Kevin Smith

00:02let's do it Yeehaw Kevin Smith we did it again is it happening yes sir we're there we're here we're live um this took a while to bring together dude so nice to see you though excellent to see you before we go f any further or far at all or do anything let me just throw out there I was telling somebody like what are you doing today I was like I'm going to go talk to Joe Rogan then I launched into to my like 10-minute Joe Rogan pitch and at the end of it the person I was talking to goes oh like you you've known him a long time I said I've I've talked to him like twice in person and she was like you just went on a passionate tiate about the man I said I got I don't know how to explain it but I love the way he lives like every I've I've loved the man since news radio and then like meeting the man and and speaking with him on previous podcast both his and mine but not just that and

01:00I love your philosophy I love the way you do life you handle it like the way I would if I was you like that's the best compliment I could give but I'm not you so I'm gutless and I live through your Instagram like I look at how you live I was like this is how a man lives if only I could be this man so coming here is is absolute pleasure I thought we were going to your house but that happened years ago apparently yeah I moved out of the house this people got creepy there's too many too many creepy people like when you don't want them coming to your house but you do want him on the podcast I'm like when I went like this is it must have been a while ago because Megan was still working for me and she drove me and she like had to take a league she pissed outside that's right we did a Five Hour podcast went so long and then I felt bad I was like maybe that's why he's not

01:47having me back at the house he's like we're bringing him to the satellite office cuz he lets his assistance void in the yard I'm feeling dope sir let me tell you why I made this movie called yoga Hoser that just finally came on to Netflix and I took it to Sundance in January and they bent me over and just critically speaking and were just hate it they hated this movie A lot of people reviewed it from the moment we announced it I'm like hey I'm going to make a movie with my daughter and Johnny debson and his daughter's going to be in it too and right away I saw like the long sharp knives come out and so as expected it goes to Sundance and you know so I'm not saying this movie is for everybody it's for like 10 people in the world but the 10 people that love it will love it like religion and Stu well haven't you always done that though you just kind of do what you like to doing my life if I

02:34could turn it around and turn on you what I like about what you do is you're you're very much an accepted inside guy who lives like some guy from Jersey who's trying to break into the business is that like this is useful because you never really understand how people professional see you you know how the world sees you because they'll tell you at any given moment Joe Joe normal or Sally normal people who live in the real world and but your peers and people like we work in entertainment and yeah how you're very unaffected you're a uniquely effective but also like ineffective at the same time no no you're very effective you're effective at doing what you enjoy and that's why you have such a unique and loyal fan base is cuz they know there it's like in this world there's not a whole lot of unique Visions there's a lot of ideas that get brought to producers and

03:29executiv and a bunch of people Pile in and it becomes more of a an idea where it's trying to appeal to a broader audience and it's switches up and then someone wants to bring in a love interest or there's all sorts of influences that happen that homogenize as you drink some milk I know that was perfect Tim milk oh my Lord that was perfect the perfect timing of a standup comic well done it does really that's the best word for it because even though if it's good like you you you don't feel like that guy like Tarantino is one of the unique guys where even though his movies are these gigantic Mega Blockbusters it feels like yeah it feels like this crazy just got the money and the wheels and they're listening to him because he's Tarantino your movies have the same kind of feeling connects with more people yeah there's more of a like oh yeah that's cool it's Cinema of cool because you

04:22could just look out even if you don't have an experiential connection to it like oh I once went to a 50s Cafe as per you're just like that looks badass seen John jolta dance BL Thurman that's badass all the way up yeah everything about it is just like Cinema of cool and fed by a lifetime of movie loving and a movie diet yeah so if you love movies here's a guy that distills everything that's the essence of cool of cinnamon I don't want to keep hitting the cool Bell CU people are like come on that's a hipster turn but it it does distill it down to those moments not so much like massive arcs but oo this feels awesome that's oh that's metal well yeah you have that same kind of thing your your movies are very people well it's your your comedies think I'm the only one your comedies in particular like that was one of the more interesting and unique things about red

05:13State cuz I had no you didn't tell me a word about it you said I don't want you to know nothing just come sounded filthier than I meant to do me and me and Marin sit there and watched it and we at the end of it we were like holy like holy like what the was that like that movie was crazy it wasn't comedy at all it's nice to be able every once in a while like throw him a curve and be like oh he's we thought we saw everything like I always felt most people saw me as like oh he did clerks and then he's done about 96 variations on people need to see red state if you haven't seen red state that is a I don't want to say too much cuz I want people to go into it the way I went into it just go see that movie but that's another movie where even though it wasn't like the same voice it was still a unique voice you know it's like like I think I don't know what it's

06:00like to make a movie but it's got to be the lot of people have a lot of say depends what your budget is the bigger the budget the more you know you have to listen to a bunch more people and you can't be unreasonable about it if you get tremendous amounts of success like JJ Abrams and you're a nice guy at the same time you know you can get away with being like I'm going to do whatever I want and people like what you want tends to work so here go nuts but generally speaking the more money you accept the more input you also have to accept lower the budget and it's coming out of your pocket you ain't got to say to anybody or nobody can tell you anything but you know if you're putting together something small it's still a smaller circle of people to kind of answer to you always have to be willing to hear what they're saying if somebody's willing to give you ungodly amounts of

06:43money to make pretend mind you this is not like I'm going to give you funds and you're going to give me eggs and then I'm going to sell those eggs and I'm going to make more money selling those eggs they're like we're going to give you money and you're going to take this goofy idea you have and try to make it real and and turn it into a movie that may work or may not work it's all crapshoot it's like buying a lottery ticket to a large degree no guarantees that there'll ever be an audience for it so I learned that Midway in my career and realized well just work for you sounds masturbatory but it's like if you're the audience that you're trying to hit then you'll always be satisfied you know it's like if you want other people to like it it's subjective and and you may not find that people dig what you're doing and you know if you're looking for monetary success good luck

07:27nobody can guess that like even when when Marvel releases a new movie and we know marvel is exceptional to what they do put him in Pixar Marvel Pixar I don't care the best of the best even when they release a movie they clench a little bit cuz they're like Anything Could Happen Like Anything could happen at all so generally speaking they're a little more insulated from like oh we lost money well especially those those Marvel movies are so expensive now cuz they make dude it's like the same thing with the animated movies the animated movies are ungodly expensive to make but they print money and they print money not just the first time they come out at the box office they print money through all the licenses they print money where you know sometimes you go like they're doing a sequel to that why why don't they do something new because they've already built the world it's

08:15already there in a computer and they're like all we need is new script and we're good we've done our infrastructure like when you think about it if you were building something you build all this massive infrastructure and spent three years putting it together and did it once and then you're were like okay everybody goodbye forever it's kind of a waste of everything you put together that's why they immediately go for a sequel a they know they're going to make money but B they're going to make more money because they don't have to invest as much time and money as they did the first time so that's what makes a studio go like oh that's easier that's loow hanging fruit and everyone's happy you know it's not like they're making art films that only a few people like generally they tend to make flicks that a bunch of people want to go see and that rils up people that want to see

08:54newer films or something like that cuz like why is it always the same movie over and over again but you know I submit to you if you're going to see a Superhero Movie expect a little sameness it's a story of like an exceptional being with powers that others don't and hopefully that person will use it for good you know you could only cut that cheese so many times where and and say it's something new I think the Watchmen took it to a new place yeah and I love the Watchman but at the end of the day it's just like people in MK doing the right thing and yeah they in space but other than that it's people a mass trying to do the right thing they were murdered too they murdered each other like that they caught up in Batman v Superman I heard there was some murders in that movie in the movie I was like did they say somebody died in prison and and over Batman you know they they went in

09:40strange directions but after a year of like just taking it over a movie that nobody saw because it didn't really come out conventionally we tour it and stuff like that yoga finally goes to Netflix and I just want to go back and like here let me just assure people if there's something you want to do do it like as long as it doesn't hurt somebody um especially if it's something like makes something like a movie or comic book or art whatever the don't worry about the consequences there was a moment throughout this year where I was like was what what was I why I was stoned why did I make that movie like oh my God I'm a idiot and stuff and I forgot somewhere along the way that like when I made it and this isn't a cop out of like I didn't make it for everybody but I did kind of Target an audience for it and I knew going in that I was going to have this weird life

10:26to get to where it is I I made it for tween girl specifically I was like maybe other people could enjoy it but this is for a tween girl the way like when I was a tween boy I was clicking around cable and I found Strange Brew starring Bob and Doug McKenzie and I was like oh my God like I've never heard of this before how come nobody ever heard of this this is mine like you have a sense of ownership to it it changed my life it's one of my favorite movies and informed what I would become in life the kind kind of Comedy I would do and so by Bob and Doug M Bob and Doug Mackenzie think about it dude I made Jay and Silent Bob you don't get to Jay and Bob without Bob and Doug McKenzie it's not a direct line from chich and Sh to Jay and Bob right hilar I felt like I want to make a movie I got you know I have a daughter and she's 17 now but for years I was always

11:09trying to take her to like flicks where it's not you know Iron Man Spider-Man Superman Batman it's like hey is there lady up in the mix here that's not just like and black widow you know like somebody who's now they're making a Wonder Woman movie but so I said you can sit around and curse the darkness or you can make a you know you light a candle so I was like all right like let's make this thing that I'm trying to take the kid to that I could never find and and she got in acting so she's in it and she's the reason I did it if it wasn't for her I wouldn't tried it and but she had a small role in Tusk I thought she did good so I spun off her character and her friend Lily Rose's character into this whole movie so when I was making it I was making for like you know you want to talk about playing a game of darts it's like you're not going after anybody between girls and I knew in that

11:52moment I was like it's going to be a long time before they get it they're not going to find it in theaters it's a weird hybrid midnight movie it's a stoner flick the villains are one foot tall Canadian Nazis made of BR where it's called bris like it's a up weird ass movie so they'll find it like the way I found Strange Brew on cable I had this dream like two simple dreams in regard to this poster I want in regards to this movie I want a poster where two girls just stand not next to each other and they're not like fighting over a boy or something like that they're just hanging out the way like Dante and Randall hung out on my Clerk's poster and then like that that it would eventually wind up on Netflix or some streaming service that's like amidst hundreds thousands of other movies and some tween girl is clicking through one day bored of and watched everything

12:34and and suddenly sees the picture of like two girls standing next to each other hockey stick little sausage men and going like what's that and like it becomes their religion their Strange Brew or something you know you can't always go for the world um it'd be nice if you can satisfy everybody but you're trying to satisfy yourself which sounds very Murr but at the same time it's like I I hope people go on the journey um but I understand if they can't like sometimes we go into directions where the audience the entire audience can't follow us I'm sure you got some people who love you are like yeah I don't dig on MMA but I love everything else you do it's like they could go partially they can't go all the way with you sometimes and I get that you know it's like especially lately I've been making movies that are real like dare like not daring but like I dare to

13:19get through this you know it's a real like clearly he's GI doesn't give a about the audience anymore he's just making to watch their reaction change that's not true there's something there and stuff but I know that it's a used to be a wider Bridge people could cross to get to me and now the bridge is getting smaller and smaller cuz I'm like you got to like this you got to be interested in this like Tusk the movie I made after red state was a movie about a guy tried tries to turn another guy into a walrus you really got to be in the mood to see a weird batshit stupid movie that's intentionally like is this dumb is he serious and like it plays it so straight and like we're Argo so clearly I'm in a very experimental like let me around I've done enough I feel good let me around and it finally paid off that's the point of this whole story like after a year getting my ass kicked online and

14:03people being like he lost it and now that audience is starting to find it now that it's on Netflix all of a sudden I'm hearing from tween girls that like the movie and parents of tween girls they're like oh my God how many of them like 40-year-old dudes pretending to be girls I hope it is I hope it's all of them dude I don't give a at least two it's I'll take them all if they were all 40-year-old dudes that said nice things about it after a year of people being like it blows it's to have people being like Oh it blows on purpose or oh I get it or blah blah blah I got I got to ask you this how much of your thought process when you make something is worrying about how it's going to be received or or dealing with the people that don't like it lately not anymore about about either but sooner or later there's a factor of want toy because that has to do with you know

14:53whether the thing makes money or goes at the box office how something makes money is completely different now you're never counting on like oh people will come out and see it in a theater and like that um you know there's a bunch of different revenue streams at this point and stuff thanks to the digital age but at that point when I'm making it you know you of course you think hey somebody's going to see it it's not like you're doing it in a in a you know kind of like a an abyss and nobody's there but you or something like that but at the same time you know you're when it's all done just stupid questions like what you know uh what do you want the poster to look like dictates a commercial thought you know I can't say like I never think about that because sooner or later I somebody's going to ask me a question that I have to you know whe they're like hey man we get it you're making it for

15:42you but you did take a few million bucks like how do we sell this how do we get our money back you know so you know then you that's when you start going okay uh how do we get it to the Right audience no more like how do we tailor it or how do we trick them into seeing it or something like that like put it on Street and then dealing with the Fallout yeah I used to have to deal with it a lot more I used to choose to deal with it a lot more and now it's just like I'm 46 like I don't know else to tell you like there was a person who came to one of the screenings on the road we had the screening at um I forget where we were I want to say New Orleans and of yoga hosers I was doing Q&A afterwards and you know everyone's getting up and they're like oh it's fun it's stupid and asking questions and then one guy gets up and he is like tight dudee he's very serious and he's

16:29just like uh okay you told a big long story before that movie began and I did it was a big intro before the movie began told like an hour long story of how we got there and he goes that story did not match the movie I just watched and I said no and he goes not at all and he goes why did you make that movie he's going I found that unwatchable I like and everyone in the audience is going oh and I was like no man he he paid like he overpaid to see this movie if I'm sitting here talking so yeah let him say what he want like I'm a big boy I'm fine and so he goes I just don't think you ever should have made it it's terrible and I said well you understand that's subjective right like you're surrounded by a bunch of people that feel like the opposite way um so you know and people were plotting and and then uh some guy behind him in line jumps in front of the mic and goes you want me to kick his

17:16ass and I was like no no I was like Everyone's entitled to their opinion I said but his opinion is I never should have done this and you know my answer to that is like that's ridiculous like if if I I wanted to make it like that's the only reason we're here I just want to see it like you could choose not to see it and in this instance I'm really sorry that like you didn't our taste didn't coincide but every time I go to do one of these things I do it the same way whether it was Clerk's up to the most recent one I just make the movie I want to see and hopefully others like it and sometimes they do and that's amazing it feels great and you're like holy my finger on the pulse and sometimes you're alone but at least you're like I'm happy with the thing that I made I said but I feel heartbroken that you came out here looking for something I didn't give you so I said I'm gonna give

17:59you your money back and I G pulled out 40 bucks and I was like put it on the there's like a riser uh speaker and he goes I don't want that and I was like no man honestly take it's not a trick it's not like Jason m is going to come out and hit you with a hammer just take it like I feel bad I want you to have a good time and like that he goes no I don't want that and I was like dude it makes for an excellent story like you could be like I told him his movie blew to his face and I took his money and walked out and he goes no and he went and sat down and crossed his arms and just stayed there for another like half hour during the Q&A so for him was worth the 40 bucks just to be like I'm going to Vis verb like just sit here and hate on this and let you know and then sit down again so you know you deal with that but that's the memorable one because that never happens generally speaking like

18:42when we toured the movie you're touring in a you're in a safe Zone it's like going out on and doing a club night it's like people there are there because they love you they're not going I wonder if this tween sausage movie is for me like they're already dialed in some part of the journey like oh I've LED Tusk or I've been with him since clerks or so forth and so on I'm I feel like I'm rambling let's talk about no no you're not rambling at all it's interesting because the the relationship that you have to the people that buy your stuff is very direct you know mean you also have a podcast so you talk about things in a pretty open and honest way like this and you know you express vulnerability which uh makes people super uncomfortable does it really that experience not it doesn't make me uncomfortable but in the world in if you tell people like oh I up and I'm

19:34stupid or I'm fat or my dick small they're like hey man hey that's too much well I think there's there's two factions there's one faction that that enjoys it and they go Hey Kevin Smith is just like me he's kind of up just like I am and nobody really get ever gets it together and then there's like there's the facts and like God I wish he was like Will Smith Will Smith just seems to have his together always like Will Smith just keeps knocking it out of the park and the only reason is cu we share that last name that's why there's an expectation connecting me to thaty came up with a guy who never fails all right I thought it was out there in the world you're like anyone I talk to says you should be more like Will Smith do Will Smith is essentially a never fail guy right like name of Time Will Smith has failed yes look I'm with you generally speaking he always gets jiggy

20:20with it but there have been there have been moments where he too you know we saw him be mortal Wild Wild West was one of the first ones that movie winged tiny bit but he still got to rise but there have been a couple flicks recently including the one he did with his kid once again he got punished for making a movie with his kid as well yeah well and he's raising those kids in a real interesting way that's where that's where he gets most of his Flack these days his son his son's all about Stardust and his daughter's not that far off really yeah they're both kind they're both really creative kids but they they have been raised in a world much different than the world that most people are raised in nothing wrong with that but it's produced very interesting results yeah and there when you're if you're I guess if you're that sheltered like your dad some super movie

21:09star type character your transition to regular ordinary adulthood is probably like super confusing I I got I got one kid and I'm not Will Smith by any stretch of the imagination I Ain even Joe Rogan which is not saying you ain't Will Smith but I guess it kind of is definitely not Will Smith so but I got you know I've I've done some so some people know me and stuff and I got a kid and I was talking to her recently and it came out that she was like well it's yeah it can be hard to be your daughter and I was like what are you talking about I was like I put you in things I'm making and stuff and and she goes no it's not that you make it hard it's that there's this expectation like you did something and now if I don't do something what the and I'm like oh don't worry about that I said no I I did one thing like 22 years ago and and that's that's it like all you have to do is find one

22:04trick you can take your whole life if you need to but I said nobody expects you to be me and this is a common not theme but like I've Had A Moment Like This Before once with like Scott moer the guy that I do SM cast with and I made like all the early flicks with like he would always say it's tough to live in your Shadow and I was like what shadow we make everything together and he goes well we make your stuff and every time I think about going going to make something I got to compare it to the that we made together and it makes me go well maybe I'm not ready to try it and I was like well I'm that's not my fault he's like I'm not saying it's your fault it's just tough to to live in your Shadow and you know I thought maybe that was his thing years later heard the same from my wife she's like It's just tough to live in your Shadow I'm like what are you

22:46talking about we don't even do the same things and she's like but I can't even think about doing things now without thinking well he's kind of done something like that or is it going to be be compared to something he does and I'm like you're out here mind everything I do fails and nobody ever holds it as a high Watermark so it's not like they would hold you to some same high standard that they don't even hold me to so there's a bit of of that man now my kid is echoing in a little bit where through no fault of my own not like I've created this you know like live up to my standard I'm like everyone do what you want man even with the kid I've never talked to her like a kid I've always talked to her like an adult but now even my kid is just like yeah it makes it tough to go do something because of you and it's not like you did it but you do a lot and and there's a high bar and I'm

23:34like I you it makes me feel bad it makes me go like all right do less but I'm like I got one life you know what I'm saying like I got to accomplish a lot before my old man died 67 like I don't know how long I'm going to live but I want to accomplish as much as I can and create and do and experience things enjoy your time here yeah it's like and and I don't want to take away from all these other people's time you know what I'm saying I want her to enjoy her time and my wife to enjoy her time and Scott to enjoy his time but the sad fact of the matter is in order for you to rise usually someone in your life Falls and it's not a precipitous like oh I've broken but they can't be rising like you when they're helping you build your that's something I had to learn to deal with way early on in my career I used to take advantage of people and not in the way of like oh I'm

24:18trying to take advantage of you but I was like oh we're just working on my thing because what else would we be working on and hey isn't this all great that we're working period and stuff and you forget that not everybody started wanting to do your thing like Scott's whole thing was you know I didn't go to film school to become a producer of your movies I went to film school to write and direct and right and I've been having a great time doing your stuff but that meant 10 years of me not even trying to do the thing that I went to doing stuff so it's a weird feeling man especially because I never really feel successful I'm never like well I understand what a I understand I cast a wide Shadow but I don't think it's a very long Shadow cuz I'm like there's no high bar here kids there's a high bar in as much as like you know I smoke a but there's no like well he made the Matrix

25:01like how are you going to be the kid of the guy that made the Matrix or in or the ladies that made the Matrix now like that would be tough I imagine growing up their kids like hey man your your parents made the Matrix like yeah hey let me ask you this cuz you probably would know the answer to this before we get back to the subject because this subject's really important obviously I'm using you like a therapist today whatever happened to that lawsuit remember there was a lady who wrote a book and she said that she had submitted that book to those brothers that made the m Matrix and that is the exact same story I hear that and then it uh it went to court it did go to court yeah it did go to court it's really interesting similarities between what you wrote and the actual thing I don't remember because it was quite a few years ago but I thought maybe you would

25:43you would know about this Snopes says it's false snopes is a Hillary Clinton shill organization they call designed to keep the white man down don't get political man this is the one place people should run politics it's not even real it's not real it's it's I saw your Instagram post on Election Day where you were like what happened there was picture of the results yeah it was amazing I think that was might have been the place where I actually learned of the results POS I enjoy chaos to a certain extent so I'm looking forward to this I really am I wouldn't live in interesting times as yes I would not have been uh interested in uh Hillary Clinton doing the same goddamn thing that she's been doing just I don't and I'm not a big fan of how he behaves as a human what's up it's not false that uh it's false it's false that she won the the large judgment I guess 2005

26:33there was a case there was a court case and I guess she never showed up to court for her uh preliminary hearing maybe they because she was in The Matrix maybe they paid her off somebody disconnected her and she was trapped and she saw cat on the way there twice and she was like it's entirely possible that she just got paid option like you know what was she how much was she necessar was she like I want half or was she like give me me 50 Grand I'll go away and maybe good question but the Matrix obviously is a pretty goddamn big movie apparently her story was remarkably close I mean look and I'm not taking anything away from them or her but you know like they're archetypes that story and like that that movie is brilliant of course but it's like nobody can really go like well I've never seen anything like that before I mean it is kind of like go to the Bible

27:23it's a Jesus story on some level right like Messianic in nature but if you're talking about these are in big batteries that power a machine that we're all in and plugs in our head then it gets very very close isn't that even but even that concept that of of one day we're going to live in some sort of a virtual reality that that's not a New Concept you know that concept's been explored like do you remember um have you watch are you watching Westworld oh yeah God good that that's you want that is discussing that very subject while being vastly entertaining and you're like oh my God this is a great idea but also they are going into the idea of Consciousness and there are a few times as you watch that show not where you're like are we in someone's game but you start sitting there going everything we know about what we understand to be reality except to be reality is a social

28:15contract in many ways like ideas and thoughts that we all agree on and stuff about what is real what is important like that's why when you meet people who are like don't want to have kids you know some people people are like well that's weird it's like no their reality is like kids are not a part of their reality never were like it's just not in them and stuff like that um I think I think you know this year with the election we've seen literally we've seen reality challenged the thing that we all understood to be apparently was not and now you know things are vastly different um I don't know where I'm going with that save me it's just it's just the the unique thing about it is that we have been living under this illusion that it either had to be one of these people like a Democrat or one of these people a Republican and that these people are politicians and these are the

29:10people that won presidencies I think you know I don't want to there's a faction out there and I don't I don't want to we should really just stay away from this but I will look I'm a guy who always tries to find the silver lining to a situation so I did not vote for this president but I did not campaign against this president stuff you know I went another way didn't work out it's not the first election where I voted for somebody that did not win right SP being the person I'm I you know I'm not going to sit there and be like the next four years like no like you know I've lived through presidencies that I didn't agree with and things work out I hope it was going to work out this time but this is what I'll say it's it's new and we might see and I'm not saying burn it all down and see what happens but we've had how many years years of of a two- party system

29:59essentially where it's like yeah there's lip service to a green party and lip service to another party but we for all intents and purposes I mean I know it was claimed by the Republican party but we saw a huge upset of a third party candidate if it happened once they didn't want him in if it happens once yeah that means it could happen again there's now a new model There's A New Path he was always a Democrat his whole life that's what I thought yeah he was I mean he was I grew up in Jersey so I was very familiar with the man in his work you know throughout my life and stuff he was a prominent figure in the Press always always and he always seemed very liberal leaning and Democratic well what he did is essentially I mean he played a certain group of people in this country and he got to this ultimate position in power and we're not sure I mean look he's 70 years old you don't think he's a

30:50crafty guy like he's probably pretty good at getting people to like him as a certain person who he really is like I think you probably got to get to know him to find out who the he really is Project Feel Like to some degree it's and I'm not taking anything away from him but anybody could have just popped up and been like I'm the other person I'm not her right I'm not him she carried so much baggage and that's the thing too and they were asking and essentially Democratic party was going come on America like let's vote a woman in come on yeah like we just had the black president that was amazing let's have a woman president and I think if they had gone with almost any other candidate that didn't have as much baggage it'd be a different story but they were asking you to like somebody who I didn't have an issue with but a lot of people have got a big issue with

31:39if she was a man it would be a giant problem but we gave her what do you mean well if she had all those problems if she you know all the all all those I mean I don't know we saw a guy with a lot of problems and he I'm saying but I'm saying if he was she was a man and she was up against Trump and she had all those problems oh I crushed she would have no chance but because she was a woman oh you think she got further because oh 100% there a lot of people yeah they wanted to make history they wanted to make history because look from a social standpoint Barack Obama was very important because here was a super articulate guy who's really calm and he just he has a very even uh presence about him always you never seem red up you never see him crazy even like he gets heckled you see that thing where the Trump suppor was heckling him and he handled it with Grace he's just a

32:30graceful guy that's like probably the best way to describe him you know like that was important for the country because that represented like wow hey here's this black guy who's super articulate and so calm and so like the way he expresses himself is so perfect for a president so presidential like there's what a what a perfect example for our country this is us and then I think a lot of people felt like Hillary Clinton would be another one of those things like look we can have a woman running things we're not sexist like look we look we are a really articulate incredibly well experienced woman who's been in business for a long time with the government she's deep inside the Mach service since she was a teenager yes but it was just too much it was just too much for people but I think if that was a man and she had all those same problems it was a man and tied to some Foundation that was

33:33getting all these people that eventually got arms deals and they donated and they they were all part of this weird sort of incestuous political world a man would be skewed with that same record because Trump was running as an outsider you know what he had going against him is he's borish he says ridiculous and you know they could they could point to that that you know recording been talking about grabbing and they're like like look look look who we have here like that that was like the big thing against him but at least to these people that hate the system he was an outsider if she was a man she would have represented even more of an Insider you know I think to a lot of people I think her her actions and what she's done in the past versus her as a woman that was like sort of a situation there because like you ever see the video where she was talking about uh Gaddafi

34:26being killed no this this crazy video man because she's joking around it's before they interview her and she goes it's like before the official interview starts like she makes crack about something and he she had just found out that Gaddafi had been killed and she was like laughing about it she goes we came we saw he died ha and she throws her head back and she's laughing she was kind of hawkish who she was hawkish if that was a guy if a guy did that he would have been thought to be a serial killer a sociopath right if a guy did that like say if Joe Biden like we came we saw he died people would be like do you want that guy in charge of the nukes but we let her go we'll give her a pass there's a lot of stuff that she's done where people give her a pass they put a more interesting cat in charge of the nukes there should be no president this is what I say everybody's like who would

35:24you think should be the president if you have a problem with Trum if your problem no human being should be in control of 350 million human beings it's a Preposterous job explain there there's way too many of us it's impossible how would it be done we don't have to do it this way we're this we' always what the idea I don't have one but we we can't have an alpha champ let's figure it out right here we're smart the internet what about what about uh education the internet mind reading well essentially does it come down to uh what was the what was that movie with the girl shoots bows and arrows and oh uh Hunger Games Hunger Games can we District the country and and then there are heads of District or same thing we'll go to war with each other you're absolutely do all right so that's gone this is a think tank kids this is how it happens got throw every idea to get there one States

36:13states are problematic so then what is people like Utah this is Texas son that's true that exists I grew up in New Jersey and and New York hated us everybody hates everybody hated Boston pania oh yeah you hated Pennsylvania New York hated Boston Connecticut got to pass okay con was like some little kid with a limp like ah don't pick on him well so Connecticut doesn't get mentioned in the tri state area whenever they did commercials it would be like New York New Jersey Pennsylvania exactly I didn't know I thought Connecticut was New Hampshire until years and years like Connecticut is a highway it's a highway between Boston and New York spoken like a poet Connecticut's a highway everyone in Connecticut's like you they are like you but you know what I'm talking about you know I'm right all right wait no States because we war with each other yeah can you something somebody has to

36:59govern no they have to be police and like that I think the best way to probably handle it is let every human being have a say every human being that's of adult age and I think registering to vote should be just as easy as getting an email it should be just as easy as doing everything else that you do online you had a Twitter handle you should be able to vote you should be able to use your ID like whatever whoever you are whatever ever your name is you know call yourself whoever the you want that is one individual vote that's what I think and I think as long as we can figure out how to make that system pure where people can't hack into it you can't log in from 15 different computers if you have a a birth certificate and your birth certificate aligns with this number and that's this and this is you as long as they can figure out how to make it so people

37:49don't hack into it everybody who's an adult should be allowed to vote for people that have gone to jail I think people that have gone to jail the idea that someone goes to jail for 4 years and now they can't vote for the rest of their life I think that's crazy too that's ridiculous especially you pay your debt to society back and you should be able to reenter Society exactly you tell them you can't be a 20-year-old and do something stupid and rob somebody or something and then I'm supposed to think of you a certain way for the rest of your life you're 80 now you robbed somebody when you were 20 that's still you you're dangerous man talking about tearing down institutions but this institutions are a problem no matter what they're always a problem I think the real issue is government right governing us so the real issue is what everybody wants is safety security

38:38protection and unity that's what everybody wants all the other stuff in terms of like restrictions on your behavior we have to just figure it out cut it down the middle between hurts other people and hurts yourself and hurts yourself you're on your own just like you're on your own with rock climbing just like you're on your own with bungee joping so wait give me an example like doing heroin doing it's a hobby it's a choice in high school they'd call it an elective yeah yeah how come you could just go to the roof and jump off but you can't do heroin like no one will stop you you can go to your roof and practice back flip you're making so much sense I'm ready to boot dude I'm ready to Jack a needle in my 12 gaug it right now when you have people two tickets telling other people what to do you've got a tyranny yeah you got a problem even if even if they sort of can get away with it

39:29because it's written down on paper did you agree to it no you weren't nobody asked you about like child labor laws you've you've never no one's no one's pulled you aside I haven't had a saying that for years since I was a child no one's pulled you aside and decided what you know and you you've decided with them how old you should be when you drink right no it's it's it's it's all been done it's all most people don't have a say it's all written down somewhere and the amount of people that vote versus the amount of people that are affected by that V vot completely disproportionate it's really weird man it's really weird we have a ton of systems that are set up completely to do two things one to control people and two to ensure the survival of these systems and that's what bureaucracy is that's a giant problem with government like the DEA the DEA wants so badly to keep

40:19arresting people for marijuana because if they don't they don't have like I better not light up perfect timing again dudee you and I are in sink um what do you mean why why they have jobs their jobs are going to go away there's there's plenty of other drugs D there so little 46% of of all arrests they said what was the number more people are arrested today or have been arrested today for marijuana than all other arrests combined you see me smoking man you want me watching the door for the next hour where I'm like what is that I heard a noise what are you doing but we live in the correct state right yeah right now tell me I'm right well we we live in several if you're going to scare me then throw me a a dick tickle a little bit like tell me everything is going to be okay mhm okay we're here uh Washington State Oregon with the West CO one large smoking section Washington DC and Boston

41:17now Massachusetts and my state Florida is Le is medicalal yeah bunch of medical huge step though for Florida what are the other legal state Alaska Alaska's legal yeah Alaska so are gangsters to the north do you believe the gangsters I love Alaska um do do you believe the theory that as goes California so goes the union like for years they said if California goes legal there you go uh that's interesting I think there's going to be states that resisted still there's guys like that Jeff Jeff sessions guy who's um coming into office with Trump who's who could be an issue but I don't think he will be because I think Trump is a business person yeah he's a business person he's not just a business person he's a populist right he's going to he's going to want people to like him and you know and this doesn't make sense it's not a logical move you know well is as weird as he is

42:08he's not illogical like Hillary Clinton was illogical and this is why I say that and people like cuz I got a lot of from people that are like super pro hashtag I'm with her and I'm like look man she didn't support gay marriage until 2013 do you know how crazy that is until 2013 Hillary Clinton was saying that she believes that marriage was between a man and a woman it was a sacred Union and it should be protected so it's one of two things either she actually beli that or she was in bed with people who were forcing her to behave that way or say that or she thought that she had to say that in order to get elected or either way you're not getting no you can't you can't you can't be a part of that I attended my first gay wedding in 1994 right before clerks came out my brother married his husband Jerry they're still married to this day who so they've been married for 22 years which

43:00is like 108 years and straight people years yeah man that's de part of going outside the box is like I don't have to live like the normies man I could just yeah I can't even get you pregnant I I can I can roam this earth like Kane and kungu but they've been committed to each other and been in a marriage for like a long long time and the best thing about that wedding like it was great number one see my brother happy and and and get married and stuff but like a part of the wedding when the gets slow and you're like oh man let's get out of here yeah you know and and it's just middle Midway once everyone's toasted everybody the dancing's beginning that's not for everybody a drag show started like all of a sudden Donna Summer and Diana Ross oh yeah came down staircase and it wasn't a real thing but boy they looked it and put on a huge show and my father was still alive and uh he just

43:50had a heart attack at that point or a couple heart attacks stroke as well two heart attacks and and a couple Strokes so he walked to the cane and one of his hands was like uh Bob Dole like just kind of hanging there and stuff like that so him and my mom are at this gig at the at my brother's wedding and there we are like on the Dance Floor watching the uh the drag show and you know the performers are lips syncing like famous songs and my mom was she had lot of drinks in her my mom is like boogan and she's got like you know extra weight like every Smith and so you know she's she jiggling here and there and stuff like that in her sleeveless dress my old man was dressed in like a suit that didn't matches put it together and like that but he had his hand on my mom's back and with his we can was kind of leaning on the can but using her more for stability so his hands on her back

44:48while she's dancing and stuff and I watched you know I'm standing right behind him I watched through the course of the song my man's hands slide down my mom's back then spin in a pretty fluid motion for a guy with a couple strokes and go right for the ass cup and not stop on cheeks son but dive deep spelunking for gold like he he went right inside and cued it like this shit's mine Jesus Christ and and I I will never forget that I told my brother I was like my God like you don't realized that's never going to happen at any other wedding but yours man like my father was just like I'm free and he started grab wow his wife my mother now they were married so that's okay she wanted it she didn't fight him she was just like she was uh she was I've had discussions with my mother since about that night cuz now I'm a grown adult and stuff you talk to her about getting scooped of course dude

45:42of course I don't want to leave this earth not knowing it's like you know I don't want to have a propriety relationship with my mother I've had her on the podcast we talk about but I asked I was like Dad you guys looked Randy that night did you guys have sex she said oh yes and I was like I knew it I knew it Randy Randy's a weird word what if your name was Randy you'd be all bummed out the people expect you she's like I feel Randy all the time yeah feel him in certain places others uh where were we grabbing president president pops grabbing oh uh people that aren't truthful and this is like another thing I want to say to people that think that I hate Hillary Clinton oh man you just will not leave the politics alone it's your show go I think but this is what I it's not even a politics thing it's a human thing I think we owe ourselves like as as human beings to not

46:34accept like blatant lies and I don't think it's good for her either I don't think it's good for everybody I mean the the the the rub is supposed to be that once you're in your 60s or something like that that you're done you're done developing you're done growing is that true I don't know I don't think so I think you're alive if you're alive you're a person but we have categories of people right we have people that were 20 oh he's young he's stupid made a mistake and then we have categories like in your 60 oh you're never going to learn anything you're you're you're done developing they're stubborn they're stuck in their the ways like let's just accept the fact that she lies all the time right like there's this video of when they were talking about the emails and there's video of the director of the FBI talking versus her talking like she would say what the director said and

47:17then he would say what he really said it was ridiculous and it's just it's it's like you see that she's being dishonest that's not good for anybody man it's not good for her it's not good for us and I think for a person like her this is probably just a system that she's been competing in forever and that's how this system operates and she's really good at it and she was a lawyer and she knows what you can say and what you can't say and how you can kind of distort things to make them seem like they were better than they were we're still talking about her at this point yeah okay yeah cuz that sounds like him as well him well all of them but doing that when you do that when you do that and we see that that's not good good for us if we say yes to that it's bad for us it's bad for us as a culture no it doesn't not as a nation just as a group of human beings

48:05where one person at a very high level is supposed to be expressing for us like if you're going to be the person who's expressing things us think that's impossible like as you said at the beginning oh yeah but I mean it's so then what's the do you have a binary presidency yes one president who speaks for the for one half one president who speaks for the other half I don't think we should factions I don't think we should have a unique individual or even a small group that runs this thing I think it's crazy done before we got here native the problem is it was done in small groups because everybody was a small group there were tribes and and even if you came over on a boat you came over on a boat with all those other Psychopaths that were willing to hop across the ocean with you how many could get on the boat a thousand I mean what's the most amount of people they had on like one of

48:53those boats why don't you Google that like uh the Mayflower really have a a sense of adventure to get over here you got to be a crazy person right so it's all really hate it where you are small towns small groups little Villages I mean that's essentially why we had representative government in the first place because these guys in Utah couldn't really talk to the guys in DC like somebody had to talk for you you're over there it would take you months to get there so they have to decide how the thing runs so you have to vote in your little spot and this guy sends his vote 102 passengers Jesus Christ that's no one which one the Mayflower 102 passengers that's it half died the first winter half died the first win with 102 and 51 made it holy half died the first winter they froze to death just think about that when you're like how come I can't get Wi-Fi in theway train my God 102 people

49:45sailed the ocean blue oh my God that's and it probably was blue back then and then came here with an idea up let's start America yeah imagine what the ocean was like back then probably amazing of those little be make those weird be plastic bead Islands out in the middle you ever seen those yeah I have seen thatly beautiful but yeah and birds choke on it and I read an article that said that seagulls or birds in general are attracted to the smell of plastic well be well I've read something they're saying because a lot of plastic has food on it like even if it's like in a microscopic that would sense to me yeah yeah well a lot of our plastic comes in contact with food for sure but I I read another thing about a certain type of bird uh that lives on this one Island where it's a real epidemic that these mama birds are bringing back plastic and feeding it to their babies

50:34oh my God yeah there's these babies super villain plot it's awful there's these bodies of these birds and their stomachs are filled with plastic and you know they're rotting their bodies are decomposing and the plastic is just sitting there exposed yeah it's super dark where can we talk about something F you're harsh I was in Hawaii recently man and I was with uh this dude when this is not not a very positive thing either unfortunately he's been a commercial fisherman for a long time it's named Steve shout out to Steve okay uh Steven scooter took me out fishing um but he uh when we were fishing he was telling me that he's been doing this forever and he lived in Costa Rica and you know ran a uh like a fishing camp out there and and now he's doing it out of Hawaii and I was like well how much of a difference have you seen like over the last you know a few goes oh it's

51:24huge it's a huge difference he's like now like 10 20 years ago like 30 years ago the amount of fish he's like it's just totally different he's like less fish oh way less fish he's and then he sort of explained to me all the different methods that these commercial uh fishing corporations use I mean that how they they go like hundreds of miles off sea they have these massive Nets they capture these tuna and they can them on the boat like they have this system where they're and they're they're just thousands and thousands of pounds of tuna just scooping it up killing them canning them like you don't think about it when you go to the store and you see can tuna you think I'd like some can tuna o i remember star kiss I could go for a tuna salad sandwich Charlie with whole wheat and some nice uh alala Sprouts on that maybe little cheese best tuna chicken of the sea or how about a

52:21grilled cheese sandwich with tuna where you butter the outside of the bread and you put some tomato on that bit and you put some tuna and you put a bunch of slices of a sharp cheddar and you cook that come on man well the problem is you you've surrounded the meal with so many cool adjectives yeah uh and made it Sumptuous that we forgot at the heart of it is a dead fish killed it sea and canned at Sea dude with relatives looking up going like there's hell hell on a boat I don't know what kind of you're talking about I'm talking about tuna that's a delicious American Sandwich what the truly American this guy was was describing it to me and I was I was seeing it in my mind like a horror film playing out I was seeing it in my mind like that mean obviously the ocean's giant it's gigantic but it's been going on these large scale efforts for so long that it's just Cho chop chopping away at

53:13the number of fish and he was really scared of it he was really scared of it he was like I just don't know how much longer it's going to last so there could be an end to fish in our lifetime well there's a lot lot of speculation that by 2050 we literally would have killed like most of the fish in the sea if we continue escalating the way we have from you know 1960 to 2016 population now 7 billion we're let's just assume it's going to double you know by 2050 I mean I don't know what the number is what's the projected population by 2050 I got to imagine it's double you asked the most interesting questions random is weird I always ask people like who is that guy who played that wizard once I asked that too and you're like what's the population going to be by the year 2050 it's like you're making big decisions now almost 10 billion so I was I was F thean for that right 11 billion by 2100 oh

54:12Jesus 9.7 billion in 2050 yeah there's not enough fish there's no way does it go to soilent green it be like uh we got to start consuming the dead well they have a method now apparently where they can make petri dish you know like stem cell created meat I don't know how the they do it I have zero understanding of the process but I know that they they did it a long time ago and it was so expensive that they did it like one cheeseburger would have cost like a quar million dollars like so expensive to produce but it was more of like sort of a test subject like okay now we know that we could do this let's make the process more efficient let's figure out how to large that cost down people million a lot but if they can do that they can literally grow meat with no body there won't be a body attached to the meat it would just be meat I don't understand how it works so I don't

55:05understand like what do you fuel that meat with like how does it grow like what is it eating while it's growing it has to take something in in order to get larger it's not just pulling air out and getting bigger so what are you feeding in how's that work and is that ethical and what you know can we watch yeah can we watch can animate can it suck my dick how far can you take this how warm is it yeah there's a lot of questions that we we would want to ask but I mean that's some Westworld I mean there there if you can make a leg of a cow you can make a leg of a person you could just do it it just takes some time I know a guy with a metal femur he has an artificial femur he got bone cancer okay yeah and so one of his legs is a is like a like a metal rod that goes down to his knee like they replaced his femur with a bone with this a metal bone like they can start doing that to

55:57the whole body which means if you can make some sort of a nervous system you're like halfway to a person you can make meat and you can make artificial bones you make an artificial skeleton you cover it with meat you've got a Westworld thing going on here it's true they make hearts now well they have they showed you the Westworld characters underneath their skin it's all robotics what you're talking about as an organic form of yeah I think the westw world thing is a little off on how it's going to go down I think it's probably going to go down but this HBO show got it wrong I think they're bullshitting us okay I think it's a part of the elite strategy they found they figured out a way to make a human heart in a Petri dish a beating human heart with stem cells really yeah see if you can find this Associated at all it's insane to the Russian scientist or the German

56:47scientist the ones who used to cut off Dog heads and oh sure today this a stem cell gun that helps burn victims rep or re heal Burns and days it says I've seen that I've seen that it's insane it sprays stem cells like a little mister and those stem cells cling to the tissue especially like when they're recently injured and it heals up super quick holy crap it's crazy dude I mean that was one of the most devastating injuries a person can get because it's a giant organ like a big burn like that is devastating 90es that's insane permanent results within days as the stem cells regenerate the skin leaving no scars a man now if you're giving your own stem cells nobody can get all shitty about that right well the stem cells that they're using now they can get them from women when they have cesarian sections they take it out of the placenta I've had it shot into my shoulder I had a shoulder

57:45injury I had it shot into my shoulder and dude you heal like Wolverine it's the craziest thing ever I was like that close to getting shoulder surgery I had this real issue with my shoulder like probably I had probably dislocated it at some point in time and I didn't know and then just years of doing jiujitsu and lifting weights and fighting out of arm bars and it was just like always bothering me so I go to to a doctor I get an MRI and he says man he goes you got a tear here you got a tear here you got a tear in your L room you got a tear in your biceps tendon like you know you might need surgery like see how how long you can go now just do a little rehab and you know you know and if it gets to a point where it's unmanageable then you go go under the knife so I go and and it's it's always annoying me like it was always gnawing at me and then I go and get

58:35these shots in my shoulder and like three weeks later I'm like am I imagining this or does this thing feel great all a SK you skipped over the big step how do you get to the shots in the shoulder was the doctor like you try this the UFC doctor the UFC Doctor Who had had um dror Davidson had um shoulder surgery and after his shoulder surgery he was in still in pain months months later and uh he went and got these stem cell shots and he said within weeks his shoulder felt amazing like it was crazy so who tells him about that like how he's a doctor you know so he's just up on the latest in the doctor Community they're like yeah these are stem cells aren't get you get you yelled at a lot of pro athletes are doing it um and they're doing it to from their body or no you can there's there's a bunch of different ways to do it you could get it from your own fat they suck your fat out

59:21they do a lipo on you oh my God I'll live forever if that's case keep sucking it out and you go intervenous with the stem cells sucking it out intervenous with the stem cells it's more than that boom say it again do it again um I'm going home that's illegal right now inica stabbing myself a million times that's illegal right now in America but damn bill fat cells no no no to uh to intravenously inject it back into your body has supposed to have some magnificent effect what intravenous stem cell injections into your whole body like intravenous like a drug like heroin they can somehow or another do that with stem cells and you're like I've known two people that have done it boss Ruden and Dan B zerion they're both like holy this was amazing boss said it felt like he had energy coming off his fingers he was like dude he goes like my whole body was like charged like this as

60:07close as we get to superhuman ability but it's with our own St with your own stem cells you can do it with your own stem cells they do that's one method another method that another friend of mine did is they drilled into the bone in his hip and they pulled marrow out and used that marrow Ed the stem cells from his hip marrow arrow and then injected that into his knee and it had a pretty remarkable effect too it's the the opinion is divided over which stem cell therapy is the most effective but one of them that seems to be very effective is one that I did and that's with cerian Section they take a woman who's given birth by cesarian section and if they're young I think they have to be within a certain age limit then they take their placenta and they extract stem cells from the placenta and then they have some sort of a process that I'll never understand and then they

60:56inject the stem cells into the injury itself and your body starts regenerating tissue so that's the difference between this and any other sort of form of therapy is that it actually allows your body to regenerate tissue so things that are torn can actually heal and thicken and strengthen like you're seeing with those burn victims again don't listen to me because I don't know what the I'm talking about I just know how it's been explained to me right but uh it had a pretty profound effect what so if you're if you got nothing wrong with you and you just inject stem cells that's where the dude was like woo yeah well he had something wrong with him though he he was recovering from a pretty serious injury boss rotin was at least but yeah um well one of the things they're finding out is that um with mice they're taking the blood of young mice and they're injecting it in older mice and these

61:49older mice start acting like young mice again and they start literally like going back in age and this is some crazy vampire it really is dude that's very close isn't it it's totally vampire do you know first off the blood of young mice is an excellent it is novel I think we got your next movie bro oh my God what a great the blood of young mice is your next movie it's a great punk rock man it's a great it's a great idea for um like a movie Gone Wrong right I mean yeah well you're talking to the guy mid Tusk yeah I say I can make that work do you know who Elizabeth B is no Elizabeth B is like one of the most infamous serial killers in human history and her gig was she would kill young women and bathe in their blood their blood okay then I did her about her she she was a noble woman and uh where where was she from Slovakia Slovakia what Hungary Hungary and uh she just killed a

62:42ton of pretty girls she would go find these peasant girls and bring them back to her castle and torture them and kill them and cut them up and and all the people that worked with her just horrified by her because she just had like a dungeon of dead women and she would just slaughter them and and bathe in their blood and but because of the fact that she was a noble woman she never even got executed they just put her in house arrest so they locked her in some chamber up in the the top of some castle like some monster by herself till she died how old I don't she was old when she died she you know she didn't die at 30 you know and she but as she that's a real mom question how old yeah it's a good question she was 54 when she died which back then which right now think about it think about everyone you've loved 1610 anyone that ever you ever love that didn't make it to 54 and just realize

63:30that the blood bther who butchered all those women made it to 54 how old was she when they locked her in the hole did the process work blood no no it didn't work because she didn't know what the she was doing she had the right idea I mean in a way like there's the right idea she was the mice before the mice but you don't have to kill people you dumb they just I believe that was the name of the movie they young kids to donate blood that's all you need to do what she did wrong was bathing the blood what are you supposed to do oh I mean what she did wrong she's a serial killer I'm killing but kidding but um her idea was somehow or another that she was going to get younger rejuvenate age and that's like been a theme that people have sort of like repeated over and over again and it makes you wonder maybe we we know some somewhere and the maybe it's just we're

64:18ridiculous you and blood's a liquid and you can contain it and measure it and we just get our heads wrapped around this idea that that's what makes you younger or maybe like we inherently knew that's the source of Aging is the blood and then chased it away during civilization just because like well there's only one way around that the blood of others or maybe it's not something that we knew or didn't knew but it's inherent knowledge like maybe your system sort of like how your body knows when it's thirsty to drink water without anybody even telling you like you just kind of know right there's like certain things that you know you see a snake even if you've never seen one you're going to back up things that you just know it could be highly possible that we have some sort of uh subconscious understanding of some aspects of our body some needs that our body has that we we've never been able

65:08to see it written anywhere because no one's written it down but maybe you kind of know things and maybe somewhere is just yeah maybe somewhere in the back of the the the human DNA we know that's the blood when the blood goes bad your body starts to get old and starts to fall apart but if you pump that young blood back in like aging has to happen eventually right that's the scary thing man because that's the number one thing that people are hoping science can stop is people getting old and dying that's the number one thing you I understand I understand going like uh Hey man um wouldn't it be great if we could do all this without a president but it's tough to be like hey man wouldn't this all be better if we couldn't die like of course I'm not saying it would be better I defin but still like I don't even think it's possible like everything there's everything ages One Direction the road

65:56goes in One Direction you can slow it down and you can make the path comfortable for yourself as comfortable as you can the journey even more so but I don't think you could extend the road forever I mean do you know that certain jellyfish are essentially Immortal explain they live also don't have a head heart lungs but but if we really can regenerate all the tissue in your body in except for trauma except for accidents and some killing you there could be only one it's there's no physical reason why they shouldn't be able to figure out how to stop the agent clock and literally turn it back no physical reason what about the brain both that I mean that is also an organ it age does it time I'm sure there's going to be a real question as to where you know where your memories are actually stored and who are you once they start getting to that rake kwell of storing Consciousness and some

66:50sort of an in a Data Bank you watch Black Mirror oh no I haven't but I heard I have to you got it I watched one episode when they made the politician the pig which is amazing pretty badass amazing episode what the you watched that you were like good enough any show that gives me that Brilliance i' be like oh my God and that was their first episode let me see what the next one is it's not that I'm opposed to it I just just too too busy they did one episode in the second season about they don't they you know they don't Telegraph it up front they're they're it's smart TV they make you work for it but they uh essentially the idea is they take people who are dying and you can download your Consciousness into this like Digital Playground where you look the way you want and it looks like like you know every spring break you've ever seen and stuff and so these two people meet up

67:39and they're both young women and you find out one is an old woman and the other they're both old women but one's been a vegetable since she was like a teenager wow but in this virtual world they can run romp and be free and be whoever they want but it's generally considered uh like uh if you could choose to just die and pass on to whatever you think is out there if there's a heaven or something like that or you could choose to go to the server as they call it and stuff and so the you know the two women who fall for one another uh one is like stay here forever like you know we can be like this forever and the older woman was like I had a life with a husband and and a kid and I watched you know him get old and and die and I he chose not to do this and now I'm going to choose to live forever and and her friend's like where you're going you don't even know where

68:34you're going but what if he's not there said spoiler alert somewhere along that R I did not know where you were going with sorry kid sorry it's deep hoping I can smoke another joint forget this one of many episodes but I got to keep going with this because it's good and we got to talk about the arrival have you seen a Ral no don't spoil that oh my God I can't hav't seen it yet I pre-ordered it on iTunes it's genius let me tell you what I'm not watching anymore is a Walking Dead done I watched one episode of the latest season or the new season I'm like you what the first one yeah you they had to do that everyone's waiting to see what what Negan did man don't be like that is it's our soap opers in this it's a goddamn torture show murder and torture show just that episode it's not with the zombies all of a sudden are totally insignificant kick them away they charge

69:23you you just kick them away they tear open horses with their raw hands but they charge you just kind of like Heisman them there a group of thousands of them surrounding a van and he figures out you you you killed Glenn you killed Glenn like that spoiler alert like that that but they also torture him way everyone was expecting when they did that show you got a high bar Rogan no I don't yeah I do you're like yeah yeah no I don't it's just if you're going to kill a zombie T be consistent it's torture I think the idea was to show as bad as we think the zombies are it's the humans are always going to be worse get I get it you can't kill Glenn is that it that's your big beef I love that guy I know but this show excels it going like hey I'm sorry we got to kill someone you love every once in a while I'm spoiler alerting the out of that show if you're not watching

70:17it pause this I'm done I won't do it anymore can I tell you the end of that other thing no come on dude Jesus Christ you're good it's good you can talk I'll cover my ears my then I'm talking to nobody um the let's talk arrival I want to keep saying the arrival but it's not just arrival well did you ever see the other one with Charlie Sheen the arrival yes yeah that's why I keep want to say the arrival yeah that's an old rst video store flick from when I was renting slinging videos back in the day remember I sling that quite often people come in and be like you got the arrival like yeah Chuck Sheen son I was like super I was like God I feel embarrassed to have liked that and then Dave Foley released me of my embar Dave fo was like that was a really good science fiction movie like yes yeah I always ref is one smart guy you know Dave no I met him once on a

71:05game show but you know I'm a big news radio fan but even going back pre- news radio probably the reason I get to news radio is because I was a massive Kids in the Hall fans so I met Dave twice he only remembers probably the one time on the game show recently the where you the Hollywood Game Night but I met him back in like 95 I went to a Kids in the Hall Show in Kitchener Ontario and then went back backstage after a show and I've never done that before but I was a big fan of my friend was like Oh They'll love it my friend Malcolm he's wonderful guy very much a blow heart he has a podcast called blueart but he's the guy that's just like Batman v Superman's a cinematic abortion you know he's just got opinions and so my man took me to see the kids in the hall and he's like we'll go backstage they'll love it you made clerks this will be amazing and they just

71:48finished an amazing show and we go backstage and you know I don't know how you are after show but I now know how I am after show and generally speaking the show was there and now I just like I just want to grab some milk and drive home or grab mil or something like that um and and instead you know you're not like hey so I met them and they were all like hey you know and not they didn't see cler they know who I was it was early early on in my career but you know they just give it all up on the stage and they're like oh we got to do another mini show and stuff so you know I don't I'm not like what a let down he was the show was amazing you know it's just it's just not like I doubt he'd even remember meeting me but I did meet him on that Hollywood Game Night Show and talked to him for a long time but I'm a deep fan going way back that's awesome man a long answer to a

72:36very short question sorry I don't remember what the question was you like Dave F you meet that guy something like that he's literally one of the smartest people I've ever met in my life arrival let's talk about the new arrival you got to see it you would love it but Dave Foley I want to talk about day I'm go deep on tell you he's a secret producer of uh news radio what do you mean explain is this deep Cuts news radio yeah yeah here we go I'm in listening mode and this is not a knock against the writers because the writers are brilliant Paul Sims the guy who created it another one of the smartest people I've ever met and just completely unique like there's there's a lot of guys that pretend to be that eccentric weirdo writer guy Paul Sims is that he's such an eccentric guy like they didn't start writing until like 3 o'clock in the morning they would hang out play video

73:22games and fart in each other's faces and they they literally didn't start writing until the middle of the night cuz Paul like had a strategy of getting like everybody like really tired and silly and then they would write all night and then a lot of times we would get like the first draft the day of the table read we would get the first draft they would just be coming like Josh Lee would come down Barefoot and he these guys would be up all night and Lou Morton and all these writers and I was like you guys are crazy like you didn't even sleep like this he goes like no we've been riding all night this is uh This is how we do it and they were just silly cuz they were they were almost without doing drugs they were getting high by keeping cuz I for as far as inh inhibition the the longer they're up the more they're like anything goes and and as you're sitting there if you're

74:08wellfed or you're you know in the middle of the day perhaps you're less uh apt or less less likely to be like hey I got a stupid idea CU you don't want someone in the room to be like that's not funny wants to get judged so for me I smoke weed not because it gives you better ideas but because it's you know it lowers your inhibitions where you're like I don't give a if people think it's stupid I'm going to try it and if that don't work I'll try some I'll say another thing well you can express yourself more honestly you feel Freer to express yourself more honest must be the same idea keeping people up and then just getting them tired and then be like now right it's a strategy it really is a very good strategy very very specific it very was very silly it was a silly show and that's one of the reasons why I think there's a lot of silliness going on but which is a strong suit when you

74:59can't when you don't have the card to play of like let's say or or like you can't even do the basic cards so you're like what do you replace those cards in the deck with and that show replaced it with like oh we're going to have the we're goingon to up the silly quotient in a way that doesn't look like other sitcom's silly like their silly was Bill getting a cane yeah where it's like that's a real silly episode they built a whole episode around him walking everybody loves a cane like that's not that's not the saying Bill no it was a very very silly don't be like your last name's gelli like just repeating that for four five years that was like a every time it happens they're like your last name's gelli I was like that's genius that show was a we it was it was a very weird show in a lot of ways um like Paul was a he's such a unique guy that he would essentially let anybody come up

75:49with another line if like they were doing a table read or uh not a table read rather but a um run through if you would get a hold of the script Dave would come up with an alterior line an alternative line and like right away the show was in trouble like cuz like the first year that we were filming like it wasn't really doing very well in the ratings and they couldn't figure out how the show now I bet you that number would be well it weird we moved like nine times in in five five years but um there was this um or four years whatever we did and it was this um moment when they were they were just trying to figure it out constantly it was a lot of work and they would all get together and try to rewrite scenes but Dave Foley would rewrite scenes like on the floor and as the show kept going it became more and more of a thing like we he was like a secret producer like but not that it was

76:44a secret because the the writers were so open-minded that they just wanted to see the best joke he's the best kind of actor though he's the actor that you love because he's a writer as well so he comes to set and he's not just doing your script he can give you five other scripts just as funny if you want them and if he's like the good ones he's not jamming my shit's better than yours down your throat he's like if there's an opening gracefully it goes in but that in the beginning of my career I used to reject people that were like that because I'm like no if it's not my writing then what is it and then the older you get the more comfortable you getting you realize dude you're going to get credit regardless like go ahead like I remember for me it was Chris Rock there was a moment in Dogma um Chris Rock there's a line in the script line in the movie where uh you

77:32know he falls out of Heaven he's Rufus the 13th Apostle and they're having this conversation in the middle of the road him and Linda fantino playing Bethany Jane Sil bobber there and uh he references knowing Jesus and she's like Christ you knew Christ and he goes no I'm and he used the NW he goes oh owes me 12 bucks owes me 12 bucks now I didn't write that line I wrote Dogma every piece of it but I didn't write that line I would never put that line in front of Chris Rock and be like look what I did my line was no he owes me 12 bucks Chris was able to dress it up in such a way and I told him I was like oh God because I crying when he did it I was like that's hysterical but I was bittersweet about it because I was like I can't include it and I said to him I was like dude that's the funniest thing I think I've ever put on film and I can't use it in the movie he goes why

78:20and I was like because I didn't write it how am I supposed to do the credits now written by Kevin Smith and one by Chris Rock he goes I don't give a don't you know how this works he's going you'll get credit for it he's going if it it's funny take it I don't need credit for that I say a lot of and I was like oh oh really and then the next guy I worked with was like that was uh Will Ferrell on J and Bob stri that's almost an alien idea that you would not accept a really funny addition because know how to do the job dude cuz I was so came through indie film and so I didn't come up through the world of Comedy I backed ort into the world of Comedy but I came up through indie film and indie film was like Hey man a tour you write and direct your stuff it's your statement and stuff and I since nobody taught you there's nobody to teach you this there's no book you have your

79:06own process where you're like well you know I guess to be pure it should all be my stuff that way when I see it say written by Kevin Smith it's not a lie just like I was raised Catholic so for the longest time like I you know I thought I was a virgin until I was about 17 really I lost my virginity at 13 like I was inside a girl at age 13 she was also the same age so it's not creepy although it's creepy to talk about now but never I never came and in Catholic school there's no class where they're like you know sex is penetration they don't tell you so you know I was like well you you make rules for yourself and you just buy them as those are the rules so for years I was like well I you know I never came inside a girl so I've not had sex yet and then when I finally had sex I was like oh I guess penetration counts and hence I had sex a long time ago it was a problem for a minute with my

80:03current girlfriend then she's like you said you were a virgin I was like I thought I was a virgin but she was like you bet inside somebody I was like yeah but I didn't come isn't that the like if you don't come it don't count and she's like where'd you get that be super impressive anytime a 13-year-old doesn't come should be super impressive you know like how do you not just fear you got the the Catholic fear of not like oh she'll have a baby but the very Catholic fear I can't believe I'm sinning not even that like oh you she may have to get an abortion and then you're killing no Catholics I don't think I think any faith you know you can sin you know especially with Catholicism they had to buil in get out of jail free card like you can do what you need to but you come in church you tell the strange man your dirty little secrets in a booth with no lights and you leave and everything's

80:47going to be fine with Jesus and it made sense all throughout my childhood I was like yeah it makes sense um all right so wait where were we uh before we got into that I don't know we don't have to be anywhere man I know but I like we were on a good thread man like we were talking about you it is what you think it is like you build the rules for yourself so I said to myself if if I include Chris Chris Rock's amazing adlib in my movie than I've taken from another writer and hence it can't say written by it's understand abely in my head I understand why you would think that he got that out of me it didn't make sense to me just because I was really lucky in the the the only real comedy that I did that lasted any you know uh was was news radio and it was a crazy environment like that where it was based on you though right like Joe gelli the character was very Loosely based on me

81:39it was ESS your standup and said do that on the show no Paul was just like really good at picking out the goofy that you do and like exaggerating it CU I was always into stupid UFO stories so it would always like be some conspir y Theory or some Gadget cuz I've always been a dork you know when it comes to like technology I'm fascinated by all all sorts of gadgets and but I don't I'm it like an flashing on moments where you were like you see this and it's just a card and you're like uh it's from the elevator but I don't know which one was like during Ray's period and stuff there Mo all the girly moments are washing over me as you say that I probably don't even remember them but um I bet you I know more about that show than you if you and I went head-to-head news radio radio trivia I bet you I bet you would too like Andy Dick was a perfect example Andy Dick is a super exaggerated version

82:30of Andy Dick of Andy Dick that's what his character was Matthew Matthew was just a super exaggerated version of Andy Dick but like in ways you like Andy almost sometimes at its craziest was like more of an exaggeration but in a totally different way you know when he was partying getting crazy but that the silliness of that character was really just Andy Dick can see you I can see that because uh Matthew takes off like he's funny but he becomes the Matthew that he is for the rest of the show right about six episodes four to six episodes in right like you slowly see him start to become the Matthew that you when when you think of news radio oh yeah Matthew um so it feels like same thing with you well you weren't even the first guy right pilot they had a different guy and then you come in was he the guy yeah Ray Romano he was the you no he was the guy before me this

83:25is what happened Ray Romano was casting it originally and then I guess while they were shooting the pilot they decided to go a different direction right I don't know what that means so they brought in another guy and that guy did it and then after the pilot they said we want to replace that guy and so then they had this open casting call thing and then I got involved in that and what had you been doing at that point stand up I was thinking about moving back to New York and thinking I should have got shouldn't have got a apartment in la oh my God classic story it's like you got it just at the right time I came out here for a show called hard ball was a show by this guy um Jeff Martin and Kevin Curran these two guys who wrote for Married with Children And they also wrote for I think they wrote for The Simpsons uh and they wrote for a lot of they were really funny guys names I recognize

84:09they they came up with a great pilot me and Jim Brewer and a bunch of other great guys were in it and then Fox got a hold of it and just sort of fisted it and just came in its eyeballs and just Twisted it all around turns into like a really hacky just a really hacky version of what it once was and then eventually got cancelled so I thought being a young dumb guy that I was I thought oh this this show is definitely going to be a hit I should get an apartment I'm going to live out here I might as well get a year lease you know um everything's going great and then all a sudden the show gets canceled I'm like what am I doing out here like I don't have any friends out here hardly know anybody my friends were all back home and I was like gosh she just moved back to New York and then um I got a development deal it's like NBC got in touch my management and and they asked me if I

84:56wanted to do my own show or if I wanted to do this show that they have already um this show called news radio so I got to watch the pilot before uh I had no idea what it was like before anybody ever saw it I got a VHS tape of the pilot before it ever aired on TV and so I got to watch that and then uh I audition for it so it was a big advantage and that like I kind of understood like the style the rhythm of the show that they did but it was really interesting was with what he did was the first um the first audition wasn't funny necessarily it was just a scene and I was like this is weird like cuz the pilot was really funny but this seems like they did it on purpose to see if people would ham it up like they they didn't want anybody who wasn't playing it real and so they weeded people out by making something that wasn't really that funny right how crazy is that

85:46kind of nuts and then the second time I come back and it's hilarious the second time the banter is just genius and I'm like oh these ever like I see what they did they just whittel it down for people who down to people who could play it straight that's that's I mean I'm not saying Insidious in a negative way but that's ingenious maybe is the word I'm looking for instead of Insidious that's like I don't think like that I'm just like like I remember we cast clerks I still cast the same way when we cast clerks we had a um First Avenue Playhouse was a little theater dinner theater in Atlantic Highlands in New Jersey and so we put an out like I I think in the free paper and I hung up ads any place where like college kids congregated and stuff mamath college at the time now it's mouth University so we had this open casting call and you know as we're as people are coming through

86:41we're seeing people do things that like were blowing us out of the water I had no experience Marilyn gigliotti the girl that plays Veronica in the movie she got cast because she like cried during the audition and I remember like looking at my friends going like who could do this who could just like cry like this and none of them auditioned with comedy like Brian ohand who played Dante auditioned with a piece from like Don't Be Afraid of the Dark no not Don't Be Afraid of the Dark oh yeah maybe don't be afraid this the one where Alan Arin is like uh stalking Audrey heer and she's blind and he's like robbing the place alone in the dark maybe that's what but it's a real like killer monologue that's nothing like his character so we were like this guy's he can act if he can act like that he could say I'm not even supposed to be here today and stuff like that so yeah I I could

87:31see that was my process just I'm blown away I'm easily impressed like so people come through I'm like you cried like oh my God you're the greatest actress I ever saw in my life or you know you're crazy right you're just a crazy person who could pretend that something's real when it's not no doubt God damn it that's part of the problem isn't it it's ability man isn't that a part of the problem have that ability you have to be a little cucko I don't know Genesis guys who was an actress in a couple movies I did she she came from telen Nolla so she the Spanish no no so uh you know we were she did a scene in Tusk and she was crying I was like that was amazing man like that's crazy like you it's like you orchestrated a tier for the right line it just rolled and hit at the right time wow and she's going yeah she's going on tell Nolla and you got to know how to cry like crazy

88:21like every episode somebody crying and stuff and she also also described the process she was like you know well first she was like here like just give me a sec say something funny and so Jason Muse was there and Jason Muse started telling her this funny story and she just starts balling and laughing while she's balling but like literally looks like she's crying I was like that's up and and she said you have to do that on Tel Nolla while somebody is on an in an earwig in your ear reading you the dialogue you're about to say h they they get scripts this thick thck is a dick mhm so they can't learn all that dialogue and they shoot like 20 30 pages a day so they stick bugs in their ears oh my God a little a little receiver and essentially the director's in control room and you know they shoot it like a soap oper there's multiple cameras but they are giving them the lines and they

89:12are saying it simultaneously and I was like how do you do that how's your brain work like that and she goes say anything to me give me a nice long sentence and so I went for the sentence the English language has all the letters in it the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dogs and as I got to Quick she it's true she uh she started following me and finished at the exact same time like it was it was pretty impressive um she doesn't seem crazy by a stretch of the imagination I asked her I was like how can you do that she's like I don't know it's just a family thing she's like my dad family thing she said her dad her dad's a big performer singer she said my dad can make his hair stand up on his arm and get goosebumps just by looking at it whoa and it's like wow that's I mean what a what a weird super power to have but like cool well there are definitely things that PE weird

90:04things like that where people inherit them from their parents like I used to date a girl who couldn't even see a needle in a movie she would faint like if she saw someone getting a shot in a movie she would F I get squeamish but she was like and her dad who I believe was a dentist so like you would think the guy saw a lot of needles thank that guy would do the same thing like he if if he saw something bad he would faint so even though he normally saw needle he probably stuck needles into gums and like that in his job he was a dentist yeah yeah so he in his day job he's doing and then watching trauma on TV well she was telling me that uh her um her brother had like a real severe sunburn to the point where like blisters you know like where it's like whoa like you really this up that reminds me child and he saw it and he fainted and they were like what the hell like he couldn't help

90:54it it just he was so you know you love your son Budd if it's not mouth you don't like you react like that it's like you know sunburn it's bad well it's a weird I I don't think it's his fault that's what I'm saying I don't think it's yeah man there's like something in the system there's something bizarre in the system I react when people tell stories when they're just like you know and then I tour this I always do that and the idea of I'm not I'm low tolerance for threshold for pain myself and and like hearing people tell stories about injuries I you know I react yeah well everybody does right like you watch those video I watch some poor guy oh my God who let this guy do this this guy who is like ridiculously overweight and they set a s a skateboard up on a ramp like balancing it on this did you see that nuts oh my God it's awful it's awful but you when you watch someone like that

91:49where you know they're going to get hurt and then when they get get hurt and it's really bad you know that feeling that you get like a sharpness like almost like a sharpness in your cells where your whole body's like Jesus sometimes a great Heights I get that if I look over inside of a building I'm like Jesus F you get that sharp yeah it runs right through you like move back it's almost like the adrenaline becomes like like stalagmites coming off of a ceiling just they say that that is built in even babies have that they did a test with babies where they had a long table like this and then in the middle here instead of it being wood that had plexiglass and it was clear so they had the mother at one end of the table and the baby at the other and she was like come on the baby would crawl but as soon as the baby got to the clear part which is still a table right went

92:34back and would not go forward good that's built into us for some reason good someone posted someone posted a picture that closes that thought good somebody posted a picture today from uh a playground in the 1920s and I don't know if it was real I I because I I really probably shouldn't be talking about it but if it is real like Jesus Christ These Bars were like 50 feet off the ground these kids are just climbing ladders and these metal ladders I mean the the way the setup looked like today there's not a chance in hell you would let your kids play on this thing you would freak the out like look at this look at this goddamn thing look at this how many kids got hurt before they were like you maybe we kid died every day we should bring it in I know look at that height dude dude they're dead CU even if it's all sand you're still hitting something hard they

93:28didn't care they didn't want you to live look at they all riding bikes back then no cars what year is this early 19 wait a minute go back is that a body is that a one falling from the sky that's not real is it or that hanging from something it's a swing look at that swing that swing is 15t off the ground it looks like a body though doesn't it if you don't look at the lines like the lines are like those falling marks in a cartoon he's just hanging hanging off a swing kids are playing it's a crazy picture though isn't it yeah that's nuts look at that yeah things were a lot more dangerous in our day and that's even before our day yeah that's before our day you're from Back East you know action park no I was just going to say I broke my arm on one of those things did you really yeah when I was a little kid I fell off the uh monkey bars sna my arm and posted on it

94:13snapped it and so you got your your first cast at what age I think I was six do you have people sign it do you have a lot of friends I believe I had people sign it many was it like's no room sor sorry I don't remember or was it a lot of like love you Mom great Wednesday mostly that yeah mostly that um but those things are dangerous as it's concrete on the bottom of it in New Jersey there's a theme park it's closed now um all growing up man we'd go there they would do like a water slide that you know people got hurt on they would do these things they it was before insurance I guess where you know they had a wave pool um so a wave pool is big pool and then like they've got these giant beaters in the underwater at the end that are huge that just constantly make waves and people would get crushed under them and get killed they had this like slalom race uh thing where you kind of

95:12sitting on this cement track who there you go New Jersey's Action Park offered fun and injury for the whole family Jesus Christ that was a water slide look at that water slide you were completely in a blue tube that went down a mountain it did a a loop in the dark where a lot of people were getting hurt like they didn't make the full loop they just got jammed and then people CED into you bang bang bang Bang there were a lot of injuries couple deaths oh my God a couple deaths but that was that was fun when we were kids you know you didn't want to get hurt but like nobody told you you might get hurt that badly some things were sensible like I was a child if I saw monkey bars that high I'm I'm number one I didn't go near the monkey bars but if I I saw him that high I'd be like this is ridiculous like this is clearly clearly we're being filmed or something yeah right i''d be like this

96:01is a setup this was built by somebody who doesn't know what a child looks like yeah or hates them wants to tricked them into going high so they can fall and die they're like look the more blood I get young child blood to bathe in the younger one can look they subscribe to the theory of what's her but that was a real concern back then about Mouse defeat I mean we're talking about the depression so you think they built the playgrounds like that so weed out the week real no way weed out the week well then you have to agree that we live in a better time because nobody ran on that platform in the election of like hey man Only the Strong Survive so you know if your kid goes to the playground falls off the the muggy bars that's on you well um we certainly are more protective of our children today and we understand child rearing and understand mortality and we understand uh like the the bad

96:50things that you can do to your kid where you're developing them but it's a it's a weird Catch 22 and you'll probably agree with me as a parent how many kids you got three you know a lot more than me I got one but go ahead but but I was just going to say is like there's a weird Catch 22 in that you want to give them all the love in the world you want to support them as much as you can you want to be there 100% for them but you also realize that everyone you know that's interesting had overcome some bizarre childhood they had to overcome some crazy ad all my favorite people like all my favorite people tell me Terror stories about like growing up and what their parents did or what their dad did or like holy so many people especially the comedians that I know was all just like oh and then what happened oh dude and they're the they're the funniest people they're the kids that aren't uh well I

97:48know I look I'm a helicopter parent and I know I'm the guy that like paves the way for his kid she wants to I'm like oh let's make a movie you don't really you know that's not normal but you know what man the only thing that's wrong with that this is the only thing that's wrong with that and this is where we have a problem uh human beings the only thing that's wrong with that is the idea that she's not going to have to start making a living on her own she's going to be able to carry forth under her dad's momentum but the only reason why that's a problem even remotely is because we have this absurd idea that it should be super important for you to take care of yourself that it should be super important for you to financially carry yourself you know I explain explain I've been with this idea more and more lately that's what I love about you you with ideas this my my buddy

98:36Eddie Wong who's a chef and a really interesting cool guy was on the podcast okay and uh Eddie was talking about Universal basic income and at first I thought what you're gonna you're going to give people free money get the out of here that's so stupid dude you can't do that and then the more I thought about it the more I said well it seems like when you give people money like it kills their motivation for a lot of folks but what if that's just like your needs are covered like is that really true that if you give people something and you give them security that it takes away their creativity or is this just I mean the only we don't know because everybody's always been in need they overcame that need and then they became successful right that's the story that we hear over and over again but what if it what if all your needs were taken care of like food shelter

99:26like you have basic stuff you know you're not going to get rich but you have enough to eat and you always have a roof over your head we just first of all wouldn't we like like each other more if that was the case if we didn't have to worry if nobody had a worry about how much money they had nobody had to worry about not being able to eat nobody worried about not having a place to sleep that sounds utopian right but that's almost doable financially if you look at the amount of money we have versus the amount of people we have versus how much money people make it's like o it's kind of close like we'd have to restructure a lot of but it seems like they might be able to give every person $122,000 a year something like that right and I think if we could figure out some sort of a way to do things like that I think we would have a giant alleviation of tension and

100:19struggle at its like base level survival like to elev at us as a as a people just above the survival thing right so then we can relax more and get better at all this other but we got to get past the survival thing and the base of the survival is what ba basic food basic shelter uh you having having a roof over your head and having food if you could just guarantee that if we could all collectively say let's figure out let's pile all this money together let's figure out how we can make this better what's number one we gotta we we got to figure out a way to make it easier to figure out what the you want to do with your life you don't you shouldn't have to just dive into some job and be desperate I mean we were talking today Jamie about people that we know that you know that maybe wanted to do something else but they played it safe and now they're kind of stuck in

101:11this weird place where they can't get out of playing it safe because they have bills and they get trapped I feel like if we had some sort of like Universal basic income it's totally possible that way less people would do that and then more people would try to make Independent films or more people would try to become standup Comics or more people would try to write books or more people would try to build cars or do whatever the they're compelled to do how did you do it without getting 12,000 free dollars a year I got lucky I I worked well made you didn't you didn't like wait for it to show up and at your door you actually went out into the world and had to you had to move some elements around in reality to make a new reality yeah I I guess man but I mean consider yourself an exceptional I consider yourself an exceptional human being now did you consider yourself an

102:03exceptional human being then I knew I was good at taekwan doe that was about it so you had a skill I was good at one thing I knew I was good at one thing I was like God damn it if I can get good at that it's totally possible I can get good at life right smart smart way to look at it at the very least you're Hired Hand walking through the countryside taking care of people problems with your bare fists and no well I wasn't really taking care of any I was competing but if you had to if Society collapsed and they have any competitions I'd already realized I could get my ass kicked too easy by a wrestler or by uh a good boxer I was having problems already I'm sparring problems but you you built you built a a world and I'm not saying like I like your idea but at the same time it's like not anybody could do exactly what you did but anybody could take the steps

102:51that you did well I'm just I'm I'm not saying that this this world that we live in right now doesn't offer opportunity this world we live in offers ample opportunity that's not what I'm saying I'm not saying Grand a year I really feel like it's possible that we're doing it wrong I just think collectively and then I've said this before so if you heard me say it before uh anybody listening I apologize but I always say that if we looked at ourselves as an organism right if we looked at society as an organism what would we what would we want to fix as an organism would we want to make the muscle stronger or would we want to kill the cancer would we want to figure out what's wrong with it would we want to cure the disease well the disease has got to be poverty like it's the number one problem that we have is crime and poverty like we've got to focus on that area of our our world

103:39and instead of thinking of as oh they should pull themselves up by their bootstraps or oh they need the you know realize there's opportunity out there you just got to go get it everybody's got their own path I think collectively as a like a just a human species we have to look at the world's problems like the world's like real deep poverty and social problems and look at it almost like as if we are a living creature if we're a living creature and there's parts of us that are starving to death you got to get that part food right I mean that's Universal that's why those commercials with Sally Fields Sally Struthers Sally Struthers were so compelling right because you would see those babies that didn't have any food who's hungry and I've got so much you're like holy these are I feel like we only have a certain amount of time you know just as a as an organism that

104:27has a finite lifespan you have like a hundred years if you're lucky you know and this thing that we're doing now where we have a president you know and you you have to go out there and earn your keep boy and you know you get a job and well looks like you're going to have to get married now you're a dad okay and then you just you're like all of a sudden I'm dying right like I was living I worked in a factory now I'm dying right I don't know if that's the right way to make the most productive Society or the most enjoyable experience for the people that are living in the societ it feels like a little more uh Joy damn I'm high a little bit a little I feel like a little more joy would would uh the American Experience would benefit from a little more joy there's so much toil and as you said there's so much you could do anything here but you got to do it and we spend so much time chasing uh

105:21something that makes life easy easier I'm not going to argue that money makes things easier to do um but chasing you know the idea of prosperity in One Direction as opposed to spiritual Prosperity not saying religion saying prosperity of one's soul growing as a person something that doesn't have to stop just because now you've entered the workplace now you're married and now you're falling into place with the model for for society like you know there's still a space in there for well it and I think maybe this is where I'm coming around to your free $112,000 a year it's not my idea by any stru idea free1 122,000 a year because maybe it does leave a little breathing space where suddenly in that space somebody's like oh I want to do this and this would make me happy and when I'm happy at this it'll trickle down at work like so many people are like I go from one job to

106:12this job and you know and then I get the weekends maybe and my weekends are Tuesday and Thursday or something like that so yeah you're right I was thinking like I even I got Privileges and and breaks that a lot of people wouldn't get and I came from like poor white people but it didn't matter it was white people and so there are breaks for me out there somewhere in the world and I always think through that prism but you're right man there are a lot of people out there that would benefit from like here's a cushion here's something to start with where you go from there and and what is that for it's $1,000 a month just for being an American yeah I mean instead of like thinking oh you know everybody's scamming to try to get welfare money how about just give it to them yeah how just give them enough to survive just give everybody enough to survive and then let's work the out

106:59and then when you make more than x amount of year you can you know if you're like Kevin Smith or me you know you would say look I don't want my 12 Grand put it back into the system exactly pay all your taxes all that stuff but this would make us feel like we're looking out for each other a little bit I mean it's not I'm not I I'm not fully formed on this idea it's is something I'm battering around in my head but I'm battering it around in my head the same way I'm battering around this idea that there shouldn't really be a president like it's just it's only there because we've been doing it this way for 300 years but if it didn't exist there's no way that's how you would run it there's no way we would all agree well what we should do is we should get one person who knows the most people with the most money who have been doing this the longest and that person will

107:44have a giant advantage over everybody else and get that person backed up by these huge corporations that would benefit by this person being in office because you would make laws and make Environ enal rules a little bit LAX so we can get away with some and we can make more money there's no way we would say yeah let's do it that way there's no way we would say no we want the Geniuses of the world we want the the the professors the the the the the Elon musks we want the the Bill Gates the people that are very wise and very intelligent and very rational you want to talk to Giant groups of them and we want to form our own opinions and we should all be voting collectively as a group there shouldn't be some representative government some electoral College what are you going to wear a powdered wig too you you're going to ride around on a horse with some homemade horseshoes with your

108:30powdered wig in your Electoral College you going to read it on a scroll in the Town Square standing on an Apple box off that is old see you make me feel bad dude cuz I get high and I'm like let me let me write a movie about a guy who turns a guy into a walrus you get high and you want to change the world you're a dreamer dreamer of a day man sometimes sometimes not at all sometimes I just want to go watch that Hawaiian movie Moana it's a good movie was good it's good let me ask you let me ask you about archery which you seem to have fallen in love with yes I love our how hard is it to pull back a bow and arrow it's not easy but they make bows for people as like little kids like a compound bow that's just like it goes back with and it depends entirely on what you're trying to do if you want to shoot a Target they make bows that a little kid like my little

109:18kids were shooting bows like when my daughter was three I got her a bow and arrow that she could kind of pull back I kind of help her I would have to hold on to it and she could pull it back and then I'd go we're ready to go in one two three and she'd let it go so you can have a can we do that later before sure that's the way I would need to be handled but then for a compound bow you have two two possibilities that you're using it for one which is target archery which is what I do more than anything I I shoot targets just in my yard and with friends and I'll go to some ranges and there's a place in Vegas I go to that's really cool um and doing that is like you don't need that much power because it's just about figuring out where the arrows going to go and being accurate about it but then when you get to if you wanted to hunt an animal with it then you you have a certain obligation to

110:06make sure that your bow is at least a certain amount has a certain amount of power to it and most people agree that's somewhere around 45 or 50 pounds it's it's it's debatable but in Texas I know they like I think they fought back a law because they were trying to keep kids from bow hunting and unless they could pull back I think it was 35 LBS or 45 lbs I forget what the weight was so there's a measure of strength in order to do something they don't even do that for driving well the only you got to be strong enough to drive like that it's cuz it's not ethical because you really almost have don't have enough kinetic energy to actually penetrate an animal and kill it so you would be something and they be like The Arrow would stick out of them you know and it does happen you so you have a certain amount of requirement of like the kinetic energy where it's ethical to bow hunt I

110:53remember trying my uh father-in-law my wife's uh stepdad Byron great guy um he was a a bow and arrow Enthusiast I wouldn't call him a bow hunter because he didn't go out and like hunt anything but he was good at it he won medals and like that oh wow so um I was riding Green Arrow at the time and I was like you know what man I should if I'm going to write he shoot he knocks and fires an you should knocking an arrow just so maybe maybe there's something there about like you can describe it rather than make it up and he took me into the backyard with a bow and arrow and a Target big hay Target with thing on it and no compound or anything just a long bow and you know I'm like God this is going to be easy green arrow knocks like six of these at a time and I knocked one arrow and went to pull back and like the shake began in my arm pretty quickly I didn't get very far back for I was like holy

111:53probably serious bow huh pretty serious bow but you know it number one I was like I'm not the man I thought I was and I didn't think I was much of a man to begin with but number two I was just like um I don't think anyone would ever choose this to fight crime you know ridiculous oh my God one of those things where you know you confront as much as I love this love comic books and whatnot that was the moment where I was like this falls apart like you always find yourself defending the notion of a Batman to people like come on dude if you had all the money and you lost your parents you had all the time to commit to your body turning into a weapon you could be Batman there could be no Superman he he comes from space but there could be a Batman and then all you have to do is try pulling back a bow and arrow once and you realize like well there couldn't be a

112:40green arrow no and he's got it easier than a Batman yeah so if he if that can't exist then this probably can't exist although like we were talking about an episode of smodcast the other day could could you like I I saw a video they did on pen and Teller pen and Teller were doing it where somebody shot a bullet at a samurai sword mhm and you know they had it calibrated so it was hitting directly into the middle of the blade M and it split the bullet in two and then the idea was like could a butter knife do the same thing and of course the butter knife did the same thing it split the bullet so it didn't matter if it was a hammered a thousand times Razor's Edge Samurai sort of a butter knife that bullet hitting that Target split so we were talking about the podcast I was like well that to me I said that to me is proof now that you could fight crime with a katanos swur I like you

113:33have to be super fast I said to Scott like and Scott's like yeah Scott's making fun of me because he's gone cuz I said I'm not saying you have to be Batman he's like and then I am saying you do have to be Batman but I'm saying like if you were the guy held a sword and somebody fired a bullet and it's split with the kickback of the bullet throw the sword in into you or you know like very well could this thing was a concrete block was holding the samurai sword so you know we talked about in the podcast then God bless the internet somebody sent us a link of some other show where they had a guy holding a sword like Samurai mhm swordsman like modern day swordsman and cuts a baseball in half no a metal BB pellet dude D it was nuts now the other thing I watched it was like you know they they had the gun calibrated on a hinge and a laser scope so that it would hit exactly what they

114:26were going for this guy hand eyed it man feel that this is from the 1500s that's a legit samurai sword feel how heavy that is like I'm thank God I didn't live back then that's that's a legit samurai sword from the 1500s the real deal oh yeah it's sharp careful don't do it now this guy pulled one of these and he was like this ready yeah and then the guy fired the gun and he went Swip through the air and so you know then they roll back the footage and God damn it if he didn't split that thing and dude like again died you sure it's not CGI are you no this was real you got to look it up SN this um no I haven't I can't live in a constant world of snow we must we must no cuz what think about our childhoods when we were kids someone would be like The Lochness moner be like yeah it's real oh dude if you could have snoped that you got no imagination in your childhood this look at this guy

115:26okay that was it right and now they play it back he just whipped it out and cut now wait until they play it back this a scam first of all the guy's Japanese guy looks like he's boing this guy and his girl doesn't it like leaning over his shoulder like hey bro he's about to earn it I'd this guy watch watch this here it comes fing yo I see CGI it was all red up there see all that red stuff that was real see this is CGI bro we know for sure it's CGI there it is there it is there it is they removed the Rings and now they'll pick it up that's real that's got to be real right look they talked to Dr ramani she's hot right and she got to be smart they got her there in the desert check out the one where the guy cuts the softball in half or a baseball rather it's one of those baseball machines where it pitches not saying I could do it but like that dude hit a BB man I

116:18just don't believe that's real you don't think so think being hoaxed come on man like were you the kid that didn't bigot when you were a kid are you kidding me I lived for bigfoot I went looking for bigfoot for a TV show I spent a week looking for bigfoot so if you can believe in Bigfoot why can't you believe in that I can't believe in Bigfoot cuz I spent a week for I had a bit in my ACT I was doing you know what you don't find when you go looking for bigfoot black people you're more likely to find Bigfoot than you are black people outlooking for bigfoot like what you find is unfuckable white dudes camping just wander through the woods trying to work out whatever's in their head very little of it is about Bigfoot if you gave everybody $122,000 a lot more people would go looking for bigfoot maybe they'd find him maybe they should at least find something you got find

117:01about you you're like you know what dude you have thought this through 12K a year could find Bigfoot you know when I knew that uh but not I I always had a feeling that there it was probably horseshit but when I Yeti too does that cover Yeti and abominable snowman they used to be an animal called the gigantopithecus that's what a lot of this is based on the gigano lived as recently as 100,000 years ago ape or man or was a bipedal hominid in the orangutang family that was potentially 8 feet tall a sky ape giant big standing freaky ape thing and that the reason why they figured out it was biped they believe dude yeah well like Bigfoot really it would be it would be Bigfoot I mean like us and they don't know that's true or not because they only have some jaw bones and see what happened was this guy found a tooth in an apothecary shop in China I I want to say the 1920s and

118:03uh he was an anthropologist and uh when he was there he looked at this like uh what's this where'd you get this and they took him to the place where they got it he he saw the tooth and he recognized it as a primate tooth but far larger than a gorillas far larger than a human being he's like whoa like this is like a giant tooth like what the going on they took him to the spot and then he found more bones and then it was eventually recognized as an actual animal and they call it gigantopithecus um they just don't know that there could have been Bigfoot yeah let me show them the picture of gigant Opus next to a person what area of the world was gig I found the baseball get the same guy do but just right now before we get to the baseball guy show the picture of gigantus next to a human being this Gus this is you know scientists believe this so this is not like Bigfoot researchers that are

118:51claiming is a real animal this is like actual scientist there's a a picture of one standing right next to a dude it's like a statue of gigantus covered in hair you got it it's huge so this was a real animal that right there that's Harry and the Hendersons that is Bigfoot I mean if that is what I mean and again this is not Bigfoot researchers they didn't create this this is created by actual anthropologists when did this exist it as recently as 100,000 years ago which so no chance that there's one still hanging out oh there's definitely a chance it's just I mean unless we comb every inch of the earth and we give an audit on every single living creature that is in the densest of dense forests we can't really say that that's true they thank you for keeping the magic alive dude we find new all the time and the Pacific Northwest where these things the the reason why it works work it works

119:44geologically or geographically because the that animal existed in Asia we know that humans came from Asia like literally American Indians Native Americans they're from Siberia like they have the same DNA as people who came from Asia they came acoss P or something like that all the whole thing has been connected and separated for as long as humans have been human right so if we came from that area we know that a bunch of other animals came from that area too and they think that it's entirely possible that that big ass monkey thing came from that area too somebody brought it with them it just came like all these other things us the that could be where the whole Yeti thing comes from the yeti thing is one of those living in an extremely cold climate during the Ice Age I it's entirely possible and people either saw a remnant of it or but never alive they

120:34would have never crossed paths I I bet they did back in the day for sure are you I they did are you serious yeah 100% we we we cross pass with all the other great apes we cross pass with the rans why wouldn't we think we'd cross pass with a gigantopithecus like it's entirely you see it and you'd run if it's really smart it would have a house and a cell phone and it's not smart enough to hide from us like get the out of here if we can find a gorilla going like wait what this is the problem we can find a gorilla we can find a chimp we find the how monkey this one monkey so slick it's still a monkey it doesn't even have pants this stupid he doesn't have shoes he doesn't have a house is that your barometer for intelligence you like pants or no pants beat a man with with no pants you're going to freeze death or you're going to figure out fire you walking around on

121:16two legs like you're the yeah come on bro figure it out so if he could figure out nothing except escaping people it'd be like wow what an extraordinary animal extraordinarily intelligent animal it's figured out at least how to get the away from people but it doesn't even have a house like come on I'm not buying it I don't think it's a real thing I'm with you but I think it was a real thing I think it was a real thing but I don't think it is a real thing yeah so do you think the somebody sees one of those frozen in a cave and then it's passed down or they could have encountered it if people have been around for I think what did we decide the other day in this form I think they the consensus is like at least 250,000 years we've been in this form that means for 150,000 years we lived around those things and that has got to be in our head cuz most likely they were probably peaceful

122:06because they were so big like a rang of tens but if that wanted to it would just throw you like a water balloon and you would splatter against a coconut tree and that would be the end of that and you'd imagine there be someone in our history we were like and then there was the great ape War we probably killed them we probably figured out bowz and arrows and we probably started killing them from a distance it's probably why we're alive and they're not and nobody remembers nobody I mean it's too long ago how could we know is passed down people I know about my grandmother and grandfather we know we killed those Hobbit people that's a that's a really uh fairly new revelation my god this is my favorite part island of Flores there's a a small being that they found in the island of Flores that's in the human species that they're literally calling The Hobbit people it's

122:49called like homo Flor enesis or something like that and this is this is 100% confirmed now I mean this is 100% accepted by mainstream science that this was an actual type of human being or type of so where the third one in type of yeah the third one in that was a real animal it wasn't a human necessarily like a homo sapien but it was some humanid or homonid some humanlike H skull finding a bunch of them they found they found quite a but a bunch of resistance now when I say um that they it definitely lived there are people to this day that don't think it lived but the vast consensus amongst these anthropologists that this is a real animal but there's always going to be people that are willing to you know debate it and they found a bunch of Bones of these little tiny people like things and what they think is that these are like literally like Hobbit people

123:47and that there was always been a legend of in uh I forget what part of the world it's called but the there's a thing called the oring pend deck I think that's how you say it Orin pend deck and that was a little tiny aplik person and they think that this this Legend of these little tiny AP likee people it was this species that this was a real species and they think that this real species might have even prayed on human children they might have been competing for resources we might have cannibalized them yeah it's entirely possible that we cannibalized um story The Grim Fairy Tales come from like the the troll that comes to steal your baby and like that I had this guy Dr Jordan Peterson from the University of Toronto the other day on the podcast and he was telling me a story about how when the fall of the Soviet Union or in Russia in the 1930s and during during Marxism that they had

124:39signs they had made signs telling people not to eat their children why because people were so starving that they were eating their children so they had to make Billboards saying don't eat your children okay well we just went on a different track I thought we were talking about the hobbits still well we are I mean I'm talking about cannibalism cannibal like human beings have been known need a human this was in the 1900s through the 20th century in Russia they were telling people don't eat your children I mean however many it happened three people ate their kids four I don't know what the numbers were but if that was enough to the point where the government wanted to have a sign that said please don't eat your children like holy that's pretty metal dude it's it's as metal as it gets people have been eating people for a long ass time uh and then we stopped why because

125:24civilation good for you that's where mad cow disease comes from did you know that oh my God I thank God I cleared out a bunch in my head so I can walk out of here with a bunch more knowledge go fire mad cow disease comes from something called prons com it comes other the brain tissue of your of other human beings that's one of the ways you get it like in Papa New Guinea the cannibals of New Guinea they developed J I think it's called Jacob Crooks Feld which is technically mad cow disease it's the exact same thing we're getting it because they're feeding cows cows right they're feeding cows ground up brain matter which they're not supposed to eat the cows eat that they develop these prons the people eat that tainted beef and the prons get into their body their own brains and does damage to and these prons can exist in like a thousand degree temperatures they're like these

126:14indestructible organisms and they invade your central nervous system there one thing you feed a cow another cow but you're saying this has existed prior to mad cow disease called something else in human beings well it's probably set up to discourage predation amongst the same species that you you are a part of because if cows get it from eating cows essentially to not eat our each other yeah and especially the brain tissue the brain tissue is apparently where we could really differentiate it like if you eat someone else's brain tissue that's like the New Guinea um neurological Jacobs crutz Feld which which affects cannibals like literally a disease affects cannibals it's like a neurological disease when you eat brain matter from your own species that's how they get it crazy and so that's maybe that's a reason why people stopped eating people oh yeah I mean I

127:05think it's it's I want the shakes like's nature discouraging that that this is an aberant Behavior this is not it's not what we want it's not conducive to the survival of the species all right so but wait if I could I eat a other than a cow it's weird yeah a rid cow brain like a brain let's say there was normal cow brain didn't have mad cow theas in it no prons could I eat that brain is that okay for me can I eat the brain noral cow brain you most certainly can eat people eat Lamb's brains and Cal's Brains it's like very very common that people eat brains why do because it's delicacy yeah it's like a delicacy it's an organ that some people even prefer for some meals some people love eating like Lamb's brain and cow's brain yeah it's trippy do you but do you get any is there any disease from it well or nutrient from it do you get something that you don't get from eating another

127:53meat that's a good question um I'm not saying will it make me smarter to eat a lamb's brain but I am saying like will it make some part of me stronger what if it did what if it did make you smarter but cows AR smart that wouldn't be bad what if you oh dare much sorry how dare you yeah if you ate like um if you ate a really intelligent thing I wonder if you'd get more intelligent well obviously it would have to be something outside your species imagine imagine if there was like magic in brains and the more brains you ate the more power your brain had and you just like people have believed that zie some time I don't know if that's necessar well the zombies us to want brains have called for brains in the not in the Romero flick no well think about Romero is the modern father of zombies right yeah I mean there have been the concept of Undead human has been around forever

128:47but calling it a zombie it comes out of the graveyard it wants to eat your brains I don't think they ever said brains in that movie The Zombies never say brains who did say brains who do you think said brains the first one that might have happened and you could look it up but I think it's uh is it revenge of the Living Dead which had nothing to do with the Night of Living death remember the scene in the cemetery where the girl has like sex she takes her gear off like I remember watching that in early days of cable I'm like oh my gosh she's going to have sex right here in the graveyard and then there's a zombie attack dude that movie was great was a really wonderful was a fun movie it was like kind of tongue and cheek very it did it had like a hypnos to it something funny to it but it was pretty committed to its Gore as well I got to write that down revenge of the Living

129:31Dead I got to get my I can't hate on zombies because I'm bailing on The Walking Dead you got like I got to fulfill my zombie love elsewhere is that what it's called return a living dead 1985 that's right and what did it say uh oh oh because it was made by John Russo parted ways and reached the agreement that Russo would retain the rights to the Living Dead suffix while Romero use agreed to use of the Dead in any subsequent media he prod how funny man those are the two dudes came up with Night of Living Dead so he's like you take uh Living Dead and I'll take of the whatever that's hilarious they negotiated it that's that's hilarious that seems rational though not bad I like to think they did that with a smile and they shook hands do you think Geor Romero is like man I wish I'd put my zombies on TV I don't know man what I saying the problem is it's not about

130:24Zombies anymore the zombies have like they're back to back to these little people could they eat human brains yeah that was the problem what one of the things they were speculating we got to finish that man one of the things they were speculating is that those things might have prayed on people and that we might have prayed on them and that that might be also what we did to the neander tals they found neanderthals apparently that had some scouring marks inside their heads like we might did like someone in the past might have killed a neanderthal and then ate him and broke his brain open and at scooped the brains out and cooked it yeah whoa yeah super super super hard to survive 500,000 years ago like man the person I wanted to win presidency didn't win the presidency and you're like there was a time dude where you'd be eating neanderthals brains and you'd be sitting there gone never

131:15thought I'd be here but you'd be doing it and by the way you would be one of the lucky ones cuz most people they'd be eating your brains that's true if you were eating the anatol brains you survived dude you clubbed them with that Macedon bone over the head while he was trying to rape your mom or whatever the hell went oh my God every story goes dark can't it just be can't it be like a first Thanksgiving story where like me and the Neanderthals like come to a common ground no you're eating his brain they give me his a brain and I give them some weat maybe like a dude who just fell yeah they like he we have no need for him eat his brain and like once a year we'll only do this once a year right imagine if that was the deal like look we're not going to kill you please don't kill us but if one of your guys dies can we eat him that's not I mean call me crude but that's not a bad deal

131:55right it's not the worst deal and think about this it's like why what are you going to do with them I I know there's the sentimentality and the Nostalgia of like oh the dead but it's like you're just going to put him in the ground he's going to rot what a waste of energy so you give us your dead we'll give you our dead and that will keep peace amongst the living dude we're on to a movie right here or a better version of government in a world where you like who needs a president maybe this this is the civilation civilization stabilizer have you ever heard of a Tibetan Sky funeral no dude prepare to freak the out here we go cuz the way they handle it in Tibet the Himalayas they take the body out they score it they chop it up into chunks and then the vultures come in and they get it down to the bone and then they smash the bones up and then the vultures come in and they consume the

132:43bones and they do it all this there's images of it you can watch it here blew my mind as much as I'm like that's kind of a let down at the end of the death they take the Bon this is how this is how they deal with their dead they feed them they literally feed them to vultures and they film it and they take photos of this it's like this is like this intense ceremony that they do of their de this is what they do now well you can see it like that's why I'm having Jamie pull it up I thought this is like the pictures of little people this is happening right now this is on live L too so I'm not going to put it up just go with the images because there's some a bunch of websites that have some Tibetan Sky funeral I mean we don't want to watch it necessarily just look look at some of the images but there's they filmed them now like people can see i' watch go to one like if I have choose

133:28between the two yeah you don't want to be there while that's going down might be a little weird put up on YouTube either though but just give me the images so that we could see them so um that's just a spinal cord and a skull this is kill the this is just one of their dead monks just a regular person so rather than bury them in the ground this guy he's just getting picked apart and then after they pick him apart like he's almost down to nothing then they have the bones they'll take the bones and smash them and the birds will come in and and eat the bones and the birds know like if you what you just clicked on Jamie up above right there like where you see the body right next to that yeah look at that so they taken this guy and they just they treat them is that a dead human being it's a bunch of dead human beings they take these human beings that die in wherever part

134:13of the world this is in uh in Tibet and they cut their bodies up for the vultures and they wear gloves I mean these are modern people look he's got Levis on and a belt and he's chopping up this this person's body and then they leave it out there and if you go through those series of pictures Jamie there's a whole series of them oh my God and you see oh I wasn't ready for that I can't unse that I thought they were just throwing dead bodies out there let the vultures pick them clean well in order to help yeah they help because they want it to be done within a good amount of time and the more it's chopped up like that the more vultures it'll attract and the quicker the whole process will be what is the reaction do you think it's ooh squeamish or do you think it's uh ego do you think it's just like what like no I'm far more complex like I've got way more going on in my

135:00head and body I can't wind up as bird food but at the end of the day you're food for something yeah man it's not the worst way to go because you're gone I mean as long as you don't go like you know like at the mouth of something while you're still alive but if they were like look when you're dead however you pass we want to feed you to something else I'm I think I'm okay with that well particularly like I feed a lot they'd remember me that'd be like oh he fed the village for like nine months you'd be amazed how quick they put you down they'd eat you so fast take the j a whole elephant like dude it go fast you you you disappear in a second yeah I know a dude who was in Africa when someone shot an elephant he said they just chopped that elephant up to like a million pieces and handed them out to all these villagers they came from far and wide to get elephant meat I

135:46was like whoa so everyone could eat I was like I go that's an instance of a bunch of people eating nut some who's just like hey man I killed something just kill something well I don't know the guy the I don't know who killed the actual elephant it might have been one of those guys that would just went there to kill an elephant and and then but when they kill the elephant so such a catch 22 but when they kill the elephant it's very beneficial to the environment because they have more they can pay for more of the park rangers to protect the elephants against poachers and then the people all around the village get the meat the real the thing is some places elephants are endangered but some places they decide the people decide there's a surplus those elephants cuz they're trampling on people's crops or eating people's stuff you know automatically you say like hey you should never kill

136:30elephants for sure but the the real problem is with some of these extremely poor people where elephants invade their crops you can't do a goddamn thing yeah and those are the people that want help and then they hire someone to come and kill an elephant it's very the whole thing's very up way more complex than way more complex than my teenage daughter May painted well I mean we would all like to think that human beings and elephants live so far away from each other that it was a non-issue and we just let the elephants survive out there in the wild and leave them the alone that's what we'd all like right right the problem with that is they do live with people and they live with people that are super poor and they live with people that have houses that are made out of hay and uh they're people too and as we all know El's like hay it's just like you know

137:15it's not all I mean it's not always that it's I mean there's a lot of it is trophy hunting there's a lot of it as coachers trying to steal Ivory there's a lot of like real darkness to killing elephants no doubt about it and ideally no one should ever have to kill an elephant but if if you if you don't want those people to kill the elephants you someone's got to figure out a way to at least capture them and make it valuable to transport them to some other part of Africa where they're not going to kill this guy or trample his and eat all of his crops unless you don't give a about the guy you know and you don't care and you you say well that guy's going to have to starve to death because the elephant is just as important as a living organism as the guy is which is another argument something has to fall in order for you to rise I see how people think that way I understand I

138:03understand where they're coming from I I disagree you know I'm I'm I'm more into people I like people more than any other animal but I love other animals too so I get where they're coming from I just think that uh it's complex yeah eating any animals complex like my buddy Brian uh just killed a rat in his house house he had a rat trap and he killed a rat and I was like whoa you got him whoa that's good I sent him a text message you got him and I was thinking this one of the few animals you could cheer for its murder and people back you up yeah everybody backs you up you showed a picture of a a rat that you killed with a trap like ah must been satisfying yeah well done man o that grosses me out if you're watching TV and you hear snap and you're like and you go in the kitchen and you got a fat rat you are happy I've you know we live out in we live in the Hollywood Hills and

138:55sometimes it gets dry and you know rats it's crazy it's one of those things that like I grew up in New Jersey and you would imagine that you know according to every joke you've ever heard that's where I would have encountered a rat never encountered a rat in my life until I lived in Los Angeles and so you're living in the hills and the desert yeah I lived in the suburbs of Jersey there weren't a lot of rats and we were by the water too wow so the rats if there were rats they lived in the rocks by the water and uh um there were a lot more fishing in those days you know as opposed to lately but um but yeah where was I going with that rats so R I didn't see until until I got to Los Angeles they come out of the hills cuz it's dry and and we got a pool and water tracks and like that creep and then you know you think like oh my God if I ever had a rat in my house I'd go AP and then

139:42suddenly you know you're like oh we are a house that gets rats in it and it's not like The Stereotype that you always think of where like we live like pigs and it's filth everywhere it's just like creatures looking for food and yeah that's the creepy thing it's like you sit in your office and you hear something in a wall yeah and you realize oh my God and they got once they get in they get the inside of your house down to a system in science unless you plug all the holes and we've had to go through that thing where you plug all the holes and then the skittering stops you never hear it again yeah those they will camp out in your house and if it's a safe spot they're like this is where we live now they're making a little nest in there especially if you have in in your attic like the nest and that stuff it happens but you're right man people get like yeah that's an animal

140:28that you're allowed to kill so like elephant no rat yes you know like tiger no you know like Mouse yes comes back to we have rules it's true yeah there's always going to be a guideline there I found a mouse the other day in uh I have like a one of those little pales with a mop for barbecuing you know like a little and the the mop thing was sitting there and I saw this little run up the top and go into the bucket I was like godamn it I got a mouse in that thing like that's gross he's going to all over that little brush so I took him over to the I picked up the bucket I took him over to the fence and just emptied him out on the other side and he fell and he just hit the ground and just stand there like what the like I just fell out of the sky and he just slowly started walking off and like I don't think he knew what the happened right but immediately I thought

141:19damn I should have fed him to my chickens what do you mean a chicken would eat a mouse oh dude would they eat a mouse they go after them like Raptors like Raptors in Jurassic Park like what you would imagine if like to eat mice I thought they e like grain chickens are straight up dinosaurs if you you remember that scene in Jurassic Park what is that a chicken with a mouse yeah pull it back so we can see it they'll a mouse up dude and they fight over them they all know and so they run after each other trying to like they stole it from the cat look at that cat cat's like that was mine that was mine what the and it's going to eat that mice dude I've seen chickens eat mice my chickens I see I've seen them eat one that I fed them I've told the story to many times oh they don't want to stare they they fight they they Peck at each other they they bite off each

142:10other's skin trying to get out the mouse they steal little pieces of from yeah you got a little piece um they're like remember that scene in Jurassic Park I saw a video of a a snake no a bunny mother bunny fighting a snake there's a video starts with this snake over a little patch of baby bunnies and out of nowhere this mother rabbit smokes in dude and you've never seen anything fight like this in your life you have you go do the the UFC but this so the mother rabbit went after the snake and wouldn't stop it wasn't like I'm going to get the snake away from my baby the snake off like I get it I get it and the rabbit wanted Revenge theb was like you and kept going like it was something I'd never seen before generally you know unless you're a bear right you defend get the thing away from you and then you go take care of your young this rabbit Chase it to the here it is watch this

143:03this is crazy so I'm sitting there going ew it ate the bunny already I don't know if it did anything but it's just right now on top of all is that squeezing the bunny look at this oh wow so it's the babies in there oh it killed the babies it looks like it killed one right that one's pretty quiet it killed a couple of them look so watch her go ape dude it just it smothered her babies man imagine her coming back and seeing that and this is why this happen this is crazy but dude it goes on for at least a minute and a half like even when the snake gets away s did you know that a rabbit could do this no look at that look at how many times bang with those kicks Ki biting it and kicking it at the same time she's like I hate you look at she's tore up its body its body's got all these holes in it now wow but not done watch wait till until gets to the wall and does a 360 watch this

143:54oh whoa it's trying to kill it yes it's pull it's going after it and pulling it down yes it doesn't want it to get away it wants to kill it Revenge dude like that's whoa look at that you see it flip cuz it almost bit her whoa that's not even a poisonous snake rabbit's not done wow that is amazing man where what part of the world isang bang bang uh there's a where is it cuz you hear kids talking and it's definitely got they got an accent you hear kids talk they have an accent or they yeah you hear the kids going uh do it Bonnie and stuff like that oh like England or some not quite England but like definitely Europe but look dude even on the Rocks this is not done wow it's like from hell's heart I stab at thee she doesn't say it says save babies she didn't save them that thing killed a couple of them she might have saved one maybe click on it and see if

144:51like somewhere there's an explanation or something like that or maybe that's what they told the kids hey she saved the babies but I I didn't see any movement there to me that was the story of a mother coming home seeing her kids dead and was like I'm going to kill you and that's a very human story you don't really think about that in the animal kingdom but like that's very human there it is I'm just whether it was revenge or whether she just knew that if that thing was alive it presented a threat to the other baby and she had to kill it because if she let it go eventually she would have to leave to come back to get food and the baby would be gone it would find out where it was maybe she knew that it would you're in the middle of like the worst moment of your life where like I've just lost two kids and you're like I still have to kill this thing to death

145:31otherwise it'll come back and take my other baby maybe me in the night oh and like so poorly equipped for battle to the death yeah all fluffy and with nothing but like teeth look what happens like holy man Unleashed just like grabbing and kicking scratching like apparently until you're just Goring that thing and that snake was a pretty nasty customer but he was still like I'm done I'm done yeah serpents and snakes and lizards and all those unfeeling cold things you know that that existed before time mhm chickens are in that group bro really yeah they're in that group you don't you don't realize it until you see them tear a mouse apart primordial they're like Raptors they're Jurassic Park Raptors they're just little you see them in the Kitchen open doors and we're lucky well they're not that smart but they're smart enough to like if I I have rocks around my house if I pick up a rock the

146:26chickens will go towards it because they know there bugs under it oh really they figure that out yeah but they're it's not about being smart it's about that lizard brain like they mostly are they're they're omnivores they mostly eat grain because most of them are being kept by people and that's the best way for you to feed them but when you let them loose they eat every thing that moves really everything every bug dead every they eat snake Nails dead anything whatever whatever's on the ground dead they caught a mouse they'll fight to the death over that Mouse they chase each other clawed out of each other's mouths they're little eating machines would they eat chicken oh yeah they'd eat each other for sure they peck holes in each other but I mean is that just picking holes or if you fed them chicken they'd eat the out of it if you cook some chicken and let it or made

147:11raw chicken and put it out there they'd eat the out of it they wouldn't even think twice you be like it's you it's you then they go open a kitchen door they're not smart um how many got 22 does it irritate you to watch Jurassic Park where you're like where the feathers bro we all know these things have feathers now now I they did make Jurassic world just recently yeah did they have feathers no no feathers well it's probably too hard like CGI wise because you can't use just one big texture next big cash grab like when they reboot the franchise it's going to be like we finally got feathers on now it's historically accurate remember when we were kids Columbus discovered America and dinosaurs were green yeah the good old days or the days the days now they off there's a a museum of Montana I never understood the dinosaur thing I'll be honest with you understood it in what way in as much as

148:08you find a bunch of Bones and then you extrapolate what it looked like well you mean it depends on the extent of what you're finding like there there has to be like some sort of consensus on what actually is a dinosaur like how much of this belongs to the same animal especially because you're dealing with fossilized remains and the problem with fossilized remains are it's not really the bone anymore it's like the bone disappears it's replaced by minerals and it makes this rock right so you can't really do DNA tests on it for the most part so you got to find enough of them laid out in the same way where you agree this was this animal you know and they've changed that over the you know time from the beginning of the first discoveries of dinosaurs to today but now they've doing it for so long they have a pretty good idea and then every now and then they find a new one and

148:53they go we'll check out this what is he but again like I'll get i'll Grant you hey this is what its bones would look like if we put it together but how do they get to like its skin was like this they don't they don't so it's all they speculation for years and now at least they're going we think it's got feathers pretty sure it's got feathers one guy had a really cool idea about t-rex that T-Rex would have like vulture colors that T-Rex would because it was they think that T-Rex like some people think that he was a predator and other people think that he was a scavenger and the one of the reasons why they think that he was a scavengers they they look at it the way his body's built like he couldn't possibly run very fast he couldn't really possibly Chase things down he's really super awkward but then there's other people that point to the idea that the atmosphere itself was very different

149:41back then and it might have been much richer and thicker and it actually might have been able to support an animal like that easier in terms of his size in in terms of his size in terms of the amount of life on the planet itself that the animal was so large and consumed so much but everything was so large back then and everything consumed so much back then there was so many examples of these Mega animals right like brosaurus and Allosaurus and T-Rex and these crazy gigantic things roaming the Earth the speculation is that life was there was more richness of Life there was more life and so the animals that consumed life whether it's in the form of plants like a brosaurus or in meat like an a T-Rex they just got bigger and bigger and bigger because there was so much to consume there was no need to like hold back their size whereas like if you're a chimp or if

150:32you're a human like there's only so much you can eat the more you eat we've shown the more people eat and the more prosperous their Nation the larger the people start to get right and so I think that it's entirely possible that that's the case with the world back then that the whole world was like it just supported bigger things it was just more life more green life more animals for T-Rex to eat and it was just this big thick oxygenated soup of life that nobody was lizard looking they were more bir probably bird and lizard because today we have crocodiles we have kodo dragons and we have chickens and we have Eagles an eagle is clearly a lot like a dinosaur right this crazy ass thing with swords on its fingers and death in its eyes and it swoops down and it's got the strength to catch a fish in the water and pull it out and fly with it they can catch goats and

151:29pull them off the side of cliffs and watch them fall and smash on the Rocks below they do it as a strategy to get to eat it it's like we'll knock it down go there I've I've heard I've not never seen seen there's videos they catch a mountain goat they pull him off the side of the cliff and then they let him go and they smash on the rock Down Below Golden Eagles in particular because they're some of the largest Eagles yeah giant 7ot wingspan flying demons snatch them and they're doing it just cuz that's the yeah that's how they get meat watch this this is crazy like golden eagle look at the the eyes in that thing that evil that looks very much like a like a dinosaur oh it is in the movie so sweat this he swoops down and they know what's coming too they Boogie they're like this he swoops down God the shitty resolution this must drive you nuts as a filmmaker

152:25I'm fine he swoops down look at him he drops down boom he gets one and then he takes it watch this snatch Up Up and Away in my beautiful my beautiful balloon oh my God those poor thing like no boom Oh my God look at that he literally follows it to the rocks to make sure it lands on its head and then boom all the way to the ground so this is a strategy this is a strategy for eating these goats so he'll go down there and now easy picking easy picking means he earned it he caught a he caught a goat spp nature is red in tooth and claws look at this too he carries it right to the rocks and then lets it go watch this lets it go right here badia wow he flew so far with that one look how far he flew that's incredible with a goat maybe if he got a good hold of it he doesn't have to throw it if you couldn't carry I couldn't carry a goat that far look at this thing what a

153:32majestic animal man do you think the goat there's any part of the goats it's like maybe I'll survive this what a story I'll have to tell it's amazing man amazing life form flying monster predator do you think now that's not an American Eagle that's a what that's a golden eagle I think the largest Eagles are these Venezuelan Eagles called Harpy eagles and those kill monkeys really yeah yeah I think that that was that a mountain goat that was a mountain goat cuz they look bigger than a mountain goat look like pretty big um kill that killing a chimp seen that they kill wolves so they just swoop down in Mongolia the Mongolians have trained Eagles golden Eagles to attack wolves and kill them and then they use their fur there's video of that too can we oh yeah for sure makes you feel lazy makes you feel like it should it make us we should go kill something

154:34no it didn't make me feel bad Joe sweat this he he swoops in his eagle swoops in and the Wolf knows exactly what the is going on I mean that guy look at that guy's face that guy is's a direct descendant of gask Khan I mean they have the traditional Mongol uh wear on and these Eagles swoop down they see the wolf they know exactly what to do look he's got the little things this guy's like H the W like this you can't really defend against that I would have never thought that Eagles were so fearsome to wolves I thought wolves would Eagle up if you ask turn around and bite its head off at the right time yeah I like a wolf dude wolves are ferocious but this wolf is way bigger than the Eagle too like if you look at the actual body size of the eagle I mean it's like the wolf's like three or four times bigger see how small he is D look he just grabs the back of his neck and pierces him with

155:30his claws it's amazing is that a second bird or the same my dble team this poor dog d double Jack them but the first one's already handled him look he just grabs a hold of his head with those knives and just sticks those knives in his neck are they eating that wolf right now yes yes they're eating the wolf you would have never thought I would have said dude why didn't they ever show this in Mulan this looks amazing so he he gets his Eagle friends that dog's definitely dead right thanks boys oh the wolf's dead dead as look another one's coming in oh look at lands right on his arm this is amazing why don't they try to eat the man I don't know it's a good question you know what I'm saying like how long before they're like you know we can keep attacking these wolves or we could turn and hit the dude in the Hat well maybe if the dude keeps bringing them wolves

156:18they're like look guys he seems pretty cool yeah but if the bird figures out like he didn't bring me a wolf there are wolves out there for the taking just like there are humans I could be picking the spool off I could turn around and eat his eyes out it's a good point damn you're making a lot of sense today I um what were we going to look up before we were going to look up that there was something else oh the harpy eagle that swoops down and kills monkeys that's one of the reasons uh why we look up all the time apparently people look up they have a consistent like instinct to look up like you're in the forest or something like that you look up one of the main reasons is they think that there's an ancient Instinct that we have to protect ourselves from flying Raptors because they found you know old hominids like not necessarily humans but in the human tree that had predation marks from

157:10Eagles in the inside of their skulls so it came from that yeah from Eagles from Eagles swooping down and you know especially larger eal yeah look up a lot of no no not look up do you look up for danger yeah bro use Google you're like come on my I Google everything I need references no I don't but apparently it's an inst I mean I'm not mostly in the woods like looking around for in the forest but apparently when you go to the forest like there's an instinct to look up also could be connected to cats too potentially but most of the time big cats are not hiding in the trees and they come down and get you cats I'm worried about ticks I'm looking up cuz like get any ticks in my hair man somebody have to use a big later burn Lyme disease man that's a dark and silent killer and it was something we've seen develop in our lifetime am I right about that didn't

158:01exist when I was a kid and then one day somebody was like if you get bit by a deer tick you'll be up for a long time it's like mono times a thousand yeah I know a guy who got Lyme disease misdiagnosed Steven Cotler um a guest in the podcast really recently misdiagnosed um for about a year wound up spending 3 years in the hospital because of it 3 years in the hospital because of Lyme disease wrecked his immune system because the misdiagnosis of over a year and all these different doctors told them it wasn't it wasn't that that's what it is you're you might be going crazy one doctor told him he had AIDS are you do told you have AIDS he's like what like the it was you know during the time where a lot of people had AIDS and he was saying like this what you he was like no I think I think it's Lyme disease like doctor's like no you have AIDS like holy you know because your immune system is

158:49devastated when you have Lyme disease who's wasting away oh a doctor like that sued the out of everybody Jesus he he didn't tell us the numbers but I believe he got paid so as Damon way would say it he had to go through a lot to get there though there's easier ways I'm sure he wouldn't have chosen oh he didn't want it but I think he learned a lot about himself like overcoming this incredible Health crisis but I've had many people that I'm friends with get Lyme disease I know at least 10 people but you go out in the woods a lot fun yeah so that's and that's where they're all Contracting it I know several people who' have gotten it from that for sure yeah but I know other people that have gotten it just from uh don't say just like from upate New York you know you're just like going fishing or something like that I mean it doesn't have to be Upstate New

159:32York it could be North Carolina it could be you know all Outdoors though right almost all Outdoors almost all ticks ever happened here in California yes yes it's not as prevalent but it has happened here in California tick are bad news man they're they're carriers and that disease is Insidious and it's it's a tricky one too because it's often times misdiagnosed or especially uh what he was talking about Cotler was saying that the doctors in California weren't really hip to it because it's not common you know but AIDS was more common so that's one of the reasons why this guy it was also insurance and you know like it was a shitty deal where the doctor wasn't get paid very much for each person that came to him so he wasn't very motivated we kind of went through the full gamut of explaining uh how uh it came to be but yeah misdiagnosed for a year wanted spend three years in the

160:22hospital yeah I that's a losing that much time to something where you're like what bit me a again that's where human arrogance or ego would come in where I'm be like a bug put its dirty spit in me and now I'm going to be in a hospital three years this isn't fair and then you remember there guys out and Tibet chopping people up CH people up so the vultures can eat them you're making movies and smoking weed yeah doing fine life everything seems pretty awesome I'm not sweating the ticks anymore you're not sweating you're doing fantastic I came back from Recently I was in Vancouver I've been I I have been in the woods lately uh I did directed Two episodes of The Flash one last season one this season which was fun and that one episode the second netf no uh yeah I think so the old episodes but it's a CW Show I need to watch that show it's it's dope if you

161:16like DC Comics oh my God love com movies I'm I'm I'm more into them now as I get older than I I was when I was younger it's a show It's You Know It Center is about a boy who runs very fast to solve all his problems but at the really it's just soap opers for boys or and girls I'm not even going to limit it to it's just they're very soap operatic it's you know it's like very episodic and they throw in an adventure each week but it's more about the relationship between the characters and stuff that's kind of what you keep coming back for it's good balance of heart humor and heroics like you know they got the family stuff or friendship stuff like yeah it's important to be friends then they got some laughs and then the heroics is like holy look at them run fast holy look at her fly I did an episode of Supergirl as well so I was in Vancouver like three times in the span of the last

162:03year um and we were out at one point out in the woods and I remember being kind of like uh can I get some protection and like you think you're getting laid out here in the woods I was like no for like ticks and stuff like that like oh that's not a real big problem here I don't know if it is up in the Pacific Northwoods you would imagine with all I don't think it's a real big problem in the Pacific Northwest I think it's uh more it's more of an East Coast problem well they they named it after lime Connecticut that's where all the that's where it originated that's where the original diagnosis of it was how long it existed before that as anybody's guess I don't know but I do know it's also connected to other neurological disorders like uh morgelin morgelin is a weird one where uh people think they have strands of fibers growing out of their body and often times they have these cra

162:49uh delusions and what Cotler was saying was that it has a neurological effect and he didn't have like more gellin disease but um one of the doctors that I interviewed about Morgellons was telling me that he believes it's connected to lime disease because Lyme disease has some sort of neurotoxicity effect it has some sort of an effect where distorts reality and Cotler had a real problem remember he was talking about he couldn't figure out whether uh green light meant go or he didn't didn't understand how to drive anymore like his body out of nowhere out of nowhere and he's realizing wow something's really wrong and this neurotoxicity effect this this whatever it was doing to pollute his brain's ability to function correctly the more gelant people think it's also what makes you Claw at your skin and think there's fibers in there and you start seeing that it's and

163:39then they they get like fibers from their clothes stuck to their scabs and they think that's growing out of their body but it's more likely just an offshoot of lime because apparently when you get lime you're not getting one bacteria it's one of the reasons why the results that people have like when they when they get bitten vary so widely it's like there's a gang of different ones right and there's a bunch of different also like uh neighboring poisons and toxins that this this tick could have in its body it might just not be the simple lime disease oh here's that one bacteria the tick has it no The Tick The Tick might have a host of different pathogens that affect you as Lyme disease like it's not just this is this guy who has it explaining to me and I'm my pants because I know so many people have gotten this and there's no one like how you take this antibiotic

164:31and knocks it out no no no no and it it varies widely how your body reacts to it when you get it my friend's son my friend Steven renella his son got it the doctor M misdiagnosed him the kid W up getting Belle's paly where his face started going numb in childhood yes yes yes to my dad when he was in his like 50s well most likely the young body could probably bounce back from it better than the old body but for a lot of people like uh my friend Cody has it he's like 26 I think and he says his joints hurt all the time and that it's from from having lime like from that point on like his joints are always achy I've I've not been bit by a tick and I don't have Lyme disease but lately I've noticed I'm 46 now so I have noticed Aging in a way that I haven't before my knee lately doing nothing and I'm not an active guy at all has been being weird and somebody said

165:22it's from descending a hill I walk every day walk the dogs like a mile and a half up a hill and back down that's like my exercise routine and the down the hill they said that's what's doing it to you they're like how do you walk and I was like I don't know like this and they're like you don't do heel toe and I was like I I don't I don't know don't I and they like no look and apparently I walk ball heel as ball heel up is the way to go yes ball heal down he to down apparently is what they're saying but I don't know anybody like unless you're unless you're thinking about walking heel toe I don't know if you necessarily fall into a heel toe type pattern well the real issue is there's a big issue with shoes like the way we have constructed shoes we've created a gate that's an unnatural like heel toe forward gate like people always used to walk on the ball of their foot cu the

166:08ball of the foot acts as like a shock absorber it allows you to slowly lower your heel down to the ground which is why a lot of like those Barefoot Runners they do so well like if you're you're running Barefoot all the time you're developing like these incredibly strong feet and they they they're springing and they don't need like these big thick cushions but we in I guess it was like the 1970s when Nike came out with a running shoe they developed that big fat ass heel and then people started running on the heel they started bouncing on the heel instead of using the natural shock absorbing motion of land shoe change the way we walk as human beings it changed our running gate wow yeah which would also would it affect your walking gate as well sure yeah sure yeah yeah prior prior to the the sneaker who what was that guy's name Phil Knight or something like that or I don't know who

166:54invented Nike Jamie your KN J Jamie goes yeah yeah yeah he's excited he's a sneaker head Phil literally changed was it he buys Yeezys what's that exactly thank you God bless you God bless you your kind soul easy in there I was like maybe that's Kanye West yeah it's amazing that you don't know that thank you I Tred I try to keep my head firmly lodged up the ass of the '90s that's where was good for me he was like you don't know what Yee are like you get away from me you're not poisoning me always keep your finger on the pulse J but meanwhile people look at his sneakers hey yo fresh Yeezys and he's like yeah Jamie gets all and he looks over at me like how many people have done that like five or six EAS lot a lot a lot no look I'm not saying it's me you big Sneakerhead oh he's a dork we had a pair of sneakers once we had a smast pair of sneakers for podcast he's

167:42a super sneaker dork sneakers are awesome man I like them but uh I only like C got to tell me man I have those Converse to twos fell apart on me quick kind of shocked like Converse ones virtually indestructible you know Converse 2os fell apart on me pretty quick you tend to do a lot more active than the average bear though to be fair yeah but like these these are the Converse ones these are the Chuck Taylor they're the they have no soul there's like there like the Rubber Soul but there's no cushioning it's like very little like sponge feel the ground Vans were like that as well feel the ground yeah sort of yeah like those thin thin so shoes to me it's like that's how you're supposed to walk you're not supposed to walk with like this crazy cushion in the bottom you know like whenever I do the UFC I wear dress shoes and dress shoes have like a heel and if you stand in them with that

168:34heel for like a while it kind of makes your feet feel weird like they don't feel good like they want to get out of them like if you're wearing like Converse Allstars you get out of them it's like not like your feet were hurting right you know second skinny slippers they're so minimal they're like they're the best sneaker in my mind for like just wearing just walking around wear I'm not even getting paid by Converse bro I'm just you're just advocating the same way you'd be like look we should all be nicer to each other we should all get $122,000 a year we should all have a pair of these you can't pretend you're too fancy if you're wearing Converse Allstars you can't pretend you're like a super fancy Yeezy wearing man he's a Yeezy wearing man he might sell his he's like he might sell them as they've been worn for a while there's a secondhand Yeezy Market so there's you can somebody

169:20will buy waren sneakers eyebrows are up look at him he's excited I've got uh some Simpsons vans from back in the day that buy offer for for for those as well you know who I bet would buy them that dude who didn't want to take the 40 bucks he'd buy them he'd buy them Jer off them this what running shoes look like in 1920 W that's crazy it's got a heel dude they have cleat on them for but they're dress shoes that's amazing did they have tracks or were they just running in like that dirt Circle probably dude they had heels the Spenser shoe possibly the first pair of specialized running shoes ever made oh my God old timey pictures dude dude that's amazing though look at those stupid things this is off the topic but old timey picture triggered in me have you ever heard of the cotting Le fairies no so I guess maybe turn of the century or the beginning like 1900 or something

170:12like that there are these little girls in England that photographed themselves playing with fairy whoa and the world was exposed to it uh not this wasn't the only person but uh what's his name Sir Arthur Conan Doyle there's the picture Sir Arthur Conan Doyle the writer of Sherlock Holmes was a spiritualist and so he actually wrote an article defending that picture go you go through all the pictures those are the cotting LEF fairy pictures hey dude I'm going to take a Le Le I'm holding in some pee for quite a while now this this needs to be debunked Jamie tell them about your sneakers I was going to say keep talking but there was this says Museum of hoaxes I wonder what they talk about oh this is a hoax this is a big time hoax the uh the kids years later admitted that they had kind of cut the picture they admitted something that if you look at these photos you'll be like that had to be

171:15admitted like to us it's very clearly she cut pictures out those are pictures those are two-dimensional images of fairies and pretty traditional fairy imagery um years later they revealed that they traced the images out of a popular book and and put their own spins on them and then cut them out and took pictures with them but Arthur Conan Doyle the guy that wrote Sherlock Holmes like really defended this going no there are fairies there is another world and it's trying to break through and these little girls have been in contact with it um you know and he was ridiculed by over half the population because a lot of people looked at that picture and saw what we see which is yeah kids with little cutouts pictures of fairies but there was a time where almost half the world was like oh no that's real the yeah that could be real the cly fairies are pictures that these kids

172:16took Joe and clearly just just blow one up clearly fake as exactly but there was a time because you had somebody like Arthur Conan Doyle going no this is real and spiritualism is a real thing and there are other races and other beings and fairies are real out there in the world defending it and stuff and then finally late in their lives when they were like nearly passed you know they said yeah we cut them out of a book and they admitted to something that you knew right away just by looking at the photo like oh that's fake as but in the 20s or whatever or back in the day oh yeah man oh my God you could show somebody a picture and they were like that's real well you can only imagine I mean how gullible people were before photos that I look at I'm like that's but I still think of the Bigfoot video and I'm like that shit's real like when he walks past the camera

173:07and then he suddenly looks at the camera I saw a thought on this is on this topic recently like if you uh like 5 years from now if like Photoshop was erased from the internet's remember how could you explain Photoshop pictures to somebody it's a good question like if we live to be a few thousand years from now like if Society goes down and then they re build computers a thousand years from now and they look at these old images but they don't have the capability then yeah totally possible they'll be like there was somebody standing on top of one of the Twin Towers when a plane came at it on September I remember seeing that picture and being like holy how'd they find that camera for 5 seconds and then I was like wait a second dude we live in the age of Photoshop do you know the guy that created Photoshop created it with his brother is the guy that created the story or came up with the

173:55story for this new Star Wars movie Rogue one wow special effects wizard right and so one day you know they they work in the special effects Biz him and his brother are like you know this would be helpful like in a in a kind of home use setting you know like being able to take a photograph and manipulate it so in their spare time dude like cuz they were working on Motion Pictures and hly in their spare time they invented Photoshop Jesus Christ they must be gazillionaires but he still works at Skywalker do you know who John carmac is John karmac is the uh he's one of the original um owners of ID software okay he's the head programmer lead programmer he created quake and doom and and a a bunch of different awesome video games and now he also works on Oculus Rift the uh yeah he's working on that um hero to the game Community because he created like arguably the greatest 3D shooter of all

174:53time the series of them Doom Quake Quake one Quake 2 Quake 3 he uh in his spare time made rockets in his spare time he was a rocket scientist so he was he was coding the most complicated 3D Graphics engines known to man for video games right then in his spare times he's making Rockets he's a rocket scientist for fun then he would take Ferraris and turbocharge them so he'd get these Ferraris because he's got ungodly sums of money for making all these crazy video games that have sold cab billions of copies right okay he's buying Ferraris and re-engineering their engines in his spare time what do you mean what re-engineering it to do twin turbocharging Ferraris gigantic this was a long time ago man where a Ferrari would have like if it came from the factory maybe 400 horsepower he would Jack them up to like a thousand in his spare time he was making Renaissance Man a a real life bucku

175:58banai if you will a guy who you and I are barely in the same species yeah exactly barely that's true in a moment like that you're like well I can't do any of those things Comfort Yourself by being like well he probably can't make a real good dick joke and then that's not enough I'd much rather be him than me better to not balance yourself out better not to go well he can't do what I better off to just go look at this crazy this is amazing just to appreciate someone else's ability yeah the less time you compare yourself to other people the better off you'll be just enjoy how amazing people are don't think man I wish I was that amazing yeah it's the well I think well that's what I was going back to the $112,000 a year free $112,000 a year for everybody I think what gets in the way is human nature because you have some people who are like why is he he don't deserve that

176:5012,000 or he gets a lot he's got a nicer house and he's also getting the 12,000 than I'm getting mhm oh yeah for sure I think that would start seeping in yeah but he gets a lot because he makes money on top of the 12,000 so his needs are taken care of being logical you got to admit human animal doesn't always see things logically sometimes they just be like why them why not me we get selfish yeah yeah that that that's that's where the $112,000 12,000 a year is comes into problem it comes into I don't know we don't know because I don't think it's been really at least on a wide scale it's ever been practiced I'm with you what a good ide I just don't think our system how many people did you say we had in in this country 3 something million plus Mexicans so do quick math what is that how much oh I'm sure they've done it out that's one there was an argument by an economist like a

177:35really well respected Economist for Universal basic income and I think the number they were going by was $122,000 a year see um surprisingly supports Universal basic income just Google that and because there was some um pretty prominent Economist who actually understands the system uh except for you and I they're like oh I got enough money I can do my thing is this like a n Chomsky kind of no n Chomsky is a um he's a linguist right so he's not a uh not would be talking about economy at all n CH you ever try to follow n Chomsky stuff language tough dude like it's it makes you It Feels Like Doing exercise with your brain like it feels like you're doing a workout um the easiest way to I think take in some Chomsky is is uh there's that movie they did it was a documentary um is the tall man happy I think is the name of it is the man who is tall happy um and it was directed by

178:37um the guy that oh what's his m Michelle gondry the director he made a very interesting documentary that was partly animated in a conversation with chsky what is it called again is the man who is tall happy I believe is the title um and it's wonderful it's like beginners it's Chomsky for beginners because it's very colorful and breaks it down but I watched the other morning I got up and blazed and watched three interviews with him uh talking about post elction and stuff and his take on everything and uh a fascinating character oh my God like even at he's he's advanced in age at this point but that mind is yeah sharp as and it's one of those Minds you can be like uh there going to be a loss to lose that mind he's thinking about things that a lot of others aren't and his thing that spooked me big deal was uh uh he said right now the whole world should be F uh focused

179:32on the on the Russian front on Russia and the Russian front because that's where your hot spot of activities like United States and Russia have come in Conflict lently recently in a way that they haven't since the Cold War and he's going and now you're talking about two superpowers with the ability to destroy the planet that we haven't really thought about since the ' 80s and all of a sudden you're like oh is that what they meant by make America great again like let's be scared of the popular possible nuclear Annihilation because I hadn't thought about that in years I'll be honest with you that was another thing that bummed me out about the Clinton campaign they were Russian fearmongering one of the big things that she kept saying during the election was they were talking about being hacked and she was saying it was the Russians so she was implying that Donald Trump

180:13supports the Russians because he supports the hacks and there's no evidence the Russians did it none I I've looked at it people have got mad at me so that I've looked into it deeply there's no one has proven that the Russians have done it but they're saying it as if they' proven the Russians have done it so one of two things either the Russians ad that they actually tinkered with sure I would admit it too but there's no evidence they did it okay I mean who knows if they did it fair point but the problem is if you say they did it you got to know for sure they did it otherwise I'm going to listen to you every time you say you know something for sure and I'm like this definitely doesn't know for sure you can't know for sure because you don't have the information if you did you tell us what it was like you don't know and the FBI doesn't say they know and the

180:55CIA doesn't say they know there's a likelihood there's a possibility there's a high probability but you don't know so until you don't until you know you can't say you know because as soon as you do because you might be full of about other things you might you know you might fill in the blank on a bunch of other important stuff and pretend you know when you don't know because that's what you're doing and I think that's another thing like as a civilization we can't allow that we can't allow that like in Donald Trump when he keeps talking about these millions of Voters that uh that illegally voted and kept him from winning the popular vote you can't say that did you can't do that anymore why like some because you can't lie well number one you can't lie number one you you couldn't do that before right he kind of seems to have brought it back and it hasn't killed him he is

181:39in fact the president when you do this thing when you put your hand on the ancient book your right I'm with you but we're we're in the idium now like it doesn't matter what used to be and and there is no more you can't because of things like that where you're like well you couldn't but he did and everything worked out fine well that that we with you I'm totally with you in terms of like you shouldn't right say that because that starts breaking the system down but then again we were just talking about like is this A system that you even want in place in a world where you're like do we need a president who cares what's being said then like why why does it matter if somebody's being like there were Le there was uh people that voted that didn't vote yeah because he's the guy now see like if you want that position you have to be under oath all the time that's what it's got to be

182:22like totally like if you really want to say that you're so Noble or you're so powerful or wise or whatever you are that you whatever your attributes are you're so awesome that you should be the president like man you can't be lying about illegal voters like if unless you have some data you can't say it until you have some data you can't say it and once you say it you got to have some data you got to a lot of things with no data whatsoever and I understand like you say anything get elected but now we're beyond that still playing the same kind of game I'm just I've just not grown comfortable with but I think I'm I have to learn to accept the fact that you know what I used to consider a fact is no longer a fact people talk about facts in this real loose way now where they're just like well what is a fact a fact to you may not be a fact to me and it's like well that's not the definition

183:07of fact at all a fact is a fact but people go what's factual for you may not be factual for me we're on such a slippery slope now that the Matrix bro that's the least egregious thing at this point of him being like 2 million vote people voted illegally cuz the dude was literally saying he won the popular vote like that's the first big weird kind of untruth well but he said a lot of things that like sometimes he chalks up to like I was kidding it's the same kind of thing it's you know someone saying that the Russians hacked the the Democratic National Conference or committee or whatever the it is DNC M are you sure you know that's the same thing like saying that like these are all like whether little tiny lies or whether they're leaps of Faith or leaps of judment or whether they're just full Fabrications uh you can't do any of them shouldn't be able to do any of those I

183:53agree like if anybody catches you like if you're in big government and you know there's a video of the FBI saying one thing and then you saying another thing when the FBI told me this and the FBI is saying explicitly what they told you and those things don't match right there should be a trial right there should be like are you a liar like do you do you do you get interview extended to people that are like you know the president was born in it should only be when you have power Muslim country and musim if you have like yeah he's per perfect example when he was saying that that he was born in Kenya like Trump was like a major league birther like that's a perfect example yeah he he was some theorize I've read that he kind of jumped on to the birther movement because he was like well if I ingratiate myself with this crowd that'll be helpful if I want to run for president in a couple or he

184:39might have like watched a YouTube video and believed it too that too so I like to think that I I mean I don't like to think but I choose to think that he's smarter than that but you're right know man it could have just been him like recently he tweeted anyone who burns the flag should go to jail and be arrested and then they found out I read an article online that they had just run a piece on Fox news about flag burning so he was kind of informed by something he just like watched on TV did you know but that's how most people tweet right they see something they go like that but that's not what you want out of a chief executive of a country at least that's traditionally not what people wanted but this time that seems to be what people want did you know Hillary Clinton had proposed that very same thing in 2005 she proposed that flag burning should have a stiff fine in a year in jail like

185:29she said that right but she's not the president know yeah right now that he is yeah it's well the whole thing is Uber Uber bizarre from Top you feel like and and and and I don't want to you know paint it cynically like this country has been here for a while probably be here for a lot longer than than our petty issues with it in the moment if we have issues with it but I I just you know I I don't it's it it became a different world in the span of six months MH yeah I feel like it did too like in a in a way where you know I thought I had this down like I think about this whenever I was in school you'd read like your history books you'd be like how come they didn't stop this why didn't they know this was going on like what the are you serious like I'm sitting here as a child this and I know that this is wrong why didn't someone step in why didn't blah blah blah I

186:22remember going to Germany the first time with clerks I went to the Berlin film festival and before screening me and my friend Brian Johnson we were like well let's go see a concentration camp we're here we should go see a concentration camp and they're like dude you got to introduce a comedy in three hours you really don't want to do that I was like no I'll compartmentalize I was like let me I'm here I got to see history and so you know we went to uh what booken Wald the one that says RB get mocked fry over it work will make you free like the worst lie and um it's you know obviously sobering and horrible and you know and they you seeing the dimensions and spaces where things happened and whatnot and you can't help but turn to the guy who was our cab driver who drove us for Berlin which was like 40 minutes out of Berlin maybe an hour out of Berlin and then drove us

187:10back and you know he was waiting with us while we were there so he went through the concentration camp and he's born and raised in Germany so I'm sure he's had to do do this a number of times with school or something like that right but you couldn't help but on the ride back you didn't want to be that American dick but it's like did anyone in your family know did you guys talk about this like how do they handle this sort of thing over here like how did you guys wake up after it was all over and go back to what was the new normal like you realize this is heinous you know and the guy was just like it's taught to us in school and and there was a moment when you know every young kid in school learns out uh Hitler and and the Third Reich and the Holocaust that they go back to their parents and start saying like how much did you know how much did Grandma and Grandpa know blah blah blah

187:55wow so you I think of moments like that where I'm just and I'm not I'm certainly not comparing this country to the Germany but I stretch of imagination I'm just Hitler not at all bro that's what I heard not at all all I'm saying is like there are moments in history where you know I thought we were kind of past it history happens all the time you know obviously September 11th is a very big historical moment in our lifetime but I really felt like well you know until like World War III we're probably done with history for a little bit which is ridiculous statement but now I feel like we are living in a chapter in a history book some kid in the future is going to be looking at this chapter and being like really like that's they didn't know that's what they did and I'm not saying again like I expect horrible things from this guy or anything I'm just saying the

188:40world is vastly changed in a way that it's going to be Rec it's recognized now and it'll be recognized when they they write the book on this year and when they write the book on this year for years to come suddenly we're kind of in that moment as well but then again we probably were always in a moment of history and I I don't even mean in a stoner way like this is a moment of History this is a moment of history but history is not always that loud and noticeable sometimes it's quiet and they don't notice it until later on well we've gone through it I mean I'm a couple years older than you but we remember Reagan yeah we remember the Iran Contra affair is that is that what it feels like to you I feel natur Al it felt like so I was just having this discussion with somebody else but in the 70s 60s 60s into the 70s you had this kind of progressive growing America

189:28where suddenly you know maybe there wasn't as much segregation and and you know people were people were kind of developing evolving and and becoming more like the world we recognize now and it felt like you know like by showing you stuff like All in the Family and whatnot you know arts and tries push the edge of the envelope at all times try to put normaly into something that you know a situation that you maybe don't find normal but if you see it on TV enough you're like hey I'm over it and suddenly it's it's for real and stuff like that felt like you know the 80s and and Reagan and again I'm not a political creature by stretch of the imagination I lived through it but I was not active during it by by stretch of the imagination but it feels like that time was a reaction to the culture like hey things have gotten too Loosey Goosey around here and then things got conservative

190:21for eight years or or more and then it feels like things loosen up I I mean again I'm no political analyst but it just seems like if you look over your history it contracts and it expands it contracts and it expands but the contractions don't seem to bring it back to square one you know it may be a matter of of two steps forward one step back two steps forward one step back and if you do that enough over the course of a Nation there's growth and and you'll see the balance but you got a bunch of people that don't believe in the same things don't even see the world through the same prism so it just feels like I don't know I mean maybe the idea and again a couple Stoners talk about how to how to do the presidency better maybe you just have an agreement where it's like eight years of this eight years of that and that's only if it's a two-party system like what if you come up with a

191:13four-party system and you're like okay you only get four years and then the next then it goes to this party right after then this party well there is a multiple party system you can you have a multiple independent parties if you look at the the ballot a lot of other people wanted to run for president right like Gary Johnson and Jill Stein and I'm sure there were a bunch of other ones that we don't know yeah there was zultan Ison who's the he's the Transcendent or transhumanist party there like a lot of people ran but that that's the the the system is just so old yeah it's just so goddamn ancient we're trying to catch up this thing that we would never create today if it existed today there's no way we would ever let one person have all the power I just think that human beings are in a process of waking up and of realizing how bizarre our position is I mean and not just our position in

192:07America but our position on the planet Earth as it hurls through Infinity we're on a spinning ball that's floating in the sky and hurling towards the cosmos or the cosmos and we not to focus that alone is insane and we're concentrating on whether or not gay people should be able to marry or girls should be able to get abortions or whether or not black lives matter we're hurling through infinity and I think this slow process of realization coincides with the Innovation that you're seeing from like all these different new technology uh companies that are coming up with better and better ways to communicate whether it's cellular or video or whether they're they're using SnapChat or virtual reality rooms where they can all meet in and it's going to keep going and going and going and going and going and going until we're in some sort of a matrix-- like world it's

193:01inevitable it's going to happen you think we go digital eventually 100% 100% And I think we might not even have a choice I think it's entirely possible we're going to create a new form of life some new artificial form of life and that thing is going to be what goes on from now we're going to merge with that somehow we're going to find out that they can give you new eyes when your eyes go bad and these eyes allow you to look at navigation screens and Google things and you're going to be able to you're going to be able to stare straight at the sun it's it's inevitable that we're going to improve upon the human body they're already replacing people's hips and shoulders and knees they're growing hearts in a laboratory with stem cells that actually beat they created a woman's bladder at a stem cells she had bladder cancer they made her a bladder here we got one for you

193:53stitched it back in there like whoa like we're veryfi we're doing some crazy and it's going to keep going 50 60 70 80 100 years now whatever it takes we're going to merge we're going to merge with technology going to you and I have been sitting here talking for a little while and normally when you're in the world you've got that that device in your hand it's in your hand I've noticed that my wife says that all the time he's like you're never separated from that phone like I get up from side of the bed I pick it up and go to the bathroom because I'm like oh I might want to play a game or I might want to look up some information or I might like there seems to be a human need for data at all times now we've trained ourselves to have data or fingertips we no longer sit there and go what was that person's name now you're just like oh I'll look it up yeah so a lot of our thinking is

194:41been pushed off to to technology that we've created so we feel comfortable with it going like well you know we're smarter than that and it keeps getting better yeah and faster dude think about it like all those body parts you're talking about them doing that's last what 20 years yeah like prior to that there was no like hey we'll grow you a new bladder hey we can we can put skin on you again you know it wouldn't look like that and like that so yeah what's going to happen yeah you're right in the next 50 years we're going to merge we're going to somehow there's this new Google Assistant that comes with the uh the Google pixel phone it's like their version of Siri but it's Superior because it's contextual so I could say like uh how old's Kevin Smith and they'll say Kevin Smith is 46 years old what's he working on these days like it knows I'm talking about you I'll say

195:25what's he working on these days Kevin Smith just produced a movie it's called yoga hosers you say that about like Grace Smith my mom like no I mean it have to be out on the internet like all the the data and details but like say wanted to my mom's always on the Cru and Craigs List trying to get okay what is Craigslist it'll tell you Craigslist is this is it how many people on Craigslist are selling drug well we found approximately 5,000 it's it gives you like contextual make it much easier like look I'm looking to have the girlfriend experience how many people in CRA that's for sure G to happen well if you could get like sort of you know how Bitcoin has sort of uh enabled people still happening Bitcoin oh yeah oh yeah yeah yeah don't you ever say that around Andreas Antonopoulos going furious at you yeah we have this guy he prefers not to call himself

196:14Bitcoin Jesus cuz he doesn't like how the story ends he likes Bitcoin Buddha feels like it's better leads to Enlightenment didn't they have a problem like somebody hacked their account or something like that oh yeah well that's that's well there's a long conversation if you want to go with that no no need but but it's still happening that is actually an exchange that got tapped into was the magic the the Gathering exchange right that's what it started out as you know that game magic the Gathering started off as that and then during that time people started trading Bitcoin on that when it was nothing and then that Bitcoin became worth hundreds of millions of dollars and then they got robbed so all the Bitcoin got stolen out and this guy got in trouble because he ran this site that he was never no no one had any idea that it was going to be worth hundreds of

196:54millions of dollars and that this guy would lose it all so the whole thing was like a really crazy and sort Affair but the the spirit of Bitcoin is that you and I can exchange money for services right with no third party just you and I no Bank yeah like you want to buy this computer I say sure give me x amount of Bitcoin and you send it to my phone all right cool we got a deal and then you're done and this this idea I mean if you could get to the point where you're you're talking to your phone and you tell your phone you know to order you a pizza and pay for it in Bitcoin and it's doing everything digitally and it's Bitcoin or Bitcoin like when you eat it's Bitcoin when you're buying it's Bitcoin what is it when it's a hooker Bitcoin ah that sounds racist some will have the coin but not everyone will have the Quan what was the Quan it meant like love respect everything I don't know what

197:46does that package what does that mean remember Jerry McGuire man he was always talking about the he said uh it was the full package it was love money respect endorsement I don't know but it was a bigger deal than just like all right but go back to bit Bitcoin so it's still going on oh yeah yeah yeah there's some people who love it yeah I like buy Compu with it very Democratic way to it's my money why do I have to go through this this this and I understand those institutions and FDIC is all built to protect your money but also seems engineered to keep your money and get your money and take a percentage of it as well I have the weirdest abstract take on cryptocurrencies okay I think that ultimately all money will be digital and since digital and since money if it if it all becomes digital like that money is basically information and the the one thing that's keeping

198:40people from each other like the re the one thing that separates us is the barrier of information like I can't read your email emails you can't read my mind you can't see my pictures you can't you you can't know everything that you can possibly know instantaneously there's like this barrier and that barrier is all information right it's all trying to get trying to get like writing what what has someone written uh what is h what is all the scholarly work on you know astrophysics what is all all that stuff like the barriers between us and those things are slowly being removed like there's more and more like if you went on the the the internet in 1996 and tried to get an education you'd be a like have that education you're not gonna learn but now like you can legitimately get like a full college education online plus you can read a million different papers on all sorts of

199:32different things especially if you want to pay for them on all sorts of different studies and get smarter online than you could actually in a classroom you could almost never run out of things to absorb almost never run out of information and I think that that's the one thing that techn ology seems to be embracing is closing the gap between people and data closing the gap between people and information well eventually that money is going to be the only bottleneck to be reading each other's minds there's going to be like what there's what what money is if it's Bitcoin or if it's digital it's a one and a zero it's just a code so what's to stop me from getting into that code what's stop how come I can't get that code well that's somebody else's oh okay like what what does that mean like what does it mean is it information like what is it can I get it can I copy it no if

200:18you copy it it's no good oh okay so it's a finite resource well that's ridiculous because it's not we're not talking about oil or water or rocks or minerals or or Metals we're talking about some goofy numbers you've got on a goddamn commuter it's in it's information it allows us access to resources like we should all have access to all the information and then it's going to be some weird merging of digital Minds some sort of a hive mind system created by something like Google or some company that figures out a way to allow people to communicate thought to thought and it's going to have money attached to it all of it it's going to Big be a big soup of information that's going to be the breakdown the breakdown is money why why because it's information because if money becomes inform this is obviously super Stoner talk go ahead but if money just becomes ones and zeros what's coming what's

201:12happening with with Wikileaks with you know these uh these emails getting hacked data getting out uh you know Sony getting hacked all their data getting out all these people there's you the barriers are falling between people and information they said in the government right now our government there I love it when I say something and someone ND like like that's that's dumb dude they said that there are there's a deep need for hackers in this country there's not enough because everywhere else like hacking has exponentially increased over the course of the last few years by double the amount that it was and that's why you're seeing things like they took down Sony they took down this one they took down this one so yeah I lately I've just been like do I really want to have all my world online I'm I go the other way where I'm just like well how do you protect that stuff how do you protect

202:04well you think you'll be able to for a while but I honestly that you can't well the trend is clearly going to the cloud like if you look at these goddamn new Macs they don't even have a slot for a USB like a like a a thumb drive scary they don't have a DVD player there's no other way to you have to do everything wirelessly like wow this is weird so you have a very minimal hard drive the hard drives of the new MacBooks are smaller than the old hard drives they've made them smaller so it could be lighter or more comp it could be lighter more compact but also you're not storing on your computer anymore they want to throw everything up on the cloud you're like oh man where do you stand on that it's fascinating because on one hand I think it's inevitable on the other hand I'm digging my heels in the dirt I'm getting dragged along that's I got off the Apple tit I got a Windows 10 laptop

202:55why two terabytes of uh storage two terabytes you can't put movies any Mac whatsoever you could it cost you a ton way more do they does this operate smooth it's great Windows 10 lovo pad people need them for business they if they broke down all the time it just just assumed like they had to be better now so I said I'm going to give it a try I've only been using it for a few months zero problems super prior to this the whole time for like years since um like the 90s really you are you one of those cats that you know when at all collapses you're going to be fine I'm you're no you you've unplugged and gone off the grid before anybody else you've thought about things that most people don't think you have big thinks you don't just smoke and be like damn it Life's good you you smoke and go deep on the big think on stuff that like like like you pointed out very few people do

203:51it's usually Stoners that the big issues are that we all think of the big issues are nothing compared to like you do recall we're hurdling through space on a rock yeah spinning anything can happen and you're worried about this or this orense you know you gender identity pron Netflix or something like that yeah small to even the big things that people are like this is everything in life yes so you do the big think on everything beyond the beyond the obvious beyond the temporal or the daily you're going like what's next what happens 10 years from now um what happens to us not just hey what happens to me because that's very human nature to be like what happens to me but your thing is what happens to us as a species you're you're a thinker and a Seeker that's what I always like about you man you're not content to just be like I think I know everything there is pretty much to know

204:44that I'm interested in the rest I'm really not interested in you you refill all the time I met a priest once when I was a kid and uh he said not when I was a kid when I was like a grown ass man I was 20 something it before I wrote Dogma it's when I went out to film School in like 92 in Vancouver and I was in Washington state my uncle lived in Federal Way and so I was like you know what I'm going to go to my uncle's and then go up from there you can drive me up drop my off and stuff um and I never really left my side of the world let alone New Jersey and stuff so uh at one point I was still struggling I was it was the end of my Catholicism as I knew it in childhood though I just believe everything they tell me and stuff so I was having some troubles with it and I went into I was walking around and I wouldn't call myself an emo kid but like I still was

205:34raised in it when you believe something from the moment you're born like you know all the tenants of the Catholic faith uh I was an alter boy even for having seak you you know when that moment comes it's almost like the adult version of when you know your parents are like there is no Santa Claus you sp where suddenly you're like what you upended my entire existence so I was going through that and I'm age 22 at this point should have gone through it in high school but I held on to mine a lot longer so I walked into this church and uh I sat down and uh priest came by eventually younger priest he's like can I help you and I was like oh I'm just having a crisis of faith and just sitting here and praying and meditating on it and stuff he goes come come in the office we'll talk I went into his office and he was like what's the issue and I was like I believed in this so much

206:24when I was a kid like it it wasn't even a matter of belief this was the truth I said but now I'm of this mind that like you know what we follow this Bible and it's supposed to be the word of God but like thousands of years ago there were a bunch of people that followed a bunch of other books that said there were multiple gods and now we read those books and go isn't that quaint these thought thought there were 12 gods one for each thing that ever happened in the day I said I'm afraid one day that like they're going to turn around and say the same thing about our book is this like I just don't believe like I believed when I was a kid and the priest said something really smart I stuck it in the movie it was so smart he said well he's going when you're a little kid think of yourself as a small glass you're very easy to fill up he's going you put the liquid in you you're

207:10done it's easy to top off a small glass he's going the older you get the glass gets bigger and you can't expect the same amount of liquid that filled that small glass to fill the big glass and I was like what do you mean he's like periodically you got to refill the glass now he was talking about faith and but that goes for anything even goes for intellectual uh intellectual uh uh Pursuits or just the person who's the Seeker who who's not content to just be like I see it all as it is and I think I understand it now you always understand there's more to understand and you go looking for the not just like hey that's kind of up and interesting but what's really ultimately important if you scrape away all the stuff that we kind of concern ourselves with the you think about like you know and again this is just from listening to some podcast and mostly looking at your

207:56Instagram through it is that's like useful if it all went away and it's not just like you know I know how to live off the land and stuff you're thinking big think about where the Mind goes you like most people look like you strong and like that don't think nearly as much as you think I know that's a stereotype but it's true you can't develop one set of muscles and concentrate on another generally speaking you either concentrate on building your brain building your body you found a perfect way to build both I think you'd be surprised what do you mean no you're Jitsu guys yeah but especially Jiu-Jitsu guys I know a lot of really really smart Jiu-Jitsu guys of course a f a fat man stereotype to be like all muscle heads must be dumb that's the only thing I got in this do you know Josh whin is he's the guy from uh he was the the inspiration for the movie Searching for Bobby Fisher

208:45American chess champion he uh became obsessed with jiu-jitsu now he Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt under Marcelo Garcia like one of the most respected Brazilian jiu-jitsu practitioners of the last good at two things chess and Jiu-Jitsu and that's unfair he a bad this guy and he's a chess master and he's just a brilliant brilliant Guy and um I mean but a killer like if you got a hold of you he'll choke you to death for sure but only if I did something to him yeah but I'm saying like if he had to if he wanted to I mean he's he's not just as genius a genius and a killer he's smart and he's he wouldn't probably never describe himself that way he's a martial artist you know and but but his ability what he can do his specialty is strangling people I mean that that's what comes from Marcelo Garcia Marcelo Garcia as a a black not like you you would know this but Marcelo is famous for his chokes

209:36he's like a famous strangulation artist like he's had some of the most spectacular highlights in the history of competitive uh Brazilian jiu-jitsu just choking guys unconscious it's an animal never killing them just taking no it matches two black belts go at it you never you've never seen we we had this conv marelo Garcia versus Shaolin hio this is a perfect it happen so quickly UFC match in person well you don't have to see a UFC match cuz this is probably something more interesting for you to watch cuz no one got hurt even though it looks like the guy is dead he actually just ch the blood stops the brain and then he lets it Go and the guy's instantaneously back like it's not like a knockout you don't suffer brain damage watch SC Marcel his and he on to the choke and shin to squir out of it but he locks in the choke and now Shin's trying to fight gallantly but he goes asleep

210:26he's out cold here and the referee stops it as soon as they realize now he's out cold so Marcelo gets off of him and walks away and Shaolin wakes up like just a second later so he's 100% fine he's just like whoa what happened he starts talking it's not like he got knocked out it's not like he got brain damag he just got choked on conscious like he'll be instantaneously fine but Marcelo is just have you been choked out never totally out but I've gotten super close I've gotten to like the elevator door is like closing in is that literally what it feels like it feels entirely like the walls are closing in like the darkness is coming and you like barely can get out of it I've gotten to the door I never went totally asleep as you're going to the door you're also smart enough to be like I'm not dying I tap yeah you tap you got but do you panic like is there a moment of

211:17panic where you're like yes yes for sure yeah yeah that we saw like that dude was like he was like that goat picked up by the eagle he's like before it was over but then the thing about Jiu-Jitsu though is those moments happen a lot so like if you go to a Jiu-Jitsu class it's very likely you might get choked out three four times by one person like if you roll with some guy who a Brazilian jiujitsu black belt and you're like a blue belt pretty likely he's going to get you at least a couple times while you roll with him unless you're like really agile and really good at defending yourself and you what CH they closing off your windpipe ories your cored they're literally like closing the blood supply to but how dangerous is that not not only if you keep it on if you keep it clamped on like how long a minute probably kill somebody that's what I'm saying so like they have to be you have

212:07to be like a surgeon to be like I got them for 30 I'm let go well I would like to find out like how long would you have to hold someone well it depend on the person how uh healthy they were how young they were I'm sure would have a factor as well but find out how long would it take if you choke someone out before they died someone must someone wants got be there online right want speciic Google request that's going to bring the FBI here they're going to come but what if if you can do that with the body part I mean and you got to get a certain amount of Leverage on somebody kateed arter scius reflex death is sometimes considered a mechanism of death in case of granulation remains highly disputed the reported time from application to unconsciousness varies from 7 to 14 seconds that's wrong if effectively applied to 1 minute in other cases with death occurring minutes after

212:56unconsciousness so if you held on for a couple minutes how long would you have to choke to kill to kill yeah that's is that from a forum MMA Forum they might not necessarily know but like it's on the internet it must be true let's read it and believe it yeah forums bodybuilding.com RS Technica that one is um maybe don't believe the thing about it is com they're super wrong right there when it says varies from 7 to 14 seconds it doesn't even take a second if you mean you could put someone to sleep in a second if you hit the right if you H if you just hit it right if you just hold on to it right especially if uh they're not resisting like if they're hurt already and they're relaxed you could just put them to sleep if like if you if someone gets hit first and then they get choked and they don't they don't defend it quickly enough like if they're out of it and then they get

213:47choked they just go to sleep like real quick has anybody nobody's ever been choked to death no um I'm sure people have been choked to death not in just not in the UFC but I mean in the real world like that was the Eric Gardner thing well he had a breathing issue that was the guy who the police killed in New York they took he was selling loose cigarettes in front of AA and they get mad at him I thought we were still talking you were they killed him with a choke Brazilian jiujitsu but you were talking in real life yes yeah but I'm saying you can choke someone to death but but I don't think they I I think he he died more as a like he wasn't physically very well about 3 minutes is about the most your brain can last without air so three minutes without air yeah man that's crazy so that would never it how like basically he could have you for three seconds you'd be

214:34passed down then they let you go yeah yeah you Didu match yeah they would just let you go and in class sometimes people forget to tap in class or they don't tap quick enough and they go to sleep see I like the things you do but I zero interest in doing them myself like they don't seem appealing to me like every time I look at those pictures I'm like man he's living a cool life but I'm like I couldn't do that I could do any one of these things certainly could you certainly do it's an interesting thing to admire and envy someone's like freedom and life and still not want to do it yourself generally speaking when you look at somebody be like I wish I was like that you want to do the things they do or be the person they are but instead I can look at you and appreciate what you do and who you are and never once be like yeah that's I'm that's what I'm goingon to do I I couldn't like

215:17you're into you're far too much of a man than I am you're such a dude and not a dude like you're a bro but you are like you're like it makes sense you're somebody's dad you know what I'm saying like you are when I think of a man that's what I think of and I don't mean this to sound like compliment I'm going to have a big head when I leave problems in life I Lov my dad but I think you would be a cool dad like your kids that's very nice your kids have a have a wonderful lifetime of them have had like great experience thus far it seems like but for the rest of their lives they're being raised by a thinking masculine man man like my kid will never have that ever in her life do you would you want to be different than you are though you seem super content with who you are yeah I mean the way I look at it is just like everyone's dealt the cards right like you know and you could

216:06improve some things in life but like you know like when we were young they'd be like that's your cross to bear when I was a kid you know I was always heavy and my mom would be like well that's your cross to bear you know as if like that's just something you're as if it was genetic as if she wasn't like she could have said hey let's get you working out maybe feed you less or whatever she's like that's just your cross to bear but you know the rest of your life is blessed and stuff like that she probably just didn't I mean a lot of people say things like that because that's what someone told them and they never stopped to think about it oh her mother definitely told her that you're cross to bear it was something that was just kind of passed on and my mom's a wonderful woman I just spent oh you know she's getting old and stuff and I I I took her to see Dolly part in Tampa

216:47and uh Dolly Parton I've seen three times in two months man she smells like she smells like cotton candy and baby powder in real life Parton does dude I I know here let me try to hit you always hit me to cool Dolly Parton is 70 years old she did a three-hour show she didn't sit in one place she moved all over the stage she played piano guitar banjo flute and then at one point she blew a saxophone which sounds dirty I meant now she didn't just blow a saxophone like I hadit a few notes she played Yaky sack which is like sa that requires some lung power she's 70 years old I took my 70-year-old mother to see her and like mom's got a cane and we had to get a people mover and stuff like that like she's it's crazy man so like I I took Mom to to go see Dolly Parton and my mother you know God love her she's amazing uh one of my favorite people in the world but you

217:39know she's like tiger you finally made it and I was like why and she's like because like we got to meet Dolly Parton I was like M you could have met Dolly Parton any old time life that is not a sign of like Prosperity or success or something like that like that happened back on clerks or something but those days when Dolly Parton was on TV there was only like three channels yeah you D she pull she FS Arenas like it's crazy massive and just watching somebody like you know I saw her I saw her when I went up to Vancouver to shoot an episode of The Flash I went and I was like holy and there's a part of me of course I'm not a big country guy but my old man loved country and western even though we came from New Jersey and we weren't even from like Southern Jersey we're from Central Jersey he loved country west country western I hated it growing up and he's now dead

218:26for like 12 13 years and naturally the older one gets you hear that music it takes you not to the present but right back to your childhood So lately even though I've never been a country person I find more country leaking into my life and it has everything to do with my father or something like that so I went to see this show and it was like I might as well have taken my dad with me he's been dead so long but like that was his dream show like he loved Dolly part he's a big country music fan in general but he loved Dolly Parton so I went to see the show The First Time CU I was like I got nothing to do let's go and then I was blown away by her Showmanship and a Storyteller as well she doesn't just sit there and play the music between songs she'll sit there and tell you a story about growing up in The Rocking Mountain she's funny dude I know she's got like patter she's probably been

219:06doing for years but she talks about she's like when I was a little girl like we went into town and they grew up poor and she's one of like 133 children or something like that and she's like I saw this woman this beautiful woman and you know she was painted like an angel and she had pretty clothes and real big pretty hair she's wearing heels and a lot of makeup and I said mom who's that and and her mom's like that's the town triop that girl is nothing but trash and she goes I said that's what I want to be when I grow up so that's why that's why she's got the look she's got she's like it cost a lot of money to look this cheap so she's that's hilarious I'm telling you dude she like it's a true like even if you're not like a Dolly Parton fan like what a true night of entertainment like and you just you could appreciate I saw her like last weekend I took Mom to see her in

219:53Tampa I once I saw at the Hollywood Bowl and then like a month ago and then I took Mom to see her in Tampa and that was more like hey Dad would have loved this you know but she had this weird moment where she met Dolly and like like you're talking about 27 yearold women and my mom like went in for a kiss not like like I want to French you but just like the way you would kiss a friend but and then you could see Dolly who's like had to politically maneuver strangers for 50 years or so figure out do I say hey I don't kiss strangers or do I just hug the lips we going for the lips I don't know what she was going for it was awkward dude there was a moment where they were expiring and then finally they hugged and uh you know she was like my husband loved your music and it's really beautiful to see wow but Mom I love mom to death but mom is like such a everybody's mother's

220:44very singular IND idual but Mom like had this thing I was trying to figure out I was like when did this person die I think we were talking about my Aunt Barbara I was like when did Aunt Barbara die and my mom's like oh hold on and she had this thing when we were kids like she'd get a calendar from church and she wouldn't write on it your birthday or a relative's birthday she would write the day that they died so like this day was the day Uncle Andy died this day Aunt Connie died so my mom keeps all that information so she goes hold on she comes out with a box of like funeral mask cards like when somebody dies you go to a funeral there's a little trading card that has a picture of a saint and on the back has a person's name and when they were born when they were dead my mom has like a collection the way you collect baseball cards and and we spread them all out on the table there's

221:2612 significant deaths in our family she had lots more but the ones that would matter to both me and her in our immediate zone of family and between 12 deaths I was able to quiz my mother like who died 1980 and she was like oh that was Grandpa Smith like she is my mom's obsessed with death but not like death is metal when she was a child in Catholic school they tried to explain hell to her you know like as you do in Catholic school and she was far too young to get the idea so death has been her Obsession her whole life staving it off stopping it from like taking not just her her but her family you know she lost her husband to it we all death is just a natural part of the process out but my mom finds it like she's terrified by it now I as a as a creative person and I wonder if you feel the same way and I fancy myself a creative person some people like you're

222:16not very creative but I fancy myself a creative person no caveats death to me is not scary as much as like a repugnant idea where you're like what stop all this like I I'm just getting the hang of it I'm just learning like I got so many more jokes to tell and like that like death to people who make stuff like us and that's why you might be the exception because you deal with death on a regular basis like with hunting and like that like it's just something that probably enters your purview far more than mine but it is like one of those things man where you're like wow I I didn't really thought about that too often but she is thinks about it often when I think of death I'm irritated by it because I'm like it's unfair like why like right but I imagine if I was like my grandmother my grandmother like lost her sight 12 14 years before she died and I loved hanging out with her I used

223:09to play cards with her and like that and then when she lost her sight like she did she was no longer interested in living so she would sit around and be like how are you Graham you go visit her she be sitting in the dark and listening to a radio maybe no longer crocheting like she used to do you used to play cards she couldn't do any of that so she just sat there wow and he'd be like how are you and she'd be like well I asked him to take me and he said he he didn't answer still not today and I was like who Graham she's like Jesus every day I pray that he finally take me and I'm still here and she grew slowly grew to be bitter about life and now from where I sit right now I'm the guy that's like I never want this party to end oh but I guess there could be a time in my life where you know everyone you know and love has passed and you just get to a place where you're like you know what

223:53I'm I'm okay like who was it uh the singer that that just passed uh uh was um the guy that's sang Allelujah Leonard Cohen I was gonna say Lawrence Cohen Leonard Cohen did an interview like before he passed like five months five weeks maybe before he passed where he was like yeah I'm ready for death he's going I've pretty much done everything I've wanted to do and I'm I'm ready for it and he went fairly short there shortly thereafter grandma didn't man she hung on for a while but wanted to die I hope I'm never that person but you know what if I'm something happens to me and I can't move or something it's like that movie Johnny got his gun and maybe at that point you started really taking care of your health yeah you a little bit late in life just cuz I was like oh I should I come from diabetic people my dad and all his brothers and sisters very diabetic and I've played for the my

224:45whole life as if that wasn't a factor I never ate vegetables and I always ate packaged food so I saw that movie Fed Up and that turned it around for me I lost like a bunch of weight cuz I stopped eating sugar this documentary was fascinating it used cartoons maybe that's why it worked on me but it broke down like oh this is what you do every time you put sugar into your body and I was one of those people that was like Documentary Fed Up I believe it was called um I was one of those people that's like well Sugar's natural comes out the ground so you know just like wheat and flour and vegetables I guess we it's okay for us you know it's one of those things where I it's taken me a long time to accept the fact that sugars much as I love it for me it's it's a poison it's it's like or it's like booze for an alcoholic like I can't stop I dropped sugar out of my life lost

225:3270 pounds then I let sugar creep back in slowly 20 came back so now I've gotten rid of 10 of it I got another 10 to get back to where I was and I remember being free of sugar and being like what a I was how you get back into it it's a slow it's a slippery slow Cy bar yeah a piece of chocolate starts with a piece of chocolate where you're like milk chocolate man I love milk chocolate I can handle this and then when I was working on the shows in Canada Donuts cuz they got Tim Hortons everywhere throw a rock and there's a Tim Horton they got those Timbits which are like Dunkin Donuts munchkins little donnut holes I like those Boston cream jammies dude I love when they take on top and the cream that shove jelly in that that's my religion oh I like a jelly donut too powdered sugar just oh my goodness do so soft I learned that I had to I had to cut it out I had to put

226:26sugar away entirely so I stopped eating processed or anything processed or added sugar no sugar whatsoever natural sugar like the closest sugar I get is out of drinking milk or beets I know I start drinking vegetable drink though something I never did vegetable juice so I'm a big fan of uh cold pressed juices that's what I've been doing like I too you can go and stop in and get them you could find out online like if there's a store near you and then once you know like for me I've got a bunch of them that I stop at like you always go and get something to drink that's like really nutritious and Powers you dude like before I and this is I mean it's no secret or or anything but here's a tip before I got to do anything requires a lot of energy or something like if I was going to go on the Talking Dead Or if I was going to go to the movie set or make something to do a

227:10show I get me a a big vegetable drink basically I get one whole beet eight fist fulls of spinach half a carrot half half uh I stopped doing so much apple CU a lot of sugar in it so about quarter Apple big nubba Ginger just burned to my insides out kids in 1920 were playing on scaffolding and we're scared of sugar from an Apple we're such we've become such was until now now I'm like I can't I can't have the extra sugar so I make that dude I drink that and that gives me like like and like Beats P natural sugar so you're like hey it's like I I've never done Coke but I imagine it's like what doing a line of coke I really don't think it's anything like that eating beets is like doing coke beets make me feel like uh well not just beets but like a good robust vegetable juice you feel like a o like you get a little you know that's one of the things I like about your Instagram

228:07theud you're you put a lot of food in there and you talk about like what it does for you and you're like look at this this is natural and I'm getting all this out of it's food porn yeah get mad though because it gets repetitive I get it what do you mean it gets repetitive oh what are you cooking elk again you you know that's what you get do you then stop and be like did you ever realize you're hurdling through space on a rock Anything Could Happen man I just think that I think it I don't bother saying it but yeah I get it but people always looking for things to critize also like criticizing yeah but it's like fun if if if you're eating elk again it's not like it's not a onetime experience where you're like I've eaten elk when I 14 and of course you know that's when a man eats Al and never again they got to expect you might redo a meal if I give you some will you cook it what kind of

228:52meat is it elk yeah how do you cook it I I'll teach you I'll show you how I'll give you some real simple I'll give you elk bur this thing yeah I'll give you elk Burger that's the simplest make cheeseburgers out of it you just got to treat it tast tastes really good it's it's super healthy for you cuz I mean no hormones no antibiotics no nothing it's just wild elk meat it's very lean and uh if you cook it like as a cheeseburger you have to kind of cook it pretty quick because it doesn't have much fat in it at all it's really it's really lean protein yeah very high protein content so cook it quick meaning like it's going to burn fast you don't don't cook it maybe as long as you would like a real fatty beef burger you know just cook a little less time what's uh I think the last time we talked we talked about that like the idea of you'll go out hunting

229:39but you eat what you what you bring back or whatever yeah I eat everything it's um Zuber that one year was like I'm only going to eat I kill yeah I me and for a minute we were all like that's Savage and then afterwards we were like oh I see I'm not doing anything we're all doing if we we eat meat that's my point is that like if you're if you're buying food from a store or restaurant you're you're killing it you're just killing it with a card a credit card or a checkbook or if you're eating meat you're killing things yeah you know you might not be doing it yourself but my whole take is that if an animal's Wild like that's in in that wild animal you kill it like that thing was wild I mean it's it's it's whether you ever existed or not that thing did exactly what it did that's the Pure Life for one of those animals and you're saying well why would you want to hunt it down and kill

230:29it something's going to like this is way you don't understand these things are not they're not going to live forever they have a very short and brutal life and they usually get taken down by Coyotes or mountain lions or I mean when when a person comes in and shoots a a deer that is the best death it's ever going to die if a person doesn't do it that thing freeze just like you know I died in my bed at age 80 no they freeze to death surrounded by my loved ones they freeze to death they get hit by cars like I want to can I make this more clear they freeze to death yeah they don't live they don't live very long if a deer lives to be like seven that is an old deer really oh yeah so if people are upset with you eating any kind of animals at all they're not going to understand why you would be upset at hunting but my my uh kid is total vegan great kid about

231:15though she's not like you know judging me as I sit there and eat meat and but she's you know her thing is like she loves animals and B what does she do to supplement like her essential fatty acids and vitamin B12 great question because the diet I've seen for a vegan now I've been around it quite a bit is insanely limited like like when I pull sugar out of my diet suddenly like you're down to 20 things because everything's got sugar added into it when you go vegan and not just vegetarian I like straight up vegan there's like you know everything green and maybe three other things in the world like you can't even eat a bagel without being like did you use this or this or this or something like that can of eggs which is really unfortunate because eggs are never going to be a living thing that's what people don't understand I could understand if you're against factory farming but I

232:06think that's a different story like I my chickens are pretty free range they're they live in a Big C coup and I know a lot of people don't have room for Coupe but I'm not saying you need to do it but what I'm saying is you can have chickens that exist in in some sort of a natural environment it's not entirely difficult and they give you eggs that you don't have to worry at all about anything bad happening this is just a natural product of being a chicken they lay one on their own it's not fertilized and no one's going to eat it but you not every egg becomes a chicken no no no no no they have to get the rooster has to come along sling that dick that's what makes it chicken yeah so if there's no rooster then I didn't know that dude I didn't know that until was like 39 years old me me too I didn't know that I mean I think you told me last time a version of this but the I'm a

232:50repetitive I will repeat dude I like reading that you eat elk more than once um wait so it's kind of like a chicken's period yes a matter of fact Peta developed a whole campaign to try to get people to stop eating chicken eggs by call calling it a menstrual cycle and also showing a frying pan with a bloody maxi pad sitting in the frying pan I don't know if that's very effective dude I mean it would gross me out turn me off but I'd be like pull up I never I never want to eat a tampon again it's foul it's foul that they chose to do this my kid doesn't get like shitty or or political about it or like you know in your face or you got to live my way and stuff but every once in a while it slips out I'm a big milk Drinker and so you know she's uh her whole thing is not your mom not your milk and I was like what do you mean she's like well that's it's not your

233:44mother you if you want milk you should get it from your mother that's you took some of the baby cows and I'm like oh come on don't do this to me kid I was like they raised us to believe in milk I watched a lot of commercials milk does a body good they taught me that on television don't tell me that I'm taking milk from a baby cow she's kind of right though right yeah were you down on milk cuz I saw your every time I talk about milk people put up the little meme there's picture of you talking on stage and they put up a bit of your routine we talked about right before the show oh that vegan yeah where you're like they say Vegan can say you know no we're the only species go ahead do it J we're the only species that drinks the milk of other animals I'm like you know what else only humans do fly planes make movies call each other and tell each other how awesome milk is MIL

234:30is um so you do I heard is eggs come from chicken menstruation look at that oh say was a bloody underwear I'm sorry I thought it was a maxi pad but that's a real P to add they put a bloody pair of women's underwear oh my God the tagline is don't eat eggs period and period is in red wow this like come on the what what's gross is factory farming that's what's gross what's gross is having all these chickens packed and stacked into these horrific cages and warehouses that's what's gross right what's not gross is a chicken living in a chicken house that occasionally lays an egg and when they lay an egg then they just wander off and they just wander around the yard and packet grass and do chicken stuff cuz that's if a chicken is living in a healthy environment they're not even scared of you like I go near my chickens all the time I can pick some of them up some of them don't don't

235:22with it they won't let you pick them up but if few they do if you try to pick you have to chase them they don't try to go after you but they don't want to be picked up but some of them will just stay there and you pick them up and you pet them and my girls will hold on to them they all have their own little personalities are they dirty no they surprisingly they don't feel dirty you know they take dust baths though but their feathers I think can brush off a lot things you know I think they they keep themselves fairly clean just by whatever the composition of their feathers are they're interesting little animals you eat the eggs do you eat the chickens as well no I don't eat the chickens no um that just feels up I agree but I mean but so do you but do you eat chicken in general yes I do but just not those chickens I just don't eat those so it's like Animal Farm some

236:04chickens are more equal than others yeah these chickens get a pass cuz they're they're within my control do you chicken in front of them not in a shitty way but hey it's chicken tonight ohe we killed the chickens in front of them we put them on a fire in front of them we set the fire up in front of the chicken K oh holy I was like oh my God imag if look at this that was what uh Vlad the Impaler used to do Vlad the Impaler that Mary Shelly based not Mar shell Mar shell was ster stoker Bas Dracula on that Vlad the Impaler guy would eat people in front of other people he he would why just to crazy killer lady made me look up earlier that's what one she she made one of her victims eat cook and eats Elizabeth yeah yeah herself a little girl I think is what it said oh my God she was a monster how do how do you how do you cook and eat yourself to make someone cut a piece off of their body oh

236:57F that was what uh Vlad Vlad did that as well he also put people on staks in front of his house and he would eat lunch while he was watching them slowly ryther it's like what when someone has a steak through their body it doesn't kill them like right away they can punct you with the steak and the steak is as long as they put it through the right spot although you have like massive internal bleeding the steak kind of keeps it all in there staes the yeah it's all stretched out and and and your body is kind of like if they stick it in you the right way it takes a while to die like you could you know could take hours so they're sticking this literally through your and out through your back that's how it went in I thought about through your Center I mean they could do it a bunch of different ways they never show you that in any of those Dracula movies like put that put the

237:44steak right through his now stand it up I mean maybe they go through a lung maybe they go through one side and go through a lung but either way there's ways they can do it where they would put you through staks where it take a long time for you to die so these people would all be moaning on steak these steaks are probably going in dry too right oh yeah they don't Loop that up at all and these these people were moaning you're going to die on a steak going through your first and up through your body but the good news we have some lioc can it's pretty slippery we're going to spray the outside before stab you with this gigantic steak oh God man that's tough to well this is a real human I mean that was a real human that really did live yeah look at this this is the ancient uh pictures that were mean these are from a long time ago these images some wood Cuts yeah yeah he's just like right

238:31on and he's s sitting there eating while these people are on stakes in front of him and of course you know you have to tr sort of process like how much of that was myth how much of that was folklore how much of it was real what was the point was that him there too what was the point Jesus well he was just a he just wanted to make sure that everybody knew he was a bad and if you uh it wasn't like live forever well he became it's it's so hard whenever you're talking about people and you you like definitively describe like who they were and what they were and you know how history just gets so twisted and distorted especially back when there was no videotapes and no you know looking at drawing going like wow yeah I mean how many of those people were even writing things down how many people could even read back then how many of those people actually saw that was probably passed

239:17down like I was in this Village and I saw a bunch of people on sticks and like I'm going to draw that like what year was that Vlad the Impaler 1448 to 1476 somewhere in there good luck 1400 Good Luck Good Luck saying exactly what that guy said or exactly what that guy did good luck we can't even decide how many illegal voters uh kept our darling Donald Trump from the popular vote yeah I think my big takea away from the day of the little people that was weird right that's I had no idea I mean I know there have been like like uh well I thought there were pygmies and stuff like that but that's like that's that's a totally completely different species of yeah smaller brains smaller like chimp siiz brains so it's not pictures of homo Floren Flor enesis I think it's called there's some better a few better images of them where they recreated what they think it looked like like look at the

240:10some of these pictures it literally looks like you know an innocent version of what they show you as a troll in in story books and old pictures look at that one right there the one that you just passed Jamie with the on the top row with the spear and the animal on his shoulder look at that if you I think if you go full image there a full image see over there you can see what it looked like yeah see that's what they believe these things looked like like sort of semi chimp like humans that were 3 feet tall but they had tools what do you think the discussion was on like do we give them a dick like yeah everything's got a dick not everything's got a dick but some things have a dick put a dick on it he like come on from everything else his Dick's in the shadow they're like put a dick on but don't make it look too big his dick is wrapped up in a riddle riddle it's a mystery it's a

240:53mystery wrapped up in a riddle inside and an enigma dude I got to end this I gotta out of here yeah I think we I like conduct these things with you like a uh like a Springsteen concert let's see who drops first you the audience I think today I have too many I have three sets tonight what do you mean what are you doing three sets at The Comedy Store oh really I got yeah there's a belly room show main room show and an O show OHS yeah one starts in an hour I got I got to do go my friend this is very fun this is awesome we got to do it again sooner rather than waiting four years or three years or something for sure brother always a pleasure man you my mind we have these fun conversations but I think we spend so much time complimenting each other CU we like because we don't we then we can get deep we can go out deep on other things not each other yeah because if we compliment each other like

241:43every time people would be like these guys are super gay for each other yeah to be fair though we've only done it like every four years it's not close enough for people to make the assumption that is this our third I think so I think I did one with you I did one with at our house and I think or one at our house first then with you and then this is the third no this is the fourth then cuz I think I feel like I've done your house twice then okay then you did the first time you did with me and the wife then maybe you came did one solo with me and then we did one solo with the last time we did one you showed me that cool treadmill type de thing you had standing with the standing desk I was like oh that's genius you have to walk and type at the same time you're sitting there working that's a that's a sweet move that's a very like a year and a half I think I used that and eventually

242:26the tread started slipping so I'd be walking and oh that one time I hit my chin on the desk and the desk was down here so I had to go like this far and I was like you know what you sue those maybe we were meant to stand at a desk or walk but never at the same time don't quit now get back on that I say ramp it up put it on an angle so like you have to hike like you're hiking up there you're to the extreme I'm lucky to walk Old schoy English running shoes on running in heels and yeah man all I need is a hat with a buckle on I look like a Pilgrim thank you sir for having excellent I really appreciate this friend keep let's defin we keep saying this but let's try to do these regularly let's try to do these reg they're so much fun I agree Kevin Smith ladies and gentlemen you clear