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00:02five four three two ladies and gentlemen live and available right now everlast whitey ford house of pain you yes sir how are you sir how are you doing man brother it's good to see you again been a minute you're going to vegas this weekend for the fights yeah man we got a little party the night before we're doing a little show at the brooklyn bowl with wait my buddy evidence and headphones you don't know where headphones oh we'll put the headphones i feel like i'm alone here with the headphones on there we go here we go now we're on the same team now we're locked in um this is how this is out right yeah it came out about uh three weeks ago something like that maybe a month beautiful i've been in europe for the whole month just touring so this is like everything everlast presents whitey ford's house of pain yeah it's it's you know that's everything in the toolbox i

00:49brought to this record so that's kind of where the title came from just you know it's been eight years since my last real studio album so yeah i figured hey maybe this could be the last one i hope not but just like you know i mean like you know that my story it's like you know with the the family i dedicate a lot more of my time to the family than i used to you know yeah um just because of some of the you know um extra issues we deal with which everything is wonderful and great now you know and dude i'm 30 pounds lighter than the last time i was here how did you do that honestly it started here because i i purposely came here that day it was the first time if you remember it was a while ago i didn't done a thousand podcasts since that day but uh it was the first time i come out and they started talking about anything like you know that was going on in in my life in the public way

01:37and uh you know and i i got a lot off my chest that day and i also planned that day to to put myself in a position to hold myself accountable by this by stating i i don't feel good about the way i look right now and i reached out for i like theoretically for help you know and i got an incredible response from the podcast audience and my own fans i mean i got offered from everybody everywhere how to do this that and the other um didn't really need that because within my own circle some people stepped up and i also did it to hold myself accountable to put it in the universe like i've thrown it out there like i i put it up there on the wall and and stamped it and said here's what i want out of life right now and you know there's nobody stopping me but me and sometimes some of the things i've used to you i used to get on to see you talking about i'm not letting this inner

02:27kick my ass today and i and i just started taking things like that to heart you know and i didn't have how did you change what did you do different i mean like we started talking about it last time therapy you know i mean it's helped a lot for me because of this you know the the added pressures our family faces with my oldest daughter having cystic fibrosis you know it just for a long time i was just learning how to live life with it you know and that got heavy there was some real dark you know heavy moments you know scary moments for her in the hospital you know so we i mean as a human you know you have this baby and you you're just trying to figure out how to not screw it up with a normal health situation you know this is this added thing so it took a long time for me to come to terms at first i got really angry i got into some real you know lieutenant dan warwick god kind

03:15of stuff you know at the top of the sailboat flip you know as i was there all the way and it got to a point where i almost i was that i almost got locked up for trying to fight a cop that was you know trying to just talk to me about something you know i just lost my i had no i had so much anger over so much that i wasn't dealing with and then i found a guy that just really got me a therapist and and it began the the the ball rolling of understanding how to how to cope with a lot of that stuff you know wow so um as far as like first of all you look really good your face your face looks great your skin looks good i'm taking a lot better care of myself it looks like it thank you are you what are you doing different as far as like how you eat or um just eating cleaner you know just trying not to you know uh to be more aware of what's in the food and what's in the meat and stuff you

04:05know i'm still part of the whole commercial meat system though i long to to to get into a situation where i'm hunting and doing things like that it's just we had talked about that for a while you wanted to try hunting pigs at uh tohono well i i asked you what would be the best you know starting point and you were like you know they got bored up there at well to hone and i know some guys and i actually contacted them and i you know i just again this is so busy it's not just this it's the the added stress of like you know i have a wife that when i go on the road she's the sole handler of these problems you know i mean and so that these things you know pile on your guilt and this you know stress and all this you know and um so yeah it's just between that when i'm home i just invest myself i want to be home i want to do as much as i can to lift that weight

04:49so like i get caught about the things all the things i want to do i can't do all the time you know me but it started again now i'm taking care of myself like i'm actually about to start jiu jitsu again you know which i don't know yeah because i forever i was so kind god damn fat in the middle hip escapes where like you know every i was hurting my back or my neck every other time i tried to do i just quit right because it was getting you know i mean i mean i wasn't super advanced i was probably pretty close to getting a blue belt you know i was about a year in on like four lessons a week with just the private you know i was with marcus vanessa i said beverly hills jiu jitsu for a while so now i'm i'm just looking to see what i want to do you know i've talked to eddie a few times i'm talking to a few other guys kron has thrown you in my way doing any exercise at all besides that

05:32cardio not much weights or anything like that just you know keeping it moving i two hours two hours on stage tonight right yeah it's good to do something first uh i feel like uh i always tell people like jiu jitsu is so grueling that i think of why i mean you could just jump in and you will get in shape through jiu jitsu but a good thing to do is like find a place that teaches you kettlebells and take some kettlebell classes and just just get your body strong enough that it can remember one of the things marcus used to do marcus used to run me around the gym for 30 minutes before we could even start a lesson like i literally had to puke for the first like month yeah that's that old school way a lot and then it would take so long that he would be like all right you're past the puke and thing you ran you know but like at first i would like yeah literally be run until i was puked and then

06:21the crazy part about was 15 minutes after you felt great like when you were doing the last thing so it was it all worked yeah those those the old school guys that's how they used to do it they used to um like all the old school carlson gracie classes you'd have a grueling physical workout first hip escapes push-ups sit-ups bodyweight squats all this different stuff there's a good thought process behind that not just that it gets you in shape but also that you learn how to do jiu-jitsu when you're tired so that you learn how to just use technique and not use like physical strength you almost have no choice but to relax yeah yeah yeah there's uh people that disagree with that though they think you should learn technique when you're fresh and it like sits in better but it's just two different schools of thought you know i don't think either one is right it's definitely good to understand

07:07what it's like to be tired and how to how to train and how to how to push yourself when you're tired yeah i'm excited i'm i'm really looking forward to it like i just started talking about like about two weeks ago really getting back into it well that's a lot of weight to lose man that's a big accomplishment i got 15 to go to really to hit my goal yeah i want to be 225. 225 is a good weight yeah um are you taking vitamins or supplements or anything along those lines like a daily um but you know i have restrictions because i take blood thinners and stuff because of this titanium heart valve i have so i have to have a vitamin that's the devoid of uh vitamin k because that's what makes your blood clot so i like a lot of things like a lot of the juicing things and like things like that when you want to go on a juice cleanse i can't do it because it's like

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07:52a lot of it's kale based and like kale is heavy green with a it's high in vitamin k it'll totally like screw up my blood chemistry with you know because i'm going the other direction with blood thinners jesus christ i have to otherwise like a clock could hit like stick to that titanium valve break off and wind up in my brain you know what i mean and then i'm stroked out and that's the last thing we need yeah i remember when you put the microphone up to your heart and you hear that yeah i'm so so like when i'm in here i keep feeling like it you can hear it anyways like all through this i hear it this white noise to me if i want to hear it i can hear i can take my pulse like this just by telling you wow two three you can feel it i can hear it in my own skull like i can hear it in my bones i can hear it it's in me how long is that good for ever forever forever as long as i take

08:38care of it i mean it's been 20 years literally in in 2018 it happened 90 in or in 98. wow and um i just get you know as long as i keep the the blood thinners going and you know i get checked you know two times three times a year you know and then the blood thinners because if you got a clot it would somehow know they get stuck in that valve a clot could like or or it you know it's a titanium valve so the clock could actually form on it the the metal like it could the block if it's the blood's too sticky and too you know has too much cloud it could stick to the bow then break off and then wind up in your brain whoa you know so to avoid blood clots in general yes right what's the difference between that and like a regular valve what would happen with the regular well uh the other choice would have been a peg valve and those are good for about 15 years

09:26like they usually open you up again yeah yeah i would have had to have it done i probably do yeah i probably right now too like i'd be like yo here i go yeah they do that for older people is what they do like you know when you get into your 60s they you know they'll really explore that because pig valve they don't think you're going to be around 50 more years you know they just say well here just for now yeah so it's called a saint jude's saint jude's artificial valve powerful medical technology eddie bravo's got a titanium disc in his back now yeah he just had a surgery that's right yeah his back moves around great it like he was fully compressed where there was like nothing left it was basically bone on bone he was in pain all the time and they just open them up and put a fake valve in there that's crazy or a fake disc rather in there but it's articulating so it like moves around

10:12like a regular disc like he's his it doesn't it's not like he's fused even if you're seeing people that are all females yeah they get the few i have a friend that got that down yeah they're super stiff yeah like wherever it is is basically locked down there's no movement to it anymore but eddie's is is actually it moves like a real disc yeah the that's going to be coming down the pipeline is going to be crazy man yeah i mean i know people with fake everything i know people with fake hips and fake knees and fake butts fake heart valves fake heart valves yeah yeah it's amazing i mean at a certain point in time they're just going to replace your whole body and take your brain out and put it inside you're just going to be able to download your consciousness well that's what elon was saying yo your man got in trouble mad trouble he didn't really they made it

10:57it made some noise man yeah but here's the deal dude when you got 25 billion dollars all trouble is truth it's like good luck with your trouble yeah yeah you're in trouble yeah he's out there with a flamethrower shooting rocket ships into the atmosphere yeah flamethrower is crazy too he does whatever he wants man he's basically like a little kid can you actually buy that is that like not even for sale there's one right there oh you're a kid right there yeah um he sold them all out like in like two days or something right man i don't doubt it i would have said it hadn't been hit what are you going to do with it though that's just fun it's just you have a flame thrower but it's it's literally called not a flamethrower yeah it's amazing yeah it's basically what you saw in the movie aliens remember the second alien when they're shooting the flames of the aliens that's what that thing is

11:49yeah i seen him on something just the other day almost looking like it was it here where it looked like he was gonna set the building on fire yeah that was in here yeah that was on my instagram yeah he's a madman the world needs more of those more people like him not more flame throwers yeah plenty of flamethrowers so uh you looking forward to the fights this weekend i'm i'm super jacked for it man oh you know we got this little show before is anybody coming out to jump around um i don't know they have to they you know i'm waiting for connor to you know how does he not i don't adopt that song well he comes out the sinead o'connor right like he does like usually like that into like the notorious like song like right the you know the yeah i don't know the notorious right yeah who was coming out to jump around marcus davis did he did i know uh uh cavillo that that the the the female

12:44fighter uh she's saying yes yeah thank you yeah i know she comes out to jump around right i met her at a fight she was super cool she was super super cool quite a few people have come out to it yeah i think mashida came out to it once really yeah yeah yeah yeah he's over in bellator now i'm not i'm not always sure they have a choice sometimes i just think dana says you're coming out the drummer well he definitely takes away bad choices i might be the sub when there's a really shitty choice like here throw that in there but then darren till came out to sweet caroline he came out to uh who was that neil diaz neil diamond yeah he had the whole crowd singing along like this is crazy crazy was it was that in boston or in that area of the country no it was uh where was that fight chicago chicago makes sense neil diamond wasn't in chicago it could it could no dallas it was dallas that's strange

13:40that's a little that's a little weird you should have came out to hank williams yeah it was weird it was weird yeah it's just like you know that's a big deal like walkout songs are a big deal you can't have a whack it sets the tone what the thing for me is when i hear one of my songs i'm just i'm just always like oh please win like this i'm just like oh i'm pleased what if your song becomes a curse yeah it's like oh man come on like john anak does stats on fist bumps like how many times people fist bump bruce buffer whether or not they win or lose you know like and diego sanchez broke the curse in his last fight he fist bumped bruce and he won so this one was a curse we were trying to figure it out oh okay because he he was like i think it's like 50 50 right now like whether or not people when they fist bump bruce buffer when they win and there was a bad streak for a while

14:32like three or four people in a row lost that were fist bumping you know bruce gives you the intro you know uh you know and when he gives you the ins and you know diego a nightmare sanchez yeah gives you a little fist bump and if you fist bump them back you know if you do if you do engage in that like anec was like trying to figure out like annika is kind of a degenerate gambler in the most most positive way i mean he's not losing his family or his life but he loves gambling and so he's always like giving you stats on this and finding something to put a bet on right i mean it's not even things he actually bets on but he's always thinking that way could you bet on yeah could i wonder if you could bet on how many people who fist bump bruce buffer you could find somebody to take the bet the thought process would be you're not totally in the zone if you got the time to fist bump proof buffer

15:23i'm not sure if i buy it though no because it's also your moment when you're saying your name and it's like i'd be in that yeah yeah yeah i don't know it's uh it's tricky it's tricky well it sounds like it's about even so it's just one of them things but someone should do stats on it because john annick has only done like uh you know just off the top of his head there's some guy in his basement right now starting oh she's starting to watch the fight yeah for sure write it down okay let's take the notes well you could basically bet on anything these days right in vegas yeah you could pretty much find a lot of things i wouldn't think you could bet on you that you can i don't even bet but i like the fact that you can bet on everything why not yeah like over under coin flips and it's also i like that it's freedom i don't like this idea that people are telling you what you can and can't do

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16:15with your money like you can't gamble your money away you have to go to a spot in the desert like why says who says who like why can't you gamble right here why can't you have a casino why can't you have a casino on every corner who cares like well people are going to lose our paycheck and lose our family and those are really really will they really is that what's going to do it is it the casino maybe for a while but then people will be like you know we shouldn't go there as much yeah it's like the infantilization of people you know keep them protect them from themselves you don't protect them from liquor stores or fast cars you know those things are everywhere everywhere good point right yeah i'm with you man i could never live in vegas though i i would i mean i could live in vegas you know if it was between beirut and vegas you know i'd be like yeah yeah vegas for

17:08sure let's do it i'll figure it out but you know it just it seems to me like this just the whole thing is it's built i mean there's shows and it's wonderful there's neon there's great restaurants and all that stuff but it's also built on you losing money yeah the whole thing is built on you losing and what's the real population of vegas like a half a million people like that of people that aren't they're visiting gambling and for the let's take a guess i'm guessing like half a million people yeah i bet you're about right six six hundred thirty thousand i'm pretty far off man pretty close yeah that's a good guess i would would that have been that's close enough to win the bet yeah yeah yeah i mean if the price is right yeah so it's you've got a real small town there that's acting like a city too it's kind of weird you know well like what is the population at any given time with all

18:00the hotels filled no i would probably guess this weekend's a big week at least double more than that probably i'm saying at least even like an off season off day you're probably at least double that but a lot of the folks that work in vegas they live in like henderson or something like that where you can go it's a nice neighborhood your kids can ride bikes in the street it's like normal there's over there uh uh uh summerlin too that's yeah that's really nice over there yes yeah yeah there's a few of those spots yeah that are like normal actually like staying over there at that red rock that's nice yeah i don't like the strip because it's man too much that's why i like you yeah i just think i get quiet if i want the i'll take a cabbage exactly the he's over 40 minutes away this actually says there's one and a half million people there but at any given time probably more like that yeah

18:48so for the fights what about a big fight weekend what i'm looking for i typed in for hotels how many people are in the hotel rooms i guess there's a 148 000 rooms whoa dude there might be 148 000 irish people there this weekend just screaming if you're if you're there this weekend just pay attention because it's going to be bananas the last time for the mayweather fight there was a video that someone posted of mandalay bay and mandalay bay was not even where the fight was taking place and the irish had this one hallway completely filled and they were all singing they were saying something crazy like sixth avenue in new york they don't give a yeah damn it's one main island it's a little island they all got on a plane it's crazy and there's a lot of us here too you know when i say us yeah i got a little in me one quarter that's there's there's so many more irish or irish part irish people

19:46in america there's more than there are irish people in ireland they did a lot of yeah they came over here and did a lot of and they and they weren't discriminate about you know color or creed or any of that meanwhile jamie's got a notorious t-shirt on with irish flag look at you savage is that available at youngjamie.com there's a link there if you need it oh my goodness powerful commerce i want to try this whiskey honestly that he's got i've got it i got it i got it yeah you're a whiskey expert right i want to i want to lay hands on it what's a good whiskey i was i actually was going to bring you a bottle of this and i will next time but i didn't because of respect for sobriety so october may be falling apart i'm going to tell you right now ladies and gentlemen brett crusher's going on a cruise and r shafir and tom sakura both gave him the green light to uh drink because uh this fitness

20:34challenge is falling apart meanwhile burt is strongly in last place yeah all that talk about the mickey mantle gene he's not even close but what's what's fascinating is ari shafir is very close to me he's only he posted today before my workout that sneaky that he was ahead of me but that's how close he is he's so close that before his workout he was like 100 points ahead of me before my workout rather after his now he's like 400 points behind me but that's uh that's close 400 points is one workout if you're an and you want to get on a treadmill for two hours you can bang out 400 points i banged out 500 today 507 at the end of the workout you're a piece dude it's not a beast man it's boring just watching i was watching uh gladiator there's little red spikes in my workout where i hit 90 that's when the fights were happening i got amped i went into a podcast while you're on a

21:32elliptical for the end of that month it would suck red breast is my favorite new whiskey red breast yeah who makes that it's bread breast it's like an irish whiskey i'm gonna bring you a bottle of the 20 year old it's it's gorgeous 20 years old yeah it's beautiful what was that that we drank with uh stanhope that was really good was it stanhope no stanhope yeah stanholm brought it and doesn't some band make it it's the florida georgia line or some do they make it is it theirs yeah it's like a pop band and they make a good whiskey they're like a country band i think country pop or whatever yeah old camp listen man if you call yourself country but you get them fake rips in your jeans you can go suck a bag of dicks okay that ain't country not saying that they have that i don't even know but you know what i'm saying like those fake rips in the jeans i might have a couple little fake ribs in

22:29my jeans those fake grips drive me goddamn bananas like what are we we're pretending that we work hard or what are we pretending that we we've had these jeans for a long time and they're special to us or do we just buy them off the shelf at macy's pre-ripped like like where the did that take place like if our grandparents who made it through the depression could come over here and see us buying ripped jeans they would realize like what is wrong with this nerfed up softened down shitty country we live in america it's too easy too easy to get by we need wolves in the streets young eric wolves get me started dude can't be running around with fake grips in your jeans you know brandon chop one of my best friends does that oh who's this that's them that's them with the i nailed it i didn't even mean to nail it i didn't even mean that i just took a wild guess i don't know a

23:26goddamn thing about these fellas go to that other one go to that last picture maybe put the glasses on look at look at those g make that bigger well he looks like he got a full disclosure shark i got some paint oh you do have some some great you got some up on your jeans i'm gonna i'm gonna keep it real though i'm not gonna like this is sad let you uh go in on them and uh not come claim my jeans here listen i should shut the up i'm basically wearing yoga pants i got these barbell jeans on these aren't even jeans these are goddamn yoga pants all jeans are made of weird like this ain't i mean well these don't do these aren't even these are actually denim these are like they might as well be spandex i might as well be wearing yoga pants but most most pants are that now even the ones that look like jeans a lot of them are yeah yeah they feel better yes technology it's called advancement

24:14in human civilization yeah you want to drive a car with leaf springs like an or do you want some new magnetic cadillac escalade i want the breeze to you know cruise through your pants or you want to you know be sweaty the breeze from the fake holes i'll take the sweat like a man i'm gonna rock mine because i got skinny enough to wear these okay i respect that i'm gonna wear these wifey well that's two pluses just don't wear cowboy boots oh hello we j we rocking the the sneakers for life dude my friend cam haynes he wears them cowboy boots and i just shut my mouth look down at those big old wooden heels i think andrew santino's bit ever seen andrew santino's but he's got a bit about dudes who wear cowboy boots holy is it funny oh my god that could up on the tube i don't even know if he might not even even put it on a special yet but he's a whole bit about dudes dressed

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25:17up like with cowboy hats on and cowboy boots is hilarious anyway but i digress what's this uh s cow skull with the third eye what's that just a sweatshirt i liked okay i like it too it's one of those brand called adaptation hmm interesting has a fake hole in the elbow oh jesus sorry dude jesus full disclosure i'm not gonna i'm not gonna not tell the truth what is happening with the holes how did that happen what happened to us i'm sorry dude i'm disappointing you so much the reality is this is what's up why does it look better because it kind of does kind of looks better if you're wearing a shirt and it's got like even if it's a new shirt it's got like those little holes around the collar little tiny holes like a little bit of a little bit of rip here a little tiny rip there why does it look better i don't know maybe it's because it's not maybe there's some psychological

26:09way of ripping things that some people are more talented at it that they just know where to make it cool they make it look i mean when we were young like if you had like a pair of uh levi's where the knee was getting thin we would advance that you know there was something cool yeah you would like if it was like we didn't do it or like rip them up like they do nowadays but like like say you had a pair of jeans long enough they you know the knees would get thin if they ripped a little you just kind of run with it maybe stress them out a little bit more yeah why not i don't like that oh well presenting the 1 625 designer t-shirt complete with tears and holes okay we can all agree if you buy that you're a if you spent a thousand dollars on a t-shirt you're kind of an the only good thing about that is i think that's a ladies t-shirt and them holes are right and all she has to do is bend over

26:55entire shoes and it might not be a nip slip it might be a nip poke through right like look where those holes are quite possibly if those titties are jutting out right look at that you know how that works too she might not even be wearing that shirt that might even be a person bro that might be a mannequin yeah they do things and they just put different shirts on with photoshop and now it's crazy but that's a stupid shirt that's a 1 000 there's a stupidest shirt look at this one there's a t-shirt that has a button-down shirt sewn to the front of it what dude it was like on the blogs a couple weeks ago you know what i'm talking about so he's in the sneaker blogs he's in this so he's some of that leaks through and so i'm like you see like these crazy designer crazy do you wear uh i have a couple pairs but i don't really wear them that much thank you i'm more of a jordan guy you ever

27:49thought about lighting them on fire sometimes like when i was you know the dude's kind of bad crazy i actually say that on this album i say i'm fat crazier than yay and sarah palin oh look at this yeah that's a real thing oh good lord that's a real thing so one side has a t-shirt yeah and then the other thing is sewn to the front yeah but like it doesn't even it looks like it's hanging there yeah just hanging like it is just hanging there but it doesn't even look like you're wearing it it looks like it's stapled to the front of your shirt oh what what hold on go back to that price thirteen hundred dollars that's why i'm saying that's worse than the t-shirt buy one right now oh my god thirteen hundred dollars wow for that do you see kanye jumped on the table at a university was talking about leave elon musk alone that dude's lost his mind man what's going on i don't know man i

28:46you know there's a lot of people that speculate and that's all i would say this is from me but ever since that man's mother died he's been on a downward spiral like losing his well uh you know i think he's suffering from some serious like no he he did get into a serious car accident right he broke his jaw before seriously a few years before that that is not a joke no like brain trauma and you listen i'm not a doctor or anything even remotely related to one but i've been around a lot of people have been hit in the head a lot that shit's real like that that will change your brain chemistry it's 100 legit like getting hit in the head is no bueno and car accidents will people up forever some people some people are okay they get they recover but boy there's a lot of people that come back for some significant head trauma and just they're scrambled man and he might

29:38be one of those and it also might be what i talked about in my last special triggered but you live with crazy long enough i remember that something happens you were talking about the soul stealing succubus it might be true dude that was an amazing routine i got to tell you well i was trying to figure out a way that i'd get away with making fun of bruce jenner without being called transphobic circuitous route it was brilliant go a long odom was like a world champion yes basketball player dude you just got cracked out good job bush what happened to him reggie bush got wise and but he just bailed he's got my old car he reggie bush has my 1970 barracuda is that right yeah yeah i sold it to this other dude and this other dude sold it to reggie and he drives around that car it's a dope car that is a dope car yeah so he's got some taste yeah and he got wise

30:48weird things are going on over there man he smashed and bolted that's how you do it and he's he smashed before the fake ass came into the picture too that's another phenomenon i don't even understand diaper butt it does it's like well i'd like a nice round butt yeah i like a real yeah there's my car there's reggie bush driving it well it's not my car it says now yeah look at that reggie you glorious bastard you had her first yeah um not a really good car really good car to look at how to get rid of it oh yeah that's uh the ray j song right i didn't even realize that i was just making an innuendo right but there you go full circle you wouldn't want to take second place to reggie bush too that guy is built like a brick house you know he was smashing that right whatever he damage he did to that he probably was like a car accident maybe all that fake ass came after

31:44him you get hit by that dude i read she used to wake up before him and uh get hot towels ready and put his toothpaste on his toothbrush smart yeah treat him like a king hey he probably just smashed it she's probably all day just delirious just from all the orgasms just walking around bumping into walls and there's a picture of him and her by the pool and you look at him and you go that guy must be just smashing that he's a super athlete i mean that guy is built like a superhero all of them that's all they really date yeah right for the most part yeah except kanye yeah she needs to settle down catching behind a basketball player too right right that's what player do the dude who was on the show all the time that guy was on the show all the time yeah crazy living i can't even see living your life like out there in public just every bit of your business oh that would be a

32:41nightmare to me well it's also not interesting but yet edited so well that you you just go slack jaw and you just watch it's just they switch from one scene to another quick enough so that you keep watching it and when it's over nothing happened nothing and you're like what the did i do with my hour you gave it to them and they advertised like 18 products that they got paid for and they made a ass load of money when you find out how much that family is made you just go wait wait wait what what it's it's amazing yeah can't can't hate can't hate you shouldn't you should make fun make fun all day yeah make fun all day please that's that's our god-given right yes when you get that much money yes if i get that much money yes i can't even get mad no matter how much fun you make of me no matter what i do i could be a saint you still can make fun of me cuz i got that much money

33:33nobody that's just the way it goes yeah and you're i mean you want to talk about someone out there those people are out there they got everything out there yeah they're living like performance art they're like living in a giant glass house on a pedestal in the middle of the city that's where all that comes from though is like you know the fake asses and all that it's you got to keep the spectacle alive almost you know it means yeah if it's not a spectacle it's not interesting like you have to keep changing things if it's not an absolute spectacle to the vision your brain will catch on to the my favorite word yeah i love that word too it's my favorite word it's a great word yeah it's a good way it really is like a great first of all it's a word that you can get away with no matter what it's not a word that you you know eventually you won't be able to use anymore

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34:24no is just going to be around forever and it's just it is perfect for like nonsense yeah i've been my english friends for years were saying oh man that was that's the thing that's you know it's only recently catch none over here yeah really in the last like you know 10 years i'm talking about since the 80s i've been hearing i'm trying to figure out when i started using it i started using in regards to martial arts like fake martial arts i use it in all kinds of you can use it light-heartedly you can use it seriously yeah it works due to everything it's as versatile as just plain old yeah yeah steve maxwell that's where i got it from i started using with steve maxwell he was describing some fake martial arts talking about because you know steve's a black belt in jiu jitsu and he was like yeah that's a lot of and i was like oh i like that word it's a great word

35:11that's a word i'm gonna keep using i just looked it up to see if there's a good definition and it says it's also a definition for another word for a brothel a holy dude you just like open my brain in a new way of course that's like duh of course they've called it are you going to the yeah like a brewery a oh that's too good that's hilarious that never would have dawned on me had you not just brought vulgar slang uncountable sexual intercourse what yes that which is up that which is up is that what just up it is a that is hilarious a i had only used it in its verb form yeah it's actually a noun yeah there is a a a place a place where you can go get your that's brand new that's like literally brand new the translation in the french i guess is what it says oh french they figured out a lot of have you ever been to paris oh i love paris did you ever go to that place

36:27underneath that has all the skeletons no i have not been to the catacombs friends of mine have gone though yeah i want to go man i want to go and see that yeah you can get tours and all kinds of like what was that the people that died in the plague is that what it is i think so and they just buried them yeah they you know the the church like put them all in the catacombs do you know what one time paris had a wolf problem and people were getting killed by wolves in recent history fourteen hundreds oh okay look at that wow look at those pictures all those skulls yeah there's a crazy story about i haven't been to a place that rem whenever i see pictures of this it reminds me there's a place in i want to say what country's prague the czech republic i think it's it's called kutna aura k-u-t-n-a-h-o-r-a it's like a church that's awesome like thousands of people's skeletons man

37:19it's crazy yeah is that place is bananas man did you go to that too oh no i've been there i haven't been to the catacombs i'm saying whenever i see pictures of the catacombs but this place is like an entire church decorated and then they have like little dens of like places like altars it's like thousands and thousands those are like vertebrae there's a spine oh no there's another one where it's like chandeliers whoa it's crazy that is bananas and it's you know you can just go there and i think you pay like a couple or whatever euros and you can walk in there i got tons of flicks in there it's weird when you go to those places and you realize these places are fat like i was in italy and there was a church that i went to and there was this glass floor the church was over a thousand years old and there's a glass floor that you walk on below the glass floor is the old church that the

38:11thousand-year-old church was built on they have no idea how old the old church is that's crazy yeah which church was this it's in ravello it's at the top of like there's uh a bunch of cute little shops and little uh hotels and up so make sure i check it out a small church there yeah it's the the church that you could visit is more than a thousand years old i put a picture on my instagram of this crazy picture of what they thought a whale looked like it was uh a story of uh you know who was the dude who got eaten by the whale in the bible jonah jonah joan in the whale and it's it's like in a mosaic on the wall but it's like what they thought a whale was it's like you know before they had photos some dude would like draw you a picture of some he saw like this is what it looks like my friend and then you know some other dude who never saw a whale would make a mosaic of this

39:04and and put it on the wall it's just so weird we went to uh the place that got up by the volcano too um pompeii pompeii yeah sounds fascinating too it's crazy people just instantly 20 feet of ash just covered in ash just can't even imagine yeah just one minute nothing and then next minute a little earthquake and while you're there you can see the volcano it's right there it's still active yeah i don't know i mean i don't think it's had a real issue in a long time did see if you find that instagram picture of uh jonah and the whale that's scary it's from july volcanoes and hawaii everything going on there yeah that's nutty man just scary getting like i read a story like somebody didn't touch the lava they just got within like a couple inches of it and like burnt themselves like melted their skin like off oh yeah yeah not even getting like actually hit by it

40:00you get hit by it your shit's dissolving oh you can cook on it you could slap a steak on that it would dissolve no it wouldn't it wouldn't it's not the best conductor of heat you know you just slap a stake on that sear it flip it they take one second there was a uh some crazy chef did this where they took molten iron and they poured it down this chute and as it was going down the chute they slapped steaks on it it was like they were cooking on this hot molten iron that's crazy yeah people get bored i wonder if it tasted anything probably tastes like yeah probably ruined a good steak like molten whatever the yeah like molten dirt did you see the video of uh the lava consuming that mustang did you see this video that was just dissolved if you got payments and you just damn man this car is killing me these payments are killing me just parked that without lava's coming in hawaii

41:01yeah watch it get melted set up a camera can't imagine there's a lot of mustangs over there either that probably is a lot of american cars over there they they buy a lot of toyotas because they don't break and they're small yeah but it's also like you don't do you know you know everything has to get flown over there so you don't want anything to break super expensive yeah everything food stuff is more expensive there than like the only other place that was comparable to me was perth really well because everybody's so it's like everything same difference it's the furthest like city like isolated by itself in australia yeah and a lot i think maybe in the world like away from any other major city that makes sense right because australia is as big as the united states yeah and it's really the only major city on the west coast that you hit yeah how big is it how big is perth it's like

41:52i don't know how many people but it's like a city you know do you perform there a lot not a lot it's been probably almost 10 years since i've been australia i love australia but i do not love that flight baby it's tough that's a rough flight it takes a minute they'll get over that yeah you land and you're like where am i for a couple days there it is that's the thought like what the is that man it's like a fish with a lion head like look that's what they thought joan and the whale looked like that's hilarious a thousand years ago strange right like dude was trying to make a run for it yeah away from this that dude kind of looks like me that's a little disturbing she's like let me get out of here bald headed dude with a beard trying to get away from this lion fish with wings thing that's but that's what they thought a whale was craziness how you know you might just imagine what

42:48it was like living a thousand years ago when there was no pictures yeah was that the glass floor yeah that's my feet right there so you're in this church the church is a thousand years old and that go back to that last one jamie that one that's that's the glass floor and then you look down and they have this entirely different church underneath it that's way older they don't know how old it is been there forever could be several thousand years old the church is gorgeous though there's a lot of those churches and have you've been to the vatican right yeah that's the mind of all mindfulness yeah that's crazy like st peter's basilica when you're walking around that place and you're just like what like who how how did people do this it's man it's unholy unbelievable the whole vatican no no power saws nothing no no cranes everything was like ladders and and the paintings and the art is just

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43:44insane stunning stunning billions of dollars worth of art and the whole area the whole vatican is essentially its own country yeah so they can keep those kid over there and they never have to export them you know that's that's yeah yeah that's the darkest no no argument nobody can man they'll try people get mad and look i get it i was a catholic for a little bit that's a dark dark institution there is no denying it i mean they just they've just busted another group of priests in in pennsylvania molested more than a thousand kids moving them around not charging them organized religion in general is the biggest mind control that's ever existed you know trying to control popular populations and what's the best way and make you believe a certain thing you know i mean there but there's there's better ones there's some that you go oh for sure you know sure what do the

44:42baptists have done what have they done so terrible oh there's no baptist scandals like that large scale scandals even the mormons like they've had a few like dudes who wanted more than one bride they got greedy more than a few they have there's a whole like part of their thing that that's how they still live but and there's some sex sex s-e-c-t's that uh branched off and got real real freaky on the scale that the catholic church has done things and it's unprecedented unprecedented completely yeah because they they actively shield these people from prosecution yeah and they keep it all right i mean aren't people actually getting like like i've heard some things like they're going after like cardinals and like like criminally well that is why the president stepped down yeah the last pope had to step down because they wanted to prosecute him for crimes

45:32against humanity oh yeah because he was one of the dudes who orchestrated a lot of that exactly the guy right before them he moved a guy who went on to molest a hundred deaf children yeah i remember reading stuff about that it's dark man it's star and it's one of those things where people you know it's been a part of their family it's been a part of their family's family it's been a part of their history they go to church they pay their respects everything's okay they don't want to hear it people don't want to hear it but it's over the evidence is just so overwhelming there's so much so much meaningful that's intense that's the point i mean i think right you know i just think again people like you're saying you get i was raised catholic i just by the time i was like i they did this thing called confirmation mm-hmm which is sort of like this a similar thing to what this

46:22the time that you're becoming a man you're making choices an adult because it wasn't just men but yeah um by the time i did that and realized like okay okay this is there's not a lot of you know there's a little too much magic going on for me you know i mean like going on with this like i like just factual knowledgeable things you know like you know if these people really existed you know and what were they really like i'm not buying into the fact that anybody on this earth didn't take a like i took a yeah i mean we all take the same it'd be nice if someone came up with a good religion a real solid locked down one i mean there's there is one we i mean we all just would have to agree on it how about just the the golden rule that you know i mean that could basically be a religion in itself the church of universal law you know do unto others as you would have them do under you

47:13and you could hold corporations to that you could be like all right we start what's what's more powerful than 10 million people on a facebook page that are watching these corporations in a minute they say hey you're not giving back to the community or taking care of the people that are taking care of you that's easily done but it takes work it's a good point it's easily done if everybody in the world just really treated the next person like they wanted to be treated themselves there you go and did it as a law right and then we we help people accountable to that yeah you are not responding to the universal law the universal golden golden rule you know it sounds super simple but i mean it took a lot of work but it's the principle is simple right and all the other stuff like all other forms of commerce and everything else would still fall under that just like you could do whatever you want

48:01as long as you're treating people kindly exactly like ideally commerce and capitalism all that stuff should be real simple like you have a great cd you want to sell it you want 20 bucks for it somebody gives you 20 bucks they're happy you're happy that should be commerce right yeah it should be you sell something people buy it everybody's good but then you get a little greedy you know if we can figure out a way to go into this market and keep other people from selling this or selling that or we got to stop people from growing this because if they grow this and sell that you're not doing what's best for you you're not doing what you would want them to do to you exactly so it's you're breaking the law violation of the golden rule if you know that's i've thought about it obviously before like hey man what would be you know and i'm like yeah that'd be a really cool thing to do you know

48:50that would be the way you know somebody with enough charisma you know could pull it off you know and get people to get behind it that's really all it would take is people getting behind it yeah but the problem is there's so many people that just we're seeing this with politics right like i'm i'm fascinated by these kavanaugh hearings like i watched little clips of it before i just have to tune out and talk away talk about i mean i don't know what that dude did or what he didn't do but i think what's happening is more than that what's happening is first of all he's involved with uh he was a big part of the patriot act he was you know he's involved in some some issues that a lot of people are very concerned with in terms of like how his position his stance on privacy and on rights and absolutely yeah there's more to it than just did you with someone in high school did you

49:43sexually assault someone did you do that when you're 18 did you do you remember like there's more to it than that there's there's like they don't want that guy in there and then you're seeing all the people that want to pretend that he's the best guy ever and all the people it's crazy man it's fascinating it's really fascinating it's fascinating to watch because it's essentially like a a less like the the clarence thomas hearings from was it like the 1980s i believe clarence thomas i feel like that was late 80s early 90s yeah somewhere around there clarence thomas that was like with anita hill where he had sexually harassed her they were working together and she came in pubic hairs and whatever coke or something do you know that he's now the longest-running um member of the supreme court he's he's now been in the supreme court longer i think i've read that check make sure that's

50:36true isn't ruth great against bader 26 years as of october 4th it will be it will be yeah crazy crazy yeah so it didn't work anita's hell's out there then with the memory of pubic hairs on coke you know and a movie now an hbo movie not too long ago oh yeah did you watch it i saw it it was it was was it okay it was a pretty good movie it was just you know we lived through it so it's like it's like whenever i see movies about like the oj trial or something i'm like no i saw them we saw it live right for like 700 days i'm always fascinated by those movies because of creative license like if you do a movie on richard nixon right would you sure he said that or even crazier you do a movie on lincoln you don't know what the he said you can't be like possibly unless he wrote it down yeah you're having him say a bunch of day to day talking to his wife and kids you don't know what the he says

51:31he's just making this up this is weird that we're allowed to do that you're allowed to just put some words in george washington's mouth like you don't know what the george washington said you know have you seen this movie coming out yeah christian bailey's dick cheney dude it looks amazing steve carroll's donald rumsfeld christian bale is a bad his acting as dick cheney is off the charts i mean he does the voice he got fat for it everything that's him whoa dude there's the video of first of all him and um sam rockwell is george bush he's amazing too sam rockwell is one of the most under appreciated what's the name of this movie vice verse it's amazing dude sam rockwell nails it as joy here play the trailer will they pull us son of a if you folks who are listening to this on youtube we can't play this for you but i mean that's weird they wouldn't want you to like play their trailer

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52:39well they want everybody to go to their trailer true oh yeah it's streams that yeah yeah you're right it's just so good he just does an amazing job of the voice the mannerisms and so does sam rockwell yeah well know they're both incredible actors sam ross do you ever see sam rockwell in that movie moon is it the moon or moon i'm not sure it's a movie where he is the only person in the movie the entire movie is him i don't want to spoil alert it but it has to do with cloning and it's him on the moon like him him like or him in space it's amazing it's an amazing movie i love where he was uh chuck barris yes that was an amazing movie man dude he's a beast this guy is a incredible actor and he just doesn't get enough credit i met he's i think he might be married to her now but he was or maybe they're still dating but he was dating leslie bibb when uh i did a movie with her and um

53:47i got a chance to meet him and i was a little bit starstruck i'm a big giant fan of that guy but he's one of those guys that i feel like i want to say like dude you're amazing like i don't know if anybody's telling you because you're amazing because there's like you know you hear about the great actors you hear daniel day lewis you hear gary oldman you know you hear christian bale you hear the the great actors faye dunaway sigourney weaver you don't hear about sam rockwell why not jamie why not god damn it maybe you will after this movie maybe he looks like i feel like he has never been nominated for anything um probably was probably was for moon he was nominated oh a few things that one that just came out last year the three billboards oh yeah yeah that's what i was thinking i just remember hearing about him he was getting you know he's just one of them dudes too like

54:39when you're that good of an actor you blend into these movies so good it's it's not yeah it's not sam walkwell right you know what i mean like you yeah that's almost a compliment to the dude now should he be more of the leading guy and doing those big roles yeah i agree he's an amazing actor but he's gotten he's done some really big things man he's just he's one of them dudes it just blends too good you know who's another one like that viggo mortensen yes dude like everything he's in you just lose it and he's in it like he's that guy yeah yeah the the the one where he was the eastern promises yeah that was a good one the russian mob movie yeah yes and then what the year of violence that he did that was a good one so it was a good one the road freaked me out i had turned it off when he was teaching his son how to shoot himself in the mouth i was like done

55:23we're good i don't need to watch this it's crazy that's what i heard yeah i heard the books too crazy dark man like that's that's one of the things like it's like it's a taste that stays with you a little too long you want it to go away yeah there's a few of those movies that are just so depressing when you leave you're like what did i do like i don't want to be depressed i know that it was good i know you nailed it i know you you dragged my emotions myself once on tour i it was like back when you got when every when your tower records and those things were still around like on tuesdays the movies and the records would all come out so we were on tour we would stop and buy a bunch of for the bus buy this i bought a bunch of movies and i threw on magnolia had just come out i watched that and i was like oh wow that was up and then without looking i just grabbed the next movie and put it

56:13in and it was titus andronicus and i don't know if you're aware of like hip to this like one of the darkest shakespeare plays ever about this i mean ghosts if you ain't seen it when you got the wherewithal to sit through some real darkness anthony hopkins is insane in this movie as tight as andronicus it's dark so i watched these two movies back to back and for two weeks joe i can't shake the like just pressing like oh my god there's no happy endings anywhere in the world from then on i'll only watch comedies and like pixar movies and old warner brothers cartoons out there on the road man dinner why people are hanging in front of them um i do do you want to know you're never going to watch this right he's about to cut them up and make dinner out of them and serve them to his own into their families like it's it's dark man it's really dark it's one of the dark it

57:10is the darkest shake spirit like thing i've ever read or seen okay that's enough and that was right after magnolia i watched that man a double whammy double weight dude oh it was horrible remember that movie 21 grams yeah that movie swore me off at depressing movies after that movie was over i left the theater i'm like why did i do that to myself yeah i was in such a good mood yeah who wants who wants to leave a place with that feeling don't doesn't life give you that enough i was all happy i was all happy feeling good i walked into that movie and i left going what in the actual what am i doing here as dj khaled would say you played yourself played myself yeah other people said it before him but he's like known for it yeah it's funny how that happens right or dude just says something just right and then everybody just connects it to him he had a string of them he had a bunch

58:05of his little you know in a meeting uh you know he's got the new deal alerts he's just he's a he's a bastion of these little sayings that just people catch on to he's got a lot of good things going for him he's unthreatening looking because he's kind of a big chubby guy people like him because of that you know there's a lot of good things going obviously like positive energy yeah i mean he's just a lot of energy likes shiny flashy that a lot of other people like yeah yeah and he can afford it yeah that's nice hashtag balling yeah gotta do it yeah i guess so that's part of that lifestyle that's a crazy lifestyle kanye's a part of that lifestyle too right but in a weird way he's a weird part of that lifestyle he's never been up that jewelry you've seen they're not really big i mean like but he's big on design and you know ferraris and lamborghinis and beautiful houses and like

58:57that aware of like what he i know yeah design yeah i know it's i know just from what i know of him that he longs to be ralph lauren like that's really his you know probably like if you said who is your biggest influence or who would you want to be ralph lauren yeah that's kind of hilarious but he just loves design right loves clothes i guess yeah i mean why not somebody's gotta i mean he you know a lot of that stuff he was doing was looking like homeless people's clothing you know too it's like derelict right out of zoolander did you see that one video picture that jamie showed me he was walking around with slides easy slides on but they were like four sizes too small it didn't make any sense his like heels hanging off the back of him like that's the way he designed him exactly that's like he's probably trying to push a new thing yeah he's like here tiny yeezy slides too small for your

59:50feet two small yeezy slides there you go yeah that's the new look like you know if you're crazy you might think things like that it's it's crazy to me because there's an era of his career that i look at and i'm like whoa man there's a lot of genius he was doing musically a lot of records he was doing and then i don't know what it is but to me to me now and i don't say this really in a judgmental way but he's a professional troll now just like that's the most successful people in the in the entertainment business now if you're not an amazing actor or a super amazing you know yeah whatever is like just keeping people trolling remember he literally dropped a song like at some point like eight months ago where that was like poopity scoop scoopity poopity boop poopity scoopity whoop yeah i swear and that was the song it lasted that long yeah jamie came and played for

60:39me where he told me the lyrics and i told him shut the up no but it's like it's again it's like get away from me jamie you stop putting this evil in my head it's the spectacle like i mean i mean i made this album here that's music yeah you know i mean this is music like a lot of people don't give a anymore well you're not that guy you've never been a i need publicity guy well i never here's what it is here's what that is it's like people like to speculate about what i do or my career you know i mean i've written a few songs in this life that i could go somewhere and sit down and just sit on a stump and eat food for the rest of my life and never worry you know i mean i can feed my family and all that off of a few songs i make music because i love making music you know and of course you want people to listen you want the more people you know you want people you want

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61:24you're not saying i don't want fame or all that but i don't i'm not i'm not again one of the first things the first time i ever came on your podcast was like i like going to ralph's and sitting at the olive bar and getting my olives yeah while my song's playing on the radio and the guy standing right next to me has no idea i don't mind that at all that doesn't bother me i love it yeah you're not a need attention kind of a guy and some people are and that's sort of part of their business like this whole kanye donald trump thing i just i wonder if that's trolling but i also wonder if what we were talking about earlier about car accidents and brain damage i wonder if that's a little bit of everything but also the reason i i i say it's trolling is because there's likes and stuff when you get to kardashian kanye west levels of and i'm sure you know this just you have

62:16four million instagram followers i didn't start instagram until you told me to i know that but what i'm saying is like you could monetize that really easily those four million people you're not that you're not selling that out these people they are definitely monetizing that when kim kardashian gets on there she doesn't give you a commercial but she'll tell you oh i'm just using this new cream on my you know i mean here somebody paid her 100 50 grand for that post you know it's like that's that's so the more eyes the better that's really what they're monetizing it's like i can if i had 10 million people on my instagram i could sell posts the real problem with that is people don't believe them you know like you but their eyes are still if i if i say i like something it's because i like it like if it and this is people accuse me of having ads i've never had a single ad

63:08on my instagram if i tell people about a product and people like what are you doing you getting paid for this like nope nope no i just like it yeah sharing something i thought you might think is cool this is a cool i've done it a few times but i usually say hey i'm not getting paid i'm just telling you yeah i do now no because it is not i like this yeah you know what i mean plus i ain't got enough instagram followers to get back that's all you need jamie was saying you need seventy thousand that's the thing i don't know first of all i don't i don't you know i don't yeah i know you don't give a but if you did if you were a chick with a fake butt you might be able to get a little i might have four million followers if i was a chick with a big black yeah you might right you might have 20. look at this kim kardashian's got 118 million followers it's just wow good googly moogly okay

63:54and let's say what do they say if you're if you're actually good at social media maybe 10 of your audience engages you so that's still 10 million people that will engage with her that's a lot of people son i believe i threw that number out there just kind of that sounds about right yeah a lot of goddamn people whoo yeah it's a weird business man that's famous now like when we were young famous was you know if you're on tv or the radio you know or you know movies did if you did something in life wrote a book yeah wrote a play or a movie you know what i mean you invented the plane you know i mean that's what got you famous now you just gotta keep eyes on you doing up i was thinking about that today while i was watching gladiator because uh when i was watching that movie i was thinking the in the roman times there was no accountability like for emperors you could do all kinds of up

64:50and no one could do anything about it they either killed you eventually or you got away with it for a long period of time but today uh you know like there's so much there's so much accountability people find out what awful things you've done they find out you've stolen money or had people killed or you know took over this or dominated that like to be a like to be a dictator like a kim jong-un like someone someone along those lines today you have to keep those people locked up like and he's barely keeping that together they they barely haven't you it amazes me how they can like you know like there's not a whole scene there of people with the internet like sneaking it in and you know what they did everybody rats and everybody else there they have like a whole system of rat non people they have a culture of rats yeah and they believe their leader is a god or something of that nature

65:45they just don't want to die man they're scared and they're hungry and they don't have any power and they don't have any energy because they're eating just rice and starving to death when they catch those dudes that sneak across the border you know that make a run for it and when they get them and bring them to hospitals and patch them up and they find all these crazy parasites in them massive malnutrition and these are soldiers like north korean soldiers they're just all up and this but that's a window into time like if you went back into the roman days this that's how everybody was rocking it they were all dominating their people and using iron fist and keep you know keep these generals well fed and keep the army well fed and use it to dominate the civilians and i mean i know gladiator is just a movie it's just fake and you know fun but still you got to wonder like that

66:37how close was that to life back then and how bad did it smell oh how bad do you i mean like tubes of there used to be a show on hbo called rome like where they had like and they had this one scene i remember it like where they were all in like a public toilet a shittery shittery sure shittery and they handed them like what at the time was i guess the toilet paper which was like you know calfskin rags or something and they like wipe their ass and they walk out and throw it in a pile it's like how could that have smelled if that's accurate if that's accurate you know what i mean well that looks pretty accurate yeah there it is roman public toilets oh and they would go into like a tube and that tube would go right down the street yeah like imagine how the whole city smells like well that's one of the reasons why all those people got sick like when a disease would spread through the city i

67:29mean there was no sanitation it was terrible but i mean how did they they didn't have like flushable things right nothing flushed i mean they had they had developed aqueducts so they just had a system of flowing water but it wasn't pressurized or anything so i just had to pick it up wash it out one of the things that was cool about pompeii was they had a sauna they had figured out how to boil water and then they had the water would go through the floor and the walls they had like like double spaced walls so they had one outside wall and an inside wall and the heat would go through and it would go like through the set and so you could go into this sauna and you'd just like a regular sauna here and be hot as in there yeah there is pompeii sauna that's it like they figured out how to make things pretty cool for what they had but living back there but meanwhile

68:21tell me people aren't gonna think like that a thousand years from now about us those dummies into a ceramic bowl and then hitting the water to flush it away idiots i can't imagine what it's going to be like dude we installed these toilets here that uh shoot hot water up your butt you know those up or just cleaning you go right in the hole wow it shoots right in that hole you got to be careful it feels like you have to take a because it gets up in there and you're like oh i have to again but no it's just the water is literally getting through the door but it cleans your butthole so nice and after you have one of those you're like why would i ever use a regular toilet yeah i remember the first time i experienced one of those was like in the 90s in japan yes japan yeah that's why i experienced it too yeah yeah but me for me it was just a few years ago but jamie says he holds his

69:08is that correct preferred versus my home toilet yeah like why would why at home if you like make sure i have to be like i could keep this one in the at bay i mean honestly honestly i mean like in europe a bidet is a normal thing in a hotel room it's not here as much it's not as good though i have a bidet in my house and never used it once it's a magazine rack i throw magazines there watch your hands it's just yeah it's just weird it's weird it just doesn't work yeah it's it's and i think it's more for women like now yeah you know the good day like it's a cooter cleanser yeah kind of but um here's here's something funny is like i i just did this tour europe and we started noticing like and i'm not going to name countries like you know because i have fans and all them i don't want them to get upset but we notice there's a different of some countries you can you get washcloths in your

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69:59bathroom in some countries you don't and me and my band you know came to the conclusion that from now on whenever we come to these countries where you don't get to wash cloths in your hotel room we're not going to shake hands with people why don't you have washcloths in the bathroom i don't get it yeah what are you washing your hands with bro no you could wash your hands like this what are you washing your arse with man you're shoving your hand crack up there what are you doing what are you doing what are you doing i don't mind if you wash your face with your hands or your hands but i'm not if i'm i can't find a washcloth in your city it's a little strange this summer they have garden hoses attached to the toilet they don't around with all that hot spicy food they know it's gonna come out messy so they give you a goddamn garden hose to clean your where is this

70:44thailand in thailand everywhere even the airport went to the toilet at the airport right next to the the box was this goddamn garden hose i mean like one you would wash the car with like the pistol grip one yeah like and just whoa let's get that back there and whoa whoa there it is right there garden hose bum gun bomb gun they call it bomb gun toilet hose in thailand keep yourself clean with a squirt of water yeah a squirt that that that could move a boat across a dock first things first yeah wow the direction our conversation's taken today test the water pressure before you use it the british called the toilet hose the bum gun for a good reason the nozzle the end of the hose is shaped a bit like a gun with a trigger that you press to release the water yeah wow yeah they don't around in time i've been in thailand obviously it's beautiful there people are so nice it's

71:37one of the like friendliest places i've ever been in my life like universally friendly and everybody looks at you and they all do this they make their hands like a lotus flower that's what they do they don't shake hands a lot they just touch their hands together and give you like a little is there is bow is there a washcloth they just it's the tire their hands are tired from holding on to that hose squeezing that bum gun something but uh the food there is amazing if you like thai food man you learn like from like the way they cook it in the motherland you know with all those fresh ingredients i love thai food are you a spicy guy do you like spicy oh i've been sans being in thailand uh this spot i was in a place in melbourne australia we talked about earlier the hottest thai food i ever had in my life like so hot you're sweating and you can't stop eating it

72:33because the minute you stop eating it you're gonna catch fire have you ever been to exotic tie over on ventura in woodland hills i feel like i have oh super legit spontaneous a bunch of thai people running super nice people food is jamming there's a spot right here close not far from our in the general area uh jasmine thai oh yeah yeah yeah there's a bunch of good times high restaurants in l.a even to uh what's that place on sunset that's open real late oh right there next uh toy toy is great too man that's a that's a great late night spot like legit thai food you get it at two o'clock in the morning you know after the comedy store the thai iced teas are amazing that shit's terrible for your diabetes though that's like 180 grams of sugar but it's so delicious so delicious but honestly you know that's like i used to drink so much coke that's that's another when we talk about

73:30weight that's the first thing i got rid of man was drinking coca-cola the weight falls off about 20 pounds of the 30 in that crate 35 now just falls off yeah yeah you realize like what was i doing was i doing to myself that and just a little bit of cardio and i was like every other day i was like whoa crazy i just lost like uh like i said 35 now because i dropped five pounds out on the road that i didn't even realize not even work trying wow just continuing to be healthy that and i think that food in europe is a lot cleaner just in general yep yep well they don't have a lot of our first of all their wheat is like what you would call heirloom wheat yeah they don't have a lot of the complex glutens in our wheat that make it a little bit more difficult to process um this is all a real thing like people think there's some sort of uh like that people are exaggerating the

74:20effects of gluten and gluten intolerance the issue is that at one point in time bread was different it was just wheat was different but it was a lower yield so say like if you had a an acre and you were planting wheat on it you would get way less wheat out of that acre than you would with the newer wheat and the newer wheat is just more complex glutens in it and you get a higher yield and so that's what they're looking for and but when you eat it it's just hard to digest and it's just when i was in italy man everybody's skinny okay they're all eating bread they're all eating pasta they're all eating pizza they're all skinny at the most these dudes who don't work out at the most get like a little punch the most they're drinking wine every night they got a little punch they also walk a lot more than us they also ride bikes a lot more than us like though all those things spent a lot

75:08of time in holland this last trip and i couldn't find a fat person they're just biking everywhere biking everywhere and they're eating cheese and bread all day yeah it's like literally every meal like cheese and bread with your meal but they must be pissed that weed's legal everywhere else because people used to go to holland specifically friends that own shops over there and they're like yeah there's there's a lot of what's going on right now is there's um if i understood what he was telling me right um canada is investing tons of money with the government over there to like corporate to like start growing corporate we like and they're going to phase out the locals and take it over oh like they're going to phase out the coffee shop because they're weed isn't legal in holland right it's decriminalized if you own a weed shop you can only have let's say

75:56500 grams of time in the shop legally all right if you have a good shop you're moving that you know in a afternoon right so and getting bringing weed to your shop is illegal like it's like it's a smuggling operation it has to be in there and once it's in there it's okay yeah once it's in there you can sell it but getting it to your spot it's illegal to move that much weed it's up like these guys i know a couple guys own a couple coffee shops and they're just like it's man you know getting it's like a constant it's like half a criminal operation they're running and it used to be that you get mushrooms you used to be able to get mushrooms you should be able to get like a bunch of and now you can't get like hard like narcotics like coke or anything like that but anything natural like mushrooms you could get acid when i was first in there i don't know if that was legal

76:46because i was really young i just well holland is just a wild ass place i mean that is the spot where like some of the best kickboxing ever came from it's weird one little spot in europe and they created ramone deckers rob cayman ernesto who's like some of the greatest kickboxers of all time out of this one james everywhere everywhere you go you see them like a gym it's amazing yeah i mean it's just amazing that this one place became a hotbed for a real source of their pride sports pride football and kickboxing are probably the top two things i mean they literally have created some of the all-time greatest kickboxers and it's not a big country it's really and some of the greatest kickboxing coaches as well but some it's amazing it's really unusual really unusual that that happened there and it's it's hard to describe why like no one really be an interesting

77:43like documentary so yeah figure out the roots of that somebody went to thailand you know somebody brought it back from thailand yep switched it up and put their own little spin on it yeah and a few guys went over to thailand and some ties up too because what they had done is they incorporated a lot of western boxing like ramon decker's in particular was one of the greats and uh what he did was he was a small guy like the same size as the ties which was unusual because a lot of the people from amsterdam were big people it's one of those places where i think the average height for a person in the tombstone is like six feet tall yeah so it's an unusually tall place viking yes going on yeah some viking dna i was watching that show for a while vikings i got deep into that show that show was pretty dark but mrs rogan got tired of seeing people get sorted up

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78:32slashed to pieces she got bored with it it was pretty dark people just getting up with arrows and cut open and it's the whole show they're always going to war but that's what they did they're vikings yeah and they they took a lot of mushrooms pillage i believe is a viking way of life if you could go back in one time to like if you had like a time machine you go back and watch one time in history what what do you think you would go to see hmm you go to see like how people lived uh well being very smell sensitive it wouldn't be that far back i'd probably want to go i'd be no that's not true probably like you know king arthur era yeah i like that kind of thing i was heavy dungeons and dragons maybe go go see if there's anything to any of that dragon you know or the holy grail you know any of that dragon yeah i wonder what that was all based on like why are there so many dragons

79:32in in folklore in chinese folklore and european folklore there's so many unrelated dragons well i mean you know there's people that have you know i watch a lot of ancient aliens so they'll always have an explanation my man with the hair joe suclose i we georgia did a podcast a long time ago i love that guy dude he's amazing he's my favorite dude on that show man he's a good dude i don't necessarily agree with everything they say not everything but that's there's hey i mean there's merit to some of it man there's some stuff so there's a show you watch with your boys at like one o'clock in the morning you get baked and everybody laughs you ever watched the vice version where like uh uh action bronson and all these guys are getting ripped and like talking about the show it's like just complete nonsense but it's if you're high it's fun to watch he came on the podcast i've never seen a

80:24dude smoke more weed in my life he smoked by himself at least six blunts during the podcast wow so hard man i don't think the weed really with him anymore man i can think it takes that much weed he just kept going and i got paranoid just watching him i'm like oh i mean i smoked a little bit with him but i mean i got to keep this ship on the water exactly yeah you got to let me keep my hands on the wheel sir like he just kept going that we took a photo of the ashtray after it was over it was preposterous it was like look at that that's one show like that's he's a crazy guy man fun dude though no he's a good guy i love that that's delicious that show yeah that's a great show he you know with al alchemist is a good friend of mine i've known him since museum so they're good buddies i've met him i've hung out with him a few times he's a really fun guy man it's a unique idea for a show because

81:14you know action bronson used to be a chef yeah yeah so seeing him like interact with food and sheds like he's he really knows about food he really understands food yeah i think he should have a cooking show he actually you know can whip up some mean food yeah right like we like now that bourdain's gone like we need more of those kind of shows that explore food and bourdain's show changed the way i feel about food i used to think of food as just something that tastes really good i didn't think of it as an art form and then i watched his show and you know the reverence that he had for chefs and for the creation of food made me realize like oh this is an art form that i was ignorant of i didn't think of it the right way on all levels not just like the high chef level he brings it to like the home front where it's like even he's local look at him what's he cooking

82:07some sandwich or something oh i was making sandwiches yeah no you're right man like on on street food level he loves tony loved uh street tacos and he would go everywhere and buy street food i mean honestly when you're cooking you feel like that though i know because you just now i see you cooking all the time whenever you're posting that never invite me over to have some of that beautiful i was good i was gonna set it up here i was gonna set a thing up here but they could never figure out how to get ventilation in here we have a grill back there that's never been used it's just sitting back there look at him he's he's taking a steak a little bit it's gonna be nice and pink in the middle and gorgeous he's drinking wine i wonder why see this is how how stoney his show is like they let him wear a shirt that you can't wear so they had to blur out his shirt

82:56that's such a stoney thing okay man you can't wear that shirt oh yo i got it all that's it this is what i'm wearing so do what you got to do exactly so they got to follow him around that blur thing drives me nuts like what is it what could it possibly be so but it's there's there's times when i see beck all right back when he had that loser video the first thing that comes up on the video is him in a mask that's blurred oh right and i and i was like what the why would why would you wear it it was purposely done like i think sometimes maybe it's like yeah it's like what the like what is the mask that's just back being a weirdo yeah but what it makes you go like but what the is that he's a fascinating guy too you know he's a devout scientologist yeah which is his dad did a is an amazing string arranger like an orchestrator and he worked he did a couple like of my albums where i

83:52when i had string arrangements and stuff really yeah yeah i mean he's a legit musician like a really interesting amazing is is next level you don't hear about him that often these days again another i think i think it's the same kind of thing dude it doesn't he's not playing the game right we just i mean you know he makes music he's just an artist when it's time to make music it's time to make music yeah there's still i mean in other words it's for me i'm sorry but it's not it's it's like okay this is a product this record right but it's not a product to me it's like i this is eight years of my life yeah i mean i didn't make it because i was concerned about keeping my otherwise that's why they got the guys they got to put a record out every year those are the guys i'm like whoa how do you that's all that's you know right that takes a lot to put a especially if it's going to be good if

84:40so anybody they can put out a record every year that's good that's next level yeah well louis ck was doing that for a while with stand up yeah yeah that is hard to do george carlin did it every year george carlin did a stand-up special every year and to us to all stand-up comics where we all get together and talk about that everybody kind of agrees it's almost impossible he did it but very few people could do it and i mean not to criticize carlin because carlin did it and pulled it off but most of us feel like that's not enough time like you need more time to let it cook you need more time to add and twist i've never had a record come out like i think the shortest period would be was like two years two and a half years and that's you probably just constantly going at it yeah anytime i wasn't touring or something and we locked in a room somewhere trying to make music now when you record

85:35when you like say if you're going to lay down an album do you have everything completely mapped out before you go into the studio or do you around with it while you're in there well the process for this album in particular was was wild because again when layla was born and the disease we we found out she was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis i actually was planning to not tour any of that anymore but i was gonna write songs i was gonna go to i went to nashville started hanging out with a few song writers out there and wrote some stuff one of the songs that ain't easy which i played years ago on your podcast is on this album um uh so i wrote some songs with people but the intention was it was they were going to be for other people so i recorded them in a very kind of plain jane way not my spin on what they would have been and after a few years like i just

86:28never really pursued it's too much of a sales pitch i had would have you have to go out and like be that schmoozer selling your songs and it just never appealed to me and so after a few years i um just i did an acoustic record and then i started touring that for a while just old songs but re recorded them acoustically and um then uh i after that was done and i realized all right you know i need to keep working what am i gonna do i went back and revisited some of these songs but i realized i have to re-record them that's why i didn't see that they were my songs because i recorded them in a way that i thought other people would want to use them so i went and re-recorded about i don't know five or six of the songs that were already here and then my buddy evidence from dilated peoples got involved with me and we recorded a few of these rap tracks and it started

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87:18kind of coming together and it kind of started coming together in a similar way that the original whitey force things the blues record did that's why i kind of also named it what it is um there was a lot of similarities and i feel like i just pulled everything from every part of the toolbox that i've learned from since i started you know whether it was the iced tea years or the house of pain years or the whitey ford years i just drew on it all and tried to see like i said it was the eight years of life it's not like a a a literal representation of what's happened to me but it's an emotional journey of like all the kind of feelings and that i'm like a lot of struggles and a lot of it's it's it's it's my best record you know but eight years right here so i've never been in a rush that's a big statement that it's your best record it's my best record ever i'm i'm

88:06i'm confident in it is it available everywhere like i told you yes spotify yeah stream the out of it i own my i masters how does that work if you own your master's do you get more stream well if you own your masters you get paid outright like you know you're the label on my own label so the reason the people that complain about not getting paid by streaming are people that are signed to record deals that are getting a small piece of what the master is getting if you own the master you know so streaming is viable for someone who owns the map yeah yeah i mean it's viable period i mean kids i mean that's the way it is it's just the it's the future i mean now but the the people who say it doesn't pay they're in shitty deals yeah i mean because it pays you know i would like it to pay a little better but you know it pays it pays all right who was it i think if you take a million streams it

88:57equals out to around eight thousand dollars that sounds like yeah it just in general like that's the payment from for what that is to a to a label like it would be around a label yeah like a million streams is about the equivalent of about eight grand and uh that doesn't sound like a lot but a million streams is like you know a thousand guys that or people fans of yours that stream your whatever a thousand a hundred times right you know it's not it goes quick or anything like i think drake like streamed a billion streams this first week right you know that's a nice chunk of change man david crosby was tweeting about how bad streaming deals are but that is because he has a bad deal if he doesn't know his master yeah if you know if he's like recording a deal for another record for the record company you know i mean it's all his older songs oh that's yeah then he's probably got

89:42deals on that i mean some of my older stuff i don't get paid on what i feel like i should but it's like the stuff since i've owned my masters which is the last 15 years of my life you know i mean it's fascinating for me on the outside looking at what happens with labels and how they do things it's it's just it's amazing their sort of survival instincts how they figured out how to well labels are signing podcasters now because of streaming streaming like you should be getting checks from this joe i don't i don't allow them to stream me would honestly you could be coming dora spotify i say nope well you'd probably have to be exclusive to one of them is the deal too um well either way what they are is just it's not just streaming your youtube views are streaming that's that's streaming it doesn't have to be with a streaming service right i mean but you you should have a digital company that

90:31is representing you that's collecting all that if you don't yeah no i do not okay just make sure yeah but that's um like that's all streaming it's you know what the youtube thing the most fascinating thing about it is it's only youtube that's the the crazy thing we think about how big the internet is and there's really only one thing like youtube it's a it was a good moment they came and the branding and everything they did i mean i saw like i don't know if it was a documentary because it wasn't full-length but it might have been just like a little like feature like it within a news kind of segment thing about how you know the original videos that were huge on on youtube were like a kid biting another kid and like the original first for the longest time the most played video on youtube was the charlie biting the kid or something you know charlie that's where it all came from

91:15like it almost came from america's home video like funniest home video kind of thing youtube kind of filled in that void for a long time with they were memes before they were memes they were just viral videos you know um that wasn't that long ago that's so crazy it's like a decade ago and then well i mean the necessity of having to change the music business is what changed youtube you know because they caught on like all right tv doesn't play videos anymore right and nobody's buying records so we got to sell you know the whole the whole thing for the longest was like when the bottom had really fallen out for a while of making any money off of actual records was like well you can bootleg my record and you can download my record but you can't download the t-shirt so it became so the lifestyle so the music became background music to the you know everything else it was part of the

92:02lifestyle in the cars and this and all i wanted you to do is really go buy this limited edition t-shirt that i'm selling right now you know right that's what that's the game changed into and it's still that you know i mean that's why the and the trollism and all that because people want eyes on them so the next thing they have the opportunity to sell they can sell yeah that's what's interesting to me about labels is now labels get a piece of everything they do these 360 deals yeah don't that's satan crazy that was unheard of you didn't get pieces not only t-shirts you get pieces they get pieces of live money yeah they get every you know it's like how cool it used to be like i had to pay you i used to be like all right a record label would give me half a million dollars all right and i'd go and make a record with that i'd i'd i could spend whatever i wanted making

92:48the record and whatever the rest money left over was mine that 500 grand was mine i could spend it all making the record or i could spend 50 grand making the record and pocket the rest that was up to me um and then after that my job your job as a label was to sell that record my job was to hit the road and go tour right and i go tour for a few years and at first i'm not even making money to her and you're giving me money to go out there and tour it's called tour support that used to be and that actually gets added onto your bill you didn't get paid no you would get like money for tour but like it wouldn't cover like a bus and a band and all this so that right the label would supplement that with what they called tour support which would also become part of the debt you owed the label right but as you built your live audience your guarantees would go up

93:32sooner or later you could stop taking that money and then your record sales would pay that off hopefully if you were doing well enough and now you got your own stream of revenue with live t-shirts all this other outside that it's yours that's that's the way it was when i came up now it's like that's not a deal they want it all out how'd they sneak that in well it because when napster and dropped the bottom out of the record business and nobody was paying for records labels weren't going to give you a half a million dollars just for your record because nobody was buying records they want to sell your t-shirts too it's not amazing though that they figured out how to stay alive like that just because they always knew that people were going to be needy it always it all boils down to this too and i hope somebody one day like really investigates this and makes some sort of

94:15like documentary about it is like they had so many opportunities to be ahead the movie industry didn't take the same hit they took hits and they deal dealt with piracy but they the music industry had a moment if you remember there was like some kids that got in trouble for downloading ridiculous amounts of music and their parents were being held responsible yeah and the music industry backed off of it because the news wasn't good the movie industry never backed off of that kind of they told you we're going to sue your life off some people did get sued for music but the music industry backed off though they didn't keep their pedal down and keep the foot on the neck like you're going to steal this this costs you got to remember back then if i would have got a half a million dollars i probably would have spent up to two of that on a record 200 000 just on the making

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95:01studio time whoever's got to be involved engineers producers 200 grand off top just that's minimum we would have spent on a record and then it gets you go out and people steal it right you know i mean it's the same you know did you ever download for free um my thing not at first my thing became later like okay this is what this is the wave whatever but if i doubt my philosophy was if i downloaded your and i liked it i would go i'd go buy it me too like if i if i downloaded it it was trashed in vain i looked it as like a taste test that's okay yeah okay maybe if more people adapted that things but again the record industry had plenty of opportunities to jump ahead of it and be it they didn't there was technology out there already that people were dealing with still bringing it to them telling them this wave is coming and the record industry was making so

95:50much money at that time if you look at the amount of money they were making up for the boy bands and the britney spears and it was how much money was in the record business and they let it all go down the drain because they they thought they had all the answers and they thought it had all the money what could they have done to stop it i'd have to go but i have some like books on it technology there were people ready there to help set up things like naster and how to monetize it and control it like there was ways to deal with it there were ways to be part of it instead of like wait till it was too late well the thing about the movie industry too though is that like people want to go to the movies like the experience is not as good apple music saved the music industry like apple at first itunes why didn't the record history like there were people telling them this is coming and i

96:35didn't mean to interrupt you but i don't they could have made itunes first not called itunes but like the record industry itself should have digitized and been ready right it would have been that simple come up with their own version of itunes and they could have invested a lot more money the music industry is booming but artists are losing big because most artists are assigned to record deals with just 12 percent of revenue 12 whoa 43 billion dollars a year was its most profitable year since 2006. listeners are spending more money than ever largely on streaming and live music with consumers spending totaling more than 20 billion dollars last year wow yet artists aren't feeling the increase of that 20 billion music industry entities such as record labels took home 10 billion musicians taking home just 5.1 billion with the majority of the revenue coming from touring

97:29and concert sales it's amazing that's amazing that it's like a parasitic industry it's like you they don't people don't necessarily need them the way they used to need not not that like they used to i was going to just play devil's advocate and say well it used to be that i'm the guy that put up all the if i'm the label yo i'm putting up millions of dollars in advance gambling it on you right now when you win you want to take away my lion's share now you now it's totally different now you can do this on your own yeah yeah i mean you could start an instagram start a youtube start this and you can make beats on your laptop well like channel the rapper right isn't that the guy who does everything everything he's done is his own online sure sure sure yeah you don't believe it what do you mean not exactly oh jamie's got a conspiracy theory not conspiracy but he's got more support

98:15than he would say now he does sure yeah now he does maybe but i mean basically he's become huge all on his own right and you know i mean you look it's like so many viral music hits you know they get they get big online just because kids share it and they like it and then it becomes gigantic like with the music industry the the industry the the labels have nothing to do with that right no they there's labels that are doing their thing out there that actually know what they're doing and marketing-wise and all that there's still a lot of kids that are being made you know famous by label so there's some benefit yeah i mean there's a lot at least a lot of the reasons some of these artists are only seeing 5.1 minutes because they're signed to record deals you know jay-z ain't only saying five you know five percent of what you know he's due because he you know he's been in the

99:00game long enough you know and they started out with their own label they started in the beginning rockefeller records was independent so that's the kind of you know those kind of guys are never gonna lose as long as you know they can still make music that people buy yeah they figure out a way to rope you in early too where like even if your record is successful the second record you it's not like you're going to be able to be independent on the second record they'll you they own you for several down the line right usually i mean it used to be i think the standard was like eight eight albums but it's it's that but that's it that's it's it's it's misleading because it depends on your from too there's also like you know if your first record is very successful and you have a lawyer that has any wherewithal you're renegotiating before you do the second record you know i mean

99:42these are things you learn but like if you're struggling that that eight record thing too also if you study the record business it goes back to like when actually artists used to be built that like over nobody expected the first album to do anything like when they would sign bands like in the 60s like you know they had a plan like by album three and four here's where we'll be you know they used to build artists they used to be a r they actually used to nurture and take care of a band for a long time and watch them grow you know that's the way it used to be until like you know whatever it was maybe the 80s it changed i had a record deal for my comedy album in 1999 i had a record deal with warner brothers it was like a real record deal like uh i met with them they they promoted it the the whole deal was like i went through the whole record industry business yeah there was always a

100:32comedian or two on labels yeah they don't have that anymore i mean because comedy albums do it yourself well it's not just that you definitely can do it yourself but comedy albums just aren't that popular anymore for some strange reason well because it's a it's it's a piss-poor woman it's also the art form you want to watch it exactly i was about to say it's so it's so visual that now comedy albums were big when everybody didn't have a tv screen or everything it's like you could listen and imagine what he was doing or something some guys translate super well like mitch hedberg translates amazing to cd to to just audio only because his he basically just stands there and tells great jokes like he doesn't have like there's no it's fun to watch him more fun to watch him but once you know what he looks like and how he does it it's like kind of cool to listen to it on the albums

101:23i was just talking about stephen wright the other day too like stephen wright was a genius he was amazing yeah but that that style is hard to do see what what mitch hedberg basically did was do that stephen wright style but like a more stony drug style yeah but but the drugs allowed him to come up with way more of those things edberg could just go on for days he had so much material man that guy wrote constantly he was always writing until the end in the end um you know the drugs got to him obviously they killed him but um he was uh his that's a that's a non-sequitur style that's the hardest style of comedy you say one thing and then you say something totally unrelated to the next joke and the next joke's totally unrelated no no sequencing or no man and you you know it's all segways i'm sorry no sequence yeah that's enough but sequencing two it's like they don't

102:21they don't fit in together in any way shape or form they're just total non-sequiturs just here's a funny thing i thought of here's another funny thing i thought of you know and it's but his style was so unique just the way he delivered things was so unique he was funny just talking about nothing like talking about anything one of my favorite jokes of his he goes uh he goes somebody asked me if i want a frozen banana i said no but i want a regular banana later so yes that's just such a silly joke but it's such a great joke that's a stoner joke oh man all day he's got like one of the best his albums are the some of the best stoner material of all time maybe the best he's gonna make me go listen to some oh he's incredible man oh i'm familiar i just haven't listened to it or heard any of it i'll throw him on every now and again when i'm on my way to the airport

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103:14i used to listen to on sirius all the time the comedy channel the the dirtier darker one you know the more grown up one and he'd pop on there every once in a while yeah yeah that yeah i haven't had serious in forever do you still used to listen to that no because i just yeah i just i don't really honestly my favorite thing in the car is silence really yeah like by myself like i i get a lot of thinking done driving like it's or like if i'm ever really like stumped while i'm working on a song like because i don't write things down or anything like just i'll get in the car and drive and then somehow it'll work itself out i can really just relax behind the wheel yeah i know what you mean unless i'm in like the middle of like up traffic i mean like at night i can get in the car i could drive on an open road and it'll just it really relaxes me i have a car that i take to

104:05the comedy store all the time and it's a 1993 porsche doesn't have any radio no radio it's manual transmission no power steering no air conditioning it's just it's just an old car and everything like when when you drive it you feel every bump and it's like you shift it but because of all that i have to think and it makes it fires my brain up because i'm doing all these different things hitting the clutch shifting the gears you know managing this heavy steering wheel and all that jazz and when i get to the store my brain is like charged up because of it it's like i've been doing a bunch of things it's like exercising your brain yeah i'm not like in the back seat sleeping you know waiting to get to the show and then i wake myself up i love to drive do you still get that crazy audi no not right now i have a i just bought a truck actually and i got a um a cls

104:5663 s yeah it's nice that i just couldn't bring the kids in the audi but i'm actually i miss it so much i'm actually about to get another one so they have a new one yeah i know it's a beast what do you think i'm sitting here like i was like all right i gotta hit the road for about three months i'll be back for that car it's an amazing car yeah this is a good time if you're into cars they got a lot of crazy ass automobiles now yeah when i did have the aria man i would just like and then i lived much further south i actually lived off the 15 like below the 91 and i would when i would shoot to sometimes out to vegas for fights i would just jump in the r8 like on a thursday night like 11 o'clock i'd be there by two i'd get there like three hours like jesus i mean i was already on the 15. i wasn't coming from deep l.a still jesus yeah but i do i do like a buck the whole way god damn it

105:52that's fast that's a four wheel drive car too that car is glued to the ground it's like on rails man it's one of my favorite cars i've ever driven yeah it's like in the style like it's still relevant like they've kept that style basically with just a little few face lifts and improvements for a few years it's essentially like a mini lamborghini right it's the same engine yeah it's the gallardo the same engine as the guy orders a vita i mean it's more than enough power the crazy thing about today's cars is they're so they have so much power it's just ridiculous like every year it's like a new faster 0-60 time new records on the nurburgring it's like what are you doing like where are you taking this like where are you going to drive this thing that fast you know it's going to be teleporting the new corvette zr1 has 700 and something horsepower how does the how does it even stay on

106:41the you know it barely does that one of the drivers from gm one of like the head execs from gm took it on the racetrack like when they were first releasing it and crashed like immediately spun out and slammed in the wall that's great you got to know what the you're doing if you're you're throttling i mean you have to be able to navigate that throttle with 700 horsepower because no matter what those wheels are spinning no matter how much especially rear wheel drive no matter how much traction control you ever you see that video so you find the v it's hilarious it's a good video to watch to let you know like this is a crazy vehicle that you people are selling you're you're letting people get a car that is so much faster than anything that was on the road five years ago i mean it's a insane mobile and the speed limit ain't changed yeah you know where that car comes in handy um

107:36germany yeah yeah gm exec crashes new corvette zr1 i mean he got this is before it was even released this dude showed up he ain't sent me man i got an extra one he ain't sent me that one yeah funny i was talking about this guy i'd like liked a picture here so long ago and like here it is look at this guy boom play that again watch this play it from the beginning this knucklehead started too quick i'll see if there's more angles on there no no no look at this right away this is this guy hey i know how to drive i'm a executive wow yeah he's driving like an he doesn't know how to drive he's sorry just put the foot down yeah he doesn't know what the he's doing dumb ass look that that's a car that you have to know how to navigate once the side when the ass end kicks out too he was just stomping it that's hilarious crash i'm sure he got uh he felt like a nice amount of at

108:42the next board meeting well he should look at that car though good lord what a beast of what are they retailing for ah it's more than a hundred i think it's like a hundred fifty hundred sixty thousand damn probably fully loaded but it is a monster it looks more i like that i like that what they've done to the body stuff see but you know where your r8 has a uh huge advantage your your r8 is a four wheel drive car and 755 horsepower good load good low that's insane good load but the the problem is it's hard to keep all that power down on the on the ground with a rear-wheel drive car you're just going to get a lot of sliding and if you know how to drive you like that people who know how to drive they want to kick the ass in outside sideways and yeah but like if you drive a like say a nissan gtr is a perfect example one of the best things about that car is a regular person can drive it

109:37pretty fast because there's a lot of electronics and what they would call nanny controls that sort of keep everything in order so that car has been around for a long time they really haven't changed a whole lot about the way it looks they've but they've made these incremental improvements in performance and to this day that is one of the bestiest cars you could drive that car is a i rented one of those in austin last year holy was it fun it's a crazy car it's like it does it defies logic like it defies physics that's the nismo one you don't want that one unless you want to take it to a track because that shit's harsh as you just want the regular one the regular one is beasty enough get out of here they're amazing cars though all the pop-up windows trying to get you to buy it come on buy it click buy this buy it buy it buy it but really if i was going to get a

110:26brand new japanese car the real car to get now is the new nsx the new nsx uh tj dilshaw has one he brought it in here and i was checking it out outside man it's got electric engines on top of the the regular engines it's a it's an amazing car just amazing and it's gorgeous oh the accurate okay and they have a 2019 ones coming out that has even more improvements but it's hard for them to sell these cars because like look at how good that looks look how good that looks goddamn still kind of partial to the audi audi's a beast yeah i love it look it's just it's apples or oranges it's just what you're into tj's got that color too that blue could pull up 2018 audi r8 oh it's a 19. oh look at that that's gorgeous come on son you got to get silver too because it looks like a spaceship that's a monster car look how beautiful that is that's one of the best looking cars i've ever seen

111:24what are they like a buck 82 something like that monster monster vehicle just ridiculous perfect good-looking car yeah and easy to drive too it's one of those cars that's just uh it's glued to the ground four-wheel drive electric power steering or electric engines controlling the wheels crazy brake systems amazing look at that god damn it look at that thing great 159 cheesmos that's a lot of cheddar but it doesn't have the sound that your car had see the thing about the audi is they have that big ass v8 or the v10 depending on which one you get that's that's a different thing man it's a different thing what is that beast oh what the 2019 r8 lms oh that's the race car that's a monster that's gorgeous um pull up 2019 audi r8 doo doo doo people get mad we talk too much about cars i can't even afford these cars bro why are you talking about these cars see because it's fun that's uh that must

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112:39be the camouflaged one actually heard or i saw on twitter someone posted a picture they saw one like just driving around with like this weird paint job i've seen that yeah yeah they they drive them all over cities and everything like that to test them yeah they do that for quite a long i've been around a few of those cars you ever see the one that they'll do with regular cars i remember when the remember the pt cruiser yes when that was first like long before it came out like about a year before it came out they would like would see this ugly thing driving around with these magnetic like covers all over it like so you couldn't see the car but you could totally tell what the shape was right it's hilarious nobody gives a about that car anyway but they're gonna steal your design no one's stealing it it's such a shitty car dude i drove one once i had i rented one because it looked kind of

113:23cool i said i'll take one of those that's kind of cool looking oh my god what a death trap i was driving i was like this thing has zero control like you can't corner in it the brakes suck it's just built to look like an old surfer car way worse i rented a hummer h3 once i would never even oh good lord and i took it on a dirt road i was in uh in colorado we drove up this hill the door like every time i was going around the corner it was kicking out sideways that thing had like zero traction it was a terrible car drive a prowler oh never no interesting cyber chip foose designed that same guy who uh built my barracuda or designed my barracuda and not built it yeah yeah no thanks yeah disgusting that was like the hot wheel you hated right you're like get this one out of here man that's the hot wheel you put a firecracker in yeah give me that old corvette this little thing

114:18yeah they tried those they tried those for a while yeah it's an interesting time for cars though now they they've i mean and people are starting to go towards electric cars have you driven a tesla yet no that's a goddamn space machine those things are rocket ships they're so fast they don't even make any sense they don't make any sense they're 0 to 60 in like two seconds that's crazy they're so fast there's there's no there's no gears right because there's no trend the transmission is not the same because there's no it's not a combustion engine has to feed in the transmission the clutch and all this is kind of like when you're just that roadster press uh forward on the remote control cars right it's just huge exactly just going to make sense yeah just electric car that goes 1.9 seconds son 0 to 60. what in the actual and it can go 620 miles before you have to charge it that's crazy

115:12uh that's gonna be a monster that is yeah and how long you gotta wait to get one probably for a while well you hey maybe you got a word in with your buddy yeah it's not ready yeah it's 2020 they're not even going to start selling them i don't even think they've they're not even in production meanwhile he shot one off into space look how pretty it is though god when that thing comes out that's a gorgeous car that's a cgi though right no no that's a real car because it's probably the one they made remember they had one they shot into space look at that look how fast that thing goes 1.9 seconds 250 plus miles per hour i mean what the that's going to be one of the most amazing cars ever once it actually comes out yeah that's kind of cool save up each other 200 g's whoa 250 fully loaded whoa that's just a quarter brick dock that's it founder series reservation what does that mean i don't know

116:06cool awesome yeah that guy was a weird guy to talk to because i couldn't get over all the stuff he does like how do you do all these different things how do you make these and then you make roof panels and then you like drill in tunnels and then you're shooting rockets into space spacex yeah like he's doing everything he's just he's an alien she said he was maybe we should listen said he was an alien he might be it might be a higher thinking life well he might as well be right if he was an alien and he looked exactly like that i'll be honest when he grabbed the joint and the way he kind of looked at it i was kind of like it seemed kind of like a guy who was kind of like um i'm not familiar with this practice but or maybe he's so smart that he thought it would be funny if he pretended he didn't know what a joint was could be i don't think he didn't know

116:58what it was i'm just saying as he was about to partake he kind of had this real inquisitive like yeah but that was the part it was a blunt and he almost seemed like he didn't know what a blunt was like you've never been i could believe that really i can believe that the glass tip could have thrown them off because that's a little unique if you're not if you're not familiar not everybody is hip to weed culture man as we think you know i mean right but when he said that uh tesla was going private funding secure at 420. which is he paid 20 million dollars for that joke that joe cost him 20 million dollars the sec got mad at him they fined him yeah well it's also manipulating your stock prices a little bit well that was one of the things you could send your shareholders into a panic jamie was concerned that they were going to contact us and see if we arranged that pot smoking part like if

117:49that was something that had been arranged in advance because it crashed the stock and i was like i read all the stories that was i was like joe rogan making noise out of here i was like oh jesus we didn't do that did we i definitely didn't yeah that was organic folks dude that was amazing dude that was amazing strange that's that's what this podcast is for yeah for strange strange strange moments that you can't get on nbc well you can't even get it on netflix you know i mean uh liquid uh nor mcdonald's show on netflix like he's uh he's got that thing that he's doing on that with netflix is probably the most unrestricted of all networks of all things you're trying to do in terms of comedy there's nothing ever been like it's the greatest thing netflix for sure is the greatest thing that's ever happened to stand-up comedy ever i can see that never been just about any special you want

118:45they give you no feedback they don't they don't give you they don't with you at all they don't they don't censor you they don't tell you what to do they don't me they have some people have said some things that they wanted to edit out what's a number has to be like way way across the line before they they know what joe rogan numbers are they you know that's when they come to you and they say here's your special we're going to do this they know what they know they don't they know who you are what you do they know they're signing with you or doing their special with you because they know how many eyes you're going to bring to the channel yeah they know what they're doing but it's still that just having this ability to have something streaming it's like there's never been like if you if you're if you're a person who said oh i want to do a show on you know this network

119:32forget about netflix like if you just decided that's almost like i don't want people to watch this i want people to watch it one time i want it to be on 10 p.m saturday october 17th and that's it like who the wants that like nobody wants a you want someone to be at the airport with their phone and be going huh i want to go watch the chris rock special let me check it out right now bam it's amazing and then you're sitting there on your own just watching it there's only there is no live tv and all that's going the wayside it's useless it's i see commercials now i start laughing you dinosaurs with your ass commercials i just i just finished ozark did you finish it the second season don't say anything don't say anything i'm still i just started the second season i'm on second episode it's so good i'm on the episode where they just the the hand the guy blew the hand

120:28don't you you should spoil alert that sir what nobody knows why when or how ah i don't it's people out there i'm just saying netflix is killing it stranger things you ever watched that yeah no i'm waiting for the next season yeah god damn netflix here's what netflix is for like for me and my wife that's like one of our things we find a show yeah to spend some time together it's helpful we do that too yeah ozark she found like you know i mean stranger things i think i found but yeah we that's that's our thing like well like ozark has been kind of tough for us because we watched the first episode of season two and then i went on tour for a month so we just watched the second one so it's like and i gotta leave now so it's like and we can't we don't have time to binge the whole thing so is there any other good ones that i need to know about people occasionally tweet me once and i forget

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121:17there's a weird german one called i think dark i mean it's tran it's it's subtitle this stuff but oh it's crazy well black mirror of course oh yeah black man that's the i watched that show but that is a weird one that's one of those ones that i watch like i'm stoned i come home from the comedy store and i'm smoking a little weed and i'll watch that and i'll go why am i watching someone you were talking about the one the star trekking one and that's what made me go look at it and i was like let me go look at it again cause i think i watched it in the beginning i think i tried early on and it was the one where the politician had the whatever the yeah so and that kind of just looks like all right sorry whatever this weird and i probably just wasn't you know i was like i don't want to but then when you told me about that one i went back started there and that was the last season then

122:00i worked my way back and actually got to that one again and rewatched it and i was like oh these are all pretty crazy did you see heavy metal you see that one that's one with the drones the drones coming after people oh yeah yeah whoa yeah well that's too close to home i binge watched black mirror pretty tough over a just two or three day period and like for like a couple weeks i was convinced i'm living in a simulation like after watching especially the dating ones where yeah they just keep me it's like that blew my mind a little bit because that was another thing that elon musk freaked me out about he he was saying it's quite possible that we are living in the simulation oh dude i'm always playing with that idea like is it like you posted something the other day that was like something oh it was the trump thing was that a real t-shirt by the way it's a well it's a real t-shirt that you

122:45can buy but it's not from donald trump's store it's a company that's selling them it's like trump store dot shop uh yeah so we're living in a movie i was like the fact that someone's just a second just the fact that that's fake news it's not fake news it's a real shirt i know it's not his but eat the fact that that's a shirt that says i like beer and it has a guy who's ru it means they're trying to put this guy in the supreme court it's hilarious the whole world is hilarious the whole world's hilarious it's all up yeah well this is one of the cool things about black mirrors like black mirror showing you like where some things could go in a total dystopian way like where do you see crocodile see that episode crocodile is it give me that's the one where you can we you can record memories and then yes i've seen all of them i just don't know this lady remember this lady

123:40remember this lady with the car accident the beginning and insurance company remember this yes remember this this was that's the darkest of the dark ones that one was so up that one wrecked me oh that was the one where the people could uh rewind each other's memories and play back yeah yeah all that is coming oh that's easily all this is coming then there's the one where it was it wasn't super dark but it was like where the chick was trying to up her status in the world yes get her stars up the uh star trek one's my favorite i think that one was amazing that was a good one it was amazing and it's just and that is this sort of weird blend of current reality and a possibility and like she doesn't know where she is who she is whatever and everybody's recording she's the murderer oh yeah that was a crazy one too man it's a amazing show yeah i only and if you hadn't mentioned the star

124:37trek one i probably never would have revisited that that's so good there's so many good shows now what else is good what else i need to know about anything have you seen it it's not a show it's a i think a documentary ish it's like kind of like half documentary and then they did some like recreations um it's called wormwood no it's all about the uh the uh the acid cia oh uh mk ultra program is that a netflix thing it's on netflix yes wormwood oh you gotta check it it's dope you know what my favorite one they did do you know what operation midnight climax is it sounds like uh they they ran a brothel and they gave uh they gave john's the guys would come to the and they would uh they would give them acid to run tests on it they love to give people acid for back in the 50s i didn't know what happened wormwood yeah it's really good man it has like a really good actor like

125:29doing the playing the main role like when they do the recreations you'll recognize him i forget his name but he's been in a tough he was in a that movie but the marines were with uh gyllenhaal uh where they were in that rack he was his partners jar head yeah he was his partner in jarhead he was that guy he's been a lot of stuff i can't remember him he's a really good actor though there's just almost too much good to watch today oh yeah another one i watched because of you was the the the the the documentary uh wild uh oh wow wow wow country and then it all started coming back like i remember that news when we were like when i was young like this i like started being like oh man i kind of remember this you know i've been reading what i just watched what three identical strangers oh dude about the triplets oh dude i can't even i'm not going to spoil it with it go watch that

126:20it's a netflix thing too it's it's if it's not on netflix i got it on i rented it on itunes for like five bucks three identical streams yeah it might not be on netflix no no no but it's it's basically some triplets that were separated at birth and and um did i say birth birth at birth and uh the story that i mean and that's that's the the first 20 minutes is amazing after that it gets crazy like and dark really yeah okay let's come back on too oh yeah making a murderer is that so is that netflix three identical strangers it didn't say it says it's a documentary i don't know if it could be well wild wild country is just goddamn amazing it was a cnn film so it could be on netflix too but right now it's on itunes and you have to rent it so i don't think i found it on netflix you know what's weird about wild wild country and it's weird about all these crazy sex cults it's like part

127:16of it you go yeah like they got they got something going on that's right like they're figuring out something like they're a little bit what i couldn't figure out about that was where was the flash point where this guy became this guy like what was the thing he did that make everybody believe because that was never made clear to me right i never understood like okay i can understand people getting this excited about it but what was the thing that he did or said or that and i never understood that part of it i've been reading his book and it's actually pretty interesting i actually have it right here the art of living and dying and uh he he wrote this book yeah he wrote this book after he became osho or maybe they published it after he became osho but it's a very good book it's it's weird he's like he had some very good idea oh you know what i think i left it at home uh oh no here it is

128:08he had some very good ideas like it's like he's a philosophically he's a fascinating guy um or he was a fascinating guy and there's real good evidence that his followers poisoned him like there's a lot of people i shouldn't say there's real good evidence there's a lot of people that followed the case very closely that believe that people close to him may have poisoned him and taking his m taking his money so the whole thing the you know i mean the whole thing is just a massive mind those houses are still there in that place like that that ranch that those guys set up there yeah they're all beating down they showed at the end of the documentary and you're like whoa and no there's an interesting another dude i don't know if you've ever heard of him a guy named dr malachi york no he did this he he started in new york uh doing this semi like sort of islamic sec thing he did and then he

129:04brought it into like aliens and and ancient hebrew stuff he like brought all this stuff together all these philosophies and he made this utopian like society in like georgia oh but like the dude was like doing mad criminal and they got it i don't know if there's any movie about this smile but this dude was like oh man picture bigger look at look how smiley he is yeah it um it's it's an incredibly crazy story damn they put them away for 135 years yeah he was doing some quite like stuff like sex cult stuff was going on with stuff in it and it always becomes that you know i wow who lives yeah there's there's that it's so i because i've never seen definitive i've read this and that so it's like there's who say it was like you know he set up and all this and that he had such a perfect society going that nobody wanted that that would succeed you know that same you know but like i

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130:02mean i'm pretty sure it's been proven that the dude was doing some pretty criminal here's two things that seem to happen whenever anybody runs any kind of crazy cult or any sort of like uh weird community outside the norm it always becomes sex it always becomes like the dude says hey you know what i'm not we're going to be we don't need this yeah i think that's what got him in trouble i'm i feel like i remember something like it being some sexual yeah what are you saying children yeah that's what they do but if they wanted to bust him on something i mean if they really wanted to bring him down that's what they would accuse him of i mean you can't truly once someone accuses you of sex with children even if you're not guilty it's on you forever but the thing is like these no one has ever pulled off like a utopian alternative society never it's crazy it's really interesting because at all

130:57the entire history of the united states no one's been able to do it like they try it they'll try it for a little bit and then it falls apart every single one of them that's amazing it's amazing that no one whether it's waco no one it's like this i look at it like the line from the matrix it's like you know our first version of the matrix kept failing because it was all too good and too nice we had to it up a little for everybody to accept it it's just uh to me it's it's quite fascinating that you know we stick to a standard way of living which is you know our modern industrial western civilization and that is it and any deviation of that is scrutinized to the point where it's dismantled and the government steps in they always have guns too they always have guns and way too many guns way too many guns because they're they want to protect their way of life and then someone's

131:48banging people's wives and taking all the money fascinating it's weird that not one has figured it out not one group has just got it nailed well it's probably part of the thing that power corrupts you can't have one person that's like the almighty know it all over of a thing because he's gonna take advantage and then somebody smart within the click is going to say hey this is not right and it's going to fall apart and it always is one person or there's going to be a person underneath that wants that position is going to do something to get it but it's always like one charismatic person that seems to lead these things like whether it's jonestown or whether it's waco charles manson yep yep yeah it's always one one dude it's like this this society is up man you can take yeah one guy gets everybody's attention and next thing you know yeah it is weird isn't it like this desire to have like

132:43our big a big daddy who got all the answers who's better than us because we're all so confused it would be very comforting if someone came along who really understood it all yeah i've got the solution and especially if they have a big ass giant crazy white beard like osho did and then they do they bowed you or if their answers blame the people you want it to blame and make you you know i mean that's another good technique is to make sure all right what does everybody want to be okay that's what we're going to blame it on we'll focus our hate on capitalism you know a lot of these things don't work out because they have to be based on what we talked about earlier yep doing unto others as you want them to truthfully living that lifestyle all right when it doesn't happen like that it's what cats get the power they get in charge they want to keep that power they want to stay in charge

133:31you know there's and they're not going to treat other people the way they want they're going to start intimidating people because that's the way you keep people in line yeah always people want to be you know subjugated man like you're saying they want it they want they want somebody to babysit and know oh i can just sit over here and just be dumb okay cool and if no one was in charge someone would come along that would want to be in charge someone would say you know what the problem with this organization is there's no leadership we need a strong leader we need someone who respects the values and principles this society was founded on but someone who also understands how to be a leader and then people go yes yes that makes so much sense yes guide us they just wanna it's it's it's the same thing it's that it's what goes on instagram everybody wants to believe everybody's

134:16got their that that guy's got his together that guy's got his together man i want to be like that yeah not knowing that like behind the scenes he's falling apart he's falling the apart man i know they're just trying to make it look like they got this i had a friend recently no names or anything but like a friend you know a couple you would never ever in your life think dave i mean i was like man i just want to have a relationship like yours you know i mean and no foster mess anything one day i just turn around and they have their instagram names are different all of a sudden i call up what's up he's like oh yeah we just it didn't work we couldn't fake it anymore it was like i don't know if that was if it's that serious but some it was like just shows you none of that is real cause we don't put you know we don't put our moments up for everybody to see

135:06yeah elon musk talked about that too the people you see on instagram that you think are on social media that you think are the happiest are probably the biggest smiles are struggling the most for sure yeah well they're trying to project that they're always trying to project you the best version of what they're looking at it's the best response all over my instagram when i post about my family or even our struggles like this this is rough right now right but you share it you say huh but we're going to get through we're going to be honest that's one of the things that people like about you you know is that you're real you're not i mean even though you're a famous guy who's been a successful musician for a long time but you're you're you're you you're a normal dude you know i i take that as the highest compliment you should it is the highest i'll take that as a

135:51seriously i gotta wrap this podcast up because i i have to my before we do unfortunately tomorrow night the brooklyn bowl friday august 5th at the brooklyn bowl ufc ultimate pre-party t woodley is hosting oh beautiful oh yeah uh psycho realm and my man evidence if you want to get a discount ufc unfiltered is the code put it in there come see us tomorrow night it's going to be the bomb and get it ladies and gentlemen everlast whitey ford house of pain available now everywhere thank you my brother thanks for having me you

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