, there's no because this is back in the early days when everything was
sketchy
So we go to this office building that is up in San Fernando and there's like
barbed wire on the building
We go in the sketchy office building and I'm freaking out the whole time. You
know our dad's a cop
You know we've got clearance from the government. What do we this is crazy and
she knows just like chill. It's it
We're fine, you know chew your nicotine
Let's go and we go into this office this doctor's office. It's clearly not a
doctor's office and
They say you know the doctor will see you both now
And now I'm freaking out thinking like what I'm gonna have to like get undressed
in front of my brother
And sit on the paper with this doctor
I don't know what I'm doing and we just go into a room and there's a table and
he sits across from us and he asked me first
Unfortunately, why do you need weed? And I said, you know, and I'm staring at
him
My brother's looking at me and I can feel him going don't fuck this up like don't
fuck this up
So he's like oh you have stress. I said yes. You have trouble sleep. I said yes
He says okay
You have weed and he called it weed he called it weed and then he goes to my
brother
Why do you need weed and my brother goes I have stress and trouble sleep he's
okay
You have weed and we had got these papers and it felt so sketchy
but we went to a dispensary that afternoon and it was like
Those early people that started open dispensaries like the Inglewood Wellness
Center those people like the pioneers in the wild wild west
That is a gangster move. Yeah
Well, it took so the criminal element to be in business at that point
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And that's why we're going back to these laws that say you had to be in
business before
2007 in order to even be considered in these few that are allowed
Well, let's explain let's explain the whole zoning thing so that the issue is
delivery, right?
That's right issue is so prop D is what governs all of LA's marijuana laws.
That's a zoning law
So there's a hundred and thirty five shops that are allowed those are the ones
that have been operating since 2007
They're called pre ICOs any other shop you go to is illegal any delivery
service you use in the city of LA is
Illegal according to Proposition D which we are fighting in court by the way.
We are fighting that and
that law just came out in in
2012 no for 2014 2013 2014
so we had we had been in business for years we had already been working with
the state government for years on
On the process of legalization. We advised the state assembly. We're the only
retail company on the on the Board of Equalization
Stakeholder panel. I know I'm in the weeds right now
But like we are the company that instead of suing us you should have just said
hey guys
What's a good way to do this? You know that's important to talk about that
You know the Board of Equalization is kind of like the IRS for the state if you're
a commercial business
You pay your taxes to the Board of Equalization
Well the Board of Equalization
Chose our company as the one retail company that they wanted to present to the
legislature to the people with
With we presented with the New York State. I mean the California State Troopers
The Highway Patrol the Teamsters insurance company and an app company and us
can I just say the Board of Equalization
Just that that name it sounds like some sort of an overseer in a Woody Allen
movie about the future
They kind of are the Board of Equalization like that like that's some like
fucking utopian nightmare movie right fear if to send to
How are you equal?
Well, you know just try to be a good neighbor and not good enough white man
See any business owner here's Board of Equalization and they're freaking out
like they're they're laughing they're laughing
But they're also afraid what is equalization mean it was not a real word that
seems like they made that word up now that I think of it
That's kind of fucked up that it's called equalization like we're gonna take
the business's money and give it to y'all here
So we can all get equalized yeah, that doesn't that doesn't work
No, it doesn't some people are lazy. Yeah, it doesn't work. There's got to be a
way though
They think that a universal basic income that giving people $13,000 though like
giving everybody through like some that Michael Shermer
Actually just tweeted this who's that really intelligent skeptic guy
And they think giving people $13,000 a year like giving it to everybody would
reduce crime
Would reduce poverty it would give people chances to pursue other things if
they had universal basic income
It's a really strange concept because it's one of those things that everybody
has an e-jerk reaction to I definitely did I heard it
And I was like what get out of here. You can't just give people money people
are too lazy
but the more I read about it and the more I see people who are
Quite a bit more educated than me on this subject
They think that it's possible that doing something like that would actually
cost less money in the long run because it would start a
Cascade of positive events that giving people enough money to get by on right
that that would start like a
Series of events in a lot of these people's lives where issues would be taken
care of that are insurmountable
Otherwise, yeah, it'll start some momentum in a positive way and that you're
gonna deal with less crime and you're gonna deal with less violence
So you're gonna deal with less need to deal with the problems and the financial
Repercussions of crime and violence it'll overall cost less money to the
community. I'm skeptical though. My knee jerked
Yeah, I did mine did too and I was first talking about it with my friend Eddie
Wong from Vice from that Vice show. Yeah
What's this fucking shows going on Wong's world or something? Wong's world. Is
that what it is? Yeah
But he brought it up and I was like what get the fuck out of here
And then when I realized that there were a lot of people bringing this up, I
said, okay, well, let me let me put my knee down
Let me just open-mindedly look at this and I'm like, okay, I'm looking in the
port like if you give people money
They're just going to be lazy and they're never gonna get anything done
You're gonna deal with a bunch of lazy people the lotto effect, right?
Like the worst fears that people have when they worry about welfare that you
create a welfare environment where people get accustomed to that
They have no ambition and nothing ever gets done. It's almost a way to poison
people's ambition is to give them money like Switzerland just
Had this thing where they were going to give everybody I think it was like
$2,500 a month just like free income and then
to hope that that would pay for everyone to be like
Just a little bump so they would keep their jobs and stuff like that
And they're like their shitty jobs would feel a little bit better
But then they they denied it and yeah, it didn't pass but that wouldn't be
interesting everybody getting free income
Yeah, that's the idea behind this and Switzerland is like a very inclusive
country where everyone serves in the military and has to participate
That would be a good place to try something like this because America's
obviously a little bit more loosey-goosey with that kind of shit
That we dollar bills y'all right, it's also how much how big is Switzerland
like how many people live there?
I mean, that's that would be like giving universal basic income to LA right,
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you know really that I mean those are the arguments for like
Universal healthcare and all that well it works in Finland. Well, Finland is
like the size of Long Island in Westchester County. That's it
Yeah, you know tiny I mean just think about like the stuff that flies in Canada
Right, you know Canada is a totally different country. They're connected to us,
but they're fucking
Completely different and they're right there. So if anybody says it works for
Canada like there's only 30 million of that's right
They have a huge fucking country and there's only 30 million people and they're
just nicer
They are you just nice if there's a Canadian the room you told you know it
immediately. They're nice
They're like some of the nicest fucking human beings on the planet
It's a one country that I wouldn't think twice. I wouldn't think twice about
moving to Canada. Well, they're ahead of the curve on cannabis for sure
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah delivery is the only option in Canada, right, and it's
government sanctioned
Yeah, the government is essentially this new guy that has gotten in. What's the
new guy's name?
The young guy the young handsome fellow yeah, Trudeau. Thank you. I got to
think of the guy from Doonesbury
The government is also behind their alcohol sales also in in Canada like you
can't buy liquor unless it's through the government
Oh, yeah, I don't know it's a drug dealer. Yeah
Yeah, I kind of I'm very I'm very libertarian so I don't like the government
involved wherever possible
Yeah, they've had some interesting rulings about comedy up there too. There was
there was a one guy that got heckled by some women in a
nightclub in Vancouver and
Apparently they were really drunk and you know things happen in comedy clubs
people get crazy. They yell things out you're serving people drinks
They're gonna get crazy. They're gonna yell right out
so he was yelling things at them and he said a bunch of rude stuff about them
being lesbians but your homophobic stuff and
They sued him and they won
$15,000 I won $15,000
You know what the problem is man, what did once people start hurling insults at
each other?
Like the women hurled insults at the comedian the comedian hurled insults at
the woman. I don't know who started it off
I think that would be imperative to find out who started it off
But I know that the guy was on stage doing stand-up so they're they're not
supposed to be yelling
This isn't a conversation right if they're talking to him I guarantee you
unless he's a
Crowd worker. I don't know if he does he's a guy that works crowds
But I guarantee you most likely he was getting interrupted so he's trying to do
his act for all the people in the room
He was getting interrupted and then it got ugly
Right, and what's the answer to have people sign waivers before they walk in
the comedy clubs? It's silly
It's just you can't you can't you know there's that unspoken of a money a
monetary
Reward for someone that heckled you shouldn't be able to extract money
It's dangerous to a comedy club like that because you go in trying to make it
happen exactly well look you go to a baseball game
You get hit with a foul ball you die you can't sue anybody because it's kind of
a given that
Dangerous shit is flying around balls are fast and hard. You know fuck baseball.
I didn't know that could happen
Comedy Club first rule is you're in the audience shut the fuck up second rule
is they can let the comic
Say what he wants to say and you might get offended. That's the chance you take
going in there
Yeah
I mean I don't want to stand up for the hecklers in any way
But the only way that it could be different is if it's like Rick Ingram works
the crowd constantly
You know talks to people and if you have a thin skin he's hilarious
But if you have a thin skin he'll fuck with you right you know and like maybe
you didn't want that
And so maybe you insult back and you know Rick knows how to handle stuff like
that
But I'm saying if he's one of those kind of comedians that that works a crowd
that's cool
Yeah, but it could have been that he insulted them first
That's the only time that I could see where they would get pissed off
But from what I understand they had been heckling all night that was according
to his version of story
Which it's not like people wait to heckle, you know someone who's a heckler if
there's four comedians in the night and the fourth guy goes up
That person's probably been heckling all night
Right
They're just drunker
Does this scare you though like like doing material in Canada in the future if
it gets heated with like you and a heckler are you gonna be like shit?
This is Canada I better step back a little before I'd call her this and that or
him and this and that
I mean that kind of that kind of opens the door for this to be able to like oh
now
We're allowed to sue if this person if the comedian isn't mean to me
Yeah
Well, it's it's a dangerous precedent to set and does does not make me
comfortable and hopefully I'll never have to deal with it when I'm up there
But what about Montreal though? I mean I've a nightlife there is like makes New
Orleans look like lame
Look like Provo
Montreal's a beautiful town too. I love performing there
I find crowds in Canada to be really polite
I mean I've had some hecklers in Canada, but you're gonna have hecklers when
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you get people drunk
They're gonna fuck it up. The only thing you could do is probably like they're
doing in South Carolina
you just you have to boycott it to
Make some kind of change, you know how they you know boycotting South Carolina
No one's gonna boycott going to Vancouver because of this one. No, no the loophole
is at the end of heckling
You could just say just kidding
You're like a fucking dude that thinks I know what I'll do when a plane crashes
I'll just jump out at the last second right before it hits the ground at the
end go allegedly
Yeah, you don't understand physics
Not that I do, but yeah, I don't know man. It's it's not a good thing
It's definitely not a good ruling the fact that he lost is very dangerous for
well
There's another one going on right now really when yeah another guy got in
trouble
What is his name Chris something or other? He's a comic from Montreal. I think
he speaks both languages
I think he speaks French and English
Chris Wade is that his name you see there? They don't have the pesky first
amendment to deal with no
Yeah, so this is what happened with his general find out this dude's name is a
dude who's getting sued because there was a sick kid
And he made a joke about it, right?
He yeah, the the joke was it was something I'm gonna paraphrase and I'm do a
shitty job
But that a lot of people donated money because this kid was dying
But then he lived for like several years and then the joke was hey, you know,
he's not even sick or something like that
Mike Ward that's it
What what is the joke pull up pull up the joke so we could analyze it?
What did he say no, it's afraid
What was this to say what the joke is? Oh?
Our kids got a serious illness
That's not a snapchat filter
Hmm
Um, we're looking for whatever the joke was it doesn't does it show the actual
joke or no?
No, maybe it might have been too offensive
That's the thing is in this room where it's like no rules. I'm afraid to even
make a comment on that. That's joke
You could play the joke. I'm not gonna laugh. I'm not gonna smirk
There's a bunch of comedians, you know that really enjoy saying ridiculous shit
that they don't really mean
Because it's funny because it's so shocking ridiculous that it's funny
There's a real danger and pretending that those guys are just speaking their
absolute mind and like giving affidavits in court
Relaying incidents with cold hard disengagement from the facts
No, these are comedians trying to say fucked up shit that they don't really
mean and one of the reasons why it's funny
It's because you know
They don't really mean it and they're saying it and it's ridiculous like Brian
Holtzman, right?
He's a great example my perfect example. He's one of my favorite comedians ever
and he's so
Ridiculous. He says things that I don't want to give away any of his material
But he says things that he absolutely does not mean right and he says it in
this character and it's fucking hilarious
But it's a landmine for anybody looking to point to a guy's performance on
stage and try to pretend that
Somehow or another what he's doing is what he really means
Right, and if you see audience members getting angry at it or something
It's it's hard to imagine how they can't see that. It's a character. Yes, you
know, it's not hate speech
It's just a set. I'm just doing material
I maybe think that we're too close to it
Honestly because I think if someone didn't know it might take them a few
minutes like say if you're not a savvy comedy store
Regular type person or someone who enjoys comedy on a regular basis
You could go and watch Holtzman and go what the fuck is going on here?
And that might that what the fuck is going on here might last ten minutes
Before you catch on like that this guy because he'll let you in on and he'll smirk
and and joke in between
You know his his ramblings, but I could see people not getting it
Well, that's the thing he'll jerk and you know make the smirk and be in between
things
But the people who are already mad they skip over that part. Yes, you know,
they just think he's a crazy person
He never justifies though because I mean I think I've seen in your special you
say I
A lot of this is just comedy people. Yeah, but does he ever say no
No, no, no, no, no, he did a 15-minute version of his gay son the other day
I had never seen a full 15-minute version
Yeah, that is the best example of his bits too as far as like the most fucked
up thing you could imagine like in in joke form
But it's obviously not true. It's it's so preposterous when he gets into it. It's
oh my god
It's funny and it could offend people, you know, and if it does to live in a
punitive society that that he can't perform
Be an artist and perform his art because he has to worry about being sued. Yeah,
he's already not making enough money to be sued for exactly
Well, here's the thing you have the right to be offended
But people don't have to agree
With your opinions on things so if you're going to see art right and whether or
not you think stand-up comedy is art
You're creating it right you're creating that this guy is performing art
You either like it or you don't like it and if you don't like it you you don't
have the right to interrupt it
You're supposed to leave just leave that's what a polite person does
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I've seen some stuff that I didn't like and I left I've gotten to see a movie
and I didn't like it and I left
There's nothing wrong with that, but to interrupt it for everybody else. It's
watching the movie
That's a that's a piece of shit move. So this to you rewarding someone who did
a piece of shit move
It's like it's not a good person, you know a good person doesn't heckle
I mean
It's not that people who are hecklers are bad people, but they're drunk and
fucked up and that makes them a pain in the ass
You know, but a lot of drunk fucked up people are actually good people right
here
But when you reward that kind of behavior like this like you could say that you
think that the comedians not funny
You could say don't ever go see him you could cast judgment you could do
whatever the fuck you want
But to say he owes her
Fifteen thousand dollars then it's like okay. Who is the retard in charge right?
Who the fuck said yes to this judge?
Is this a group of people can I sit down with you fucks and talk to you and try
to figure out what the fuck is going on in your mind
Right, you can charge him
AJ what's the punitive rule for the for the labeling?
That you know they have to put the cancer that's proposition 65 you have to
label all marijuana products with this
This warning label that says this product is known to contain chemicals that
may cause cancer
So every even though cannabis is
Known to treat cancer is known to not proven to but known to because we can't
do the right research research
Every piece of cannabis has to have this this label on it or else you can be
fined
For not having this label again punitive society and we got sued we got sued
for not having the labeling on our packaging even though we did
So so they decide to put a lawsuit against four hundred eight hundred eight
hundred eight hundred they just went through weed maps and just sued everybody
Everybody so we're so they just did it just to try to scratch some money out of
you
Yeah, they said we'll make this go away pay us a settlement. We'll make it go
away
Wow, and this is what this person has done to hundreds and hundreds of
businesses
That's how they make their living as she sued us in
2014
Right, that's crazy
And how much have it on it? So we we were sued without even one burden of proof
because when we got it
We're like look or everything has it on so did they just say the lawsuits
invalid or no
No, no to go through with it. No, we still got to go through it cuz you can did
you go through there?
We're we're filing right now and after it's filed then I've got to file a
complaint with the bar and do all this bullshit
Because anybody can sue anybody now and it's really really hurts businesses. It
hurts good people
So how much did they want to settle about $20,000? Oh my god, so fucking
Stealing money from dispensaries because I think they have it
But where they made their money is on I mean every place has to have it if you
walk into Target
You walk into Walmart, they all have to have have this
Thing because anything that has plastics in it or anything. Oh, I see that sign
everywhere now once you get sued
Yeah, you're looking everywhere you see and that that's the law you gotta have
it posted
So just like you never hear the word lesbian in Vancouver again. That's that's
those the glory days are done
Is that what he yelled
Lesbian is that I don't know what he said. I don't remember what he said, but I've
heard worse
so so
It's too litigious of our society. Yeah, well, you can't go
It's not even our society's their society. Well, yeah bigger companies will
just settle because it's easier to just settle but you know
Smaller companies I guess they think cuz marijuana you just have so much money
However, our tax burden is almost 70%
There's there's no real money in it when you're doing things by the book
Right, they just passed another 15% sales tax on top of marijuana
Y'all in California just got passed this week through the Senate and the
Assembly the governor signs that another 15% tax is coming our way
And that gets passed to the consumer
Yeah, on top of the sales tax on top of the city tax on top of excise tax and
some of the cities and counties in California
Having another another 10 or 15% on top of it. They're also taxing the growers
now also
So they're taxing anything that it has anything to do with what you get as a
final product
So if that's the case, why would they be trying to stifle business?
Wouldn't they want to promote business because business is going to give them
more tax revenue?
This is it's just the
It's all kind of paradox. It is it's because and a lot of it is because of law
enforcement unions and and not just them
But prison guard unions and all these there's a lot of unions that put pressure
on
Different politicians to try to keep the laws in place or to make them even stricter
Because they want more people to get arrested privatized prisons
Subsidized prisons it's so that is such a dark concept that this is something
that we're really dealing with it
We really are and the problem is the penalties for the users like having a
joint is so very small
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But the penalties for the business for doing it the wrong way are huge like our
business is being crushed right now over a stupid zoning suit
So there's this big gap between the business
Penalty and the consumer penalty so that the business has no incentive really
to do it the right way
Yeah, so because the consumer what you're gonna go into a shop and ask them.
Hey, do you pay your people on the books?
You know, can I see get your compliancy packet? No, you just go forty dollar
eighth
I love that. Oh gee. I'm buying it, you know
So with all these taxes that forty dollar eighths got to go to $100 are we
gonna pay that or are we just gonna go and call our?
Our dealer or whoever that we've been using for 20 years, so it's gonna. It's
just gonna make the black market even
Broader well, that's an issue that they've had in colorado for sure
But people are happy to pay the taxes because they like the fact that it's free
like the thing is free there
Like you can go and you can buy pot
You don't have to have any kind of a license you don't have to any and you can
just go do it and it's working
So 39% is what they have to pay like recreational and medical is much less but
people just pay it
You know, we're not happy about it, but regulation is what we want. We just
want to follow
We just want the path to the way to do the correct way just make it fair
Let's see what's going on in Denver should be the shining light for the rest of
the states
Because what they've done is they've they've they've made money like they have
so much fucking money from tax revenue
They made more money from tax revenue than they did from alcohol taxes, right?
So last year Colorado takes in 40 million dollars in tax revenue for cannabis
California takes in 40 million dollars in tax revenue from cannabis. We have 30
million people in this state
Compared to Colorado's got what five six million. We're not collecting the
taxes here
So if the companies are not following the rules as they stand why we
Throw in all these new rules at them and setting up these monopolies like here
in LA with the monopoly stifling good businesses
This is doesn't help us and it doesn't help the consumer either doesn't make
any sense. It doesn't it's not you would be dangerous
It's not like if you get more pot out there
It's gonna flood the streets and the people are gonna jump from the buildings.
It's actually less dangerous
Yeah, we've we've proven that and again, that's why we're invited over and over
to places like the Board of Equalization and to other
Places like Oakland the city of Oakland wants to follow our delivery model. It's
because the way we do things actually creates less
Less crime, you know the less opportunity for crime because it's just we're in
your in your living room
You know we know who you are you sent in your documents. We know you live at
that address. We know you are
Went to a doctor. We know everything matches so
No one's seen you walk in or out of a place with a commodity that that's more
expensive than diamonds
You know right when you're looking at a dispensary if if people are walking in
and out of there with duffel bags
What do you think's in those duffel bags? It's very easy to
To for crime to happen because it's visible we've done over 200,000 deliveries
zero assaults zero robberies zero complaints knock on wood bitch
That's great
Well, just let that go
You know
That's an important stat, but it is because we are
Very thoughtful about how how we go about
We treat it like a business make sure the person is who they are
We do a Google search on every single patient we turn down as many patients as
we would take maybe even more more
Just to make sure they are who they say and and that a background
Easy background check doesn't pull up anything that says
We shouldn't work with with someone like that. Yeah pedophiles apparently love
weed, too
But we don't love pedophiles, so we don't let them in our club. Pedophiles also
like milk
You know what the fuck are we doing so so the connecting marijuana with crime
is so stupid
You know there's no facts to back it up. It doesn't make any sense
It's just because just because some people who use it are criminals
That doesn't mean it's causing anything
So there's no rationale for any of this and you're fighting against the idea of
tax revenue like you're holding back revenue
Because there's a lot of people if it was there's a lot of people that are
clear on the fence like man
I think about open up a pot store, but fuck, you know what if Jeb Bush wins,
you know
There's a lot of people that think like that. Yeah, well those people are not
going to go in
But if it becomes completely free and legal the way up, you know a blue jeans
store would be blue jeans
What am I my grandma?
But it was like that I was just trying for a reference
But if that if that happens the stores gonna open up everywhere and the money's
gonna be crazy
It's gonna be a new economy. Well, it's really possible with all the people
here
Yeah, they'll still have to follow regulations. You know, it's already billions
on the books
Well, they should follow regulations. I don't think this should be available to
everybody
I think you when you're young especially like this kind of fucking pop they
have here in LA
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You imagine if you were a six-year-old kid in Detroit and you got a hold of
this shit
No, no, it's not six-year-olds are not ready for this. No, it's not definitely
you should definitely come of age
Yeah, I don't know what that age is
I think we would have to decide as a society how old someone should be before
they start drinking
How I mean there's a lot of countries that let kids drink like responsibly with
their parents when they're much younger than 21
And they have less incidents per capita of alcoholism than some of the
countries that are more restrictive about it
So I don't know who's right or who's wrong. I don't know. I know Americans, you
know
It's things that work other places like we said before don't work here
You know what I remember going to Italy as a 16 year old with school
And the first thing we did was run to like a bodega and buy beer because you
could because we're American kids and we're dicks
And you can have beer so we didn't grow up responsibly, so we weren't acting
responsibly
We'd have to like shift the whole way our culture is to make those things work
Right, and I don't know how to do that
But I know that weed is the easy problem to solve alcohol is a demon that needs
to be rooted out of our society
See I disagree with you. I disagree with you. I enjoy alcohol. No, I do too
But I mean like what the fuck then I mean
Like when we start having the conversation when people say let's compare weed
to alcohol
I start licking my chops because when you compare it to alcohol alcohol is
Alcohol is poisonous. I dig drinking. I drink a lot all the time
So I'm not saying get what would you would you did say that you just misspoke?
I misspoke
I don't I don't mean pull it away. No, I mean let's not demonize
Marijuana compared to alcohol, right? No. Well alcohol definitely ruins more
people
It's definitely way worse for your body
It's definitely much more dangerous as far as like operating cars and and
behavior the way the foolish things people do when they're drinking
Yeah, all that stuff. There's a lot of stuff that's directly attributable to
alcohol, but so what so what you know look
We've survived for so long with alcohol. It's the regulations have worked to at
least to a
Manageable effect, but here's what you can't do. You can't stop people from
doing what they want to do and why should you not?
Yeah, exactly and why is it that you can stop someone from doing that?
But you can't stop them from practicing doing flips and BMX bikes, right?
What do you would you can't right? You know is it because they're they're they're
Driving and injuring other people well, then take away their own right to drive
You know like that's how we have it set up though. They're injuring people to
getting in fights. Well, you lock them in jail
Yep, but the rest of the people leave us alone. Yeah, we should have the right.
There's too many fucking laws
We can control our own consciousness. It's what we put in our bodies and here's
most important concept
We're all just people they're all just people to look you can call them the
government you can call them the police
You can call the DEA. They're a bunch of fucking people. That's all they are
when you go behind some big crazy name
Like it's the FBI open up people go. Oh shit
It's the FBI if you go it's Mike and Steve and Bob and we want to see what kind
of plants are growing right open up
Like who the fuck are you guys right you guys are just some fucking people
So when you write something down on paper
This is how archaic our world is you write something down on paper that decrees
power to these regular people
So these regular people all of a sudden have the right to fucking shit storm
your house kick open your door shoot your dog
Because you have a bag of pot hidden in your fucking bureau drawer
This is the world we've created is this is this is a real world
It's and more people get killed during those raids than pot would ever kill
that's for sure pot doesn't kill anybody
That's the most ridiculous thing. I think it's still zero right zero ever man
They would be parading it in front of us every now and then like the mirror in
the UK or one of those fake newspapers
We'll put a young man dies on marijuana first known case, but yeah, it's not
true. It's not true
You can't it's like doesn't kill you. It's not toxic. Yeah, it might fuck your
Your head up fuck your head, but you should be allowed to make that choice.
Yeah, I'm gonna fuck my head up
Yeah, and if you're abusing it then the people around you will help you or
whatever
You know what whatever needs to be done - just like monster energy drinks
I know people who drink those things all day long and look
I love the way those fucking things taste and if you want to stay awake and you're
like fuck it
We're going in that is the way to go, but you're not supposed to drink like ten
of them in a day
No, that dude needs an intervention some people are crazy
They'll drink ten of those giant Red Bulls the big Red Bull you know when they
started making Red Bull like a beer can now
And what a bud tall boy people drink those all day
Mostly people that have alcohol problems that won't go to AA they could switch
to caffeine
So I know like 20 coffees a day for some of these guys
I went to the hospital because of those energy drinks from heart palpitations
and stuff like oh, yeah, man
Well, you know
They're great if you want one, you know and monsters probably actually like
less caffeine and some of them bad
I mean the monsters one of the better ones and the better tasting ones the
worst one
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That I ever tried as far as like the jolt that it gives you was that red line
shit. You remember that is it?
When I went to the hospital was the Mountain Dew one. They don't even make that
anymore
Right, it became illegal
Red line what's red hair. It was scary. It was like a little can and in that
can was like 50 doses
And you would down the whole thing, but it was um
See if you can find it. How safe are those five-hour energy drinks?
Oh, those are pretty safe. Pretty safe. Those are pretty safe. Those are mostly
vitamin b12, right?
They only have I want to say like 70 milligrams caffeine a cup of coffee. Yeah,
like a cup of coffee
I know they're safe. I don't feel the same drink in that as I do a Red Bull. No,
I like it. I think it's better
Yeah, I like those b12 drinks
I think b12 drinks are way better caffeine 250 milligrams of caffeine that
doesn't seem like that much
Hmm, it doesn't just well that's not an eight ounce bottle either that is it
I guess it says it says per eight fluid ounce bottle
It was a small but how much is in coffee like if coffee's 50 milligrams maybe I'm
maybe I'm thinking of the wrong shit
I swear I thought it was red line
Maybe I'm just wrong about the the the sheer volume of caffeine in that thing
But I thought it was just like ridiculous. But anyway, I drank it whatever it
was
It was this one or the other one that's like it that I mistake the name for but
I'm pretty sure it says Starbucks
And I remember thinking dude. I am just way too jacked up right now
Starbucks heavy caffeine. Yeah, I especially their cold brew. I get the
sometimes I get the Trenta hold the fuck up a
20 ounce
Yeah, that's a Trenta. No, that's a venti. I get the one above that. They don't
even have the numbers for that
But this is saying a 20 a 20 ounce has
415 milligrams of caffeine. I would be in tachycardia
Holy shit. Is that real ice coffees more? I believe yeah, look at this decaf
has 30 milligrams
Yeah, what the fuck is that decaf always has a little yeah, I know but 30
milligrams
I thought it was like five or something. I thought it was like trace amount to
see what the ice coffee is
I believe it's a lot more really yeah, I get the Trenta's or usually how is
that possible?
the cold brew
Three the cold brew a 330 well, I guess it's not more hmm, but I get the trend
diversion
So that's probably more yeah, they can't keep serving you like that
They're gonna have to I didn't have to pull back see that's the thing is is I
agree
But then my libertarian side doesn't agree like why do you think you should
drink that shit all day if you want?
Of course my friend Dave Foley used to drink pots of coffee pots like all day
He drank pots of coffee. He had to stop putting cream in because he realized he
was drinking a quart of cream a day
I think of that every time I poured cream in my coffee
I think of your stories telling me about that a quart of cream how much just
from coffee
Yeah, I like that fresh heavy cream in my coffee. Yeah, I'm talking. Yeah
Yeah, I got dark roast Hawaiian coffee with some heavy cream
That's what that Starbucks is now doing that they're doing it with their cold
brew coffee. They have like a heavy
Cream that's like caramel or something they mix through it nice. Mm-hmm. Nice.
Yeah, it's the the cigarettes and coffee
Thing are the staples of the alcoholics, right? Yeah a lot of a a people enjoy
those
cigarettes and they enjoy those those coffees, but you know in their eyes
Yeah, but but in their eyes they feel like they've got the alcohol part under
wraps now because this stuff just kind of keeps them going
And this stuff is not ruining their life, right?
I get it a lot of alcohols use cannabis the same way
And that's not really
Accepted by a a so I know a lot a lot of people who have kicked their alcoholism
by moving more towards cannabis
But again within the a a community that they don't like that that's you know
still considered a drug
So but you can get addicted to anything, you know whether it's porn or Big Macs
or we you can get it
psychologically addicted to anything but Jamie didn't the
some guy who created
Alcoholics Anonymous didn't he have positive experiences with LSD?
I feel like I feel like he did acid is the only thing you're allowed to take
guys
Well, I feel like I feel like that was something that happened like maybe even
after
I don't want to speak out of school. Yeah, am I right?
Yeah, so
What the fuck? Well, that's why the government needs testing on a lot of things
so we know it could scroll it up, please
Alcoholics Anonymous
Founder believed LSD could cure alcoholism. Wow. Well, you've seen so much
research now in
Psychedelics that clinics are opening up. There's a clinic in in LA for for ketamine
You know, and you're seeing MDMA clinics opening up at this what most of them
do not realize that the program's co-founder
Bill Wilson credited the psychedelic drug LSD for alleviating his alcoholism
and
Believe the drug could be used to treat others as well. Holy shit. So those
friends of Bill. They didn't get all the information
It's kind of my friends of Bill if you're in the Alcoholics Anonymous, right?
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That's what they call themselves again as a bill
That's like the code but they didn't get that experience. It's kind of like the
mushrooms on that quitting cigarettes
Yeah, dude, but do you think they tell them I never heard this before today?
Could you not tell these people Wilson first became began experimenting with LSD
in Los Angeles at the Veterans Administration back in
1956
But after taking his first hit of acid he realized that it was not the aspect
of terror that could help remedy alcoholism
but rather the insight one could attain from stepping into a world of
simulated insanity, whoa
Wilson believed that using the LSD could help the alcoholic discover a power
greater than ourselves that in turn could restore us to sanity
However, he was adamant that using acid to combat the demons of alcoholism was
not something that he could that one could expect from a single dose
He's like more research is required and snacks Wow
Hmm. That's interesting man. That's interesting. Yes psychedelics. I think
As we experiment with them
Like medically are gonna reveal some secrets
This guy's this guy's a heavy-duty trippers. They're going further down. He was
tripping with Aldous Huxley
Like this guy this isn't like one experience he had
Interesting there's documentation that indicates Wilson was involved with many
supervised LSD trials including some with psychology
Psychologist Betty Eisner and brave new world author Aldous Huxley
Which led him to believe that the visions and insights given by LSD could
create a large
Incentive at least in a considerable number of people, huh?
And so this was like a leader and yeah, and psychedelic they live left this out
of the a a pamphlet
How do they how could they leave this out?
That's crazy because it seems like this had to play a major part in this guy's
ability to kick alcohol
Well, it seems like every major religion also left out the psychedelics that
probably created them as well
So I think you know, you have I think a lot of times you got to leave out the
stuff that you think people aren't gonna follow you for
Wait a minute. You've seen Alcoholics Anonymous is a religion. Well, I know
what you just said call you son of a bitch
I can't even believe you Gino. I thought we're friends that is um, that is
really wild man
That's really interesting stuff, but it totally it totally makes sense that it
could help you
Kick an addiction that totally makes sense because the stark contrast between
being intoxicated on it and what it feels like to be normal and this
Rethinking like a reset button. That's what all the psychedelics provide. That's
like really beneficial besides being fun
They all provide that reset that did that takes you so far out of who you are
right now that when you come back you go man
Am I doing this the right way right? You know now that I'm back to sober
reality
I need to refocus a disconnection from yours like own ego. Yeah, probably good
idea
You know and yeah, you have the organization maps
I you had the the guy from maps on the podcast who's
That does the psychedelic research
I forgot what Doblin
Yes, so so just recently he they got
Authorized from the federal government to start doing research on cannabis
For the first time that federal federal ban was lifted and it was because
because of maps
That they they were able to get that they were the first ones granted that that
federal research on cannabis
So so it's in in very similar ways. We need to do research on LSD
We need to do research on psilocybin because there could be medical effects
that
Just like cannabis. We're just denying because of years of
You know, this is the way it was they're bad. They're bad. Jamie put that back
up
That that that quote about bill. This is crazy. Look at this
It says unfortunately LSD made its way into the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous
simply because others in a hierarchy hierarchy
hierarchy did not support it as a viable treatment in fact a document published
in 1984 by Alcoholics Anonymous World Services in New York
explained the reason the program does not endorse the use of LSD as
Word of Bill's activity. This is all in quotes as word of Bill's activities
reached the fellowship
There were inevitable repercussions. Most aas were violently opposed to his
experimenting with a mind-altering substance
LSD was then totally unfamiliar poorly researched and entirely experimental dot
dot dot and Bill was taking it and quote
They were scared. They were all scared. This guy was tripping
That's hilarious. So they didn't want to include it even though the founder of
the program
Found it massively beneficial and it's almost ironic that that if a user put it
in there and they kicked him out basically really
Where's this up here? Oh, yeah resistance? So you had to step down his chastise
for Wow, that's hilarious
Isn't that crazy because Timothy well?
Terrence McKenna attributed this quote to Timothy Leary, but Timothy Leary said
he never said it so nobody knows exactly who said it but that
LSD causes violent reactions to people who have never tried it
What? Well, that's a good. Yeah, very interesting the people that haven't tried
it are the ones all right
I get it not the people I get it who were on it, right?
Yeah
Do you think LSD though for real can solve anything? I've done it maybe over
200 times and you might not be the best example
when you were taking it 200 times a lot of that was recreational not but I'm
sure there was small little things that I was probably going through that I
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could have
Used LSD to help me like I like as an example. I took LSD once after a big
breakup
Did it help me get through that breakup? No, it did nothing for my breakup, you
know, or were you concentrating on it to try to use it that way or?
That's the thing. It's also gonna go with your own intention probably
Yeah, but it's not it doesn't work for you. It's not like hey cake clean up my
life
I'm gonna take some acid just right now you got to do the work yourself, right?
I just don't like it
Represents what it will all these psychedelics like the good experiences the
bad experiences represent what's the state of mind when you go into them
That's why the people that take it like really seriously and they they go
through this all meditative ritual and they'll do yoga
And they'll do breathing exercises and they'll set like a tone to whatever they
would like to go into this experience with
And say say that they're going into the experience open and humble and say all
these things out loud
And then they enter into the psychedelic trip like they do it that way because
they they want to set like an intention if you just
Broke up with a girl and you take acid really really think it's gonna fix
anything because you didn't help me when I broke up my girl
Like that's really what you say you could also be like hey
I want to quit smoking take acid being like what happened you quit smoking and
like and I don't know
I focused on cigarettes and then the whole place melted and then my hand turned
into a bunch of snakes
So no, I still want cigarettes again. It's not you're you you don't really want
to quit if you wanted to quit you would just quit
Right, but I don't think the acid but has anything to do with doesn't doesn't
help you
It's not gonna just decide for you like it depends on what's the intention that
you go into taking any psychedelic whether it's mushrooms or whatever
What's the intention that you you go into this this trip with and you can't
think like acid doesn't work because it didn't help me quit smoking
Like you didn't help you quit smoking like these are decisions that you make
Yeah
I just don't see how acid unless it's really bad acid that will you'll remember
anything except melty stuff and and and like walls melting and
Okay lizards. I just don't see any kind of help on a lesser lesser level
Do you feel like cannabis has changed your personality?
Cuz you know that is something you might not go into saying all right
I broke up with I'm gonna smoke weed for but throughout your lifetime
Has cannabis had an effect on you that you feel like it's changed your
personality?
I've been smoking since I was like 14 15 so I don't even know what my
personality was before if anything
I think marijuana made me more paranoid and scared
You know, I was more like freaked out and stuff but as a medicine for like
headaches and I don't take almost any pills now
I don't have Tylenol in my house anymore if I if I have a headache I use weed
so for that it has helped me tremendously but
Personality wise probably not it probably made me more paranoid and awful as a
person when smoking it because I'm you know
I get panicky, you know if I if I'm super stoned in a room of people, it's not
helping me at all
It's making it worse if anything what about you Joe and you started later later
that you know
You didn't start as a teenager. So do you feel like it's made a difference on
who you are?
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it changes your perspective
It it offers you some a different frequency of insight. I would say I think
that
one of the things that's done that's good is it it makes me consider things
that I might not be thinking about and
It gives you almost it illuminates areas of your consciousness that maybe you
weren't paying attention to it's made me a nicer guy
Yeah, like I'm kind of a type a high-strung guy and like if there's an employee
that I just want to strangle
I can take a hit of an OGA and suddenly be like, you know, and he's he's he's
all right. Yeah
He's had a hard day exactly instead of accelerating that kind of behavior right
shitty behavior. It definitely makes you more more
Inclined towards fellowship and kindness. It's just a it's a really good
Chemical, you know, it's a really good reaction that your mind has to this
natural plant for creative reasons
100% yeah, oh definitely opens up a different pathway in your head. I like it
for everything. I like it for a lot of different things
I like it, but but for creative reasons. It's one of the best things. Yeah,
sure. You know a lot of our
celebrity
patients that are you know working in
comedy or music or
television or the movies they they want sativas specifically so
They're not down at all because you know sativas are more known for their
creativity and and things like that
So so we find people who are working in the creative field. They want to smoke
sativas, you know
Which is an important
distinction between
Indica's and sativa's piece a lot of people don't know that different parts of
different types of marijuana can affect you differently
you know and
There are some people who are medicating for certain ailments. Well, they
should smoke something that specifically works for those ailments if
If if you're smoking because you're looking for creativity because you're
looking for
that
You know
You don't want to lay on the couch and go to sleep then you should smoke smoke
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sativas
If you are looking for that it's nighttime. I want to relax, you know time to
go to bed
You should smoke Indica's because that's going to bring you down and give you
that body high with with the CBD chemical that that's inside
Yeah, that's what I want. I'm like Brian. I don't I get I get
Jumpy with Steve. I get a little bit freaked out a little paranoid. Why don't
you put these moving together? Hey, I think we're neighbors actually
Yeah, I know look I we've all been too high, you know everybody's been too high,
you know
Um, one of the it was like a famous scientist. It wasn't Carl Sagan. It was
some other famous scientist
I was a those theoretical mathematician guys who writes all that crazy scribble
shit
He would just he would just talk about how he likes one hit
That's what he likes to take just one hit just go for a walk and all these
ideas would come to him
It's like you don't have to get fucking blasted. Just one hit
That's why I was so against it at first is because I thought one hit made you
really fucked up because that's how I saw Gino
But it turned out Gino would say you were such a dick to me when I smoked weed
in your house
That I have to go outside smoke a whole joint in two minutes and come in and I'd
be a mess
So that was what I was exposed to is I don't want any of that
I didn't realize you could just take one hit and just chill out and and still
work and still function
Nobody knows and it makes people nicer. It definitely does it did for me. Yeah
you know, I think
You know to say that
What are the medical effects? What what what are you treating yourself for it's
almost silly to say because everyone else who's?
Not really treating themselves for a cancer or something like that. They are
getting mood regulation out of it
So even if you want to call it recreational smoking
You're still getting mood regulation out of it and those people who smoke it
almost daily or whatever on whatever schedule they smoke it on
They might have if they didn't they might be on Percocet. They might be on
You know well Buterin they might be on a million other other drugs
So to say that recreational use is people just getting high that's also also
not
accepting that people are looking for mood regulation as a medical effect
Yeah, we already have it. We already have it with coffee. Yeah coffee. Yeah nicotine.
Yeah booze. That's all it's all additional
There's so many different things we already accept sugar. Yeah, well sugar is
the scariest one
Yeah, that shit's everywhere once you start paying attention to it
But this the idea is that you should be able to do whatever you want if you
want to eat candy bars all day
that should be completely up to you and
That's not where we are, you know, and the the fact that's not where we are
where where we are with one of the most beneficial
Plants the world's ever known because that's really what it is
Especially since that's connection to hemp. It's the most beneficial plant the
world's ever known and it's illegal
I mean that doesn't show you how stupid people are. I mean, we're so goddamn
goofy
We are and it's gonna it's gonna get worse before it gets better
Unfortunately you think because the laws are such a mess right now. Listen
Hillary Clinton's gonna fix
Fix everything she gets in office. She's gonna be great. She's always been top-shelf
Who who Donald Trump is he gonna fix it? He I don't think he cares he's he care
I I don't I know he doesn't care. I know that for a fact. I think he would
legalize marijuana nationwide
I get a lot of stoners switch gears. No what scares me is that what if he makes
Chris Christie the attorney general?
That would be bad. It would be hilarious. Oh, it'd be so bad for my business,
dude
That'd be bad be hilarious
That guy's not gonna be the attorney general it if he's not the attorney
general
I'll take anybody whatever you got so full of he's so foolish his his opinions
on marijuana while
Consuming copious amounts of sugar in public. They're so ridiculous
They're ridiculous. He put a bag of M&M's inside his M&M's after after he had
stomach surgery
I mean, he's a crazy person that this guy's addicted to sugar a hundred percent
That's clear so no way you stay that big unless you're eating terrible. That's
just it
But he'll go with one thing is legal one thing is not saying end of story.
There's an insane person
But that's what that's what we're fighting with the city is this is the law end
of story. Yeah
You think Bernie has no chance
He can't even win the Democratic side anymore. Still voting for Gary man. Gary
Johnson. Yeah, Gary Johnson
Is a better it's almost a well, it's a more likely vote than Bernie at this
point
I just don't think like physically he can win what could happen though is he
and Hillary could team up
And they would be a formidable twosome so great it'd be Hillary and then he
would be the the vice-president
That'd be crazy though. That's so so left if they said any nasty shit to each
other. It's kind of that's where
Yeah, you know, you gotta
You got to curb your words when you're running right you got to make sure you
don't get too negative so that you could join forces
Would they put a socialist on the ticket in the United States of America? Well,
he's a Democratic Socialist
It's not entirely like a socialist well to beat Trump. I think they might do
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tricky. It's tricky
It's tricky, but he does have the support of the youth. You know, he's he's got
people fired up
Socially, you know, he sits down with people like killer Mike and has long-term
interviews, you know, he's interesting. He's interesting
He's different. He doesn't accept money from I look I like a lot of what he
stands for. I agree with half of it
I like him way better than I like her. I'm not a big fan of
the whole like long-term
Politicians, I'm not a big fan of those kind of people. There just seems like
you just have too many compromises along the way
There's too much like weaving in and out of the system and the more intertwined
in the system the more suspicious we should all be
She's way more intertwined in the system. Of course. Well, here's an example
Speedweed shut down by Proposition D which was written by a lawyer who
represents a bunch of dispensaries that are protected by Proposition D
Those are some dots you can connect them
So an attorney writes a law that protects his clients and it gets passed. How
does that happen? I don't know
But I know the career politicians don't make things better, you know for us
Yeah, they only do if it's the will of the people and that's the only way they
can stay in office
But usually it's not really just the will of the people. It's people aren't
really paying attention
But it's the will of these corporations they get involved they're donating
money and the people don't even know what the fuck is happening while it's
happening
That's right. Well, that's what we have exactly exactly going on here. You know,
there's a lot of those laws, right? Yeah
Well, we're dealing with a lot of them, you know again to say that
You know a business had to be in operation before
2007 in order to be considered now
You know now to be a viable business well if you were in operation in
2007 you were in in that Wild West category
So so you were already skating that line. Do you want the players that were bad
players involved or do you want good companies that wanted put in?
Standing up standard operating procedures that are looking for best practices.
Why wouldn't you want companies like that?
You know in we just laid off 40 people that are now in unemployment
40 good people that really can't get decent jobs anywhere that were paid
Well above minimum wage are now just laid off and going on the government
dollar
Because because of this law that nobody knows about and nobody read you know
and if for us it came at a time where we were
so excited about the future of working with the Board of Equalization we were
in our largest expansion at the time
We were going from the largest market which was LA to expanding throughout all
of California, which we're still doing now
But we just now have to not include LA which was our main base
So in the law what the law pertains to is you delivering things to people that
live in homes?
Because that home has not been cleared
Because as a place to do business because it because of the zoning law only
these one hundred and thirty five
Pre ICOs are allowed to operate at all within the city. Nobody else can join
the club
It's only that 135 and any marijuana wanna vehicle is an extension of the
marijuana business
So every car is zoned like a building so essentially they've limited the number
of stores that can operate the number of dispensaries
And you guys got pushed out because you didn't have a few grandfathered in well
that's that's number one but number two is our
Our base where our business is is not in the city limits of LA so by
Normal law for any other business you follow the laws of the municipality you're
in we just convey through the streets of LA and
There's a law on the California books that says you can't stop someone if your
business is not in one municipality
And you drive to another municipality to deliver something you can't stop that
so we're not even in LA and
We have to have to deal with this. We're outside the city of LA because the
city of LA encompasses
Hollywood and and a lot of LA but there are places that people think are LA
like Beverly Hills or West Hollywood
Those are in LA well our lawsuit says we're operating a sophisticated delivery
company running seven
About seven hubs out of the LA out of the LA area
It's like well, where are the addresses on the lawsuit?
There are none because we don't have any locations inside the city. We don't
roll orders out of there
But it's not in the the paperwork just so goofy this is what's the prop?
This is the scary problem with big government
This is the problem with government that just has too many regulations and too
much red tape and too much bullshit stuff like this
And there should be a balance of harm to our company that that
Is trying to work within every regulation of California working with the state
to create them, you know
Well, let me ask you this when is it gonna be legal is it in on the books to be
in November to November and November?
Yes, we have to organize like this is an important thing for the future of
mankind
You have to it is must be done there and unfortunately, there's even infighting
within the cannabis industry
Yeah, well, you know what the problem that I've ran into when we were talking
about the the first legalization vote the growers didn't want it to be
Legal because they would make less money, right?
Of course the guys are growing illegally and I was like wow and he's like hey,
man
I'm just just telling you the truth, but we're we're at a point now that if we
don't do that
They're gonna get pushed out anyway by bigger corporations that will come in
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and be able to pay millions of dollars for licensing and buildings and things
Like like people are greedy and they're short-sighted you can't be greedy and
you can't be short-sighted you can't this is a this is a
global issue and
In the in these environments where these people are saying we're gonna we're
gonna make less money bullshit expand
It's gonna be legal now doing like yeah, you're gonna have competition so
fucking so what you're making money
Why do you care if other people are making money why are you concentrating on
that just just enjoy life?
You're gonna have a bunch of pothead millionaires around you right and you know
along those lines as we
Were cultivating for our own patient base we were followed we follow the
California
the laws for California to cultivate
once
local licensing
Started becoming
Possible for cultivation it wasn't before the governor signed this bill last
year now
It's becoming possible we went out and we're now participating with desert hot
springs
For a legal cultivation
So it's going to be a place where the police could come in the government could
come in inspect it
So so we're moving forward with full
Utilization on cultivation as well paying paying everything you got to pay for
making sure that you you when you build your building
It's built to the right specs again. The government's involved in every part of
it. So
again, we're moving
Forward with the regulations even though it's gonna cost us a lot of money aren't
you know
the investment team that's behind it has already put a two million dollars in
just to buy the property, you know
So it's gonna cost a lot of money and we're not you're not gonna make the money
You know millions of dollars that you're hoping for but at least you're doing
it in a way that can be
Regulated and you can open up your doors and not hide because we don't want to
hide everything we've ever done
We haven't hidden we've said everything in the media. Hey, we're following
regulations. We're we're trying to do everything the right way
We're paying and paying paying the taxes. We have to pay where we're working
Well, that's why we got sued is because if you sue speed weed that gets your
name in the paper
You sued that this bet, you know the delivery that one of the other 400
delivery services that you can find operating right now today that are illegal
That's not gonna get your name in the paper in an election year
Maybe it's a conspiracy theory, but all of the facts in our case are dated 2014.
We got served in 2016. I don't know
Is this a special year?
To politicians, maybe it's a special year. Okay, so hold on for a second. So
there are certain delivery
Companies that are allowed to operate inside LA. No, nobody's allowed. No one,
but they are but they are but they do any more 400
They do 400 illegal ones. Yeah, they're all these podcasts
Golden snitches
So we're gonna start doing overnight delivery with medical couriers to the
entire state
So speed weed will deliver to anywhere in California. That's allowed not inside
the city limits of LA
But outside the city limits you're in Fresno you're in Sacramento wherever you
are
Patient meet you at the border
Could you do like a taco stand at the border and you make a handoff that's
certain patients baby Burbank in LA?
Burbank is not not in LA. Oh, so I can still get delivery
You could until they until they tell the delivery services to stop
Yeah, but Burbank does not like the industry just like Glendale and Pasadena do
not like the industry
Why is that there's it's it's the propaganda machine and it's it's you know law
enforcement shows up
It's the city hall and start screaming about if you have dispensaries gonna
have crime delivery is gonna be a lot of cash and product in the cars
You're bringing crime and they frighten the city council and the people that
vote and saying all right
So we don't want it here. So right let let it happen in echo park where the
hippies live
We're here in Burbank with you know with this with the studios
We don't want it in our studios would want it because so many of the actors are
probably they do weed
I need it to live they do they do they've delivered all like on movie sets
Yeah, you know that of course they do everybody knows roles that people play
probably have to be hard to fuck to do it
All right. I wonder if Daniel day-lewis smokes weed fuck. Yeah, he does we can't
talk about a
Privacy of certain patients
We trying to say I'm not trying to say anything
I'm saying a lot of the actors you you would think are smoking weed while they're
acting they are hmm interesting
Of course they are yeah, I know several we don't have to name names
But I know a lot of people get super high as fuck right before they do a scene
sure kind of makes sense
You know, I mean you've introduced me to some so certainly certainly, you know
and
They're just as many that you would never suspect that that guy is a everyday
smoker and they are and
And that's because you know, there's still stigma and when you're living in a
public life
You need privacy and that's one of the reasons you need delivery because some
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of my my patient bases if they walked into a dispensary
They're gonna lose
endorsements and sponsor money
From because they're on family shows things like that. Well, how is that fair
to them? They need their medication?
They need safe access to their medication. They can't you're saying it all
grand dude. They're trying to get high
Fucked out. I know they need their medication. They're dying. We have this it's
anti-venom
We have to protect it to him quickly our Disney kids the poison of society
Seeped it deep into his veins Joe. Have you been to Denver yet since it since
though? Yeah, it's elite
I was just there like four months ago five months ago something like that. So
just walking down the street
Just walking to anything pot places everywhere. They're all over the place
It's like it's like Amsterdam. It's like some weird new American Amsterdam and
there's so much money
Real estate prices are skyrocketing
Real estate prices are up like nineteen percent. How's the prices like like it's
to say like a joint in in Denver
Have any idea? It's it's more expensive than it is here and they do have
different pricing for medical
As they do yeah, we're a creation. We went over that with taxes. It's 39% taxes
versus I think like nine
Yeah, however, you know
I've been there plenty of times and and the weed here in Southern California is
still still bad ass that I've seen
How is that possible? It seems like Denver would have the best climate
everybody it is needs to fucking relax on this big dick measuring competition
between states
No, we well we were in Pittsburgh. No, we were in Philly and we got high with
this dude at a radio station gave us a joint and we were like
Some Philly weed. I'll just smoke the fuck out of this Philly. This ain't gonna
do shit. And like 20 minutes later. We were like, dude
We made a mistake
Philly weed is legit. I think there's an answer to that though is that the best
weed in Colorado is still black market
So, okay
Maybe but come on it was illegal. You guys rough is so fucking strong. You guys
are crazy talk
This is you're talking for the deepest of the deep in the deep end of the pool
That's what you're talking all the pot whether it's Colorado or California
Will put you on fucking Pluto all of it
No, no doubt and the difference between two hits a Colorado pot and two hits a
California pot is if you can measure that
Write a book
And it's the joint you had like what if you had like three joints those were
just the three shittiest joints in color
I don't buy it
Colorado I was in Colorado. I had some of their weed. I'll be there Thursday.
It's fucking ridiculous
It's like whoa
It's super weed. It's all the same shit. These all these strains have gotten
everywhere. Yeah, you know, they're all over the country
They have this shit in New York now. Yeah, does the weed do you get higher
because of the elevation? Oh, yeah
For weed? Yeah, you have no air so it's probably just shitty weed. No, no, no
The alcohol gets you drunker, too. Yeah, that's a big one, but it's it's just
it's just good
Weeds great. It's everywhere
It's
Because of social media it's becoming to a point where you just can't deny it.
I thought we were already there
we're very close to it and as
Politicians get older and pushed out and younger politicians get in the
toothpaste is out of the tube
It's not going backwards. So, you know for LA to be behind the times of the
rest of the state and
for California the most progressive state in the country to be behind the times
of
states like
Colorado and
Alaska who are making making tax money
It's the money the money and the politics is too it's too intertwined
It's too it's part of the fabric of our society and it's broken. Yeah, it is
and hopefully it's going to be eventually pushed out
But right now, you know, you have to deal with one of the most ridiculous
examples of it, which is marijuana
It's one of the most ridiculous examples of all sorts of problems that I'm sure
all sorts of businesses run into all across the country that we don't consider
Because it doesn't play a part in our lives, but this one does and this one is
really a nationwide freedom issue
I mean, that's that's really what a lot of it's about. It's a freedom of
consciousness issue and
People don't look at it like that. They look at it like it's law enforcement.
It's this it's crime. It's this it's children. It's this
No, it's not what it is. It's it's a freedom of social
Consciousness, it's a freedom of being able to express yourself and a freedom
of being able to
Intoxicate yourself with a natural plant and then what comes out of that and
that's what everybody was worried about more than anything in like the
1970s what they were worried about and then I 60s and 70s is what was coming
out of this
They weren't worried about the consequences of taking this drug. They were
worried about what's coming out of this
You're getting all these people that just won't tolerate all the usual standard
shit because they're constantly resetting themselves and then
Reconsidering their environment and they're coming out with this whole new
movement of people like all the hate Ashbury shit in the 60s
And you know all the the music of the time so much of that had to do with pot
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and so much of that had to do with LSD
Sure, they were just terrified of that shit
They were I when we talk about the war on drugs and people like blame Nancy
Reagan that started with Nixon
Yeah, you know in the late 60s early 70s, and now the new stuff has come out
I'm sure you've seen it where they're saying the Nixon administration purposely
targeted
Marijuana because they were really going after the civil rights leaders and the
people that were anti-war movement
Yes, so they would go rest them through pot and that would be the get the back
door to just break up these organizations and that this was a strategy
They had to the point that they asked
Universities to pull cannabis information that was positive. Yeah, I mean that's
Yeah, they they funded studies trying to find things wrong with pot and all
they found was good shit
Right the Donald Tashkin study is one that I love where he was that study was
to find the connection between lung cancer and smoking cannabis and it turned
out
he could find no connection and actually showed that there could be a
Protective effect of cannabis. That's how I'm still alive
Maybe a lot of people like you smoke cigarettes and smoke pot might actually
like even it
Yeah, start at the same time, you know, but I have a patient with double lung
transplant. He had a
Fiber myalgia
So that's double lung transplant
We were doing an interview with with with a magazine and I had him there and he
showed I take these 45 pills a day for for
You know what I have or I could eat these three edibles and
He's like 45 pills a day. It's crazy. Just trying to swallow them
And but he said these cost me thousands of dollars. However, I don't pay for
them
Because it's paid by insurance these I pay almost
45 $50 a day in edibles and and I could just eat those instead
However, none of this is paid for and I don't have the money to pay $50 a day
for my medication
So he's one of the patients that that we help out with with the free product
and
You know because he can't afford to live
The pharmaceutical side of the of this conversation is just that's a whole nother
side of it
It's very nice of you to give that to him by the way
But hearing that he's eating 45 dollars worth of edibles a day makes me want to
shit my pants
What kind of a tornado of consciousness is this guy flying around in all day?
How many milligrams are we talking for 45 bucks worth of weed? How many
milligrams is this motherfucker taking in? Yeah, you know
You have no lungs. I you take whatever you need to do to get through that day.
Yeah, I know for sure
But I'm thinking forty five dollars where the chiba chews would put you in
another dimension
Yeah, come on, son. There's a shit hacky sack, you know
We're talking some somewhere around 500 milligrams a day. So it's so it's not
tremendous. I mean, I've seen Joey
He has even a thousand right time. That's insane, but if he's getting chiba chews
like chiba chews which are like a really
Potent and easy way to get them. Yeah 45 bucks is not 500 milligrams
You can get one 500 milligram one for a lot less than that, right? Yeah, 15
bucks. Yeah, yeah
So this guy spent 45 bucks and he's buying the good shit Jesus Louisa's he
might be on a five
500 milligram chiba chews a day diet. I want to meet this dude and shake his
hand. That's a pioneer. Yeah, he's got I can't live in that world
That's a good man. That's a lot of sugar probably also. Oh, whatever. Don't be
a pussy all of a sudden you're worried about sugar
This fucking guy's living in an alternate dimension. He's looking at us through
a fucking aquarium window
He's not even here if he's eating that much pot you're talking about that much
that many milligrams and then it's getting processed
So it's you got to think about it way stronger than just smoking it, right? It
is
I mean
I went I had a bad edible strip and I went five years without even touching it
even though we had him on the menu
I was like dude
I won't even want to smell one of those Tootsie Rolls or whatever the hell it
is
I don't want nothing to do with it because I was in another place for like two
days high
Yeah, just going when is it gonna end? I mean we started as an edibles company
before before we were speed weed
and we were one of the first we were the first company to do gummy bears and
When we were making them it's you know the my brother is my partner with his
wife Jen also
AJ figured out a way to extract
Extract THC from from we this is six years ago before anyone was was doing it
because we had a failed crop
Because when I moved to California, we got our cards
I said I'm just gonna throw up a grow and now I'm allowed to grow here
I'll make a few I'm gonna throw up a grow never heard that I need to start
saying shit like that
Yeah, get together with my friends wait
So so so AJ said that's great. Where are we gonna do it? I said I'm gonna do it
in your living room
So I took over his living room with tents and I put up growing it and it didn't
and since I was going back and forth to
New York selling my house
Every two weeks he was watching it while I was gone. Well, it was a disaster
It was the worst experience where you know growing pot with all of our money
And I'm on the phone with Gina going you know the leaves are yellow
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He's like all right are the veins red. I'm like what do you I don't know what
we're talking about
It needs more
Irresponsible motherfucker. You can't just leave this do your plans. No, he's
like go go get more nitrogen
I'm watching my baby for me take my baby just feed it when it cries
So I I gotta go I got back from from a trip late late in into my my
Grow cycle and I opened it up and you see webs. Well, those aren't spiders.
Those are spider mites
Yeah, and that's the worst thing you could ever ever get
I grew in Ohio lost my whole entire crop spent like months growing this scared
of helicopters with the heat sinking thing
And yeah, my it's so all our money was sunk into this
you know all of
Four months time to make it happen and I was just defeated. I was like, I can't
believe it
What are we gonna do and so we we had to fight it to fight those spider mites?
We did everything we could including buying 10,000 ladybugs which eat these
things and releasing them in this tent a foot from where?
I'm sleeping on his couch. I bought them on Amazon
Yeah, I got a zillion ladybugs on Amazon and we just released them into my
living room. Yeah, we buy them all the time
Yeah, they seriously yeah
I didn't even do they have a bunch of different plants that I grow so we buy
ladybugs
Yeah, and they worked but they didn't exactly work fast enough and they were
dying cuz we're CO2 and so we had to get predator mites
Which were other little creepy crawly things that that we had to release right
where I was sleeping so we released
Jurassic Park
It's exactly what it was it was if you could look at it under a microscope
It would be like some sort of a fucking storm ship troopers starship troopers
You know the Lord of the Rings things were flying down eating each other things
were climbing up and and they were like and so what happened?
What's the long story? So so so we got rid of them and had had bad weed we
extracted it
AJ read some papers online we extract and I said what are we gonna do with this
and we said all right?
Let's make some edibles so his wife so hold on
It's bad weed bad weed can sell it because you can't smoke it. Yeah, but you
know turn into edibles
It looked like shit out of out of a litter box. It was garbage Benchino's like
fuck it. I'm smoking it
But I'm confused explain like why did it look bad because the mites chewed it
up like what? Yeah
ladybug wing ladybug wings
Here's here's the thing really yeah, so so there's also things called neem oil
which is a natural
Pesticide that that also helps in killing killing these things however in a
growth cycle
You shouldn't use it near the end because then it's gonna be on the flowers
that you have to smoke
Right however if you extract the THC out of it
It's no longer on that plant material you're getting rid of the plant material
the the the neem oil that's on it
It won't translate into an extract. Oh, okay, so you use the pesticide
Unfortunately late in the cycle and it made the pot bad to smoke, but you can
still extract the THC from right right. It's a natural oil
I it works as a pesticide. Okay, so baffled. I was like how is it bad weed and
then it's good weed so so
Bad weed good gummy bears. Yeah, so oh, so I started going what is the process
of extracting THC from the flowers?
It's like breaking bad. Is that it? Yeah, my kitchen looked like a meth lab for
like three months. It's crazy
We had a sock slit. So yeah, if you've done this before were you experimenting?
Did you watch a YouTube video?
I had no idea it even existed I found a paper from like 1976 or UCLA scientists
that multi solvent extraction of cannabinoids
You can find it online now saying it was like this is a how-to manual and how
to do extraction
Okay, hold on neither one of you guys are scientists. We were technology guys.
I got a scientist, right? I know I got very
scientists, right? No, I'm a dumb techie
I'm good at homework. Had you ever done any chemical work like that using solvents
and extracting
elements from plants
Not professionally he ages humble. He's okay. He's a member of Mensa. I got
very blessed to have a brother who's so very intelligent
You know, so I was just defeated, you know, I got a bad crop. I wasted all our
money
I wasted our time he turned
The lemons into lemonade because luckily he's smart enough to say what else can
we do with this?
And he went out and found a way for us to utilize
Did you practice or did you just dive right in? How did you do this? I had it
was like a six-week R&D process
So so we did the extraction through with all kinds of different chemicals,
right?
Ultimately ethanol worked really well and then every night at 11:00 I would
give Gino a
Dose like on a cookie or something at 11:00 and then I would wait 45 minutes
and locked up in your basement - he was in my pretty much
Rubs the lotion on skin every night and then finally one day
I give Gino the dose 11:45. I said how you feel and he goes I don't think it's
working
I was like boom that's it. That's the recipe and it's in my journal and that
was kind of how
We got into the industry was with that extraction process that recipe that day
now
I've always wondered like this when you use all those chemicals and you extract
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something from a plant are those chemicals in any way?
Is there a residue on the extraction depends we were using ethanol which is
alcohol, but then we were making candy which burns off the alcohol
So there's no alcohol in the candy, but now you have the THC
which is inside the candy and now you can and now we would we would
We were decarboxylating the flour before anybody was doing that and what that
means is
You activate the flour like you can't just take bud and eat it and get stoned
It won't work, but if you why is that because you need to something fat soluble
Yes, you need to convert it to THC acid so you do that with heat so you smoke
it
or you do that with fat like lipids you boil it in butter make brownies so the
fuck did people figure that out?
It's it's brilliant. It's genius or you could do with alcohol and that's
ultimately what we use is alcohol extract butane works as well
Well, what I mean is how the fuck did people figure out that you had to burn it
in order to use it because they're probably eating it long
Before they knew it could get you high. Well, I mean it right if civilization
is amazing
Like how do they figure out if we eat this route ayahuasca works, but otherwise
or not trees doesn't you know the trees told us
They use tobacco in those ayahuasca rituals apparently right right before you
go under they blow tobacco smoke on your face and
Mm-hmm and
Just to get you ready to bomb yeah
Well, I don't even know if it's that I think it's the stimulating effect of the
nicotine has some sort of a kickstart like Terrence McKenna
When he would take mushrooms what he would do is he would take them and then he
would wait
They kick in like an hour or so so while they were he was waiting for them to
kick in he was just roll joints
This motherfucker would roll joints for an hour
And then and then start this is going start going and when the pot really
kicked in like when he would get really really
Hyde that would be right when the mushrooms would come in like a giant tidal
wave and he said he could see it coming
He could see it coming. You could feel it in the ground
And it seemed like there's no way no one else is experiencing this
It's just like this gigantic wave is coming and there's nothing you can do to
stop it
And that's how he would do it. So he would use marijuana smoke to sort of instigate
the the mushroom experience
Which totally makes sense it does but that's a warrior that it will do that
kind of experimentation that dude went
Deep you indeed. He went deep maybe too much. She died of a brain cancer brain
tumor. Mm-hmm
I mean who knows if that was hereditary who knows that that was you know
It related in any way to expanding consciousness or attempted to expand in
consciousness through drugs most likely not especially
But he was really critical of the idea that marijuana was cure a cure for
cancer because he was like look
I am telling you I have cancer and I smoke pot all day constantly
He's like I am your poster boy because if it was
Something that cured cancer. I would not have cancer because you cannot smoke
more pot than me
Like McKenna was just high all day. Right, but there's so many different
cancers and so many different types of weed
Who knows what's what we got to research it?
Well, I think what's really supposed to be the most effective and Gino you
helped my friend when he his mom had an issue with this and this is
Something about Gino net who'd never advertised himself, but he hooked my
friend up with a lot of this
Cannabis oil what's really expensive stuff and you did it just to help his mom
Or just to help his dad rather
Well, he was a good dude, and you know
We were talking about stage four cancer at that that point so there wasn't much
Ever hope that it was going to turn around and cure it. However to ease the
last few months of life. Yeah
Was was working and happening there was a lot more quality of life
which for the patient that that was great number one the absolute most
importance but also for our our friend that we're talking about it was
Great for him because he got the last few months of life together with his
loved one
In a better way not in a comatose setting which he was dealing with for a while
before we got got the you know on the Rick Simpson oil regimen
Well, it definitely needs to be investigated because there's so many people
that have had beneficial effects from it
It just seems insane to not have some large-scale scientific research being
done right now like just humanity as a whole
Like we kind of owe it to each other like if you're not thinking about it right
now because your loved ones don't have cancer
But if this turns out to be really legit this could be another reason why we
need to reconsider this whole
ban on
The legal sale federally of marijuana because it's ridiculous if it can do this
if you really taking this oil and you reduce reducing tumors
Which has been reported in just a shitload of people including friends of mine
I know people that have had cancer and had their cancer reduced by taking
cannabis oil
And I know people whose parents had it and got their their tumors reduced
because of it and autistic kids like the seizures and stuff like that
Our friend whose kid was going from like I mean he was having seizures all day
takes the stuff
He hasn't a seizure in six months sure you look at Jaden and and Charlotte and
all these these kids
How can you how can you tell the parents? No exactly no matter what state you're
in?
How can you tell a parent? No, and that's I think that's when your politics
changes when it affects you personally it definitely happens
It definitely happens and I've seen quite a few stories of that of people that
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have children that had you know
Serious seizure issues and as soon as they got them on the medical marijuana
just stopped and we have a lot of rig really bad
prejudices about marijuana, you know, and we need to expose them like as a
society because they're holding a lot of people back
I know they helped me back. They made me until I was 30 years old. I thought
pot was for idiots
So really did a lot of people do and it's it's important to let them know not
only is it not for idiots
It's it's it's it's a tool that you can use it you can it can benefit you like
this is not a benign substance
It's slippery, you know, like all other
Psychoactive substances if you are on the wrong path
Mentally like you could go off the deep end with it like everything else like
alcohol or anything else
But you see someone who I respect a lot like Graham Hancock who you had on the
show a lot
He was a high heavy user and he got to a point
Where he said you know what my relationship is not good with marijuana anymore
and he took a long break
I think two to three years
He took a long break and then said you know what things have changed in my life
now
I think I could go back and have that relationship start again and
From what I what I understand mostly from the podcast from from him being on
the podcast last time
He is now in a better relationship with marijuana
Yeah, he was in an abusive relationship with himself and marijuana was just
playing a factor in that sure
I'm the one who got him high. Yeah, I got him high on the show when he was
It's like two or three years sober. I'm like dude. You're fine
Just come on. Yeah, you're the smartest dude ever. He loved it
And he and he opened up when I when I gave it to him. Oh my god
He opened up like a flower. He took one hit and then he relaxed and he was
smiling and laughing
We're having a good time and he went on this rant. Oh my god. It was epic rant
epic rant and
I remember thinking like wow that had to be cannabis inspired because it was so
like emotionally
Connected to him does you know essentially like sort of validating his life
work because he was really heavily criticized
Many many times where people just completely ignored any of the
potentially
Positive aspects of what he was saying. Yeah, and just was trying to shit on
all they're trying to shit on all these theories
But as time has gone on it's been more and more apparent that he was right the
whole time about all different things that he studies
Yeah
well, the big one being that
civilizations have experienced many different eras and that what we're looking
at when we look back thousands and thousands of years is the most latest of eras
But there was potentially very advanced civilizations that had a different kind
of advancement
10,000 15,000 years maybe even as many as 30,000 years ago and that there's
evidence of this stuff
There's evidence in the construction of the old kingdom in Egypt
There's evidence when they start looking at certain erosion patterns on the sphinx
sure the sphinx compound like they're talking about like
Something that was built 14,000 years ago plus so all these different new
discoveries that they're having when they're having these new
they find these new things that are like for they found evidence of North
Americans in
Native Americans in North America at 14,000 years ago, which pushes it way back
before they thought it was
They found like woolly mammoth bones with cuts on them and yeah super recently
So this stuff keeps happening over and over again and they keep discovering
these structures and you know
They find things under water they find like sunken cities and shit go back late
Yeah, exactly you can't carbon date stone
So mm-hmm, you know, that's why I go back Lee Tepe so unique because they know
that it was covered up
Somewhere around 12,000 years ago purposely. Yeah, that's that someone
constructed this thing sometime before that there
You know they get a vague idea within a thousand years of when this thing was
built and it was built when they thought people were hunter-gatherers
So this is all stuff that Hancock had already been saying so to see him get
high and just expand upon that and see like
This is a guy that like he's been ridiculed
He's been dragged through the mud people have taken what he said out of context
and tried to use it against him
They've had these really biased opinions about his work and they've you know
made little specials about it
Just shitting on him and it turns out he was right about a lot of things
Yeah, and it's just gathering evidence and making making his his thoughts and
processes on on evidence
And he's a really good guy like he doesn't deserve any of that. He's not a he's
not a bad guy
Like he's a really good guy that's taking a chance that's exploring this really
important subject this idea that
We've been here many times. I can remember reading magicians about maybe with
magicians of the gods or fingerprints of his first first one
Thinking things footprints of the gods, right? Was it fingerprints? No
fingerprints
Thinking thank God. There's a dude out there. I didn't know who he was at the
time. Thank God. There's someone doing this work
I had never heard of any of this before I read that book. Well, there's been a
bunch of similar
Like theorists in the past, but they always connected it to like aliens like
specifically like Zachariah Hitchens
Sitchin and stuff. Yeah
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Well, he here I was was gonna bring up that guy from the chariots of the gods.
What the fuck is that guy's name?
There was a dude von Daniken. Yeah, yeah von Daniken who wrote chariots of the
gods and
Chariots of the gods was like a movie. They made a documentary movie about it
that played in like the movie theater
So I remember when I was a kid it was playing in the movie theaters
And I was freaking out like and people would leave there there to go. Oh my god
There's aliens they visited us like that movie if you watch that movie and you
smoke pot and you're young
It will have you fucking convinced you will be fucking convinced 100% I feel
like I was convinced and it's a lot of Graham Hancock who
unconvinced me by
Because a lot of people think he's part of the ancient aliens theorists, but he's
not really he just feels that that we have lost technology
Well, he leaves the door open. We've had conversations about it. He leaves the
door open for visitation
He leaves the door open for that being a possibility as do I as I think
everybody should a unique moment
where an alien spacecraft came down and ran into 14th century Europeans and
Fucked with them and you know and kidnapped a few and did some scientific
experiments on some and erase their memories
You that of course that could happen
I mean if we can go to Mars we can send a robot to zoom around on Mars and we
watch it on our iPhone
We can do that right now. We're idiots. We're idiots. We can't make pot legal
You've got a robot moving around on Mars the idea that there's something out
there
That's there's no way no one's smarter than us dude. It can't happen like of
course there's could be if we stay alive for a thousand years our
Technology is going to be unrecognizable. It's going to be so beyond anything.
We could possibly imagine today
Just look at how far it's come since like we were kids growing up in the 80s
These things that we see these these things that everybody sees these iconic
gray creatures with the big black eyes those could be drones
100% I mean those could be artificially intelligent creatures that some super
advanced civilization has created to gather up information on people
That's totally possible and that would that would make it so much easier for
them to defy the laws of physics
Defy the laws nothing nothing of laws of physics, but the laws of space travel
like with human beings being unable to withstand
The kind of pressure that it would require to go light speed and shit like that
right these things are some fucking weird robot
Creation that doesn't even you know lives off of a lithium-ion battery. It's
gotten its dick
You know that that that thing might be able to go forever like it might
radiation might not bother it
You might be able to shoot it into a fucking black hole and it comes out the
other side
I mean who knows what the fuck they can do a million years from now, right
because an avatar is just a robot. Yeah
We all know robots at this point can be controlled from a remote control. Yeah,
we it just depends how far away is that remote control?
You know where is that remote control so the chariots of the gods guy and even
the people that the ancient aliens guys that we who the fuck knows
They there might have been a bunch of visitors. It's very possible
It's super possible if we can do it of course
Something out there that's smarter than us can do it better than we could for
sure of course
But what Graham Hancock is proposing is much more likely because it's backed by
actual science
And now that he's he's joined efforts with that Randall Carlson guy and Randall
Carson who's an expert on
Asteroidal impacts. It's it's the the history of them in North America in the
world
I mean he's a wizard when it comes to that stuff and he can just quote it off
the top of his head all these different impact sites
That they found and you realize like oh Jesus we get hit all the time
And not only do we get hit all the time this evidence of a massive meteor
shower impacting Asia and Europe
Somewhere around 10,000 plus years ago, which coincides with the civilization
that they exactly they're talking about
Yeah, so somewhere around that era the human race got fucking basically half
wiped out
Yeah, we had a rebuild and we don't remember we didn't have there's no
electronics back then
So there's no like computers that we could look at there's no photos
They didn't have photographs so they were just basing on people's memories and
things that they could draw
I mean as far as we know they didn't have any cameras I mean who knows I mean
all that stuff if you if you had a camera and
You left it on the ground for a thousand years. There'd be nothing left in a
hundred, right?
They had batteries back then they had something like about they did
Yeah, yeah, and they found that in one of the Egyptian tombs and they found it
in Iraq - yeah, the little copper in the clay
Yeah, they had some kind of computer or electronics that just doesn't exist.
Well, not only that the people who made that battery
They're pretty sure that was 2500 BC
So that was way later than this impact they're talking about this eleven
thousand whatever it was year impact
They think that there's a been a series of these all throughout history
And this is something that's supported by even mainstream science when they're
talking about super volcanoes
There's this one super volcano. We've looked this up three fucking times. I can
never remember this goddamn Gino la speed weed bullshit
But there's a super volcano that erupted 70,000 years ago and killed
Almost everyone on the planet except for a couple thousand people and we all
descend from those few thousand people that survived some massive super volcano
impact
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This is a really
openly accepted
Theory and mainstream archaeology and anthropology they really believe that
this is one of the
Possibly one of the big disaster
Extinction events that happened to human beings and there's been several of
them, right?
I know what you're talking about that's something that caused like three or
four years of an equivalent of a nuclear winter
Yeah
Well here look at it this way you remember Mount St. Helens when we were kids
remember that nobody talks about that
Nobody even thinks about that anymore when we were kids a fucking volcano in
Washington state erupted and people died
They got lava'd yeah, right they got smoked by a volcano
And ash for months in the ash for months and it just conveniently goes away.
There's a little baby
Volcano I mean obviously no disrespect to anybody who died right in comparison
to what Yellowstone has
Yellowstone has a super volcano. That's
600 miles wide something fucking crazy like that
I mean that's still you know, they don't call it active that volcano, but it's
still
Bubbling well, they have thousands of earthquakes right every year thousands
like so, you know shit's going on down there
Like geysers are shooting up boiling water and it's sulfur content and the
water is crazy
Yeah, maybe it's 600 kilometers
600 kilometers like 300 miles whatever it is
It's so big that it's it's a continent killer, right?
They're like when that thing blows everything near it is dead as fuck it
What it is is what they call a caldera
Which means that it's a volcano that was so big the top blew off of it and then
you're left with this big crater
And they didn't realize that until they started using satellite images once
they started using because we've known about old faithful
You know, that's it's a cool place to visit right check out the geysers and
stuff
But that's the the ground is boiling like a hundred feet below you this hot
lava and
Every six to eight hundred thousand years that shit blows sky high and when it
blows sky high
Everyone's dead. We're all dead. We're all dead and California's dead
Montana's dead as fuck everything around it's just dead
that's depressing because it really is just a matter of time before there's
some some
Impact or earthquake or volcano is just a matter of time and which one what's
it gonna be?
Well, what Graham Hancock is exposing is that when you're talking about
Enormous periods of time like 10,000 years 12,000 years 30,000 years people
cannot recall those natural disasters
They lose the ability to communicate sometimes. They're not even using the same
languages anymore
You're dealing with thousands and thousands and thousands of years
I mean just think about just a few thousand years ago latin was like a real
language
You know go try finding someone who's gonna talk latin to you, you know, that
shit doesn't exist a dead language
It's you know, that's only a couple thousand years when you're talking about
30,000 years and the possibility of all these different impacts and different
things happening within those 30,000 years
Like who knows so what he's showing is or what he was showing back then was
that this alternative theory is not
preposterous at all like there's there's real good evidence that
This is not gonna stay like this right like it's not just not preposterous
It's it's probable and likely that which is what's next
Well old faithful was called old faithful because it used to be faithful and
and blow at the exact time
It doesn't do that anymore. It's no longer on the old faithful type of
Schedule that it that it used to be so things are changing. I don't like that
under there
I don't like it makes me nervous. I don't like that, you know, and that's just
in our life
When did that stop? I only recently heard it heard that you know that that's
new story that old faithful is not as faithful as
That bitch, yeah, yeah, it's weird the geysers are hot water water's boiling it
shoots up into the sky and we're like, ooh
Well, let's get out of here before a giant furry monster eats us
Yellowstone's crazy. That's a crazy goddamn place. It is those people have grizzly
bears
Grizzly bears are there all the time. There's a place up and I believe it's Oh
High, California
Where they have these big mud pits that people you know go in that are real hot
and yeah, yeah
But what do you think is heating those under there? I mean that could also just
quickly explode
I I don't know I mean those those hot pits are totally natural in Oh High. Is
that what it is?
They as far as I know they are
Hmm, I haven't been in them. I have a
Healthy fear of them I guess for that
Oh High of just just you know think things like that and um, you know in nature
that could
Mother nature
Just wants to kill us in so many ways
Sort of right now. We're fine. I mean no no need to totally freak out about it
But just the the awareness that this whole thing is probably pretty fucking
temporary
Yeah, and we're in the worst state to live in that's so crazy to say I don't
know why you say that earthquake volcano
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We're definitely better off if we were in like Toronto or something probably
you freeze to death in winter
Yeah, by a semi that hits black ice. Um, I think this is a really good state
Lot of nice people more people dying of weather and natural things in every
other state besides California
Yeah
I mean if there's an earthquake there's gonna be a few issues for sure. Yeah
earthquakes fuck a lot of things up, but
Overall man, like you deal with an earthquake once every couple of decades you
deal with winter every fucking year
If you go back to Ohio, I'm trying to keep them here
Isn't the biggest fault line like it's like Missouri or it doesn't work though
That's broken so like an old train station that that shit broken. I don't know
man
I mean look with that
We're worried about stuff that we know about like these these spots where the
earth could explode
But we're now there's fucking rocks in the sky that could kill everybody. They
they hit all the time
They hit every few thousand years. So these pace spaces of
Civilization like 10,000 12,000 years and these where they find these
structures like gobekli tepi and they like who the fuck
Where did this where's this coming? It's so likely that that's just a series of
events
It's like people build up they figure out society to get things going really
well. They start improving upon things that
boom
Everybody's dead
rotting bodies in the street
diseases wolves
Flee head to the mountains rebuild civilization
First fucking tribes don't make it down to a few people they slowly bond
together
They rebuild I bet that shit happens every 20,000 years or so one of the
theories I heard on gobekli tepi is that's since that's what happened that
There was some devastation at that point that the theory is that they blamed it
on whatever gods and that's why gobekli tepi was just
Covered at that point, huh?
Just hide just hide that shit away. Yeah
Well, that makes sense if you were like a politician you're trying to take over
after the disaster
He'd be like these motherfuckers and their statues ruined everything and we're
gonna fill it in with dirt
Yeah, and that would be like symbolic because you can't like run a dope-ass
city with some statues that the dude before you made
No, no gonna knock those bitches over we still do the same thing today
Well, Isis is doing it right now all throughout Asia. They keep blowing shit up.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, you know
We yanked down Saddam didn't we yeah toward that shit right now head fell off.
Yeah. Yeah, that was that's right. That statue
But so we all do it
We all want to like hide what was before us because what's what we are is good
what we do is right, right?
Especially when it comes to someone like Saddam Hussein
Yeah, like we we like celebrated it when that statue went down. Yeah, see the
statue go down
Fuck that guy. We did. Meanwhile that statue is kind of history
Like we really shouldn't have been fucking with it because like if you could
see what Julius Caesar did
Like if you could go back and see what Nero did like all the atrocities that he
did
You wouldn't want to see a statue of him
But imagine if someone came along and smashed a statue of him you wouldn't be
able to look at it today
Like there's something about when you go to a museum and you look at something
from ancient Rome and you go wow that crazy fucker
What was Caligula's life like? Yeah, who was this guy's life like, you know,
these people were nuts they were out of their fucking minds
They were living at a crazy crazy time of taking over the world with swords and
bows and arrows and shit, but
Is Saddam Hussein worse than them? No, no, no, not really
No, they should have taken that shit and put it in a museum somewhere. My
college had Christopher Columbus pointing at the cafeteria, right?
It just became something over the last decade or so right that Christopher
Columbus was a piece of shit. Yeah, right
You know another thing I believe it's from Graham Hancock, but
The Iraqi Museum had a lot of
Material that just got wiped out during these wars that will never be able to
get back that had to do with
Ancient our ancient societies and Egypt and things like that
So so during these wars, you know the whole place will just looted, you know
The the museum was looted so they lost all of those, you know
That and that's a tragedy that's like the birth of modern civilization is like
the Tigris and the Euphrates that little
Valley there you got to keep that you know, I understand the politics, but you
got to keep the history leave it alone
You that there's rules of war that says you can bomb anything you want, but the
Colosseum in Rome. That's not cool
You do that you were going to talk to you in the hague in a few years
You know the Great Wall of China you guys you leave that alone bomb each other
But there are protected sites in the world that need to stay protected
He isn't that weird like we do we decide like okay? Look we don't like you, but
this building is pretty dope
Yeah, we're not gonna fuck up that building and then I go all right you got it
Like all right no no punching in the face okay cool
Yeah, because they ever bombed Paris to like the Eiffel Tower get bombed or
anything anywhere around Paris get bombed
No, no, yeah, they just kind of stormed through there because they did there
was like a there's still like a lot of munition
There's like this area outside of Paris in France. It's like the size of Paris
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that you can't even go into today
Oh, cuz it's still like ordinance yeah under the ground they keep finding stuff
there
They they stack it up and these warehouses and shit. It's just like a depository
for bombs and bomb chemicals
They all fucking either launched them out of there or they landed there and it
didn't go off or they left behind mines and bombs
It's like this huge area that you can't even go in it's all toxic
It's the size of Paris apparently Wow, yeah
So I was wondering like wonder was there a conscious decision to not bomb like
maybe maybe they did and I don't I don't know
I don't think they did I think they just kind of rolled through there
Mm-hmm because I mean you think London got the shit kicked out of it
See if you find that picture just there's photos of the munitions when they
stack them up
It's crazy picture of Paris getting bombed from the from the air. Oh, well,
there you go
Did they leave the Eiffel Tower? Oh my god. Look at that. Oh
Holy shit Wow
There goes our history like the library of Alexandria got destroyed that was in
Egypt though
I know but I'm just saying that was there in the Muslim
Yeah
I know it's a different time period but I was just I was gonna ask like that is
there something today that contains a bunch of
No, no history that could be destroyed and ruin its setting. Yeah, like
computers, bro
The problem would be if the power went out for more than a couple of years
It's never coming back if the grid got destroyed if something happened
That was so big that it destroyed the power grid and we needed to reestablish a
grid
Good luck and then we lose we lose 50% of the population in the impact and then
you know
Well, we were left with chaos and lawlessness and fucking people starving to
death and no one knows what to do
Yeah, good luck getting the power back on that
And all would take is one of those things it might take a hundred years for the
power to come back on
And that might not even be negative intent of humans that could happen just
from the Sun sure in EMP
We don't know right we we haven't had electric long enough. We might have had
an EMP, you know, what's an EMP?
Electro magnetic pulse which would take out all of the electric like I just say
EMP like we're like yeah
Yeah, yeah, EMP we sit around talk about those all the time. Oh, there's dog
We throw up a girl
Motherfucker, but they they you know, there's
They've tried to make EMP weapons that that'll take you take out a full grid
But if but the Sun could produce that so if the Sun did that it could have been
done in history
Well, we just didn't have electric there's evidence of an of an EMP or a solar
flare that hit sometime in the in the 19th century
And we only know about it because a telegraph like went down all the telegraphs
in America went down for like two days and
Everyone was like what happened and then a couple days later
Everything worked again and and scientists think that it was a solar flare or
an ejection that caused an EMP and just shut down all the power for a few days
here
It would be it'd be walking dead if it happened now. It's so crazy that we rely
on that thing to stay stable
This giant ball of nuclear power. It's floating in the sky
It's a million times bigger than the earth and we we count on it to stay stable
We do what the solar flares still happen a lot though
They do
Recently there was something that it knocked something out from a solar flare.
Yeah, but the Sun has been weird lately
It's been really really dark and strange with not a lot of activity. Someone
smokes too much
Mm-hmm the Sun's been dark and strange not a lot of activity. Yeah, I'm I'm and
I'm like talking about
I'm like yeah, I'm being serious. Oh, what's going on with the Sun like the Sun
normally has a lot of solar activity storms
Ejections all that kind of stuff the last 12 15 years. It's been really quiet.
Oh shit. It's dying
No, it's it's a cycle, but you know everybody freaks out
It's it's global warming it's global cooling. It's climate this it's it's just
a solar cycle
And it's just the Sun is just chilled right now and taking a breather and ten
years when they say solar cycle
They're measuring what they've been measuring over a period of you know,
whatever amount of decades
They've been able to measure solar cycles, but just think how long the fucking
friends been around fun laughs at that measurement
Yeah, the Sun's like oh you expect me to behave like I've been behaving for the
last 50 years
Yeah, good luck with that dude because I got a fucking temper right times. I
like to blow up a whole solar system
Turned into a crisp. I watched this crazy documentary on hypernovas
And that they initially thought that they were they were witnessing when they
saw these gamma bursts in the sky
They thought they were witnessing war between alien races like that was the
initial reaction to measuring these gamma bursts in the sky
And then they realized somewhere along the line that you're looking at like a
hypernova like an enormous burst an explosion
That's so great that if it was in a nearby cluster. It would kill us. Yeah
Yeah, that gamma radiation. I think just blows that we can that we can even
Measure yeah, and they both the thing was that it was happening all day all
throughout the sky
Like they would be like measuring this for the first time and they're seeing
Like all these different spots in the universe we're experiencing these gamma
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bursts. How would you not think it's Star Wars?
Yeah, I would totally think that's exactly what they thought they're like oh my
god
What if they come what if they come and they have this kind of power they have
gamma power, right?
So we have to ban weed we have to you know get society on the right track
It seems like at least we could like give them our gold our women and they may
might leave us be it might be possible to negotiate
But you can't negotiate
I'm just kidding about that obviously, but you can't negotiate with a supernova
You know when a Sun explodes and takes out the entire
Surrounding area for billions and billions of miles. That's it. It's like it's
less it's less
Feared but way scarier, right? You can't build an arc. Yeah escape a nova, you
know
Like it's just not that's just a little water
But it's just apparently it happens all the time, you know, and it's probably
one happening right now somewhere
And you can never convince society of it that hey, we got bigger problems to
worry about then between me and you here
Then pot delivery services you fuck
Absolutely
speedweed.com
speedweed.com
Delivers outside of Los Angeles
So so you'll get a little package like this just like Amazon Prime
Although it'll be in a box that you don't you know looks like just a regular
delivery
This is your QVC. You're getting them you're sending them through the mail. It's
not through the mail
It's through people through medical courier. Yeah. Oh courier medical courier.
How high is your medical courier?
Well, he's in the middle of driving going. What am I doing with my feet?
They actually don't know
What medicine they have because they do all sorts of medication they don't know
okay, so they don't just do pot don't
meanwhile, but they're still high as fuck so
You know
There are regulations that are coming down for for transport as well
The teamsters want to get their their hands in transport, which they are one of
the people who are rallying against
Legalization of marijuana
They're with the the the unions for
Prisons, so they're kind of fighting on both sides
They want to be involved in transportation of marijuana
however, they're lobbying for
To keep it illegal they're the teamsters. They're gonna be on whatever side
wins. Hey, we're over here now. Okay, you're over here now
Yeah, yeah
so so again, you know
What we were considered was similar to the dominoes of marijuana here in LA we
we are evolving
That's what we were doing before this lawsuit happened. We really want to be
considered more like Amazon Prime
So where you're you course you do they make a lot of money
And we think we're dumb. Well now that
I want to be like Circuit City
Well, Governor Brown's new laws have changed so that marijuana companies can be
for-profit now
They don't have to be not-for-profit, which is how it's been for the last 20
years here. So
And so that has to go into effect by 2018
So so that's something to consider also it once that happens that changes
things for a lot of cannabis businesses
But that all said every cannabis business that's in in LA that's not a dispensary
in that whether they're making edibles or they're making
Vaporizers or or anything and it's a thriving industry. They're all illegal
Every bit of it so regulation does need that that happen you know here in LA
and what we're asking for isn't he just overturn this
We're not saying that we're saying we know the city attorney
Does believe that safe access is important?
But he feels he has to uphold this law that that was put into effect before he
was the city attorney
So since he knows this is a bad law
That he has to enforce he could also affect change by
Helping go down the path of legalization for good businesses
He's he's not an idiot. He realizes what a bad law is. He just knows his job is
to enforce it got it
So, okay, hopefully he'll join the fight to find a path towards legalization
Okay, what can people do the people that are listening to wrap this all up what
uh the people that are listening?
What's a good way to follow this or a good way to help good way to help if you're
in California?
A good way to help is to join our collective even if you don't buy anything and
we'll keep you in touch with the politicians
And we'll put pressure on them if you're outside of California. What does that
mean you be politicians you put pressure on them joining?
What would that entail?
Uh joining our collective like if you're a medical marijuana patient join speedby.com
and
We are working actively with the city to try to solve this. It's not much so we're
fighting in court
Yes on one hand, but on the other hand, we are conversing with the city like
the city knows this is broken
Okay, but what do you mean by joining your collective like what does that entail
go to go to speedby.com click join and you put your
Name email address. That's all they have to do. That's pretty much it
Do they have to show you proof of medical marijuana license?
They do if they want to order prescription, but if but they could join your
collective without doing that
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They need to show proof that they're a patient to join our collective. Oh, okay.
All right. That's what I was asking
Yeah, so but we also have guys are so lackadaisical with this it's so normal.
It's like yeah, just join our collective like
It's it's hard to you know, it's hard to be you know
Most people don't know what we're even talking about
Easy as possible you can if you don't have your card your your doctor
recommendation
You could get it right on our website by doing a skype session with your doctor
and you know
We told the story about about how how we got our cards in the beginning. It's
changed so much. Wait a minute
Doctor or I have to get my doctor to do a skype session. You have your own
doctor, right? Yeah, so not your doctor
You're saying not your doctor. You're done. We have a group of doctor, right?
That's what I'm saying that are
Professional doctors that you'll do a real skype session and they'll and they'll
talk to you about what your ailment is and
And you could get your card instead of going somewhere. You could just do it
right in your living room
That's an important point. Yeah, you were making it seem like the guy had to
get like I gotta get my doctor
No, no, no
Hey, I've been at one o'clock. Jesus Christ. How many tokens take ten minutes
to do right on our website?
We have that's amazing
Interactive people waiting that it will that's a selling point will take you
right through the whole process
This is what we need to do
We need to buy a warehouse in california and a bunch of people use it as their
mailing address and then get people from other states
To become a part of your collective and they have like a fake mailing address
then we hook them up
But we are we going to talk more about that idea
After this goes dark because city attorney's watching and I know he is
It's illegal to do it that way
But I think it's just funny that you know you have to be in this patch of dirt
in order to follow those rules
Like you can't I couldn't join the collective you couldn't be like from wisconsin
and decide
I want to join one of those california pot collectives. I'll skype in with the
doctor and
No, you have to actually like have like your mail delivered here. It's so
stupid
It's weird like an arbitrary put line in the sand politically across this line
go to jail
Yeah, come back here get baked and have a good time
Well, that's what happens with people that go into texas you fuck up and you're
in a tour bus
Oh, no, that's a son of the police you get pulled over and you're like, oh, no
We got pulled over for weed in texas
This is not like getting pulled over for weed in california and next thing you
know willie nelson's in jail
Yeah, that's how willie nelson got arrested, right? Yeah, it's hilarious that
someone such a piece of shit
They arrested willie nelson i'd quit my job. So my kids are going hungry. Fuck
this. It's actually great
It's actually pretty scary getting pulled over with weed in california nowadays
because the dui rate has gone
Crazy my friend's a lawyer dui lawyer and half of his cases now are just from
marijuana
And they have a new test where they do the same kind of thing with your eye
But it like goes left and right real fast if you're high
Or something like that and if they feel like that they can smell weed and if
the if you fail this test
You're getting a dui just like and you're saying it was left to right real
quick
So you know when when when you get pulled over they do the test with your eye
like follow my hand now
I think with alcohol
I think it shoots over
Like your eyes shoots over to the left or the right really fast or it's jerky
When you're when you're high your eye reacts different every it's kind of like
a jiggly left and right effect when it can't be any science
Well, that's that's it right now and find that out right now in court. They are
fighting just that
If it's if it's like legit test and and they don't have a like a 0.08 for weed
yet
So they don't really have any laws. Here's the main problem. I think you'll
agree with me
There's never been a study that shows any loss of motor skills. Nope none right
there was one study about driving
While smoking weed and that they found that people actually performed better.
Yeah, well, that's the problem
It's not a motor skill thing. It's not like alcohol
Everybody knows that if you drink too much you don't drive good. Everybody
knows that it's bad for your motor skills
Pot's not it's simple. So what are they pulling you over for exactly state of
mind?
So because if it doesn't affect your motor skills, like is it affecting your
judgment?
Can you prove that people are intoxicated on marijuana perform less
Intelligently than people that are intoxicated on caffeine or cigarettes
because you know they're doing that a cop could pull a guy over
He could have a cigarette in the corner of his mouth drinking a cup of coffee
and no one says a word
Those are two drugs interacting with each other. No one has a problem. So it's
a state of mind issue
So and he could have those drugs and still have a couple of pops at the bar
To really amp up all that aggression and still legally drive behind. But what
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is um, what is intoxication?
I mean isn't intoxication supposed to be a loss of motor skills
Well, right, but it's it's sort of arbitrary because what what is intoxicating?
I mean the swab test just did not pass in california where they were trying to
to swab for thc
Molecules and it's like no that's totally you can't do that you can't do that
because someone can just walk through a party and then they get
swabbed and they're in trouble
They don't even have any of it in their system. You can't you can't do that.
You can't like gino
With what he smokes. I don't know. I don't even know when he's high. I don't
know when he's stoned. Trust me. He's high right now
I know he is. I know he is. Trust me
But you wouldn't know like you so many people are high right now, and you
wouldn't know right of course
So how can you test for it? Well the real problem is
What can you show is bad about being high?
I need to see something on your tests where you show me why you should be able
to pull people over
with why you're wearing a gun and
Shine a light in their face and get them out of their vehicle and make them do
things like what is the worst case?
You're looking for marijuana. Okay, what's the worst case scenario that's going
on with this person?
That's on the marijuana. Are they performing in any way shape or form where
they're a danger the people around them
So if that's if that is true, I think you have to prove that before you put
people in a fucking cage
Yep, it also varies from person to person
I believe I know a girl that smokes a joint she can't drive she can barely
function as a human
But you know like jano could do a whole ounce and he'll be fine to drive as
exact same driver as before if not better
But this girl no way. I wouldn't even let her in the car if she smoked a drink
I bet she probably shouldn't be able to drive anyway. How about that? You
should you can't nerf the world?
Right. Yeah, I mean, but there should be like a test
We've talked about this before like a marijuana test
Like you are a 10 meaning you could do marijuana and anything and you're fine
But this person's like it's rated as six. It's just but it's a mind issue. It's
not it's not a motor skill issue
This is where the problem lies
It's like yeah
I guess some people would freak out when they're on pot and they would lose
their mind and maybe they shouldn't be intoxicated
But those people probably lose their mind if someone yelled at them right now,
like some people are just weak
They just whatever the the glue that keeps their reality together
Is just really fragile and then throw some pot in there or a drink. I mean, how
many people do we know that have one drink and like
They get fucking crazy. That's the person whose reality is really shaky, right?
But that doesn't have anything to do with me
You know and it the the idea that cops
Look towards that as being the standard is ridiculous, right?
So like if I was gonna say if you have like a festival like a
Cops test potheads festival
We would do it. We would fucking do it look for sure you could have go-karts
set it up
What do you want to do you want to have fucking one of those mud bogger races?
Yeah, we'll do this let us smoke pot. We'll do all that
We'll have jiu-jitsu tournaments where people smoke pot before they do jiu-jitsu
get orange cones and clipboards and some weed and people will join
Fuck yeah, and we'll learn. We'll know. Yeah
You need to show some sort of significant issue
Because there's a significant issue with some people
But you're not even stopping those people from taking who knows what the fuck
they're taking as far as
Antidepressants or psychoactive substances prescribed by their doctors and how
many people are on fucking Adderall, man, that's meth
They're taking meth. They're driving around
You know, I know a bunch of adults that take that shit on a daily basis. Yep
So what you're dealing with is a lot of different chemicals that could
potentially fuck with the mind
Like why are you concentrating on pot?
Like you haven't shown any reason to concentrate on pot, you know, the chief of
police
In new york city recently said that every crime could be tied back to marijuana.
That's hilarious
That's including him
You know, which is a criminal outrageous because it's just trying to give more
reach for office police officers to pull you over
That is such a crazy irresponsible thing to say
That's like saying every crime could be tied back to water or parents. Yeah, we
all have 96 percent water
Yeah, it's it's all stupid man. It really is. It's it's it's just something
that should be a joke that we look back on from the 1930s
We look back and go wow
Look at the craziness that these people had to deal with back then
But instead we have to deal with it today in the age of google and information
Scientific studies ad nauseum that all show the same thing and none of them
show any negative effects
None of them. There's like some questions about memory. That's it
But it seems to only affect you while you're on it when you get off of it
It doesn't seem to have any effect on your memory at all
I mean the head of the DEA currently said medical marijuana. That's just a joke.
Let's let's let's get past that and
The head of the DEA before that
When asked by congress it is marijuana
More detrimental than meth she said she can't answer we played that many times
on the show because it's so ridiculous
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That was laying heart, right? Yeah, she was in this
Was a senator or something kept grilling her?
Mm-hmm
If you haven't seen it, it's fucking infuriating it is so what's so infuriating
also is that we all know so how come these people who are in power?
Aren't aren't in the know why guys why it's not that they're in the not in the
know
It's that they are the official response, right? So they look that lady's just
doing her job
She couldn't just speak out of turn. She couldn't she would get fired
She couldn't just say whatever she wants even if she doesn't even if she doesn't
believe that it should be illegal
She's not gonna say that because that's not her job
Her job is to do whatever the her the fuck her superiors tell her to do
And to stay employed and make sure her budget doesn't get caught exactly
exactly that's her job
So it's not even her fault
It's the fault of the system that they accept that the whole thing is preposterous.
It doesn't
Doesn't hold up anymore. Well, this is why we have to play this game of
politics
Um, you know, we just want to want to run a business and a good business
But we have to play this game of politics because if we don't from the bottom
Effect change to those people who are at the top then we then and let them
continue to create these laws
We could just go another 20 years with these bad laws when there's no reason
for it
Yeah, yeah, I think you're right
I'm just hoping that what's going to go on is that as you know
From the time that I first got my license of today
How much more open it's been much more relaxed?
People are much more accepting people are of it and much more accepting amongst
grown adults
You just see the attitudes of people they're changing and people understanding
how beneficial it how beneficial it is
Especially for people who need it medically cancer patients things things along
those lines kids with epilepsy
add things along those lines, there's just so many people that benefit from it.
It's it's
Hopefully it's on its way out all the the laws are on their way out. Yeah, and
and you can't just
Disregard the experience of of the masses. Yeah, you know exactly
It's not fair that's because we're lucky to be in sort of the social media age
Which can be annoying at times, but it also allows information that move very
quickly
So it's so if your kid is helped by having fewer seizures everybody's going to
know about that in 24 hours
So so you can't really suppress the truth any longer and even texas is polling
positively
Florida is going to pass it. You know pennsylvania just passed it. It's the dominoes
are falling
The dominoes are falling and people like Chris Christie are going to be as
amber line likes to say on the wrong side of history
Mm-hmm, and that's just there's no other way around it
It's just this guy's a fool. He's a fool and he needs to get off the sugar
Contact mark sisson bitch. He'll straighten you out primal blueprint.com
All right, that's it. Good night everybody. Thank you Gino. Thank you. AJ.
Thank you red band. Oh red band
You got a show this Thursday
Denver comedy works and then we're right there with George Perez and ryan doing
the following week
We're in new york with the legion of skanks people and the skank fest powerful
skank fest
So, uh, denver comedy works thursday awesome spot tomorrow night. I'm at the
ice house with
Ian Edwards
Ian's doing both shows and I think joey's doing the second show too, so
This will be the last shows that I do before I do my comedy special
So, uh, all right, you fucks. AJ. Thank you. Thank you. Gino. Always appreciate
you guys. L.A. Speedweed.com
Speedweed.com speedweed.com you you fucking monsters. Thanks, Joe. Thanks,
buddy
Thank you.