Judah Friedlander

00:00no levels Judah Freelander we don't give a about levels we're here to learn how to beat up anybody World Champ you're not wearing a World Champ hat dude it says it in Sign Language oh you crafty B these are actually the sever shrunken fists of my deceased opponents melted onto my hand now is that a real weathered hat or did you prematurely weather it no this is I've been wearing this hat for years really yeah oh okay so my mom keeps saying you should retire it but I keep wearing it no there's it's vintage now it's yeah it's been through battles it's been through Wars you know what you could do though for sure is you could sell those like the ones that you've worn for like a long time and people would gobble it up yeah maybe yeah see you know how like those uh do you know what a humiliatrix is no there's a lot of uh gals out there that uh make a living selling their old

00:49socks uh and uh they'll sell like uh various bodily fluids and excretions to dudes who uh have uh a thing for that yeah had this girl Sierra Lynch on recently and she uh educated us on this this world but uh so it's like vintage shopping but with a more personal touch to it I like how you put a spin on it man that's beautiful so you wrote this book which is how to beat up anybody yeah that was uh five years ago that came out now it's an instructional karate book nice yeah how much karate have you actually studied uh well no this this book is is basically a spoof of people who think they're great at it but are horrendous at it it's basically you know I teach you how to beat up ninjas and bigfoots but it's it's kind of like the worst martial arts instruction possible um and it's it's like a 208 page photo joke book basically I was and then yeah this is a new book that just

01:48came out um called if the raindrops United which is a book of drawings and cartoons that I did uh mostly single panel cartoons and most of them are comedy but I'd say probably 40% of the ones that are comedy are kind of like dark satire on big issues whether it's like uh yeah that one honest tits lying tits yeah that's a big issue that's a big issue out there well and it has to do with the nipples like you went Pinocchio yeah yeah it's basically a Pinocchio story told through nipples yeah yeah no that that's definitely not one of the more uh social commentary uh ones in there but uh I do like that one that's a good one and I do like lying nipples also I um nothing wrong with them yeah I like all nipples I don't me too I'm aan I don't discriminate yeah I've heard people say something like oh man I don't like when they have small nipples or like really

02:38pale areolas like just be happy you get to see them be happy someone shows you their tits I think we can call that white privilege let's call that white yeah let's call that exactly what it is but it's like no whatever I hear people complaining about like especially like you know it's like you're already getting laid what are you complaining about exactly you know it's like you can't complain about breasts I knew this dude knew this dude who was in a wheelchair he used to play wheelchair uh he used to play pool and uh he was like uh you playing tournaments and stuff he's like had all these physical problems like really unhealthy and uh was his wheelchair due to health reasons or okay gotcha yeah so he was you know as a physical specimen he was a mess but he was addicted to prostitutes and he um would only go for ones that had really well taken care of feet okay and he had

03:32this huge issue like if someone's feet were too big or if their feet like he was like freak out about feet like you would get like almost angry like and you want to go dude you should be happy that anybody wants to just hug you like if you could pay a couple hundred bucks and a girl will get naked with you like whoa that's a score that's also a story where you really got to like give respect to the people that work in the sex industry because yeah I have a lot of respect for them because people I think lot people don't understand you know what a a difficult job that is and think about like the woman who goes to him and you know she's being paid to please him and then what does he smell like yeah and then and then her foot's like an inch too long and he's mad yeah that's you know that's that's that's that's more of a hassle than being a barista at some

04:20coffee place or something like that way more way more the sex worker thing is a real it's a real issue with our puritanical culture that we we have this uh this prejudice against people that have sex with people for money like we don't we don't have it with any other thing that we enjoy we don't have it with people that cook for people for money or people that give massages for money or cut people's hair do a bunch of things that people don't necessarily want to do I have I have more respect for the sex worker because if you think about it we're a capitalist Society they're more capitalist than the rest of us you know they're they're well in a sense you know they're they're they're using their body for uh to make money you know but what's wrong with them in a sense they're athletes exact well they definitely are they definitely no they they are they are yeah it's kind of

05:07weird that it's still illegal though it really is weird I mean at a certain point in time becomes stupid if it's the thing that everybody wants the most if you if you across the board what do people desire more than anything at a certain time in their life it's going to be sex obviously it's food and rest and shelter and you know everyone wants to have a comfortable life and good friends and all that stuff but everyone who's sexually active whose Body Works it's functional yeah they want sex even people whose bodies aren't functional they still want that yeah and if you look at all advertising for no matter what product it is it's usually sex is the the the subtext of what they're selling yeah so here's someone that's openly and honestly selling it and then yet they get discriminated against it's yeah they get locked up I mean there's task forces designed to capture them

05:58yeah you know there's uh my friend Brian Ken I think he's told the story on the podcast before he was talking to some girl in front of uh a club in in New York you know Brian he's a silly he's a silly goose and uh some girls were he's like hey girls and they're like hey you want a date he's like a date well how much would that cost and she's and you know she said you know how much do you how much would you be willing to pay he goes $10,000 he got he got pulled in for that they they like literally were these women cops yes yes like he he said $110,000 was this recently no years ago okay I was going to say because like street hookers you don't really see in New York anymore but I remember like 20 years ago um you know you just going into like the Corner Deli and girl comes up to me and she's like hi you want a date and I was like you know you know the first time it happened to me and I

06:54was like I'm like I'm like first of all what's going on and then you realize pretty quickly you know the woman's a hooker and I'm like no that's okay but thanks how hot was she she was pretty hot yeah so if you if if she wasn't a hooker if she was just a person who thought you were attractive uh yeah I'd probably talk to her yeah but I'm like a germaphobe so I I yeah yeah I would how what level like how Mandel level uh black belt gold stand his is different than mine mine mine's kind of different uh I don't know how his mentally works but there's different kinds of OCD and and mine goes through various phases like some people will be a neat freak because or they might lock their door five times because they're afraid they oh maybe I forgot to lock it and then someone's going to break in uh but there's another kind where if you don't lock it like doing it like the exact you

07:46know physical motions that you're supposed to then something bad is going to happen to you that day like like you might get you might get cancer if you don't lock the door properly so that's why so that's why you might lock it 10 times it's like like you'll get some kind of a hex or a jinx on you that's a kind of thing that I have sporadically off and on I've had it for years you know sporadically in various yeah sometime it comes and goes you know and so when does it when does it go when you're feeling great about life and everything's going well and sometimes sometimes you think okay something's bad's got to happen now because things are going well us think about it that way I was thinking the other way that like when things are going well you think well I don't have to worry about the hex right now no no usually it's when I'm not busy like you know cuz then

08:27your mind cuz my mind is kind of always racing you know so if you're just if you're unable to just sit back and relax then your mind it just keeps racing and then if it gets on a negative thought it just you know Spirals and Spirals and spirals that's so common amongst Comics that we were just talking about that yesterday with Whitney Cummings she has like a kind of a similar thing where she has to constantly be active constantly be doing things and I'm kind of the same way I'm always doing something yeah right right is that's like is that a comedian thing like what the hell is yeah I don't know I mean like I like sometimes when I'm exhausted and stressed out I will go out to the comedy clubs and do two or three shows in one night and people say why are you doing that I'm like cuz it's actually the most relaxing thing I do it's like being up on stage for whatever reason that's

09:16where I'm most comfortable well and also it's really fun yeah yeah and that's the people forget it's a hell of a lot of fun I got a chance to see uh TIG nataro uh Natasha lerro and Jim Jeff last night what a show TIG nataro is hilarious the first time I've seen her live she's really funny where was the show at the Improv oh cool Jim Jeff was hilarious and oh my God Natasha lerro killed awesome oh she's got this Oprah bit I was screaming so funny man it's so funny but it's like to do standup it's like it's you know I mean it requires concentration and you have to work at it and all that good stuff but when it's when you've got the bits and when actually like you know in the you know you're in the zone and everything's going well it's so fun oh yeah yeah seeing people have a great time it's the most fun thing I do so it's what I would most like to do yeah

10:12yeah so that totally makes I've never like canceled the show because I was tired ever ever and the other thing is like you know I I'll feel tired when I'm leaving my house like oh I got to fire up I got to show in an hour but once I get there forget when you're on stage it's like everything's firing up man it's like and then when you're off you want to go up again it's such a beautiful exchange too you know it's and particularly I feel that way about like Hollywood clubs because you're not really getting any money you know well same with New York I mean in New York City you don't th those are the two cities kind of probably in the world you know that where in general when you're working those two cities on a nightly basis where there's multiple Comics per show you're basically you're basically working for free or very little money so you're doing it for the love of it and

11:00everyone is you know and everyone's doing it also because it's like these the fueling stations like the seller or the stand or the store and and these places where you go and all the other Comics are there and we all kind of fuel fuel up you know yeah and also comedy is something you can't practice it's not like guitar you can get at home stay at home be really go to guitar just by playing by yourself all day guitar but standup you have to go on stage otherwise you're not doing stand up yeah you have to go on stage also when you're working out bits because they take they take a life of their own up there like I'll write a bit out and I'll have like oh I got a great new bit I can't wait to try it right but when you're on stage that just takes turns of its own yeah I think it's cuz your mind's at least for me like my minds and like hyperdrive when I'm on stage so I might

11:47like I always carry around like you know little you know little little sheets of paper with like that's your sheets that's your notes with like a few like words on it or something you draw on them too huh yeah yeah what you dra well these are just some random like faces and dudes it's all penises why no well that's a tongue on a dude but it looks like a penis kind of yeah but uh so but yeah so I'll like I'll usually have a thought or like a sentence or maybe it'll be like a oneliner right and then I get on stage and then it'll let's it gets if it gets a laugh then I immediately I'm thinking all right how do I extend this and take it in another Direction and get another laugh you know how why do you do you have a ritual like why do you write them on paper why don't you put it on your phone uh I don't know I'm just pen and I'm more of a pen and paper person I am to

12:35to remember like before every set I have a a notebook that I bring with me everywhere when I do shows and before every Set uh like in my hotel room I go have a big show that night I'll write out my bits really yeah oh wow sometimes I'll write out my whole act I'll spend hours wow you I usually that's that's good I usually this is usually me before headlining a show and like I get there right when the right like five minutes before for I'm supposed to go on and then as they're saying my name I pull out a piece of paper from my pocket like all right let's go cuz I'm trying to remember a few of the new you know few new things but yeah I always forget stuff I do that too I mean but when I'm I feel like uh that the even though you don't have to do that sort of preparation the sitting in front going over all the material when I do do that everything comes out better yeah yeah no

13:25I I working you know I think you got to work offstage anal on stage but I I tend to work a little like I don't know I saw that Seinfeld documentary and it seems like he works almost completely offstage you know like like his act is written and then he goes up and says it you know that's what it seemed like from the documentary um I do I do more writing I'm about maybe 6040 where you know as far as offstage writing to onstage writing you know yeah I think you need both you know and people that don't write offstage I'm always like ah man you're missing out yeah yeah you you have to yeah yeah to get the most out how long you doing stand up now uh I started in ' 89 and when did you become world champion that was at some point you know it's you know it's I'm not great at math it's one of my weaknesses but it was uh that was a you know I was dabbling in it in the I would say mid to

14:19late 90s but it's it's changed the Persona has changed so much over the years but it's it's such a weird one that you've always stuck with like every time we see you got a world champion on yeah yeah it's kind of like it's kind of like when you get kned like uh sir Ben Kingsley it's like he's not fighting you know every day but he was still officially kned so he Still's got the title you and and theoretically I'm still undefeated so I still got the title but yeah no initially the world champion Persona kind of started as when I was a kid I was obsessed with Guinness Book World Records and I I always used to try to break them like when I was eight I tried to break the pogo stick record I think the record was like 13 hours straight oh my God and I did it for an hour straight without missing really and an hour when you're eight is like a really long time you know

15:08and I was I was so bored I was a little tired but I was so bored and and I was I was just like it all right this is not worth breaking this world record it's amazing that it's only 13 hours I feel like I that was at the time that was at the time you know that was in the 70s that was like in 77 there's a gang of World Records that people found out were pretty easy and they went wait I can do that yeah and then broke them I think there are there are yeah yeah there's got to be because probably people haven't even tried like the Guinness book is a fat book yeah it is it is and you can like come up with a world record like yeah there's the group that does that where they come up with ridiculous things that nobody else is doing and then you know it would be like it would be like a a light rock you know um juggling three of these the longest you did it and then then you get a world

15:53record you well didn't Dane Cook was it Dane or was it uh Chappelle who did the world record for the longest show I think they both had it at various times and then one of them broke the other I'm not sure who I think Chelle broke the Dan I think someone else that no one's ever heard of did like 28 hours so I think it was Tommy Tan in Ireland I think he did 28 hours straight or something like that W okay yeah yeah like okay yeah it's like it who wants to break that who's watching that show and who wants to break that yeah yeah what does it mean who wants to stay up for 28 hours straight yeah there's some weird world records man there's some like what is it about world record like I remember I wrote this article once about this guy who his world record was he had the longest fingernails ever I remember that guy he was in all the books when I was a kid and his they curl

16:40up and that guy has massive nerve damage in his shoulder and has a hand that he cannot use for anything can't use for anything can't wipe his ass can't save his life yeah and he's because it's heavy it's up his nervous system yeah like he's his body is imbalanced it's like carrying a brick everywhere you go yeah a brick made out of fingernails yeah so I was obsessed with those things and then I uh so I think somewhere in like the early 90s or mid 90s I I was like uh I started writing all these jokes about breaking all these ridiculous world records and my Act was always very joke heavy you know a lot of onliners and it was always very uh you know always did a lot of crowd work uh and then I started making my own hats somewhere in the mid 90s and I first made one that said recordbreaker and then I thought it would be funny to make a hat that said world champion but not

17:28of what like who is this idiot wearing a hat that says world champion it doesn't even say what it is like like you this just just this bragging kind of guy right and that would also that and it was also good because then it would lure the audience in to ask me questions and I love doing crowd work so it kind of worked and it fed into these these like world record these ridiculous athletic achievement jokes that I was doing at the time and then at some point it sort of morphed and it became not a guy who was bragging it became like an actual real life superhero who really is this amazing athlete and sexual creature that is just better than everyone and he's actually just humbly stating how amazing he is you know he talk about Lewis Lane you know in in front of Superman without him knowing it leis Lane is yeah that was Lewis yeah it was Lewis Lane it was uh that's actually her

18:16real name she was she's transgender a lot of people don't know that the comics because of bigotry at the time never addressed it oh they crossed over it yeah they did yeah they sure did wow how rude of them yeah wrong yeah Lois is a weird name for a chick I don't know any loises she might be the only Lois ever yeah I don't know any loises I don't know any loises so then yeah so then the world champion con of became this and that's what this karate book is it's just the the real life greatest martial artist and athlete ever to walk the planet and who doesn't brag but is just you know so incredible and then the past few years it's morphed s more where the world champion is I mean he still has that you know that is still is the greatest athlete and stuff but it may not be talking about that but he's become a person who is a champion of the world and for the rights of the people

19:06of the world so so recently like the past I started doing shows in Europe about four years ago and uh it really kind of opened up my mind uh and my point of view because you know when you're in a bad relationship like you can't see it but all your friends can see it cuz you're like too close but then if you step out then you can like a couple years later you're like what the was I doing you know um so when I started performing shows like in England and other countries in Europe I initially thought oh I'm going to be learning a lot about these countries and I did that but what I really started learning about a lot was my own country CU you were able to see how other people live step away from the way you've been living and physically be farther away so I sort of sort of just started seeing some of the hypocrisies and the Ridiculousness of you know just culture

19:56and the laws that we have the with the government and so I started uh talking more about you know the past few years bigger issues whether it's you know classism racism you know different kinds of things so and I try to I still try to you know do it from the same ridiculous and absurd angles that my ACT has always kind of been um but now with uh you know dealing with like big issues like that cuz I've always liked doing like Dark Twisted crazy you know in in my material and finding laughs in Dark Places um and so now with like if I do if I'm doing bits about racism I love it because I love how uncomfortable the audience gets like if I'm doing bits about uh like I have one bit about terminology about black people should be called black should be called African-American you should see like usually the black people are they're a little uncomfortable at first but then

20:53they're fine the white people are almost always terrified to be even discussing this and that's where I like to I like to get comedy out of those situations you know I've never been the guy who likes to get it out of the easy spot I like going to where it's difficult uh so I've been doing more stuff like that and I also like doing it for everyone I don't Democrats Republicans cuz I don't find it interesting like if you're preaching in the choir I never find that interesting or challenging you know I like doing a bit about gun about guns and there's people on the right and the left and they're all laughing at the that's what I like doing and trying to do you know so so there's like a cons a conscious effort you have when you're crafting your jokes to sort of like uh or is it just like what you normally just sort of gravitate towards well these are things I normally gravitate

21:39towards but I I try to do it so that I I try to point out the absurdity in it and to sort of like get people to laugh at something and then they're realizing wow the fact that we're arguing over this is really absurd you know and and so so that they're going to laugh at it no matter what you know what they point of view is on an issue like like like say gun control you know gun control cuz most people cuz both sides they want the same thing you know they want peace you know they want safety whether you're for guns or against guns they both want that so they have something in common but they're so passionate about you know we want our guns uh we don't want the guns that they don't actually see that they actually have a more common ground than they think right I mean that's not what I preach in my ACT but you know I I take that you know that knowledge beforehand

22:28that these people actually agree more than they disagree you know it's how they go about solving the issue that they disagree well I think when we set up two opposing camps like the right and the left Democrats and Republicans you know you you almost always have these artificial barriers that are like set up in place for people reaching Common Ground like they're all they're already in place like you it's already black and white it's already good guys versus bad guys no matter side left has their ideas and you have to oppose them if you're on the right even Mak sense yeah what it's what I think's gotten and I think this has gotten worse and I think some of it is due like to the internet uh which we were talking about a little bit you know before the podcast started where it's like it's like Nuance is like gone it's like like even on the internet if on

23:15Twitter if you say one thing if you do one tweet and one person or one group gets offended you are demonized forever it's like you can't uh it's like you never be the same you know like they're done with you it's almost like you know like when a 5-year-old kid eats broccoli for the first time and he just goes Yu and then spits it out it's like that's the way adults are now on like every big issue right so you write a tweet about something that's who you are yeah that's you from now it's like there's there's no room for discussion it's like you're evil uh you have to go well it's also the just the taking someone and judging them based on a tweet is so precarious because you're dealing with 140 characters have a limit of 140 characters and you know a lot of times especially if it's a joke yeah you know like there's so so much more that you could say about that subject that would give

24:11like you would sort of fill it all in like oh here's judah's actual perspective on this but instead you know they take 70 characters that you thought would be kind of funny to put out go you piece of how dare you say that about blank you know and the fact that people come to a judgment about someone's entire being immediately and then don't even want to discuss things it's like it's like you can't progress if you can't discuss things well I think you're dealing with what you're calling progressives and people that call themselves Progressive many people on the left or we're using labels again for lack of a better term are more fascist than people on the right you know more regressive fascism can come from both sides you know and with freedom of speech uh people can and I'm I'm someone who's for human rights 100% and always standing up for the underdog there's

25:05actually a cartoon the term fascist I used to think this too but I think the term fascist actually deals with conservative issues I think I'm pretty sure like Jamie pull up the the definition of fascist yeah I'm forgetting because I've looked it up people use it I think people use it incorrectly because they just assume it's like but I have this one uh Cartoon here in the book and it's it's at a college campus and it says uh smoking awareness week and the right you have a good lung which is white and a bad lung which is black and underneath they say uh this poster is racist then she goes let's protest and it's like the bad lung which is black is not bad because of anything to do with like the color it's because a black lung is a polluted lung that is not healthy I understand this yeah yeah but I'm saying but so some people I'm saying some people their heart's in the right place right

25:59misguided yes so that's question why you know here we go fascist governmental system led by a dictator having racism I've seen more than one definition that's interesting I've seen a different definition look the Webster's definition what do they say organized Society government ruled by a dictator cism emphasizing aggression act but I've seen it I've seen it written full definition let's see a political philosophy centralized autocratic government headed by a dictator dictatorial that's a weird word dictatorial leaderships right but see some of it is social regimentation you know certain philosophy that that is forced upon people you know yeah yeah so that is fascist then yeah I just think there's so much with culture now there's such this there's a there's the not in the concept of discussing something and also when you talk to people who who disagree with you on something that's

27:00when you can really learn you know about their point of view and your point of view you know you both can learn I think also what we're dealing with is there's a lot of people now that were marginalized before and didn't have a Viewpoint maybe in high school and maybe even in college and now because of the internet they found like-minded people they ban together and they really become sort of thought bullies yeah yeah yeah that the people it's not about like you just said something wrong it's like you now have to be shamed for it exactly instead of like you know if someone says something you know that's even even if someone ever says anything to me about something it's like I want to discuss it and find out why they're feeling that way and then uh if I still think differently explain my my point of view to them so that they can see it but I don't know people just it's like they

27:48just want to fight they just want to shame and fight it's well they they want to attack because they're afraid of being attacked themselves they it's almost like they want to attack first it's a lot of what's going on that's part of what I teach in my book how to beat up anybody is self offense yeah do you do you teach that ask questions never yeah shame first no no no don't they shame you I don't do that shame them to death maybe no I don't do that I don't shame people not into that you should maybe that's what your new persona when you morph again oh that's be a shamer that's interesting you start shaming people for that's not even shameful yeah I like that so uh actually I did that recently a little bit in my ACT I did that a little bit yeah where I'm sort of making fun of like as soon as when people start clapping I'm like guys just stop that that's actually

28:31offensive to people without hands and then I'll say uh I said uh and I'd like to apologize for wearing a hat that's offensive to our friends in the Headless Community you know you know just making fun of the people who are like way too I had this woman Christina Summers on who's a feminist and uh she calls herself the factual feminist she kind of fights against a lot of ridiculous ideology that's going around the what the quote unquote feminist Community where they're spouting false statistics and fake fake studies or studies that are not real or very biased the feminist movement there there's many different factions yeah and uh I forgot what I was going sorry buddy that's okay um it'll come back to you what did you just say before that what were you just saying uh we're talking about there's many different factions of feminism no no was before that uh I was talking

29:20about the Headless Community not offending them oh clapping that's what it was Jesus Christ um she was saying that um a fight off cold I think brains on so hot today she it's going around with everybody it is everyone's got some kind of weird sort of cold she was saying that she does these shows and uh where they um where you know people give speeches and they don't want people clapping because they think clapping will trigger people that have been beaten before so like hearing this yeah will trigger the idea of you being so they all have they do jazz hands or they snap I read about the snapping thing just insane and you know the original I think when the beatnicks in the 60s in New York used to do the snapping that was because they were having illegal shows and if they all applauded that would the neighbor people who lived you know on the upstairs or

30:15next door would hear the applaud then they'd call the cops and shut them down really so they did the snapping because it was quieter than C than clapping and that way they can still show like that you know appreciation appreciation yeah so that was the initial thing why the beatnick did it is that real I I think so it's because they had illegal speak easys where where there were like after hour shows going on and my mom used to have this really cool lamp in her house that was made with like lead and stained glass and it was from an original Speak Easy from the prohibition oh wow cool I don't know what the she did with that thing it was so awesome that's awesome yeah that's cool I don't know if she sold it or got rid of it or what God damn it I wish I had that though cuz she had it restored and put together I mean it's like a a lamp from like 1921 or something like that

31:01where where is she where like uh my mom lives in Mexico now oh wow cool yeah my mom and my stepdad they live in Mexico they found like this strange community of expats in Mexico a lot of people moved to Mexico and they get I think Jesse Ventura's got like a place down there yeah he lives in Mexico it's he's a weird I want to get to know Mexico cuz I really don't know it that well at all Mexico is awesome I love Mexico I he Mexico City is just amazing it's very cool they have a lot of good filmmakers coming out of there now but the pollution is staggering really yeah I took photos of it and put it up on my Instagram and uh see if you can find one of those you can't even believe it it doesn't look real it looks like you're flying into a fire why have friends like from Beijing and China and like oh that's even worse it's just insane I think that's the worst in the world

31:48right China has some the wor but Mexico City was so bad I was getting headaches there and you smell it you smell it when you land you're like whoa like the and apparent cently they say the pollution is way better now than it was a decade ago which is very hard to believe wow traffic there is also insane nobody the the traffic lights are a joke it's a free-for-all right and trying to merge like look at that that's flying in that's Mexico City yeah like that cloud of that is uh that's when I was driving here I just read some I just heard it on the radio in Porter Ranch there's some kind of gas leak and yeah and they they just got this camera um the special camera that can like see gas and it's like the like the the government of the authorities said no it's not leaking and someone got this special camera that can like see gas and it's still going everywhere in Porter

32:40Ranch and 7 and 700 families have moved out and and they're like trying to like fight the government and sue the government or that plant or whatever that's doing it yeah oh God cuz I'm like that's not that far from here new infrared video shows possible gas cloud lingering above oh wa yeah and it's still like leaking like crazy and I'm like what the that's the gas yeah that's what the special camera that's going on now they had a big meeting last night and they said 700 families have moved out on their own like the government didn't tell them they're like they were like it we don't trust you guys we're moving in W good for them the government is the last you should ever listen to they're very close to hear that's only like five or six miles I'm like that gas can't be just going to Porter Ranch it's not like it knows it's probably going right to head yeah yeah this is this

33:30but that that the government is all about trying to minimalize the the impact on the C the E economy in these areas know so there's people are breathing they're not dropping dead on the spot capitalism wins yeah what is this lady doing with a mask on and sunglasses that is the one who least she let the gas out herself oh maybe she did it yeah that's what she's do she's like a she's like a bad guy that shows up at the scene of the crime look at her I don't know how this gas got out but we got to get out of here meanwhile she's got a monkey wrench in her back pocket she's unscrewing the gas gas leak controversy at Porter Ranch yeah yeah that's not good n you know what else um isn't good it was something I wanted to talk about today because it was so ridiculous I I tweeted it earlier today there's this um man who's a 52- year-old father who identifies as a 60 as a

34:24six-year-old girl uhuh and uh it's it's hilarious because I tweeted it and this his story about this uh he's Canadian and this guy who uh identifies as a six-year-old girl okay and like this is thing so he dresses up like a six-year-old and acts like a six-year-old yes that's what he identifies as he identifies as and this sort of you know people don't want to admit this but this sort of is what's going on with a lot of folks when it comes to this whole transgendered thing uh the idea that you identify with something thing like being normal and healthy and this is the extreme of thatan right now you cannot look at that and not think that guy is out of his mind but when I tweeted it then I I watched all the other people that are commenting on and online and there's people that are very supportive of the transgender community and very supportive of transgender rights and they they've hit

35:21this wall of ridiculousness like that what how do you respond to this now do you say okay that's enough well if that's enough is that enough well well what do we do about Bruce Jenner what what you know how do you what do you what do you say about this guy what do you say about that guy who wants to be a woman or this guy who thinks he's a fox or this guy who you know I'm a raccoon kin I mean people are out of their mind and that's something we're going to have to come to grips with in this this this thing we're doing trying to be Progressive and we're trying to be as as open-minded and accepting of diversity as possible you're going to deal with this I think this is awesome I think you should go back to kindergarten this guy see what happens that is kindergarten six is his first grade yeah seven yeah I went out with a girl once uhoh how old how old was girl how old were you you

36:11no she was like 25 26 that's a woman to have you know so I went out with her but I think she had we went on a short time we went out for like few weeks we dated but she had maybe more uh I think she had split personality disorder why is that cuz sometimes she was completely normal and then sometimes she it was like she had no vocabulary and would speak in broken English and like I would just be talking about something and be like yeah I saw this thing on CNN and then she'd go what's CNN I'm like well you have to know what CNN is you know you don't you're you grew up in New York City and you don't know what CNN is and then another Point like uh we're I was talking about the New York Jets game and she's like what are the Jets and I'm like how do you you you grew up here in New York how do you not know even if you don't watch football you know you're going to see an

37:05ad that's you know on a bus that's driving by or something did you have sex with this girl no I didn't I didn't good for you and and U so so at some and then at one point we're sitting in my car and she's talking normal like Queen's accent and then she starts talking all of a sudden like in like broken English like Hi how are you oh okay and I'm like what you know and then at for a second she goes come on get it together get get it together I'm like she said that to herself yeah yeah to herself you know you know she's like talking to herself oh well she's crazy yeah yeah and then and then she wanted to make a commitment like like like like let's get serious about what about dating like being a couple but she wanted but she had something but she said to me she has something really serious she needs to tell me but she can't say it until after I you know say to her that I want to be

37:49in a committed relationship with her just the two of us okay so I'm like no that's the kind of you put out before you know she's got so I so I noticed like when she would start changing her voice talking that broken English it was almost like her vocabulary got worse too so I I actually think she had split personality disorder where one was like she was like a little girl was she hot yeah she's very good- looking she hung out with her it who cares yeah but didn't but good girl yeah but interesting yeah yeah there's people whose brains don't work so good just like some people have club foot right some people have shitty brains right Club brain yeah for sure CLE pallet yeah up brain it's just you know defects dude I love your I just want to say I love the uh the American weol and London werewolf he got out there pretty dope huh yeah that was a great movie shout out to Pat McGee this

38:40guy named Pat McGee he does special effects for um films makeup stuff that's an incredible job he did yeah has a mold he makes them for anybody who wants one can get one really yeah he does uh a Yeti too he's a big giant Yeti oh and uh he does the alien from I'm going to look him up cuz that's that's really good good yeah he's really good and that was a great movie well he's one of those guys that believes in makeup special effects as opposed to CGI I did that I was into that when I was a little kid me too yeah really me too yeah yeah yeah I was into Rick Baker I wanted to do that for the movies like after I saw Star Wars like the Cantina the Cantina scene yeah yeah Cantina Cantina Cantina scene uh I remember saying thinking wow like that was all a bunch of masks but meanwhile if you watch that today it looks so stupid The Masks are so obviously masks they don't move they

39:27just rubber Frozen that scene like blew people away well the movie did yeah the special effects were that movie I think the spaceship stuff is still great in that movie oh it's terrible watch it again okay I don't know I I guess I can't see it cuz when I watch it I just love it well you know what I watched this morning I watched with my kid I watched um the Planet of the Apes from 2001 Mar Mark yeah I didn't like that one it was terrible yeah I didn't like that at all but I was walking watching the special effects I'm like wow just 14 years ago special effects look like yeah they look so fake but at the time we're like wao cool that's finally they got it he's in space for sure yeah you know that suspension of disbelief was uh yeah but now mean like you know Interstellar or something like that it's like wow they've got it I don't know sometimes when I see stuff now I still

40:18like the the superhero movies it'll be like okay here's Robert Downey Jr talking to Mark Ruffalo and then they put on their superhero costume and then it's like watching a cartoon know it's like I never feel like it's Robert Downey Jr in that suit when he's flying around and punching yeah that's why they have to do the Cutaway to his face with all the lights on it cuz he's got the mask on right so I still I just I kind of lose believability with that stuff I uh sat down with my kids the other day um and we watched King Kong the 1933 version of King Kong oh it's a great movie it was it's incredible to watch what difference movies are like what what difference it is between a 1933 movie and a 2015 movie yeah I even like the 1976 one with Jeff Bridges and uh Jessica Lang well we watched a 2005 version as well I went back to back from 33 to the 2005 I just

41:15showed them the King Kong scenes just so they could see the difference right right oh that's so cool you're educating them in special effects well yeah well we were watching this is what it was you know uh I have a TV in my car uhhuh excuse me and we were watching Monsters Inc and moners Inc there was a place they were going called Harry hous and Harry Housen is Ray Harry Housen who's a famous special effects guy it was like a shout out in the movie to Ray harryhausen because obviously Monsters Inc was a animated movie right and so uh I was explaining to them who Ray Harry Housen was and I said well I'm going to show you guys some old school animation so you get a chance to look at it so I played them King Kong and they were howling laughing they thought it was so stupid they were like oh my God like there it is but see you got to get a video of it pull see if you can pull a

42:03video of the first time King Kong harid was the king of stop motion animation yeah and uh yeah he did King Kong he did uh some of those Sinbad movies and uh it was so bad he actually did the I think one of the last ones or last one he did was Clash of the Titans in like 1981 look how stupid it looks got the strob and it's obvious that they're not in the same plane you know like him him and her they're not in the same place like and then they had the head there was the big head that wasn't the same thing it wasn't clamation animation it was like a big mechanized face where the mouth open and shut and then they went to this thing like look how fake it looks I don't know I I just sort of ignore it and I still get into it look at the lighting though look how good the lighting is man well for 1933 this was amazing like people couldn't believe it like see they would go to this this was

42:58the machine that the mouth would just open and close and then f r was screaming and yelling and even the style of acting they did was so different the way they talked then well what kind of a film are we going to make here you know it was like the opposite of a lot of acting you see in like American indie films now where almost like people have no energy and it's like they have no acting they're just everyone's just walking around with a blank face yeah you know here they they really overdid it they put a lot of energy into it well I think that was reminiscent or was a an after effect rather of doing things on stage with no fil with no microphones ah interesting cuz when sense when they used to have no microphones you used to have to project and so you would have to talk like that so the back of the room could hear you right and be more physical with your emotions and stuff

43:44that makes sense and so 1933 you got to think well they've only been doing movies for like a couple decades back then yeah especially movies where people got to talk not even not even really when was the first silent movie I think in the teens yeah silent I think in the teenss I think it was the 1800s really yeah I feel like 1800 was the first silent movie but talkis came in the 20s I think or the te something like that yeah so 1933 it was all really really new here we go 1891 wow until 1927 when the first talki was so that's incredible so you're talking about six years six six years of takis before King Kong came out yeah so they really didn't have it I mean that's like a 2011 movie I mean think about that yeah wouldn't that be cool I think it would be so cool to go back in time and to try to be like an actor in those times and like you know be in the silent movies and then and

44:36then get in talkies I mean it was just you would know so much you would go back in time they would think of you as just like this wise genius oh I didn't think of it that way I thought about actually just living back then like if you were born back then living back then I I wonder how much of a representation how much how accurate the representation of people were in those films as to like what they were really like like in real life oh yeah you know it's hard when you see people talking like that say mister who are you you know you don't get a sense of what they really were like yeah that's interesting I they might have been I I think they were pretty Savage yeah I don't know I don't know I think if you look at there's a bunch of stuff that happens in those movies that you don't see today like in movies or you definitely don't see on television shows

45:22first of all like domestic abuse oh yeah men just smack the out of women all the time in those movies even in like the original movie Foot Loose there are scenes where the main girl is getting the kicked out of her boyfriend boyfriend right and even today if that was happening it would they wouldn't actually show it you know what I mean uh maybe but it wouldn't be Foot Loose it wouldn't even be in the right it wouldn't even be in the in the story right right right yeah it's um it's interesting because I think when you look at something from like 1933 even though I don't think that's exactly how they behaved it gives you a window into the culture it gives you this bizarre view of people from a completely different era yeah I mean watch Gone With the Wind and you'll be like w this is like the most racist movie ever made racist like oh my God yeah there's a lot

46:10of those how is that how like how are people not talking about this well you know what else is racist as man Peter Pan yeah Peter Pan the original Peter Pan cartoon I was playing it for my kids and uh we were like wow like about Native Americans I've seen some of those cartoons oh my God it's it's angering and embarrassing you know it's like you're like wow yeah and that was the normal that everybody saw the old Popeyes are great too I've been watching the those great cartoons they are great especially the black and white ones those are like but they're so violent violent as hell and bl is always trying to rape olive oil yeah like yeah literally like Raper oh yeah like kidnapper rap yeah they don't show his hips thrusting but apparently everything else is in there like he's grabbing her and she's screaming he's pulling her away yeah yeah he doesn't even talk he

47:07just he just Grunts and yeah yeah it's but the violence is so prevalent like Jesus Christ cartoons were all about violence back then and they were great well the weird thing is you can still watch them but you could never make them like you could still watch War Brothers cartoons you could still watch Wy coyote and bug's bunny but you could never make a cartoon like that today and put it on teleion it would have to be a niche market I guess you know well it wouldn't be for children no no no not for kids but isn't that amazing that was what we grew up with yeah well look at how like some schools you know they you know they're not supposed to play dodgeball anymore it's like it's too dangerous you well we're becoming they're giving kids participation Trophies the is that there's a re you know it sucks to lose okay that's how you get better yeah you can't keep your kid from bad feelings

47:56lower income kids who grow up lower income they don't have that issue cuz they're like you know they're still Barefoot and it'll be a 5-year-old kid riding an adult 10 speed you know with no helmet on you know it's like that's like like when I lived way out in Queens you'd see that all the time you know like you know Latino Kid just you know literally like four years old and he's on a 10 speed no shoes just cruising down the Street where his parents yeah you don't see them anywhere just let that kid out the door fine yeah Jesus most of them come back alive yeah it's just about numbers yeah and he's he was good you know you that'd be like an adult riding like a 10-ft bicycle well New York is interesting in that way that you get to see so many different styles of parenting so many different styles of just living all jammed into one area stacked on top of each other different

48:44Burrows but all in the sort of same central location yeah it's not as diverse as it used to be it's really becoming a boring kind of city it's yeah and I what's well I deal that some of my here where it's like you go to like one block will literally have there's a CVS right next to a r Aid and then a block away there's a Walgreens and then there's like five banks like on that block and that's like that's all there is you know and it's like it's like it's turning that way like everywhere it's like it's become such a wealthy City uh it's it's just become become boring you know like even uh you know like some you know like when I look at La now and new New York LA to me seems in many ways more diverse than New York does really uh because you know I think an apartment in La is probably half you know 50% cheaper than what it is in New York if not more oh okay so it's just sort of

49:42priced everybody out yeah it's classism basically so it's like the only people I know doctors in New York City who live in Jersey because they can't afford to live in New York City wow you know so it's like it's cuz the finance people make more money than anybody right you is that funny all they doing is moving numbers around steal cuz I finally steal the numbers cuz I was always like what do these guys do and then I finally realiz that they make money like like like you do comedy and then people come to the show and you get paid like that's that's a service you provide but those Finance guys they make money that's all they do they they they they don't do anything they just find a way to make more money that's all they do well they don't even make it they just yeah they don't physically make it yeah they move it around they move it around but take some for themselves yeah giant chunks of

50:30it we made a big deal today we you know you moved ones and zeros for nonphysical place to another non-physical place it's crazy but they they make all the money and there a lot of them are barbarians I used to work out with a lot of these guys that um became stock market guys they became stock Brokers back in Boston and they were animals they were Savages and then I ran into one of them and he was wearing a suit and tie and he looked great and I was like what are you doing what the he go hey I'm Stock Broken now I'm a stock broker and he was just making all this money in the stock market and just doing coke and punching people and that's it's a crazy business I mean there's like no morals at all in that business and and a lot of the they do I think is illegal in other countries you know that's well it should be I mean look at what the the infamous market crash of 2008 Ian what was that

51:19all about prosecuted yeah yeah I mean it's kind of crazy if if you look at I mean how much of the same laws are still in place that allowed them to do that allowed them to set up the the whole subprime mortgage loan crisis thing it's like when when you look at what that actually was it was like a gigantic pump and dump scheme yeah but for the whole country yeah it's it's just crazy that no one went to jail no one you thing both we're both parties you know both parties are they're they're not that different you know they get marketed as they're so different but really not that different you know they they basically work for whoever has the most money I think socially they're different social that that's the only area they're different but but but financially they're most of them are just corrupt feeding the same feeding the same you know they don't work for people they

52:12work for Mega corporations that have billions and billions and billions well that's the only way you can get into the White House unless you're a Donald Trump guy yeah unless you have your own money where you can Finance your I don't think he has enough money to do it I don't I don't even think he does really yeah I don't think so yeah I think the money that the money that you're talking from these corporations is is much more than he can have as an individual you know and I think Mo I think the the biggest reason uh that he's been able to get his message out so much is how much Free Press he gets right you know good point it's like the news is always taken oh I don't know how does he keep getting how does he keep being ahead I'm like you're all he shows it's like he's getting hours of free advertisement every day I've never seen a political uh campaign where they

53:02actually go breaking news Trump's giving a speech in Iowa and then they just show the whole speech for an hour yeah well they're hoping he says something wacky about Muslims and that's never happened before where they actually just show an entire campaign speech you know and then like wow I wonder why the other Republicans don't have that much uh votes CU you don't you didn't even show 30 seconds of their campaign speech to me it seems like and I don't I try not to watch this stuff too much until it like gets down to the last couple months of the campaign but it feels like that what Donald Trump's doing is sprinting like there's a marathon going on and he just came out of the gate running as fast as he can and like he's winning like but you can't keep that up yeah you can't keep that up and and his the way he's talking it's almost like he's trolling like when he

53:48said he wants to ban Muslims coming into America like what what are you talking about man you can't what you're going to ban Muslims all of them yeah just you you can't have a religion because what wait what percentage of the people we talking about that are blowing things up and shooting people is it even one 100th of 1% probably not no it's not even probably not like but you're going to ban all the Muslims that are coming go what the yeah and then he's out of his mind and then he did a speech about it they asked him and he goes well what I'm talking about wouldn't even have to be for that long like what are you talking about like he goes just until we figure out what the hell is going on like he's just speaking in these sort of vague terms it's like I feel like he's trolling I don't feel like he's a real serious candidate yeah you almost hope it's like in six months

54:37he's going to not he's going to withdraw and just say the entire thing was like some kind of bizarre performance art thing you know just just making fun of our entire media and a big walking Phoenix sort of and political uh you know Arena you know it's just cuz yeah the news media is just just you know I mean I don't like them I think they're horrendous period you know well what they are is a business that's what I'm saying and that's people don't realize yeah they're an entertainment business and that's what's entertaining A guy like Donald Trump is entertaining right but they should be labeled they shouldn't be allowed to be called news you're right well I think that happened to FOX News in Canada really I think they were not allowed to be broadcast in Canada unless they were called labeled as entertainment and not news what really yeah I think so that's just cuz

55:26someone told me that recently the girls that they have on that show they're too distracting too hot too many but demons I think that should be the way with you know 90% of the news you know cuz it's just you know it's it's not about giving you real news it's about getting viewers yeah I mean there's a lot of really interesting things that are going on in the world they're not going to cover it because it's not going to it's not going to attach to your Reptilian Brain yeah it's not going to your your mind is not going things are slower you know if there's some missing uh 8-year-old white girl you know that'll be the that'll be the news story for two years you know yeah I mean how many brown kids get killed every day nothing one little cute white girl with pigtails gets scooped up in a van they're finally doing that a little bit less now but for you know

56:13decades that was the main news thrust it works yeah that's the thing I mean this Donald Trump thing it works you have that guy on TV you're going to get people to pay attention yeah it's sad it's sad but it's it is what it is but I think today it sort of open the door for all these alternative news sources yeah you have to if you want to get real news you really have to put effort in it's not going to just show up on your television well the internet is look for a fantastic resource now because you can get all sorts of unbiased perspectives and perspectives from all these different sides you can also get misinformation so you got to be careful but there's a lot of stuff you can get all over the world you know you can you can go online and watch news from other countries and see how they report one of the cool things about New York though as opposed to La

56:58is that New York is not a Showbiz based city correct yeah it's uh it's more diverse that way but I tell you more and more and more it just feels like a finance City I keep hearing that man you're not that told had Giuliani for eight years and then we had Bloomberg uh for 12 now legally you're only allowed to be a mayor for eight maximum and then Bloomberg was like well I want to change things and uh so they did a new vote and uh it was just amongst I think other politicians and he got voted to be allowed to go a third term that's hilarious yeah so why can't Obama do that yeah I don't know but yeah Bloomberg did it and Bloomberg was interesting because you know he he's a Republican and very conservative on some issues you know especially financially uh but then on some other issues um he wasn't uh so you know he he was he was good and bad and Giuliani did good and

57:55bad things too you know I mean for the Arts Giuliani was horrendous you know he oh he was closing down they found a loophole from the some law from the 1800s about how you you can't have dancing uh you have to have a dancing you have to have a cabaret license if anyone's going to dance at a bar so if a couple people just if you wanted to put on if there's a bar and they have an extra room and you want to put on a comedy show uh or something and someone's dancing in a or a sketch ComEd show and someone's dancing in a skit they can shut you down yeah so he started acting laws like that that he started he started actually enforcing them he start they started enforcing that yeah yeah wow what what was the purpose behind that like why did he why did he want to do that what was his motivation I don't know but you know he also closed a lot of the strip clubs uh

58:39he he enacted this I think it was the 640 law or the 4060 law and for a while there was a comedy club that was so basically if you had a strip club he changed the laws so that now only 40% of your place can be a strip club 60% has to be another business that was a lot of what yeah that was a lot of so so wait a minute yeah what does that mean like you could sell hats yeah yeah or you know you just you just have uh like I remember for a while when they closed some of the porno theaters in Time Square this is these are places that go back pre- internet you know where you actually go to a movie theater to watch a porno cuz that used to be the only place you can watch one and it's just you know bunch of depressed guys you know jerking off or waiting to jerk off you know and uh so so uh I went to one of those after they had closed the porn and they were it was a short period

59:30I think it was only like a few months or something and they were showing uh so they were just showing like old John Wayne movies and like what so and there were still just like 30 guys in there just you know most of these are guys on edge this is like 20 years ago guys on edge and like homeless guys just sitting there it was it was maybe the most depressing thing I had seen where I think guys were thinking they were still like I'm I was wondering like do they think they're still going to show the pornos cuz it says it's a John Wayne movie or or are they just like are they just holding on hopefully that like well maybe they'll sneak a porno in there or something but it was it was one of the most depressing things i' had seen uh but yeah so had the 60/40 law and I remember there was a comedy club for a while that was in one of them I I can't remember it was called string fellows or

60:15another one it was on around 21st Street and Broadway which is you know a business and residential area it's not like it's an area where there's just tons of porn so you have like you know expensive apartments and other business stuff and then oh here's a porno place and uh I mean a strip club you know and so basically um 60% of it became a comedy club and uh but they still had strippers working there and it was such a weird feeling but it was i' never felt more safe at a comedy club because they still had all the bouncers from the strip club there so it's all these guys in like tuxedos these huge dudes in tuxedos and the stage was like really high uh you know so that cuz it's designed to be looking up at strippers and people can't grab you yeah yeah so so and then downstairs were lockers where the strippers were like changing and so You' to be like seeing them

61:07down there and how bizarre yeah and then you just go through like a little swivel door and then you're in the the strip club but that didn't last too long but they had to do that for a while cuz they had to they they enacted these new laws and they had to do something that is so strange so this is this is a new law or was it old this was when juli I think the 6040 was a new law that he enacted but what that doesn't even make any sense but is it 60% in terms of Revenue or is in terms of physical space I think it was physical space here it is right here a legacy of the Giuliani area in New York the 6040 rule forces any adult business to devote more than 40% of its square footage to adult entertainment no more than 40% to adult entertainment meaning the strip clubs must fill the other 60% with non-adult business Endeavors yeah this is why the penthouse Executive Club has Robert

61:59Steakhouse and New York Dolls has a bikini bar front Lounge what an yeah what an basically most of them most of them just went out of business and they're gone you know they're they're just gone you know uh what a but I remember going to New York in like ' 81 and it was so cool you would see Cats you know the big Broadway show catch and then right next to it the and it it was just like I love I just love that that variety you know that dichotomy of seeing you know the grungiest next to the highest end you know and it was just it was exciting you know but now it's just it's just corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate ch ch chain chain yeah but almost it's almost like like Time Square is now all just chain places but now that's becoming you just see it spreading throughout the whole city really yeah like I I like I overhear college kids you know and they're they're excited

62:52they're like oh yeah my dorm's so great cuz there's a Panera Bread uh right next to it and uh and there's a quiz nose uh you know right nearby and I'm just like what the you know it's like it's it's hard to even get a good slice of pizza in New York anymore really because uh much harder two things happened um 6040 no not the 6 40% porn that' be cool your business has to be 40% por you to have 40% tits yeah so what happened with the pizza is well first of all Manhattan and half of Brooklyn hardly any of the people that live are actually from New York anymore so you don't even like you don't have so you have people moving from the suburbs so they don't really know good pizza so they're not really New Yorkers they're just kind of living there because they're making a lot of money now yeah so instead of like you know how La is very transient everyone like I was voted

63:42most beautiful in high school so I'm going to go to La and try to become an actor and actress you know well New York is now uh I got good grades in school and uh my dad works for this firm and that firm hired me in New York so that's why I'm in New York you know so it's uh it's changed a lot like almost every girl I've gone out with in the past 78 years is either Finance or a corporate lawyer or something like that and because that's that's who you meet you know it's like I don't meet anyone like here in LA everyone I meet is doing something in arts or entertainment or or trying to you know and in New York it's that happens maybe 5 10% of the time how bizarre so it's just a gigantic Financial City now l that's what Bloomberg wanted cuz that's his background and his goal was to make it the financial center of the world and I think he kind of did you know cuz when I

64:34first started doing comedy in New York in the late 80s and early 90s you know uh cuz I moved to New York in ' 87 there was always you know the Wall Street guys you know and but it was down in one area in Wall Street and now that that business is throughout the whole city you know wow so it's it's uh it's grown and uh got to be hard to reverse yeah I I don't like you can you can sort of gentrify an area but taking an area and makeing it like more local and independent and and getting like artists and stuff and good luck yeah cuz I think even I remember even years ago Comics you know you know and some people might say oh this is sex whatever but you know I think it's just guy locker room talk but have arguments who's got hotter chicks New York or La I remember definitely sexist and we don't allow that on this show yeah cuz you can't talk about feelings yeah so anyways so I

65:32so any you know Comics we used to you know you travel around you you always have to argument who's got the hotter chicks New York and la and some Canada's very very hot chick so so they um uh so like it used to be like it was always close you know and then some guys would always agree with LA some guys would say New York and now I think if you would have to place the vote I think La would win easily you know cuz uh New York you don't you don't see the variety of like you used to see women from you know all over the world so the the the you know everywhere on the planet you'd see women you know it's beautiful women from everywhere and it was just you know you don't see this variety anywhere but in New York you would see it now you don't see it that much and you know you don't even see a lot of interesting fashion walking around the streets of New York you used to always see that you know

66:20because if everyone's working in finance that's you know that's not the most fashionable group of people you knowed in that the worst when you in terms of like artistic people in terms of like creative people like if that's going to take over that's going to be the worst for that you mean for hotness you mean no I mean for for having diversity for having unique people for having artistic people like that like there's a lot of industries that could move in where things could be kind of cool like if the tech industry moved in like like San Francisco is a good example a lot of money in San Francisco and a lot of people are complaining but weird cool is there too still like a lot of freaky people it's interesting a lot of the people in Tech are unique and odd and Ecentric you're not getting that in finance you're not getting the creative types no no and you often when you meet

67:09them you know a lot of them are nice too you know that they usually kind of heckle themselves you know say they're boring they work at a boring job or whatever you know but you know but it's what are the clubs like now well the clubs are doing well because you have a you know the city since it's gotten safer uh the tourism is up you know and is it a lot safer oh much safer than it was 20 years ago much much safer yeah it's you know it's you know it's there's not much crime there uh there just isn't that's incredible yeah you know cuz I mean if every if one bedroom apartments are anywhere from $500,000 to $1.5 million yeah uh and that's a one-bedroom that's probably 70% smaller than a one-bedroom in La it's like like a you know a new a new one bedroom in the village in New York will be uh well over a million dollars yeah we we we talked about my wife and I thought about

68:04getting a place there at one point in time we're like maybe we should move to New York maybe it' be a good thing maybe we' try something different we're looking at apartments that were three bedroom for 5 million bucks like what the is that ins that's crazy bu you can buy two houses in the Hollywood Hills for that yeah it's it's a apartment so you don't even have a yard you don't even have a parking spot yeah and also those apartments unlike if you buy a house they have the building monthly maintenance fees oh yeah which can be easily you know 2 to three grand a month and that's just going out the window you know so it's like it's like owning and renting at the same time you're right yeah that's a good way to put it yeah it's like so like for years I've been thinking about buying a place and then I I'll look for a few months then I'll get frustrated I'll quit and

68:48then why do you want to stay there I don't know I think for well you know my my folks and my brother they're in Maryland and DC so I kind of want to be close to them um and I you know every time I come to La I always cuz I lived out here for a couple years in the early 2000s I I keep thinking oh maybe I should just move here you know so I just I don't know where to I'm at the point in my career like I don't know where I want to live you know you know I was funny even Anthony Bourdain who's like this long-term New Yorker and who's like you know kind of like when I think of New York I think of guys like him sure he was telling me that he had thought about it many times about living in La you know I'm like really it's like people recognizing that there's like a weird shift that's going on there yeah well people I remember you know 15 20 years ago the the big thing with there's

69:32always been this sort of you know love hate with LA and New York you know I always noticed like it seems like there's always La Comics seem to have a little bit of a fear towards New York Comics a little bit or a little bit sort of like respect to I've always know even with like club Owners it's like or even with actors you even notice oh New York actor mean that means they know stage and and and then even with with with with LA it's like oh those New York guys they're getting they're getting on six seven times a night they're just in New York cuz they just want comedy they don't they're not interested in other stuff and I'm like you guys are really exaggerating things a lot it's like first of all you you can't be doing six and seven shows a night every night it just you know once in a while you can do that but you're going to go crazy if if you do that and then

70:14just geographically getting to all those spots on time is not easy to do yeah unless you Bill Berta helicopter you around the city right so so and and most Comm just aren't doing that many you know New York City does have more comedy clubs than LA but um and the city's also geographically smaller so you can get to them but if you're doing let's say you do four shows in one night you're probably going to be spending uh to just to get to those you're going to need a cab so you're probably going to be spending you know 40 to 50 to $60 a night and you're probably making $7 you know what I mean so so it's like there there's not that much so you know now I I also think now compared to when I lived here in the early 2000s the the comedy scene in La has grown I think it's very healthy here and and I think it's much better the store is like rocking every night and they got and

71:12they got three rooms and they're all great rooms with each and each one has a different personality to it you know what's crazy this year is the first year the store has been profitable in like forever wow believe this last year here it's crazy I mean Adam's done you know an amazing job best he's the amazing fing job I love that guy it's so cool having a guy who's like the talent coordinator who's just a regular like he's my friend like i' hang out with that guy gu it's very rare that anything like that ever happen he's the best he's the best but you know I mean know the two cities in America you know La in New York has the most comics and and the best Comics you know you know where there's a really underrated scene where Denver I you know a lot of good Comics come out at Denver I believe that yeah Dan soder's from there and um can't think of who else right now Wendy Curtis one

72:02woman right right she's the best yeah she's an animal that chick she's owned that place forever she's been she she started working there as a waitress at The Comedy Works that's awesome and then she established when she started taking over she established like a whole system like an open mic system a system of taking people from uh open micers to making them MC's to making them middle act making them Headliners she's got like locally made headlines awesome like legit Comics that go on they go on the road and it's amazing well I think that that point you bring up is interesting cuz I think you know years ago you know there were there were like a few main cities if you wanted to be different or do something entertainment there's pretty much New York and la and now it's like there's or even if like let's say you know if if you know 40 years ago if you wanted to be gay you would move to

72:51one of the big cities you know but now it's like every city has their gay communities even like little town you know Buffalo has a big gay community don't you think that's the internet is a big part of that yeah I do I do and I think just uh but I think that the fact that other places have gotten better is also another reason New York has gotten more generic because if you're a freak if you're a weirdo an outsider people would be like move to New York move to the big city get away from the small town now you can find cool in your small town you know so you don't so it's not attracting that as much as it the interesting peoples it used to to for that reason which is great you know but then the finance thing and then the with everything being so expensive I actually think there's La has a lot of interesting people moving to it and living in La I think La has a lot of

73:38cool going on in entertainment and in art you know it's yeah I think so standup comedy I think it's the best place right now I think it's the best place as far as the amount of talent the amount of like really high level people there and the amount of like really good clubs I think it's the best it's hard yeah I couldn't say which city's better they're they're both excellent um New York still has more clubs and they're a different kind of club though they're smaller oh they're smaller stage it's much smaller much smaller um that smaller stage also lends itself to a different style of Comedy it does it does more personal more like where you from Sir like that kind of sh mhm yeah less less movement small stages La comics in general I mean these are Big generalizations but in general a little more physical MH um yeah so it's you know it's interesting I don't know but I think all

74:30three of the main clubs are are doing quite well in La you know yeah no they definitely aren the Laugh Factory is not doing that good oh it isn't yeah you can go to the Laugh Factory on many a night and it's half half when I lived here in the early 2000s that was like The Happening Club The Improv and the store were kind of struggling the store and the Improv are killing it right now the Improv has two clubs now I know I did their little room uh when I was here last month it was great yeah it's really cool how they've set that up that's a smart move the way they've done that that's how it used to be a long time ago that's actually where Ari shafir started off his powerful arir t-shirt I know I saw that AR shafir started off his uh this is not happening show oh I didn't know that he started off in the annex which is like this little side room right right and he

75:14nurtured it like this that show that he has on Comedy Central is a genuine hardwork success story because what Ari did is he had this concept and this concept was um this will be a good way to generate new material If instead of being under the pressure of like punch line punch line punch line doing in a standup sense let's do something where you just tell stories right like here's a crazy up story that happened to me and out of that story maybe there'll be some jokes maybe there'll be some something that I could mine out of that so he uh he did that and then eventually went to do it on the web did it on the web and then eventually comic Central picked it up and now it's on its third season right that's great it that's awesome it's amazing it's beautiful and it's it's just a matter of like growing you know putting it together nurturing it it grows nurturing it more it grows

76:02well that's the other thing just just being able to have space like la like New York there's no space here there's space you can you can grow exactly you know even if you look at podcasting mhm I mean I'm not an expert on this but it seems to me that it started basically in La it's it's an LA kind of movement the podcasting if you look at the big podcasts comedy yeah you know it's La I remember like when I would when I first started coming out here in like like probably like late 90s early 2000s it was weird it's like Comics would come the story like about new New York Comics they'd move out here and they'd basically just stop doing comedy because it was too hard to get on wer enough places to get on and then before I know it they're just going out every once in a while or every week you know getting drunk and doing karaoke that was like the thing yeah it seemed like there was

76:51a lot of comics were always going out doing karaoke like when I first moved here came out and the like were you hanging out with I don't know there's a lot of Comics that were doing that and I'm like I'm I'm like no I don't want to do karaoke I want to do comedy I'm not coming out here to do that you know but then at some point it's like and also there's more free time out here it's like New York you're constantly just I'm not talking as a a comic just as a person you're constantly rushed like what like what it's just a busy City it's so congested it's like it's hard to relax you know here you can relax you got space you can get privacy you can relax like when people York go on vacation they usually want to do something boring when people in La go on vacation they want to do something exciting ecotourism you know what I mean so paragliding yeah so there's more but you know I I I really

77:37like uh and the audiences are a little different between New York and here but uh New York really only has even though it has like probably 15 comedy clubs there's probably only about three that are like actually good I think it has a lot more than 15 I think New York has a shitload of comedy clubs yeah I don't know I think there's more than a hundred no no no not not full-time comedy clubs no way find out Jamie yeah maybe coms in New York I don't know it's a lot though head your bets what do you say what's the over under I'm going to go 19 I'm going 50 okay I went with 100 just to be cocky I'm going to say there's 50 but La has I mean if you look at La they probably have like eight now right well in the greater LA area there's quite a few like you know what's really good I just started doing the new haha Cafe in North Hollywood I did last night yeah dude I did it last Thursday night and

78:28now I'm doing it this Thursday night again it's incredible s down there it's perfectly set up low ceiling packed in great stage I used to do that years ago that place every time yeah every time I went there the stage was in a different spot like the guy was constantly redoing it well I check that out the old one is just down the street from the new one just down the street is it still there or no yeah it's still there so there's two of them yeah but one of them's haha one of them is something else now it's like a different I think he still owns it he leases it out to somebody but the new spot is a gem the new spot is one of the best clubs in the city awesome it's perfect I was like wow this this place is hopping that's cool yeah I did it last Thursday and I was like wow I'm sold man let's I will nurture this place keep this place going that's awesome when I

79:14prepared for my last Comedy Central special uh last August I was doing the haa all the time oh cool I was doing it like every Tuesday night for like a few months and you were doing like a long set right yeah yeah yeah cuz you can around there you can do long sets there then there's Flappers which I don't iank I've done it once and it's really good but uh you know you can do that the ice house which I'm doing tonight I have a 10:00 show there tonight that place is the everyone loves that I haven't been there yet oh you haven't been not yet no are you around tonight I don't think I can tonight what time is son a letting people down 10 o00 okay but tonight it's sold out it's uh Greg Fitz Simmons Tony h Cliff uh Bert ker cool and uh who the else oh Al magal too oh cool hell of a show God damn it yeah but the Ice House the oldest comedy club in the world the

80:07known world is it maybe the universe the whole universe the oldest comedy club in the univers yes it's the oldest place it was a legitimate ice house uh like where you would get ice back when people didn't have freezers yeah or you get a chunk of ice and you put it in the ice box and that's how you keep your food perishables yeah C and then in um the 1960s very early 60s it became a comedy club so it's been a legitimate comedy club for more than 50 years that's awesome yeah it's the best that's my favorite place in the planet next to the store yeah the store is different in a different place cuz it's like this crazy psycho Energy Gym where you know you're around you're working and and you'll bring up you know there's like a million great Comics you're bringing up Ian Edwards and this guy and that guy and it's like it's just just you look at the lineup and it's like 13 murderers in

81:00a row yeah yeah no it's great it's uh yeah I I I enjoy doing the the audiences are always it seems like there always like a I can't quite put into words what the differences are but there're always West Coast in general like a little bit different than east coast audiences but east coast seem to be more cynical yeah more cynical the little less squeamish like the darker a little bit more sometimes but but not always you know think the just the the cold and the you know being packed in and just everybody just jammed on top of each other like yeah there's more there's more like anger there well or they let it out more sometimes sometimes I think there's more anger in LA but it's more pent up there's something about New York though when I stay there whenever I'm staying there and I'm in a hotel and I look out the window and I just see this insane construction this thing that people have

81:52put together this modern beehive of cement and steel and glass like this is amazing especially at night like I I last time I was there I spent a good solid 2 hours just sitting at the desk in my hotel room looking out the window just looking just looking around where uh where where did you say I don't remember which one oh last time I was at the Trump Tower um but I've stayed I stayed a bunch of different that's Soho the Soho one okay bunch of different places but I forget which place I was at I was at one place once where I was in the middle of like all these buildings and it was it was like freaky like you look out the window you're looking at somebody else and they're looking out the window and there buildings stacked on top of building it's hard to get privacy Well there's almost I mean how many people watch people in New York it's got to be really common yeah

82:40there was a Radio Lab podcast about that it was really strange it was about this woman and she was telling the tale of how she watched this couple and she would watch this couple all the time and it made her kind of feel weird about her own relationship cuz this couple they were young and they would all the time and they would they didn't have the curtains drawn they would just and she would just watch these people and then the guy got sick and then like the family would be over and she was watching this guy like wither away and then he died and then They Carried him out of the building and as they she saw this yeah over the course of years years I would stopped watching a long time ago so she well she kind of it was her window like that was her view I it's like I look out my window and there's a tree that I like to look at yeah that couple so she ran downstairs

83:25as they were taking the body out and putting it in a hearse and she know she s like made eye contact with the girl who live with the guy and they taken the body out and she just felt like such a creep but she also felt like she knew them yeah she had it was like she had a relationship yeah with them they didn't with her but she did with them yeah like that's a uniquely New York thing to happen because anywhere else like you'd be a creep like you'd have to be some guy with well she's still a creep but but yes I see what you're saying is she I don't think she is I think she's just looking at her world look I don't think it's her responsibility to look away when some people are and they're 30 yard outside of her window and they're they're in a window themselves yeah yeah they're on display yeah what are we pretending well you're right windows are meant to be looked through ex looked out

84:12of and looked into yeah you're correct it works both ways I don't think she's a creep at all I think she's looking at her world but it was interesting how she had she she was really good at narrating this and explaining sounds great yeah I think it'd be a cool movie well I don't know about that I de press the out of here I think cuz in the end the dude dies yeah you know there's no heroes in that movie but she ran downstairs and like made eye contact with the PE and they were like who the are you and she's like oh God I realized like they don't know me but I know them and I'm a creep I got to get out of here and then she took her off but that's super common in New York where people like oh there's the guy there's the guy who practices the trumpet there there's the guy who uh jerks off you know yeah wish I had I don't have any neighbors like that but that sounds

84:57awesome do you look out your window yeah there's definitely a building there's like an expensive building right behind mine and you look at it you can just see everyone's stuff but I I hardly ever look out yeah but why wouldn't you you don't look out at those people they can they'll be able to see me so freak you out yeah then it's like just put your World Champion hat on yeah then especially if then then if I get recognize and then they'll be blogging about you TW that guy from that show yeah why are you looking at our apartment hey what show are you from again man what show is that yeah so you world champion guy I lost my thing an unplug yeah that thing we got to fix that Jamie that's happening way too often I got itam I got it it's all good look at you on the ball um yeah that's that's a weird way of living stacked on top of everybody yeah like everywhere

85:45else in the country pretty much other than you know Chicago and some other spots most people are sort of they have a house and a little bit of and then there's another house over there and a little bit of yard yeah you get some privacy it's weird how like they just decide one area is the area like everybody get here get here it's not like there's a river that you know has gold salmon ini that's initially that's what it was I mean if you look at almost all big cities they're usually on some body of water you know so but now it's that's not really why it is it's just yeah well there's other places that don't have a reason other than the fact that they're cool but people are flocking like Austin Texas right right the middle of Texas every time I go there I'm like Jesus Christ what did a thousand people a day move here for the last 15 years like what the is

86:31going on yeah it's but that is what's happening there like people are they keep hearing I'm up right now by saying Austin's awesome right it is an awesome City no they've been doing that for years where the people who are from there are like stop telling people about it exactly getting too crowded now you know and that's the thing that pulls people there is the University yeah like that's another thing that pulls people like like-minded people and intelligent people educated people and then they're also like it's out of all of the areas in Texas it's the most open-minded the most diverse right right yeah know that there's a l a lot of good food there too oh yeah Texas has great food period yeah I don't think I don't think you can get a bad meal in Texas you can definitely get a bad meal in Texas really I haven't had one you can do it I'll get you there okay I'll get you one

87:19do you work in Texas at all yeah what do you what clubs do you do uh Cap City Cap City I'll do the moon tower Festival haven't been there in a while but uh the club in Dallas or Addison Addison really good club yeah Houston used to be the yeah years ago but I don't really go there anymore I haven't been there in a while I've done colleges in around you know all over Texas but so you still do colleges that's like a big debate with Comics these days a lot of comedians don't want to do colleges anymore because it's just too difficult too much politically correct attitude I don't really have a problem with it I really haven't had a problem before I go on uh or you know sometimes before I agree to do it you know I ask them you know if there's any restrictions and sometimes there's no restrictions at all sometimes there are what are the restri restrictions that you well well usually

88:10they never give it to you they'll be like well we want HBO uh no that's a SNL's fine but not HBO I'm like what the does that mean who says that to you some sometimes people running shows or whatever they'll be like they'll be like uh you know rated R but not rated X I'm like what the does that mean you know I go I need specifics like I go can I say can I say can I say I remember I did a show this is like early on when I'm first starting it's probably like 91 or something like that I did a show I think Christmas zilly booked it who owns Gotham com Club in New York good dude yeah yeah so he he was booking a show that was way out in Brooklyn in an all Orthodox Jewish neighborhood and it was a show where the rabbi is it was in a Italian restaurant an Orthodox Jewish it was a kosher Italian like seafood restaurant I think seafood restaurant how is that even possible

89:01yeah so so everyone there is Orthodox Jewish or even they had a fair amount of hidic Jewish people there and the rabbis in the room and they had a sheet printed out of all the subjects and words you could and could not say it was like don't say schmeckle don't don't say sex don't mention sex you know all these things you know I'm early on so it's like I think it paid 25 bucks you know it's like an hour train ride out into Brooklyn I'm like it I'll do that so uh and it was you know was not a good show but I I just remember that thing and how like okay they spelled out every thing that you could that that you could not say so it was very clear so there's never a controversy so when I if I do a college I'm like what can I say you know what what what can I not say can I can I do any jokes about a because I've done Catholic colleges you know can I can I

89:51do a joke about abortion can I do a joke about gay marriage you know I have I have some bits about gay marriage and you know that's with the Catholic church that's a big thing so I'm I'm like I'm I'm like I need specifics on subject matter and words what is it and I get that and then everything's fine you know but you got to get that clear but is that fine with you right now like if they gave you a list right now and they said okay look some I pass on no some I pass on but what have you passed on I can't remember I think I think there was a Jewish gig I passed on cuz it was it was uh I think it was just um I can't remember what it was but it was it was for some it was a very specific group and it was just I knew there was like there were like so many things you couldn't you You' have to give like this you know they should have just had a kid play in the flute or something it's like

90:38don't even have a comedy show you know what I mean have have uh some 10-year-olds tap dance or something you know the kosher place I wish you took a photo of the rules I I think I have it somewhere I I've I I'm I'm a packrat so I'm hoping I have it somewhere I got to look through my notes please have it emailed to me and I put it up on Instagram but it was it was amazing that needs to be that needs to be displayed but I I understand that like even like when you do you know if you're going if you're doing like even with late night talk shows on television I will usually pass on doing standup on those and if I can I will do panel right because in a in standup they're going to they're going to be so many things in my standup back that where I have to cut something uh I'll have to not say a word or a certain subject matter matter and I'm like I don't want to cut that out of my

91:26standup I don't want to censor my standup act at all like I want to do zero censorship with it but if I'm doing panel and then want you to do some bits on the couch it's a little bit of a different Dynamic you know and it's like I'll I'll more likely do that I'd rather censor it there than do it in my standup act well it's also interactive exactly so it's a little bit different and you're a guest on their show and these are their rules so if I know that going in I'm fine but with those talk shows when they want you to like oh can you not say this word on that standup bid or not that subject I'm like like it I'm out I'm not doing it I'm not doing any censorship with my standup you know yeah that's why I was would say like doing these shows Coles which yeah I'm sorry go ahead go no that's right go ahead no they they pay a lot you know colleges pay well in general and I I

92:13weigh it and I'm like all right if this is going to be it this this is what it is you know like I I I did a show at Princeton a few years ago and this is a a different isue and it was I mean a lot of the crowd was like a shitty audience they were like you know not all of them but a fair amount were very very spoiled very entitled and drunk as and they're heckling and normally I would just destroy them but I'm like if I Heckle one of these kids and I rip them the shreds I'm in my head I'm thinking they're going to write a letter you know and then then you know nasty letter saying oh you did all these things and then they're going to tell all these other colleges and then I'll like stop working them so I handled the Heckler but not how I would normally heck how I normally handle it see that is why people don't want to work colleges get no I get it I get it 100% when people don't want to do

93:06that I I usually I usually find a way so and the LA and the ones I've done this past year I haven't had to censor anything that I do it they've all been really good so but that does Happ also dealing with a lot of people that don't have a lot of real life experience they're very young IDE a 50-year-old janitor will have a better sense of humor than a 19-year-old Harvard student you know because you know first of all comedy IQ comedy smarts doesn't necessarily have anything to do with book smarts and real life experience is huge you know I sometimes I find College audiences to be almost more narrow-minded than even someone in high school oh cuz someone in high school even though they're a couple years younger than someone in college they don't have that because usually when people get to College they they kind of think they know everything but in high school they don't think they know

93:59everything right but in college they do so it's like they can never be wrong well they're ready to establish themselves as independent adults right they're ready and they're ready to reinforce their ideas on you excuse me what you're saying is the patriarchy but I also I also make fun of that you know when I'll do colleges you know if that comes out I make fun of that you know so well that is important to make fun of that's a that's a goddamn cancer yeah yeah yeah well that's what that one cartoon in the book is you know I mean it really is it's like thought cancer it's like there's a disease there's disease of of fake progressiveness it's not it's really just calling people out on things and finding targets right well it's kind of like when a when a kid's young and he's first learning about you know curse words and dirty words he's just saying them constantly doesn't even know what

94:47it means so sometimes when when people are trying to like stand up for something uh and this is a new thing this activism is a new thing to them they don't really know they may not be that good at it yet or like their heart might be in the right place but they're being misguided and they're up you know yeah that's a good way of putting it you know so that I think and then sometimes and I this goes back to what we're talking about earlier where people never think they're wrong you know and it it's okay to be wrong you know like my opinions change on things over the years and I enjoy listening to people like I I did a show in Columbus Ohio at a comedy club there I forget I think it's a funny bone or something I did a show there it was the weekend that the Trayvon Martin case was going on with George Zimmerman and the uh it I it was a show black jokes no no but I have

95:39jokes about gun control you know and so and it was it would the verdict came down that night and the show's going on and then the next day and and I still did my bits about it and I'm talking to guys afterwards and there were a couple guys in the audience a black guy and a white guy who are all super pro gun and they both work for the biggest online gun seller in the country and it was just very cool you know talking with them afterwards and getting you know their insight as well as people who uh you know want want you know strict gun control so it's just uh it's interesting you know the usually things aren't you know they're a lot more nuanced than you think they are and there's a lot of issues I just did a gig in Buffalo and the waiter at the comedy club uh was like Hey I I won't see tomorrow on Saturday cuz hunting season starts tomorrow so me and my dad are driving

96:28out the woods and we're going to be hunting all day and then and then the uh the the Uber driver who took me back to the airport was also hunting and then he was telling me all the rules they have in hunting like you the bullets can only be a certain size and it can in your rifle you're only allowed to have three bullets in there you you're not allowed to have five bullets in there and it's got to be certain bullets that that that like shoot through clean so they don't if you hit the in the wrong place it's not going to up their whole leg you know all this kind of things that you don't even realize that are out there you know what kind of bullets are these what the are you talking about well I think it's kind of like with fishing like there's a lot of fishing laws where your your hook your hook is not allowed to have uh like those I forget what they're called it like the little

97:09daggers that go along the side cuz when you pull it out you the barbs you don't want to be the fish up no what that is is for Catch and Release places right right that's what I'm talking about but there's no catch and release with bullets no but there was something he was saying about but it was ail it was a similar Dynamic with with the Catch and Release stuff with the hooks you can have hollow point bullets if that's what they mean but those are mostly for pistols anyway um there's lead ammo versus copper ammo but really the the impact is environmental they're worried about birds eating the lead okay okay that's an issue right okay but what you're saying are things that most people don't even know exist you know which is part of the conversation in gun control right you know well that's that's you know I think the gun control conversation the conversation are very

97:54different because I think what people are really concerned about when it comes to gun control are quote unquote assault weapons you know they're worried about like what happened in San Bernardino somebody having large magazines semi-automatic weapons killing a bunch of people also in you know cities versus suburbs and rural places it's totally different like if in a if a rural area and people are like well everyone owns guns that's a hell of a lot different than if you're in a city and on one block you have 10,000 people living right if you have 10 ,000 guns you know within 30 yards that's a lot of guns you know that's a different Dynamic and you know so I don't I don't know all the answers I think one of the things you were talking about earlier about like these people that are activists that really have their heart in the right place they're just learning how to

98:39do it right I think that that you could say that overall about what's going on with the internet in general I think one of the big problems that people are having right now with um Progressive thinking and what people are calling regressive regressive left like people that are like very overly PC and trying to rein I think what we're trying to do is make the world a little bit better and a little bit safer and a little bit more open-minded but along the way there's going to be a lot of stumbling blocks and there's going to be a lot of poor representations of these ideas sure and you see it from the right too I mean with with Trump and some of the things he's saying it's like you know some of these things are he's so car cartoonish but but everyone but even like he's doing is similar what happens sometimes on the left where everyone is so confident about their idea and they

99:29think this is the only way and it's like it's usually a lot more complex than that you know yeah almost always almost always more complex than that there's a lot going on there's a lot going on with human interaction and I think ultimately like we should probably try to leave people alone as much as possible let people do their own thing as much as possible as long as what their own thing is isn't interfering with other people's thing I agree 100% so that way when someone something like radical ideology like Islam extreme you know Muslim terrorist type characters that are doing what they did in San berardino and these other places you got to go okay well now it's a problem because now you know someone has stepped in killed a bunch of people and they've done it with guns so we have these issues we have these issues of radical ideologies and we have these issues of guns and we also have

100:15mental health issues and that's a big one that one drives me crazy that every time someone is a mass shooter and kills a bunch of people the gun control issue comes up over and over again but what about the mental health issue because the mental health issue is as big an issue is anything else there's a lot of people in this world with guns there's more guns in this country than there are people but relatively speaking there's very few mass shootings when you consider the amount of human beings so what the is it that makes people pop yeah I don't know I mean I've the stuff I've read recently says that gun shootings in general now are lower than they were 10 or 20 years ago but mass shootings are up yeah you know um murder is down murder is the lowest murder rates I I tweeted this the other day lower than they have been in the last 50 years and maybe even ever interesting but mass

101:07shootings there's more of them yeah I don't know uh all this I I don't know all the reasons I don't think anybody knows they also get publicized now we in a like a very instantaneous way social media Twitter I mean I remember when the San ber thing was happening my I just started seeing tweets like that was the first thing yeah you you just immediately get oh my God something's happening in s what's going on # s berino we are it's trending right yeah trending trending is a weird word right yeah it's very weird you don't want to be trending n you don't want to be trending nah Judah Judah World Champion hash Judah World Champion if that was trending yeah that's not bad yeah well it's okay Judah World Champion rape case no that's not good that's not good not good uh but no that yeah all that I you know I don't know all the answers to that stuff noes that's the reality know I do

102:00know that it needs to be discussed and with an open mind and intelligently and people need to hear other people's ideas you know all sides you know it's so so you know what's fascinating when a mass shooting happens one of the big Winners is the gun B business the gun industry oh their sales go through the roof through the roof because everybody's scared that the government's going to take their guns yeah so everybody starts buying guns that's I talk with those those gun salesmen in uh in Ohio when I I did that kick they were said through the roof you know yeah it's also they they always like to point out that those things don't happen very often in places where you have open carry there places where anybody can have a gun you can take a gun anywhere you want it's very rare that you have these mass shootings right but I mean if there is a mass shooter if there's someone that's

102:47shooting people what do you want do you want everyone to be unarmed or do you want everyone to be armed just having crazy gunfights like what is the answer I don't know what the answer is yeah I mean do you really want to live in a society where everyone has to carry a gun I mean just walking into Walmart with a AR you want to have all like yeah at what age uh would you be required to have a gun you know is it like when you get your driver's test at 15 or 16 is that when you get your gun also or do you get your gun when you're six well that's another problem is how easy it is to get a gun as opposed to how easy it is to learn how to drive a car if you're driving a car you have to go through a lot of Hoops and you have to learn how as it should be you don't have to do that with a gun that's a problem it's a real problem you don't have to show competency you don't have

103:31to you know they don't have to test you on your Marksmanship any of that I think Cole bear did just did a thing the other night saying it's you have to show more ID to get psea fed than to uh get a gun or something well especially ammo there's more restrictions on psea fed than there are on ammo that's what it was that's what it was yeah yeah yeah that's what it was yeah I had to buy some recently and uh when I bought it they had to get had to get my ID and I was like what like you have to write down someone's ID when you buy Puda fed yeah and that never used to be that way in the ' 80s you just go buy Sudan oh yeah until fig we do back go back to the80s no internet everyone was stup the internet's the problem yeah the internet has recipes for how to make meth from cold syrup yeah remember when you started doing comedy did you ever think you were going to have to be doing

104:17tweets and like that we were talking about that before the show like we were both tweeting like yeah no I mean it's it's a prerequisite if you want to be a successful touring comedian you have to tweet you have to Facebook you have to I do three things Facebook tweet Instagram those are my three things okay I don't really do Facebook anymore I just couldn't I just kind of I do Instagram Twitter I just started doing Periscope a little bit but I gave up on Periscope usually I've done a few and each one was me on the road like in a city and I have no car so I'm just like walking a mile to like the closest like CVS or gas station super Market to buy some groceries so like so on the 20-minute walk I'll be like all right I'll just Periscope this why don't you just rent a car it's a good point but then I'm I'm not really going anywhere you know go places not really CU I usually on the road it's

105:05like I have to get up early to do morning radio I got shows late at night and I'm just I'm usually too tired to do anything during the day why don't you take some vitamins eat some healthy food I do eat healthy food no I eat healthy food I don't do vitamins but I do healthy food when you're on the road you bring your own openers not usually I'm not at that point in my career where I can really I'm not making enough money where I can do that you know uh I need to get up like another rung on the ladder and then I can be doing that I think I'm like just you r a successful television show though right I know but I I never translated anything into successful business just yeah just didn't do it I don't know I'm just not a good business person you know it's like I remember like I remember you know just doing this one show like it was a road show and a bunch of comics were on it and like

105:54there's two Comics who are like they didn't even have the better of the sets and they're selling T-shirts they got their CDs they're selling left and right and the mean they coming like I don't know you know no one's even talking to us you know and we had great sets but yeah that's not I don't know I've never been good at selling stuff or organization or anything like that yeah would you see you just going on the road doing your thing getting the out of there yeah yeah I try I'm trying to like get to see the cities more and learn about them more instead of just just going in and out you know are you looking to do more TV or you just looking to do more standup now like what are you trying to do yeah well that's uh I think I'm going to standup has always been my main thing and still is uh I spent most of the last year uh when 30 Rock ended actually I I

106:40stopped uh I didn't even have an acting agent I uh I and I wasn't looking for one and I haven't had an acting agent in about two years uh when 30 Rock ended I just wanted to hit the road and tore cuz I was still doing tons of stand up while doing dir Rock but I wasn't allowed to do go on the road much cuz we were filming in the city so you know like eight or nine months out of the year so I just went on the road and that's all I wanted to do and then with the sort of constant sleep deprivation of traveling and you know morning radio and morning TV shows I started actually drawing again and that's when I started and then the book sort of like came out of that you know after several months I realized I had like 50 cartoons and I was like wow I think I'm working on a new book here and so I wasn't planning on that that's just kind of organically came to

107:24me so I spent the past most of the past year year and a half working on that and then doing standup I turned down a fair amount of acting stuff that came my way um and now the next big project I need to do is a standup project uh whether it'll be a special or a 90minut feature length standup concert film uh and then I'll do an album with it because I still have never put one out you know really never nothing I should have had probably five out by now years ago I turned him down from Comedy Central cuz I always well well this was this is probably like 10 15 years ago I turned them down because of their censorship stuff I didn't now they're much looser with it obviously way looser but then it was like there were subjects you couldn't talk about a lot of words you couldn't say and I'm like it I'm not doing it and I also never liked their ownership Clauses where they owned they

108:10didn't just own that filmed footage of you they owned all the writing in it also you know so if I wanted to if I wanted to do let's say I had one joke from there and then I wanted to do that on my own album uh but I've like one line but I've added three new lines to it you know they either wouldn't allow you or you'd have to get lawyers and get permission so I was like it so and then I've been trying to make my own for the past couple years and then this book project sort of presented itself and then uh the so at this point the only thing stopping me is me so I think you must have so much material though I know I can put out I think what I'm going to do is just put out my recent most recent hour but yeah I can I can put out I can go back to material I don't even do anymore and put out probably two or three others you know yeah you should do that you should

109:00just bang out like three specials in a year I might do that yeah or maybe one or one special and then two other albums or something cuz it's so important if people want to go see you that they can see something online they can find something that they Netflix or something along those lines I have some clips online that's it but I don't have like any of the half hour hour stuff cuz I always turn that down that's crazy I think a lot of it was fear Bas too cuz I also have a lot of trust issues with people like uh you trust me I do I do trust you I'm trusting you today okay cool no but no I respect you and trust you um but it's like I um you know so I have a lot of trust issues period you know and then and some of it's because I've been over a lot but that's okay but then there's also the my own perfectionism it's like it's like it's like oh as soon as you tape it then I'm

109:49going to think oh I have this one other joke that I want it in there I want I want it perfect and you got you can't aim for perfect you got to just go with what you got at that time and that's what that show represents yeah it's got to be a representation of what you're doing right now in this one time where this is filmed in you know December of 2015 bam this is Judah Freelander bam this is it exactly but it's it's hard to do that it's hard it's hard to nail it like that and lock it in and and then not say oh but I could have done this maybe I should have edited that out and that part was flat right take chances right and then the other like blockage on my own area mental blockage was uh and I'm much better with that now but for a few years ago I used to never have it then a few years ago it kicked in was like that fear of like you know basically like not

110:42just Trolls but like you know bloggers saying oh this s like they're going to on it and then cuz you know so many people like like if one blog says you stink then all the other ones are just going to basically rewrite that one and then write the same article and then before you know you have all the internet saying you stink or like the whole hipster half of the internet saying you suck so I never used to give a what people think but at some point that can be paraly several years ago that kind of happened to me so I was like it did happen to you yeah it did where I was just constantly like I got a lot of anxiety like thinking if I put something out they're going to on and everyone thinks I'm going to suck and then I'm not going to have a career you know did this happen because someone on on you or you were worried about someone on you I was worried about it yeah I was worried never

111:26happened no well no i' I've had I've had reviews where people like like just completely on me and and it's all none of it's factual you know what I mean it's basically like a professional troll you know uh but you're always going to have that though man yeah I know yeah yeah I've gotten much better with like not worrying about that but for you know 3 4 years 3 four years ago I was I was having that really bad you know and I don't know what it was I I I think it was all kinds of trust trust issues I was having personally and stuff cuz I remember like when 30 Rock was going on I'd go out on a date with the girl and then like 30 minutes into the date um she starts talking about her boyfriend and I'm like what I'm like what are you talking about and and she's like oh I thought we were just you know going out for dinner on like friends and I'm like I'm like I asked you out it's

112:17Saturday night and I'm like so I so I go to like are you like are you are are you cheating on your boyfriend are you not in him anymore like is he out of town or you guys have an open relationship she's like no he's here I'm like well where is he um she's like there's apart over there at the apartment I'm like well go to him what the you doing here with me you know how many times did this happen that happened a few times we like where girls would like want to like go out with me just to take pictures so they can like tell their Facebook friends and oh so they became friends with you because you were on television ex weren romantically when that stuff was happening that's also I'm just guessing here I don't have the exact answers I'm just thinking out loud but I think that's maybe sort of around the same time when I started worrying about like bloggers and like on you

113:05you know my friend uh Eddie has this theory about Bill Cosby and about uh Bill Cosby when he started doing that to women and he thinks that that might have been the similar type of situation where these women wanted to be around him but they were turning him down oh gotcha he started drugging them then he started raping him yeah yeah yeah I never did that I just left yeah yeah you're a much better man than him but you know what I mean like that can happen where someone's attracted to you simply because you're a famous person you think well hey this is a girl that I'm romantically interested in I'd like to go on a DAT get you ask them out and they say yeah and then you're at dinner so so what the man so you're you're talking to this girl you go hey do you want to go out to dinner and she's like yeah that sounds good yeah yeah yeah and then all a sudden you're on a date and

113:53she's telling you about her boyfriend Saturday it's 10:00 yeah and you're thinking yeah look at you I bet you look good naked oh yeah dude is going to get some all right and she's like yeah my boyfriend's waiting for me yeah no she just casually mentioned him about something oh yeah my boyfriend and this something I'm like huh what what yeah and this happened more than once yeah I remember one girl I remember one girl what did she I'm trying to remember what she wanted to do yeah no no she wanted to it was something like by jewelry no I can't remember I think I was it was timeout New York Magazine they put me on the front cover of their like dating issue and they like a whole is about dating and they had a thing and said like date this guy and I'm like I'm like on the cover like oh I'm in yeah so and I remember one girl I think saw that and then she she like Facebooked me

114:45or something like that and was saying oh she wants to meet me and something so she wanted to go she wanted to go she wanted to write articles she wanted to have follow me on a date and then write an article about it that's that's what she wanted to do and I'm like why the would anyone want to do that and why would I want to do that it's like why do I want to go dat she wants you to meet a random girl go on a date with her and she's going to hang out with you guys yeah cuz she wants to get uh cuz she's like an aspiring writer so she wants to try to get you know articles written online so her way to do is to latch on to a famous person right so there's always you know that that kind of you know so I uh and I you know and before any of that I always said trust issues with people so then that would make it even more where do your trust issues come from feel like

115:29I'm be doctor yeah I don't know I don't know where psychologist this always your whole life you've had this yeah I don't know always with authority figures I've never gotten along pretty much you know and you consider women authority figures no no that's just you know it's just a relationship you know right so how many different girls did that to you when you went on dates with them and they said they had boyfriends well there's that one I can think of uh I it probably happened like two or three three times that's really weird yeah yeah yeah that's super unusual yeah but also but it'll happen after shows all the time where a girl will be really flirty with you another comes to be like dude you should jump on that I'm like her boyfriend's right there you know it's like you know she'll be flirty with me and I remember one time one girl was like taking her shirt off showing her

116:10boobs me and Godfrey are there this outside the cellar and uh her boyfriend's right there he's taking photos of us doing it and stuff and other freaks yeah yeah you know some people are just that way you know and other people are going dude you guys the girl like her boyfriend's taking the photos no I'm not going to do there's always going to be people like that people that there's I have a friend of mine that went with this girl and the girl told him that she had a husband and the husband watched and coached her while she was blowing my friend that's that's really weird that's deep that's a I don't want to get involved with that's deep in the weird pool yeah I don't do that yeah I was saying to him I was said did that feel gay like she's like he's Direct dirting your pleasure this the whole thing is just that's just bizarre that whole thing some people are into bizarre

116:57not like that man not me no no some people learn a weird though yeah you know but I don't know I think you know so much of culture is so uh like like even if if you look at social media Instagram Facebook Twitter if I wasn't trying to promote my shows I wouldn't be on any of that right yet everyone's on that that's a good point you know like why are they on it like if you're on it and you just want follow different people to sort of get you know get some like you know you know ongoing kind of entertainment you know but it's like why like when people just take photos of themelves at the beach or their food and they post it I'm like I why the are you doing though what's what's the point that's a really good point I've you know I don't think I've really thought about that like I get why we're on it I don't get why anyone else is on it because I've been in

117:47entertainment for so long and social media is just something that sort of came along the way what would I be doing would I be even using if it if I I don't think I would no I got on to Myspace to promote gigs I got on to Facebook for the same and Twitter for the same that's really interesting and Instagram same thing like I know some people and they just follow they'll follow like their favorite like musicians and their favorite comics and they're you know so they're on their scroll they're getting you know some you know info and entertainment like throughout the day I I understand that but but if you're actively posting I don't I don't I don't know it's almost like everyone has their own show basically that's what the world's become everyone has their own show their own reality show yeah yeah that is what it's like so yeah I'm sorry go ahead go ahead no

118:32please no no no it's you're the show no no no I've cut you off too many times it's no it's all right man just talking bad now what were you saying don't feel bad what were you saying all right if a girl no that like some of those girls like from a few years ago it was like it was almost like you know the date was me guest starring on their show yes exactly you know and I can maybe get them ratings you know yes get them a bunch of likes in their photos right that's what it was like you know I went with a guy from the 30 Rock look it's me thought he was going to get laid haha LOL I don't sometimes I don't even think they're thinking that like I I don't even think that occurs to them sometimes what yeah oh they're dumb well I don't know I think they're just so into like oh this will give me people are going to like this photo you know they're not thinking I don't know that they all actually

119:20think it affects you as a person like trolls don't think it affects you as a person often you know they're just like you know they're just talking they're just not thinking about it yeah yeah yeah they're just using you as a target for their angst right right they don't view you as a human I and for the girl she's using you as a Target you're a celebrity you're on a television show that she enjoys look I'm here with him the guy from the thing I'm amazing I'm amazing I made magic happen the guy from the box is standing and he paid for my food it's a perfect impression is that what she sounded like perfect and then my boyfriend says and then my boyfriend says and he doesn't like you I don't know why whatever no you'll be like oh yeah he likes you too yeah but when you did you asked him did your boyfriend know that we're going to dinner together yeah I on that one time I did and what'

120:04she say she just she had nothing to say yeah oh God so did you just end the date right there and get out of there no I I finished my food you know I I think it lasted a little bit longer it was just kind of like awkward and yeah yeah it was pretty lame yeah how'd you guys end the night did you hug her I don't remember I don't remember how could you not remember what's that how could you not remember that I don't remember you know I don't I don't remember how it happened I just don't know you know the the idea that everyone has their own show is exactly what's going on and that's also when you see these like really self-righteous tweets that people put out like what are they really doing they're doing exactly the same thing that you see people doing on reality shows where they're they're acting you know you know when you watch a reality show and you watch

120:50someone they're they're doing something or saying something very specifically to get a reaction whether it's okay I don't watch them but yeah I I get what you're saying yeah yeah like they know the cameras on them yeah yeah and that's why they're acting in sort of an unnatural way or in a manipulative way right right and that manipulation applies to social media as well it's just a it's a less pervasive method of doing it instead of broadcasting to a million plus people on a reality show you're broadcasting to 10,000 people who follow you on Twitter yeah yeah that's a big part of what people are doing yeah yeah like what is what's real yeah it's also what hasht activism is what is hasht activism well I think a lot of what it is yeah no I think it can be I think it can be both I mean I I I agree with you and I disagree because I think and I think sometimes

121:36people are genuine but then sometimes people are just you know to yeah I mean there's no black or white in this yeah or I should say should I say gray is that okay I remember doing a standup set on a show years ago and called late Friday and I got I remember doing my first joke it's a setup and a punch line and I say the setup part and you know I have a slight pause everyone starts laughing and I was like what the going on that's you're not they've never laughed there ever I've been doing this joke for two years they've never laughed at that point and then I get to the punchline and they're still laughing at the setup they don't really laugh at the punch line that much and then after about like three and the first so the first few minutes were all just weird like that and then after about 3 4 minutes it kind of became like a normal set then afterwards I found out that the entire

122:29audience was uh paid background extra actors oh so and they didn't tell me that before going on so that's kind of like you know reminds me what you were saying about you know everyone had on their own show you know yeah so they were trying to be they were acting and trying to act like an audience member instead of just sitting there and just let it happen you don't have to do anything God paid background and everybody when Judah comes out he's going to say jokes and I want you to laugh it up I want to hear your best laugh right now come on folks you can do better you can do is that all you got come on and that's the way some a lot of times comedy on TV is where it's just it's so fake you know it's just and that's a more extreme example but it's like it's just uh I don't know but it's not easy to capture you know even when you see specials it's not easy to

123:15capture a real standup night cuz you know when you put those cameras in there and people know what's going on it always adds a little bit of a different Dynamic you know yeah yeah yeah you know Hunter Thompson was talking about that a long time ago documentary about yeah uh he started filming things and started carrying things like carrying cameras around and filming things and he was talking about um they were interviewing him for this uh BBC documentary that they were doing I think it was BBC and he was saying that having a camera changes everything because you're not capturing reality because having the camera and knowing that it's being filmed changes exactly what it is it becomes something different now because everyone's aware of the camera and this is a documentary he made that he was talk it was about him I got see that yeah it's sounds great there's a few

123:59he's got a couple of them I'm a big fan of Hunter Thompson yeah but uh uh the one was Gonzo the Life and Times of Hunter S Thompson I think that was what it was called the documentary yeah that was one and then there was another one uh fear fear and loathing in Hollywood I think I forget which one them was but there's a there's a few of them you can find them online I'll check those out that sounds really cool they were at his place in Woody Creek Colorado with cameras and filming them and he's like well this isn't reality because you got a camera soon as you use that camera he was a incredibly perceptive uh person man that's pretty cool when he came to himself interesting yeah it's all sorts of blind spots people have their own life yeah that's I mean I think that's uh that's probably pretty common you know F it's uh way more common than not yeah and I think it's I think it's good

124:47to admit that you know I think that's one problem is where like a lot of people don't admit that it's like it's okay to have flaws you know and we all have flaws if you don't if you don't have flaws you're not human and that's the other thing about social media that's weird it often shows people are showing themselves without the flaws so it's it's like you said it's like everything's kind of fake on a certain level and they also find a flaw that you have and just attack yeah yeah it's a Target what did you say about black people Judah yeah so I didn't black lung a lung it's a dark it's it's cigarettes yeah yeah that's the kind of thing that that was the kind of thing I used to worry about like you oh you do one thing and they're going to get you I had a couple drawings in here where it's paralysis by way I draw it and the way I word it I'm like am I going to get

125:38on for this and I was like a couple of them yeah but it's cool yeah listen I got to get out of here but let's uh let's highlight the book got two of them here how to beat up anybody this one for a few years yeah that one you can get on Amazon for $5 and shipping is399 the new one if rain 39 cents you can get your yeah I think you know cuz you can get used copies I think new it's like 14 bucks but if you want a used copy I think it's like 35 C are and shipping is $3.99 and if R goes back to me not being a good salesman I tell people to buy the shitty you're an artist but yeah if the rain drops United this has been my big pass in the past uh if you like B clean or maybe even some of the old Gary Larsson stuff I think I think you'll you'll dig this book beautiful and then your Twitter is Judo World Champ Judo yeah J D ah World Champ uh tour dates Judah freer.com thank you brother

126:30appreciate it man always good seeing you please this is great to see you anytime man let's do it again I I always I don't see you much cuz I live in New York and it's always cool when I see you always cool to see you too brother all right Judah Freelander ladies and gentlemen we'll see you soon bye-bye big kiss MW MW oh that was great