Russell Peters

00:03Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY Hello, Russell. Hello, Joseph. Good to see you, my friend. How are you, pal? I'm [ __ ] great. [snorts] So, better now that you're here. I know. I I called you and I said, "Jo, I really want to do your podcast again." You said, "Sure." Anytime, buddy. I know. It was great. I was I was very happy. I thought you be like, "Oh, man." You know, I got so many people out here. Come on, Russell. You and I go back, my friends. I tell everybody I wear the watch you gave me every special and I have since 2014. Oh, really? I didn't know that detail. That's an interesting detail. You gave me a watch once. It was the most ridiculously generous thing ever. I was looking at your watch. I go, "That's a nice watch." You go, "You want it?" And you took it off and gave it to me.

00:56I'm like, "Jesus Christ." So, I've worn it every special ever. I've tried I've tried that with you. I was like, "Joe, that's a really nice Porsche." "Yeah, it is." And you walked away. [laughter] Oh, it's a ploy. I see how it works. Well, it never worked. It never worked. So, I took your advice and I started my podcast. I heard. Yes. Well, how how many have you done so far? Uh, I think I've done them maybe eight or nine, maybe. Are you enjoying it? I'm having a good time with it. You know, why'd you wait so long? I don't [laughter] know. I I really don't. I it really wasn't until your prompting that I started to look into it and then you said you'd be my first guest, but I was like, let's let me get some people under my belt first. Get rolling. Yeah, let me getfortable. Yeah, that's like, you know, becoming a white belt and go, hey, let me roll with you.

01:40You're like, no, don't do that. [laughter] Are you Do you have a studio at your house? Like, where do you have your studio? There's no studio. I just do it in my backyard. Oh, nice. Like I have like a little porch area with with a humidor and then we sit around like this. We smoke cigars. We have some drinks. And I like outdoor uh podcasts. Anthony Kumio used to do his in his backyard. That was by force, not by choice. [laughter] Well, when he left uh New York, when he left Opie and Anthony when he went back to Long Island and uh and built his little uh the compound. His compound. Yeah. But he used to do it just like sitting out by the pool. Yeah. The pool's right there. And you know, you'll hear planes go by and stuff. It's nice. But it's like this. It's just conversation. It's just hanging out. I took a page out of your book. I was like, people like, "What's

02:26it going to be about?" I go, "I just want you to hear my me and my friends hanging out and talking. I want, you know, a little fly on the wall business there." Yeah. That's all it needs to be. This idea that it needs to be something [snorts] very specific. Like, what are you going to talk about? Like, you need an angle. You need a hook. Yeah. I'm like, there's there's no like I I go I'm gonna have a tough time [ __ ] sticking to that script. Yeah. Well, uh I don't know the the some some people do like Ari has a theme for most of his podcasts. Ari is a very themed thematic guy. Yeah. Even [snorts] when he came up with the TV shows, you know, he would always have a theme. And when he would have those shows at the store, okay, we're going to do this night. Do you have a blah blah blah story for that? And I'm like, you know, which is good.

03:10Uh and and uh you know, it it challenges the guest a little bit. Yeah. Which is nice, but Well, that's how he came up with his show. He came up with the idea for a show when he was um he was just trying to figure out ways to work on bits that are storytelling form. So he said, "You know what I'll do? I'll just do a whole storytelling show where you don't do your act. You just tell a story." Right. And then he set it up in the lab, the old lab before it became that weird lab in the improv. Oh yeah. Yeah. On Melrose there. Yeah. Then he started doing it there and then um next thing you know it was a [ __ ] Comedy Central show. I know. I did a couple of those. the uh This is not happening. I did this is not happening. But then he had the other ones that he would do live before he was recording them. Yeah. What did he call those? Um

03:53were those called This is not happening as well. No, one of I think one variation of it was but the earlier ones were some sort of like road stories or whatever. I can't even remember why he stopped doing the show now. I think it was because that that little uh episode happened with uh when uh who died. No, it was before that. Was before that. Yeah, somebody else died. I think they canled him basically and then they replaced him with somebody else. I'm trying to remember what it was. God, I can't remember. They [ __ ] with Ari a lot. Well, Ari is a wild man. He's Ari legit wild. He's a beautiful person. Love him to death. If you know him, he's a great guy. He's a great guy. I love him. I love him to death. But he's a wild man. But that's why he's a great comic. He's wild, you know? Like there's a lot of great comics that are wild. We just got

04:48to be more forgiving with those people. They don't mean to be bad. Yeah. You got to understand people is what it is. You got to like I always say it's about the intent, you know? It's not It's not what they're saying or look at the intent. Look at see if see if there's something if they're actually being diabolical or if they're just right. They're just not thinking. Yeah. Well, there's like a lot of impulsiveness involved in some folks in our business, you know, and sometimes they think it's a good idea and you want to call them up, you know, right before they do it and catch them, but usually you don't. Yeah. It goes out and then you go, "Hey, no." It's like a social media post, you know, in the moment you're like, "This is what I'm [ __ ] feeling and I'm going to put this out there." And I've been guilty of it and I've

05:33and I've stopped myself from it too at the same time, you know? Yeah. There's a lot of uh comics that like social media is not a healthy thing for them. It's it's just too there's too too much of a minefield, you know, too fraught with peril. Yeah. And that's the thing. I'm always careful about what I'm posting. Like I have, you know, I have this company that cuts my bits together for me and subtitles them and then they'll send it to me. I won't I don't know what they're going to send me because it's always like crowdwork stuff that they're sending because I don't want to burn material, right? And uh and I'm like, "Fuck, that's funny." But I know that this one line in there is going to cause a [ __ ] [ __ ] storm of people to be like, "What's wrong with you? You can't." And I'm like, "You're missing the [ __ ] point, pal."

06:15Dude, I watched Step Brothers the other day. You could not make that movie today. You could not make it. And it was so good. You can't make a lot of things that we made 5 years ago today. You can you imagine if they tried to make Star Wars Day? But by the way, here's a question. When was the last time you saw a really good funny movie? Like a recent funny movie? We have not. We have not. They don't exist. It's It's hard because they're trying to incorporate too much. Well, you're trying to be woke. You're trying to apply these rules that are created by these people that just want to kind of control people's ability to express themselves. Well, they want you to show this world that matches their imaginary world. You're like, "But that's not my world." Not only that, it's like, come on, man. You do you really get offended when you

07:01watch Step Brothers? Does that offend you? If you got offended by step brothers, you've got issues. That's why I don't feel like the people that are getting offended have their own things that they're dealing with. Yeah. And they just need somebody to blame. Well, they're just deciding what people can and can't say and don't, you know, whatever they think is nonacceptable now in this new world of just calling out everybody for everything. I think about my act when I started like 32 years ago and I'm like, "Holy [ __ ] Jesus. What the [ __ ] was wrong with me?" So many problems. So problematic. Hey, uh did you watch the Canelo fight this weekend? I was working. You didn't see it at all? I saw the highlights. Jesus, he broke his face, bro. He hits so hard. Broke that orbital bone. He's one of those guys that like, you

07:48know, some guys just have power, right? But he works on it all the time. That's what I say. He's the most im every fight he's the most improved fighter. He always goes back and fixes anything he saw wrong. Yep. Well, the Danny Jacobs fight, remember his head movement? Yep. I mean, it gave Danny problems. It would give anybody problems, but it was also like he was showing his head movement in that fight. Yeah, cuz they used to say he just walked right in and then he fixed it. There was a video there's a video of Deontay Wilder uh yesterday. I saw it and he's looking really good. Malik Malik Scott King is training him now. What is he doing with him? Oh, he looks like a completely different fighter. I think if you could find that Oh, is he like using a lot of jabs? Is that video? and planting his feet and he looks like a boxer now. He doesn't look

08:32like a wild man just leaping off his feet and throwing these wild punches. Looks and I'm excited to see him fight now because he looked really sharp. Look like a real boxer now. Don't you think he needs uh a few fights like that with lower lower tier competition? Look at that. Yeah, look at that. Sitting on him. Bam. The jab is very important, but he's he's going to need some, you know, some tuneup fights. Don't you think he should definitely have a just to see how that style works in the ring. But he's moving. You see the way he's moving? He never moved like that. But again, he's a guy that has [ __ ] preposterous power. Yeah. Isn't it power is so weird? You know, it is cuz he's so thin you're like, where's it coming from? Well, Tommy Hearns. Yeah. Well, Tommy Yeah. Tom Tommy Hearns had he knocked Roberto Duran out cold. The only guy ever second round.

09:19There's just guys that just have preposterous power. And Canelo is a guy that has power but is constantly working on it. There's a great clip of him working with uh Andy Ruiz and they're uh you know that that shield that weird hand shield that they hold up when you hold which for hooks and he's like this is not for speed this is just power just power he's like don't don't try to be fast with this just power and you see him just everything [clears throat] is and so in that fight with Billy Joe when Billy Joe kept doing that that same lean over and over like after he would punch he would lean out of the way and he just timed it perfectly with that uppercut. Yep. And threw everything in it. Yeah, that's the thing. He He really watches you in a fight. He's not like some some knucklehead who knows how to He really pays. He's very aware. And to me,

10:08I was never a Canelo guy before, but after the past five fights, I was like, you know what? If I'm not a Canelo fan now, I'm a [ __ ] hater. But I am a fan now because I really appreciate his work ethic, you know, the way he [ __ ] Look at that guy. Yeah. This see it's about power. Yeah. See, this is this is the thing they're working on. They just and he'll do that over and over and over again. So, he's a guy who already had big power, but he's constantly working and developing that power. So, like in a fight like the Saunders fight, there was massive consequences to anything that Saunders did. Did you see? How about that fight? I watched the Chris Areola fight. Chris Areola cracked him. He did a few times. He had him on Queer Street a couple times. Yeah. Are you allowed to say queer street? Yes, you can stay. It's an odd street. It

10:56is an odd street. Well, queer is not even It's not derogatory. Like queer is a distinction. Like it's a part of LGBTQ. Yeah. Queer. It's okay. Which is interesting, right? Cuz queer used to be derogatory. My dad used to use that as a derogatory term to me. I'd wear like I came on a pink shirt. My god, have you become queer? And I'm like, what? [laughter] Your father's act. That's amazing. Does he really talk like that? He used to talk like have you become queer? And I'm [laughter] like, "What?" My dad used the my dad would use the like he was he was an English major, so he would always pick these words. I would make it go, "What the fuck?" [laughter] My like my brother would like my we all lived in the same house obviously growing up and my brother was a bigger guy. And then my dad would be in we we had breakfast in the next morning. My

11:44dad like, "Cllayton, what time did you come in last night?" My brother's like, "You know, 2:30." And he's like, "I know. Oh, I heard you lumbering around like a bloody elephant upstairs. Bloody lumbering. Lumbering around like a bloody elephant. That's the thing about Canadians. You've you've adopted Canadians have adopted some of the vernacular of the Englishman. Well, my dad grew up in India under British rule. So, and we're mixed. So, but I knew a girl from Canada and she used to say she was going to the Lou. Oh, she was just trying to be special. Oh, you think so? I don't like when people say cheers either. All right. Cheers, pal. You don't like cheers? No. No. when they're saying thank you, you know, oh, cheers, man. Thanks. Oh. Oh, right. Not like cheers for Cheers for the drink. But hey, cheers, mate. Cheers for the cigar. No, [ __ ] Thank you.

12:28Oh, right. Right. I see what you're saying. Yeah. The term cheers for like a thank you bothers me. Yeah. Cheers. Because it's like, are you really going to [ __ ] cheer? Hey, Joe gave me a cigar. Hooray. [laughter] Well, it's it's like aloha. It's got a lot of names. This bothers me. Unless Unless you're Hawaiian, this bothers me. Does it? It bothers the [ __ ] out of me. You better not surf. I know. People that take pictures with me like the surfers love that [ __ ] I get it for them and and Hawaiians. I get it. But like random dudes are like jiu-jitsu guys like that too. Bothers me. Oh, that's where it bothers you. Yeah. I'm like, what are you doing? Listen, you're a part of the culture now. You got to adopt a lot of jiu-jitsu weirdness. I know. And I I don't say o us. Yeah. Even John, I ask him about it. He

13:13goes, "Ah, it's stupid. [laughter] Don't we don't use that. Well, it's a it's really not um a jiu-jitsu thing as much as it was more of a karate thing. US was a karate thing, but it's like a respect thing. I remember the key eyes. Oh, Kis when you throw punches, but O is like you say it like it's almost like kind of tongue and cheek when most guys do it. O, but they they're serious. You know, they're saying respect. It's like saying respect. Respect. I don't I don't know how to use it, so I don't bother with it. And I'll use poha because that's, you know, you hear that all the time. You know, pa is a lot of things. It's calm. It's nuts. I believe I mentioned it on the last time I was on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They all do it. They all say Brazilians love to say poha. Brazilian is a Portuguese from Brazil is such a beautiful language cuz

14:03It's got like a sing song. Yeah. But if you hear the Portuguese from Portugal talk, it's it's like they're very different accent. Oh, I don't even know what it sounds like over in Portugal. Yeah, cuz when I hear like, you know, the guys in the jiu-jitsu world speaking and you hear them talking, they're always laughing and making jokes and, you know, they're making jokes and breaking each other's balls, but you know what they're saying? Oh, I was listening to Henzo. Uh, Henzo Gracie has a clip on his Instagram yesterday. He posted something in all Portuguese. All Portuguese. And I'm I'm just like I just like hearing it. Play it. just get cuz Henzo's got like the perfect Portuguese. Henzo has that accent that that that pitch he hits with. He's a [ __ ] worldwide I would say national treasure but he's Brazil's so he's a worldwide treasure.

14:50Yeah, he's a worldwide treasure for He's looking at pictures on the wall of That's the famous mats of New York City. It's a beautiful language. It's beautiful. When he does it, it sounds I don't know. He sounds like he's just talking [ __ ] to you, doesn't it? He might be because of the look in Henzo's face the whole time. He probably is talking [ __ ] to you. One of my favorite Henzo stories was Henzo live streamed him beating these dudes asses who are following him around trying to mug him. Oh, I remember that. [laughter] I remember that. These poor [ __ ] They decided they were going to mug Henzo. Like what a [ __ ] And he like took pictures of his knuckles after he beat their asses and it was like what a great day. That was in New York City, right? Yes. Yes, I remember that. It was This was pre- pandemic when New

16:06York City was slightly more safe. Like quite a bit more safe, actually. It's it's it's pretty sketchy now. I've trained with Hal a couple of times. Hal's a dangerous man. Oh man, Hal shows me dirty moves. Oh, he's a mean dude. Yeah, he's a great guy, but he and he'll be like, "Okay, show me show me what you know." And I'm like, I'm scared of you, Hal. I'm not [ __ ] I'm not smashing you. I'm I'm rolling real light. And he's like, you need to go back to the basics. I'm like, no, I just don't want to [ __ ] I don't want to feel what you're going to do to me if I if I put my pressure on you. How How often are you training these days? Not as much as I want to. What do you want to? I want to train three times a week for What have you been doing? Like one or two? Yeah, once. Lately, it's been like once a month.

16:46Are you doing other stuff? Do you Do you have like a personal trainer or anything like No, I just got my u yoga ball and some dumbbells. Dude, get a personal trainer. Get someone who you're accountable to. So, you have to show up. You know, they show up at your house. Like, if all you need is a yoga ball and some dumbbells. I mean, get a good trainer. That's You don't need a lot of equipment. Yeah. Get someone who like makes you do stuff. Yeah. I just want a jits. I I like otherwise I I have no time right now. It's like I get my kid I finally got my kid back. So, there's a lot of people that are rewinding this going, "Did he say he wants a jizz?" What did he say? I want to pull haul over the place. I just want to jizz. I just want a jizz. That's just want to jits. You just like doing jiu-jits. So you got your kid back? I got my kid back. Yeah, finally.

17:26Well, I got him, you know, I got him, you know, eight hours a day. Every day. Not every day. A lot of days. Couple of times. Couple times. How long were you guys separated? Uh, it's it goes back and forth, you know. You guys working it out though? I mean, the courts are working it out, buddy. You know how this this system is not a good system is all I'm saying. My brother, I know. I can't blame anybody but myself. So, I'll take all [clears throat] accountability on this. That's good. I know. But good to hear you're at least you're get to see your son. Yeah. And I'm in a better place than when I was last July when I saw you. That's good. Yeah. It was dark then. It was dark. It was dark. Worried about you. It was a little dark time for me. Yeah, it seemed like it was. Yeah. You saved me. How did I save you? I don't know. You just just being you

18:11and then I got a great girl now, you know. Oh, that's good. She's awesome. Nice. Look at you. Yeah. See, things are coming up roses now. You're always lucky. You're always You always No, this time I really got I really got lucky this one. This time this this chick literally saved my life, I would say. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, I love to hear that. Yeah, it's a good thing. I finally, you know, I got your match, you know. You know, you got your match. I found my match. Yeah, you got your match. Yeah, that's that's a lot of life, man. Finding compatible people, both friends and lovers, you know, everything across the board. Even business people, you know, I know a lot of people that they have a bad manager, a bad agent, bad, you know, like if you're lucky, you find all sorts of the right people. Yeah. I mean, it takes something to

18:53happen for you to realize you're in a [ __ ] up place, too, you know? Yeah. You know, that pandemic kicked my ass. I got to be honest, that [ __ ] kicked my ass. Well, I mean, out of nowhere, all of a sudden, you don't make any money. Yeah. And then you realize how much you were spending. And then your accountant goes, "Hey, fuckhead." Yeah. Can't live like that. I go, "Oh, I mean, I knew I couldn't live like that then, but now I really can't live like that." Well, lucky for you, you had property. You sold some property. Yeah. Get your head above water. But it would have been nice. Just tread. Just tread, buddy. But have been nice if you had that podcast already going, right? Oh, yeah. See, that's what I've been trying to tell all these comics. Like, listen, I know like comics don't like to work. They like to [ __ ] off. But

19:32we're lazy. That's why we do what we do. Yeah. We're lazy. We're impulsive, you know? And people whenever people try to say that I'm disciplined, I always go, "Listen, I'm the [ __ ] laziest disciplined person you'll ever meet in your life. I get things done, but I don't want to." I mean, I it's not like I get up every day and I'm like, "Yes, here we go." What time do you wake up? Early. And you go to bed late. Yeah. But I get up I always say goodbye to my kids in the morning. And um lately I've been doing hyperbaric chamber sessions. Really? Yeah. I didn't want to talk about it until I know whether or not this is legit and and I don't know I don't know whether or not it's Wasn't Michael Jackson doing that at one point? No, he maybe Yeah, before he was doing the propile he was doing hyperaric chambers. That's right. Yeah, you're right. You're

20:20right. He was It's uh supposed to uh lengthen your telomeres. There was a study out of Israel where they they did 60 sessions over 90 days. And one measure of biological health and age is the length of your telomeres. What are your telomeirs? Your telomeirs it's I'll I'll butcher it. So there there's Michael Jackson. That's the old school one with a walkie-talkie on it. Yeah, that's a weird one, right? Because it's all glass. The one that's just what is it? Just high oxygen. It is. Uh, yes. Here. Well, let's go to telomeirs first. Google Google the the term telomeirs because I don't want to [ __ ] it up, but it's it it's it has something to do, I believe, with your mitochondria and it the length of your telomeres indicates it's you're it's an indication of health and of biological age. Although the biological age aspect of it is disputed,

21:16but people like David Sinclair think it's a good indication of your biological age. He's uh he's been on the podcast a couple times before. He's a professor at Harvard and he studies in most of his study is in anti-aging. Yeah, but go to telomeirs, please. Just Oh, that's how you spell telomeirs. Yeah, but I mean I wanted to know the the uh definition. I had it all wrong in my head. [cough and clears throat] Just just telomeirs just so I could figure out how to say it. Okay. It's the end of a chromosome. Telmirs are made of repetitive sequences of non-oding DNA that protect the chromosomes from damage. Each time a cell divides, the telomeir becomes shorter. Eventually, the telomeirs become so short the cell can no longer divide. So this is as you get older, your telomeirs become shorter. And now Google telomeres hyperbaric, the thing

22:07that you had already. And what this is for the first time hyperbaric oxygen therapy proven to reverse biological aging in humans. Does that look like the ones you're doing? No, I don't know what these people are doing. Are you doing chamber? Yeah, I'm in a I'm in a [ __ ] metal tube. Do you have one at the house? No. No, but I'm going to get one. I know you're that guy. Yeah, because you had the you know the isolation. I'm getting one in here. Yeah, we'll have [snorts] one in here soon with the salt water. Yes. I remember when you had it in your house when you when I first started doing your podcast like 11 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. You showed it to me. Yeah. Yeah. People think it's creepy. It's like uh Yeah, because it is a very It's odd. It is odd. It looks like a meat locker. Yeah. Yeah. Especially the one that the float tank.

22:48That's the one I'm talking about. The float lab. That's the one you had. The float lab is uh they make the best ones. They make these [ __ ] like super highend. Crash down in uh Venice makes the most overly engineered float tanks. They're so like like he uses What do they go for? I don't know. You have to ask him. I'm not sure. It's not cheap. No, I didn't. They're like 20 grand plus. Oh, yeah. No, forget. But it's got like um ozone to filter out the water from bad bacteria and kill, you know, any funk that might be in there. Although, the only person who goes in mine is me. You don't have to have one like that, though. You can get one that's fairly cheap. The first one I ever got was a Samati. I don't even know if they make those anymore, but that was just a few grand. That was like I think it was three grand or something like

23:34that, but it's much less engineered than these Float Lab ones. These float lab ones are like super high-end. It's like the Porsche design one. Yeah. It's like he just goes He's a mad scientist. Crashes. He's been on the podcast before. He's a a wacky cat, but he uh he's the guy who really like float tanks for a long time were a dying thing. No one was using them. When when when did you discover it? Because I know you had it 11 years ago when I I first discovered it earlier than that. I discovered it I think in the early late 90s maybe I think the first time I did one and then I got one in like 2002 somewhere around then 2002 2003 I got one in my house and then um I got uh I had a friend who was uh servicing my float tank and he told me about the float lab he's like this one is okay he goes but it's kind of the way it's made is not the best

24:31he's like there's a guy in Venice that's makes these insanely ly engineered ones. And he showed me some photos of it. He said, "You really be better off getting one of these because they just they're you're going to have less problems." Cuz one of the problems I had was my heating element had burned through my uh liner. Something had shorted out. Oh wow. And it burned through the liner and so it flooded the inside of the tank and the like it went through the liner into the base of the tank and it [ __ ] everything up. And so he had to drain it and fix it and do all this stuff. He's like, "This is not the best engineered one. you really need to get like a better one if you want to have the best experience. It was just way better in terms of like sound insulation and the float lab ones are just they're incredible. There's

25:12long How long do you sit in them for? I like two hours. Two hours. Two hours is what I like. Is But you're a little extreme. So what's what's the average? An hour. An hour is the average person. I see you posting those sauna ones, too, where you're sitting in the uh Yeah, I like that, too. [clears throat] What you at? What are you at now? I like 185, but it really goes up to 200. Yeah, it's at 200 though. It's weird. It's like it it's the way those things work on is it depends on where you're at. Like uh if I'm sitting at the top bench, my head is in 200, but if I lay down in the bottom bench, I'm really at like 185, you know? So, it's How long you sitting in that for now? 25 minutes. And sweating your ass off. Sweat my ass off. Yeah. But it's like my problem is when I get into a song, I get bored as [ __ ] Yeah. I listen to books. See, I'm afraid

26:00my phone's going to overheat or whatever I'm listening to. Don't use Don't use your phone. I use AirPods. AirPods don't overheat for whatever reason. I figured this out a lot. So, you leave the phone outside. I have AirPods specifically for use in the sauna. Mhm. Cuz uh I have like my one that I use when I'm talking on the phone that I never take in the sauna because the sweat gets into these things and it completely [ __ ] up the microphone. So, if I try to call people, they're like, "Where the [ __ ] are you? Sound like you're underwater. Hey, Russell, how are you doing?" It's It [ __ ] up whatever the microphone is, like the soaking of the sweat. So, these are just for listening. Yeah. I only have I have a one pair that I wear just when I'm inside the sauna, and they don't burn out. So, you can

26:39listen to books. So, I'm listening to this book on Cababesa Devaka, who's a uh Spanish Yeah. He's a Spanish uh uh explorer that landed in North America in the 1500s and walked across the country. It's a crazy. You ever want to complain about the weather? You ever want to complain about your life? Oh, [ __ ] COVID kicked my ass. Listen to me. Read this [ __ ] book. It's called A Land So Strange. It's amazing. My friend Hank uh told me about it. He's uh the security guy at um Kill Tony. Big giant Native American guy with the hat on. Yeah, I met him last night. Great guy. Uh Hank told me about uh this book and he was raving about it and boy was he right. It's amazing. So, are these um are the stories told from notes he left? Yes, notes he left and then you know him telling a story back home when he got when he eventually uh got rescued or

27:35made it back to Spain which I believe happened. I don't know cuz where did he land? They landed in modern day they landed in Florida. Okay. And they made their way across Florida and then they got to the Gulf of Mexico. They did all this with rafts. They they sailed like I don't know how many [ __ ] miles in rafts and then they got attacked multiple times by Indians when they would get to shore and some Indians took care of them and some Indians attacked them and killed them and what a [ __ ] harrowing journey man. I mean I'm on chapter I think I'm on chapter eight now and so far they've been at it for 10 I think he's been in America for 10 years at this point or close to it. How many people? Six years, seven years. Well, they got down to four. Started with, spoiler alert, 400. Everybody died except four dudes. Wow.

28:32It's [ __ ] crazy, dude. It is a crazy story. And it also details like what it was like in North America in that time, like the Mayan civilization, the Aztecs, the Native Americans. It's it's amazing. I love stories about like the like what it was like hundreds and hundreds of years ago because in the in the if you look at the world terms of like the hundreds of millions of years that people or that um rather hundreds of millions of years that life has been here on Earth and then look at the amount of years that people been here. We've only been here like 300,000 years, 400,000 years, whatever it's been. Then you go like 500 years ago, which is what this is. That's nothing. That's nothing. It's a blink of an eye. But my god, it's so different in every way. I mean, you look at 100 years ago and it's so different. Yeah. It's crazy. But this is this is

29:23really wild, man. Like, our civilization itself has leaps and bounds. Like, it's almost puzzling that we never [ __ ] came across any of this stuff 500 years ago. Like, we never thought about doing any of these things. Well, we didn't have safety. See, this is the thing that humans need to innovate. They need safety, right? They need quiet and they need like peace. You can't be like fighting off catapults with [ __ ] flaming bodies headed your way like the Mongols were doing or you know when you're fighting wars constantly and you're constantly being invaded and you're worried about people raping your women and stealing your food, there's no innovation. You're not going to get anything done. It's like when things get safe. But they still had like their medicine men and I'm sure they had like their at the you know what would be the

30:13tech people of the time that they would you know these would be the warriors that would go out and do that and then they would protect these people to you know to innovate the village or whatever. There was no innovation. [clears throat] I mean [snorts] all the the medicine men like what were they knew some herbs and some plants and some things that were good for you but for the most part you're [ __ ] Yeah. You got sick you're [ __ ] If you break your leg you're [ __ ] You know most of the time you're [ __ ] A lot of it was you're [ __ ] We went back to being [ __ ] again somehow. Nah, barely. We barely did. But I mean, this is these the trend of moving towards good things has good aspects and bad aspects, right? And the bad aspects is you could not make a movie like Step

30:53Brothers anymore. [laughter] Things people are trying to make things so safe. We evolved to devolve. Yeah, we got a little crazy. Yeah. Hopefully this all goes away. I have problems with it, you know. I have problems with it. It'll balance out a little bit. It will because there's there's this really weird balance of uh of being told to be tolerant while the people Yeah. Yeah. It's a very [ __ ] I don't understand. But you want me to tolerate you, but you you're not going to tolerate Yeah. my adjustment time. Well, the the compassionate people are the biggest bullies online. It's like Yeah. Well, it's fake compassion, right? Well, it's they they think they're doing the right thing. They think they're doing the right thing. They really do. They think they're doing the right thing and they think they're fighting against oppression and bigotry and all these

31:44other things. And in their mind, that's that's that's the quest. That's what they're doing. Yeah. I was walking around Austin yesterday and uh there's a ACLU booth in the middle of nowhere on Congress. Mhm. And uh it's a black dude standing there and he sees me and he goes, "Hey, uh you're that guy." And I go, "Hey, you're that black guy." And there was two white girls with him and they were like, "Oh my god, did he just call you a black guy?" And I'm like, "Do do you think I'm the [ __ ] guy that broke the news to him?" [laughter] I go, "He knows?" Well, not only that, if he knows you, he knows so much of your material is racial. Well, I just, you know, I I when I meet people, I like to talk to them on their level. You know, I'm not going to come here and say, "Joe, there's this new Rain DJ system." and you're going to be

32:27like, "Okay." You know, you want to talk to people on a level where you want to I want to let them know I recognize this about you and then we'll go from there. Well, your comedy is that like your comedy is like pointing out racial differences, but ultimately bringing everybody together through humor. If he knows who you are, he knows that's what you do. It's always Yeah. Cuz it's always friendly and warm-hearted and it's it's it's playful. It's all playful fun. Yeah. You know, but like I've seen you get yelled at before about this like online people get upset at you for your comedy. It's like come on, man. You don't have to listen. You don't have to watch it. But obviously the [ __ ] arena's packed. People are enjoying this. There's a there's definitely a group of people that don't agree with you. They're not wrong.

33:15I I I always say the people that want to cancel you aren't the people that were ever going to buy a ticket to see you. Yeah. Exactly. So, I'm not really worried about appeasing them. when I want to keep my constituents uh you know happy. Exactly. Yeah. It's you know people can just decide that what you do is no longer appropriate but but to to you it was never appropriate to you. You didn't like it in the first place. There was never a time you were going to enjoy me and if there was then you're you know it's a [ __ ] odd time. It's a weird time Russell but it's also weird time for them. It's like they you know they're they're getting sucked into these ideologies too. They're getting sucked into all this group think and there's so little like real one- on-one interaction when it comes to these kind of ideas and talking about things and

33:59what's appropriate, what's not appropriate. That's what the problem is. There needs to be more conversations happening. Mhm. Yeah. Like if I have questions about I have a trans friend and I ask her questions all the time that if you if you didn't know her and I were friends, you would be like, "Are you attacking this person?" I'm like, "No, I'm asking [ __ ] questions so I can get some clarity so I understand the situation better." Yeah. It's funny that like there's some things you can make fun of and it's okay. And everyone knows that you don't mean anything bad by it. You're just making fun. There's certain things you can make fun of. Well, yeah. When you're friends, you know what I mean? So, when once you're friends with somebody, you you enter this other world of ball breaking. Yeah. And you know, if you don't know the

34:42person, you're attacking them. I'm like, "No, it's ball breaking. I would never attack this person. They're my friend." Well, it's weird too to me that like the the Trump administration during the time that Trump was president, it really showed some hypocritical thinking by a lot of people because one of the things you're never supposed to attack is someone's body. You're not supposed to body shame, right? But what's the thing they always attack? He's got a little hands. Probably got a little dick. Look at his [ __ ] up hair. Look how fat he is. Like it was all body shaming. Yeah. Remember when the doctor said he's perfectly healthy? I was like, "No, he's not. Look at him." Like, who are you to [ __ ] tell? You know what I mean? I didn't believe that doctor either, [clears throat] though. I didn't believe that doctor either.

35:18That doctor's full of [ __ ] That doctor's like got one eye looking that way. The [ __ ] are you saying? The version of him that I saw. [laughter] Yeah. Like, what are you saying? He's perfectly healthy compared to what? Like, if he's going to be in the Olympics, like what are [laughter] you saying? How could he be perfectly healthy? He's never worked out a day in his life. He's nothing but cheeseburgers and speed and he's 75 years old. Get the [ __ ] out of here. He's not healthy. He's alive though. Yeah. Well, [laughter] you know, same with Joe Biden. You know, when I watch him talk even, I'm like, "Oh, come on, Joey." Well, that's the weirdest one when people try to defend that. They try to say there's nothing wrong with them. They've kind of abandoned that now. Yeah. Because it's becoming more and more apparent. Well, it's worse.

35:58Yeah. It's the stress of the job is intolerable for anybody. If you if you got a 35year-old super healthy person in that job in a year or two that they would be a much more broken down version of themselves. It's just an impossible job. If you think kids will age you, right, become the president of the United States and watch. Look at Obama. His hair started black. He finished it was white. You know, it's it's the same thing. Bush, too. If you look at Bush early in office, then look at him late in office. I mean, it's not a real four years or eight years that he's aging. Oh yeah, it's like decades. Decades. I wonder I wonder what his telomeirs are saying after that. Short as [ __ ] I'm short. [laughter] Dying like like Trump's dick. Get it? His little little telmir [laughter] hands. There's no way. There's no way you could

36:47do that job. Nobody could do that job. Everybody gets beaten down. And everyone's like, "If I was I'm" I'm like, "Go for it, stupid. Go for it. I want to see how long you last." The thing is Trump seemed to handle it ironically better than anybody that's ever done it. like he seemed to age the least amount in that during that time in office and he was the most embattled. It's true. I'll give you that for sure. It's true. Whether you're a supporter or not and I constantly get accused of being a Trump supporter. I never I did not vote for him. I'm not a Trump supporter. Not not I know I know you to be that. So it's crazy that people keep accusing me of it. I I like when I watch people accuse you of things I know you're not. And I just sit there and I giggle. My favorite is he's a racist. I'm like, "Oh, he's terrible at it if he is." I'm a a horrible racist.

37:29He's the worst racist I've ever met in my life. You really got to work on this racist thing, Joe. It's a lot of work. Yeah. [clears throat] It's uh there's too many cool people on the other side. You'd have to ignore so much. Yeah. If you if you really wanted to be a racist, you'd have to ignore so many cool people. Yeah. I saw I [laughter] saw I saw a picture of a was a clan rally and you know it was all the white power stuff and the guy was wearing Jordans. I'm like uh I was like, "Wait a minute, dude. [laughter] I hate black people, but their goddamn shoes are fantastic. Oh, it's so dumb. It's the dumbest thing of all time. Being a racist is literally the dumbest thing. It's that See, racism is the one I That makes me laugh cuz I'm like, there's no way you can really like There's There may be people in the group that you don't like, and that's everybody.

38:11Everybody has that feeling. There's somebody in in one race that I didn't like, but that doesn't mean the whole [ __ ] race is tainted to me. Well, that's Well, first of all, it's dumb because all of us came out of one place. They they think now this [clears throat] is what they think about human beings that this is a weird theory too. They're trying to I'll send you this Jamie because it's really strange. They're not even sure if this is this is like a theory that they're working on now. Um they they think that it's possible that first of all they think that um monkeys and primates came originally from Asia. Here I'm sending this to you right now Jamie. And uh then we evolved and became humans in Africa. The thing is they don't know the monkey primates got from Asia to Africa. I just sent it to you. Um it's a long journey,

39:05but they think they might have [ __ ] floated over. It's it's a really interesting thing. But my point is all of us are African. Everyone is African. Yes. If you go back to the origins of human beings, everyone is African. That's where we started walking. That's everybody. Yeah. And then humans branched out. So even the idea of race itself is kind of preposterous. We vary because our ancestors developed in different climates. Well, one of the uh the um arguments from the the racist side is that their theory is that white people are more evolved, hence why they look least like monkeys. And I'm like, that's so dumb. And I'm like, I don't understand this [ __ ] theory. Well, it's a dumb theory because it doesn't understand why people became white in the first place is because we move to a shitty climate

39:52where there's no [ __ ] sunlight. So, the human skin when not exposed to sunlight gets paler and paler in a desperate attempt to soak up vitamin D, right? But then you have the Native Americans who were a little sworthy. Sworthy? What do you mean sworthy? A little a little darker, you know. Well, they came from Siberia. All of them. Yeah, that's uh pretty much. They think that they think it's and there was a very uh common look between the two. Mhm. Well, they think it's it's it's also possible that there were some uh because we're dealing with when you talk about Native Americans, you're dealing with like uh pre- ice age. Obviously, I'm not a historian, so take this with a grain of salt. Yeah. or a whole bag. But, uh, if you if you're dealing with, um, people that were, uh, in North America like pre ice age and during the ice age, they came

40:42down the Bearing Straight. They think they came across the Bearing Land Bridge from Asia, but they But there's also some possible evidence that people came on boats as well. They don't really They would have to have. Yeah. They don't know where the Mech came from. That's a That's a real weird one. Those are folks that lived uh somewhere in South America that have African features, right? Yeah. They don't even And they have these big stone heads that were carved that were like 6,000 plus years old and they're like, "Okay, well, where are these guys come from?" They don't know. So, there's there's still some pieces to the puzzle that needs to be solved. But a large percentage of Native American civilization came out of Asia. They walked across. they somehow or another made it to North America and spread out. That's the theory. There's that island off of uh near

41:31India, somewhere between India and Sri Lanka that has North Sentinel Island. That's the one, right? With the uh with the black looking people. Yes. Well, they were from Africa and they and they stayed there. Yes. They they got in boats 60,000 years ago and they landed in this island and they can't figure out how to get out. They just stuck because there's they don't And they're still very primitive. Yes, because they don't have metallurgy. Um they're not even necessarily sure if they use fire. It's really interesting to this day. Yeah. To this day. There's they they believe I mean you're not supposed to visit them cuz it's like one of the rare the rare true uncontacted tribes left on Earth. Yeah. They wasn't that guy that went there and he got killed. Yes. Yeah. I have a whole bit about it. Yeah. But the uh the the missionary he went to bring the Bibles.

42:17Yeah. That'll [ __ ] teach you. Well, it's a poor idea. It's a poor bastard. I mean, the last thing like the last thing they need is that. Didn't you give him fire first for [ __ ] sakes? Well, these people had been [ __ ] with too. There's there was a man named Commander Maurice Vidal Portman who went and he was like an explorer/pervert who would travel the seas and find [snorts] these tribes of people and like like make them pose and take pictures with them like wearing weird clothes and [ __ ] Oh, really? Yeah. And he visited that place. He visited a couple other places and they think that people like that that visited that exploited these folks and [ __ ] with these folks gave them a uh very hostile take on intruders. And so when people come like that guy who came with the Bibles,

43:05he probably didn't do his history didn't read up on what h had happened to these folks. He thought he was just going to bring the Bibles. And yeah, I got the good word, guys. That poor bastard. He's like, you know, he got killed with a bow and arrow on the beach holding a Bible. I mean, that is a rough way to go. I mean, at least he was holding his Bible. Maybe. At least. It's like St. Dominic who died with uh holding the uh I think he was holding a Bible when he got killed or something. Was he? The weird ones, the I shouldn't say the weird ones, the the more tragic ones currently are the ones that are in the Amazon because they get murdered by logging companies. Yes. And uh they're trying to wipe them [clears throat] out so they get those trees. Exactly. They find them to be a impediment to their their I mean not just trees, whatever natural resources

43:50they have they're trying to exploit in the Amazon and you know they they find these people slaughtered and it happens and you know and also activists against these people attacking they wind up getting murdered as well. Yeah. Because they don't know the difference. Well, it's not even just that. It's like they they cause trouble for them. like they're causing trouble for these companies that are trying to exploit the natural resources of these areas. It's a very interesting time we're living in, dude. The Do you know that? Here's what's crazy. Do you know a lot of the Amazon rainforest, which is this [ __ ] insanely dense, incredible rainforest. A lot of it used to be populated and a lot of the growth there is actually because of humans, a lot of the plants. And the reason why it's so dense is because of the stuff that human beings planted

44:38there thousands of years ago. And now we're trying to get rid of it. Well, it's not even just that we're trying to get rid of it. They're just starting to understand like the whole ecosystem of that area. Like why these why it's so dense and what what caused all this what caused all this intense uh like vegetation and brush and they think it's possible that a lot of it was caused by human beings. See, find out what tree that is that they planted. But there's some insanely prolific tree that they were uh that they were harvesting and planting in these areas and it took over. Like you hear that the lost city of Z. You ever you remember that the movie? Yeah. That movie apparently was based on what what would happen when these explorers had originally come there. Supposedly pristine untouched Amazon rainforest was actually shaped by

45:27humans. Over thousands of years, native people planted a strong played a strong role in molding the ecology of this vast wilderness. So we assume that you see this dense jungle. Oh, it's untouched. But it it actually they don't think it was. Um so here it goes. Uh describe the region of the world, the 1991 book making marking the 500th anniversary of Christopher Columbus uh voyage to the new world. The native people were transparent a landscape living as natural elements in the ecosphere. Their world was a world of barely perceptible human disturbance. But was it really? And a less, how do you say that word? Rapsidotical. Rapsodical verse. Scholars in the past quarter century have shown that this mythical image of untouched nature is just that, a myth. Like humans everywhere, Native Americans shaped their environments to suit them

46:17through burning, pruning, tilling, and other practices. And the Amazon is no different. If you look closer, you see the deep impressions that humans have made on the world's largest tropical rain rainforest. Scientists reported yesterday in the journal Science. Despite its vastness, the Amazon stretches more than 2 million square miles, an estimated 390 billion trees, this rainforest is hardly the untameable, unstoppable force of nature that the Romantics opined, says Jose Irriarte, an archaeologist at the University of Exit. In fact, humans have inhabited the Amazon for roughly 13,000 years and have been domesticating plants for at least 8,000. And recent archaeological studies, especially in the last two decades, showed that indigenous populations in the past were more numerous, more complex, and had a greater impact on the largest and most

47:10biodiverse tropical rainforest in the world than had previously thought than previously thought. What's the uh lifespan of the uh those those untouched humans? I don't know, man. Not not so good. But hold on a sec. Here's Stop right there. Um colleagues were t taking inventory of the vast diversity of the Amazon uh trees. They sampled 1,100 scattered plots far from modern human inhabitants to identify more than 16,000 different species among those 390 billion individual plants. Then they noticed something odd. Despite the broad diversity, over half of the total trees were made up of just over 1% of the species. About 20 of these hyperdominant plants were domesticated species such as the Brazil nut, the Amazon tree grape, and the ice cream bean tree. That was five times the amount researchers expected if the chances were the only

48:08fac if chance was the only factor. the hypothesis came up that perhaps people might have domesticated these species which would have helped their abundance in the Amazon. So they they think they had domesticated these species that they use for food and then these species took over and just dominated the uh the ecosphere like a wild weed. Yeah. They they've also started using something called LAR. And LAR is something that they use from planes and they scan the rainforest and underneath this insane dense vast jungle. The LAR can see through Yeah. the bush, the you can see through everything into the ground and they found these grids that indicate that there were cities there. So all this [ __ ] that's incredibly dense and and filled with trees. now at one point in time had complex like roadways and irrigation systems and they think

49:02that the the latest theory is that explorers when they came there like this uh Cababesa Devaka dude and these others that came from Europe probably gave these people the plague they probably gave these people diseases just like they did to 90% of all Native Americans were wiped out by disease brought by European explorers the blankets they think that that's I don't think that's true I think the blanket part is fake it's just being around them that guilt the smallox. I think maybe there probably was some people that gave people dirty blankets, but that's not what spread. It was just disease. Just the fact that Europeans were dirty. They came over on boats filled with rats and [ __ ] and [ __ ] brought horrible diseases that these Native Americans didn't have any immune system for. Well, they think the same

49:44thing probably happened to the Amazon. And so these like city of the the lost city of Z, they think that these cities really did exist that they did have these incredible cities. And then when they came back just 20, 30 years later looking for these places, all they found was jungle. It was overgrown cuz the people were dead cuz the people died from the plague. And then everything got overgrown like quickly by and then the dead bodies probably fertilized the soil which Bro, yeah, bro. So these are human. This is these trees are human trees. history from morons for your pleasure. You're welcome, kids. Yeah, Google all this though. Read from real sources. But it is interesting because you could see how this could happen, you know, and it really is a the world is a wild place, man. And when human beings start doing what Cabesa Devaka and Cortez did and all these

50:34other folks did back in the day where they would travel to these new places, they would bring disease and they would kill off a lot of the people that were there. They think that's what happened to the Mayans, too, you know. Incredible civilization, beautiful structure. They had a huge uh huge cities, the Mayans. Yeah. And some of it still standing, you know. Oh, yeah, man. It's still to this day [ __ ] incredibly gorgeous, beautiful structures that were that um they they mapped out the the cosmos. They like mirrored the cosmos. They mirrored a lot of the constellations, you know. I'm excited about what about just learning about all this stuff, you know? I I like I'm all about uh you know I'm not so impressed by the tree but I'm more I I want to know who planted that tree you know that's a very similar people trying to live man that's the thing

51:23right they were just trying to get by just trying to stay alive then we got to find their their writings that's as we find the writings and we need to find somebody who can trans uh translate these writings well the Mayan writings are weird they're kind of like a hieroglyph type deal. But I think the the the way the Mayans writing would work, they would have images that represented sounds like uh like you would have an someone explain this. I think it might have been McKenna like the way it would be written. So, like you'd have an I and then you would have the C and then you would have an ant like the bug and then you would have a rose like a flower and that would be how you say I see ant rose. Yeah, that's exactly how I read that when you said it in my head and I thought I was being funny in my head. I was like no right. Yeah, it's I forget what that

52:17kind of language is called. There's a very specific It's a specific kind of language. It's almost like they were talking emojis, right? [ __ ] Jamie had this idea back a while ago. Look at you, Jamie. Jamie was saying like we were talking about like sending emojis to go he goes, "Do you think that like maybe eventually that will be our language that like emojis would be?" And we were we were both I think we're pretty high at the time. It's easily easy could happen possibly. I I can't see you being high, Joe. It's weird. And we were saying um that could eventually evolve to be the next language cuz how many times do you is it an evolution or is it a devolution? Are we going back to that? Well, it depends on how well [clears throat] it communicates, right? If it communicates really well like right now like if someone sends you like

53:04eggplant and then water and then the crying tear face. Like that's probably like it's just funny. Yeah, I love doing that to people. Yeah, it's fun. It's my favorite one, you know. It's fun. I try to have whole emoji conversations with people sometimes just to [ __ ] with [laughter] them, you know? You're you're kind of getting something across, but what if eventually emojis became like a universal language, right? Like it kind of has been because you can communicate with people through emoji. Sure. And people that don't even speak English, you communicate with them with a lot of emojis. These are all common denominators for everybody. Yeah. Not they're not the best way of communicating. They're not the best, but you know, it's helpful. Yeah. But one day maybe they'll have better emojis or another kind of like maybe some sort of three-dimensional emoji

53:51that like you know works with AR, you know, augmented reality. So it it gives you like a a real inclination of what the person is trying to say without knowing their language. Yeah. Like when I was about to when my friend text me before I came, he was like, "Hey, good luck on" and he didn't say Rogan, he sent me a gorilla. [laughter] Good luck on. And I was like, "What? Hey, what is that? He goes, "Rogan, he's a [ __ ] gorilla." I go, "Yeah, he is a gorilla." Yeah, I'm more of a chimp. I don't know. I think you're very silverbackish. No. You ever seen a a full grown chimp? They resemble me a lot. Like especially if I lift a lot. If I'm lifting heavy lifting phase, apishly long arms, you know? Yeah. Primitive. Sad. That's why I'm so stupid, too. Yeah. Yeah. You're clearly not the stupid one in this room. It's dumb jeans. We

54:38We me and your security guys were talking. We're like, you know, we all we also we were talking about before you got here. We're like, you know, we all think we know something. Then we talk to Joe and we go, I don't know [ __ ] Well, it's just me talking to so many people that know a lot and remembering remembering some of it. That's what it is. I mean, you got to think I'm like 1,700 deep into these [ __ ] conversations with professors and scientists. And I like when you have Neil on. Oh, he's coming on soon. Does he? Yeah. I'm excited to talk to him. Yeah. He's a great guy. You know, I I uh I had a photographer in my house and he was a young black kid and he was taking some pictures of me and he goes uh because he showed me he was wearing shorts and I go, "Who's that on the back of your calf?" And he goes, "Oh, that's

55:17Neil deGrasse Tyson. He's my idol." Wow. So, I took a picture of his calf and I sent it to Neil and he goes, "You need new friends." That sounds like something he would say. Yeah. He's a He's a I sent it to him. I said, "A buddy of mine has you tattooed on his leg." And he goes, "You need new friends." That's what he said. I'm worried about your choice in friends. Guys like him are super important. Science communicators that are also like fun. Like he's a fun guy. Yeah. He gets the message out. Yeah. In a way that dumb people like myself can understand. Exactly. Exactly. And that's that's what's important. Just to just to be aware of the the beauty of this mystery of this [ __ ] universe that we're floating around in. And now they said, "You say that they uh I don't know if it's real because you never know what

56:03the [ __ ] is real on the internet anymore, but they say they found some sort of uh fungus life on Mars." Yes. They think they don't know what it is. They said it blows away overnight or some [ __ ] H They were like, "It was here yesterday. It's blown away now. It's some sort of fungus that can grow very quickly and then with a strong wink go away." Well, that makes sense. But then you would imagine Mars would be covered in fungus if it's blown around like that. Not necessarily because fungus exists here. But it's we're not covered in it and it doesn't even blow away, right? Like if you go out into a yard after rain, you'll find mushrooms that weren't there the day before. They grow really quickly. You ever tried those? No, I don't know enough and they'll kill you, you know, if you eat the wrong ones. Like that mushroom picking

56:48business is tricky because you really have to know your stuff. There's there's mushrooms that have extreme liver toxicity and they look just like edible mushrooms. They're like real close. Like you gotta know like I've had Paul Stammits on and he is he's explained to me the complex nature of understanding like there's some mushrooms like if you see a morel morels's on the ground like you ever eaten morel mushrooms? I have not. They're really delicious and they're very rare. What do they look like? They look like uh almost like like a hollow pine cone. They're weird looking but they're a fungus. They're a fungus and they grow quickly and they grow uh specifically around areas that have burned. Oh yes. I've seen a lot of fungus around burn burn zones. Yeah. For some reason, morelss are they're associated with burn areas. Not all the time, but people go and pick

57:41them and uh they go morell hunting and then you know you eat them and they're really delicious. You you like sauté them with butter and garlic salt. Oh, rasel. What are you tasting though? You're tasting butter and garlic salt. No, you're tasting They're They're a meaty, chewy, delicious mushroom. They're really nice. And where do you get them? Well, you got to get them online or hunt them. You got to go go, you know, they sell them dried. Yeah, they sell them dried. Yeah, you can buy them. You buy them on Amazon and then they just rehydrate once. You soak them. What I do is I I take a uh like a large pot fill with water and I'll add salt to the water and I'll soak them and you know a lot of dirt gets off too. So you strain it and rinse them off and I'll soak them for a few hours and then uh sauté them up. They're nice. I'm telling you that's what they look like

58:30when they're cooked. Oh, I think I've had those. They are quite tasty actually. Bro, they're delicious. They're so delicious. Especially when they're a little charred like that. Yes. I do like I'm a texture guy, so I like the crunch. Me, too. Do you do you enjoy Indian food? Are you an Indian food guy? I do. I love Indian food. I [ __ ] love Indian. But I have acid reflux, so I got to be careful. I got to plan it when I'm going to eat Indian food. What causes that? I don't know. I've had it my whole life. I've literally had it my whole life. And then I went a couple weeks ago, I went and got uh I had the old spit roast done to me. You know, the uh Oh, did they? The colon endo job. And right before I went under, I told the doctor, I said, "Put an apple in my mouth." And then I passed out. And then I woke up and he goes, "How was

59:10it?" I go, "It was fine except for both your hands are on my shoulders." [laughter] Now, um, what do they do for you when you got the acid reflux? They prescribe a medication. Yeah, you're on I'm on a medication. You can also I mean, it's also very it's not fixable, but it's it's manageable by what you eat as well. You know, for me, it's mostly about uh for sleep. If I don't get enough sleep and I decide I want to eat something that I know could trigger me. It'll really trigger me if I haven't slept enough. Oh, so like you're tired, if you're worn out. Yeah. Yeah. But if I've slept enough, I could eat whatever the [ __ ] I want, do whatever I want. That's the same thing with getting sick. You know, it's amazing how much your immune system sort of regulates everything. And when you're tired, your immune system is weakened. And I know a

59:54lot of people that have gotten like really sick where they probably wouldn't have gotten sick because they're one they're run down like fighters that are they're training for big fights. Like a lot of people think, "Oh, fighters are in great shape. They must be really healthy." No, especially when they're trying to make weight and they dehydrate their entire body. That's insane. So bad that. But even just the training itself when they're breaking themselves down, a lot of times fighters get sick. A lot of fighters have gotten COVID um pretty bad because they were in the middle of fight camp and they didn't stop training. Like Cody Garbrandt, he had COVID. He got sick and he kept training through it. So, he just kept beating his body up. Like they're too tough for their own good. Yeah. It's uh it's your body. You got to listen to your body,

60:39especially the older you get. Just you can't ignore the signs, you know? Yeah. So, do they tell you what you should and shouldn't eat? No, that's what I was hoping for. And he was like, "No, you seem fine." And I'm like, "What the fuck?" And what does acid reflux do? Like you have like it's a like a burp almost. It's a bad burp, but you know your eyes are going to water cuz it burns once it gets up here. So like that's the acid. Yeah. The stomach juices. Burns. Burns. Like my nose will run, my eyes will water on a bad one. I've had some bad episodes. Stress will bring it out too. And how long does it last? I mean it depending on how bad of an episode I have. I I try to control it as best I can. I'm aware of when it's going to how I can how it's going to affect me when it's going to affect me. If I eat too much, if I eat too late or if I try

61:23to go to bed too soon after eating. Have you ever tried fasting? Yeah, fasting's great for me. Does that work? Yeah. Yeah, it works well for me. How many days have you done? I don't do days. I do like 16 hours. That's good. Then I'll eat something. I haven't done days either. I've done 24 hours. That's the most I've ever done. Yeah, I I um Well, recently I just I went like 22 hours. It wasn't I was try wasn't trying to. I just had gone 22 hours without eating and I was like, I feel fine. George St. Pierre just did a three-day one. He said he felt [ __ ] amazing. I'm thinking about trying it. I just have to time it right, you know. Isn't there talks of him fighting somebody again? There's talks. There's talks of him fighting Kabib or something. Yeah, but I don't think Kabib is going to fight again, and I don't think George

62:02is going to either. I think George is done. You know, George is uh very happy and comfortable with his life now, and he's got his health. How old is George now? 30 38. 38. He's He's still got a lot of time left. Not really. You don't think so? No. I mean, when you're that elite and you and you don't let yourself go ever, right? But the there's a difference between it's a big difference between like a 33-year-old Camaro Usman and a 38-year-old George St. Pierre. There's a difference is is George is the top of the food chain at 38, right? In terms of like how fit he is, how well he takes care of his body, doesn't abuse himself, he's always in shape, and he's always working out. He's always doing something. He's always doing gymnastics. He does these pool workouts. He's always doing jiu-jitsu and kickboxing. He has not stopped. But he's still 38.

62:48True. Camaro showed a lot of improvement over the years, too. Like every [ __ ] time, dude. Every time I see him, he's like the he's like the Canelo of the UFC almost to me. He's he's a real champion is what he is. You know what I mean? I'm curious to see how Israel is going to bounce back now. Oh, he'll be fine. Oh, he'll be fine. I agree. It's just I just think when you're going up to 205, you got to go up to 205. You know, the especially when it comes to the wrestling weight's real. And that guy Yan Bohovich, that's a scary [ __ ] that dude. That that guy, you talk about power, like how people just have power. He's just got power. Like he's got crazy preposterous one-punch power. And you always have to worry about that. And then when he got Izzy down and he controlled him on the ground, he's just size and strength is real, man. You're

63:38do Izzy never gained any weight. So he he went in and weighed in, I think like 190 something. Bohovich weighed 205 and probably went up to 220ish, you know, during the actual fight itself. So, you know, you're talking about Israel is a thin guy to begin with. I mean, he's got to grow into that size as opposed to try and put it on. But he'll fight anybody, man. He doesn't give a [ __ ] He'll go up to heavyweight and he's a really nice kid. He's the nicest. Oh my god. I've talked with him on uh Instagram. We DM'd each other and what a sweet guy. I started contacting him long before he ever fought in the UFC. Really? Yeah. I was asking him when he's going to do it because I'd heard rumblings that he was thinking about making the leap into uh fighting MMA and back then he was just kickboxing and I was just a big fan of his style. Like I mean how

64:23could you not be? We watch his uh kickboxing highlight reel. Like if you think Izzy is great in MMA, and he is. I've seen some old clips of him. He's fantastic. [ __ ] In kickboxing, he's a genius, man. And he's so thin, but he's got a lot of power. Oh, well, he's so accurate. He's just so He's very Andersonish. He's creative and intelligent and sharp and everything he does when he's not worn, right? Yeah. Yeah. I he's only been KO'ed once and that was a brutal one against Alex Pereira who's this ruthless knockout striker and that was in uh that was in Glor I think it was in Glory might not have been Glory might have been in another kickboxing league I'm not sure I think it was Glory but either way Alex is a um two division glory kickboxing champion did he have a rematch they fought twice um Alex won a decision the first time and he KO'ed him the

65:10second time really I think the first fight was close the second fight. Um, Izzy had him in real trouble, too. He had him really in trouble. And a lot of people thought that the fight should have been stopped, but that's probably Izzy fans. You know what I mean? Yeah, there's a lot of that when that happens. It's when a guy should and shouldn't be stopped is so controversial. You know, it's like Cowboy Cerrone this weekend, right? The Alex, I didn't get to see it. Was rough to watch. Um, I'm assuming Alex won. Yeah, he stopped him in the first round. Alex is a bad [ __ ] though. He's tough. You know, Cerrone is a tough guy, but I think it, you know, he's had a lot of bad knockouts lately. And, you know, I'm not going to be the one to tell Donald Cerrone to not [ __ ] fight anymore, but you know, as a fan, um, I wish fighting didn't hurt.

66:01Well, I mean, I think that's, you know, you know what I mean? I wish it didn't hurt. Kind of the essence of it. I know. I wish it didn't hurt people. I wish uh you got out of the your career and you didn't have to deal with um brain damage and body damage, but that's also one of the reasons why it's so wild and exciting to watch as you know there's severe consequences to their actions, you know. What about that fight that was supposed to happen with Anderson Silva and Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. that's still happening? Is that happening? I think it's happening in June. See if we can find out when that's happening. Yeah, they're he's taking a boxing match. I mean, at least he's taking it against a guy in the boxing world who's not very well respected. He might not be as respected as some, but Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. is still a

66:47[ __ ] beast. You cannot sleep on that guy. He is a dangerous man. He hits very hard. But um he doesn't have the work ethic that he needs. I think that's what his problem is. Remember when he fought Canelo? Yeah. And he basically just went into a defensive shell and just survived. But he did survive. Billy Joe Saunders didn't survive. But you have to say Canelo today is better than the Canelo of then. See what we Canelo of of last weekend was is better than the Canelo of the of the fight before. I mean, he's a continuously improving fighter. He talks about that too. He he talked about that in one of the interviews that were talking to him about pre-ight about keep maintaining his energy and he's like, "Just because I'm at the top doesn't mean I'm going to slow down." He goes, "No, no, no. I'm going to keep going. Keep going." Keep that same energy.

67:31He understands it. But he understands he's hit this rare air where he's the number one pound-for-pound fighter on earth and he's just so dominant, you know? He's so dominant. That fight with Billy Joe was so interesting. I was getting mad at people who were talking [ __ ] after that. Chavez senior fighting then. Oh boy. Hector Kamacho Jr. Wow. [laughter] Wow. Chavez senior is fight. That's kind of crazy. Yeah. Senior beat up uh Kamacho. That's why, didn't he? Wow. That's He beat up Junior's dad. Did he? I think he did like in the '9s. What? Did that not Did he Did he fight him? I think he might check box wreck. He may have. I do not think that I remember when after Kamacho beat Julio Cesar. Edwin Rosario was the one that gave Kamacho a rough fight and that's what made Kamacho change his style. Really? Yeah. Edwin El Chapo Rosario. He closed

68:26um he [clears throat] closed Hector's eyes in that fight. Hector Kamacho. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He He's the one that made Kamacho the more defensive fighter after that. I'm conflating. I thought you were talking about Julia Caesar Chavez. No, no, no. But I'm I'm saying I think Chavez himself Yeah, he did. He fought Hector Kamacho. Unanimous decision. He won. Yeah. Yeah. That's when he was uh he was he was undefeated though. I thought you were saying I'm sorry. I thought you were saying that Hector Kamacho would beat Julio Cesar Chavez. No, no, no, no, no. That was never the case. Chavez beat his ass. That was when Chavez was the king. There's only one fight there that Pernell Whitaker fight. That's a questionable one. ripped off Pernell. Every time Every time Pernell fought a guy from Koulak, he lost to uh Joseé Luis Ramirez. Uh shady decision.

69:10And then he lost to he lost to Chavez. Bad decision. He lost to uh De La Hoya. Bad decision. I don't remember the De La Hoya fight honestly. Oh yeah. Per Listen, Pernell Pernell got [ __ ] so bad in in boxing by with decisions. Yeah. Well, for sure he did in the Chavez one. [clears throat] That was a bad one where a lot of Even Even the De La Hoya fight, he got [ __ ] on that deal. I believe you. I I don't remember that fight though. That's one of those ones where I'd have to go back. I have to It's There's so many fights. You can only store so many of them in your head. I know. Every time I uh meet a fighter, I'm like, "Hey, I remember you." And it'll be like some bum like not a bum but like a a journeyman, you know? And I'm like And that thing you don't know. And I'm like, "I remember you. Yeah, you were a good fighter." You know, like a

69:48remember that guy Greg Hogan. Greg Hogan. I remember Greg Hogan. Remember when Greg Hogan fought Chavez? Wasn't he from Boston? Greg Hogan. Um maybe. Maybe. No, I was thinking Bobby Chis. I'm thinking Bobby Chz was from New Jersey, I believe. I think Greg Hogan was from uh from uh uh just outside the Bronx. What's that area there? Greg Hogan. Yeah. I don't know. He was uh I want to say he was from Massachusetts or New Hampshire or some [ __ ] But I might be thinking of him. I might be thinking of um uh Joey Gamach who was Joey Gamach. You remember him? He was from Maine. Yeah. He was trying to come up on the uh Greg Hogan, Auburn, Washington. So he's from Washington State. You know who used to train with Greg Hogan was Joey Medina. Really? Yeah. They were stablemates at some point. No [ __ ] Yeah. Well, when he fought Julio Cesar Chavez.

70:39Well, how old is Chavez then? If Chavez is fighting again, how is 60? I think Chavez is like in his late 50s if I'm not mistaken. [ __ ] animal. Animal. 58. 58. Fighting again. [laughter] I mean, that's a guy who's, you know, in his prime, dude. did the Greg Hogan fight was him in his see find uh Julio Caesar Chavez versus Greg Hogan. I was watching a uh like a a video that was breaking down what happened with that fight cuz Hogan had decid he had he had played the bad guy, right? And he had uh taunted him and saying that he fought a bunch of Tijana cab drivers. Oh yeah, he was great at talking [ __ ] But my god, he was a monster. [ __ ] it, bro. He was so accurate. He knew exactly where you were going to be. Julio Cesar Chavez in the day was so slick. I mean, everything about him was so good. And he would walk through you.

71:33Oh my god. And it just his ripping shots the body. Always looking for the liver shot. And his endurance was off the charts. Like the volume of strikes that he would put on you. He beat the [ __ ] out of Greg Hogan in this fight. And then after the fight, Greg Hogan was like, "Well, they must have been some pretty [ __ ] tough cab drivers." [laughter] And then they hugged and it was kind of cool cuz he Yoners I think I think he fought out of Yonkers at some point. Hogan did. Yeah, there was another fight out of Yoners too back then. Chavez was absolutely one of my all-time favorites when when he was in his prime. He was just he was just perpetual motion, man. Frankie Randall died last year. Yeah. Well, Frankie Randall was the guy that really ended Chavez's reign, right? Dropped him with the first guy to drop him.

72:14Yeah. What did Frankie Randall die from? Uh I don't know to be honest with you. I uh Frankie the Frankie the surgeon Randall. I remember very clearly though. He he had a piston of a right hand and he had that knight. I remember when he fought chevy those those green gloves. It was like this or this lime green. It was really I remember that it was like a or baby blue some sort of it was one of those pleasing colors to me. I remember as [laughter] a kid he beat him twice. Remember they beat him in the rematch too. Beat in the rematch. Well Frankie just had that style. He had a perfect style for Julio. But also, Julio was, you know, who knows how many fights in his career. He was on his way to 100 and0. Gosh. And Frankie had stopped. It was like in Chavez was like in his 90s something fight. That's crazy. 100 and0 is crazy. Yeah. When it comes to alltime great,

73:02Rando who died 59. Oh. Result of dementia. Wow. That early, too. That's crazy. Wow. That's What about those people that say Saunders quit? And I'm like, his [ __ ] face was caving. Look at Go back to that, Jamie. Look at that. Chavez was 890 and one. That's what it was. Yeah. [ __ ] 89 and0. Yeah, the draw was with uh who? Uh with with Pernell. I don't know. Was it? I think it was. It was a draw. Was that a draw? I think it was. Yeah, the draw was with Pernell. Oh, I thought he lost a decision. I thought Pernell lost a decision. Was it a draw? It might have been a draw. If it was a draw, how the [ __ ] did they not fight again? Yeah, it was a draw. A majority a majority decision draw at the top there. Oh, there it is right there. Wow. M majority decision, but that's a majority decision. That's not a draw. Well, it's still a draw.

73:55No, no, majority decision means one fighter. It's a split decision. Uh, no, you can still get a How does that work? But a majority decision is not a draw, is it? I think one split decision. No, what it is is that uh Frankie Randall, one judge had it for Pernell, one judge had it for Chavez, and then one judge had a draw. Really? Yeah. And I think if you're the champ, you get the Oh, I see. You get the uh you get to keep your Oh, a majority draw. That's what it is. It's not a majority decision. We're thinking of it the wrong way, right? Yeah. Okay, that makes sense. And most people thought that Pernell won. Yeah, I thought so, too. But there's always been when a guy is as loved as Julio Cesar Chavez and then the odds on him are so high, right, of him winning. Yeah. Then everybody gets weird, right? Cuz like the judges, they want to protect the records.

74:41Well, there's been some judges, too, especially in Vegas that will never work again because they put in like uh remember when um uh remember when Manny Pacquiao lost to um Oh, Desert Storm. Yeah. Yeah. Um, Tim uh Tim Bradley. Tim Bradley. That's right. Yeah. Sorry, Tim. This brain fart. He's a great commentator, too, by the way. He's a good commentator. He's very good. The problem is he always looks like he wants to He's always talking about Well, what I if I you know, he seems like he wants to come back, but he's not going to come back. Well, you know, he's a great fighter. When you're a great fighter, you look at things through the eyes of what you did or what you could do. That's the only way to do it. Yeah. Well, Lennox is a [ __ ] great commentator. Lennox is a great commentator. But I've been hanging out with him a lot lately, actually.

75:26Yeah. You know who doesn't do that? Who is a great fighter who doesn't talk? Is Roy Jones Jr. Roy Jones Jr. is a fantastic commentator. Yeah, I like Roy when he commentates as well. I was asking who was I asking? I was asking Mike uh Sugar Ray Leonard if why he doesn't train anybody. And he said he can't he can't train somebody who doesn't he's never met somebody who has the same desire he had. And I can't train. He said I can't train somebody who's not going to dig as deep as I digged. Doug rather. [laughter] That makes sense. I guess I mean like I just can't sure he could find someone but you know a lot of great fighters are not great trainers you know. Yeah. Well those who can't do right. Well it's not just that. Some who are Buddy McGurt's a great trainer. He's a great fighter and a great trainer. Some some do become great I

76:12mean it's really just a matter of your your personality. John David Jackson is another guy. Great fighter great trainer. Yep. It doesn't always work that way though. Like Marvin Haggley never trained anybody that I know of. Did he? No. No, I don't think so. I think when he was done, he was done. He walked right away from the sport. Yeah, man. Disheartened and angry and cuz he got he got [ __ ] over early in his career, too. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he did. But he also is one of the all-time greats. Yeah. I mean, the the legacy that that guy left. He's from your state. [ __ ] yeah. Brockton, Massachusetts. Marvelous Marvin. It was a beast. I remember the first time I uh went to a strip joint when I was 16. You went to a strip joint when you were 16? So, my boxing coach took me Oh my god. to go see the uh Leonard Haggler fight.

77:02Oh, they had it at a strip joint. Yeah, because it was uh How distracting. Well, no, here's the [laughter] thing. It was Well, for me it was horribly distracting. It was It was uh closed circuit back then. So he took me he took me to the strip joint about three or four miles from my house and he was like come on we're going to go watch the Haggler or Leonard fight and he took me walked me right into the strip joint and he paid whatever the cover charge I think it was 10 bucks and I had never seen naked women in [laughter] my like in real life right and I just remember sitting in perverts row and I didn't care about the fight at that point I was just like oh my god there's a vagina in front of me and I was I I can only imagine the look on my face. I was just like, h and then the the club never got the fight. So, they started throwing bottles in the club and

77:49I'm not even pay the bottles are whizzing past my head and I'm just just staring at vaginas. So, like there was a problem with the pay-per-view. Yeah. Something happened with the with their feed [sighs and gasps] and everybody they were kicking everybody. They made an announcement. Everybody please exit the building. We're giving refunds on the way out and and I was just like, "All right." I I got up and I walked out, got my I got 10 bucks and I was like, "Where the [ __ ] my coach?" He left cuz [laughter] they didn't have a fight. So, he went to another place and he wasn't about to find me. He was just like 16 and he just left you there. He just left me there and I and I walked out. I got 10 B. I walked back in to try and find him again. And then when I walked out, I got another 10 bucks. And I was like, I'm up 20 bucks right now.

78:31I'm 16 with 20 bucks. 1987 with 20 bucks. You kidding me? Did you take a cab home? No, I joged home because it was 20 in your pocket. Yeah, it was late and I was, you know, I was a young kid. I was boxing. So, I was use as excuse for do some road road work. I joged home. I was happy. I didn't even notice the jog. I was just like, I got home and I remember painting the ceiling when I got back that night. It was just like, wow. These kids today, they don't know. They They can watch fights on their phones. Like, you could you could have watched the Canelo fight. You could been anywhere. If you have uh 5G, you just pull up your phone, get on the zone app, and you can watch the fight anywhere you are. Back in our day, we had to go places. Yeah. Remember those days? The the closed circuit days? I was in Omaha when the fight happened, so I don't know where I was going to

79:15watch this. I was in my green room and I I my my assistant Eddie texts me goes, "Hey, hey, fool. The fight's starting." And I was about to go on stage. I go, "All right." I thought he meant like the card was starting. Oh, the actual fight. Yeah. So when I got off, I go, uh, as the main event started, he goes, "Yeah, I text you already, fool." I'm like, "All right." And what happened? He goes, "Go look at the highlights." And I open up my Instagram and there it was. That [ __ ] uppercut he hit him with. My god. Nasty. Canelo is in this weird place where he's kind of cleaned out the division, right? He's got Caleb Plant, right? And not just that division, he's kind of cleaned out a lot of divisions. Triple G is still in the in the [ __ ] running, which is interesting because he hasn't fought in two years. No, he fought recently. Triple G fought

79:57He fought last year. Yeah, it's been a year though. Definitely since he fought last. Um I don't think it's quite a year because I I was in Texas. I watched it in Texas live or Yeah. Yeah. Um see, find out when he when he fought, but he looked [ __ ] good, dude. He not only looked good, he looked ripped. So I was like, hm, piss test, please. Cuz he's like 38 and Oh, he's got I think he's bordering 40 real quick. Looked as good as he's ever looked. He looked phenomenal. December. Oh, December. There you go. Oh, okay. So, it's not been that long then. [snorts] Yeah. So, uh Yeah. So, so is he fighting when the [ __ ] is he fighting again then? Well, they're talking about him possibly fighting Canelo. He's I don't think that's a good fight for him anymore for him. Maybe not. But maybe the last chance at romance. I mean, how much more

80:42of an option does he have? I mean, where's he going to go? Where what else does he have? But the first fight, I thought he won. Definitely. I was at that one. Yeah, I thought he won the first fight. I was ringside there. The second fight, very close. Very close. and Teddy Atlas was saying they should have given it to Triple G. A lot of other people favored Canelo, but a much better performance for Canelo. But I think Canelo, as like we said, these these guys like Camaro Usman, like Canelo Alvarez, like these guys who are just consumate champions, you're just going to get a better version of them every single time they step into the ring. Every single time they get in the cage. Camaro shows improvement. Impressive improvement. Like a like a young fighter. He shows improvement like a 22- year old guy who was just learning the game. Like I was nervous when he fought

81:26Covington. I was at that fight and uh I remember sitting I was sitting uh I was sitting with Covington's family cuz Chuck Zto got me the tickets. So I was sitting there and then when the main event started I noticed all the MAGA hats and you know make and and Candace Owens was sitting there and I was like [ __ ] I don't want to be on this side. I don't want I don't want my friends to see me sitting here. So uh Clay uh Clay Guida was sitting across the aisle and I go Clay who's sitting there. He said, "Nobody, come sit with me." So, I I moved across town on set with Clay that fight. Dude, have you seen Did you see Speaking of manga, did you see Shane Gillis's uh sketch that he did on Trump doing uh speed dating? No. Holy [ __ ] is it funny? Who's Shane Gillis? Shane Gillis is the guy that got uh kicked off of Saturday Night Live. Oh, right.

82:09Yeah, he got hired from Saturday Night Live and then they found him on a podcast talking [ __ ] Just just random like this, just words, nothing. [ __ ] around like like comics do. We we spitball and say the most obscene things and then we realize this works, this doesn't work. You know, the problem is people take things out of context. Absolutely. 100%. I'm telling you, man, you got to watch this. Like, you'd have to watch it. Like, we I don't want to play it. I want people to watch it. Trump speed dating Gilly and Keeves. Uh it's only got 29,000 views. It should have 29 million. It's [ __ ] brilliant. I I'll put it up on on Twitter or whatever later today. It's so good. It's so funny, man. It's brilliant. Have you done um [ __ ] it's horrible. I can't remember the guy's name. And he's a friend of mine, too. And I just did

82:59his podcast. Uh he does it in character. Um Jim Norton. No, no, no, no. He does Chipperson. No, he's he was an SNL member at one point, too. He does it in character. He does it he does he'll do a different character every time he interviews you. Well, so when I did it, he did he did it as Jimmy Fallon. Who are you talking about? [ __ ] hell. Do you know who he's talking about, Jamie? I feel bad. And he's, you know, the worst part. He's the friend and his name. Real good friend. Yeah. Real tight. [laughter] If somebody says, "Hey, that hilarious guy from Canada. You know who he is. You're going to get a hurt real bad." Be like, "Oh yeah, that guy." Uh, Jeff. Jeff Richards. [ __ ] me. I haven't done it. No. Yeah. He just Yeah. And when he when I did it, he did it as uh Fallon and then he just had on uh Sher O Terry and he

83:43did it as a different character. It was really funny. You know who had on recently from Saturday Night Live? Jim Brewer. He was [ __ ] fedic. It was awesome. He's so funny, man. That guy. You want to talk about a guy who never got his just do, never got his like his respect that he deserves as a comic. He's one of the funniest [ __ ] guys ever. He's so funny. You know what it was? They they they look at, you know, the industry, here's your opportunity. In the 90s, the game is shot a little they gave it early and he excelled with it and then for some reason they just they move on. He didn't want to do it anymore. No, with him it's not that. It's not that they move on. He didn't give a [ __ ] Like he even talked to his wife about it. She was like, "Why why do you keep doing the show? It makes you miserable." He had terrible things

84:26to say about doing the show. He did not enjoy it. He had terrible things to say about the way he was treated, the way they would rip off material and and steal sketches from each other and not good. I mean, him and Dave uh Dave really they they worked together a lot. Oh, yeah. Well, Halfbaked, you know. Yeah. Halfbaked. Then they had a sitcom together. Uh they did in the 90s. Yeah. They were like it was like a buddy buddy show. Really? Yeah. There was a lot of those sitcoms that that's what hap that's how him and Dave forged the friendship for Halfbaked. Oh, really? It's called Buddies. It was called Buddies. Yeah. There you go. Show me what that looked like. I'm kind of I'm vaguely remembering this. Yeah, I I remember uh Buddies. Wow. Okay. Richard, look at Home. Well, yeah, they're on Home Improvement there, but Oh, was it an ABC sitcom? Is that what it was?

85:12Yeah, probably. I think this was like this is what spawned the spin-off for them. Oh, wow. Sitcoms. Boy, I was on set for Halfbaked a lot, hanging out in Dave's trailer back then in the night. It was shot in Toronto and I would hang out in Dave's trailer. He had a white uh Pomeranian named Felonius back then. [laughter] Dave's always been a [ __ ] amazing guy. He's on another level now. Oh, it's incredible. We've been doing a lot of shows together. Yeah. It's uh he's he's beautiful. I love I love what he stands for, too. We put this clip up on the uh Instagram, the kindness conspiracy. That's really how he is, man. It's like he's always been like that, too. It's not like it's not a new thing for him. He's always been that guy. He's always been a sweetheart of a guy, but now he's like he's really like trying to push that out there.

86:02See, as far as I'm concerned, he's the real woke. Like, that to me is what woke should be. Right. Right. It's not this fake um angry woke. Yeah. It's it's a real wokeness he has. It's not Well, woke is tainted. The word's tainted, but real compassionate, kind. That's what woke should be. If you're actually woke, you'll be compassionate and understanding to other people's ways of thinking. But they think the what woke means to a lot of people that adopt it is like activism, you know, like calling people out and yelling at people and a lot of this very angry [ __ ] that we see online today. But it's, you know, a lot of it is also you're just dealing with a lot of people that are very unhappy and they're unhappy and they express that unhappiness. too much voices for people that don't need a voice. Look what you said. You know what I mean? And I'm, you know

86:50what I'm noticing, too? It's not so much that there's these people externally, it's the industry itself that's doing this. Well, it's the world that's doing this and it's it's accentuated through social media. I mean, if you ever see the documentary, The Social Dilemma, they talk about how this is happening and that the algorithms are actually enhancing and even reinforcing this kind of behavior that people are necessarily I mean, people aren't necessarily naturally inclined to like form these tribes and hate on people that disagree with them. You know, people I think generally speaking, would like to be reasonable. People like to get along with people. They have opinions, but they like to get along with people. But when you reinforce these thought bubbles and you reinforce these echo chambers, which is what online, you know,

87:39algorithms do, whether it's Facebook or Twitter or whatever, it's also about how you look to other people. It's so much it's so much about appearance as opposed to the substance behind it. What do you mean? Well, people, you know, you you put this face out for the social media world and then you're this piece of [ __ ] behind it, right? There's a lot of that. Yeah, there's a lot of that. And there's a whole generation of it now. You know, this whole chicken nugget generation that's coming up right now is chicken nugget generation. Yeah, because that's how their [ __ ] pallet is chicken nuggets. You know, [laughter] they grew up eating [ __ ] chicken nuggets. Our kids are the chicken nugget generation. Well, these kids are definitely they're weird in the way they think you should communicate. You growing up

88:17communicating online has got to be [ __ ] terrible for the way your brain functions, the way your brain forms. It's the same thing with shopping and music and everything. There's a reason that things are very thin and shallow. Yeah. But it's also co coincidentally at the same time this is the best time ever for long form intelligent conversations. So think of that. It is. But it's not being used that way. But it is right here. Well, right here it is. But there's a lot of But you also have people of our age that are doing this because we understand both sides of this coin. Yeah. But there's some kids in their 20s that have some pretty badass podcasts. People are trying. They're talking about things and this is the antidote or at least the counterpoint to this uh shallow online culture. I feel like Andrew Schultz is the guy

89:04that can speak to the younger generation um as well as our generation talk to each other. He's he's that conduit between our world and their world. He's certainly one of them for sure and he's he's one of the most intelligent intelligent and reasonable guys of the young up and cominging generation. one of the most he's the most one of the most thoughtful also one of the most clever in terms of like the choices he makes and the way he like like doing the things that he did for Netflix and taking the time during the pandemic to innovate and Yep. I'm a big fan of the way he moves. Absolutely. I I I also feel like he's the guy who can explain to these people why these people are this way and why this isn't bad and why why it should be okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what he did with those Netflix clips. Absolutely. Yeah. Those Netflix

89:53killed it. And there's so many [ __ ] jokes that he drops in there. It's like watching an episode of VEP. You don't, you know, you catch jokes. You have to watch it five, six times in order to catch every joke. Well, his is like visuals and punchline after punchline after punch line. Rapid fire. Oh, yeah. It's like a [ __ ] semi-automatic coming at you. Yeah. Well, you know, the every generation needs someone who's out there pushing the boundaries and out there, you know, trying to innovate and trying to, you know, hustle. He's a non-tapper. He won't tap. That's right. That's right. He's not tapping. Some people tap too quick. Yeah, I tapped with you quick, but uh it was in pain. What do you want from me? You Yeah, you uh Listen, you had me in a calf slicer. That [ __ ] thing hurts, dude. That was not a calf slicer. It was a

90:41calf slicer onto the on the way to the move. I was just setting up the twist. Yeah, and that hurts. [laughter] I'm glad I tapped when I tapped. I'll tell you this. I'm I wasn't mean to you, though. Like, you're making it seem like No, no, no. You listen, you weren't a bully. Okay. You had me in a move on the way to a move. Uhhuh. You know, it's it's pressure. It's like tapping because of pressure. It's the same thing. A lot. You know, Jean Jack's not going to tap from pressure. Well, you never position. [laughter] You're not getting him in that position. Did I ever tell you? Did I ever tell you when I was rolling with him lat must have been about a year and a half ago and my ankle to this day still hurts because what [laughter] I he's in my guard and I had my leg up high on on his back and I'm like oo I'm going to try rubber guard. Oh no.

91:26So I had my leg up high on his back like like right around here, you know? And I and I and he feels my leg up high and I reach over and he goes, "You're not flexible enough. [laughter] And having never done rubber guard, seeing videos of Eddie do it and and all these guys in 10th Planet do it, and I go, I'm going to try rubber guard. But because he said, you're not flexible enough, my ego went, I'm going to [ __ ] go for it. And I didn't know that I had to grab my leg. I grabbed my foot. Oh. And I cranked my foot. And you hurt your own ankle. I hurt my own. To this day, it still hurts. Yeah. Yeah. I I l literally I [ __ ] myself over to this day. To this day. Did you get an MRI or anything? No, I have not. But it's not been hurting lately. And my girl gets mad cuz I'm like, "Babe, can you run my ankle? It's swollen today." It's She goes, "I'm

92:21[ __ ] tired." And that's the problem when you date a girl your own age. You're like, "You [laughter] can't you can't you can't pull the same old man [ __ ] on me. You're both exhausted." Yeah. I'm like, "That's hilarious." I'm like, "You don't know what it's like. I'm going to be 51 this year." She's like, "Motherfuck, I'm going to be 49. I don't need your bullshit." I'm like, "God damn it. Yeah. You got to be careful with the rubber guard. Rubber guard, you want to grab below the ankle. You want to get it guess. Guess who figured that out? Yeah. You want to get it right here. This is what you want. So, you want it underneath. I was trying to go from over the top. I went over the top and grab my foot. Yeah. You don't want to do that. But there's sometimes you do grab your foot. There's sometimes when you double bag,

92:57you have to grab your foot. You have to grab your foot and make a transition. Yeah. Yeah, I did. I found it the hard way. You should take some uh 10th Planet classes. I really should learn some [ __ ] I would like to I would like to do it with Eddie. Yeah, he'll do it. I'll set it up. Yeah, that'd be great. Eddie's the best, man. Because I know Eddie's been going gee lately. Oh, he'll do both. You know, he likes to [ __ ] around with the ghee. Yeah, he's he's been coming back and hanging out and doing ghee. Yeah, when I met Eddie, he was all ghee, you know. Yeah, I saw a picture I saw pictures. I didn't know he had long hair and stuff. Oh, he had crazy long hair back when he was in his rock and roll days. He used to put his hair in like a scuba helmet. Like uh not a scumba helmet, like a mask. like like he would tuck all his

93:35hair cuz he had this like his hair down to his ass like a metal head. So he would like I don't know what he would do but he wrap it all up like a seek and [ __ ] tuck it in this [ __ ] tie it under his chin and stuff. He had this whole [ __ ] scuba thing that he would put on his head roll. A lot of the black belts in the gym, they're like, you know, we used to this think he was a weird guy. Look at him. [laughter] Hilar Look at him. He's so pretty. Beautiful face. What lips? Look at his features. I'm I'm just happy when people come to go, "Hey, Eddie." I go, "No, it's Russell." And I'm like, "All right." They think you look like Eddie. They think I look like I posted a picture of him and I and I uh uh we're together and I go, "We are not the same person." Why? Who the [ __ ] thinks you guys?

94:15A lot of people think because of my hair and his hair, you know. Okay. And you know, I guess the those people need to go to maybe big eyes. Hey man, I'm happy when they make that when they think I'm him. They just see pictures. They go it must be Eddie. You ever seen Eddie do stand up? Uh, I've been in the room when he's done it, bro. He's got some funny [ __ ] cuz he's nuts. He's [ __ ] funny. He is funny because he's insane. Insane, but he's got some bits about uh Well, I don't want to give away the premises. I'll [ __ ] it up, but he made me laugh. Like, legitimately, they made me laugh. And he uh I started getting him to do open mic nights like God, five, six years ago, maybe. Way long time ago. And he quit. He did it like this was like 2003, somewhere around then. Is uh Sam out here now? Tripoli? No. No, I don't believe so.

95:01Where did he move to? Didn't he move? Did he move? I heard he moved. I don't know. So, LA's kind of opening up again, right? Yeah, I think the store opened this past weekend. Yeah. You're the Pied Piper, though. Everybody came out. Joe's going. We're going. Well, it's good. Great place. There's a lot of clubs out here now. Aren't you Are you opening one? Mhm. Yeah. When's that happening? It's complicated. I'll tell you off air. There's a lot going on. It's uh When it eventually does open, I would love to play it. You will? That would be great. When it does, 100% you will. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, when when I send up the bat signal, uh you'll be one of the first people I call. It's um opening up one of these things takes a lot. There's a lot of [ __ ] that has a lot of red tape. A lot of red tape. Yeah. There's a lot of things have to happen. It's uh But

95:44it's a perfect storm situation. Yeah. But it's interesting. I love being out here though. I'll tell you that. I'm enjoying it. Like it a lot? Very much. Have you done a lot of hunting? No. No. I haven't done any hunting since I've been here. There's got to be some good hunting out here though. Yeah, there's hunting and then there's like air quotes hunting where it's like you're in a [ __ ] fenced in area. Yeah, that's like some of that out here. It's like fishing in a stocked uh pond. Yeah, a small stocked pond. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. Like they have feeders. They do hunting over feeders here. So, they have this like these feeders that drop food and then these animals like get accustomed to the feeder going off every day like 9:00 a.m., right? So, people sit there in a tree stand at 9:00 a.m. waiting for these animals to come and get their food.

96:25It's not good. Well, it's it's one thing if you're trying to eradicate like if you have like pigs and you're trying to eradicate an an invasive species like wild pigs, right? Then I understand why you'd have a feeder. But it's just it's harvesting more than it's hunting. You're not you're not going out in the wild looking for a wild animal. You're you're trying you're kind of tricking them. That's not fair. What is fair? You have a gun. It's It all gets weird, right? It's like when you know people like the non hunter like, "Yeah, if you're a real man, you use a [ __ ] knife." Okay, if I was a real man, I'd use my hands. Why would I use even use a knife? That seems stupid. Yeah, use a [ __ ] use your hands. says, "Well, then I'd starve to death." Like, what are you saying? That's one of the things in this book, uh, A Land So Strange. Mhm.

97:15It details the Native Americans and their persistent hunting. Persistence hunting where they would chase these animals down and just run after them until they drop dead. What was Vodaka um hunting with? Well, they were doing whatever they could to get by. They weren't just hunting like they ate dogs. They ate [ __ ] They deer [ __ ] They They literally ate anything they could find. They were at the verge of starving to death multiple times and a lot of them did. It's it's a crazy book, man. It's just crazy to think that because it's it's all about the weaponry. The Europeans came with what I don't know what they came with, but you know, they looked at the native of the native people as as savages, but really the natives had their [ __ ] together. Well, they definitely had their [ __ ] together in terms of they had See,

97:59that's one of the things I I'll give you some spoilers. When the the the Spaniards came here, they had horses and rifles, right? They had musketss and guns. And as the when they lost their ships and when they got shipwrecked and they when they got stuck here, they uh they realized that they were [ __ ] and there was no food. So, they started eating their horses and then they started taking their rifles and melting them down to turn them into [snorts] axes so that they could cut down trees so they could build rafts. so they could get out of there. They realized they were in this terrible situation and they ate all their horses and then they melted down all their rifles and then they had to deal with angry natives. It's It's crazy. It's really interesting. It's I I'm become just completely engrossed in those kind of stories. All these Native

98:49American I've read like now it's probably like eight or nine books on Native American life because the you know the story is being told properly now. Yes. It's not being told as these people were savages and we came to tame them. Right. Right. It was more of a Oh, hold on. There's two sides to the story here. Yeah. Well, I think Yeah. I think they told a convenient story for the long time. Of course, that's what we learned growing up. Yeah. Now they're telling a story that's like way deeper and way crazier and just it makes you think how if you could go back just a few hundred years and see If you had a fastforward camera died, but if you got a fast forward camera and like could see, you know, you fast forward video like what it was like to go from nothing where Chicago is to Chicago, you know, like how was that movie with Angelina Jolie?

99:43Wasn't that the one? Oh, no. It was Scarlett Johansson where she uh traveled all the way back in time. Oh, Lucy. Yeah. Remember at the end of it? Oh, yeah. That was when she she took that crazy drug that turned her [snorts] into a god. Yes. Good movie. I like that movie. But the ending part was pretty wild where they I like when they did that, you know. Yeah. Yeah, that movie was weird. You know what I watch on YouTube a lot is uh they found all those film footage of people driving like in they colorized some of it, you know, the 1800s and the early 1900s New York City or whatever and you see the horse and carriages in the city. They colorized it. Yeah. Some But it's not very well colorized. Everything ends up being purple. Everyone's wearing purple for some reason. Oh, really? I guess that's the way the colors showed up. What did they wear back then? Were they

100:26in a purple? They probably didn't have a lot of dyes back then. This is supposed like the first fight caught on film. They could be just be [ __ ] around cuz no one's reacting to them. But or maybe people That guy's throwing sand at him. Back it up. Let me see it from the beginning. Technique. It's that old school technique. It's from 1901. It's 20 seconds of film. You'll find they didn't know [ __ ] about leg kicks back then. [snorts] Look at that guy jumping up and down for no reason. I think they're fighting. I think they're drunk and they're fighting and they just both suck. They look like they're like leaving work or something. Yeah. Oh, they're fighting, dude. Hey, what's that rumor that you were going to fight? What is that rumor? Have you not heard that rumor? What's the rumor? The Joe Rogan's going to have an MMA fight.

101:09I swear to God, that rumor's been floating around on Twitter too long. I see people, hey, did you hear Joe's fighting? I go, is he really? I was like, I can't see him doing that. You don't think I would tell you? I'm not doing that. Yeah, it was a that was a pretty good that was a pretty it had some it had some legs for a minute. Is this recently? Yeah, in the past month. Thank god I'm not online. I'll pay attention. It was uh somebody said, "Yeah, Joe Rogan's going to fight." And I'm like, "Really?" Incorrect. Not interested. No. Trying to keep what little brain damage I have to a minimum. I mean, it would be pretty. I'm sure [ __ ] people would pay a fuckload of money to see me fight somebody. But yeah, see me get my ass kicked. That's what they No, I don't think that would I'd have to fight someone that people hate.

101:46Yeah. Uh, I don't I don't see it as a as a as a as a wash. I'm not interested. Would you fight somebody? I don't know. You don't know. Not thinking about it. Not I mean, if the money was right, it probably would you if somebody came along with a big money fight like you and Aizanari? Well, give me somebody who would be able [laughter] to [ __ ] defend themselves. You know, I want to see a slaughterfest. All right. Who Who would you uh who do you think you'd match up well with? I don't know. It would have to be It would have to be somebody in a in the same age bracket, I would imagine. Right. who has some sort of uh training at some point. You know, I don't want to be but at the same time, I wouldn't want them to be too tough, you know. I don't know what my intestinal fortitude is like nowadays. Well, you'd have to train more than once a week, too.

102:28Yeah. You I'd go into full training camp. Full training camp. Full training camp. If I was going to fight somebody, I'd go into a full training camp. I How many months? [clears throat] Three at least. Three months. That's all you'd need to get ready for? I would say, you know, I would say three to five. But I mean, what would you like if I gave you an ideal time? Five months. Yeah. really just get my [ __ ] together. The first month would be, you know, getting your getting your mental right. Getting your mental right. That's a whole month at least. Yeah. You got to get How do you do that? You got to break habits. Break habits. You got to break bad habits. You got to break the sleeping in. You got to break the booze would be easy to get rid of. I don't, you know, I like it, but it's not like an important thing to me. I, you know, I can go without drinking.

103:08That's not a big deal to me. Cigars. I do love. You know what? It's your fault, by the way, that this Buffalo Trace is now in my life. It's good stuff. It's [ __ ] fantastic. Have a little There you go. Look at my little Joe Rogan cup here. There you go. Good. That's a lot. Cheers. Cheers, pal. Cheers, my brother. Don't Don't go fighting anybody. I'm not fighting anybody. You crazy. I was trying. Chad Johnson's supposed to fight and I can't find out. Yeah. Who he's going to fight? They've only said who he's not going to fight. Well, maybe they don't have a fight set for him. Oh, it's on Triller. Yeah, it's on the Mayweather Logan Paul card. Really? June 6th. Really? Now, is Mayweather fighting both of them or is he just fighting the one? He's just fighting the one. He's fighting Logan. What do you think's going to happen there?

103:53I mean, listen, you can't I don't care if you [ __ ] like boxing and and you look good doing it. You're not going to beat the fun of the best fighters ever. It's just not the [ __ ] way the world works. I know. But isn't it funny that he's like 50 lbs lighter? Yeah, cuz [clears throat] he doesn't give a [ __ ] It's kind of funny though. It's not the firstif guy 50 pounds heavier than him. He's lit up. He's probably lit him up in the gym. You know, Caleb Plant Caleb Plant was the whipping boy in in the Mayweather gym before, was he? He was the guy that got his ass beat by everybody. And then he became the top guy. But I always say the more you get your ass whooped the and you don't like it, the more you're going to get better at not getting your ass whooped. You know, I'm not that familiar with Caleb Plant. I know he's really good,

104:30but I don't I don't think I've seen any of his fights. I mean, listen, and let's call it what it is. Let's call it what it is. Doesn't mean Canelo will beat him, but but that's that doesn't mean Caleb's a a pushover by any means. Pull up some Caleb Plant highlights. You know who I'm a big fan of? Tapimo Lopez. Oh, I love that kid. That [ __ ] can crack. Yeah. And both my kids are half Honduran. So, that's kind of Oh, yeah. There you go. Little little little soft spot for me there. He can crack. He can crack. I just I just want him to have a couple of more fights before he steps it up. Steps it up. I mean, he beat Lmanenko. He did beat Lmanoko, but I mean Lmanko had a year off. Lmanenko didn't look good. Um, that's not to negate anything Tioimo did. Tioimo is the truth for sure. What is Caleb playing undefeated? Uh, he maybe I don't know. [clears throat]

105:21There's [snorts] a guy I was watching last week. He had 28. You look at the way he comes in now. I mean, that's because of, you know, years of getting into into wars in the gym. So, he was a Mayweather guy. He was a Mayweather guy. He was in the gym. He was a young kid. I think um a friend of mine who who worked for Mayweather, dude, look at his head. Reminded me that I saw Caleb in the gym the one time I went to go watch Mayweather train and I think he said Caleb must have been four or five and0 at that time. He looks slick and uh but he's he's one of those guys that really [ __ ] puts his nose to the grind and and and and fixes his mistakes as well. It's kind of one of those things, man, where when you that short left hook, you see that's a that's a Mayweather thing right there. When you're facing a guy like Canelo Alvarez that's so good right now,

106:11he's like you, it's just hard to get to those RPMs without having the kind of fights that Canel's had, without having those two Triple G fights, without having that fight with Mayweather, without having the fight with Danny Jacobs, without having all the James Kirkland fight. all those fights where he built up to where he is now. Highprofile where Caleb obviously is very skillful. He hasn't had those high-profile big fights. It's so hard to just pressure attached with it. Yeah. Now watching him starch Billy Joe Saunders like that and Saunders is a good fighter. He's a very good fighter. Undefeated. Super tough. Super slick. Yep. And to see him crack him like that just the consequences of missing and getting countered by Canelo are so high. Canelo sets traps the in from from the first round. We did it to Amir Khan. I was at that

106:58fight and Amir was looking great, but I was I was noticing that um that he kept whacking Amir to the body and he was getting a red spot there. Mhm. And eventually you're going to want to defend that area cuz it's going to hurt and the minute you drop that hand, he set you up. Yeah. He set you up from the first round. He He's a monster. The fact that he knocked out Kovalev like Jesus Christ. Kovalev's a light heavyweight. I know Kovalev had seen better days by the time that fight came around, but the fact that he stopped him like that, just beat him up. Kovalev was an interesting one because he was very dominant and then all of a sudden just fell apart after Andre Ward. Booze, buddy. [laughter] Booze did him in. Booze. A lot of things did him in, but apparently he likes to drink. Oh, well, he's Russian. You know, they do like their vodka. And uh also, you

107:49know, Andre Ward crushed him, you know, especially that second fight. In the first fight, arguably he could have won that fight. You know, it would be nice if Ward came Well, they offered it to him after the Kovalev fight. And uh I admire Andre Ward greatly. I think he's an he's a one of the best examples of what a guy can do if he just decides I'm done. He wins an Olympic gold medal. He wins two world titles in two different weight classes, retires undefeated, and did most of it with one arm, right? Did most of it without having a right shoulder. Eventually, the bank will catch up with you. The money will get right and you'll come out. You think so? You think he will? There's the talk of Lennox fighting Mike. Yeah, but Lennox is different than Andre, you know. I mean, Lennox is going to be 55 or 56 years old this year. Yeah. Um,

108:41Lennox is going to do it apparently. I talked to him on the phone. I was with he was at my house last week. Um yeah, we talked about but he said if he does it, he's going to go into a full [ __ ] training camp. Well, he needs a lot of time because he's not really [clears throat] Oh, he's he's been dropping weight. He's been dropping weight. He's looking good, right? But he hasn't really been working out. No, but Lennox is also a very mentally strong man. Oh, yeah. He's got that He's got that thing. Yeah. Well, he's [ __ ] Lennox Lewis. It's true. He is. At the end of the day, if he's alive, he's still Lennox Lewis. He's always throwing punches at me. Is he? face always. There's also today there's pharmaceutical interventions, you know, you can he's not that guy work around age. Yeah, he's he's he looks great. Yeah.

109:21You know, when he's at the house, people like, "How old are you?" And he's like Black don't crack. Black don't crack. Brown don't frown. Yeah. Well, he's just he also retired with his wits about him, too, you know. Plays a lot of chess. Always played chess. Yeah. And back gaming. He's good, right? He's good at chess, right? Ranked, right? He's very, very good. And uh and a focus that I'll never have for chess. For anything, he does. When he won, he's very competitive in that in that regard. Do you have any game that you play? I really wish I did. Why don't you pick one up? Do you play jiu-jitsu? It's kind of a game. It is. Jiu-jitsu is a jiu-jitsu is a [ __ ] incredible game. I always tell people it's it's great for every part of your body. Do you get into open classes? Yeah, absolutely. [clears throat] How often do you roll in with like

110:09strangers? I'll roll with some guys I know first and then after I warm up then I'll then I'll roll with some strangers. You know, I'm always a little leerary of strangers because I'm like, I don't want this guy to [ __ ] Hey, [ __ ] up Russell Peters. Yeah. So, I I start light with people because I'm like, I want to see where you're at. I want to see what kind of game you want to roll with me and then they step and I put the gas on when I when I have to put the gas on. Yeah. Some people love to [ __ ] if they know who you are, they love to attack. Yeah. But you got to be prepared for that. I mean, if you're going to be in there Yeah. There's no halfway about it. Well, that's one good thing about the ghee is you can kind of slow down a lot of [ __ ] like that. Yeah. It's like no, guys. It's like holding on

110:46to a slippery dolphin like, "Hey, where are you going?" Yeah. The first six minutes you're okay. And then, you know, once once you start sweating, it's Yeah. It's like trying to juggle a bar of soap. How much no gee do you do? Not very much. That's why you should go to Eddie's. Go and learn some of that stuff. It'll apply. John Jack and I will do uh no ghee every now and then. Unlike hot days, I'll do it because I'm like, I don't want to wear the [ __ ] ghee. It's too hot, right? So, I go, "No problem." And then he beats my ass with no ghee. Is uh is his gym open for the general public? Do you have to wear masks? What do you have to do? Oh, yeah. The the uh city's been coming down on him. [clears throat and cough] Yeah. Real [snorts] real bad. But I think uh hopefully, you know, once everything opens up. Yeah. Maybe he'll have to just COVID test people.

111:27Yeah, he does. He's doing the mass and COVID and a lot of times it's just a lot of uh calisthenics and stuff they're doing in the gym. If they can drop the price of tests down very low, you could really eliminate a lot of the problems, you know. Yeah, it's a it's it's unnecessarily expensive. I don't know about that. I don't know what the process of developing a rapid antigen test is. Maybe it's not, but they are kind of expensive. Do you pay the lady that does this one here? No, she works for free. What do you think? I mean, I don't know. I mean, you know, a lot of times people do it just to, you know, say I Oh, of course. Yeah. To build a resume. I pay them. I've been testing people since since day one. April of last year. Yeah. Yeah. When we locked down, we uh we started testing the moment they got tests. The moment we could get tests.

112:17You're always at the forefront of things though. So, well, I realized that got a responsibility to do that. And then, you know, I also wanted to figure out what do I have to do to stay healthy. I don't want to get sick. And then as time went on, you know, I kind of realized what you you have to do in terms of healthwise and, you know, and I I go pretty above and beyond in that department. Well, you got to protect it. Yeah. You got to protect what you've got. I mean, this is not a you know, this is not a mom and pop business you're running here. Well, it's not just that. I wanted to keep doing it, man. I know a lot of people that had real mental health problems because they didn't do [ __ ] this year. my comic friends that don't have podcasts or you know did I you know there was a lot of people that I talked to like deep into July and August that

113:00hadn't seen a single [ __ ] person the entire lockdown they had done nothing but go to the grocery store and then go home they hadn't done anything and they mentally they suffered there was a there's a that's a thing man there's especially comics we're very you know we think too much yeah well it's why we do what we do I think if you're not a thinker it's probably a lot easier to get through life you know you just kind of go with the flow and accept what people tell you. I don't even know about that, man. I think critical thinkers really really uh suffered last year. I think so. But I think everybody suffered. I think it's [ __ ] hard for people when the world gets weird, you know, and you get nervous, you get anxiety. Yep. You know, I never really let it weigh my brain down cuz I had so many other problems going on. I was like, you know what?

113:41That's the last thing I need to [ __ ] add into this mix. Well, that's good. You know, and you kept up with the vitamins and everything. Yeah, the vitamins I've been on for many years now. And I really think that saved my ass a lot. High high doses of vitamin D I was on for years and I didn't realize the uh you know I didn't I didn't know it was going to benefit me in the long run but I'm glad it did. Well it's a big one for brown folks too you know. Yeah. You know you're not the darkest skin guy but if you think about like people that are like dark black it's a real issue man because it's hard to get that vitamin D just from the sun. You know, the whole reason why they have that dark pigment is the body is protected from the sun, the sun's rays. But that makes it more difficult to get melanin. Whereas a guy like Canelo,

114:24which is hilarious that he's Mexican, he's the whitest [ __ ] guy that's ever lived. He's very Richie Cunningham. It is hilarious, isn't it? I like that he's learned English, though. Oh, he's getting better. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see the the post fight with Boo Andrade calling him out? What is that about? You never fought anybody. When he said you didn't fight anybody. Yeah. Well, Canelo said to him he didn't fight anybody. But he said to Canelo, "Who the [ __ ] have you fought?" He's like, "Who have I fought?" Yeah. You fought nobody. Get out. Yeah. Get the [ __ ] out. I mean, who can he fight though to make a name? Like, everybody wants that big name. They want to fight Canelo. But who can Andrade fight to get Well, everybody wants to get paid now. It's all about everyone's really driven by the dollar nowadays,

115:03but it's got to be It's got to make sense, right? No one's calling for that fight other than him, right? Who I mean, who are you calling for other? I mean, he's the top of the food chain. That's what you want. You got Caleb Plant. You got Triple G. Those are the only people that anybody's calling. And then he's gonna have to move up if he wants to or Andre Ward comes back. Yeah, that'd be great. I'd like to see that. I don't think he's gonna I love the fact that he said I'm I'm a better servant of boxing if I just I can serve boxing better as a commentator and uh just being a representative of the sport and also super articulate, has zero problems with his speech, you know, no sign of brain damage at all. Everything's smooth, handsome, in shape, still fit, still works out. He's gained a little though. I notic a little chubbiness on it.

115:47Get the [ __ ] out of here. You You've seen his Instagram. Not like [ __ ] fat, but I mean like, you know, he's not obvious not a walking weight and not a fight weight. You know what I mean? How dare you shut your mouth. Go to go to Andre Ward's Instagram and watch there's some videos of him uh shadow boxing. Dude, he looks as crisp as ever. He looks smooth as [ __ ] Did you hear that Tony is fighting? Look at this. Where are you seeing fat? You shut your mouth. Your dirty, filthy mouth. Russell Peters, come on. How the [ __ ] could you say he looks fat? When is this from? Yesterday. Yeah, right, dude. It's from like a week ago. I'm not bullshitting. I said 10 weeks, but it's not that long. It's a deep fake. Come on, bro. That's [laughter] him looking smooth as [ __ ] [clears throat]

116:28Just two of these. There's two of these. That doesn't go away. I'm just saying is What do you mean that doesn't go away? He's thin, Russell. He looks good. I mean, there's another one. Look at this one. He's not in my shape. Shut your hole. Your dirty stinking hole. Look at that. Come on, Russell. He misses it. Look, you see when a fighter does all that, he's like, you could tell he misses it. Um, I'm sure he misses it, but he doesn't miss it to the point where he wants to come back. He said them hands still work. Fighters that [laughter] put fighters that put videos on like this are trying to bait you into offer him a lot of money to do something. Well, that is the most compelling fight for Canelo by far. by far. It would sell a fuckload of money. But if you were Andre Ward, don't you think it would be wise to not go straight into Canelo Alvarez?

117:13Yeah, you'd need one tuneup and he'd be back. Who do you think you would fight? I maybe Andrade. It'd be good. That'd be good. Uh if he lights him up. Yeah. Lights up a guy who's very active and I'm saying it's a lot of interesting things out there. Yeah. I'm not even familiar with James Tony's apparently fighting Shannon Briggs. Is that true though? I that's what I heard. I'm gonna I'm gonna call Shannon after this is what I've gotten from Shannon Briggs Instagram because he's talking [ __ ] about James Tony virtually every day. Listen, you know, but but that's that's again that's that's Shannon. Yeah. You know, uh he's the best. Shannon's got a good weed company going. Let's go Champ. Um have you been on the road at all? I've been on the road a lot. How when did you start? Uh I started taking dates late June last year. Yeah.

118:02Yeah. And then uh you know it picked up then it died down. picked up, died down according to the waves. Um, but since January, I've been going pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Florida did a lot of Florida work. Really? Atlanta. Um, Florida doesn't give a [ __ ] I was like, they were socially their social distancing is six inches apart. Yeah. They don't they don't give a [ __ ] But here's the thing is it it it's not affecting people. That's what's crazy in terms of like the numbers. It's, you know, I love it. I love the idea of giving people the opportunity to do whatever they want to do. We're not talking about the black plague, folks. you know, let people do what they want to do. Florida lets people do what they want to do. Yeah. Let you make your own decision and you can't blame anybody. The problem is we've taken accountability away from

118:42everybody because everybody has the ability or the right to sue anybody they want. Well, also we've given these [ __ ] crazy people this free license to scream at someone to put a mask on. There's this thing that people do even when you're outside like California, they love it. They love doing that in California. I feel guilty when I'm eating and I have my mask off. I'm like, I I want to hold the food up high so nobody I don't I don't want any altercations. I don't want to have to tell you to go [ __ ] yourself. You know what I mean? Like, is there any place that tells you to put a mask on in between bites of food? I I've heard that on a on some flights. I've heard um if you're eating Yes. Uh lower your mask, eat, and then I'm like, I'm not going to [ __ ] get crumbs and food all up in my [ __ ] mask. Well,

119:24the thing is about flights, uh, flights are relatively safe apparently because they have the hepailters. The hepailters that they have on flights are and nobody's caught it from a flight. I don't I don't I don't know that to be true, but I don't know if that's true. And if they have, it's, you know, I think there was a lady that caught it. She thinks she caught it from a bathroom, but how the [ __ ] do you know where you caught it from? Because you don't feel sick for a couple days and then you're like, "Oh, the flight. I went in the bathroom. That's where I got it." Like, yeah. I mean, it's it's based on the information they think they have. Yeah, it's not based on anything. It's based on here's what seems like a good answer. What have the crowds been like on the road? Amazing. Happy, right? Happy. They're all happy to be out, you

120:03know, I'm and getting good responses in places I've gotten no response before. So, do you think you're getting ready to do a special? No, I I will. Um I will. I want to go on tour first and get that act right. Get juicy. Get nice and juicy. Yeah, cuz this next one's going to be my 10th special. 10th special. Goddamn Russell Knox, you know, my man. So, out there slinging dick for over a decade. So, uh, that's awesome. But I want to make sure this is a good special, too. Like, you know, it's got to matter. It's, you know, I don't want to put the pressure on myself, but at the same time, you know what? I don't want to give them any fluff, right? Especially postco, right? And, you know, you got guys like you and Dave and and Darnell and everybody coming out with really solid [ __ ] stuff now. And it's a really it really it's good for the game because it makes

120:50everybody think harder. Well, it's there's a high level of comedy out right now for sure, you know, and you're seeing it, you know, I'm really impressed with the local Austin scene. Really impressed. Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of these kids kill Tony. Yeah. I didn't realize how big the scene was out here. It's big and it's gotten a lot bigger since we moved here and they've opened up quite a few clubs, you know. There's um uh Creek in the Cave, which I'm there Wednesday and Thursday this week with Tony and Whitney and Joe List. Um is Whitney out here now? No, she's she's thinking about moving out here, but she's just coming out here to visit. Um they have uh Sunset com Sunset Trip Comedy Club. They have the Romo Room. They have Vulcan Gas Company. So that's just And then they're going to open up the um the new version of Cap City,

121:33which is going to be in the domain. And then I'm going to open up my place. Do you have a name for yours yet? No, I can't tell you. I'll tell you off air. Okay. Yeah, I got a name. But I got plans, Russell. I know. I like that. It's it's it's complicated to get these plans off. It's interesting. Like it's a lesson, you know. I've never done this before. So, it's a lesson. Yeah. It's one of those things, you know, you're you've worked in the clubs for so long, so you know what's wrong with them and what not to do. Well, I also know what's right with them by working at the store, right? And I I want to emulate that environment, make it as comfortable as possible for the comics. And that's my main goal. Make it a fun place where comics can call home. So, you got a home base. You got a place where you can go. You know, you're going

122:12to be safe. You can go [ __ ] around. Yep. We're going to use those um bags. bags for sure and gonna have good food, nice staff. I want everybody to be treated well and paid well. I want everybody to feel good about working there. Yeah. And my goal is not to make any money. My goal is just to not lose any money. That's my goal. That's a good goal. That's all I want to do. I just want to make it nice. Well, it's different when you come from this side of it. Yeah. You know, you're not coming into it as a businessman. You're coming into it as a guy who cares about the art and a guy who's in a position where I can do something fun. I can actually make something happen. I really can do it, you know? So, I feel like I have to I feel like I'm supposed to. It's like, you know, I could just think about myself, but I I really feel like I can

122:52do a service for the comedy community and and help. I really do. Yeah. So, that's what I like. You're what, 33 years in the game, too, as well? Yep. Yep. So, you're going to year on me? Yeah. Whoa. Crazy times, kid. Yeah. It'll be 33 years in artist. Yeah. I'm 32 in November. [clears throat] Isn't that nuts? Yeah, it is. Imagine when you started out thinking that you'd be doing it 32 years later. I I always thought I would. I just didn't know that where I would be. I just figured I would be a a road comic. You know, I felt like I would be a physical wreck 30 years later. I'd be like, "Oh my god." Like, "What is it like to be a 53y old just broken?" I mean, I go back home, I go back to Canada and I'm like, "Wow." I see the guys that I came up with and they're still doing the same [ __ ] act and I'm like, that's the problem with getting stuck in

123:37an island, you know? Get stuck in a little comedy island. It's not like their their act is bad. It's a fantastic act and it's fully polished, but you got to you got to reach a little, you know what I mean? You got to get out there. The game changed. It's not like you come up with your one act like it was in the 70s and 80s and then that's what you're known for. You got to you got to continuously reinvent yourself. I've seen guys from the 80s that are still doing the same act. I know it's Boston Boston guys. Yeah. I've seen guys and I'm like, "Oh my god, this is insanity." It's still funny, but you know, it's like uh it's it's stale to them, though. Once it's stale to them, it's stale to everybody else, too. It's got to be fresh to you. It's one of the best things about new material is that it's fresh to you. Well, that's that's I think that determines

124:17who you are as a comic. If you're that if you're the comic that cares about this a lot, you're going to continuously grow. Yeah. And I think that applies to almost everything you're trying to do in life. You you want to be challenged. You want things to be exciting. You know, you want things that are like you have to really think and work hard at it. That way when it comes out and it's done, you feel good. Well, that separates career from job. Yes. and passion from occupation because I think the guys that I saw growing up that are still doing the same act look at it as a job. This is how it's the only way I'm going to make money. There's guys like that that are like tradesmen, you know, they could have been a plumber but instead they became a comic. Yeah. They just, you know, they figured it out this and then they're like, "Ah, [ __ ] That's fine."

124:58Price check, tampons, aisle two, price check. That's the worst when you hear about guys that you knew that had a lot of talent and they're like, "What are you doing now?" I'm like, "I'm driving [ __ ] Uber." And you're like, "Oh, boy." M yeah, it's hard out there, bro. It's hard. But we're the lucky ones, you know. We're the lucky ones. Better than being Cababesa Devaka eating dogs. Well, you know, and dear [ __ ] making your way across the country on the old deer [ __ ] omelette. Imagine if you would. How'd they get chickens? How did they get? Chickens. Where did these chickens come from? Domestic chickens. Yeah, that's a good question. They probably came over on boats, right? What's the Okay, that's Let's Let's ask this question. Where did domestic chickens come from? H their origin, right? Because I've seen wild chickens in Mexico. Mhm.

125:47You ever seen those? Yeah, they got for the [ __ ] fights or No, just like wild chickens. It's like a type of chicken. You like if you go to um um Portoarta that was staying at a resort and these birds are running around. I'm like, "What is that?" They're like, "It's a type of wild chicken." I was like, "What? Forget what they call it." I mean, obviously they're edible. Most birds are edible. Yeah, most animals are edible. That's the thing. Most plants are not edible. Chickens were likely first domesticated about 5,400 years ago in Southeast Asia. Although archaeological evidence of wild chickens goes back even further to a 12,000y old site in northern China. Once domesticated though, chickens were brought westward to Europe and e uh and eastsoutheast into Oana. What's Oiana? Oceanana. Um, that's probably goes back to Pangia, maybe. I don't know.

126:40I was reading about my people. They found uh which ones? Neandertols. They found uh [laughter] uh evidence that a bunch of Neanderls have been killed by hyenas in a cave in Italy. Wow. Yeah. I was like, for sure. That's where my DNA comes from. You're a hyena caveman. Well, eaten by hyenas, man. That's a rough way to go, man. Yeah. Hyenas would eat you in a horrible way. They're not They're not the most friendly animals. Yeah, they probably break your ankle, so you can't run. They're from the dog family, wouldn't they be? Are they canines to imagine? By eating them, hyenas gathered nine Neanderl skeletons in one cave. The Andls appeared to have met a very bad end, so they just dragged them into the cave. Gh. Archaeologists in Italy recently unearthed the remains of at least 90 and in uh Guatari cave near the how [snorts] do you say that? Terraneian terranian sea sea

127:38about 100 kilograms southeast of Rome while excavating a previously unexplored section of the cave. Archaeologists from the archaeological superintendent of Latina and the University of Tor Vata recently unearthed broken skulls, jawbones, teeth, and pieces of several other burns bones which they say represent at least nine Neandertols. That brings the cave's total to at least 18. Oh, 10. Uh, anthropologist Alberto Carlo Blancc found a Neanl skull in another chamber in 1939. Oh, wow. So, they've been finding them there forever. Italy was a very different place 60,000 years ago. Hyenas along with other pleaosene carnivores, stalked rhinoceroses, wild horses, [clears throat] and extinct extinct wild boine called or rocks and people and people. What? Hyenas eating people. Those [ __ ] Wow. Neandertols were prey to these

128:39animals. Hyenas hunted them, especially the most vulnerable, like sick or elderly individuals. Wow. That's rough. No. Hyenas are like the diesel coyotes. They're just [ __ ] nasty animals, man. They're just nasty. They're evil and they're very mean looking. Just the yelling and the laughing. Like, where'd that come from? You imagine that's the [ __ ] you hear when you have a broken ankle. You're like, "Fuck." Yeah. You know, you're trying to get get away and you [laughter] they're all circling you. They get excited, snapping at you. That's their happy noise, you know. [snorts] Yeah. It's funny how like animals that are creepy look creepy. Like vultures. Vultures are creepy. They got bad posture, but they just look they look like they are, you know, like dead animal eating [ __ ] with [ __ ] red disgusting necks. Ah,

129:32don't like uh the bottom feeders. A Have you ever seen a Tibetan sky funeral? You ever seen that? What's that, bro? It's rough. It's a ritual that they do in Tibet where um they feed their dead to vultures. And the the idea is that there's no reason to waste someone's body by putting it in the ground. You're better serving earth and nature and life by feeding it to the vultures. So they would take these people's bodies and they cut them open and even break open the bones and slice all the meat and then leave them out there for the vultures and the vulture. There's there's really graphic images of these and still happens. Yeah. Yeah. They're recent photographs. That's not uh it's not the way I want to go. Not the way you want to go or not what they you want them to do with your body. Yeah. I don't know if I want that done to me after I'm dead.

130:23I don't know, man. I mean, like, what's the point of rotting and being eaten by bacteria, but here's why we're [ __ ] We don't even let bacteria eat people. We we [ __ ] embalm them with this disgusting toxic [ __ ] So, here it is. Sky burial tradition becomes controversial tourist attraction. So, people are filming it, which is very odd. It was the monk of the car that we saw. So, these people just sitting around. So, this is [clears throat] Yeah. Do they have any [snorts] actual photographs? Not really. You can't really tell what they're eating to be honest with you. Flying. Yeah. So, they they I mean, at least you're getting swarmed and not picked at by one. You know what I mean? It's Well, they're accustomed to it. That's what's going on. It's like these birds have kind of been trained to do it. This

131:09is just a video. They're probably not going to show you too much in this video, but there's plenty of photographs where you can watch all of it and watch how they do it. And I don't think they'd allow you to show it on uh on YouTube. YouTube would want you to be vague about it. I this makes uh they're bringing back Faces of Death really, which I thought was a regular was not real though. The original Faces of Death was all fake. Some of it was very disturbing. There's another thing called Traces of Death that kind of got mixed in. I was sort of looking into this cuz I thought I'd seen Real Faces of Death in my past. I had the VHS's of it back in the day. Some of it I think for sure was fake, but there was a video that I saw where they tied this guy's legs to one bumper and they tied his arms to another bumper and that one was real as [ __ ]

131:56cuz that guy was screaming and they pulled him apart. But yeah, they're rebooting it for today for some reason. I don't know. They're going to make I don't know the remake like more fake footage or if they're going to I Hollywood's doing it. So like it was like [snorts] it like in variety.com said like reboot of you know faces of death for 2022. Good old Hollywood. They they love a good reboot. What does that mean though when they say like Hollywood's doing not like a official studio? Why would they do that? I guess maybe they realize Civilization is crash so hard. [ __ ] it. Let's just let's just go all out. They figure we're numb. Yeah, we're numb to it already. When I was joking around about Fear Factor back in the day, I used to say that we're like three seasons away from The Running Man. And we kind of are, right? Death reboot.

132:41Didn't they bring back Fear Factor for a minute? Ludicrous. That's right. Ludicrous hosted it. Yeah. It's, you know, it wasn't real Fear Factor, though. They They kind of like, you know, like you're going to lose your cell phone. Oh my god. You know what I mean? Like what's the fear? They It was low budget. Like to do Fear Factor correctly, you got to The reality is like the last season they went way too far. They risk people's lives. I think the season you were on. Yeah. They got lucky. I [clears throat] really believe that. I mean, not the season, but the very last season when we came back for one short amount of episodes. We did like six episodes. That one was risky. Like, they were doing some wild [ __ ] Like, were you into that? No, I didn't enjoy it. The last season I was like, we're going so far with these. I was nervous that someone was going to

133:26get Who's coming up with the ideas? Like, there's producers, not writers, not uh Well, I mean, you know, creative folks. Yeah. But what kind of warped creative folk do you have to be? ah [sighs] heavily warped. Yeah. You know, a lot of stunt guys and stunt guys are, you know, they're some risk-taking [ __ ] They're nutty. They have a different perception of like risk and reward. A lot of stunt guys in jiu-jitsu. Oh, yeah. A fuckload of them. Those are the guys I don't like rolling with cuz I'm like they know they know things we don't know. Well, they're also like accustomed to getting injured. They're they have a very high tolerance for pain. You know, my friend Tate did a lot of stunt. You remember Tate Fletcher? Yeah. He did a lot of stunt work and uh he's done a lot of acting too, you know. He was uh I watch John Wick a lot. It's

134:11like one of the things I like to watch when I work out. Which one? One. Number one. The good one. The original one. Two is pretty good. Three put me to sleep. Three was not as good as two or one, but it was still good. Still enjoyed it. I like Halle Berry, so I was a fan. Yeah. I watched Three in a movie theater in South Africa when I was on tour. Oh, yeah. And I fell asleep to the sound of the guns. Maybe you're just really tired. I I may have been, but the [laughter] I woke up when the gun stopped for a second. Yeah. And then I was like, "Oh." And then pop and went right back to sleep. Tree didn't have any muscle cars either. That was disappointing. But um um but Tate gets shot in John Wick in the the when the scene when they went to the Red Circle bar. Yeah, I remember. I remember seeing him in it. Yeah, he gets shot. Wasn't he an MMA fighter at one point?

134:54Oh, yeah. Yeah. Fought the Ultimate Fighter. That's right. Season I don't remember what season. Season Michael Bisping won. Yes. Yes. Yes. Um, but he was doing some stunt work and he suffered a really bad head injury. Really? Yeah. Really bad. And it [ __ ] him up for over a year. Like real bad. Um, I do not know is a stunt and during the stunt he hit his head really badly and um Oh, I think I heard the story. I think it was they had already done it once and he kind of got away with it and they were like, "We want to do another one." And even he was like, "I don't really want to do another one." And I think they made him do a second take and that's how he hurt himself. If I am quoting this correctly. I do not know but I know you know people [ __ ] die doing movies man. Yeah. You know it happens. Remember they when they did the uh

135:44well they did the Twilight Zone movie. Remember the helicopter accident? Oh yeah. That was horrific. That was really bad. That was horrific. Yeah. That video was horrific. Yeah. And then Bruce Lee's son Mhm. got Yep. How the [ __ ] did that happen? Well, they had a blank and uh the blank had some sort of particle that was uh in the cartridge. So, even though it was blank, there was a piece of something that shot out of the gun and hit him. Yeah. Yeah. So, I think they changed where you're allowed to shoot somebody in movies with blanks. Now, when you aim at someone with a blank, you have to like aim slightly off to the side. You don't actually aim at them anymore, right? Yeah. Especially with, you know, point of view shots, you can Yeah. Just a blank alone can kill you. There was a guy that uh I was friends with back in the day. He was an actor

136:32and one of his buddies was on the set and uh he had a blank gun and he thought it'd be fun to take the gun and put it to his head and pull the trigger and it killed him. Just the force of air coming out of the gun killed him. Yeah, that'll do it to you. There's a lot of pressure coming at you. Airbags will kill you, do they? Yeah, if they hit I remember getting in a car accident once and the airbag deployed on the steering wheel and I I don't know how I avoided getting hurt, but it hit my finger and my finger went black. It was like it [ __ ] hit hard. It was numb. That's why they say little kids shouldn't sit up front, right? Yeah. Cuz you get walloped by that [ __ ] airbag. Yeah. I I do think if you face the kid backwards in the front seat, it would probably be good, too, you know? Uh push the front seat back, put the car seat in backwards,

137:18they should be okay. I don't know. I don't think you're even supposed to do that. No, you're not allowed to. But I mean, you know, we grew up in the We grew up seat belt era. No seat belt era. And I remember drum brakes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. My dad had a 77 Hornet, AMC Hornet, orange one. And driving home from my aunt's house. I'd be like tired and I'd be like, "Dad, can I sit in the Because it was station wagon. I'm going to lay down in the backpack." We used to call it the backpack. There was the back and then there was the backpack. And he didn't give a [ __ ] He'd be taking turns. You're rolling around. Yeah. You could just do things with kids back then. You could tie them to the roof. Yeah, if you wanted to. Yeah, nobody gave a [ __ ] Sitting in the back of the in the back of a pickup truck was no big deal. There was no rules.

137:55There was no rules. And yeah, you didn't even have to have a seat belt on back then. And then they eventually came up with baby seats and bunch other What did they do before? They probably put a [ __ ] They probably put like a stroller and just shoved that stroller in the back seat and the kid just was stuck. You sit on your mom's lap and she would hold you. Oh, sit on your I remember sitting on my mom's lap and driving. But the people that made it through those eras, they were hardier folk. We apparently were a hearty. We're a hearty bunch. Us. Yeah. And the vaccinations left scars. Remember, you get that polio vaccine. Oh, yeah. That's how you And then there was the the immigrant scar, too. That's how people knew that you were immigrant. They go, "Oh yeah, I got my I got my scar." What was that from? Uh from whatever vaccination they got

138:35when they came to the new land. Was it polio? Wasn't it polio? It may It may have been a polio shot. Uh whatever it was that you would see people our age that would have like this little little circle. look like a burn mark almost on their arm. Remember how I mean not that we remember but it was so easy when my grandparents came over here. You just have to make Where did your grandparents come from? Italy. Most of them from Italy and my grandfather on my father's side from Ireland. Mhm. But they just had to get over here. Yeah. That was it. That was the trick. Yeah. Get over here and you're in. Yeah. I was watching that documentary on one of my flights recently about the uh the Chinese Exclusion Act. Have you seen that documentary? What's that? There was this whole act in the uh they they were showing about like the first Chinese guy that came to

139:17America and I think it was in the uh 1700s he came over and then he proved to be a good worker and eventually by the 1800s there was like 60,000 Chinese people and then for some reason America had a problem with them and they they had this exclusion act to um they had even allowed black people to be free and black people to vote but the Chinese were considered less than human. What? What year was this? This was in the 1800s. So this when 1882. Yeah. This is when they were working on the railroads a lot. Yeah. Then they let them come in and work on the railroad, but they wouldn't allow them to become citizens. Bro, you ever see photos of Chinese people working on the railroads? They're some of the bleakest photos. And they [snorts] all had their hair back. Like their foreheads were huge for some the way they would pull their hair back.

140:01They probably didn't want their hair to get stuck on the [ __ ] tracks. Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine train comes by and catches you by the hair. Oh yeah. They they uh they used them pretty badly. It's a horrific story. It's but the the photos we I was watching that uh Hulu uh docu series Sasquatch and uh it was talking a lot about, you know, like the people that they used to to make the railroads and to to mine and the people that that used to uh chop to cut down the trees up in the Pacific Northwest and up in uh Northern California. Yeah. the and there's these photos that they they showed of these Chinese folks that were working on those railroads and it's so depressing, man. Yeah. They were treated like [ __ ] And there's just no hope. You're not getting out of that. There's no upward mobility. There's no

140:53there's no future. Yeah. There's uh no promise. Yeah. And then they weren't allowing them to become US citizens even if they were born here. You know what's crazy? Even today, [clears throat] like in Harvard, it's more difficult for Asian people to get in than anybody else. Really? Yeah. There's a lawsuit about it right now. Yeah. Apparently, they have so many Asian folks that uh were getting into Harvard that they decided to specifically tailor their test to make it more difficult or their requirements or what they uh what they what See, I don't want to [ __ ] this up because uh Andrew Yang's people were the ones who were talking to me about it. One of the guys who came last time when Andrew Yang was here. Nice guy that Andrew Yang. He's a great guy. Yeah, [clears throat] he's a great guy. I hope he runs again. Well, he's going to run for mayor of um

141:43of New York City. He's running right now. And him and this other gentleman who was uh [sighs] I forget what he did, but this other guy carries a [ __ ] gun and he's talking about like ramping up police presence and uh he's a black guy and a lot of people are behind him and they think like this is what we need to turn the city around. like they need to respect law and order and they need to do something about the [ __ ] crime. There's a shooting spree in Time Square the other day where a four-year-old got shot. Woman and her daughter. So, here it is. Yeah. America's appeals court rules Harvard doesn't discriminate against Asian-American applicants. Oh, okay. So, this is a federal appeals court in Boston has ruled Harvard doesn't intentionally discriminate against Asian-American applicants. So, what was the argument?

142:29Because the there was a lot of Asian people that were insisting that that was the case. said the statistical evidence did not show that Harvard intentionally discriminated against AsianAmericans. Students for Fair Admissions, an advocacy advocacy group, uh first filed its lawsuit in 2014, saying it's Harvard that Harvard's racebased considerations for applicants discriminated against AsianAmerican students in process. Today's decision once again finds that Harvard's admission policies were consistent with Supreme Court's pre Supreme Court precedent and lawfully and appropriately pursue Harvard's efforts to create a diverse campus that promotes learning and encourages mutual respect and understanding in our community. It was like what is the argument though? Proponents for ending race-based considerations at US universities were

143:16unfased by Thursday's decision and plan to bring the case to the Supreme Court. So what does it say? What is the question? Okay. The question of how much race should be a factor in college applications is a hotly contested one. President Trump's administration has challenged college on using race in admission policies, claiming such practices violate federal law. Last month, the Department of Justice filed a lawsuit against Yale University, saying its policies violate the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Yale has said the lawsuit is baseless. What is school's admissions rules, though? That's what I'm confused with. Well, so does that mean uh external Chinese people or Chinese Americans? Um I I think I I just think just Asian period. Well, then when they do race, they don't they don't say they only want Africanameans. I mean, I'm Asian, you know what I mean?

144:08And Right. So, I mean, it's vague, right? But [clears throat] I mean, I can understand. You're candid. You're Canadian. It cancels everything out. It's true. It's true. Uh what is the racebased admission policy though that makes them say that they discriminated? What does it say? See if you can find Oh, look. They've tried to pop up ad you [ __ ] See if you can find what the argument is that Harvard does discriminate against Asians. But these guys that were with Andrew Yang, uh, they believed pretty strongly that that's what Harvard was doing. I mean, you know, there's a lot of those admissions tests that are raced, racially biased according to how you grew up and what you know, you know. So, I think what they tried to do is make it the person who wrote the test or whatever wrote it from their perspective. We need to fix society so that you never

144:58have to think about that [ __ ] at all. You know, oh, here it goes. In the lawsuit, plaintiffs claim that Harvard imposes a soft racial quota which keeps the number of Asian-Americans artificially low. The low percentage of Asians admitted to Harvard plaintiffs maintain was suspiciously similar year after year despite dramatic increases in the number of Asian-American applicants and the size of the uh Asian-American population. During the lawsuit, the plaintiffs gained access to Harvard's individualized admission files from 2014 to 19 and aggregate data from 2000 to 2019. The plaintiffs also interviewed and deposed numerous Harvard officials. From those sources, the plaintiffs revealed that Harvard admissions officers consistently rated Asian-American applicants as a group lower than others on traits like positive personality, likability, courage. Wow.

145:57Kindness, and being widely respected. What the [ __ ] Just think about what that says. They they rate you on positive personality, likability, courage, kindness, and being widely respected. Those are so vague. Well, I mean, you know, different different nationalities have different personalities. You know, different races have different ways of dealing with things and what may be considered offensive to one is not to the other. You know, or likable to me is not likable to you, for sure. But look what it says here. Asian-Americans scored higher than applicants of any other racial or ethnic group group on other admissions measures like test scores, grades, and extracurricular activities. But the students personal rating significantly dragged down their admissions chances. Wow, that's weird, man. That's I mean, I guess you'd have to talk to someone from

146:54Harvard and get them drunk and say, "What's really going on? Why do you have this likability, courage, kindness, and being wildly respective? And what is a positive personality? You have to be positive. What if you're like, "God damn it, I suck, but you work really hard." Like that's a negative personality, but you know, like you're maybe you have a negative opinion of yourself, but you work really hard. Maybe that's why you work hard because you don't think of yourself very It's weird, man. Harvard's admissions staff testified they did not believe that different racial groups have better personal qualities than others. But nevertheless, Asian applicants as a racial group receive consistently weaker personal scores over the period surveyed and Harvard admissions officers rated Asian-Americans with the worst personal qualities of any racial group. Wow.

147:41African-Americans on the other hand consistently scored the low the lowest on academic rating but the highest on the personal rating. But you know what personal rating that like makes me think about like that whole the the Chinese social score system. Oh yeah yeah yeah about that. I don't like that. That's a very weird thing because remember what we were talking about earlier about being woke right now. things that you and I think are completely acceptable, like you seeing a black lady with a Chinese guy in the audience and immediately going, "Wow, look at you breaking boundaries." Like, that's the kind of [ __ ] that you would do. That's not racist. It's racial. You're making humor that brings everybody together and gets everybody to laugh at the differences that we have. But if someone didn't know you, they would look at you and say, "Oh, he's

148:35racist and what he's doing is racist comedy." Right? And this is what people like to do today. Right? So you would get they don't know the difference between racial and racist anymore. They don't know what the difference is. They don't know what talking [ __ ] is. Which is why Shane Gillis got kicked off Saturday live. He's not a racist. He's talking [ __ ] When you talk [ __ ] especially when comics get together and talk [ __ ] We say silly things. We don't mean it. You know, we say silly things about ourselves, about our moms, about our family, about everything. It doesn't mean we we're racists. Like this is why it's so confusing. People are looking to quote mine or they're looking to like find especially with someone like me who's on a podcast for thousands and thousands and thousands of hours. You

149:13can find some dumb [ __ ] in there. You want to pretend that that's me. Well, that's on you because that, you know, that's you're you're you're playing a little game there. Well, it says more about them than it says about you. But it's also an effective game if people aren't paying attention because a lot of people don't want to listen. They don't have the time. So if they look at a short snippet or they take things out of context, they can just decide, "Oh, Russell Peters is a piece of [ __ ] instead of how I know you. You're a lovely guy. You're fun. You're a great guy to hang out with." [laughter] You know, I um [ __ ] I lost my words. Carry on. I was just saying this social score thing that they're doing in China is dangerous because what it does is it makes you follow this trend. It makes you keep along with whatever is

149:59acceptable. currently and you you lose your ability to think outside the lines or express yourself in any controversial way because you'll lose social score. The the problem is that people have forgotten how to react naturally anymore. So they wait to be told how to how to how to uh frame things, right? You know, so you're immediately your immediate reaction to certain things may be your genuine being and then somebody will go, "Oh, no, that's not right because blah blah blah." And then you go, "Oh, yeah, you're right. I'm wrong." Exactly. And you're like, "No, you're not wrong. You are behaving like a human being that you are, right? And you and you you processed it the way you were supposed to process it, but because it doesn't fit to this person's um ideology, then now you're wrong." Yeah. And so people are afraid to be natural.

150:44They're waiting to be told how to behave now. Yes. Is this okay? Am I allowed to do that? And I'm like, why wouldn't you be? You've lost your you basically not you've lost your free will. They're all They're scared to be ostracized, you know? That's that's a big thing today. You're scared to be on the out group, you know, and it sometimes it makes people say completely irrational things and they hope that by saying these irrational things they're going to be accepted. It's [ __ ] weird, man. It's weird. It's a weird time. It's like one of the weirdest times we've ever had in terms of communication because it takes real courage to actually speak your mind, especially if you're on social media because you will get attacked. You'll get attacked regardless. Regardless whether you're right or wrong, say the most positive thing and you get you get attached.

151:30Someone will find a a reason why you're a piece of [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. But that's cuz that's just how they viewed you to begin with. Exactly. Exactly. What about doing a show? I was thinking about this. This has completely nothing to do with anything. But um where everybody did mushrooms before the show and the audience is all on mushrooms. It's a good idea. So you like But you have to regulate the dose. Well, no. You have to like get a psychological examination of the people that are involved. So because if someone has like borderline schizophrenia, right? And then you trip them over the deep end. Right. Right. Right. [laughter] Cuz we know people that have gone right. You and I both know people that have like taken pot edibles. Mhm. And uh maybe Joey Diaz has done that to a few people in in their day and they they break

152:16or you know mushrooms can do the same thing. Like some people are psychologically fragile. True. Some we're [clears throat] living in a world of it. And maybe some of them through no fault of their own. You know, they're just they have a weird chemical composition and their brain doesn't work that good. Yeah. I think like a like a a dosage amount that you give them and then you put on like the newer comics at the beginning while they're while the while the trip's setting in, right? And then you get to your headliners and by the time they get like you and Dave or something get on and the audience is right at the right place for everybody. Yeah. The thing is, everybody's right place is a different thing. It's like some people are dealing with demons and then that that mushroom hits them and the mushroom is like you're an [ __ ] to your mother. Like no,

153:00[laughter] you know, like some people are dealing with demons, you know? Some people like you bullied your brother when you were growing up. I did. I did. [ __ ] How can I fix it? It's whatever was subconsciously repressing, I guess. Yeah, man. Um, I do think that there's some real benefit in psychedelics for people and I' I've harped on that so many times and I avoid saying it because I said it I've said it too much. You've said it a lot. You've you've you've got me involved in that world now. Look at this shirt. I know. Tell me about your shirt. That's uh Red Light Holland. That's the company I'm working with. You're working with a mushroom company. I'm working with the mushroom company. [laughter] We're the truffle company. So, how legal is that stuff on a 1 to 10? Uh, well, here's the problem. So, we're illegal in Holland. And the

153:48problem is I haven't been able to get out to Holland to try the product and I can't try it in North America, but it's it's illegal here. But it's not illegal in Portland. Um Portland is legalized basically everything, including Antifa. [laughter] Yeah, they've they've everything. Give it to them. They want it all. Yeah. You can threaten the mayor. Yeah. You could burn the [ __ ] courthouse. They're wild up there. I That's why I brought it up to the to the whole to the whole team. I was like, "Why aren't we in Portland?" And they're like, "Well, we got to get it's more than just getting approved in Portland. You got to get the whole FDA involved and everything." Is this this is the biggest the the biggest door opening, the biggest change in our society will be when they legalize psychedelics because it will dissolve so many of our

154:33preconceived notions about what government is, what life is, what civilization is, what what community is, what love is, what insecurity is. There's so much of what we see every day when you're you're dealing with people that is based on insecurity and this and fear and one of the best methods for alleviating insecurity and fear are psychedelics and it could definitely help. Uh we have a huge mental illness problem in this country that I really feel that this stuff could really help. I think micro doing is the way for a lot of that's what that's what it's for. Yeah, this is a micro doing company. So I mean I think it'll be great for all the vets and all the people I mean, not saying sure we should, you know, pump it to the homeless people, but a lot of the homeless people have their own issues that they're dealing with and it might

155:19straighten them out. It may not. We don't know. Well, you know that MAPS is doing some work with psychedelics and veterans with PTSD with MD using MDMA using ecstasy essentially pure and they're they've got really some some really promising results and they continue to work on that and I think that's amazing that they're doing that and that you know they've gotten these studies funded and they've gone through and they they hold real promise and so I I will hope that eventually we come to our our senses and we recognize that there's a lot of things out there that can help people and they're it's not the thing is that these are human issues like they're not it's not that clear. It's like you can't they're not they don't work on everybody because everybody's different and it's not going to be perfect with everybody. So everybody's different. So if we do have

156:13things that are beneficial to a certain percentage of the population, they're not going to be beneficial to everybody. And some people are going to have real problems with them. And we have to accept that that is a part of being a person. And that there's the same thing with alcohol. I think alcohol should be legal, but some people are alcoholics. Some people can't drink at all. Like you and I just had a drink and we're fine. Fine. But some people cannot do that and they go off the deep end. I have some friends like that. Yeah, we both do. You know, we both do. [clears throat] That's the [snorts] and I can't comprehend it because I don't have an addictive nature. So yeah, for me it's like, well, why can't you just have the one or just not have any then? And they're like, I you don't understand. It calls me and I'm like, I don't I don't understand,

156:50man. It's genes, you know? That's a lot of it. There's a lot of it is genes. You know, I have friends that are alcoholics and their whole family's alcoholics. And I don't think that's a coincidence. Yeah. I don't get it because I can have a drink and not drink for like I've done I do Sober October every year. I don't drink for a whole month and it's it's not I want to get in on it this year. Let's do it. Yeah, let's do it, Russell. It's only a few months away. Let's do it. Was that five months away? What are we at? We're in May. June, July, August, September, October. Yeah. Yeah. It's not that hard. It's fun. And the good thing is you do other things like uh usually we have some sort of a challenge that we do or you know, you'll work out every day or something like that. Like that's what I did last time. I worked out every day. It's nice.

157:31Look at Tom. Tom. Tom and Bert. I mean, look at Tom's in great shape now. You seen him lately? Well, once he broke his uh arm and [ __ ] his whole [ __ ] body, he moved here today. Did he come here today? Today. Today's moving day. Yeah. Oh, wow. I'm supposed to text message today. I'm supposed to do his podcast soon. I don't know. They have a studio out here now, son. Oh, [ __ ] I told you. Joe the Pied Piper Rogan. When When are you moving here? Um I you know, for me, I got I got bigger I got bigger problems, you know. I got a I got two kids, two baby mamas. I got uh you know if I ever want to see my kids again, I can't leave. I get it. You got to talk to those [ __ ] in a movie here. Yeah, right. No disrespect with the word we're [ __ ] Um No, no, you you were right. [laughter] You're not you're not wrong, Joe.

158:15You want another cigar? Is that why you grab that? I do, but uh short story cuz I got to catch a flight soon. You don't have to finish it. N I hate wasting cigars. Drives me nuts. Bring it with you. [laughter] What's that short story? Take a short story from there. Oh, the middle ones. This is a nice long smoke. Yeah, there you go. It's actually a really good smoke, by the way. Yeah, they're great. Thank you. Shout out to Foundation Cigar Company. Thinking about doing a cigar uh collaboration. Look at you. You're a [ __ ] businessman now. I got to do something mushrooms. Selling mushrooms. What else are you going to sell? Guns. You got alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. I got no I got no guns yet. No, I'm not a gun guy. I know that's your world. I uh I It freaks me out. Guns freak me out. Guns freak you out? What freaks you out

158:57about them? The bang bang part? No, no, I just I don't like the having that much power in my hands. So, how do you feel when you hold your dick? That's that's the kind of power I can control. You feel dangerous, though. Feel dangerous with dangerous. Yeah, I know what you're saying. Um, but uh is But I also understand my triggers as far as uh temper goes, and I I don't think I'm the guy to have a gun. You got a bad temper? Uh, I've never seen you lose your temper once. I've known you forever. No, I mean, you get in those places sometimes. You're like, I'm And in those moments like, I'm so [ __ ] glad I don't have a gun. Cuz you've dated some questionable women. Is that what is that? What are you saying? Well, my woman now doesn't even get me there at all. So, it's wonderful. I'm in a very peaceful place in my life. I got a I got to keep saying I got a

159:48fantastic I've never been this [ __ ] happy with a woman in my life. Beautiful. You got lucky. You can do that, man. You can get lucky in this life. I got lucky. Yeah, you're lucky. great. She's a beautiful person. Not just pretty. She's just She's so nice. She really is a sweetheart. Always. Always. Yeah, she's changed me, man. I mean, not that I was ever mean, but I was meaner. And I was just uh I just didn't know that people could be that nice all the time. Just when it's the quality of the humans that are around you, man, they change who you are. They really do. It changes everything. It's like whether it's your friends or family members or even people that you work with, co-workers, you know, there's a there's a pilot light in us and the wrong person can blow out your pilot light. Yes, that's a good way of putting it.

160:33That's what happened to me last year. My pilot light got blown out. Yeah. And I got dark. Yeah. It can happen with everything, man. Like literally with everything in your life, you know? Yeah. Across the board. you just positivity is so important and also people that have like-minded values and goals where they they just want to improve and they want to do well and and people that want to be happy. That's the other thing. Some people just don't want to be happy. They're not they're not looking to be happy. I think I'm an innately happy person. You are. You're always happy. And you know, I had a lot of bad [ __ ] happen to me when I was a kid, but didn't I didn't take it. What's the worst [ __ ] that happened to you? Just a lot of bad bullying when I was when I was a kid. like bad like not you know not just like sticks and stone

161:22stuff like you know physical just and from strangers adults adults bullied you yeah you know in the 70s in Canada especially where I was living it's for to be an Indian kid was a rough it was a rough place to be you were you're very low on the totem pole there and uh you're expendable to them so they don't equal anything so when I hear about things and I'm like I I know what it actually looks and feels like but I didn't harbor that to make me this bitter person where I [ __ ] hate white people. You know what I mean? I was like I understood even at that small age that I was like, you know what, I I'm pretty sure this will turn around. [laughter] You know what I mean? And it did. You know, I got lucky. I I I kept the right outlook. I didn't demonize an entire bunch of people. I understood that there's this way there's a process

162:08in life and, you know, this is the way it's going to work out for me. Yeah. That's it's horrible to see people getting attacked for just some [ __ ] they have zero control over at all. Yeah, that's what was happening. And and I'm talking from like four years old. Four till I was about 15. It was bad. And those are very formative years for for a human. Do you think that that's what made you a comic? That's definitely what in um made me made my comedy the way it is. why I'm so kind of not obsessed with but why I'm constantly talking about race and culture and stuff. Yeah. I'm trying to figure out I'm trying to tie us all together as opposed to se by you know to the to the average look or onlooker it's going to look like I'm separating people but really I'm not. Right. I think where we're heading right now we've we've ended up in a place now

163:01where we went from a melting pot to separation again. I think it's going to come back. I really it has to. I really do. I think there's there's plenty of people like you and me that that think that we could pull it all together. We just have to agree upon it, you know, like what what Chappelle was saying, like this kindness conspiracy. We got to kind of agree upon that. We really do. We really do. And and it can be done. It really can. It's not that hard. It doesn't cost any money. Everybody can participate. We could all do better because of it. It's it's something that's it's right for everybody. When you see someone who's got a [ __ ] KKK outfit on or something like that's a sad sad person, that's sad. They're they're looking to belong. They're looking to be a part of they want to be part of something. They're sad.

163:46And uh they really don't know anything about anything else. And so they really don't know anything about anything. And now they're learning about something, but it's the wrong thing. Right. They found a tribe, but it's a [ __ ] tribe. Yeah. And then a lot of them come out of it. I think there's a there's a high uh recovery rate from that. I think you ever you know who Christian Piccolini is? No. He's a guy who was uh he was in like a white power group and then came out of it and now uh helps people get out of those hate groups. Yeah. And you know does a especially with a such an Italian name. Such a weird thing to do. I don't know his story exactly. I I heard him on a podcast before, but there's um you know, it's like Daryl uh Davis. Daryl Davis. That's the black guy that he helped from. Yes. He's a gentleman that was on my

164:43podcast. He's a uh he's a brilliant blues musician. And he has personally himself converted over 200 people to quit the KKK and neo-Nazi organizations. Great. Yeah. and came on the podcast and explained how it all happened that he was on the road and he was in uh a club doing music and he sat down with this guy and the guy was like, "I never had a drink with a black guy before." And he was like, "What?" And he goes, "Yeah, I'm in the clan." And the guy was he was like, "What the [ __ ] are you talking about?" And he became this guy's friend. Huh. And uh just said, "Hey, you know, next time I'm in town, look me up." And uh they hung out together. They had dinner together. Couple months later, the guy handed him his his outfit. He's a [ __ ] grand dragon or whatever it is. Wow. And he said, "I can't do this anymore."

165:34He's like, "I realize like I'm I'm wrong. I've been told this. I lived by this and it's wrong." And now I know because of you. And Daryl has done that with more than 200 people now. He's a big dude, too, right? Yeah. Yeah. But he's a sweetheart of a guy and and a a great musician. And that's what he started out as. He didn't He's not like this guy who's like, "I'm gonna be an activist." Yeah. Just this real sweet, open-minded guy, but also very intelligent and very articulate. And when you're talking to the guy, you can't pretend he's not smart. Right. So, like for a lot of these guys, they're like, "Shit." You know, like when you're talking to someone who you've decided or it's been taught to you that they're an inferior and then you're talking to him and you realize like, "This guy's brilliant. He's making sense. He's calm. He's reasonable. I'm wrong.

166:26Yeah. It's uh that's you know that's it's I think that's anything in life. You got to somebody's coming at you one way, you're going to have to come at them another way. Yeah. Like two angry people aren't going to I think that's what the happened in America last year with the with the whole election, you know, right? Both sides were so extreme. One hated, one they both hated. It was both full of hate. Yeah. Yeah. And and that's why you're not going to because people's back get up against the wall and they they they want to be wrong and strong at that point. Wrong and strong. The old wrong and strong. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a challenging time, but that doesn't mean that we're not going to pull out of it. I think we're going to pull out of it. I do. I mean, we have to Yeah, we have to. It's just it's it's it's not a realistic life. Yeah, we can we can pull it

167:14through. We We can We came this far. Yeah. I mean, come on, man. We We came this far and then we stopped and we moved backwards a little bit. No, but it's a stall, but this is the way it works with progress. Like progress comes in hills and valleys and and I think our next hill will be higher than the hill that we previously ascended. I think that's totally a possible scenario. Or we can descend into madness and, you know, China can take over. China and the Russians. That's possible, too, man. I mean, if if China is controlling China, just stop and think of that. like, "Oh, that's not possible." Is China controlling China? Yeah. Well, China is in control of a billion people. 1.4. Yeah. 1.5. Whatever it is, a billion and tack on another 300,000. It's not that big of an accomplishment. I think it's, you know, that's 300 million, isn't it? The 1.3

168:11the the five 1.5 is a 500 million, is it? Yes. If they really have 1.5, is that what they How many people are in China? 1.4 or 1.5. Let's find out. India has 1.3. Do they really? Yeah. India and China make up uh what is it? More than half the earth's population or something. 1.4 or or a good third of it. So China has more than a billion people more than the United States. And they're in control of those people. Yeah. They got it locked down. Yeah. They got they're very they're on top of it for them to tack on. It's kind of amazing that America is like the thought leader and the global superpower when we have only 300 and what what do we have? 330. What's America have? Would you guess? Take a guess. I I was I figured it was around 300 and something million. Keeps growing for whatever reason. Oh, we I didn't know. We're number three behind China and India. Really?

169:07Population wise. Yeah. What do we have? It's a huge drop off. What do we have? 331. 331. Wow. Oh yeah. Look at that. Come on India. Or come in India. Jesus Christ. [laughter] It's a major drop off. Yeah. 2 billion. Uh you know if Pakistan had stayed with India, we would have the largest population in the world. Wow. Because they got 220 million. That's a big drop off too. Pakistan to India. That's well I mean because it's a you know it was all one place at one point. So we could have 1.6 billion people or something. So what happened? I don't really understand the politics behind it. I know the British had something to do with it. Who [ __ ] up? Um, [clears throat] British. They [ __ ] up a lot of things. They kind They did that. They kind of did their thing and then bounced on everybody. They [ __ ] up a lot of things, didn't

169:55they? They used to run [ __ ] How many people are in England? Pull that up. Uh, the UK. Yeah. 67.8. That ain't [clears throat] [ __ ] Yeah. That's [ __ ] California. And how many of them are non you [laughter] know they used to run everything. Italy 60 million. Tanzania. Just Tanzania. Sorry I was breaking down the UK. It's you know it's multiple countries. Wow. South Korea make dope phones. Only 51 million people. Kind of wild man. You keep going down the line. Did you see this thing where uh there was a gigantic uh data leak? like iPhone 150 million iPhones got hacked and they didn't tell anybody about it. They decided to keep it to themselves. Didn't Snowden mention why that happened? I don't know. He said something about why the iPhone is not uh the ideal phone for it's it's the ideal phone for hackers. Really?

170:53That's what they said. Cuz it's only like one code you have to figure out, right? And then the Androids have so many different systems running in them, it's harder to hack them in that way. In that respect. Yeah. But the iPhone is a little bit more secure and it's harder to get things into the app the uh app store cuz there was a thing with uh Android phones recently. I have both um and I I use iPhone more often, but I do I do like Androids too. They they have there's some there's some positive qualities. But one of the things that they did was they had an app in the uh Google Play Store, I guess, or I don't maybe you had to get it from a third party, but the app would update your operating system kind of automatically, but it didn't really. What it did is just [ __ ] it hacked into your phone. Yeah. And like sent all your data to someone

171:41like credit card information or what have you. I don't know what it said, but so you know the the I I don't understand the Android operating system, but they do have some cool [ __ ] phones. Oh, this the Galaxy S21 Ultra. I have that one. This is [ __ ] You know what I want? I want that Motorola Flip. I saw a dude with it and the uh they brought the Razer back as an as a [ __ ] looked cool as [ __ ] You know what's cool? Hanging up on people. Snap. Cook out. Yeah. It's like the It's like the old school. [ __ ] that [ __ ] Snap. Now you're searching and slapping your screen and Yeah. Uh my friend Gordon has the the one that opens up like a tablet. Yeah, that one's really cool, too. Looks pretty dope. It's dope because uh there's no there's no line. Yeah, it's pretty sick because as a

172:25regular phone, it's just a chunky regular phone and it's kind of thin. So, you could text with one hand pretty good, especially if you have smaller hands. Yeah. And then when you open it up, I mean, you basically have a small iPad. So, if you want to watch like YouTube videos or some [ __ ] or or browse. Yep. And it's 5G. I there's all these little uh fake phones showing up on the internet like, "What do you think of this?" And it was some cool drop down phone that had Apple iOS on it. And there's some uh apparently there's some Android phone out there that can use a Apple iOS on it. And really, yeah, I wouldn't trust that [ __ ] No. No. But that does seem like a cool option to have. Apple's done an amazing job of locking down that ecosystem. They did such an amazing job. I mean, they locked it down. If you if you don't want that

173:13green bubble, you have to go through Apple. Yeah, but the green bubble is annoying to me. It's uh it could be an issue. And then if you send video, it comes in super low resolution on the green on the green bubble. Yeah. If somebody if you have an Android phone and you try to send someone a big ass video, it's annoying. Yeah. You don't get that iMessage thing. No, it's not. You don't get the confirmation. You don't know what quality they got. You got to go, do you have WhatsApp? Can I send it to you on WhatsApp? Yeah. WhatsApp the [ __ ] out of here with that. [laughter] Yeah. And you have to send it SMS. Like pictures are lower resolution, but videos are a real problem. And you can't airdrop. No, I like airdropping. Big fan of air dropping. It's the [ __ ] Yeah. Just that alone. That kind of integration. And for me as a guy who

173:56always takes notes on his phone. That's big because I want like of ideas for bits. I want to be able to pull up my notes that I write on my laptop and I want them to go straight to my phone. Yep. Same. And vice versa. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to think about it. I'm a big fan of the airdrop. They got us locked in though. And then they take everything away and they make you buy it separately and they're, you know, using Chinese slave labor. Son of a I don't see that iPhone hack uh info story, but as you Oh. Oh, okay. I didn't miss the old part. Yeah, it uh it was a leak from 2015. they had hacked into and it was a recent story that Apple had decided not to share the information. So 150 million phones were potentially compromised and they decided not to share the information. It's just coming out probably because of that trial they're involved with, I think. Uhhuh.

174:55See, the apps when they first started coming out, they were coming up with some really cool ideas. There was one app you could get. Um, here it is. biggest iPhone hack ever. Fortnite trial exposes emails detailing the Xcode ghost malware. Okay, because Epic Games and Apple's in the middle of a giant trial right now because uh I think Apple wants a piece. So like if you have Epic on if you have Fortnite on your phone, Apple gets like 30% or some [ __ ] And so there's like some thing where Fortnite decided to not have their thing on the app store because they want all the money. Am I [ __ ] that up? You're pretty accurate. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, here it is. In cases slip people's memory in 2015, hackers successfully crept in a potentially dangerous Xcode ghost malware to thousands of iPhone and iPad apps. Apple

175:52during that time has been privy to the details of the attack to add the company on their part said that they notified hundreds of millions of victims. Researchers also estimate that about 4,000 apps are infected. What does that mean though on their part? But what I heard was that they Um, Google Google Apple Google uh, whatever that malware is. And then Google Apple Apple chose not to Xcode ghost. Apple chose not to uh, what would be the word? Alert. Inform. I can't see it. So, it was an app you would get and then it would uh I'm not an app guy, so I'm okay. [clears throat] Is the Epic Game shut? There it goes. Apple did not inform victims about the attack. There it is. Apple kept mom. Go to the first one. Hack read. Apple News. There it is. And this is on Apple News. Whoops. Um, no, it's Apple News. It is Apple News. Uh, March

177:12report. Um, it must be noted that Xcode is Apple's app development tool. Back then, it was reported that Apple stopped the attack quickly. However, according to a new report, emails presented during the EP Epic Games versus Apple court proceedings have revealed startling new details. Here it is on the particular attack. It turns out that nearly 128 million iOS users downloaded the apps containing the Xcode ghost malware. Reportedly, Apple kept this malware attack a secret and didn't share the impact's full details. That's what that's what I'd read. I thought you were getting into the thing that happened like this week where the some pipeline Oh, I was going to get that. People are there's a gas shortage in multiple states right now. Yeah, there's a real issue with gas apparently. Really? That sounds way worse than Well, we have extra cars. Hey, hey, Tesla.

178:07What do you remember? There was this one app, I don't know if you know about this. It was for single guys and you would put on your phone and if you were at a club, you would give the girl your phone to put her number in and while she was typing in her number would take pictures of her so you would know what the girl looked like. Really? Yeah. Why not just take a picture of her? Well, because you know, you had a shy Yeah. Whatever. for you didn't want to be like, you know, you want to make it look like you're going to remember her, but he would be like as as she's putting it in it's taking pictures of her face. So, you knew exactly lazy dudes who are scared to ask for a picture. Like, if you're going to get someone's photograph or get someone's phone number, you I think about 10 years ago this app was around. Oh, okay. I didn't know. If you're going

178:44to get someone's photograph, shouldn't you be [clears throat] able to get a picture of them? Yeah. Get their number. You should be like, "Hey, can we take a picture?" Like, it's a big deal. Or they'll be like, "Hey, text me. All right. Here, put your number." And then click, click, click. you know, people today it's so uh it's so weird with the dating apps and all the [ __ ] that people are doing today. It's like the world is such a different place like as communication is becoming more frivolous and like easier to just like talk [ __ ] to people. It's also probably easier to hook up with people. Oh yeah. Like kids today on these dating apps just swiping left and swiping right. Yeah. A lot of people are meeting their mate that way. Interesting. I don't know that you want to meet your mate that way. Why not?

179:27She's a perfect girl. What do you give a [ __ ] You're trying to meet girls that way. Selfish [ __ ] How about that? How about he wants to meet people that way? He doesn't want them to meet him that way. Huh? Not me. But what if you're out there? I was never an app guy for that. I I would rather just meet people in person. You're actually a famous comedian. I don't know if you know about that. Never heard about it. Yeah. It's a little bit easier for you to meet people. True. But if you're a guy who's working all day and you really don't have time to go out there and mingle, but you have like shared attributes, like there's something about, you know, your likes and dislikes and the things you're interested in. I mean, shared interest. That depends on what app you're on. And there's the hookup apps, right? That are strictly for that.

180:03What are the hookup apps? I think they're like, you know, your basic, your Tinders, your Bumbles, the let's fuck.com. I don't think Bumble is that. I think Bumble is like Wasn't Bumble more hookup than Tinder? It's got other you can find a BFF on there and there's also like a business bumble where you can like find people to work with I think is what the BF app is you looking for friends find people to hang out with instead of like I am working on an app are you? Yeah, I'm working with this kid. I came up with I I I said it as a joke and he goes that'd be a really good app and uh so you don't want to say what it is. Keep it home. You don't want anybody stealing it. Yeah, I know. I don't know where we're at with it. I don't know if it's locked down yet. Yeah. Don't say anything. Does it have to do with mushrooms? No. No, no, it does not. It's a It's a

180:44It's a hook not a hookup app. It's a Don't say it. It's a romance app. Keep it together. Oh, romance. Look at you. Romantic. Trying to Yeah. But it started off as a joke and then he's like, "It's a really good idea." A young kid. He's really smart. If people meet and they get along, who gives a [ __ ] how they meet? True. Whether it's an app or choking each other, you know? Yeah. You know, you meet some girl in jiu-jitsu and she gets you in a triangle and you're like, "She's my new favorite." Yeah. She's my bestie. You let her get you in a triangle. Yeah. Could you do you think you could date a girl and kick your ass? Yeah. I don't have a problem with that. Really? I don't have an ego about that. Look at you. Have you dated some Brazilian lady just [ __ ] ragdolls you? Arm bars you all the time. Not dated but she gets mad at you. I've met some.

181:28But would you? But like I mean if you were a single fellow I right now but what if you weren't? I I I I like empowered women. I I dig that though. There's empowered and there's also a girl kill you with her bare hands. I'm not interested in that. I mean, you know, she's not going to. Maybe she will. You know, then then then she's equally as dangerous as you are. You know, maybe you change your opinion about guns. Wait a minute. If you're living with some gal, this this [ __ ] has a black belt. I need a gun. [laughter] You tough enough to stop a bullet. Could you imagine if you're living with a girl who will [ __ ] you up? That would be annoying. You know, you girl stronger than you if you're like, could you just open this pickle jar, please? You'd look away. Well, you don't want her to be physically stronger than you. You just

182:14want her to be more uh talented than you are. Like a talented fighter, but you want to be physically stronger. Yeah. You date a powerlifter? I don't think it wouldn't be my speed. No, that's not my I like him a little bit more feminine. What if she's really feminine but strong as [ __ ] Hey man, then that's what it is. [laughter] That's That's what you got. That's what you got. That's what you got. Yeah. You never know until you meet him, right? Yeah. You might meet her. You know, I never thought I uh you know, uh without saying too much, but I I've I've connected with some ladies in the MMA world. And Oh, really? Interesting. And at the end of the day, they're just women. They they just want to be treated like women. Yeah. Most of them. Some of them don't. Some of them want to beat your ass. I want to leg kick you. Yeah. [laughter]

182:55That's definitely what I don't want. That's I want my legs taken out of me. I know. I mean, it just to if you were dating a competitive fighter, male or female, like the stress of that job is so [ __ ] different than like there's like cop, firefighter, like there's soldier, cop, firefighter, MMA fighter. Right. Right. I would imagine like that's the kind of like what? Yeah. That's kind of the hierarchy of like stressful jobs, like insanely intensely is like soldier is probably the highest stress. Yes. And then cop is, you know, a lot of times you're right there with it. Yeah. Firefighter, you could die in a fight. Yep. Fire. And then MMA fighter, like, you know, every x amount of months, you have this insane [ __ ] thing that you do where you get in a cage, you put a mouthpiece on, and you try to knock someone unconscious. Mhm.

183:50I teach my girl um little jiu-jitsu moves and she tries to do them to me every now and then and I'm like, "Hey, stop that shit." Yeah. I'll be, you know, I'll be on top of her and she'll be like, "Hey, is this" and she she put me frame me up? Yeah. A little Ezekiel. And I'm like, [laughter] and then I'll still I'll be like, "No, you don't have it." I keep I keep [ __ ] up by telling, "You don't have it." And then she keeps working it and I'm like, "There it is." You ever see that guy Alexi Oleneck who lets guys mount them and he Ezekiels them from the bottom? Oh, no. You never seen him? No. I think he's he's tapped out well at least one guy in the UFC. I think it's been more than one. But he's got this you from the top position. From the bottom. From the bottom. It's madness. He just has this it's he's basically doing a

184:33rear naked choke from the front while you're on top of him. But he doesn't have any leg control. He's not squeezing you with his body. He just has this nasty constriction and he lets guys mount. So, like what happens is like he's like making it like he's got his arm wrapped around you. He's making his like he's stopping the mount and you think he's that you're passing and you're you're mounting him. And right as you do that, you're thinking about mounting him and he [ __ ] slides it in. Watch this. Watch how he does this. So, he's got a hold of it right here. But right now, he's just kind of protecting him and he lets the guy mount him and then boom, he sinks it in. See locking in there? Yeah. Look how he does it. As soon as he sinks it in, you're [ __ ] man. You're [ __ ] because it's so tight and he's

185:18got his his his arm like deep in the pocket of the the bicep just like a rear naked choke. Madness, right? Look at him. That's wild. Look how sad that dude is. [laughter] He's so sad. He was about to go to sleep. That's why. Yeah. He has to get you, dude. It's over. You're You tapped. He's like, I can't. What happened? Where's he from? Russia, bro. Hard people. So, show that again. Is it a [ __ ] move that he's doing? Um, well, it's uh Ezekiel's just a standard submission move, but to do it like this is crazy. But go for the transition because it's like, so this is what happens. Like he's in you're in side control and you think you're doing okay, right? And he just kind of holds his head, but then as soon as the guy mounts, then he slides it in front of his face. Oh, yeah. He's like, "You [ __ ] up, son. I wanted you to do that." Yeah. And he

186:10gets it in perfect. It's I don't know anybody else. No, I have not. I don't I've done it from the top, but I don't know anybody else who's done that like that, especially in uh not only in an MMA fight, but also with gloves. Have you ever tried grappling with gloves on? It's awful, right? It's hard. Yeah. I don't I I'm really impressed when they lock on guys with gloves on. Oh, that's right. He did it on this guy, too. So, this guy takes him down. This guy takes him down. Same thing. Look, he doesn't have it in here. He allows you to mount and then as you mount, he slides it in. Oh, no. No. He's in He's in half guard here. He got it from half guard. But the same thing. And they all look they all have the same look on their face. [laughter] They all have the same look on their face. It's It's such a sneaky move, but Ollie Nick has that crazy grappler.

186:51What weight is he heavyweight? Like Mark Hunt. Yeah, he fought Mark Hunt. He got I think he got Mark Hunt in Armbar or something, I think. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Damn. Yeah, he's a he's a beast. Is he getting a title shot soon? No, he's lost to a lot of guys. Um, but he's he's got to be a top 15 heavyweight. What's uh Ollie Nick ranked? I would imagine he's ranked like 11, 12, somewhere in that range. He's uh older. He's in his 40s. Mhm. You know, he's probably not going to get a title shot. That sucks. But he's a tough guy. Yeah. How old is he? He's got like 60 plus MMA fights, too. Jesus Christ. Does it say how old he is? I'm trying to find rank first. Oh, it's ranking 15. He's ranked 15. Yeah. See, I know my [ __ ] I'm a professional, believe it or not. You know, I do miss the UFC without you um when you're not um uh commentating.

187:48Well, good news. This weekend, I'll be there. Who's fighting this weekend? Well, we have the lightweight championship of the world, Charles Olivera versus Michael Chandler. Pull up the card so you can see the whole card. He's 43. He's 43. Only Nick Oliver versus Chandler. I'm a little upset at Michael Chandler six-pack. Makes me feel like a fat [ __ ] Let's take a look at the fight card there. And Olivivera is a beast. That's a great fight. Tony Ferguson versus Benil Darush. Love it. Caitlyn Chukagian versus Vivana Arujo. Shane Bergos versus Edson Barbosa. That's a [ __ ] barn burner. Wow. At 145. He's featherweight now. Whoa. And who? [clears throat] What else is in the prelim? Jacare Andre Muno. That's on ESPN. Yeah. Lando Vanara Groovy Lando and Mike Grundy. Is she related to the other? Antonia Antonyina, excuse me, is uh her

188:48sister. Andrea Lee, Andrea KGB Lee, another Russian. Jordan Wright, Jamie Picket. Is that Michael Paige knockout the other day? Dude, Michael Paige is a beast. He's so good. He's an interesting cat because he came from the point fighting background, you know? He's uh he's got such a crazy style that hands down wide stance, leaps in, you know, really. He's the one that got kicked out of the UFC. No, no, no. He was never in the UFC. Michael Paige lost to Douglas Lima for the title in Bellator as a welterweight. And um he's uh he's elite. He's really good, man. He's really [ __ ] good. Really talented. Dana never tried to recruit him. Well, he was over in Bellator already and they treat him well. Look, it's good that there's good fighters over there, man. It's I think it's really good. I think it's important. I think it's We

189:34need more competition whether it's PFL or one championship. It's It's real good to have a lot of different organizations. I like one a lot. They're doing great. Yeah. Yeah. They have uh grappling now, too. You know what? What's interesting about one? They have Muay Thai with little gloves. Like John Wayne Parr just fought Nikki Holtzkin in a Muay Thai bout in a cage and now they're going to do grappling. Yeah. Just submission grappling. Just submission grappling. Yeah. They they they s they signed um Gordon Ryan to fight Shinyoki. Oh, Gordon Ryan. Wow. Yeah. So, he's over there doing a grappling match. That's Henzo's guy, right? Gordon. Yes. Well, John Donner, he's I mean, John Donner comes from Henzo and John Donner is the main coach of Gordon Ryan. And Gordon Ryan's literally the greatest grappler of all time. Yes. It's kind of a it's a showcase more than

190:21anything because Shinayoki is also much smaller. I mean, it's it's a mismatch in every way. It's a mismatch physically and size. Gordon's way bigger. It's a mismatch talent-wise. Are they not doing it by weight? This fight is not this there this I think what it is is nobody wants to get [ __ ] up by Gordon. But at least if you're a young like if you're a lighter guy, you can say, "Hey, you know, I took a chance. He's he had me by 50 pounds." Yep. And then I'm going to try my speed on him. Yeah. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck doing anything to Gordon. He's He's a [ __ ] gigantic amazing grappler who trains every day. Yeah. He Well, he's from New Jersey, but he's uh they live in Puerto Rico now. Seems to be the place. Well, they couldn't do any grappling in New York City, man. They they shut down grappling in New York City, and so they

191:10had to figure out what to do. They had a lot of competitions they had to train for, and they were getting shut down. Like, people were coming to the to the uh the basement where Henzo's place is and [ __ ] with them. And so someone uh that they know that's their friend in New York City or uh in Puerto Rico rather offered their place to them. And so they packed up their [ __ ] and they moved to uh Puerto Rico. Dan moved there too, right? Yep. They all did. The whole squad. Gary Tonin, Craig Jones, they all moved down there. Uh Nikki Rodriguez. I'm hoping they moved to Texas. They're talking about doing that. That'd be good. That would be the [ __ ] [laughter] I'll help him. I'll [ __ ] throw up the bat signal. Let's go. Yeah, you're the you're the guy. You should run for mayor here eventually. No,

191:52no, I don't want to be a mayor. I don't want to be any any kind of politician. So, if you're uh if you're thinking about it, no. Not interested. I'm not You feel me? I feel you, kid. We should get you out of here so you can catch your flight. Got to catch your flight. You got to fly back. Fly back. Got a lot of [ __ ] going on in California. I do. I got to do my engagement photos tomorrow. Woo! You excited? I am actually. You're already wearing a wedding ring. Yeah. You know what's funny about that is when I gave her an engagement ring, [clears throat] she said, "Uh, you've given four other [ __ ] an engagement ring before me, and you never followed through." She said, she was like, "Too honest." Uh, she said, "Uh, I don't give a [ __ ] You [laughter] know me." She said, "You know what? You've been engaged to women have been engaged to

192:39you, but you've never been engaged to them." Oh, show me something. So, she bought me a ring. She was like, "I'm wearing this. You're wearing this." Like, that sounds fair. I like it. That's a good move. And I uh I really like wearing it to be honest with [laughter] you. See sometime I mean just because you you know you went through some ones that didn't work out. I think this one's going to work out. I like I like all the words coming out of your mouth, Russell Peters. You know, Joseph, I'm happy for you out here. Thanks, brother. You seem spry and happy and relaxed and makes me happy. Thanks. I'm happy. Everything's good. Glad Jaime's out here. Look at Jamie. Jamie looks miserable as [ __ ] but he's happy. He That's not true. Just kidding. He looks happy. [laughter] Um, listen brother, I miss you. I love you. It's always great to see you. Thanks.

193:19I miss seeing you around the store. Can I promo my podcast again? That's Culturally Cancelled with Russell Peters. Culturally Cancelled. Culturally Cancelled. That's what I called it. Okay. It's on uh iHeart Radio. Okay. And um YouTube as well. Do you have a YouTube? I believe there's a YouTube format of it. Is it a video or is it just audio right now? Uh there. [laughter] You see how you have really good cameras set up? Yeah. Uh I have an iPhone. That's fine. That's how Lex Freiedman does his. It looks great. When you look at it on YouTube, it looks just as good. Yeah, it's fine. When he came here and we did one, he he did it just with iPhones. Oh, yeah. Yeah. With phones is no problem, man. Phones today are very good, right? I mean, you could you could film a [ __ ] movie with a phone today. Yeah, we're good with that. Um I mean,

194:01we'll we'll step it up eventually accordingly. Hey, man, go back and look at episode one of this [ __ ] stupid show. When what when did it start? 2010, right? 29. 29. So, I started doing it in 2010. In December of 2010 was the first one I did. Wow. In your house. Wow. Remember those days? Right. My kids screaming in the background. No, they were babies then. They were babies at the same age as my baby. They'd stub a toe and scream and you'd hear in the background. We're on couches and your wife was so sweet and Feelgood podcast. Look at you with the [ __ ] hat. Look at you. You look like a [ __ ] You know Nick Turo, don't you? Yes. Oh my god. You know what was funny about that? When we're doing this, he's smoking a cigar and he's so passionate. He's talking and he's lighting the cigar right by the mic and the mic caught fire. Oh no.

194:45How's he doing, man? I haven't seen that guy in forever. He's doing great. We're gonna fantastic actor. Amazing actor. And that's his uh his uh cousin-in-law, uh Gabe. Whiteclaw Gabe. Love the White Claws. He loves the White Claws. He's he's um he's autistic. And uh but he's [ __ ] hilarious. He's a sweetheart of a man that Gabe. Love that guy. Beautiful. So that's available. The feelood episode. Yeah, it's called we called it the Feelgood episode. And uh that's your Russell Peters channel. That's the Russell Is it on the Russell Peters channel? It is. Yes, it is. [clears throat] All right, my brother. Let's wrap this [ __ ] up. Bring it home. Thank you. Thanks, Joseph. Great to see you, my friend. Always. You, too. You, too, [music] Jamie. Good to see you, pal.