Aubrey Marcus (Part 2)

00:00Goes to show you, I'm going to find that. We're back up. Sorry, Ustream. I'm going to tweet everybody. We're back up. Yeah, so the way that the shamans continued explaining, fifth dimension is the dream state. You access that sleeping, and you also access that on a general level in psychedelic experiences. Sixth dimension is the realm, is the spirit realm, And the kind of the master of that realm is the earth mother is nature itself. So the snakes that came, the eels that came. That's the fifth dimension? That's the sixth. Sixth. That's the sixth. And we're like. What are we in? We're in the third and fourth. You know, time operates. Third and fourth. Yeah. Third is the fifth. Just time. Linear time. And the fifth is? The dream state. The dream state. Dream state. The collective unconsciousness of all humankind is the fifth.

00:51And that's why when you dream, you can access things outside of yourself. think of things that you wouldn't have thought of because if somebody else had ever thought of it you can access that in the fifth dimension the dream state outside of time so then the sixth is that's the spirit realm that's where if you're going to communicate with any of these totem animals or guides and they actually say when you smoke DMT you get kind of dropped directly right in the sixth dimension and there's beings in there that you see and it's a very common report from people smoking DMT that you see beings And it's because you get rocket shipped directly into the sixth dimension where you're going to encounter these different beings that exist in that dimension. But the overlord of that kind of dimension is Mother Earth.

01:36So a lot of the things you see are kind of animalistic based, especially for the people in the jungle. Maybe there's different paradigms of that. But then the seventh dimension beyond that is the realm of energy, energetic vibration and large entities. And that's where they say the ships came from for me. was the seventh dimension. And the purpose of the ships was to prepare me for travel to the eighth dimension, which is the realm of pure potentiality, they call it, where you can really affect change on all the dimensions before, including the third and the fourth, affect change in the physical body, basically access, see things in your life, have a completely different perspective outside of time. And that's the eighth dimension, kind of the final dimension that you can arrive. So, you know, they explained this all after I went through and then said,

02:25okay, this is where you were here. This is where you're here. And, you know, based on my experience, it might all sound crazy, but it's a paradigm that seems to work for me because I lived it and I was there and I did it. And I saw, you know, I've seen the physical benefits of what happened when I got to the eighth dimension. It wasn't like I just got there and no good stuff happened. I mean, my business, the decisions I made, I've been huge, you know, things are going really well. My health is great. My buddy's good, but who knows? It wasn't very scientific. I'm not going to put that one up in the win column. I'm not convinced that what we experience in a hallucination in that form isn't absolutely real, but it's just we can't put it in a box. You can't weigh it. You can't hit it with a hammer and make a noise. But the idea that it's just your imagination, people like poo-poo that.

03:25Like, it's just your imagination. What is your imagination, man? Your imagination is a crazy fucking thing. All these neurons and cells are firing. and somehow or another through these ideas manifest themselves or they can manifest themselves as solid objects. Like the person who figured out the wheel or the guy who makes a fucking computer. These are all real things that have somehow or another emerged into this dimension from this ethereal dimension of thoughts and ideas and done it through a human being. And we look at it as like no big deal. Like, oh, he thought of it and then he made it. It's just his imagination. Oh, you were in the eighth dimension? Sure you were. That's just your imagination. What the fuck is your imagination? We are very light with our appreciation of that and very relaxed with our awe as far as what the dimension of the imagination brings us.

04:26I mean, that's a crazy fucking thing. The idea that the world of thoughts and ideas is actually some sort of an intangible experience that's like right there, and from that you can pull things out and create them and put them, and then you stack them up on top of each other. And then they're physical. They become a different thing. But it's from the imagination. Everything is from the imagination. So the idea you're saying, anybody that would critique it, oh, you saw jaguars? Sure you did. Oh, you saw snakes? That's just your imagination. I don't know what that exactly means.

05:02You know, when you see something, even if it's a hallucination and it's changing your fucking life because it's whatever it's teaching you or whatever it's showing you or whatever leverage that it uses to pry your ego's grasp free of your life for whatever amount of time that allows you to sort of reset your RPMs and fucking start anew with fresh purpose. That's real. Yeah. That's fucking real. That UFO you saw was real. It was real. You know what I'm saying? I mean, what the fuck is the imagination? Does someone have to pour alloy into a mold and carve those things on it for it to be real? Do you have to be able to walk up and hit it and make a clang for it to be real? No. It's just how it interacts with you. Electricity, any kind of invention was made from your imagination. Sure. So it's like, who cares?

05:58If they teach you how to make the next fucking computer, then don't say who cares. It's just your imagination. Because that shit might teach you something. Just like these tools from the Egyptian times. They were, you know, making tools out of their imagination. Yeah, and if you believe in things, if you believe in things, they have incredible power over you. Yeah. Both good and bad, you know. And who's to say that's not real? You know, there's like the idea of the placebo effect. Like I give you a sugar pill and all of a sudden you feel better because you thought I gave you medicine. Well, still you feel better. You know, people have actually been cured of ailments because of the placebo effect. So what the fuck is happening there? Well, people have this misconception that it works only one way that, you know, that the body can affect the mind, but the mind can't affect the body.

06:49Oh, no, you can't go backwards on that road. But it's bullshit. I mean, your mind can make changes in your body. How do you think these people are able to do things like slow their heart rate or walk on coals and not get burned? I mean, they're able to focus some kind of intent. I thought that walking on coals was just a trick. Maybe it is. I don't know. I think it's a trick. I've never walked on coals. But whatever. You just got to keep moving. Well, they can do things with pain, too. I mean, you've got these people who go to trance and really kind of stop the pain from affecting them. And certain people whose beliefs have certainly healed things that the doctors thought were impossible. But the idea that the mind can't affect the body, I think, is one of the biggest problems and misconceptions in Western medicine. It certainly can.

07:29We all know people who are super, super negative wind up getting really sick, too. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's real. I've had moments in my life where I was too stressed out and I wasn't balanced. And those are almost always the moments where you wind up getting sick. And there's a direct correlation between that. There's a direct correlation between positive energy and positive results in a physical form. They're all connected. One of the DMT trips that I had, I'll never forget this because it was a real life-changing experience. The DMT trip is like being shot through a cannon to the center of the universe, and all of a sudden you have all the information around you all the time. But it's like they're slippery dolphins. You can't grab them. It's like all the information is there, but it's like you can't harness it. You can't figure it out.

08:14And it's very, very overwhelming, and it can be terrifying. And in one trip that I had, I got real scared in the middle of it. And I started thinking all this negative shit, it just got away from me. And as I was thinking all this negative shit, the DMT trip became black and green and dark. And it became like jagged. And then it just looked harsh. And it started to be almost like cancerous. It looked like it was growing. and it was moving in an asymmetrical way. It was just fucked up. And then I realized, okay, this is you're thinking negative. Stop thinking negative. Think positive. Relax. Let go. And as I'm saying all these things, the colors are slowly changing. And then when I completely relaxed, it went boom. And it blossomed into these beautiful geometric patterns. It's like once I started thinking positive and going,

09:16okay this is just silly you can control your mind think pot let go love love boom boom it like showed me in a physical form like something that I could actually look at and watch I could see negative energy and positive energy and that the lesson was that these can be controlled to a certain extent they can be managed and they can certainly be managed by your intent and your attitude and your ideas. Yep. No doubt about it. I mean, that's a, it's a powerful lesson to learn, you know, is to be able to manage that not only when you're on, I mean, it's psychedelic. That's like, that's like when you're in the, that's the real game time, you know, that's the playoffs. That's when you need to bring all your training and practice to bear because it's, everything is magnified. You're under the microcosm, you know, in a real intense moment.

10:05You don't know yourself until you have a psychedelic experience. You might think you know yourself, but I guarantee you, you're going to find out who you really fucking are when you go deep. When you go deep and you come back and you have to kind of assess everything and you look at yourself through fresh eyes, the ego, while you're sleeping, while you're working, it's gaining ground. It's like the fucking Fed. It's stealing money and it's pocketing things and taking control over certain areas. It really is like the government. And then you don't realize how fucking embedded it's become in your system until you have a blowout. Until you have a psychedelic boom blow out experience and that ego get just shucked aside like you know like a fucking explosion in a comic book movie and the ego's sitting in a tree with half its clothes off

10:53hanging from branches because it just got blown out you know then then you get to see yourself again then you get to see who you really are yeah but the time off of that man you got to be real careful because that ego he fucking gets out of that tree fucking brushes himself off and clings a hold of you and starts running shit again. Listen, it'd be a lot easier if you just let me handle this. I got this. I get this. Dude, you're the shit. Okay? You're going to do this because you're the fucking man. Trust me. Have a seat. I'm going to drive. And the next thing you know, the fucking ego's in control again. Your life is fucking confusing. I think that's why it happens even to the shamans. You know, the masters, this is not something that they're, you know, void of. You know, because they get a lot of power in their little communities and things. And so,

11:36the medicine has to bring them back. You're a spiritual person, but you're all Also, I mean, the idea of spirituals, the word is a weird, tainted word, unfortunately. The word spiritual is so tainted. You know, automatically hippie nonsense comes into play when you start using that. But the bottom line is you are thoughts and ideas, but you are also a physical, biological being, a vehicle. And just like your fucking car where you have to change the oil and you have to make sure that spark plugs are in setting correctly and make sure that the computer's tuned up. Like you have to do that with your body as well. Your body is a vehicle. And if you ignore it, much like your fucking car starts spewing out black smoke and shits out and dies on the road, your body does the same goddamn thing as your car can do. If you don't maintain it correctly, it will fuck with you. It will fuck with you.

12:26And, you know, and the ego is a part of the physical body. You know, it doesn't seem like it is because, again, you can't fucking measure it. You can't beat on it with a hammer, but it is a part of who every fucking living organism that wants to stay alive, that has a conscious consciousness and has the ability to recognize that it's here, that has self-awareness. The ego comes into play because that's how you stay alive. That's how you succeed. That's how you get girls. That's how you fucking get money. You get money. You work for the ego. The ego is it's a part of the machine, but it can get away from you. You know, what you were saying there, it touches on the very core of my entire philosophy in life, which is balance. And that's what the warrior poet is. It's the samurai that appreciates the cherry blossom tree.

13:10It's gladiator when he's walking through the fields of wheat and appreciating that. It's the ability to maintain that kind of balance of both the physical side and the spiritual side. And really, that's, I think, the message. If I had one message to bring, it's like you've got to have both. You can't just be this spiritual being only and go on these trips and stuff. You got to hone your body. You got to keep it healthy. You got to be able to operate in this world because in this dimension you're in, you know, people aren't going to, you know, lay down for you just because you have a higher spiritual truth. Like you have to bring both aspects to bear. And I think that's what we were supposed to do. And I think everybody, almost everybody is too whack on either side. You know, there's the big muscle heads that are like, oh yeah, fuck that hippie bullshit

13:54crystals eighth dimension that fucking faggot and then there's this you know the other side of things that's like they have no sense of humor yeah no sense like almost academic yeah it's all energy it's all love it's all light and then someone fucking snatches their purse and they're like oh my god there's something wrong with you know like protect your shit you know like both sides are applicable and I think that's where people are flawed and they're so vigilant about protecting their little niche like my shit is right I'll pound you if you're wrong and if you believe something else and the other people like you're just an ignorant ape you know on the other side of things and no one wants to kind of bridge that gap but our birthright is to have all of it and that's what we should strive for is complete balance in both of those aspects and I think

14:38I'm hoping that's why you know some people will will listen to kind of what I'm saying it's because I try to I try to be able to do that like I want to kick ass in business and still talk to people about, yeah, dude, I went to another dimension and it was fucking crazy. But I'm over here. I'm going to be killing it in your world too. So don't think I'm slipping. And that's what I'm trying to do. That's my goal. A lot of people want to push aside or deny the importance of the physical world, whether it's capitalistic gains or whether it's keeping your body fit and sexually attractive. They want to deny the significance and importance of these things and the meaning of these things almost as like a form of socialism because they don't want to compete. And they don't want to have to be sexually attractive. And so women will say, oh, is that what you care about? Oh, you're shallow.

15:34You care about what someone looks like? No, I'm a human being. I'm a human being. And if you're fat, that's gross. OK, that's just the way it is. And you can pretend all you want. And, you know, maybe you'll take fat with a great personality over skinny that's a cunt. Yeah, maybe you make some compromises and, you know, no one's perfect physically. But let's be honest about what we're looking at and what you like and why you like it. And that goes with capitalism as well. That goes with being a successful person. You know, there's a lot of people that think that there's something shallow about being monetarily successful. And I think that's a form of socialistic thinking as well. I was like, you want this to be a level playing field because you can't compete. And that's really what it is. And you've got to find your fucking place in the sun, jackass.

16:19And some people, I will never be playing professional basketball. I'm 5'8", and I don't run that good. And it's just the way of the world, man. It ain't a fair world, okay? You've got your own hand. This is your journey. You deal with the hand that you're given and just find your fucking place. But don't try to hold other people back. don't try to say there's something wrong with that girl being sexy as fuck don't think there's something wrong but because that guy's got a a six-pack that makes girls wet you know when they see him you can't hate because you're fat you can't hate you oh what he's shallow just going to the gym all day I'm sure he's really interesting to talk to maybe he is maybe he's more interesting than you stupid because guess what it only takes like an hour a day to work out you're telling me

17:00all those other hours of the day he has to be doing meaningless meathead shit to make your paradigm work no you're just you're just you want to pull the playing field down you're not trying to level things out you're not trying to rise you're trying to everybody's above you you're crabs in a bucket man you're social crabs in a bucket yeah that's absolutely right a lot of bitches out there folks and most of them are men how about that remember that when you hear just whiny, cunty, negative, stupid shit from dudes. You bitch. Saddle the fuck up. Yeah, it's, you know, I think back a long time ago, and I think we've touched on this maybe on the last podcast, but, you know, you had to go to war. And in some countries you still do. And I think that's why that Israeli dude was so cool. Like everybody in Israel goes to war. And he was like, listen, the kids are a little unruly or whatever.

17:53But the parents don't care because they know, you know what, 19, you're going to war. like Israeli army is active it's very active doesn't rest you know so that's one kind of last people that's holding but still they're fighting with lasers and a lot of things I mean not this guy he was running a tank they're fighting the shit that we give them yeah it's a trippy situation though they're about the size of rhode island and they're surrounded by people who hate them I know so countries all over the place that hate them and some of them have nuclear weapons yeah but the fact that each one has to be a warrior at some point you know I think it it It impacts their culture. And that's the way it used to be back in the Roman days. Every philosopher, like I said, Socrates was a badass. Every philosopher had to be. They ran campaigns with swords and stabbed barbarians in the throat

18:38and then talked philosophy over some wine later. And that aspect is largely ignored, I think, and one of the large sicknesses, I think, of our world. They are like you said. We definitely talked about this before, the coming of age ceremony, that this the ritualistic aspect of you know making a big deal of coming of age because I think that's something that's missing from this world because I think the kids today like they don't know when they're a man you know when are you a man you man when you're 22 or 23 is that your man well your dad still calls you a fuckhead you need to borrow money are you still a man you know when do you become a man officially you know and in a lot of you know cultures there's a ceremony you know like the guys in the Amazon that do that bullet ant glove. Yeah, we saw that tree, by the way. Shit. Those ants look pretty happy.

19:30The fuck out of here. It's an ant that bites you, it stings you, and it feels like your arm is being slammed in a car door for 24 hours. Apparently, it is blinding, unbearable pain. And for the coming of age ceremony, these crazy motherfuckers take these ants and they get these oven mitts and they make them themselves and they're all porous and they stuff the ants in there so the ants can't go anywhere. And you have to shove your hands into these gloves filled with bullet ants and motherfucker that looks scary. The tears that were just streaming down these men's faces as they were going through the ceremony. When you get through that, man, you have the right to say you're a man now. You know what I'm saying? You feel like this is a very clear boundary I've broken through. you know I wouldn't suggest bullet ants but I yeah well that's a bit better than boy look at

20:27what happened to ari you know I think about it I I often think about it in the realm of politics you know like I feel like politicians should have to fucking earn their place like whether it's bullet ants or like a five-step psychedelic you know trip where it's like all right you want to you want to lead us here's what you got to do first you're going to go take a boga 24 hours It's going to cure you of your addictions of fucking blowing coke off gay intern cock. Whatever you're into, it'll, you know, at least the coke part, maybe not the gay intern. I don't think it'll cure that. But, you know, whatever it's going to, whatever your, you know, addictions are, cigarettes, heroin, coke, whatever, a BOGO blast that out of you 24 hours. All right. So you go from there.

21:09And then I think they should have to do a fast for a week where they get smoked out every day and have to control their hunger and not eat and think. and then after that like maybe go and do the ayahuasca you know and then from there bring a bipartisan group to a campfire where they all do mushrooms and just talk about ideas and shit and then hit fucking session I'll drop a cap of pure pharmaceutical grade MDMA and then that's it boom now you're just making these people party but listen I want to be a politician so I can get those good drugs imagine man imagine how different they would be if they had to do some kind of imagine how different they would be if they had to go through boot camp just that Go through something that shows your character other than the photographs of your cock that you send to your intern. He busted another guy.

21:55He busted another fucking politician sending pictures of his cock. Today, some fucking new guy's resigning. I don't even know who he was. Just some dumbass who thinks it's okay to send pictures of his dick through his fucking cell phone to some chick who turns out to be working for the enemy. Wow. Yeah. So he was kind of set up. Yeah, yeah, he was set up. He's a fucking fool. he looked like a fat 50 year old probably couldn't believe he was going to get some pussy so I'm going to see your cock okay here's my cock shit and the next thing you know these pictures are on the net and he looks like a fucking idiot and now he's got to resign god damn man why aren't they allowed to do that though just because they have their job they're not allowed to do that on their off time they're still men because they pretend they're someone else because they pretend to be family men

22:40with great Christian values and loyal to their wife and their vows but meanwhile they're sending cock pictures all over the fucking internet and so you know that this is a person who's full of shit and this is a person who can't be trusted his character can't be trusted because he's pretending to be something he's not it's not like tommy lee sending pictures of his dick and you're like oh tommy you know it's fucking tommy lee he's crazy he's married to pamela anderson we've all seen his dick you know what I'm saying yeah it's like if tommy lee was sending pictures of his dick to girls he'd be like well if my dick looked like that I'd be I said pictures of it too. Why not? You know, it's not like that. When someone pretends to be something they're not, and we know they're not, we know that there's no way most politicians can really be the way they are.

23:24You remember how John Edwards used to pretend he was until we found out he was banging some other chick while his wife was dying of cancer and apparently he fucking physically threatened her. And, you know, yeah, he didn't even fucking use campaign funds to hide the fact that he was banging this broad. So now he's probably going to go to jail. They're fucking going after John Edwards. But at one point in time, John Edwards was this lawyer with good old-fashioned American values and pull him up by your bootstraps, you know, work ethic. And, you know, you come to find out that it is impossible to be a pure person, to be the guy that you're pretending to be, to be a politician. They push it back so far that eventually it pops out somewhere. It blows out. They're dressing up like a tiger and taking pictures. Or Al Gore fucking tries to get his dick sucked while he's getting a massage,

24:18and the chick wants to charge him with sexual assault. You know there's some truth. There's something happened there. You know something happened there. I don't know what it was. She might have overblown it. He might have just rubbed his cock on her just as a little tester. Who knows what the fuck happened? But whatever happened, it's not what we thought Al Gore was. We didn't think Al Gore was whipping his dick out in fucking hotels while he's getting massaged. We didn't think that was he was pulling girls on top of him. We didn't think that was Al Gore. I don't know if he did that, but he did enough or got into a situation that was enough for him to get in trouble. Yeah. You know, I mean, no one talks about what Winston Churchill did with his women. You know, like that. That was like it didn't fucking matter. He was fighting the Nazis. He was kicking ass.

25:01And I think all our politicians now, they're so fraudulent in what they're kind of projecting that it does matter at this point. it's like you're a hypocritical lying little bastard like you know but if they were real like really doing shit and very honest with what they were attacking and the issues they were attacking were honest and they were coming from a real place it's like oh yeah our fucking fearless leader after a big you know a tough night he had some you know sexual indiscretion whatever you forgive that stuff but when they build this foundation full of you know puritanical nonsense then they do that they feel like that's the only way to get elected though you know there's so much power in bullshit today with the idea of the the christian ideology and the you know the christian right and

25:44the fucking you know so uber judgmental and that that there's a that's a big political push because those people are organized those those the really right-wing christian fundamentalist that that movement, that's a very organized movement. And if they're on your side, you can do a lot of damage. And if they're against you, it can really hurt. You know, if they organize the churches and they all of a sudden pull out and they say, well, this fucking Al Gore doesn't believe in Jesus. Well, fuck him. You know, they'll go crazy. You have to fake that you believe in Jesus, whether you do or not, you better say you do, because you're, if you say you don't, you're going to piss off 50 fucking percent of the country and you're never going to get anything done yeah yeah it's a it's a fuck situation and I think that's why you know there's the shamans

26:33down there when they talk about 2012 they talk about it just as a tipping point but that's like that's they talked about it what they said yeah well they said that 2012 is the tipping point that's when the world has to start changing and it will uh upheavals will happen they don't know if it's going to be economic they don't know if it's going to be you know physical it's not the end of time or anything like that and that was it was kind of cool to hear them talk about it like that's all nonsense that's all hype what it is it's it's the point at which things must start changing for us why is there a date why is it do I think it's december 21st 2012 or why is it 2012 I think it correlates to uh astrological or astronomical kind of event right isn't there some kind of alignment I've heard obviously I'm not an astronomer but I've heard neil tyson

27:19talk about how that's bullshit and that that event happens all the time that everyone's talking about how it aligns with the center of the galaxy. And it's like, it always does. It happens all the time. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I don't exactly know how they got the date. I mean, I think it was tied to some kind of astronomy. There's so much going on in the idea of astrology and astronomy. There's so much going on where, you know, they can figure out that the moon is off a little bit with its gravity. And then they have to figure out what is responsible for this error in the moon's gravity. Well, it could be a brown dwarf star that lays, you know, 100 million miles outside of Pluto. And that's like the current theory. But they can figure that out. They can figure out, they can measure gravity and know that there's errors in places and try to like figure out, well, why,

28:05where is this error coming from? So we know that for sure that the moon's effect and its particular gravity has an effect on tides. We believe it has an effect on human behavior, although that's all subjective. But we know that these little bodies or these motions and these things that we can't quite grab a hold of have a very physical effect on the earth, like in the tide. Who knows how many different things are doing that all the time? With the procession of the equinoxes, the fact that the earth wobbles on its axis, 26,000-year cycle, and in between that times, you never know what is aligned with what when you were brought into this world. And the idea behind astrology, as fucking flaky and new-agey and bullshitty as it sounds, is that these events, these alignments of stars and positions of the moon and all these different things, they actually affect how a human being is charged

29:02as they're set loose from the vagina into the world. You know, that it actually has... And look, it fucking... I know a lot of Leos that seem like Leos, you know? I know a lot of Cancers that act like Cancers. Scorpios that seem like Scorpios. Fuck, it sounds like utter horseshit, but god damn it's fucking close it seems it seems damn close yeah so yeah I mean I don't know exactly what the uh what the event is that they named the date for they didn't go into that but what they said is that a new type of person has to emerge at that point and that the old ways have to change and they will and that things will get fucked up enough where they have to it's like it's not like we all got a rally and and you know but we do I mean we do to a certain degree we have to prepare for it but it'll it'll force itself to happen so we just need to be ready for it is what they're

29:48saying like the new era is going to come and it's going to happen either complete economic upheaval physical upheaval of the earth whatever is going to happen is going to force our hand and then the new people are going to have to emerge they call it the legend of quetzalcoatl the feathered serpent but really that represents the new type of human that comes and starts taking a leadership role so all of these cock picturing politicians and everything whatever they believe is going to happen is going to change that paradigm where all of a sudden that becomes de-emphasized either faith in them gets lost a new system has to emerge new leaders new you know political structures this is the shamans have actually explained this to you yeah do they talk about the internet uh are they on twitter not much my hot dot not score is you can tell you can tell the mountain

30:36The mountain shamans are different than the jungle shamans, but you can tell a good mountain shaman by how much he smells like burnt llama shit because that's how they stay warm up in the high parts. They burn llama shit? If he really smells like burnt llama shit, you know he's probably authentic because then he's up above 15,000 feet for most of his life. Jesus Christ, but no cell phone, no internet. He's missing out on all the cool YouTube videos. One of the guys I was talking with had a full URL at the bottom of his little card. So they're starting to adapt to it. Nice. They need that. You know, people poo-poo the cultural experience, you know, because it's filled with morons and Lady Gaga fans. But there's nothing wrong with Lady Gaga. Okay, that's a part of the trip. And I think she's fascinating. I like some of her music. How about that?

31:21And there's nothing wrong with the rest of the cultural experience, even the most ridiculous aspects of it. It's all part of us, you know, and you don't want to be locked out. I don't buy that being locked out. When I talk to someone, I go, I don't even have an email. Well, you're a fucking moron. How about that? You don't want an email. You don't want people to be able to send you cool shit that you can read. You don't want photos that'll blow your mind. You don't want someone turning you on to some fucking article that might change your life. You don't want that? You don't want that. Okay. You're too cool for that? What are you going to do? Sniff flowers, you fucking weirdo? And for them, it's like, I mean, really, do they want to just affect only the few people in the village? If you're a real shaman, you're like, yeah, fuck yeah. I want to get my word out there.

32:00I want to make change. I want to make things happen. And I think it goes back to kind of what Pressfield says about professionals, like the professional, the shamans down there were professionals. They're not trying to be shamans. They just fucking are. That's their job. That's what they do. And they're professionals at it. So, yeah, the Internet comes along. They analyze that tool. They're like, oh, yeah, that's cool. You know, if something funny happens in the middle of their ceremony, they're not like, I better not laugh or people might think that I'm not a shaman. You know, they're like, they'll fucking crack up and be like, and then they'll just get back to their work when they're done. They don't take themselves so seriously that it's like anything could shake the experience. It's not for other people. They're going to do their work.

32:38And whatever happens when they do their work, that's fine. They go with it. And that was something I really appreciated. Because even when you get out here in this kind of slightly pseudo-spiritual thing, it's like they're putting on an act. You know, like the music has to be perfect. And this has to be. The candles have to glow the light. And the crystal has to be without impurities. you know and they're like okay you know if they use rocks they're like this is a good rock you know and it just looks like yeah a fucking rock spiritual bullshit spiritual talk is the grossest shit on the planet I got married by a hack we got some lady off the internet that married us and oh it's brutal your love is two streams that will become together a growing river it will wash over the rocks of the world like oh you crazy bitch there was no feeling to it at all like as she was saying it,

33:28there was no connection to the words. It was just utter spiritual nonsense because it was a non-denominational wedding, obviously, because I'm not religious, nor is Mrs. Rogan. Yeah. So we had to listen to this nonsense, crystal sucking, fucking... Should have had Joey Diaz marry you. World of Narnia. Yeah. This bitch lived totally in Narnia. She had a hut in Narnia. It was brutal. I found the article about the Colombian shaman. He was arrested in Texas and charged with ayahuasca possession. He flew into the Houston airport. And the crazy thing about being charged with ayahuasca possession is the plants that you use to create ayahuasca are not even illegal. That's the weirdest aspect of it. I met the guy from Bouncing Bear Botanicals. He came to my show in Vegas. Yeah. If you don't know the story, there was a guy who ran a website called Bouncing Bear Botanicals.

34:25and it's a website all dedicated to selling legal plants that have psychedelic properties to them, like the San Pedro cactus that you could buy at fucking Home Depot. Yeah, well, you can make mescaline out of that shit. You can open that bitch up, make some peyote if you know what you're doing, and trip your balls off. This is off some shit that you just buy at Home Depot, and it's totally legal. It's a beautiful cactus, and a lot of people don't even know about the psychedelic properties of it. They have it just to decorate their garden because it's pretty. but it's not illegal so they they he has this there he's selling this he's selling the different socotria viridis and the different uh plants that you mix to make ayahuasca he's selling those he's selling salvia he's selling all these different plants that are absolutely legal morning glory

35:11seeds you know a lot of people don't know that morning glory seeds just those regular fucking seeds that you buy when you go to plant to make flowers well the ones that you buy most of them They've been treated so that they are not psychoactive because regular morning glory seeds, you can grind those bitches up and eat them and you'll trip your fucking balls off. Hell yeah. So untreated, they're legal though? You can buy the untreated ones? It's hard to get. It's hard to get the untreated ones. You're supposed to treat them because the government is aware of the psychedelic properties of them. Meanwhile, of course, it's not nearly as dangerous as cigarettes or alcohol or anything. is a sanction, but it's too mind-bending for the government to allow the unwashed masses to participate in. So your wise daddy government has figured out how to neuter this incredibly brilliant

36:00psychedelic plant to the point where most people aren't even aware of its properties. But regular morning glory seeds was Terrence McKenna's first psychedelic trip. That's what sent him on his fucking wacky journey of being the psychedelic shaman of the new world. And that was a common thing that people did in the 70s and the 60s. Before the government got hip to it, they were just tripping balls on morning glory seeds. So this guy, John, is that his name? Is that his name from Bouncing Bear Botanicals? Anyway, there's two dudes that I met that came. They were high as fuck. They were so high I could barely talk to them after the show. They came to my last Vegas show and I talked to them outside and that swarm of people, remember those two of those crazy guys, they were trying to have a serious conversation with me. Maybe it was like 500 people trying to take pictures and they want

36:48to hold on to my hand and talk to me. I'm like, dude, there's a lot of people here. I can't really talk to you about your arrest. I'm glad you're doing the right thing. I'm glad you got out. But apparently they let him out of jail. They had to let him out eventually because there's nothing you can fucking charge him for. There's nothing that said that he was making drugs. Trashed his place. Trashed his place. Confiscated all his stuff. I don't know if he got his money back, but they froze all that as well. For nothing. For nothing. Because the government is scared of psychedelics. It's amazing how scared they are of it. And I guarantee you they're scared of it because they're not experiencing it. It's that simple. Like when you get into like Alex Jones believes crazy shit, like he believes that the elites are all smoking DMT. Like they're all, you know, he'll talk to you about,

37:27they're all in fucking Guantanamo Bay. They're all down in Guantanamo Bay and they're smoking DMT, connecting to the spirit world. They believe in eternal life, what they're going to do. And he'll tell you all this nonsense that he absolutely positively believes in. but I believe 100% you cannot smoke DMT and not be empathetic towards other people that are doing it. You cannot take ayahuasca or mushrooms without being empathetic and wanting other people to do it. These people that are trying to keep everybody from it, those are the people sending their dicks to their fucking secretaries in their emails. Those are the fucking hypocritical shitheads with huge flaws in their character that we have running this country and running this world. And unfortunately, that's one of our biggest issues. We consider leaders. We know for sure that it's a bullshit scam and we allow it.

38:18We have resigned ourselves. We know that the president has speech writers. We know that everyone has a bunch of people that will review every word that he's going to say and it's going to be calculated and they're going to sit down and come up with the right words and enact the most emotional impact. To the point where they even fucking, they used to plagiarize other people's speeches before they got busted for it. Joe Biden, our own fucking vice president, used to plagiarize. He would plagiarize Kennedy's shit. They caught him doing that in 1988. That's why he had to quit running for president. You know, and that's why he had to like sit in the background and wait for everybody to kind of forget about it before he could be vice president. You know, we know for a fact that it's a bullshit hustle. We're all aware of lobbyists. lobbyists, we're all aware of special

39:03interest groups and corporations donating millions of dollars. We're all aware that the Supreme Court changed the ruling so that a corporation can now act as an individual, so they can donate as much fucking money as they want, which is absurd. The idea that a corporation that would rely on politicians and their decisions to make money in a way that may or may not be ethical, but they'll rely on it, and then they just donated X amount of fucking millions of dollars towards this person it's insane it's amazing and we accept it for now because things are relatively placid you know yeah we have some a few financial difficulties but whatever people's lives they go on and we go and you know what they're saying about 2012 is all right at a certain point things aren't going to be fucking placid anymore and at that point we're not going to accept that

39:48bullshit we're not going to expect except these weak ass politicians who don't really stand for anything to lead us anymore so what's going to happen who the fuck knows they don't know they don't have the answer but they're going to say some type of new person is going to have to emerge and be like yo this is bullshit like we need to make some changes now like things are getting fucked up even worse and worse have you seen the the the numbers that they did when they were they did an audit of the uh the fed to find out where the fucking money went for the bailout and they found trillions of dollars that went to these weird fucking overseas banks and totally beyond description how much corruption and ridiculous bullshit is involved and how little accountability there is for the distribution of the taxpayers wealth. I mean, it's a fucking free for all,

40:36man. It's craziness. So it's to say that there's a few financial difficulties. The whole thing is built on this foundation of unfixable bullshit and there's no solution in sight. Yeah. That's worse I mean it is getting worse credit rating about to be downgraded china already did they downgraded our credit rating even though we didn't default even though we raised our our debt ceiling they're like these bitches are like on the edge you know it's like when you try to get too many loans even if you pay your loans back the the banks start going why are you asking for all this money dude what do you what's going on with you what do you got a gambling problem but yeah it's it's it's it's not it's not fucking getting fixed and the system in this the the the way it's set up right now and the model that we're operating under, it's not getting fixed. And everyone's

41:22frustrated. No one knows what to do. And me, like you, like I'm fucking completely full of shit. All I do is just complain about it. And then I go about my day. And as long as I have food in the refrigerator and I have the ability to use my credit card to buy gas, I'm only going to yap too much. You know, it almost like it has to fall apart on all of us before we step back and we go, all right, all right. Well, now we have to admit that this doesn't work. Right. Well, what you're But you're doing something more important than that, I think, as well, is that you're creating a movement of consciousness. I mean, every time new people tune in, you have their ear, and these people can become activated. Yeah, but I have no answers. But there's no crisis yet, necessarily. Right. Sort of there is, though, no? Kind of, probably, if we had the foresight to really look ahead

42:08and start doing things now. But it's not prescient enough. It's not beating down our door. So it's just really not going to happen realistically, probably. Not that we shouldn't try and do it or whatever. I'm not saying that, but so much work, though. That's the problem. If you want to live your life at some point when things get fucked, you know, you may have this is a Joe Rogan fucking emergency podcast. Listen, like this is what needs to happen. Like seriously. And you'll have you'll have that power like fucking John Connor for your own small people of conscious fucking humans who are going to be able to then go out and like, all right, everything we're being fed is nonsense. Don't you think if the shit goes down, the Internet's going to be the first thing they shut off? they tried to do that in other countries though they have they've done it but yeah they did it

42:52in libya didn't they didn't they do it in egypt yeah egypt but there was still ways around it people were still getting messages I don't think the government's gonna intentionally fuck us I just think they're gonna be incapable of helping us at that point you know like that's my personal belief I don't think they're gonna be like shut the internet down it's just gonna be like ah what do we do we're a bunch you know we've never fucking stuck our hand in a glove full of ants we're not ready for this shit it could be either or though right could be could It could be either or. I mean, there's a reason why they do these fucking FEMA tests and they have, you know, giant stockpiles of plastic coffins. You know, that's all been documented. They've prepared. They have a lot of drills they've prepared for. Mass extinction events and, you know, big, huge environmental catastrophes,

43:34natural disasters. I mean, the government has camps. They have FEMA camps. These are real. You know, this is Alex Jones. You know, he'll start talking about FEMA camps. But those are real. They really do have places where they have cots set up and they have fucking almost like a prisoner of war camp. Because if the shit really does hit the fan, you know, we get wiped out in nuclear war or a fucking asteroid hits or something nutty that fucks up the world. We really are going to have to detain a lot of people. We're really going to have to calm everybody the fuck down. If we're going to evacuate areas, we're going to have to have places to shelter these people. we're gonna have to have buses where women and children are crying and they're being separated from the father and the father sitting there with a son and we'll meet you at the camp and then

44:17that's real shit they're gonna get on buses and we're not gonna know where everybody is and we're not some people are not gonna be that's possible this is a fucking fragile world we live in yeah it's possible you know and little and then little colonies will get set up individuals will have different you know who knows how that but the structure could break and at that point some new system can emerge it's almost like that's when we have to bring in the colombians bring in that fucking ayahuasca donkeys bring in big clay pots riding on the back of donkeys get them to start singing the whole way you got it man yeah I can get in there dude I can get down I can get down with the ayahuasca arrows you could so what did they say about smoking dmt what did they say well they said that that's just kind of a it's kind of a rocket ship that plants you right in

45:06that right in that sixth dimension but only the sixth dimension never the seventh and the eighth they say mostly mostly not because it's too short of an experience you can't really you have to kind of gather steam through the through the dimensions or something like that and and I the smoking the dmt kind of skips over the fifth where you usually kind of start getting in these dreams it's like wham bam into the sixth and that's why they say that there's some disorientation there a lot of lessons to be learned in wisdom anytime you sneak outside of time which is how they describe it is sneaking outside of time you have lessons to learn but there you know once you're there you have a short window of time and you're trying to absorb as much as possible but the forces aren't there to align you to help you know kind of push you farther because that's that's a process you

45:50have to gain knowledge like what happened to me I had to download something or whatever they said in the seventh to get you know to get that farther like just have more steam and energy to get there And they talk about it as fuel. The problem with the smoking DMT is the fuel runs out. They have enough fuel to get you into orbit, but it's not that extra afterburner that's going to come in and shoot you to Mars after you're outside of the atmosphere. Eventually, it's just going to suck you right back in. And so that's what they say the difference is between those. Interesting because the intravenous doses of DMT that Strassman did in those studies, those people had 30-minute trips. I wonder if that's enough. I wonder if that takes you to a different place. I didn't get to ask him. It's supposed to be a more intense experience when it's experienced, when it's done intravenously.

46:38It's supposed to be more in-depth and a lot more entities. Yeah. A lot more people being more of what they would describe that sounds remarkably similar to UFO abduction experiences. Right. That kind of thing. That you're dealing with these physical things in this other place. Yeah. It's a real fucking symptom of our culture that that shit's all illegal. That people like you can come back and you get so fucked up that you have to change your name. And it's illegal. It's illegal, you know. It's really annoying. It's really annoying that we're in this fucking nanny state. This shitbag, stupid nanny state country. Yeah. Do you find any side effects at all? Like, does your mind wander in places over and over again? Do you have any different night dreams? Some of the challenges were just reintegrating, you know.

47:27and a lot of that's just you get to this different world and experience different things. But you leave your life on the treadmill running full speed, you know, and I tried to hop right back the fuck on. And I got, you know, tripped up and slammed against the back wall, you know, to use that analogy. Like, it's hard to get back, you know, and hard to find kind of the balance of integrating what what you found out there or not. But do you feel like the world doesn't seem the same when you when you came back? Do you feel anything's changed in the world?

47:57No, you know, I feel like, you know, I've, I've changed the way I look at things has changed, you know, the fact that I can I view myself now more like a needle piercing a nine layered onion, you know, and I'm, you're consciously aware of the first four, four layers, you know, that part of the needle, but you're still connected to another five layers above you. and you just don't see it. Just that very thought alone has changed my life. It's hard to incorporate in everyday things. I've been focused pretty much solely on launching AlphaBrain and making sure that all goes well, and it's been very focused on that. But in my quiet moments, when I can meditate, I can think back and think what I want to do next time I go down there and what lessons I could learn and how I can do that. You need an isolation tank, son. I do. That's your next step. I do. We sell some of these alpha brains.

48:51You don't have to get you one. That's a morning glory. So this is the shit that we've been talking about on Twitter, and we've talked about it on the podcast before. And this is a formula that Chris has put together and that we're selling, and it's called Alpha Brain. And it fucking does something, man. First of all, it gives you incredibly vivid dreams. And it seems to fire up your brain at a higher RPM level or give you some clarity. I feel like it helps me form sentences better. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I don't know if that's what's doing it, but I feel like, man, I'm fucking talking pretty smooth sometimes when I'm on this stuff. Technically, what they say is it enhances synaptic plasticity, which is the way that your neurons can kind of fit together and transfer information. Is this all peer-reviewed stuff or is this spiritual? No, it's a CO colon.

49:42Yeah, this is purely in the scientific tip here. And what's in here? So what it is, it's GPC choline, which is a great form of raw choline, the best form of raw choline, really, glycerophosphol choline, easily absorbed through the blood-brain barrier, whereas some of the other cholines are not. So it's most expensive and best choline for you. And then we have huperziocerata, which has a proven compound called huperzine A, which is an acetylcholine esterase inhibitor. And that prevents the breakdown of the acetylcholine in your brain. And what acetylcholine is in charge of is in charge of focus, memory, clarity. All the Alzheimer's treatments currently, almost all of them focus on rehabilitating your acetylcholine levels and boosting your acetylcholine levels. So even huperzine A, which is part of the huperzius serrata, has been tested in that capacity.

50:30So this is all very scientifically proven. This is not anything pokey pokey. It's just a fact. Higher acetylcholine levels lead to this. Now, the problem with higher acetylcholine levels, otherwise everybody would just be jacking their acetylcholine up, is it can lead to anxiety, anxiousness, short temper. If that's too out of balance, you can get kind of hyper aware. And so what I did with this formula is I said, all right, we want to have strong acetylcholine. It's good. Helps your memory. Helps your mental drives. Help your focus. But we don't want to have all the other things. So I created a balanced formula, and I included things like GABA, which controls kind of relaxation and kind of calm and mental clarity in that kind of calm state. And then dopamine, which handles a lot of your movement activities and some of your mental energy activities. You added dopamine?

51:20Well, it's mucunapurines contains a standardized dose of 50% L-DOPA. And mucunapurines is a herb, I believe it grows in India. And so the 50% standardized L-DOPA is the building block for dopamine. So, yeah, I didn't add dopamine. Actually, you're able to add GABA directly because they're able to extract it from a plant. But the dopamine you have to get through, you know, pushing L-DOPA in your body. Your body will destroy dopamine if you try to put it in directly. So you build it yourself with L-DOPA. The catalyst in that is, again, the pyridoxine HCL vitamin B6, which we have in there, which helps convert it. And then I've just put a ton of antioxidants that are going to give you energy, help your focus. The AC-11 in there, that was shown to actually repair DNA in scientific peer-reviewed studies. So really fucking strong antioxidants.

52:10Going to kind of eliminate some of that mental fog, clear out some of your free radicals, and then allow the acetylcholine boost to be manageable by the other components. Now, have you ever thought about adding 5-HTP to it? Now, that's another formula that I have. And serotonin is a crucial component. 5-HTP is the direct building block of serotonin. It goes L-tryptophan to 5-HTP. 5-HTP then converts to 5-HT, which is serotonin. That's the fourth component. I have another separate formula, the rollover formula, which is specifically focused on building serotonin. So being the fact that I have that there, there's just not that much room in the capsules. And it is important to have. But I recommend that, you know, that doesn't tend to, that doesn't need to be so much in balance for this formula to work. but it is a crucial part of things.

53:00So I recommend either taking my formula or another form of 5-HTP, but it was just a little bit much to fit an efficacious dose of 5-HTP in this alpha brain to bring that fourth component on it. That's too bad because I know a lot of people that have had a lot of positive effects with that. 5-HTP is great. That's why I have a whole product devoted. Roll on and roll over. Yeah, my product, Roll Over, is dedicated specifically to that. Right, but you're selling those in much smaller packages. You're selling like four of those. Yeah, you get bottles of 30. You get bottles of 30 just like this? Yeah. And so do you recommend people taking that if they're not coming off of a, you know, the roll on or roll off is supposed to be like you do MDMA and then your levels are jacked. Yeah, anytime you're depleted. If you're not sleeping, if you're stressed and you're not sleeping,

53:41that's when serotonin is produced is when you're sleeping. So if you're not sleeping, it doesn't matter if you're partying or doing whatever you're doing, you're not going to be producing enough serotonin. So that's when you need to take it. So, yeah, I certainly recommend taking it as part of the regimen. I mean, that formula will probably change a little bit in the next iteration. I have some ideas for it, but I'm going to always have a serotonin-specific formula. You know, if enough people want to have this alpha brain be that complete brain thing, we can look at it. But just as far as dose and capsule size, it's difficult to do everything. I mean, I have a capsule that's specifically designed for serotonin, the whole capsule. The whole capsule. It'd be way too much. It's tough. It's tough. So that one was something that I do recommend.

54:23I do sell on Onnit.com, but it's not in the AlphaBrain, but I highly recommend it. It's a great thing to have. I use it all the time. I love it. I don't take it every day, but I definitely take it on days where I just feel jacked up. I've been taking it for, I don't know, six, eight months here and there. It's one of my favorite things. The roll-on and rollovers are my two favorite things. Yeah, so those formulas will change a little bit, but I'm still going to always keep that kind of concept. And, you know, the alpha brain is getting great feedback. I know, you know, all of us here, we all take it and we dig it. So there's something going on with it. Yeah, for sure. Most certainly does have an effect. Like I said, it gives me the most incredible dreams. And so the reason why that's happening is acetylcholine regulates REM sleep.

55:08That's what determines, you know, you get a wash of acetylcholine during your REM sleep. So the fact that you have excess surpluses of acetylcholine created by the GPC choline and the haperzius serrata allows a deeper and broader wash of acetylcholine to go through your sleep cycles. And so your REM sleep becomes way more intense, longer, and more vivid than when you do have low levels of acetylcholine. All right. So if you guys want to grab this, it's available now at onnit.com, O-N-N-I-T.com. And it's called Alpha Brain. And tell me how you like it. I know some people who have already started taking it, and I haven't yet to talk to one person that hasn't had positive experiences with it. And it's, what is it, $30 for 30 of these things? And people say, oh, it's expensive. But look, this stuff's not cheap stuff. It's what's needed to actually have an effect. It's expensive to package.

56:06I got the best ingredients I could. I cut no corners. Everything's full-spectrum standardized. So this is the best product I can make. I hope people dig it because I played my cards as well as I can and tried to make the best in every aspect of doing it. Well, thanks for coming on and talking about your psychedelic experience that made you change your name. I mean, we're thinking we'll get you drunk on Jack Daniels and you go to being duke next, turn you into some sort of fucking. After listening to that story, though, I would definitely change my name too, it seems like. And you actually got to sit in that thing when we talked with the ancient aliens guy, the big square that was cut out. I did. You got the cut. Yeah. He's got a photo of him sitting. When we were talking to Giorgio Suclos from Ancient Aliens, he was talking to us about this area in Peru where this stone is cut out.

56:58And you can see it if you go to the Ustream page. He put a picture of Chris, excuse me, Aubrey, sitting inside this rock where it was cut out, where they have no idea how they cut it out. Because you have to see it. What is the name of the place again? It's in the ruins in the Sacred Valley. I forget the name of this actual ruin site. It's not coming to me, but it was right there near. It's outside of Cusco by about an hour and a half, and you get to these ruin sites. Either way, it's dope. Go get some Alpha Brain, stupid. Yeah, it does seem like one of the places. Too bad you can't do ayahuasca there. That would be the shit. That sounds fucking badass. Do ayahuasca at Chichen Itza or Machu Picchu or something like that. At the ruins of some ancient civilization. That's what they developed Machu Picchu for as a spiritual center, actually. Really? It wasn't like a political center.

57:54This was their spiritual home. Where did you hear this? Where they would do the rituals from the people there from the Incas. Because modern Western folks have no fucking idea why it was created. They don't have an idea. No, yeah. The shamans all say this was created as their spiritual home. And that's why they created it in such an odd spot. The way that the mountains are around there is ridiculous. Speaking of lost civilizations, I'll be in Milwaukee. August 13th at the Pabst Theater with Joey Coco Diaz. Tickets are on sale right now, and it's like half sold out already, so don't sleep. And then also on September 23rd, Joey and I will be in Denver, Colorado at the Paramount Theater. And that is also just about half sold out now. Denver Showing lots of love I can't wait to come back To Colorado Where I will eventually go When the shit hits the fan And society crumbles

58:47And I have to live In the woods Near where my dog died Folks That's the end Of this fucking show We've had a fantastic time Chris and I Are going to go Check out Red State We're going to go see The premiere of Kevin Smith's new movie And we'll have A full report on that Thank you very much For tuning in To the podcast Please follow Chris on Twitter is, excuse me, Aubrey, his name is Warrior Poet. W-A-R-R-I-O-R-P-O-E-T-U-S. That's on Twitter. Follow Redband. He's very upset about his Twitter numbers. Obsesses on it on a daily. And while you're at it, follow me too, you fucking freaks. If you're not following Joe already, you're ridiculous. Yeah, how dare you? How dare you if you're not following me? I'm trying to hit a million people. I'm only at 413,000. I don't feel validated. All right. That was a moment of weakness. Back to reality. Thank you, everybody, for tuning in.

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