JRE MMA Show #51 with Deontay Wilder

00:00right three two one boom and we're live my man what's up baby first of all how the fuck do you punch so hard i've seen a lot of hard punchers man i've been watching boxing since i was a little kid you've got some freakish power man yeah it's weird you got weird power i'm most definitely uh we always say i'm a freak of nature i definitely got some type of freakish power um i always tell the story that my grandmother said i was anointed by god she was always like if i got suspended for school and stuff she was always like god is trying to use you you're the one you're chosen you know yeah she was very big and you know she was big in the spirit spirituality and uh christianity you know so she's always be a teacher you know she wasn't really a discipline disciplinary type of woman she was a teacher she wanted to teach you tell you certain things she used to always say i

00:59i was annoying she wouldn't even let my parents whoop me well not in front of her that's how serious she were she like uh she like don't you better not whoop him he's gonna be the one to bring you up he's gonna be the one to bring you guys up don't whoop him you know um somebody tells you something like that at a young age you might believe it well i didn't really you know just being so young you know just being you know we we we we did as children do you know i didn't really think too much about it because i didn't understand what she was saying you know i didn't start understanding until you start putting away childish ways and you become a grown man you start venturing out in life and experiencing life on your own and start seeing certain things and then even even when i got out on my own you know i really there's a lot of things i didn't start understanding until i was 30 you know

01:49what i'm saying just to you know because certain things different things will happen in my life you know and that you you know sometimes you just you you deal with it and you handle it the best way you can handle but it's certain things that starts to happen he was like my grandma said something about this or you know it's just yeah you know and um that's how my life been but it's amazing how i can come in at 209 and fight a guy that's coming in at 260 and able to drop him like i did like it's crazy but we are i've always been stronger than mine than what i've looked it's interesting that the cruiserweight division doesn't get any love i mean the last time i got love was when evander hollyfield was fighting in it yeah that was really the last time people cared about the cruiserweight division now it's a forgotten division kind of um yeah yeah that's true you know um you

02:38know my brother's just starting in the in the uh cruiserweight division hopefully he can bring some excitement you know to it because you you're so right you know it's almost like they don't even talk about it it doesn't make any sense because the light heavyweight division gets a lot of love people love watching light heavyweight fights always gets lots of attention but the cruiserweight division is always like people look at it like why are you here yeah put on some weight go up yeah yeah it's true it's true because the heavyweights always overshadow yeah those guys did you really wait 209 the night of the fight i weighed 209 the night of the fight i was i was when they came in and weighed me they would just want to get an official way in and see see where you are so i'm all confident and like i like i know i didn't went up from 212 right and um i get on the scale and it says 209 like

03:27i'm like what you mean to tell me i lost three more pounds you know i'm like how how did i you know how did i do that my manager you know he thinks has come from stress and a lot of other different things or whatever the last couple days right before the fight that allow your body just just overall a lot of stuff was you know a lot of stuff going on uh he thinks is because of that you know because your body you're the balance of your your body and all that stuff like that but i i really don't know i really don't really care about weight because majority of my fighter the the majority of fighters that have fought me they've all weighed me like almost all my career you know so i always say i'd rather be the part than look the part because i've been in many situations where i've seen guys look in the part but then when it's when it get to the nitty-gritty

04:21they're not the part well you look the part too just don't get it twisted right just you look like a giant tommy hearns yeah you know when tommy was in his prime it's just uh it's what what makes sense though is that you keep that power in the 12th round whereas those bigger heavier guys maybe because the blood's got to push through all that extra muscle and all that extra body tissue maybe they can't keep that power the way you can because in the 12th round first of all i don't know how the fuck he got up i do not understand i remember watching it on tv i'm like wow he knocked him out in the 12th round that is crazy that is crazy and then of course you played that thing on your instagram which basically shows that you did knock him out right i definitely knocked him out he definitely didn't get up in time right he definitely didn't you know but it was his job to just get up

05:07at 10 it's not his job to know exactly when 10 seconds is correct correct no jack reese definitely had delays on that count i've seen the fight like six times and yeah definitely when he got to eight you know eight was a very long delay eight then he's like nine you know um like i said nine nine out of ten judges would have waved that off you know easily especially when you've seen the guy eye rolling the back of his head and he and him hitting the canvas and his his his his whole head meat penetrated like like it started getting tight the muscles in the head getting tight in the back and yeah you know but it's it's so much with that i know how he got i didn't understand how he got up either you know god is a good god well he believed it that's what he believed he believed it yeah i mean look he got up man and he got up and he boxed well yeah he recovered you you mean you came after

06:04him and you hit him with some more big shots yeah and he kept moving but then he started getting his legs back under him and then he started landing there's also other things as well too you know he's still a gypsy though yeah you know you know they believe in a lot of things yeah you know that right so yeah you never know you know it was a fucking phenomenal fight though man it was epic it was epic i can't amazing to watch most definitely i watched it by myself my family was gone they went out for the day so i was like this is great just me did you watch it on mute no see what i'm saying the commentators man they was horrible it was horrible i felt they was very biased it was a lot of things they was pointing out what fury were doing but not a lot of things what i was doing it just even when i knocked down in the ninth round they had all this to say but when i knocked down the

06:51ninth round it was so quiet and it wasn't even a devastating knockout you know i was getting hit behind the head but they wanted to call out me and him behind the ear but how many times i got hit behind the head never was revealed it was like even just this just this whole you know build up to it you know he sold his story he sold his story to america and you know any comeback sport it did with emotional you know emotions you know right people got emotionally tied to it people a lot of people could relate to his story you know certain things i could relate to and then you know when when you you when you capture you know the world and you capture people that that um they get emotional involved they want you to win right you know just because of the story i want them to win and stuff like that and um um the commentators you know especially paul especially uh and got very

07:44emotional with it a lot of the other other cast as well too just going back listening to them i didn't saw the fight six times you know um i definitely had you can see a very a better uh look on the fight muting the tv you know well i listened to the commentary but you know i do commentary myself for the ufc so a lot of times even if i'm listening i'm not really listening that much i'm just watching watching what's happening it's like i'm having a conversation in a room with a bunch of people right i was watching what was happening what was interesting to me was uh you made adjustments you know and one thing that you made a big adjustment is um when you landed in the 12th round you shorten everything up you shorten that right hand up it wasn't a winging punch at all it came straight down the pipe and then that left hand behind him and the fucking timing because he was

08:30already going down correct you already hit him clean he's going down then that fucking left hook man yeah whoa yeah it was crazy what was really crazy that he got up from because you snapped him around like the exorcist it was nuts when he went flying and then flatlined and laid back i was like it's over i can't believe he knocked him out in the 12th fucking round because all fight i was saying all this guy needs is one punch like you got that scary creepy power and then boom you could say that all day long but if it never lands it doesn't mean anything right but then it landed and the way it landed was like holy shit i told fury i said you're gonna have to be perfect for all 12 rounds i only have to be perfect for a couple of seconds yeah that's one thing that i did hear the commentators say they said that he's proven that he doesn't have to be perfect because he got hit but i was like

09:16but he didn't get hit clean he got hit one time like pretty solid behind the ear but the big one was in the 12th i mean i'm so impressed with both things with you being able to land like that with him being able to get up right right that was probably one of the best heavyweight fights i've fucking ever seen it was a lot of pressure on me that night you know sure i'm just the heavyweight division has has been dead for for a long time and then we started with last year or something just started really just progressing and people started to talk about it um especially been dead in america i remember a time when no one knew who who was the heavyweight champion of the world were you know it was the european guys and stuff like that so i always made it my business like i want to bring it back i want to do it like ali did and a lot of the other former

10:03champions did where people knew and understand the sport of boxing and who was the champion and stuff like that i always felt i had that that duty to fulfill even when i was in olympics because a lot of people don't even know i was in olympics right you know um i was the only american to medal in the 2008 olympics as well and just from that point i just feel like i had to be the one to bring it back and to come to la to bring out all the stars and like i got everyone here and you medaled in the olympics pretty soon pretty young in your boxing career from the time you started training correct like how long was it in until you were fighting the olympics i made the olympics team in a year and a half i started a year and a half of boxing i started boxing at 21 you know how fucking crazy that is i know so a year and a half of boxing you make the olympic team and you win a bronze medal

10:54that's that's insane you know they didn't even have my name written on the list of the one that's going to be on the team you know they always say i was uh i just came out of nowhere wilder came out of nowhere yeah you know i remember being in a um in a tournament and um had this elder man you know he's seen these kids like year after year after year and um he i remember him saying hey son who are you i said i'm deontay wilder and he looked at his the guy next to him you know where you from i said i'm from alabama he said alabama he laughed at me because they never seen no one from alabama you know you know we was based off of football and basketball and stuff like that i didn't even i was surprised it was a gym in alabama when i did start you know i was like wow like i can't believe like i'm in a boxing gym i never thought one would

11:49be here we didn't do that you know we didn't hear about it but i started because of my daughter that was born with spina bifida so you know i couldn't play football or basketball anymore because you had to go to school for that i needed money right now you know so i was looking at a way of making money like right now and you know i had a friend in college we was always talking about what we want to try to do and what are the things we're trying to do to get to that point because you know talk is cheap we can always say what we want but if you're not applying any type of action towards what you with your words you just it just it's just talk you know and he said he thought i should box he thought i should start boxing you know i thought it was a great idea as well too he thought he thought i should start but only for the simple fact that i handled myself well streetwise you know nobody ever seen

12:40me just lose or get beat up streetwise i was this quiet guy i tell people i never look for trouble but trouble always found me for some reason and um and when i did release the anger when i released like it was it was even back then was dramatic you know what i'm saying i kid you not even back then i believe it you know and um i could never calm down though at that point i was like the hawk i couldn't calm down it took me a lot to calm down even if i would see blood i still wouldn't calm down and it used to be scary for me because i you know even back then i had power but i was just i had a lot of aggression i had a lot of anger for some reason i never know why you know and um and we thought it was a great idea like you know what i'm gonna do it you know i can't lose what can i lose you know and um just went to the met up with the guy went to the gym you know up in tuscaloosa alabama and i

13:31walked in there i kid you not i felt like i heard the bells i mean i heard the sounds the heavenly sound hallelujah i swear i kid when i walked up in there it was just the the speed bag and the heavy bag being hit and the conversations and then the guys sparring and my eyes is everywhere i'm like this is it i've never been in some a place like this before ever you know i'm just it's just it's like new to me and i'm like i felt like this was it this is my last opportunity to be someone uh to be a professional athlete and be able to make money for my daughter i didn't know i came in as a journey me journeyman that's what i wanted to be i didn't want to you know i didn't know nothing about amateur and i knew about ali and what you know what he did his journey is amateur but i knew that i didn't knew the term of of an amateur like what what is you know i'm saying so walking into the gym my whole

14:24mentality was to make money for my daughter i like yo let me learn just the fundamentals and just stick me out of there but then we also we had this conversation in the gym about the olympic trials in the olympics so i remember it briefly like we started talking about me and my my trainer now we started talking about it and then it just became a whole big gym discussion everybody stopped doing what they was doing just to get in on this conversation we didn't know how to get there but we knew that if we kept winning that we'll we'll eventually get to that point so i just kept knocking guys out just kept winning kept winning and then that's how i got on the olympics team and then i told my daughter when i you know i made the olympics team i medaled and did all that and then i turned pro shortly after and i remember telling my daughter when she was one years old i said

15:13daddy gonna be a world champion he's gonna be able to support you beyond your belief you know for me it meant a lot for me to say that to her because i come from a place for unfulfilled premises you know you ever had someone promise you something you wait for years and years it don't happen you know you still holding on to that promise that they told you especially being a child you know you still like all right you know until it just don't happen no more or you see that certain thing that was supposed to be given it's no more there it's it's gone you know and um that really hurted me you know at times it's coming up that's why i'm a man of my word now you know if i tell someone something you can take it to the bank you know it's gonna happen you know it's just a you know god is on time god so it don't come when we want it but it's always on time when he's involved

16:01and when i'm involved when i say something i try to make it uh it's gonna you know i'm a man of my word no matter what i say so you walk in the gym you have this feeling you you know this is where you're meant to be and do you just how far away is this gym from your house at that time this gym i'm still in tussle north part that's about 30 probably about 45 minutes away from where i live too far you can you can get there and how often you go in there every day every day every day new change of life yeah you know what i was still working for buckwiser i was driving the truck for buckwiser so um at times you know anybody working buckwiser know that you you got a specific time to come in but you don't have a time where you get off you know sometimes you can work from five hours depending on if you have a bar bar route which is the easiest and then um you can have a 17 hour day

16:56which i had before where you had to go to way deep in the south way deep in other cities or whatever i used to have a stop that took me two hours to get there before i even you know um two hours to get there before i even can work my first stop and you talking about having 17 stops on your on your on your list to do you know me on your to-do list and your first stop is two hours you know i mean that's that was a hell of a ride just to be able to it's depressed it it makes you depressed just because you got to wait two hours just to get started you ready you want to go home as soon as possible i remember times where i used to drive the big truck to the to the to the gym so you have a big buckwiser truck advertising bud light outside of the gym and you'll see me out there used to be times where i used to sleep in my car right there at the gym you know i really wanted to get it i told my

17:48daughter that i would be a world champion and i was devoted to this sport which i still i'm still there to this day um but it was a lot of sacrifices i had to sacrifice for my daughter to to really just be here to be able to support her with spinal bifida because i knew i knew nothing about the disorder i'm 19 years old you know i'm just trying to a father a loving father just trying to support his daughter that's amazing yeah you know amazing story like that's that's a that's a different kind of motivation man then being in alabama we had to scrape up money to go to other states because we didn't really have too many heavyweights here you know so we had to go find sparring elsewhere my trainer tells the story to this day you know how we had to scrape up because you get a lot of people want to come apart be apart now whatever he always said where was y'all

18:36when we were scraping up the change and and you know we we you know we had to scrape up money for gas and something to eat and stuff which is all true you know yeah we all had to scrape it up now did anybody ever teach you to punch before you started boxing did you ever have an uncle that held pads for you or anything nah no nothing you know i didn't know nothing about boxing right you you definitely knew how to punch people of course for sure for sure for sure did you learn just from watching tv like you know just live streetwise you know i mean i mean the best thing the best thing in life is is is is experience it for yourself life teaches you everything you know sometimes you can get knowledge from books but it's nothing like real life right real reality so are you with the same trainer that you were when you first started i'm one of the few wow still with the same one that's

19:26amazing too yeah so how long did it take before it started feeling right to you like in terms of like throwing combinations and moving and it took a while it took a while because i had to i had to in the olympics i had to play catch up i'm always i always was playing catch up but these guys they've been boxing ever since they was young little boys and stuff and you know that's how i learned uh really about boxing and and how it would take your life away from you you know i'm looking at i'm looking at these young guys they coming up and some of them some of them cannot go to school because of boxing you know some of them they would tell me how they've missed birthdays they've missed holidays they've missed classes from school just to fulfill the dreams you know it could take it'll take everything away from you now i've seen some have graduate high school you know and that's a

20:19great accomplishment when you're in boxing to graduate high school you know because it's so much it's so many tournaments and so many different things because boxing is a year-round sport you know what i mean so it's so many different things that will go on that these kids you know these guys will try to you know make this team make that team go to this trip go to that trip just to get their spirits and i'm listening to them tell their story and here i am you know just coming from tusk louis alabama just picking it up playing catch up i'm listening to everyone's story and where they come from and how they do this and i'm studying them on certain things like it was amazing to be able to just go to the olympics and just do what i did to compete with these guys i was the least least experienced guy in the whole tournament of course the olympics you know how could you not be a year

21:06and a half in you're probably the least experienced guy to ever medal ever yeah probably so who the fuck else has even come close to that i bet if you went over the olympic records of guys who have boxed and medaled i bet you're number one with a bullet yeah probably so it's not even anything close that's crazy a year and a half in it was yeah it was it was amazing experience just to be there you know i mean yeah if it wasn't for boxing i probably would have never been able to to travel outside the country you know yeah boxing showed me everything you know well what's amazing is one of the things that you said that the heavyweight division which has always been the glamour division right when tyson was the champ and holyfield was the champ and all these different fighters the the holyfield riddick bow era i mean these were gigantic fights i mean everybody in the world was

21:49watching it was a big deal but then when klitschko won i remember i was on a plane with a buddy of mine who's a comedian and i said you know who that is and he goes no i go that's the heavyweight champion in the world he goes get the fuck out of here he goes it's a white guy i go isn't that crazy i go it's a white guy from russia and nobody knows who it is because it was a weird thing it's like everybody been the tommy morrison days people there's always the great white hope dudes always wanted a white guy to be the heavyweight champion jerry cooney he's gonna beat larry holmes larry holmes beat the fuck out of jerry cooney i remember i was in high school when that happened everybody was hoping that a white guy was gonna win and then when a white guy finally won nobody gave a shit because he was kind of he's got a very effective style but it's you know it's not the most fan

22:30friendly he would jab and grab you know he'd grab ahold of you and he could knock you out if he hit you clean he knocked a lot of guys out he was a big fucking guy but no one cared it was weird it was weird that because he was a guy living in germany and he you know he's huge in germany and speaking russian and english and everything else i mean he's a really smart guy right nobody cared it was weird it was fucking weird i know i remember because boxing was still huge people were still paying attention to floyd mayweather and canelo alvarez and manny pacquiao i mean all the lighter weight classes were still getting all this love bernard hopkins people were watching all these fights nobody gave a shit about the heavyweight division it was strange they said you know once you don't have an elite american heavyweight you know it dies down there they said where goes the heavyweight division

23:14so does boxing yeah and it's kind of true in some sense but but if it if it didn't happen that way it would the heavyweight division died down a lot of these guys that got a lot of shine wouldn't wouldn't have gotten no shine because the heavyweight division would have been in full force probably oh this is for sure well maybe it would have just made the whole sport bigger because you know this is this this is a good time now for boxing there's a lot of really high level champions it's a fun time to be a boxing fan to watch but to look at your record like when you went went into the wilder fight or what you excuse me when you did the tyson fury fight you would be with 39 and oh 39 no 39 and oh with 39 chaos okay 40 you know with 39 knockouts correct that's a movie record like you put that's like a guy fighting someone in creed right if you looked at that that's what it

24:05would be like what he's 40 like this is the guy you're fighting yeah he's 40 you know with 39 knockouts what like that would be a movie scene exactly like you would be a bad guy in a movie just designed to fuck people up but the fact that no one you know was was looking at this as this is this was a gigantic cultural moment this wasn't just a big heavyweight fight between two of the tallest guys and odd big tall but move good both you guys move real good i mean tyson for two for six foot what is he nine six nine 256 and he's bobbing and moving a lot and he's got that weird herky jerky style he's a trip man it's very unusual to have the two of you guys together to me in my eyes this was like a re-emergence of the heavyweight division in pop culture it's like everybody was finally paying attention to the heavyweight division in boxing like finally this was it and i was like

24:57this is a big fight this isn't just a big fight between two guys who are undefeated who are at the top of their game who you know tyson didn't lose his title he had it and you know they took it away from him but he was still undefeated right so that was a giant cultural moment and when it the fight went down and turned out to be one of the best heavyweight title fights ever right i mean fuck it's amazing even just to listen to you you know describing the stuff i still feel those those that excitement i'm sure i'm like oh wow like it was amazing it was amazing you know um i'm just ready for the rematch like if people was excited and enjoyed that just imagine the rematch you know this is gonna be amazing oh it's gonna be incredible and it puts anthony joshua in a terrible situation terrible he looks awful oh they begging now he looks terrible he's gonna fight some

25:49other guy no one gives a fuck and it's like your titles whatever titles you got they're bullshit yeah i mean anything everybody knows this is where the real title is i mean this is just a it's a wrap now yes yes they they definitely begging now he's he's trying to reach out all of a sudden now his management has been you know trying to reach out to mines as well you know um but he could have had this opportunity he had many opportunities he could have fought louise ortiz yeah he could have fought me he had a chance to fought fury as well like they're playing it safe over on that side of the pond playing it safe but no but you know people want to know who's the best now you know i'm saying especially after seeing the fury this fury fight you know people want to see who's the best and and i'm trying to i've been trying to show people you know who's the best i always say i'm the best i'm

26:39forever say i'm the best until i get defeated you know and um right now i'm in a candidate for you know fighter of the year and also you know um fight um fights of the year i only had it came i came back with louise ortiz that was an epic one and it came back with fury another epic fight and then we're gonna hit the two again that's the thing about you that makes it interesting is that you're not just a guy who knocks guys out but you're a guy who can take it you're a guy who can take it and you're a guy who figures out a way to win because there's a lot of guys that when it's going bad they don't come back when it's going good they win forever but when it's going bad it's hard for them to come back but you figure your way through bad situations and you make adjustments even even when something is going wrong with my body like i don't have seven operations on my arm you know

27:28it'd been many times like surgery breaking you know just breaking my arm turn my bicep um break um breaking my hand you know many times in my in my fights i've broken my hands and still fought you know torn my bicep coming in third degree burns you know all that stuff like i'm a i'm a true warrior you know i always think i'm like if i do something like if i break my hand or when i tore my bicep in the ring my whole mentality is changing to well that motherfucker gotta fall off that's why i'm gonna i gotta keep fighting i gotta keep going i'm a warrior you know and you can never tell you know because i still throw it with bad intention you know i'm still you know landing and hitting it just like with the uh chris areola fight uh when i broke my hand and tore my bicep my camp my team knew i broke my hand but i didn't mention i tore my bicep because i'm like why i tell them i don't want no one

28:24to panic i'm not worrying about it i'm gonna keep throwing it i gotta keep and chris was so surprised that i did all these things and was still able to throw it it's just the mentality when it comes to comeback like my mentality just overall it just i feel i'm the best and if you're gonna come and beat me you you gotta come and beat me this is not gonna be easy that's why most of these guys when they fight me they bring their a-game every last one of them you know because they know it's gonna be tough and they also know i have the power to get them out of there you know and a lot of guys you know they're afraid of that because i mean over and over again like you said my power lasts from the first through the 12th round you can never be like too comfortable with me because of that you know and and that's big for me to have you know i've always sat back and like saying you know i've said the

29:16same question myself like damn well you you got all this power like and you know me being the person with it i felt many times what i felt dangerous i felt like i felt like at times it could be too much power because i get scared of myself at times because i know i got the potential of the potential to hurt someone seriously you know just dealing with it just looking back and seeing some of the guys i've knocked out and seeing the reactions and you know the i done broke guys arms i done broke the eye sockets i done you know put them in seizures you know almost killed spuka in new york you know he laid there for for a while you know i didn't even see him breathing you know and so forth and so on you know it's been amazing to have so much power but still trying to understand it as well too you know

30:09in that fight with fury i couldn't like it was crazy i'm i couldn't i couldn't i couldn't straight my right arm out this thing feel like something was stopping me from really really just throwing it straight into the end for some reason like it was it was it was because you were trying to knock him out i definitely was trying to knock i was very anxious of knocking him out but it was something that was holding like i couldn't straighten it out i kept going back to my corner like why is why you can't throw the right hand it's right that this dude would bend down like right here in slow motion it seemed like to me i've seen this look many times i've knocked guys out many a times in sparring and in competition that put it right there because you have your your you have your your temple exposed and you know when you get hit in the temple it knocks your equilibrium off you know you

30:57can't get your body is not responding like the mind is and he'll be right there and it's like i still over over loop my punches i telegraph it i'm like it felt like someone's stopping me or something like like it was crazy that's why i said that you know i mean i kid you not i kid you not you think he put some gypsy magic on you come on with it i understand it i understand it now you know i understand everything but you have to give some credit to him and his style too right i mean he's he's a phenomenal boxer yes he is his style and his movement i mean and to see him pull that off and be that fresh even in the 12th i mean you had to have that kind of endurance to get up after you knocked him down i mean yeah you definitely i definitely take nothing from him he was he was he was a great fighter that night you

31:42know he definitely brought his best and um that's all you can that's all you can bring is your best and put on the performance that's why you know when we made this fight happen because it didn't take long for us to make this fight him it was just we both he reached out to me and said you know you know i feel embarrassed for what what joshua doing doing to you and you know i want to fight let's make it happen let's show the world who's the best who's the two best in the in the in the biz now like bro let's make it happen you know it was just like that awful conversation i like the build up to the fight too because both of you were very confident and both of you were talking that you're gonna beat the other and knock each other out but at the end of the fight when it was over it was nothing but respect it was nothing but respect and in this day and age man it's just there's something nice to see

32:28about two dudes who just went to war for 12 rounds and it turned out to be a draw and even after all that nothing but respect right most definitely and that's what it's all about you know two guys can be they be at each other and you know they say we want to hurt each other even to the point you say you want to kill each other you know i mean it's just the build-up it's part of the sport you know um it's up to us to be as professional as possible when it comes to that because we're not gonna really punch each other in the way in so why would we mess up our money when we're trying to support our children right you know um a lot of things that happened in the in the press conferences and stuff was because of others everybody else want to push and shove the ones that don't really matter they're not going to be in the ring everybody want to push and shove so it makes it look worse than

33:17what it really is when you got two guys that really that matters that's getting in the ring you know but even you know a lot of people like oh they're smiling at each other they're doing this like that don't mean nothing we still got to get in the ring at the end of the day and punch each other in the face and and that's the big thing about it he wanted to put on a great performance and support his family as well as i you know especially because it's been in my country i feel like i had the world attention now i've been waiting for this moment for so long it's like i got him gotta make it gotta make a great stand and you know that with all the um the pressure and and and so anxious i this is i was anxious to do something that i already does and that's in fights in devastating fashion i didn't have to force that and i know that if i force it never happens like i want it you know i mean but it was

34:10just it's just overwhelming to have the world attention yeah you know how much did it feel than a regular fight it felt just it was amazing it was amazing man i swear it was just to come out there and just you know come out and just feel the energy of the people they were so excited just and i was like i already knew who all was certain people was coming because we was you know but it doesn't matter who was there it's just the point of just having the the center of attention i didn't have to fight against no other sport and that like that because you know it's hard here in america it's hard to make it in the word america every time i fought i've had to fight against other sports and certain things you know and it's always always been difficult especially every fight i've had to promote it by myself because these guys are scared to talk or then some of them you know with ortiz

35:02you know he spoke spanish although it was a epic fight he spoke spanish and sometime i had to do some of the spanish tv you know for my because they wouldn't do it like it was yeah you know just to get it out you know but with fury i knew i had the right dancing partner well it seems for you that considering how recently you actually started boxing i mean what do you it's what are you 11 years in now how many years 11 years that's fucking crazy like you're just still learning yeah which is insane like you're getting you're getting better i mean as you're the champion you're getting better right that is uh i mean and a guy like lewis ortiz is an epic dance partner for that yeah because you're dealing with this guy who goes to the cuban amateur program he's a southpaw big motherfucker you know good boxer man real over 360 some amateur fights you know that's a lot if i had

35:56that that meant that much experience you know you just never know and he's another one you knocked out late in the fight yeah yeah for sure i think he had the most difficult style out of anyone i fought though thus far though just being southpaw you don't really get too much training guys with southpaw you're not too and not too many around that's heavyweight and and and he's a very slick and fast counter puncher that's what he waits on and you know with fighting him i really really really had to think about my next move or going in what i had to do you know um so artis i understand why a lot of these guys don't want to fight artis yeah they say he old but they don't want to get in there they don't want to go against his old that old man though you know he's not too old no he's not he's old but he's not too old he'll still fuck you up yeah yeah he's he moved his last fight man he looked

36:48phenomenal yeah you know i mean he just he moves good he's his jab is outstanding and he's so well schooled you know it's like you see the little stutter faint that he does he pops that jab on you and look he's always reading you looking for your reactions he's a beast man he is he is and i always give him credit for that until i see someone just come in and dominate him yeah you know we even with me and him um we had we had uh a connection between our daughters you know because he's got an ill daughter as well and as well as i that's why when a lot of stuff start coming out with him you know saying that he did drugs and not passing the test the um the vata test and stuff all that i still wanted to fight him i still wanted to bless him with the opportunity because of his daughter because i can relate to him

37:36just like just like i say this the story with with fear reselling with the the uh mental illness and stuff like how people was emotionally tired like i got emotionally tied to artis because he was a father that dealt with a child with a disability as well as i so i know how hard it is to take care of children with disabilities and i know it takes a lot of money you know so yeah i'm always for him you know i've been talking about him ever since that time we fought we lose a draw i would have still been talking about him because of the the emotional ties that i have with him i understand them and when you understand a person you root for that person no matter what no matter whose side you on or whatever when a person has something you feel like it's worse than the next person or you can relate you know you you want them to win yeah you know now that's beautiful man and i think that uh

38:29having a guy like ortiz uh as a an opponent that's one of those fights that i think for a guy like you who doesn't have a lot of amateur experience when you when you fight a guy that's that seasoned and you get to see like what it looks like you get to see what it looks like when you're in the ring with a guy who's had just as you said 300 plus amateur fights yeah or overall that's a i mean that's an amazing learning opportunity right oh most definitely most definitely and um you know i just just had the confidence that i was i was the best i was no matter what he had i always going with that confident though you know i blocked everything that um his accomplishments and we knew what we was up against you know but you know they was calling him the boogeyman of the division and at that point in time i still needed to prove myself because you know people still doubted me they you

39:17know been doubting me from the start of my career and i was like since nobody i want to fight him i want to bless him with this opportunity so these next moves that i made was tavern too then ortiz then fury well this tavern highlight knockout was one of the most ridiculous knockouts of all time when you stand there with your hands down how you step forward and you it's like it was a comic book scene yeah it's like the way you knocked him out like i said about like you being a bad guy in a movie it seemed like you were a bad guy in a boxing movie like it didn't make any sense you were the guy like if i was say if there's someone was a i was a coach of a good guy and i was sitting ringside and i was watching you do that we'd be like shit yeah i i can't i'm gonna tell you man um when i stood over him like that i was outside of my body i could see me and him standing there

40:06and like i was a third person wow i can't explain it you know and then when i started throwing the punches like i went back into my body and start welling on them or whatever i can't i can't explain that wow that feeling there's so many different things that happens that was a big one too because i got shared so much online yes yeah that was the start of it millions and millions of people saw that online and they're like what in the fuck has this guy gotten his hands and that's when they started who is this guy why we haven't heard about this guy he's the champ yeah yeah that's when people what it's like everybody's waking up to the heavyweight division all of a sudden it was so true and it was the perfect convert there it is like that dude play it for the beginning jamie here it goes boom i mean come on you know straight boxing skills you know i i got boxing skills you

40:53know when i first fought him i showed all that i stayed disciplined i didn't abandon the game plan you know and i showed people i could box yeah and he that was probably the only time i just really just stayed super disciplined not this fight but the first one this part right this one right here i went outside of my body right here i was standing then i came back i kid you not i don't know what the hell was going on with me that was ridiculous that was ridiculous he hit him in the back of the head no he didn't yeah he was uh he was quite upset that's the strangest little concoction he's got on this dreadlocks there yeah look like tape yeah that seems like that would get in the way to keep it up you know hazeans believe in that too that was that was sweet too and then the referee get out of me ref like i'm really now it would have been funny if the ref would have let go he rode to the other

41:44corner you're talking about a movie yeah that would have been but you know that fight right there was the real start of it all you know in terms of public perception exactly exactly i knew i was really going somewhere uh with that especially when it went viral and and then coming back you know with the rt's made it because people it made that much more interesting yeah you know to see what i'm going to do now because people tune in now whether they they love me or hate me they tune in to see can i knock the next person out you know at this point in time you know because a lot of people didn't even know i was olympian you know um you know people i don't really even get recognized for really being the wbc champion you know in other people's eyes it's just that motherfucker that'll knock you out you know what i'm saying everywhere i go now after the tyson fight they realize you're the champ i

42:33mean yes you you're it used to be i mean obviously the the belts are fragmented because there's a lot of sanctioning organizations but it used to be there was anthony joshua and you but people are not paying attention to anthony joshua right now no it's just it's like he's literally been forgotten most definitely and that's the that's a great way to put it he's really been forgotten how much he's defended his title since the klitschko fight how many times twice maybe three i'm not i remember the parker was parker after yeah parker was out there parker um was it the tackle was tackling before well what is interesting is if if this continues you know if you and tyson have a rematch and then you eventually get to fight anthony joshua if you guys fight in europe i mean you might be able to fill up some giant fucking crazy ass soccer arena sometimes it's gonna be crazy i mean if you if you

43:29go over to england and fight him there that would be insane because he's a giant superstar over there most definitely and um i definitely um um we'll definitely be able to go over there you know get an opportunity to go over there you know even if it ain't with joshua even if it was somewhere i want to expand out there as well too uh but um we'll definitely get a fight with joshua out there and probably bring a hundred hundred thousand or plus you know the only thing about the uk a lot of a lot of people think that's what the money is but that's not true you know they got a cap on their money you know it ain't like it ain't like here in america america always be will be the mega of boxing anything pertaining to that because the money is here you know how they sell their pay-per-view and how we sell out is like day and night they 20 we go from shit the cheapest 50 some

44:19on up to 100 and people pay for people you know it's fascinating and people think because you see more people equals more dollars but you know and that's you know it's a cap it's a cap but they you can only make so much over there and that's it if it was that if it wasn't that fact then you'll see more people from america going to the uk to fight right you know well the casinos in vegas are they're they're probably going to want to do this fight next that's where they want it because they want all that extra gambling money and restaurant money and show money right that's where i would likely i would i would say it's likely going to wind up it could be you know we got a lot of places you know i wouldn't mind going back to new york as well boxing square garden yeah i mean that's you know you got so many diverse people there you know um a lot of people look at travels and stuff like that you

45:09know all those be busy and stuff you know people want it still to be easy access see vegas vegas makes it easy for people right because you know the airport is right there and in five minutes away you're on the strip and that's what most of the people be at and stuff but you know we'll see when the time comes you know i'm open for any any any place you know when are you guys talking about a rematch maybe uh we're looking at april may june somewhere up in there you know and uh we'll see what happen i'm excited though you know he said he's back in the gym he hit me up he sent me a video saying how you back in the gym and stuff like that and i just hit back him likewise because it's crazy because his mindset is it's being back in the gym and mine is the same way you know i've been i've been traveling a lot talking about this fight like it's been like i'm already you know in in discussion

46:03with certain outlets whatever it's like we've been boosting up this neck this rematch fight like it's it's it's almost here it's been crazy though it's what my career needed as well too you know um so i don't mind i've been from la but to new york i'm just getting from new york now i'm back here and now i'm gonna go to my original home town i got some things i gotta do out there enjoy the the uh holidays i'm gonna take a vacation with my family and then uh once i get back i'm back into the gym myself well boxing fans hardcore boxing fans already knew who you are but this was the breakthrough fight for the general public this is a breakthrough fight where people know about it now and the next fight the rematch first of all you couldn't ask for a better dance partner when it comes to promotion i mean tyson's fantastic on the microphone he's hilarious he's got that great

46:50accent it's fun to listen to him talk so you guys promoting this and getting ready for whatever it april may june whenever it takes place i mean this is going to be probably one of the biggest heavyweight fights if not the biggest of all time oh man i'm just so excited you know i mean because i i can see i can visualize it now i couldn't really visualize how big this could become i knew it was going to be big but you just don't know how people are you know people are funny especially you know you know people always have things to do you know you nailed it that there was nothing else competing with you there's nothing else there to watch it was perfect it was a perfect storm and then it was in la so all the stars came out it was a big deal man it was amazing man i'll never forget it you know excuse me like i said i've been waiting for this i've been waiting for that moment for so long you know

47:41they don't have this problem in the uk because no matter you know no matter what they love boxing it's their second nature sport they don't have college sports and professional sports that they had to deal with boxing like i said their second nature sport and you know and you know they don't have as many as people we have here they have like what maybe 66 million something like that uh alabama and mississippi they can fit uk and alabama mississippi combined together but they can fit the whole state in in in texas and still have space which over here we got so much we got how many colleges and professional sports and you know boxing is like probably the last sport you know on the list you know i'm probably you know exaggerating with that a little bit but it's definitely seemed like that we definitely you know in the back and there's so much to compete with it's so it's so hard here

48:35to do it and then when you when you when you finally get that shine you know that's where it comes from you know when i'm in it when you're in it and you understand it is like how it's so hard it was to get it to get to this point you know down near 11 years like to get to this point and then when you finally get here it's like you're here you know in the big time yeah when you think back when you're driving that budweiser truck i just i i appreciate every job that i had you know i appreciate every everything that you know that it happened to me in my life it may allow me to appreciate you know who i am now allow me to appreciate just the smaller things it allowed me to just be myself you know i'm the type of person that i don't really care about fame i don't even want to be called the celebrity you know i mean i i want to be able to live my life and do what i do

49:30i want to be able to enjoy just the smallest things of life i don't want people to take that away from me you know i mean being able to go to a movie or a grocery store whatever spend time with the family can't shut because i like cooking i like going to the grocery stores the fresh market pick out my fruit and stuff that i want to put in my whatever i'm preparing for the night and stuff like that you know i'm a people's person as well so i don't mind being bothered but you know it can get crazy i've seen other people get get crazy for now right mad you know and they've said it themselves like they don't they wish that they could do certain things normal things but people people people take it to the next level you know get all in your big especially after this fight like i i had to cut some people you know i had to cut some people because their intentions was already

50:19wrong they seen the potential i put they they'd seen the opportunity and they tried to make moves on me you know already yeah you know and different things that's why i said lonely at the top you know because you get to the point where you don't know who to trust you start down everybody around you you know i'm an energy person so i'm always refreshing the feeling of the energy let me see what it feels like like like you know i'm saying that'll always allow me to meet certain people to be around certain people because if you change your presence the energy that you just it would change as well too so it changes it shifts the way you feel when you're around them then all of a sudden you feel like they're looking for angles they're trying to profit off of you they're trying to get you to do things yes you know and you know i'm a strong-minded person i got a lot of

51:06strong-minded men around me i always tell people we speak positive we think positive and we surround ourselves by positive you know positive energy you know and then our results is always positive the only time you ever see me you know acting out i would say if someone come and break that piece you'll never find me and my brothers you know out you know messing with someone starting anything i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not the i'm not the one that start anything because i want peace i don't even want to see a fight outside if it's not in the boxing ring i'll walk away if i see it on the outside because i feel like they don't know what they're doing you know i mean it's there's something can happen easily you see guns being pulled out nowadays and you know any little thing so i try to stay away from confrontation as much as possible that's why i thank god that i'm a home

51:57body you know if i'm not here i'm at home you know because they say when you have to find when you have to you know find things to do when you have to leave home all the time you don't have a peaceful home and um i believe in that you know i don't understand when you when it's busy you have to work and stuff that's one thing but you know when you just man let's go here let's get out and do see i don't want to i don't i don't put myself out there to be a risk for no one you know my risk is at home if something gonna happen then you know deontay was at home you know i don't i don't put myself out there to have chances at the chance of where people look down and say hey let's do this let's do that to him or i try to because i know what i'm capable of doing you know i mean and i like being me i just like being laid back down to earth get along with everyone i'm a people's person and a lot of people

52:50will never know it because they only see the perspective of me in the ring or they see me on youtube and yeah you're always intense yes but you're a very mellow guy like right now i'm super i'm i'm a lady i'm just i'm the coolest i'm the best you know and well it's got to help too that you train a lot so you know yeah relieve the stress yeah you must you must be training constantly right yeah i mean i get my times in you know um if i'm not with my family i love my family you know i love i got some beautiful children i got a beautiful woman and i just i love being around them i love being able to see my children grow being able to see them smile you know tell me good morning or kiss me just on free will without me having to tell them or ask them and just come up and kiss me and say how much they love me and stuff it feels good the only way you want to if you want to see me cry

53:39deal with kids it don't even have to be my kids it can be others as well i love kids it's nothing and what hurts me so bad with kids is that to see some kids have to have to grow fast faster than what they they normally would have to you know have to be an adult fast because i i think your childhood years are some of your best years of your life because you don't have really no responsibilities and when you get out into the real world that's when reality hits that's when it's like oh this this this this is real you know so my heart goes out to a lot of kids i love i love children and that what keeps me strong in this sport you know do you worry about getting more famous do you worry about the consequences i don't think about i don't think about getting more famous you know i i know it comes it comes with the territory you know and i and even if people know

54:32everything i just want people just you know don't don't don't hold me don't don't look at me as someone that that holds me higher than then you know people have high high expectations for you and when you do something they think the you know the biggest thing in the world to happen or right you know you can do the same thing as as a being that work at matt donna does but because i have the name and he doesn't then it makes it even more you know worse than what he done you know right i'm like we all are humans yeah we are humans we're gonna make mistakes we're gonna do things you probably do some things that you don't supposed to do or you get in trouble with doing you know it's just part of life you know and i never i never make myself seem like i'm better than anyone you know i'm the type of guy i'll talk to a homeless man and if the if the conversation led we'll we'll we'll go i'm a

55:28people's person my mother was a people person the term is she never met strangers i never meet strangers because you can never know um by me interacting with a person do i know that person or not because of the how we're interacting with each other and that's just me i'm a people's because you just never know who you may meet right and what they can give you what advice or what you can give them you know to make their day better you know or hug or say man i love you man you know that's that's the final things like that's what life about all about it ain't also much about who you are and how much money you got because that can be gone tomorrow you know it ain't about that you know it's about treating people with respect you treat me with respect i treat you no matter what where you are in life because you're a human being and that's what i'm all about and then as you get

56:13more famous though you're going to get more the numbers are just that's where it gets unmanageable when people start waiting for it like you you ever see what it looks like when manny pacquiao's training no when he was in his prime especially when he's training in the philippines is it was insane like freddie roach was there with him and you know they'd be look outside and people be holding their phones up just waiting for him to look outside the window just hundreds of people everywhere he goes and you know he lives in the philippines so it's uh he's this superstar in this incredibly poor country and he's a really humble guy too but it's it almost see i mean he handles it in an amazing way i don't know how that guy does it but he's he's very chill too yeah well he had to have you know he'd have been knocked down and had to be get had to be brought back up you know

56:54life life teaches you lessons and and um and god bless you sometimes with second chances you know and when you do get the second chance you know how to handle a little bit better than the first time you know hopefully you don't never have to go through nothing um dramatic you know or nothing severe you know to to learn a lesson yeah you know um because he definitely he probably would tell you himself you know there's a lot of things that he was doing that he had to correct you know he had to get himself right or whatever because it can take you away you know if a person dwells so much not saying manny did this but just talking in general if a person dwells so much on you know being famous and people loving him and knowing him and stuff like that like it can take their mind away from them they'll become this type of person that's when people say oh you've changed you've changed

57:42you know and then they make i've seen it firsthand i've seen a person with no money and then when they get some money they don't know they're changing right you know it's just something that's happening and people will say you changing they'll be like no i'm just they'll think they're just them you know what i'm saying right but not in reality you know so slowly but surely they're changing and stuff like and i'm i'm the type of person that i'm not judgmental of people's lives i'm the type of person that whatever you do in your life yeah you chose to do that i mean who am i to to judge you i don't judge people because i don't want them to judge me you know i mean whatever i'm the type of person that whatever you get involved with it's a consequences that you is it's consequences behind your action that you you're going to have to face whether you do the right thing or the wrong thing

58:32you're going to have to face the consequences behind it yeah and only you're going to have to face it you know at the end of the day and that's why i respect people you know whatever you do you know that's your it's your life have fun with your life you know we make mistakes to correct them long we learn from our mistakes then hey we're all human you know now coming to this rematch what would you do differently in this rematch what i would do differently i would i wouldn't abandon the body i hurt him twice in the body i should have kept going with the body mark kept telling me to keep going to the body going to the head go to the head go go to the body and i abandoned that whole thing um i would probably jab more and i'd definitely be more calmer this time around you know when you you know though when you when you find a guy twice you the first time you get to experience him the

59:26second time y'all kind of know each other a little bit better than the first time and um i really felt fury brought his fury brought the best of fury but it definitely wasn't the best of deontay wilder and uh at this point in time we know what to train for because i don't think he's going to change nothing up he fought a great game you know a great fight and i don't think it's you know nothing that could be changed up maybe he probably lose a little if he get in the gym now he'll he'll be a little bit lighter for sure and that could be that could mean a little bit lighter on the feet though you know what i'm saying um but we're definitely going to adjust uh make some small adjustments and uh i can't wait it's gonna it's gonna be explosive now when you do a training camp for a big fight like this how many weeks do you prepare for this fight was three months three months and so do you start

60:12up and start slowly ramping and who who sets your schedule in terms of like what you do every day with um with camp my my long time trainer jay he sets up like all the sparring partners and stuff i got strength and conditioning coach and and different and shelves and stuff like that so we i got all that underhand uh um i got all that you know so someone prepares all your foods they prepare your diet yeah yeah for sure for sure that's why i was surprised i came in so such a low weight even at 212 because you know in camp and stuff you know my i got such a high metabolism it just i just never know i don't i don't really just keep up with my weight i'm not the type of guy that i weigh in all the time or whatever i think because i've got i haven't gotten by with this power for so long it's like you know it's just it's just an image you know i can't gain weight like

61:06i i don't understand you know i may have to do that blood testing thing and see like they got it where you can take your blood and they can do a test and see what types of food would make you gain weight and i think i'm i'm i'm i'm uh try that out but do you want to gain any weight yeah well i want to gain a little bit i always had a goal of being 245 with my 67 six 67 frame but do you think that being 245 you might get tired or in the later rounds no you see you gain you gain weight and keep the speed so it's a you know as you gaining you continue to to work keep your speed that's how that's how we always wanted to to uh to go at it because we we had a lot of guys that you know that specialize in bulking and stuff like that and we didn't want that we didn't want i didn't want to bulk up right you know i mean i wanted to gain weight and keep the speed you know but just as much as i gain weight

61:57as much as i work out and my metabolism so high so it's like it's like i lose weight in my sleep how many times they have you eat in a day we was eating about three three times three to four times a day and like what kind of what kind of foods they have any kind of special diet yeah we was eating steak fish and chicken you know a lot of a lot of uh low carb sweet potatoes okay you know um we were eating you know i definitely have us with since i'm in the south you know i had to have me some greens and cornbread you know um we was doing a lot of um um let me see damn i'm getting rid of my i know we had mashed potatoes we had a lot of uh hop and johns hop and johns is like um like uh penton beans and rice together with onions and stuff like that you put up squash do a lot of spinach we have spinach i was doing a lot of tuna um so just whole foods very healthy yeah most definitely very very healthy

62:57food you know i get all my stuff from the whole food do they have you supplementing with vitamins or anything like that correct i was using the vitamins and stuff i was using the vitamins i did the vitamins i did the whole nine with the vitamin thing like i really had they they would bring me a a um a kind of holder for the pills and stuff for each day of the week and stuff like that and just and still like i wouldn't gain with the ortiz fighting game like still like i'm like what the world going on with my body i don't know what type of freakish body i have you know because i try to put on the weight we're gonna try another method this time i'm gonna actually try to eat uh i'm gonna try to eat every three hours or so like that i'm gonna have my assistant with me and whatever so he'll bring me protein shakes you know and being able to all right you're just eating

63:48something right i want to put i want to see what this weight thing will look like you know um we're gonna like i said this next fight is gonna be good but the problem is uh you're doing so well like i don't know if i would do shit different it seems like don't fix it if it's not broken in terms of that i know because you're the thing about you is your endurance is so consistent when you're in the 12th round your endurance is very consistent it's not like a lot of big guys they drop off later in the fight and you see them leaning on each other more taking more time in between exchanges you know trying to pace themselves out trying to restore that energy you've got that energy in the 12th round and part of that might be because you're walking around 212 215 and you're fighting 209 it might that might be a real big positive because obviously the power is not an issue so why else would you want

64:38any weight you know uh like i was telling my you know some of my my team want to see it yeah um they want to see certain adjustments or whatever and they know they know that i'm only going to do what i want to do you know they know they can't make me or force me to do that but i am a team player you know i'm saying i i am a type of person that if everybody in agreeance on something no matter how i feel about it i'm like all right because we're a team we always been this way like we with my team i got i got a great team you know we never leave a discussion without agreeing we just never do you know no matter what it is we always come to agreeance on something and with this situation i told them i'm like all right i'm gonna try so what do they want how much they want you to gain they haven't said how much but they want you to put some weight on put some weight on and this is

65:34your strength and conditioning coach is this your boxing coach um management and everything stuff like yeah everybody in the grants so you know i could easily say no i ain't doing this my power you know you know which i've said before i like well i really don't need the weight it's just like what you were just describing i like i was saying the same thing i mean my i got power and i got true power and uh but i just started thinking i was like i'm a team player as well you know i'm never feel like although i'm the fighter that's gonna be in the ring they're not gonna be fighting but we're a team though and i'm a you know i'm a team sport so how much i mean i'm a team player and you know they have you doing weight lifting what do they have you doing yeah we're gonna do weight lifting are you doing it were you doing it for this camp most definitely what kind of stuff we live for

66:22strength so we do a lot of stuff lifting for deadlifts cleans that kind of stuff all that the ropes you know um pull-ups different things like that but um i'm gonna go back to uh not only lifting for strength but for balance as well too you know we used to do a lot of things with the balance ball lifting weights with the balance ball and a lot of stuff with the meds ball um i used to have this trainer that i loved you know he was amazing what happened to him when i had my title fight you know i think he started listening to people you know i think he should he he saw a potential he told he saw uh he saw he saw a opportunity where he he felt like he can make a lot of money off of me you know and it wasn't the case it's like we weren't shortcutting him we was he was getting paid the right amount of money but you know how people don't understand boxing they think it's more

67:17intuitive or you can get more he tried to get rich off me really you know off of one client i'm like bro it's many of it many's of you's yeah you know i'm saying it's very few's of me you know i'm saying and it's like we want i'm like i miss him though i miss him and and but when you when you when you when you look at me like a piece of meat and try to benefit more than what really try to do then you know you didn't you didn't cross me like you can't be trusted at the point but he had me right he used to have me right i love everything he used to do i we still talk about him to this day we had to move on though you know because we know what his his intentions was and just imagine now you let them back in you know they may do right then they may not you know you just you just never know but that is a problem once you have conflict once you're all you start having conflict then you continue to

68:11have conflict then it escalates yeah yeah and then well people always do think that they're worth more yeah yeah it's it's sad though because i'm talking about he used to have me right everything but oh man i just but this is a thing that i think that you there's a lot of good trainers out there yes and all you have to do is kind of explain what the guy was doing and how he was setting it up and you'll find a guy especially when you consider all the i mean it's not just for boxing but there's so many guys that do that for pro sports and now they're adapting to boxing and mma is seeing a lot of this as well you're seeing all these guys who are organizing these programs that you know they might have been doing nfl or nba now instead they're doing it for boxing correct for mma it's a it's a lot of things that um in strength training that that we do is a lot of things that we didn't

69:06do because you know i'm getting away with a lot of things there's a lot of things in training that i that we does that a lot of fighter just don't do you know i'm saying it's like the you know most time when i go in i'm hitting you know when i have a camp it's mostly just uh um hitting the speed uh hitting the mitts you know hitting the mitts and going over different things i barely go in hit speed bad i definitely don't do no jump ropes you know sometimes hit the heavy bags you know i'm saying because of this the power that i have a certain thing we trying to get coordination down and timing you know i mean because i know if i hear any man they're going to sleep you know i mean we know this and um it's just a lot of things that that i just i didn't do because i'm getting away with it i'm still i still get away with it you know i mean but at this point in time in my career now we have the

70:01world attention you know i want a better me i want a new me it's a new deontay coming you know and uh i'm so serious about it that's why when my team talk about certain things i'm like i'm down for it let's make it happen let's see what happens we can at least try that's all i can get in the benefit of although i may feel a certain way because i'm still i'm the one in there fighting but like again like they did we're a team so i'm at least can get in the benefit of the doubt and and put forth an effort into trying when you're going through a camp uh how many days a week are you doing strength conditioning and are you running in the mornings like how are you scheduling your workouts um strength training is is three times a week you know um we go light on sparring days because you know i got all these big guys in there and stuff so i need some strength for sparring um but we're

70:51going three times uh monday wednesdays and friday so on sparring days you go light or you go light on sparring on sparring days we go light with the weights like stuff like that so that you have energy for sparring correct right and then on days where you're not sparring then you hit it hard correct so um so somebody organizes all this stuff for you now when you do strength and conditioning are you running as well so we we don't run we don't like jogging i don't do no jogging you know um we do everything fast we want to we want to to to act uh we want to activate the fast um twitch muscles you know i'm saying we do everything with rapid speed if i'm if i'm doing anything consists of me moving my feet is sprinting and stuff stuff like that and i wear a uh 45 pound vest on me as well too and all my exercise and everything that i do to have that extra weight on me

71:40really um everything chin-ups everything squats everything everything i used to do that with this the train that i was talking about you know we used to do everything with this do you do plyometrics like that as well not so much i still do um every now and again every now and again but we finna do a lot of things we finna um we finna enhance it oh like i said i'm here i feel like i'm here and i know just being regular me just doing things that i would normally would do got me to this point but now i just feel like i'm on a whole nother level now i just feel like like now it's time to apply the things that need to be really done and not the things that you know you can do and get away with right you know i'm saying and that's just how i feel at this point in time so come to rematch they will see a new deontay wilder well that is one of the things that's exciting about you like i

72:34said is that if you're only been boxing for 11 years i mean you're just starting to really touch your potential you're still putting combinations together you're still putting your footwork with those combinations and learning new moves i mean you're not talking about a guy like louise ortiz who's gone through just a gigantic amateur career and professional career and he knows what he knows right he's not learning he's maintaining you're learning yeah most definitely that's one of the things that's so exciting about you in this stage of your career being emerging as a star yeah most definitely you know just to just to learn i always said that when i when i when i when there's nothing else to learn then i don't want to be in this sport yeah you know i don't want to be a know-it-all do you have a an exit strategy do you know when you want to get out um my goal is to unify the division

73:18whether it be one champion one face one name be the undisputed the undefeated the unified heavyweight champion of the world i want to defend that for a couple of years maybe until i be all the top guys in the division even maybe in the in the second tier and then once i complete that i'm done like i'm done so maybe five more years i say i say i have 10 or less but i'm more on a 10 year i'm more on the less lesser over the years than anything i just want to accomplish my old man and uh you are you're 30 now or 31 33 33 33 33 yeah started at 21 you know no too i don't take too much punishment you know i mean um that's it i always tell you know i got a great team outside of boxing you know one day i will get that phone call and they will say mr wiley you don't have to work no more in your life you know i build for for for generation wealth this is not just for

74:17the moment in time or this you know just right now what i can do it's all for my children and it'll always be for my children a lot of people can come in with different stories about themselves doing this and that but when they're dealing with your children you know you always want to see them outgrow you right you know so with that being said they got a long life to live and it's up to me to be able to provide for them so they can be able to to do what they they need to do i want to i want them to be able to to do what they need to do but but definitely not do not just sit on their ass where they don't want to have to do nothing right i ain't into that business i man it's always been hard for me you know i mean no opportunities ever really been given and if it has been an opportunity given it's a small one what i had to create an opportunity inside of an opportunity it's always

75:08been like that for my life but don't you think that's also part of the reason why you have so much power behind you not just physical power punching power but determination yes because you've had to overcome adversity you've had to push through and that that gives you that willpower most definitely you hit it you hit the nail right on the head now are you a boxing fan outside of your own career do you enjoy boxing i do i do i try to attend uh as many as fights as i can you know um i have a you know i definitely have a lot of stuff that goes on try to get me out there even more um so you know we definitely be working on the outside of boxing but i'm definitely yeah i definitely enjoy the sport just seeing other guys do you um when you think about yourself as being this heavyweight who is uh you know at the top of the division now and you you look at all these younger uh lighter weight fighters

75:57you know like guys like terrence crawford lomachenko all these really fantastic up-and-coming fighters yeah do you uh do you try to apply any of the stuff that they do no not necessarily you know um it's good to look at and stuff like that but i'm just me right i like my style um and you know i never i never i never look and see what those what those guy does and try to apply to to my style you know what about past heavyweights no no past heavyweights either you know my ultimate my all-time um well my idol is muhammad ali you know i love muhammad not only just what he did in the inside of the ring you know because he's lost many a times he you know he could predict certain things but then sometimes his prediction don't come true it was basically what he did on the outside he was he knew who he were he

76:48knew what he represented he knew what he stood for you know and that was strong for me because i'm the same way you know to this day i know who i am i know what i represent i know what i stand for you know and uh that meant a lot to me just to see him just especially in those times and days to be so strong and just paved the way you know just like jack johnson paved the way for muhammad ali then you know and then muhammad ali paved the way for us and so forth and so on with all the other great fighters um but you know we have tried to add certain moves you know uh evander holofield used to do this he'll step step back like a counter punch he'll try to come in on you and then when he get you to react he'll step back and try to counter punch we got certain codes that we will this is like baseball or whatever we got certain things that we can say you know um and then i'll know what they

77:42saying just so it won't be like it's just regular boxing all right do the one two or stand like this because they'll understand what you're saying but if you lose it in terms like give it nicknames or whatever uh we try to do that or whatever but how beneficial how beneficial would it be for you to work with different people i don't know i don't know i don't um i love my team you know i wouldn't say ever not have your team right i mean but i feel like a guy like you you have so much talent it would be fascinating to see you just you know take a day with virgil hill take a day with this guy would you get together with different people just it just seems like you have so much possibility there's so much my only thing is my only thing with it is that we'll we'll with their egos you know be able to handle minds you know a lot of these trainers have big egos not saying that these you know

78:35not saying that the guys you name have them just saying in general i know what you're saying you know i never worked with none of them but you know when the egos come together when a trainer feel like they you need him you know i'm saying and stuff like that then that's when things go wrong yeah you know i'm saying because some trainers are like you need me you know they feel like if you don't have them yeah then you know you're not going to be successful you know because i don't have guys coming you know yeah you know and with because i'm very dominant you know if if i don't see it that way you know i'm saying not saying that not saying that i would not do it but i would put my input into i'm not a type of person that just if i see it some way you see it a certain way if i see it some way then you know i'm not going to express it i'm not that type of person that's just going to be quiet

79:24and just go along i'm gonna express my opinion i'm gonna tell you like no this is how i see as well too that's why my team is so great like they can see it and i can see a whole nother way but we put it in together we kind of make it mix where it can work like all right i'm trying this and i see it i can see i can see one thing as well two in the ring you know and then we just make it work together one of the things is that you don't have any conflict in your team that's you know how giant that is like how big is the fucking distraction when you see fighters that aren't getting along with their coaches aren't getting along with their strength and conditioning trainer or whoever the fuck it is man as soon as you have issues with management you hate your manager i want to get out of my contract like that fucks up so many fighters careers and puts them on the sideline

80:07for a long time andre ward i know so many put him on the sideline for a while my brother malik scott you know it's my closest one of my that's he was a great fighter but because of management and stuff like that he wasted so many years yeah it's very common it's very common so that's the beautiful thing about your arrangement you seem to have everything in order right most definitely you know i got a great team man you know uh mark jay you know i got cuz you know i got i got a great team of guys and um they they understand you know jay never been in a situation like this you know my long time trainer i'm the first to come out of alabama to do certain things that i've done so we both have learned on the way you know especially been in the spotlight where you got mark breeland you know two-time welterweight champion olympic 84 olympic gold medalist he talks soft it's amazing

81:00how i can hear him though like yeah well it's amazing too that you got mark because mark when he was a welterweight was a phenomenal knockout artist and similar to you and he was long and tall and mark's always been like a very like even keeled intelligent guy you know so it's really interesting to see him make that transition to a trainer and with you i i think that's like a perfect fit yeah most definitely most definitely when you can understand him you know he talks so soft but you know i've been with him for a very long time so i could like i could he can be a thousand people in the audience i could i can move your head i remember back in the day man when when mark was in the olympics man yeah i remember watching him fight on abc wide world of sports i remember when he fought marlon starling i remember those days yeah you know he's a great guy you know one thing

81:51about it is just everybody got positive energy you know that's that's big for me it's just like you said like when you get management and stuff you hate you hate them or you know don't want to work with them you know it'd be it'd bring a voice some type of avoidance in the in the group like when you you don't want to do so you don't like you like you love going to train but because of this certain person you don't want to be there you know it just knock your energy level down like i said i've never dealt with it but i've had friends that have dealt with it before i've had my brother he dealt with it before you know and so i i've seen it you know firsthand you don't have to go to court and right can't do nothing you on the shelf because of this is like i've seen it over and over and over again the court parts the crazies oh my goodness lawsuits yes trying to figure out how you get out

82:40of your promotional contract oh you know sidelines a lot of guys yeah there's a lot of distraction it'll make you not want to train because you'll feel like your career's not going nowhere well it also stagnates guys because that becomes their primary focus instead of just getting better and preparing for the next challenge you're always thinking about this legal issue you're going through exactly yeah you know yeah no you're fortunate in that regard you know most definitely no matter what people you know look up on them as because a lot of people like well you need another trainer is it but the thing about it you got to look at it we didn't made it thus far yeah no it's what other what other guy in the sport is is knocking every guy out you know yeah it's definitely making them hit hit the canvas like me you know 40 over 39 ko that's just not i know i know i got power but it still it

83:28still takes more than that you know i mean just you still got to be able to throw the jab and set it up to throw the right hand and throw the hook behind that and stuff like that i got great trainers especially in mark you know he's a great trainer he teaches me his ways to throw the jab in different ways you know although when i get in there and i i i look at it and i take my own judgment but i also listen to him as well too and at this point in time you know it's gonna be it's gonna be a lot of more you know listening like i see certain things because one thing i never want to do is if i hear you i see i hear what you're saying but it's not right there at that moment in time and then i start taking what you see and then i wouldn't be get hit in the head or get knocked out now i just never want to say well i'll listen to you when you you got me put on the ground right still listening to myself

84:21and getting put on the ground you know i mean um but you know i love my guys i love my guys and um i can't wait for this i can't wait for the for to get back in the gym it's gonna be a new a new me i can't wait to watch the rematch man listen it was a phenomenal fight and uh i really appreciate you coming in here i'm a big fan i was a big fan before that fight and i think the world's a big fan now so uh best of luck to you sir thank you thank you so much brother thank you so much peace deontay wilder ladies and gentlemen the bronze bomber you