Natasha Leggero & Moshe Kasher

00:05yes yeah theha put your phone away I'm trying to rwe it you're trying but the struggle I wasn't was hard shit's not coming up there it goes this interface it's very hard it's very hard um are you guys worried that by calling your tour endless honeymoon you might put the Jinx on it sort of like how Rob and black China and doing reality show a jinx on what our marriage or the tour no man we can pivot we can pivot into the endless divorce tour very quickly ah right because you guys would be friends even if you even if you hit the Rocks strictly homies tour well the way we thought of it is when we were in Newport Rhode Island we learned about this Rich couple who went on a 10year honeymoon and then they came back with four kids and I just thought that sounded so romantic to be so rich that you just like went away for a decade yeah you have kids on the Fly you

00:58go away uh newly wed you come back grandparents that's super bold too like they don't even know their doctor they're in Sweden and I mean they're rich those people were so rich man do you know about the Newport that the the seat of wealth that was Newport Rhode Island oh yeah I used to do a lot of gigs in Rhode Island there's these insane Mansions there the in the this is the the GU age in like 1900 basically 90% of the wealth in America was in Rhode Island and then everyone else was living like you know in squalor because they they hadn't in established personal income tax yet it was like the years right before personal income tax had been established in this country so people had like 35 indoor servants 55 outdoor servants like you could people like would come from Australia and boats and you would just make them your it was like slavery but this is the show at the

01:49endless honey tour we do an extended lecture on personal income tax in the history and slavery no my show another period is based on that that's how we know about it but yeah they were like these people it was the carnegies and the Rockefellers and these like seed of power like Illuminati old you know like Carnegie had a billion dollars a hundred years ago like these people were they were just but now we've come full circle and people have figured out how to legally steal money and not pay income tax so but not that many I mean the difference shocking but don't like the romneys of the world don't they know how to not pay or like Romney what are you talking about well like the like politicians don't they kind of know how to you you're talking about she's talking about big old corporate old ol Archy billionaire people that figured out any super rich people are going to

02:34try really hard to hold on to their money and pay as little taxes as possible and form llc's and corporations and all kind of jazz but it is funny The Comedians are like mostly super liberal right and they're all like man we got Bernie and we got to like pay these high tax rates and anyway I'm Incorporated and my llc's name is just like you're doing a corporate fiction too it's a tax shelter for for entertainers but here's the problem like where's the money going like I'd be willing to give away more money in tax dollars if I knew that it was a rock solid establishment they really knew what to do and if you could take like little fill little bubbles like oh I'd like most of my money to go to education nothing to this nothing to that oh that'd be amazing it would be but the country be yeah the roads would fall apart quickly oh everything would fall apart you know cops would be

03:21out of business well no because half of the country at least would be like all my money to the cops all my money to defense I would love to see I would love to I don't I wouldn't love to do it because I just don't think that that amount of power should be in people's hands without a lot of research first you know I think that's big part of the problem even running for president and voting for president you don't have to have any research done before you choose a candidate you just like them and also you don't have to have done any research to be the President also there's like no choice you're like okay I guess I'm a Hillary person yeah yeah you could become a Hillary person just because you didn't want a reality show with contestant or whatever the he was but that's the crazy thing about and I I do think I think we were talking about this last time I do think Trump in in if he's

04:06doing anything good for American society he's pointing out how ridiculous and arbitrary the worship of the American president is oh yeah if you people are going that's not presidential well presidential means that you look dignified while you bomb a village in Yemen like so we should just destroy presidential as an idea gor vadal said that he called it the uniquely American relig of President worship president worship yeah that is really I mean it's really just a new version of Kings you know we that's so funny that our whole Foundation mythology is based on the rejection of the king and we immediately established King kingship which is what they did in in Christianity I think of Christianity this way like it's based in this judaic religion that says uh let's get rid of the idea of a man that you worship or a figure or a a God that you bow in front of there's one right in

04:57front of us right let's get rid of a that you bow down in front of and the next religion was like let worship a human being like it's so that is so in us well it's alpha male chimpanzee stuff we we always try to look to the number one the the one that knows the most the oldest with the most scars it's gone through the most battle as the most wisdom lead us because you want to know which snakes are poisonous and what plants you can eat and what's going to kill you right and and and everybody worships the past that's what's so funny to me about American it's the day after July and everybody talks about the founding fathers he like those were dudes who had the education of the they were brilliant people in the 1800s and 1700s but I'm not like trying to I'm not trying to go to a doctor from the founding father's days or like yeah people probably stunk people probably did stink probably stank

05:50probably just what what people smelled like back then like if you caught a gal after a bath you psyched but even a bath a bath is let's be honest about what a bath is it's and vagina soup yeah you're you're sitting in a a big teapot but you don't put your dick or balls in there it's just the men put their in women put their vaginas in but men they they hold up their their dicks and balls so they don't doesn't concern me what a guy smells like but what a girl smells like concerns me and but maybe it wouldn't have back then maybe it wouldn't have yeah maybe just your standards change if you're horny enough you don't care that is true I'll never forget this past I do what always but you're an incredibly horny person classically horny my wife let me just say guys my wife is so horny I love that word I like how you did it in a sort of a gay floppy way why wasn't it

06:45funny that like being M mobile is gay is gay if you just start going like this people go oh that's gay as there's a there's a story about Tom Cruz have you heard this that he came to I can't remember who some comedy person who's like a normal human being right like but famous but not like Tom Cruz famous so Tom Cruz like connected with that person I can't it make it a better story if I remember who it was but it was somebody at like at like your level or like or or like a Mark duplas or you know what I'm saying like and I don't know who Mark dupass is well he's a guy at your level no uh no he's you know who he is dup the dup knows who everybody is I don't know who the depos brothers are they're and they're they made the show togetherness on HBO my point isn't about the dupas brothers is like they were just like semi not like in what did Tom Cruz say so Tom Cruz got himself she's so horny

07:37she wants to get to the so she he got invited to a Super Bowl party at this this person's house right like imagine if Tom Cruz come to your house for the super Super Bowl part Super Bowl party he was like asking Tom Cruz and he says yes you're like honey he said yes what do we do right and imagine being Tom Cruz be like I think I will be among the humans today so Tom Cruz apparently shows with a brand new like clearly fresh football that his assistant like you know he's like tossing like a literal brand new football in the air and they're all talking about marriage at some point in the day and he goes you know what the best part of being married is though right your wife am I right you just your wife and everybody's like like felt like tumble weeds roll through the part he's sort of like a robot huh like an alien visiting us he must be amazing to hang out with I

08:26would love to hang out with him your wife right oo I mean when you're that famous your work ethic it's like you just devote everything to that I think because like I have my my agents were like they know that the agents who are Tom Cruz agents they said Tom Cruz always gets back within an hour when we send a script cuz I'll like keep a script for like three weeks and then by the time I read it the part's been cast he reads it in an hour they said Tom Cruz will read a script in an hour and get back to them and either like it or not like it like he's just like on the ball he's he's like he's trying to win yeah he's won and it's an inhuman Instinct cuz our human instinct is to just atrophy in a way I mean you have to kind of fight it but easy to be lazy and to procrastinate it's definitely easy to be lazy but it's not if you're going to be Tom Cruz you really have to be on the

09:16ball there's no other way it doesn't just he doesn't J but that's not just what's going on there's this weird alien sort of behavior patterns that we don't recognize as being normal like when he jumped up on Oprah's couch it's like I'm in love and love him in love and every's like what the is going on here it's like a person no it's like a person who doesn't understand French but you're speaking French to a French person you're saying all the right words but you're like what the is wrong with this guy it seems like every choice he makes outside of acting is based on what he's assuming normal human beings think is the normal behavior so goes o love is when you jump on a couch and go I love her which is informed by movies really right like that's more movie like right that's like John cusac and say anything like oh that's what love looks like it's not you know or telling a bunch of the

10:03fellas you know oh we're going to have sex talk with the fellas oh so I like to my wife huh the friction of her vagina makes me just splooge huh right guys and everybody's like back everyone's like oh we're sick of our wife never I I just don't relate to that joke that you made a sweet so sweet yeah what a strange guy he might be one of the strangest guys of all time I wish he would just like come clean like one day just just sit down and just be like give him some ecstasy and have him just talk about who he is like I don't even know who the I am you I've been in Scientology for so long like 13 guys last year 13 I'm always worried they're going to tell I'm always worried they're going to tell well they he did Chris Hardwick's podcast right he did he did a one-on-one interview he did I haven't listened to that recently you I wish you get could get him on here cuz you you you get a

10:58you get in but I don't think you could Pierce that impenetrable layer I think he would be fake with you too but even even if he's fake you find out if he's fake if you find some stuff well this you still Pierce he was telling Chris like I love movies you know I'm passionate about movies and Chris goes oh yeah like what are some of your favorite movies this is how politically like constructed he is he goes yeah just movies all movies all movies like he could he was such a political being he couldn't even but all movies are the same he the no difference biggest movies star couldn't pick three movies that have inspired him because he didn't want to pick like you know a Spielberg a brookheimer and a blah blah blah because then he piss off Copa Andi you know I mean it's all construct God I want to meet him yeah I can't believe he did Chris's that's so cool you should have

11:45him on the show you could get him I think I got I got faith you could get him I've had this guy on Ron misovich who's David mich's dad oh wow who's Scientology and I had Leah Remy on you had Le Remy on yeah and we talked for 3 hours about how crazy her life in Scientology was and you're a classic SP there's no way you're getting Tom I'm suppressive person although I'm not just I'm just misunderstood I got to say though the the more I learn about the Catholic faith and all these like kid keep coming out the more I'm like that's the worst one did you see the new one Keepers no no the new um australi arrests there's Australian 8,000 cases of child molesting that they just uncovered I mean let's just shut down that religion was it Catholic child 8000 no no I'm not doing a bit but all 8,000 of it was connected to the church Jamie will find it it was just some I

12:36mean I didn't even read it cuz I looked at the headline and it first thought was duh and second thought was uh I just can't I just I mean it's so much worse than like making someone believe they can get acting work like whatever Scientology does like the Catholic religion is like they're little girls and boys and like permanently ruining their lives making them have like terrible flashbacks making them have like wide chunks of memory that they just don't remember then they do remember and it's like it's just the worst thing you can do and having like sexual problem I'm not Catholic I'm Jewish now well you know the Pope the the last Pope ratzinger that guy one of the things that they one of the reasons why he had to step down was because it found they found out that he was one of the guys that used to move people around C he was one of the guys when someone

13:24get caught molesting children he would move into a new new Precinct or where the they would call it that's what takes your breath away we live actually right next to a rehabilitation a former rehabilitation center for Wayward priests on our street in LA and I was like oh I always thought oh Wayward priests like I wonder what that means and then after we saw that movie Spotlight we looked it up and that's exactly where they were housing PE one it was one of the places they were housing the molesters botl makes this really interesting point about the church which is that the commonly held sort of folk belief about the Catholic church is that when you take away someone's ability to have sex you will you will concentrate their sex drive and pervert it and you'll become a child molester and what Spotlight the movie sort of point that it makes is it's the the other way around is that that

14:10basically when you're a child molester you go to the church because you know they'll they'll give you a Haven they they I don't think that's true though like it is hard to become a priest you have to like study scripture for I mean how long is sem easy to molest a child you got to groom him you got to hang out you know what I mean but Ser I don't know how true that is so ratzinger moved a guy that went on to molest a 100 deaf kids i' yeah I saw kids cuz they couldn't talk about it there would be they can sign yeah but no one's going to listen to them it's not like they can just start talking you know what I mean it's like it's a way just I mean he was working with de kids like deaf orphans well it's just it's not that nobody would listen to a deaf person it's that it I this is how scams work one step remove exactly it's one more what you want little easier what you want as a

14:55predator is is the the most vulnerable person that you can like in the documentary Keepers it wasn't until this girl came to the priest and said I actually have been molested he was like oh you have have you and then he started molesting her but he waited for her to come into it was in confession found found that she was weak and so she was weak and then that's who we picked so it's like well I remember these Nigerian speaking that's psychotic it's insane yeah and but that's what they want they that's the the CH molester loves the we the weak and vulnerable cuz if they go to a strong confident child who they know will just be like if you touch me I'll tell my dad and he'll kill you that's why I wasn't molested they like that girl's got a big mouth also you do not touch her also though I've seen your your baby pictures you weren't a hot kid I was and I was always trying to yeah is

15:45it always but it's very much always boys right it's very rarely the keepers oh yeah yeah oh God it's girls and boys it's like who I've only seen documentaries on boys but the boys thing is weird but I I kind of I do believe there's a math to like suppressing someone's sexuality and then it's just going to come out in these other ways well I think that also monsters are orientation is spread equally across monsters Orient yeah I think that I think I don't even know are you even gay if you're a child molester that likes little boys is that even gay that seems like a third thing like just you're you're you're not even in a sexual Zone anymore now you're in a pathology Zone but since the cases are so there's just so many cases like maybe we should just let pre get married something needs to change well they used to be able to but they were rock stars the problem was

16:34back in the days like in the the during the Lutheran days when Martin Luther was around priests controlled everything I mean they everybody's wives they they the pop the pope had wives and children popes had wives they had children they had money they had armies the the the Roman Catholic pope controlled armies you know like they controlled troops like it was a totally different scene and then somewhere along the line there were so many women they were like hey you here's a new rule if you're going to be a priest you can't any chicks and then just the whole thing went hey is anybody know why that happened why the change over happened cuz they were rock stars cuz they were banging everybody no I'm saying why they made them not Ro because it was they were too irresponsible this is what I've read what I've read is that there were there was a real concern

17:19amongst people that were you know under the tutelage of these priests that these guys were out of control they were just banging everybody find out what was the reason that's why made them not able that's so I wonder what year do you think that is it wasn't that long ago I think it was like a thousand years ago it might have been less that's so interesting I think it was less than a thousand years ago because I know that during the genas Khan era the pope still had armies and I think still I think they were still allowed to be married and have children oh and I bet they were using their religious status to abuse their power and probably well probably women would like fall for them too like there was no like think about it if there's no musicians there's no comedians there's no actors who are the hoes going to go to the hoes are going to go straight to the priest they go the

18:08jesters though they had Comics back then but it was a do with like a floppy hat yeah but they were like cruise ship Comics like they couldn't get out of line at all they got killed they were still rock stars they were just like had white hair and what's the deal with the latrine that you have to in what is the deal with Cornish game hen the white hair play the piano that was later that was that was like oh saying this is okay this is like a dude plucking a loot I would like to find out yeah probably right a harp I want to like have a timeline there is this idea that the guy the itinerant uh singer that would come to town and like pluck the loot and tell like the tale was always everybody everywhere he went through town got to be who who we all came from sure it was like Robert Plant we came from the jesters they that's Rockstar versus comedian right we were the people

18:52who would like come in on a wagon like juggling balls of manure you know like the King has the ears of an ass would like hit you on the head with a bagette comedians do you think that you guys have like genetic ancestry to former comedians um I believe in that more than mosha does I don't believe I just feel like I have a blood memory of like like for example I do think there are people in comedy who are doing it because that's where like the energy is right now and they're just like trying to like make money and right actors yeah or whoever I think it's moved beyond that it's like now it's like everybody that you would have been a DJ when I was like 17 is now a comedian right there is a lot of that cool does that bother you guys well what I was going to I don't really care I mean I think you just have to like f yourself doesn't bother me I think it's cool because when you go big

19:38then the 10% of geniuses that wouldn't have started if it wasn't cool will start and then the 90% of people that were going to be garbage what do they they don't matter damn 9010 huh uh probably less probably 991 no genius a person that starts comedy that to becoming like a forget genius person starts comedy does a set at an open mic to becomes like one of the like great comedians like you know even in the top 10% of comedians that's that's that's got to be 1% that's the point that but the problem with it is like you say once they start because the 99.9% that start never even make it that's part of it yeah but like it's like the one% that do the 0.1% that actually become professional comedians like how many people out of your group of open micers that used to hang with how many are still doing stand up this is a bad ratio because how many of them have a TV show all of them things have

20:36changed like it's easier to be famous now so your ratios are a little off I remember when I mikers well yeah no the the the numbers are very are Stark I I remember when I first started like I would have I would have let a man me 50 times to get like a Montreal spot and now it's like young yeah 50 times I've thought about it a lot and they would they would rub my back very gently and about a big man like Alonzo Bowden okay he could do 25 times dude I looked at Alonzo bowden's fingers once and I was like there are men with dicks smaller than your finger oh for sure it's crazy see them online I it's dick smaller than your finger yeah oh well that's rough if that's true it's true anyway Alonzo if you're listening every time I look at your hands all I think of is Dicks wow small dicks interesting but my point was oh is that I would have done anything for a H spot

21:29or or or a spot on on on the tonight's show and now there's young Comics who like are like n i i I'm not really trying to like be a second lead on a show right now I'm really waiting around for my vehicle things have changed I dated a girl that was like that she was like I don't want to do TV I'm holding out for film because I was on a television show at the time and she was uh it's like saying that she didn't want to do TV it's like it was beneath her oh and you're were doing TV at the time I new radio H yeah yeah I took an acting class I'm a fan of that show I took an acting class with Paris Hilton and she and the teacher was like who wants to do TV and everyone raised their hand except her and he was like who wants to do just movies in Paris H and RAC around of course she wants to be legit that's so funny that was the thing in the 90s yeah I guess do you know that Paris Hilton is

22:16one of the top highest paid DJs in the world she can't have good taste in music be a DJ she's not a DJ she also has like 20 perfumes Comics that suck should go into DJing it seems like it's an open mark it seems like you just dominate if you have half a sense of entertainment this that guy who's got a billboard on Sunset MO is like he is like DJing at a swimming pool in Las Vegas it was a huge famous celebrity DJ you know how in La you'll always know what's happening in Vegas like Paul Harris or one of those guys and it was literally you look down and it's like Vegas Swim Club it's like he's DJing a pool but those pools will have 15,000 people stuffed into the area going crazy part I mean if I was a horny dude that's where I would hang out what about horny girl she's I would not hang out there she's on her way she's going we're stopping there on the honeymoon

23:04tour wear a Nixon mask and just go crazy a Nixon mask with like a beautiful naked woman body yes with a Nixon mask on I heard that they recently this could be started making more money on their nightclubs than on the than on the casinos that's got to be true um it may be I don't know I don't know what the numbers are but I imagine they make a lot of money on the casinos well because there's people like what's up I just heard John Taffer the guy that does Bar Rescue talking about it on another interview he said uh they'll go in on Friday night and make about 500,000 bucks for their Club show and then wake up the next morning and do the pool at noon for 150 and no no you're talking about the actual performers we're talking about the club itself we're talking about the casino that the casino makes but imagine that if the DJ makes $650,000 for a weekend you got to

23:56multiply that by what 20 100% well then they have the odd person like I am on that show dice about Andrew Dice Clay have you ever had him do the show oh many dice so as you know I mean I didn't know that this was a real thing but in the show the whole premise is that he's paying off his gambling debt to the casino cuz it's like $800,000 and it's the only way he can pay it back but that's a true story yeah he was in debt like he would lose $800,000 in one night so as long as they have people like that they must be making a lot of money right yeah there's always going to be people always like the old lady like putting in nickels but then there's also like dice but you also have to think like how much money does it cost to run a casino the overhead is insane right it's also they also exist in this odd like vend diagram of like a legal business and an oldw

24:44world like criminal Enterprise and I don't mean that in a the like don't they have like Indian like why is it even legal for them for them to let someone rack up an $800,000 debt like a normal business business would say Sir you're $20 over your limit so we're going to they just know like he's got credit he's dice he's going to make money he's dice he's going to make money he uh gambled away the deed to his house at the Riviera and like they just lost my my Nana's wedding ring and then someone told me when I was at I was at Foxwoods and they cuz I was performing and they said that at moohan Sun they're like Yeah it's gotten really bad at moohan sun when you gamble away your car they won't even give you a ride home but we at Foxwood are giving people ride home like it's happening like people are just like they run out of money and they're like okay I can win it all back if I

25:35just sell the car right and it's like and the car's gone yeah here's what's interesting though if you win they ban you like my friend Dana how is that lose Dana White Dana White is a notorious gambler but he wins millions of dollars sometimes he's won I think he said he lost as much as $ million and he's won as much as 7 million in a night holy has he gotten banned from plac he couldn't really yes he's a celebrity that's not only does he get banned but he gets banned then he pulls the UFC out of them like they used to do UFC at the Palms and he killed the palms and the Palms banned him so he's like you I'll we're going to move to the Hard Rock or wherever the hell they move to next but yeah they they've banned him from a bunch of casinos because he's really good at Blackjack wow can you what Stakes is he what what's the minimum bet for the Dana White Blackjack

26:22wish I knew that sounds crazy how is that legal to ban someone once they win at the thing you're saying I'm saying casinos are not fully legal they're like in this weird area they reserve the right to ban you if you kick their ass which is crazy can they say you're card counting or something you're not card counting I mean even if you are it doesn't matter it's legal I mean you can do whatever the you want I think I think it's as long as it's on your head if you're not using a calculator or something it's technically within the rules of the game cuz your your job is to sit down and I guess C card count but Blackjack mean though I mean you're supposed to not know like if say if you have knowledge you're supposed to ignore it right if you know how to cards that's so stupid it's like a girl going to a bar and watching a guy roofy or drink oh can't pay attention to

27:03that it's not the rules like you know what the rules are right the rules are like if you know how many decks they're using and you know what you when to hit when not to hit just play it smart and count and think and calculate I like that also what drives why does Dana White was a reach right why does Dana the ruy thing we all accepted it it's your house we were like ah Joe you got that was like hm it's probably not good uh why why does Dana White gamble or or who's the the famous basketball player that like oh Charles Barkley what drives those people they're so rich why drills what also people that been hitting the head a lot Dan's been hitting the head a lot um notoriously impulsive and notoriously susceptible to addiction whether it's gambling addiction alcohol addiction yeah yeah it's a big part of CTE with chronic traumatic and sephy which you see think

27:58said it right that's uh brain damage from getting hit in the head a big part of it is he is he a fighter or something he was did a lot of boxing when he was young he been has Dome rattled a g times got that Dome rattled you're not supposed to get punched in the head ever right you're definitely not supposed to get punched in the head multiple times a day for years what about like you train right I don't do any kickboxing sparring any though no because of that yeah and even in Jiu-Jitsu you like slam into someone's knee accidentally or a head you get your head bonked your Dome W but it's not that common but when I was kickboxing boy I got hit in the head a lot to the point where I just like sometimes I think about some of the decisions I've made I'm like what's going on in there like what's what screws are loose even with headgear you're saying you're still it's worse head Gear's

28:43worse here it actually makes an an artificial lever like say if your head is this large it means if you clip it here it's got more of a fulcrum effect whereas if your head is smaller and Compact and you just take it here so Richard Nixon The Mask would be bad cuz he had a big old chin knock him knock how thick the rubber is in The Mask but the the idea is not necessarily just the initial impact it's how much your head moves like how much like the stronger your neck is the less likely you are to get brain damage so these guys do a lot of neck exercises just inter just to keep their head stable when it gets hit the idea is like the more your head moves the more your brain's going to swish around inside your Dome and and break off the connective tissue that's also part of the problem is connective tissue this like really soft almost like cotton candy like tissue that connects

29:30your brain to the skull that stuff gets ripped up would you rather be a NFL whatever the guy that linebacker is that what it is sure or a like long-term prize fighter long-term prize fighter for sure long-term prize Fighters can get through it like there's guys like Bernard Hopkins that you know fought into his 50s who speaks well you know and there's see the problem is even guys that speak well there's the weird that they do the impulsive stuff there's they're like if you talk to people that are CTE experts they tell you some really disturbing things about brain damage about how it manifests itself and the weird things that men find themselves doing they don't even know why they're doing it they're just doing it and like real impulsive behavior and just stomping on the gas on the highway and just like weird gambling stuff and sex stuff and Drug stuff and a lot of it

30:20is connected to CTE what if you looked over and Natasha was crying looking at me when I see you do all of those watching is it MMA like where they're like doing 69 and just writhing how are they doing it they're ring you're like yeah it's like they're just like like one's got the head in the in his dick and then the other one's got his head in his dick and they just kind of like ridee back and forth know Joe is like one of the main commentator for I still don't understand that's what you say right he's got oh got he's got his head in his dick and they're writhing F sometimes I have said things along those lines I see I listen it's an odd sport you have to understand from woman who's like not into sports and then sees that it's it's I it's like I don't understand it she comes in and she says always did derisively did your team win I'm like there not there are no teams

31:11you know there are purpose I mean I'm just and they're Barefoot like they may have been Fu that's the video game that's the the video game yeah the video game lets you get a little gayer than the actual video game you actually that's a good one you can actually a guy those are women though they that's a great game could be no that looks like a dude that's a that's a dude caught in a triangle so it's people who don't they don't care about brain damage though like this sport you get this sport brain why is that funny like don't you think that's important they don't care about the cartilage that connects their head to their it's not cartilage it's or connective tissue connective tissue it's not that it's it's not that they don't care it's just that this is something that they started doing when they were young they got really good at it and they see it as a path to make a career

32:01and they like Thrills they like doing things dangerous and excitement and exciting some of them just accept the risks and some of them say I would rather live a dangerous life that's exciting than a really boring life I can respect that sitting on the couch atrophying I can respect that I mean I of course this is funny though this is like this is like going to like on dein's podcast and being like I don't know about this art stuff I don't know about this I Joe can take it I no I think you're right you're right my perspective is when I see it but I now now you put it like that too it's like what what's the alternative get a get a job in a factory or get a job we all die I mean this is temporary this is not going to last right so for them it's like how am I going to use my meat vehicle yeah and am I going to use it for fun and just go crazy and I mean that's uh that's the thought process

32:50behind it is like yep I know I'm doing damage to it and you know I know a lot of guys that I've known when they were in their Prime where they were just killing everybody and now they are broken that's CRA they broken like they I know guys who can't even brush their teeth really their shoulders are so shot they have to like brush their teeth left-handed and they suck at it and they got to move their head C and how old are they in their 30s what yeah there is something about the human animal that wants it's an interesting facet of humanity that wants to achieve greatness for some reason I was the glory of winning in that too is also directly related to the danger of doing it mhm it's like there's something dangerous about it that makes it super exciting if you pull it off it's winning a fight is it's a crazy feeling it's even more you're making all these other

33:39people happy too cuz people have like voted on you know or vot how do you do it you vote on them you root for you whatever like you bet on them but people I mean it's like you're it's so many PE just I've noticed so many people get their mood is changed if their team wins so it's like that's the problem with MMA though I I when Chuck Liddell started losing is when I I realized like MMA is not a good sport for like having to have your guy win cuz eventually your guy will always lose oh really always because they'll get older that's like just the inevitable reality as opposed to a team that slaps people out exactly the team Dynamic so your team can always be a winner but if you root for one fighter that fighter will get old and the young people will come in and by old it's like 38 yeah no that's way old oh really 38 is way old so like 32 or something especially now with drug testing

34:28it used to be back in the day that when you would get tested you would it was really like they would say it's like an intelligence test it's more than a drug test like just don't take anything the remaining few days before your test and they're just testing your pee for like really obvious stuff but now it's super comprehensive and they use usada the US anti-doping Association and they they crawl up your ass with a microscope they wake you up checking for what do people watch you yes in the look at your dick because guys have used rubber dicks yeah I I went to rehab when I was a kid so I know I knew all the tricks the whizzinators I or you'd get your homie to piss into a bag and you'd have the bag in your pocket but what kind of drugs are MMA people doing steroid steroids oh right it's not like you're so hilarious you know nothing about it like that doesn't even

35:17make sense why test them for drugs isn't that ilal is it illegal so they're all doing why would they do it if it's illegal Joe I got to say your impression of Natasha is spot on I don't even understand okay no what are the rules you're allowed to do illegal drugs or no okay hold on I just thought that people had uh you know standards and that they wouldn't do that but that you're saying they would all do it if they could no not all there is definitely a a core group of Champions who have never thought about taking drugs and still don't the problem with steroids there's a lot that do the problem with steroids also is that when one person starts doing it the person beneath him either will lose or has to be press to do it and so it creates this like I'm sorry if people out there are upset that I'm not a sports fan um don't think about them let's just talk

36:07yourself believe that's what's you do you back don't sweat it you do I don't I mean I'm just like not you think sports are holding us back as humans is that what you mean I think she's doing a bit what's elevating us um if that's holding us back what's elevating us I just think making sports like our main thing I I hate when sports are on in any sort of public establishment I think it's aesthetically oh God okay I won't I won't nothing wrong with it go ahead be yourself it's okay you don't like when you see Sports in an establishment I find it depressing depressing what what about Law and Order when you watch that that's not that's like one notch down but very depressing what about CSI oh I love pull the head off the carpet and the blood sticking to the head it's been dead for hours Natasha I will say is uh is extremely connected to Aesthetics more than any human being I've ever met

36:55in my life I think tennis is a nice AE there you go Aesthetics okay I would I would so that's a sport that's okay I I think like a tennis match yeah I could handle that why is that okay and like honestly cuz I like how they like how they dress what about basketball no I hate those long no I don't like baseball or footb that's I mean by Aesthetics she hates it when there's a dark black people play tennis yeah there a couple of chicks they're really good at it I mean I think thing though it's probably because I grew up and I was always the last to get picked for sports cuz I'm so small so maybe that's why I hate it you really want to go deep when I hug you I'm always we I'm going to break you you you weigh like 80 lbs 105 not that small come on you do not weigh 100 pound you're lying to yourself do you do we yourself in with cloth I mean I'm not like that skinny I'm just small

37:48she weighs 105 while we and it's 100 when we're not I have a 5B dick I mean and I didn't I didn't want to mention that I asked Natasha not to bring it up but it's it needs to be said yeah I've got an Alonzo Bowden uh two Alonzo Bowden I don't know what I'm talking about four Alonzo Bowden I'm just teasing you about the sports no you don't have to tease me I don't like sports I also don't like video games the only thing I watch is fighting I I literally don't watch sport I don't I don't even know the rules like you don't like any sport other than MMA and boxing no I don't watch them I don't I don't even know when they're happening like when someone says oh you see the NBA championship game like oh when was it and they're like it was last night man you didn't watch I'm the same was the thing the only sport I watch is MMA and have watched consistently since I was a

38:29kid is MMA and then boxing very secondarily and then I can't get into kickboxing at all really do you watch Glory why I've seen clips of everything I don't know why I can't I can't get into cuz I like MMA much more than boxing but and You' think I would be more into kickboxing than boxing but I'm not Sports just seems like men exercising that's that's funny but like I just that's I mean I know it's more than that but that's how I see it like if you saw Opera you'd probably be like this just seems like fat people singing or SC I've seen Opera do you like it no um I felt like it was this like Antiquated form of entertainment and I watched I was super duper high when I went to see it cuz I knew I knew I had to see it why you have to see it oh just I had to do a favor so uh when I when I went to watch I was like listen I'm just going to get blaze out of my mind a good Instinct but what's

39:19interesting is I what I really started paying attention to was uh all the people in the audience and there's like this class of people that prob live in like belir and Beverly Hills and want to be seen at the Opera and it's like a big deal to say they're going to the Opera and I was like watching this I was like they can't possibly like this like even if they like it they don't like it that they don't like it like people like the UFC that's true that's true you're right have you 100% it is but he's saying they're all pretending to like it there's a different level to what they like it's not true it's like sophisticated entertainment I mean like we went to the or to the orchestra the symphony recently and mosha hated it I've been I went to the the symphony when I was a kid with my grandma she used to take me and there are some bangers you know bangers yeah you know

40:04like that's like that's a hot Banger you know that he was just in there like doing his thing but we went to see I don't even who was it mer and you read the description of Mer and it's like laminations on death not not discordant and not pleasant to listen to so we're going to go sit down for an hour and a half performance of like something that in its description is like Natasha you didn't like it either did you no and there was like a lot mosha got in a fight with two different elderly people he tried to help this woman there was I was walking in people are on like double crutches it's so old you can't imagine it it's like it's so old and so white it's like unbelievable you can't believe it you know and I was walking in and this old man was uh sitting down he's like 85 and so I told him he started to get up to let me through I go you don't need to get up I

40:53can kind of crawl around you and he goes we're not all as young as you of us are going to die soon and I was like oh I'm trying to like I go I just read the Wikipedia page I go like oh well I guess that's what we're here to listen to right and the GU nothing iced me out and I sit there like bored and the worst and it's got It's the worst kind of symphony merer because it always seems like it's ending it'll be like and you're like cool let's get the out her it's just like but then what about the old lady who yelled at you and she almost fell down the stairs then as we were leaving I was an old man and he was so feeble and and wobbly that I was staring at his body like in my mind you ever have this kind of situation where you're like this this is going to this person's going to fall I can feel it in my bones way before it happened we're like way up on the Rafters in the

41:43steepest possible like it would and I could feel it like this guy's going to fall he's too feeble he's too old to be ascending these stairs and he sure enough does he just starts to like tip over and he goes for it because I was already like looking at him I grabbed him by like the the the the top the collar and the bottom of his jacket and I just like held him ight oh my God and he like just like shoved me off of him gave me a dirty look and stormed off and I was like I just saved your life you old you wanted to go maybe he wanted to go right maybe what a good way to go like I listen to I listen to mer I'm out depressing pretends he slips listen to his wife complaining about her stool I saw more blood in my sto he's like I'm just going to fall you know what my grandma it's glorious I'm at a good steep angle know my grandma said to me no what she said

42:34to me on her deathbed like days before she died she looked at me and she said if there is a God he saves the worst part of your life for the very Endo I was like bye bye Grandma I've been thinking about that cuz I was like going into like an old person's home seems so depressing like I would never want to do that to go away from your your stuff and your house you know like I'm just trying to think what's the best way to go I think it old people by themselves in a home alone when they're dying is super depressing too right yeah yeah I lived in New York when I first moved there I stayed with my grandparents in New Jersey and my grandmother had had an aneurysm they gave her 72 hours to live she lived 12 years wow yeah dude and it was how were those 12 years rough I was only there living with them for a few months I think I lived there for maybe five months 6 months but it was bad it was

43:25bad like my grandfather they had a a nun or a nun a nurse would come over and they would help but this like she would have horrible bed sores she couldn't move she was paralyzed she was completely vegetab no she would talk a little bit her teeth were falling out they all fallen out it was did she want to live at that point no no no but I do think like the two ways the two main ways to die are like to have a deathbed like that seems kind of glamorous cuz then you could like call people to you and give them wisdom and like have last words no but if if you die in an accident then you never get to have any no but the third can't have like those funny Last Words the Third Way what is what is you your bit about your grandma on her deathbed I don't remember oh the third the third way though is to go mad and to your pants and to oh my grandma didn't die like that though

44:12that's just a joke my grandma did my grandma's great fear her entire life was becoming a feeble scile person that was babbling to herself and of course it came true because the only way to avoid that is to have a heart attack or or an accident I feel bad that I say that about my nana it's just a dumb joke you know they have assisted death now in California and 11 people did it on like the first day check please my my 11 people did it in the first day yeah which I absolutely believe in I mean I think God damn it why do we need to have people die of natural causes when they're horribly suffering and their wayed that's a good question right it's like what is suffering is it if you're physically fine you have a 70 beats per minute resting heart rate you have no cancer but you just 5 dick every day 5B dick every day hating life yeah it's crazy they in Scandinavia

44:59where they've had euthanasia for a long time um they they've started to accept that a person who's suffering from chronic depression can opt out and take assisted suicide as a means to escape their depression isn't a part of the problem with Pro with chronic depressions like we don't know what they're feeling like if you if like someone if you have a broken arm like okay I broke my arm I kind of get it but if someone says I have chronic depression it's like okay what does it feel like I don't know I don't know what your depression is and and your chronic depression might be different than another person's and another person's like how and how do you know that it can't be turned around with a pill or with exercise and diet and if you did turn it around like I have friends that were suicidal and now they're super happy so it's hard well the problem is the main one of the main tenants of

45:45depression is hopelessness so if you can't right feel at all hopeful how are you ever going to try to get your way out another strange thing about mental illness in my experience and I have a lot of it in my family uh and is that it always look not always but it of except for schizophrenia and stuff looks obviously like that person's sick and can't help it but with depression or alcoholism that kind of thing it always feels like you could act differently if you just tried a little bit harder you could not be doing this you could be less depressed you could go apply for a job you could get up it looks schizophrenia is like a schizophrenia you can see is impossible but it looks to the normal brain like close enough to normal that they could just change circumstance If Only They tried harder and mental illness is maybe the inability to try harder so it's very

46:33seductive to the normal brain to think of mentally ill people as like lazy or not trying to get better yeah I just think it's one of those very odd things to quantify almost impossible like I don't know what you're feeling you know and what is like what's normal for some people you know and like some people are just ecstatic all the time and like what what is normal for them and also anti-depressants are like literally just a chemical experiment with somebody's brain like oh if I tinkle this and do this yeah but I know people who ever since they started taking anti-depressants it's changed their life and their life way better sure have you ever taken either of you ever taken an anti-depressant no someone gave me some Aderall once that's that's similar that I've been on anti I was on anti when I was a kid when I was a like 13 12 old you remember your personality

47:21changing I remember my brain doing things to me that I didn't like physically like I started to see things in the Horizon of my vision I started to uh my I started to feel like less hungry I started to like wait what do see things in the Horizon of your vision oh like actual apparitions not apparitions like uh like sort of like sort of hallucinogenic fractal situations you know I started to see that and I just like I could feel it tinkering with my brain I of course what was happening was I I was getting given uh anti-depressants to combat like being a juvenile delinquent like druggy and so it wasn't Trea wasn't treating a thing that existed so a psychiatrist gave you this yeah I was all up with with psychiatrist psychiatrist will give you that's the real problem right they'll give it to people that don't need it that's what's happening with the opioid

48:08crisis like they'll people just like they'll just give you Oxycontin like it just seems so crazy it is crazy this doctor told me this weekend I was talking to this uh a family member that's a doctor that it takes 8 days of of a regimen of of uh what's the drug in the in the current the there's one drug that all the opiate addicts are getting addicted to it's it's not Oxycontin it's not Oxycontin it's a fentol yeah fentanyl it takes super deadly eight days to get hooked and a and a treatment regimen is something like 12 days so it's like everybody that's given the treatment regimen for regular pain is is having to kick it when they get off and that's why that's why we've got a crisis that's incredible that 8 days in you're hooked it's insane CU everybody who takes if you break your leg or something they give you fentol no I don't know why they give it to you why would they just

48:59give you medical marijuana for a broken leg I don't know for pain it's real simple I mean you're saying it like you haven't thought it through like because they make a lot more money selling you something you can't get anywhere else I'm too naive doctors are isn't that like the first rule of being a doctor we're not going to hurt you we're they have relationships with pharmaceutical companies I mean it's it's a standard thing I don't want to believe that people are like that but there's also a bunch of doctors that are ignorant to the actual positive benefits of pot they have a negative association about pot people don't smoke pot but also to get real like if you have a compound fracture you don't what you need is more than medical marijuana at least at first you don't agree with me oh you would take your bone is your bone sticking out of your leg and you you pop it back in

49:41and what you what would you take yeah once you get the cast on it you're fine it's just you just sit there it sucks when you move but you don't have to take that stuff you don't in medical marijuana supposedly they did a recent test and 93% of people with chronic pain prefer marijuana over opiates God I can my mom has pain and like she's never tried drugs and I just can't get her to try you know like she there's such a stigma like she'd probably try fentol before cuz a doctor a doctor said it was okay than marijuana I wish we could change the we I not a fan of pain pills I hear you I got my knee reconstructed and I didn't take anything I just really yeah I'm like I'm not taking them well you took marijuana though or no I wasn't even smoking pot back then how much did you suffer it's not that bad it's just pain it depends on your tolerance it's the yeah

50:31it's the kind of pain that you just go okay well that's what that feels like okay now I know what that is you know back pain is one of the harder ones everything you do that's a very overrated Pain by the way it's nothing it's like scratch feels like this yeah know I've heard people say it hurt more than anything in their life so you're just tough those people are I know it doesn't it doesn't hurt that it just doesn't hurt that much it really just it just absolutely does not hurt hurt that much there's spots where it's not comfortable like um bones like with elbow bone when they go over the elbow bone and oddly enough like right when they get like close to your chest that's painful but not childbirth it's manageable you just go woo it's like just I think a lot of it is just how you think about the pain of course and you Fester what's the most painful does

51:17anyone know what the most painful thing a human being can experiences what's like the the top threshold it seems to me a compound fracture is as bad as it gets but maybe I'm to it just seems awful burning to death probably hurts broken bones suck and but broken bone a compound fracture just a broken bone and and a horrible laceration oh right I guess that's true I had a broken arm and it wasn't that bad I think burning I think you're right burning is one of the most absolutely painful ones burning and not burning to death I think that's that's rough the recovery process from do you know that when burn victims are in the hospital other burn victims random strangers go to them and talk to them wow I didn't know that my friend Zach Zack craigger who's A from The Whitest Kids you know and he's a successful actor he's on that show wrecked uh he told me he burned

52:05himself at a party in the Caribbean and in the Caribbean people would go visit burn victims from the Caribbean would go visit they're like a community yeah because apparently the pain is so intense and insane that they nice let me say this now before I forget um people who love steo steo did something I don't know what the he did but on his Instagram if you're going to Denver this weekend steo is going to be in Denver he has horrible Burns all over his body and he's looking for some sort of an EMT to take care of him like someone to help him dress his wounds cuz he's still going to do his shows at The Comedy Works what and apparently he's going to he won't tell the story of what happened to him but he put it cuz he wants to tell it on stage but he put uh these images uh would put a video of it up on uh Instagram and his skin is falling off of his arm but he's still

52:57going to do yeah it looks really bad don't do your show dude go but also I want to say to steo if you listen to this there's a new stem Stell therapy that they've created for people that have Burns where they spray um stem cells all over the burn and the healing time is radically reduced as well as the scarring the scarring is radically reduced so he got to look into that they put talapia skin on the burn you heard about this who fish scales on burns apparently one of the much so much more healing than bandages W I don't know why but it like creates this sort of you know skin on skin healing energy apparently there there you go wow doctors trying onox Pro treat burn victims using fish skin that's fascinating um is steo going to be okay that seems yeah he's going to be okay but he's got go to the uh steo Instagram page so you can see it but um the stem

53:48cell treatment is pretty radical like they've shown people with 30° Burns they spray it on them and in a couple of days it's gone wow that's crazy yeah like literally no scar no nothing it just heals that's interesting yeah I mean it's we're we're in a new world uh not this the next one the next one did he take it off oh wait what about that one oh that's wait a minute he took it down that's a video of him getting blood poured on his face oh he took it down whoa that's crazy so he he was asking for people to come and see him um in Denver like all that stuff all over his body all those um like he showed what that looked like click on that cuz it just seems like yeah this is one video that he had okay this he's not going to show anything but the next video he showed what's going on under those bandages and it's horrific oh maybe it got flagged what's what's

54:41the most painful thing you've ever experienced I don't know um I feel like I'm so lucky what about you you you got nothing I mean your shoulder I'm a baby her shoulder popped out in Hawaii and it was that was not even that painful though it was I just don't like getting like blood drawn I felt very weak as a man at that moment she popped out of the ocean and her shoulder was like separated from body surface and I was just like you you did you get it MRI do you know what's going on oh yeah it was like 3 years ago it was just dislocated yeah right but no tearing or anything I apparent it still doesn't feel the same dislocated my shoulder I didn't even know weird yeah CU I could see it physically on her body she does not as much muscle as you but I was looking at her arm going like I don't know what to do about that I don't know what I'm going to do I guess I

55:26could hoist her on my shoulder and walk back to cuz it was like there was it walk I just moved my arm and it came back it just popped back you're supposed to like for some people you supposed to like lay them down and stretch their arm like pull it out and then it'll fall back in the most I know about shoulder dislocations is from um Lethal Weapon oh so slam them up against the wall PO he would do that he throw it in himself but some people just have loose shoulders like I know some girl who like every time she has sex or like one out of five times her shoulder becomes dislocated I'll be honest Jo and Tasha some of the loosest shoulders in the game yeah maybe those girls are just like drama queens they always going like this and they pop their shoulder out just like being hurt while they're I'm getting assaulted it's like assault can you imagine though how bad that would be if

56:09you were a girl and her shoulder got dislocated yeah that would be really bad I'd get her some pads shoulder pads some shoulder some football P strong support yeah I do that anyway just cuz I like a more masculine woman so I like her every bewhere big back something with a helmet yeah just like give her a little TBI traumatic booty injury wow man you guys would be in jail it's so easy to go to jail now yeah we should be in jail just for saying this right you go to jail just for talking married now so we can aren't you glad to not be dating right now oh yeah it seems like a nightmare for everybody I know that is oh yeah seems so scary if you get lucky you find someone that's awesome it's great it's a good time and it's fun and exciting but got in right under the wire well you know I remember that mean like the PC like you know like now it's like if if if a girl wants to she can can

56:56just say that she didn't consent and you'd probably oh I'd make them find forms fill out forms what I mean they're doing that so but you didn't need forms I think you should have a stack of them next to the bed just to let chicks know that this is like really casual like they do that though all so many forms all these big stars do that they make you like Instagram Tom Cruz no like they the be there was a story about Justin Bieber will make you like videotape yourself saying like I'm of sound mind and body and I choose to Justin Bieber you know oh that makes sense whatever because he's lot of skanks allegedly and uh you know they're probably trying to get over on them I I would imagine if you're that wealthy like you have to worry about everything you do all the time I'm sure but there are a lot of guys who are probably trying to take advantage of girls so oh

57:42for sure maybe there's more of that maybe that's on the rise so it's bad for you boys even I bet it's the same as it's always been there's always been creeps and there's always been creeps on both sides this the the thing is that there well there's More Creeps in the man's side let's get I mean there's more like there's more psychos maybe more crazy people that you date but there's more predators that you as a they're more male Predators than there are female predat I'm sure there are female predators and they're psycho men but if we were to really do some number crunching you know yeah I would imagine it's not even I've never had it's 5050 I've never had a a experience that I was actively scared in I've had experience where I was like I'm not spending the night at this girl's house because I don't know if I'd wake up but remember our friend this girl

58:26emailed him weird laugh well I'm just saying too real it is real I remember this one girl I was at her house and I was like oh I this person maybe would kill me in my sleep she was a she was crazy she was I remember she kept um she was like real Hollywood like like Punk trash right when I moved to town you okay with this story and uh she she so okay with it she kept going um she kept uh asking me to put a cigarette out on her nice and I was like I don't think I can do that and I don't think I can do that and but I would like kind of Ash on her wasn't really ready for like full put and then I remember that she was um she was she kept when she she would go down on me and she would kept like horribly like biting me in my genitals and she was like biting my balls I remember and I was like please stop that like please please no and then all of a sudden we kept like making out and then

59:22she looked down and she looked she was like what is that like uh the way you say uh what is that when somebody's got like an STD right you know that like what is this and I looked down and there was a contusion in my nuts like a from her biting you from her bite she like burst a blood vessel and there was like a and then she was like mad about it she would no she called wound and she had done it and not Joe have a little respect my wife's in the room so she's sucking my balls so hard that oh mo remember our friend that the girl emailed him and said just so you know I know we didn't have sex but if we had you didn't have permission and it would have been raped right she goes what the our friend was like our friend was at at Reed College actually where not Reed yes at Reed at Reed not Evergreen but Reed where it's like sort of the center of like the woke sort of PC

60:16campus culture and that's the extreme that's very extreme she called him and said she was drunk and she came on to him and was like his name's Andrew michon he's a he's a oh I shouldn't say that oh I don't know oh maybe I shouldn't say that too late because I just feel like I'm telling hisory he didn't do anything no no he she came on to him let's not say her name oh I don't know who she is but he's a comedian and I just figured he'd want a shout out but at any rate sorry he's a great comedian uh he he definitely avoided at the punch line in San Francisco a 1 at any rate he uh he didn't hook up with her she came on to him and he was like I'm not feeling this no thank you went home went to bed uh gay guy and uh and then she she texted him like a week later was like I just wanted to thank you for not taking me home that night because I was drunk it wouldn't have been consensual

61:02it would have been raped so thank you it's just like why well that's how a lot of people want to like firmly establish that though that if you are an adult and you're drinking and you have sex it's rape well it is hard though because you have to understand being a woman you are so vulnerable like men have more upper body strength we do have a hole and they have a thing that goes into the hole wao you're saying crazy things right now that no one knows no but I'm just saying it's like if you're going drop that kind of knowledge you have to imagine yourself imagine yourself if you had a hole instead and you didn't have those muscles and you were just walking around you know well what is the idea is women are a men are afraid that women are going to laugh at them women are afraid men are going to kill them yeah those are both very different things yeah but

61:46that's a reality is that just like when you say there's like the equal dispensation of predators on each side it's like well no there really aren't right that really is well I said I said there's creeps on both sides necessarily think it was equal no but what I mean is and I'm not trying to I wasn't doing that to like I might have even said that but I I probably was flippant but my point is that that that the world that women walk around in is one where they fear that the worst case scenario is they're going to be kidnapped raped and murdered and our worst case scenario is pro usually is not that yeah well exactly the rap part in particular most of the time it's not that and if it is it's also from a man from a dude yeah I mean I I had an argument with a guy who's a men's rights activist about that he was like actually more men are raped than women I go hey stupid they're

62:29raped by men you you're just you're just reinforcing the argument against men that's like such a dumb argument like they haven't even looked into it theyve like they like it's such a surface thing to say like if you done like the next step like who's raping these kids oh yeah guys probably shouldn't bring it up yeah you probably shouldn't bring it up if you want to support men if like your whole thing is that men are awesome like men are actually the victims we're raped more than women like by what goblins demons are coming in the middle of the night and raping you that's such a good point it's by other men but this guy was saying it like I got you with this fact that I bet you didn't know well because people like to talk in talking points they don't like to I mean a lot you had that experience with the alt-right people on your show what's that just that they they don't think things

63:13through like remember that guy was trying to tell you that the people at the woman's March he's like how did they take off their their work like it was on a Saturday yeah that's right that was we had this guy on on the show that was like the problem it was all these outof work people that just I don't know about this was a talking point in the right about the women's marches or just about protests in general I don't know how these people are able to have such privilege that they can just take work off to go protest it's like first of all there's a history of protests where people strike that's the whole idea but second of all the women's March in particular was on a Saturday who was this guy who was this guy Nam kid named Lucian wintrich no you you were asking me who is yeah who is like a good alt-right person it's reasonable I came to you cuz we were trying to get uh

63:56basically we did the show right and we started with cultural appropriation we ended with the alt-right with meet the alt-right right and so uh we were trying really hard to really explore ideas right and I guess if there's there's one thing I realized in the in the wake of uh we definitely triggered the alt-right with that cultural appropriation thing people were very upset that we even broached the topic without condemning it essentially and I I think there's there's one thing I realized in the wake of all of the show is like there's one position I truly don't respect it's I disagree with you therefore I won't listen to you you yeah that's that's really there's nothing about that that I have any respect for no I completely agree I think I want to know how you came to that conclusion and often times you could find if you I mean especially if you particularly disagree

64:44with something someone says and youve thought your side through and you talk to someone with an open mind you can actually find like the holes in their logic and it'll help you understand maybe you got some holes in your own logic and everyone has their own experiences they're drawing from to help them come up with their way of thinking and I definitely in exploring all those topics found just what you're saying I found like the part of the gun argument that I really fully wrapped my brain and my heart around the the proun the Second Amendment right I mean I I'm still not like a a wildly proun guy but I totally 100% had this understanding of where they were coming from that I never had before that really you know a lot of the condemnation of the left is that they condemn identity politics right really when it comes to Second Amendment stuff uh it and also the truth is that

65:30alt-right too it's also identity politics it's just identity politics in the reverse it's not like leftist identity politics it's more gun owner identity like in other words when you condemn a gun owner you're you the liberal thinker is going oh I'm condemning guns I'm condemning violence and what you don't understand is you're condemning a person what their hearing is you're calling them their identity their the thing that makes them passionate uh illegitimate stupid and based in ignorance and violence and of course a person's going to react and go go yourself I'll never listen to your argument if you start your argument by basically telling them their whole lifestyle is yeah there's a real problem with the the gun ownership argument and one of the big problems is the mass shootings right everybody condemns mass shootings they're horrible they're terrifying and they only happen

66:19with most of the time with people with guns I mean we've had some situations recently in Europe where people driving over people with cars and there's a lot of insane that's going on over there with that and then people have been stabbing people in some places but for the most part it's guns right but my thought on it is always that it's a mental health issue there are more guns in this country than there are people so if you have 300 million guns and every once a year or so one of these things happens and you have this mass shooting this horrible tragedy one of the most constant things is mental illness almost all those people are either on psycho psychoactive medicine either they're on some sort of a antis psychotic or an anti-depressant or they're coming off of it they have a history of psychiatric treatment a history of of illness of mental illness it's 100% it's almost

67:07100% of people that are like severely mentally ill we have horrible standards for mental illness in this country for people just being roaming around the street and a lot of that came from Reagan when Reagan let those people yes when they let those people lose that I mean these people need treatment they need help is it's a lot of them it's a lot of people that are on disassociative they're on all these antis psychotic medication they're up man like they have real issues and then they can get a hold the guns I agree with you but I also think there's a flaw in that logic because the mass shootings didn't start commensurate with the shutting down of the mental health uh facilities in California when did they I they they seem to me to be a more I mean Kent State obviously was the original no Ken state was the the National Guard I'm sorry what was the woman in in the tower in in I'm

67:56s excuse me yeah that that was like the first uh right the first big one but the modern phenomenon of the mass shooting is is a it is a fairly modern one it feels like the last 20 10 20 years right but you know that that guy in the tower was mentally ill like oh I not disagree with you at all that there's that mental illness is a huge part of the pie you're saying the Reagan thing I'm not saying the Reagan thing is 100% the reason for it but it's a big part of why there are so many mentally ill people that were released in that time I mean I can remember when I was a kid cuz my dad was talking about it he was like it's crazy there's like so many more homeless people now so and they're talking to themselves they're all up we just abandon these human beings cuz they're brains aren't working right the the idea was that Reagan shut down all the mental health facilities in California and the

68:39idea was that they would be replaced by community centers where each Community each neighborhood would have like a check-in Center and the check-in centers of course were never built so the people just hit the streets that was California was I thought it was when Reagan was President mean changed the standards National Nation could be wrong right I think it was when he was president I might be wrong I it's all dark and they never made the check-in places they just didn't exist I mean what I what the only thing I was saying though was that it's there's something else happening in America that's like almost feels mystical or spiritual with it when it comes to mass shootings because it's like there are other countries with mentally ill people that have access to guns and maybe it's that we that we have a less a lesser standard of care for our mentalo but C Canada also has people

69:25babbling on the streets although they have limited access to guns there's something else going on it feels like to me and that this is totally anecdotal in just my opinion but it feels like to me there's some thing that we don't understand that it is of course mental illness and it is of course access to guns and there's some third thing that people don't really can't put your finger on which is like why is this happening here why is it happening so much here well it could be related to overpopulation it could be related to the uh sort of established mindset of the American people like why are Canadians so much nicer when they connected to us like you just like if you look at the land mass there's no real line but you go across that culturally yeah they're they're way nicer they're just nicer you know and they're they talk like us they look like us they pronounce a few words

70:12differently and they're way nicer you know and they don't get a lot of mass shootings up there it's super uncommon it's interesting I mean it's based on this I think it's about the connection of America to its guns is based on its myth it's its uh Foundation mythology it's religion in a weird way right the the religion of America the greatest country on Earth well it's based it's a lot of it's based on fear mean it's freedom for sure but a lot of like the Tactical um people like the people that are like really into what happens if somebody breaks in you got to be ready you got to pull that gun out in 2.2 seconds you got to be able to Ting Ting Ting shoot those targets I mean there's people that pra I know people like good friends that practice that all the time and if you break in their house you are cuz they're ready and they're looking for it they want people to break

70:55I know people were asking people please break into my house you I took Natasha to shoot guns in anticipation of this gun episode that we did I hated it so much I can't say I loved it either I well I got there and I thought I'd make a joke cuz you have to pick your little Target so I was like are there any Trump and he was like I I'm nudging her like Natasha shut up we are not in the right area and he's like we got the Hillary's coming in next week oh have real Hillar that you can shoot that seems up I think he was just talking to her for asking the yeah did he talk with the southern a no this is decided to give him a TW and then we get in there and there's like people just like doing magazine rifles and then there's a guy going through saying uh what was he saying like no rapid fire no rapid fire cuz they're just like like just like these like kids it was pretty

71:47crazy like there weren't even dividers in between us oh and then he was telling me how to work the gun and I was like he's like make sure that your thumb doesn't go here okay go ahead and I I was like wait wait where is my thumb not supposed to go can I will you please cuz I know he didn't know Moosa didn't know either oh you got to laugh and point at me I was like you this little little poof over here scared too we did it once no I didn't no I did though we each did one we got like 50 rounds yeah we bought we bought two cuz they you have to buy the ammunition in like a box you can't buy like oh I'll have so we bought two boxes thinking we'd be there for a while the training the training session was literally 2 seconds 30 seconds long put your hand here put okay here's your gun go shoot and people are rapid firing and you're surrounded by other people that got that

72:31same safety briefing right right and uh and there's a celebrity wall one celebrity Shia laof like this is not what you want right this is not what you want to see that's a weird one too right yes that's what I'm saying he might have lied about being there so we no it was a picture of him there so I shot the gun and she shot it and then I shot it again and I'm feeling like I got to get out of here and Natasha's like I got to get out I just think it was a I think every gun advocate or strong gun person we've talked to since said about that particular place like that's not a place to start it's not a cool place it's unsafe and so we just so I think we picked the wrong place at any rate though I'm thinking about these two boxes of ammunition I'm like I can't go to the dude up front cuz he'll think you know I'm like a little you know what I mean I got all this ammo left you

73:18know what I mean so I and then she's like Natasha's like don't be an idiot let's get out of here so I so I walked up to the front and I swear I sold her out immediately I'm just like you know I'm trying I love it here you know this is my home baby how you go black with that that's my you go Southern you go Southern if you want to do an idiot you go black get tough with the guy I'm like I'm like the wife you know what I mean the wife is like let's get out of here you know how women are right you know be Haun I want to stay I want to stay but I can't I got to admit I'm like you know you did say the wife I did the wife is you know I'm all like emotional from having shot a gun like I got to get out of here but really I'm just like you know you know what is you want to you want to shoot all night but the wife now I'm going Italian I the first time I ever shot one the the first

74:08thing I felt when I went into the the area where you put the earplugs on and you stand next to these people and there was these little dividers the place that I went but when you hear the you feel so vulnerable you feel like wao like if that hits you that's a WAP like you are not going to make it I got to ask you guys this before you take off did you just see this Trump thing the CNN thing where they're going after the kid who made the meme I heard it wasn't a kid well this is the thing Jam will explain the whole thing but it was a kid that they went after who uh had made a video or made a meme but apparently the meme came from a video and the video was made by someone else other than this kid and they they're essentially they threatened to dox this kid they they said they res deserve the right to expose him and I heard he's 15 I don't know if that's been 100% proven

75:01I I don't know if it's been 100% disproven but I just heard that that is a lie was a lie the 15-year-old nness of this kid well I don't know if that's the case because he's not actually 15 ORS because now they're talking about a different person who created the original video that was turned into it file the Trump body slamming the CNN oh they're saying that that's fake Trump this is what it is Trump was on the WWE and he did a thing where he slammed a guy to the ground and so they're going to they took that and put a a CNN head over the person's body who Trump slammed to the ground and then Trump tweeted it by the way very offensive very inappropriate very non-presidential pretty funny I mean but that's nothing compared to him talking about that woman having plastic surgery and saying that her face was bleeding badly from a facelift that's just gross like that is like so there's

75:53something wrong with him that's so bene anybody that's not that's not just beneath like the president that's beneath anybody I would talk to there's something deeply wrong with him he's getting worse he's going off he's he's on tilt right now pressure probably getting mentally ill at this point because isn't isn't mental illness like your brain chemistry changing and can you imagine what would by the way when the alt-right came after me for for the show I had this other realization which is even people you don't respect if enough people hate you it it's it's got a effect on your brain and imagine being Donald Trump where H half the world or more is like you all day definely more than half the world it's a imagine number of people America exactly but it's it's way more than half of America now because it's a large number of people in the Republican party that are

76:46criticizing it you know what makes me mad is that we called it the women's March and that no one really gives it respect for what it was because it was the largest protest in the in our history of Our Lives was to an anti basically an anti-trump protest like when that guy was elected and like we should just be talking about that more like that's never happened in our lifetimes or our parents lifetimes there was that big of a protest because someone was being elected and it just kind of gets like pushed to the side I mean I'm glad it's called the woman's March but it's she thinks that basically that we the idea of it was marginalized and the scope of it was marginalized because they called themselves a woman's March maybe I don't know because it's such a huge deal like I mean it was so exciting to be a part of that and you saw those pictures and they weren't just in every

77:30city in America they were in every city in the world that's how opposed we were that didn't happen when you know anyone who in our lifetimes has become we've never seen this kind of a reaction to a president before never but you wanted to talk about the CNN of all yeah but what's crazy is that CNN is becoming a monster to fight a monster right and they're threatening to dox people that are making funny memes all that was was funny I mean nobody really thought that Donald Trump was actually slamming the person that is CNN that doesn't even have a head that has a CNN for a head CNN is suing some reporter from CNN was going after the person they tracked the person down on Reddit who made the memes who gives a who made the memes that's what's crazy by the way the meme itself isn't offensive the meme itself is funny the offensive part if anything is that the president of the United

78:16States thought it was appropriate to retweet it it's more dumb that it is offend it didn't offend me even slightly I saw him that he retweeted I was like huh that's my reaction h listen you are correct in my opinion that the that CNN in particular and the press in general is as filled with warts not as filled with warts but he filled with warts in the same way that the as your 5 pound dick e dude it was the right joke to make Joe that was the right joke to make in the right time I didn't didn't mean it Sor that you're there if you weren't there we would have such a laugh over this we got to sand them off before I see the misses but it's not that it's this this new realm that we're in where these cable networks are struggling so hard to get attention and they're focusing on really crazy like CNN had a bunch of people fired for making up fake stories about Russia and Trump or not

79:14substantiating these stories and making sure they're correct before they released it and put it live and so three people had to resign I think it was three but CNN's not struggling that's what's interesting they are struggling they're down 20% in ratings I thought CNN M MSNBC and some other left leaning thing although I don't really consider CNN left leaning is like at the top of the charts now and what I read and it might be I don't know let's pull this up see if you could find out what I read was that CNN is down 20% since June and that fox is actually up 20% no no no like typed in CNN ratings it says Trump is way off on CNN's ratings being down and said no no I didn't I didn't hear it from Trump I heard it from someone else it was probably paring Trump I mean we're all that's that this there in lies the problem we're all being pumped filled with misinformation from both sides and

80:06each side is so ideologically in their in their Echo chamber that they all accept the left and the right included all accept the information that they're getting as gospel truth that cannot be assailed by the other side's facts and so nobody even knows what the truth is anymore nobody knows what the argument even is people think if they read it it's true oh so Fox News CNN and MSNBC so Trump is responsible for everybody paying attention now driven by surges for the Rachel Mano show last word with Lawrence O'Donnell I have no idea who that is MSNBC is up a whopping 86% in local view total viewers wow in prime time that's amazing do you watch do you watch Rachel matad no she I think she's great I think she's she's a beast she's she's so good incred Tucker Carlson just kidding he's A well-dressed guy with a great haircut and a good vibe well you know what he is though what he is is

80:54like this odd bridge between reasonable people and right-wing Maniacs you think he's a bridge between reasonable people for sure compared to Sean Hannity so much more reasonable than than Hannity he's just a dick though that's the problem with him he's an he's an to the people he interviews his whole thing is that he bombards them with like kind of snide interviewing that they Relentless snide interviewing until they make mistake deserve it like he brings on some Preposterous people just because he knows that they're going to say something stupid that he can MO exactly well there's this idea called nutpicking and Natasha's got to go right I'll take an Uber and you can stay no no well I'm that's totally fine a weird little moment in your relationship no because I'm sorry I had the whole day like just by the hour you know and I I have to be in Hollywood I it's it's it's for I get

81:44it it's something I'm doing like I'm it's a voiceover we could we could bring this home Tom Cruz whoa It's not Tom Cruz a Scientology promo film sorry it's just I have like Partners who are waiting for me and if I don't get there right at 4 wait a minute huh for so boring to explain it's it's an ADR session that I'm hosting with people from my show another period and it's in Hollywood at 4 so I have to go I'm sorry wores I had a great time I had a great time as well I think we learned a lot about each other and here's the important thing is you guys have an awesome tour that's going on when do kick off tell everybody July 19th we will be in New Orleans Louisiana honeymoon tour my dad says the honeymoon tour and then we're going to Atlanta Miami Montreal Boston New York Philadelphia Chicago Milwaukee andap yeah we'll be in Brooklyn m.com natasha.com we'd love to see you but I

82:37do a set he does a set sometimes you know we switch the order and then at the end we both come out and we've been giving people love advice yeah we do live relationship counseling it's been really fun and we've like helped some marriages I feel like I feel like you haven't but do you do you uh why do you feel like we haven't it's a funny thing to say right there okay so 5B dick filled with warts babbe if you did they give them a microphone and they ask questions to you well they come up on stage yeah we basically wow what crazy they have some of them have been one one time we've helped some people in the most minor ways like you know somebody's like the cat likes to sleep on the on the the bed and we go well why don't you once a week put a blanket down let the cat sleep one guy was like well I think we have problems because I wasn't touched uh by my parents at any point until I was like

83:219 years old and we were like uh Che pleas okay we not qualified obviously I would love to stay here and talk all day or at least for another hour listen we can do it another time you could do a solo podcast after we leave for another 45 minutes don't worry about it we'll be fine there's plenty of entertainment out there for these folks oh you want me to stay whatever you want but I got to call it Uber all right we can wrap it up I think you should take whatever you want Joe we'll W up we'll wrap this up we wrap this up natas ladies and gentlemen have you ever had a more Awkward ending to a podcast no it's perfect I love it an awkward wasn't awkward at all she's angry awkward can't wait to hear your conversation in the car you guys should uh you should do like this is going to a good you can tell a lot about a man how he does an impression of women that wasn't awkward you mean

84:10accurate someone a good mimic and then dice always makes him like no he's like can I please you B like he makes them seem like and then other guys always make him seem like gay like oh well know Natasha I'm not making fun of all women I'm just making fun of you you turn into rash generalization oh my God my impr listen to yourself I hate Sports my impression of women goes like this hi I'm Alonzo Bowden ladies and gentlemen my dicks is size of three fingers all right ladies and gentlemen we wrap this up bye thank you guys thank you for having us my pleasure thank you no Joe I have like tension with my producing