Jamie Foxx
Guests: Jamie Foxx
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Did something. Gotta find something though, right? Gotta find a struggle. It's very important to have a struggle. Gotta have something you gotta accomplish. Are we live already? Oh shit, we're live. We're competitive, baby. There's a little bit of that. What's going on, man? What are you looking for? Man, you. How do I turn the headphones? Oh. Over there. Which one is it, Jamie? Check. Right here. Check, check, check, check, check, check, check. Oh, he's in my ears. We're live. What's up? We're live, baby. You, man. How are you? It's crazy how we looked at each other when we walked in. it? I know. It is crazy. Like we wanted to embrace. Well, we did. You embraced, man. You've been. I wanted to lean into you. We've been at it, huh? It's been a long time. Damn, man. What's up now? Where do you go now? I don't know. Just try to stay alive. Keep moving. No,
you're doing it. You're doing it, man. I remember, whose ass you're gonna whoop one day? Whose ass you're gonna whoop one day and stand up? You called out somebody. You called out a motherfucker. Oh, you mean you didn't see him? Is that what you're talking about? I just got to get into that. We get into the crates. We got to get into the crates, baby. That was crazy when we was doing stand-up. It was like gunslingers. What happened with that? Nothing. You called him out, though. Well, that was a bad situation. He was stealing everybody's jokes. Am I bringing up the wrong shit? No, no, it's okay. Okay, because I thought I was getting the eye light. I tried to be nice. I thought I was getting the eye light. No, no, no. You're not bringing the wrong thing. You can talk about anything. You're Jamie Foxx, dude. You can talk about whatever the fuck you want to talk about.
Because the terrain we were just talking about off mic about how we would have been in jail. Yeah. Had there been social media back when it was coming up, we'd have life. We'd have double life. I'd be looking at you and myself. Yeah, you had to kill Carlos. Well, we were talking about everybody that came up in the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s. Everyone before social media, the wild lives that they led. You can't do that anymore. You can't do it. And what this conversation came for, for all y'all just tuning in, we were talking about Chris Brown. I'll see Chris Brown. He'll come out my house. And he'll just sit there and go, what the fuck? And I said, listen, you're just too talented for one. Cats like him and Justin Bieber who've been blessed with extra. They look good. They can fight. They're athletic. And they sing. They can dance. They can dance.
The first time I met Chris Brown, this is crazy. I'm throwing a party in Miami and it's me and Colin Farrell Eddie Murphy you know Eddie Murphy was still in it this was years back like 2005 maybe I think yeah 2005 and so I'm hosting a party we're in Miami the crowd's going crazy but in the down like not in the VIP it's some kids dancing I'm like who the fuck is that? and he's dancing you know all this shit and so my DJ DJ Ari goes yo man that's a new kid Chris Brown yo, he about to be the next one. I said, yeah, but he think he can dance because, you know, I know how to dance. I'll go fuck him up. You know what I'm saying? This young motherfucker don't know who I am. I'll come down and fuck him up. And it was like, Fox, okay. So I go down. Now, you know, it's sort of my time and so everybody's following me. I'm about to go battle whoever this kid is.
So I said, yeah, bro, you think you can dance, huh? And I did like some kind of bullshit, pop-locking move. Listen to me. We're all jammed together, right? He doesn't do a move. You know what he does? He does a backflip. But the way he did the backflip, and he's 6'2", he's standing in the middle of the crowd. He jumped over the crowd, did the backflip up here, and came straight down and said, What's up? I said, Motherfucker, I'm going to leave you the fuck alone. I don't know what the fuck that is. That's some Avenger shit. And I just remember going, I said, That dude, when he gets on, but then social media catches on. And then it's just hard. It's hard. it's hard to live when you're social media and I tell them all the time social media sort of makes you color inside the lines or try to or like this it makes you tuck your artistry in sometimes does that make sense? tuck your crazy in
tuck your crazy in, tuck your artistry in I didn't know what a meme was you know shit I'm a fucking I was just catching on the myspace and shit shifted so my my daughter sends me a picture of rihanna right going to the met ball and by the time I got the picture whatever happened the picture was rihanna and and in this yellow dress and I hit my daughter I said I love the dress is amazing I don't understand the pizza that's in it but you know maybe that's uh uh you know she's giving a nod to italy and where maybe she got the dress for her on and she's like no dad that's a meme I said what that's a meme I said what do you mean she said no there's actually not a pizza in the dress somebody crafted or fixed it there they made it look like it's pizza because oh because it's trailing behind her and so me I'm
thinking well what the fuck does it mean it's just no that's what I said so this girl worked a whole fucking night to get this dress to go to the Met Ball, which is you're supposed to be, you know, out the box, and somebody puts a pizza on it, and that's all you see is a pizza. I said, how do you compete with that? How can you be Michael Jordan? And kids run up to you and say, you're the crybaby fangs. You're a cryman. They're called a cryman. Memes are like the best thing on the internet. It's one of the best things about the internet. It's the best thing. But watch this, though. Once it sticks, that's what I'm saying. Once it sticks, it sticks. Yeah, I mean, Michael Jordan, to somebody under the age of 18, he the crybaby face man. Hey, man, I go crybaby face. Hey, man, and you know how fans do it. Hey, man, cry right quick, y'all. Yeah. Let me get you crying. It's so true. Yeah, man.
It's so tough. Well, we were talking about Jon Jones and how Jon Jones is fighting this weekend. about John Jones is a wild motherfucker. And that's why he's the greatest light heavyweight of all time. Because he's so, it's part of a, you have to have it. We were talking about being with Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson, back in the day, you couldn't, that's why when people say like, why does Mike Tyson, first of all, he's a fighter. He's not a tennis player. But Mike was a wild boy. And to hang out with him, you could understand like he was the biggest person on the planet. and he had the demons you know I'm saying and but he's fun too because because you see him in a club and you see he sees some girls and be like hi how you doing you like bmws the girls be like what do you like you like bmws like kod you like bmws and crazy he'd take the girls out and go get a bmw
I mean he was that crazy you know what I'm saying just come on come on let's look at the bmw and we open up the bmw dealership but he was wild but I say just like how we were saying off here you can't have that type of talent in that area and not have John Jones can't you can't you can't drink milk and and almost kill somebody you know what I'm saying you can't you don't let me get that homogenized I'm about to get no you can't yeah there's got to be something about you that's out of control impulsive wild dangerous and that's what makes him so great everybody you even talked about you look at the people on your wall you look at Hendrix, you look at Elvis, they have to have something because that's God fucking with us. Yeah. God's going to give you something incredible, but he's also going to give you something to anchor
that because I believe this is what I believe in. And you tell me if you believe this, I believe in the yin and the yang of everything. Meaning like when there's absolute light, there has to be absolute darkness to balance it out. And that's what everything that we do, it's sort of like, we're not going to get away with anything. Like anything that happens to you in life, you have to pay for it. Like I was, it's like the grocery store. Okay. I got the career. Boop. Got to pay for that. Okay. I got the money. Boop. Okay. I got to pay for that. Then here come the family. Boop. Yeah. I need that money. Yeah. You, you, you fuck me. I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going to release a story about you. So it's all of these different things that you got to pay for. And that's why you see these guys like that. Cause you know, like I said, talking to Justin Bieber,
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you know with everything I said some of this shit is supposed to happen to you it has to he can't otherwise the think of the success that kids had at 20 years old it's impossible I was just reading some shit about him canceling his tour yeah because he just said too much work I mean he's just going crazy I guess but he's made 93 million dollars this year yeah like Jesus Christ he's fucking 20 and yeah and for us we like shit because you know I ain't 20 I'm gonna take that 90 million I'm gonna go do a million but we can't be in his mind and we can't see how it is he grew up that way he grew up that way never had a normal life and you don't expect like I like I always tell kids who want to be in this business to please wait like even when my kids just wait wait till you like wait till you can understand like I was able to be grown and and have some grown shit happen
to me and just regular life should happen so that when this happened I still have a point of reference to get back to because you know like I know you've interviewed everybody this business affects you in such a way where you'll see one person one day I won't say the comedian's name but I remember a comedian back in the day did like half of an hbo whatever and then the next week I saw him he had 12 bodyguards and they were pushing me back I was like what the fuck man yo man yo no no right now He just got crazy. Got crazy. They get crazy. They get crazy. And I won't say the names, but there's been a couple of guys. I never get this one dude hit. And I went up to try to say something to him. And for some reason, he had a white suit on. And we were in a club. Why the fuck does he have this white suit on in these big shades? And I went to talk to him. And he said, not right now, man.
I'm rich. That's what he told me. In front of everybody. Not right now. They got rich. just let me be rich and famous right now I don't want to hear your pitch because I was going to pitch him something I said man you think you can get away and I was like wow and as he said it I had to sort of like okay but that's you know that's what happens but you got to be careful that tide goes in and it goes out and people come up and they remember they remember when you fucked with them and we've seen them but being a comedian we get we get a chance to sit in a different seat because we sort of, our jobs are observational. You know what I'm saying? We still all have our own demons, but it's just different. You also get humbled a lot as a comedian. Yeah. You got to get those jokes. You're performing in front of a live audience. It's all live. It's got to work, and if it doesn't work,
shit, you got to go back to the drawing board. You got to assess. Actors don't get a lot of that. That's one of the reasons why they're kind of shaky. More shaky. Yeah, right. They don't get a lot of like that testing it live in front of people, that humility that comes with that. You don't. And it's tough. I was talking to an actor, another actor. And it's tough because, see, I'm a comic who became an actor. So I'm cheating. You know what I'm saying? I can go do this and I can go. I'm going to be in St. Louis tomorrow, you know, doing some jokes. So I can, you know, I got to get my thing off. But just actors, it's tough. Well, you've figured out a way to balance three careers. You sing, too. I mean, you could do anything. You're a weird guy in that way. You got a lot of weird talent yourself. You're talking about Justin Bieber and Chris Brown.
You've got some weird ability to shift, too. But I've been fortunate in the fact that now things have opened up. Like, you know, back in the day, you could only do one thing. I will never forget, Keenan Ivey Wayans told me, he said, Yo, what's with the singing shit? Yo, you wander, motherfucker. I can't see. You trying to sing and shit? Or I would try to sing it for a girl. I'd be like, can you see that love is real? And the girl back, oh, Jamie, stop. You too funny in the face. Your face is too funny. I see Wanda singing to me. You funny. That's cornball. Stop. So I was like, fuck, maybe I'll never sing. You know? So I was doing, of course, the stand-up, you know, doing the Wanda shit. And then it wasn't until literally I was throwing these parties in my crib. And I would always throw parties for, like, musical guys. You know? So I threw a party for Puff. Puff comes and big parties.
It's like 2000. Puff is there. And it's all about him. And I'll never get, he got mad at me a little bit because I would follow him and I would actually follow him with a camera. Because at that time, Puff was the biggest guy in the world. You know, you couldn't even get in his parties. So the way I would get in his parties, I'd show up with a camera. Like, yo, Puff, you need to document this shit. And he'd turn around. What's up, Playboy? I said, yeah, let me get there, man. Ain't nobody getting this. And it wasn't back in the day with the camera phone. I had the big fucking cannon that you put on your shoulder and the light and the shit. I said, let me change the battery. Let me get all this shit right. So at one point I told him we were actually in Philly and he was throwing a party. He said, yo, playboy, this party's a million and a half dollars. I said, like, for what?
I mean, what are you saying? He said, it costs a million and a half dollars to throw this party. I said, oh, my God, I love it. The party's amazing. Yes, the mayor is here and everything. I said, but that's too much money. I said, you come to my place in L.A., I'll throw you a party for 400 bucks. that will rival this party. And he got a little mad because, you know, he was like, yo, no, I'm known for this shit. Don't front. I said, no, I'm not. I respect you. I said, but L.A., I just know how to get around. So he gets to L.A. And he calls me early in the morning. Yo, Playboy, make that shit happen. It was a Saturday. I said, cool. I go in on my phones. And by 12 o'clock in my small house in Tarzana, and God bless my neighbors that live there, I'm no longer there. I know they wanted me to get out of there because I was too much.
But the party's fevered pitch, and I invited the right people, you know the right girls who were beautiful but not too tight not too you know just everything was great the guys weren't no haters there you know because la you know man fucking fucking good no one of that it was the right guys and he shows up and when he shows up he goes that's the girl on that tv oh that's the girl in the movie I said yeah you're friends it's like we all hang out here so it's like you know it's all good and that's the girl I said yeah yeah I said but look at the party I said look over there on the table I got kentucky fried chicken but I put it in a nice plate I got coca-cola but it's just in a picture I said we're at 280 bucks right now and counting I won't go over 400 and he had the most incredible time right but at that party was all
musical people and I I did it for a reason at that party missy elliott of course she had her room everybody's going crazy with missy elliott I'm going to my garage and there's two guys a little guy like this and a tall guy the little guy goes yo b yo it's like this all the time b I said yeah who are you? He said, we the Neptunes. My name is Pharrell. I said, yeah, man, I heard of you. That's how long ago this was. Wow. So he's like, can I, I said, just go ahead and have a great time. There was another guy standing on the wall, green jacket, like a green little jumpsuit. Nobody was talking to him. Guess who it was? Who? Jay-Z. Nobody knew. I said, what's up, man? Yeah, what's going on? Great party. So, Jay-Z, you know, no one knows. And now, the way I got into the music, however, is that all these different parties was going on.
And I would have different musical people leave me music in my little studio that I built. I went and got this great studio built in the back of my house. And so one day, in comes this kid. Backpack on. Jaws busted. Who is it? Who? It's Kanye. Oh, his jaw is busted from a car accident, right? Kanye walks in. And I said, who's that? They said, oh, that's a new motherfucker, Kanye, man. He about to be the shit. I said, what do you do? Well, he produces, but he also raps. I said, well, anybody coming to my house, they got to perform. So I said, yo, man, they say, you know, you rappers. He rapped the most incredible, I don't know if it was freestyle. It was incredible. I said, I don't know why you aren't famous. He did it with a broken jaw? He had a little jaw. It was a little swollen.
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I don't think it was broken, but it was a little swollen because it wasn't too long after that accident that he had. And then he goes, I got a song. Dad, Dad, you will be good on I got this song, I know you could kill it I was like, me? Song? Goofy face? Wanda from 11 and Curly? He said, yeah I said, oh shit, cool So we go in the back I just got the studio in the back So he sings He says, the song's gonna go She say she wants some Marvin Gaye Some Luther Vandross So I said, I got it She say she wants some Marvin Gaye He's like, what are you doing? I said, well, I got to put the R&B on it. You know what I'm saying? I'm a real singer. You know, I've been singing. He said, don't do that. I don't just sing a song because it's hip hop. And I said, OK, cool. So I begrudgingly sung the song. I'm thinking, song's whack. He's not going to make it. So I went off. I did a bad movie.
I come back about six weeks, eight weeks later. That song is number one. My boy goes like, you remember that song you said? it wasn't shit is number one in the country and then that's how I got into the music so long story longer it's like yeah you can do all of the things and there's a lot of actors and actresses that can you just need those opportunities just like in life when you're when your opportunity comes if you prepare for it now you could jump into it and grab it and what I was told was by my guy breon who does all of my music he found slow jams he found uh goldic he found blame it on the alcohol he says you got to stop singing funny shit and sing a real record and once you sing the real record and not say it's you singing it now you got a better go so now after all of those years the people that grew up with me what doing stand-up or watching they they're
older and that are young folks it's like you the kanye man just like how you know the guys now going up to Michael Jones. So as I get older, you hope that you're blessed with opportunities. And you know, it's an old saying, but to sort of reinvent or reintroduce yourself to people who may not know who you are. Well, it's also guys like you have other interests. You have more than one interest. You don't just want to be funny. Yeah. There's a lot going on in there. It's a lot. You know, but like we all are, like comedians, we got a lot of shit that we want to get out. And like I said, being a comedian we have, we used to have. It's getting crazier. It's getting tough on us. As far as, you know, everything we say, you know, they want to come kill us. Right. I mean, I did one, I did Jimmy Fallon. One seating that Jimmy Fallon in, every organization wanted to get me. What did you say?
I was doing a joke, I was singing, we were singing these funny songs about who let the dogs out and so we took who let the dogs out and put it in like a um like a like a vaudeville or show tune who left the dogs out whatever it was right but beginning of that I sort of ad-libbed like I was watching these dogs and they were coming towards me and I was wondering you know who let them out and there was a pit bull there and you know you have to be careful because pit bulls can be cantankerous you know and then I go into the song the pit bull community was like Jamie Foxx Pitbull shamed us. Pitbull shamed? I'm Pitbull shaming. And then there was another thing where Jimmy Fallon was doing was doing some type of he was saying what was going to be on the next show and I was doing a bad version of signing which I actually know how to sign but I was doing a bad version of it.
You know sign language? I know sign language. We'll talk more about it later. You know, all those types of different things. But as I was doing it as the joke, I didn't know that the person that he was talking about happened to be deaf. Oh, no. Oh, my God. And so then, you know, so it's just all of these things. And I try to tell people, I say, hey, listen, we never mean anything bad. We poke fun, but we're not we don't mean anything bad. But you can't just you know, you can't you can't kill us. And because I got to keep doing what I do, you know, so it's it's getting tougher. Well, it's just what we're talking about, about social media, about people commenting on things that you can't read the comments. There's just too many people. Yeah. And people are always looking for something to be recreationally outraged at. Yeah, and the comments will get that ass, too.
The comment will hit you right where you are sometimes. Damn, this motherfucker's right. Well, it's good, too, though. A little bit. I mean, they're right when they're actually right. Like, someone can say something ridiculous about you, and if you know it's ridiculous, it doesn't mean anything. But if it's got a hint of truth, you're like, ooh. but when somebody says something about your teeth, you kind of look in the mirror. I don't understand. I got fucked up. I got, I got somebody hit me with the donkey. You know, it's fucking donkey. I was like, I start talking like, you know, I get crazy. So, you know, but I tell people all the time, don't read the comments. That's the book. Don't read the comments. Cause it will make you start to change the way you do things. If I read all of the comments, I never tell another joke. Yeah. If I read all the comments, I never try another, you know,
I got a movie that we just shot for a little or nothing called All Star Weekend. And the jokes are like all the way out there, you know, and it's I got everybody in it, you know, and we're all taking we all play different characters. Like I play a white racist, white racist cop. And how do you do that? I'll show it to you. I'll grab this thing and show it to you. But it's Robert Downey Jr. plays a Mexican. Gerard Butler plays a Russian who loves gymnastics. Benicio Del Toro plays this crazy tattoo artist, and we're all, you know, we're all doing our thing. So it's like if you read the comments, that'll make you tuck that in. But this is some brilliant, and it's a cool little thing, too. It's called All-Star Weekend for a reason. It's about two guys. One guy loves Steph Curry. The other guy loves LeBron James, and all they're trying to do is get to the All-Star game.
And it's sort of like this whole journey of running into all these people. So it's dope. But it is some things where it's like, ooh, you know, you can see there's going to be some shit going on. Well, Robert Johnny Jr., just from Tropic Thunder. Think about that. You can never do that anymore. You can't have blackface anymore. You know what? I'll say this. People have to understand where it comes from. There are real people out there that really mean you harm, like outside of us. I mean, there's some real people who really don't fucking like you, whatever you are, whether you're black, you're white, you're straight, you're gay, whatever it is. There's some people who really don't like it. We're the entertainment, and it's easy. We're easy targets. we're easy it's easy for you to jump on robert donna jr or jamie fives or joe because it's easy
you know when it's real things which you know whether it's politics or whether whatever a lot of times we we sort of we're not ready for that fight but it's easy to sort of pick the comedian I call robert I said listen I need you to play a mexican he says dude uh here's the deal sure fuck it sure why not fuck it sure of course you know mexican whatever but then he texts back and said, I'm nervous to play the Mexican. I said, well, shit, you played the black dude and you killed that shit. We're just all, you know, we got to be able to do characters. What kind of blowback did he get from playing the black dude? None. Because we fucked with him. Before The Wire, too, though. It was like, what year was Tropic Thunder? I feel like that was like 10 years ago. It was a while. But here's the thing. We fucked with Robert Downey Jr. Like, that's our guy. Like, I did his birthday party.
And my first joke was, how dare you take all of these roles from black people? You know, and everybody's laughing. So it's sort of like the entertainers, man. You got to give us room. You know what I'm saying? Like to play in it. I'll show you when I. Or you got to take that room. You got to take it. You can't worry about. I saw Chappelle somewhere. It was like, you know, they were asking him about his jokes. And he's like, yo, man, look, you know, people have said worse shit. And I think he said something about Donald Trump saying grab him by the pussy or some shit, whatever. But it was true. It was like the one thing that you look at what happened with politics this year, people sort of stripped away a lot of things. You know what I'm saying? Regardless of what you believed in, whatever person you voted for,
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it was a lot of things that were sort of addressed about like maybe we were playing things a little too close. Like some of those politicians were afraid to say what Donald Trump was saying, And they ended up being left in the dust because people were a little like, well, he's got a point in the sense that we're playing things a little too close. So when you look at that as a comedian, it's like, wow, you know, that was that was good for me. And that was good for me in a certain way. First of all, it's great jokes, too. It's like it does say, are we becoming too fragile when it comes to our race like black folk? Like I say, yeah, some people are racist and some people are perceptionists. You know what that means? No. The perception is, okay, the perception in America was the white man, Donald Trump, can be president. The woman can't do it. Perception.
Doesn't mean that if you vote for Donald Trump that you're racist. I don't think everybody's right because that was a big thing. Sometimes it's perception. I'll make it clear. Okay. I do a joke in front of all black people. And I said, black people are very interesting people because we deal with racism and perceptionism. I said because we're very nervous flyers right we don't like to get on planes first thing we do when we get on the plane we see who's flying this motherfucker we look in the cockpit if we look and see a black guy we will stop and go hey how long you been flying bro you got your hours with you and it was the perception and don't let a woman sit next to him oh shit we good it could be a bright sunny day it's like how's the weather oh we're good and then as you're sitting in that seat Anytime you hit a bump, my brother, we straight. Same situation. You go in the cockpit.
You see that white guy with that salt and pepper hair and those aviators and his forearm hair like this and a storming outside. Shit, fly this shit through a hurricane. So it's the perception that we have to talk about sometimes. Does that make sense? Oh, it definitely makes sense. Yeah. You know, there's definitely that, you know, like the Donald Trump thing's funny. You know who said it best? Alonzo Bowden. you know alonzo no funny comedian yeah he said he goes not all donald trump supporters are racist but all racists are donald trump supporters that that that could that he definitely awakened that side but I but I will but I will say this like I said the perception gets us all too yeah you know because like my my daughter it was interesting my oldest you know my oldest daughter like when when uh when the election happened and
And when, you know, the results came in, Dad, I'm so mad I can't take it. I said, well, we're going to go march. I said, well, did y'all vote? Not all of us, but, you know. I said, well, you know, you got to get out there because their perception was she had it in the bag. Right. You know what I'm saying? So you got to get out there and be, you know, whatever that is. Yeah, whatever that is indeed. These are weird times for everybody. You know, because I think social media is allowing people to express themselves. Yeah. Everybody's expressed themselves. And people are forming groups. You know, they're just like, you know, they're progressive or they're liberal or they're conservative. And everybody has a voice. Everybody has a voice. There's so much voices. I'll say this. Maybe you can appreciate this because we're living in two worlds.
We lived when it wasn't here and we lived when it wasn't here. It's discretion. Social media allows you not to have discretion. You're able to go in and type whatever you want to say. And that usually that's what we pay attention to. Discretion is this. We're sitting at the dinner table and, yo, I said something that you didn't like, but the discretion was I'll address that later. Right. So now that you don't have any discretion, anybody's voice can be heard. Not everybody. How do you say it? Not everybody has a point that we should hook all of our wagons to. What I notice is that we will hook our wagons to the most extreme point. And that may be only 2,500 people. Like when my homies would hit me and say, man, you hear what they're saying, man, about so-and-so. I said, how many views did it get? 80,000 views. I say there's 8 million people in Philly alone.
Why are you just listening to those 80,000 people? So you sort of have to put balance in the way you sort of sift through it. Does that make sense? It does make sense. Yeah. Well, the way I try to put it out to people, if you run into a room and there's 100 people in that room, what are the odds that one person is a fucking idiot? 100 percent, right? Yeah. One person. Almost every room of a random group of 100 people. Yeah. And I'm being very, very polite. One person. That means... Probably a few. Probably a few. but let's go with one one out of a hundred so that means there's three million fucking idiots in this country right just straight idiots right non-fixable idiots yeah yeah so if you're gonna read comments you're opening yourself up to that if you're gonna get your opinion swayed by people who just want to just want to see if they can affect you just want to see if they can fuck
with you they could touch you just see if they could change you get you to change the way you're Dressing. And that's what I don't like. That's what I don't like. So I tell all of my artists and all my friends don't change. Don't read it. Because what happens is everybody starts coloring inside the lines and now nobody's dangerous anymore. Right. Because you remember back in the day, Madonna dangerous. Right. Madonna come out naked, you know, just dance into the Grammys like it's all good. So what I hope will what I always say, just don't tuck your art in. Don't tuck your art in for the for the comments, because we'll end up not having anything, not having anything to celebrate. that is good. Like having something to celebrate. Somebody did a song that was dope or a movie that was dope or got outside the box as opposed to what we love celebrating, which is the crazy shit.
You know what I mean? Yeah, well, especially for comics. Yeah. Because it's one person. If you do a crazy movie, there's a lot of people involved. Yeah. If you're on stage and you say something fucked up, it's just you. Yeah. Well, I'm going back out, so it's about to happen. I'm going to be passing out a whole bunch of gift baskets. because I'm going back out and I, you know, like. How much time did you take off? I've never actually taken off because I still do gigs. Like, I got a gig tomorrow, St. Louis, you know, private gig, whatever. But it's just, you know, like I know, like as a comedian, you got to live. Like, I just can't jump out there and just start talking or writing jokes. Like, I've lived through some crazy shit. So I got to go out there and talk about that. You know, had I not, I'd be like, oh, because the one thing I hate is
the one thing that's tough for a comedian is to become successful because we talk from a shit is fucked up point of view and I gotta have a little anger and I gotta have a little poke fun and if I become that what if I become what I poke fun at then I can't get it off that's why at my house people come into my house my daughter used to ask me this dad why is this room not there's nothing in it I said I don't want to complete the house because it gives me a sense of like I'm still trying to get on like I don't everyone I don't put like all the pictures nothing is like perfect in my crib there's a curtain right now that's torn open in my bedroom what's going on you're not getting them checks man what's going on and I just I just gotta leave it like that I keep my house a little sort of we call it the dysfunctional mansion I'll talk about that the
dysfunctional mansion where there's always somebody like the other night, there's Odell Beckham in my house, battle dancing Chris Brown. You know what I'm saying? Like, who does that? Just crazy shit happening at my house all the time so I could, I have something to link my, you know, hitch my comedic wagon to. So you create chaos on purpose in a little bit of a way. I just leave it slight disarray. I don't remove myself from it. I don't remove, I don't get behind the gates. Behind the gates is the worst shit. behind the gates behind the gates when you get behind the gates when you reach a certain point and you're behind the gates you can't really see I'm out I gotta be out with the people I gotta have people like I had a uh a bet party right three thousand people at my house counted jesus people at the gate you know trying to get in it's and as I look through the party there's floyd
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mayweather all time y'all you know what's up jay fox what's up baby how you doing all time you got the great party I love you baby you know got to got the fight coming jay you know so there's floor there's fat joe there's little kim is on stage performing and then I look around and I see some of the homies like the real guys like what's up fox I just nice party right here cuz love it I'm like oh shit so it's all of these mixtures of people that I can still touch hang out with people from my from my uh community uh her name is anka she's like the uh unofficial mayor in our cities, old little white lady from Germany. And she's on the dance floor dancing with Snoop. Oh, I love Snoopy. He's great. The Snoopy is so good in the weed. I don't know. It's crazy. So I sort of keep it that way so I can stay loose. So when I go out, I got shit that I could talk about
from the hood to the White House. So you still manage to stay a regular person. Got to. But that's a hard thing. For someone who's achieved as much success as you have, that is not an easy balancing act to stay normal. Because you must get overwhelmed by requests and people just wanting your time and wanting to hitch themselves to you. But you got to look. I think what helps me is the failures. Like doing a couple of movies that don't. What was that? Right. Yeah, Fox. You know what I'm saying? Going through TSA. they don't speak to you your movie is out and they're like come on through they don't even make eye contact come on through alright good come on through damn the movie so or you just get the TSA damn Fox what you doing baby what was that shit this last shit dog I had to watch that shit on five stick my nigga you know what I'm saying like all that so it's like
you appreciate those right which keeps you regular keeps you humble and and you just gotta sort of look at other people and see how people in our business when they do get behind the gates you know you've seen comics that get that thousand mile stare and yeah don't want to I don't be funny no more yeah why'd you be funny no more that's how you came up I want to be sexy now you know they all fall into the sexy you know I want to stay funny keep the teeth goofy keep my head looking goofy hairline whatever it is because that's what I draw up on when I go out because people can sense it don't you think oh Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think stand up is kind of in some ways it's a like a mind meld or a massive gnosis Like you're connecting with the audience and if there's anything false about what you're thinking or what you're saying Some of them at least can feel it. Yeah
Sometimes all of them, but some of them can feel it and it'll fuck with the energy of the room But if you're in the groove, you're really being yourself That's why when you see Dave on stage one of the things about Chappelle is that he's always himself he can just be himself and so you relax as an audience member and slide right into his mind and he takes you on a journey because he's himself he's not he's not he's not disconnected by fame and celebrity and that way he was genius how he passed up all that money and just went to africa yeah and just settled in and then came back and didn't do any scheduled gigs for years he would show up with a speaker and set up a speaker in a park in like seattle and just gather a crowd around and start doing stand-up yeah see but that's what I'm saying it's like how do you find that
he figured it out wow he did it well I agree with that because like I said if you success can sometimes be our our coffin especially when you're like I said when you're when you're comic even all the way down to the way I handle like like uh like social media is interesting like and you know me just sort of brand new on it and what people view like I was uh and this is sort of off off off subject but I was uh just talking about how people view you I I went to the gas station and I put on these shades and then I took a picture of them I thought it was cool I was I needed some just pick up some you know 14 dollar shade whatever now put it on I took a picture with him and my instagram blew up like oh shit what's this I read the comments like man where you get the shades at man those little ferragamos gucci's you know what I'm saying like
what all those dogs hey let me get at it I was like wow it's just gas station shades but everybody thought they was you know something else and I was like man I don't want that I don't want them to think that I don't want them to think that I spent two thousand dollars because that's we always lose our fucking shades anyway right so I actually hit my boy davo and uh dave shottenstein I said listen I want to do a eyeglass they're like well what do you want to do you want to go I said no no I want to do an eyeglass that costs less than 30 dollars I said but what we're going to do is we're going to go through each frame and make sure each frame is tight like they're dope like amazing because I told them the story about being at the gas station and they were like wow I think that's a good idea so we ended up doing this whole line I went through all 200 frames
and we did this line uh it's called a prive revo right and everybody thought that it was something else 30 bucks 30 shades and now even j-lo bella thorne all these other people are wearing the shades because what we noticed when we did do that people embraced it a little more because we did a commercial that we almost made a mistake where we get clothes on and we tell people how much the clothes cost and people got turned off because the jeans were like $400 the jacket was $2,000. They were like, what the fuck? And we were like, no, what we were trying to say was although these clothes cost this, our glasses only cost $30. So that story in itself, I take that and around with that and say like I'm not the guy buying the high-end you know right stuff I want to keep it sort of cool and regular you know what I'm saying yeah does that make sense it does yeah
I know a really rich dude who drives a pickup truck he's rich as fuck and he just likes to drive around in a shitty old toyota pickup truck he likes it and why he do that because he wants to feel normal feel normal wants to feel grimy you want to feel normal he doesn't wash his hands sometimes got dirt under his fingernails, pretends he's a farmer. And can buy the whole fucking world. It's people who are weird like that, man. But we have to balance both because, you know, being urban, I got to step out there and shine sometimes, too. Like my boy has, you know, we get out there and we show a little bit of the success, you know what I'm saying, just to let people know we're still doing our thing. I love the expression, being urban. I'm a nigga. How did that happen? How did it become urban? What year was that? I'm actually joking. I'm black.
I tell people all the time, I'm an N-I-C-C-H nigga all the time. If I lose being that, then I got to have that. You know what I'm saying? Does that make sense? Oh, totally. Yeah. I got to have that. Yeah. No, I get it. You got to have everything. Why not? It's fun, too, right? Yeah, it's fun, too. But I got to have that part. I got to always have that sort of like a can't leave where I came from because that's what they try to snatch from me. That's why we did the television show. Chris Spencer and Buddy Lewis wrote this incredible script called White Famous. And White Famous was about a comedian who's, you know, trying to become mainstream without losing his, you know, his black audience. Which is all of us, we go through that. You know, because the minute you start doing the, you know, the sort of soft movies and brothers be like, man, what's up, man?
You don't cuss no more, motherfucker? Where you at? You can't keep cussing, you know. I think the problem with shining is when it defines you. The problem when you just, everything is flat, like Floyd Mayweather in a way. It's part of his persona. It's part of why people root against him. Like Floyd is a genius in my opinion. Not just a genius boxing. He's the greatest defensive boxer in my opinion of all time. But also a genius in that he figured out a way where he has this style that's not appealing to a lot of people. But what is appealing is people want to see him get his ass kicked. And it never fucking happens. Listen, listen. And you know, Floyd's the homie. Floyd comes by the house, man. And I don't want to put everything out there that he does. He's super, super competitive. That's what's amazing. But he also understands that. Yeah, Jay Fox, I understand what's going on.
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You know, all time, they want me to follow Jay Fox, but that's what keeps me competitive. You know, all time. Easy work, light work. So he would sit at my crib and speak for like hours about the business of it. trying to turn these boxers minds on like yo get your money you know I'm saying don't you know get your money get your business you know and then he talks about just what you said he says I know the reason that I fight oscar de la jolla on cinco de mayo is because they want to see the he he he he carved out a niche of being the the the the charismatic villain does that make sense yeah and he wasn't in the beginning he wasn't in the beginning he was pretty boy floyd mayweather and then he became Money Mayweather. Yeah, but had he stayed pretty boy, what? Who the fuck knows? Who knows, right? I mean, he might have been like Sugar Shane Mosley or something, you know? Wow.
But not really because Shane had lost to a few guys. Like, what Floyd did better than anybody is not get hit. Yeah, yeah. He's been hit like six times. Right, right, right. Like, really hard, like six times ever. Him and Zab Judah. Yeah. Zab Judah, his defining fight was the Morales fight when he fought Morales, God bless. It was amazing. And he also said that that hit the sugar Shane hit him when he'll tell you said I hit when sugar Shane touched him He said that really as she says shook me said what Jay Fox. I kill me Jay Fox I gotta kill me. He says that's why I dug in you see the end of you see the end of the round and the end of round He did turn it but he's he got rocked in that fight That was one of the few moments where he really got caught clean by a world-class fighter. Yeah, he got caught clean twice
So it'll be interesting this next fight coming up. Well Connor's not that level of boxer You know, someone, I forget who it was that said it. I think it might have been. It was Dale Hoy. Yeah, but someone was saying that he's got to, oh, it was Pat Miletic, saying that he has to almost cheat within the rules. And I think he's got to, like, fight in the clinch. He's got to, like, dirty box him. He's got to figure out a way to tie him up and manipulate him and move his body around. He's got to figure out a way to be good defensively, too. And he's got to hurt him. Those are all, like, high. High risk. High risk, low yield possibilities. Especially, the way I described it, how would you expect the greatest figure skater in the world to do playing hockey against Wayne Gretzky? Hi-yi. It's not the same thing. It's not the same. It's not the same thing. But it's fucking exciting.
I tell you that, I cannot wait. It's the greatest freak show ever. It's the greatest freak show ever. I'm waiting for that fight more than Canelo Alvarez versus Gennady Golovkin Even though that fight is a legitimate fight But I can't because it's gonna be some crazy shit some crazy shit. It's gonna be some crazy. Well also there's the mind fuck factor He's the Conor's the only guy that Floyd's ever fought that can look at him and go if this was a real fight You'd be fucking dead. Oh, and he knows it knows it everybody else Floyd's been able to fuck up He fucks up all of them. Yeah, you know like you ever see the video with him and Robert Guerrero right before they fought they they they had this um this thing where they were doing photo shoots and they had to do a stare who's this who's this robert the ghost guerrero is a fighter that floyd
fought maybe four or five fighters ago right and he just worked for 12 rounds beat the shit out of but he's standing right in front of him he's like you ain't gonna do shit he's like you're easy work you're easy work he goes he goes he goes I'm just gonna stand he goes no one has to get involved you're not gonna do shit he goes we'll get right close to each other you're not gonna do shit you're Easy work. And you could see the dude was just like, oh, no. Like, he knew. Yeah. He knew that Floyd was right. Right, right, right. Well, when Conor looks at him and goes, if this was a real fight, I'd fucking kill you. He goes, I'll do your boxing thing. It's a real fight. I'll kill you. Yeah. Like, he's right. He's right. Like, Floyd could say, we'll do some MMA. He said it a couple times. Next fight, we'll do MMA. He's not doing that.
But you know, Floyd, look, Floyd, one thing Floyd is, he's smart. Yeah. So he's got him on his playing field. So it's almost like you start to, like I know, but people start to go like, is Floyd nervous? I said, I don't know. But I'll tell you this. He's definitely allowing this guy to play through. And that fight is becoming bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. So it's like it's going to be great. And the one thing Floyd would always tell me, though, he said, Jay Fox. He said, the one thing they're not ready for is the lights. I said, what you mean? He said, the lights. When the lights are that bright and you look out and you see Denzel, you see all these, that's a different thing. I don't know if it was Hatton. I think he was talking about Hatton. He said, the lights, man. He said, that's the one thing I've been fighting, J5.
I've been fighting under the lights since I was like this. So it's going to be interesting. Yeah, it is going to be interesting. It's going to be crazy. But Conor fights under the lights, too. He's just never boxed anybody like that. that's gonna be a totally alien thing when he gets into that ring and he's got shoes on and he feels those big ass gloves on his hands and then he looks on the other side and he sees Floyd just moving around and getting ready there's gonna be a shadow of a doubt there's gonna be something in there it's gonna be everything Jay it's gonna be fucking everything cause you think about it they both I mean they got us I'm going to that motherfucker I'm going early those press conferences were amazing I'm already booked I was booked in DC that night in advance. I had already sold out two shows that night. I couldn't cancel. You can't come?
No, I can't come. I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to work it either. They wanted me to do something for it. I can't even do it. That's going to be the one. I got to figure out a way to not see it until I not know what happened and then watch it. I'm going to have to figure out a way. I hope the audience will be nice and not tell me. There's probably going to be people watching it on their phone while the show's going on. I guarantee you, if someone gets knocked out, I'm going to hear, oh! From the audience. What joke was that? Yeah, what happened? It was great, man. Yeah. It was great, man. It's going to be interesting. Listen, it's amazing. Yeah. Where do we go from here? I don't know. That's where we started. Where do we go from here? We just keep moving. We keep moving, man. You're obviously enjoying yourself. You're a happy guy. I'm having a good time.
For a super successful guy, you seem completely balanced and happy. There are things that you just cannot get away from that you hide right behind. But for the most part, I did some smart stuff, moved my whole family lives with me. So I don't have to worry about it. My father and my mom live with me. Oh, that's great. Yeah, and I was adopted seven months. So me and my biological mom are crafting our relationship now in the latter stages of her life. so you know that's you know but I didn't want but I didn't want no bullshit outside of that you know where someone is is is is sitting somewhere watching me from a distance like you know that you know so mom comes in that and they've been divorced for almost 30 years it's crazy wow so they live in the same same under the same roof it's hilarious that's a whole nother show wow
and uh he still dates you know I'm saying he's still getting it in you know be over there and And then she'll float over to his side of the house and be like, hmm, and see the girl. Hey, how are you? How are you? How are George? Who is this? Wow. You know, she's getting something out of her. I just want to get something out of the refrigerator. Some spoiled stuff. That's kind of intense. And then you hear that on my door. My pops. Could you tell her not to come on my side of the house? Shit. I'm like, now parents. You know, so, but it's certain things that I, you got to figure out your happiness. And the only way you figure out your happiness, you got to try to see or foresee what's going to be the problem. So I get my family close to me. So whatever problem we got to work out, we work that shit out right here.
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Get my mom and my sisters and my daughters close to me so they see daddy going to work like this. Still some work shit is like, no, we just not on the red carpet. And I just red carpet every day. You know, I got to get up. I got to go. You know, I got to talk shit. I got to kiss a little ass here. I got to do a whole lot of shit in order to keep this thing going. So you try to, you know, in life, you try to see what, try to foresee what's going to happen. It's still going to be something. It's always going to be something, just outlandish. But you try to get in front of it. That's an interesting way to handle it, though, to bring everybody close to you, bring your whole family in your house. Yeah, and not everybody can do that. You know, because, you know, it's like, you know, me growing up as an only child, I like having people around. I can't be by myself.
That's why I always would throw parties. I would kidnap people. Like people come to my house. I'd be like, why you got to leave, man? Chris Brown? Chris Brown, just stay, man. I got a room. Floyd, man, stay, man. Where you at? Because I just wanted people. But now having my family around, you got to do it. But like I said, not everybody can do it because it's interesting. Like my father, who has a great story. My stepfather has a great story. He was on drugs or had a situation, a bout with drug, bout with crack. Ended up going to jail. I wrote him one letter. I said, you get out. You know, I'll save your life. Because I didn't like writing letters to people in jail. I didn't like going visiting people in jail. He gets out. This was around just before 9-11. And then my stepfather was incredible in my life because he taught me how to play tennis.
So back in the 70s and in the 80s, he was like playing tennis. I was like, wow, I've never seen a black dude play tennis. He said, you got to learn, son. So people like Yannick Noah, Elie Nastassi, Bjorn Borg, Vetus Gerolitis, those were like heroes of mine. So he taught me how to play tennis. So when he gets out, he gets out of jail. I make sure everything is cool. I take him to the U.S. Open. And so there he is, me and my pops, watching Venus play. He's crying. I'm like, yeah, this is how we got to live. This is what we need to do. So he watches Venus play. And then a couple of days after that, it was 9-11. But he stayed with me. He's been with me since then. Early on, I would just go by, check the drawers, make sure there's no paraphernalia, no wrong shit. Smoke your weed. Cool. don't do no more than that and we've been cool since then and it saved a lot of money in rehab
you know what I'm saying so I'm just right there hands on well sometimes people just being surrounded by loved ones is enough to keep them from doing anything stupid yeah it can and it was bumpy at first won't go into it because he wrote a little book and talked about it it was bumpy at first because when he first got out I did some shit for him got him this got him a car whatever he relapsed his car gone he's back in you know so it was a couple little things that we had to work out but now you know to see him now like you know you know like uh you know we go to these different events or whatever like that he's his whole wall he old school he don't he don't do this the you know there he got the actual photos he go he go develop the film I got me a little film developed so he put the film and he developed the film see
and they put the film and he got a whole wall of everybody that he's met you know all of his heroes and uh so like I said you know I try to try to look uh try to be ahead of the curve when it comes to fucked up shit what about like when your creative time when you have so many people living with you and did you get do you ever feel like boxed in no that's you know like I know the best way to create is to have people around because I could try that joke out on them and they don't know I'm doing that joke you know I'm saying I could try this idea see how they respond because your family is going to give you the real, going to give them, that's terrible. That ain't funny. I don't want to see how you made it. That's terrible. You know what I'm saying? So you always got to, to me, having people around that tell you the truth. You know, like everybody in my family, you know,
they tell me the truth about it. I say, hmm, that's sleepless. I should have just stayed asleep. It's like, oh, shit, really? It was fucked up? Yeah. So it's like, you know, having that allows me to create, and then I have my own little space where I go, okay, let me get this. they responded to that, now let me put this together over here in a little space. So you have like a little sanctuary. Yeah, I got a little studio that I set up where I go in there and do all that shit, you know. But it helps. Well, listen, man, I know you gotta get the fuck out of here. You're only here for an hour, right? Yeah, man, but it's been great. Dude, listen, you're an amazing person and I'm very honored to have you on here because you're one of the very few people that I know that has this well-rounded life, but also is very balanced. You've had amazing success in all these different things, but
you're as normal and approachable as anybody I know. You know why I gotta be? Why? You. Because you are a speaker of truth. We ain't seen each other in a while. But the one thing about your opinion is always going to be truthful. So, you know, as us, coming from a different time there's certain people that we want to have the real truth come from you rock chapelle all these guys so we came up so when we're doing our art or when we're doing whatever we do yeah it's always going to be those people that you know rock with you but you want to get the people who have a really artistic real opinion does that make sense yeah yeah I know and if you hear them say yo I kind of fuck with that now okay I got that if jr says that's cool then I know and I said why why you say that because that motherfucker tell you he'll tell you that that shit's whack you know
I'm saying and then they'll whoop your ass you know I'm saying so you got to be you know you got to be on point with this because I know when I run into those guys like you you want to have that favor does that make sense I know exactly what you're saying yeah because you got yourself to a very high standard you got people in your mind right now that when you're doing your thing that you know if everybody's yelling like, oh, we love you. But if that person say maybe this or maybe that, you go, okay. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? People are going to be 100% real. Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. You're a bad motherfucker, Jamie Foxx. Thank you, brother. And you are too. All right, baby. All right. All right. And they told me to say Prevay Revo. Yeah. How do you get those sunglasses? Amazon.com, Prevay Revo. You lose your clothes. You never lose your glasses, man.
And it's all number $29.95. And there you go. There you go, ladies and gentlemen. Peace. There you are.