Ian McCall, Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen
Guests: Ian McCall, Brendan Schaub, Bryan Callen
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a we're live ladies and gentlemen uh this podcast will be Ms just uh prepare yourself as us if you're an MMA journalist put your uh get your weightlifting chalk on your hands chalk Up Get Ready Get Ready I'm I'm full of opinions everybody hit those keyboards this is essentially sort sort of a preview of uh this weekend's fights or really it's just a It's usually the plan to get together and around I was told it was a breakdown it could be a breakdown I was told a breakdown did youare I've studied all night for a breakdown I have my notes I was told this is a breakdown what what are your thoughts sir I'm glad you asked uh I'm going to go with uh ask me ask me well I'm gonna go with Nate Diaz now ask me why wow why well the way I look at it and correct me if I'm wrong Conor's boxed the Daylights out everybody who for the most part either has his reach
or small what he does is he hangs on the edge of the pocket he hangs on the edge of the pocket and he's a counter puncher waits till you commit slips and hits he's dealing with something very different with Nate which is that Nate is longer and taller and Nate doesn't have to do that and I wonder what he's goingon to have to do is either one of two things he's gonna have to weave and get inside or because Nate stands so you know flat I mean sort of uh squares up with you I guess he could back kick and front kick his his body but Connor doesn't kick like it's not when you think well watch out for Conor Conor's uh hard kicks you know what I mean so he actually kicks pretty good yeah he kicks he has very good kicks you also haven't seen much of him because he's smoking everyone he's murking everyone but Nate's a very durable guy too he spends a lot of time in those gyms with a lot
of those Mexican boxers that stand in the hole and just bang which isn't Connor it's not but I but I I wonder how Connor is going to actually have to change a little bit of his boxing and I'm curious to see how he does that well he's only fought one guy that's tall that's Max Holloway and he's coincidentally the one guy went to a decision with him he was also hurt in that fight he hurt his knee in that fight during the fight when he was passing the guard he blew out his ACL um so that definitely had a huge huge effect but I I I think that you make some good points I think uh dosan Jo showed a bit of the blueprint on how to beat Nate and one of the big things is that Nate stands real heavy on that front leg he comes in he fires that hard right jab and stands real heavy on that front leg and dos Sandos just that leg up he lit his legs up and because of
that boxing centered style I mean Nate will throw the occasional kick but primarily he fights boxing when he's when he's fighting his boxing's very good it is very sharp he he boxed up grey Maynard he boxed up Marcus Davis Michael Thompson Michael Johnson his last fight was one of his best fights unbeli Josh Thompson head kicked him and knocked him out that's right yeah that was a different um you know that was Josh Thompson man that dude's had a series of injuries but I still m main he's one of the best lightweights in the world especially when he's in Strike Force yeah well he's getting older that's the the issue is he's like 36 years old that's all it is yeah yeah I mean but do you think that that Conor's met anyone yet who's as good a boxer as Nate because Nate a good boxer definitely not maybe Max maybe Max right but Max back then was like it was two
two years ago plus Max was not as good as he is now confident I mean Max is on fire right now Max Hollow is on fire I'd like to see him and Conor fight now fight yeah see I don't know about that but I don't think that Conor really wants that 145 weight class anymore I mean he looks so big right now yeah he has it and I think I think at 55 fighting dos Angeles that's the fight at UFC do if he gets past n Diaz it actually is kind of interesting if he gets past Nate Diaz you know because it makes that fight bigger the fight at 200 it really makes it bigger up you know do Sandos broke his foot in the last minute of the last round of sparring uh he was going against a high level uh kickboxer and he checked the kick broke his foot we use the same masseuse and of course you know I get a text message like this happened exactly last minute last round kind of thing that's their thing though
that's their at Kings they go hard man that's why they're so good do they wear well it's like a shin pad so it's over it but when throw that hard and a a high Lev kick box is check in if you kick as hard as he doesn't you kick a tree you're gonna break your foot it's just is I I think we know what Nate Diaz is gonna bring to the table I think Connor knows I think everyone in this room knows what he's gonna do we don't know what Connor's really gonna do we really haven't seen all his tools man I think Diaz is the perfect matchup so he can showcase all his tools cuz Diaz isn't he's I don't think he's going to get merked in the first round we're going to see a lot of Conor and what he brings to the table well Connor's really good at lulling you with those kicks and then stepping in with that big left hand that left hand is just a monster punch oh man he just throws it's so
perfect and he's got so much power behind it but I'll tell you man it's hard to hit Nate Dan clean hard to hit him clean he's tall yeah he's slick he moves a lot you know it's it's hard because his his range is good he's also good at ducking under you know he's good at anticipating High here you know yeah it could be interesting I think man if Nate Diaz got to like a serious Muay Thai camp and really learned how to kick correctly and made more distance and then through the occasional takedown attempt in there you know I think with a lot of these guys one of the issues is they got a great formula and that formula is winning fights and it can it can carry them very far but is it the best strategy like the best strategy is the guy you're fighting it doesn't have any idea what the you're about to do that's the George St Pierre strategy George would just mix it
up so well and it was like one of his best assets he really didn't know what his attack was going to be with these guys like you know what their attack's going to be with Nate you know what his attack's going to be but it's a good attack it's a good attack but I think we're seeing a Changing of the Guard you're seeing these athletes like Luke rockold who's just a freak Conor McGregor these guys who can do it all so you have the old guard with you know I'm not I'm not hating on these guys but I was one of the old guards I like to uh you know wrestle box didn't do a lot of kickboxing do a lot of kicks you look at Rashad Evans really not a kickboxer good at wrestling good at box and we know he's going to bring to the table but crazy he's got a big head kick knockout and Sean salmon that was like one of his biggest real chaos for sure but but how long ago is that long time ago but you
would have thought that that would have been a more bigger part of his Arsenal agre he can do it he's athletic enough you look at a guy like Ryan Bader wrestler boxer so you have this Old Guard the new guys coming up man if you don't have it all good luck and they're and they're tossing these guys up who are phenomenal Fighters they have these huge uh you know fan base and stuff like that and they're they're giving it to these young athletic guys and good luck you know with with that with that skill set man it's I think it's this board is just still evolving and we're in the middle of it we're watching it happen but it's still just all over the place it's still like your weight class is a perfect example your weight class you cannot be onedimensional you cannot there's no one you can't do it it's not it's not an option there's no one who's onedimensional who's anywhere near the
top 10 well you have maybe out of the top five say formigas is the most onedimensional or cejudo yeah but are they really you know for meas this amazing ground guy but he tries to kickbox with everybody so hudo is the wrestler but he's trying to punch a hole in your head so his striking is not bad cejudo's striking is very very sharp very a little slow for the weight class but he's so strong and he does negate the Gap very well so I I think that uh he takes care of of his lack of speed but then you fight someone like Demetrius where everything is about speed so that's where I think he's still too slow to beat Demetrius it's going to be an interesting fight it's going to be a real interesting fight I mean you're talking about a guy who's Olympic gold medalist and wrestling and he's a with his mindset his mind I mean he's a winner so hudo is just a straight up winner straight up winner
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all those Olympic athletes that come out of the UFC they're all pretty successful man they think about them you got Dan Henderson uh DC cejudo obviously Ronda Rousey you got all just that Olympic mindset man the it it's Priceless yes it was like Hello everybody they're lucky the whole division is so lucky that he had a good wrestling colle a wrestling uh teaching gig coaching gig yeah they got a good offer oh if he well he didn't want him to they wouldn't let him fight in the UFC who was he Brigham Young I think that was what he was with and they they were like you can't fight in UFC you can't fight cage fighting while you're teaching wrestling not BYU son they're so lucky because if that got in there he everybody's on the back every single look y Romero but what's interesting about somebody like y Romero is that you've seen him get taken down he doesn't yeah he can take him
I'll just stand up I'll just stand up good luck holding me down with gay Jesus on my side gay Jesus on my side yeah the the way you hold him down is drug test him you want to hold him down go and drug test or put Jesus on top of let's be real yeah so screwed so screwed oh I know I don't mean to flip scripts there but how about bisbing Anderson Silva I was blowing your phone up during that BL you up first of all bisbing is one of the toughest men on the planet that dude has one eyeball okay got knocked out dead at the end of the third round came back one to Fourth what the how is that not talked about the guy's blind in one eye don't know that they he must be able to see something can see something but it's it's a because we were reading the teleprompter and he's it's difficult he it's like that eye is I guess at certain angles he's got to hold his eye a certain way
cuz it's kind of tunnel vision there's oil in it there's oil in his so he has to read the other eye of his eye yeah and that's to protect the retina to keep it in place is that the idea they can't attach it yet because if they attach it does it rip off again yeah if they attach it again it'll be more damaging soord he has to wait till he's after he's done fighting they can reattach so think about this he beat Anderson Silva with one eye oh and Anderson's a southpaw you how crazy is that crazy it's nuts man that flying beat him high that yeah right but flying knee that Anderson landed was goddamn glorious I mean it was the way he did it he jumps up with the front leg or with the right leg and then like there's almost like a pause in the air and then that back left knee comes he still had that he still had that ability to move like just kind of stare at you right
against the cage but he didn't it was weird when he was in the middle of the cage he didn't seem to want to throw it was so weird like you felt like he had bisbing like especially at the beginning of the fourth round he could have capitalized and he was hesitant he's 40 is that what it is he's 40 40y old man I don't know why we can't just chalk that up like he's just an older fighterman fighting natural and you know I mean bisbing was giving him a ton of saying you've been on steroids your whole career fair assumption we don't know if that's true or not true we just know the one time he was tested he got caught yeah that's so it's not like outlandish for bising to say that the one time out of competition testing he got caught who the knows man it's what's hilarious is when you look at his trainer and you go um purple man that guy's 70 I mean he's I think in his 60s and I'm not I think
he might be like 65 66 years old or something like that got dick veins at the side of his neck he's got more muscle than all of us together if we packed all our muscle together EAS he looks like a cluster of horsecocks with feet he's so big he's so big so um he's not natural okay so if he's not natural then Anderson knows about steroid he's heard of them he's familiar with them the guy who's teaching him how to lift weights and running him through his strength and conditioning program is got 10 years later yeah oh you know all these years you've been fighting this is stuff that I do it's probably not interesting for you for Recovery it makes you a super person super person it's a super person I know you're in a sport that's like if you you know if you your body moves better you don't get brain damage but that's not important this testing this testing is
super effective isn't it they're these guys Jeff no is a and he's not playing games he's trying to catch dudes he's showing up at your house at 6:00 in the morning and he's taking your piss go blood they they got me the other day before I came up here or no when I went to do danieli belli's podcast and they called me as I'm 10 minutes away 5 minutes away where are you what I'm in La I was like well you're at my gym just wait for me I'll come back after the show no no no we're coming to you The Blood Hound and they drove up to daniell's house yeah no to the where he does this this podcast wow they watched me do the podcast after tested me wow super nice people very you know Prof Prof but they're they're not they're testing for everything they test for weed and everything everything yeah but weed doesn't matter out of competition out of competition it doesn't matter so let me ask you this
nor does coke by the way that was the Jon Jones sit how fun boys so let me ask you this if if Nate Diaz if Nate Diaz short notice fight we let's take the word if out I know what you're gonna say so say smoking weed he beats Conor yeah I I'm I'm sure then he get flags it's a it's a DQ right it'd be no contest if I smoked weed if I smoked weed today the fight is uh in two day or three days right if I smoked weed today and the day of the fight I asked them would you test me I want to find out like what what the levels are I think I'd be okay I think you literally have to get high the day before or the day of with the new parameters oh really yeah well that's good then yeah it's it's way different it's way different it's way different than it used to be so you have to it's not like Trace they used to have Trace Amounts of THC but if I I really believe that if I smoke weat today and I ask
them to test me on Saturday I'd be okay yeah let's not smoke the day of the fight though huh well Nick Diaz apparently when was so tested so high that like this had to be high as when he fought G just just went out there who pulls off a goo Plata in MMA too amazing beautiful and after he got his cheek broken yeah he got hit with a bomb by ging when can Nate I mean when can Nick fight again about N9 months bisbing wants that fight they Chang it around they changed it around it was supposed to be 5 years and they made it at like a year and a half I think is that what they made it I think they made it 16 months way shorter yeah you know it be an interesting fight only because they fought before and Nick won surprised Nick isn't calling Robbie Lawler out well I don't think Nick's calling out anybody Nick's just chilling out and waiting for all this to settle he got railroaded man because
Nick passed two water tests the really deep comprehensive blood screens that they use for the Olympics he passed those with flying colors what he didn't pass is some ass Quest Diagnostics lab test that the Nevada State athletic commission uses super Shady super shady and these wouldn't even pay attention to the other two tests and they tried to ban them for five years that's insane they're man that vandelay Sila thing is another example asshle they're what they did to vanay banned him for life that's B vanay just signed with Bellator yep did he sign with Bellator he did he did today they're breaking news or some yep damn I didn't know that but here's the deal we talked this on the last podcast Kimbo wlay Silva well Vander has to fight Fedor first he's gonna fight Fedor first that's the big fight in Japan in Japan but the having that fight in Japan could throw his whole Bellator deal in
Jeopardy because he's going to have to fight on Indian casinos once he fights which at vander's AG is probably not the worst thing in the world anyway because let's go and Juice up there's some certain guys probably Lashley there's certain guys that only fight in certain places and they look ridiculously muscular now I don't know exactly how everything works for Brazil I know that well that's that's even more that's even more Lumbard Australia only please the um the thing is they don't have a Jeff nitzky at Bell they don't have a a hawk nor do they want one no they don't want one you don't want but aren't you deiss I don't want one the UFC what are we trying to do what are you trying to hey how dare you let's move on with our Liv you know what the but you're dealing with the commission right with the commission commission's easy oh the UFC enforced this not the commission
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yeah this is the the UFC's idea look the commission look it's a famous line that someone made up I don't know who it was but they said that passing one of those urine tests is an intelligence test it's not a drug test correct it might have been Victor kte might have been Victor K but he you know who's the ball guy who's if he anybody knows he knows so I think uh I think vanderlay well first of all I think they should vay's suspension should be exactly as long as it would have been if he got popped which I think is nine months at the time was it was it back then when he got caught was it nine months back back then it was nine months yeah if you nine months so he's good he should be done his suspension should be over F him a little bit and let's move on man the guy never tested positive once tested positive once never wow vanderlay never probably definitely did
something I mean you look at when he was fighting in Japan but Japan didn't have tests or they did have tests they didn't care you know they they I mean enen this is coming straight from enen anyway who said it was on his contract that said we will not test you for steroids and Enon enen is incapable of lying he does not lie he does Chuck Liddell talked about it he said he took a piss test and was like walking around like uh just put it on the back there just throw it in toilet he was like I'm not GNA set it on the table there's no one around like just wherever then don't a they just want to check check it out here's a Sharpie draw your name on it don't spell please just write negative on it yeah yeah put whatever you want man put whatever you want right healthy right healthy either way awesome to watch do not drink do not that's all you came back do not drink but you know man that
it was an it was everybody knew you know if you have a league where everybody knows that everybody else is doing whatever the they want that's a different thing it's not really cheating because it's not illegal over there it's not the same thing as over here yeah you just can't do that and be a legit sport you know you just can't baseball footb powerlifting excuse me powerlifting I'm I didn't hear you I'm get so much hate for this I'm talking about a mainstream sport bro don't ever ever ever comp power could you look at NBA strict drug testing right NFL MLB now it's super strict no home runs anymore what would people look like if bodybuilding and powerlifting if 100% it was legit across the board no steroids whatsoever knocking on your door every morning at 400 a.m. they would all look like look at the 60s all look like C in Speedos look no one would pay attention
right look at the' 60s bodybuilders and and powerlifters their legs especially the bodybuilders their legs are actually kind of small no they look good yeah like they look like normal they look healthy yeah they just all do this and they're in their high-waisted tights and they just but there's certain guys from the bodybuilding era of like Schwarzenegger that to this day they look small but yolked as like Frank Zayn yeah like Frank Zayn never looked like Lee Haney or any Dorian Yates or Coleman was three what 320 all there was a guy like 5'9 it's insane isn't Ronnie Coleman like I thought Ronnie Coleman was like six something 6'2 who is is which one is really short Dorian Yates I thought is Dorian pretty sure but back in the day like before they started doing a lot of steroids like uh well who did Pumping Iron gains the guy's last name is gains and I I
knew him and I spoke to him he said that was there was a black guy in featured in pumping iron and if I I can't remember his name but Albert beckles uh really muscular guy at one yeah he was eating 20 lounds of red meat a day what and that's how he was getting he was like lions eat a lot of meat so he was eating 20 Bro Science Lions godamn it literally the the other body he was shredded though he was shred yeah but you're not a liing AR you right the other body the other bodybuilders were like what he would eat rice gu like large quantities of rice and 20 lbs of red meat a day somebody needs to tell them the gorillas only eat broccoli yeah right right all they eat is go to the zoo they're eating stalks of broccoli and bamboo but their dick are this big so true true he was shredded in the in the he did you see his dick how big was it was it we dated for a little
wasn't big but it was tasty it was tasty D like a like a fru nut pump and iron those were the days cuz it was Arnold in Venice Beach Gold's Gym everywhere sling dick Franco Columbo was in my friend acting class that's right Franco Columbo was super short yeah that Franco Columbo used to be able to take one of those hot water bottles and his lungs were so strong that he would make it explode he would blow into it until it blew up a hot water bottle one of those rubber things a thick rubber he would boom yeah nobody else could do it or very few people could do it like what in the he'd do dips he would do dips with um two dudes hanging off his waist and he would do dips and how about let's grabb some weights wonder what he looks like today remember Platz remember yes Tom plats there's a you can see it on YouTube he's he's squats he deep squats 500 lb I think it was 25 times
dude those guys were doing it back then though roids lifting weights hanging out on the beach Venice a good time smoking weed banging chicks tons of chicks letting guys blow them so they have money for steroids good chance good chance arold was sucking we something was going on that was a big thing with those bodybuilders a big thing they're the original sugar babies I'm dead serious man sugar baby such a great word is it such a good sugar baby bodybuilders are the original sugar baby well you got to do what you got to do you ain't just going to lift and pay the bills be small or suck a dick you got two options you want muscle son come here come on you want to hang out with your boys on the beach you better suck this dick imagine if that steroids didn't work but sucking dick did be only way to Get Swole you had suck a dick call would be the biggest in the room damn right I
would they would change what's gay they would change it I'm not I'm not gay because I like dicks I'm just trying to get big no bro it's trying to blow up trying to get big trying to get big man do you remember when guys would take brewers yeast back in the day do you ever remember that oh dude I knew guys who would just always lifting they'd go check this out I'd be like what why would they take I don't know apparently brewers yeast makes you bigger or something that's not old school that's super old they sell it in pill form you don't remember that no not all godzz when when cuz you guys are older when steroids hit they didn't think it was as bad as it was right like uh who was it l oo was kind of the first one who's like oh I'm going to die because I use steroids but before it wasn't a big deal it's kind of like cigarettes right see L Alo I don't think it was because of that
I think what Lyle ala was doing he was doing an early form of human growth hormone I might be off base here J Jamie want to look this up was the first to say though but the early form of human growth hormone was taken from cadavers it wasn't take it wasn't made in a lab with bacteria the way they make growth hormone today in the early form of human growth hormone you would take it and there was like crazy adverse side effects like people got really leukemia and all kind you can get Jacob Crooks Feld you can get mad cow disease from it I get cyons from it you get all kinds of I think Al was saying that he was dying because of that and then scientists came out like n son I don't think it you had a brain tumor that's what it was well you know you also got to deal with the massive amount of trauma that guy football 30 years just hard hard bang who knows there's
all sorts of bad things that happen to your brain when you play football for 30 years I mean especially the way he did yeah football back then was different who knows why why he got brain but here's the thing not a lot of other guys that were doing what he did got brain tumors so it could have been completely unrelated you because don't they say human growth hormone from what I understand is so it's going to help grow everything that's good but also if you have a tumor it's going to help grow that it could it's potentially uh that is potentially a side effect you know that's why one of the things they say that's really important and if you if you do do that you got to get yourself scanned and if you're doing it like the way those guys are doing it where you're taking like 10 units a day you know they're taking massive that's why the bodybuild is so big and they have those
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those power guts where they have abs but it's guts yeah man yeah well they it it it's like these bulge muscles too that's the other thing like if you have those gigantic like Lee Haney ab muscles you got to think of his whole body everything's giant everything's giant so his ab muscles are giant too they they stick out also because they're huge and his organs org gr too right does it grow your dick apparently if you take if you do take massive amounts for long periods of time it can grow your organs larger but I think what we're looking at when you looking at those guys a lot of it is just massive muscle I agree it's with the the more Muslim we've ever seen because you look at Arnold even Arnold's like it's a different game man when I was doing was just is basically just steroids and now they're doing all these designer drugs they sweat non-stop I don't know if
you've H hung out with a current bodybuilder they sweat non their bodies const like man straight up dying they're always dying straight up dying that's Dorian and Lee Haney together Dorian Yates was very tall from what I understand wasn't he well if Lee Haney's 6 feet tall it looks like dorian's somewhere in the on him m a glorious he's an orange lion glorious M he's an orange he's Donald Trump he looks like Donald Trump if Donald dude isn't it isn't it weird how they turn bronze cuz black guys right they're like see every muscle so white dude like dude we got to get black the origin CH original like chocolate Face have you seen the guys really dark yeah they'll they'll be they'll have a white face and then paint the rest of them so dark they're straight black yeah like Jamaican yeah cuz they want they got to compete with the black guys yeah yeah to to just to show contrast show the
muscles black guys own bodybuild now do they own it now Phil Heath five-time uh Mr Olympia champion before that well it was Jake Cutler but then you had Ronnie Coleman for all those years Jackson I don't know how long you could do that for it to take that much steroids at that high level how long can what's the most eight I think eight is the most no six I think right how long did AR do it how many years did Arie win not long cuz AR was he was doing it right and then he just blew the up and went full celebrity was like you know what I'm going to quit lifting weights with you meet H and go make some money Phil Heath wants to do he wants to get 10 titles and then quit that's that sounds like a good number I was like yeah the problem with those guys is what do they do when it's over they showed um some of the guys from the old days that are still alive today and they get off
the sauce and their body just is just depressed kidneys are all wouldn't they have to keep doing it to to to fill the Gap in that their body they're going to have to do something some form of testosterone but the kidneys is from the wake is that what it is yeah the kidneys is not from steroids the kidneys is from the massive dehydration when you see those guys when they're standing on that scale or in that um not scale on that stage and they're posing they're down to like 3% body F close to death close to death they no water no carbs their bodies are just like shreded if you try and talk to one well when they're getting ready for that it's their brain barely functions cuz they're just so depleted they it's so dangerous man so dangerous well now they manipulate their insulin too they do all kinds of weird stuff yes that's dangerous did you see the new Pumping Iron no oh it's good
Generation Iron gener Generation Iron yeah yeah Netflix I'm sure yep with uh Kai green Kai green K green who is a giant he he's a giant gay uh body no no no he's not gay whoa whoa whoa bro siiv how dare you sorry Kai green is a guy when we're talking gay for pay the reason he doesn't win is out there of him grapefruits for money right or it might it might it might be a cantaloupe but he's doing some gay stuff he's like stripping for men gay porn didn't he guy no hey man why did you say that I feel like he no he didn't just's he's awesome he puts on a mask a doll mask and posed in subways he's amazing he's second he comes in second to Phil Heath every year and they think one of the reasons why he doesn't win is because he has this history of doing some promiscuous stuff with men like there there's a video of him stripping like shes the you from winning I can't yeah I guess
they let him compete they should let him win that's why the gays never win it comes in second that's rude look at his hair that that bun in the back of his head is adorable he's amazing maybe that's the offensive part I don't like is the hair yeah it's the oh look this what's going on there guys K green they're they're big rivals by the way from Phil Heath boy they are both enormous you know here's the problem when it gets down to this like these two guys how the do you decide who wins how could you even tell more they have a traine do you tell can you tell is it well you can because you're a good wine connoisseur it's like the same thing it's symmetry how do you know a great glass of wine like the tannin and the oky flavor it's a feeling it's a feeling I have I don't get how they do it either I don't get it's symmetry you're looking at muscle development you're also looking
at symmetry okay yeah but they all look like that but these two guys they're in different stages of the pose like the guy on the left his arms are further apart no not much but one chose that pose and the other chose see Phil Heath they do side by side poses right but see how Kai green forgot about his legs Phil said I'm going to open my legs a little bit look at those look at the leg mus look at that it's perfect it's insane he's perfectly proportional you know you know Phil played basketball in college and was 178 lbs point guard Jesus yep and he's got to be like 300 lb good good buddy of mine man from Denver yeah great guy yeah really well how long is he going to do this for said he said he wants 10 yeah this is his fifth he wants 10 so five more years and his body's like Jesus Christ dude making making that cheda though is he making cheddar for real yeah seven seven figures a year
how do they do that how do they make that because uh yeah so he he'll go to England he'll do all these big uh Pro AMS you know who knows but you know he'll do all these big Pro AMS and get paid Bank like over in Europe and in the Middle East bodybuilding's huge in Europe yeah huge way bigger than it is here that $250,000 to win 400 but then in sponsors he's making you know six seven figures gotting how much it jumped up for 2015 went from 250 to 275 to 400 he's also got he's got his own line he's got his own supplement line that I think that does pretty well yeah called gift and nutrition but I don't think it's I don't think that he's not making his money off that he's making money doing these torn goat like he gets done with Olympia and literally two days later he's flying to the Middle East he said he's gone 300 days the year always tring yeah nuts well seminars are
a big way for a lot of athletes to make money including MMA guys a lot of guys make a lot of their money A lot of Jiu-Jitsu guys make a lot of their moneyi Jitsu yeah especially jiujitsu is huge and Jiu-Jitsu is one of the few seminars where you could really get something out of it I agree you know if you go to see a mu Thai seminar you might learn a little bit luck I mean you could but a lot of people know a lot about Muay Thai Muay Thai is like repetition knowledge sparring great coaching over long periods of time but Jiu-Jitsu a guy could show you one technique and you could tap a guy set or something yeah it's pric one one eye openening thing you like woo I was watching your boy cyborg roll he was doing some drills the other day God damn that guy flows wo freak man he was doing this this roll from from controlling on top side control to the truck to the
back to you know taking like a collar choke from behind crazy how he moves oh my God he's doing Eddie imitational is that right I think he's doing super fight I think he doing I hope he is I hope he is I thought I'm pretty sure he's doing a super fight well that whole Eddie Bravo Invitational when they're going to do the open weight like anybody can compete the absolute that's going to be amazing it's going to be nuts oh my God I know onit's doing one of 165 and under at the onit Academy in in Austin Yeah March 24th Cal and I are doing the play byplay for that are you really yeah with a Jiu-Jitsu guy yeah I was going to say hopefully cuz I'm going to be like you probably do the Jiu-Jitsu play by for sure who you guys doing it with I'm going to have some trouble he's got someone who's running the Jiu-Jitsu thing on it got him do you know who the uh the jues who play by I don't I I
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asked him Todd White lives in on it maybe it' be him um but fun though yeah yeah Jiu-Jitsu tournaments of the future I really think so and I think platform yeah I think one of the cool things about it too is that you know I mean you can definitely get injured definitely get you know broken bones and stuff but you're not you can compete in and not worry about head trauma you know so I think a lot of people that are interested in martial arts are gravitating towards that because they're realizing now like hey like uh this is probably there's there's not a lot of options if you want to learn how to fight where you're not going to get your brain rattled there's so many there's such a debate now like in Europe especially about kids playing rugby and any kind of contact sport right I mean it's a very real thing where doctors and academics are going hold on like I know
it's a great sport but you are talking about you are talking about head trauma to your 14-year-old that's a fact whether what that's going to do to him later down the line we don't know America is chances are you'll probably be fine well you're talking about someone who's so young that they don't really understand the repercussions of their current actions and if you're doing something at 14 that might affect you when you're 44 that's kind of crazy you know yeah but then yet again this country has a lot of people that play football and they're fine at 44 so you know a lot of people play for four years I don't know about all that I don't know about that yeah most of those guys are up they're just up but not if you play in high school not if you play in high school dude a lot of people that they've tested that are high school students have CTE a lot of them they're
finding more and more sure I'm sure it causes damage but what I'm saying is that it's not as though I don't think the epidemic of people who played football like if you said well most people who played football even in high school you know have brain damage I bet they do compared to people who didn't yeah not only that here's the thing that there there's things like you can be high functioning but you can also have like real impulse problems and a lot of those real impulse problems are created by head trauma depression real lash out anger issues matter of fact one of the things that OJ Simpson's doctor said that if there were doing that same trial today when he was tried for murder they would probably bring up CTE yeah but here's the question when you know if you're going to ban and it's just it's out there but if you're going to ban Combat Sports for
kids well you know you wonder like what you get a lot of benefit from sports that are rough as well in a way you know in how it builds character or it's just a sport you might be built for and you're really good at it so if you're if you're built like a Samoan and you know uh maybe soccer isn't going to be as good for you as football so in a way you got to be careful with this stuff I agree you need some of this stuff well it's definitely good to toughen people up it's definitely I mean there's no no better Avenue to teach people discipline andam how to be tough than Combat Sports I think Combat Sports is you know it's the one thing where you have to figure out how to how to actually get it done there's no there's no maybe there's no close there's no you either get it done black no one's helping you no one's helping you by yourself yeah you enter into that ring he's a referee and that's
there gu just there to save your life that's it and there's another dude and he weighs a same as you you know like taekwondo you know you guys get knocked out and kicked and stuff but it yeah you get a lot out of getting better at something you know especially when the stakes are high you certainly do but I think that if if I had to do it all over again like if I knew what I know now and I went back and I was involved in Striking Sports i' would be way more careful way more careful about head kicks you know I kind of got lucky and dodged a lot of trauma but I know a lot of people who didn't a lot of a lot of kickboxers who just fought for nothing I mean nothing I remember I thought it was cool when they'd go 30 seconds left and the whole gym would turn and watch me and Shane Carwin plant our feet and just slug each other in the head and we get done like high five then I'd get in my
car and throw up je and Shane would call me and go dude I forgot where I was going and at the time we're like God see you tomorrow see you tomorrow meat head power you know like then we get in our cars and do it again the next day Dam I remember playing football in college and there's a play called 96 Power and they go bring in the shop bring in the Shob I'd come in it was me versus giant linebacker named Brian ewu who was a round or third round draft pick a nightmare and we I'd take a run start and we'd run into each other and everyone wait and stop that was like my thing now I think of it now I think hey man hey man I'm the front guy if it's the Civil War I'm the guy in the front the idiot watch this E sounds Samoan was he Samoan no he's black as night from Houston Texas close though Brian e it it it makes you rethink things you've done obviously in your
past I I look at earlier parts of my career all of my training I have a good chin granted I fight you know child-sized grown-ups but um you know the lollipop guilds attacking you it's not that big of a deal but Lollipop Guild you you learn that you got like liner liner hits hard last he hit me he hits hard and I remember everything in the ring going wonky like back and don't attack me right now that hurt um you I've been hit a lot I put myself in the in the hospital snowboarding hit in my head you know I I've I definitely have some brain damage I wouldn't trade it though yeah I wouldn't trade it for the world I would train different exactly you guys are both okay right now like you're not Muhammad Ali you're not Joe Frasier and his later we'll see in the later years well I think by the time you get old they're going to have some worked out they're going to stick a
syringe in your brain squirt some stem cells in there and you're going to be good to go I hope so I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure they're they're getting real close I mean they're getting real close to re engineering the entire human frame they're getting so close every day they move one step closer within 20 30 years they're going to have some cures for all kinds of the problem is when you're already like at Muhammad Ali stage or Freddy roach game over yeah Freddy roach has functional Parkinson's that's from trauma and you know he he's open about it he was in Wars man you watch his old fights God that's why he stops fight sooner now yep he's smart about that because he goes I wish my coach would have stopped the fight sooner so now was his last fight was Cody he's like I'm going to stop that you got one more RAM I'm going to stop this well the guy who
fought kovalev uh what's his face the um uh the uh Canadian guy oh Pascal yes John P John Pascal who was just getting boxed up doing nothing well he was getting the be out of and go you know I think the first fight took a shitload out of him and that's something that people do not want to admit when you take the kind of beating that he took in that first fight and the first fight arguably was called a hair soon but but it's a hair I mean his argument was that it was called too soon he's got a great chin he should have been able to fight he tagged him a few times he could have won that fight he did tag him a few times but he didn't tag him a few times in that second fight that second fight was the K kovalev show wasn't even close straight up ass who he's a bad moves like a m a murder he's in and out he's fluid and you know what he likes to do for uh
strength and conditioning Pates movement coach oh got Pilates does a lot of Pilates hot ass in there he's trying to sling dick he has a wife the way if you look at his body the fact that he hits that hard I don't know how he hits that hard it's perfect technique long long limbs do it for his body it's like the body is one thing but the skeleton is the big thing skeleton is a giant part of how a guy can punch the size of the hands the shape of the shoulders it's a huge huge factor which what makes Connor so good look at Conor's shoulders and hands his shoulders are dude I'm they're huge man I think uh he weighed at 177 178 right now yeah he's he's he's at this time last week to make 17 how about Chuck Liddell Chuck Liddell he used to get his he'd get measured and he'd hold his shoulders in so it said he was 76 in when he's really 79 and he was standing
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next to you and I was looking at why he do that cuz he wanted he didn't want you to know how long his reach was he's a dick well it's obvious fck yeah Hackman would tell him to do that so so that it said his reach 6 and if all of a sudden he comes out with 79 in and he's jabbing you or whatever he's doing but you know I looked at him and how how wide his shoulders were and how big he he walks around at 230 right now big he's been talking crazy about Jon Jones just wait till he slaps you John's or uh Chuck's big hands Reaching Across the table Wham you're like what the f yeah he he thinks he would give Jon Jones trouble right now he's a fighter he'll do it well you know that's you want that out of your fighter that's this thing in his head I mean he's still hits the bag and you know he still has power and he still thinks that if he I think his exact words if I hit him right
now if I put my hands on him I'd give him trouble yes he said his style would give Jon Fritz yeah and he he said that Jon wouldn't be able to out wrestle him which is like it's tough it's tough well what are you going to say to the guy the guy's a Legend he can't disrespect he's retired and he been in some crazy ass Wars and it's over he's earned that right it's over it's he's earned the right can say whatever he wants yeah he's earn the right to talk some and you know J JN had to respond a little bit has to but even way the way John responded was actually pretty kind yeah you know he said maybe if Chuck fought a little smarter we' protected his chin he also just put oh Chuck yeah classic that fight's going to be fun him and Cormier too it's going to be very fun did you see the photoshops yes so Tyrone bams and then what's his name the cop from from no from the TV show no no that
TV yeah guy no it's the same guy but that's the cop yeah from die hard yeah it's when he's a cop so funny what's your go back and forth with each other I love it what do you guys think of a home tapate it's a good fight it's a different fight Holly Holm first of all is she's first of all without a doubt the best striker in that division no one moons like her her atticism her footwork her kicks and you know the way she's conservative with that head kick too she waits till she knows it's time and then Bob booah she doesn't waste time on it she's not going to just throw it to throw it calculated when she lands it that's inep to neck oh so so good and if you look at her highlight reel it's all that you know in other smaller organizations outside UFC yeah but Misha Tate fights with a lot of pressure she's tough as and her grappling is really good super gritty really
yeah she's got to shoot those singles and doubles good luck also she's got but here's one thing she has to do she she can't run in like what Ronda did is play right into the strengths of Holly Holly's a fantastic counter Striker and Ronda just wanted to overwhelm her with pressure and power and take her out and she got cracked early and often and by the end of the first round she was like seeing Tweety Birds and all kinds of she probably had no idea what the was going on Mesa is not going to fight like that she's not can't she's going to fight hands up high and she's going to she's going to fight more conservative and I keep going to the Raquel Pennington fight which was Holly's first fight in the UFC where she won a very close split decision and this is not taking anything away from Raquel because Raquel is a badass all due respect to raal UFC Jitters son yeah UFC
Jitters um are a big factor I think that probably played a big factor but also Raquel's just real tough and real smart and you know didn't rush in I think the rushing in Factor was a big part of that fight Ronda just charging straightforward like a wild animal and then Holly moving and cracking the worst thing can do and what do you with a technician what do you do you make it a freaking gritty fight that's what me she got a clencher and I don't know if she's going to win that clinch she's not going to get for her to shoot a double or single from that distance she's going to get sprawled on you can bet done it before be uh no one's taking Holly down in the UFC no one's taking her down but you can get you look at it previous fights in the UFC people can get her to the cage sure but then then you got her in a clinch and I think Holly's stronger than Misha
Misha I mean it's going to be tough for her well I don't know about the wrestling aspect stronger I mean she hits harder but well I'll tell you my friend Justin Justin Milos who's a brown belt you know division one wrestler serious athlete he said that Holly feels like a dude he said he he's rolled with both of them he both rolled with Holly and with Ronda and he's like there's no comparison he's like Holly is strong as you could see it he's like she's really strong I think Holly wins I just think it's a different fight it's a tougher fight for Holly it's a different puzzle to figure out it's all about matchups I don't I don't think that she gets destroyed like Rhonda did I don't think she gets outclass like Rhonda did I think it's a closer fight but Holly still comes out on top well you know the other thing is that Holly went through a camp for Rhonda like no
Camp she ever went through before and she said she trained so hard for that you see the results of that I think she's going to do the exact same thing for this Camp so if she goes into this fight with that same kind of training camp behind her and is just in phenomenal shape like she was for for the Ronda Rousey fight she might box the out of there's more pressure on Holly now cuz we expect her to be you know she's this it's not a one-time thing she wasn't a one- trick pony she wasn't just a flash in the pan I think for her there's more pressure to perform now because with Ronda she was such a big Underdog he like ah she's going get merked beats the out of her now we're like damn Holly's for reals now there's pressure on her maybe maybe but she's had that pressure for she's 19 not like this my man what about this boxing L when's last time you watched it
exactly it's in a high school auditorium it's still a big deal for her though she's still there it's not the same brother it's that you're not doing press conference you're not the champ you don't have everyone's ready holl's ready for this but another thing that's taking pressure off her is that most people are paying attention to Connor for this fight for this fight they're talking to her a little bit this is the Conor McGregor show let me ask you guys this question the rest of the card what yeah this is a weird question there's good fights we'll pull up the card there good fights it's a great card it's not just a good card for those the Conor show though it's the Conor show but let's pull up this card Jamie there's a bunch of good fights on this card look at Nate you know here's one that everyone's sleeping on Amanda nunz that is the Dark Horse of the division
friends I think Amanda Nunes is a knockout machine she is tough as great she's taking on this Valentina shenko chick who is tough as too and a multiple time world Muay TI champ fight for it let's calm down on that posture though huh Valentina no she's rushing bro that's true you got you got to I'm Excuse me K am Amanda nun is so athletic and her striking is amazing she hits hard she hits hard I watched that Sarah McMahon fight again she's got a piston of a right hand she might be the biggest one punch striker in that division she's tough as but you know you look at her and then you look at the the the entire Division I think it's this this fight is a big fight for her because Valentina she also went through her UFC Jitters she was like real stiff and awkward and she was telling herself that in in between rounds in her first fight I don't think she's going to be like that coming into
this fight still look good striking look good here's another fight everybody sleeping on your boy Brandon thatch and baher Dada that's a good fight I think I think loser get Walking Papers you think so I I wouldn't give either one of these guys are Walking Papers you're not Joe they're both exciting to watch yeah these are great Fighters man I agree uh B yeah so he hasn't fought in almost two years he had time off he got hurt what did what happened to him you know I'm not sure I know he got hurt and then thatch has lost two in a row but they're two short notice fights had a change in gutter Nelson and they had to fight Ben Henderson yeah well he got clipped in the Nelson fight Gunner surprised him with that left hook that was a big punch and then submitted him that was a big fight for that though man I'm telling you if people could see him in the gym it's like dude what the too big
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Harry's incredible he's he's not too big he's it's always been a discipline issue for him and it's always been I he in the fight cuz the UFC you can't man you just can't have a night off and beat gunar Nelson you can't not be focused and be in a striking range of a top 10 or top 15 you know guy and not get knocked out but in losing all that weight to get down to 170 what does he walk around at he's at 190 that's it yeah but shredded he looks so big I know shredded he looks like he's a light heavyweight he's tall but thin but he you know he's a lot of muscle yeah CU I look at him and he he looks to me almost like a light heavyweight I could that 185 defin I'm telling he's not a light heavyweight no I believe you well obviously he's fighting at 170 he makes the weight yeah but you never know some the two times I've seen him fight he does seem so relaxed before the fight like it might
be the way he deals with nerves but he's almost like talking to people and he looks way C more casual than most oh go back to that early prelim at this early prelim Jim Miller and Diego Sanchez know early prelim going to be a war how is that a prelim fight by that's early prelims that's fight UFC pass son how is trying to get that UFC pass up well trying to get everybody to buy UFC Fight Pass and Diego Sanchez versus Jim Miller is a great way to get that done that's third fight of the night folks grind woo Diego Sanchez is such a Barbarian if that guy was put on this Earth to do one thing is go to war it's true he is such an animal that's dude don't sleep on don't sleep on Eric Silva and uh TB exactly that's another good fight that's a very good nordine tb's a bad First Team all body Eric Silva fell off well yeah he took his spot body his body's changed a little bit a little well I
don't want to talk about it but uh he did lose his Apple Bottom and he doesn't seem quite as shredded that's I wonder if he would pass the smell test yeah yeah he was a shredded animal before is it freaky looking yeah at one point in time he was ridiculously shredded a lot of flies um I don't think so dude I think he was um I don't know what you're talking about there might have been some he ate 20 PBS of red meat that day and he realized it was clocking his colon now he's in a he lives in a country where it's you can just get that stuff sure a lot of meat a lot of cattle vitamins and minerals yeah when you lot say and a lot of beef it's interesting watching all this happen though isn't it watching guys bodies change watching their performances change I like it because it doesn't make me feels bad about my body um I like the word as as yeah like you're still to UFC fighters
as not as bad how about the how about the obliques on Talib he's a stud super stud yeah congratulations strong obliques strong that guy is an animal sh haircut he's buy Buddy's from France I don't know if I can can't get behind French people probably Arabic my boy he's Arabic who was raised in France I'm just saying obnox your now you got to bring up my friends I don't know man who is that guy that uh George St Pierre brought in with him to train drunk smok cigarettes yeah the the French Muay Thai guy who's a bad Jean something or another I forget his name I forget him too but on the ultimate fighter George told everyone man if you're sparring with this guy don't hit him hard man piss him off you're going to be in trouble yeah be nice meanwhile he he has the ultimate dad bod that guy's body that ain't a dadbot you can't call that Dad B he looks like Yellow Bastard he looks like
Yellow Bastard from there's nothing who is this who this this Muay Thai Champion that George St Pierre brought in oh that guy with a belly yeah SM nonstop I forget his name man he was kicking the shite out of everybody he smelled like booze he'd come in drunk oh yeah he would come in drunk like up all night partying going to yeah like a TIE fighter like or the Dutch or French apparently too just all night in Vegas going to parties having a good time young tough kids up during the day you know what man all that crazy behavior that these guys used to engage in you know can't get away with it too many cellones these days like if these guys were trying to do that today trying to go out Johnny Manzel you know the football player he was a Heisman winner first round draft pick the dude likes to party he likes to party so much Cleveland Brown's like yo if you party man we're GNA cut you this guy
goes to Vegas under a hidden name and wears a wig and a mustache but but he looks like everyone's like oh that's Johnny Manzel and then and then it gets goes online in Cleveland Brown SE he's going to get cut for that ain't me that's a dude with a mustache that ain't me I'm telling you I a Johnny Manzel talking picture he partied with a W is this the guy that's him that's him he was a stud in high SCH football reportedly partied in a blonde wig fake mustache and glasses how can they tell you you can't party this is what they can tell you your performance was unsatisfactory you're cut that's what they could tell you they can't tell you you can't go have a good time this is the prom Joe what he's partying every night what if he's drinking water what if he just likes to dance say part of his cardio no he is he's actually an alcoholic he's been in out of rehab he's
got a movement coach his movement coach wants him to you're talking twostep on the Dance Floor now you're talking you movement coach troll the other day on Twitter I was howling what did you say what was your exact quote you believe in I said if if you think Anderson Silva's going to beat Michael bisbing in decision in the UK then you obviously believe in Dragons and movement coaches people got mad at you because they were like they were like dragons existed dude there's plenty of evidence yeah no they got mad at the movement coach thing is a they think I'm hating on Conor I'm not at all or or Port what's his name p I'm not at all not at all Conor's fans are the most easily butt hurt people ever I talk so much on everybody else Ronda all this stuff and I get some stuff all I said about Conor said he guess what Frankie Edgar's coming for you he didn't say anything of course I
had so many fans I don't know what country they were from or what but by Ireland buddy you you piece of bow to the king you need to Kiss the Ring and suck what the they they say with two o's you you you I've never had such an onslaught of of just talking because I said that you have a a fight well they have there's an identity thing going on there their ident if Ying with this guy in a way that you know you remember when you were a kid and I don't know how it was with you but when I was a kid I would identify with a fighter if that fighter lost I was devastated and I remember the day I let it go Donald Curry fought Mike mallum and I was a giant Donald Curry fan man I love Donald Curry and Mike mallum hit him with a low left hook to the body and then a left hook up top and shut the lights out and he went flat backwards arms over the top of his head and I went and and I put on my
running shoes and I went out running and I ran a couple miles and I remember when I came back home I said I am never getting upset over some dude I don't even know losing ever again damn I'm just going to enjoy the fights so like to this day like when I call fights unless it's like you guys luckily you're not doing it anymore but you when you fight or someone I care about it's hard you know because I I'm trying not to be B but when I watch if I watch Like Anderson and Bisping I want to watch a fight I want to see what happens I don't have I don't have a dog in the race I want to see and and if Anderson knocks him out or bisbing knocks him out I like the performance I like watching a performance yes it changed for me at that day that one day so interesting that young I remember mine was my brother was we weren't into fighting I thought John Claude vanam was
the man I thought that was real he is and was he still is but for me it was is mine was mine was Magic Johnson my brother's Michael Jordan when Magic Johnson got AIDS I started crying and my mom had to explain aids to me I was young man we me and my brother both balling but guys like that don't just represent the Conor McGregor doesn't just represent himself Conor McGregor represents a couple of things one is possibility like self-belief and the idea the goal to say that I'm going to be a champion coming out of nowhere and do it but but also like you have to look at where like Ireland they did a really interesting thing about during the financial crisis like with the Greeks and people like taking to the streets and you know freaking out the the Irish are quiet sufferers the Irish are very stoic people they don't show off they don't uh make a big deal about their own
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issues and pain it's very unir you get a guy like Conor McGregor all of a sudden to come and they've had the end of the stick for a lot of their history and so when you get a guy like Conor McGregor to come along and go hey by the way I'm going to beat everybody and I'm Irish who else do they have so I'm taking over for the for a first time in a long time the Irish are like not holy this guy is speaking for us and by the way unifying us that that's a big historically he's actually in a lot of ways I'm probably going to get for this but he's historically significant to the Irish and the Irish character get for that at all I think you're entirely right true agree there's a reason it's so loud in Boston stuff because because he is he's he's he's the guy who said hey it's our turn and who says we have to be quiet and keep our head down real that's the real St it's about goddamn time when I
went to Ireland fight and this was Connor's what second third fight in the UFC yeah I think it was second he you know people knew who he was they obviously they had the show he's headlining I get there wander around get in the cab oh oh you're fighting okay are you here for Connor like uh sure yeah I'm here for Connor who are you fighting I'm like okay wait for it I'm fighting an Englishman him hope he dies that's right that's yeah and I'm you know what's your name Ian Mall oh you're a good Irish boy I'm like I'm not but sure okay sounds not not and they they they thought I was a leprechaun or something in my Island are you from Lebanon and this was this was just before he was a big big thing they were already behind him so much and now he is who he is like you said he is he is a he's changing the game yeah his second fight in the UFC I believe was in Boston I
think it was his second fight and was second fight Max hallway which is the second fight no yes no the first fight was brimage maybe right first fight was brimage whoever whatever the fight was that I called I don't believe I called his first fight I think I called his second fight but I remember being there going this is nuts man this guy is on the undercard he's on the undercard and they're going crazy and I think it's because also Boston is a giant Irish Community right but there was just something about this guy I was like this is nuts like the the momentum had already started like way more than anybody I'd ever seen fighting on the undercard but another thing that's going on with Connor is that everybody knows the stakes are much higher because of the talking he does see all this talking is fantastic when you pull it off but everybody knows that if he doesn't pull it off if Nate
sleeps him if Nate connects with a straight left right hook and we see the chicken dance out of not cute but you better stay offline for a couple weeks or a month stay offline oh my God that's what I mean he's got you and Rhonda aren't close anymore you don't talk to her but I couldn't imagine I what just what I saw when I was online The Barrage of hate I got hate for Rhonda for telling people that she was great for you know expressing my my uh the being impressed with her performances the amount of hate she got it might be different a wave just a wave just a it might be different though because Rhonda was such a she was not a very gracious winner you know if you look at her when she's climbing rocks in that competition in The Ultimate Fighter and she's given meisha the finger it was so aggressive and then to not shake her hand and then to say what she said about Holly about
being a fake ass preacher's daughter and stuff that kind of stuff wasn't witty it was just it was just a lot of Venom it's very hurtful yeah like it man cuz then you're then you're being a bully you're being being a bully it's fear you know people know that when you know was doing that with Holly there was a fear and she was trying to put that fear into Holly and the worst thing in the world is Holly just standing out there staring H deadfaced drinking her water you know she didn't even pulsed me oh that that's cute this judoka is going to try and strike with me who I'm going to kick you in the face I like to use the word judoka judoka here's a question to you guys who are Fighters um what about this idea what if what if Mesa Tate crawled on on a three-point stance l literally crawled toward Holly home cuz she couldn't get kicked Jones style right and just grabbed her ankle picked
single she going to punch her in the face she's going to punch her in the face she going kick her arms but what that's not a VI that's not a viable she kick the out of those arms let me tell you something dude if you're on all forms all all fours and someone kicks your arms that is horrific break your then your dumb ass has to get up and fight with one arm forget it guys sorry this was my my stat strategy hold on guys Mish M don't do she's probably listening Misha don't do that it'sa climbed on top of the octagon and leaped to the center of the what if Misha has a knife guys you ever thought about that well you can't do that what if Misha knows ninjitsu right what if she sleeping dust yeah it's it's it there's not a whole lot of things that haven't been tried hey what if Misha won and Connor got knocked out in like 15 seconds whoa does Dana shed a tear no
just keep on trucking yeah keep on trucking Conor still the welterweight or the featherweight Champion not the same you're bad crazy if you think that or is still there not the same but look this the Irish people are still going to support him 100%'s fighting agree Joe but it's not the same fighting at 70 that Ora is gone if he can win a rematch he's lost before he lost to Joe Duffy not in the UFC we've never seen and he lost to a 25 did that little Russian guy who leg locked him was a 25 really that's back you're living in the past though I'm talking now that he's this Mega Superstar he a 25 really mhm wow yeah damn it was a long time ago out there 25 that could submit me you know get a hold of my sh you get a hold my legs see if you tap you know it's a guy you know there's guys that like it doesn't M if they get you in certain positions there certain positions that some guys have
they catch you in like Ronnie Yaya oh man that guy gets a whole your he's a tiny little dude he's also ultimate dadbod guy tiny little dude dad get a hold of your team constrictor you know that's what they call themselves that is an apt name cuz if that gets a hold of your neck man you get some problems L Paul har in your anself yeah well you know Paul hares versus Gary tonin in that submission only match of tonin that yeah he's crazy he's getting paid well for that g tonin is the favorite in that fight isn't K tonan the guy who beat everybody at the Bravo's the fa he's the favorite there and he's going to wrestle with Paul har yeah don't say wrestle I mean he's grapple with yeah submission grappling match I don't know if they have a weight limitation which could be a giant issue cuz pois gets way up into like 200s before he fight he fought at 185 it's first fights in the UFC are
they going to have testing for what they make sure he's on got did two don't have time for that time for testing they want you to be on steroids I want to quit everything I want to do steroids and I want to do Jiu-Jitsu all day and how about first of all how about first take a class no just get on steroids and start entering competition just squeeze people that's what I'm gonna do and lose I'm gonna lose gracefully at at the on it thing just jump on the mat we got a super match Bri kid loose pajamas that come off in the middle of rolling exactly hold on guys guys guys out your Hogs wipe it all over the map do you see that happen to a combine guy we talked a little out you know the combine right they're they're in uh tights yeah giant black guy douche run the 40 fat ass pterodactyl dick comes out the front then he Falls and eats on the turf oh and look at this girl who watch this
watch this he's very excited about he's got a piece on oh they blurred it out how dare you blur it out you got to find the real deal out there young Jamie oh this we we got on the floor dude it looks like a pterodactyl going down for prey it's all black taking off off no no no it's like this it looks like heed it looks like he conjured a spirit out of the ground no that it's like on drastic Park where the pterodax are taking oh here he go here go full screen son let's see this let's get this in our face this comes out right here right he's looking at his own dick he's like no oh my my he got that Turf dick cuz he scraped that chocolate dick on that Turf you'll see do they let him do it again I hope so hold this size of look how show he's likeoh you see see watch watch this right here he what a hog on this young yeah son Chris Jones back in heat you know how many Instagram pictures he
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must have gotten oh you know how how many girls just send him photos slid into his DMS face down ass up just oh you're that guy let's make this happen you're the dick Turf guy let's make this happen dick Turf guy yeah when before you run that comment like what's the worst that can happen I don't know it's not like your dick's going to come out or anything good point I'll the sheer volume of when he was getting up that you see the Mass yeah can you imagine how I don't know if you guys ever had turf burn on your dick are you kidding me heard of turf toe but not Turf he choose to fall dick first like that just I think he meant to for sure roll though I definitely think he fell forward to cover his dick probably he knew if it came out of his shorts it was going to the ground so why did you just let everybody see his dick if I had a dick like that I'd be ripping my
pants every day be he falls down he gets up and tells the coach he goes my dick fell out sh oh watch the get up freeze frame on this terod we went to right to count what in the that's the problem that dude needs one of them Diamond cups just to contain that I don't see a problem with it there's no problem sleeping he tells the coach goes damn my dick fell tell you what that's doing that's just reinforcing stereotypes I I wasn't surprised I wasn't like oh my God it's giant di yeah that's about right I was like I didn't miss a beat L I was like oh that's cool that's one of those stereotypes that people don't have a problem with if that was a white guy I'd be like oh I would have jumped out of my seat like Showtime kick someone in the face off the cage yeah Pol guy the fat white dick fat white angry snort and smoke like a dragon in his past a drag hey big fat pale white you makes me
laugh right now dick you know you know what cracks me right now someone's listening to the show going I thought it was a breakdown in the fight they've just been talking about Dick they're talking about a dragon talking dick yeah that's how it Go got I had to show you that though that's what's really funny when people get angry at this podcast they get angry they get they're angry at some of the that we say like what what do you say when you're with your friends and you're drinking what do you say what do you say % of the time people got so angry at that dot off 5000 thing cuz they got so angry that I mentioned Fried Chicken don't be mad at us be mad he died fighting MMA but here's the thing that's crazy they were upset at me that I mentioned Fried Chicken cuz they said that's racist but they weren't upset they were making fun of a guy who is still in the hospital like this is how
crazy people's priorities are that F first of all Fried Chicken is not racist it's delicious it is a great food it's delicious it's fatty for you it's not necessarily the best food for you but that's not racist what racist is is claiming or or pretending that one race is superior to another race cor gentically that's not what Fried Chicken is fried chicken is just food of a bad diet he's overweight and cutting all this weight and look like there so many people that are looking forward to being angry so quick they need a reason just looking forward to being upset that like if somebody said if I was fat and someone was saying you you meatball eatting i' be like yeah I like meatballs like what's is that so bad because I'm Italian you're genuinely not racist I remember one time I I actually remember asking you this so interesting because you came from Boston
and kind of working class kind of rough and I never heard I'd known you for probably three years this is way back and I remember I said i' never heard you say you say bad things about people but I never heard you once yeah you're mean basically he's a ball of hate but I never heard you say anything off color not once I never heard you say a Prejudice thing in any way and I remember saying to you I go you know you never I've never heard you make an off-color joke about any race black people anything else and you said it never made any sense to me he said you said you said I can show you a whole lot of really dumb white people where I grew up it's all about socialization I don't know if you remember that I remember you going it just made it just makes it never made sense it's culture I think it's obvious though and and with with Dada if if Dada was white and you went
ah Fried Chicken Pepsi drinking no one's going to say yeah this is this is how I feel about the Dada thing what I do feel bad about is that the guy's still in the hospital that sucks don't want anything bad to happen to him I don't want anything bad to happen to him I'm glad he's okay and genuinely all we were doing was J around and having fun cuz that's what we do and if people construed that as racism because I mentioned chicken please substitute it for pizza that's what I meant my my intent is what's important people like you were trying to be funny by saying Fried Chicken yes I was yes but I don't think that's racist I don't I don't I just not it's food but it's and it's funny that whole situation when when it you know how when you do something crazy and people go but did you die would yeah Dada died Dada died well he was his heart stopped is that what happened here's the
and everyone saying you know that we shouldn't have been making fun of his weight and his family was saying that he was only 2 or three pound over the week of the fight well then there's even less excuses because if you're that much if you're only two or three pounds you're only cutting two or three pounds away the fight he's just unprepared whoever did it they were make upset at us that we were making fun of his MMA training or strength and conditioning coach but this is based on the performance look we have to this is co-main event and there's something bigger at stake like all due respect to Dada this is my feelings on on the Dada thing here's the good thing here's a compliment that I will give him that guy never quit his heart had to give out I mean that guy never quit he he didn't have any endurance but he still fought three hard rounds and he had nothing
in the tank but he never quit there's a lot of opportunities for him to stay down he never quit he showed a lot of heart he was I like the way think but he wasn't trained properly wasn't prepared properly have skill set he wasn't ready no that's right and if you walk into that magnitude of a fight and you have titties hanging I'm gonna make a comment I make a comment like that about Roy Roy Nelson too all the time I do it about Roy Nelson all the time I've always said that Roy Nelson's gut is like he's wearing like 30 sweaters and that it's just it's all like you're hitting cheeseburgers you're not even hitting him you're hitting all this that he needs but that you know that's okay because I'm white and Roy's white but the the the those fights are not good for the Sport and this is why they're not good for the sport you're taking two guys that look bad their their endurance
and conditioning was terrible the this the FL the scrambles were awful like when one time Kimbo took him down and just got on top of them and they're just laying on top of amateur very amateur it's just so it's so Bush leagues that there's no way that anybody who watches that like say if you're a boxing fan and you watch like ter did you see Terence Crawford the other night that amazing wait good luck beating that dude godamn he's good he merked that dude he's so good and you know what man his switch he he'll fight you or switch southp I mean it's like Marvin Haggler almost like that level of switch his his ability to fight from either stand he just needs a big title like a mainstream fight if you're a boxing fan and you watch that fight and then you say well let me check out what this MMA shit's all about and then you go and watch the Kimbo Dada fight like this is an embarrassment to
the sport and this is not a mark against them as human beings this is just where they are now everybody starts off look if you the first day you enter into any sort of an MMA gym or Dojo whatever you all we all start out as someone who doesn't know anything we all start out you know with whatever strength and conditioning you've gotten coming in you know if you're a gymnast or whatever you know you bring whatever base you have but we all start out not knowing anything once you get to a co-main event I demand that you are better than that it's that simple I demand it I agree demand it especially especially 2016 you man and this is where I respect the out of the UFC and Dana when Kimbo wanted to fight in the UFC they were like fighting The Ultimate Fighter like you want to you want to fight in the UFC I know you're making a lot of money in Elite XE and you know
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everybody's making it out that you're the biggest thing but look when Seth Petrelli fought Kimbo I it's not there's a video of me saying it I was watching it from the Green Room of the Atlanta Atlanta punch line and I just got off stage and Ken Shamrock got injured when he was supposed to be fighting Kimbo and I went backstage and I saw Seth petrilla I go what the is going on and they said Ken Shamrock got injured I'm like no way and they said Seth Petrelli stepped in the day of the fight and took the fight I'm like oh no kimbo's gonna get up that's the first thing I never make calls like that but I said it it's on video you could watch the video of me saying he's going to get up and then he gets knocked out while we're watching the video like 6 seconds I told you CU there's a giant difference between fighting guys who are awkward and clumsy and you're a big tough guy
with good boxing backyard and fighting a like Seth Petra so let me ask you this Joe how do you justify CM Punk I don't they asked him to go on the ultimate fight from what I've heard they asked him he was like watch this first of all sweat that glorious beard damn son look at that why don't you bring that back Kim slice this a last minute replacement I think Seth Seth pret is always going to him up if I'm wrong you'll never see this that's funny so this is this is the fight way do well oh my God you're right why is everyone so surprised what I say is a bad a bad too beard is glorious you're super high aren't you oh I'm so high so high right now what I tell you I had to be that high to give that that that breakdown on on teleion I can hide in that beard that's a beautiful beard got a lot of man if you want to discipline Kimbo give him Jus but that's this this
is this is reality there's levels to fighting and this is one of I mean I'm an I'm an MMA analyst as what do I do as a profession I've been doing it for a long time I've called thousands of fights that fight should not be a co-main event fight I'm not saying those guys shouldn't be allowed to compete against each other they certainly should but they're not I mean I understand they want to get paid and I get all that and I know that Kimbo has some serious knee problems like Kimbo when he was on The Ultimate Fighter they diagnosed him with bone on bone cartilage I mean his cartilage is just devastating his knees his knees are from years of football and you know all the MMA training that he has done so not hurt I'm not hating on those guys to get paid but what I am saying is please Bellator cut the you you can't do that cut the side act the you got a chance a real
chance Bellator has a real chance of being a gigantic organization they just signed Bens and Henderson they got Josh Thompson they might get your boy mitrione they might get a bunch of other really good Fighters they got Vander Silva just signed with them they have a real chance at being right up there with the UFC they're a Viacom entity they have a tremendous amount of money behind them they're on television they're on Spike TV do it right you know what's tough though if you're Bellator we're going to look at the ratings son over 2 million views while D's titties are to the side in kimbo's gas it's Hoy Gracie though that's ho gra I I disagree I think it's Kimbo he's a huge draw huge draw if I don't think it's you might be right what if they have their own version of Fight Pass where UFC's pushing Fight Pass put the freak shows on Fight Pass yeah but
why you can't put Kim on Fight Pass when you get 2 million views on Spike TV maybe maybe it'll drive views to your your content when a guy is in such bad shape that the fight itself almost kills him and not damage just just competing almost kills him because if you look at the damage that he took nothing happen almost nothing like the combination that dropped him like they the people have played it back and forth it like ghost punches his body failed if you would have ate the same shots bisbing did against Anderson Silva oh my God you're dead oh my God you're dead that flying knee that flying knee but here again if anybody felt that I said something racist I'm sorry that you felt that way I really am I'm not sorry that I said chicken cuz I think this is ridiculous it's it's a ridiculous argument and I think in this day and age is nothing wrong with chicken is nothing
wrong with eating chicken it tastes great this is it's not racism racism is trying to imply that one race is inferior and that is just not the case replace chicken with any fat food fat when you're out of shap an example but there's a thing that people do man where they just look to be offended or they decide that this is something they should be offended at not looking at intent my intent was I'm talking about a guy who obviously he didn't eat kale salads and lean fish to get to that weight man he died that's another point is that when you when you say it feels like we live in a time when when you when you are fighting for one group of people like say people who have been oppressed in the past instead of kind of having an intelligent debate and pointing your guns where they should be pointed at which is usually a complex set of issues what we're doing I feel
like is we're demonizing one group to bolster another group that we call not really they're not demonizing white people I don't I don't think anybody's demonizing you think people Dem I do I think I think a lot of times you know if you look at for example I I I went to to uh upen and I spoke to uh these kids in their theater Department cuz somebody asked somebody asked me to do it somebody somebody somebody asked me to do it it was fun now they wanted me to do it about the Goldbergs and stuff and I was there I was there and I and I went and I asked the kids I said how many of you feel like your comedy is something you have to be careful of because you might offend somebody in your class or your school and half the class raised their hands and by the way most of those kids cuz I did it I looked that it were mostly white and I thought that's a shame that's such a bummer that your
expression and especially your comedy is being cowed by you know the fact that you're you're trying to be fair-minded you know none of those kids I don't think were racist or anything else but when when you're actually having right but but we see this in our in our institutions of learning especially our higher institutional learning where you're just not able to really and honestly express yourself and God forbid it it's funny God forbid it's a joke uh you know if you're not if you're not Towing the line then uh you will be censored I don't think it's a matter of demonizing white people because they're not demonizing white people without doing that I don't think it's demonizing white people it's demonizing looking yeah it's looking for anything to be offended at even things that are not offensive right and there's there's a lot a lot of people took more like Chris
Rock took a lot of heat from other black people I mean oh yeah you know and white people and Asian people so there's we're all very sensitive a time when we are making big strides as well 100% And I think part of that the I mean the the the oversensitivity is because we sense that there is a lot of positive momentum right and then people want to keep that going and they want to stop any racism any racism that does come up they want to nip that in the bud and let people know that it's not tolerated anymore which is understandable but we have to know when it's when racism is real and when it's not real and there's also a lot of bandwaggon jumping on where people just deci this is something they should be offended by where where I'll I'll sit down with you you try to argue with me that that's racist there's no argument it doesn't make a Lynch Mob who they just want to jump on yeah it's
it it's a stupid argument it's like watermelon watermelon is a stupid argument watermelon is a goddamn Delicious Fruit you tell me the watermelon is racist you're you're an idiot if you're if you're telling me grape juice watermelon chicken's racist they're reacting though to what was used in the past they're using what was used in the past to to create you know what but fried chicken has always been a delicious food there's no time it's not like something that like poor people could only afford and a matter of fact when who was it was running for president I think it was Roosevelt where when he was in his campaign one of part of his campaign was a chicken in every pot and the reason why is because chicken was expensive back then so he was saying that he was going to offer prosperity to the American people and that every family would have a chicken I'm offended Fried
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Chicken's racist no I'm offended it's just it's not racist it's racial in that it's always been in some way connected with black people but it's it's also it's not something only black people eat it's not like Curry when magic joh is like that that's like a serious ethnic food you know you say someone smells like Curry like that's more racial if you're talking about a racist I mean an Indian person when Magic Johnson owned all his Starbucks he opened Starbucks in black neighborhoods and one of the first things he said is you guys are selling food that black people that I grew up with are not going to eat and here are the foods you should sell at my Starbucks and he made a lot of money by changing at least back in the time what what they were willing to offer what did they too what was the new menu believe it or not I think one of the things this is back when I read about it probably
long 10 years ago more than that they were offering in the Starbucks in Harlem and places like that they were offering things like sweet potato pie because Fri chicken I don't know but I know pies magic goddamn delicious mag Starbucks I've never seen it in Back In The Day Magic John said you got to this the food that you have in these is not going to fly hold up magic John potato pie we don't eat scones we we don't eat scones that's not that's not racist that's cultural yeah that's a cultural thing well you know what's hilarious another thing that people were trying to get upset at me was orange soda guess what sod not is not connected to black people it is just not it's just not like saying that orange soda is racist so that was like the cover of Yahoo they cut out cheeseburgers and they they wrote Joe Rogan says that Dada ate fried chicken and orange soda like they didn't even
they would say cheeseburg cuz I was trying to throw in a bunch of different but orange soda is not racist at all it's a syrupy super sweet fatty drink I love soda it's very tasty it's very probably why I'm thicker than a Snickers man I just I love orange soda you like sugar dude those fuing those goddamn delicious um uh mangoes with chili me with those I really never had them go in there they got your name on them just bags of them I can't eat them all right I'll TR I'm just di that I'm on from who you know I should try it uh I got there a bunch of different companies that I have back there you hungry you want one go grab one there's uh there's bags of them back there the I think don't scared bring an extra bag my man the best ones are U the best ones that I've tried so far are Trader Joe's uh to the right the Trader Joe's ones are goddamn delicious yeah Sugar Man me
and sugar I don't everybody in Sugar people are mad at me for talking too much about sugar so I'm going to shut the up because people you can't do anything I can't do anything can't do anything well you know what the deals we're dealing with volume the numbers I mean we got like 23 million downloads this month the numbers are insane but whenever you stand for something or whenever you have an opinion chili mango me too when whenever you stand for something or you have an opinion people aren't going to agree with everything man but but if people aren't disagreeing with you you're a schmuck you're a schmuck man well you're not you're not expressing yourself honestly you're not being original you're trying to please the crowd everybody has different points of you and if you have there's nothing wrong with that though you're not a hater you sometimes oh look at that he
gave it to you oh thanks bro he's eating he's eating a bar he's eating something super healthy low sugar and he handed that bag over to you just cuz I'm Mexican doesn't mean I like fruit the salt on it okay I I've never been able to figure that out oh it's well it's the it's the chili powder man that's a delicious combination I had a dream last night I had a dream last night that I was eating bread and that and that someone called me out on it and someone is like dude you're eating bread I was like oh no fre I got too high and I ate the bread I forgot isn't that crazy what kind of a up dream is that that I'm eating bread that was a real dream that I had I can't believe you're going to run with this diet for more than 60 days I'm definitely going to run with for more than 60 days I feel great I'm down I I don't know how much I'm down I was 194 this morning and you
start actually 193. you started at what 202 203 not bad I'm somewhere around like 9 lb down that's pretty cool and you're eating I'm eating it like a pig my thing is I'm good when I'm at home but whenever whenever Cal and I go on the road or anything like that my di goes to if I had to walk around with a 10lb jacket on I'd be uncomfortable i' would be like God I get this fu F stupid jacket off I think that's how you have to look at your body if you're one of those people that goes I could lose 20 lbs but who gives a if you take that 20 lbs and put a 20 lb jacket on how would you feel you would you're just accustomed to feeling like so that feeling like becomes your new normal you know what I'll eat six catberry eggs and wear that Jack you know what I'm saying I cry eggs cadburry eggs if you want to kidnap if you want to kidnap him put some cadburry
eggs in a van and put him in the back of the van and then he'll just he can't help himself I will gladly wear that like one of those trap catch coyotes help slam the door shut traps behind him got you got you big boy got you we're in a meeting we were in a meeting a couple days ago with Fox all suits and someone had a bag of Red Vines like shop you want one they threw me the bag I was like ah C goes holy he ate all of them in front of everyone like godamn well I turned my head to look out out the window and then I turned back and they were gone I was like what' you do swallow them all what can you sugar is a drug it is a drug it really is it doesn't seem like a drug because it doesn't get you high but it there's a a physical reaction that your body has to Sugar where when I would eat I'd eat a full meal and then after the meal I would still be hungry for
something and what I was craving was like either carbs or I was craving cookies like like I'd see like a bag of cookies and I go oh cookies in milk Sweet Tooth yeah sugar meanwhile I'm stuffed stuffed like I ate a giant meal yeah I don't have a sweet tooth I have sweet teeth it's just like that all the time you know what I'm saying like's never I don't ever not want sugar yeah but if you stopped eating it if you like took time off I guarantee you your gut bacteria would change and that that craving would go away like I could look I could eat that no one's stopping me I don't have like a law it's something like I'm on probation I can't have sugar I don't want it what about raw honey is raw honey different in your body no not really I mean sugar sugar but it's not terrible for you like it's not terrible for you if you don't get too much of it the problem is you're
only really supposed to have about 25 grams of sugar a day if you live a healthy diet I'm say I'm saying good luck inting 25 gram that's all I do I think right or do I do you count do you count like I think bread breaks down as glucose quickly no bread isely sugar sugar and and Pasta Pasta sugar yeah you know this diet this Prime Mark cis's Primal blueprint diet is no grains and I've never done that before I've done gluten-free before where I had like rice noodles and stuff like that this is the first time I've ever had no grain at all and I just did it for a goof you know I'm not I'm was doing it to prepare for but listen to this guy Mark Sison who was a very smart guy and very interesting guy to talk to he's not you know he's not a artist and I'm listening to what he had to say about inflammation and all the issues that he had dealt with like acid reflux or what
was it I I listened to that show I IBS and um also joint pain arthritis I'm telling you that is the interesting thing I I think I talked about this before the podcast but when I get out of bed I don't have any aches and pains anymore I would get out of bed I'd be like ah my back and I'd have to loosen up and I would do all these exercises and before my body started feeling loose again like I'd have to like get my back moving I'd get blood circulation and then once things starts circulating the the aches would kind of slowly go away I don't have any aches I get up I have nothing I just get up and it took me a while to realize that I go oh it's gone have you ever tried fasting before no but I do intermittent fasting now so I eat at 9:00 at night right and then I don't do anything until my workout my workout is like 10:00 in the morning and then I work out then I eat after my workout so
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I'm for you know 11 hours or 12 hours or so I'm not eating see I on Sundays I usually fast I stop eating Saturday night usually 7 I won't eat till the next day to 7 yeah 24 hours that's you know if you have a good meal you have a good meal at 9:00 you know you finish somewhere around 10: and then you let all that digest and then take that time off and then when you wake up like it's you know 9 or 10 do a hard cardio workout it kicks in your body's desire to burn fat you can also get away with eating some sugar I worked out damn near seven days a week you know what I'm saying so you'll burn a lot of that off do you know what definitely will I mean you're not fat you know what epig IST you know what epigenetics I think you needed that like a hug exactly thanks bro I was wait for that was the final side obviously you're obviously a very fit guy you know I mean you don't
have any issues as far as like your your appearance but as far as the overall performance of your body if you just wanted to give it a goof for for your show you know just to guide people through it for fun you know I know a lot I've gotten all these tweet twet and Facebook messages from all these people that are trying to do it now I want to do something outlandish though like an all cabbage diet for the month or something hey but that's not healthy what you should do is just try it try no sugar I know look man I'm telling you I bought 10 bags of those chili mango things back there and boxes of those sugary bars cuz I love them you know but I don't like them right now like that doesn't have any pull to me that's what's the most fascinating thing about this the bread oh yeah I went to dinner the other day and we were at this Italian restaurant with my family and bread comes out and
didn't mean to me do you know what they find that this from what I've read and heard epigeneticist got people who study how you can turn genes on and off right so that's a new science do you know what one of the leading causes of inflammation is which I thought was fascinating your gums and the food that gets stuck in the middle between your gums will break down as bacteria and apparently goes into the bloodstream and there finding that that has a first of all they know that that kind of bacteria has a lot to do with your heart heart health but it also has a great deal to do with inflammation in the body which is uh fascinating so that's why they say the one of the most important things you could do is floss a that noise I know but that's but that's what this guy you not my friend you floss I do now since I heard that you don't floss I do now since I heard it how many times you
floss now that I heard that since the past week I do it twice a day i' floss a dozen times in my entire life on this planet once and my gums bled so bad I like to pick at my gums I do like those things you know what I like those water picks that's the those are the and to get the stuff out because it does as you sleep it breaks down and goes into the bloodstream and that bacteria apparently has a great deal to do with inflamation that's why it's good to have a little gap tooth yeah get some gaps in your teeth pull a couple teeth out no you don't want that Gap do you I I used to have a thing for girls with gap teeth I'm not mad at that either I have a thing for girls like generally I I dated one yeah you know and they were you dated you dated a Michael stran yes and it's it's not you know I just she was gorgeous but what I think it's hot I think it's hot girls with a gap to
I'm trying to think of the hottest girl that that uh she was a Bellator girl uh Jay Bryce she's so hot perfect example is that the girl oh my bad she's so only girl the giant G we were yes we were talking about it she's possibly the niest person on the planet she's also she's also one of the hottest people on the planet tooth or not yeah there you go and you powerful gaptooth yeah there's a lot of pretty wom with gap Gap Lauren Hutton remember that old school model the movie star powerful gaptooth she was like the the poster girl when I was a kid I remember seeing her like Dam there's some new girl now I I see on billboards with just a uhuh I know talk you know was interesting man you was there's Lauren Hutton God damn it you know that's too much no not show back when she was hot and young I don't want to see some old pictur look when she's she looks like Willy won
where's the gap tooth there it is Bam son there my girl right there look at that gap tooth that's a nice Gap she's lucky she has them eyes she's beautiful she was beautiful she's good um do did you guys pay attention to the controversy boy we were really breaking down these fights you guys pay attention to the controversy that these models were complaining about this oversized model or plus-sized model sorry I said oversized sorry um oversized model I said it Again cover of Sports Illustrated dude she's the hottest one well they were saying these these models these models were bitching and they were saying that it's not healthy oh this what she's doing is not healthy what yeah cuz a likes a T-bone and these other girls don't eat guys don't like skinny girls only other skinny mods I like SK but I only weigh 125 lbs I know but I like around at what's your
walk around weight 45 50 okay there she is in the middle that girl in the middle ain't for you creepy she's delicious she's got some giant tatas yeah let me see more of her is there more of her well she's the one by the way that is not wearing body paint they might put they might have put they might have put body paint on Rhonda you can't put body paint on them giant tatas you can't you can't come light in the ass either you must you must come correct PR Jesus Christ she's beautiful come correct all right okay all right now we got to slow down we got to chill out cuz those hips like well it's the the legs and the hips he meanwhile all this young lady needs to do is a rigorous strength and conditioning program for a couple weeks and she's okay well we just got a little ridiculous here is that her back there her face is beautiful obviously she fluctuates she's super hot yeah body
I like I see that there right it's perfect that's perfect is that her okay right there is perfect she fluctuates obviously her midsection looks like mine but h i don't mind yeah I'm I'm not mad don't get me wrong out of those three girls she's yeah you I bet I bet she has no problem dealing with the SHA like you know what I'm saying like you you you you can't like over her I agree she she's ready she a big man oh she she's not like ow ow ow hold you can't go hard enough out she she going to get you in full G she is your full G dude her face is beautiful she's gorgeous she's your ocean buddy there's a lot of Variety in the photos of her like some of her where she looks perfect and some of her where she's obviously like a little you know it's going to be old early 20s when she's 40 I don't know if that's a there's no such thing as one of these models that's any
any yeah what what does she weigh cuz old she she's 87 29 29 okay there's no such thing as these models when they're 40 they don't exist especially the plus- side ones how dare you not the plus- side ones no they just don't exist nobody wants to see it Cindy Crawford's still doing the damn thing we' this but that thick chick she very few of them man but Cindy's that's a full-time job she's on it all day with creams and antioxidant lotions and rubbing lofas all over her face and car in 20 years she's rubbing sand all over her face smoothing it out exhausting exhausting at that it's so tired it's a sandstorm hurry I got to run I got to go for a job yeah she probably sees like fat ugly chicks she's like I wish who's the um the girl who's in body heat Kathleen Turner she was smoking she got she became an alcoholic she she became like a a balloon animal
she drank a lot she got she became a she blew the up well not only that she had that balloon that drunk face where something happens to your nose your nose gets really okay first of all look at where when she was upper left corner please look at that dude she was so hot when she was young that body heat movie that was 1981 no if we get her to bring her face down she's sniffing there you go she had a real she had a real Husky sexy voice this mic smells like can these things change can I take these off they don't come off ew you're you're already breathing at least it's yours at least it's yours I'm just upset that I've been talking to people this is what's been coming out of my mouth I feel rude how was brushing your teeth this morning with dog yeah like I'm not crazy about this chick well here's the thing this is a really hot girl from 1981 if you saw her
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at the gym today you'd be like probably be here more often I was how about be hell of an actress I want to see her I want to see her now Jamie well the bodies that women have today are just better because they're ath I mean better for what I like I like I like a gal who looks athletic like that's what I like I like girls like CrossFit girls like look at her now she she did a lot of drinking Jesus Christ she did a lot of Dr a lot of drinking man and women are like that's what a real woman looks like you yeah that's what a real nah man she's 50 years old you piece of that's a lot of booze meanwhile Cindy Crawford is 52 Brinkley Christy Brinkley's 90 she's 150 years old we'd all her I would her after you guys her how about that like I'm going to pretend that's that's her when she was in that movie body heat great movie she let herself go maybe she got money and
said it it's not that she Dr I think it's boozed and cigarettes cuz with that voice she smokes a lot ofar she had a serious drinking problem did she stop I don't know but I know she talks about it maybe she had a blast got some money starts smoking got fat as eating catberry eggs I'm not mad at it maybe she just got tired of getting dick she's like I got to keep this dick away she was actually G I think she might be gay in fact I think uh why I'm saying you just think everybody's gayday I know how dare you I like to spread rumors yeah how dare you do about K green Kai Green's in Venice a lot he's going to going to you up he's going to and by you up I mean he's going to you yeah like he that great in a straight way oh that's hilarious yeah I just don't you know I mean I think also the pressure of being a hot chick I think it's it's overwhelming I think after a while they
just I mean from speaking from personal experience my days as a hot chick I just think it's overwhelming for those girls like to imagine your entire existence is based entirely on people wanting to you you're defin on Symmetry and God just sending mental dick missiles at your face all day long dude I used to I used to work out at this gym where I won't say her name like that noise a very famous mental dick missiles is pretty funny yeah it's ridiculous a famous female celebrity would work out there and she would go in the shower before me and but the paparazzi was waiting for outside she was in there for maybe damn near 2 hours would come full makeup ready CU there's so much pressure cuz people were just taking picture all the time yeah it's hard for hard it's hard hard Rene zwagger said that she moved to New York because when she'd get out to put gas in her car if she brushed
her nose they take a picture and it looked like she was picking her nose she just was followed everywhere she was like I'm going to New York to live a and by the way for a girl like that whenever I'm around him I have to say by the way by the way that it's contagious as by the way for sure when I'm around him I say for sure when I'm around you I say by the way it's it's just it's just exhausting to be one of those ladies those hot and she also had to get a fuckload of plastic surgery I mean she didn't have to but she did you know she tried to keep up man it's a dog race if you're a hot chick it's not good it's not good it's rough you have an expiration date too pretty much I mean that that's going away well Patty Jenkins you know our friend who's who directed Wonder Woman now and she said if you want to be humiliated be a woman a female actor in her late 30s early 40s
you know when when you start to lose quote unquote you're delicious as Katherine he said you become invisible oh you won three Oscars awesome we'll see you later there really aren't any any parts for you it's tough even Anne hathway talked about that she said she was the young girl getting the parts and now she's not getting them she's like I get it it's the business man there's 19-year-olds taking my job she's like I used to be that 19y old yeah but here's the thing okay I can't get a job playing a black black basketball player because I'm not a black basketball player you know what I'm saying I can't get a job playing Jackie Chan's brother because I don't look like I'd be Jackie Chan's brother if you want a job as a hot chick you have to be a hot chick when you are no longer a hot chick you're going to have to get a job as a hot chick's mom yeah that's not that's not sexism that's
what what the did you do to get famous in the first place you got the genetic Lottery mad the genetic Lottery has an expiration date oh my God I feel so bad it's so hard for women in this business it's was pretty easy for you to slip in the door all you had to do is have good features are hard for guys in this business this business is ridiculous what what is the business the business is who want I mean in in that extent it's who wants to you does no one want to you well we're going to find someone we want to I lost a part because my man my manager called me goes you want me to be honest I go what he goes they just said you weren't TV good-looking enough I was like that makes sense I agree with that that's reality man that's reality not true true depends on what they were trying to well if they're trying to cast as the 30s something single guy yeah
probably not you were like a guy on lost with a plane crashed and you were fairly rugged and you took care of some older women and they wanted to you yes you're the guy yes my buddy Frank you know how to make a fire with a stick my my buddy Frank will the greatest guy in the world called me up he'd be like dude you got to get on on this audition and I would call my agent and and finally my agent David Letterman goes Brian he just stopped me goes Brian you have to stop calling me about the auditions Frank Gilla goes on and I said why he goes because you don't look like Frank Gilla you are not his casting you could play his friend but you don't have his hair or his look and he just he got mad at me and I was like you know what you're absolutely right I don't look like how it goes how it goes and you can't get upset at that because that's you got in just as easy you didn't get a
goddamn PhD to be a hot chick it's not like you scoured the world and and and busted your ass 16 hours a day going through doctorate your dissertation and writing books no you you're just a pretty girl knows how to pretend for you to be upset that people don't care about you because you turned 40 well guess what you're in the wrong goddamn business they're not going to care about you when you're dead either and you're going to die so there's a certain reality to the expiration date of the occupation that you've chosen you signed up it's not and this is not the business's responsibility you know I mean I I I I was friends with a guy who's Asian who was always complaining about the lack of Asian roles in Hollywood legit and I was like well okay but they don't have to write a movie about Asian people they're like well it's he's like well it's a closed system well okay you've got to figure
out a way through the system right there's a certain way that has to be available to someone to to get a gig and they shouldn't have to cast you just because there's no Asian people in their movies well that's going on in Hollywood that's going on in Hollywood for example like the black issue in Hollywood look black people take up what 12% of the population in this country um there are a lot of very talented black people as there are a lot of very talented white people but the bottom line is MoneyWise you know there's more money in making sort of movies that are geared maybe toward a white populace only because that's the economics there are a whole lot audience members that are white and and the infrastructure yes is already fairly white so it's going to take some time but to to mandate or to kind of scold Hollywood because there aren't enough uh vehicles or roles for black
people or Asian people it seems to me to be a little bit disingenuous I understand the frustration but come on man at the end of the day it's reflective of demographics isn't it isn't it reflective of the fact that 12% of the population are are African-American yeah most of this country is still white and it's still a business I think and it's still a business I went on audition a couple months ago went great between me and one other guy and the other guy was African-American my agent called me goes man you dig great you're they they think you're better but they're they're they're GNA go with the the they think you're better yeah they think you're better but they're going to go with africaner they want diversity because they don't want to get people upset at them first of all that's a fact first of first of all there's a effective if you're casting a movie I mean a TV
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show now it is a fact that and I I just know this that you have to cast a certain number of people of quote unquote color that is there's a lot of pressure you don't have to you don't have to but if you want to avoid criticism and that's one of the reasons why this criticism exists this criticism I mean it's essentially like an affirmative action for ACT well it's in the NFL too you know if you're hiring a head coach in the NFL you have to interview a black coach you have to it's required you have to interview a black coach so you might have six white guys and you're like the six one's really good I know but you got to put in this inferior black and we have to do it they're trying to do they're trying to equalize the playing field and create equality of opportunity which is a good thing I just don't know if that's the best way to do it well what is the best
way to do it best way to do it is through meritocracy and create opportunities for people of all ilks and all colors earlier earlier nurture nurture various cultures nurture the idea that hey instead of taking this path maybe there's another path I'd love to see more black for example let's just take black people more black scientists and doctors over more black actors and things like that enourage I know you I'm saying the way you do it is you nurture those communities when they're still young create possibili the best guy should get the job I don't care black white IND doesn't matter yeah I I think that's true too but I also think we've got to figure out why those people aren't getting opportunities like what is it that's the answer that's the question that's the they're not born with the same opportunity yeah they're not born with the same opportunity they
they're given a shitty deal as far as like they hand that they're dealt as at birth that's a fact got deal you got to fix the hands yes but but also keep in mind when you first of all you talk about black people gay people white people it's so ridiculous with very different a black from some a black person from Nigeria black people and gay people a black person from Nigeria is very different than a black guy from who grew up in South Carolina she's a completely different culture and everything the black the African immigrate immigrant experience in this country is not so different from a lot of other immigrant experiences um so culture plays a factor in where people start and end as well we don't talk enough about that we don't it's very taboo to suggest maybe your culture if you're a white guy from the Appalachian mountains isn't as effective for this Marketplace as the culture of a
Northeastern white guy maybe your culture if you come from a black m Mississippi a black Mississippi neighborhood or where Dada 5000 is from in that that documentary racist chicken but that code you have to say what are the deficits in that culture compared to the def to the advantages of being a black Kenyan or a black uh Nigerian that seems to work in this Marketplace let's start talking about that if you don't want to have a discussion about that maybe you don't care enough I know what you just said so I can't really agree or what I'm saying is that culture plays a factor you L me at D was born the way you solve the problem is look at how kids are raised start with there sure well I think for sure we have a problem in this country where there's communities where people are grown growing up where it's just despair Des spare and crime Baltimore Detroit I me you can keep going down the
list of terrible communities where people are born that no one's doing anything to try to fix the government looks at all these problems that are having that that people are having in other countries and they're like we have to help these Syrian refugees we have to help well we help people in Detroit too man you know help help people that people are but you're also dealing with a legacy of that's where racism is a legacy where black people well black people were redlined well I had this guy Michael Wood on who was a cop in Baltimore good great guy super articulate smart actually running for mayor of Chicago or not excuse me for uh the head of police of Chicago right now and well I hope he wins because he's got the right idea and he was a cop and he's a super honest guy but he said that the way Baltimore was set up you literally couldn't sell black people
houses and white it's called being redlined in every Community why is there a black ghetto in almost every Community that's a bad part of town how what a coincidence it's black you couldn't get a loan for a house unless it was in within these lines that's how it was that was that's what you call institutionalized racism and people living there they didn't own those houses they were renting you know what's weird is there's there's really no if you think about it just to go back to what we're originally supposed to be talking about if you go back to it there's really no black female Fighters Angela Hill okay who was mad at me by the way for uh 135 for say FR chicken she said she made a Twitter post says this is what she hears and she had a clip of me from my 2005 Showtime special where I said there three magic words uh love and those are the three magic words and like in the
last one you can't even say out loud not even calling somebody it you can't even say it out loud if you say it out loud people could beat the out of you that was the point of the bit so she took an excerpt of that and she said this is what I hear when he says that and she she was super upset disappointing it is diso disappointing I'm saying at 135 like there's not a lot of African-Americans byfc at in the female Division and there's some for especially women but if you think about there's some Beast African-American women it's a new sport monsters wait till they get into it wait till you have two little Serena Williams sisters who like maybe you guys should fight see you everybody athletes there there's my my crry lady U what do you mean they black people black people okay her her she's white but but her kids are black um her half and her daughter looks like
fenus and Serena she's 15 and hey we should play tennis together you how fast how fast do you serve she goes oh like a little over 100 I'm like why the would I want you serving a ball at me in 100 miles make her play tennis with Callen Callen is a stud he takes he takes lessons the pro she you just like that bodybuilder guy I go and when I back and I go it's a long one never got and when I serve I go eat my day eat my dick yeah that's a good thing to say because this just say eat my dick L A Lot flies right by you di say eat my dick yeah but wait till wait till African-American girls go you know what we can kind of make money in this fight game well all white girls are Fu a lot of Russian and a lot of Pol like you know y Yana yonek and uh there's there's a lot of uh Muay Thai in Europe and in Russia and I think a lot of those athletes are going to leak into
to uh MMA you know Yanna is going to Muscle Farm is she she's doing some of her camp at Muscle Farm that's great I would also suggest that black being a a super whatever athlete is a black there's only one Black Champion right now right you got Luke rockold you got J Jones is the current champion um keep saying Jon Jones okay yeah and then you got well you got really let's say Jon Jones then you've got in the heavyweight division it's fabrio verom then you've got Robbie Lawler who's Filipino and white and then you've got um at four 55 do Filipino and white yes why did I not know that Doan then you got so it's Mighty Mouse and Jon Jon that's it yeah hell Doan well Connor um yeah Mighty Mouse and and and Daniel the two you keep saying Jon Jones Daniel Cormier is the champion I apologize Daniel kind of cuz I I watched Jon Jones beat the out of him he didn't beat the out of him but he beat I
disagree he broke him uh he won he definitely won he broke him when is that fight happening April 23rd I think there's already Billboards for it on sale now what you calling that Jon Jones motivated and in shape powerlifting is a dangerous but how much of this is BS you know we don't we don't know perfect so he's bigger stronger faster with time off and he already beat him before well also um it seems like he's on the straight and nrow and he's training all the time I want I want toag this is why I think it's I I don't know because orlovski this is the only reason why I question at all orlovski said he's never in the gym Arlovski you know might just not like might yeah when did he say that recently he might they might be coming at different times or arosi might have been quoted but it might have been an older quote you know he might have been you know talking about six months
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ago or I know is John with no camp Camp doesn't matter this dude's beating people the up well John and shape and motivated you know it's interesting one of the things that he said that I think was really honest and and intense he said he used to always give himself an excuse for losing so like if I lost I'd be like well I didn't even really train wait till I train and then but he kept winning you know he was saying that this this fight he's not doing that and this fight he is like in some serious shape the powerlifting is no joke man when you're watching him do all that powerlifting he deadlift some like 500 pounds whatever it is a lot but it's the point is his body has obviously changed like he's been putting some serious work in there's no doubt about it you could see the physical results in his body he's bigger I just I don't and I love DC you know this DC I
love him I've worked with him a ton I just don't see DC having the skills to beat him I don't see it happening what would DC have to do differently because he'd have to do something different well train with Kane that's the big one well he's out but Kane is injured obviously Kane yeah but Kane Kane was a big part of his training camp and and Kane like having Kane is click on that video of him kicking go to that one right there let me see that let me see this look how jacked he is he's in some serious shape I want to see his kicks cuz that's a big part of his game man God DG I can help him with that he's moving his front foot first I'm G have to talk to him back that's what you're supposed to do dummy you got to step out man you you don't have to you can just turn your shoulders well no you turn your front foot man don't ever ever turn your shoulders you don't have
cuz I can see you there you don't know what you're talking about I do know what to talk use it all the time no you turn your front foot first it's the most important part of it you keep your body exactly the same or you pivot on that foot when you go up on your heel and you can get a lot of power with you don't want have a kickoff I will 100% show you please let me show you J kickoff you'll see we'll go in the back after this we sure are oh Dam he uh he definitely could do this better but what's important is that yeah who's I I I I'm tell you I just don't see I don't we know what DC brings that crazy Relentless Pace boxing wrestling yeah what's what's he going to do start kicking what's he going to do different I'd love to hear it and I love DC but we we we don't know how much of all the talking and the emotions and all that stuff played a factor in his
preparation and his execution during the fight we don't know we won't know until we see them go at it again we don't know how much of a factor Kane would play because Kane's not in his Camp right now cuz Kane got injured training for for so he's not there again not there again and Kane had back surgery which is some serious he had a chunk of his disc removed poor dude well it's also not necessarily necessary because uh Matt Brown went through the same injury and Matt Brown didn't bother getting surgery and CM Punk went and got surgery too and I have been through it and I didn't get surgery but that's where I got that machine that reverse hyper that's in the back all the yoga that I did all the other different there's a bunch of different treatments that you could do to take care of a bulging disc and they involve lengthening your body stretching and
decompressing your spine and it heals it it can heal itself but Sur supposed to be faster right yes but it's also permanent man you take away that chunk of disc that chunk of disc is gone now man it's gone what they replace it though correct there's no replacing a disectomy what what Kane went through what he's got as a bulge right I'm not a doctor I just want to say that real quick so here's his uh here's his back right corre here's his spinal column and then he's got his discs right next to it well one of his bulging discs is pushing against his spine okay his spinal column like his his spine his actual spine that's where you get nerve pain that's that's why that's why you have um um that's where sciatica comes from and for me I had it uh I had it both places I had a little bit of a sciatica at one point in time and then I had it in my fingers the fingers was real bad though
but that was cervical um when it happens they just go in there they open you up they cut that piece out and then go back and so now it's not pressing up against you but you cut a chunk of your disc out and you know you you have less cushioning there not necessarily either way that is not back for DC exactly that's all I'm saying he's not going to be back he's not back for DC Matt Brown fixed it and Matt Brown fixed it with uh Lou Simmons the same guy who created that reverse hyper he's Westside barbell I mean he went through a bunch of exercises and a bunch of different things to fix it there's ways to fix it depending upon of course how bad the injury is with some people it's herniated to the point where they have to remove the disc tissue and either put a spacer in there or to fuse the two discs together spacer is generally thought to be the better move for
athletics that's what I thought they did with Kane no no they they did a disectomy because if they did a spacer he's out for a long time because you there's no there's no wrestling going on for a long time he's out for a while though correct just a few months I just can't believe that that Jon Jones took Daniel down twice double leg right I mean he took him down the first round never would have thought that was possible that's strong he is too like Frank Mir said he's like wrestling with Jon Jones nobody realizes how strong and so did so did uh I would assume he's stronger now he's so crazy strong I don't know if it's leverage but uh it's all the above he's also been the same a Jo national champ he's also a nightmare didn't he cradle Ryan Bader didn't he cradle him was it was it Bader he did that to where he just put him in a cradle and just he beat the out of
Ry I mean he literally beat didn't beat the out the way Rumble did that was terrifying yeah rumble's terrifying he scared I want to see Rumble fight uh Jon Jones that that's gonna be it's whether or not Rumble can continue that sort of you think takes him down deep into the second third people are going to figure it out they already have figured it out yeah well Daniel did you drag him the later you avoid the big punch drag him the later rounds Tech can a guy like him can a guy like Rumble change he's obviously changed and gotten way better in the avoiding the weight cut becoming a real natural 205 pounder can he change in far as like not being able to be broken the way DC broke them the way Josh C broke way vtor Belford broke him I don't think you're born with it but it's a part of your personality so whether whether or not you allow your mind to go down those P sport
psychologist could probably help you right I disagree maybe maybe is it possible I don't think so but hold on a second who's been broke but how can you say it's not possible because it's mental if it's mental it's most certainly possible you don't think it's a personality trait it's not possible for me to win the high jump I I don't have it that's physically imposs right now for him for him though it's it's a mind issue well why why couldn't a man adjust the way he looks at the world isn't it possible that you could through a rigorous disciplined like very focused attempt to change the way you approach various scenarios and dilemmas isn't it possible that you could change your thinking and wouldn't that be more likely that you could become more mentally tough than it would be that you would be like this physical free cuz it because it's a physical thing and cardio
makes brings out the weakness in people so it what are you going to do you're going to put them through these crazy cardio challenges and have a mental coach there now here's the point where usually break let's keep going well here's what I think first of all I don't think he did nearly enough Gra before I think that was a big part of the issue was he was getting mad doed by a guy who is an Olympic caliber wrestler in Daniel Cory he was just ragging him around no he did I bet he did crazy wrestling no I no he didn't I know he didn't now he's got Neil manans who's a giant Neil huge fantas Grappler might be deep deep knowledge of submissions also a lot of catch he's really he's very knowledgeable about catch wrestling also understands big man Jiu-Jitsu he's a big and if you're rolling with that guy guarantee you spending some time on your back he gave Randy
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black belt he's ran a coutour coach forever what his stud Neil malanson he's a stud this is how crazy Neil manans you ready for this Neil malanson had a broken toe they said Neil you're going to have to be off the mats for six months he goes cut it off the Ronnie lot Ron lot did that yeah dude he had his toe cut off so he could keep rolling oh no come on son I go going backal fortitude going back to the mental thing I with a mental Coach man I think sometimes there's just I don't know man I think some people it's just in their DNA they just break easier than others I don't think it's a DNA issue what I think it is is it being a big strong tough guy and being used to being in the hammer and then when you're the nail you can't handle it and you fall apart because it's an you're UNC you're unaccustomed to it rather than a guy like here's a good example Darren Elkins you can hit that with a
baseball bat and he keeps coming forward he's used to getting beat on he's not a big guy he's a tough guy Jon Jones isn't though look at him with J Jones is a stud barely trained was getting beat up Jon Jones has two big brothers and his bigger brother beat his ass all through his life and I think he's accustomed to getting his ass beat by his big brother I think his brother Arthur did him a fantastic service and being bigger and kicking his ass that helps for sure yeah do help I think it goes in two ways either you're born with it like you said or some you know traumatic event in your life that maybe it's has something to do that maybe it doesn't but it switches on that quit in your in in your mind and your body some of it's just mental some of it's physical your body gives out or your brain gives out I think there's multiple ways to look at it obviously
Vinnie shoran could fix him yeah Vinnie Shan's a hypnotist yeah shout out to my my my mind coach Vinnie but uh that's what he calls himself mind coach it's I think it can definitely be a learned behavior to to quit whether it's you got taught that or you got that imposed on you where someone made you break when you young it's a habit there a lot of ways to to go about it you know not saying something bad happened in his life maybe it was something good that made him say Well this I'm out you Bo you boys don't think at his level he's gotten a mental coach you don't think he's ever talked to a mental coach sure there's a lot of Fighters that have never gotten a mental coach like I asked Cowboy about it and he's like like cowboy laughed in my face Cowboy never had a mental coach has he hold on do you think Cowboy's had a mental coach I don't know why you making
that face I don't know you think he's a liar no how dare you what what do you when when you're kind of when against the ropes here how do you talk to yourself like what do you do I'm my worst own my My Own Worst Enemy so I I just talk to myself or it depends sometimes I'm going in I feel great and some days I just sit there and I'm like wow I'm like going out for my last fight sitting there backstage and just slumps in the chair yeah why I I don't know this was after working with Vinnie though no no I I started working with Vinnie after this and you know personal problems with me it's always like women problems and and money how dare you let a girl affect your fighting hey let me ask you this it's happened before it's not GNA it's going to happen again everybody does but but I I say this same as any other job and I'm sure with stand up some nights and I
felt this way there's probably three fights man any other night I'm down I just don't feel like fight fting tonight for whatever reason I just don't feel like it well stand up is way more relaxed I know I'm just saying for your job I'm sure there's nights when you're performing fromont of a thousands of people you're like damn I really don't feel like doing that and it's usually the same thing it's usually a girl thing like you get in a fight with your girlfriend or something like that and you you go out there you just don't feel funny I up when I have an acting job this is GNA sound crazy but sometimes when you have an audition like think about this and it's three pages it's just three pages you can do it in your sleep guess what it's the it's it's the network test you go in there there are probably 15 people all you have to do is just do three pages I've gotten
myself there between me and another guy right if I get it I'm I will make a million dollars I will make $1 million for the year and I won't have to work for it it's a sitcom I'll make a million dollar just do what you did just do three pages it's no big deal it's like don't miss that putt that's when I get nervous that's when I myself see I went when I went out for news radio um there was two auditions for news radio one was a cattle call there was like a 100 people this giant long line I was like and I had a development deal with NBC and I I I just didn't know that I was going to be a part of a cattle call I was like this is crazy and I went in and the script was not funny like on purpose they had decided to write it where they were going to weed out all the hams they didn't want anybody to to read it like like what am I supposed to do they they wanted to weed out all that
so I went in I read it and uh I I remember um I talked to my manager he was like how' it go I go man the script wasn't funny I mean I just I pretended it was really happening that's all I did I just did it like it was really happening and so then um there was only a few people that apparently made the cut and then I went in there for the second audition it was me and three other dudes who looked like they were about to ship off to Vietnam they were sweating and they were pale and you know I was 26 at the time so I was only like 4 years removed from my last fight or something like that and I looked at all these guys all nervous and sweaty and I sat on the couch and I put my feet up and I didn't even read the script I just sat back and I did it like in front of them what's up I was like like you you guys don't know how to perform Under Pressure I go this is
going to be great and I sat there and I like looked at the script a little bit I'm like this is and it was and it was funny that's the way to do it and I had prepared so I knew that it was funny so I was I was ready but when I saw these guys all sweaty it's like there was three three or four guys I think but they looked like they were just terrified one guy was doing it he was like he was like practicing by himself like that ain't getting looked at the other guy the other guy looked like he was about to get shot they looked like they're about to die yeah and so that alone gave me massive confidence and I went in there super loose super loose and relaxed cuz I'm like if it's between me and these I'm like I got it for sure def it yeah and they can sense that concept that's way to do well yeah well I I did it on purpose for the guys I was like I was competing against these guys I was
like I'm G to make yeah that's a huge ADV I never get I don't get I'm not nervous by Nature I don't get nervous when I have to perform ever and that's the only time because my mind is telling myself it's so ridiculous to be nervous that I'm literally sabotaging myself where I ridiculous be nervous ridiculous it means you care and you want thinking about the wrong things think about the wrong things money you're not being in the moment you're thinking about the consequ the money they can't do that you're doing it for the wrong reason then doing for the re I don't want to act I've never then you shouldn't be there I've never once got in the fight being like God the money I'm going to make or if if I win say I've never once ever in my life thought about I think it's cuz I'm lying I think it's because I'm lying to myself when I go into those auditions like I go and I get I I go all
the way and then I get in there and I now it's just do this and I think it's because I'm being a liar I think you might be self sabotaging yourself because you don't want to be there right because I I've never done Mone I didn't want it to end well so with the you say but there was at one point in time there was at one point in time you deeply wanted to be on a sitcom like you it was all you wanted to do you weren't even doing standup For a big part of our friend I was acting a lot I was doing a lot of plays I was doing a lot of you were also pretending to be an actor it was gross you were like you talk like one of them you say they talk like one of them bit you relax when he's around Executives like it was he was talking about a woman you like anytime someone would bring up a woman he would immediately be like super Progressive and like overemphasize how
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good good she is she's amazing oh my God she's amazing and I'd be like what she's not that good what are you talking about be talking about like a female I can't believe you guys were friends from the jump that's what's crazy to right off the bat right the besties because we never cuz we never bullshitted each other I mean there was no like uh I wasn't pulling the wool over his oh my God he was on the in the worst environment the worst environment in my opinion is those sketch shows because everybody's scrambling and being competitive to get and he was the only one that was cool well him and Arty Arty was cool as Arty Lang and it was him and Arty Lang the only ones and me and Arty had a scene together and I had a scene with Brian but then there was all these other people that were on the set that were brutal this is Mad TV oh my God the comp he was our guest they
weren't mean to me everybody was fine with you look back at those videos you I think I sent you that picture you guys are so young we in our could believe it in our known Joe since I was 27 dud so funny look look at my hair it's so beautiful I miss it so much look at count I miss it so much godamn that chick was really funny man what was her name that's Mary Shear the great the great Mary Shear who's to this day is the funniest female actor she's probably the most talented person I've ever worked with was so funny you're back then I have a beautiful body I'm going to take my shirt off after this he pool boy he had this great character that would dance around was that a wig you were wearing or you bleach okay that was a wig highers Speedo I got a lot of gay fan mail and a lot of fan mail from jail and I'm not kidding I still have the letters I got from jail from jail yep
that um woman um she she used to wear like leather skin makeup to make herself looked like she was over tanned and she had this crazy character we had Jennifer Aspen who is a multi-m award-winning U makeup artist and she did like magical Joe when when did you decide acting just acting well I really love news radio and it I loved it because I was s it was just the best case scenario fantastic writing great talented actors you know all the above was and it never was successful which is perfect because everybody had to keep trying and nobody ever got a big head it just it never made it you know it barely putt putt putt barely stayed alive it was a perfect environment like with some really talented people still one of the greatest sitcoms ever in my you enjoyed the whole process like I didn't enjoy as much as I enjoyed standup but I I enjoyed it immensely and
way more than I enjoyed um any other things after that I saw after that I I had development deals for like a year or two where I um which means what they give you some money and they try to put together a sitcom and is based around you and then I got a chance to see what it's like and just actors are like the worst comedians without punchlines like the worst comedians meaning not like the worst like not funny but mean the the most crazy the most neurotic the and the the actual act itself of auditioning and trying to get gigs it enforces that it you're always trying to get people to love you you can't always looking for approval but you can never just be be at peace you're always worried that you have to say the right thing you have to be liberal if you're not liberal if you are a republican you better be Uber successful before you come out as a rep yeah you have to be you
have to say those things like you have to be super Progressive you have to be super left-wing and you also you you got to like you got to like play this political game where everybody is fake they're all saying fake things and just it feels so gross and coming from Comedy from the East Coast doing standup from going from fighting and then standup to this I can't see you being what the I can't see you did it for 5 years I I get my throat gets tight when we start talking about I think it's cuz it's all like nothing drives me more nuts when guys pose especially if they're not Fighters if they're Fighters I get it it's the thing but when they put their fist up for a picture and there I told Brian go what the is this and we know we both know this guy it's a picture of him and his friend with their fist up I go why the do people do this why do they what is this I won't even you will never
see me put my fist up any I never do it it's a to it's such it's so weird to me people have asked me to do it with them hey put your F fist up for this pict I go no can't do it they always want to square off with me and get my like no no come on fist but you'll see like big dudes I'm not going to say who the guy is but he's a big guy in the picture on Instagram he's like I told Bri why the you think he does that he goes cuz he's not really tough it's like an ego thing you know like well there's also like a culture thing they think that it's a cool way to stand I don't know it's like doing this doing the Shaka like I don't know it's oh I take the sh Shak fun saying it's like that's it's one of those things like other people are doing the Shaka you do the Shaka it's like the will frell thing in Talladega kns I don't know what to do with my hands though starts covering his
face it's his first interview love that movie like you know he I don't know what I love that movie yeah I love that movie Tom Cruz use your witchcraft R around I like how they put the view right in his face too and he's running around I love how his buddy's in his house and he can't figure out how to work as system cuz his buddy's banging his wife now calls he calls him he goes how do you turn on the radio why do you want to listen to the radio in the TV at the same time cuz I like to party he's in his house and he cut out his picture and put his head on family picture how about how about when he's paralyzed when he's paralyzed like you're not paralyzed he's in the hospital they stab a knife in his good that and Step Brothers man he's so he stayed amazing like will frell is just his ability and and nobody nobody has a bad thing to say about him John ryell is a
great guy great guy he's a great guy competitive too have friends who played golf with him and they were like he's a competitive guy he's not letting you win yeah that was such a great movie look at his eyes look at his eyes and the intensity he's just and that girl Leslie bib that was in that movie she's great I did zookeeper with her she played my girlfriend in that movie zookeeper and there's a movie that I did but I only did because Kevin James is my buddy and he asked me to do it I didn't have to audition just he just asked me to do but you're not you're acting but you're not you're not like a character yeah that's the other one here comes the boom I played myself that's right that was when he was going to be an MMA fighter I only had like a couple scenes in that one there's a bunch of guys in that Miller yostin just a paycheck at that point right well it's a buddy of mine asking
me to do something but the Zookeeper one was fun and I it was a kids movie and I was like that' be cool for my kids to see it's silly a bunch of monkeys talking to each other and I have been doing this thing with firing the kid for Fox these episodes and to me acting is so I don't understand it's like Music actors it's so Myster athletes whatever man I don't give a I get how they get their hard work talent but the acting to me is so it's so different they're like aliens doing a good job they're aliens to me it's just it's a weird occupation it's very weird and people take it so goddamn seriously and they think it's so special when people do so well you know Chris Rock had a great line that he was preparing before before he was doing the Oscars he was like if you go to see the Grammys they're singing you know like the Oscars they don't even act no one does anything
they don't act they don't do it's the most boring a warship he's like I've I've hosted it twice I don't know what the going on it's true how crunk were people that Leonard di Cabrio won you probably don't even watch it but people were so crunk this guy with 275 million one even I was Crown who cares yeah it's insane it's an award it's award for your your make beleve you're really good at make believe you guys gave to each other I just don't I don't care I like movies but the award shows to me are so nonsensical whether it's award shows for comedy or award shows for music or what I don't care it doesn't make any sense to me here here's the here's the reward do people like it do they go to see your movie do they enjoy it then you win it's like this idea that there's one better movie than all the other movies is stupid that is weird because it's a human thing to
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Crown a champion how the did X makina not win I didn't see how did that not win best movie I see it rever yes EXC sir re rever I know I always I was I have a speech I was thr R XM was a really good movie y I liked it it was slow was amazing re re R didn't do it for me man the story wasn't invested in the Char so I can't comment but character makina in the running for best movie uh no then your movie theater thing is you're movie theater is Mad Max cleaned up though what Mad Max da a movie I thought was pretty good I thought it was all right it's a remake pretty unique though it was fun not really it's a remake I knew what was going to happen he was going to survive yeah you know XM I did not know what the was going to happen and I was wrong at the end see don't tell me I got say x m is a goddamn great movie they were nominated for a bunch of special effects Awards I not
this Oscar I think they won something for special effect did they Jamie I don't think so did It win I didn't see a sniff of that movie I didn't that movie is not allowed in that did you see it have you seen it no good godamn it's hey man it's godamn dude you know what I can't get enough of and I highly doubt anyone here's watching it but the OJ Simpson thing on F everybody keeps telling me that I suck I was at the store the other night and uh they had it in the back Comics bar they were watching it and the Cuba gunning Jr plays OJ which I did not know I was like what dude Johnny Cochran in that movie when the guy gives a racist thing Oscar win is a Triumph what is it for low budget visual effects ah well boom there you go it should have won for visual it's a godamn fantastic movie to watch it it's a fantastic movie it's one of my all-time favorite movies wait is it
happen in space Oh yeah no no no no no no no it's about artificial intelligence it's about a guy who builds artificial people it's amazing did you see AI with Will Smith is that what it's called AI it's not the same this is way better robot no that was good was good that was good this is way better really it's one of the best movies I've ever seen completely mie it's my top 10 all-time favorite movies God damn Rogan 100% it's right up there with Apocalypse Now to me all right for real son it's a great movie it's also the implications people right now scream they Twi you piece of it's opinions ladies and gentlemen we all have op that's what you like but um the there's something about it also to me because this is a subject that I am engrossed in like almost every day I read about artificial intelligence almost every day I get up I'll go to scientific America I go all these
different websites and I I search I will look up artificial intelligence go to news read the latest and I am is one of the main subjects that repeats in my mind like a metronome all day long that's your thing so that's why you love the movie it's going to change it's going to change our entire paradig I think it's going to be the future of government I think I I really do I think we're going to have rules that are established by artificial intelligence and that's going to how that's going to be how we decide and act and how we decide and make choices damn the robots are going to start running I really do believe that I think that's going to be the solution to the cult of personality that we're dealing with right now with Donald Trump being the front runner for president how crazy is that I got to tell you right now Hillary Clinton is not going to beat Donald
Trump what I yes she is no she's not he doesn't have a chance you're out of your mind that's tell the numbers the numbers any political Pent the numbers just don't add up for Trump that's not true the numbers they were saying the numbers didn't add up for him 6 months ago when they said he didn't have a chance he's the front runner by far unless something changes he's got to say this to to get acting gigs I don't like either one look up the numbers hey Brian I don't have a dog in the f I don't like either of them let let me statement you make the statement Jamie look up the numbers Hillary Clinton's uh what is it support approval approval waiting versus Donald Trump let's just look at this and then you comment before you go she's going to win the election first of all she has huge problem in that she's involved in a criminal inves she might be indicted
that's a big is that's the Black Swan and the the big the big issue is that email thing I had Mike Baker on formerly CIA operator CIA oper operative and uh he was on yesterday and he was saying anybody else he said if it was me that did the same thing she did I'd be in jail yeah you know he was talking about how they cut and pasted yeah okay let's see what we got here what is what is the red and what is the blue Red's Trump Blue's Clinton so she's way ahead of us 43 to 46 43 to 46 what is that graph then why is she above him the what that representing time I don't understand that graph what does that graph mean then percentage of votes poll poll average she's way ahead she's she's way ahead in African-Americans and in Latino votes and there's no way he's going to cover close that Gap well she's 3% ahead she's also got majority of the Democrats from what I understand women well I think it
really having a tough time with women too who's going to be with and who's going to be with him I can't believe those going be the running mates everybody will be with Trump except for no I mean running mates oh running mates who's going to be his running mate Chris Christie no way is that fat SLO endorsed him his fat ass endorsed cares you can't you can't you no you can't have an addict by the way that guy's an addict with food yes he's an addict there's no question about it that guy got a stomach stapled and he's still fat he's crazy fat did he burst through it or yeah did you see him pitching the at the base disgusting awesome but he's he's eating terrible Foods it's a terrible thing to and I'm not fat shaming but I'm saying if you're going to have a leader you cannot have a leader who's by the way hugely anti- marijuana he said marijuana if I'm the
president we're going to Outlaw all this stuff you dummy you don't even understand what you're talking about Fatt you're you're doing something that's way worse for your body than marijuana ever will be preach I just don't understand who he's gonna be like running with if it's Rubio he's got a real chance look at this right here super they could Doom the gops poll show both Clinton and sers smoking Trump H it's not going to happen sorry uh Donald Trump's not goingon to be the president something crazy happens to Doom the GOP Bernie Sanders beat Trump but that's polls man polls are only people willing to answer polls and they were really bad polls used to be representative of the winner they would go exit polls they were so off with with bush versus kry they were so off that they haven't they haven't been accur polls they're just numbers I mean most of the political opponents who really
are in the know Bri bullshitting he does this thing where he calms down and instead of getting emotional he just like well there's more more he gets like I think his dad used to like chastise him when he would say something stupid his dad would my dad would do the opposite oh no my dad yell oh no no he wouldn't do that no my father would do this go ahead and start making a start making a point watch just try to do is look at this chrisy faces calls to quit approval drop after backing Trump I wonder why newpapers as six newspapers calling for him to resign wow God what newspapers who are they uh people with opinions why are they count asking him to resign resign what though as a governor of New Jersey yeah why for endorsing Trump he's just not a good leader he's not he's not a wise man he says foolish things who's this Trump no Christie Trump I think Trump is more of a showman I think
christe narcissist Trump's an Entertainer Christie says foolish things he says foolish things that aren't backed by science he's very discriminatory when it comes to my my beloved marijuana I can't listen to Chris Christie when you're that fat I just can't take you serious yeah and that's it seems noine I don't agree with that a little har no it's he's no dis Winston Churchill who drank and first of all that's English the idea that somebody has a weight problem and they wouldn't be an effective leader to me is uh doesn't hold water at all really who's the fattest president we've ever had who's the obese president that's not an effective argument OB people are prejudicial when they Chill from a long time ago and alcohol was celebrated then as a manly thing to consume if you took the fat if you took the fat ratio if you took a whatever it is the body fat test on some
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of the CEO or great inventors or scientists or whatever they were I I I don't know that what are you talking asked for I'm talking about presidents there's no fat president yeah you don't have any numbers right now there's never been a fat but I mean the idea that because somebody's fat means he has no discipline that guy's not just fat true first of all that's not true hold on he's not just fat ridiculous hold on he's not just fat he's a fat guy who's undergone an operation and not be fat anymore and he's still fat well I'm saying that you can be you can be not disciplined in one area of our life but have a huge brain and a huge int right but he doesn't have that either but he says foolish things and he's fat he's a different story I'm just saying in general somebody when you say when you generalize and say I could not vote for somebody or take somebody seriously as a
leader because they're fat for me I disagree I'm saying for me I for it's discriminatory yes it is but it's also judging someone based on their own personal choices the choices that you make to be an addict and to not seek out healthy food and to seek out body Harmony his body is out of whack he's like grossly overweight and he went through going under like he he gave in saying that like I don't have the discipline to deal with my issue so what I'm going to do is go to a doctor and get cut open so my stomach is smaller doesn't matter that there a lot of great writers steepen King Stephen King had a major ALC don't say that that doesn't matter that's not related the major alcohol problem that he had was part of his creative process and then he recognized was a giant book he wrote a book about it book on writing I've got it right so I read that book too and
what did he say in the book he said he talked about how he used to drink and do Coke and he would find these it was a part of his process he realized it was killing him he stopped doing it Christy is still eating like a pig Stephen King makes a very important DEC not a leader he's an artist he's an artist he's not a leader of the United States I understand if you don't want to vote for your leader cuz he's heavy what I'm saying is that the idea that somebody wouldn't be effective because they have a weight problem is erroneous doesn't hold water and I'm saying just tell me the biggest pres we've ever had in go who's the who's the most pres that's not a good argument though because because give me one we don't have a bald presid Howard ta he was pretty fat he's thicker than a Snickers right there was he good especially back B he's huge but was he was he a
good president also a really long time ago too yeah Taft was only in in power for a very short period of time it's also back when people were starving to death like when you were fat it was awesome when people like that were money eating exactly eating and eating and eating and having being rich that's all I think I'm reacting to the fact that we live in a culture now where you know you you want that as your president the out of here that's not looking so good he's also got this like upper fat that is so un it's called it's called a FAA yeah the upper fatan come on she wiiz that's a terrible and this is go go meet with the other leaders of the world you might be right this is a so post surgery you have to understand like the discipline issue it's a real discipline I fired an agent I we were talking on the phone he was great on paper I met him in P I've seen
he was letting some stuff slip I'm like that's weird me in person he's 400 lb gotta let you go man there obviously there's some sort of discipline issue there has to be but that you can be indisciplined in one side of your life and very disciplined another what I'm that is true that is true that it's compartmentalized and sometimes you do have an issue and clearly that is a a food issue but you I don't want the I don't want the president of United States struggling with his diet when he has to make these huge decision that's the biggest fight in his life and his health is iner King makes an interesting distinction just we brought him up and he said I was a very talented guy with a substance abuse problem that's what he said he said a lot of people make the mistake of saying that my substance abuse was the reason I was so talented he said not true no that's not
necessarily what he said what he said was that the creative process was enhanced by his substance abuse problem he says that's not the case but I'm a King fan his that he wrote when he was up was better way better he writing he's also an artist big difference man I want my artist doing some I wouldn't want Stephen King when he was coked up balancing my checkbook okay I mean but expanding your mind he's got get there yeah you need to have discipline to be a president you need to be a healthy person you also need to be a role model it's like it's not it's a figure head for the United States of America it's not as simple as I see what you're saying Jack Kennedy was a was a huge ier that consider it's a different thing man it's a different thing first of all and we we didn't know no one knew back then he's a slob it's like right in front of his face yeah it's a different world back
then the world was different you could also say it was a breakdown in in in self-control right in one way or another maybe or it was just standard operational procedure also don't become a leader by just dating one CH well that's what I'm saying is that they were dick Slingers they were presidential dick Slingers his dick slinging might be food though is all I'm saying well it it's a different thing though because it wasn't inter it wasn't interfering with his health like Chris Christie's physical body is 10 years massively is like massively falling apart and the guy got a operation and it didn't do much I mean he's still grossly overweight I mean he used to be way bigger that doesn't bother you at all K I almost want my president a super feel like you're kind of being a contrarian here I actually don't know if it bothers me or not what I was let me tell you I
mean like I understand and I think it's a good point explore it what it doesn't bother you you say you don't know if it bothers you expl heal health is important for presidents like they have to go through all those health checks that's why Trump came out and they said they said I'm in great shape what's up President Obama beast in shape I I think that I think that I'm not trying to be a contrarian at all I I understand and respect somebody's point of view where they say you know what you are not able to control your own biology therefore I wonder what your judgment would be like as a leader 100% valid well you're judging a person when they're running for president you're 100% judging and we Jud massively short in the department of taking care of his own physical being yeah most of us and we know that most of us when we hire somebody if one guy's in shape the other
guy's not we're going to just instinctively go we're going to make those conclusions and that in a way is fair in terms of how you look at the world where you say you know what if you can't control your own biology I wonder else what else you can control and as a fat person you know you're walking into that or at least have to take responsibility for whatever the world Judes I don't buy this it's so hard thing I just don't buy it I just lost 10 pounds and I didn't wasn't even fat it's different different why is it you're saying you're saying even if he's overweight you can still make good decisions why it different why is it different for me than it is for him I'll tell you how I think some people for example have a predeliction not only to put on weight because their endocrine system is just whacked but also some people do have addictions and addictions
are very power said he's an addict yeah and some people I want to addict as my president though what I'm telling you K whether it's drugs alcohol what I'm saying is that what I'm saying is that to just we live in a culture now that just was put so much emphasis on the physical and I think there are a lot of people who have been overweight and who have eaten too much or had a thing for sugar who still are Inc incredibly beneficial and to society anded things and done things that you know that and they were just they were huge int they were huge intellects yeah well that's a different story but they were huge intellects yeah well there's a lot of smart people that are fat for sure but that's you don't want them running the Big Show there's a difference between someone who's a really smart fat person who's a great singer or a smart fat person who's really good at telling jokes there's a
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big difference between that and a president a president is not just a guy who can talk to this guy and make good decisions he's a figurehead for the the United States of America the greatest superpower the world has ever known for us to say Chris Christie is the best we could do is a disgrace different subject like you you have to cover all your bases you have to cover all your bases it's exactly the subject what's that you're talking specifically about Chris Christie I'm talking about somebody with that's what we talked about we talked about I reacted to no I reacted to I don't know if I could I I don't want to vote for somebody who looks like that like him to me yeah yeah him and for me it wouldn't make as much he's the only one in the race Brian he's the only one you're arguing semantics now cuz that's the one guy who looks like that he's the only guy I mean Trump's not skinny he's
a fat too if you saw Trump without I his clothes on you throw up exactly Trump compared to him Trump compared to him though is a Welcome To My Nightmare all those guys together look I saw I'm I'm sure there's Rubio flexing on them fools first of all who are those other people you got Ted Cruz and Chris Christie Marco Rubio ran Paul Carson you got Ben Carson who's that other guy I think Dennis Kasich I think that's Dennis he's the governor of he's govern done a very good job yeah then you have uh Donald Trump je knows he's alive Ohio voting for that guy je Jeb Bush has always put on way too he's got he's always had a problem how is this guy still in there that kishish guy what he was very effective as photos come out of all those guys so expensive gay orgy it's so weird me finally I'm what's left man stand again all I'm thinking about is the MMA fan going what the man
where's the breakdown talking about Chris we didn't promise it about we warned you we we talked about Connor for an hour no 10 minutes Connor about we broke some of the fight what do you think about who's going to win that fight thank you jie Jamie just put theck back on let's go yeah I hate this Chris Christie talk makes me angry yeah I'm horrible politics I just was watching you guys the the New Jersey thing man that's my state where I was born and that that reminds you of a lot of it reminds you of lot of that he did with the bridge the shutting down that bridge dude political decision to make to do that is so Fu that's criminal that's criminal shut down a bridge to try to I don't want to talk about it get angry get pissed off let's go let's go to fights so we have the size difference what are their heights I guess it doesn't really matter I think Nate is taller aall he's three
inches taller and he has a two inch reach Advantage it says two yeah hm that's interesting that's going to play a big factor because obviously Connor moves in so much um isn't used to fighting the bigger guy but now he is but the thing is is he's if you've seen pictures of Him video of him he's huge right now yeah I like the leg reach thing he's he's got longer legs me too yeah and he uses them there you go exactly he uses them real well and really well at distance it's not like me where I just want to step in and Club your legs he's trying to trying to trying to negate that gap between him and you and he likes to throw a lot of front kicks to the body like you did with Chad M pain in the ass effective against a like Diaz let me ask you this Uncle creepy how about uh uh W with Connor he's always been the bully right he's kind of bullied the 145 Division and then now here there's no
way you know he's just not bigger than Diaz so it's I think it's the first time we're really going to see him where his size isn't going to be that Advantage anymore but he's pretty goddamn big right now he was he was training for fight at 155 which means he ate like a pig fought at 155 in in the UK so he's fought at 155 before and starch guys with one shot I absolutely believe his power carries over to 155 and this fight is essentially at 170 but it's these are 155s that don't have to cut weight that's what's going on they don't have to cut weight because it was part the agreement when Nate took the fight they took it at a catchweight well you know Diaz was down to go to I think 165 or6 and Conor goes no no no man I want you to I want you to have the advantage here and the weight we're going to make it 170 don't kill yourself he didn't want to cut weight look and he shouldn't I
think listen I think this is the future and I really truly hope that people decide to fight at a much more reasonable weight class I think they decide to do this where they fight where they actually belong and stop this dehydration proc process man it's Madness it's the worst aspect of MMA the most dangerous aspect of MMA the scariest now because there's no IV rehydration so these people are going in there with dehydrated brains and they're taking shots of the Dome I think it's stupid it ruins your chin it ruins your ability to fight at the best level and long longevity longevity also you got the the a huge X Factor too is Nate Diaz they go well he's getting ready for a triathlon I don't give a that's not five rounds of fighting in the f c I don't care what you're doing there's no way you can make up for that well I don't know because I don't know what
else he was doing other than training for the triathlon I don't know if he was doing Jiu-Jitsu I don't know if he was boxing I know he was definitely training for a triathlon though which means it's not like you caught him sitting on the couch doing bong hits and eating Cheetos the guy's in really good shape different shape it is a different shape but there also no wear and tear from a fight camp and that could be a big factor in his favor well Diaz did say he goes you know what to to me there's no pressure I mean he goes I've had I've had camps where I've had camps and I went in there and got my ass whooped then I've had times where I was sitting on the couch 3 weeks went into the gym beat everybody up he's like so for me it's you know it's just another day I think a big factor a really big factor is the fact that he doesn't have to cut weight and I think
it's a big factor for Connor too I mean we might see the best Conor we've ever seen because seeing him at 145 PBS that guy was on Des door the day before the fight the Chad Mendes fight he looked like utter dog at the weigh-ins and then the next day he's full and thick and probably 20 plus pounds heavier than he was at the weigh I'll tell you what gets scary is if Diaz does get McGregor down oh yeah that's scary oh yeah oh yeah for McGregor it's very scary you're talking about a high level Jiu-Jitsu guy with lots of submissions in has got some serious skills top and bottom too yeah really really good Jiu-Jitsu but see George Lockard has been working with George or with uh Connor for the last fighter too right so you know that he's not just eating a bunch of right he's putting I mean on a cellular level he's he's energizing his body with really really good high you know high
energy fuel stuff so yeah him putting on that much weight which is just more natural for him he's going to be so strong such good cardio so healthy so healthy if he gets by this I think you have to do UFC 200 if dos Angelos is ready if he bu him but what if I said if what if Nate Diaz lights him up I don't see that happen then we don't have to deal with this anymore well we do you want to deal with his though trust the sport needs it man I I get nervous cuz I don't want I don't want the Conor show to end like I want it to keep going I really it's magical it's magical because he is got the guts to talk so big and then just to go up to 70 and he's just yeah but I think I don't think Nate Diaz if he beats him I don't think he ends the Conor train I think he stops IT momentarily there's a regrouping and he comes back better than ever I I just don't I don't think losing
to Nate Diaz stops everything I think it definitely bump in the road man there's no more that undefeated Aura anymore well look at what happened to Manny Pacquiao he fought ju m one m Marquez and got knocked Dead face planted not the same not the same but he came back and still just as huge as he's ever been before a man it's not the same look at Floyd though like Floyd was huge right never lost even though his fights were boring we still tuned in he's still the best of all time he had like this huge undefeated aura about him he loses with his fighting style get the out of well if he loses well he's he's boring to watch but he's undefeated so that's why he also refused to fight some guys in their Prime like Manny Pacquiao five years ago six years ago was a fight yeah but stop stop right there because he had a real good argument that Manny Pacquiao was most likely on performance enhan
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refused to take the drug test so there's a reason why didn't fight and Manny moved up eight weight classes right I know and kept his knockout power look I don't know whether or not Manny did anything but that Alex arza guy that was with him that guy notoriously known for it yeah notoriously known for it that was his strength and conditioning coach and the the reputation is usually it's usually pretty ACC it's like having Jose cono in my corner and then being like I don't know man I don't know is 298 lbs it's weird he went up eight weight classes and Jose cono is his best friend not I think he's good man do those why do a lot of guys get purple like that what happens I guess it's like blood rushing to your skin or something I don't know they get they get they sweat they get greasy they're always flexing and they just yeah well also I think when you take a lot of
testosterone like that from what I understand like you devel you have more blood you have more blood in your system really yeah like this dude I knew who was on like heavy doses of testosterone his doctor he was going to he's doing some endurance thing and his doctor told him you should give blood you should take blood out of your body before you was going to do some crazy bike ride like you should get you take blood out of your body damn that's insane your blood thick I guess right you gets thick there's a theory that says that the reason women don't die of heart problems they don't have the kind of cholesterol issues is because they bleed once a month and and this guy said if you give blood once a year it might be the best thing you can do for your heart for for your body yeah why uh because apparently it keeps your blood thinner and so as a result you will and I'm by the way I'm
not a doctor I'm paraphrasing this guy so please don't kill me exactly but essentially he said you can lower your um lipid levels and and all this other stuff by giving blood once a year and it makes a huge difference wow uh it's a it's a school of thought it's been it's also been disputed just like a pint I guess it's been disputed what what what's supposed to be the benefit how does it lower your blood lip so I guess apparently you like you said you get thick you know your blood gets thick you get and and and it kind of ACC as I suppose like an aspirin would where you are your blood gets thin and then your body has to rejuvenate make more blood that is interesting that women don't get the kind of heart attacks that men do I always attributed that to stress well no it's estrogen I thought stress it's estrogen and it's also according to this couple of these doctors that they they
bleed once a month and that has an that has an effect on because they're evil creatures and Excuse excuse they give heart attacks they don't get them that's true remember I'd cut myself and suck on it like I thought like I you know i' come like oh stuck do you ever do that or we didn't cut yourself on purpose no I'd like fall down and scrape myself and suck the bo cuz I thought it'd go back in my body wrong wrong stupid well it kind of does kind of it just doesn't go back in your blood the nutrients go in your body You' think I want to go do a full like screening of like vitamins hormones everything I never done that have you done cryotherapy yet no let's go do it right now dude I got into a really cold pool and almost panicked that's not the same hurt balls were like that's not like a that's not like an ice bath it's not to to me it's the ice bath stronger
stronger I think for for me an ice bath is more effective well that's what um Iceman Hoff whim Hoff he said like for like your soul like your your resiliency and being able to overcome ice bath is better it's way longer because it's just you're you know you're pouring bags of ice in that water and you get in there and you're brutalized for 20 minutes some people swear by cryotherapy I did it my last Camp I did it four times a week and I didn't see much of a difference opposed to ice baths so I stopped doing with ice baths maybe it's a um like what you felt versus the actual anti-inflammation markers in your blood because they've definitely shown that there's uh there it reduces inflammation pretty radically better better than an ice bath I a little bit better because I don't I don't know I don't know how much how much has been shown that ice bath do I don't know I'm
more aware of what they've shown from cryotherapy but where where it's it really effective it's for people with arthritis this's this lady that goes to the place that I go to and this poor lady her hands are jacked man like her whole life her hands have been like this just like gnarled up Claws and she now for the first time in a decade can straighten her fingers out and she never thought about just filling up buckets of ice and put I know man it seems like you should right maybe I don't know what she's done before I should have asked her well it's it's like my I'm actually partnering up with a cryo place in Lake Forest it's you guys balls opening up March March 15th um we open up March 15th it's called therapy cryo Salon Lake Forest um my daughter has juvenile rant arthritis I take her in My Cry machine where am I the lady I used to go to Monica in Newport I coasta Mesa
well it sparked my interest and then I realized that it works you know like the The Sciences behind it I talking about how deep it penetrates I heard it penetrates deep ER than a ice bath I heard opposite but I've done ice baths my whole life they're way different they hurt my toes and feet so I'm always like trying to stick them out pain they're pain to do they suck how you sit in an ice bath typically 15 15 minutes yeah I do them both there's a there's a Korean bath house by my gym right next right next to it so did but and I and I don't know the have ice bath at a Korean bath house oh yeah I bet you're sweet ass my ass have to be sweet what am I betting I don't know aggressive you've never seen a small dick you've never seen a small dick until you've gone to a Korean bath house oh what are you trying to say is that racist no it's science does it smell like kimchi no see
all kinds of Dick uh all kinds of dicks at these places ramen noodles is like Japanese I think you got the wrong R either way man it's tiny but before you put your daughter in the cryotherapy chamber did you ever just have her take ice bath and did it help uh we put ice on her before but she was two and a half when she got taged no that's young she she didn't like ice but then we're also getting things like the hyperbaric chambers so you know with with her ailment or disease you know if she hasn't had a flurp in a long time it's because we feed her the right food she's gluten-free sugar- free the hyper chamber help well I haven't put it in one yet I haven't got one yet but the adjustments that you've made in the diet they've had a pretty big impact having a lwi inflammatory food diet is has for so she was running by 10 months I mean she was she's head of the curve really smart
then to see her not being able to walk poor little crib having brain fog that comes with with ra and I mean I I I was a mess you know and seeing her trying to butt scoot and then finally we started to do all the all the food the food has changed her now she's she we fixed her quickly we got on it right away and she's okay now yeah she's goods and you wouldn't notice it oh you would have no idea I mean there's no more she was limping a bit with sadun I guess whatever uh she got diagnosed when I tore my hip so we're both limping around the house and limping around Disneyland and limping around everywhere but I think it maybe kind of made her feel better so what what what did you you dairy free glutenfree process sugarfree processed sugarfree and how long did it take before you saw an impact not long it took maybe a month or two and then after 6 months I mean 6
months it was huge after a year it was I mean gigantic now what else do you do what do you give her any supplements fish oil or anything along those lines yeah I mean we mix in things like you know uh MCT oil or all this healthy some my family is very healthy my dad is my dad is the one that has kept this diet from falling apart realistically I call him not food Nazi but he's you know it's me and him raising my daughter together actually my mom just moved into my house my parents have been together for 15 years but they're together now now now they live together and I live there and I'm like oh cool I live with my parents and my kid after it's love that it's a cluster but I love them for it and then I you know I have that's awesome so they're doing that to help you and help your daughter that's beautiful and my mom my mom is a chef my dad's a very healthy
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guy so the food in my house is all geared around my daughter if I want to cheat on my diet I have to leave my house and I have to feel bad and I have to just sit in my my car and cry while you got to go through some while eat my gummy bears you know hilarious great man that's it's great that you could find something that quick that can make that big of an impact and like I said with this this diet that I'm on it makes me really consider the impact that food has on your body and this is one one of the reasons why I'm so harsh on that Chris Christie guy is because I don't want anybody that's a representative of the United States or of us or a leader that shows looks like the populist it shows this this willingness to give in I want that them to be exceptional you want to be exactly superhero it's also having some discipline and understanding that there's some severe consequences to not
having that discipline and when you're a massively overweight guy like that the amount of aches and pains that a role model so when kidss look up to you and they see this fat ass being the leader like well you know it's just amazing that a a young girl Who develops this horrible ailment can get relief so quickly just by adjusting your food it makes me never want to eat that again it really does it makes me want to cut all that stuff out of my life forever I think if Americans learned how to eat we wouldn't have like one of the biggest issues is always like healthc care and stuff like that I wonder how many ailments would not be a factor if people ate better well you know I watched this documentary with my kids on corn syrup or on syrup and uh sugar it was I forget it's called I think it's called that sugar documentary and we went through the supermarket and you
start grabbing things and looking at how much sugar is and everything subsidized in everything it's in everything it sucks and it it's it's so deeply ingrained in everything we do everything we eat sugar sugar sugar sugar it's you know fed up that other documentary talk about they point out so many good points um that sounded weird but it all makes sense you you turn around anything and there's sugar in it yeah and everything is is so manipulated the last time you guys had fast food well I haven't had anything anywhere near it in a month so started this diet I was trying to figure out when I started I had to go back and look at the clock or the calendar rather February 1st was the first day that I started the diet did you have fast food before that n well yeah I'm sure I did I ate at cat's Deli when I was in New York and I decided after I ate that that was
going to be the last this is going to be my last blowout meals I had two pastrami sandwiches I had a reuben and a corn beef sandwich not mad at either of those oh was delicious oh you don't miss that nope nope I'm good uh if I wanted to I could eat it but I don't want to no man the benefits are for a little bit of mouth pleasure here's the thing dude you know what I really like I like steak I like a fat juicy elk steak that I cook on the grill I like greens I like healthy food that's what I like when I sit down and I eat like a nice elk steak with some kale I feel great that's what I like that's what I crave I enjoy that that's my favorite kind of meal how long did it get you to get take out carbs before you felt like that dude I'll tell you what man I got got a headache the first couple of days that was weird um where my body was like I don't I hate to use the word detoxing
withdrawals going through detoxing man detoxing but that's what was going on it was was sugar it was sugar the sugar I think was the the headache thing cuz I'd cut out sugar before and I got a headache uh I think that's what it is I think can you drink on this at all yeah can a little but I haven't been you ever tried cutting out caffeine coffee yeah I tried that got sweat son that shivering I love mys when I write when I write like if I really sit down I'm trying to finish something I I drink way too much caffeine and I I took some time off after last time I did it this is a long time ago and uh last time I um went on like a a real binge where I was just drinking coffee all day every day for like a month that be today and then I went like just one or two days off and my head was killing me just like oh like it was in a Vice that was worse well it's probably like right up there with
the sugar thing the sugar thing was like for 3 Days 2 or 3 days I was fog sugar would be a big hurdle you know another here's another big hurdle when you convert from your body eating mostly carbs and like using that for fuel to trying to go into ketosis and burn fat for fuel you feel like a like you're weak like when I go to the gym or I'm lifting weights I'm trying to push like oh my God you still feel that way no it's gone it's gone I worked out today I felt great but the push part the the the begin like it's hard to get through things like like you have to have discipline this is what you got to do man you got to write I didn't write this down because I don't I mean I knew I wasn't going to cheat I just like this is how this is what I'm going to do I'm this is what I'm doing and so I did it but if you don't if you don't have that mindset or you're not used to doing that
kind of thing just write it down write down what you're going to do today today I'm not going to eat sugar I'm not going to eat carbs I'm not going to eat that and write that down every goddamn day and then check it off at the end of the day that way you know you did it if you just leave it to like The Ether just put it out there and just you and all wishy-washy with it you're not going to be disciplined you're just not so it's not an option so like I told you I had that dream that I was eating bread yeah like f I was dreaming I was like but it was only cornbread I had a dream that I was eating cornbread I had a dream I was eat two different kind bread and butter was another one was like uh like uh cheesy rolls you get it like Fogo to those those warm cheesy rules how about those cheddar biscuits uh Red Lobster yeah I don't go to Red lob little just hanging out in Brazil
walking around and grabbing those little bags of cheese balls I've never been to Brazil oh you got to go man oh it's great I give myself 10 years I'll look like Chris Christie you're fine kid it's just Why didn't know he was that fat by the way he's way way way lighter than he used yeah cuz you can't get your stomach St unless you're like well there was one picture where he's just morbidly obese yeah that was before uh that was after his surgery I want that guy as my friend not my president where he's wearing those uh those pants yeah I have a lot of fat friends too they're awesome yeah yeah look I have morbidly obese friends it's not that's not the issue no I don't have an issue with all that they're fun man I wish I was more like them it's just like there's a there's a position that is the most like highly valued position in the world that's the president of the United States you got
to be an X-Men you got to be a bad you demand a lot from your president from lead man there's no one like that that's running right now there's no one there's no one fits that bill and that's why it's so weird whoever fits that bill knows the damn well they don't want to be president exactly too smart well also the fact that you get so you get everything about your past gets raked over with a fine tooth comb are we way over 3 hours right now are we yeah we're way over way over thanks Chris christe Mother Let's wrap this up kids there he is look at that look at that Bri look at that oh no post surgery by the way I thought he was just a big Husky Guy come on bro that's he deflated that's what upper upper fat that's not even a manly gut like a manly gut is like Joey Diaz Joey Diaz has a manly gut can see can he see his no or is it too pushed into the he can see
it if he has a mirror strange uh interesting look right he looks comfortable though and a good lounge chair looks like somebody just put a bunch of warm cheese he looks comfortable warm cheese in a sack ladies and gentlemen the end I love the out of you guys so much fun to do love you buddy March 16th Irvine Improv Brian K and myself I will be there I will be there with my beautiful girlfriend beautiful tickets on us my man Denver um ice house tonight I think there's like 10 tickets still left uh Greg Fitz Simmons Jenny Johnson Tony hinchcliff who the else is on the show someone else who else Duncan Trussell that's right God damn it um that's it you and then uh Friday night um at the C theater at the MGM with Joey Diaz and Tony henchcliffe in Vegas holla that's it folks thank you so much see you soon byebye oh see you tomorrow with Burke kryer and Brian redband see you h