Wim Hof

00:17Jamie's too hot in here turn the AC up crank that get it down to zero I'm just kidding my man what's happening baby welcome back you brought notes yeah just a couple of notes I I don't want to repeat myself since the last time because oh you're the only guest ever in the history of this podcast that has brought notes to make sure they don't repeat themselves yes this is the first time I do a podcast dislike or any other interview I never go programmed or premeditated or prepared whatsoever just jump in but I think this is much more important it's Joe Rogan man and you're the Iceman man yeah and you're big window and I'm still on the mission trying to get it out to everybody that we are able to do so much more and uh you know it's all natural what we do so there is no money attached to it and thus it's a it's a struggle to get it out there but we get more and more scientific

01:23evidence uh piling up and uh I'm here to present new insight well I think that you're winning the struggle for sure cuz I hear about you all the time I hear about you all the time from people that have heard about you from my podcast and people that say do you know this guy and I say yeah he's been on my podcast I know him so the message is getting out 100% wow and that's a bio parameter for me thanks for sharing that I will take you feel it though don't you you must right this morning I was talking to Tony Robins oh and he wants to like cooperate oh yeah and uh uh and now I'm Joe with Joe again I mean th those are big names and uh I used to listen to Tony Robbins tapes when I was 20 20 or 21 when I was a struggling standup comedian I used to listen to his what was it called unlimited power is that what it was it was an audio cassette I listened to one

02:18of those old school Walkman thing those big chunky things yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and uh yeah he's got his goal charity to get 100 million meals together this year and I'm going to help him there oh that's great how what is he doing to that just raising money and awareness uh raising money and you give a billionaire some very powerful people a very good time insides in their own stressful uh lives and uh I'm in there to uh teach them uh how to handle stress hormone at the deepest in the brain as in the in the body beautiful you know I had a friend of mine who was trying to do a parody on Tony Robbins so he went and researched him and he was going to listen to some of his recordings and listen to some of his speeches and his goal was to find what's stupid about it and then he started going God damn this guy's H something was it Callen do you remember who it was they were talked

03:20about it in here I believe it was Callen I think he was researching him for something that he was doing and then along the way he started realizing like this guy is legit yeah but he's one of the rare ones like almost everyone that's like a professional motivator then you go behind go okay well what do you do you know like what do you do you just motivate people have you done anything like you're telling people they can go do things but what the have you done what have you done sir and most of them they don't do you know they just get together with big seminars they tell people they can do it you can do it like I can do it now but you never go hey man what have you done you on the other hand yeah you've done a lot mhm so that's one thing when people say well that that Iceman Hoff guy is he legit i'm like do you have Wikipedia do you Google we love the live and the coming

04:15uh January we're going to do Kilimanjaro again in 24 hours man you already offered that up to me it's not happening I'm not going to kill manaro hey man kill a man jro it is almost you know I'll rooting you on from afar from Los Angeles while watching television I'll be live tweeting it yeah right on right on we are doing uh yeah yeah scientific research and show that the uh Red Cell generation can be accelerated if it is so in those circumstances then science has to uh update itself what are the circumstances where their cells can be regenerated it's like uh in 24 hours the body is not able to adapt to the circumstances where there is a lack of oxygen is half the oxygen and less and we go what's the altitude on Kil maor is six like 20,000 ft at the top so at say 15,000 ft the the acclimatization the the adaptation is not as fast in human bodies now we found this breathing

05:19techniques and using the mind and that enables us to accelerate that what they thought what science is thinking that that it is arranged autonomically so outside of our will and we cannot interfere we cannot intervene not uh so we we will'll show that with a like 30 people by the way past January I did it with a person 76 years old without a prior mountaineering experience and he did it in 44 hours D 76 H wow I mean that's a robust 76y old now but he was a good guy while he last yes so candle burn brightly for that last couple of days his old life is dead he really treads for right so um let me ask you this so the standard model of what someone can do as far as how much red cell red blood cells they can generate is observed and they thought that it was at 15,000 ft it became too difficult but you've shown that with your exercises and when your deep breathing techniques

06:28that you can actually Accel at red blood cell count uh consciously or at least not consciously through conscious action conscious action using the breath and what what techniques are you using the same what we did last time but then adapted to while you are walking and when you know first sign of AMS lack of oxygen in the head means headach MH AMS is acute Mountain sickness and the first sign is headache and that means a lack of oxygen inside the brain normally we are not able to get oxygen then at that moment inside the brain to equal the balance the disbalance the lack of oxygen and I've learned just to do that so we tackle the problem and keep on uh able uh to perform in the extreme conditions even so through this technique of taking these enormous deep breaths letting some of it out and then trying to refill and then letting some of it out trying to refill letting some

07:28of it out yes and then you're you're forcing your body to you're forcing your lungs to constantly carry air yes uh that it is we use the lungs it's the passageway but it get into the lymphatic system it gets into the tissue you know what we just found with the university in uh in Germany they found out that the devices that show that we have 100% uh uh blood saturation oxygen in the blood is not 100% we go more they found it out for the first time what they thought was 100% blood saturation there's actually a higher level above that yes and that's what I always said but now it's a it's like proven so what they thought was 100% blood saturation was just based on what people normally do with no uh extra techniques involved right is that what it is absolutely based on that they made devices and then 100% saturation in the blood is 100% And and then you should be like sane but now

08:39we got this professor a biochemical Professor uh and whatever his name is mus doesn't matter professor mosqu and he is give my name it Oak mosquito what a name Professor profess yeah Professor fly Professor mosquito H that this is a biochemical professor and he tells the uh looking at the results what you have produced with the university uh regarding to the immune system and influencing into the autonomic nervous system we can say uh you guys have found a way to tap into the tissue into the lymphatic system and take away the acidity over there and uh and the storage capacity of the lymphatic system that deeper level than the blood is actually a storage capacity to have chemistry uh uh which is wrong stored up over there so it doesn't mess with the rest of the physiology to maintain functionality so but in time you got to deal with it it's like garbage and that

09:51garbage we could not tap into that I'm I'm so confused so what is that garbage the garbage is a wrong chemistry like be an acidic state of chemistry in the lymphatic St system as well right do they do they know what that I mean have they isolated that as is that an actual compound can they tell you what it is that they're monitoring yes um it's actually uh that acidity chronically there not being dealt with this professor my byom medical Professor tells us that a 95% of the autoimmune diseases a course because of it so 95% of autoimmune diseases are caused by some sort of acidity long ter a long time presence of acidity not being dealt with will deal with you in the end and deregulate say the chemistry in the rest of the body the biochemical processes actually this a quite logic logical but we and he knew he knew death but then uh we came up with this uh what

11:00is the cause of this acidity is it diet based is it stress based is it all the above yes anything that is stressed too much we can handle so diet like inflammation stress uh stress as far as pressure daily life any stress we are not able to deal with will be translated into chemistry and as you are not dealing with it it will be uh stored I'm going to stop you right here because for a lot of people that are listening to this like what the is Joe Rogan doing on this podcast what the hell is this about you are very unique in that your claims are incredibly unusual but substantiated by science and this is not um it's not woowoo science this is real legitimate researchers have they injected you with what was it they injected you with with an eoli bacteria an endotoxemia an endotoxin and then they monitored your immune system and saw that you could actively force your

12:02immune system to fight off this injection very specifically within a quarter of hour and this is something they did not think was possible until you performed this exactly they saw that I was influencing into the so-called autonomic nervous system and then for also for people that did not hear the first podcast you have achieved I believe it's correct if wrong 26 World Records yes 26 including um you have the longest time of holding your breath and swimming under u under ocean ice ocean ice too right yes ocean ice have too incredibly cold water where salt water freezes over right yes yes and you ran marathons basically in your underwear with yes in your shorts and they say beyond the polar Circle in Mid Winter as well as in the desert without drinking yes no meter of training because I don't like running too much I just do it you know I just do it it's like when your house is on fire you

13:05run fast right you don't need to train therefore right and um so uh I know how to tap into this adrenaline uh system the AIS in the brain stem The Reptilian mode I've learned that well I have a lot of friends that have followed your course now uh my good friend Denny apparently was just with you this past weekend in San Francisco Denny propos he's a Brazilian jiu-jitsu world champion oh and a good friend of mine and a really interesting guy he loves your stuff and uh he's he's fascinated by it I know a lot of other people that are fascinated by too A lot of people that I know that are taking your course and trying your stuff since the last time you were on so anybody who's listening to this podcast for the first time you might want to go back and listen to the first one and we go into great detail about all the different accomplishments that you've made with your method the Wim Hoff

13:56breathing method um so in case you're listening to this for the first time you're like what the is this you know that's that it is legit it's a legit a Legend So legit legit yeah and uh uh legit and yeah we are legends yes legendary because we go past perceived limits we go past the fear and what we perceive as being possible we go past it because we Pioneer we go past our fear created by our conditioning whatever we think is possible and we do not dare to go past that well it's funny that I'm sorry I didn't inter you but it's funny that you're teaming up with Anthony Robbins because you hear that Anthony rob you know Anthony Robbins loves to do those uh walking on fire things but uh lately it's been causing problems because people pause in the middle to take selfies and then they want to burn their feet silly people that's so silly but uh we had Michael shurmer on who's a noted skeptic

14:59in a very very intelligent man and he explained what what it is is that you know the coals are a very poor conductor of heat that's why you don't cook right on coals you use metal metal is a great conductor of heat you put the metal all the coals the metal gets heated up by the coals and that Sears your food you don't cook on coals themselves because they it doesn't really transmit heat that well that's why you can for 10 seconds or so you can walk over real quick and you don't really get that burned unless you pause for selfies yes yes uh the I mean Go Back To Nature and then you see before we wore shoes actually ridiculous things but we invented them and now we think with the shiny shoes we are so much more beautiful at shoes do look good though yeah okay I like shoes too and they colorful shoes and all that very nice but sometimes be and moreover because of all these devices radiation

15:56uh we get uh into the nervous system and we charge it with negative ions M and for that you know any electricity you need to ground mhm if you got big chars so it accumulates in the body and therefore I um suggest people walk sometimes just inside of nature not all day but uh release those negative ions I got to write something down because I keep forgetting it um is that true though like as far as uh negative ions and doing negative things to your body have they ever found any correlation between the use of electronics and negative aspects I just feel so you you think so I always go by my intuition and I hear things Etc and I want to prove it but I feel a lot better doing this I'm going to do the kilan by the way on Barefoot oh yeah man and uh like some challenge I have a friend of mine who went to Bolivia he filmed he has a television show called mediator his name

17:01is Stella he's a professional Hunter and he went to Bolivia and he lived with the chumani for a couple weeks and he they brought them shoes like hey you know hey try these shoes on they didn't want to have nothing to do with those shoes they like get those stupid things out of here cuz those people walk Barefoot everywhere and their feet he said their feet don't look like anybody's feet he's like they're all SPL out like their toes are SPL out and there's like a thick thick padding underneath you know where they're basically their own shoes like the calluses in the bottom of their feet act as shoes hey that doesn't sound too attractive for me to to have you know attract I mean to have feet like uh heart uh no uh what I do is using my mind so you don't want to have like calluses in the B of your feet from no I I got very soft baby feed do you really yeah yeah yeah my wife always tells hey

17:57a softy feed you're a man so you you're a man so you are going to do this Barefoot are you going to wear ice shoes at least no no no no nothing like that and challenge is to go once again mind over matter but what about frostbite uh I did the half marathon Barefoot you did beyond the polar circles in temperatures even far more below than the kilaru is is in do you think that there's any benefit from the fact that you're walking so much or running and then your body's heating up and maybe that has a positive effect on your skin um the thing is I'm uh very able to uh to go in to tap into the hormonal system creating uh adrenaline you you know this fact where people sometimes refer to they lift up a car a mother because a child is underneath MH that actually is the mind staring directly into the reptilian mode the The Reptilian Brain which is the Primitive brain and there

19:07you have direct access uh to Pure adrenaline makes you able to do almost inconceivable uh Feats M and accomplish it only you need the right trigger now because I have been so much into the C called is called is a real P Force impact upon you so you need to learn how to connect within with your mind and your breathing into the brain stem into this adrenaline to withstand this Force the cold impact I've learned it so you're tapping in your brain you're causing your body to produce more adrenaline and you're focusing on the areas of your body that are contacting the snow like you're focusing on the bottom of your feet Yes yes and it works you know I'm still able to look around how nice the sunset or the R and and B so there is a margin even therein we just need to go back to believe a and believe therein means the neurotransmitters and the neurons those are

20:13signals and charges so if you charge your uh uh your body then uh you're able to influence up to DNA level and we have proven this all right with the IL six interus those connected to Safe inflammation we could not fan it off we could not suppress the cyto the flammatory markers and we showed very effectively not me only a whole group of persons which I trained just in four days to be able to go into the DNA and create the right chemistry consciously by breathing and using the mind to fend off inflammatory markers uh caused by say uh bacteria in inside so we are actually able to tap into the deepest of ours create uh have control over adrenaline stress hormone and go up to not only in the deepest part of the brain but also in the DNA and I got interesting things D since the last time I I believe you you got a pile of notes what is it about breathing what is it

21:27about breathing or is breathing just one component of this is it breathing and also focusing on what you're trying to accomplish yeah Focus absolutely works let me explain a little about uh about breathing breathing is chemistry oxygen is chemistry in the body so if you are able to uh oiz the cells more than we do normally because we talked about the lymphatic system and the tissue and actually the the the body is able to store up more oxygen than the 100% we presumed H uh possible scientifically we are able to store up more oxygen so if a breathing technique whatever breathing technique is able to store up more oxygen in the cell that means going into the tissue going into the lymphatic system then suddenly the uh the chemistry becomes alkaline the acid gets out of the body at will and then the mind the mind is positive uh uh little electrical charges neurotransmitters and uh they are

22:36suddenly able to connect in the body and you enabling you to have control direct all the systems in the body that's the way nature maned to be so the Mind mind's condition to be effective in the body is making the body uh by breath the right breathing profound breathing in an alkaline State then these electrical signals are able to travel throughout and with the way nature meant it to be is that we are able to direct any part of the body so the immune system endocrine system the lymphatic system vascular at Aller systems we we told a little bit last time but I got more direct evidence now and right now we are working with the universities on the brain on say emotion reactivity and they see incredible things that we actually are able to get in those places where emotion exists and we think yeah emotion where is it where is it but it is translated also as something

23:45chemical so they can measure emotion in a chemical form yes what are they what are they measuring H they they go into say uh the hypothalamus mhm uh hypothalamus hippocampus amigdala those are the places where this chemistry is going on and we had no way to get into that now if you are able to oiz those parts and to pressurize with breathing techniques into those parts then suddenly you feel you begin to cry why because the chemistry is changing you are dealing with the chemistry which was stored up because you couldn't work it out before and now you're able to tap in there change the chemistry and that that's the function you are not able to deal with it now so later when you have peace and you are somewhere not not stressful then work on it and breathing does it it it inter it positively influences the chemistry in the uh in the depth of the brain you know what happens you create

24:5425% more blood flow and uh blood flow is with oxygen through through your breathing yes well it makes sense cuz your blood is being it's carrying oxygen right so the more oxygen you provide your blood and you are definitely providing it more with these big long deep breaths and these techniques that you that you pursue yes manipulating up the spine the central nervous system up to the tunnel of the light the brain storm is at top so if you pressurize after inhaling exhaling like we did last time M you did about 3 minutes almost H without air in the lungs very good first round is very promising for the next round because you get more and more oxygen it's only to show that you are able to store uh up oxygen far more than you ever used before so in case when you need it to regulate the chemistry inside the body then it needs oxygen then you we are all able with these breathing exercis

25:59to get it anywhere where the chemistry is messed up and a a chemistry messed up will send off a a signal but we are not mostly not listening because we got our worries and we need to do the deadline and this and that so we are not in and then this chemistry stays over there and and will deregulate the system and then we become sick and we don't know what's happening we go to the doctor and uh or the psychiatrist because we could become depressed and all but we are very able to get into any place in the body and in this case the the brain uh where uh we do all these studies now with the university they say cognitive therapy just talking to each other in the psychology and Psychotherapy that's not enough that was a conference with 200 experts and they did this is breathing and then they say wow talking only is not enough but if you do this breathing then you really

27:08get into the brain then suddenly you get a sense of control because you're creating this extra circulation of blood yes together with oxygen making it alkaline then suddenly the blockage is created because of wrong chemistry because of trauma or uh uh uh anxiety or or uh grief then suddenly that chemistry is being dealt with and you get balance H simple and we keep it simple and and try to get this weap of our thoughts thinking of so many difficulties and complications what is emotion what is fear what is PTSD what is trauma what is depression we don't know where it is in the brain just get all the brain full of oxygen get get the alkalinity up and you are able to steer by going through the spine up in your head and do it all is that why do you believe is that why some Studies have shown that rigorous exercise particularly cardio like running uh elliptical machines things along like

28:16those lines are just as good for depression as medication absolutely absolutely it it it's dealing with the oxygen tension forcing when you think those giant deep breaths you take when you're jogging or something yes yes and when you do those things you actually create a the body to be effective uh with the oxygen then suddenly different mechanisms are at work uh more oxygen is coming in and the chemistry is balancing out a depression is caused by uh wrong chemistry creating inflammation I you know I'm a regular exerciser but sometimes I just get real busy and I I take a couple of days off and sometimes I take a couple days off and I just don't feel right maybe I mean I'm not a self-indulgent person but sometimes I'll just feel like ah God I just feel kind of shitty today or whatever and then I force myself to exercise I go look I'm going to get up an hour early or I'm going to do

29:16whatever I have to do and I'm GNA you know before I go to bed whatever it is I'm going to make sure that the day will not end until I exercise and when I do all it goes away all the feelings go away it's like I have a new brain it's like I I leave there I'm smiling I'm laughing you know it seems like everything's just beautiful again and that's you and it's and I'm the same person it's it's also like my life is the same like not that my life is bad in anyway my life is fantastic it's not it's all great stuff but just being a person sometimes being a person is overwhelming you're tired you know you're you have a lot of obligations there's a lot on your plate there's a lot of things going on and sometimes it's overwhelming sometimes you just you just feel down you know and I have a good life it's a very it's it's a fun life if I didn't have a fun life and that happened it would just be

30:04compounding all the other issues that I have now tack on that if I was overweight tack on that if I was on hooked on pills you know or I was an alcoholic or cigarette smoking or one of the other things that are really terrible for you that so many people suffer from if all those things you don't think of I I think there's so many people that think of depression or bad states of Mind as being just something that you're a hand that you're dealt and it's I don't I don't necessarily think it's the case with everybody because I don't know how everybody's mind works but I know certainly from my mind I can absolutely regulate those ups and downs based on rigorous exercise and it doesn't have to be lifting weights or CrossFit or jiujitsu or anything crazy just go walk up a hill just go hike just go hike you go hike you take those big deep breaths you get to the top of that

30:56hill and you feel great yeah yeah very good so I I can do that too I know you could do it you do it in your underwear yeah yeah yeah snow yes ex go to the extrem and show that it is all possible even in the most extreme conditions yeah now I'm at the uh knocking at the door um uh of Science and I feel I'm able to help well science is very much interested in what you're doing yes they do the the scientific Community embraced this but now I feel hey man uh I'm able uh actually to help human mankind well it's so extraordinary that one person has this kind of influence I mean I hope you realize what what a service you're providing to people because you you too bringing uh uh bringing awareness well thank you but all I'm doing is just talking to someone who's awesome it's Prett easy but this this thing that you've done you would think that other people would have

31:58figured it out and that's what I find Most Fascinating about you I would have thought that last time you were here I mean I just it's hard to believe there are so few people that have done what you've done or figured out what you've what you figured out and then even more unusual what you've done is you've gone to scientists and you said hey I think I'm on to something please study me like please study what I'm doing and you got people to listen to you by accomplishing all these incredible Feats they go well this guy obviously is doing something I mean who the swim a 100 yards under Frozen ice in one breath who who the is running marathons on Barefoot above the polar Circle all this that you're doing it it it's it's wonderful it's you're forcing people to acknowledge the fact that something extraordinary is going on so it is and you know we got big problems and issues

32:49with people with PTSD depression trauma fear anxiety in general it's all stress stress hormone and now using the uh uh developing a method and finding it out because I I was in this quest to go deeper Within Myself finding a a the cold as the right teacher to bring me into the depth of my physiology finally finding a way the way nature meant me to be to feel strong and in control of myself I brought this now H to science and now it is a a matter of time that we will resolve what we have lost the connection with the depth of ourselves and that means for people maybe not for you because you are able to handle your mood and and and your physical strength and and your health that's good but for those who have PTSD trauma anxiety fear depression autoimmune diseases cancer uh all these things I think nature knows and I found these keys in uh nature I just bring it to the science and we

34:04forgot about the nature and this is where I where I'm made a couple of notes and uh I think you know if we are able not only to show that e autonomic nervous system the hormonal system the immune system can be influenced deeply that means hormonal system that is the melat in serotonin dopamine any Feelgood hormone within us and the ability to tap into that system and create those hormones when necessary when you feel bad you just get get a shot Naturally by breathing and believing uh of the right hormones and you feel great okay and then you got the strength which is also based on hormones hormonal uh hormonal uh uh secretions like adrenaline cortisol dose and we show people lying in bed as I told last time in ined producing more adrenaline controlled stress hormone than somebody going into a inere going into its first Bunger jump that means controlled stress hormone

35:18adrenaline adrenaline which is controlled is stress hormone works like a medicine anytime it brings you back to the way nature made us most effective in uh situations of danger that could be cold uh extreme cold heat it could be uh being predated by the ly trop like the you know the werewolf or or yes yeah real and werewolves yeah I think in society there are werewolves even bigger than the the one I saw here what what do you think is a big you you're using an analogy obviously you don't think the people really turn the Wolves you think no no no no no not not really only in Hollywood right and ly trops and all the very nice um very nice yeah very nice I like him I just already made a picture man he's a beautiful uh beautiful beautiful piece of art um and that you know that that's the strength part and then you get the uh the health part uh that's immune system and all its layers

36:26well let me ask you this because adrenal um with fighting uh is is considered to be a very dangerous thing to to manage because there's a thing called an adrenaline dump that happens to a lot of Fighters where they get so worked up they're so jazzed up before a fight and then they're in the fight and then somewhere around the first round the adrenaline goes away and they have this dump and they get exhausted I i' say and that's very interesting it's called adrenaline dump and it happens I mean they're under extreme stressful situations and guys gas out they get very tired very quickly and a lot of them talk about it they say I I couldn't believe how tired I got and it's attributed to Adrenaline yes but that then is no control over the adrenaline flow right so do you right so they allow it to run away from them it's like that old expression do you remember the there

37:16was a very famous custom expression custom was the guy who trained Mike Tyson he said fire can be your friend or it can be your enemy it can cook your food or it can burn your house down it depends on how you can control it it's all very interesting the you know the fighting modus of ours which is related to the fight modus fight flight food freeze and that's the brain stem yes it's all the same energy it's all the same energy yeah procreation protect your children foodal Primal th those Primal forces are directly related to Adrenaline and we lost the control there over because we lost a deeper connection with a with that system within our uh brain the brain stem and therefore we do not know how to handle danger anymore as as such and danger is not only cold and heat and uh oxygen depriva situations like Mount Everest or something but also Daily stress it's

38:22also things things that carry with them extreme consequences yes where you get nervous and you get freaked out yes and I think that's for people that aren't in situations that are very stressful very often it becomes a huge issue and they often times can't control their adrenaline they can't control their anxiety they can't control even their own thoughts they they're they they get tunnel vision it's like they're in an elevator as the doors are closing shot and they can't see like they you literally see it in fights you see people panic yeah and that Panic does not allow them to be present which does not allow them to perform at their very best and they're almost they're almost always severely dis diminished because of that adrenaline or because of that panic I should say not necessarily the adrenaline but the the loss of a management loss of um loss of uh your

39:17ability to be Sovereign you know you're not in control anymore it's like you're being Carried Away by a wave of fear yes now I deal with uh Sports uh people I know you did a lot of work with alist over yeah and many more many more and um uh in general when they do the breathing exercises and the cold exposures they become just more energetic and they have a lot more connection with their own body creating confidence uh within themselves and then they are able to build up this connection mind body and then uh yeah there cardio increases uh their Tranquility increases well you had some great results with alar let me tell you that because he was on a downward spiral before he started he's going to come to Kil ma too because I need to train him again I think he lost track a little bit on the the breathing uh exercises and uh he thought he was already there I think

40:20H that that's my opinion and uh I talk to I will uh we will go to the Kilimanjaro I I will say listen here you have to breathe here you will understand the significance of breathing and not to take it too lightly go back into into yourself and do not think you are there be there and the mountain the mother nature will show you it's not me I just know to abide by the laws of Mother Nature and that's why I do these feeds there and it makes me able to adapt very rapidly to changes in like cold heat uh oxygen depriva situations anything it's there and uh well Mother Nature will teach him why do you think that he stop doing it like what what gives you that indication there a certain moment people think I I control I can control it I can do it and I'm in a positive spiral going up and it's all okay then they leave this connection and then they fall back in the old patterns

41:35the old neurology the old conditioning so they require daily practice until it's really mastered so I mean it takes how many years it takes to condition your body really to to become really so good to be and say K1 and and and MMA at the top up it takes years to build that up but uh uh still there you will compete with people who also condition their bodies right so it's an equal thing going up and what makes the difference that's the connection of your mind with your body of your brain stem with your conscious will and the body controlling the adrenaline not only also ainr nor adrenaline dopamine anything now when you're watching someone like Alistar fight and he just fought for the UFC heavyweight title and came very close to winning a couple times in that first round and W up losing what makes you think that breathing could have helped him in that because he almost won the

42:44fight he almost knocked Stipe out he almost caught him in a guillotine choke I mean and he had Stipe in a lot of trouble on two separate occasions then St B caught him and knocked him out what makes you think the breathing would have helped him there breathing brings in oxygen oxygen makes the body alkaline the nervous system that that is a nervous system goes better when it alkaline the the swiftness of neurotransmitters actil which is a neurotransmitter in the way makes the body like react like bruis Le what that word again say that word again atil cholina Coline actil choline ACL choline yes okay and if yes what I do all the time with people right or or women who are not able to do push-ups mhm I make them do the breathing influence muscle tissue making it alkaline so the neurotransmitter the performance neurotransmitter suddenly is able to keep on because it's not

43:53becoming acidic when you say acidic and alkaline what are you measuring are you measuring blood are you measuring muscle muscle tissue how are they doing globin uh you can uh but with a a simple pH strip MH you can uh show yourself say be before a f MH and who's doing these tests scientists are doing these tests yes that's what we we just complete new studies with four 48 people and it showed that all the people got to very very high alkaline levels in the blood M like 7.8 what's normal yeah 7.3 7.4 is natural and then you got all the way up to 7.8 and then it comes back and it stays over there for all the day long and that's what you want but most of the people are acidic if you pee on it and then you will see with a pH strip yellow to blue and green in the middle and all all these variations then you see most of the people are just yellow in the morning and they do the breathing 20

45:05minutes and they become blue boom M and that's why you want to have it because the neurotransmitters the electrical signals in the body they travel a lot faster when it's alkaline so your same punch will be faster if it is alkaline than when it's acidic and actually it's a logical if I'm going to train with this and become AIC at a certain moment you know I get to my limit then I not punching as fast than when uh I'm alkaline it's all in the muscle and we are able to influence therein so um he he did he wasn't too much in the breathing anymore uh that was tell you this h no I saw it I how how you could tell I measured it before I was in this room and uh we did I tested him hey how is you breathing and how is your retention like what you did 2 and a half minutes the first round you remember that means you store up oxygen in the body and therefore you

46:10have no need for breathing right and you were just measuring that so do you think any of that had to do with the stress of fighting for the first time for the UFC title no he was over over too too confident really you think he was too confident too confident why why do you say that yeah because I I saw psych yeah but it didn't seem that the way to me as a as a trained Observer I I felt he was dealing with a lot of anxiety because especially the way he was fighting he was I mean he literally was running at certain points in the fight yes I saw I saw I was there yeah I saw you there in the ring I was somewhere on the stairs some I know I'm just saying like when I look at that and I look at the way he was performing yeah he wasn't performing the way he performed against Junior dos Santos yes exactly and that's because and that's what I think with all the respect for over him

47:02I love him M but he's a good guy but Mother Nature knows better and I know Mother Nature so I saw he needs to get back to this breathing get back to making it alkaline therein and keeping it on until the conditioning the old patterns go away so do you think he got tired what do you think happened there yes but what about him getting hit cuz he got hit I mean he went for uh anything you are not able to receive blows as as good M uh a a chemistry which is low in pH level is if you are acidic then then you are understand that less able to receive but steepen Mio the UFC heavyweight champion is 250 lbs of meat he's a scary dude and he hits very hard he's very accurate there's not a whole lot of people that he punches in the face that don't get knocked out and the way he was hitting aliser I have a hard time believing that anything would have saved him whether it's breathing or

48:05anything he was getting cracked by one of the best fighters in the world yes of course it's good but I'm not into uh increasing the performance of any Sportsman I do that at the S side but I want to draw the attention for people who are suffering in the world no I understand that but where I am I just I'm talking about this moment in specific why did you think that his lack of breathing or whatever had an effect on it did you feel like he got tired too quickly did you notice him diminishing his energy levels dropping like what what did you seen that made you believe that he was not doing the breathing properly it's not only of that day yeah mhm it's a whole process right so if you are at a top like that at the most of uh the fighting levels of this world then you got to work your body you got to condition your body and that you do with the right breathing exercises along with

49:07the fighting and the conditioning and the muscle training and all and if it is not there then you can have the muscles of the world but very soon you will be exhausted now when you work with a guy like aliser with all due respect to him and to you um he's been knocked out four times in the UFC alone and he's been knocked out many times outside of the UFC do you have any concern about the amount of damage that he's taking and do you think that in any way this kind of training and your the breathing method could in some way help mitigate some of that damage he's taking absolutely yes yes and um I will see about him he will come back he will get a very good lesson of Mother Nature and uh I mean there is no um you cannot speculate about Mother Nature you just got to perform the right way what do you mean by that 24 hours getting up kilo that means with his weight getting up there that means

50:13breathing re really breathing uh really getting into and using your mind and focus totally and not thinking that you are able to do it but doing it one thing that does happen to Fighters though and it happens inevitably in in a Fighter's career if they've taken a lot of fights where they were real wars is they lose their ability to take a punch it's a physiological response the brain has to the amount of punishment that you've been taking and it knows the punishment's coming and it shuts off prematurely shuts off much quicker than it did when you were younger and in the fight game they call it getting chinny or his chin is gone you know where you take a shot and you can see that you just can't take it anymore and doctors take that almost almost universally as a sign they you should probably start thinking about hanging it up yeah yeah yeah do you see that at all in him and

51:05you are you concerned about that at all yeah if I see that I will see that in January so you'll see it once you take make it yes but that's it doesn't have anything to do with physical condition it has more to do with punishment it has more to do with getting hit okay I'm I'm not so much into fighting and all this it's all information I just know how nature works and I will test him I will see it I will observe and give my objective I will try to help him and give my objective opinion uh therein and uh yeah that's what I'm going to do I'm going to take uh by the way also uh high performance extreme athletes as well upon the M but also people with conditions mhm and that's actually even more interesting like what kind of conditions they like Crohn's disease and rheumato arthritis asthma and they will make it in 24 hours as well just because of this breathing

52:07and focus people with rheumatoid arthritis you can take them up Mount kman I already did I already did yes and they do all this program all the time and they have zero infammatory markers left in the body so they control their uh condition arthritis uh cron disease out immune diseases completely and how severe is their arthritis cuz people that are like really crippled and they can't walk very well you've done that with them uh with people or is it up to a certain level I mean if you cannot walk anymore right what are you doing on the Kil right but but what if you can barely walk or what if you can walk but walk slowly or what if you walk but you walk in pain yes I I'm into scientific research because I want to help Humanity Darren and I know we are able to tap into the systems and begin to heal first MH before we go into say Feats like died so you work with

53:06these people that have arthritis or Crohn's disease strengthen their immune system first scientific research lower their inflammation first and how much time do you spend with them before you take them to something like extreme uh environment like kill them in um I got now my instructors everywhere so first I teach them in a session how many instructors you have uh now how many is it 200 or 200 wow all over the world yeah uh mostly in the Netherlands now but now America is beginning to do the basic course Advanced module and then we have the instructors uh wig and it goes up to a bachelor level ER the books are in the University it's real legit all and scientifically endorsed and there it is it works and it works th for those people and we still got to find out tomorrow for example I got a a scientific uh sort of lecture together with Professor huberman from Stanford

54:09University uh in front of Ideo in Ideo there comes a guy who is the Google Healthcare head of the of it all and U he was the former man in charge of the health care in in America in US I mean big people and uh it's not for nothing they see it works it doesn't work only for say people with arthritis but also with depression how much money Healy people they'll feel better yes yes yes preventative ER increasing perance quality of life yes sir yes sir and that is only because of a simple principle out of nature go back to Mother Nature inside go back into the depth of your own physiology and know that it is there you are able to awaken that and get it into your control h preventing you from disease from depression or becoming happy healthy so you're essentially in some ways tapping into the same force that creates the placebo effect because there's an effect when your mind thinks

55:14that it has a drug that's going to heal it even if it's a sugar pill you see a visible Improvement on many people because of that belief so through your belief system plus the oxygen plus the deep breathing exercise and the increasing blood flow to the brain it has all these positive benefits and and the cold trains a gradual cold exposure trains their transportation system 75,000 miles of capillaries arteries and veins within us they transport oxygen there are in uh primitive muscles and reflexes and uh when they are stimulated by cold showers just cold showers then uh the heart rate is going down and the the transportation of oxygen suddenly is a lot better and it gets to the immune cells logically the immune cells are more alert better fat and they they recognize Intruders who should not be there and they they kill them it's like cell death and they they

56:16put a a specific hormone molecule on the cell membrane and it's gone now how long has it been since the first podcast we did was it two years yeah a year and a half or something like that Jamie Jamie tell us a year and a half Jamie will tell us October 2015 October 21st so there you go basically a year one year yes yeah oh yeah yeah yeah so what what has happened in a year what new breakthroughs or what new what new evidence do you have in that year the evidence is that people are beginning to grasp the gravity of what I found because two and a half years ago I I uh we had this published in one of the best papers of the world the pl papers the what papers uh proceedings of National Academy of Sciences which is highly reput reputed uh scientific magazine it's like nature P St and uh if you come get in there then it's really solid mhm so um they took it up into the books the S the

57:26University books full chapter and um that's not for nothing and that is what the new information the new Physicians and biologists need to digest as being science so it is science and it's two and a half years ago that we uh proved the autonomic nervous system up till then never been proven in scientific history to be influenced by humans now not little bit to be influenced being able to be influenc big time people enabling a within a quarter of an hour to tap into the specific immune system which normally takes 5 to seven days so that's a big finding I I thought wow now the world is going to turn the other way now people going to see we are able to do so much more with what we got already they I'm going to receive 10 Nobel prizes you know something like that because it is something like that right but Tak it takes time so since last year I see more and more and more people

58:37getting to this and that's nice but I want scientific uh uh validation more because apparently they do not really grasp uh within the scientific Community the gravity of what we found it's historical it's not mine it's of M Mother Nature well don't you think it takes time for people and their opinions to shift when it comes to things along these lines apparently that's the psychology of uh the people and I'm finding this out I got I got in the beginning very frustrated now I begin to understand this is the way it all comes top down and it takes some time when Galileo found out that we are not the center of the universe but it is the Sun and we are turning around he was first almost banned from the church and almost sentenced to death as a her heretic things like that you know it was just a truthful uh new way of thinking right well do you not experiencing that kind

59:43of resistance right are you experiencing any resistance not really I mean you seem universally praised yes yes yes just a matter of acceptance meaning uh people actually practicing it that's the issue I I I think the consequences the positive consequences of practicing this are enormous for every person in the world I'm very accessible very effective very fast I use your method before I go on stage oh really yes I started doing it I started doing it after our podcast together I take these big giant deep breaths I let some out big giant deep breaths and I let some out and I do it for several minutes before my shows and I feel like I'm high like I'm I'm just filled with everything like woo I just feel crazy up good good good that enables you to get direct access better access to your adrenaline uh uh the the hormonal system and it gives me I mean that breathing in

60:39like that it gives me energy it gives me I it elevates me it feel I feel like it elevates my energy levels thanks for taking it on thanks for having me last year this year and I'm into ongoing research right now with the German univers going on there what's happening um we we got a we found out first time in scientific history now and not me the university doing this uh doing this uh say yeah uh I was worried that it got on the Machinery yeah yeah yeah thanks buddy so they for the first time in scientific history they found out that 100% saturation or oxygen in the blood is not really 100% right but what how I don't understand that there's no nothing more than 100% right so like did they just not understand so they they had a level that they thought was 100% that is and they said well nobody has ever reached a higher level than this so This Must Be what 100% saturation looks like

61:46exactly so it's not that you got more than 100% saturation it's you achieved higher levels of saturation than they thought possible is that a better way describing it exactly and they did it with a laser on the on the chest and then you are able to uh measure the mitochondrial oxygen tension uh mitochondria electrical Factory little factories in the cell the engines of the cells the engines of the cell they are able to uh receive more uh oxygen and that's very interesting and that's a great finding I mean more than 100% first time in the history that's a great finding I think and it shows that we are able to have more oxygen inside suddenly we are able to get into the cell influence the energy uh the energy production the ATP that those are molecules and if it is anerobic then it's like two molecules able to produce when it becomes aerobic then it's up to 38 molecules that it can

62:59produce that is energy and we are able to produce more oxygen what happens what happens with a cell that is deprived for 48 hours of 35% less oxygen it becomes cancerous really yes sir and as simple as that have you ever worked with cancer patients um I I want to now with the UN ivities but it it's very you know very difficult complicated matter and everybody thinks it's not able to uh be uh questioned or research also imperative that these people get medication because their lives on the line they could die ,000 a year those are good clients what what's $200,000 oh the cancer patients yes sir right so they you you think that there's an issue where they don't want to lose that money what do you think well maybe but don't you think there's some patients out there some who have autonomous control of their I got one I got one guy who just gave me a book Big

64:06Book uh what is his name I just gave the book to uh the the professor and he he cured from terminal cancer I met him in 2007 he had stage four cancer what kind of cancer uh skin cancer which deteriorates your all the all the skin and then you gone uh you're not able to function and it's over and he was in stage four so almost a terminal right and uh I met him in 2007 then and uh I told him listen what the science is telling you um that that is not really what what really is it is only what has been found up till now right so I found that the autonomic nervous system for example can be influenced the endocrine system the immune system what what else and what more don't yield don't yield get on and positive thinking therein these positive charges that's one but breathing and now it appears to be that 48 uh uh hours 35% less of oxygen in a Cell becomes makes a cell cancerous so

65:23what what I told you just now that the molecules we can influence that the the engines of the cell and make much more uh much more molecules by implementing but just by breathing good do you breathing and believing do you think that it would benefit people that are already under cancer treatment like if they're already taking chemotherapy or radiation they you know the chemo actually works better if you do the breathing techniques why is that it it goes more specifically into that area boom and but chemo is essentially poison right yes it it is and if I'm going to drink here by the way another little bit would would not be bad yeah my son is saying no no don't do that doesn't want you wait wait listen I got some control yeah you made him tell him to off yeah if I could do that cheers sometimes yeah the story goes like this with my son I was in Africa and uh on the kilar then after I

66:34did a successful attempt in the in 28 hours and in shorts and everything got to tell something about Scott con to an investigative journalist who came to get me uh disguised as a guru and with lies and everything he disguised I know he wanted to he's a investigative journalist and Anthropologist and he came to Poland to see who I am for real he he is into finding out how the the the organ trafficking goes and these gurus who make people do things he thought you were one of those yes yes why do you think that because it was paid to to to get to me paid him yes sir who paid him uh his editor is a the guy who's publishing his his books okay and he made a a new book lately but he came to Poland and uh two days later he was doing the same I'm doing on the outside though people do see someone like you that makes all these crazy claims and you know talks about love and breathing and go oh this

67:45guy's trying he's trying to everybody's wives and make a lot of money no no no just I'm very uh I know I know but that's that's you I know you're legitimate I know you are but there's a lot of people like you can understand why he would think a lot of people who make these Grand claims turn out to be um you know there's a lot of people that can claim Miracle claims they're usually crazy right yes yes yes so I went with this investigative journalist he became a full Adept and did he did he give up the ghost did he tell you what he doing yeah to totally totally it to took two days to disappear his distance and all and then he was also in his shorts on bare food in the snow that's beautiful what is that what are you doing there COV I can teach you you can teach me Maybe not maybe you can teach me too want teach me but some I think you can teach me some techniques uh but I can

68:43teach you for sure also some techniques okay like standing for two hours Barefoot in the snow in your shorts and in the horse stands yeah you're not going to teach me that no no I'm not doing that it could be I believe it can be done yeah like if I had to do it I felt like I feel like I could do it if I had to do it yes would I do it I'm busy yeah yeah yeah I got time stand my underwear for two days yeah man yeah you're underw wax on wax off they're laughing stuck but many people do this m and they suddenly see that they are capable of doing so much more because they begin to learn to control the acid that what becomes acidic in their bodies so the performance and for that I do that so he it did it and together with me last January was also nil Bano do you stay friends with this guy now yes yes he he wrote a book that what doesn't kill you it says it will come out next month or something

69:47and it is about you it's a it's mostly about what I do the method yes yeah and that it works and he a he's a scientist and he is an anthropologist but he is always trying out the stuff he is writing about so he got into this and it's a very nice book maybe you should he he's got a teaser on it's very nice but um that is that I'd love to have him on hey talk to him about that SC Scott Connie okay well let me know we'll we'll talk after the show let me know like when the book's going to come out yes and I'll I'll try to help there is a teaser and you see it all and awesome I think it's very it's beautiful and it's very good for uh humans for anybody to to see mhm and he he lost weights very fast and he could do now 80 push-ups without breathing and 80 push-ups without breathing he was an intellectualist yes he can hold his breath and do 80 push-ups yes sir I find

70:50that very hard to believe with no air in the lungs by the way no what no air in the lungs we do this he goes down he goes down no air in the lungs blows out of the air and then does 8 Z push-ups in a row yes sir I call yeah and I do it also with I do call what does this guy look like I don't know maybe as white as you got be a Savage just to be able to do 80 push-ups period it's control of oxygen you can do one pushup because you are alkaline but if you are able to maintain the alkalinity in the body hey there you go is there a video this guy doing 80 push-ups with no oxygen in his lungs I believe him I saw him do them at least 50 in my time but he went off and they I see too many people but I see also people with r with arthritis who cannot do any pushup right and I make them do 40 push-ups in in one day why because we controlled infammatory markers right in the blood

71:56suppressing them and suddenly they are able and with the extra oxygen making it alkaline the muscle tissue keeps on throwing these acetel cholin the the neurotransmitter performance neurotransmitter and they are surprised themselves astonished themselves but that just seems like a lot of push-ups to do with no air in your lungs what does it say here I could do 80 push-ups on a single breath and I lost seven pounds of belly fat in 70 days there you see it I need see you test him I see it I'm not an athlete I'm not exceptional listen if you can do 80 push-ups in a single breath that's exceptional I don't I want to know what he's calling a push-up if he's one of these no no no no no yeah let let let him I want to see this I want to see then I call okay touch your chin touch your chin go back up all the way up lock it out yeah but then it takes about at least 2

72:58minutes to do that then you ask him to two minutes while you're exercising at least right I think I can do that I can do that you can do that right now yeah you can do 80 push-ups on a single breath if uh would now you think so I don't know let's try it why don't you try it yeah you too me too I know I can't do it I can't do 80 push-ups on a single breath I'll tell you right now I can't do it wa we don't need to prove this now well that's a good time now's a good time we're doing a podast oh we will We Will We Will another thing actually I wanted to come back because I think you could probably do it I'm telling a story about my son oh that's this was the original you know the the step so the guy was trying to investigate you he thought you were a fake Guru found out legit and we did in 28 hours the kilar last January in shorts and he did it too right so uh

73:54very ni and all done but then later when we did it and accomplished I mean the the biggest feat was the 76 year old man doing the kilan in 44 hours that's a yeah it's unheard of and he did it anyway and with them uh we had 26 other people men women old young uh and we did it well how and it's taking him 44 hours to do this climb and how far is he climbing till the top yeah but I mean like how what many miles is it how manyet of 37 miles in 44 hours that's a lot of going lot of hiking and extreme altitude right yes why don't you Google what's the world record push-ups for a single breath turns out it's 60 hey if it is 60 then we got a new world record coming up so you were saying your son yes right so afterwards when we did it and accomplished it last January I went this to these natural reserves and uh yeah you know you got the serenti arusa nooro crat with the Lions and everything

75:12I I do things with the Masai as well can I ask you this did you take malaria medication when you went there no no Were You Were You There When mosquitoes were around yeah I said they always around you didn't worry about malaria no they they cause also inflammation so I think I'm able to deal with that so I take you deal with malaria uh absolutely wow yeah right man I'm I'm open for any research and investigation I believe in in in mother nature and mother nature came to me and I got so much field work done I know all the tricks of Mother Nature and uh what it does in the body and we forgot about it because we never expose ourselves in Mother Nature anymore we always take the choice of comfort right but we actually build to be stimulated by wind cold heat uh pressure differences and all all kinds of things and that makes us strong makes our immune system strong and then

76:14bacteria viruses and vaces suddenly have a lot less chance to get in and do their damage and that is it's a fact it's not me it's Mother Nature within us and that control we lost the we lost the connection and it's very important to bring that and I think yes malaria yes we can wow yeah not only it's alter in the books now in the hey possibly uh University books possibly hope for people with HIV I have a friend my friend Justin Ren he uh does a lot of work with the pygmies he works with water for and he builds Wells in the Congo and he's had malaria three times and when he gets it it's pretty bad and not only does he get it but now cuz he's had it so many times he gets it if he gets sick so when he's in America if he catches the flu or something like that he also gets malaria it's happened infammatory markers deregulation of the immune system you think you could help

77:14him yes sir I need to connect you I need to connect you to absolutely absolutely okay yes before you leave I'm Gonna Get You his information I'm gonna swap information with you guys I think that'd be amazing if you could actually help him because he's he's amazing he's done amazing amazing stuff I mean that guy Spends months at a time imagine pioner oh man he's going past the fear like we began off those are the people those are men looking for more to to develop whatever we go for as human mankind yeah and to finally get into some love like sharing and caring tribal so what happened with your son yes so I went to this Reserve big sering Aro and there you got these big elephants loon loon African let you know big Savannah elephants they can go up to seven tons of meat so they I went to a lot of these big elephants and I lifted up their tails in the back and to see how big their

78:29is oh wow I saw a lot of big but my son is still the champ and I made the throne kill to him I made the throne kill that it's all about fun because I love him joke but he is also very severe with me he's like he can be he's sitting there very tqu but he can be like a wolf each not listen I asked him to not talk during the show and now you're egging him on you're forcing him to defend himself it's totally unfair I love giant he he makes my business you know that my mission he makes it able to happen in this world because I'm not of this world I'm too much of nature I I'm so naive but he is outlining everything with websites effectivity to people you not of this world I mean you're not of the modern world electronics that you're just not going to do you have a cell phone yes yes I I lose them a lot and uh and things like that but uh you know what happened with the cell phones in Finland

79:44in Lapland or Alaska where they you live in distance with each other telepathy is there and mean where there's no cell phones yeah there is no cell phones but since the telephone came introduced itself over there the the people lost this ability what do you mean like what what way they knew every time when the neighbor is coming they already setting things up without seeing it with the eyes and and that's common what is that and then these cell phones came and they take it over and we have to learn that we all have these not only physiological abilities deeper but also in the mind they are beautiful things and we are T having it us taken over by Tech technical devices and all that but where is the contact with our conscious contact with our depth where is it and I'm going for that is there but is there any evidence these people were really telepathic um no it's anecdotal of

80:52course of course but people full they're out there living by themselves just doing weird to themselves out there screaming in the night no one answers alone wolves howl there was a um that's true too old yeah you got to take that a new account people are full of you there was an old television show uh on the road do you remember on the road with Charles caralt is that who it was there was a guy that used to have this television shows way back in the day before the internet I remember he had this episode on where he was talking to this guy who is a he was a Trapper and he would live in the bush in Alaska and he would live there and not talk to a single person for months and months at a time and what he would say is that after a while when he was out there by himself he would develop this very bizarre feeling of telepathy of telepathy with animals and that he could read animals Minds he

81:51could almost predict their behavior and movements and he was getting signals from them that he couldn't describe and when he would go back to the town when he would come back after 6 months after a couple hours or a day or so would go away and he was like whatever that thing was when he had no contact with people and he swore by it but again could be a crazy dude out there you know killing muskrats with a giant trap it's anecdotal that's one and we are social mammals mamalian Behavior like families and things like that but I've read that they have found one thing that they're pretty sure that people can tell and that is there's it's very there was rert sheldrick's podcast he was talking about he was saying that one thing that they have studied Beyond statistical probability it shows that when people are stared at like say if you if I turn my back and um you either would look

82:52down at your lap or look at the back of my head that I could tell or someone maybe some people can tell whether or not you're looking at them more than half the time they were more accurate than guessing and it was uh consistent it was pretty consistent it wasn't 100% of the time but it it it wasn't 50/50 it was more like 7030 mhm that was ruper sheld yes interesting things he tells by the way he's an interesting guy you know when the birds in in say the Second World War uh getting into these milk bottles uh with a silver top they learn to pick through mhm and the the distance between say England and uh the Netherlands or Germany Etc is uh divided by uh uh Northern sea and these birds are not able to travel the other side to the other side but the same birds were able able the same species of birds at the other side were able to uh they began to do the same yeah he has a term

84:03for it with monkeys and a morphology or something morphic resonance yeah yeah morphic resonance and the ter what he believes is that when one member of the species attempts to learn something or learn something it becomes far easier for other members of the species even that are separated by vast distances to learn that and I think he said that occurred with rats in a very particular maze that they would teach rats how to get through a particular maze in one part of the world and then Rats the other part of the world uh navigated it much quicker there's uh some interesting stuff when it comes to that stuff I mean interesting it is interesting but it's hard because there a lot of people call and I don't know who's right and you got to kind of go over it with a fine tooth comb and look at everybody's look at their motivations and look at whether or not they're

84:52biased and it's it's very difficult to sort out but Rupert seems like a very thoughtful very interesting guy and he definitely didn't seem dishonest so yeah I'm here to to say a little bit about what we did uh yeah tell me until uh uh since last year so the the goals now are to get it into National Healthcare actually in any every country but America is a little bit a leader there is in and I'm beginning to become quite famous I use it I use it abuse it to get my goals done my mission done which is bringing uh uh belief uh confidence love but now scientifically endorsed showing that we are able to tap in into all those systems and we should actually get it in school in Primary School to begin with and not only uh learn like history and geography and and things like that but now learn uh at a very young age how to uh influence into this hormonal system and immune system

86:10or say happiness strength Health should be subjects and I teach kids of four years old with arthritis they come and they are very able to do breathing exercises going into the cold actually children we teach him to have codes on and uh therefore uh taking away the stimulation of the natural elements thus decreasing the effectivity of their systems inside we make them sick instead of uh protecting them we are comforting them and we think there that Paradigm Shift needs to happen and I'm into that and now it's getting together with the existent health care and uh with universities more and more I think we got to go back to say nature and if a mother is able to guarantee by endorsed by scientific evidence that we are able to tap into to all these systems guaranteeing hey if you just breathe better and take a cold shower and believe connect with your body that you

87:25are able to tap into your health your happiness and your uh strength then that that's something that will bring Mother Nature back in us and awareness there uh uh from will make this world value the nature outside as inside because we lost the connection and I'm now here to bring that and since last year I've progressed you know things like anxiety and fear nobody knows about now I do know what it is I know what it is is biochemical and neurological I talk with professors I teach them they they teach me their language and I teach them the method and together we get uh more out of it uh it's all happening so uh I'm very thankful to be here with you I still got a a joke a joke yes I wanted to say the big joke yeah yeah that's that's another one a little bit I'm thankful to have you here too I really am I'm I'm very appreciative there's not a whole lot of

88:44people that I'll do a late night podcast with but you anytime thanks thanks Joe thanks thanks thanks that's great I I must say and it did me good my podcast with you so many people I didn't know who you were I never give a who where I go to but when I get there and it starts my mirror is the people who are commenting I never look yeah yeah I'm never looking where I go now I never go with a program I don't know they never give me too much information either my those are my children and they work with not they think ah that Daddy let him go well I'm curious to see what the response is this time because the difference in the numbers is staggering like what was the number what was the monthly downloads last year just take a guess probably like 18 15 18 million now it's well over 40 plus YouTube yeah it'll be way more it's more than double that's good that's good because

89:52all the world needs to know about this this is simple accessible effective scientifically endorsed no speculation it's there but now still I got this joke joke I I I wanted to say that that's I'm with Joe and make you I know now you said a comedian before so you can appreciate this I got a joke and it's a big he's big he's big hey is enormous is Orange it's orangutang an orange orangutang yes in the middle of San Francisco oh San Francisco or Los Angeles we are here Los in a big city I mean okay orang tang in a big city you you don't see orangutangs in the you go to the zoo right I don't know where maybe he escaped whatever or he traveled Incognito and with a hat on and a suit big suit must be have been but he walks over there and the sun is shining and it's shining on his long orange hair I thought he was going to say dick yeah but wait a minute it still has to

91:04come shush you over there yeah told you not to give him beer he's like a gremlin oh yeah yeah yeah he doesn't know how to control it his chemistry he's not on audio okay okay and so he's dripping you know this endocrine system is dripping a along as orange hairs and it's flickering together with the sun it looks like wow it's enormous and the light is upon it and he walks through along among the street and big lips big cheeks big claws very peaceful he has no enemy he's just by being himself and he sees this bar and he in his mind kind pops up just this yeah a golden bear and he sees it with then ah he's already dripping from it from his lips he coming down he goes through the door he's got quite some difficulty to get through the door cuz he's so big really squeezes himself through the door and there he sees the stool he goes to the stool and I mean he is really big and

92:31the stool is own only so big so he's got he is into a balancing act not to fall through so so big he is but finally he gets there and he accomplishes this Balancing Act and he's there he that is and of course the bman he he flat into a corner somewhere and he's hey you have a beer so he's he's peaceful he's at ease yes he's peaceful he talks to the bartender he wants a beer does he have money or is he just stealing this beer I don't know he has no pockets but he has got money I don't know why he sted it but it's there okay it's there all right the bomman he very he's very peaceful the the the orangutan so his fear is subsiding and he comes and still and then he gives it to to like this right and then he gets a big claw around this little glass or golden beer liquid looking at it like a little baby he's really enjoying it man and then he puts it back like and he puts a $100 bill on the on

93:58the bar on the on the tap he's a baller yeah and $100 and now suddenly the B man thinks what but because he is very peaceful he is there he enjoyed his beer hey he he got $100 yeah I think I'm I'm going to give him back I'm a shiny going because he doesn't know about the significance of of money and uh he gives him uh the shiny coin and he takes the $100 bill and I don't know where he puts it because he's got no uh Pockets but he puts it somewhere he looks at it and puts it somewhere and then he sits there and finally the bomman got his confidence so much he he asks him hey what about this I never ever saw a orangutang in my bar what is it and orang do you know what kind of prices you are charging and that's the punchline and the thing is the thing is this is the way we think we can M mess up with a trick our inner power who we are strong man but we

95:19always think better about who we are in the dep and he is there for you to enjoy life and to be there strong as mother nature in the future yes I would just recommend just tightening that up a little bit oh yeah it's pretty it's kind of a funny joke it's kind of funny I I knew what was coming towards the end but I'm a professional comedian I knew the joke okay but oh you knew the joke well I knew at the end I I don't even think I'd heard it before but I I knew you always extend I always extend I think and I use it as a metaphor because that's no joke that's real what what's real that the way we trick with our mind we can we think we can trick Mother Nature inside our deeper power our inner power okay I get it it just it was a little shorter probably better right Jamie yeah I mean it was not a bad joke n the big jokes a little better I think so too right I watched an

96:26elephant hit a guy with his trunk I kind of knew that elephant's trunks were powerful I mean I always knew but I had no idea like this guy got too close to an elephant the elephant was eating and it just swatted him with its with his trunk and he went flipping like Head Over Heels Head Over Heels head over heels and it was hilarious he he knocked that thing the way you would flip a beer BK yeah with it with its trunk amazing you just the the the the Epic scale of those animals is just unbelievable when you when you see the the amount of force that they can generate with their nose do you see it yeah put it up Jamie just his eyes went wide his his head snapped back when he saw this watch this this guy got too close watch this he goes to touch it boom crack he's lucky he's still conscious yeah he didn't give a he's like get out of here like you're bothering me I think it's a

97:27female too didn't even have tusks wow it's a female or a juvenile but what where we are on to right now with this research with these findings out of out of nature H next time I will get some new breakthroughs yeah yeah and uh we have to see each other uh again once a year let's do every October yeah Fu it we didn't even plan Let's Make a Deal deal October let's do it we bring that guy in and have him do 80 push-ups that don't buy that at all oh yeah yeah I found a uh free diving message board and there's some people that were asking it's the only thing I found on the entire internet uh some guy claimed he did 72 after taking that Jack 3D stuff with one breath after taking a five minute breathing exercise and then no breaths and he did 72 couple people said they did like 40 or 50 breathing would have helped up like a similar method to this but they weren't talking about that

98:21at all yeah I have a feeling your friend might be a little full of it just doesn't as an athlete as someone who understands the potential of the human body you have to be extraordinary you have to be pretty extraordinary to do 80 push-ups on your own you have to be conditioned it's like something like just to force your muscles depending upon how much you weigh of course but if you're the average 175 lb or whatever the average man is to just to force yourself to do 80 push-ups you have to be in pretty good condition to do that you have to that's a lot of repetition you're essentially I mean it's not like you're bench pressing 175 lbs but it's probably like you're bench pressing 140 like how much would you think it would be like a pushup how much you actually pushing up so if I weigh 200 lb if I'm doing a push-up how much am I actually pushing because I'm not really pushing

99:10200 lb cuz my feet are on the ground and you know there's there's some weight down there how much am I actually pushing it feels like I'm pushing about 13 30 140 lbs when I do a push-up what is that like 60 70% of your body weight probably CL that I guess why don't you Google I was going to try to Google something like yeah Google what percentage of your body weight are you actually lifting when you do a pushup interesting yeah cuz I don't it's definitely not 100 let's analyze it and uh I really began with these push-ups now everybody is of course copying and I know what it that's all okay but I like to I like research I like to in what we are really doing yeah here we go 49% okay regular push-up you lift 64% of your body weight whereas with a knee push-up you okay no knee push-up so a regular push-up 64% of your body weight so for me it's a little over 100 was

100:09that 110 something like that 200b yeah so be 114 right 64 is that right 128 128 okay so that was pretty close 64% so that was pretty close I was thinking it was 13 14 just double to 64 yeah okay oh that makes sense wor so yeah so that's what I thought I can't do 80 push-ups I can't do 80 push-ups is breathing at least I don't think I can I don't do push-ups that much I I bench press heavier weights and I do a lot of other stuff well you scaring me with without breathing you can't even help it your breathing your breathing so powerful just I can't even do that what are you doing now oh that's it this knows what's the world record push-ups how many think the world record in a row I bet it's like 300 there's one that's for without leaving push-up position yeah in 1980 somebody did a 3,072 times for women it's 302 what yeah 3,000 you can you can stay there long all day they

101:16G there's no time limit on that oh so you can go down and rest and then push yourself back up hold yourself up probably even for like an hour if you want Jesus Christ what about in a row what about consecutive no rest there records like in an hour is there a consecutive most push-ups non-stop is 10,500 Jesus Christ holy some Revelation going on oh my God what kind of a freak does 10,000 push-ups oh wait a minute wait a minute look at what they're defining as push-ups oh that's like the look at their push-ups they don't go all the way down those know if this is what they were counting this is details you got to wait with words man they're going halfway you got to touch your chin the world record no Pi so it's defined though it's defined by a specific degree of Bend in your arms what counts as a push-up as yeah it's essentially when your arm your upper arm

102:18is 90° it's when your upper arm is parallel to the ground yeah right that's what it said yeah and your lower arms straight up and down so huh 3,800 an Hour 3 3877 Jesus Christ that's crazy that guy probably couldn't even tie his shoes the next day probably tore himself apart we went to uh we should get whm Hoff together with Louis Simmons about that do you know who Louis Simmons is not yet Lou Simmons is a Madman he's the guy he's um very famous powerlifter and every single part of his body has been broken he's in his 60s and he's been on steroids since 1970 there's Lou Simmons he has no biceps I think in this picture he probably still had biceps it seems like they're still there his biceps have torn off of the uh off of the bone if he lifts his arms over his head he blacks out cuz he's so damaged he has so much neck and and tissue damage damage he's a

103:24Maniac what a character he is though we uh we interviewed him last month we went to his gym he's a really really famous powerlifter he's actually a genius when it comes to the construction of exercise equipment we have one of his uh pieces of equipment in the back it's called the reverse hyper that damn thing changed my life I'll show it to you afterwards you can see it it it actively decompresses the spine see that's uh the lifting up but on the lifting down it goes under the weight goes underneath that bench and it actually pulls apart your spine it decompresses the spine so all the gravity and the stress and all the different you can see how it works it's it's an amazing piece of equipment and he Louie uh invented that he's she's got some great great ideas about powerlifting but he's just like many brilliant people he's insane yeah in a great way in a great way yeah

104:16but anyway you you and him together maybe you could fix him get him breathing he wouldn't he would just start swearing and throwing around do some steroids around LIF great so there I am man yeah I had a lot more facts going on really are progressing with the science and becoming more famous and we are reaching out more and more uh very uh powerful people famous people are beginning to uh get the idea and they will help help me in the in the end I want do charity because I I did already the breakthroughs within the science uh now want to do charity charity aw yes like we were talking about Tanzania and and the reserves and the msai and the MSI before they were the men who are able to stand off a line M so they are dealing with fear they become a a a lion is able to smell fair in uh animals like uh that's reactive it's a it's our hormones but people have it as well and

105:34so that's why we go in cars through these reserves Etc now I found that uh fear is actually coming in within us subconscious fear because we are not a acting natural anymore uh we alienate from from nature and we have fear we are able to walk in the city with an attitude Etc but do it now in front of a lion then you become fearful because you know you are not able to cope with that situation and you have to be peaceful you have to be there but then the lime will not attack you it only attacks when it's hungry and you can see things and all all those things but if you have no fear you could just pass by couple of meters from Alliance in the world what yes and this is what I'm who knows this uh me and the Masai have you done it uh I'm I'm with the Masai don't do it I'm with the Masai and they I'm I'm uh doing this it's called Garden Garden of Eden project that means with really wild

106:44animals like hyenas elephants giraffes Lions I want to show you a picture before you engage in this ridiculous Adventure there's a photo of a there's a a photographer that climbed out of his Jeep do you see that photo remember it was in The Daily Mail where uh there's a series of photographs where a lion was going to pounce on him it literally jumped towards him and and opened its mouth and this guy got photos I think it was inside of like 30 or 40 ft when the the lion finally stopped but they are some of the most terrifying photos um photographer gets shots of lion before it when almost attacked them see if you can find it I I have them on my phone I can show you interesting it was my screen saer on my phone forever interesting um but it you see a situation another situation people go in a jeep through the Safari and see the Lions about 12 of them lying there and

107:44uh you go with the Jeep and then suddenly comes a Messi kid on his bike and all the lions see him and they there he is look at that face oh yeah this that W yeah look at that thing look at looks like L Trope it's way scarier than a werewolf you know why yeah cuz a lion is a lion every day of the week 365 days a year is long as it's alive a werewolf is only a werewolf one day a month yeah yeah only on the full moon that's a goddamn L a werewolf it's kind of funny because that's way scarier than a werewolf it's way bigger than a werewolf interesting look at the face on that thing God nature nature is amazing like that is an Amazing Creation interesting an amazing creature this but are able to stand off I believe it when I say it yes but the thing is Jamie what do you think look that the thing is I want them you know to to create a agency uh with the Masai together and

108:50then have people walk through a res instead of a car under guidance of under guidance of the Masai under guidance of Navy SEALs armed to the tits yes missile launchers and yeah yeah you think so that that helps but it is something it definitely helps that's the only way I'm going okay okay more import gas more important more right I like it um more important is to help the homeless yes and that's why how you going to help them uh you know PTSD and all that we are into University studies right now uh dealing with that and about the homeless they veter like Tony Robins providing for like 100 million meals I'm going to help wherever I can of course I want to do more like there are these uh soup kitchens mhm and um they they do don't ask money for your participation and have say a meal but you can donate so people who are homeless they have no money right so

110:07they are able to eat and those who come there and have alter Meat Meal they are not obliged to give money but they give it anyway and they see the idea behind it the the charity goal behind it and uh uh most of the times they give okay money and it survives it's okay it works now I want these homeless people and not only to have a soup kitchen like that but also work on the land and providing say vegetables and all that for the restaurant and distribute as well in the city I think uh this way we could it's very making them active not just donating and giving food MH but to get them back into uh the infrastructure the the system the civilization among people right that's it well if you could just get them active and give them some hope right there's a lot of people that just almost I think there's there's levels of poverty and despair and I think for some people they're just like on the

111:15edge and maybe just a little bit of help or bring them back off the edge and bring them back into circulation you know I mean yeah yeah that's many people become homeless over time and they weren't before and then it just things don't go well and I know a bunch of I have a bunch of comedian friends that lived in their cars and you know lived on people's couches and were real close to homeless but made it through so it's uh I mean there's VAR various levels and strange thing that thing called civilization yes I mean homeless is a very strange thing right like you don't have a regular place to go and that in our mind is like one of the saddest things like oh you don't have a place for your yeah like you don't have a place what do you how do you watch TV how do you get online do you even have a Facebook you're homeless you know and that's how a lot of us look at it we

112:05look at someone not having a home meanwhile the homeless person or this person who's like a Backpacker or some you know person who's like a traveler they might be way happier and healthier than a lot of people that you see trapped in these homes that are sitting there smoking cigarettes ABS absolutely I mean caring and sharing yeah that is the thing missing will certainly help a lot of people right yeah and uh how to get that to that you know it's abstract now but I'm getting through science but uh I did the science now well isn't it also part I want to do charity that's a great thing man that is great yeah yeah yeah yeah and you helping me right now I'm I'm happy to be helping you don't you think it's maybe a little bit of our society is so competitive and that that competitive nature sort of alienates us from the other people around us we think of them as competitors rather than think

113:00of them as our brothers and sisters I think there's there's a there's a lack of clarity when it comes to the the actual real amount of time that we have here we don't really have that much time it seems like a lot of time but I'm 49 how old are you yeah 57 yeah it goes quick right yeah all of a sudden it's you know I'm am still going to go do a whole man course no I'm not saying you're not going to I'm not saying you're not going to but you it's going fast it's going fast but we broke through and what you did is also very memorable commemorable it's good we got to bring more Consciousness and we got we if we are really strong we protect the the the weak and those who are not able to you know we give love we do it in our way you do it by creating awareness I do it by signs and and try to do now charity and we got to head it on one way or another if and also

114:02through inspiration I think that's another thing you're doing you're inspiring people to do something and take positive action and that often times is the best thing you could do rather than to help them or to give them help you're providing them with their their own self-help wow I I just came from San Francisco now to to meet you here yeah I think uh once again honor great me too good feel feelings Mutual thanks very much I I I saw homeless people over there but you know big guys and looking good and a certain moment I think San Francisco why don't you do something about this San Francisco is infested with acceptance they have too much acceptance they've gone so far over the edge that they've made it easy for people to you know just kind of off and hang out on the street and then there's also the very real problem of mental illness and uh homeless veterans

115:03people as you said before that are PTSD there's a there's a wide spectrum of reasons yeah yeah why people become homeless but San Francisco is very accepting of it it's the most accepting City I've ever been to when it comes to homeless people but it's also one of the reasons why San Francisco is so great like they're so open-minded I lived there when I was a kid I lived in San Francisco from age 7 to 11 and it was a different San Francisco because San Francisco now is All Tech Giants and and billionaires and real estate I I did things over there now oh my God real estate prices are insane San Francisco is one of the most insane places in the world when it comes to real estate prices when I was a kid it was it was hippies because when I was there it was during the Vietnam war and uh my stepdad was a hippie my mom was kind of a hippie and we lived in a hippie neighborhood it

115:50was just hippies it was just it was weird it was like it was all gay and hippies and um it's not really like that anymore even the gay people like they're kind of getting pushed out San Francisco is always kind of synonymous with gay people it's not I mean it's more Tech now than anything else and just extraordinary wealth but they still are very open-minded very Progressive it's a very left-wing sort of liberal kind of a town which has its pluses and minuses you know it's just you know the tolerance is excellent it's really good but some I mean when you have that many homeless people like something's not right what is that thing I mean uh I would be it would be very arrogant of me without any work or investigation whatsoever to try to give some sort of an explanation for what it is but a lot of it's got to be connected to how liberal they are they're just so they're

116:42so open-minded there just accepting I think it is also you know a problem throughout America you know the difference between the real rich and and the poor and uh but they in Baltimore for example I saw a documentary lat lately about this is the shame of America and they told it in the documentary and things like that and now they do these programs of with meditation and breathing in the schools and they yes in Baltimore and they got a lot of success the their their mental state their psych is a lot better now and just because of minding and that's what we need to get into school in in schooling breathing mindfulness yeah know that would be an amazing thing for kids for people Baltimore Elementary School Nick's detention from mindful meditation wow there there you got that's amazing and children are very able to do that that can change lives oh yes that can truly truly change lives

117:47because you you can give a child instead of this horrible thing where they feel terrible themselves you give them a reset absolutely that's awesome we need more out of the box thinking because the the standard thinking of raising kids I mean I don't know what school's like in Holland where you're from but here in America where I went to school it it it was terribly confining like you had to think a certain way you have to study certain things and if you weren't interested in those things you they made you feel like a loser yeah if you weren't interested in math it was boring to you to study certain things they made you feel like you were a fool and you were never studies that they no the the real the most important assets of Life happiness strength and and and uh and uh uh Health also they should be subjects into school boom bang and embracing creativity embracing creativity as an

118:44option for you doing something with your life no one ever tells you that you could you could be creative for a living that you could be a sculptor or painter an artist or a musician or a standup comedian or an author that's never offered up you have to get a job you have to get a job you have to work for somebody else or start your own business and hire some people that is it's like if you look at the the standard places that people go once they graduate from high school or college it's usually to get a job so they push you in that direction like this there's no individual attention you not you don't feel unique you don't feel special you don't feel like you have chance of making it outside the system you have to fit into the system that they're presenting to you these are your college courses these are your college options you know your GPA is not so good so

119:31you're going to have to go here and that's going to suck CU then your job options is going to be limited or you can go to Community College and try to bring it up and you're like oh my God all this work and then I'm going to take a job that's going to suck and it's just soul sucking for me I mean for some people those options seem like a wonderful idea but they don't offer you a lot of choices there's not there's not like the the the creative fields are not embraced and I think that's a real problem because many many many many kids I have little K creativity is the means to express the Soul's purpose well they and there's only 7% in the world population that is being creative Is that real yeah to rest his into his system that's crazy almost you know but 100% of little children cre sodomizing the the soul it's not letting the soul Express itself I mean the soul nobody

120:25knows what it is but creativity expressing your being that that that makes the world so beautiful actually and now it's becoming like a gray area feeding a system and and and and nobody knows how to stop this or what this system needs to turn around and begin to look how can we serve your happiness strength and health because strength uh strength uh uh strong uh healthy and happy people will make up a great system we have gone too far now we need to come back uh into self-awareness and we are proving this H simply that we are able to do so much more therein well I think there's just a lot of momentum that's that is attached to our education system and to our job options once we graduate from from school and this momentum is very difficult to someone to step away from because most of the time by the time someone graduates from college you're already in debt you you

121:30are in debt from credit cards you're in debt from student loans Mone Mone Mone and you have to make money in order to pay that debt off and so you immediately go right into the workforce and then if if you're tired after working all day and most people find it very difficult to find a way to break free yeah and to to pursue their real dreams whatever they are you know songwriting or you know being an author so being whim Hof yeah yeah yeah I had to find my way yeah what did you used to do for a living all kinds of things I like I I've been a a teacher and you teach a postman English yoga uh you taught yoga yes no kidding oh I know stuff you just do do all kinds of exercises well I've seen some of the crazy poses you can get into I imagine you teach yoga so uh and um say mountaineering uh uh instructor or going into Mountain guide uh Mountain guiding canyoning all those things um uh

122:35Postman uh working in the H har the harbor you know ships unloading ships Harbor yeah um many things where wherever I could lay my hands because I didn't finish any schooling m I'm a self-made man I speak many languages I but I all taught them myself and learned a lot about philosoph what language do you speak uh right now English besides of my own language uh uh Dutch but then also French and German and polish and Spanish and Italian wow and even Japanese and you speak those languages as well as you speak English no because you need to practice right you do not use it you lose it sort of but it's all in there so your primary is English and Dutch or dut Dutch first right yes and then German Spanish then French that's amazing and you learn these from books yes books and talking to people just talking Yes W but what about the grammar I mean I would imagine the

123:43difference between you take up books once you begin to understand a couple of language you know the the logic of the languages right and it becomes easier to take up a language what did you want to do what I wanted to do is like when you young I'm doing right now really yes I was really looking up 18 years old 19 years old when you're a young man really I was into changing the world I was into I was so far out H doing crazy stuff like from 170 years on I began to go into the cold being inspired by uh anthropology who went into Tibet and talked about the gumo discipline the Buddhist the esoteric disciplines of the Budd of Buddhism and yeah they call yeah cities within the yoga and all those and oh cities SI like cities of levitation yes and all those things and Japan and the samurai in all that I was very very intrigued why because I think they found a way to show

124:56that the depth is existent but it takes years and you got to go like a caveman in and and and isolate to become a a guru or an adapt into these yogic practices and it's all very secretive and uh and things like that and uh I was looking in into that and why I think it has got something to do with my birth it was traumatic it was one of the identical twin and I was born quite too late not really too late but it made a real psychic imprint when I came without too much of oxygen almost suff some fear and Trauma and and yes and uh and uh and too cold in a in a place and I was born delivered over there so I think that made a psychic imprint which had an absolute influence in my growing uh and then later hey what's happening I always were have been looking into psychology different uh disciplines religions Etc are always more interested than my identical twin brother he's actually a normal guy

126:15working like 925 like everybody you know maybe you could get him to play you in some places when you can't get there we had these things going does he grow his hair like you h no no no got a meat in the middle it's yeah but we did tricks we did tricks CU we look so much like each other and uh if he wanted to have say even we could trick our mother what about girlfriends girlfriend so no no comment did you um do you do you guys have the same amount of gray in your beard and the whole deal like if you stand next to each is different now what does he look like he's more bold than I am more stress but I think more stress yes does he exercise and uh exercise yeah but he took up a lot of what I am doing but I really in my mind I go a lot further than he is able to and that's interesting that you correlate that with your birth that you were born after him and that it was there was some trauma

127:21involved yes yes some stress so yeah yeah this absolutely it made a psychic imprint and later my life I began to look into that and you know the first time I went into this cold water I I had this connection with that trauma because no other way gave me this connection with this deep trauma and I didn't know where it was who who inflicted it or my mother tell told me later and then it made sends to me oh that's why that's why I like I like it in the cold and because I was born in the cold almost suffocated that's why I do these breathing exercises and feel good finally I'm able to tap into that traumatic imprint and change the chemistry at will controlled and then I found out I was able to do so much more because now I was able to do it consciously and uh from there uh I got into the television then I got into the science and it appears to be that I found also a way to tap into what we

128:30call say trauma PTSD emotion fear uh depression and uh uh not only that autoimmune diseases possibly cancer that we still got to find out of course but I think Nature's got the Nature has got the solutions for us but we need to get go back into nature and the the nature is all inside we all got the the the faculties the abilities to wake them up and to bring them within our control and now we have shown that scientifically within a couple of days you are able to tap in all those systems how far we can go still needs time what do you think about the effect of modern civilization traffic just just stress and pollution environment pollution pollution the air things like that what kind what kind of an effect do you think that has on absolutely wrong effect to chemical uh deregulation biochemical deregulation up till the DNA bam so epigenetical uh not only genetically but

129:40during the life you go talk about epigenetics that we are able to influence into the genome structure of the D but that with existent smog stress uh negative thoughts and radiation of things and I don't know all these that we mess up the chemistry we are dealing with chemistry we we eat food which is now not really food anymore and we get we are built with our systems are able to do with natural food and natural tribal be being like taking care of each other brothers and sisters like tribal that's the way and what we do now is competition is creating a whole lot of stress uncontrolled getting on us all the time why to serve a system instead of uh happiness strength and health it's not being served anymore everybody running behind his deadline and then on top of that we get food which is no which is messed with so we create a lot of difficulties for our

130:58physiology that works back on our brain because it's piece of meat inside and it's just working on biochemics and we are messing with that so what I found in nature is actually a shortcut to learn to cleanse all the all the pollution creating a wrong chemistry creating deregulation of the DNA and causing the body not to be able to deal with say disease uh sickness and depression and all these things do you live in nature like where where do you live you live in a city I right now I live in a say a little village a little village small town yes but it not too stressful it does not matter I can live anywhere you can live in New York City absolutely yes but wouldn't you freak out all the you oh no break dust no no I I used to sit as a exercise on the middle of the square of the one most traffic squares of big city in the in the Netherlands which is Amsterdam and uh and just meditate on

132:07the Square huh and with all the cars coming going boom bo bo and uh actually had a great time really yes where so you used it as a like an exercise yes sir like a stressor come on yeah so all that chaos and Madness you found your peace inside of all that you really are able to distance there from and witness how it works on your systems your uh uh nervous system and you and the nervous system then is able to deal with that you become so tranquil and the more it it tries to get to you these are also exercises of yogic yog they sit with four fires be around them or in the cold what I also did and all that the extremes are it's extremely great the feeling which derives if you just witness and let go interfering in the systems working with the impact of what is going on which could be stress in anyway so you find your own inner peace amid it's all that noise and that's the way our mind can

133:25work that's what I do when my wife tells me boring stories I don't even listen I just go into my Center K dang and I have to like pay attention to the inflection that might indicate a question God damn it that mean you women and when that that comes you know and I go oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah women can be very uh stressful they know you so can men I hate to date a man track you down women are way better than men in that regard I think men are probably more stressful especially if you're banging them right yeah Jamie you know what I'm talking about I love them I love them I love them I love my wife I love my girlfriend take my wife please it's hen young joke so uh easy does it what else is going on should we wrap this up you got more to tell us no no no it's all about love and it was very able to be here I feel no stress whatsoever I did by but uh there's a whole lot more coming but I

134:29think the gist of it has been discussed has been uh gotten out and it is uh life so so interesting so beautiful I thank you for you uh being a big window for so many and uh I I thank you for being a part of it it means a lot to me to to have you come back on it means a lot to me to be able to uh to share like a lot of your ideas with the world and give you a platform and um I think what you're doing is amazing it's it's it's incredible be it's not just incredible because it's so effective and it's so scientifically proven it's also incredible because it's so rare that there's not that many people doing this and if there are they're not talking about it the way you are and they're not subject themselves to scientific research and I think that's that's one of the more amazing things about it because uh just like that guy what was your friend's name Scott Carney is that what his name was

135:25Scott Carney he of course you know you hear these stories and you probably assume that you're some sort of a a guru crazy person running a cult but then he gets to meet you and he goes oh this is one of the rare Real Deals there's not a lot of Real Deals out there there's not a lot of people who are really living in extraordinary life and you whm Hoff are living an extraordinary life Wow great and as long as people like you and me and everybody who's in the same real exist we help the the ones who are helps us yes the the the poor and and and the weak who are not able to do we are the strong man and you know the American natives they got a you are being measured by the way you give and that means not money it means love it means effectiven for uh children to feel no stress and grow up uh for being great human beings because human be being a human being

136:31should be something very very beautiful on this beautiful planet yeah I agree man I I try to express to people that these shows would not be possible if people weren't listening I wouldn't do them nobody would be willing to it's kind of an interesting thing about podcast cuz I couldn't just get you to here and just sit and talk to me and nobody else would hear for hours and hours the ver the the actual mechanism of doing a podcast the act of doing a podcast allows me to to listen to these people like you and all these other interesting people that I I so lucky to get to talk to so I benefit from it tremendously but it wouldn't exist without other people listening so the fact that people are listening is what makes me have these things in the first place we thank the people who are listening right now oh from from our heart yes absolutely absolutely if it

137:24wasn't for them like that that sounds so cliche hey if it wasn't for you guys we couldn't do it but there would be no reason there would be no there would be no motivation if if it wasn't for people listening that there would be no show it wouldn't exist I would never have met you I've would never met all the extraordinary people that I've met I'm very eager to to see what this is uh going to do and because the last time I met you and afterwards well it's I hear Joe Rogan everywhere everywhere everywhere since then so I came here and now well I'm going to go to Joe Rogan but then at a certain moment my the the the expectation heaviness fell off I'm just going to say my thing yeah and being lied with him just have a good time like last time and I had and we did we had a great time I think oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah was great it was great you've uh become friends with my friend Chris Ryan

138:21oh yeah hey oh that's his shirt that's right man civilized to death civilized to death yeah I love Chris he's awesome I do a podcast with him and Duncan trussle we call it the shrimp parade we do it uh it's just like completely informal like we'll do one episode of my podcast then we'll do one episode of Duncan one episode of Chris's and we just sort of rotate back and forth between each other when Chris is in town but Chris was living in Barcelona for a little what little bit but now he's back so but he loves you too had a great time with you yeah yeah yeah I just had a podcast with him I say a week ago or something together with a professor I don't remember his name well his podcast for people want to listen it's called tangentially speaking and it's available on iTunes and it's available on uh is it Chris ryan.com is that his uh Dr Chris ryan.com maybe

139:15Chris Ryan phd.com Chris Ryan phd.com um I think that's also his Twitter handle and Chris is awesome he's he's a great Storyteller he's a brilliant brilliant guy and he also has a great book um what is it about the sex the dawn sex of dawning of dawning of sex what it what is it called sex atong sex at dawn sex at dawn yeah it's a great book so good that my friend's wife threw it in the garbage it's so good my friend's wife threw it in the garbage she started reading she goes you are not reading this and she chucked it in the trash yeah I do not agree really with this sexual you know explanations about how it went and why we have these urges like from the prehistorics mhm we you don't agree he's a scientist yeah yeah yeah he is scientist that right now we have a ability to consciously choose our woman uhhuh and in this world it's not about going and spres see everywhere no just

140:23be with one woman consciously you know in that's not really what he's saying what he's saying he's sort of trying to explain the the yeah yes I know the origins of these urges and I think he's very intelligent and what he does is great work because he wakes up a whole lot of uh people it's very yeah it's very controversial but it's very rooted in science he he's got this story with this cat a cat yeah making sex with the cat he had sex with a cat yeah you tell that story I feel like he did tell that story not really you got a boner cat not really that one but you know we figuring out what what a cat cat sexuality was all about it right I did it always with my dogs oh boy should end the show five minutes ago on the on the leg and all that I mean we all we weit yeah yes yes because we want to find out there shouldn't be no Taboo in sex we should have proper education therein yes we

141:32have America supress sexual behavior yes and then it gets into these perverted ways anyway because it's a power and it is not able to grow into love yes and that should be how we end this yes don't ress be loving yes sir rock on Wim Hoff right on thank you my brother really appreciate it thank you always we're going to do it again next October yes sir pleasure ladies and gentlemen thank you good night