Antonio Gracias: DOGE updates, Voter fraud arrests, Finding 'Big Balls' | All-In Live from Miami

This live conversation from Miami is framed around Antonio Gracias, who had taken what the hosts call "a second job working in our government for a hundred or so days" with DOGE. The hosts present DOGE as the least polarizing part of the Trump administration: everyone, they argue, wants less waste, fraud and abuse, even if people question the pace. The timeline is corrected in the exchange. The work had lasted eight weeks, not fifteen or twenty days, and the first four weeks were spent in Woodlawn, Maryland before the involvement became public.

The benchmark for comparison is the Twitter acquisition, where the same group had done zero-based budgeting. One host calls that company one of the most "horrific corporate entities" they had seen. The answer opens with thanks for the invitation and for partners and clients who allowed the time away, and describes the work as an honor and a sacrifice made possible by "thirty years of training in lead operations." It also stresses that there are "many great people in the government trying to help."

So if Twitter was like the JV league, this is like the NBA. It's the most complex thing I've ever seen.

The concrete illustration is a map in the DC office tracing the system "from the border to the benefits programs." It is described as about a 40-foot board that "looks like a bus" and as a "SpaghettiGram" of connections. The verdict is that the government is "worse than I thought, much, much worse than what we saw at TwitterNowX," and that Americans "deserve better."

Asked how many pennies of each federal dollar go to waste, fraud and abuse, the answer starts from a private-sector rule of thumb: any company that is not "super well run" can "easy cut 15%." The speaker says this is where DOGE's trillion-dollar figure came from. The transcript renders the base as "15% of of $7,000,000,000", which does not match a trillion-dollar result, so the spoken or transcribed figure is unclear. The claim carries two conditions: it would require "political will," and it would come "without cutting the core entitlement programs."