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Ari Shaffir (Part 2)

第211期2012-04-30English会员内容

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#211 - Ari Shaffir (Part 2)
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§01An intervention after the break

The second part opens with the participants back from a break, and one of them says the aim is to put Brian "in a better state of mind" because he feels "a lot of people are attacking" him. Brian agrees that he gets attacked "a lot nowadays." The other side insists, "we're not attacking you." They then return to a principle raised earlier in the episode: be so generous that nobody can question your motives.

be generous to a point where it's indefensible

Brian replies that his record already meets that standard. He says the point he was "screaming at Duncan" was how much he does for other comedians: "My free time is devoted to 100% of doing shit for free for other comics." That claim, that his work for comics goes unrecognized, drives his side of the whole segment.

§02Why money changes how comics see a show

The case against Brian's current setup starts with how comedians think about pay. One speaker notes that many clubs have long told comics they are "lucky to be getting the stage time," and that comics partly go along with this because "we don't respect ourselves." The speaker separates that attitude from the real value of what Brian has built, calling it "a beautiful thing" and saying "There's nothing wrong with it." The caution is narrower: when tickets are sold and money "is exchanging hands," comics who perform without pay get "super defensive and super sensitive."

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