Wim Hof

00:01and boom we're live you're here thanks a wolf t-shirt on nonetheless yes endurance you know is that what it is yeah something I bought it this morning I I thought it's of the lot Indians and the Venice Beach uh Venice Beach Lakota Indians they're probably not legit Pakistan or something oh yeah yeah probably but uh the symbol it symbolizes endurance but not you know not physical endurance do I did stuff but uh more like uh believing you have a very fascinating life my friend and you have done some amazing things i' I've been paying attention to you for the last couple months uh pretty pretty intensely and leading up to this podcast I've been researching you a lot and uh first of all I want to know how did all this get started for people who don't know who you are you've you've accomplished a ton of World Records um you've endured things that most people think may be

01:03physically impossible you've proven they're possible you've shown that you can alter your immune system on demand you can you can regulate levels of stress hormones that people thought were un unable to be controlled by the human mind that we're autonomous and you're doing this all like on your own I've never heard of anybody else doing this first of all how did you get started in this and what led you to this yes um like many probably I was in a soul search and uh I visited many uh countries Traditions languages esoteric disciplines and also like you you know karate and Kung Fu and yoga and but also the derish the Sufi Buddhism uh all kinds of traditions and and disciplines but it could not really fulfill me in the depth a certain uh day uh it was a Sunday I was attracted to cold water I don't know why but uh uh because I was seeking already for years you have a charge

02:15within you you always keep on looking searching seeking and at that moment I felt the attraction and I know I'm I'm going to go in you know ice water and it only took me um uh 30 seconds or one minute it took but I felt this is it this is able to connect me with the depth of my physiology the way Nature has meant it to be so it felt too good I felt connected this is not something you were drawn to before not really yeah per accident it was more conscious at that moment and uh from there I began to do it every day 17 years old I was then that's about 38 years ago and uh from there I began to do it uh on daily uh you know every day and this is in Holland that this is in the Netherlands and the Netherlands in it's cold water water transmits the temperature like 25 times more than the air so um but I I I returned the other day and uh and the other day because I felt so good I felt

03:31connected and it's all about it's all about the connection uh within which I was looking for the depth which I could not find in books I I read about hundreds of books in on philosophy on on religion on esoteric disciplines uh all kinds of books you know searching searching searching but the answer is not in the head the answer is in the body and the brain together and cold water triggered this and then from there on uh the cold water at a certain point uh when you do it regularly you become conscious your breathing pattern is going to change because you got to be more effective you need more oxygen to withstand the impact of the cold and that needs oxygen it needs combustion in the cell and um feeling it I was doing that and I changed my breathing pattern and when I changed my breathing pattern is when the magic began then I began to see you know Lights by manipulating the

04:40breathing uh differently lights like how so yeah they in in the yoga they call it the chakras in in China they call it the Kei the chi and and so forth and uh I found out uh that this was very possible in a very short period of time and this is nothing someone's showed you how to do this is something you figured out on your own the cold is my only Master the cold is my only teacher and the breathing when you say you altered your breathing patterns like what do you mean exactly like uh when I went in at a certain point I knew how to be you know very relaxed going in and then let the cold impact uh go within and then begin breathing deeper and then then a certain dance between the cold and your bre breath begins to start up begins to charge your body and after 25 breaths like that very conscious in the cold the cold is a forest and it has its impact and

05:53you go along with the cold and what it does in the uh phys on the physiology and you you use your breathing now I know what happens physiological but then those days it was all by feeling after what does happen physiologically you become fully charged the the carbon dioxide goes out H O2 get begins to roam freely throughout the body and fills up every cell and pH levels go up no when you when you say you altered your breathing what you're showing me here is just breathing in and breathing out like what is what's specifically different about that than normal breathing the the way I used it um was like after 25 breaths uh was so fully charged uh I I I could stay like 5 to S minutes under the ice every time very controlled and that means that there is not only a whole lot of oxygen inside the body and the but the pH levels go up now this and later on I began to

07:02understand by Signs by by thinking about it and yeah deducting and all that I I saw that uh that we are able to tap into the brain Stam the adrenaline we showed lying and bad people uh producing more adrenaline now I know how to show to people just in a couple of days that means every listener right now is able to do that so we have proven this scientifically and it showed that people lying in bed were able to produce more adrenaline than somebody in fear going for its first bungy jump a bungee jump and when but you're still I'm still confused as to how you're you're doing anything differently other than deep breathing you're taking a deep breathe in and deep breathe out and no we retent from breathing after exhalation retent uh we stop breathing after exhalation once breathe in like show me the method like if if you if you go with me 30 times okay let go okay fully in once again

08:14fully in letting go right on fully in but Letting Go not fully out just letting go but fully in once again and once again come on don't hesitate give it it's about changing the chemistry right now in your body so I'm breathing in you be become lightheaded and at a certain point you're so fully charged and the pH levels go to a very high level you are able to stay without air in the lung for a minutes just keep on that feeling is understanding go on and deeply in let him go deeply in letting go deeply in letting go 10 times more deeply in letting go deeply in letting go I'm going to time it letting go deeply in Let It Go give it fully take him in let him go take him in let him go take him in let him go no hesitation I do this with over him as well and he feels wonderful take a in fully letting go okay five times more deeply in letting go deeply in letting go deeply in Let It Go two times

09:56more letting go and stop just stop witness without air in the lungs you are able to stay much more than normally than normally why because we changed your Chemistry carbon dioxide went out O2 went up filled up all the cells and the pH levels go up then we are able to tap into the U central nervous system and at the end we got the brain stem and that's the place of the pineal gland hypothalamus pituitary gland and the pineal gland makes the secretion of adrenaline in dangerous situations normally we do not get into it because of of our shallow breathing but this is the way to get into the the most primitive part The Reptilian Brain without many difficult and fend off bacteria getting better into the endocrine systems we'll talk about it later you past one 1 10 in minutes and you're still on that shows that the capacity to fill yourself up with oxygen

11:17is a lot uh uh more than we normally use and as we do not use it we are not making a use of the full capacity of our physiology now we found out we got a different layers and we never use it and this is the way to learn to use it to tap in and bang into the Primitive brain into the endocrine systems immune systems the way Nature has meant it to be everybody is able to do it 145 and this is only round one if it would do like three rounds you would go to 3 minutes 4 minutes without air without training it only shows the capacity to store up oxygen inside we never use that you're doing great see he doing already two 25 almost 210 whenever you feel the urge to breathe you don't need to force it's only learning how to oxen the body and all the cells you're going great man nice one feel good huh hey yeah yeah yeah that's okay 230 yeah when you feel the urge to breathe

12:32you breathe in fully and keep it for 10 15 seconds then that's one round fully in and keep it and now you press your belly the neck and then the head and now you are able to tap into the brain Stam and yeah that's him if we would do it again you would you know I got very lightheaded it was interesting and the breathing the breathing in part so what to to explain to people at home what I'm doing is I'm breathing in all the way as deeply as I can but I'm not breathing out all the way yeah I'm just breathing out a little bit and then I'm breathing in more and I'm just breathing out a little bit I'm breathing in more and I'm breathing out a little bit yes H if you Brea breathe in completely you got all the oxygen possible inside if you just let go then you get it to uh where the exchange of the gases happen and uh this is the way B to oiz the body so it's a different way to get into

13:43the chemistry of the body and we we have shown this now you that's one of the fascinating things if if people are listening this go this guy's crazy yeah all you you're definitely crazy crazy my in a beautiful way in a beautiful way I know I know what you've done is you've allowed scientists to test you every step of the way and you've proven that all this is true when we're saying these things I mean this is these are things that have been studied at universities what was the University in Holland that rbout University rodb and they injected you with an endotoxin endotoxin yes to prove that you can you can Auto regulate your immune system exactly exactly uh normally it is it's a controlled experiment and they did did it with thousands of people already and nobody was able to control uh to the depth of the immune system because the endotoxin provokes a

14:43response in the immune system you you become feverish you get headaches all over agne uncontrolled shivering vomiting uh you know things like that happen but uh the the people I trained first I did it myself then they said yeah but you are the Iceman you are an exception on the rule and you confirm the rule because of this no I said anybody can do this now why would they say that you confirm the rule if they have a rule and one person can do something different then the rule doesn't work it's not a rule anymore it is that that's absolutely true between us but in science it only works it's only validated if it is a group who is doing it right but the how many in the group are doing your method the thing when when when they test normal people on things the the amount of people that are doing what you're doing and trying these kind of experiments and going

15:38under ice and breathing the way you're breathing it's almost none worldwide I mean I'm sure more people now are inspired to do it because of you but so I don't understand how they could say that you confirm the rule because you don't ad you know you don't it doesn't apply to you yeah that's a saying you know exception confirms the rule that's a a d saying so I I I told her yes I'm the Iceman I got so much experience I did so many challenges and Records but no the thing my mission is to show that everybody is able to tap in their H physiology a lot deeper just in a couple of days and it has been shown 12 people in a comparative study 12 people been instructed and 12 people noninstructed the noninstructed people got got to be sick all of them and the instructed people all of them were not sick now this endotoxin what exactly is the endotoxin the endotoxin is a is a part

16:41of a bacteria and the immune system recognizes it as a as an a negative Intruder so uh that's why it is a controlled experiment and uh this is the way they inject it mhm and they try to learn about the immune system the endocrine systems by doing this controlled experiments on many many people all over into world now prior to doing this what made you think that you could do this like what what what convinced you that you could actually regulate your immune system to react to a response that was injected into your body like that yeah now you're now now you're talking too now we begin to talk uh like 25 years ago I already stated and told everybody the autonomic nervous system and the immune systems related to the autonomic nervous system can be influenced can the autonomic nervous system will be no longer autonomic and it is what I told many people mocked me because of it and

17:45they told me negatively that I was crazy and all that see 25 years ago you were in your 20s then yeah yeah no no no yeah 30s okay and how old do you know uh 56 okay uh yeah 56 um but then I told it then and now it's scientifically proven uh yeah it's a why because I inside I know so you're this 31y old guy and you have this this idea in your head that you can control your your your your immune system yes what what what gave you this thought that you could do this you know in the beginning when I was 17 years old as the story began I went into the cold and I it just felt good it I felt connection after years of searching as then you have a certain kind of knowledge you know from the inside also the god feeling and intuition and that's more than the uh what we think and this is not a reaction to how your body felt when you got out of the water like you're saying I feel

18:53like I get less sick I feel like I'm healthier this is just it was that too yes yes but it was also you you felt internally that you were controlling it like you could feel it yes yes oh yeah you get a real sense listen you are a fighter for example you got opponent but this time the opponent is yourself and uh and you know it from the inside and you feel it from the inside and it makes you happy it makes you strong and makes you healthy and this is what we have lost from nature and now it's back so so in a sense what you've done is you tapped into something extremely Primal by dealing with one of the most primal elements of all which is cold yes so the cold like in the vice documentary I thought was really fascinating you said cold is your god yes it is yeah if I had a teach I've never had a teacher that's a that's amazing and no guru or or Mentor or SAU

19:58or anything like that the cold that's my teacher that's my guy I've been dodging the cold since I was a little kid it's amazing you just felt compelled to jump into that yes absolutely and what was when you're saying this to people when you're 31 years old and you're telling people I can control my immune system they must have been like you're out of your mind look at this guy's jumping in the freezing water and he says he can control his immune system how did you convince people to the point that you got actual scientists to measure your blood do legitimate scientific studies on you like what was it your accomplishments like you you went for people who don't know you you did a bunch of really unbelievable tasks you you climbed Everest in your shorts um did you have shoes on when you climbed Everest yes I had to with spikes spikes otherwise to slippery and iath no shirt on just

21:00it's a I think going buy clothes is insane because it's like you're not challenging nature you can go up with with a car as well mhm and and then you go up Everest right anything artificial you use in nature doesn't uh make you having the right connection with nature and what I wanted to challenge in all the challenges I did like marathons beyond the polar Circle in mid winter shorts but also In the Heat of the desert without drinking or hanging by one finger on one a half kilome like a mile in up in the air What in in winter time you hung up by one finger a mile up in the air yes yes where was this and alter in Holland between two hot air balloons and then climbing between them and then there was a you know a thing a device I could you just hooked it on with one finger how long did you hang there for uh 25 seconds Jesus Christ 25 seconds and with one finger and in winter time

22:05oh my God in winter time you know you lose control when the blood becomes colder in the hands yeah you lose control so that was the challenge it's mind over matter and I wanted to show that in all the challenges the Adaptive power of ours is enormous but as we are not stimulating or using that anymore you get a neglected body and become sick or half Po in its potency it's all very logic so the the powers that our body has the untapped powers that we probably had for Millennia dealing with the cold dealing with the heat dealing with adversity dealing with struggle all those powers are not being tapped into so because of that the body just atrophies and we don't it doesn't know what to do with itself exactly you you think that that may be also a cause of depression yes I'm uh right now into new research as soon as I I want to um do research uh they did research on

23:10mindfulness for example mindfulness uh uh related to depression and um I think not only me also psychiatrists they saw the blood values the markers in the blood with within our study and most probably our method this what we just did brings the people uh very much faster into controlling their endocrine system the endocrine system is about hormonal uh uh uh balances in the body and but because we are not able to tap into that we are victimized because of too much stress or this or the daily life or whatever and we get depressed and we are not able to get out of it now this method because of tapping into the endocrine systems makes you feel you are able to rebalance the hormonal dis disturbance in the body creating uh uh eventual uh uh in length the depression so I want research on this because this is my wife died in 95 because of suicide I have four

24:21children with her I was powerless then my heart was broken and uh had no money no nothing and then this struggle and this fight began I'm going to prove this to the world and uh and create a shortcut for anybody who is depressed or you know sick and everything now we got a key we got key to the endocrine systems and the immune systems and anybody can do this and because it is done by science it's beyond speculation we make it a choice and that's why I'm on Mission and this Mission brings me here to Joe Rogan who's a good guy he's a fighter himself and he loves life and he brings it out and he tries people out I can see I can tell and try people out yeah yeah try people who are you what are you doing and things are that it's a I like it I I love it and we need to do this because we got to change this world where there is no control I mean we can build build we can fly to the moon we

25:31can make this is more intelligence than the whole Apollo 13 project yes we can we can this is the fruit of our mind and the the power of our mind is enormous but now it is time to use the same power to learn to control our happiness strength and health and we have shown this now so you feel like the the what happened with your wife that your your wife killed herself was due to depression and you feel like that that type of depression the depression that a lot of people experience is because their their mind is not stimulated the way it was intended to by nature is that a fair way of describing your your thoughts abely absolutely and that we're left with a a residual effect of civilization in a way where your mind is it's overwhelmed with things that really are not natural like living in a cubicle the stress of office life traffic things that aren't aren't natural exactly we

26:36are living toward the system but it should be going around right the system once again should serve our happiness strength and health and now we have proof that we are able to tap into the endocrine systems and the immune system far deeper so we got to try this and it is natural anybody can do this in just a couple of days right now we are in the third year of the University books here in America the the testing the ican it's not about me anymore it's about the comparative study H and then it tells the endocrine systems and the immune systems and it only takes one guy is endurance you know belief that we are able to tap in deeper into our pH physiology thus abling enabling the person to uh to direct his hormonal secretions strength for example lying in bed as we told already producing lying in B there's no roseros coming to that guy no he's that is and he controls completely the stress

27:52hormone and a controlled stress hormone works like medicine a non-controlled stress hormone works in the end acidic and that becomes no good and that's we are victimized because we have no control in daily life anymore but the stress is there so the stress is there but there's no physical exertion yes and that's why they've shown tests that in many cases um exercise can be just as good as anti-depressants just as good as medication for people who are depressed which totally makes sense if what you're saying is right it totally makes sense that your your body like has a desire to exert itself and it is a built-in system that's designed to deal with certain natural stresses running from predators dealing with the cold and dealing with weather and climate and and nature and the adversities of the environment as far as like challenging yourself climbing Hills and exerting yourself we

28:49don't do that that much and because of that that's what you think leads to this this this disease of the brain yes and you know for many people who are depressed they are quite unable to H get into their body and and begin to run and things like that uh it's a it's a it's the brain and we we are going to solve this by very easy techniques instead of them uh having to run because their environment is really pressing upon them they feel completely immobilized but if you are able to tap into the brain and let him make feel the change that he is changing the the the chemistry of the brain then he becomes a different person uh much faster so um but yeah I'm a subject to science and I want more research on this and soon it we have the outcomes and and then we will tackle this problem with the depression because it's related to the endocrine systems and having no connection with it normally the

30:00hypothalamus in our primitive brain the brain stem is not under our control but these breathing techniques deriving from being in the cold so much they are very effective not only in the cold which is stress but also in the heat also for a predator also on Mount Everest where there is a lock lack of oxygen outside and also for daily stress now what was the first one of these experiments that you tried to do to to try to show the the effectiveness of your methods the I was at the physiological Department in the same University different department and that's the called physiological department and I stood there for 80 minutes in a tank full of ice for 80 minutes fully connected to wires being uh uh blood was taken so you just covered in ice covered in ice I've seen the pictures of it it looks insane EXA ex except for this arm because the blood was taken away from it um and they you

31:12know what they saw uh and I was talking to these people H to these professors who were well everything was because I was very much in control and they saw the core temperature even Rising while I was inside your core temperature was Rising while you're covered in ice for 80 minutes yes yes and you see how much power we have how much you know how much power coal can be and but how much more power we are able to learn to control and and that the blood taken from me while I was in the tank I got a a few remarkable results one is um the blood taken it was exposed to endot toxine afterwards but in a laboratory without me xfo it's called and they saw normally it has a a very uh violent reaction on the immune cells in the in the in the in the glass of the you know the laboratory and uh this time 0% 100% suppression and that's my blood 100% 100% so the endotoxin just gets

32:25squashed the moment it gets in there and that's the bacteria yeah and that's the immune system and that's the way we are actually built uh uh to be able to and uh that was one another remarkable thing before I was going into the tank they took blood from me as well and this Blood was looked upon into it by a microscope and they saw um 300 100% more metabolic activity in the cell without moving that's the mind my mind was already into I go inside that one in that box I need to do 80 minutes I program my on up till cell level what I'm about to do I need more energy because energy is needed to uh withstand the impact of the cold so I control my body by my mind and that's all of us and this mind then makes the connection with the hypothalamus which is the brain stem and that is able to control the hor uh the hormonal system the immune systems the vascular system all the systems now

33:48when you say that your metabolic rate Rose 300% is that a normal thing because of the cold because that that's one thing that they tell you that it's a great way to lose calories just dress very lightly when it's cold outside and it forces your body to work hard to stay warm so it was an effect of that yeah it was it was it was and that's also a thing about the brown fat ATP POS uh we got all these cells but as we never expose to cold anymore it doesn't uh it's not stimulated it's like a muscle you not a train it becomes weaker so we got Al also these cells which needs stimulation I did experiments with the brown fat adpost and the and the nuclear uh uh Department of nuclear uh uh medical uh Department in mastri a different University and it showed that I had uh the same brown fat adpost levels as a young man like 20 years 15 years they still have it but you get

34:55older and you wear clothes and you get you lose it it's logical but I always expose myself to cold on a regular basis so uh they had me exposeed as well to in an experiment like that and they saw that I with the same level of or amount of adpo brown fat adipose cells I could produce five time more uh more energy that's what they saw so compared to these guys because of the breathing and influencing into on Cell level I was able to do five times more and this could be a solution for people who have overweight because when the fat is consumed which is very um in the moment when you need it then H it gets depleted then uh the rest of the the the white fat in the body is being withdrawn very systematically very effectiv direct and like five times more effective is maybe a solution for many people living in the in the west with you know obese problems and and heart

36:09problems because vascular problems because of it Etc there's a uh a type of therapy that's becoming really popular here in America called uh cryotherapy uh a lot of athletes use it and I started using it uh a few years ago um a lot of people from Jiu-Jitsu were telling me about this thing you go you stay in this a it's a box it's 250° below zero and you do 3 minutes in it yeah I do it 4 days a week now it's it's amazing it's nice it's amazing I I I get out of there I feel so great and I had my friend Dr Ronda Patrick who's a scientist and she explained all the what what's happening inside of it and then I took her to the is to the the chamber and had her stand in the uh the cryo chamber and she she said it was incredible when she got out of it see she was a a scientist she understands the body very well so she knew that there was it was Raising her levels of

37:00nephrine and her whole body was being stimulated by this reaction to this extreme 250 degree below zero cold yes I did it uh too and uh uh yeah have you done the one where you get inside of it fully or the one that's just from the neck below uh fully and uh and up till the neck a couple of times and uh yeah I could stay quite long ins I bet you could stay in there forever how long could you go in there for I don't know maybe 10 minutes or something and but still feeling okay yeah 3 minutes is I do three minutes and 30 seconds and I do it more than anybody in the whole place I can't believe you could do 10 minutes yeah you know it's a thing with with nature just keep going and keep going and then you just push your boundaries yeah that that's it but it is not necessary to uh reestablish the right natural connection between your brain and your endocrine systems and IM immune systems just a

37:59little bit of cold is enough to trigger the vascular system the right way enabling it uh to work better with your nervous system and then the breathing and focus your mind like the mind was able without moving to produce 300% more metabolic activity in the cell that is mind the the mind is so much able to do so much more and this is the quinis this is the essence of what I come to tell you we got to change our belief we got to change the way we think it's like a paradigm shift and why because we have proven with thousands and thousands of results Beyond speculation that we are able if we use our mind once again not in dependency for doctors and this and that and that that no you you are able to repair yourself whenever you feel uh not healthy or depressed or uh uh uh with a loss of energy you know uh strength happiness and health then you should go in and breathe better they

39:17will reestablish the connection uh uh with the endocrine systems immune systems and the brain together and then repair whatever is uh producing an obstacle for you to function in the world maybe you are able to function in the world but you don't feel good yeah you don't feel uh happy and you don't feel strong so tell say if a person had a cold a slight cold what would you recommend they do I would say um uh breathing once breathing your your me breathing fully as hard and deep as you can and then just exhale a little bit and then breathe in as far as your lung to stretch then how many like like 20 times then take him in and then go to the place to the spot where you feel the cold is happening could be in the throat could be here could be you know somewhere in the this part so go in your mind to that spot you know what happens when I'm in the I for an hour for example most of

40:21the times I begin to feel it the cold at the part of the kidney which is mostly on the on the surface and the cold gets there the ice then I ain't got no there is no way I'm able to move because it's like 6 700 kilos of eyes around me um and I'm not able even to breathe very much because it's pressurizing what I learned is to think it away within a minute within a minute I make the difference from the brain to the kidneys and change the temperature like 10° is is a measurable thing you've changed a measurable 10 degrees uh Dr Ken KLA who uh did experiments with me I did records here in New York in the uh Florida I don't know a couple of places and while I was in the show for example reges and Cali show you know the guys right and uh uh uh and he saw my core temperature was dropping was dropped to um 32 uh degrees Celsius Celsius I don't know but it's far lower very

41:41low people are not normally not able to raise the temperatures anymore they just go into you know sub unconsciousness and coma and things like that but I Rose the temperature back and they said now he never had seen a person uh do that because physiologically stated as in the science books it's not possible and I say you know so much more is possible than not only you know connecting with your core temperature but also with the endocrine systems no when you say you were raising your temperature where what was the environment that you were raising your temperature in where you were in the water while this was happening yes uh in the tank the tank in the tank freezing cold you raised your temperature from there yes that's amazing no what we are able to do that's amazing that's amazing life is amazing life pretty amazing living is a wonder and we have to re-experience that and

42:42that's the Paradigm Shift we are able to learn to control it needs some steady attention like a baby needs attention to grow up we need to pay attention to ourselves again trust ourselves again believe believe leaving is neurotransmitters in the right way and when it connects with the body again and we got the techniques and it does been shown with thousands of results that we are able to control the endocrine systems or better set our mood becoming happy yes or no serotonin melatonin deml treine and all the other uh hormones we are able to tap into that system we have shown that another one the the strength which is adrenaline epinephrine norrine noradrenaline and cortisol and all that we have shown more than somebody lying in bed than somebody going into a bunker JY that's strength and then health health is the immune systems learning to tap into the immune systems and like

43:48cryotherapy as you were talking mentioning it goes on up till the bone marrow and that activates these uh uh blood markers over there and people with arthritis then are able to move a barrier again after a a a session like that but we with these breathing techniques we get into the bone marrow as well and there we have the te- cells the te- cells and B cells and they are a part of the specific immune system and a specific immune system normally only begins to work after weeks H and then the body knows what kind of molecules it needs to produce to kill the cell the Intruder cell and uh it gets on the membrane or the the skin of the cell and it kills it instead of inflamma the all the body it goes very specifically but it takes two weeks we do it in one quarter of an hour with this breathing and only with this breathing you are able to control the pH level and the pH level right as we are

45:01mammals if you look in nature you see all these mammals if you take blood from them they all have the right pH degree very alkaline and but uh only because we wear clothes and we live in a comfort zone H we do not stimulate thus oxygen doesn't get as deep as it could you we you have shown this 2 and a half minutes without air in the lungs that means the capacity to store up oxygen is far bigger than you normally use that's still pretty minor though right like what you you held your breath for seven minutes is that what you did yes and under the eyes and but that once again that's that that what what did you do you have been fighting people I I never could win of because I was not trained to do that you have trained to do that I trained to do this that that that's the range of possibilities but it's very unimportant we don't need to know Heroes we you need

46:06to become healthy strong and happy does it matter whether you breathe in through your nose or in through your mouth because there a a big thing in yoga and they teach you that and a lot of other in in Jiu-Jitsu they try to teach you to breathe in through your nose I I wrote books on the subject before now I say doesn't matter what kind of hole you use just get it in that's it yeah you know these girls and these women ask just tell them that so make a joke but the serious thing is we got it scientifically endorsed no speculation just do it just it is easy accessible very effective cuz the idea is when you breathe in through your mouth it induces Panic breathing that's what they say in in Jiu-Jitsu that just to keep yourself calm you're supposed to you breathe in through your nose and out through your mouth in through your nose and out through your mouth and in yoga

47:01they try to teach you to do the entire class through your nose yeah yeah you don't think it matters yeah no it doesn't matter R and uh I'm G to tell them that tomorrow yeah just do it uh in this technique which has been shown the as the first group in the world to be able to tap into the autonomic nervous system related to the immune system and endocrine system it shows the depth and and this depth normally is a result maybe of yogis who are really going into samaris and daranas and and into the Kundalini up to the sahasa and all that the the the kumaka yogis and I know all this all the terminology I've been doing Sanskrit and Hindi and uh before but uh I I I thought to be far too complicated they they you know they made it into a myth we westerners we have no time we want to understand things the way we are uh living and uh I thought to simplify it and uh science uh backed it

48:15up now when you're talking about your breathing you were saying that when you were young that you when you discovered this type of breathing that you could see lights yes you know that is that's one of the four components of Kundalini Yoga chakas yeah that they they experience this intense State due to their specific type of I don't I haven't practiced it this this this is the nervous system I could make you do this in 15 minutes and what do you but what is that is it just your body's production of Psych nervous system nervous system the nervous system is about electrical potentials so it's just firing that's it and you are just manipulating the nervous system pressurizing it and then electricity comes out uh bigger so what you were saying before about someone who has a cold so you would tell them to utilize your breathing method and concentrate on the area in which they're

49:08sick like if they have a lung infection concentrate on clearing the lungs any infection any disease any anything they got we have the ability to connect with our body you just have to absolutely believe it and you have to absolutely be focused on it if you if you want your phone then if I want my phone then I need to grab this one not not this one not this one and not that I have to be busy with what what I'm doing for real to grab the actual phone you I got to go to the place where something is happening mhm so if there is a disturbance you go to the disturb until you release it you got to learn to connect once again that's the chains of the belief the the change of the belief is not nothing more than the the mind which is nourish transmitters electrical potentials and use it once again instead of being alienated because of comfort Behavior you learn to use these neural

50:09microbiological patterns again which are which are existent but they are un down exercised unexercised and that's why we we don't trust them because they are not so strong learn that these are very capable of you making connection with the endocrine systems immune systems far deeper thus being able to control happiness health and strength and we are going to prove this more and more because I'm uh dealing with the universities and I want to I want cold measurements figures statistics no speculation well that's what separates you from a lot of people who have made these crazy claims you you've actually done physical Feats that show extraordinary abilities what what you did in Mount Everest no one's ever done before and I've never even heard of any attempting to do something like that you ran a marathon half marathon in Finland did you run it Barefoot yes above I mean you were you were how

51:13cold was it out it was likeus 30 outside yeah yeah yeah reach about those temp you were shirtless right yeah yeah just shorts short shorts Barefoot you run a half mile atus 30 so that's what that 13 miles mil 13 miles Jesus fu yeah what's something what's something man that's undeniable that's undeniable so when when people is that why you started doing these things so that people would pay attention to what you're doing because when when you hear someone's doing that when you hear someone's climbing Mount Everest in their shorts you go what okay what is he doing how's he doing that and then you find out that you're incredibly healthy and you're vibrant and you're doing all these things and you're you're allowing yourself to be tested you're showing this ability to regulate your immune system this is all incredibly exciting stuff and then the scientists come in

52:02because then they're like okay what is going on here and we have to change our beliefs about what is possible with the human mind exactly and be very clear about it no speculation it all began with uh you know well when I felt so powerless with my wife then those days I loved her to death but not in that way of course I work now with the four children I have with her I had with her I still have with her and um I began to I only could find rest and peace within the depth of my own being emotionally you know you cannot see it but is there and uh for that I went into nature I began to climb without gear and go into the ice more and this made me silent within that was my curing it calmed your all the horrible stress and depression emotion is stress and uh later on I began to understand about it but then it it caught the attention of the the news and then they began to ask but are

53:12you able to do this then too and are you able to do I I told him oh yeah I can do that I can swim under the ice like distances oh yeah I can climb a mountain bear food in the snow yeah I can hang by one finger in the air yeah I can run a marathon shieldless beyond the polar Circle midwinter I can do all this and then signs came in they it came into the you know newspapers and internet and all that and they to how is this possible were they were they did they not believe you at first yeah of course that if somebody it tells in the books in the University books now which uh have been dedicating one chapter about the Iceman which is the study which we did there you see the whole story that where professors normally they say yeah this is not possible in the in the books is stated it is not possible to do half marathon Barefoot or climbing Mount Everest that way because of the

54:19physiology of ours and and the hardships outside it's not possible but this guy is doing it so how so began to raise questions and then they invited me to uh be tested and they were skeptical of course they were absolutely skeptical and only want clinical proof of what I was doing uh which surpassed the physiological laws stated in the in the books if were I was able to produce that in laboratory settings and then they had a you know something to start off with to do which could be a a a possible method or abilities U uh evidencebased helping people who are sick and now we are going to do more clinical studies showing sick people to be able to cure a lot faster or not to uh having uh to make use of um as much medicine as they do now because yeah I'm I'm not anti pharmaceutics or anything like because I'm not into politics but I'm in you know I want people to know there is so

55:36much more within every person here in the world which will enable you to tackle a disease unhappiness and having no energy or strength and uh we are able to do that and that's love I want to bring back love in the world constituted by happiness strength and health it's just fascinating that it take you you're such an outlier that it took one person to come up with this method and one person to challenge these ideas that the body can't do this and now they have to reconsider this 7 billion people on the planet we've been around for who knows how long we thousands of years of written history and then they had these laws that they believe that the body was capable of doing and not capable of doing this is this is where it ends that your body can't do this body can't do that and you came along one guy whm Hoff you come along and you change everything that's amazing that's that's truly truly

56:37amazing it's amazing you know it's a I was never out there to to to change the world but because of you know things happened in my life I triggered I was triggered in the depth of my body and even in the emotional part as I explained before for because of my wife and all that and now I'm very very certain I got a mission I it was born in 2007 in the Feinstein Institute manh hasard New York when Dr ke Kevin Cara uh uh uh gave me the results of blood results after an experiment in the Feinstein Institute which is a biochemicals Institute and he told me if you are able to reproduce these results and pass it on to a group of person say in two weeks then that would mean huge consequences for human mankind then I the the missionary was born my mission was born and since then I want to get into it and Beyond speculation prove it by evidence and it is belief emotion and believe are very close

57:51together we lost the emotion we lost the feeling the the the sensitivity and we lost the belief within ourselves and we got to go back to the belief belief is able to tackle science belief is to able to tackle any problem in the uh in life by every person and uh belief is chemistry and we have to go back to that chemistry and we are showing this in by scientific uh evidence and results well I think what you're doing is so important and it's so important to to human beings because we were existing we we were operating under a false assumption and this false assumption had made it into textbooks and if a guy like you comes along and shows a method for changing changing your physiology and if you could teach that to Children early on you would change their operating Paradigm you would change the way their mind views the world you would change you would change them why we here at Joe

58:51Joe Rogan already thank you here handshake Shir now I understand can hang by one finger what what is that feeling like man when you're hanging a mile in the air by one finger what is that feeling like it felt great you know all the all the things I do I never know it before I'm doing it you know what it's going to feel like yeah yeah what's going to feel did you practice hanging from your finger before you oh yeah yeah but then at home yeah if you fall when you yeah you just fall 30 cm like you know but uh over there it's a different thing but you know you learn to surpass your fears and you learn to calculate with your body as a part of the calculation what was the scariest one of these stunts that you tried to attempt scariest what about the one most exciting most most of the fear because fear is just you know advising signal within um which was the one maybe

59:57swimming under the ice so I lost track listen to this story this is nice uh I had no goggles on but when I do Dove like one meter thick ice so the the ice is 3 feet thick for people don't know what a meter is you're diving into the water and where is this in uh Finland Finland the water a po polar Circle insanely cold water it's it's like uh needles but I stained I did not even feel the needles because that that's one thing and then I did my breathing really good this was the day before I was going to do attempting to do a world record so I had a general repetition and there was nobody only one diver somewhere but he was not in the water and uh to me I I I didn't want to just try and train half the distance or no if I have to do it tomorrow I'm going to do all the distance now but nobody took real attention and nobody was so serious they only thought

61:08we are the safety around the real record with the television and this and that and all that so I began to do this breathing which you just did and then at a certain point I was so lightheaded and this and that but then in the water in the cold and you become fully charged with oxygen so much that your pH levels go really up and there you feel lost first you need to go under the ice and then you begin to swim Stroke by stroke every stroke is something more than a yard how far you going under the ice uh I the length at that uh in that Ro it was about 60 yards so 60 yards holding your breath under the ice but in like 40 hours later I could not see anything anymore because my the retina froze your retina froze yes retina froze and I missed the hole at the 60 yard and I I was counting subconsciously I I I had it all figured out so much Strokes that means I then

62:28I'll arrive at the at the other hole how far in did you go blind like uh uh like 70 75 yards it's when I I need to go back you only think that very instinctively at that moment there is no space for thinking and now when you say you went blind how much could you see very little very blur a blur blur yes so I went on swimming and trying to find a way to the hole but I never found it and I had actually in the distance I made the biggest distance ever that I could never reproduce this but doesn't matter the thing is I lost a fear of death right over there it's like every animal in the world dies you know at in peace uh when they die not of an accident or this or that um because their blood is alkaline pH level uh is really up and the body is able to retreat in the nervous system then go into the central nervous system and then the tunnel of the light and

63:41that that that's it uh you go to sleep and I had the same sensation my pH levels were so Rosen before I went in that there there was never a a the lack of oxygen or the lack of oxygen was there but it was never disturbing with the withdrawal there was no Panic of the energy it was absolutely no Panic actually I felt little bit good you know like like a rush like going to sleep wow so you thought some close to death yes so somebody grabbed you and said like two times I experienced this I lost my fear of death and that's a personal story I wouldn't try it under in uh you know beneath the water these breathing exercises you have to learn first to recondition your body to its natural state and then you get a different connection you are more able and become more conscious of your abilities so someone grabbed you and brought you to the hole yes to the 50 m hole back and

64:46so you had turned around and went backwards trying to find out where the hole was yes yes like so there was more than one hole hole was here hole was there I went that way so one was set up in I tried there and then they brought me back here okay so I did more than double the distance so for people listening you you missed it by going to the right and then you went to the left you couldn't find it so there was a 50 m hole and then when was the second hole 70 M no no no it just 1 15 M hole 1 1550 M hole that's it there was just one hole okay so you just just totally missed it and so then they brought you back to the hole Yeah so you did accomplish what you set out to but you did it with while being blind yeah yeah yeah I'm still BL double the distance did it mess with your vision at all permanently no no no no no so when you got out of the water how long was it before you could see

65:37again um almost directly really almost directly yeah the blur de a little that's began to f as oxygen comes back you almost directly was restored again one of the things that I found fascinating about the the cryotank is that your eyeballs don't get cold I'm why do everything gets cold but my eyes don't get cold I I found that fascinating when I'm outside and I'm freezing cold too it's never the eyeball itself and I don't know if it's there's a lack of nerve endings or I don't know what it is we are not built to swim under eyes but we are built to be able to walk like ints outside for hours and days and maintain Vision because that's Survival right but you can also get snow blind right like outside yes with the white yeah the white somehow another the reflection off the white yeah that's the different story yes yeah with the white like on Mount Everest on these mountains

66:43actually we are not built to uh get up there either I found out but uh it's a amazing you did it and you did it in shorts yes and uh did that piss off the other people that are trying to climb Everest did that piss off the other people that are trying to climb Everest cuz they're us tank and I don't think it is a challenge to do with in clothes yeah anything it's no challenge you are not in contact with the natural environment at that moment but well how come so many people die if it's not a challenge it seems like it's a big challenge are they just not prepared properly yeah yeah yeah there's a lack of oxygen over there uhhuh and if you use all the time oxygen at a certain point you don't use oxygen and you get in a storm or a blast or the wide out things yeah you then you're just lost yeah simply lost up there it's a different loss now listen I am going for

67:46the fourth time now climbing kilano in in in in January coming and the and I teach people to do it in a record time without mountaineering experience and even having you know diseases like Roma or asthma or chronic diseases things like that in four months four days actually one day in one month I trained them and then they have to do homework say exercising at home and believing just just be in it and no no ego we go I always tell and then in four months the oldest participant without mountaineering experience is 76 years old and we are going to do it in a record time that's learning how to use if you know how to use the Adaptive power of ours and you uh endorse it with the right breathing and belief the belief was the neurotransmitters who are influencing on Cell level the breathing brings about the right pH level and then uh and then the Adaptive force is able

69:01to adapt to enter into the body because the chemistry is right now when you say the right pH levels is this something that's been measured like the difference in the pH levels of your body from this yes we just completed new studies and it showed uh that all the people who are doing this H they had a a pH level average of 7.8 and uh then went down to uh the normal uh real natural standard which is 7.3 7.4 uh but most of us we have lower and more acidic St uh States levels of uh pH uh decrease and we did a researched on pain now if you get a if you are able to control to 7.6 pH level you are able to control the pain signal it falls apart trimerization Tri you got it's the three components and if you bring up the pH level controlled to 7.6 it falls apart you don't feel the pain anymore and we lost the ability to suppress or control the pain now with this breathing

70:20influencing on the pH level consciously you're able to learn to control the pain we just finished the studies and 100% score once again wow now this Mount kilman jaro thing is this the first time you've ever led a group of people say a third time already would you like anything else to drink you're coffee yeah more anything oh yeah yeah beer yeah okay let's get get a few beers yeah oh boy here we go yeah sure man so this Mount Kil and jaro thing you you're going to take these people now do you have any concern taking a 76y old person now any understanding of their physical condition do you going to give them a thorough examination or have someone do that or what do you how are you going to approach that you know after 30 years or 35 years almost five 40 years already uh of you know experience of exposing the body the physiology to extremes I know and I can feel if I'm fit or somebody is

71:21able or fit to do H being part of a calculation in the extreme I learned to climb without gear on rocks that means you read The Rock first and then you are part of the calculation and and uh Sam Adams there yeah get some of those too hey have a nice day man yeah have a hinin that's from your people right no that's not that's German right is it Boston Boston oh is that a Boston yesterday it was in Boston Boston is say Chicago on the other one yeah oh oh oh so it's hinin but hinin what is that is that from Germany it's not from is it from your people yeah your people yeah yeah well your people have uh accomplished some incredible things Holland is the birthplace well not the birthplace but one of the greatest kickboxing nations in the world yeah yeah I'm training aliser over I want to talk about that so what are you doing for Alistar the same I did with you and

72:23I get into you yeah you know if you're if you're doing cheers yeah cheers man so um so with aliser how did Alistair found out about find out about you and what how' this get started alist is absolutely not stupid he's a very he's a controlling and intelligent person yeah he's a very smart guy calculating what he is doing and he's trying to get always the best out of it so he came to me uh because of people saying hey this guy is scientifically endorsed he got some methods about breathing and focus and it's all been measured so he asked me uh uh to come by and he came by um this is in Holland in Holland in Amsterdam where did this beer come from Cheers Cheers um and we just had we had a talk and uh the man is so in control of his body uh he can he can read my mind when he's talking with me if I'm being right because he can feel what happens with his logic and his uh body so uh he

73:44thought it to be right and okay and then he is he's listening he's a pupil he's very humble he's a nice guy that's all and uh he is learning listening uh respecting okay and then he took it up I I told them what to do I told them you have to regain the connection with the hormonal uh system you know when you fight you try everything and your hormonal system gets out of balance sort of is possible from stress yeah from stress yeah and those people live in the extremes so your hormonal system gets out of control and uh uh we bring it back first and you know uh you know what you want you want to win but moreover you want to have control within you want to feel that you are able to steer and direct your body and in the train you want to get better but if you frustrate yourself then it's because of hormonal disbalance and you are training training training but it doesn't get through and

74:58what we do is just taking away the blockages and the balance the the the disbalance thus you got an open way because you want to win you want to increase you want to become better and you know your feeling and then take up with cold water I told him and easy does it you know you begin with cold showers that's all and now he's taking cold bath you know ice bath uh every day and uh two weeks later he told me uh he is improving so much that you regained the connection with his uh deeper physiological systems the endocrine and the and the IM immune system as well but he is healthy already but endoc greine systems that's important for him because you know it's pure adrenaline what happens when when you do a match but you're living toward it I learned how to deal with the mind I explained about the mind as well and now two weeks later I got a phone uh he told

76:04me uh uh I'm going to win uh why because I feel I have taking I'm in charge with my own body and I'm not talking you know big alist over him is his person I don't know the way he is now but I'm going to meet him say next week and do a last training directing simply Awakening his ability like everybody H the ability to connect with the deeper physiological uh systems within our body enabling us to do about anything because this adaptive power is really so far out well for Fighters that could be a huge Advantage because one of the big things that happens to them during hard training is their endocrine system starts to break down their testosterone levels are very very low during training camps because they're often times overtraining meaning their body can't recover and they're training so hard their body doesn't have enough time to recover do you think that

77:06you can stimulate the production of testosterone in people's bodies oh yes you know think logically testosterone is about Pro creation and all that you know and a defense of your territory it's a natural thing but if you keep on training training training training then the body shuts down because there is no need to defend you are looking for some imaginary opponent right that's what the nature of this endocrine system is telling you so you have to learn to uh control this primitive reactive part of ours It's A Primitive brain the brain stem and learn to bring it under your dominion and and as we are uh if you take on too much adrenaline then it becomes acidic and you mess up the the the endocrine systems very logic now we have shown that without Forest we are able to produce more adrenaline than somebody in a in a going into a Bunga jump you know very fearful and how do

78:19you do that like you were you were saying that earlier like if someone's lying on their back what did you do the breathing method exactly but do you have them visualize something terrifying or no once again if I if I want my beer I'm not grabbing this telephone right know neither this one now this my be you know and just be busy with what you what you are aiming at okay that's it mhm and visualization comes from itself you know mhm you see a mountain and you feel I want to climb this then you it'll be there every time you are there and tuning the body toward the the eventual performance and this is the way it is done inside and sometimes you can you know uh visualize first and then but I say like Breathing by the nose by this this oh it doesn't matter what kind of hole you use just make it happen but what how do you stimulate adrenaline though like if you have someone lie on

79:25their back like if you have me lie on my back and I'm starting to do your breathing exercises got you you know what we do okay they saw it in the University uh they saw they got they they got these devices to measure the saturation of oxygen in the blood and normally at sea level like here it's like 100% but this is only the measurement device they created it and it goes from 100% to 30% 30% everybody is dead something like that at 40 50 normally they people die so they have these measurements they they measured us no the guys I trained and they they saw uh not only 100% but probably 150% but the measurement uh device is wrong it's just uh based on what we think that our body is capable of I put this aside we do this breathing exercise then you see directly on the monitors what happens if you um are without air in the lungs staying without air in the lungs like you did two and a half

80:46minutes what happens everybody after one and a half minute got to this 100% on the device on the monitor probably 150 but it was only visually shown and and visible after 1 and a half minute that the 100% was reach then went into 90 80 70 60 50 40 30 measurement device shuts down bang we go even lower and then the body the Primitive brain the brain stem The Reptilian Brain who only reacts on cold like reptilian cold warm deprivation of air things like that you know very primitive we got a the brain stem of ours works like that it reacts so at that moment it doesn't think there is no oxygen no it just reacts there because there is no oxygen inside the body but because the pH levels we went have been risen nothing is happening to the body but we the the Primitive brain is reacting the the the brain stem and it gets into this survival mode and so much that adrenaline W is

82:15over there so it's just about holding the breath for long periods of time while you raise simple how simple is it and that causes a well that makes sense and and and that and in that way without any damage in the brain or or nothing like that it also begins to if you do it on a regular basis it begins to uh reestablish neural patterns between the neocortex the the surface of the brain our thinking and the Primitive brain that makes sense because when you had me hold my breath and I only did it for 2 minutes but I was starting to panic I was start like I my body was going what are you doing dude what are you doing come on breathe my body was telling me come on breathe breathe Hey Joe Rogan is a call myself a all the time me too that's my secret My secret is I'm not a fan of me life is a My secret is I'm not very impressed by me yeah yeah yeah me too me

83:14too now this um Mount killan jaro thing um I want to get back to that because that to me what's dangerous about that is not you cuz I think that you have a very deep understanding of who you are and what you're capable of and obviously you've done amazing things but these other people how how do you know them do you know how how well do you know these F feel them yeah how how well do you know them and how feel you love that knowing is feeling is understanding right and we have the ability like living in a you know with a pack of wolves no we are mammals too in a pack of people M we are able to exist in nature and as I know the challenges in nature and how to counteract with the in interaction with the nature I know how to lead people through uh uh uh extreme in extreme conditions and I already did it twice first with 26 people the oldest one was 65 people without mountaineering

84:15experience and with four bypasses coronary bypasses 65 years old and coronary U uh uh bypasses oh and a a guy with cancer two people with disease of Crone one with Roma arthritis what what is Roma Aroma Roma arthritis arthritis arthritis yeah arthritis arthrosis you have all kinds and uh autoimmune diseases right and we had a lot of them Ms multiple sclerosis really for example yes have you you've been able to help those people improve their conditions not only that 26 people and we told them at in the Press we are going to climb the kilan jaro in three days in shorts and everybody saying but in this condition without mountaineering experience people are going to die the physiology states that this is not possible many many many many uh arguments and then we didn't do it in three days we did it in two days oh my God and they changed these guys they have a lot more control within their

85:23lives and and they know from within then last year or this year January we did it once again over and we did it we took 16 hours off from the two days from the 46 hours went to 31 uh 48 hours to 31 hours and this time the oldest man is 76 I can feel it if one is able to do it it's him uh and then I have still to see about the youngsters because their mind is yet not so in connection with the body that's interesting that you say that because ultramarathons um are typically run by older people it's one of the more interesting aspects of that endurance sport is brain Body Connection they they're also tougher yes and you know like the Bushman mhm they hunt a Kudo mhm like for two days and the kudu is and they just yeah persistence training yeah that's us we do conscious breathing and this conscious breathing is a neurop pattern between the body and and mind

86:36and the animal hasn't got it well the animal is also not physiologically capable running long distances like a person is they they they tire out they're they're built for Sprints and that's what they do they just wear them out they persistence hunt they chase him down and they wear them out but often times they're too exhausted at the end of it to even enjoy it yes yes but okay but it shows once again the mind that the mind and the breathing because the breathing when people get a headache which is the first sign of acclimatization problems a high altitude disease and AMS acute Mountain sickness is what it is then I just make them breathe and bring more oxygen to the brain so if you're if you're climbing up you're you're not using any of those oxygen tanks and a lot of those people use nothing now when you hear about people dying up there do you think that

87:28you could have helped those people if you taught them techniques oh yes yes yes oh absolutely I saw all the you know 26 people ranging from 22 to 65 with coronary problems with all these diseases and still able to do it within two days in shorts that it means they're all in shorts they're all in shorts 76 year old guys in shorts yes yes and women yeah not not only in shorts yeah but happens you know and it's possible people transform people get back to their natural ability that's it wow that's um that's a big responsibility to take a group of people like that and to to be you you understand that it is a big responsibility but I'm so sure because I trust nature mhm so I just respond to what I feel natural with these people but what if you get somebody with you that's a legitimate like what if someone signs up for it and they just they just fold Under Pressure there are

88:32people like that that do that yeah I know I know what you mean I say ego no ego weego right like before right and this is that and I got a very good sense of controlling and detecting if somebody is hiding something because if you hide something and you have an attitude on the mountain the mountain is much stronger than you that he's going to break you and you think that would be part that would be a big issue the attitude of the person yes yes it will horrify the the person's situation and then it's not you know he will he will block us of going up and get a rhythm out is just a problem but he won't be he or she won't be able to get up on the mountain anymore and you're saying n attitude meaning like a negative attitude or an attitude of ego like the ego protecting you from giving in and and and and realizing your true potential right you have to learn to let

89:35go like in the cold as well you have to learn to let go then things can happen in the body naturally and then you are able to manipulate and they can absorb your mindset as well they can absorb your example and that's one of the things like I can tell just talking to you and being around you that you you have this this very powerful belief in what you're saying and what you're doing and when people around you and they telling me that huh he's a good man we love life well you know what I'm saying I love you too people absorb that when when people around someone like you that has this legitimate powerful belief in what you're saying and and what you've proven to be true then other people absorb that and it's one it's a that if someone has an attitude meaning a negative attitude they have too much ego they're they're going to say well who the this guy well why does he

90:31think he knows this well you know you know you know what I've done let me tell you what I've done you know that type of person is going to fall apart right oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yes the heart nature is my teacher and he is merciless but righteous yeah merciless but righteous is true you know what is possible because you have achieved it and they know that you know this truly you know there are there are people you know uh uh in tawo the the teacher is uh called sabom Nim you know like Sensei and karate sabom Nim is the the Korean version of it and what that means a literal translation is one who leads by example so but you leading by this example you you you doing this and showing these people that this is all possible yes they absorb that when you that's one of the reasons why it's so important to be around POS motiv motivated people yeah yeah you when

91:29you're around them you take that in you take that in and when you're around people who are troubled and are falling apart and failing at everything you take that in too and it's bad for you you know and you could you could be around people that are always in trouble and your life will be affected by their negativity yes so when you take these people with you you are raising them up with your own mind with your own your own belief in what you have done and what they can do you make them better yes sir it is that way and we should heal each other again yeah and we can we can if everybody does their own part yes if everybody gets in that water yeah don't be scared get in that water yeah do you think that the cold water is maybe even better than like a cryo chamber because it's it's so hard to breathe in cold water you know when I was hosting uh Fear Factor one of the

92:22hardest things that we had people do was cold water stunts because uh you're if you're especially if you're not used to it one of I mean I I've jumped in cold water before one of the craziest feelings is you can't breathe like when you get in the water your body goes it's like this weird thing where your body you can't even if your head is above water you can't like if I get in a pool okay like a normal pool like a swimming pool um and it's nice I can breathe I breathe just like I can right now but if you get in cold water even if you're up to the same level your head is above water you can't breathe it constricts your body's ability to take in oxygen like do you think then in that sense that maybe there's more benefit even to getting in a tub of ice and water than there is in one of those cryo Chambers I think so yes yeah you see you do it longer too right yes you see the

93:21difficulty with the cold water mhm you you see and as you see that that means there it needs a a greater performance and greater control o over the body to do that yeah but then once you do this consciously you get a bigger control over your body and you are able to perform better and it's a a vascular thing I I I can explain but it takes quite some time so maybe it's like the maybe the smart thing to do is to do both things is do like a cry chamber for the phys IAL effects because they say that the cyto keines are released in the body when you get to like 150° below zero like that's like the most benefit where your body produces the most anti-inflammatory reaction you don't get that cold when you get in the ice uh bath with water in the ice it doesn't get to 250 degrees below zero but maybe that's there's more benefit with the mind and with controlling the breathing

94:17in that respect because you have to breathe in deeper longer and you can sit in an ice bath for 20 minutes as opposed to the 3 minutes of the like when I've when I've taken people into the cryo theapy place you know they say I don't think I can do it I'm like well the first time you do it you're only going to do it for 20 for two minutes you count to 60 twice and it's over just go one 2 3 four five 6 you do that you're you're one tenth of the way is there you count to six you're one tenth of the way to to 60 count do it 10 times you get to 60 do it again you're done it's over it's two minutes it's nothing you could hold your breath for two minutes it's not that hard but ice bath is a different story you get in that ice bath you climb into that thing and all half ice half water just can't breathe that's when you really have to yeah so this but you can't for athletes you can't train after

95:10you do the ice bath after you the ice bath your body is so cold that they say you can't work out afterwards but you can work out after you do cryotherapy so maybe like the benefit for athletes is to do a combination of the two things yeah sure sure sure right do when I get uh I get these people going then with a c within a couple of hours you will see that they are able to do so much more H it's Awakening the right pH levels once again controlling it by breathing and focus using focus and then uh having a lot more control over the chemistry and the chemistry is needed controlled when you get the impact of the cold which is a force you need to produce chemically within your own body consciously h a a contra force a a opposing force and we are quite able to do that but you have to know how to do that that's uh and for every individual it's a little bit different

96:10so for tuning like so uh yeah it's a vascular thing you say yeah we are able to go like 20 minutes uh in a in a old ice bath eventually but not in a cry therapeutical uh uh uh chamber and that's because it works different on the body and it works on the marrow it gets deeper inside it's a dry it's dry and you know water gets 25 times faster into the body it's a different force and I I recommend myself I don't know exactly but I would recommend the ice bath beyond uh cryotherapy uh uh and cryotherapy is you know very artificial you you need a tank you need this and people are not able to get into it and but when you get the means hey cryotherapy is okay I always said the cold is okay but there needs to be so much more research yeah yeah yeah you're sure yeah there needs to be more research so much more research and once again I want to be Beyond speculation

97:27but we are able and that's my belief like 25 years ago I told everybody H the autonomic nervous system in relationship to the immune system can be influence far deeper and they mocked me then and now it's signs and they changed the books and now I tell everybody listen up health strength happiness is ours that's our Natural State and whatever we use therein cold or heat or stress or this or that which is an impact on the body we are able to withstand it or able to control it as we are able to control the system which is our producing happiness strength and health well your story one of the most amazing aspects of it is your story is a story of persistence and and belief because you've been doing this for a long time but it's it's not until recently that you've sort of broken through to the mainstream I think Vice had a lot to do with that that Vice uh

98:32piece was so powerful thanks vice vice Shane Smith my man yeah right on when you um when you you watch that peace it's undeniable because you're seeing you do these things and you're you're you're watching your enthusiasm and your belief you're taking these other people those reporters that were with you through this uh these experiments and these these techniques it it's got to feel good for you to finally be able to get this word out and to to realize that the light is at the end of the tunnel and that you've you've sort of reached this place where your your ideas have gone viral yes recognition do you know who Kelly Star is he's a famous strength and conditioning Coach and he's author of the Supple Leopard becoming the Supple Leopard is a very very respected strength and conditioning coach when he found out that I was going to have I didn't even talk to him but he found out

99:22through the grap Vine that you going to be on my podcast and he sent me a text message and I'll paraphrase it but he said that what your work is some of the most important work that's being done today in the world of understanding the human body that's what he was saying he was saying that you what you're doing right now for for athletes and for people that want to understand how their body works is some of the most important that's that's being happening right now and that for for self-empowerment for for this that's got to feel good for you does it I mean what does it feel like to you to to realize that from the time you're having this calling to jump into cold water to getting this understanding of what that really means to this breathing method you're developing and then having this scientific proof like this this this justifica this this elaborate

100:09testing that was done on you that shows that your your method has been it's been proven it's effective it's real it's it's written down yes undeniable emotionally you know how how deep can you go if you lose your wife Etc but uh it it has been healed it's one of my songs too and I think now I've scientifically proven it recognition has come the moery has stopped respect is regained reestablished and that's good but there is still so much work to do because the love and the care for the planet for the children for all the living beings still is not established we got to change the mind and we got to go on now I don't want anybody to suffer anymore from not being happy or not having strength or not being healthy and uh and bring back the harmony until that we need to go on but I'm I'm really thankful for people like yourself and uh uh this person Kelly yeah Kelly thank

101:22you very much for for uh endorsing this we are going on and uh Harvard is coming in and uh which is one of the best universities of the world and we will undeniably prove that we are able to become strong healthy and happy everybody and what is star what does Harvard want to do what are there I don't know yet but you know the same person you were talking about Rhonda M Rhonda who's a r Patrick exactly Ronda Patrick she was with me two weeks ago or one and a half week in Amsterdam or in in the Netherlands my place we had a great great discussion later she looked it up and compared blood results with the the threat number one in America which is uh arteriosclerosis it's the heart disease anything what what goes with the arteries and the veins and all that and that our uh alkalosis uh within our within this technique is is capable of influencing in the arterial sclerosis not little bit big

102:33time it's chemistry so we got it not only for the the Public Enemy Number One killing so many people in US H it's all over the Western World we got it also for depression and we got it all so for any actually any disease we got to bring back the belief that we are beings who naturally should be happy strong and healthy and as long as there are systems or this or complications and nobody knows anymore how to be happy and without war and without tensions and too much grieving and too much greed and all that then then we got work to do because the the new world is a world of Harmony and we are working on this and we do this together I I love that the fact that you believe that and I think that it is possible and I I I really do I mean I've been called cheers my brother cheers I think uh we we live in a unique time because we can share information now in a in a way that was never

103:35possible just a decade ago and like something like this a podcast it's free and it goes out instantly and then the world gets it this information gets shared and transferred and everybody gets a hold of it and then it reshapes the way people think and the millions of people that will listen to this it will absolutely affect their lives and how many of them will act on it you know it's up to them but it but it is possible and and it will become viral because of that you know your your ideas are becoming viral yes and it's a non-dogmatic choice we give the people no religion we give the people results no speculation if you do this then this happens and we want to bring back the natural state which is healthy strong and healthy anybody can do this because it's endorsed with thousands of results and these are the means you are helping to make a paradigm shift possible so it's

104:34great work what you do and the world needs it and somebody needs to do it so we do this together and for that this is good it is very good well the beautiful thing about what I'm it's not really work I'm just having a conversation with a cool guy yeah yeah yeah that's the beautiful thing about this now do you monitor your diet at all do you are you conscious about what kind of foods you eat or do you have a specific diet that you follow they messed up food really good H they synthesized it and they volumized it and they make it really shiny you know if you take a paprika you can always you don't need a mirror right H but the nutrients therein they are changed you know maybe half or less than the half of the nutrients which normally should be in there vegetables you mean yeah more durable yes and and uh and and also with the meat and and all that so my my diet is more uh uh uh uh is more

105:34vegetarian and I eat once a day once a day yeah once a day after six or after after six so you haven't had anything to eat no yeah after 35 years today I had my breakfast but yeah I never have a breakfast but it's because of the jetl it took energy and so what time is it now in Holland in Holland it's like a 9 hours difference 9 hours ahead ahead oh yeah well that's that makes sense it's midnight it takes energy and be but because I have this control over the uh uh the endocrine systems the Melatonin serotonin which is the day and the night uh I didn't suffer any jet lag but still it takes energy you don't suffer jet lag when you fly that that far really no no no that that's a you know hormones you um by doing your breathing method you can sort of mitigate that is that what it is yes sir I have a rule that I follow whenever I go uh anywhere that I might get jet lag it's really far I go

106:39immediately to the gym it's the first thing I do and unless I'm ex your ways to regain a strength con with the body yeah I exert myself in a very very strong way I don't do a light workout I do a ferocious workout when I land and it usually resets me right yeah I understand because if you do a ferocious workout you get into the adrenaline axis of yourself as well well I do a lot of people might think it's silly but I do a lot of things when I work out one of the things that I do is I I work myself into this state where I feel like what I'm doing is I'm fighting for my life I mean it might sound crazy but I I put myself position yeah when I sounds if I lift weight or if I run on a litical machine or one of those things do uh some sort of cardiovascular I do it like I'm fighting for my life and I feel like uh that's that's the way you do get the maximum benefits of it now

107:35listening to you it makes sense why I'm doing this like I just been doing this sort of instinctively because I feel like over the years of exercising that's the way I've gotten the best results and but people they they say what the you doing you're not fighting for your life like I know I'm not but in my mind I am when I do it I'm I'm I'm 100% committed to it because my survival depends on it you're literally fighting for your life when you do extremes like I do and uh and you know it and you are very focused at that moment that that you have to go beyond your conditioning yeah you're not playing you're not pretending and you're under the ice you are fighting for your life and you know a j like something out of your conditioning with if you are conditioned you are not able to uh surpass the effects of uh of a jetl but if you are able to get out of the conditioning go

108:31through it all then you are able to regain contact with the serotonin melatonin balance within the body and uh thus uh yeah overcome uh jet leg there is no jet leg so one meal a day in the evening and what like what's typically a a meal for you oh I like past I'm sorry many people say they they they say it's terrible Etc but uh yeah I like macaroni it's delicious yeah yeah yeah I love I'm Italian I enjoy it it tastes great I love it too I love it so you eat a lot of pasta well that's a lot of carbs you burn off a lot of calories obviously if you're doing all this crazy physical stuff I can eat anything I can eat anything any amount uh but I do it after 6:00 why after 6 when you wake up in the morning is it you're not hungry is decis I I don't want to be stuffed I eat very lightly uh I eat very lightly in the morning um I my first meal is almost always fruit now

109:33that's uh mostly what I eat like if I work out in the morning that's I have like a few pieces of fruit and I don't stuff myself I do it until I feel like I don't need anymore and then I work out sure and then afterwards I have something light like today I had some sushi very light you know not much sounds great and then at dinner I usually eat a lot but I it's not about you you know it's about those people who are getting in so much right it's not a they don't use it in the body anymore it's taking in too many calories yeah and they have no control but it tastes good this is about it see for I think for a lot of people the problem is they they go to a job that they don't really enjoy and they're stuck in traffic and then they get to work and the reward is they'll have a doughnut they'll have some coffee they'll have a bre an EG egg sausage sandwich with you know cheese

110:22and mayonnaise and but it's you're getting Sensations when you're eating that that are pleasurable and that's the reward and it's to take that reward away from them you're you're you're giving them a a few less bright spots and otherwise dull day yeah yeah exactly it's what you call it and that's so the day got to be dull we got to bring back the intensity of The Wonder of the day and that comes with the being consciously connected with the depth of your uh physiological systems it also comes with making good choices as to where what you do for a living and what you how you spend your time oh oh yes we we need to be creative all of us because creation and being creative is the expression of the soul and the Soul needs to breathe like anything you know and uh it needs to expand in Consciousness yeah I've always had a real hard time with the EXP exing

111:22creative people this guy's creative he's creative she's creative because people are all creative everyone's creative it's just a matter of finding what it is that you're creative with some people are creative with uh constructing cars some people creative with clothing oh yeah people are creative like it's a part of being a human being it's not it's saying someone's a creative person is like saying they're a hard rock you know everyone everybody's creative yeah the serenity which goes along when people are creative is it's beautiful it's it's a natural part of being a child every child draws and paints and plays with things and sculpts and makes little things with it's a and it gets beaten out of us it gets beaten out of us in school and beating out of us with jobs and beating out of us with responsibilities and careers Pink Floyd yeah a teacher leave them kids just

112:17another break break in the wall cheers brother yeah my man yeah that's um but that for a lot of people they're like that's great but how do I get out of this and that's unfortunately that's your own path you got to figure that out on your own but if if you can the problem people also people get burdened down with bills and responsibilities and debt credit card first of all they get you with student loan debt I don't know how it is in Holland do you guys have uh public universities yes yes yeah same thing oh man that's a there's a resistance to that in this country and it makes me sick school should be free you know it should be free you're not making any money and we should encourage people to learn as much as possible so that they could contribute more and I don't know how to do it but if I have to pay more taxes Jesus Christ I'll pay more taxes I think we should all be

113:08enthusiastic about people being able to get out of school without being hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt I mean we have a enormous problem in this country we got we don't have the same problem with us we we we get a partial you know you got to redeposit the the the the loan which you build up uh something like that but um um yeah it's smaller it's smaller but it's yet it is not the solution the solution should be that uh that the system is so complicated so uh away from us it should begin to look people should be strong healthy and happy are we able to do that and that's what we do scientifically right now it's a sort of a l show showing it's the science didn't prove it all there is more to prove and the school is not uh uh where we should live for the life is the school and in life we should be happy strong and healthy that's the way we are Natural Built so all the syst

114:31all tied together right yes yes it's it's quite logic very simple very effective very there and uh yeah we just uh keep on making sense to we lost the sense do you think that Society has moved too fast for our bodies and that I mean I think this is all kind of tied together you're talking about depression and you're talking about how our our body is not really designed to deal with the stress that it deals with without any of the physical taxing of the the actual unit of the body itself you know the stress of exercise of exertion of uh you know of dealing with the environment and the cold all these things are sort of there's demands that are on the body and the same could be said about the the the demands of society the demands of our culture the demands of civilization do you think that maybe what's what's happened is that our civilization has gotten too advanced too fast and our

115:31bodies just have not be able to adapt so they're left in this state of confusion and anguish because they're trying to trying to get what they there's reward systems that are deeply ingrained in our DNA and they're not being satisfied yes exactly that's the neural connection between the neocortex and the and the brain stem the itive part the the the you know the human part of the thinking and The Reptilian the the Primitive brain the brain St is is cut off somehow and that's why we don't uh control the stress of just stress which is stress hormone and endocrine system is connected to the brain stem and we lost this and there too much going on and we think the body will follow but it it's not following anymore we have problems and we what we right now do is consciously bring back the neural uh channeling between the neocortex with the brain stem and then I think it it'll

116:36solve it it'll make sense again yeah so exercise breathing diet all and Consciousness mindfulness all these things are connected to live a happy life yes because happiness is about controlling the endocrine systems and they are reciting over there and that needs neural challenging what is the difference between the way you approach a cold environment versus the way you approached what what is the the thing that you did in the desert with no water yeah I did it with a physiologist a doctor who was monitoring me and he saw without me having prior experience in the heat you didn't have any experience in the heat at all no what was what up into the where did you go and what did you do in nam in Namib Desert where's that s Val in the near South Africa uh and uh yeah I went uh down there and uh uh it's very dry desert but maybe the driest desert in the world maybe the second I don't know

117:44enough to have a impact on the physiology and I went up there and I lost five points 2 L of water of Water yeah yeah yeah you know things happening that's jugs yeah that that's a that's quite you ran a marathon is that what it was so was 26 miles in that desert and without drinking no drinking water at all no drinking did you rehydrate beforehand did you like drink a shitload of water before you ran two coffee two two cups of coffee I'm a little bit addicted to coffee I don't know if I'm going to master this yeah doesn't matter taste good um yeah but that's that's all no my mind was already there you know I'm going to do this and whatever uh with no extra water or anything like that and so you brought in physiologists to me to monitor your body while you're doing this yes and then he saw all the range my corol body temperature remained 37 degrees it's like you know the normal

118:53body core temperature but do I lost 5.2 L of water so even in extreme conditions you are able to control the body and while you're running are you actively engaging in these breathing exercises while you're running I always say to the persons who would do endurance you know ra long distance running could be 100 kilm or 100 miles or 500 miles they probably are ER knowing not probably they have to know to breathe more than the normal uh conditioned uh breathing patterns which are shallow because if you're not breathing deep enough you will exhaust the reserves of oxygen in the tissue and then the man with the hammer comes you know you are not you become acidic you are not able to run anymore that's because the depletion of the oxygen in the tissue expression the man with the hammer comes yeah yeah okay okay you're not able to do anything that's a crazy way to look

120:02at it though and then the man with the hammer comes yeah so uh I always say take one principle because we have the ability to store up more oxygen but then you have to go uh past your conditioned breathing pattern which is too shallow and under performance Under Pressure it will just take the oxygen out of your uh tissue and then at a certain point it's depleted and you are not able to run anyy because your pH levels become too low so you are able to influence in that P in in that uh uh while you perform H by thinking you know what thinking does influencing cell level but also breathe more than you feel is needed ah okay so if you're running and you're like instead just go take big deep breaths and just mess with your own body then you're able to get into the tissue and maintain in the in the cell biology oxygen instead of disconnecting and becoming acidic you

121:20oxygen is is inside and gets on and is producing energy it's called aerobic dissimulation it's a process in the cell but we are very able to do that and I do that and I show that people just in a couple of hours how to do it I I stand with people like uh even bare food in the snow in shorts say on day two or three for 1 hour in the horse stands you know the horse stands and then stand for 1 hour in shorts and freezing temperatures barefooted for 1 hour in the snow in horand because they influence coal takes uh oxygen to combust energy combustion and it takes energy and it needs oxygen and um and the horse St is a performance is a pressure so it creates heat it it it creates heat it creates control it it shows that we are able to influence cell biology by bringing consciously more uh uh oxygen inside thus producing more energy so how do you keep people from getting

122:37frostbite cuz I would think that standing in the snow Barefoot could make you get frostbite after an hour they are still not not not suffering from frostbite any anything Frost we begin to sing and we begin to have fun you drinking while this is going on so I had I had these East European and Russian people coming to my place as well and they look really tough and this and that and they have this at attitude I say okay let's do an experiment if if somebody is very tough at see just we take a bottle of vka we put it in front of us we stand outside in the hor stands and bare it and then uh in 1 hour or 1 half hour is also okay we drink all the buttter and still remain and balance and because cold is affected if you get alcohol in the in the blood so you need more oxygen you need more control and we drink the whole bottle of vodka oh you drink Vodka not water vodka oh yeah yeah

123:45yeah vodka I think you said water earlier yeah vodka comes from the word water water is water so it looks like crazy Russians are Fu your water same thing just drink yeah so so they you put a bottle of vodka in front of them they have to drink the whole Bott I say I I do crazy experiments I guess yeah man come on life is crazy you got to do crazy experiments crazy under anybody's definition life is crazy we having fun and but we never did it uh but I think you know if you have a hangover a hangover you know then if you do 20 minutes this breathing then you have no hangover anymore the it works that way you are learning to detox yourself in 20 minutes I have a a guy that I do podcasts with occasionally his name is Dr Carl Hart and he's an addiction specialist and brilliant guy and he explained hangovers to me in a way that I never understood he he's like we have this uh very

124:59confused sense of what addiction is and he said what a hangover is is your body being addicted to alcohol even from one binge session your body creates these mitigating responses to the alcohol and then when the alcohol is no longer present your body has this like horrible headache and what it is is a compensatory response to the alcohol that's what it is amaz adaptive yeah I mean that's what a hang forces yeah so like he redefines the premise of addiction and he he believes that our our ideas of addiction are very self-limiting and yes so so we have very self-limiting ideas of our control over life itself yes and then your breathing method just flushes this this this out of the system yeah yeah yeah in any sense what other athletes have you worked with other than than aler um yeah Olympic uh Sports uh sporters like rowing people people do Judo Judo uh also very aerobic right yeah

126:05yeah and um um yeah cadas uh hockey team I'm going to and when did these people start coming to you yeah well whenever I had the scientifically endorsed results mhm this when people begin to think hey man this is this is real people think when it is scientifically proved then something is real now how do you have the time to engage all these people I mean it seems like you've got a lot of people pulling on your your time now right yeah yeah it it does but once again I got my mission MH my mission is to help as much children in the world as possible we have to bring back care and love and this is my mission and I I'm I believe in what I do so let the science come but the science as a as I see it sometimes is as fast as a slow turle science be very thorough the problem is you legitimate 100% but a lot of people are not I've had a lot of people on this podcast that I thought

127:11were legit and then after talking to them and then after going over their stuff and then after being in contact with people who've criticized their work you realize they're artists they're just really good at being a artist and some of the stuff they say is true itself it is it is and unfortunately those people they themselves as well that's one of the fascinating things about artists is they're their own victim they're the victim of their own work and you know what a guy like you it's frustrating to you because you are legit and you want this message to get out there but that that scientific method is critical because that scientific method is also establishing the the veracity of your work it's establishing that absolutely what you're doing is provable and it's real it's one of the things that makes you so unique is the fact that it's not just you and your method

127:58it's not just anecdotal evidence is the fact that there's a bunch of people out there that have actually tested you that have no vested interest whatsoever in you being accurate in fact would probably like to debunk you just as much as they would like to prove you accurate and they can't and that's that's when things get very very very interesting what's fascinating to me is that you're this one guy you're like an outlier in The Most Extreme sense of the term because There's 7 billion people and this one guy has figured some out what if you weren't around man what if you didn't exist we might never figure this out it might be a hundred years before somebody figured it out you know it makes you wonder like what what people now now now we work together yes I do not only love you I love your work I love your spirit no I love the spirit and that's why I love you you

128:49know for what we do and it needs to be done somebody needs to do it and if we do it together we are stronger well listen I love you too and I love your spirit and I love what you're doing and I will help you in any way I can I will get this word out as much as possible I believe what you're doing man I think what's fascinating is that the parlor tricks as it were or your Feats your amazing uh endurance Feats those that's what's bringing people to you you know that the there that when you see you on Everest in your shorts you know like uh there's this one image of you out in the snow and uh you're bouncing on some ice yeah like look that gets people going what the is this guy doing and then they start researching it then they start realizing like whoa this guy this there's been scientific examinations of his claims and it holds up like here's this this one image of you here oh yeah

129:45yeah it's a great picture man when people see like that they go what the is this crazy guy doing he's got no shorts on he's out in the snow it's freezing cold out and he's having a great time it's it's it's it's very contagious in a lot of ways I have a great time and seems like what's going on here what is in this picture here this is Columbia sportsware this is a commercial oh it's a commercial they did for you yeah yeah that they did it and so uh and that's a that sound M blong and the and uh uh that's in the Alps wow uh yeah more more stuff there that's a crazy picture to see you out there in that frozen tundra yeah in your shorts yeah no shirt on it's all there you know well how about the one when you're up there in the Lotus position yeah that one where that's uh Iceland Iceland Jesus now how do you keep your legs from getting frostbite like what what causes

130:45frostbite and how are you able to stop that from happening that we got an ability to to maintain uh uh above zero within the cell biology and but as we not expose ourselves anymore we get Frost by Etc but if you get into the system and you learn to control right and you get the right pH degrees then uh the frostbite will not come because we got a mechanism to do that uh uh that uh that that uh will bring the cell a temperature just above zero that means in the Farenheit what is it 32 32 if because if it gets below you get rapal cell damage mhm but yeah we are mammals and we are able to do that like dogs and ET well we do we know that people adapt to certain environments you know like they know that Inuits have uh adapted uh a very interesting uh ability with their hands where their hands don't freeze up and get numb whereas a person like me from California if I was in their environment

131:55I would have a real struggle but for them it comes natural and their bodies adapted to this extremely harsh environment it seems like human beings are much more pliable than we give them credit for that's the Adaptive power which we have we and never resort to because we live in a comfort zone uh a kind of behavior and we think we can control nature but as long as we do not control what makes us happy strong and healthy we have no control at all and I want to bring it over there that's interesting so what we've been doing is trying to control nature we've been trying to build houses and heat them up and we've been trying to control the environment instead of control ourselves to adapt to the environment exactly and it's nice to have a nice fireplace and everything uh come accommodated at but sometimes like a dog you need to go out and you know what else too the fireplace

132:58you don't appreciate that fireplace unless you're cold as that's when you really appreciate it it's when you really begin to enjoy yeah like after your eyeballs thaw out like you talking about going blind I bet if you got in front of a fire then oh it would be a glorious fire man you're very silent and Serene at that moment yeah enjoying every bit we need the harsh to appreciate the Mellow you know we we need we need hard things to appreciate soft things we need violence I think sometimes to appreciate peace it's like there's something fascinating about human beings that we we almost are designed to overcome and if we do not overcome we find we find ourselves lost yes and it's all about Consciousness yeah being aware of live itself which is a Wonder so we are going to bring it back first Al and then make understandable that in you know Consciousness and love are the best

133:58things on earth accessible for everybody now are you experiencing over like how what has been the the last like few years like what has it been like where people are Awakening themselves to your accomplishments and your work and your your your belief what what has it been like it seems like is at least me on the outside becoming more and more aware of you it's like I'm getting people tweet at me all the time with your videos and articles about you and all these different people ask me about getting you on it seems like there's an Awakening that's going on how much of a requirement has that been on on your time and and you and what does that feel like to you to to have all these people sort of like overwhelmingly coming after you now yeah I love it I love it but uh and I think this way and being with people like you like Joe Rogan is a entity is not just you it's more it's

134:54the image we got to use and abuse all this for the goal to bring it nonog matically to anybody and uh every person in the world we want to make the world happy we want to make it strong and healthy you know we want to bring consciousness of the wonders of life itself and as long as we as it is not there then these all these people who tweeted you and uh while are helping me now that's where the way I feel it it's it's it's love itself that brings me toward uh uh this yeah this Mission and the destination of it is helping children love and care I thank these people very very much from the heart and we still need to go on so we all need you you you keep bringing up children that's that's a primary focus is that because you feel like they're the most receptive to new ideas exactly they are open and they have to learn from people who are wise you know that

136:00we are the we are the elders somebody's got to do it and that's us so we have the responsibility and are we able to respond and that's right now right here that's why I'm here with you and you're asking and I can feel you are uh some you know you go deeper into uh it all then yeah what is deeper than love what is deeper than the care for a child and that's what we need and once it begins to establish the love continuously without fear of disease without fear of being unhappy without fear of being having no energy Etc then the Love Will bloom because that's the natural flower of every person and uh yeah that's why I call it children at we have to make this B this beautiful beautiful planet which is actually the best spot in all the universe we don't need to look Beyond Mars or there or there or there no just look within and make this world a better place in harmony with the nature and it

137:18begins with the children I I share that idea and and I and I've been saying to people for a long time that one of the things that makes me so enthusiastic and so optimistic about the future is the fact that we can reach kids now in a way that we couldn't reach them before we could reach kids with ideas and with open-mindedness and with just massive amounts of information that just weren't available before and that if you can change their opinion or inform them or or expose them to new ideas that generate new creative ideas inside them then you have broken the system and this system that's designed to carve paths that have already been they've already been traveled and then you know I want to be a lawyer just like my dad and you get on that same path and you get stuck and I think now there's there's an infinite number of paths and they're branching off into Infinite

138:08different directions and new streams and new new tributaries and I think we live in a beautiful time because of that cuz a guy like you in Holland can get your ideas out just do a few things and then all of a sudden people know about it and then it spreads and then you connect with other people and you connect to me and I connect to the internet and then it connects to and then there's going to people people that are practicing what you do and then they're going to tell their friends and it's going to get they're going to Tweet about and write blogs about it and boom boom boom and make videos and then it's overwhelming it becomes overwhelming and then it becomes a natural part of life yes and it is overwhelming The Wonder of life is overwhelming it is and uh media is helping us it is internet and all that to this kind of media is the best because no one's controlling it you know

138:55the fact that anybody you could start your own podcast right now nobody is controlling you ever thought about starting a podcast no not yet uh I got I got this I I got him to help me on the podcast you never did this why D you do that we'll talk to him Jamie Jamie will school him we we'll get this straight right um so beside the Harvard thing uh the studies what else do you have going on that people can look forward to uh well we got the UN different universities and uh we got different protocols out to do uh work on arthritis uh arthritis yeah and different autoimmune diseases in general and uh about depression I want to get we are able to control depression really that's amazing that's a a huge huge huge problem not just in this country but all over the world yes it's one of the one of the main problems that plagues modern human beings yes and it's not so

139:53difficult it's very simple but you know the genius of things is to make things simple and that's belief we are built to be happy strong and healthy we just need to go back to Nature the natural laws within us and uh and connect again very simple um is there anything uh that people should read that you've done or or watch is there any besides the vice documentary is there anything else that people that you recommend people check out you know uh this study which we did is actually the first study that showed that the autonomic nervous system and relationship with the endocrine systems and immune systems are deeply to be uh deeply able to be influenced so bacteria has no chance things like that you know that's crazy because that's a that's also you know I had a friend of mine who got a staff infection a horrible staff infection I posted a photo of it online

140:56the other day cuz he got MCA which is medication resistant staff infection it's horrific horrific he he should do this you think that this something like this could help that I uh I think I'm sure about it but my my son my team is always saying I don't say you are curing people I see right here unless it is totally scientifically proved it was 25 years ago I I stated something that is scientifically proved uh now and it changes science as it is well I think what they're doing is they're just they want to re you in just because they understand the importance of what you're saying yeah and that you know they're they're a they're optimistic but cautiously optimistic it is so it is so but if I see the person and then always they won't get worse of it at least mhm and I saw Mir happening because life is a miracle I saw people getting back to life you know to to be in connection

141:57with life and Trust within their own natural ability and then changing all the the disbalances so much that they felt confident within their own bodies again and taking away uh have regaining control over the immune systems and yeah then diseases go and that it's very simple you just need to do it just need to activate those systems that are already inherent in the body exactly you know I just think guys like you I mean I I want to say guys like you but I don't know anybody else like you but I think what you what what you've done is so amazing and so important because out of all these human beings of all this stuff that's going on all the different activities and interactions all the different thoughts just takes one person step out with a new unique idea that could be completely revolutionary and Chang the way people behave and the way people interface with nature and I think

142:55you've done that and uh I thank you very much man thank you for coming on here I really really appreciate it I love you I love you I love your work and keep on and uh and we do it together yes absolutely we are all on the same Mission bringing back love and confidence that we are able to do you know to be a part of this Wonder well anything you ever need tweeted or put on Facebook or put on theast just let me know and you got an open invitation to come back anytime you want I really appreciate it yes sir thank you very much whim Hoff ladies and gentlemen and uh your your Twitter page is what is Iceman what is it in A.L no the Twitter page is uh ican it's actually Iceman Hoff it's icem Manore HF and uh that's the that's the Twitter page and uh your website is uh what is your website your website is uh whof whm Hof what is it wimhofmethod.com winoff method whim w m Hof method.com

144:01thank you brother appreciate it all right folks see you soon mother holy mama yeah yeah great