Eddie Bravo, Brendan Schaub: Fight Breakdown

00:00young Jamie yeah Merry Christmas mother oh Brandon Shaw with the Gucci shoes on how dare you the gold watch on how dare you and he's got camo with polka dots I I wor this just for you your blind I thought dude yeah what do that me it says blind on one shoe and love on the other oh good lord how dare you even leave the house for you brother the shoes you did you like those shoes I love the shoes the camo shirt I wore just for you I thought it's a little bit of Rogan little bit of my style camo with polka dots on it son the day George Michael died it's like a good it's a good jacket to have on what did he die of he had a heart attack apparently partying yo that one was hard for me really love that guy that song Freedom yeah that's a Jam that song has like four parts people don't understand that there's like I think it's four uh but there's every part is just amazing that's a great

01:06song great I'm a little too young to realize how you got I wish I could play it we will definitely get kicked off YouTube if we play it and we put it on YouTube but there's there's that video that they made with all those supermodels Christy Turlington and all those all those Naomi Campbell and all those different supermodels and they're all wandered around and they're they're singing the song they're like lipsyncing it that's the video Yeah It's amazing yeah I just know they they'd wake me up before you go go that's in Zoolander he had some ridiculous songs you know oh yeah that wh Stu I was I wasn't I I like freedom I think freedom is the only one I ever lik I didn't like you know like wake me up before we go go come on that's a terrible song There's the video for kind of or it's awesome did you like I Want Your Sex I'm not mad at it I'm not mad at you got to have

01:54faith wasn't wasn't a fan of that it sounds like what these are I respect awesome he's so good he's so good dude he he's so good that he got caught with a he on his knees with a undercover cop or something like that and and no one gave a like no one gave a he was loud about you're like who cares so wait a minute here's my problem with that what the did the undercover cop say to get him on his knees to suck his dick you're gay bro we knew it arrest him no no no how did it start off it wasn't like the undercover hey how about those Lakers no he was probably like hey you want your dick sucked like I'll suck your dick you suck mine like he he probably said something they probably don't say suck dick they probably got code word code word code word right you want some sausage bro what do they say what you looking for bro looking for some friendship friendship like what they say yeah I'm

02:50looking for some friendship great I got some friendship for you do you remember when that um that what was he a senator a congressman or some that guy who was an anti-gay Crusader we always my favorite dudes got caught in a bathroom stall in like Minneapolis and he was doing that foot tapping thing they have like a code code for G you tap your feet four times and dudes would let you into the stall and you suck each other off what happens when that's what happens when dudes are into dudes right well when these kind of dudes are into dudes when these kind of dudes are into dudes yeah but I think if uh I I think it generally so ridiculous generally you know this it's weird dude you watch Modern Family you ever watch that no dude they have uh uh it's a it's a few families and they have a gay family uh they have two dudes and they adopt they adopted a girl she's an Asian girl but

03:44those guys there's been a couple episodes where this is on ABC Modern Family where uh the gay couple some college boys moving next door and then one of the guys is like hanging out with them and he feels like he's in college again and he's partying with them and he kind of has a crush on one of the guys like the main guy and his husband is like you got a crush like they're talking about it and he's like like no I don't have a crush but like it's obvious that he does and it's okay there's a couple that's fine no I know but if it was a heterosexual couple there would never be a situation like that oh they've done that before and think about it a couple a guy wanted had a crush on someone's wife open it for sure a hot neighbor moves in right but it is like where the guy is like admitting that he has a crush on the neighbor's wife like latly is that what you're saying no it's more

04:39like uh there's a there's a heterosexual couple in the sitcom and a bunch of girls move in next door and then the guy is hanging out with the girls and he has a crush on one of the girls and it's okay with his wife he thinks it's kind of cute that's weird right that would never happen I'm confused is the husb I never watched the show so help me out is the husband gay I don't know what you're saying yeah it's a gay couple G couple a gay couple and a young and a young college kids moving next door and one of the guys that one of the gay couples crushing on he's crushing on the guys that work one of the guys that moved the next door and it's kind of a cutesy crush oh wow and they're really blatant about it like he comes over and there's like these moments of like he's being flustered and I have nothing against that but I'm just saying you would never see that in

05:35a heterosexual couple on ABC no on ABC I that's some hardcore stuff right there I think even though a lot oftimes well a lot of times gay couples will take like traditional sort of almost husband and wife type roles like that's really common where one of one of the guys makes all the money and the other guy sort of stays at home and maybe they even adopt a kid and he like raises him like a mom like yeah like so but I think ultimately we still accept that gay guys are guys and that guys are just going to be different the same as like two girls becoming lesbian they're not it's like people aren't asexual if they're gay you know so people becoming lesbians they would probably have a different attitude about monogamy Than People becoming gay I would just imagine yeah it seems like overall lesbians are like they're they're in love and they monogamous it seems that way it seems like gay dudes

06:31are like open about not being monogamous and they're cool about it I don't know too much I don't know too many lesbians that where I've deep into their life it seems like they're more monogamous it seems like generally lesbians are more girly and monogamous in love I feel like super weird about asking that kind of to a lesbian like a gay dude I could ask a gay dude like Justin marale I could ask that dude anything yeah they're generally Wilder right they're like guys guys are like guys and girls like girls whether they're lesbians or gay dudes you right that's even if a girl's like a super like masculine like male a Butchy gay girl generally I still don't feel comfortable ask him like like how it works they might get offended lesbians there's not lesbians meeting each other in bathrooms it's not girls doing that right generally that doesn't happen it's

07:23usually the movies they push each other into a stall and they start making out look in the heterosexual world uh what percentage of strip clubs in the United States are for men well there's a lot more sure that weird 100 there's like one chip in Dales uh somewhere in the county you know what I mean thund you got to do some research and they're only open on you know you got to make your reservations and and the like it's a different experience like when girls go to see men strip they scream they scream and they throw money in the air and they get crazy and they'll rub their face on the dude's dicks like girls at bachelorette parties they go crazy they get loose is it because they don't go as much like as often you know what I'm saying they made an agreement they could go off on Bachelor parties and they're not yeah you're not going to say it's like what happens at the bachette

08:21party stays there right yeah I had a friend of mine who I used to do uh taekwondo with that was a male stripper two friends of mine actually one was this young Puerto Rican kid and the other one is this older white dude and the older white dude was a really nice guy very smart guy but he was like over the top strange Big Jack was he shredded though Jack Black Belt has to be black belt Marshall artist he was a Big Jack dude you know but he was telling me he was like these women they go crazy like it gets really weird scratch and Clum and they just suck your dick they would just suck his dick in front of their friends like girls that were getting married would just suck his dick in front of their friends hey man cut to the guys strip club dude's by himself in the corner all quiet as just getting La pants dude I was working I was working in the strip clubs when it was dead as I

09:12work those Saturday day shifts you had that where you open up at 11: and there's one girl and no dudes and you're just waiting you're just waiting you're looking at the security cameras to see oh we got to dude and then one guy walks in boom and he's sitting there is just it's Saturday 1:15 just a loser terrible we have one girl she's ragged oh everyone get the shitty oh and I'm sitting there playing the PES mode and dude it was it was dark people I had friends like dude you're so lucky you were in a strip club It's Not What It Seems it's not what it look they think there's like just orgies going on and I'm like DJing and like eating at the same time it's my friends are like dude get me a job there I'll just pick up Cokes and for free Larry said that Larry is like man you're so lucky I'm like H but then you end up moving up and getting good shifts you just wait for the night sh DJing

10:27yeah when you first get in you get the worst shifts Saturday day Monday day Saturday day Monday Darkness just death there's a UFC fighter was a stripper for a while K kunun Shaw remember him Detroit Superstar yeah he's over in Japan now yeah he's fighting for ryzen oh that's right yeah he's over there now he was a m stripper he's a funny dude man he's got a hilarious mustache now too all that dude you follow his Instagram it's awesome it's just him shooting things he's a Savage used to fight UFC yeah Darren Kook shank probably runs through more rounds of ammunition than anyone in this entire town in a year yeah he's crazy he's out there shooting constantly his Instagram is all just him gunning things down he's a wild dude he was fun to watch fight he's a good fighter you know he was getting more and more comfortable with keeping fight standing yes and it's

11:19when he became more and more comfortable keeping fight standing then you get to see how good his kickboxing skill is he's a really good kickboxer really good I know I say kickboxing mean his boxing he's a traditional martial artist basically right like what was his uh his original background karate or taekwon though wasn't it really good kicker man really good kicker and so like you know when a guy like that makes that transition he's hilarious Jack jacked with a candy cane for his dick look at that go back to that Jamie his see but like look at his look at the first one you see the first one you see is you click on that video it's Darren krook Shack just going crazy with a machine gun he's just shooting things constantly man look at this dude dude he's ready for oh dude if the goes down go to Darren crook shank's house ask if you can get in he's look at another video

12:18look at another video look at he's got a picture of all these Japanese girls staring at his package they're lasering in on his dick look at legit that is what they're doing that is what they're doing damn he's killing it out there who I mean that's a hilarious picture though he's a funny dude man and I don't see I don't think the UFC figured out how to how to recognize that you know what I'm saying like how many dudes that you see fight are like kind of almost like on the outside it's like they're Bland like everyone's the same because you don't get to know them you don't get to know like all their weirdness so you don't care when they fight so you don't when you if exactly it's flat right it's flat so you need a story but on a reason why to tune into the fight Kung Shaw is a great story he's a great story man do you think uh some people um had wore certain shorts and you were you

13:12recognize and byy their shorts like with sakuraba he had the orange shorts Tito had the Flames I BL and now now that uh everyone it takes away some a little value if what you're saying is correct yeah if it's that if adding personality adds value to the fighters which adds value to the show correct so actually letting them and encouraging them and letting him wear rash guards and you want toar you want to be the fighter the wears of rash guard you it's not a problem in women's MMA I don't see why it would be a problem in men's MMA tell show me the logic there they you they should encourage fighters to uh wear different youin imagine spats I know be for grip girls can wear them wearing rash cards true yeah I mean that's rash card will help your grappling for sure hu it's a big factor it's a big factor yeah uh why they don't allow I mean they just haven't really

14:11thought about it no one's actually just sat him down you know the best Melvin manhoff when he fought in K1 he wore them Gladiator talking about the Spartan Gladiator yeah do you ever he he start started wearing those things you know started remember start remember who started that McDonald remember uh McDonald I'll go you one better Alexis aruo no not Alex aruo Dennis alexio Dennis alexio used to fight in a grass skirt straight up fought in a straight up Hawaiian grass skirt yeah M McDonald had like straight Spartan how about how about shin Yoki when he was wearing them yellow tights and the rainbow he was known for his tights you couldn't wait to see what it was all colorful and it looked all badass he all scary to watch they should allow all that they should encourage that they want more a clean product when Liddell had those blue and white shorts Iceman short remember Rich

15:00Franklin had the pink ones tap takes away the personality if they wear uniforms they want to look more like every other league though it's a man on man it's personality on personality it's one one dude so his personal just one dude that person even if it's four Dudes all their personalities you know once you get to know them they become important you know so uh the more you understand everybody in this case just two fighters I also think that making it I mean if you want to have a company that sponsors it that the two aren't mutually exclusive it's not like a company can't sponsor it and still have dope shorts that are different for each fighter like have someone design their own stuff you don't have to have you know the same like you have red and I have blue like why correct it doesn't M everybody knows you're you everybody knows you're you like what who are we confused like do we

15:48who's the red guy the red guy on top who's the blue who's winning well I I just feel like it takes away from the sport when you make everyone look the same like in the NFL or something like that totally because what people buy into fighting and it's true with boxing it's true with MMA they want to know why they should watch the fight cuz you can put a fight on Access TV if you don't know the fight if you know nothing about him they don't get they get for Ratings why everybody loves Cowboy exactly his story greaty his story we know you know we know Jon Jones story now you know because he's been going through all this crazy and and we know Cyborg story and to to to kick this thing off whether you want to talk about it or not and you let me know but with Amanda Nunes imagine just put yourself in In Her Shoes right now imagine having the biggest fight of your life ever and

16:34the the the fight everyone's looking for especially for your female fighter because you get so much notoriety you get all the cameras Point At You people you finally get to hear your story and she has a great story and then you can't do interviews there's none of that there's no promotion we're not going to show your videos you can't do interviews there's going to be no open workouts imagine being her right now like what the well the good news is she can concentrate on the fight and just concentrate on the fight she would always do that I understand that and the good news for Rhonda is that she can also just concentrate in the fight like she doesn't have to do any of these interviews I like that but I don't like is I feel like we have to respect what a champion is and it doesn't matter if you're the most famous person you're still the champion and we when you're

17:22the champion of a giant organization like the UFC and how about she's the first open gay women's MMA champion ever or any Champion any MMA champion there's never been an openly gay MMA champion and she's badass it's not like she doesn't have a highlight reel it's not like she's grabbing a hold of these girls and just sort of winning by staying on top and do nothing so there's no highlights you can pull oh she knocks girls out and chokes them unconscious she's very good so it's exciting it's an exciting technical matchup it's an exciting story with Ronda coming back after being out for over a year there's so much exciting but to concentrate only on one person to sell it I understand that that person is huge I understand that person's the biggest person she's probably right up there with Connor I would go they both go back and forth stat would makeig the differ

18:15what do you think you think Conor bigger yeah that's not an argument I would um I would agree with you I would I would lean towards that my point is I with one Victory she could get launched right into that that place again I think it's a weird weird thing man it's like you're you're a super talented person who's also this giant personality figure it's it's it's more than just a fighter right it becomes his personality figure especially for Connor like that that his whole talking and marketing and he sends out a tweet to sell the fight part of being a fighter is selling the fight see what you want about Floyd Mayweather there's not an interview or camera he didn't look towards to sell that Pacquiao fight cuz in in the end it helps the company helps it puts more money in your pocket it helps sponsorship everything you can't say anything about Floyd unless you were one

19:05of those girls they godamn it godamn than that who else but it's part of the gig you got to sell the fight so for me and I think Rhonda is the favorite in this matchup but she has to create these scenarios where it's me against the world it's me against the world are you sure she's creating in this I this is a big marketing push this is like you know this is the new owners of the UFC and this is this and this is the but this is this really uh cinematic thing that we're missing the boat on well we definitely missing the boat on the numbers will prove it I bet you we definitely missing the boat on promoting Amanda that that for a fact but you don't think it was like a pretty exciting promo piece I saw that promo piece that got me fired up I think it the good thing is that it's like this really exciting very well done cool thing you think much promo you think

19:57this fight has as much promo as say UFC 205 in New York no no I don't or Conor fight to that magnitude no because no one's doing interviews yeah no I 100% completely agree with you to that point but part of me likes I want to see what happens when the the pay-per-view numbers come out because part of me likes that the fighters aren't going to be bothered I don't think you need to bother them as much as they get bothered I think when Connor was was pissed off about it when Aldo's pissed off about when all these different fighters who are doing these crazy tours are pissed off about this promotion thing the the idea about it is you're trying to get the word out to as many people as possible but I don't know if like that the price that they pay and being distracted from their training I don't know if it's 100% worth Conor you're talking about a world tour where he's

20:43like dude come on I'm coming off the loss Nate Diaz is a tough fight for me at 170 I need everything I can do to to get this fight and get my mind right do it helps do you think that it helps these these big promo tours um yes and no I I I you know I don't know if you need to go all around the freaking world and promote it but there needs to be some sort of um publicity done for for Ronda especially I I I think her as a role model for females you can't get kicked in the face take your ball and go home we want our champ to be like Connor or someone where they go I want back in there man get give me the back in there I need this I think that it's cool that obviously bronda doesn't want all that she's as famous as you can be she doesn't want that and someone just said okay you know they let her just have her peace and focus on the fight I personally don't really watch interviews

21:39I don't watch that press so I don't even know how important it is all I care about is that fight that's it once the fight happens give me a little Pro a little promo give me a little hour promo it doesn't have to be like you know anything fancy we're balls deep in it though for the Casual fan my dad's a casual fan he has no idea she was fighting this Friday so for the Casual fan that's where I would think that it would make a big difference people watch ESPN and well that that's who buys pay-per-views Joe because to get that to get that $60 $70 and you're a casual fan they need to be sold on it it sounds like it sounds like you own a piece of the UFC right now he's making good points making very good points already I'm just being funny no I hear you but you are making very good points my my my my issue is and and Ron can do her thing but you you can't it's

22:26a conflict of interest here's here's because of Conor McGregor right cuz Conor goes dude I'll fly to New York and a press conference but I'm not going to Vegas cool you're not fighting right Rona goes I'm not doing Dan goes cool different different owners now different owners however they have a different approach I mean it's a different business I mean a lot of things are changing they're changing they're changing Joe but also WME who owns the UFC manages Ronda Rousey yeah they don't manage Conor McGregor so there's a conflict of interest there well um it depends because it's just a business decision the only people that should be upset are probably the other people well Cody garbrandt and Dominick Cruz aren't restricted from doing any interviews right they're doing everything are they going to sell the fight though that's a problem it's they're going to sell them

23:12for me that's for sake again Ball Deep In It balls the Casual fans going I'm not buy I'm not spend $70 for those small guys now it's to me it's the number one fight no to me it's the number one fight on the card I love Cody it's my number one fight but Brendon wants his promo right he's right no no what I want is what I want is the UFC to keep growing and uh it it comes with the territory you got to sell your St but it's cool for the fighters though don't you think that they're respecting their wishes like Ronda just wanted to be left alone that's fine respect her that media is the exact reason why she's as famous as she is it's okay though we're trying to help but wait a minute but you don't have to only do press while you're in Camp like that media exists after the fights which is easy for for everybody just talk after the fights but during the the training and

23:59preparation it's a giant distraction it's going to take a lot of time a decision if someone's as rich and as famous as Ronda is a decision to to favor performance over finances so like maybe she'll make less money but she thinks that she'll be more focused and her performance to be better I love that I love that decision when you're really wealthy when you're a really wealthy successful athlete like her you can do whatever the you want that's what I think I think when you get to a point where you get to side whether you're going to focus on making more money and possibly being less focused and distracted and maybe tired or even maybe get sick cuz you're doing a lot of traveling versus only dedicate yourself to training do all the videos you want put all the promos you want I'm not doing for the next eight weeks so then where do it stop at who's going to sell the

24:48fight if everyone has that mentality who so is that is that the is that the rule now you know what I'm saying listen no I don't know what you're saying because the old way is not the only way you could do both ways you could do whatever way you want they they could decide that their little promo pieces they could put together without interviews are enough they could fly out you know what they could just fly to her for two days interview her at her training camp that's what they did for Tony and then they take off Tony was in Big Bear he never left Big Bear they came to him do one of those it was no big deal it's look she definitely could do that or she could say no I just want to completely focus and let's see how this works but her her thing is is that she thinks the media backstabbed her and that's why she only do the interview like they turn on on when she lost she's

25:31a very emotional person it's one of the reasons one of the reasons why she's so good I agree she's very emotional but to me it sounded like my voice was cracking up I swear to God I like damn Ro about to cry over this having a conversation Doug um but but to me it's if if you're a a Ronda fan like when you break this fight down there's an there's a huge X Factor what FR frame of mind is Rhonda in if she won't even face interview yeah but okay maybe or I'm saying it's an yeah maybe maybe she's the most focused she's ever been or maybe she just can't deal with the the questions after her last fight we don't know well yeah you it's she's the only one who knows you know or the people that are close to Ronda is like you said famous as lives in a mansion what about Amanda oh yeah about well for her she should absolutely be able to do as many interviews as she want but she

26:23might not want to either she might want to say hey good I'm going to focus entirely on fighting to two look this might be better it might be better this way it's just like we were talking about weight cutting before I it might be better if people didn't cut weight look how goddamn good Kelvin gastan looked against Tim Kennedy look how goddamn good Donald Cerrone looks Donald's walking around like 176 pounds he's not cutting and he looks amazing he's head kicking Matt Brown you know he's running through everybody Tony doesn't cut that much either Yeah by con at 55 5bs will cut those guys man they have an advantage that's a big ass Advantage weight weight cut yes I agree huge Advantage I think the weight cut like the I think there's benefits to It ultimately obviously you're going to be bigger when you get inside the Octagon but the performance hit that your body takes it's super

27:13arguable at a certain level there's a point of diminishing returns that a lot of these guys pass through but then there's a few examples like Damen Maya Daman Maya cuts a lot of weight and he's just smushing people Anthony Johnson I don't think Johnson's cutting that much weight at 205 bro I think he might be cutting 10 15 PBS no sir looks really good at 220 22 looks really much for a big guy like that though I'm just saying he's I mean 20 lounds 20 lb 20 lbs is different when you're a heavyweight or a light heavyweight for heavyweight he's lean too true he's jacked who's Damen May figh next Damen Maya I don't know man I think they're waiting to Shadows like Woodley if Woodley and Wonderboy have a rematch Woodley's campaigning for a fight with Nick Diaz which I would love to see I'd also love see I like to see Woodley get paid too I like I like what he's doing I like that he's

28:10trying to get paid trying GSB DS just the big names to make money I want to see it happen I like I like his initiative I like it you know people are like oh you're just trying to get paid bro yeah yeah by the way those are all amazing fights like what are you talking about you don't want to see him versus GSP yes sir tell people to lose your number everybody's tell them tell them BR tell them right now lose your number if you don't want to see that fight you wouldn't want to see that fight that's the sport though you want the biggest name possible with the highest payday cuz either way you're probably getting punched in the face hey but also I want to see the Wonder Boy rematch I want to see that too I do but upset with any of those i' rather see Diaz or GSP I'm I honestly I'm even on it I'm even on Diaz GSP or the Wonderboy rematch mad Wonderboy is a bad dude and the when he was in

28:58that Guillotine and didn't tap and it looked like his head was literally going to be removed from his body I don't know man he maybe his neck is so small that's what Tyron was saying that his neck is so small you got to like really squeeze it someone else was saying that too like his neck is so small able maybe he can like make more room cuz it's harder to get a really tight squeeze on itz cuz Woodley has some big ass arms so he fig I'd make up for it Woodley also said that he's got a little head so his head could pop out easier I hear that that makes sense right yeah I got a small head myself it's an advantage not not when getting punched in the face if you got some crazy Alex caceras do that has got to be an advantage to the guy hanging on for right yeah I mean to Alex if you get Alex caceras and atine like there's a lot of he's got to go through a lot of it's not like my

29:49head was like whop you know well remember they having uh they had homeboy in um Cana shave his beard oh that's right Emil Emil Mech he had a powerful beard he was calling himself a meal Meek forever and then just the day before the fight he told everybody it was Mech like all right man like all right dude cool whatever you want why do you have two e then how about just make one e Jesus Christ why does everybody have why do we have to keep the dumb way of spelling that are ancestors who came over on rafts well cuz we all understand that you just can't make some up yes you can no you can't well you definitely two e is e all right it's not e it's just not it's just not we got r we got rules man okay we got rules for sounds we got rules man I remember Roy being so pissed when he's fighting Kimbo he want him to cut his beard he's like it's an advantage what if I get a hold of his

30:38neck the commissioner was like I don't what it's Kimbo Slice we're not cutting his beard what he wants to do man so sad I know right yeah the personality Wars you know personality Wars versus uh I mean look is Kimbo sliced now beard is huge you know the idea originally was that somehow the beard protected you but this is ridiculous that doesn't make any sense unless you have like some crazy rosarian dread locked out beard like if you could have like a thick roped up dread locked out beard Caribbean yeah I think then you can make the argument but who what what kind of a human is capable of growing the same kind of facial hair that you grow on your head has anybody ever grown Jamie look this up has anybody ever grown like a legit tap Fletcher a little bit right T Fletcher but he needs to roll that up and braid it he does now does yeah he braids it sometimes

31:31he's like a that that referee too has that really long ropey oh that's true he was just the referee the other night during uh Mike belr yeah Mike yeah that's right he's awesome yeah Mike has that's right Mike has like ponytails he he has pigtails he has pigtails hanging off his chin face pigtails Mike's a cool guy he's great guy very good referee too one of the coolest guys I know me too super super good dude super good dude and he pulls that mustache off being that cool he's the only one he's the only one's the only one if everybody started growing that mustache' be like slow the down he the only you understood his background it would make sense he's a good dude man great look at that that's hilarious now if he fought an MMA they'd OB make him cut it because you could use that to choke him uh yeah I guess you could yeah or he could choke you with it you know if he gets on top

32:21you get to Ezekiel with that go quit a brown yeah yeah yes I wonder how he rolls and he you know does he roll that up he's a brown belt and he's huge does he put it that guy's big he a big big samity he's not 5'9 no he's a giant dude and his Sun's even bigger does he put in like a like a chin bun like a man bun thing you'd have to ask him you'd have to put like a thing over it yeah maybe in underneath the chin but then again that would kind of get in the way I would imagine the braids like could be avoided just like other kind of braids and there's Ronda biting his braids well that was actually it looks like okay yeah so he just sort of ties at the bottom of it in like little rubber bands and he's a great referee that guys on top of his dude there's a lot of good ones man this is a good time for MMA there's a lot of like super experienced guys that are

33:12just uh it's so important when you're watching a fight when you think like a fight could be stopped and then you know and then a guy gets through it Fighters know it too when you're in the back locker room they go hey I'm going be a ref tonight there's certain guys be like like who who refereed uh Wonder Boy and um Tyron Herb Dean right what a great job he was it Herb Dean or McCarthy pretty sure it's herb though those guys they don't they don't get enough credit you know yeah they know the fighters you know and they they know that what how tough these guys are and they can be in those spots everyone everyone's got their classic fuckups as a referee I don't remember any by Big John McCarthy you don't remember Millo Buon tapping out Matt lindland twice oh that's right that's righto bante got Matt l tapped he let go and he said I didn't tap and then Millo got him again the

34:02next round with a guillotine that wasn't a up that was like the dude ghost tapped or something you know what I mean he lied he tapped and he said he didn't tap yeah but that's not that I mean how B fight a championship fight but but looking back thank God Dan merata Dan mlat great job in that fight great job great job great job in that fight yeah he's great too yeah he's great he's great too Dan's a really good guy too and giant he he's a gorilla that guy gives me a hug I feel like he's my daddy me too sit on his lap the hug Daddy sit on his lap but another really good referee you know who's another really good referee that uh Josh Rosenthal very good referee I hope you is he out of prison yeah yeah yeah he's out yeah he's out he was awesome very good referee he got caught up in some sort of pot thing yeah he had like plants and in his house not good whatever but he's out now and I he I

34:56guess he's refereeing again for other organizations but he was very good I don't remember him ever up and really smart guy when he comes to MMA knows a lot of he's Jiu-Jitsu brown belt I think under uh who's he under is he under Caesar Gracie I think so I think so but he's a legit it's important is it half it's really important they train like McCarthy's rolling all the time so they know what positions to look for transitions isn't it funny how those Northern California guys are known as like real hard style Jiu-Jitsu guys like Hal and Caesar and you know when you when you you start talking about like those Northern California jiujitsu schools Hal has always had a reputation of like if you go like U of frowning upon tapping yeah like if you tapped in front of half that was the story it could be totally blown out of proportion but us training down um with Jean jacqu

35:46we heard we heard the crazy stories about half that that he looked uh down on tapping like you got to escape you got to escape don't tap how about Dave Terrell here's another one bad from the north of California there was like that heart he came from that same camp that hard style Camp it could be a total myth though you know what I mean that's what we thought though we thought man he those guys are so tough but don't you don't like people have like a feel to them like you hear like oh this guy's a half black belt you go o like that's that's that's a like one of those black belts where you go this guy's probably a Savage better be on my yeah it's just a half black belt is like there's a super aggressive style right would you like automatically came from Dave Camaro Dan Camaro like when you hear hickon you hear someone's a hickon black belt you gooo 100% whoa

36:35okay this guy's legit as 100% legit there's no there's no like and especially hick especially when they're Hicks and black belts they're really game too oh yeah like at the Grace Academy if a lot of hicks and guys go up there I mean they are they game super game look at cron cron hixon's he said he's a A Cut Above the elite like Hixon is everyone says when they rolled Hixon or you know back in the day that they were just completely immobilized and dismantled everyone has their hickon story and you look at Crone Crone very few Jiu-Jitsu players like croh Cron's got a serious full guard serious Gil Guillotine and his full guard attacks you don't see that that much in grappling anymore someone with a full guard that's dangerous Cron's got that Cron's Cron's a a little a little bit different than your your average Elite you should see his workouts when I when

37:31I was doing a a grappling competition uh cron was on it too so I trained with him for like a week at his school in Culver City there dude they would do these two two and a half hour workouts his cardio is insane what kind of was he doing he would do this crazy warmup crazy warmup and we'd go over position position position and then it was like a uh King of the Hill where we'd match up and however long it took until someone got submitted then the two guys be at the end then the rest of the map would stare and watch those two guys at the end Jesus Christ mhm it was intense super intense wow and he does a lot of like nutty gymnastics too right he does that he does the breathing thing like his dad and and at the end cron and I were going against each other probably 15 20 minutes straight and they caught me in an arm bar wow he's he's not he's tiny size he tiny rolling with all

38:28monsters and then with my big ass it was just douch armar yeah and he's always training with Nick and Nate you know he's training with animals for for a while now it's been a while it's been a minute and it's looking like a striking coming together he's looking comfortable special dude yeah very very special dude and special jeans their son special jeans handsome fell handsome little structure also yes just like his papa right yeah uh but also he's just a good dude to be around like you feel like you're around a samurai very good dude well he's legit as man I mean it's he's the rare exception to show me the man the son of a great man great man he's the rare exception yeah he has the mentality because you look at guys like uh Julio Chavez Jr you look at these guys who come from that kind of pedigree it usually doesn't correlate they're usually like kind of soft or they're

39:19missing a few things the discipline not there the discipline was not just not there just didn't quite have the same discipline as his dad but he was still talented liked to party though well don't you not like that I think our parting is different you know what I'm saying yeah for sure man for sure he's on that Jon Jones party you know what I'm saying there's partying and then there's J Jones party well you know he's the son of like one of the greatest if not the greatest Mexican boxing champion of all time Julio Caesar Chavez is a legend when he fought meldrick Taylor remember that fight Man melc Taylor was lightning Olympic gold medalist during the the Heyday the mark Breeland Heyday remember those guys that that whole crew of Olympic gold medals Pernell Whitaker and meldrick Taylor was just lightning he just hit dudes these ridiculous combinations Chavez just kept

40:10slugging away bobbing and weaving and ripping to the body and slugging away did you ever see his fights outdoor in Mexico yeah I've seen most of fight I mean they're just like it's like a Coliseum GRE hgan oh yeah we fought him in in Mexico but back to the meldrick Taylor fight let me this is what remember this is what I remember controversy in the first fight the end of the round it looks it looks like MRI Taylor was winning he was he was stealing the fight and then at the end Chavez last round was him up had him against the ropes and the ref stopped it but there was only like two seconds left Richard steel right did it go down like that yep yep two seconds left to the 12th round and he stopped the fight and he stopped the fight because MC went down hard and he got up and he was out of it and Rich steel looked in his eyes and he waved him off and he said he would do it again

40:59too he said it doesn't matter if there's only 2 seconds left in the fight he goes I know this guy's not fit to fight anymore he's like he got stopped damn he got him up he looked in his eyes meld Taylor was looking at him and he asked him some questions and Taylor wasn't answering them and he's like this you don't get a lot of that in and meld was beating him the whole fight right yes but in his credit Richard Steel's credit meldrick tayor was never the same again never the same after that fight he was right he was done he just was right in front of him touching him looking him in the eyes fight see it Julio Cesar Chavez Ko's MC Taylor and this was a fight where MC Taylor's speed and footwork he was just he was ahead he was ahead on the scorecard he was getting the better of him in the beginning of the fight that that ref sto in that fight and you hear

41:40Freddie Roach talk about he goes I wish my corner would have tossed in the towel or the referee would have jumped in way sooner in a lot of my fights yeah well Freddy took a lot of he took a lot of punishment but if you asked him back then if they he wanted them to stop the fight he might have said no look how good Chavez was my God he was so good with his angles he was our hero dude he was so good he was our hero that was the greatest Mexican boxer of all time for sure right who was better than him you could learn so much watching his Tech great that was everything he throws everything he throws is like short and perfect that was R Chuck Norris he was a bad dare you comparing Chuck Norris he was a bad I was a huge Chavez fan when he fought Greg hgan he was the guy that said uh yeah he's got a cuz he was like uh ta all his opponents were taxi crab drivers

42:30that's right his son has skills he just doesn't have that it Factor he's just not this guy this guy's a different guy this guy first of all his son is a Winger you know he Wings bombs you know and he's a he's a hard Striker his son can k no doubt he's a big boy Cesar Chavez was a different kind of fighter he was much more of a volume fighter and would throw perfect technique punches and would never run out of gas he would be on you for 12 rounds throwing bombs on you and just never letting up boom talk about a guy not Punchy either have you seen his interviews no he's fine pretty legit well I don't speak Spanish there it is he hurts him he hurts him with that right look at this dig to the body look at that left hook man come on good turn and he turns him around and drops him with that right hand perfect right hand God look M Taylor's down and the referee's counting him he's eight seven

43:23six he's not right five four he's you okay you okay okay and he has no idea where he is he won't respond Mel Tay doesn't know where he is so Richard steel stops the fight that is a correct call it's a great job you're they're crazy cuz they thought he was going to win the fight that fight was over man if they let him hit him again he might have died obviously not M me you never know I mean I shouldn't have said that probably but you know what I'm saying like that's that's what that comes from that's that comes from when a guy's done there's a boxer who just died not just but a few months ago in Australia a professional boxer I like the fact that they're trying to like if you listen to HBO commentary like guys will be like hanging in there in the fight and you'll hear Max callman say they could very reasonably make a case for stopping this fight and I'm like thank you I know

44:08right before you never ever heard that you never heard that you never heard that even the NL there's the guy who got rocked man I hope he doesn't come back hope he's all right they're put him in the concussion protocol who was that dude that just quit on uh did he quit on Golovkin no lenko no no no uh against Sergey laneno even really getting rocked though like he was just outclass he's like this I'm not winning whatever even though I'm undefeated I'm just done you're talking about homeboy uh Kell Brook yes K BR theyo he was merked get couldn't see out of his eye and his Corner was like no he was fighting Golovkin yes yeah yeah but two F Well the Kell Brook fight um was a little bit controversial the lomachenko fight was much more controversial right where most people were like this is ridiculous yeah because he really wasn't getting he just quit Nicholas Walters

44:57was undefeated before this but he had he had taken some time off apparently and that was supposed to be like a big test for liachenko and then even Max Kellerman he goes in the ring and he goes you know just just as a boxing connoisseur usually go out on your Shield like you really weren't getting hit and he goes no there was uh there's a left hand in there that wobbled me and he's like well we can't like do can you give us the time round anything he's like no but I I was hurt man that's why I stopped and even you know M tman how many boxing matches it's like he's the the Joe Rogan of boxing he was like dude like this this is going to hurt your career man so they're saying all those years he put into finally establish himself and get this fight and then you quit and there there's really no damage he just it was like Mighty Mouse just all around he didn't know

45:44what to do he had no answer was just like I I can't I'm just going to get embarrassed I think he was getting hit a little bit more than that I agree with you but I think lomachenko was really laying it to him was it what round did they stop it in seven seventh round the fight the round for that so was it the end of the seventh how does that work or is it the beginning of the seventh he doesn't come out to his corner so it's the seventh doesn't answer the Bell right for the seventh so was the sixth round lomachenko was just putting it to him man and was just really getting on him and I think he he saw the end I was like he's like I can't even hit this guy I didn't have a problem with it I was like yeah you're definitely never beating him as a as a fighter and most other other Fighters go that guy doesn't have a Fighter's heart like he shouldn't be in there yeah

46:24I think I think both arguments could be made I agree but I think uh I would lean more towards yours because like you never know like look Chavez was getting outclassed earlier in that fight with M Taylor and he never gave up he keep chipping away and people will Define you based on how quickly you're willing to give up like but I think the skill level you know do you know who L lomachenko is dude he's from outer space he's he's an alien he's bad Russ from Russia he's a dude from Russia oh what's wait Triple H no no no you thinking Triple G Grady different guy lomachenko is actually maybe more more technical he's more skilled for sure pull up a lomachenko uh highlights but but Joe to your pointen the most skilled box in the world does no publicity oh this is the video seven viewers well he's 125 lbs like you were saying but look at this look at these the footwork on D

47:22his angles his angles are filthy it's so hard for people to hit him clean he's is just so technical like he just pushes dudes around look I mean he's he's laying to this dude are you ready for this hting him too man he has seven fights seven Pro fights yeah he just has so many amateur PS six one but look Walters hit him a couple of times there I see that's where I could see your argument much more I it's not like Walters didn't occasionally connect it's just for sure lenko was connecting more than him so for him to make the decision to just opt out look at that come on man this you can't can't say he's not getting hit he's getting hit like right there he got hurt right there he's holding on to the glove look lenko is all over him here man I mean it makes sense he Gold Medal winner he sees the end man he's Gold Medal winner twice yes two separate Olympics right yep he sees

48:14the end what do you mean he's he's getting up that's why Walters quit you know his like in the corner look at him there in the corner dude he's up he's he's also broke mentally too he's like I'm not I can't compete with this guy yeah and I just I I see everybody's point but I see I see his point too at the end he looked like he was getting up I wish you could have gotten into freaking Bernard Hopkins here before his last fight have we we haven't talked about that right no get douche out of the oh yeah you're Hol of F at 51 check this out out of the have you seen this here here's one thing I have to say about that out of the ring boxing needs boxing needs do something boxing needs to do something about that ring thing that's not that should never be able to happen where a guy can fall through the Rings the ropes and here you're talking about a guy who's been

49:01fighting for 23 something years how long's Hopkins been fighting and he can still fall through the ropes like you shouldn't have ropes you should have some sort of a mesh inside the ropes this is Joe Smith Jr knock loose Bernard Hopkins Who falls through the rops ropes rops Jesus Christ and lands on his head and Smith is a bad dude this is a this was a dangerous fight Smith also has arms that look like uh like a popey bad guy arms a heavyweight they're like too long long his arms are like too long for his body like those that that game dude he Bernard Hopkins up it was rough like this look at him he C do something and that was the end of the fight right there yeah yeah yeah I fell on his head man this is the worst part Bernard kept going he pushed me out of the ring and they showed the replay then Max is in the locker room with him he goes what do you think

49:50happen goes I got pushed man it's dude he just landed on his head that is that was a real fight right but no it's a real fight he was he was I mean Joe Smith was winning no Joe Smith was winning the fight up until that moment and then he knocked him through the ropes have a rematch I don't know man I don't think I think Hopkins is done but that's dangerous the way he fell like that he fell and landed on his head man and no wonder why he's he's you can't hold him accountable for anything he's saying right now that guy clearly landed on his head after taking some really solid shots you guys know the rule on that if you get knocked out of the ring No 2 second to jump back in why why do they have ropes look man that's why don't have a mesh in between those ropes where that can't happen damn when happens but it does happen it's happened before it happened in U what's his name uh Ray

50:41Mercer fight remember when Tommy uh Tommy Morrison got tangled up in the ropes his arms went through the ropes guys have fallen out of the ropes before he's fall he's fallen out of the ropes before D this isn't the first time that's a huge fall yeah oh yeah the cameraman should be fired or beat when he went backstage I think people can fall through the ropes it just doesn't happen that often but when you get tagged like he did and he stepped on his foot too yo dude he got he was getting lit up but go back he thre seven punch combo no I didn't even see it look I unless I'm look look unless look at this boom boom boom boom no he I'm I thought he stepped on his well was it's hard to pay attention to everything in there but that was a vicious combination and the reason why he went through the ropes is cuz his legs were on they gave out when his butt was down and then he

51:29got clipped again and his body just went limp he also went through the ropes cuz that left freaking Hook from Rhode Island laying Square in his jaw that was not a push assassination not a way you want to go I'm telling you the worst part about that was him falling on his head none of it's good horrible that's horrible how do they not have pads down there how do they not have some sort of a uh like you know that's possible why you have people fight on a platform anything can happen to have pads down that's what they should do they should absolutely have like Judo crash pads how hard would that be you know have that as a buffer in between the tables have everybody push back a little bit like the fact that that can happen to a guy like Hopkins who's been fighting as long as he is scary right yeah he has to be done now man because that was the worst damage he's ever taken done yeah he said

52:19he's done he was thinking about he's never been stopped that exchange was awful not just for the punches because he still takes a great punch he might have went down from the punches and got up and even survived the round true but landing on your head like that is no bueno that's scary to watch man he could have died there for sure damn that's twice I brought that up so extreme but it's true he could have died probably sto being so extreme but it's not you guys care deeply these Fighters you'd love them well 51-year-old falling out of the ring on concrete on his head and he's a god he's on Mount Rushmore for boxing I think you got to give him credit for taking that fight cuz that guy he picked that guy out he's crazy what the he thought he saw something in him that he might be able to exploit and he was wrong how much money did he get for that fight $7 like like five million or something

53:08like that good question I don't know 2 million 1 million a deal with he's Golden Boy Productions too right he's a part of Golden Boy so he's a promoter if he got 1 million it's worth that falls worth it you not if you're a guy like Berard not if you're a guy like a million to Berard a lot money you'll be fine already has millions yes you know Bernard is a wealthy guy but still even if it doesn't matter if he has 10 million if he made a million for that fight him falling on his head like that like not if he's never the same again Eddie if you for brain trauma for a million dollars that's like saying people would line up say you've never had any brain trauma huh um that means no no you haven't it leads to severe depression that sometimes people never get out of there's all sorts of real huge issues with your hormonal system like you're essentially compromising the quality of

53:56your life life forever certain circumstances does count 100% nowt with helmets but I know people that have been KO that were essentially never the same again $800,000 he made it was worth it it was worth it I wonder if that's the whole purse cuz that might be just like when he got paid for the fight that's a lot of money dude come on he might have got a percentage of you know the promotion because he's the guy that all right even 2 million a guy like Bernard Hopkins is not worth it the problem is the landed it wasn't just the punches that he took cuz he's so skilled he's good at like moving with shot he was definitely going out okay that left hook his legs were going out he got clipped he got hit with hammers he was going out he was eating shots before that too but if he went down in the middle of the Ring we might be thinking you know like maybe he could

54:43survive the round or maybe the referee's going to stop the fight he definitely wouldn't have taken that the the real issue was his whole body was limp when he fell he just went right through it's tough to watch that's awful man just put some netting in man make it so that can happen you know you remember how the old school Valley tudo Days used to have a net in the bottom rope that's pretty cool that was pretty dope no it doesn't have to be that ridiculous like that cuz that was a fishing net would let dudes fight outside the ring like WWE it seems like those ropes were a little loose too you could fall out those ropes were definitely loose yeah that's not good that's a huge issue but that might have been something that Bernard liked so he can move you know like Bernard is really good at like moving away from and if he's contained against like a hard rope he doesn't have that ability to

55:29pull in this stuff and you know like the best fighters who are really good at like utilizing the ropes will like lean back away from punches on the ropes and and again it's Golden Boy promotion so I'm sure he had some say in that that's a good point that kid is a killer well he also fought in his last fight he he fought uh kovalev like he's taking on two killers in a row kovalev did you really think you're going to beat that guy I mean that's why we love Bernard Hopkins but God that just shows you what a champion that guy is that he took those two fights that he decided to take the crusher and then this kid who is a relative unknown to most people but super dangerous super he's got one one loss one yeah but he's super dangerous huge he's huge and he throws bombs well but I don't get it though because he do a great job at HBO right doing commentating he's 51 what else do

56:20you need to do and Roy Jones is the same way Roy Jones will fly to Turkey fight on some weird like live stream and just get wax in the next week I think Roy Jones owes a lot of money in taxes I think that's what's going on that's what I had read that he owed millions of dollars in taxes from when he was a champ maybe he got bad financial advice I don't know what the the instances were but uh that's why he does it yeah that's a bummer I'm pretty sure that's what's going on that that would make sense because it's like why are you fighting this random Russian and well he's in Russia now like a lot like he's a Russian citizen what yeah Roy Jones Jr is a Russian citizen he live in Florida too though yeah might as well be Russia they can have it I'm kidding my sister lives there my sister I'm sorry I'm sorry her whole family's there it's just weird yeah guys fight yeah um kovalev is uh he's

57:14dist he's out of Florida too he's been trained actually didn't he train up here for the last one I think he did I think he trained in Oxnard Roy Jones Jr officially becomes Russian citizen with Moscow passport ceremony wow that crazy you know what man um he's probably just enjoying his life over there having a good time true it's just hard to see you got to accept who he is now and not think of who he is now versus who he used to be impossible yeah that's what it really is because one of the things that like Disturbed me this is going to sound so up Disturbed me about his last knockout loss was how his body looked I was looking at his body and I was like this is this is Roy Jones Jr like he looked like he was not fit and it's not it's not an age thing cuz Bernard looked really fit when he fought uh Joe Smith Jr Bernard looked very fit he didn't look like he did when he was

58:0730 no but he looked very fit he looked in shape he looked in shape you know 51y but like when we were looking at Chavez like Chavez never looked stra he never looked like Melvin manhoff you know Julio Caesar Chavez was like fairly smooth he wasn't like this Jack dude K Vasquez sty yeah yeah yeah but just would still murder guys so I feel like what we saw with Roy though was different thing it's like this can't he can't be working out like hard he's just showing up and hoping to murk these guys well he's such so skilled and he's been doing it for so long he probably feels like he's got a certain amount of boxing in see that knockout wasn't good and another guy he fought he fought a killer he fought a straight up killer see the the UFC would never allow that like say like if Liddell wanted to come back they no no sir well well that's one of the benefits of Dana being

58:54your friend you know like Dana just doesn't want to have he just does not want to be a part of that and he's like I care about him I don't want him fighting again and he's right I don't think they' let any of those oldtimers come back in well that's the you know the problem is you can't tell someone what they can and can't do right they're a grown ass man but you also have to realize at a certain point in time like a fight that that ego that a fighter has but it's hard to say like who's who's right and who's wrong because like they said that about Bernard Hopkins when he fought Kelly pavick when he fought Kelly pavick they said he was done that's such the exception Joe he's such the exception the alien but because he was that exception we we got to watch some crazy fights but think now but think about the other exceptions that it never worked out well the difference is also

59:42Bernard had never been knocked out before true and he was really skillful technically like really difficult to hit but it also would diminish the your product like the UFC would never have like Coleman come back or Don fry what about I think came back what about that that was that's that was huge though mhm yeah that was huge but you know that fight was it's on man it's like at a certain you don't want to see a certain amount of deterioration from your Champs I don't want to see Jerry Rice catching passes right now with his bad knees I don't mind seeing old dudes fight old dudes why not let them fight oh we're so worried about their all just if they want to fight Let Them Fight You Remember When Ray Mercer fought Larry Holmes your ass Larry boxes off like godamn Larry Holmes was like 46 or some then we're not going to let you fight find out how old Larry Holmes was when he fought Ray

60:33Mercer and this is after Mike Tyson had merked him Mike Tyson merked him and then Mike Tyson went to jail and then he's like as long as that motherfucker's in jail I'm boxing he came back out he came back out Hest as what's that he was honest as he was honest as the kings in jail they CED the line yeah I'm coming out well he was also fear everyone had when they fought Mike Tyson in those early days damn I would have loved to have seen Larry Holmes in his prime fight Mike Tyson though we got really fck 42 oh that's not that bad that's that's a different 42 though that's not like a 42 in 2016 that's a 1992 42 that means zero zero Mexican supplements it's a totally different right a totally different human set of 42y old that crazy different think about that cuz Larry Holmes got to be in his late 60s or some right well I think he retired when he was like 51 or

61:31something like that I think he had like a fight like in his 50s but uh Larry Holmes in his prime like the Larry Holmes that up Muhammad Ali he would give anyone a run for their money well M scary how big they were that was that was the end of Muhammad Ali 100% you're definitely right still when you talk about like a vintage merer or you talk about George Foreman those guys were so big man but you look at like Larry's Body here this is not the same body that he had like when he fought Ali he he was deer and he had like a little bit of uh well actually doesn't look bad right here man doesn't look bad right here this looks like the Larry Holmes that fought Mike Tyson which was like hands down that oh he look good man one two but a little slower than he was when he was young Ray Mercer was always a murderer though man he was a scary dude Ray Mercer started late in his career wasn't

62:22he a military guy he started in his 30s Olympic gold medal in boxing and uh did it from the Army he's a bad dude and he hit hard but Larry Holmes once the fight wore on got that jab work it's weird whenever I think back to these fights those I always think those guys hit so much harder than guys now well um they were knockout artists and a knockout artist like Ray Mercer he could be a knockout artist in any generation but Larry Holmes he would give anybody today a run for their money anybody Anthony Joshua he would up a lot of these guys man Klitschko Larry Holmes like go to Larry Holmes to beat Muhammad Ali because you're here you watching Larry Holmes it's like 42 years old in 1992 which is like 80 today 85 no trt and no vitamins and no didn't know nothing about keto but watch Go full screen and then just go to like the middle of the fight man D I went for

63:22the holiday look how good Larry Holmes looked back here man oh look at his movement yeah way leaner way leaner way faster look at his head movement nasty jab that's a different Muhammad Ali though yeah it is a different Muhammad Ali and it's a different Larry Holmes too this is Larry Holmes who was a Punisher like look at he's he's angry with that CH he's like H ha he makes a mean face when he's popping him with it Larry Holmes was a bad dude and he fought smart too I mean he respected Ali and just like systematically beat him down and it was hard to watch cuz Ali was way past his prime way pass his Prim such a bummer man it was a a huge bummer to watch because we were absolutely sure that Ali was getting up y there was no going yeah there was no denying it towards you know the remaining rounds of the fight I forget how long it went you know the best body in boxing of all time

64:12you ready for this a Vander Holyfield oh yeah it's a good argument Jack son yeah he's about his jacked as you get what the he was one of the first guys to like legitimately put on muscle and move up to the heavyweight division too remember when he was a Cruiserweight Champion remember when he fought Dwight kawi Evander Holyfield at Cruiserweight fought Dwight Muhammad kawi who was 57 the Camden buzs saww 575 PBS buz saw what a great name yeah dude that dude was an animal he was built so weird and he went up to heavyweight after that and he a lot of guys up 5 yes Dwight kawe I'm pretty sure he's 5'7 I'm not I'm I don't I don't believe I'm exaggerating that I think he was literally an inch shorter than me and he was fighting as a light heavyweight and a heavyweight and Cru Cruiserweight is really where he started 195 but he was a tank he was like this jacked up

65:10looking hamar Paul har looking dude look like odd job yeah but but you know I don't know if it was supplements back then I think 5'6 he was 56 I was wrong that is a short 190 but watch him fight man it was just so weird because he was a d ous big powerful guy look at Evander Holyfield then that's the lean Evander Holyfield coming out of the Olympics that's that M yelling at him yeah it's a different avander this was skinny young avander but look at kawi man just just this tank of a dude short and throws these looping overhand shots and you're always punching down on him look at the size difference man and just hard as Nails a hard as nails dude going bald just like give a he's like I'm not here for to sling dick I'm here to slang some leather look at his socks look at those socks those some 1990 sweat sock son God damn they were killing it back then kawi had a totally

66:10different approach because he was so short for that division when you you watched him fight it was like confusing it's like I never seen this before like Holyfield was be like two feet taller than him at points because kawi also fought crouched so he'd move in tight guard crouched Tyson Style no he had his own thing man a lot of bobbing and weaving he didn't have the same sort of combination ruthless punching style that Tyson did Tyson could just you up with one shot and he knew it kawi was like a Mauler he would Maul you like that right there but he's fighting guys way bigger than him you know Tyson was probably like 5'11 right wasn't he somewhere around there I thought still short maybe still short but a different oh hfield Ed and drops him holy fi I mean this best of all time remember his fight with Bert Cooper another one no I don't oh my goodness chaos Bert Cooper like on the

67:06verge of super stardom and him and Holyfield go to wizar wizar son avander Holyfield I mean just he was awesome the best go to Holyfield versus Bert Cooper dropping some boxing knowledge on you I knew about MMA yeah I was a Hu Eddie Bravo and I both man we were huge boxing fans are you guys still are you still I love it I can't oh he stopped him look at that he stopped him godam like you too we've been talking about boxing for an hour holy field holy field man in his prime damn I dropped Bo oh that was the second second time they fought Jamie that's the second time that was when kawi was older see if you can find the first one the first one that was the Revenge fight because in the first fight they went to war and uh kawi and Holyfield went to war but kawi W up losing the decision and it was like a big fight for Vander so that was the second one what is this I thought it

68:04said I clicked too quick it's him fighting uh George Foreman George Foreman versus kawi how ridiculous is that so George Foreman fought Ka kawi was 5'6 George Foreman's hands were a foot wide that's ridiculous he fought he fought at 50 didn't he oh yeah for he won the title at 46 you know they say former hardest hitter of all time I believe remember that Michael George Foreman fight yeah this the first with one punch this was when kawi was younger and this was a really close fight this is a different fight the second fight of Vander was just on a totally different level and kawi was older but Ka used to wear his his waist his pants rather his his belt way the up high the straps of his shorts were like way above his belly button he looks like the blue guy or the green guy from Monsters Inc yeah there just body then there's not a lot to hit there no a little fire hydrant

69:00but this is like Holyfield's first big test but see if you can go to uh that other fight that we were talking about look how lean Holyfield is man there he's so skinny what was the other fight Bert Cooper go Holyfield Bert Cooper Holyfield Berke Cooper was crazy war and this is like 1991 I think and Bert Cooper was a bad dude smoking B yeah go go deep into the fight here young Jamie what kind of oh okay getting a little more rocked up here son ber Cooper was a Savage man he knocked out too he's a vicious power puncher and this was like a sort of a make or break fight for him oh because a lot of people thought that bur C like Burke Cooper could crack and a lot of people thought that Berke Cooper had a shot at being like one of the top guys and this this was the fight that separated these two guys just an awesome fight man you fight you see aanders crib Atlanta it's not really

69:56a house it's more like a I would say like a campus like a college almost like a straight up giant University from the 1800 he has like USC or some in Atlanta yeah he had like aund room Mansion what is what are you doing balls out what are you doing he went balls out that's how um uh um Ron White described Larry the Cable gu place that's what it was he said Larry the Cable gu house looks like a university really and he was like not f University Fox house what did I say Larry cablear fo yeah I'm sure both of those guys live in giant mansions Larry the Cable Guy's a funny dude man is he yeah he's a nice guy too man I used to hang with that guy in the Montreal Comedy Festival before anybody knew who he was and he was funny back then oh yeah he was a good dude man he was doing that Larry the Cable Guy thing on a radio show in um Florida it was like a character that he did and then

70:52cuz he'd have his regular stamp and that was just a part a bit that he would do he would do like I think it's I'm not exactly sure the origins of it but I think he started out doing radio and then from Radio he started taking it to the stage but his real name there's V videos of him as Dan Whitney doing standup damn yeah I didn't realize how big he was I think I wasn't making fun of him but I was like is that guy still alive I think we're on this show and you're like what boom Nebraska sold out Arenas Arenas and Josh Wolf took a picture of himself opening up for Larry the Cable Guy in a football arena that was sold out God in the South dude shut your mouth shutou you got to think man NASCAR and redneck jok this what you got to think there are 3 and who knows how many millions in this country and you go down south Larry the Cable Guy can get millions of people

71:46to see him he might be able to do a million person show how the not this guy's the limit if you had a million seat Arena he's selling it out Larry cable guy might sell out a million seat Arena that's not a that's not what is that about can you explain that he's a funny dude but he also represents them he's like a very good joke writer he's a funny guy well he also represents them like he's doing like redneck sort of humor that's their demographic voice and it's really well written it's funny you know he's and he's a good dude he's a genuinely good dude and and him and uh Jeff Jeff Fox Jeff Foxworthy was like the captain of that ship and then those other guys and Ron White and he brought Ron White in apparently um and Ron White was you know doing well I mean everybody knew who he was I knew who he was everybody knew like he was a a well-respected headliner in clubs but people didn't

72:38really know how funny he was until Jeff Foxworthy put him in front of everybody he's a great guy too man is there is there a super dirty southern guy Ron White's Pretty Dirty oh really Ron White has his whole bit about um how when he was uh in the Navy St in uh Hawaii he kept he was getting his dick sucked by hookers and he didn't know they were girls they were boys he thought that they were girls the whole time till like years later he was watching some show about during the 1970s when he was there all these transvestite hookers that were operating in this one block that he used to go like every day to get my dick sucked he's like I got my dick sucked by about 150 dudes he's he's talking about it last week on the podcast if you haven't heard the Ron White podcast listen to that he's a genius he's a brilliant Storyteller from stand up his stand up that such a good dude so he's he's the

73:35um the blue country guy yeah he's the dirty country guy for sure but there's a bunch of those guys you know what man it's just I think uh with when it comes to like uh what we think of as country like what we think of as the South you know I think people who live in cities are very prejudiced of it I don't think it's the same thing today as it was 20 years ago I inter there's no everybody knows things now man everybody understands things way better now than they ever did before like if you lived in like uh West Virginia in the 1970s you probably if you lived in a real rural coal mining Community or something like that like man good luck getting any sort of access to any information other than what's right in front of you in your town but now now you got a phone and anybody tells you something you could just check your phone and go well that's not really true you know I just

74:23Googled it and Steven Hawkin says that this is and you these kids they can be way more informed today than they were back then so I think when people think of the rural South is being like I think that was a part a problem with this last election I think a lot of people thought like that there's certain people that live in certain places that are just stupid you know the the red States and these people are ignorant let's say and they proved it with the election like you the problem with even saying that is people don't like when certain people like talk about them they don't like it right it makes them feel bad if you make fun of people who live in West Virginia like I just did people in West Virginia get pissed off right they they're it's not the they're not the same people anymore like the our ideas of these like spots of the country where they don't have information we got

75:14to let go of that idea like they they're definitely like leaning more right in some places than left and that makes sense but there's still a ton of people that get it in these places that didn't exist just 20 years ago well yeah because especially to your point because of the smartphones like everyone thinks they're like oh heck yeah like what's going on out there but they're it's easy like you said to even bring it Google or whatever any any news like me my dad and I my dad's in town we're an argument and he's arguing some point and I was L like oh cool just went on my phone I was like nope wrong there you go end of end of discussion so I don't know what you want to do like well people just have these ideas in their head and they've had them for a long time and uh you know if you live in a rural community and you don't have the internet you could just stick with those

76:02ideas and those ideas will be transferred onto your kids and transferred onto their kids and it's you're you're if you live in a tough spot like that if you live in a bad place filled with dumb people and there's no new stuff coming in you got to get the out and you don't even know how you're going to get out or or if you're if you just don't have access like North Korea they just have no clue what's going you see what they were making them do for North Korea with Kim JN o was making them do on Christmas no he makes people worship the mother of the Revolution the his grandmother who was the wife of the first dictator of North Korea who she died of mysterious causes in like 1949 and so like he is so anti- Christmas this guy he literally is like he's like a character in a Dr SE movie he's so anti- Christmas he's like the Grinch so they have to celebrate his dead they

76:52have to celebrate his grandmother like the mother of the Revolution you know that the Fool's crazy the US made 18 Korean cities disappear during that war look at that and that's why he I mean 18 cities disappeared what do you mean in the war in the Korean war between fire bombed 18 cities in the North Korea yes and then the whole that's when the regime started well the Korean War um when did that end uh s sometime in the 50s it was a weird war right like people don't really talk about that one too much yeah they don't talk about but they did uh it I was watching a documentary about how doctors uh they're allowed to go into um North Korea and fix people's eyes they give him like a month and these doctors from China they come in and they do the cataract surgery and his assistant snuck in she was a journalist she posed as an assistant just to get in just to get some footage of on the

77:53inside so it was about you know it is weird in North Korea it's weird as and that guy is crazy as but at the top of that documentary that was not pro North Korea it was it was anti-north Korea but at the very top of it when she's breaking down with the documentaries about she she she mentioned how 18 cities evaporated in the war that's War son like wait exactly no wonder there's so much hate for the D us but not but that's not what their issue is their issue is their dict is ruthless and is dominating them with fear but he bases it on that but that doesn't make any sense he's doing it against his own people what he's doing is imprisoning his entire country I agree with that agree fire bombing 18 cities is disgusting but yeah think about that just as bad he does have like it's almost like you could understand he was an abused child you know what I mean 18 c can you

78:48imagine if there was a country out there if there was a country out there that firebombed 18 of our major I how would we feel about that country you would be You' be lynched if you said anything Pro that country it would be that kind of country you dead you better that's like Holocaust type you bring up that you'd be dead you keep that to yourself well that's what you ever talked to someone who uh has who's Armenian who's spoken to an Armenian Genocide denier there's a lot of like that Armenian Genocide is a very rarely discussed Holocaust I mean not not the Holocaust but you know in terms of the use the word to describe an atrocity it was a terrible thing and there's deniers of that and when you find an Armenian and you talk to him about people that deny the Armenian Genocide like remember Manny um guran he won a fight and I was interviewing him after the fight and he

79:43was dedicating to F the fight to the Armenian Genocide to the victims of the Armenian Genocide okay and uh I remember thinking wow like when was the last time you even heard about that nobody ever talks about that never never it never gets discussed I think over a million people died and I'm pretty sure La has the biggest um Armenian pop population right pretty sure hell yeah you go to Glendale yeah wow okay the United States dropped 635 tons of bombs in Korea not counting 32557 tons of Napal compared to 503 tons in the entire Pacific Theater in World War II at at least 50% of 18 out of the North's 22 major cities were obliterated holy holy right was I right yeah you're 100% right I mean this is the internet are we in the library did you get that from library.com listen um that is terrifying look at the images up there napom bomb so you kind of look at that Kim Jong will or whatever the

80:50his name is is crazy as for sure but he kind you kind of understand when someone's really crazy and they've been abused and tortured as a child you you kind of like you have empathy for I understand what you're saying but um I I guess the argument would be that if they didn't do it like what was the war over the war was over communism right so the what happened at the end of the war was that the two different countries they became North and South Korea I don't know I don't know the details of when was I know it's probably up the reason figh when North Korea was uh founded cuz this was this is like the Takeover 18 different cities destroyed out of how many these they say 22 22 when was uh uh South Korea and when was North Korea formed and when when did it become like North and South Korea knows in the 50s sometimes so before that it was just all Korea I'm not sure I I

81:46don't know that much about know this all I know is we firebombed 18 of their cities man that's that's some devastating you and we talk about all these different uh yeah well I think again back then man you you never okay North Korea's uh history 1945 the partition of Korea at the end of World War II interesting the creation of the Communist aligned Democratic People's Republic of Korea okay Kim ilsong in 1950 the Korean war broke out so they broke off in 1945 and wanted to be communist five years later we were going to war with them man I don't know the history of it I'd be talking if I said I I had an opinion on it but it sounds I'm pretty sure I'm I'm guessing that we we shouldn't have been up in their mess that's what I'm guess unless we were worried that he was going to become another Hitler and that it was going to become uh just some a further extension

82:50of World War II was going to move on K the history of World War II that is like we don't really know the history of World War II there's a mainstream history and then there's the real you know well you know the World War I to both of them were just like World War I is very bizarre man when you go back and listen to Dan Carlin talk about World War I and you realize how recent that was where most of these guys were walking everywhere walking everywhere with guns you're like what like yeah that's what they did they walked they walked with guns they they walked across countries Braveheart with guns it is ridiculous you realize like that was 100 years ago you go holy like what has happened and now instead of we're just you know 50 years after that less less than 50 years after that they're naling entire cities wiping out whole cities like the the ability that where it used

83:40to be you had like cannons and you had to move and push them closer and closer to people the difference between that and being able to drop out of planes on people's heads drones now now like Isis they get out of a car and just intercontinental ballistic missile missiles that are pointed at Russia and Russia's got them pointed at us and we just go yeah yeah it's we like the hat fields in the mcoys just staring at the barrel Mor than Sam more than Ralph Mor than Ralph like the sheep dog and the coyotes yeah yeah old school reference morning Ralph morning Ralph they would punch in they'd beat the the sheep dog beat the out of the coyote all day long at the end they would punch out and leave dude that rooster on there what was the a rooster is racist as if oh yeah I I said come here boy fogor fogor Leghorn was racist was he racist yeah if you listen I say I I said come

84:32here boy and he kept doing that but he was talking to chickens no he he would say some racist he was talking to chickens though bro but the way he wasn't even talking to people racist racist doesn't count with animals it doesn't we're all racist we prefer squirrels over rats you see a rat I like a nice rat you see squirrel you don't mind your kid playing on the grass with a squirrel on a tree near it h see I like a rat yeah but if you saw a squirrel all right if your kid was in the in the grass having a good time playing around with the ball and then like a 100 yards away there was a tree with a squirrel on it kind of squirr give a any kind of squirrel that big bushy tail yeah cute little fell yeah I like thoseo got a nut yeah there's no problems there's no problems right if he was like 50 feet from your kid would you freak out I wouldn't be comfortable no I wouldn't do anything

85:19you wouldn't care just a squirrel squirrel don't do anything to babies but if that was a rat 50 feet from your kid You' freak the out right yeah well because rats are so dirty R because you're racist what if that rat was clean what if that rat was trying to better the rat Community what that what if that rat was a leader what if that rat was the one rat trying to elevate the other rats yo we don't need to be eating garbage and cannibalizing each other we need to be better we need to build homes we need to establish communities we need to teach people about rat traps I like I like rats yeah what if we're supposed to what if we're supposed to survive on on rats and roaches but if we did that would the the economy up well you know all these that want to kill coyotes man if there wasn't for coyotes we'd have roaches and or rats at least everywhere rats rats yeah

86:06they do that's like the main diet their main diet is like rats and rabbits and release a bunch of coyotes to New York man go wild they're already there coyotes are coyotes not like the city though we need in like the they're in the city dude coyotes are in every city in the country I just got done reading this book on them coyote America damn you read a book on coyotes crazy book Man by a guest that's coming on soon coyote turned up in Middle Village Queens in April 27 was generally received as a freakish incident but it wasn't even the first sighting of 2015 there's many coyotes that live in m in um uh Central Park there's coyotes that live in Queens yeah they live all over Manhattan well they're going where the food's at right they go everywhere they're all over the country they're a small wolf that lives in every single City every single State all over the

86:55country and do we kill we really don't kill them we we try to kill them they the biggest Mass effort to eradicated species ever was on coyotes and wolves first first wolves which was successful then coyotes not only does it not work it has the opposite effect when you hear coyote screaming they're they're doing will call they're just like who's here who's here yeah they're they're trying to find out uh who's in attendance right after the attendance call is over if one's missing or two's missing so they think someone's dead or gone the female has more babies so the female will go from having four puppies to having 10 or 15 and then they also stretch their range out they're different than wolves in that wolves have to operate in packs coyotes can operate as a singular or impacts now what was that okay roll call and then home someone's really attendance and then what happens the

87:46mama starts making more babies if they're missing so if someone's missing say if they have a pack the pack is like eight coyotes but one coyote gets jacked by a mountain L they yell out and when they find out that that Coyote's missing the females say we need to make more babies and it like to keep their species alive they produce more offspring so they'll go from having four pups no no no their pups are larger groups so from four pups to having like 10 to 13 so like the body produces more babies damn yeah it's so they're smarter than the Wolves oh yeah dude they're just smaller they're they're ridiculously smart they they're sneaky and they're smart enough to know to not attack humans yeah we leave them alone if we don't attack them you don't you don't hear a lot of coyote attacks on dogs and that's the only reason they're around is cuz they don't attack they

88:35just happen not be be scared if they weren't scared of humans and attack they'd be gone this professor that uh I've got coming on the floor the podcast Dan Flores who uh wrote that book coyote America what he said is that coyotes when like the the like couple hundred years ago like they were only in the west coast and as people pushed them away they started establishing new territories like us making cities and going after them made them spread out across the whole country Jesus like and it's there's people that don't understand this like he got approached by this one because people know he's a coyote expert he got approached by these people that were uh doing this coyote uh Rescue Mission like we're here to save the coyotes like the coyotes doing great like you're here to save it like save it from what they're everywhere like they literally have populated quietly and

89:27sneakily the entire country and the efforts all efforts to eradicate them failed when they when they have see when they have male wolves they can cyanide like a horse they take a horse and they'll shoot a male wolf and then they take his balls and his dick and they rub his scent and his glands all over this this animal so that the other wolves recognize that he's been there so they think it's safe to eat so they start eating this horse that's been cyanid it and then they would all die and so they would pop they would they would attack these packs of wolves that way they would shoot the male they would take his scent put on his meat take a horse shoot the horse inject him with cyanide immediately so it went through his entire nervous system or entire circulation system and so all the meat would be poisoned and they did that and they eradicated wolves throughout the

90:15entire West Coast until they brought them back into Yellowstone in the 1990s they were like virtually gone big ass animal too I was reading an article that they they're thinking about building a bridge over the 405 and I didn't know this there's Mountain lines oh yeah like in toena Canyon but someone hit one in a car because they're trying to cross over trying to cross the 405 well they a problem and they want to build a little ramp they're in almost a land um they're in like a land Island like around the Malibu area yeah that's what they're trying to do just to keep the big monsters alive right yo one of them killed 11 alpacas in a goat in m IU just a couple of weeks ago they put a depredation order on it they were going to kill it but this lady who owned the farm got so much hate mail after they said they were going to kill the mountain line that she

91:03changed her mind she why you kill it cuz Mountain line doing Mountain line cuz she has a farm up there that's her living it's making these alpacas and this thing jacked 11 of them what you sign up for lady in a way right but if it's killing your food and killing your your your living that's why you make a living is by selling alpacas or doing I don't know what the is an alpaka it's like a who the hustling who's hustling llamas in think you do with them F rent them to rich kids birthday parties the do you do with a llama in Malibu llamas just sweating their asses off there was a dude who owned the ComEd connection that had llamas he had llamas living in his yard alpaka it's a species don't they spit too they spit like a at you it's a species of South American camelid it's a camel it resembles a small llama in appearance there are two breeds of alpaka wow so anyway this Lion in one

91:55day jacked jacked 11 of these things and just left them there damn they're big oh didn't eat it just he just had a good old time killing them yeah you got to get rid of that one yeah is there a problem with wolves and Hunters do they attack hunters or do they they certainly would I had a friend who was cornered by Wolves they tried to take his elk and he W up they W up killing I think two or three wolves I think they killed three three wolves I would have to listen to the story again he had one friend with a rifle and him with bow he killed two of them with a bow and the guy with him killed one of them with a rifle and they were surrounding them and they were trying to get the elk away from him they had shot an El they up they didn't know that they were like in the wolves den it was like that the gray movie like they shot this elk like right near the wolves den and the wolves

92:41like yeah we'll take that dude some natural yeah and they surrounded these dudes and uh started rushing them like really it's a crazy and the other ones took off they were like this the gun I think probably scared they're like oh these have guns and they did their their call they did their attendance call and they were surrounding them but they were the Wolves must have realized oh they killed two of us like there's two that are gone and then they killed a third and they like that's it damn and he said he was he had the alpha male in his sights and he had his bow drawn back and the Wolf took off running and when the wolf took off running the rest of the pack went too they were like this they're lucky they had a gun and not just those bow and arrows so lucky pack of so lucky not only that lucky it's not just one dude with a bow and arrow like if you didn't have that guy fun with him

93:27would have been you know what's strange is killer whales have no problem killing other dolphins and other whales they go after them and hunt them yeah how come they don't go after humans like that oh they have have they there's videos but only in SeaWorld forget about SeaWorld the in the wild I've never heard of that yeah I grabbed a lady and said see you Z really no no no no I think you're thinking of a story that happened in SeaWorld no no I'm positive this is in the ocean he grabs the Lady or the guy by the leg and just takes off kills him takes off but what how often how many reports are there of killer whales attacking humans I mean is there does that happen they go after dolphins in other whales like it ain't they have fun with it they kill great whites too yeah they have no fun they have fun with it they go after other mammals so why wouldn't

94:17the oh no humans are they that smart to know dophins too are they like coyotes are they like coyotes like you know what if we with humans they're going to come after us do are they smart enough to know not to with us or are they being is it like a spiritual thing what is it there's a bogus story that I read online that I repeated on the podcast before I looked it up but the B the bogus story that I'm pretty sure Adam Cora told me or some I I don't remember where I got it from but the bogus story was that before I don't think Adam croll believes this by the way before World War II they used to attack us but then once uh they used to uh target practice with them from Planes killer whale stopped attacking us turned out it's not be a true story at all but that's a killer story what a great story it' be if it was true sounds like they used to with us and they were like oh check this

95:08out they like yeah all right um I'll we'll help you guys you fall in the water we pull you out just please stop stop that yeah we could work together yeah killer whales are gnarly man yeah what's up with that the gnarliest or maybe see if you if you found any maybe there's a big cover up maybe they kill humans all the time I think it's a guy in a in a in a pond or in a tank it's the exception like obviously don't hunt people but grab this lady by the ankle was like yoink I don't know about that man I never heard that I'd like to see did you see that at the library where do you get your new where do you get your animal news from from bro hey bro K sent me that is there a YouTube video about it yes or no yeah killer I found one fake one I see one from uh uh SeaWorld there's one where a a Japanese whaling crew is eaten alive by killer whales is that F that's

96:00fake it's not a video it just says like a it's a story which also be was story Japanese crew was eaten alive by killer whales that's one of those fake news stories you hear that fake news thing about uh Pakistan was like they literally were like ready to go to war with uh what was the I tweeted it earlier today someone believ some fake news story I'm not believing this story there's other news things on there like so it's a fake news story lost 200 pounds by jacking off 14 no no was that CNN it's from the same side no this is not from CNN but the one that I tweeted earlier today I saw that that was a fake news story I'll pull that up right now right that was about but it was on CNN about a fake news story right and then they bought into it about to someone bought into it but the story about the war the potential for war wasn't fake was it the Pakistan Minister issues just

96:50popped up warning to Israel after being tricked by fake news right but that's what I was talking about so that's real right that's not fake news the ultimate trolling that's not dude when they're talking about fake news site that's the fake this is the fake okay well either way either way whoever whoever wrote fake look at that quote that they put well first of all shitty being tricked by fake news site they keep putting that out there cuz they're going to censor real and it's going to be government state run they're going China style they already do it in China anything you want in China you go to China anybody can go to China but guess what you can't watch Regular YouTube why don't they have a space between Pakistan's and defense minister this is CNN how about you put a goddamn space in between your words shitty lazy editors is early man what is it Jamie this is the

97:42telegraph.co.uk oh okay this one is so what's the CNN one I don't know there was a CNN one that I tweeted this is not exactly what I tweeted but either way it's the whole thing is very bizarre so homeboy got trolled it was about to say War we'll take you to war here it is right here yeah there's a CNN article dup by fake news story Pakistani Min Minister threatens nuclear war with Israel what they're trying to do is put out uh uh scare people uh with fake news sites so that they could go in there and have a reason of sensor and everyone's going to go yeah fake news sites let's censor okay don't get emotional let's just commun anytime you see something like that in quotes that go fake newsight tricked by fake new sight people going to go people are going to go yes F fake you don't see that it's Honey dick Honey dick in your face right there well here's the

98:36thing who's making these fake news sites and wouldn't it be in the best interest of the government to make fake news sites of their own so they can have a reason to not have fake news sites around they're fake so fake you think they could but do you think they could literally stop people from putting stuff out on the internet I mean if that's the ultimate goal no what they're doing is they're going to censor the top alternative Media news sites they're going after them that's the target this is a big trick CNN no no he's saying like like breit B yeah like drudge Info Wars they're putting out the real but they got control the media so they're saying oh that's fake news so they're creating a fake news problem that isn't there so that they can go in and censor the real it's a trick if you see it on CNN I called it every headline being tricked by fake news they're getting everyone going yeah

99:31fake News Sucks that you know then they're going yeah it does right look here's another fake news site and people are being tricked and doing all this crazy and walking into pizza places with machine guns yeah let's startop fake news what do we got to do let's just sign it boom they're gonna D they're going China style they're GNA they're going to censor the internet they're going if you're on a they're going to Blacklist you if you're on a new site that's credible and you're with the agenda boom they're going to go hey that's fake dude you're off that's what they're we're in the middle of that right now we're being assaulted with people being tricked by fake news when have you been tricked by fake news they're not tricking us fake news is tricking you settle down anybody can be tricked by fake news for sure they can be and if the the question is who's actually doing it is the

100:15government doing it so they can crack down on alternative news sites that are saying like Wikileaks or anybody that's putting out stuff that doesn't agree with their agenda or is there a real issue there's a real issue and that that's what I say I say I say there's both correct I say the government for sure would benefit from there being less sources of news and more that they can control and being able to put the wraps on someone like Edward Snowden and not allow that to happen for sure they would definitely benefit from that but there's also a bunch of people writing some fake articles and they do it for profit they do it for clicks there's there was one dude doing he was they de interviewed him and he was doing some don't wow Eddie please just be be rational when you're talking about stuff we're not disagreeing with you saying we're saying it's all the above

100:59like when when I'm saying that people get paid to write fake news I'm saying they get money from ad clicks they can make 101 13,000 a month they interviewed this dude who did it and he started getting out of control with it he did it to troll Republican people and then he realized how much AdSense he can make from doing that he's making a a sizable chunk of money so there's those guys but then there's also for sure there would be government agencies that would almost be it would be their responsibility to control information like if you wanted to control information one of the best ways to do it would be put out disinformation Cloud the story that's subterfuge that's been going on in the CIA and the NSA and this been going on in all these like secretive intelligence Community groups they do that forever they if you if you pay attention to what we absolutely know

101:48about how they engage with the Enemy they use every tactic they don't not use de ception they don't not use propaganda the the 450 million plus they spent on those fake terrorist videos yeah to but they also had in their mind uh a legitimate reason for doing no that's what they say come on you're right you're right it could be but Eddie but it could be both see their their legitimate reason is they have a real player this is how you watch those videos it's in a real player when you click into a real player it it checks your IP it knows your IP so it can figure out where you're coming from so if they could pocket if could Target pockets of people in certain terrorist Rich parts of the world where they knew that there was a bunch of uh Isis people or what have you if they put out some recruitment video and they can find that there's a lot of people that are

102:34watching it in certain areas they can sort of in their way mind triangulate where these terrorists could be located idea it's the same I was reading how it's both Eddie it's both no it it that's the cover story right but but it is B Isis does exist there are bad people in the world there there are terrorists in the world Kim is a real guy he is he is a dictator over his entire country there's a bunch of people in Isis that have billions of dollars where are they getting this money from is what I'm talking about of course they exist of course isis's a lot they're being funded by a lot of and when you see who they're being funded by you're like you ain't going to fall for that cover story that's all that I I don't think you're right I think it's both okay that's what I think I think everybody's going after it I don't think they're they're trying to stop Isis man there's

103:22nobody trying trying to stop Isis they're encouraging it they're not they love it they need it they need fear I don't know if that's the case what does it say in case you didn't know the United States funds and arms terrorist groups like al- Qaeda and Isis when it needs them to disrupt a country this is Dr Jill Stein who is running for president and she said this the day of Christmas she doesn't give a that is ruthless ruthless know she's woke as she's woke that's what I'm talking about Jill when you know this when you know this and it makes sense you could follow the money like okay it totally makes sense a criminal is oh yeah it makes sense criminals do this kind of you should always always be suspect of the people running the show they're criminals so you never you never go oh you know if someone tells you uh uh someone's obsessed with like let's

104:05say you know some famous killer I don't know uh like John Gotti or whatever some criminal or whoever and he's obsessed with them and he knows a lot of about this murder that murder this racket that racket this is this criminal activity uh when if if he told you yeah you you know what other murder he was involved in and you talk about it no dude's goingon to say ah now how do you know that's true how do you know that's true where's the evidence of that you're probably going to go you take his word for it this guy's this guy's a criminal he's up all this other and then he tells you about some new he up you're probably like a like a normal guy would go yeah even if he's wrong I mean he's still a criminal but probably I haven't looked into it but it's like that when when you when you could follow the money so easily and you just see The Rock and you're just like

104:54oh man anytime CNN is attacking fake news they're creating a fake news problem follow what you're were saying there until I didn't follow what you were saying there until you got to you're talking about you're talking about uh the uh the government's reason for for paying a UK publicity firm 500 what was it million million dollars to make fake Isis and ALC videos to me was it $500,000 or 500 million that's 450 million to me I don't want to be wrong about that big wrong say 500,000 I think it's 500 million I thought it's 450 million so when you see when you see that let's say you just saw that quote and you believed it let's say she's right okay just pretend she's right who she whatever that that chick that oh Jill Stein what she's talking about Eddie is also funding the mujahadin which we were pretty open about when they were that is that's what became the

105:47the Islamic terrorist of today they the Russians let me finish real quick when you see a statement like that right and there's many people saying that but there's a man there's one just just say that's true what she just said and then you find out that the government paid $500 million to make fake Isis videos they're funding them and then they're making fake Isis videos sounds like they want to blow that up you know so when you see the cover story when the government says the criminal says the criminal says uh what we were doing is uh we were making CDs and we were like dispersing them and then so that people would get get them and then they would play him and we know you know we we did only a terrorist would play that CD so then we could track their IP address to me that's like some serious horse no but we we do it the same with like in the drug industry if they catch a drug

106:37dealer they they flip him or use him for something to get to the bigger play there which is the drug kingpin right so same thing with this they might they might fund those ridiculous videos it's like you sound like the attorney for the criminal but no Eddie the problem is you think there's only one way to this I think there's a like a a a lack of nuance in the the the idea of this I think it's both mhm I think for sure the government is going to make some fake I mean they they told us they were going to do it to fight the war on crime or to fight the war on terror they told us they were going to do that they told us they were going to do it they do it in plain sight they're not CU people just go along with for sure 100% but also there's also people that are in charge of making sure it's not like everybody who is in the CIA or the FBI or any of these organizations

107:23is like a part of some gigantic no one said that when did I say that okay I never said that but the idea but the idea that all the rest of them would know that it's and they would go along with it I don't think that's the case I think what they're trying to do is figure out ways where they could locate terrorists if they figured out a way they could located a terrorists and it's through IP checking of people who watch terrorist recruitment videos I don't think that's a bad idea it might not get everybody and it might not even work but it's not a bad idea they're doing a decent job have you seen now just switch sub a little bit but have se but hold on a second don't don't you think that there's a there there's got to be some way if there are legitimate terrorists in the world and you're trying to find them there got to be some way to find them that's a good way to

108:02find them by IP addresses if they're clicking on those videos they're funding them how why would they try to find them they Eddie is it the same people that's my point is it the same people that are but that that's one person Eddie is it the same people that are in charge of making these videos to try to find these people are they the same people that are also completely aware that they're funding them or is there a bunch of different factions all working together and each one of them doesn't completely be honest with the other yeah I could see that definitely most of the CIA most of the FBI good honest hardworking people it's just people key people in certain spots they're I mean they're funding Isis that's just one quote there's many many quotes but let's just say that was true that quote that what that chick said that's true okay we're funding them chick presidential

108:55candidate Jill Stein yeah this is she's not the first one to say that but anyways right okay let's just say what she that statement is true if it's true that tweet that on Christmas if it's true if they're funding Isis yes there's probably low-level people saying hey how are we going to stop Isis but the overall agenda is not to stop it the overall if they're funding it why are they going to stop it they want to blow it up they're funding it you you put two and two together they're first of all they're criminals at the top we know that everybody knows everybody know that so we we we got to treat them like a detective would like your average ass detective would go this criminal he no one would ever no detective would ever look at a criminal go ah there's no way he would do that ah he doesn't have the time to do he is not that smart he doesn't have the smarts to

109:45he's so unorganized this guy wouldn't this guy and he no detective would say that be like you know what you're a Criminal look maybe you are innocent maybe you are but godamn look at the money Trail look at all this circumstantial evidence it's just damn you know look at it and then the hardcore evidence documents and if you ask Isis they're not going to tell you they're winning like they're getting up man who knows what they're saying they're funding them and they have control of the media who knows what the is going on who really knows nobody knows what the going on you see how uh Isis used to use Twitter and certain things so they they would get you know followers to see stuff and organize plans well Twitter has a someone who's just 24/7 Merks those accounts where you can't have them anymore now they use Telegraph you know what that is no where they can

110:33send a it's a you can organize a private chat room so you can whatever they have a code word so all those Isis followers go there and then they had they logged in and they some somehow some guy got into it because you have to prove everyone in these secret chat rooms and it says what they want to do and they'll say uh just crazy example in Milwaukee how many guys do they say how many guys do we have and there's seven but we have these guns these guns we're going to hit up this oh I scouted I did this so they're going to the guy who owns Telegraph going what the man stop these accounts and he's like you know I I created it so everyone can use it man it's high level security I create for that and they're this dude's just getting reamed for it does he not have the ability to in he does have the ability he's in Russia but what happens is these accounts go up and then

111:19after you're done there they they're race forever W that's why people use them wow interesting Israel hackers have said this it's a crazy time dude it's a crazy time cuz you and then his point he goes I didn't create a telegram for Isis but just like anything when we create something good it's bad people follow I can't control Jamie what was that guy that you kept telling me about was it Gary Vanner chuk is that the guy yeah I saw an interview with him man and he was talking about people um using phones and this lady goes isn't it terrible what we're doing to these young people using phones and he's like look this is you're looking at human evolution we're not doing anything to these people this is like this is what people are doing and you know just step back and look at what's happening and he was saying that because we're just going to be looking in the future back at this

112:05time like this is the good old days before virtual reality for sure it seems to me that all these things are competing together that taking o taking over various aspects of the world controlling global resources like oil and things along those lines and they have windmills now they're the size of 747s have you seen these gigantic windmills that they're putting together trying to figure out how to dominate the production of electricity and oil and gas and keep money flowing and all the while we're getting drawn deeper and deeper into this electronic world like we've got some weird going on in our future folks weird Matrix style did you see in Dubai they're already they're building it now that with those tubes so you get from Dubai to wherever in like 30 minutes oh those hyper Loops that uh Elon Musk is the one who came up with it but uh in Dubai they're the first ones to actually

112:52fund it and raise the money and they're building it now o that's scary that's a plane on the ground right now son jump in a tube and just imagine the feeling of going 500 Miles hour is this it hyperloop 500 mph hyperloop train that's not that fast it takes you from Abu Dhabi to Dubai in 12 minutes 12 minutes son that's amazing they're they're saying if they do it right in America you're going to be able to live in LA work in New York every day oh my God all that imagine that tu's jumping in that tube you're gonna be in that tube for what at least 500 miles an hour it's gonna five hours no no that's start that's just started straight tube up Elon Musk was saying like 1,200 miles an hour is what they're is is what they're planning hour think what like a plane flies I don't think it's any faster than a plane I ain't going no tube underground that's true yeah shoot you in a tube so 500

113:47miles an hour in a plane but yeah man 5 hours this is CRA across the country you're going to be in a t for 5 hours it's it's inevitable they're going to do it wait a minute 1200 mil yeah if it's 12 M 1200 miles an hour that's probably then 2 and a half hours that's still a long time to a unless it's a big comfortable tube when you can walk around this tube maybe it's a how big is this tube smell is it worse to smell people's farts in a tube going 500 mph on the ground or in a tube going 500 mph in the sky the sky the plane how often how often do you just say it I cannot hold these I you let that's so rude how often that is so rude cuz most of the time you hold it in right most of the time and try to time it for the bathroom you do your best you got to do your be a goddamn good have you ever just said it I'm just going to go for it and whatever I'm just going to keep my eyes closed put

114:44your eye shades on and prend you're asleep and just let him go dudes do that to me all the time every now and like oh this this gu decided to just go for it I'm like I don't know it's it could either be this guy or that guy that recycled air just your world up there's got to be like a suction thing in your in the seat so like a little button you press and it sucks yeah Su that blowing on you that does help a lot but it's not good enough oh it's pretty I bet that fan was probably for the farts it had to be for the farts probably why else would you have a fan wherever in a restaurant you have a fan blowing on you that blows get air hard his eyes push farts away they need to fix that problem in PL I bet they did I bet they invented that for the farts and they never talked about it yeah fart fans it's a f f called a fan people got to be for f 100% or you know

115:39what back when people used to smoke on planes that's when they had them remember that they used to smoke on planes and then it got to the point where you could only smoke in the back so they had a smoking section yo I used to fly back then it was crazy you would I would I would be in those sections man cuz I was I would be that's where you could buy tickets like they would say the only tickets that are available the smoking section they would cost less you go into that smoking section just sit down people around you are lighting up oh my God it a tu mean yeah meanwhile you come on the whole plan is smoking section at that point yeah Dice Clay used to have a whole bit about it we're in a Tobe I don't have to go back there everybody's breeding the same area oh he had this whole bit about it man it was hilarious yeah it was a weird time people used to be able to

116:29smoke everywhere in restaurants in bar everywhere you went you would people smoke in movie theaters I love that you can't now I love that you tell you not to smoke in movie theaters people would do it all the time people get mad at them hey man put it out Fu that was one of those laws that was a that's what I mean the government worked holy it worked you that was a good law you know why because people were filing lawsuits a lot of people that worked inside restaurants and bars they were getting cancer they getting lung cancer from secondhand smoke imagine if your job was to be a waitress and you had to go to this bar every day people go oh guess you shouldn't be there well it's a good job why should you be subject to being poisoned at a good job like you have to like it's a crazy it's not like drinking if you're drinking and I'm not drinking I'm right next to you I don't

117:14suffer anything yeah but if you're smoking right next to me especially if you work in a place where everybody's smoking man you're going to die strip club baby I never got into cigarettes you guys ever with cigarettes no but I I've had them before Go on stage before with Tony inchcliff I've taken a few drags he does yeah they fire you up dude it's like a gives you it's a stimulant it's it's a it's very much like a neut Tropic really very very bad for your body for sure but stimulant in in itself like tobacco is a stimulant for sure 100% like if you um if you could chew I think it would probably be the better move like Donald gave me some of his chew when I was here and I was like whoa like this stuff fires you up sort of does it get you kind of like buzzed yeah yeah yeah for sure that's why smoke cigars bro bro bro bro I don't know where that came from I'm trying to

118:02low slow that down trying to cut way back on the Bros but occasionally they sneak through can't deny the broess it's like they ruined bro by call you know calling anybody who's an a bro come on bro he's a bro you know but um yeah man for sure like there's a there's no doubt about it it's it's a definite stimulant like if you smoke a cigar you get a buzz you don't see a lot of smokers these days though they're smart people are smartening up well you hang out with athletes I I hang out with zero athletes sir you hang out with comedians that don't smoke yeah comedians don't smoke these days way less really way less it used to be almost everybody smoke Chris deia doesn't even drink yeah drank or smoke there's a lot of guys who don't drink um but back in the day man most guys smoked like R used to smoke Duncan used to smoke Joe used to smoke red B still smokes no no I never smoked

118:53no was the athlete in you yeah I was well I was healthy I was still working out yeah like all the time I was doing standup in the beginning I was kickboxing then I got into Jiu-Jitsu I did Jiu-Jitsu straight through like I I never didn't exercise yeah you can't smoke cigarettes and do Jiu-Jitsu I mean you can but you're going to get fck you're going to miss a lot it's tough I mean you're you're not just working out you're playing a game of death and if you tap out because you gas out that you got tapped out and that never feels that good that's why Jiu-Jitsu is so uh people get obsessed with it so so much that's why Joe Schilling is a crazy example he's crazy he smokes Joe Schilling is a world class kickboxer and he smokes smoking every all the time whoa pack a day whoa that's amazing did he say he smokes pack a day not in Camp he say he's cutting back

119:39but I think he was up to that yeah yeah not in quit for a little while did it again he needs to get one of them robot dicks suck on one of them robot dicks those uh those start sucking dick those those strawberry clouds yeah do smell nice too smell good I I don't mind if people do those I don't think it gives you the buzz that a cigarette does though I think cigarette gives you a very specific Buzz I think those chemicals and the Thick Smoke there's a there's a if Eddie wants to come back and talk more theories on conspiracies which is always wonderful always ftic he's so mad he gets some work we barely talked about the UFC everybody's so mad right now zero tough zero tough that's what we do that's what we do folks we're all like yeah UFC campaign that be so much fun so much fun we still have time but um they did the FDA approved like 500 plus chemicals and to

120:29put them into cigarettes they all designed to like make you more and more addicted to it yeah but did you know cigarettes have never been less popular in uh my generation they think is going to be the final kind of straw to get rid of smoking cuz now it's just it's more of a healthier kind of vibe now with Millennials and stuff like that so smoking is you're like really no one's doing it I wonder if Chu will carry on they need more of those dudes that get their jaw removed either jaw cancer because we're up here we're in California if we're down south in Georgia or some like that I bet they're chewing left and right Point what if you had like a hidden camera and you put it on The Chew section of a store lot chew bet a lot of lot of sloppy looking call them chewes chew people who chew chewies I don't know you could call you could do you want do yeah you a chewy like have a

121:19club yeah I don't think so you don't think they call chewi I don't think that's going to work no well um we're talking about the smoke business you can chew and like Donald has fantastic cardio and he chews or dips was it a dip or a chew a dip dip dip pretty much the same thing pretty much the same thing but the chew is like remember those old school baseball players look like squirrels they have that like a Lenny dyra yeah you know what's really crazy man that is probably very similar to what it feels like when you're chewing those uh cocoa leaves but the cocoa leaves are illegal like when those guys in Peru they take those cocoa leaves and they put them in the the side of their mouth and they chew on them they chew on them all the time and you get like uh you also get actual uh vitamins from the I get flavonoids I guess godamn look at that guy you need that many yeah that's cat

122:09Jamie that's the wrong stuff um you want a cocoa leaves that that that's got that's a stimulant or like a narcotic rather that cat stuff is very much like not a narcotic it's like meth damn out of a plan mhm yeah it makes it crazy they do a lot of crazy on it but this stuff is uh cocoa leaves they take it and they pack their mouth with it and they chew on it and it has an effect a stimulant effect that's similar to a cup of coffee I've never done it but I have had um a tea that was made out of it it's a mate de cocoa tea were you crunked no but I couldn't shut the up which is always a problem already or awesome yeah depending on what your job is no I wasn't Coke because I wasn't jacked I don't know I've never done Coke that's where Coke comes from right Coke exactly but it's chewing the leaves versus the processed superp it's like the difference between getting your your

122:59sugar from eating an orange versus eating like a couple of tablespoons of like real processed sugar where like your body's like what the is this like where the hell is this coming from body doesn't know what the you do with like a spoon of sugar it's like what why is this alone where's where's all the fiber where's the vitamins this is just what did you do you crazy that's what cocaine is and that's why you can with fruit because the fiber right cuz it breaks down different mhm and that's why I think these people that chew these Coke of leaves they get a totally different experience than someone who does coke I need to try it though I never chewed the leaves would popular in the St should be legal bro it should be 100% legal yeah it's illegal the pro you can't even have those leaves the problem is you could take those leaves you can process it into cocaine

123:46which by the way is an actual ingredient in Coca-Cola still cocaine is still yes they use yes it is they take cocoa leaves they process the coca leaves and they make medical cocaine with it and the same plant that does this the same processing place that does this ships the flavors of it to Coca-Cola so it's one of the main flavors they use like Coca-Cola and Pepsi Cola are two totally different tasting things not even clothes and one of the reasons why they taste different is Coca-Cola used to have cocaine in it and now it's flavored by cocoa leaves Google that coke is so much better than Pepsi Google that look this look at this to this day dude coca extraction says it's got cocaine free leaves are sold to Coca-Cola exactly so they take these cocoa leaves the factory processes them turns them into medical cocaine and the rest of the that's processed without cocaine in

124:39it is shipped to Coca-Cola anding knowledge hey the the medical cocaine for medical reason lidocaine um which is uh one of the things that they use it's like the gay cousin of cocaine they use it for doesn't get you high but it numbs you up damn um yeah it's um where else is this going we drink a lot of Coca-Cola they must be making a lot of medical cocaine man oh yeah they must be making ridiculous amounts of it I wonder how much the actual flavor they get out of the leaves versus actual cocaine it's probably takes a lot of leaves to get cocaine when's the last time you had like a nice ice cold Coca-Cola I don't drink it's terrible for you it's terrible I had a Diet Coke last night though well that's even worse yeah it's even worse that is I very rarely do but I said it it's Christmas dude I did too and I had a regular Coke know it's Christmas out of regular Coke and that

125:31is delicious so good there's a reason why people are addicted barbecue Come On Son I was adct as a kid I I'd wake up in the middle of the night run down to the 24-hour liquor store and get a couple cans of coke and just like down one drink I had to drink whole cans in one drink I was obsessed with sodas man think about how much sugar in those and how much C I love the burn in my throat I'm addicted to that burn I just want the constant burn but it's cold too oo that's nice that's nice does not taste the same does not taste the same out of those fountains you better stop calling that cocaa you know you're a goddamn liar that is not the same formula you get a 100% got to be out of a can or a bottle or a bottle or that Mexican bottle with the cane sugar about that green bottle no the ones that you get at certain um green Coca-Cola on yeah cuz that's how you know the

126:22sugar oh green Green's a different kind you don't know what the you're talking about killer whs are attacking people hey is that was there rub it off on me I'll make it up speaking of Paige VanZant Michelle Waton not to be confused with Michelle Waterman Ron Waterman uh a Coca-Cola life Kane sugar and St that's that is a new one put Stevia oh Stevia is a good move but cane sugar and Stevia they put like a a little little dab of stevia and a bucket of sugar get that poison on my face I love Zia Zia have you ever tried that oh look at that oh yeah yeah we have some here you want some we have I love that stuff yeah they sent me a bunch of it not not even paying me to say it and we drank it on air didn't we I don't know might what is it it's soda flavored with stevia they make like an energy drink it's good Stevia is good man I like it it doesn't with you I I like to put in coffee

127:24doesn't doesn't with your blood sugar levels taste better I agree no it doesn't seem to have any negatives I mean I don't know what it's like if you abuse it but I think if you eat a 100 oranges your body's going to feel like well I'll let you know cuz I abuse the out of it do you yeah according to Dan Quinn though it's uh yeah that guy's on the ball so let's talk about um Dominick Cruz and Cody garbrandt Man Killer Whales uh yeah two hours into the podcast people like in the is this a boxing podcast it's a Coca-Cola P this is what happens when you have a producer or like you know engineer or uh rather executive you look at you look at the money line Cody's not that big of an underdog well Cody's dangerous super dangerous here's the question like has he ever fac anybody that moves the way Dominic does and we've seen with so many guys that they have a really hard

128:12time hitting Dominic he's a really hard time to hit okay so Dominic is a two to one favorite correct you know which is uh I'd say that's well Cody's 175 so the real the real spread is only 35 cents mhm on a dollar a Dollar Bet not not crazy especially how good Dominic is what they're banking on I think you know Cody hasn't mizugaki is his best win that it with which was his last fight so that's what got him this title shot here's something they're Bank on him landing on Dominic here's something people aren't talking about liner and TJ Dillashaw is on the same card that's a crazy fight man liner is scary liner is super scary terrifying look at build on that little monkey he's built like a chimpanzee dude like like a A pounder when I say little monke no way racist ladies and gentlemen I call myself a monkey just want to specify L liner wasn't he 125 yes he was 125 he

129:07would he has he has uh a real talent and he has real power at that scary scary guy him or Cody's the hardest hitters that's a fun fight Cody liner's a different kind of hitter though I think Cody's lightning fast and like beautiful combinations and beautiful footwork the angles that he cut when he knocked out um uh Thomas uh almea Almeida when he knocked out Thomas Almeida like Almeida was undefeated very scary and he cut some serious angles and dropped some bombs on him it's like woo back speed of Entry his uncle was an alternative Olympic boxer his dad was a boxer and they just put this little ball of hate into him he's a ridiculous wrestler too he's his kind of knock out power is a different kind of knockout power than liner liner is almost like a guy that is 20 or 30 pounds bigger than him it's weird like he hits guys and you see them like off like he's hitting you

130:03on the arms with these bombs and he takes a shot extremely well like when he fought uh Francisco um when you you watch the the combination of those two guys unloaded in the first round like Jesus Christ Francisco Rivera is a bad he's a very good Striker and he just decided to go to war with liner and liner was just dropping bombs on him and you go Jesus he can do this even at 135 maybe be even better at 135 I and and I love to watch liner fight I don't think in for right now I don't think he'll be Champion with his with that style of fighting that pull forward going and only boxing watch what H watch what happens when TJ CU it's it's easy to game plan for TJ and Dwayne lugwig they're going go all right this is what we do and you're going to see him angles mixing it up I'm excited about because of that reason I I I think TJ is spectacularly talented no doubt and TJ

130:56has amazing footwork and all that the Dwayne system but liner's got something special man I've very rarely seen a guy at his weight class that hits people the way he does it's a very it's a almost like a he's doing a different thing yeah it's different kind of monster those those fights are very similar where Cody garban just needs one to win the fight lyer needs one to win the fight Don MCC Cruz footwork is ridiculous TJ Dill Shaw's footwork ridiculous but you got think you know TJ ko'ed hen and barow twice dropped him in the first round with a straight right hand it's not like TJ doesn't have power and TJ ler power he doesn't have the same kind of power but he's got way more options as far as movement you know so it's going to be very interesting see how play it's kind of like you have this movement game and remember that fight's only three rounds which hurts I think TJ I think that

131:41hurts TJ because he's got to survive the storm yeah yeah TJ because TJ moves so good man he's hard like in the baral fight you saw it like right away baral's got that like linear style presses forward those were five rounds though right because that footwork is going to it's that's going to be hard to follow if you're that straightforward pressure fighter four and Championship rounds like Jesus Christ and starts wearing on you and then TJ takes over that's interesting that's a good point I think TJ uh is is definitely in a tricky situation because he wanted that rematch wanted that title fight he was really close in the first fight with Dominick Cruz it was a real close decision just told me they Bas like you won that fight I think Dana even agreed was like you won that f fight man it's a very close fight no doubt about it whoever you believe won that fight and then Dominic

132:26goes on and beats IAH and beats him handily and now Dominic is stepping in to fight him and he's got a he's he's uh fighting Cody and he's got a really tough fight on that on on that same card and a really tough fight where if he loses that fight manine this is and this is a guy that has missed weight a couple of times and liner is like kind of tricky in that situation where he's mwe at at featherweight or a Mis weight at flyweight yeah a couple of times and hasn't he miss weight at uh bantamweight too yes yeah so this is a guy that's going to come in big as he's very dangerous hits super hard like in a creepy way creepy hard almost almost like it's almost like a heavyweight fight for TJ because you make one mistake in ler LS it's over where if you if you're fighting Dom you make some mistakes you get lit up he's not going to end you're not show pull up liner

133:17versus McDonald Mike McDonald is a straight k killer that kid's a bad he's got had some injuries yeah had some injuries lost to Uriah Uriah Maul him that was the big one when IAH merked him because that he finally came back and then IAH merked him he went away it was one of 's finest performances IAH cracked him with a right hand got a hold of that neck and just put the full UAH on him as far as his uh his Guillotine that mounted Guillotine just but it's almost like A35 tournament cuz you have you know you have uh Cody and Dom then you have TJ liner the loser is going to fight the loser Winner's going to fight the winner yeah let's watch check out that if you could do you find that fight liner versus Michael McDonald KO I had it but it pulled up a wrong fight for some reason oh these sons of not there it is so like Michael McDonald like real classical Style real

134:06good punching power not built like a scary guy but a vicious knockout artist like one of those guys where the body really sort of uh is a is very deceptive and remember he was like top top prospect too he was a big big Prospect to Uriah mhm or hen and baral first he lost to hen and baral right and then he came back and fought Uriah wasn't that the case how tall is liner he's short he's short but he's about as the same height as Dwight kawi yeah I don't know I I don't think he is honestly I think he's 5'4 he's a small little dude he's a small guy but it hits like a ma truck yeah almost creepy in his power man like and and so confident in it too but to again to the point where I don't think he's ever be champ you look at a guy like John Dodson who just outworked him yeah and I thought he lost that fight granted they gave it to liner yeah well it was close

135:00enough I mean oh look look he heard him there look he heard him there you could see Mike McDonald steps back and like oh Jesus there's a feeling that guys get when he connects on them where you see it in their eyes they're like holy like this is a this is a different thing here it's a it's a that's not snowflake that's not snowflake move yeah no and he's he's also got a ridiculous chin when he foot when he stood in front of Rivera he's going like this like come on they were just banging it out and Rivera fun Rivera flattens people so as you watch like liner walk him down here you're looking at this kid who's just got unique power like really unique and even a guy like look at that boom Michael McDonald recognized he goes down there look he goes down again boom boom boom boom and liner just stands in front of him bites on his mouthpiece and mauls him McDonald landed one

135:46too and liner ate it like a Tic Tac and he's moving forward boom straight boom he rocks him again and he's just undeniably confident in his ability to walk you down and smash you see what you can't do is let him back you up and get your back against the cage you got to move man see I feel 10 times more 10 times more 100% but the question is is there going to be exchanges where dillas Shaw is inside of his range and will one of these things land and once one of those things do land will Dillashaw continue to engage the same way like boom boom boom or will it be over lands but TJ takes a good shot and has never been a guy to stand in front of you like this no and oh look at that boom you see his head gets snapped at 135 what are we talking about just it's very rare that anybody has that kind of destroying power that remember TJ can wrestle too so if they get in close

136:39he'll take his ass down the difference between him and Dodson at 135 and I like doson at 35 I think he's better at 35 than 25 I just think he just kills himself too much to make that weight like when you fought gambaran it's dots can sneak in on you and then sneak out on you and when they fought did they fight at 35 or 25 when gambs and uh and liner fought that was at 25 is it 100% that was at 25 yeah is it you might be right I don't think that's the right weight class for Dodson I think Dodson yeah both guys I think both guys are way better off without destroying themselves those are fun fights man and then on the pre the the FS1 prelims are stacked you got Neil Magny versus what's that a catch weight 136 and a half he miss weight or no I'm just Wikipedia so it must have been like a last minute decision to to have that fight so that's interesting that Dodson

137:31and him went to war and liner won the decision yes at 35 but but I thought um you thought Dodson won yeah um but here's the other thing about TJ you got to think how long has TJ really been with Dwayne Ludwick and he continues to get better with Dwayne Ludwick it's only been a few years so in the last couple of years like we you know what do we've seen we've seen the two big fights with hen and bar where he merked him right which were the the alltime career highlight performances right especially the second one the Joe stto fight which was an interesting fight because taking on a real tough guy on a real short notice one day one day during the weighin brow trying to make weight falls asleep and and bangs his head on the wall because he cut too much weight Joe stto steps in and so TJ makes that adjustment wins that fight comes back beats the out of Barra in the

138:15rematch like really dominated him in the rematch those are like you know real highlight real finish is all three of those fights so then uh he goes from that the really close loss to Dominick Cruz and then beats a sunsa like he took a chance with a sunow two at the time yeah he beat a sunow looked better in the ass sunow fight than he did in the first time they fought so he's showing Improvement just in that fight you just got to wonder um what this is going to look like what liner versus him is going to look like very very interesting fight great matchups yeah that one particular what do you think about Cody and Dominic do you think that Cody's going to be to like when you look at Cody move and you see his success against guys like mitsugi against guys like Thomas Almeida and then you see what dominic does to people he's in front of you he's not he's he's shuffling stances he's off to

139:04the side he's got his hands down he's moving in this really weird way that's real tough to emulate I I love Cody but the X Factor here is we haven't really seen him face top competition mizugaki is older he got merked before from Dominic then he gets merked by Cody we saw promise in Almeida we saw him F fight a really promising guy again young guy not the level of domc Cruz or we see with the movement right the thing I like about Cody so damn game I was talking to uh Lance Palmer at Team Alpha Male and they're like we've never seen anything like it like fight week if he sees someone and he needs to work on this but he's just Young and Hungry he goes if he sees someone from another Camp he tries and fights him in the hallway he's just like this pit bull man he's just so goddamn competitive like we we have to have a with him at all times all times he won't leave the he won't leave the

139:54gym if he sees someone else from the camp tries and fights them but don't you think that's a the waste of energy 100% he's young he's young it could be an exaggeration though could be for sure he may have done had a problem with one dude once Eddie Bravo now all of a sudden talking reasonable now now now talking talking common sense that sounds like fake news what else is I let's go over the rest of the card pull up the whole card Jamie the the big thing on this is um can Cody land can but can he keep up for again F it's five rounds it's five rounds man yeah a long you think about's I don't know anything about these guys they're both real good man they're both real good good ground Fighters too lisis smoka and Ray Borg that should be a very interesting fight fun fight this card it sucks cuz how about Kane and uh verdom Ray Borg's the guy that pulled out on uh

140:43he was supposed to be fighting um uh Ian and pulled out on real short notice remember that the F SM fun to watch fun to watch is smoka an American Russian or actually from the Eastern block no he's American he's American he's like yeah where's lisis a fun fight I don't know where Lew is from what sucks is Kane verd dumoff that Hawaii oh he's Hawaiian That's right The Last Samurai that's why it's da that's right his dad's probably Russian though how dare you come on SM is that a is that a a Russian name hell yes Jamie go back to that come on man I don't no anything smoka smoka what is that uh when you say it like that that sounds doesn't it smoka bro um where is where's what's his ethnicity it just might be Hawaiian dude he might just be like you know Brazilian his nickname go to is a wik does he have a Wikipedia he might be a mad Stoner dude he's Hawaiian as yeah he looks

141:42pretty Hawaiian Hawaiian are killing it huh Hollow oh yeah man well that's a crazy Island you're stuck on an island with dudes and you got a problem with them you can't just drive away like that's a completely different mindset just can't drive away you got you're all living fight each other on that island you're hanging out together on a volcano doesn't say anything about his ethnicity say Hawai he's Hawaiian bro he's Hawaiian is man let's go to the uh Amanda nunz Ronda Rousey fight if you had to put some money down what do you what do you think man who the knows I love saying who the knows because you we haven't seen Ronda fight in over a year we don't know head you're looking at her body she's in insane shape there's some pictures of her online throwing punches and you look at her back you're like holy Haven seen them she's down she's down to fight weight weight already

142:31apparently you know I think losing to someone like Holly Holm the way she did and to be tired and get beat up and the whole deal like look at her back there where she's punching the speed bag Jesus that's redonkulous God damn so if you think about the way she lost that fight and how she looked physically she didn't look nothing like this like not even close like she's got all these videos of her running up hills and all this different stuff she looks like way more fit she got tired in the fight with Holly and that was a big factor it's also getting hit was a big factor getting stunned right away and but really solid conditioning will allow you to recover better than not being in such good shape especially when you get hit in the head that's a a big factor with the guys that are super super fit is how they bounce back you know like um Neil mag's good example you can stun that guy

143:22in the first round but he's so fit he bounces back for her too that that Holly fight she the one thing about Ron she always comes to fight She's Always In Shape she she takes that you know personal takes it kind of upon herself to she did not have the same sort of dedication towards that fight with Holly that she's got towards this fight physically I don't think we know physically you can say that but we don't know she's been shooting movies she won't do press conf right you know what I'm saying so we don't know if she could take her down use her Judo and not try to strike with her just clinch up do that Judo trip take her down anybody's in danger of that armar arm is so goddamn Amanda Nunes could easily get caught in that arm bar wouldn't shock you here's a question for you Joe she got to drag her down here's a question for you guys do you think she has the

144:05coaching to make changes where she just doesn't bull forward on Amanda Nunes and get punched in the face of course she's going to be calm of course she's going to take her time of course she's not going to go out there Reckless she's going to take her time that's how she came around she should anyways and it seems like common sense don't get crazy get in there just get the blood going that's not her that's not her Eddie she didn't get to this that's like asking Mike Tyson can you sit on the outside and Jab and do that she might try to overwhelm her but she's not stupid she's going to learn from mistakes it's just fight a cleaner fight more movement more head movement knee surgery she's had knee surgery since then she could take Amanda down I think she could take her down cat um cat Zano had a real hard first round in the first round Amanda Nunes was beating the

144:49out of cat Nunes or cat Nunes cat cat came back and stopped Nunes that's nun beat got her on the back nun isn't known for a cardio like if if Rhonda again it's tough because what makes Rhonda great is there's this flurry there's exchange next thing you know you're she hip toss you and you're an arm bar right that's her thing she's not really going to sit on outside be patient that's not her but if she can like if it's a dog fight I think Ronda ends up catching in the fourth or fifth round cuz Amanda she starts off like a Title Wave and we've seen her losses she kind of slows down she just does yeah well it's going to be interesting to see if American Top teens's been able to do something to mitigate that if they've who knows what kind of strength conditioning program she's under now the only problem I see on the ground is if if Ronda takes her down and ends up on

145:35top she might have a hard time passing Amanda nuna's guard and we'll see like ronda's not she's not known for her guard passing so that could be a problem maybe she take her scrambles Eddie that's her thing but it's like up if she can get her on her back how will she she deal with passing the guard she really doesn't she goes to it and then she's going transition from there you have to deal with it with the black belt and Jiu-Jitsu you're going to have to deal with the guard pass it's really doesn't submit anybody it's not a she a black belt right Rond can get on top of her well she submitted Mesa Tate she's a black belt jiujitsu she submitted Sarah Sarah McMahon too she battered both of them and submitted both of them she whooped both her asses and but different subm did she did she submit Sarah McMahon she submitted uh cat she definitely submitted Misha no no cat

146:24beat her up no not cat I'm sorry she submitted Misha yeah she submitted M after that whole I think she did the same thing to Sarah McMahon I think she cracked her and then and then put her away with a choke the sure the one thing she has over Ronda in this fight is power she has vicious power striking that's it i' say that's it if Rhonda does come at her full clip like that it's a very risky proposition she can crack so hard but if Rhonda feels like she can get closer to that here we go she's not dropping she's not dropping CHS with one punch right she's not scary oh yeah is I'm talking about Amanda Nunes Amanda Nunes she's mering girls one shot she's dropping him in sha Blazer okay okay no she's merking girls yeah she needs Amanda nun can punch as hard as any woman in that division she might be the hardest women puncher in the 135 pound she's the hardest woman puncher outside of cyborg

147:17well Cyborg's not 135 for sure no I'm just saying Fe she's the hardest punch sideboards a different really okay okay the game in my mind stays the same see the fight with Misha I agree did you see her fight with Misha Amanda Nunes Misha I yes but I forgot all about it VI pull up Amanda Nunes stopping Misha she beat her this was the last fight this was her last fight yeah she won the oh yeah yeah yeah I saw that okay what about the Sarah McMahon fight I don't remember this is UFC 200 go before that because before that is when uh she beating her up on the feet yeah I was there she's got a nasty jab too man she steps in I mean good distance boom boom good scramble the question is like is she gonna there's a big difference between dealing with Ronda and dealing with Misha look this is a mauling man Jesus CHR she beat the breakes off of her Amanda's just putting

148:07it to Mesa Tate and you just she just has long ass punches too and then she gets her back this how I see if Rhonda's in the right frame of mind I think she does rush in like she usually does probably each is eats a shot but then she gets inside gets her underhook takes her for a ride and submits her in the first round God I hope nobody tests positive for anything there's so many people getting popped lately how about cyborg yeah yeah game over no matter what it's for game over man now everyone goes told you told you spirono lactone is what they're saying it is spon lactone is a DHT inhibitor which is a derivative of testosterone dihydrotestosterone I used to rub that on my head when I was trying to keep my hair from falling out because of testosterone yeah yeah if you have the gene for it dihydro testosterone is what both You Beautiful heads of hair don't have that come on

148:58look at dude come on my hair is falling out like it's on fire no you're almost 50 his hair is beautiful thanks man thank you thank you for mine's dead mine's a dead Wasteland but when I was a kid or when I was in my um I guess I was probably in my 20s I would uh rub this spirono loane on my scalp because it's a DHT inhibitor it inhibits DHT so when uh people take steroids or a woman takes steroids or a man who has that Gene where the hair falls out and if a man has that Gene any take steroids probably even worse but if you rub that spirono lactone on it has a DHT inhibiting effect and I think if you take it orally it also um it acts as a diuretic and um there's also uh some uses as a masking agent there's a whole bunch of different uses of this like as a diuretic it also has benefits as a mask asking agent and it also mitigates the effects of uh of taking steroids in

149:54females so there's a lot of stuff going on FL with that stuff but the one on her side that she says it is is that it's a it's used as a diuretic which appears to be true you know that'd be great she goes to rise in and fights Gabby Garcia think about that what she said though wait a minute some issues I think they're friends I think they're friends yeah she had scratch that issues with birth control pills and then she was bloated because of birth control pills so a doctor prescribed this to her off seon which is to try to deal with uh look I don't know I had never cut that kind of weight before but if you watch that outside the lines piece on her uh with the weight cutting have you ever seen it I've seen it and the and a commissioner was like I would never approve for her to fight like she that's how she's fighting at 135 should be illegal well 140 she never got 13 140

150:39even 140 you got to watch it Eddie it's it's insane terrifying it's insane way she should be able to do that so she turned down the fight and that's why she saying she turned down those two title fights cuz I was giving her I'm like turns down title fights even though they made the division 4 she's saying I destroyed my body I I'm having depression I'm having horrible issues my body's just not ready to fight like I need to March well when you talk to people when you talk to people that have cut like ridiculous amounts of weight like that and then all of a sudden the body just goes it just something goes wrong and your body doesn't want to lose any weight anymore your kidneys start aching you get kidney stones it could be some serious side effects cutting thyroid too goes man it's so d dangerous you're you're literally getting to the door of death 24 hours

151:24before you enter into a cage fight it's the craziest thing that we allow people to do in MMA and it's essentially in a lot of ways it's sanction cheating true sanction cheating you got to have weight classes and then you got to have a weight to enforce them what's what's your what's your idea I think there's got to be a way to get guys to fight people that are their size without having the same rigid weight structure where you have like 155 and 17 and 185 you don't have any any solutions no I don't I think there's got to be a way to check hydration levels in Camp and there's got to be a way you're G to have to blow the whole thing up though like Champions won't be the champions in the same weight class anymore but if you got Chris Weidman to fight at his natural weight and another guy to fighted his you how you determine that though you would have to find out what a guy weighs

152:11when he's in shape and fit and you would have to do this whole transition over a period of time so when that way comes in that's when they're going to cut no you don't allow you don't and there would also be like 20 belts right maybe just like I'm in good shape you do the same thing that you do with usada you randomly test their hydration levels you randomly test their weight so if they're healthy and they're in Camp there's no way they're going to keep that weight off the entire Camp it's impossible what if they're close you know what I mean it's like it's close it's like when Cowboy Cuts 5 PBS that's normal like when you see Cowboy you don't go you don't go there's no way this dude is 170 you look at him you go yeah he looks like he's 170 that's his real weight when you look at Damen Maya you go there's no way he's 170 he's 200 lb when you look at like Rick story he's

152:52giant that like there's there's some guys that cut the weight and then put it back on in a big way Johnny Hendricks in his prime Johnny Hendrick his prime would be jackied when he was merking John Fitch and Marvin campman and those guys so random weighin random so for sure they're not going to be cutting they they wouldn't know so they couldn't and then whatever you weigh in at they they let you cut five pounds if you need to or something like that something along those lines you give a person buffer it gets super messy but yeah it does get messy but you also I think you you're you're causing part of the problem with weigh-ins by having these very specific weight classes like 155 170 so then the problem would be determining who is a champion and what do you call that champion up you have a built-in area because you know You' say welterweight or middleweight or light

153:40heavyweight what you're not saying is the 155lb champ the names are kind of silly like why is welterweight 170 in MMA but 47 in boxing that's ridiculous boxing's been around forever why do we have different names or different uh weight classes for the same name but it doesn't matter still everybody knows what a light heavyweight is based off that yeah it's still crazy my point is instead have like lightweight middleweight have all these different names but have people actually weigh that like for a guy who's 170 have an actual 170lb man not some crazy dude who gets to 215 like like Rumble Johnson us too how about this how about it that's that would work but how hard would it be in the you know the random testing and all that and then the 5 pounds what if the guy is six pounds what you could do is the the two the 48 hours before the weigh-in you're under control you

154:37have you have to have like you're in a hotel oh really you can't do any extreme weight cutting no weird bad when you check when you check in on Tuesday I don't again B's got into the commission I don't know what the they're doing now but they used to as soon as you land you you you don't check in anything you go to the uh room and they weigh you and if you're like 40 lbs three lbs over they're you know they're on you man yeah makes sense yeah that's it makes there that's it yeah you'd have to they'd have to weigh you all the time they're all over yeah they're all over and you're weighing in every day oh that's if you're red flagged if you're red flagged then you know they'll tell Dana hey bad example they already example guys but they don't because the still miss like hey kelvin's 30 pounds overweight like all right well he's made it before still that what you

155:28got to have is someone who doesn't allow anybody to fight 30 lbs over what they actually weigh in at it's not legal like Weidman cut I want to say 37 pounds in three days Leota yeah when he fought Leota Vita so there's got to be an official weigh a few times yeah like they all got to be official throughout Camp you got to they do that in Abu Dhabi because it's a two-day tournament and you got to wait if you make it to the to Sunday if you win a couple matches and you get it to the semi-finals and finals you got a weigh again who did widman fight when he cut all that weight was it Damen Maya no it was in uh it was in Abu Dhabi and he he cutting weit on the plane remember oh it was in Abu Dhabi so he did was it who did did he fight did he fight leoto no it wasn't Leo I thought it was on Fox no no no it wasn't leoto it was in Abu Dhabi I remember but I thought he F if

156:17it was Dam Maya it was Dam was Dam yeah that was on Fox wasn't it I for Anderson uh Muno fought on that card so was that Abu Dhabi when BJ Penn fought Frankie Edgar it must have been because the other Abu Dhabi card was when Anderson fought Damen MAA right those are the two that I went to I don't think it's a fox card no you might I think you're right what do you think about the new rules that uh Big John McCarthy did you see that video no no no I you rep I didn't watch it you didn't watch it what your MMA encyclopedia how could you not watch the new unified rules the Big John McCarthy posted you watched it right yeah it was Damen Maya so basically Bon a standup fight against Damen Ma and it was on Fox it was the second card on Fox and he cut short amount of weight in a long or a lot lot of weight in a short amount of time 32 lbs in 10 days insane insane like to do that monster you get

157:13to death's door and then he's so tough yeah you can't do that thing you know when Fighters are are against the cage and they put their hand hand on the mat so they don't get knead in the face can't do that no morees you got to have all four uh uh you have have both hands to yeah yeah no they haven't had that it's just just starts in 2017 it starts in but they announced announced yeah that's a great rule right there hell yeah it's a little I mean did they did they talk about eye pokes or anything like that I don't think so they did talk about clavical grabs grabbing the collar us to be think that you could do that I remember hearing a guy say that he could do that just hit somebody in the collar bone please do try that please do please try to dump like kick him in the knee like I just kick him in the knee the collar bone though is the dumbest like do you really think it's that easy yeah

158:01hit someone on their collar bone that thing collapses popular right dudes they they they think they could just kick you in the knee and then they're going to like immobilize you to your way point a guy who could really benefit from that is Chris Weidman him at light heavyweight he should be a light heavyweight I feel like yeah for sure well Jon Jones should be a heavyweight you know Jon Jones fought Dan Henderson in that grappling match he was 238 lounds I mean he merked Dan Jes Louis what a beautiful takedown see his takedown oh my God I love it good he shot in and Gary tonin hit that very same takedown but unsuccessfully on uh his opponent yeah and grappling match right after that I think gorilla I thinkman is going to go to light heavyweight John is so big for light heavyweight man he's so physically talented too what is it it's a it's a fake single and then you kind

158:48of like duck under get the clinch yep is that what that was and the way John did it was just it was so glorious when you watch how quickly he covered ground you realize like how talented he is man oh you know what I don't even think it's up on the Internet either I think it is you could watch it watch watch it you could watch the uh the Tak down and you can watch the finish I don't think you watch the whole fight and now I think are they gonna do JN vers Chael now because JN got on the mic was like yeah I want to fight you CH I think they are going to probably do something like like chil will go in there and get smooshed for uh John is just too big and too good he's so talented man he's winning Jiu-Jitsu tournaments like as a goof he's stepping into him and and and grapple with people and strangle I would love to see him go with like a Gary tonen or with like a real phip

159:35yeah like a bues or something let me tell you something man what John said when he was on my podcast he goes I fell in love with jiu-jitsu he goes I'm obsessed with it he goes I'm training all the time he goes now I'm not going to be standing in front of people trade anymore he goes that he's like I'm going to be taking people down choking the out of him he said that yeah yeah yeah it was hilarious like he he's so talented as a Grappler he can do whatever he want like on some other planet yeah it was a nice pass too he took him down and then it was a nice pass that arm triangle was joh Jones might be pulling guard on people and armar he already did he pulled guard Daniel Daniel cier after he was beating him most up yeah but he he might be pulling guard on people and arm baring him in the future he's also a guy who could do in even to a bigger level be the light heavyweight champ and

160:18heavyweight champ I think if he and he could do that you get so much more notoriety than Conor could he take the Abu Dhabi absolute as well maybe he might look man there's you occasionally get a guy that's just so incredibly talented you go this it's really all about Focus it's about F like if you watch him watch him you've seen it the the the Dan Henderson match Dan Henderson's totally undersized he not they're not nearly in the same weight class Danon really not going all out either is he but it's effortless yes I mean you you watch how he does like what do you mean you think Dan Henderson was going light I just think Dan was like it was a match it was competition yeah but it's Dan hon watch this here here it goes because this is uh suspended UFC fighter Jon Jones what does it say fought Dan Henderson at underground event and uh Jon started off on his knees and just crawled

161:07forward and you see Dan like putting his hand on his head under event man John is like he's like Unstoppable the way he's cling B D so strong he's what I'm saying is like the way he's moving in on him it's almost like unavoidable it's like this is going to be a mauling you know this is not going to be like what he did with cha sun and when he grabbed cha and took him down and just slammed him on ground you can't be under size and compete with John like look at the guys that have given him issues like guson he's the same size those are the only time he really has issues VOR gave him some issues well VOR caught him in that arm bar then got dealt with he submitted VOR yes he did yes he did but when vtor caught him in that arm that was like really the first time we'd seen him ever in trouble inside the he's human they said get the get out of here this is mostly John just

161:57pushing him up against the cage then he let him go oh he threw a jab at him what the is that about he joking they laughing we didn't really throw a jab like he pretended he was going to do a spinning elbow oh he's just Clowning Around on I think rockold wants to do it too John Jill versus rockold that's right rockle did say that let's see the T well how long did the match go I don't remember but the takedown was the ridiculous thing see if you can find that in there see now this is worth it Eddie just to make money because you're not no head trauma if you lose it's whatever oh yeah for sure this is a totally different thing I really wish that this P there it is woo boom gets him down and right into side control I really wish that this was a viable option uh in terms of like financial success I really wish that there was a a way I think I think your event has best

162:49chance of doing it I really do I think if your event people watch it and get behind it it has a real possibility because it's exciting as and people will pay money to see it especially when flying to Vegas of these guys are doing I'm flying to Vegas tomorrow meeting with uh UFC Fight Pass they want to they got great numbers ebi 10 they said the numbers were staggering and they want to they want to get behind it and go crazy the best thing about Eddie look at this this is totally possible you could be the Don King of chokes look at this look at the king of jokes look at this just you and Eddie you were saying that you often times will stay in the mount here I stand 34 Mount butter Mount that's that's you stay do you ever stay in full Mount full Mount too only because the rise of uh leg lockers deadly leg leg lockers that hit a leg lock transition when they're

163:38mounted so if you let them get their hips up I always stay in three4 I don't even the only time I'm doing a full Mount is if I'm in Skydive if I got my hips down and my ankles crossed and then I'm hunting for an underhook but I'll never just sit there and regular Mount because everybody now has has got that mount escape to leg locks that you got to it could just turn everything around it could be over push on the hips and get the legs also those ridiculously flexible guys that get those legs in play like Eddie's dexterity your dexterity that's my that's always been my main Escape too is using my flexibility when someone mounts me and that takes me into leg locks and I that used to be the only heel hook I had in my game was off being mounted and then I would use a Mar Escape see cups in the armpits cross my feet in front of their stomach overhook a leg and then take

164:24them right to just good oldfashioned outside heel hook that uh that was my number one escape and that's just too dangerous and now guys have taken that escape and added a thousand more leg lock transitions off it and at that um I actually had a guy come to my gym maybe four or five years ago a purple belt from henzo and he was super flexed by walk onto the mat and he's sitting there walking into class he's got both legs legs behind his head I don't know who this guy is he's sitting on my mats he's sitting on my mats I'm like uh how you doing he's just like looking at me he just wanted he wanted to show me how flexible he was he's way more flexible than I am way more I can't I can't cross my feet behind my head and we rolled and I mounted him quite easily but I didn't know it was a trick he let me Mount him and then his flexibility and I was low I was super low but he would grab his feet

165:11and just put it in the little crack and inch by inch he would stick his foot and be I'm laying flat on him and then he would get through boom right into lock and he tapped me I'm like holy so he went again and I mounted him again I go said I I I shouldn't have mounted him you know there's some guys like you just don't Mount these guys you take him to the truck so I mounted him and I was super tight super just clinching tight and he just grabbed his foot and just put a right there just would hold it right in the in between our rib cages and he couldn't get in initially but inch by inch he would just get he would just hold fli it was like he was jailbreaking uh uh to that mount Escape wow so that just crazy ta me again and I thought from that point on I go hm I can ever uh I can't I always got to um make sure that um I roll with people and assume everyone can do that doesn't Sean b have

166:06that kind of ridiculous flexibility and dexterity you got to assume everyone's that good so at that point it altered my mou a lot like with arm triangles I just stay in the mount so you just assume you have to assume that everybody's at the death level that why not right if it works on them it works onbody me up with it what was crazy when Eddie and I were doing that on it Invitational thing they were telling us that there's like 14-year-old 17y olds who are homeschooled just to be dedicated to ji- Jitsu remember those 9-year-old remember those 9-year-olds I was like what the is going on here two nine-year-olds doing I'm ankle locked all your man you know what we were talking about earlier before the podcast started we were talking about physical freaks like that big gorilla Shane Carwin and how when uh I watched Shane Carlin roll with people I was like what is the point

166:52of this this is preposterous shane Car Shane Carlin walked into Amal Easton's Jiu-Jitsu gym and I didn't know who he was for a second I'm obviously I knew who he was I'd commentated his fights but for a second I looked up from the mat and I saw him walk in I'm like that's not a person that's a gorilla that's some shaved up jugut from the X-Men yeah it doesn't even look like a real human and he would row with people and it would be Preposterous it it was a waste of your time I remember I trained cuz Shane would had another job and he had an injury so he'd be gone for like 4 months I train Jiu-Jitsu twice a day so I'm I can't wait cuz he's like a big brother I'm can't wait till he gets in I'm going to roll this full up he would come in off his 9 to5 set his lunchbox down put on his weird basketball shorts baggy t-shirt like you've been rolling I'm like yeah man let's go and

167:39you just destroy me I'm like dude why don't you do more Jiu-Jitsu like why I can I'm just gorilla strong man gorilla strong but wouldn't you love to see a guy like him fall in love with it and then win the mundal like how crazy would that be how crazy would it be to watch Shane Carwin win Abu Dhabi with his wrestling background if he want if he dedicated to he DED him dedicated himself to submissions like just pure submissions like what a freak athlete his mson choke you know because he's bigger than mson he would pop your head off if you got it you know what the problem is though man he's got just that Preposterous punching power and he's like why would I not have my best thing yeah like his punching power was just ridiculous he's too too much work why don't I just jab that guy in the face and wi pretending have hug I mean it's got to be it's got to feel way better to

168:29knock someone out to drop someone than to tap him out go to Shane Carwin Ko's Frank Mir because that was one of the darkest ones do you ever hear sh Frank mir's Corner they're going they're going uh chill Frank round's almost over just chill and it pissed Shane off he looks at the corner and and just Frank May right there that's what he did his corner is going you're good F Frank just let him get the underhook don't give him head control you're just chilled it's almost the end of the round then Shane's like what are you talking about I can knock a dude out I need this much space he a douche game over they were ridiculous uppercuts just horrific vicious yeah he's he's an interesting example of Frank Mir wants to do ebi I know he does yeah it's a great idea yeah he be look he's awesome awesome fabrio verom as well wants to do combat Jiu-Jitsu the combat jit

169:20e which is going to be the next show ebi 11's going to have a regular 16 man uh regular ebi rules welterweights and within it a fourman combat jiit in March we we nail down the date tomorrow I'll go to for sure let me know when it comes up there's going to be Jiu-Jitsu with palm strikes Jiu-Jitsu with palm strikes is coming I would go to it watch it with you no no no I try to slap but not slap the slap part but you know have you ever thought about competing in the Jiu-Jitsu part uh is he too busy with podcasting I'm too busy with podcasting comedy you know work on standups hard enough you know like it's so challenging man I appreciate that but you know when you did have that grappling match at metamoris with Cyborg and everybody got mad at you and you understand why everybody got mad at you% you'd be even more mad if you know how much money I made you did engage him you

170:12did engage him and you gauged him on the ground you gave cyborg chances and he couldn't do with you and I watched that I was like wow like understand you being cautious because you have to fight in the UFC and you you didn't want to get your legs torn up cuz Cyborg's a that tornado guard is and he's a ridiculously strong dude ridiculous he's a bad I mean cyborg is a killer and but you did you did nfy his attacks I mean I understand that you went pretty straight defense but it did work you it's interesting because he he was engaging with you you were locked up with him in the guard and he wasn't able to do anything with you I was like hm I wonder how you would do if you like really dedicated yourself like an reped in some sort of an event like that you want the truth I just don't care that's all you need to say I'm too busy with other things like that that that part of

170:55my life like I love watching Edd's thing and I love commentating on it but to dedic because you really got to dedicate to keep it you know how it is you really got to dedicate and be all in like all cyborgs doing is shooting jiujitsu seminars and videos and rolling every day I just don't care man when you put Mitri on to sleep I remember thinking like this dude's got a serious Dar like you have a serious Dar when you clamp that thing out on miton I was like o oh like oh this is and then he was out and I was like that's a serious Dar choke yeah that was my man I I love Jiu-Jitsu but it's just yeah it's not I'm not in that lane anymore it's not like it's not like the there's not big money in submission only right now should be that fun maybe it you know for the winner the winner has pretty good money I mean Gary toner has made thousands and thousands of dollars and

171:43Eddie Cummings and they made more than $100,000 this year oh yeah they're making money if you win but um overall you know um you you um there's right now there's no money for it but still still the guys that are in it the guys at the top they're training full I feel like your event has a chang you your your event has the the possibility to change that I really do you you've got the event I really do hopefully you know ebi 10 was pretty damn crazy so crazy to watch man and you got little girls competing which is amazing to watch girls that are like how the girls you know the UFC didn't want to have any of that anymore so yeah no more miners no more uh no more uh underage Fighters oh man was that because of the girl that got heel hooked and her leg popped probably Soul snatcher probably her heel hook he heard the snap yeah remember that yeah she had her ACL blown out I love watching

172:41children do jju that's the cutest ever it's well it's mind blowing it shows you where the sports at Gundrum come on I know Grace Gundrum she is really amazing who's oh what's her name kaora Kora sack have you seen this Ka girl she had a big old check isn't it isn't it possible to maybe have a a youth version of the same thing and have like uh just call it something else and don't do it on Fight Pass that is possible it seems like there might be an option to do other stuff as well unless you have some sort of exclusive thing with you want to grow it I I I agree like that pop W or Le like you want to give kids the chance to compete yeah people loved watching Grace people loved it that b she got bigger Roars than anybody oh yeah man tremendous Roars people love watching Grace but you know there's other shows she just uh she's going to do um show the-art finishers which is a subon show ebi

173:35rules on the East Coast she's going to do that she's got a big fight it's like a super fight coming up Cor just fought in the honored Invitational so there's these other uh uh submission only tournaments out there using ebi rules where you know they have a platform and you know the UFC didn't I didn't even want to fight him on it you know they like okay you no miners no miners no big deal you know uh uh eventually we'll we'll see The Return of Grace eventually eventually can you imagine you know three or four years later when she's 18 and we bring her back it's going to be crazy it's going to be like the Guns and Roses Reunion yeah yeah really Jiu-Jitsu interesting it's just interesting to see it because I think it's uh it's the safer alternative for the athletes especially athletes that really just want to develop the Jiu-Jitsu skills and get immersed in Jiu-Jitsu they don't

174:20want to have to in order to be a professional have to compete as an MMA fighter when the competition is so high at jiu jit in Jiu-Jitsu right now oh yeah oh yeah and so far every Jiu-Jitsu event has failed they've all failed all of them uh and ebi you know we're not out of the woods there's no big giant pile of money no one's making money except for the winners you know we're just is a passion project 100% and uh who knows maybe we don't survive but uh apparently we got really good reviews UFC Fight Pass for ebi 10 which you could still watch right now you watch replay was amazing watching Gio Martinez and Eddie Cummings go out at that that was one of the most epic Jiu-Jitsu matches of all time if you guys don't survive everyone's yeah everyone's hey we're going to try you know we're we're doing our best got I know you being humble and everything like that but you got hey I don't you

175:08just never know no no events have made it so far no events have made any money because the rules sucked ass go back to the UFC card let's see if there's is there any fights that we missed on this UFC C I don't know I don't know everyone's there's don't worry about no no no you got the perfect rule set let's go back to this just uh to see if there's anything else that we miss car oh that's right that's right that's what I wanted to talk about dude uh you know you got to wonder where uh Johnny Hendrick's head is at when you heard the way he trained for his last fight you know he was saying that he was only training like a few days a week and he wasn't really that steakouse yeah he wasn't really training every day and that his wife really got him geared up to to train for this fight but the problem with that is like Neil Magny is on a role man I mean he's had

175:53some tough fights some good fights and he beat Hector Lumbard by stoppage you know that's right he beat Lumbard and he beat Kelvin and he beat Lumbard when Lumbard was putting it to him in the first round it was one of those really close fights where it was like man this might get stopped then Daman Maya ate his ass for a lunch like Kobe dud the way Damen ma put that smush down on him I was like wow just a bad match up he I'm stud level jiujitsu what think to this thing very interesting first of all you got to get a hold of Woodley second of all you got to get him to the ground good luck with both of those things good luck with both of those things hammered into another dimension it's a fun fun fight Woodley and Woodley showed in that Wonderboy fight that he can Hammer you into a dimension in the fourth round correct he could still like deep into the Championship

176:42rounds can still Hammer you out of this Zone that's a scary fight for for everybody I tell you what the the threat of that Jiu-Jitsu might make Woodley a little cautious you I mean he's probably not going to throw any leg kicks or anything trying to knock his ass out but don't you think that Woodley's wrestling and his physical size and strength I he's unbelievably strong j70 is taking down wrestler after wrestler you see did you see when Damen Maya uh took down chel sonen people forget that and Sub in with the inverted triangle the mount that was lateral dropped double overhook lateral dropped himom yeah yeah it was glor vintage Dam yeah he got a hold of them and uh those is Frank me versus Carwin this is horrific couldn't I couldn't find a good video of it play that game yeah it's probably only on Fight Pass if you go to UFC Fight Pass uh we have an account or is

177:35it just my account your account okay is it on it's on the Apple yeah we don't have to see it but anyway it was a a merking merking but we were talking about the difference between a guy who's like a super tactical really highle guy and then there's a point of diminishing return but it doesn't work on somebody and that's the point of Shane Carwin like he should like like almost like there's like a a physical limit of almost all technique that you hit a wall when someone gets just so stupid strong that they can't as long as he's skilled and he is skilled on top of that he's aware of what's going on he's like a Rashad Evans black belt like Rashad's not going to submit you off his back but his knowledge and his defense is insane it's just different you know like he doesn't have what's going on with Rashad like what happened after that Tim Kennedy fight they pulled him out of the

178:18Tim Kennedy fight they pulled him out and then he was supposed to fight again right they pulled him out again I don't know they tried to fight Kennedy again but this time in Toronto and Toronto pulled him out too I know so New York City pulled him out then Toronto pulled him out and uh he says it's a pre-existing condition he said he something he's always had but who knows man I don't want to hear that what do you think about that Kevin Gastelum fight good Lord Jesus right nuts no no no against Tim Kennedy first of all oh yeah that's another example of a guy who wasn't cutting any weight and looked amazing but then he wants to go back talk to your boy why does he want to go back down to 70 cuz those guys have to cut weight those guys are cutting weight and getting down to 185 and they're gigantic guys like Hector Lumbard and he doesn't want to have to fight one of those guys

179:00okay but you got to make weight at 70 I understand what you're saying and I I think there's a middle ground there I think 7 too hard he's made 170 many times the last time but this last time he says he was on the this new dieticians uh regimen and it didn't work out it didn't work out did he have Dolce originally yes I think so did he just not want to pay the money I don't know exactly what went down between them he's just got to be personally more disciplined if he's just personally more disciplined with his diet it's on him yeah it doesn't matter The dietitian you know especially him cutting weight he's been doing for so long you know come on let me ask you this he's a animal animal make no except no I would mind him at 185 I think 185 I think he's fine there but he's fighting VOR B for next he's going to fight 85 yo dude that's a that's a rumble yeah it's

179:51in Brazil oh yeah what does that mean exactly what are you trying to you're his coach you don't know what does that mean VOR and Brazil is a different animal is it for sure what you trying to say why isn't there no use out of there hey what are you trying to say what are you trying to say Bron I'm not saying anything I'm saying there's something in the assai down there there's the last chance for romance for VOR too it's a great it's the perfect fight for Kell the perfect fight put the MS to him musasi put the Min to vtor and I think Kelvin is a better mover than mousasi mousasi has more weapons like mousasi is a way better Kicker uh but what Kelvin does man with his footwork and that like real light on his feet moving in with that right jab Rafel cder has got I mean his his striking looks super professional so good and and ridiculous combinations and speed and

180:42fluidity that's what keep going forward keeps going forward keeps going forward so game so game gas Tank's it's is so good he's so strong zero fear zero fear great chin his demeanor is insane yes and you know was real comfortable when Tim was mauling him like Tim got a hold of early in that first round and really put out a lot of effort seat belt got his back really was mauling him with size and power but Tim gassed himself out doing that Tim looked terrible in that fight I love Tim more than anyone this world Tim what about me you love more than me it's a tossup he he fights for my freedom he fights for my freedom interesting but uh T Tim looked rough in that fight Tim it was a terrible performance for him but we saw you something nobody handled thems better after a loss than that guy what did he say just owns up to it the guy kicked my ass he's a better

181:30fighter than me it was very embarrassing he post a picture him going to the hospit well that sucked yeah his face his face totally jacked Tim Kennedy took a picture of himself jacked in the hospital yeah the guy uh outlook on on losses you know losses are woo when you're in someone's corner and you're with someone man it's like it's it's hard to all you can say is like all you can say is you can't win them all bro you got caught anybody can get caught but so there's a difference between like what we're saying like a guy like Tim Kennedy took that loss and like how hard Ronda took her loss to Holly Holm there's a a giant difference complete opposite well that and that's the business of being a fighter this game's easy when you're murking everyone everyone's every media Outlet's telling you how good you are like yeah this great then you take one on the chin you lose most Fighters come back

182:18and go all right I got merked but watch this fight you'll see what's up I'm a real fighter that's why Tim or kelvin's had his losses everyone they come Conor you know when he came back he was already talking after that fight he was like you it I up but I'll be back took a like a man came right and didn't talk about a staff infection by the way a lot of people only found out about a staff infection because of my big mouth but he had a staff infection two weeks out of that first Nate Diaz fight he was taking antibiotics that's the word might be I don't think it's I haven't heard it directly from his mouth but I heard it from very reliable sources do you hear what his Camp is doing what are they doing his coach is requiring uh every fighter on his team to have their brain scan yeah John Kavanaugh yeah right powerful moov smart guy man everyone else to follow that yeah

183:04this is a crazy sport you know and no one wants to tell people when they can and can't do it but someone should be watching out for them because that same ego that makes you want to be a champion can also get you real confused as to when you're physically compromised which brings us to the fight that was pulled off this card Cain Velasquez versus Fabricio verdom the rematch which everybody was looking forward to and uh Kane did that meeting with that uh that whatever that MMA association yes the U Fighters Association and said that he's going to have to have a surgery after this fight and they went what why would you do that he up they like you can't say you need a surgery before you have a major fight first of all that that's going to with the betting lines there's a disaster there that's going to with the insurance if something happens to you and then

183:54afterwards they say oh you know you you told us that you were already hurt we're not paying for this like do you do you get paid um for like when you're in training camp and you get to a fight and you have to pull out because of injury you don't get nothing right what do you get uh nothing nothing so he got nothing so if he chose to fight with that injury he said he was going to be 100% he was going to have a qutone in ection and the doctors disagreed the Nevada State athletic commission disagreed that uh Bob Bennett guy he doesn't play any games man he's like you can't say something like that Kane's been in the business too long to do that he up he up I think he's just emotional when I called ler a little monkey earlier I up see came up you just talk you say things you know yeah I was going to say well that's kind of racist but well I I call myself a monkey though I just it sounds

184:42sounds worse than it really is it's not racist R I'm the last person racist but the point is when it comes to Kane is that it was a giant error and that error pulled him off of this card and now he's going to have to fight he's going to have to get surgery and then he's have to fight whoever the is left and it's you're talking about more months out and then even more examination next time and it's going to cost him a shitload of money a ton of money he went through the entire Camp he was a week out and they pull him from it and then he was saying I don't know what this is about I'm I'm 100% good to go I've been told I've been cleared so he was tweeting that he had been told that he was cleared right before they pull him I thought you know I think you give the guy a physical examination in terms of his movement like what can you do like how do you how do you tell the guy

185:24business wise you can't something his back in his back or NE but business wise you can't because the UFC goes man you have a bulging disc all right you get a Corone shot and then if you get punched in the face by or Doomer he gets a guillotine and you're paralyzed you sue the out of us cuz we we can't business you just can't do that no denying I don't think it falls on Kane knows better the the people around this Association shouldn't have let him do that well first of all they should have known about first the beorn rebney thing is very weird like I was reading what John Fitch had written that John Fitch rather in an interview said that he was very uh disturbed by all this because there's a class action lawsuit and what they're saying is that if the class action lawsuit is dropped like that they they could form this uh this Union and if they all agreed to abandon the class

186:12action lawsuit it would it would like help the strength and form the union and John fit was like what like so you're saying that the UFC would accept you as a union if you abandon the class action lawsuit that we've been chasing down for 2 years now without picking any sides like if you're on the side of the fighters not picking any sides you just have to look at that and go well what benefit would it be for the people that are not in this to accept that the class action lawsuit is dropped this all sounds like someone's trying to get some money corre there's there's no one's doing this for free that's what everybody has to realize when it comes to like these agencies and there's like three different competing ones that are stepping in right one suing the other there's the associ the two big ones there's Association there's the union yeah well ultimately I think we

186:54all want the same thing we all want fighters to be compensated fairly want them to make a lot of money because it's a short window of time and it's an awesome sport to watch right correct so you got to wonder does this help that does this help them does do do any of these organizations they haven't yet because the if they can't even get together and organize and they're going to fight right then no one's going to take you serious there's three different leaders three different ones and they all want different things and then you got to wonder whose agenda's over here whose agenda's over here what it has to come it can't come from a businessman can't come from another promoter has to come from the fighters the fighters you know what I'm saying yeah and I'm not saying current Fighters because they they need to fight and then they need to have someone speak for them who's been

187:37there but you you can't have these business guys with other hidden agendas trying to get things done or or in uh beorn's case he has this you know weird jealousy with and want to see him destroyed well we can't have that why are you speaking for us what are you doing yeah you have you don't have the respect of the fighters what the are you doing and notice he's taking a seat back cuz everyone when everyone saw him speaking they're like we're out man yeah well he was going old school Bellator when he was running things over there and uh King Mo is pissed off at him and King Mo Mo to this day calls him a dick rider all the time the whole it's not good when you got a guy like King Mo very respected guy who has horrible things to say about you and and I talked to Association I went what you guys doing like you have one you have one way to make impression and you this you put

188:21your best foot forward with this guy and then well I don't know the dude do you know him I know of Fighters who have dealt with him I never fought for Bellator so I know inside the fighter Circle that people have dealt with him for manager and stuff like that but I don't know him personally I was looking at all the tweets and all the negative stuff I think you can take a very positive angle about improving the life and the conditions of these Fighters without attacking people yeah there's no there's no reason to attack and it's also say what you want about Dana White it's not his job to make sure you guys get your together and form an association he's like I'm a businessman I put on fights if you guys want to do that cool get your together and then bring it to and then let's figure something out but if you guys are fighting with each other you you know

189:04what else is interesting about this uh the $4 billion doll that you know is uh that they had to pay to BU the it's a lot of debt I wonder how how do you I don't understand business I'm I'm a dummy I don't I don't have any business background but how much money do you have to make to pay off $4 billion like if you buy a house and your house is like 3 million bucks like damn like you look at some daunting 30-year payments now imagine a th000 times that plus a billion cuz that's what it is that's a thousand million what a billion is and that's why they're going and doing these budget cuts saying how can we save money here and how can we grow it so then you see all of a sudden you see the wom's 140 lb division you you're seeing these interm belt 145 you're seeing these intern belts you're seeing ways to you know make up the money well that's a really sad thing

189:57about the cyborg thing because cyborg is extremely marketable at 145 pounds and they made the division for her yeah they made the division for her and not just marketable but very controversial very controversial very I mean she's scary she she Merks women she goes after them and takes them down and destroys them smashes people she's in her 30s I think she's 34 or 35 is she that old I think so pull up 3 32 31 okay I'm wrong um so uh 31 is in her prime you know it's in her prime and for her to be the champion at 145 she could be back but the problem is she's going to be under even more scrutiny she's so man and and there's never been someone who needed to pass a test so bad in their life than her cuz the number one knock on her was you've tested positive before that's the only reason why you're competing that's why you're knocking people out and even I fell off that

190:46train was like no she's so skilled she deserves it put Markin dollars behind her they're like fine cool here's your division boom test positive but put put yourself in is it possible that she really did deal with some crazy weight cutting backlash where her body's just like up and it's retaining water in some weird way and her hormones are all up cuz she got on the birth control pill and it's possible that a doctor did prescribe her this to try to mitigate that and then the doctor told her that you could take this out of competition you can't take it in in competition cuz it is a diuretic right yeah so a diuretic if you are swollen all those things do seem to make sense I mean just trying to be I don't want I don't want to see any skeptical hippo face no I'm I'm with you on this Joe I no I I I I I actually believe her a story have you seen skeptical snake I

191:35yeah I sent skeptical I blew up skeptical snake someone sent me that went I have to post this where did you find it and the guy goes just for you sh pull off skeptical snake I went I I see your skeptical hippo and I raise you a super skeptical snake this snake is I might have seen it on your Instagram so skeptical have you seen it Eddie no check this should be your your mascot skep whenever you watch CNN this should pop up it's F news this is a new meme this is a new meme this that so skeptical he's like fake news son oh no pizza game I don't think so there needs to be a a a fake MMA side look at this oh look what you wrote look what you wrote pull it aside my face when I watch a UFC promo these days I see your skeptical and raise you a super skeptical snake that's exactly where I heard about it from that's because they're not showing Amanda Nunes it is kind of up but it's

192:34also you know like someone pointed out like when you're watching these promos they're movies now it's like this little film it's not like training footage people talking about it like this really slickly produced movie thing her story's great great oh Amanda nun has a story is great yeah first open League gay world champion freaking Brazilian I mean knockout artist highlight re highlight reels yeah smashes girl a word like she's the devil and then and then we they don't show any ronic Kos it's like that just it's like Men In Black where they just want to use and erase that from your memory they don't show any of that plenty of that video going around on its own everybody knows what happened it's not something you need to discuss I think they could have done it in that video and then shown the workout to the the return and it might be even more dramatic showing

193:19her crying showing her building back up picking up to Pieces again I mean that that I mean if you wanted to go deep you could that's going to be in the movie right if you have a Ronda Rousey life story movie that's got to be in the movie of course 100% if she comes back and wins I mean that's exactly what you're going to see you're going to see all the pain Ronda Rousey today right now I mean she is who she is right now what's going on right now is because what happened with Holly Holm you know this is her comeback this is it can't she pull off the comeback I mean but the only reason you comeback against who like I said the average Fan's going comeb back against who she's been the favorite in every fight she's ever been you mean they they've had a complete blackout of Amanda nunz like they haven't showed at all just blackout there very little footage that they're

194:03showing in these promos maybe you stop watching boxing and put it back on yeah cuz I don't see enough UFC on FS1 got it over there on boxing Network all even Joe tweeted about no I tweeted it while like I was watching it at home I was watch I was actually in the hotel room I was watching um that UFC on FOX where Michelle Waton beat uh Paige VanZant and I was watching like this is so bizarre they're not showing the champion they're showing this giant promo and it's all Ronda which makes some sense because ronda's huge and you want to let everybody know that she's coming back but don't you want to let everybody know that she's coming back against a killer don't you want everybody to know that she's coming back to fight the champion but Joe just just from a business aspect what in some weird world in MMA what if Amanda Nunes Merks her in the first round she is look

194:50no one knows her yeah this is one of them look one of them you see her face a great shot you just see her face but like most of the pieces about Rhonda but there's a few of these right there's a few different ones you do you know what I'm saying Joe what happens if she merch Ronda her knock out they showed her head kick look they show this is somebody else's trailer this is this isn't UFC fan created I'll try to find the real one it's okay you don't have to it's a big deal this is a lot longer than an actual promo too like how long is that video right there those two minutes yeah do you see what I'm saying Joe what happens if some in weird some weird MMA World aanda weird at all and then we're going do you think that's weird not at all no it's a real dangerous fight is acting like it they're putting all their chips in this basket where if Amanda Nunes does her

195:33thing and it happens people are going who the just W but Rhonda is uh a thousand times more popular popular than a Mana that's where the money's coming fromonda Mone but every okay you've already but hold on you're already establishing that ronda's fighting would you want everybody to know she's fighting a killer who's she fighting that's what we're tuning in for you want to see the match up all right they're selling it as if the whole thing that you're seeing is her coming back yeah but I'm saying in some in business one1 what happens if that other person wins we don't know about her UFC Channel this is it yeah there's just not much of it you don't see you see a bunch of different if she wins then they'll blow her up there's still time is like we have a deadline if she wins only can fight R Rousey once get this one opportunity maybe or if R gets M twice there's no

196:27rematch who knows but at least you know that's the girl that beat a she'll be just like Holly Holm instantly huge on on Ellen and all that Holly's in an interesting place too right cuz she was instantly huge and then she loses two in a row two straight yeah and she loses two to like two completely different styles she gets choked out by Misha against a better Grappler and then she gets uh checked a lot by Valentina shevchenko and Valentina just I would like to see that promo if it's possible Jamie the UFC one on the UFC YouTube I know it's YouTube but there's no Library it's not real bro it's not real on YouTube so here's her like in the top of her F where do you get your promos from AR baring people YouTube you get them from CNN we all know that smashing people so this is uh is this the same one or is this a different one this is the Holly fight here's Hol so this is

197:15going to show it in November what what happened there they they don't show it they cut it oh they go black and then you see Holly winning wow you see what she what my skeptical snake wow you got to like go down more your face has to be down more and he's all pointy actually like you see he's up right the progession of the belt you see the progression of the belt you see the progression of the belt but you don't see her getting head kicked that's crazy why would you not show the Highlight wow well what you're doing is you're showing preferential treatment for one athlete without a doubt and the idea is that the ability and the fame that she's reached you you show preferential treatment because she's different she's special she's different I agree she's different a massive star she is a massive star that's the that's the girl that's going to put the the asses in the seats right

198:02there man this is she's not bigger than Connor though think you're right but as far as women go she's the the Conor of the talking about Fighters I'm talking about Fighters oh yeah the the women's division is not even close no not even close there's no one like her there's no one like her but just cuz Conor sells more tickets doesn't mean and she's they they have multiple Stars multiple Elite stars and she's and here you see Amanda doing some workouts you know just lifting some weights her girlfriend's a straw weight in the UFC is she yeah World bantamweight champion Amanda Nunes and then you see some highlights so this one is showing more so this is a different one than the one where they roll up the one that they see on TV where they roll up the garage door and you see her hitting the PAAD yeah looks good though looks good doing that very interesting man very

198:49interesting who the knows who the knows I just know you're going to be watching everyone's going to be watching fu yeah it's going to be crazy man czy it's GNA be nuts it's GNA be crazy I think you're going be surprised by the ratings you don't think anybody's watching no I'm not saying that somebody no no no no no no look at that look at thatal snake I'm not a hater I'm hating on the promotional game plan I understand what you're saying understand what you're saying I'm just I I don't think you're going to see the same numbers of a Conor fight or something is any other big fights that are coming up that we should be aware of any other big fights what El what else is happening on theut what do you think about Tony khabib is that going to happen it's not it's not signed it's not happening they're talking about for the interim title I mean it's noten boy wants money but here's my question

199:39how the do you have an interim Champion that quick what is what's what's going on with that how do you uh that's what sells to uh that's what gets people to tune in his belts okay and so because of the fact that you're guaranteeing well also if you have khabib fight Connor in Russia and khabib has the belt Jesus Christ we need a Russian destroyer in the mix well he is a Russian Destroyer he's already he's he's guy he is it he's undefeated he's a Smasher but what a big opportunity for Tony if Tony Ferguson could steal that Thunder and if you see when Michael Johnson clipped him and hurt him that was a time we ever saw him hurt but Michael Johnson just does not have the same grappling ability that Tony F has no not close a different animal and also Tony Ferguson is a different kind of Striker too he's he's much more awkward and his movement is like real hard to

200:32time well they're both real good Michael Johnson's a very good Striker remember when he knocked knocked out Dustin poier they're both real good but the big difference is the amount of grappling ability Tony's grappling ability is did you see did you see Tony's tweet what did he say he he goes I'm down except the fight he goes obviously khabib you cuz khabib called him out goes where's the fight and Tony Tony said dude you made your deal and you're making bank I'm not scared of anyone I just want to get paid what I'm worth man I'm down to take the fight but I need to renegotiate my contract yeah you know what Tony said in between round one and round two you know he lost that first round Rafael do anos he landed some some good shots and you know we ran into the cage and you don't know exactly what's going on through his head any and uh that his striking coach Anthony's

201:19like telling him some and before I got to say anything he looks at me he goes coach I'm going to break his leg I'm going to kick the inside of it you know when he started kicking the inside of I'm like okay perfect that's what I want to hear he's like he's such a barbarian that's what he had to say is I'm gonna break his leg do you see do you see khabib looking at Dana murking that dude going oh Michael Johnson going I'm give me a title shot man just whooping his ass it's going to look different on the ground that'll look different on the ground Cu uh uh khabib make no mistake about it is a bear on the ground excellent Grappler Michael Johnson was making a lot of uh key errors on the ground arm positioning yeah he was uh he giving him that crucifix that crucifix he was giving it to he was hurt he was hurt did you see khabib versus uh dos Angel though and

202:09dos Angel is a legit black belill yeah he mauled him khabib Maul that again ma mauled him on the ground mauled him in a weird way where you watch him just smush a guy who a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt like he's hand like a blue belt or a purple belt tosing around like I think his grappling is as good as I've ever seen inside the Octagon he might not be the same submission stylist that a Damen Maya is but his pure ability to control guys take them down grapple them and Maul them is unprecedented his MMA grapping agree look at this when he gets a hold of you it's it's so undeniable like this kind of like he gets a hold of you bear hugs you and just like you're going down you are going to the ground and he holds you there and he beats the out of you when he has you there pressure is insane ins position his positioning his pressure his strength he's like Dam

203:00May without the submission more yeah ground and pound Damen but but better takedowns better takedowns way better Dam May's taking everyone down at7 wrestlers and everything John every no doubt about it but you got to give the edge off and the takedowns yeah think yeah I think so I give theed off over everybody I don't think except Ben asran Ben asran is like the only guy that you just go okay what the that's a fun fight oh Ben dude Ben asrin I feel like Ben's bigger but yeah Ben is uh 170 of course but he probably could make 155 who the knows they could could they do a catch rate 160 one one thing that Doos H didn't have that Tony's going to bring into this is college wrestling Tony's a really good wrestler it's going to be a lot harder to take Tony down than it is dosan Tony just a different he's he's a like a harder mindset he's a scary dude and more athletic

203:57whether he wins or whether he loses Tony is a scary guy to be in there with yeah very scary not that dos anos isn't but I think that Tony is like one notch scarier remember this is Dos anos like in his prime too when he got M before his prime honestly it was this was before he started making his real serious run he got molly whopped here and then khabib got injured and then dos sanos came back and he also started working with Nick kerson that was a big a big uh factor and his Improvement because his strength and conditioning got way better after this fight because he realized like holy I can't keep this vanilla Beast Yeti thing off me pressure Russian Destroyer man there's just these dagistan people man that hard that part of the world is tough and those dudes are on another level when it comes to like tenacity and aggression he's also been doing it since he was a kid and

204:49he's a world champion you know sombo yeah that and Russians aren't regular white people right we yeah we're not built the same yeah American White Russian white different their genetics are those are powerful people man and it's I mean you think about all the guys who came out of Russia that have been like ridiculous world champion caliber Fighters like f boxing system too remember remember e v chenkin yes Jesus Christ Jesus Christ he was you remember when he fought Francisco Bueno that a straight do sanos is hanging in there with him for a while but look at that boom look at that take down he's a monster you know there's video him wrestling a a actual Bear yeah when he's a little kid like like grappling a bear Edie pull up eagro V chanin Francisco Bueno KO V chanin we used to throw those casting punches you know what I'm talking about where we throw hammers hey with throw like it would

205:47whip them eigor vkin just give it a chance chin do you know how to spell it Eddie how do you VIN v chanin c h there it is just go with one of those chanin and then write MMA put e okay there he is V chansin versus Francisco Bueno Francisco Bueno in the uh it's one of the like the most vicious Kos ever watch this you never seen this before V chenin was another guy who's like maybe 5'8 5'9 at the most and was fighting heavy weights and just he looked like a guy who had longer arms but they saw the ends off do do you remember ego chion is he before your time is he before your time he's he's before I got really into yeah oh yeah dude look at that I mean that he was an early Russian Destroyer I know oh yeah one Russian dad B though look at the SK size of his thighs dude those were ridiculous thighs like his whole body was just like like this compact just explosive machine what do

207:00you think or ryen you think uh love it I love it we need more we need more yeah we need we need Pride right we need all that we need we need a bunch of organizations like that to emerge dude you see Heath hearings back yeah it's good he's filling in for shank car I'm I'm so sad the chains out but I'm happy to see that he is doing it again he I saw pictures of him with Roy atour 40 probably he hasn't fought since Lesnar remember when he remember Lesnar like steamrolled him knocked him over and knock yeah that was his last eight or 10 years ago 10 years ago long ass time yeah and then you got merco crocop versus Mo lawall who is uh cron fighting he's fighting in ryzen right cron is fighting kaaj Jeri that's a real fight right there that's a real fight dangerous on his Jer is a little old but still that's a first like test for cron for sure MMA yeah a real test right yeah

207:54that's a good fight damn if you get his back it's over though so you know they're doing it to the champion will be crowned they're doing those fights over three days so you win you fight the next night that's so crazy who's doing that ryzen tourn crazy yeah that's so crazy what weight heavyweight who's in the tournament Moola wal King Mo that crazy dude that that Amir alak kabari who's have you seen that guy yes he's terrifying yeah he's fighting at AKA right he's training out of AKA yeah Thailand with uh Mike swick oh is he they they tagged me in a picture of him there him and that Hulk guy you remember the Hulk in the UFC Simone Hulk MH so Pele yeah so and uh Pele and Mike swick are holding back and he's like they're like about to Unleash the Beast I oh God Jesus Christ you this dude is scary I think ryzen's awesome I think it's important I think there he is Jesus

208:47it's a big boy he looks like Gabriel Gonzaga and Shane Carwin had a kid yeah in redonkulous wrestling just a big ass this is that guy I remember that he's been training for a while right he's doing Rising he's in this tournament what's his name Amir Amir alari Ali alari Al Ali akbari Ali akbari they showed him in my powerful not not too good with the Striking is he Russian um he's right there on that border no sir he's not Russian what is his National uh he's Iranian is he he's Muslim as we go here yeah Iranian oh lot of uh strong wrestlers come out of Iran you know Iron Chic his thing's Greco which doesn't always translate to MMA but who's more synonymous with wrestling in Iran than the iron Chic none maybe nobody zero ever zero ever did you ever see that that uh I gave him a ride to the airport once and videotaped the whole thing and put it on YouTube you ever seen that

209:47it's like seven Parts me iron Chic and Danny loner were were um cuz he he his manager would take um you'd give him 200 bucks and you could hang out with the iron Chic in his hotel and just shoot the with them wow and so Danny says dude you want to go hang out with the iron Chic I said yes so we went and it turns out we were late and he needed he was going to the airport he goes you want to you want to just take us to the airport and we're like uh yeah we got him trapped in the car look at that that's him there oh that's it how old is he there he's a pretty old guy holy look like a wax figure yeah he um he came on stage with me at that uh pot Club in Toronto what yeah he uh came on stage he was in the audience and I brought him up on stage good you're damn right did jooga knows what is toughest sport in all of Olympics Freestyle Wrestling Greco Roman at tonight I met Joe Rogan and one

210:48of the toughest one of the bad men if he want to and I can shock tonight I saw him he do comedian and he lot of respect that was ridiculous it was ridiculous he the crowd know who he was oh yeah everybody knows who the iron Chic is I showed him that I named a move after him I had my book with me and I go look I called the move the iron Chic oh that's amazing he's he's hurting man his whole body is all up from all those years of pro wrestling like everything that too but I mean his knees are gone his hips are gone his back's gone he's like those wresters get up man yeah they do man nobody I don't think people appreciate the beating those guys take on their bod their schedule you know obviously rehearsed and all that stuff in reality behind the scenes he was the baddest dude and he was a real olymp he has an Olympic gold medal in wrestling so does Kurt Angle and uh

211:46and backstage he was the man everybody knew that he was running the show he well he was a definite like real wrestler yeah for sure you know there's a few of those guys that get into pro wrestling that are like Kurt Angle that are real legitimate gold medalists sh went down they they'd you up for real yeah yeah well it's you know like how about Brock like if the went down who's who's beating Brock good luck yeah good luck all you guys Kane Vasquez yeah Kane there's like three people on the planet yeah and also Kane at 240 you know when Brock is at 265 when when Brock is not under any sort of guidelines or restrictions he tends to be larger ask Maran about it yeah wow look at that the audience she damn he was jacked oh he was super jacked back in the day powerful mustache yeah he was a thick dude he also used to use those Iranian clubs those look at the go back to that picture look at the

212:43thighs on that dude Jesus Christ I mean he's just like one thick obliques powerful obliques yeah thick ass powerful dude but um watch see if you could find uh Irani um the iron um Indian club workout have you seen the documentary on the iron Chic no there's a documentary on him that just got released like maybe a year or two ago they're always sad it's awesome they're always sad though like the the Jake The Snake one's a bummer see those clubs this is a great it's a great documentary sad though it's this whole this whole story um you know it's not you're not going to start crying out watch how he does this this is these clubs check the out these clubs that he's using these are like traditional Indian clubs that they used to use to to work out they do these things called Shield casts that is very hard to do hell yeah and the way he's doing it he's like throwing

213:37those things around like they're nothing those are difficult to swing around I do that workout with a 25 lb Club it's that like it's that hard to do no he's a legit badass yeah 25b seems like it's nothing that like it seems like what the is that oh he called them Persian clubs that's what they're call them Persian clubs they well they used them in Persia as well in Iran but those were uh like an old school strength and conditioning U piece of equipment and you would get other people to try to do it and they just couldn't do it like some of them they would do them out of wood they would use like these big thick pieces of heavy wood with a handle in the bottom of them that was what they originally made out of of but now a lot of guys make them out of steel now so who's this guy Jack white boy taking the challenge oh he's doing it too precious Paul who is precious

214:25Paul God damn it precious Paul terrible precious Paul is going forward and back which is legit but the real way to do it is what's called a shield cast where you take your right hand and you go towards your left shoulder behind your back and then you control you bring it down in front of you in control do we have any of those here uh no we don't have any of those we have the mace but we don't have a club it's a awesome exercise for shoulder strength your shoulders better be in yeah good shape to do that you can't go with like really heavy weights right off the bat but obviously precious Paul oh he's getting jacked now seconds later he was like I just stupid precious I wear you out now I kick your chest precious p he's awesome man I just KN that iron cheek knows I'm alive made me happy that's pretty dope can can you still pay him $200 to chill and stuff four now 400

215:15bucks now is it for hundo it's five no it's that's a bummer man he keep talking it's going to get more yeah we had him in the car for like an hour just picking his brain makeing them leave messages on his phones just he was down he wasn't annoyed at all they were happy there got they got their money and a free ride to the airport where's he live I think somewhere in Minnesota maybe cold out there as if you got a bad hip there's some WWE guys killing it like Jessie Ventura's killing it he was a big time WWE guy had some injuries too man a lot of those guys are all busted up from that sport dude Jesse Venta is like 100% weed activist now oh yeah he just wrote a book on oh how nuts is that he was great he's all about the weed movement he lives Grid in Mexico or some yep and he uses weed um for he's got a bunch of ailments and his wife has some ailments too you know

216:09and she's using weed for it you know he suited the American Sniper guy in one American Sniper yeah Chris Kyle Chris Kyle Chris said he beat him up kind of punked him in a bar and he was like that never happened and sued him yeah he's um actually said he was going to consider running for president if Donald Trump won that's what he said on the podcast I wonder if he's still going to do it talking he's in the 70s Now isn't he he's in the 70s yeah and that's that's a hard job so Donald Trump yeah that's true yeah it's all very interesting man oh okay any other fights we need to talk about is that it did we get them all pull pull that Brandon thatch oh who's he fighting he hasn't fighting a while he's fighting a a price who's niik niiko price niiko niiko price how's that doing you're you're friends with him right yeah friends with him I talked to Lester Bolan this

216:57morning about him he he said it's the mo because that thing has always been dedication he said it's the most dedicated he's ever been to a fight so that's usually scary he's a super super talented guy oh and Tim Means is fighting Alex Oliva oh there's a sleeper dude how about how brought that fight about stun dun versus safine but hold on let's look at this fight Tim me is a bad and so is Ola Olivera's big though didn't he have a hard time making 170 in his last fight yeah what was was his last fight is when he got merked by Cowboy the real cowboy cuz he go he goes by Cowboy too no he I feel like he fought after oh that's right he won knocked the guy out but he was we overweight that's right he's huge like way overweight like for some reason he I mean I want to say he was several pounds overweight right that's a fun fight yeah Alex Garcia versus Mike pile

217:43Mike pile still hanging in there God talk to about the can we he's the Dirty Bird he's a bad too really skillful very smart guy when it comes to he's not young MMA RQ no he's in his 40s but he's in the Larry Holmes 40s you know like a legit 40s with usada you know legit 40s Terk safine and Dong young Kim that's interesting too St gun's been out for a minute yep he has and him versus Terk safine is very interesting when was the last uh time stung gun was in when was the last time dongy young Kim was fighting what was his last fight if you had a guess it wasn't the Woodley fight was it Woodley stopped him probably cuz he's taking a long see do is it Woodley nope last fight he won who did he fight there Dominic wat oh burkman Dominic Waters and Josh burkeman okay and then he lost to Woodley koed him two years ago he hasn't fought since 2015 yeah H John Hathaway what happened

218:39to him he was dealing with some injuries I think he had a lot of patan yeah a lot of potenti under uh under appreciated grappling ability for a big guy from the UK English fell that's right yeah but he uh he had some injuries I believe and didn't he have like some sort of an allergy or something too like maybe a food allergy or something like that that he was dealing with I don't know you don't see I think I remember like some kind of medical issue yeah yeah something that's a bummer yeah man hard ass sport um is that it is that it for that card anything else coming up that we need to talk about about before we get the up out this how many articles you think we wrote for the MMA media today a fake MMA News site they need to start on F they're all fake they have a lot of fake ones yeah people make up I walk out and it's almost like a blur I don't remember what I said Till I read some

219:33I'm like whoops oh dude I was just talking to my friends oh you kidding me I never watch that oh that those videos pop up like randomly I'm watching something else and that pops up and I'm like I don't want to watch that well on my show I do fan Quest be like remember that when you said this to Rogan I'm like I said that listen that's what the problem with like people like getting upset at something that people three people say whether you're just we're all racing we're all just darting in with and talking we're all high we're being ridiculous when you when you do stuff like that like you're going to say some that you probably shouldn't have said but you can't pretend that this is anything we thought out like a lot a lot of it is uh completely off the cuff and if you don't like that that's that's fine but if you do like it there's only one way to do it folks got to do it off

220:19the cuff like that and you're going to going to crack some eggs if you want to make an omelette it's true we'll make some omelets they're they're fake omelets though it's all fake oh and by the way Brian K's not it's not that he's not here because we don't love him he's busy he's uh on vacation that's all cuz people like oh you guys are cutting calling out no not at all but if he was here we would definitely have made fun of him and we definitely would have got called bullies so that's uh true and he would have made some facts up it's just what we do and we love him he's a crazy boy he's crazy he a fun fella but so he's out there on vacation so yeah he'll be back for the next one so uh we'll try to do one soon um there's some other ones coming up um that I'm not doing you know I know for sure we'll have to do that and if uh Ben Saunders is coming up against um uh

221:03Court McGee that's January 15th Sunday January 15th in Phoenix please I'll be there cornering so I would that's the BJ pen card what is it January what 15 15th a Sunday night yep oh interesting that' be fun oh I'm in man I'm in no conspiracy theories that one that's our next one I'll try Bri Brian saying why doesn't BJ just punch him with the right hand I'll tell you what BJ's fundamentals are just off yeah why doesn't he just hit him with the right hand all right folks that's it um fighter in the kid tfatk.com EDG bra Eddie Bravo on Twitter Eddie Bravo 10 on Instagram Brandon sha on Instagram 10th Planet jj. comom we're in Seattle Portland and Vancouver January um next ebi is on March we're aiming for March 5th aiming for it but old ones which you do want to watch are all available on Fight Pass go there and check out the last one with Gio Martinez W against

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