Bryan Callen

00:15look at my dick hey huh what happened this is a heterosexual top 40 song and then all a sudden look at my dick who said that what happened I apologize that just popped out no pun intended you you filthy animals he's back from Italy ladies and gentlemen I'm back from the south of France wow man we both went to Europe are very cultured very cultured did you drink wine over there of course I did did you were you did you contact the S marer and and then just let him know how much you know no I didn't need to cuz I was with a very rich friend so we just I just threw a dart at his Sellar and I took out insanely good wines one of those guys oh forget it I was like and I was I was I was saying like this I was like oh I smell nutmeg and pencil cuz that's what I've heard people say did they get mad at you yeah of course they get mad at me and then I took a then I and I I sipped some white

01:08wine I went whoa I feel like I just got hit in the head with by a farmer I love saying dumb like that dude try have you ever been to a wine tasting like like one of those those like parties where they all get around and they all talk about it uhhuh you know what I I heard a Samo say he you trust me on this one I said why cuz I was going to order a white one he goes you it's Unique I said well describe it he goes it's like biting into a wet dog I was like hey that's exactly what I feel like doing every time I see a wet dog he was telling you it's good yeah yeah it's like getting getting biting into a wet dog Fu I mean I like good wine it tastes good I like that but there's a there's a part of me that rejects the the the nonsense so hard that I learn anything well as well it should you should always reject that horeshit but it's it's it's so pretentious of course it's pretentious

02:04like the most pretentious I mean you hear these you hear the way they describe it it it really holds your pallet prisoner it holds your pallet prisoner but here's the good news in a velvet casing in a velvet speaking of velvet casings I was at a restaurant once a very fine restaurant a very fine Italian restaurant and a gentleman walked in with a briefcase with two bottles of wine in velvet in the briefcase I had to resist the chimpanzee urge to leap over the table and smash him in his head with that but here's the thing here's the thing about that here's the thing here's the reason I support him because I'm such a freak for wine you cannot send a $1,000 bottle of wine uh you can't ship it because a lot of times they put it in the hull of a ship and it comes through say the suaz canal it might be yeah it might be 150° in that hle not good and it's below it or above the butt water

02:55line you're in trouble so they fly that wine you can be yeah you fly it suit he just was bringing it to a restaurant it's kind of a dick that's kind of it's kind of a weird move when you bring your own food to a restaurant I agree I mean you're I guess it's a drink but it's not like you bring your own Tomatoes excuse me could you tell the chef to chop these Tomatoes yeah uh parallel with the floor I've never brought my own one it's a little it's it's obnoxious to The Establishment yeah it's weird yeah it is weird and then they have a corkage feed they charge you to open your W yeah $35 that's very reasonable well especially if you're bringing a thousand bottle of wine yeah but I don't understand why one wine I do understand but I don't understand why someone is willing to pay but I do understand it I do cuz you want to be a part of that Club well if

03:43you're and if you're a freak like me and you like wine on that level when you really pay attention it it it for me I actually it's I don't even know how to describe it it's literally an experience right I tell you so my buddy I went to see who's made more money than God and this is why he's worth I don't know all the money you know what I mean he has as much money as Bruce Springsteen almost really and uh probably and uh he uh super rich and he I told you that he said we're going to open this this wine that Robert Parker gave a 100 out of a 100 and called it one of the wines of the century who's Robert Parker Robert Parker is the critic who sets the standard there are a lot of other you know that yeah I know I'm terrible really bothers me I know but you when you see an RP Robert Parker and it say a 93 94 95 you're paying a lot of money God I want to hang with Robert Parker

04:31well he's a guy and I think he's from Maryland and he's an American dude and he's got his taste it doesn't mean he's right it just means he knows wine and he set the standard now there are more people but for the most part when Robert Parker gives your wine a 95 or above there he is looking him oh my God I want to hit him with a brick look at him hey yeah oh my god do you think he says snarky things when you go to dinner with him well he he'll say for example the wine I was drinking he called it a centurion wine one of the wines of the Sentry oh God so don't try to please don't try to buy it because you know you can't find it is he the Tony Hawk of wine connoisseurs yes he is cuz nobody knows anyone that skates other than Tony Hawk that's that's actually that's exactly who he is that's exactly who he is the lands Armstrong of wine yes and there are people who are trying to make

05:18their way and and real critics but for the most part he's still the man how much does that piss people off who who ride bikes who like are really good and no one gives a about them cuz they're not one guy there was Greg leemon for a while remember he was also an American we remember him but no nobody nobody else I think part of it also because he was an American and so dominant and and it's not you know Americans don't watch bike racing I could never stand on the sideline and be like you 100 more miles keep ping 100 more miles keep peddling you know here's a water want an orange I'm not that guy life is too short to watch a bike race it's definitely too short to be watch watching on the sidelines like waiting it's that that's how I feel about marathons but Europeans are so different than we are in that sense Europeans obsess over Formula 1 they obsess over that's different though

06:10Formula 1 is wild it's wild you ever seen those videos they do from inside the cockpit of a Formula 1 car whoa it's crazy but there's some lightning fast decision making going on there but when Senna died if you look at the streets of Brazil for his funeral it was something that you would never see in the United States if if a great race car driver like say a great NASCAR driver you wouldn't see I think it was some crazy number of people that showed up in the streets of Brazil well the Brazilians are insanely nationalistic they they love their country they're very very patriotic so when someone comes along like Senna who dominates something that's traditionally a European dominated sport like Formula 1 and he was a wild man you ever see that documentary on him I didn't there look at that funeral wow look at that and he was uh you know he was the guy who who

06:59could have been a Playboy but he never really messed with girls he was he was he was a a samurai he's dedicated yeah his ability to shave milliseconds you know and just to take crazy chances and cut people off and oh yeah Jesus Christ that Precision but that's a that is something that I don't know anything about it but I'm sure when you follow it and that sort of those those millimeters those differences are what make everything you know when you have a cultivated sense when you know what you're looking at and what looking for it's uh it must be very enjoyable well they have a a deep connection with how much traction there is exactly on those tires like they feel it kicking out like they they they literally say with race car drivers that you have to have an educated ass damn really yeah your ass has to be able to feel when your car is breaking loose like if you were a race

07:51car driver and you had a numb ass you'd probably be wow like if you had like sciatica or something your ass went numb which I would imagine it would be a real problem with someone who sits down all the time like truck drivers right they get sciatic all the time but but race car drivers It's So Physical you know it's such a physical they lose so much water they lose like something like s pounds of water or something in a race oh imagine they sweat like a pig it's hot as they don't have air conditioning in that thing yeah they're giant engine they're flying down the road crazy oh it's mad that's so interesting though you have to have an educated ass cuz I think horseback riding if you watch high high level jumper they you know are Dr guys they they it's the same exact thing it's all feel and it literally looks like they're doing nothing so the difference between the

08:38best in the world and the number 300 you and I could never tell the difference cuz they don't look like they're doing anything literally they're just they look like for me they look like they're sitting upright very still why I could never ride a horse and just there's nothing going on but the details those little like where they place the micro how they micromanage that saddle and and the signals they're sending to the horse course with their hands their legs and their ass is a whole different thing that's so often the case though with things where things look effortless because the people that are awesome at them do it so smoothly that it just you know you can't appreciate it unless you you actually do it that's what I love about life that's literally what I love about you know and it sounds silly but you can touch a little of that in anything you do when you um you know

09:28when you practice something you're not good at so tennis I always talk about tennis and boxing am I good at boxing and Tennis no do I obsess over where my feet are do I obsess over my grip with the right it's it's I swear to God the actual maybe the actual uh activity is secondary to how I love to work on the little details and get better through daily attendance through daily practice because something happens to me that reaches beyond that sport so when I do something that I'm maybe a little afraid of or maybe I'm not good at it forces me to think in a way that informs the other things in my life that I make a living at I do better at standup I write better when I push myself in these other areas it's really interesting yeah it totally makes sense because I I think very difficult Endeavors you know what whatever it is that you're trying to do any dance if you were trying to

10:20be a ballerina which I am are you yeah keep going I thought you were uh done with that b is my Foundation but I'm so passionate I live I there's too much equator in me I live in my groin so I had to move to Southside mangi well people that get really get into Jiu-Jitsu say that as well bour dain's been saying that a lot that you know getting into it is uh to him it's a lot like writing in some ways or it's almost like a meditation and completely obsessed a lot a lot of people that get into Jiu-Jitsu become completely obsessed with it too and it's for those same reasons like you get obsessed first of all with How Deep The Rabbit Hole goes I think that's probably the same with tennis or with golf it's most certainly same I've never played golf but I know the people that play it's exactly the same thing I talked to will durke will derky you know U he won or he

11:06took second in the uh 10th Planet jiu-jitsu tournament over in in Austin he's amazing he's a professional poker player as well and he was a D1 wrestler I think out of Virginia and you know watching him um he lost to uh another guy who's really good but but just barely when you watch those high level high level competition black belts which I'd never seen the subtlety I don't even see what they're doing I don't even see them tapping the guy but he was talking to me about how much he loves games and why poker and Jiu-Jitsu inform each other well you know Josh weit skin same thing same thing with chess he's a Jiu-Jitsu phenomenon Phenom well he's trying to I think he has a school where he teaches kids how to think he calls it he teaches them how to learn through martial arts math no martial arts music and chess I believe and it's all kind of the same it's kind of the same thing

11:57it's kind of why I feel like a lot of times I do think there's a place for self-help and you know inspiration when you're young but after a while you know just trying to get really good at something under proper tutelage I think will teach you all of those things maybe but there's a lot of people that just try to get good at it they never get good at it that probably would do better if they had better Pathways to think yes if they learned how to well I think first what someone like Tony Robbins does because I've listened to a lot of his tapes when I was younger what I what I was all set to make fun of him cuz I was trying to write this uh parody on him and then I listened to him and I went oh this knows exactly how my brain works I mean in a lot of ways he simplifies and he has tools that helped help me um focus my energy and recognize recognize certain patterns

12:49recognize certain unhelpful patterns it's very important is having Pathways in your mind like abandoning negative thoughts concentrating on positive ones abandoning nonsense concentrating on I mean that's a lot of what traps are that people fall into like addictive traps whether it's gambling or you know whatever fill in- the blank pornography like I was watching this whole thing the other day where people were coming out against pornography and pornography addiction like and they were talking about how harmful pornography is no no your mind is harmful exactly pornography is people having sex and sex is awesome so shut up there's a great there's a tired of that I'm right well but you can simplify it this way there's a dean said I am not interested it's it's less important what you think what I want to know is how you think and and you're talking about methodology it's

13:39it's how it's exactly what you're saying it's how you think about life and how you think about things so you may be a slave to certain Pathways and learning how to reprogram your your Pathways is a way way more important thing so it's not so much that it's pornography that's the end yes it's it's the methodology pornography is just sex and by the way we're just talking about regular pornography there there's certain pornography that you go okay what the is that for like why does anybody need to see people spit in people's eyes and come in people's noses and stuff like there's a lot of really up pornography but I always equate that to like the same thing was like if you watch certain violent movies it's almost like they are the product of the ramping up effect like every other violent movie that's come before them they've had to go further and further further to the

14:30point where it's just totally ridiculous that's exactly right it's not entertaining it's not good it's just there it's a response to like taking it to the next level the guy who wrote the double helix quote unquote for the for a serial killer for the making of a serial killer a guy named Richard Walter who's an FBI profiler brilliant guy he said that um serial killers will typically and this is from literally interviewing 20,000 30,000 prisoners uh many of whom were murderers violent criminals and he put together together this profile which was that serial killers many times start as with fetishes they'll start with you know feet really feet well a lot of times it can be as innocuous as rubbing against people in public places uh and then what and then you you graduate then that doesn't do it for you anymore and then you have to go into a store and cut

15:21leather jackets with a razor because you might get caught but it's like skin all that stuff and and what he said was that you never once you get to one level you never can go back you have to go forward you don't see them go all right this is too much let me go back to rubbing against people on you say never I mean don't don't some people like is there people that are potential serial killers that go what the am I do in my life I need to just I don't know take yoga I don't know I don't know but I do know that there have been some studies about how uh less there are I guess a lot of serial killers or Maniacs are doing less of that stuff because they can they can get more of it through a simulated environment well that was the argument that the Japanese had or some Japanese Scholars had about pornography is that Japanese porn is I might be wrong about this that it's more embraced and that

16:14when you look at like deviant Behavior it's more embraced in films and things like that and that sort of keeps them from doing it in real life yeah I I would imagine that you can get satiated visually you have those those visual triggers they say that the triggers for fighting you know when you watch MMA there are a lot of those visual triggers for men that are similar to what pornography does to a man when we see two dudes kicking each other and knocking each other out we want to do it yeah or at least we can't take our eyes off it yeah we definitely can't take our eyes off of it um but I think that also it's possible that that could like they say that about video games like the argument against video games has always been that video games encourage violence but it shows the the actual fact show that's the opposite is true that video games actually get people involved in

17:00the violence of video games and it satisfies whatever weird Cravings people might have for violence which are you know left over from thousands and thousands of years of DNA of people being successful in violence being rewarded for it you violence was a way you survived think about hunting well the Coliseum man I went to the Coliseum this week yeah I've been and oh my God that is a trip first of all I did not know that the Coliseum literally means next to the Colossus I didn't know that it was all about there was a gigantic I think it was 150 ft High bronze statue of Nero that he had constructed well you know the entire Coliseum was Nero's house at one point in time it it didn't exist it was like there's like seven areas of Rome like Seven Hills of Rome or something like that and his house was three of them damn his house had an enormous I think it was like more than 100 Acre

17:57Lake in the backyard of his house a man-made lake wow and that man-made lake like to drain it the drainage system to build that Lake they're they they're just discovering some of the areas of the Coliseum today so what they did is when they tore down his house they built the Coliseum for the people and it was like one of the biggest public buildings ever and they built it to satisfy the people that were just furious that this had taken over burned Rome he was just insane I mean Nero was just completely insane but what they had done with his his structure was turn it into this Coliseum but it was right next to this enormous statue of him so when you say like the LA Coliseum that's a stupid name because the LA next to the col next to the Colossus that doesn't even make any sense but that's what Coliseum means right it's wild when you go to Italy and especially Rome and

18:54you're standing in structures that have been there for and and were living and had you know people died on that it's kind of like the Octagon the original octagon you know well way more up than that here's one of the things they found out just recently like really recently that they had boat fights they would fill the bottom of the Coliseum with water wow and they would have boats Jesus and they would they've literally just discovered this they discovered some sort of a um some sort of artwork or something some writing that indicated that these boat fights took place for a very short amount of time like a couple of years how do you do that fight each other with your ores they would have battles they would have battles here it is they would this they would fill up powerful Jamie they would fill up the bottom with uh 2 meters of water 6 feet of water and have these

19:46boats and Float these boats around and they would fight to the death on boats how the would they do that I guess the walls kept the water in why I I guess how they drain it though well they had a a very complex drainage system like they showed the drainage system to us when take you on a tour you know and uh they were showing us the drainage system and also the system of raising the wild animals from the basement up through the floor yeah how would they do that they had this thing where these uh they had a reenactment or or or Recreation of one that uh I took some photos of I put one of the photos on my Instagram and these wild animals would be locked in these rooms right these small rooms they would give them no food no water and they'd keep them there for days so they'd be freaking out and starving and then finally they' take them out of the dark they put them uh

20:33they force them into this platform and then they would have these slaves crank this mechanism that would lift the platform up through a trap door in the floor so their first light in days and they would be out there with these Gladiators and and the bottom floor like they had several levels and the bottom level was all the rich people but they up and they didn't have the walls high enough so the Lions would leap 12T over the wall and just Jack all these rich people Jesus just Jesus Christ now the wall take it the wall yeah yeah so um it's like that San Francisco Zoo and that tiger jumped that 12 foot wall exactly yeah Jes well they had to figure out how to do it too because they would get these animals in there and most of the time they'd let the animals out and the animals would be just scared they didn't want to fight so they they really realized that

21:29by keeping them down there with no food and no water and getting them to a complete state of desperation and hysteria that would allow them to ensure that when they pop that trapo the Lions would come out and just try to Jack people brutal yeah they would kill everything they had elephants they had all all sorts of crazy animals they had brought in from Africa which by the way is not even a thousand miles away I had no idea Africa was so close see you can see it you can you know well you can see s you can see Africa from Sicily I believe you can see Africa from uh there see yeah like on clear days wowzy correct it seems like too many miles no there's certain parts of let me look at a map I can't remember that seems like way there's one area you can see from Spain from the tip of Spain maybe H I think I can't remember either somebody will correct me kind of crazy sic and

22:24Spain it says you can you see see it from like mountains or something yeah wow crazy so how crazy is that that that's that close it is well oh yeah yeah look look look at how close it is wow it's really close yeah sis is not attached but I don't know why they have it why they have it attached that's really weird that's a shitty map yeah here's the view oh what yeah that's Africa yeah you can see is that close no wonder why the Moors conquered Sicily exactly they're right there not like they traveled no they got in a raft floated over they back stroked all the way over they jacked everybody but uh it's beautiful it's so beautiful man oh yeah godamn that's where we went we went there too we did uh the MAF Coast we did the Vatican the vatican's insane did you do the Vatican I did it's insane first of all one of the Seven Wonders man well the fact that you're walking around on this

23:19tile that's 1,700 years old it's incredible and it all Mosaic and I mean beautiful artwork that everybody's watching talking on yeah like the guy was explaining to us that like this is a 17 year 100y old work of art not only that it was moved from somewhere else and reconstructed hundreds of years ago inside the Vatican wasn't even originally there damn I I never ever I've been to St peters's Cathedral I don't know maybe 10 times cuz my uncle used to live there and he had a rent control Department over the Patza naona which is really CL your uncle used to live in Rome yes my uncle doing there my uncle was uh in in Brooklyn New York in Benson Hurst New York York my uncle was a gay man uh he was very handsome he was a diver and uh yep and he was uh but of course um he was an actor and a singer and a dancer and of course in bensen her you know in BOS Brooklyn in the I don't

24:17know let's call it the what uh 50s 30s 40s when you were gay you know it wasn't first of all you were very Catholic so that was already a sin second of all you weren W really that welcome there wasn't a whole lot of Gay Pride everybody want to March uh so he went to Italy he went to Rome and lived there he knew he could be accepted yeah well he found his little niche he got into the theater company there and spoke Italian of course and uh had a and lived for and he died at 96 and lived above the P Noona in a rent controlled Penthouse he died from the Vatican owned he didn't die no sir I'm going to ask you to be a little more sure we have a lot of people listening he did not die from Dicks uh but he was a he was a character man and he did lots of plays in did you know that the Vatican owns the building that houses Europe's largest gay G bath house I did not know that but I also don't

25:13believe you because is that a is that a matter of uh is that a matter of conjecture or no it's fact it's probably a bath house now no it's the largest Gay Bath House in Europe and the Vatican owns it not only that I see I see the the there's the Cardinals or the bishop so whose office is right above the gay bath house conveniently conveniently there's a shoot that just drops down they own a lot of property they just Lube up their butt and drop down through the floor and whoop look at this Vatican plays landlord to Europe's biggest gay bath house Catholic Church paid 30 million dollar to acquire a building that houses a senior Cardinal and a huge gay sauna how weird so weird that uh uh I mean I don't know why they would want to own that I don't know cuz you want to sweat while you get your dick worked well you get your dick work by strong man hands that's all the amount of artwork

26:05that is in the Vatican like if you haven't been there before like I was not that excited about going to the Vatican before I went there I was like well I want to see the Coliseum obviously it's like one of the great wonders of History like that they had this thing there and that they did this and that it's also like the ultimate sign of excess you know like the the one thing that people point to when they talk about Society is falling apart due to excess is the Romans the Romans they went crazy like it was also sort of what gave food to the Reformation when Martin Luther this German Jesuit priest said hey man all this money that's going to you know idolatry essentially like building these incredible statues and these incredible Cathedrals and we're starving over here how about if we just read the Bible if we just read the Bible then maybe we'll be you know just as in favor with God as

26:56you guys and maybe we don't need a hierarchy of Bishops and all these and popes and all this sort of rank and file that also needs a salary that's also taking money well Martin Luther was also the first guy to translate the Bible phonetically so that regular people could read it CU everybody else was like no one knew Latin they couldn't read Latin that's right so it was only these priests that we had to rely on to to get the word of God from Martin Luther was like that's ridiculous but it's luckily Martin Luther had such a high standing and decided they couldn't kill him right they tried he had to leave he was always on the run but you're right but it was if he was anyone else if he wasn't like a very respected High standing person in society they probably would have jacked him a long time ago yeah that there there was already um when I I can't remember I read a lot about it back in

27:44the day but um he was always under threat of that he had to essentially I think it was in bitberg there's this a phrase that people always associate with Rome called the vomitorium and uh that's not what it sounds like like everybody thinks that they got there and they threw up and then they went back and ate again that's not what they did I always thought they did that yeah no the vomitorium refers to the way they got people out of the stadium it had nothing to do with the word vomit huh it's the way the stadium is structured is this gigantic that's a vomitorium is the the E the exit so they had all these exits they had a bunch of different doors all throughout the building like if you you look at like some images of the colum there's all these Pathways like you would go you know 30 yards over there's another pathway 30 yards over there's another pathway and that allowed an efficient

28:36way of getting people see like look at all the doorways see all those doorways all around it that that was an efficient method of getting people out of the stadium so they called it a vomitorium but like if you look the animology of the word like look up the the origins of the word vomitorium and what it means in Latin but it doesn't have anything to do with vomit but sounds like it so everybody was like oh they just ate and threw up so people like sort of repeated that over and over and over again they stick a feather down their throat I'm sure someone did that I'm sure there was some fat fued to keep part happens right now in Los Angeles yeah I just dat a girl had a problem with that so did I yeah vomitorium okay here it was a place which according to popular misconception the ancient Romans were supposed to have vomited that's not true um the arch of a

29:23series of entrances or exit Pathways in an ancient Roman Amphitheater or theater yeah see that's what it really means so the popular misconception the second version of it but translate use over time what what is the origins of the word though like what does that mean vomitoria is the plural noun huh that's weird that's the plural vomitor probably you know it sounds like it's where people would vomit out of right but it's not vomit that's not it's like that's our word yeah but that's not like what what they would call it right like you know what I'm saying like our word vomit is puke but that's not what they were referring to when they were calling it a vomitorium it's just one of those weird Latin things but everybody always thinks that everybody always thinks that's what a vomitorium was like can you imagine if there was a house that people would go to throw up in like hey let's

30:18we going to go to the vomitorium like what kind of eat here's a feather but you would call it the puke house like that is so ridiculous the puke room vomitorium the puke room the sauna room what is the actual does it say Jamie it says here there's two misinterpret or where it might have came from the misinterpretation yeah but what does the original what does the actual word mean like vomitorium it just sounds like it's the entrance just toew for oh to spew forth spew for and I wonder if vomit actually came from that then oh for sure yeah for sure definely so the original thing was an exit and then vomit became that huh that's interesting it's kind of how language happens right yeah but that's it's well it's weird how it happens over thousands of years how things distort and warp yeah that's how my language is always changing yeah it's always changing we

31:13we're always making up our own languages it's constant well we were there they had just found some new two days before we were there they're constantly finding like New Path passages underneath the Coliseum and new things but the the amount of work that was done in completing that building and and and making those structures it's insane with free labor which is why slavery isn't that bad H what wait a minute it's interesting that slavery was the order of the day it was for most of History most of history when you look at like wage slavery today when you I mean there's no slavery today but if you can imprison people in a state of poverty right it's not not against their will right voluntarily you get people hooked on buying things and you get them hooked on credit so they they need to work they constantly need to work and then they're in these jobs that are completely

32:11deadend low-wage jobs they can't go anywhere and then they perform these menial tasks until we figure out robots that can do those tasks far better and far more efficient and it's not slavery because they can quit and leave anytime they want but it in a lot of ways it has the same effect there's a difference I think aot differ yeah I mean no no I mean uh I'm talking about you there's a macro difference like there's there is some an idea that has gained great traction and because ideas move really slowly sometimes but there's an idea that has gained Traction in most of the world and even in parts of the world where it isn't they try to defend it as it being so and that is the idea of universal human rights Universal Human Rights was not an idea that was embraced by most of the world even as far back probably you can make the argument as 1940 slavery was alive and

33:09well think about this country in it in itself this country until 1964 was it uh where there was separate but equal the idea that you had black and white water fountains um Brown 100 years before that which is nothing slavery that's right and so the idea that and of course that had to be defended along biblical grounds and all these kind of shoddy ideas but the idea of of universal human rights even though the judeo-christian ethic and even Islam talked about sort of everybody being of the same moral worth because we're all from the same father right that's the monotheistic notion and where value comes in those religions we're all the same as long as you you know read the Bible and follow these tenants but Universal human rights is something a little bit different and it's a modern concept and um that like a germ Theory the idea that these things you can't see

34:04um but you still have to wash your hands or you can spread bacteria and things like that those things that move very slowly but that is I think how are you how are you connecting those two I just talking about how how both those ideas are ideas that took a long time to gain traction you know even though they were good for us and but but let's stick to let's stick to um Universal human rights I think that that idea I think that idea is is just that mindset and the fact that you have to defend it as a society is why there's such a stark difference between I understand what you're saying by being in bondage to your lifestyle to having to make make a living because you got people to depend on you and stuff like that I don't think that'll ever go away but um there's such a oh that could definitely go away you don't think that'll go away I think that could definitely go away the same way slavy

34:52I'm optimistic but what I'm saying is that there's I think when I'm like slaves have zero dignity like in fact there's no somebody one time historian said there's no such thing as a slave slave there there are people in bondage so anybody who is uh a slave you're not a slave but you are a person in slavery right so so like he he posed this question he said when did the civil rights movement begin in this country everybody like well in Selma Alabama and the you know 60s and the 50 no he said no no no no he said the Civil Rights Movement began the first day that an African-American was brought to this country against his will any human being doesn't want to be in bondage you are always trying to get out of bondage and there is that striving for dignity that I think we're getting closer to I how is wait a minute that's slavery how is that the Civil Rights Movement this the first

35:44day that someone's brought to United States against the will that's not the first day that someone enacted some sort of a civil right well he was being he was being what he was saying was that you know everybody is always fighting for dignity and their own sovereignity and their own civil rights regardless of you know where they are if you put someone in bondage and you make them do things against their will and you you take their dignity away right they are immediately they are immediately beginning the struggle for their own Freedom right and that's where the conspiracy theories fall into play where modern capitalism is thought of as being some sort of a new way around that that instead of having people slaves like literally bonding them putting them in ch keeping them against their will instead you just set up these honey traps and you allow people to get sucked

36:33into these things like having massive debt from student loans and making credit cards easy and allowing people to mortgage a house they can't really afford knowing full well that eventually the bank's going to foreclose on this and reap some sort of a profit and that all these things this is where conspiracy theories fall into play that all these things are set up to enact a modern form of slave and that there's always going to be people that are taking advantage of people below them and putting them in very disadvantageous situations for their own gain I would say that that's literally the state of nature and and what I mean by that is that let let's just take for example um the marketplace uh if you just let people let people go let people do their thing they are going to for example uh there's going to be a Marketplace for um differences of opinion this is what I

37:26mean there's a a company it's about to start up uh you start a company I don't know what it is let's just say it's a you know uh it's a gadget and you're going to have groups of people on this side that are going to say that's going to be the next big thing Joe Rogan's company is going to be the next apple and you're going to have a bunch of other people on the other side who are going to go you know what uh not a shot and here's why so you have these differences of opinion there's a Marketplace there's a Marketplace for what essentially is a derivative uh you know or a swap there's a Marketplace there to where people say I will bet you I will short that I will basically say I'll buy it at this price right now and I'll sell it to you and if it goes up in value you pay me the difference that's how that's how marketplaces work so for me capitalism is just a bunch of people

38:17with different opinions who are trying to make money who are coming up with ideas and if you create a society where you can enforce contracts and make people keep their promises and you can you can ensure that people have what's called property rights which is really important you know courts essentially that have integrity that can't be bought off then that's as far as I can see what you'd call a free market capitalist society and it seems to be better than most of the other sort of uh systems that require Central oversight and because I not because Central oversight is such a bad thing I just think it's impossible to control you know the way people think on such a macros scale I think it's very I don't think you have to control the way people think well or behave or behave or barter yeah I get it and I see what you're saying about capitalism and I see what you're saying

39:17about Society but I I think that all these things when we point to ancient Rome we point to how up their world was and slavery as recently as couple hundred years ago I think we're saying is things are getting better we're we're evolving we're figuring out a way to make a society that is more beneficial to more people but still not to everyone and then the point is is it possible to create a utopian society where it's beneficial to virtually everyone and then the way to do that the only way to do that is like like here's a here's a good example like people love to tout socialism as some sort of uh cure to what ails us you know that somehow or another that if you get people and you you give everybody money and you everybody shares wealth equally but the problem that cuts out incentive incentive for madness and excellence and the incentive for madness and Excellence

40:14is why you have Tesla Motorcars and Elon Musk and all these Steve Jobs Steve Jobs was a Maniac he was a I mean proba a bad dad probably probably a shitty guy to work for you know probably a total if you did something wrong if you put a one instead of a zero in a line of code and the phone crashed when it hit a th000 emails or what he probably beat the out of you he's a maniac but it was because of him that we have iPhones it's because of that kind of Madness 100% how many how many iPhones have you bought that were made in Russia how many cars have you bought that were made in Russia exactly but in Russia is a a up example because it's not really socialism it's really Communist dictatorship well now it is yeah yeah what kind of it it it never Rec the Russians I think their problem is they have one idea of power which is biggest guns divert your eyes in my presence how how up is

41:07that Russia is getting kicked out of the Olympics yeah you paying attention to this course they're they're going to k kick the whole team out the whole Russian team well cheating is so it's so systemic it's so systemic it's it's state sponsored yeah I mean they've got the KGB apparently or what used to be the KGB involved well then they have this one woman who's a whistleblower who's going to compete independent without a nation how long before they kill her I know good luck with that get bottle of water that's that's Russia's problem Russia's idea there are two types of power right there's the power that where you can't stop staring at somebody because they have Prestige and you want to be like them that's a power that you can use for good if you have all those eyeballs on you you can you can say hey guys I know you're all looking at me and you do this

41:48all the time how many people love you know this how many people download this podcast you're very aware of the responsibility that comes with so you do two things you try to keep it really honest and true to yourself but you also try to have really smart people on who have different perspectives so you can kind of figure out a way to get those ideas out into people's heads that's one form of power that I would consider a positive use then there's the Russian model of power well it's not power it's influence uh you I would I I think they're very closely related I think they're joined at the hill well they don't it doesn't control anyone that's the difference between like the power that Putin has and the power that the Nerdist has well so so so so exactly you just use the word so there's a difference so there's power that controls and there's power that inspires

42:33and I think power that inspires is what this country needs to keep in mind at all times that's the power look you always need power you need guns and stuff they're crazy people you need a strong military I think the difference is like is you're using a blanket statement like power it's like the word drugs like caffeine's drug so is meth you know what I mean like there's power and then there's influence but there's things that are powerful and is things that have power over people and like to control people like and then people can't do anything about it that's that's a difference that's right so the word power the problem is the use of the word power but remember that also the mindset I believe that Russia and which is such an amazing with such an amazing group of people they could do anything they wanted and a strong culture but I think the mindset of Russians and many in many

43:22ways maybe it's not their fault maybe it's a product of their history their mindset is that they admire the the first example of power control and strength and dominance more than they admire the power that influences and inspires things that are powerful so they're like Trump supporters I think so I think so they're Putin supporters they like a strong man at the helm we know this does Trump like Putin and Putin likes Trump yes that's Seck that's probably not good right I would imagine no I haven't been paying attention to the Republican National Convention but Jamie did and I but I am paying attention to the fact that this is this is what I like about all this stuff what I like about all this Trump nonsense is it's shown how vulnerable this system is to that a madman can come along and just take over the whole thing did you see what his biographer said

44:17the guy who remorse right deep remorse and he said that if Donald Trump becomes president and has the key to the nuclear football he said he literally could be the end of civilization he said the book should have been titled in titled instead of the art of the deal should have been titled the art of sociopath I believe or or the the words of a sociopath or something along those lines but his take on Trump was that he's a total sociopath it's not surprising to me I mean he's certainly a narcissist and maybe they're the same thing in some ways but I mean a hot wife though he's he's got a hot wife he's always bringing things back to himself and he just he just lies at his convenience he's just it's unbelievable do you know that he's been ued something like 3,500 times I believe that when you have a huge company that happens a lot so that's that's that's not as surprising

45:06to me what um but like by waiters and stuff oh yeah well you know his creditors a lot of people that invested you know people that did work for him never got paid a lot of the companies that he started uh went bankrupt you know we talk about him being well yeah we talk about him being this great businessman I don't know that we have a lot of evidence he's done a good job creating a brand that's worth something so if you put it on a hotel it comes with in your mind uh you think of high quality prestigious you know nice bedding and you know or if he has a building it's the Trump Tower well isn't it also interesting that he took the name Trump because like I believe trump card that expression trump card was there before the name Trump because his last name is drump yeah drump that's his actual last name I saw John Oliver talk about that is well I mean there's

45:57nothing wrong with the name drump I mean Arnold Schwarzenegger became famous as Arnold Schwarzenegger I mean he's got the goofiest name ever and he smashed it with that name in America you can get away with it why couldn't you be drump nothing wrong with drum doesn't mean anything remember I remember being amazed that the United States voted a man by the name of Barack Hussein Obama in yeah when we our Public Enemy Number One was uh you know Osama Bin Laden so phonetically they sound very similar oh yeah well how about Hussein we also enemies with s hin it's crazy I mean he had a goofy ass name for a guy to be elected president but that's why I give Americans a lot of credit I think Americans are are you know if you listen to Europeans talk but they're always marveling at how quote unquote dumb Americans are I don't think Americans are dumb and I think Americans

46:43in a lot of ways are very fair-minded too well there's that but there's also the fact there's a two-party system where if you are on the left you have to support whoever's on the left that's why all these people are lining up to support Hillary Clinton to and ignoring left and right all the crazy evidence against her just being completely full of she's corrupt we oh my God we played this video the other day where they were showing the difference between what the FBI has said about her trial about their them them looking into the email uh server the illegal use of the email server the fact that top secret documents were shared cut and pasted and shared with people that did not have the status to to be able to check those and that multiple devices were used to ACC these and then compare them to what she has said about it she's just a liar yeah she's a liar he's a liar she's a liar

47:35what do you think why do you think she set that server up in her bathroom what was the benefit of that do you think who the knows was it just convenience and she told to do that could it could be that it could be that she just didn't want anybody to have any oversight over her email and she wanted to have a server in her home look she deleted a lot of emails thousands of emails and you're not supposed to do that like that's a part of that gig part of that gig is transparency she skirted around that gig I had Mike Baker in here from the CIA a former CIA operative who said flat out if he had done the same thing he go I exactly what he said I would be in jail no he'd be in jail He was discussing how this is just not done and everyone knows this this is like this is not a woman who just stepped into politics for the first time this is someone who's been involved in politics

48:22virtually your whole life I read a good article somebody sent me and I'll send it to you um and I can't remember what the magazine was incredible incredible magazine the journalist he said look I I have my point of view on Hillary and he's not a left leaning I think he's probably more of a conservative columnist he said and he went and um he interviewed all the people that have worked with Hillary Clinton for with and uh and even her opponents and it was really really really interesting to get the perspective he said the one thing that they talk about is number one she doesn't feel very comfortable in front of it's not a natural fit for her to be in front of audiences talking but dude she's such a great speaker she's a great speaker sh way she talks very it's so nice on the ears see I think her voice is very grounded and strong like this it's boxy but they body they do use

49:13words like they they consider to be funny thoughtful and very intelligent now uh that that was an interesting I my eyes were a little bit open I said wellow the people are closest to her that have worked with her had more favorable things to say and I'm not a Hillary supporter but they had more favorable than negative which I thought was pretty interesting because I never thought of actually interviewing people that have worked closely with her okay stop right there these are political people true so think about what their job is what they do for a living and how to make it in that world you have to be full of and you have to yeah it's very much like TR getting somebody to say something bad about somebody else cuz you never know if they're going to be it it's amazing it's the best script I've ever read the best script I've ever read well not only that he's an amazing

49:55actor she amazing oh my God Ghostbusters the new Ghostbusters is incredible those girls are so strong they're such strong women it's my new thing it's amazing my new thing is the empowerment of women I love this new talk that it's just it's not new either I'm just she's totally empowered she's she's totally embraced her nudity oh God she's bending over and arching her back and licking her lips she's so empowered she's Brave cuz she's naked and fat she's so brave all right if she was Brave she'd get up at 4:00 in the morning and hit the gym before she went to the set she wouldn't be fat anymore are angry at that Melissa McCarthy woman they're angry that she's losing weight do you understand this I love it they're angry that she's choosing to become healthy so they're saying this is in direct contrast to who she was before who we loved is this cartoonish fat

50:43lady yeah and this cartoonish fat lady who we want to pretend is healthy yeah you know there's a slew of people out there that have blogs out there talking about different things that are healthy about being fat and I went down a rabbit hole one night because some woman was writing she was this obese woman and I was really sad when I was looking at her photos and you know people like to highlight things that people say about them on social media and you know like you know all these people are harassing her for being fat but she she's putting out a Blog right when you're putting yourself out there and you're putting a Blog you're just going to you put some honey out there you're going to attract a certain amount of bugs there just no way around that right but she was talking about different aspects of being overweight that are healthy and this one weird

51:29phenomenon where healthy people that catch a disease sometimes don't do as well as fat people that have the same disease in the old days they said you used to have some weight on you in case you get a disease and you can fight it better that was always the case what is that how how could that be true I guess because maybe and I'm just this is Bro Science but from what I remember reading your fat can actually absorb or store uh uh more I I don't know you have you have reserves when you're not eating and stuff you know your body will use the fatty acids for energy well that makes sense so your body gets into a state of burning fat rather than burning food and many times when people are sick that's a huge issue is coming up with some form of energy my Italian relatives you know the Sicilian side back in the day I remember if somebody was too skinny they look they they would say you know be

52:24careful if you get sick you know you you'll die well totally makes sense but that doesn't mean it's healthy to be fat it just means it's like it's a reserve policy in case you get a catastrophic disease but you're also more likely to get that catastrophic disease if you're fat yeah so it's such a catch 22 this book uh by Gary tab I I just love called why we get fat and what to do about it and he he traces the genealogy of the Obesity epidemic and he goes all the way back to the 30s in New York City and he looks at how ineffective all the obesity clinics and even the signs of obesity has been it's been so difficult because a lot of times they treated it like it was a psychological disease like you eat too much so you'd go to a psychiatrist um or they would put you on these very restrictive diets 1,200 calories a day and you would lose weight but at the end

53:12of the day you descend but but also your body gets into this state of panic where it tries to store energy really quickly because it's worried that you're in a famine state right so what he traces and then he looks at the Native Americans that were had to sort of get get on government rations when their land was taken and they all blew up like balloons cuz they were given white flour and the tast of the book is essentially that when you eat simple carbohydrates and a lot of carbohydrates especially things like white flour and sugar your body produces a lot of insulin and for a whole bunch of met metabolic reasons it's insulin that causes you to retain fat molecules and need more sugar for energy and he does a really great job in the book book of explaining it um but that sort of you know um when when you look at it that way and when you look at the fact that it's just a question of

54:01changing what you put into your body uh you know you will uh then eventually like this keto diet for example it's a really good way to lose weight and not have to restrict your calories it just is now I don't know if it's for everybody uh I don't think there is a single diet that's for everybody I I don't either I don't either people's bodies are different like obviously people have different allergies to foods like or allergies to all sorts of things like it's that's a great indication that we are just there's so much biological diversity so many people have genetics that have come from all sorts of different parts of the world all sorts of different environments that we evolved from there there's no one single diet with obesity is fairly recent only because when people started eating you know that much sugar and but you know I think that's Universal right like like

54:47there's nothing wrong with eating a certain amount of carbs and Breads and pastas but it is universal that massive amounts of sugar are bad for you there's no I don't think there's any question anymore scien but one one of things hard for very fat people Obe people who have trouble with this who may have gotten caught into thatn as kids or they have a and it's very true that some people genetically do put weight on they don't process carbs the way other people do like I can eat carbs all day and stay very thin some people just can't do that but for a long time you're very active though I'm very active but for a long time what I'm saying is that there's always been and still is a stigma which is you're fat which means you are of weak character or you have a faulty character you're about and that's why they take so much whereas Gary tab in his book said a lot of it was just

55:31the fact that people didn't know how the body worked and a lot of this information came out in Germany before the war there were these Austrian and German scientists that were really closing in on what insulin does to make you gain weight but guess what when the war was over no American scientists were going to use German data it was kind of like no we'll come up with our own data well we use their rocket data we did use their rocket data we scooped up all the Operation Paperclip we scooped up all their rocket scientists and made them Americans yeah there's a thing about Warner Von braw being a great American and like waron braw was a Nazi the guy who ran the NASA space program was a straightup Nazi who the Simon weisenthal Center said if he was alive today they would prosecute him for crimes against humanity damn I didn't know that y they hung the five slowest workers every day

56:23at his rocket Factory in Berlin sweet guys they hung Jews they hung them in the front of the rocket Factory to encourage the workers to work faster one of the things that they they say this is by the way coming directly from people who are still alive who worked in that factory with tattoos on their arm believe I believe it I I don't think that's a I don't even think that's a point of conjecture crazy is it that we just scooped up all those monsters like Monsters really good at shooting metal dicks into the sky let's uh let's come over here we also but we also scooped up a lot of uh German an Austrian Jewish scientist because when they in fact Einstein I believe immigrated after a number of or I think it was two scientists who were Jewish were assassinated were shot on the street and so all these like brilliant Jewish uh scientists said uh let's get the out of here and go to the UK

57:16and go to the United States well you know the horrible tragedy of Fritz hobber you know the hobber method the hober method Inc of the guy figured out a way to extract nitrogen from the air and it's one of the they say today that there's a there's a fantastic Radio Lab podcast on this I think it's called the bad show I think that's what it's called because there's uh they did they did a good show and a bad show I think that's what it's called and what they just showed is that sometimes and this we've all known this sometimes people that have done horrible horrible things or also amazing at something that benefits a lot of folks and this is one of them classic example hobber figured out this way to extract nitrogen from the air and the nitrogen in our bodies today they estimate that some 50 nitrogen what they use it for is fertilizer and for the longest time yeah for the longest time

58:09they used to have to get like dead fish or mulch or something like that compost and that's in fact bat guano yeah bat guano was a big one literally batshit crazy was like because people would have wars over bat that's right isn't that nuts I didn't know that but but that's exactly yeah that's what it is there was Wars over bat like because that's how you grew your food amazing and people would starve during the winter because they didn't know how to get that nitrogen into the soil and Fritz Harbor is literally credited with stopping Mass scale starvation but then there's the other side the other side well they said that today the nitrogen in our bodies 50% of it came from the hober method go all the people today like literally he's responsible for a massive increase in the population of this world but he also was the guy that used gas in War for the first time not only that he

59:01personally oversaw it he went to the front lines and well it started with it started with a he was working on insecticides right uh which is by the way is what zeyon B which was used to gas the Jews well he came up with zeyon a and zeyon a had a smell attached to it so that you could know what it was and get the away from it whereas zeyon B the Nazis extracted the smell meanwhile harber was a Jew so what a crazy conundrum that guy found himself where his own relatives died directly from an invention that he created it's incredible and you know also if you if you take a sympathetic approach to a man who was a patriot he was a patriot his country was at War he had benefited from this country he had a legacy in this country he had standing in this country and his country was under direct threat and he said I think I know a way to help this war effort so

59:55we can stop the enemy me and you know we should all again it's not what you think it's how you think we should all put ourselves in his shoes if I had a way and I'm I I I think I'm all right about that if I had a way as an American as Brian Kellen to save my country from people I thought were going to actually take it over or kill a bunch of people including my family I'm going to gas the out of them if I can invent a technique I'm going to gas him and I'm going to come up away to shoot a rocket at him that that's so if that makes me a bad person call Fritz well isn't it crazy though that this guy was literally receiving the Nobel Prize for the hober method at the same time for being wanted for crimes against humanity for war criminal but the same people that wanted to try him for war crimes dropped nuclear bombs on two cities in Japan like what is a war crime like when

60:49you're killing people like oh you killed people the wrong way like we have rules you can't kill people like that Curtis lame who oversaw I believe the bombing the fire bombing of Tokyo uh and uh this before the the heroshima Nagasaki bombs this is the fire bombs which by the way killed more people did more Destro I mean everybody concentrates on the the two events Hiroshima and Nagasaki firebombing was I mean what we did to Dresden what we did to the Allies really it was the British and the Americans but um I mean dresen looked like the surface of the Moon uh you know uh Kurt vaget I think in the book slaughterhouse 5 talks about this in Vivid detail but look at just YouTube Dresden before and after Jimmy bring up Dresden Jimmy Jimmy I said bring up Jim Jim bring Dresden before and after the firebombing but Curtis lame I think in a period of eight days in Tokyo eight I mean 1 million

61:44people died from fire and Curtis L said business war is the business of killing people and if I had been on the losing side I'd probably be tried as a war criminal and if you see Curtis lame he's always in a cigar and he was the commander and he was the one who made those decisions and he said we're going to punish the German Workers they're real pictures though look at that what is this dresen was a jewel it was a jewel it was a beautiful like post uh like the surface of the Moon you'll see do they have videos of it that Jamie this is all this is this is before and after the Allied bombing I don't know why it's just pictures yeah see if you can find some photos some beautiful Dr ruins after the Allied bombing who but this iswing way worse than that no that's a real photograph oh that's a photo yeah there you go that's what it looked like oh my God that's

62:36what it looked like oh my God all of it all of it and they and he they talk about the survivors who were just walking around the city that had been standing for 700 years or something crazy God and it was no longer how did anybody survive this they didn't in fact people were falling down who look at that those are bodies yes people were falling down um they were falling down because the oxygen was sucked out of the air so You' you'd be on the street and you would you would just fall down cuz there's no air yes or there'd be a bomb and the people open their shutters stick their head out and the Aftershock would take their heads off whoa It's we're very lucky very lucky we didn't live at this time Jes Christ what a strange thing it it was an apocalypse giant scale war is like that and and Europe what was it uh was it uh 50 million people at the end of World War

63:28II that were dead maybe as many as 80 million put that into context and that from those ashes from these experiments like fascism and the idea that you can perfect human beings and perfect society and create Utopias from those experiments came uh Ash and 80 million Graves and kind of sort of right kind of sort of I mean the idea like if you just wanted to improve a on human beings without killing people that you thought were inferior if you just wanted to create the Uber Munch without making everybody else die you know without you need but you need to re-educate so re-education camps that Paul pot would put people in you had to be March to the countryside because he was creating a an agrarian Utopia but why does it always have to why why does any beneficial act like an the idea of creating better people like we would all like a better Society with better people I mean if we

64:24all had a a world where everybody had perfect genetics and nobody had to worry about fat shaming you know like nobody had to worry about not being attractive nobody had but that's not good the problem is like the stress and the the anxiety of being a dork and the the the the stress of being bullied and that's where where diamonds come from like it's not good to bully someone it's not good to to to to take advantage of someone it's not good to to make someone's life hell m but a lot of times that's where you get a Marvin Gay of course you know you get these these jewels of art you know you get these people that come out of these horrible environments and they have this power to them but you have to create you you're right you still have to create some respit you know that the great the great the great Matthew Arnold who said that the United States is the

65:17the land of stock market and big guns and and Powerful you know an agrarian side that can feed the world of Prince well he also said I was going to say he said we have to always remember to create safe haven for our gentler Spirits our weirdos and people that think differently and act differently because that's where you get Prince Little Richard Marilyn Manson and all the things that make our culture interesting and that's a very important thing to keep in mind when you when you um but again look when you talk about um bombing and how we're getting better think about for a second the methodology in our brain of how we a lot of people think of not only terrorism and I'm guilty of this too or even say something like cancer so if you have cancer there's one method of treating it and sometimes it works which is there's a tumor let's cut it out let's cut the

66:06tumor out there's another method of treating it which is diet and health and taking care of your body before it ever happens this is one of the things so you're talking now about The Duality is what I'm saying is that we we fall sometimes into the mindset that every problem can be cut out and and removed right instead of saying just said what you just said is there's another there might be another tact in in every issue so when you when we talk about um the bad guys we talk about we have to K and and listen there's there's a there's a place and a time to take out the bad guys there's no question of course you know but we have to be careful that we have we don't fall into one way of thinking and one way of dealing with what we consider threats right right because we could make the problem worse um and instead sometimes we might want to say maybe this time maybe this is a

67:01problem that doesn't require cutting and radiation and uh you know removing maybe it's what you just said maybe we should approach it systemically from a different angle that's not as uh not as violent not as physical yeah well there's also the problem of the charismatic leader and there's also a problem of people wanting to be a part of a team like you were talking about if you could get gas the people that are the threat to the United States but who are those people they're just people the idea that somehow or another someone who lives in Italy who uh I've never met is against me uh someone who lives in the United States who who they've never met that's preposterous we just don't know each other and when you get by the way when I was in Italy one of the weirdest things about it and I've never been there before so I don't know the but the people that were there were

67:51describing to me how everything has changed I was talking to this one cab driver he was really in guy and uh he was uh we were commenting I was asking him about everywhere you look they have these Land Rover Defenders that are in camo with these military people standing out there with machine guns everywhere everywhere and I said is this normal and he said no he said this is the new way he's like this is uh the world is changing he said this is not a good world he said this is not good and I said so this is a direct response to the terrorist threats and the things that have been happening in Paris he goes yes yes yes he goes they don't want it to happen here so so all the places where there was tourists where it was the Vatican whether it was the Coliseum you saw these these camouflage Land Rover Defenders these public displays guns and a woman I saw a woman I was

68:39thinking about punching her taking her gun like I think they Canen some of those women are no joke no I don't think so I got it they're training to react quickly that's my gun she holding it it's my gun obviously I'm kidding but is it is weird to see these people that are standing out there holding guns and they had very serious looks in their face they're scanning the crowd looking left and looking right and a lot of Middle Eastern people there A lot of people dressed up like beekeepers a lot of poor ladies with gloves on and ninja masks and I was like what in the 2016 and you got people wandering the streets of one of the greatest cities in the world and a liberal democracy that talks about giving people their own sovereignity on what they were yeah and all the women Italian women dressed like hoes yeah they're beautiful look at for dick ho well they're just very I

69:30considerer they dress they're minimalists excuse me sir they're minimalists and they did they know how to I'm a fan I'm a fan of ho did you uh see what happened in France over the weekend this U this man stabbed a woman and her three children at a at a resort for being scantily dressed this Muslim man what in the man well it's such a bankrupt it's such a bankrupt philosophy if you can even call it that this idea ideology an ideology it's an ideology I'm going to kill you that you talk about people who are caught in a trap this this Isis ideology talk about being caught in a pathway this guy this guy wasn't an Isis he wasn't an Isis guy he was just some radical Muslim some someone who deeply believes what he's been taught his ideology so powerful that he's willing to stab an 8-year-old kid in the lungs this poor kid had a collapse a little girl little girl

70:23cuz she was wearing a beach outfit Jr Jesus Christ well this is a guy um it sounds like he might have been mentally ill or but the guy who drove over those people in N that happened while I was there is that how he say it n yes that happened while I was there well this is the other thing is again not only do they do that because they're fanatical they think they're actually going to change something and make the world a better place by by behaving in this mad fashion by they might because they're going to unleash the Joo willink on the world are going to go out there and they're going to kill people like this they're going to get people to the point where they lose all tolerance well I'm getting to that point and I'm pretty tolerant and I'm getting that point and here's the here's that's interesting about when you think about Isis so I was talking to my buddy who's

71:08a CIA guy you know he's a he's a Delta guy he's one of these real kind of guys who's in there and does all the the dirty work and he said um I said you know let's why don't we just bomb uh these their strongholds you make them martys well no he also said he said um you have to understand that that's not like they're all camped out in one area they're in a town the size of you know let's say Baltimore and they're they have safe houses but for the most part they're all over that place but more importantly as Isis Fighters die what they do is they come to families that are peaceloving families and they say listen we need to we need to uh conscript your son and uh your two other Sons right there they now belong to Isis now you can say no and die or you can bring them bring them over for the cause because you better be down for is that what's going on that's what's going on

71:58now where's this happening what part of world in Syria in Iraq in in those places where they have strongholds but a lot of people are joining voluntarily yes yes they are including European women have you seen this crazy where girls are going from England and they're joining Isis yeah they're also getting they're also getting wholesale just destroyed they're just dying and and now Isis is trying to support the families of the martyrs and they're out of money and you know so they're losing the they're losing the physical battle but the ideology is always going to inspire faces like this guy who kills children and I think in that case you know you do need a strong presence and people willing to shoot those people before they do what they do it's really hard to prevent though well it's hard to prevent crazy people yeah and the word crazy is not the right word it's hard to prevent evil

72:50Psychopaths it's hard to prevent people like I mean forget relig ideology the guy who shot up those people in the movie theater in Colorado it's hard to prevent that it's it's hard to I mean that that happened more than once right I mean how many times people didn't someone get shot up in Amy Schumer's movie were there people that went to see train wreck that was right right yeah and cuz she was uh about that what do you think is the answer me that's a good question is the answer is the answer this is a little bit radical but is the answer let all of us carry a gun how you GNA stop that truck with a gun I don't know the trucks are more dangerous than guns you know it's up I I kind of predicted that that truck attack during the Steven Crowder podcast and I didn't even realize I did it somebody posted on the inter in the internet a clip of it like what's to stop someone

73:42because we were talking about gun control and I'm like the problem is mentally insane people that are willing to kill people and they could do it a lot of ways man and I was like what's to stop someone from taking a car and driving through a crowd of people there's not much you do about it mm but you can shoot them in the face so that they die in the car I do you get lucky and hit them you know how hard it is to shoot at someone when they're driving at you in a car it's hard to shoot a deer that's standing still no and and you resting your gun on a rock but it's possible and and I'd rather have that answer than have to run and scream with my kids I'd rather be able to Stand My Ground and and squeeze off you know right six rounds in his Direction and I really mean that no it's there's an argument there and I think the argument against that that you know you should not have that because

74:30you're more likely to kill someone in your family and you know that's not a great argument either I think on both sides like the real issue is mental health the real issue is inequality the real issue is people growing up and when I say inequality I don't necessarily even mean rights I mean in the environment in which your soul enters this world like what what what is the environment that you and I entered well we have really nice parents and we got really lucky we got born in America and you didn't were you even born in America born Philipp I was born in the Philippines Jesus Christ I Liv overse I was 14 years old going barely a lot of different countries um that's where I get my Edge but you you you got lucky you have a really nice family you know I got lucky great family like nice people you know that's very fortunate if you were born in Iraq or in Saudi Arabia or

75:18in Afghanistan or in any of these places where they're dealing with these ancient ideologies you're it's it's like it's like there's a race and the race is 30 Mi long and you're starting out at mile one where some people are at Mile 29 like there's no way it's no way this is fair there's no way it's just not fair and there's got to be a way through either time or effort or just the sheer expression of ideas that permeate through this world where slowly but surely that's the key slowly but surely things have to even out to the point where people realize the correct way to behave and treat people look you could say religious tolerance all you want but when there's a woman dressed like a ninja at the mall that lady is not in a good place she she's being forced to dress like that this is not her idea there's no way it is this is an idea that was stuck into her life when

76:19she was a small person and she grew up with that idea now she's married to some guy who enforces that idea and this gu gu walking around with a golf shirt on and his wife's dressed like a ninja I mean it's is madness and I think that it makes their country weaker if you if you if you categorize and and and you know creates these sort of fencing around an entire class of people and a gender if you take women and say you guys have to walk a little bit behind me you have we just know that that doesn't work you're wasting a lot of human potential a lot of people with ideas that can make the world a better place you also you you're stifling the debate and the discussion look there's a lot of people that think different than me man a lot of people whether they're uh from different parts of the world or whether they have different likes or dislikes and they have different art that they

77:10appreciate and I I like hearing their point of view there's a lot of people that I don't agree with what they're saying and I like to hear what they say there's radical feminists that I listen to their ideology and I listen to what they're saying and I try to figure out where the they're coming from I try to figure out okay is this a direct response to something they've experienced in their life like how much of this has to deal with them being persecuted how much of them has to how much of what people say has to do with their direct experiences with the opposite sex like when you look at a a bunch of feminists right and some of them have pink hair and they weigh 300 lb and you you know life was not awesome for them around men you just know it wasn't well how much of this anti-male sort of ideology that they're espousing like how much of that comes from their direct experiences with men

78:02and how different would it be if they grew up looking like Julia Roberts right I mean a lot there there's a there's a really good um one of the things I do with my podcast the Brian call show now is I do wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute you have a podcast I have a I have I have the fighter and the kid wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute yeah you've brought back the Brian K show I have I do it once a week and I talk about a book know about this I I sent you I sent you one of them just for you to listen to cuz I did it with this guy hunter I don't listen to just tell you right now I sent it to you you're like whatever but it was super busy we had an I'm very very busy but I had an amazing conversation with my buddy hunter that amazing like you can't believe it happened or it was good my buddy Hunter is really good at reading

78:45everything and putting it into context where I can understand it you know what I mean like he he can put it he can create a useful he can turn it into a useful you know what I mean like you can read a bunch of books but don't how to put it together this can put it all together and contextualize it and everything else and we we read this book we'll read a book and then talk about it so we read this book called The Secret of uh their success The Secret of our success by Joseph Henrik and the book is the the theme of the book is basically this and it's to your point human beings are smart because they borrow culture human beings are smart because they have societies that Excel have to be open and have to be open enough so that they can borrow the best things from other cultures so for example if you and I are put in the middle of the Arctic we're going to f

79:31unless we find a bunch of Inuit we're dead in about three days you know if you and I are in the Amazon if you take an innuit who can kickass and find seal meat and everything else and put him in the Amazon he doesn't know he doesn't have the culture human beings survive and grow and Excel because we are really good at learning from each other borrowing ideas it's called the diffusion of innovation we we are that that's the most important thing and when you have societies that have these strong rules and these strong ideologies that keep people essentially restricted you are not going to have the free flow exchange of ideas look at for example mixed martial arts think about where martial arts has come once the Ultimate Fighting Championship and the Gracies created this crazy thing where everybody got to fight everybody else pretty soon everybody starts sharing secrets

80:25everybody starts to kind of like go this works this doesn't work and you were putting it in an arena where you were actually it was just a very open placeing ground it was a proven ground and you could borrow ideas and people are look at what they're doing now they're borrowing coaches here IDE submissions and kickboxing and all that stuff that's how societies that's how Innovation happens that's the best way to get ideas to move forward and again the problem with what this sort of countries that are restrictive like Russia like Saudi Arabia with these strong sort of either cultures of power or cultures of religion is that they create um a very very it's a very difficult atmosphere not only not only to be open with your ideas but but to benefit from your ideas you are not going to start a company like apple in Russia when you know that the government like Putin or whoever is could could

81:20take it anytime they want where would be the incentive of that I'm going to work for 20 buddies with pu then you might be able to pull it off but you never do it in Saud Arabia now it's an economy of influence not a meritocracy let me ask you this because this is a kind of an interesting thought that's going through my head do you think that one of the the things that's going on today that just really wasn't going on I mean in the 70s you had the Iran hostage crisis with Jimmy Carter and all that jazz but if you really go back and think about what that was all about and if you really look at the The History of the United States intervent men in the Middle East it was really about controlling resources controlling natural resour also controlling Soviet influence yeah controlling Soviet influence but that was also about resources too because they were trying

82:04to the mujahadin they were trying to control Afghanistan and they wanted to get the natural gas pipelines and there's there's a lot of it to that deals with monopolizing natural resources and the amount of money that you can get from there and then also the amount of natural resources that could be used to strengthen military you know regimes there there's there's a lot of control issues in in that but you didn't have the kind of terrorist activity that you're having today which also coincides with the freedom and expression of ideas and information at an unprecedented rate that we're all experiencing today in the areas where this is not true the areas where the freedom of expression and the tolerance of ideas I mean if you look at the United States there's some some nonsense that's going on today with political correctness and there's some complete the the left that's taken so

82:56far left that it almost becomes right because they're just completely so not just controlling but so so infatuated with the idea of enforcing their version of what equality is equality is and what life is on everybody else that it becomes this like tyrannical very tyrannical but point is this is the this is the the West I mean this is is where we are we are in the the real Marketplace of ideas this is the boiling point of all these ideas where things are changing at this radical rate and this is the world that is also being attacked and really being opposed by this completely constricted world that really doesn't feel like it has a chance like this world is trying desperately to cling to these old ways I mean if you look at look what Isis is they are desperately trying trying to cling to these ancient religious ideologies that were established in in a way that does

84:02not allow for the even exchange of ideas and information and this this new way of but this is also this new way is also attached of course to the military-industrial complex it's also attached to the the idea that there's hundreds of different different military bases in hundreds of different countries where we're in control of massive amounts of always has been though but it hasn't been in you know terrorism by the way in the 70s and remember being in Rome airport they had plenty of guys with machine guns because of the red Brigade there was Communist terrorism there was Palestinian terrorism back then a great deal killed the people the Olympics Munich yeah there was always terrorism there but a much smaller scale than today much smaller I don't know about that I don't know if that's I don't know if that's true because terrorism was uh terrorism there was

84:50never anything like Isis before no there wasn't there was thing and I I but this really powerful but I have to stop you what because because when you say there wasn't anything like Isis you're right but for example in Indonesia which was uh essentially an American Ally uh IND Indonesia had I just lost my app take a look at how many people in one year died during the Communist Purge and I think it was 1965 by many many accounts the uh there were probably 1 million people most of whom were sort of Tak the Commando oxy they were the sort of Civilian conscripts at the military kind of recruited and said find us the Communists in your Villages and they were marched down to the river they had their heads chopped off and by many accounts almost a million quote unquote Communists in a period of about a year in Indonesia were slaughtered let's take uh the these are all related but my my

85:55but my point is what I'm trying to get at is I wonder if what is going on now is almost the same thing that's going on with like a two-party system it's an Us Versus Them thing but it's combined with the US which is this what's going on in the western world I mean obviously the Western world has plenty of problems but one thing the Western world has pretty clearly is the even exchange of information and ideas you might not agree with these ideas and you might then that's there's a problem with that as well but but access to them you have access to them and this access is like well this one of the things that's going on with Twitter and I don't know if you know about this but Milo Yus you know who he is he Gotan he got banned from Twitter for writing a bad review about Ghostbusters which essentially confirms what he said about the regressive left is that they're trying to stifle ideas

86:44like and then they're saying that he's responsible for the harassment of Leslie Jones right which is horrible you know what people did she's a comedian she's great she's great she's funny as man um but also this are just trolls all right you're always going to have Trolls but he didn't do that he didn't he's not responsible for he didn't like sick he wasn't the Catalyst or the yeah but what he did was make an incredible amount of sense when he was describing that you cannot make fun of this movie you cannot criticize this movie if you do you're labeled a misogynist and he talked about how Preposterous this movie is that these women are all out kicking ass and every man in the movie is a buffoon and the women don't have any negative traits or qualities at all they're they're they're super powerful and super awesome and hilarious and the the humor is non-existent because they put them in

87:34this restrictive box he got banned from Twitter for that banned from Twitter for this you you well they they're blaming him on the harassment that Leslie experienced he incited the well they didn't excite incite anything he he made a provocative article about a piece of art and that's what that movie is a piece of art so they are they are guilty of of censorship in the in the worst way well what they're doing is they're stifling ideas they don't agree with and they've they've decided that I mean Twitter established some weird thing called the trust and Security Council or something like that and they brought on all these social Dr Justice War Jamie look that up what the is that called that they tried to do but they brought on all these people for this sounds like ma China it Jesus Christ it's very very bizar control it is thought control well look I'm a against harassment if you can stop

88:26people from being shitty to people and you say well here's someone who's using Twitter and they're going after people in a very shitty way but the problem with that is look at how many people have made shitty horrible evil comments about police officers all Police Officers Trust and Safety Council when it comes to safety everyone plays a role please make that larger so I can read it Twitter empowers Twitter empowers every voice to shape the world but you can't do that unless you feel safe and confident enough to express yourself freely and connect with the world around you to help give your voice more power Twitter does not tolerate Behavior intended to harass intimidate or use fear to silence another user's voice very general by the way list not General that is so now you have a councel that is deciding whether or not you're good enough for Twitter that's

89:20pretty well you know the first thing they did with him they couldn't figure out what to do with him they they took away his verification wow what what what does that have to do with what is that he's not verified anymore they took away his little blue check it's very dangerous it's a very dangerous uh slippery slope but we see this in our universties when they you do exactly the same thing when they did that he gained 20,000 new followers immediately wow because there was a a massive backlash so now they're in a place where there's even more backlash because if you look at the actual words that he typed versus what they're accusing him of and it just doesn't doesn't stack up it's clear that they don't like him because he's a republican he's a trump supporter he and he is a troll I love him I think he's hilarious he's a troll but in the marketplace of ideas you should be able

90:08to combat his trolling Behavior the things without a gag without gagging him without gagging engage him engage him in a debate in a vigorous spirited debate don't gag the guy right if you really feel like he has done something egregious he's done something that can be criticized criticize it that's right and if he's actually harassing people if he's actually saying hey go find Leslie Jones and and throw dog at her or do something horrible to her or slash her tires or something like that he's actually doing something like that yeah then you know then he's doing then's where that's where the you don't get up in a Crowd movie theater and scream fire because you'll create a stampede right exactly you know Maya Angela talked about that when she said where Kuku Clan was saying we have a freedom of speech and my Angela said your freedom ends your freedom of speech can end when

91:01you're literally telling people to hang me yes because you know and you're telling a mob and I'm standing right there that that inciting them that's that's probably where you know we should take a look at things I mean and we all know we all know the line we all know about no I'm saying I'm saying that that there is something called common decency and you know people like to jump to these extremes but it's not it doesn't inform the debate I think what you're saying is so important and then the idea that you've got to create safe haven for those that you agree with and disagree with I disagree with Milo all the time I mean he and I are friends and I've had him on the podcast twice and when we talk I mock him we have fun I mean but he's a good guy but he's just really rightwing I also think his trolling is so sophisticated and he's one of the ones that was saying that he believes that

91:50Melania how do you say her name Trum Melania is that her yeah he thinks that they did that on purpose he thinks Trump is a master Troll and he thinks that the plagiarism was on purpose because now more people are talking about it and then more people are I I don't know if that's true but I think it's hilarious that did you know that his tweet Trump's tweet that he put out to congratulate his wife for speaking is exactly verbatim the same tweet that Obama put out to congratulate his wife for speaking interesting exactly wow every single word in the exact same order wow yes oh that's that's pretty calculated I don't know I don't think he writes his own tweets that apparently wasn't true is it fake I think that was like photoshopped oh those they got me oh that was the other thing they did I'm sorry about that folks um there's another thing that they did with

92:49the Leslie Jones which she was really upset is that trolls were taking words um and putting them like they were taking a Photoshop and making her like her name like what she had you know her her Twitter name and then writing horrible about gay people Jes and then putting it in there Jesus but Leslie Jones and again I love her I think she's really funny she said some kind of up things on on Twitter herself and you know things that can be construed as racist one of the things she said like about white people being white people like something like that it was on on Breitbart see if you could You' find the actual uh things that they were they were saying that like how could Leslie Jones get away with saying this but Milo gets banned for writing an article and I'm not but I think what Leslie said like white people it could have been that she was saying like someone did

93:45something and God damn white people this is some white people's yeah you know like she's funny like when people climb into a zoo and try to hug a tiger that's white people that's white people that's funny though and Leslie anybody who knows Leslie knows she's she's a great she's just a doll Lord have mercy white people what does that mean though it's white people like they do crazy stuff I know I mean what does that mean like why did she say that like what is that about imagine a white person look at this imagine a white person saying that about black people I understand but I think you know we've heard this before we it's fine Leslie Jones is not a racist Leslie Jones is never been anything but really kind to people around her okay but hold on a second because sometimes people say things that are racist and they're not racist they're just trying to be funny

94:31yes like you know I mean how we're all too sensitive sometimes about Jeff Ross is hilarious and he says a lot of racial stuff when he people Sarah Silverman but Jeff Ross in particular because he's really good at roasting people and a lot of the stuff that he says like you know he crosses what some people would say is a line but what is he doing he's being funny there is there is a difference so a lot of times if you're Hispanic um if you're you know if you're from a marginalized group you can get away with it you can get away with it because you you all share in a common um experience of repression right so like gay people can mock straight people like go ahead mock me for like and who cares that's what I mean because we don't we've never had to pay a price for that kind of Oppression we haven't not physically and not not economically that's not true because we've been

95:22oppressed for being straight forever it's it's a constant thing people are just so mad that we're not you're such a breeder breeder what are you out there making babies exactly those Otto and George had a great line you know you Otto and George if you don't know Otto was this great hilarious comedian who had a puppet named George and his puppet was evil and these bushy eyebrows and the puppet would say these up things and OT would go ah I can't believe you're saying that like what the hell and the the the pupp would say he goes I don't understand where all these queers are coming from for a group of people that can't breed where the are they all coming from it's like you had to like he'd say like purposely ignorant as his puppet yeah well you know a lot of times all of us think outrageous thoughts we think Prejudice thoughts it's part of being a human being man you know well

96:16there's a a friend of mine who is dealing with um these uh folks that are Jewish that are incredibly cheap and uh this friend of mine was saying like how embarrassing is it when someone just reenacts the most disgusting stereotype about a race like a Chinese guy that just closes his eyes and just drives straight into traffic like this horrible stereotypes that like when you see them like oh come on man if I was Chinese and I saw someone driving like that I'd be like you do you know what I'm dealing with here just being CH like if there's an accident and I'm involved people go oh of course the Asian guy got a car accident well do you know do you know what donar's principle is yes yeah and that's we have a limited number of people we can keep within our heads right right but that also plays a part in stereotyping there's a limited amount of information that we can kind

97:11of like keep in our heads so actually stereotyping was something that kept us safe you're talking about when you talk about stereotyping what you're really talking about is pattern recognition and chunking information right you're looking at something because you don't have a lot of time you're looking at a dude it's like Dove David off's joke about you know he said he was sitting there and he and this guy walked up to him he's already done this joke so I'm not selling I'm not I'm not ruining it but he said you know look we assume things all the time you know he goes I saw this guy with teardrop tattoos he had a knife and I was like I don't want to stay I don't want to hang around here and the girl goes don't assume he could be a chef I'm like that's fine he could be a chef but if you pull your pants down and and you got a bunch of blisters and your genitals I'm not going to

97:52assume you got stung by a pack of bees you know at the end of the day you do stereotype you make choices based on how you you know what the information you get and you do it very quickly because sometimes that information can keep you safe a cop a lot of times when they see they they can tell if somebody shouldn't be somewhere because they'll look for certain things out ofate plates fast food wrappers that person's driving and they're on their way somewhere there are lots of different little signals that cause you to profile cuz sometimes profiling is what's called good police work um we all do it we all we all when I'm driving and I see a dude in his car and I see the back of his head I can make a lot of assumptions on how he's driving and whether or not he's going to Signal like an old dude with a hat do it all the time I do it all the time and I I got to speed by this guy

98:39yep I got beat my horn before I go by because he might just swerve in because he's a dummy you know what I'm saying so some of this is just being a human being and again it's how our minds work and we probably all share very similar thought patterns with even our enemies or even the people we don't like right but being like being a Jewish person it's really cheap like super cheap but that comes from that's different isn't it no because that's characteristic the way I would look at it is this so I'd say you'd say a Jew that Jewish person is cheap right and I would say what I would look at is I'd say well hold on for a second if you've been a Jew you have a history and we can go back 3,500 years but let's just go back uh I know let's go back 2000 years you got a history of a lot of talk someone in their 20s no doesn't matter listen you got a lot of people blaming

99:30the Jews for killing Christ right and so usually if you look at history especially European history they were either kicked out or they were killed so what happens is if you don't have a Homeland if you don't have a Homeland then you're a Jew all right but they don't they have a Homeland no but yeah but that's very recent what is that 1948 yeah so so as a Jew when you actually don't have you know a country I'm just you know as an example guess what your security is your security at the end of the day is how thick your wallet is because money money is how you survived you know the reason that a lot of Jews the reason Jews were into the jewelry trade diamonds well diamonds are something you could pick up put in a pouch and run the away really quickly you could transport your wealth so they they were like well we're kept out of banking we're kept out of all

100:15these things but we can make clothing and we can and we're Jewelers and they came to this country those immigrants came to this country with those two skills the Irish came to this country with hey I got two hands I can work a farm what do you need me to do the Jews were like I uh I can make really nice clothes and I can label them and I can get you to think that they're even nicer because I understand a little bit about marketing oh and by the way I got diamonds there were there were certain things that they were forced into and they came to this country and they had a skill set so I look at that and I go oh that's just cultural residue that's just cultural residue you were taught that that's how you get ahead and you were taught that keeping holding on to your money is by the way also a way to ensure your survival so the more you learn about you know the more you learn about

101:01a people's history the more you learn about our biology the more we learn about brain science I think the more compassionate it makes us well that's also why a lot of people feel that some Asian folks are bad drivers because they're used to minding their own business not looking left and right and when they walk they walk straight ahead and they bump into each other all the time that's great that's great it great well of mine who Chinese was explaining this to me he's like if you go to China and you walk down the street he goes people just bounce off each other like bumper cars and he goes and it's not offensive it's just what they're doing they're not doing it on purpose it's just like when you're dealing with billions of people like this is how you do it you just you got just got to plow forward have you ever seen intersections in China yes you ever seen videos of intersections it's

101:44terrifying it's Insanity it's terrifying chaos it's ants it Italy was terrifying Italy was they drive like Savages in Italy I mean Ian there's there's roundabouts we're walking we're driving into the roundabout we're like oh Jesus and the driver just like skillfully Maneuvers around this but like look at this look at this Madness aming but they figure it out look they left they right they they Zoom around each other they're driving slowly and they're all making their own so at 25 milph they say anything below 25 milph human beings are very good at navigating yeah you know that's a good example and this is kind of a weird overhead view but I love it though this is this is actually man but I've seen some that just doesn't look manageable you also see people die in those intersections yeah well how about the people that are walking they just walk across the street

102:32and pray that people avoid them yeah like oh God damn it yeah I mean there's a lot of cultures that have their own little thing that they do to sort of deal with the numbers that they're dealing with and you know you see that in America too one of the things that I really like about small towns when I go to a small like I was in Boseman Montana recently there's only 35,000 residents in Boseman Montana it's a great town and everybody drives really nice everybody's like super chill yeah there's not that many people yeah see people like real easygo let everybody and I realize like what were you're dealing with in Los Angeles like I felt it the moment I got off the plane when I went from Montana to here the moment you get here you're like you gotta go Gotta Go cut this guy off get ahead gotta ahead like there's a a feeling in the air and they did a study and one of the things

103:26that they did this study on was they put up cameras in cities and they measured the amount of footsteps that people take like how quickly they walk and then they measured how how many syllables people say in a minute how quickly they talk and through those two numbers they were able to accurately estimate how many people lived in that City down to like a thousand God I love that stuff yeah a to people people walk faster and they talk faster if you have less people they slow down well Gail Collins who's a colonist in New York Times always says that right-wing and leftwing people she goes It's all about space when you're uh when you're you become more of a socialist when you have to contend with all your neighbors so you live in a building and and you it requires cooperation it requires waiting in line it requires all these things when you live in Bosman Montana and you have you

104:19know all that space you can preach selfreliance you can sort of talk about the value of you know sovereignity personal sovereignity self-reliance and all that stuff so it does play a real factor in your psychology it's like yeah no go ahead go ahead no I was going to say Malcolm Gladwell in his book uh he said uh when I think it was blink where you mentioned um when people would come to his office and if you mentioned Florida raisins and orange juice people left the room a lot slower do you know why why because they thought of old people and retirement whoa and so it played a factor in their gate they left the they left the office they walk down the aisle well they walk down the hallway more measured because they they you put the idea of an old person in their brain well that's and what I was going to say is this is where the role of colleges are very interesting

105:16cuz colleges sort of throw a monkey wrench into that cuz colleges take a small town and turn it very liberal which ordinarily would not be that way you're dealing with small rural environments you usually deal with conservative populations that are Christian and you know they're into you know Republican sort of ideas well there's also something else about liberal towns they're little small liberal towns that you're talking about I don't think they turn them liberal what they really do is they take away any existential threat for the most part they make those towns super safe there are a lot of rules that would penalize anybody for example young men for misbehaving by punching each other in the face or imposing their aggression on a weaker group of people I think that's also what how I characterize a liberal small academic town they are safe for the most part safe environments for you

106:07to figure the world out and express yourself do you know what I'm saying about that yeah yeah safer like Boulder is a good example of that exactly yeah bould blood sugar sort of you know yeah yeah well there not I would say low blood sugar because there's a lot of like Fitness going on there Boulder's one of the fittest towns in the world like per capita like a lot of people have low body fat they're hiking all the time good people and they're in a fantastic environment like as far as like the the the natural beauty of the land around them and they take advantage of it they're always hiking and biking and but but you don't have to worry about things like you know a shootout and like my friend who grew up in the hood said that he would he knew he knew when something was about to happen and I said what do you mean he said the air changed and your friend might be an idiot no no

106:55no he said he said he no he said he said because what happens is in all fairness a lot of your friends are idiots no no he he grew up in the hood and he said he had a lot of his friends killed gu no no black guy he had a lot of his friends killed and he said what I would notice and everybody would notice is that when a shootout was about to happen or or a fight was about to break out he said there was almost like this like whatever it was imagined or not there would be this Calm before the storm the air would change things would settle and then boom something would happen and he said everybody felt that he said because we were talking about how my friend walked through the Savannah with his wife who grew up in Kenya and his wife knew everything about it she was like don't worry about the lion she knew everything she knew animal behavior until she saw

107:37what animal what guas hyenas no people no monkeys water buffalo oo and she looked at her husband and she said climb that tree right now and he said I knew when she told me to climb the tree cuz there were lions and she said don't worry when she said climb the tree I climbed that tree cuz it was a water buffalo she knew her environment and just like he he would walk through the hood he was safe he knew he knew how to navigate but he also knew when something was about to happen there's a great Jim shaki show Jim shaki's this really famous conservationist and big game hunter from Canada really interesting guy but he's got this great show called Uncharted and uh it's kind of a hunting show but not really it's more of an exploration of culture cuz he travels to all these different countries and he really like gets deep ly embedded in their country and in their culture

108:25and it goes to these strange lands in the middle of nowhere in Russia and or in Soviet Union former Soviet Union um and uh he he spent a lot of time in Africa as well like he's done a bunch of shows in Africa like U they actually brought him in to kill crocodiles that were killing people in this Village Dam and the people in the village man it was horrific you would you would they would go through this village with cameras and people would be showing like this guy's missing an arm this guy's missing a leg this guy has a bite taken out of his head like everyone all these everyone knew get their water down there yeah everybody knew while they were there while they were there filming this a woman got taken away by a crocodile I mean it's just a constant compl thre terrifying and they were not scared of anything like they were scared of buffalos those Cape buffalos

109:12water buffalos they're like these goddamn things these grass eating monsters yeah because they have to fight lions all the time so they're just they they and they fight lions and they're just jacked to the tits I mean if you look at them you're like what is that thing eating it must be eating like steroids don't they weigh 3,000 lb they're enormous they're enormous they're huge huge lions are the biggest cuz they'll eat their balls while they're on them they take their T the balls first thing they eat is their balls in their dick really yep cuz they're behind them so you got one on your back and then they're like go for the ball well it's probably easy to tear loose right it's a good good bite good old it sucks being a water buff oh sucks being a Ling too man yeah it does that running around killing with your face all day that's all you can do you don't have a store you don't

109:59have a credit card nature is brutal nature is brutal we've we've human beings have always it's been a constant war against nature actually it's always been how do you harness nature how do you chain it pretty much every animal that exists every animal that exists is in a even lions or in a constant war with other lions like their reign of terror is so insanely brief they got a coup years where they run the pride and then some new lion comes along and kills them yeah even like bites them so up that they have they're forced to leave even great whites great whites they played uh they had they this guy uh Paul De geldo did our podcast feran kid and he uh he ended up uh losing his arm and his hand and his leg to a bull shark in Sydney Bay in Sydney Bay he goes to punch the Shar bull sharks are brutal yeah he goes to punch the shark and he goes oh I don't have a hand left and then almost died

110:50and all that but um he was what does he have on his arm now does he have prosthesis yeah this amazing prosthesis which can close and is it a carbon fiber one I think so it's like $90,000 W and uh and but he was a Australian Navy SEAL Jack dude you know like a handsome guy and just you know there he was lost his arm and leg but um he was talking about how um uh they played they had there was an area where all these great whites I guess bull sharks and stuff and they played uh the sound of orcas they played the sound of they make when they're hunting oh Jes and they said that sharks didn't come near that area for 6 months they were just like see you I'm out of here and then what hunts them us yeah we up the orcas yeah it's it's it's it's a constant battle and it always has been and I always wonder like is that battle I mean it's sort of necessary it seems like with the natural world I mean

111:48obviously we're striving towards some higher state of existence everyone is I mean think that's where Buddhists come from and meditation comes from and veganism comes from and meat that doesn't have a central nervous utopian ideologies and all these thoughts about what we're trying to do is whether misguided or not we're we're trying to strive towards Improvement and that that is the state of life and it's also the state of nature I mean there's there has to be some sort of a balance of power with with animals that are herbivores and animals that are carnivores like they're talking about bringing in cougars on the east coast of the United States to deal with because they have too many deer they have too many deer yeah you know and um it's a really fascinating subject because it's a better idea than bringing in wolves well wolves are very hard to they they tend

112:41to be wholesale with their Slaughter right not only that they do a lot of fun killing mhm they like to fun kill yeah they they do what they call surplus hunting that video I showed you where shot that deer in London England like an hour deer in London an hour and a half outside an hour outside of London you're hunting in someone's yard well my buddy owns this giant my buddy you know he made a lot of money he said I said where's your property and he goes well can you see down there I go I look he goes and can you look that way basically as far as I looked it was all his and he said by law he needs to kill 21 deer a year on his property because they deer are such a problem you know because there are no natural Predators there's another thing they they've found out today there's an article today there was always these um these myths about mountain lions being loose in England on

113:30the countryside really yeahuh it turns out it's true it turns out it came from a zoo that just admitted recently that they released these Pumas wow and they released these Mountain lines that they had in captivity so the people had like they you know they had been ridiculed like oh someone took away a big cat took away my sheep oh this motherfucker's drinking no they they were telling the truth these lines were released in the 1980s that's amazing in the countryside in England damn yeah crazy live in all that Forest well if as long as here it goes the Beast of dartmore does how you say it dartmore mystery solved is Zoo admits it released Pumas into the wild in the 1980s so it was that was one of those things I think it was on that show Monster Quest where they were trying to fig look how they're amazing man they're amazing and you know my my buddy has a a 70 lb

114:24or 75 lb German Shepherd like a bite train that you know it's a complete badass dog and I was looking at it and if you look at the size of that thing's head it maybe 75 lbs doesn't look like much good luck fighting that thing off i' I've seen that thing hit a sleeve and it's it's horrific how powerful they are mountain lines get up to what 150 lbs they can get bigger than that twice that size it's rare but also they're cats and cats are just way more agile I got a great story about Mountain lies a friend of mine is a a guide an elk hunting guide in Colorado and he said that they found these tracks of this mountain line they have to kill a certain amount of Mount lines on their property because they have this gigantic Ranch and you know they just they they have a certain amount of tags that they have to fill or they they should fill and um so you know

115:11they try to control the populations of mountain lines so they were trying to find this mountain line they're tracking this mountain line they track these tracks and they saw elk tracks and they saw Mountain line tracks and then they saw only elk tracks o because the mount line had jumped on the back of this gigantic 900lb bull elk and rode it for 150 yards and then taken it down damn so this 150 lb cat who they wound up killing had killed this you know close to a,b Elk that is unreal man but when they found it the mountainline was on the elk and the elk was down and then you know they followed the tracks of this elk running with this cat on its back the thing just leaped imagine being something like a person you know you weigh 170 lb yeah like like a cat a cat and you decide oh I'm going to jump on that thousand lb horse and kill it with my face yeah and their canines have

116:10sensors apparently where they can sense where the jugular is so they keep adjusting their grip oh God good God man well it's nature man nature is just so creepy and it's it's ways of adjusting my friend Andreas Antonopoulos uh my my friend the Bitcoin expert explained this to me last weekend in Vegas ducks have three foot long dicks that curl and twist because the the female vaginas have adapted to fight off rape duck rape yeah so they have these that are the these labyrinths these twisty turny Labyrinth and they can choose to let sperm in or not let sperm in with their gigantic Labyrinth and these three foot long duck dicks when you see a duck's dick you're like that is not real look at that Duck's dick that's a draw that's a drawing but there's actual photograph that's an actual photograph of a duck dick what in the that's like a person with like a 15t long dick yeah

117:18ducks are tiny man of course true dick like a person with a three- foot dick is a Monster yeah but a duck with a three foot long dick is totally standard that's a dick that's a limp one that's a real dick that's a guy's a little little dick he gets shamed by the other Ducks poor guy yeah I mean duck dicks are ridiculous they are it's a ridiculous animal what a what crazy I knew that ducks I knew that ducks engaged in rape or gang rape oh that's all they do that's the only way they they gang up on one look how look how the the female's vagina has sort of adapted to deal with the male raping us they created these bizarre Pathways in their when when you when you listen to Dan Carlin's uh Wrath of the cons or you read history you know and it was always uh here we come we're knocking down your walls and we're selling everybody into slavery history is a is a a history of rape right so

118:10most women basically were like ah walls are coming down we're about to our men are going to be killed we're going to be we're going to be raped I mean it just happened over and over and over I would imagine that most of history is a story like that and women were basically just forced to be taken by you know either a group of men or whatever just like most of animal history yeah yeah it's really really it's it's just brutal it's really interesting how how I guess women had to adapt and and evolve and and and this woman wrote an article and I can't remember her name because it was pretty controversial and she said that because you know so much of History women had no choice they were forced upon by men uh one of two things happened first they had to find the man who was the most aggressive and strong who could protect them from the other men so for women to be attracted to

119:01aggression and strength is not so uncommon but the other really controversial thing she said was that there are cases where women are turned on by aggressive sex you know being held down or all that stuff and it's probably the fact that they had to evolve because otherwise they' get injured if they didn't get lubricated you know it's kind of like I read that I was like well good luck with that but that was you know she was a female Anthropologist I can't remember her name but I was like well boy that if can you imagine coming out with that article and and that's my this is my thesis for uh in anthropology in Amherst College everybody I mean well it's a very objective thought process I mean there's there's Evolution it's just Evolution well it's it's it's called evolving yeah and dealing with aggression the way the Ducks did well and also dealing with the natural world

119:51that you find yourself in which is just filled with danger and murder and constant Warfare I mean that's that's what people did that's all people I mean there was states of Peace interrupted by War yeah and states of peace I mean gask Khan killed and his his children and his armies killed 10% of the population of the world during his lifetime amazing there's a New York Times article they wrote where they were saying that he altered the carbon footprint of human beings on earth a measurable altering of the carbon footprint cuz they had killed so many people like you could measure the difference in the amount of people that were there before him and after him yeah by core samples yeah like well you know I mean Hitler did something similar in the Russian Countryside he killed entire Villages because he was trying to clear an area for you know sort of the

120:43migration of the German peoples the idea that you know let's get rid of these sort of people that think and talk differently and let's create a a Utopia well with what gas Khan did that was so up is he did it all before there was even guns yeah I mean they were doing it bows and arrows they killed somewhere somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 to 70 million people while he was alive well he he said I think what he said was really neat I never forgot he said the the Romans would create a wasteland and call it peace and to an extent the you know the the the Khan the gangas Khan did the same thing well not only that what's interesting is how history looks at them now that's one of the things that that Dan Carlin was talking about Carlin was talking about how people tend to look in the future they'll look at and he he was actually using it in in terms of like would

121:36people do this with the Nazis that they would when enough time has passed you can say well he cleared the road for trade to the east yeah yeah you what was the what was the Silver Lining in in massive genocide words very controversial but of course with everything it goes back to exactly what you were talking about where where when you come up in the ghetto you might just create Miles Davis I mean there's a lot of heartache and terrible things and from is the brightest flower that kind of stuff yeah and once there's enough time past then you can sort of look at it with this distance and you can kind of objectively look at it and go well you know here's the benefit of that here's the silver lineup where that doesn't really hold up though is if you look at where the bulk of innovation and uh art artistic expression on a high level came out of it came out of free

122:26societies I mean look at what Sparta Left Behind nothing and look at what Athens Left Behind sort of but Sparta left behind a deep history of Warriors mythy but nothing you can really hang your hat on in other words story and and uh talk about hardship and separating a child from his mother and all that stuff uh Gerard Butler 300 and kicking people into Wells but yes it it it's the there's a there's a mythology that a warrior ethos that you can you know kind of I'm a Spartan but but Athens the Acropolis and the writings of the philosophy the butt uh the idea of demos democracy demos the people these are these are ideas that still live on and were built upon you know uh look at look at in today's world the amount of innovation that's coming out of a peaceful society and a society that respects other people's ideas and a society that to for the most part um at

123:24least from a historical perspective gives a great deal of freedom and benefit to those that have the guts to come up with their own ideas well that's the interesting aspect about what the United States is as this experiment and self-government and what it is what what it started off as what it is currently is that this is the most recent of countries and it's also the one that has overwhelmingly the most Innovation the most artistic uh contributions we Pioneers there's so much that comes out of here in terms of comedy film I mean obviously the rest of the world has its contributions I'm not saying that United States is the best I mean Beatles came out of England there's a lot of amazing works of art that come out all over the world but this country is a hot bed of artistic expression by far and Innovation Yeah by far in a way the biggest and it's the most recent now the

124:20oldest country that we know of the cradle of civilization is the Middle East yeah Iraq and that's those are the townies of the world this is this is a thought that I've been bouncing around for a long time like this is the reason why those places are so up is because this The Echoes of savages The Echoes of these ancient people are still in this area it's so difficult like you got to get out of the town man you got to leave the town well but see the the great tragedy is that you know and they've done a lot of studies on why do some Nations why do some Nations fail and why do some Nations uh become prosperous and you can break it down into a number of things you can see the problem with the Middle East is for a thousand reasons we can get into and a lot of it was just foreign Invasion and and foreign meddling and stuff like that but how about genas Khan yes I mean who

125:09what he did to Baghdad in 1260 yeah well they say that to this day Baghdad maybe still hasn't recovered from them invading and kill they said that the rivers ran red with blood and ink black with in like all the amazing Works libraries burned and everything the Islamic scholars throughout history were like innovators they were like huge contributions math philosophy of course yeah and and and the a lot of people say that the Middle East has never even recovered has never quite recovered from that but you know there are so many important things for why a nation you know for example one is that your political parties that lose live to see another day that is very important when you lose an election in a lot of countries like the hardliners somebody said to me I said why are the hardliners in Iran such a pain in the ass he goes because if they lose they will die that's a very

126:04important thing to keep in mind so when you have power and your survival depends on holding on to power you're going to have a secret police that basically is pretty brutal when when they sniff any kind of insurrection this country is pretty amazing what's so unique about the United States is After the Revolutionary War after every Revolutionary War the country always breaks in Civil War always and the founding fathers had incredible restraint and wisdom to to allow the election after that war to go as it would they didn't resort to violence that's so unique in history but but our country and the UK and Australia and Canada and a couple other countries when you lose as a the democracy is built on the idea that when your political party loses you you live to see another day and fight on very important the other is property rights you need property rights

126:56the other is courts that mean something and the other is the scientific method you have to embrace the scientific method a society has to say that it's not about superstion this is not a theology let's let's base reality on what you can measure and what you can see that's those things are so important if you don't have those those Central principles as a through line if that's not the scaffolding of your Society you're not going to do you're just not going to do as well as a country like the United States you're not going to have people that innovate because there's no incentive there's no incentive in it you're not going to benefit from it you could get it stolen or you could be killed because you think differently or all those things well also you're not safe enough to innovate yeah you don't have the the ability to express yourself you don't have the ability to take chances yeah so

127:47the irony the ironic thing is when you're sensitive and nice to people when you're empath atic and when you're respectful of other people even the ones you don't you disagree with you make a stronger Society your Society is stronger in every way including militarily including you have more Innovation with milit with with with weaponry and on that note God I'm smart guys did you write that down amazing you want hear you have your own podcast I got more own podc and by the way I'm taking that podcast on the road with a guy named Brennan sha oh that's a different podcast oh no this is yeah yeah but let's talk about the fighter and kid for a second cuz brenen will beat me up if I don't talk about this July 29th July he hits me he strikes me with an open hand a he he pulls my pants down and spanks me and you know he could and I couldn't do anything about it and

128:31I've tried I've tried to fight him and it bothers me CU sometimes I get jumpy with him I get jumpy and I'll get underhooks on him he's a giant no no no he's he's weird he's weird ganty he he I tried I said you're kind of tiny dude don't use that word just say medium all right just say medium kind of medium I guess I said the other day I said I don't believe you could I I don't believe if we were to go take for take and I tried to do a little upper body Greco with them yeah and it didn't go well and I got so flustered and hurt I actually tweaked my neck that I left my wallet and my phone on my car I let I let brendon's brother drive my car and I yeah smash your phone uh yeah I we've been talking about that recently that I think that people have a massive o overestimation massive of what they can and can't do with their body and that's we we we hang around BR shop hang

129:18around Bron shop forget brenon shop we we play video of these people that put on these uh gigantic uh balloon suits and let Bulls hit them what you haven't seen this we we'll end on this it's insane that these people want to do this but I think people have this idea in their head oh the Bull's coming I'm going to be fine I just get out of the way you don't realize like they have they massively overestimate what they can and can't do with their body how they can move their body I got to say this by the way while we're watching this July 29th 30th Phoenix standup live we're there we still have some tickets left live fighter and the kid podcast show it's a show me and Brenan Shaw Brennan Shaw will be doing new stand up I'm very excited watch this so these look at this no yeah meanwhile their legs like say goodbye to your ACL look at this watch this boom boom holy cow I me these are

130:12massive massive animals Bulls are so mean and meanwhile they just eat grass he looks like he's not hurt I wonder if Bulls would be nicer if they had a steak wait wait for it though wait for it yeah because it gets worse like this guy he's like oh Jesus man this is up it's is just just started meanwhile people are laughing this is what people in rural environments do they laugh they oh man I would never boom look at the air that guy got the air that gentleman got oh my Lord yeah that guy is and he hit him again while he's out cold I mean that dude flew through the air flew oh what about your legs Bro One More Time Boom exactly well it seems like that bulll doesn't have horns they probably saw their horns off God but whatever that's not saving you I I might have to do that but I don't have the guts no you shouldn't do that well there's other ones this is one that we looked at they

131:08figured out a way to do it better okay and the better one is a much larger ball where you're completely encasing the ball better you're legs you can't have it from your ways down because your legs are like super flexible or uh super I don't want my my knees getting broken by a bull's head and they will get broken by a Bull's Head they'll get mangled see if you find the one yeah you got the other one there's you don't okay there well there's there's other videos of them doing it where they fig well this is this not safe enough we got to get a much larger ball much lar hear the people in the audience that's what happens when you get a bunch of farmers and they're drunk and they just wind up each other on the sneake tip well I don't know if they keep each other Fu each other like crazy those people there's no one around there's like 30 people in the town they're all each other's

131:53wives of snaking around hey you I don't think your husband's a true Christian you know uh I just see the way he talks to you and just makes me feel terrible about it oh I don't feel can you rub my neck next you know you kids got red hair no that's come oh God I don't that I don't make that noise when I come I just go a lot of now I'm like you're welcome this is for you you've earned it a a I fart and come at the same time take it my nectar yeah okay um all right guys good night everybody Phoenix live see you 29th and 30th Brian K brenon shop b r y anen there probably some pretending to be Brian that's b r i a an is there an probably that bastard come come see me in oxnar too where you in Ox the new the new club Aug 4th and fth that's going to be great August 4th and 5th those opening for me's opening okay when what day August 4th and 5th can you um let me find out let me find out what

132:53I'm doing yeah it could be all right you see you soon bye bye