Brendan Schaub, Bryan Callen, Eddie Bravo: Fight Companion - June 18, 2016 (Part 1)
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Three, two, yeah!
We're live, ladies and gentlemen.
Eddie Bravo, fresh out of fucking surgeries here.
Looking good.
Gangster as fuck.
Very few people would do that.
I'd be in bed, my feet up, pilled out of my mind.
It was just spine surgery.
It's no big deal.
Yeah, no big deal.
Spine.
Dude got a disc replacement, titanium disc.
Incredible.
Incredible.
Brian Callen, of course, is here.
Popping wine as we speak.
Popping bottles.
That sound was organic.
It wasn't orchestrated, although I feel like if Brian Callen had a character
and his opening in a sitcom was like how Kramer slides in,
Brian would have a nice bottle of wine and he would pop it
and then he would explain the vineyard.
Part of France.
It grows.
Well, it's a Barolo.
This is Barolo from Italy.
Oh, Italy.
Castellero. Castellero. It grows. Well, it's Barolo. This is Barolo from Italy. Oh, Italy. Castellero.
Castellero.
Tell me.
Tell me more.
Tell me more.
But because it's so good, you know, and Giancamo Fenocchio is my favorite.
My favorite.
Is that the paleo one?
No.
No, I forgot to bring him.
I realized as I was pulling into the driveway.
But Brendan, motherfucker, Chavez here with a powerful Young Jamie t-shirt fresh out of
the box.
This thing is hot.
Young Jamie. Where does a motherfucker get a Y-N-G-J-M-E, like Run DMC Young Jamie shirt?
You can find one at youngjamie.com.
Youngjamie.com, bitches.
People are going to get mad at you.
He fucking sold out.
Jamie used to be one of us.
He sold out.
Now Jamie's just sitting for the money.
Youngjamie.com.
Folks, you don't have to buy it, but it is a dope shirt.
Hell yeah.
What's wrong with you?
How could you not? How could you not love it? I have to throw it on. I had a nice stylish shirt. I thought, you don't have to buy it, but it is a dope shirt. Oh, yeah. What's wrong with you? How could you not?
How could you not love it?
I had to throw it on.
I had a nice stylish shirt.
I thought, you know what?
I appreciate it.
At least I can do it.
He's got his own shirt on, which is a strong move.
That's like a bold.
That's almost a rapper.
I'm not on camera.
But it's almost a rapper move.
With his name on it?
Yeah, you got a shirt with your name on it.
I had to make sure it felt good and fit good and all that.
That is one thing a stand-up comic cannot pull off.
You cannot walk around with a shirt with your own face on it.
That's tough.
That literally cannot be done.
Yeah, and jujitsu, it's a weird thing, too.
Because it's very, like, there was one shirt that was like an Eddie Bravo scramble shirt.
I could never wear it.
I can't wear it.
It's weird.
I could wear a 10th plan of shit all day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but something that says Eddie Bravo jujitsu or something, I could never wear it. I can't wear... It's weird. I could wear 10th Planet shit all day.
But something that says Eddie Bravo,
Jiu-Jitsu or something, I don't know.
I'd like to get Jiu-Jitsu shirts made with my name.
It just says he used to be a blue belt.
I've definitely wore Run JRE shirts before, but it was almost like nobody knew what the fuck
it meant.
It's also a brand. It's not like your name.
It doesn't say Joe Rogan on it.
You can get away with it. I feel like
when you get to a certain amount of fame,
you don't see
anyone doing it.
I wore a Fight in the Kid shirt for some
picture and Whitney Cummins went,
don't ever, ever
post a picture of you wearing your own
shirt again.
You are the fighter in the kid.
You can't. It's It's weird, you know?
Even to promote it, though?
You can't be on America's Got Talent and wear an America's Got Talent t-shirt.
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You know what I'm saying?
If I own America's Got Talent, I'm going to wear America's Got Talent.
No, if you were like the host of Star Search, and you had a Star Search shirt everywhere,
you would go to close the Star Search.
What if Johnny Depp wore a shirt that said Johnny Depp?
Or just Johnny Depp.
Well, Kanye West would wear Yeezys, though.
Right.
Yeah, but that's his design.
That's different.
If I designed something cool, I'd wear it.
Dude, I think Kanye West is quite silly in a lot of ways, but his fucking sneakers look dope.
Legit.
They're badass.
He's a great designer.
He's got a good mind for things.
He sets the trend for fashion. He's an interesting cat in a lot of badass. He's a great designer. He's got a good mind for things. He sets the trend for fashion.
He's an interesting cat in a lot of ways.
He's batshit crazy.
He's got a lot of,
sure, for sure,
but who the fuck isn't?
You are too, bitch.
Oh, hell yeah.
I am as well.
Everybody in his room's crazy.
He's also prolific.
I bought all his music
because I told you I was hating on him
and I went home.
I listen to everything.
Yeah, I listen to everything.
I literally bought all his music
and he's so prolific man
He's a bad motherfucker for sure
No doubt about it
Kanye West
But you know who fucking makes me feel lazy as shit
Is Kevin Hart
Him and The Rock
The two of them together
Will they just take it down a notch
Can I relax
Kevin Hart's running 10k's
He's sponsored by Nike
He's got by Nike.
He has his own shoe.
Oh, speaking of someone who makes me feel lazy,
my friend Cameron Haynes is in a 24-hour race right now.
He texted me seven hours in.
He had already ran 50 miles.
Jesus. He said, but he's hurting and he's going to keep hammering.
So at that pace, just stop and think about this.
He's not going to be able to keep up that pace because that pace is insane.
Seven hours for 50 miles. That's 100 miles in 14 hours.
Nobody does that. It's usually like 24 hours. He did
106 last time in 24 hours and he came in
I want to say like fifth place. That's a crazy thing.
There was a woman in front of him. There was a woman who was just a monster.
What's the average mile is that?
You're rolling.
Yeah, you're rolling.
Cam ran 106 miles, I believe.
And I think the guy who won, I do not remember his name, but I believe he was north of 113.
He might have even ran 114.
What was his build like?
Was he skinny or was he like a thick?
Like a fucking gazelle.
Well, Cam was too big at the time.
Cam was up to like 180. He lifts a at the time. Cam was up to like 180.
He lifts a lot of weights, and he's up to like 180.
That's huge for a long distance runner.
For a guy who runs 100, it's real crazy.
But he runs a half a marathon literally every day
because he's preparing for the Bigfoot 200 in August.
So this 100-mile race that he's doing, his 24-hour race,
is just to prepare him for a 200-mile race
in August.
Like, dude, fucking relax.
I can't follow him on Instagram.
What kind of like-
I can't follow him on Instagram.
And he's got a full-time job.
Doing what?
Department of Water and Power in Oregon.
Fucking relax, man.
Full-time job.
What are you trying to do?
Most successful bow hunter in the world.
God.
Runs marathons.
He's an X-Man.
What does he eat?
He beat Lance Armstrong in the Boston Marathon.
What?
Is this true?
Yes.
Not on a bike, though.
Didn't matter.
Running.
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He was one of the greatest endurance athletes the world's ever known.
But what does he do for maintenance?
How does he keep his body?
He's a savage.
He's 100% savage.
You guys are not the same, Brad.
All he does is eat elk.
He eats elk and bear, and he runs, and he lifts, and he works an eight-hour day job.
He lives on elk.
I'm tired.
I'm tired.
Me too.
I'm exhausted.
Just looking at his Facebook feed.
I'm exhausted.
God, I got to start upping my archery running game.
Speaking of exhausted, let's talk about the first fight.
This fight is going to be fucking badass.
These chicks are down.
Valerie Letourneau.
So this is a flyweight fight.
This is the first, I think.
Is this the first UFC flyweight fight?
Is that what it is?
What is SW?
What is SW?
Strawweight.
She's the number five strawweight contender, but this is not a strawweight fight.
This is a flyweight fight.
I think, if I'm not totally wrong and the fucking nerds are going crazy right now.
It's the second, you piece of shit!
There was another card fight!
In fucking Poland!
I love you guys.
Relax.
Everybody relax.
Everybody calm down.
She's nervous as shit.
Yeah, he does.
Jarin Valel.
That's a beautiful name.
I think she's cute.
Show us the card, Jamie, on the other screen so we can see what fights there are.
It's a fun card for sure.
I think she's cute too.
This is the first one.
Brian, you think every girl is cute.
Well, I'm old.
So any girl in her 20s is adorable.
You're like the creepy guy from Family Guy.
Like Dom Herrera said, he's like, she could have a goat head.
She's in her 20s.
So it's Calderwood and Letourneau.
And Letourneau just had a fucking amazing fight with Ioana Janjacek.
Really?
It was a five-round war in Australia.
She went to war, dude, for five rounds with this beast of a Muay Thai fighter.
Super beast.
And she lost the fight, but she more than held her own.
Ioana, the champion.
Yes.
Wow.
Valerie Letourneau, she got down to 125, which I think was too much of a struggle for her.
115.
Excuse me.
Yes, thank you.
And now she's at 125.
This is her first fight at 125.
But I believe she's fought at 135, too.
Would you say Joanna's the best pound-for-pound female fighter in the world?
Oh, yeah.
She's nasty, dude.
She's nasty.
She scares me.
Her striking is so clean.
But I got to say, her fight with Claudia Gadea was super,
super close, man.
It was real close.
Really close.
She dropped her, though,
with a big fucking uppercut.
A little while ago, though.
Mm-hmm.
They've both improved.
Should be interesting.
I think so, too.
When are they fighting again?
Claudia is a straight
200.
Dying piece.
I didn't realize it
until I started watching
Ultimate Fighter.
She's very pretty.
Jacked, too.
She's so strong.
She's jacked to the gills. She's so strong. She's jacked to the gills.
She's so strong.
She looks like Thiago Alves a little bit.
Her jiu-jitsu is nasty, man.
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Her top pressure.
She's very tough to escape from.
Really strong, technical jiu-jitsu.
And her kickboxing, not bad either, man.
No, she's pretty well-rounded.
Very well-rounded.
If anyone's going to beat Joanna, it's her.
If you watch the Ultimate Fighter, I thought she came off better than Joanna.
She won more fans.
You know, they had a full-on fist fight while taping that.
Straight up.
They were throwing head kicks at each other and everything.
Who throws head kicks in a hallway?
Look at this.
Meanwhile, Calderwood is about to get caught in this Valerie Letourneau armbar.
Her arm's not in a good position.
Her left arm's not in a good position.
She shouldn't have good grip.
She's just kind of holding on there.
No.
Big right hand.
Calderwood's nasty, man.
She fights hard.
Real aggressive.
Oh, Valerie goes for it again, but this time not even close.
Ejibar, I'd care to comment on the control of the posture.
It's old school style.
You know, doing jiu-jitsu against that fence, it's tough.
You get squashed.
Jiu-jitsu practitioners generally aren't used to that.
Yeah, you really kind of have to fight or train with one of those, huh?
Yeah, you got to learn how to use the fence to your benefit.
And that takes a lot of practice.
I'm not that good at that.
You know, man, I was really surprised when we used to roll at Legends
how much it hurts.
The cage?
Yeah, the first thing that surprised me.
No, your head.
The worst.
Like when your head gets banged into it and your head gets pushed into it, fucking hurts, man.
It doesn't give that much.
Even your fingers, man.
It doesn't feel good at all.
It's not fun if they rub up against it.
No, I mean, if you're going to do like straight jiu-jitsu and you just want to do jiu-jitsu and never get involved in MMA, you really should have like a padded wall.
Hell yeah.
Fuck that cage.
But the cage looks good if someone's going to sign up.
Wow.
True.
Do you want to be like Brendan Chum?
Do you want to be A cage fighter
Yeah bro we got a cage
Full cage
Full cage
Hey man
Cage fighter
Full MMA
Training at a place
With a full cage bro
It's true
I'm serious
As a fucking total poser
I used to like to walk
Into that cage
Oh no
Oh no
Oh Calderwood
Oh no
All over
Oh Letourneau is hurting
You know you're a bad bitch
If you got a shaved head Oh shit Wow Letourneau is hurting. You know you're a bad bitch if you got a shaved head.
Oh, shit.
Wow, Letourneau.
She's scrambling.
Dude, they could have easily stopped that.
Oh, my God.
Letourneau is tough.
Wow.
Thank God they didn't.
See?
Wow.
Thank God they didn't.
She got that spinning elbow right in the old jaw.
She recovered.
Look, she's dead looking at the full card.
Oh, dude, she got tagged again.
Valerie Letourneau is so tough, man.
Wow.
They're in bows.
Dude.
You know, she has a good striking background.
I think she's just used to getting hit.
Mm-hmm.
Man.
But she's just tough, too, man.
Oh, shit.
Calderwood with the big elbow.
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Oh, we should tell you guys.
It's 1-13.
If you want to sync up, it's 11-10-9-8-7-6-5.
That's probably the best way to do it, right?
For sure.
First round, Joanne Calderwood and Valerie Letourneau.
It's a good card, though, man.
It is a very good card.
This fight's fun.
Did you see the Tamden McCrory fight earlier?
What happened?
Which one?
Letourneau's tough, dude.
Did you see that?
Tamden got starched with one straight left hand.
Damn, I didn't see it.
I saw a homeboy.
It's crazy. Joe Soto? Damn, his grappler. Joe Soto looked good. Damn, I didn't see it. I saw a homeboy. It was crazy.
Joe Soto.
Damn, Joe Soto looked good.
Damn, I see a little Damian Maia.
And mad pressure, too.
He was losing that fight.
He was losing that fight, but they weren't giving him enough credit for the pressure that he was putting on Chris.
It's because he was getting tagged, I think.
He was getting hit.
He was getting lit up.
I thought he was getting lit up.
I thought he was definitely getting hit.
I thought the second round he won.
He took his bat. That was so tough. So he won the second round he won. He took his bat.
That was so tough.
So he won the second round.
He was winning the third round.
Look at this fight.
When Kenny was saying that he was down two rounds to one, I was like, man.
I had it 1-1.
This girl is taking shots.
Yes, I definitely had it 1-1.
And then third was up in the air until he took him down.
It was night and day.
See, what I was seeing, though, was a lot of pressure from Joe Soto.
I mean, Chris was definitely hitting him, but he didn't have him hurt at any point.
And Soto was constantly moving forward and constantly pressuring him.
What a fight.
Yeah, very good fight.
And then in the third, Soto started to tag him.
Soto started to really put that pressure on him.
And look, it's fucking hard as hell.
No one has to tell you to back up while you're striking.
Backing up and striking is so much harder.
What do you mean backing up?
You never move backwards. You never move backwards in real life. You
run forward. So in order to run backwards all the time like that, it's exhausting.
It's way harder to move backwards. That's why Thompson's so special. Oh and Liotta.
When Liotta was at his best, oh you couldn't even get near him. But that's
just, it's a thing that you could get good at. I mean Muhammad Ali used to run
miles backwards.
It's over years and years.
Like, Wanderboy's been doing it since he was a kid.
You got to do it.
You got to do it.
It's a really important part of footwork.
The backing up thing can't be exhausting to you.
Because the moving forward thing is easy for everybody.
So if a guy is just sort of walking you down, you can't hurt him.
His walking forward is relaxed and easy.
Because it's natural.
Yeah, especially if he has good blocking blocking but you're constantly springing your body
backwards springing body backwards different muscles for openings it's
exhausting it takes like 30% more watch this watch this this this is crazy
oh it's perfect oh she's out she's hurting for sure she definitely wasn't
out I mean Joe, think about it.
The guys that can go backwards, successful, are some of the best.
Oh, for sure.
They're the worst to deal with.
Dude, they're hard to deal with.
Because you can't mimic it really in training.
One of the things interesting about this fight tonight is that Rory brought in one of the best guys in the world at it.
He brought in Raymond Daniels.
Raymond Daniels, that badass karate guy from Glory who throws those 360 turning sidekicks
and hits dudes in the face with them.
He's wild, man.
His kicking is insane.
So Rory's going to be working with a guy who can kick arguably as good as Wonderboy or
in the neighborhood at least.
God, I would say better at his level, especially professionally.
As a kickboxer, it's good to make that argument. It's also different
though, isn't it? Yeah, well, the thing is
Wonderboy as a kickboxer was
absolutely perfect. 57-0, yeah.
And Raymond's lost some tough fights.
But did Raymond lose
to guys like Valtellini? Exactly.
And did he lose to those guys because they were just
so world-class? Tougher competition. And Wonderboy
never faced someone like that? Is that the case?
Oh, damn! She's tagging her.
Letourneau's so tough. We're talking so
much shit through this awesome fight. Oh, it's such a
§06Transcript · 14:30–17:50
good fight. Watch Letourneau. She's just...
It's amazing. It is a very good fight, though.
Damn, it's a good fight. And she's... Oh!
Getting caught. Letourneau's just
throwing and connecting
every time. Well, Letourneau, like, you
see her striking. It's real technical, man.
Look at that nice uppercut there.
Great uppercut.
You saw that in the Jacek fight.
That's the only way you can survive striking with Jacek.
But I do have to say, Joanna broke her hand in that fight.
That's right.
So that could have been a big factor.
By the way, still throwing bombs with it.
Still throwing bombs.
Throwing bombs with a broken hand.
They say she would go into Golden Glory and just do work against dudes.
Oh, I could imagine.
She's just a monster.
I could imagine.
I could imagine.
Think how intimidating that is, being her size, going to Golden Glory.
Super impressed with her.
What is the turn of the background?
Is she a striker first, too?
Yeah, yeah, striker.
She's an ATT girl.
She trains at American Top Team, which she can't have on her shorts.
Isn't that weird?
Even in boxing, you'd have Kronk on your shorts.
They should have their fucking gym on their shorts. You should be able to have your gym on your shorts. On top of Reebok, you should definitely have your it on her shorts. Isn't that weird? Even in boxing, you'd have Kronk on your shorts. They should have their fucking gym on their shorts.
You should be able to have your gym on your shorts.
On top of Reebok, you should definitely have your gym on your shorts.
Like, out of respect, right?
I agree.
Why don't more fighters practice running backwards?
It's a good question.
It takes too long.
It's hard.
It takes too long.
Nobody does that.
This is the first time I've ever heard of this.
Well, Eddie, you know how a lot of dudes don't like to be on the bottom?
Yeah.
Same thing.
Same things. People don't want to do things of dudes don't like to be on the bottom? Yeah. Same thing. Same things.
People don't want to do things that they don't like to do in training.
And especially like running backwards, it's not fun.
It's also going to take a while to get good.
But it seems like a good workout thing.
You know, just run backwards just for your cardio.
I realized real early in doing Taekwondo how exhausting it is
to try to move backwards because i used to spar with this kid it was a really good boxer and he
used to beat my ass but i was always moving backwards from him i was always moving backwards
and i would get exhausted i was like why am i getting so fucking tired and then after a while
i realized like it's got to be connected not just to his pressure, but also the fact that I'm moving backwards so much.
It's not just a physical thing.
And then as I get better at boxing, I definitely found that that was the case.
And it's a lot more energy.
Like when I move forward, if I move forward and you're the counter punch
and you're going backwards, you're taking way more steps than I am moving forward.
So you're doing way more work.
Definitely.
But if Muhammad Ali was doing it, you'd think that everybody would do it, right?
Not everyone's athletic.
But he used to run.
Oh, the running backwards thing, man.
Yeah.
Well, there's a lot of coaches.
A lot of coaches work on that stuff now.
They even do it on treadmills.
They do like sprints on treadmills running backwards.
It's also less wear and tear on your knees.
Is it really?
Going backwards, yeah.
Well, I guess you kind of have to go on your balls of your foot running backwards.
Yeah, you can't go heel.
You'll fucking go flipping backwards. Football your foot running backwards. Yeah, you can't go heel. You'll fucking go flipping backwards.
Football players practice running backwards.
Yeah, definitely.
Cornerbacks.
Certain positions, yeah.
Well, I want to ask you this question before I forget it.
You trained at Jay Glazer's place, huh?
Yeah.
Dude, I was watching Instagram of that today.
That's that joint.
Now, did Jay Glazer just set that up all himself?
I mean, he's definitely the captain of that ship, yeah.
Dude, what a fucking huge move that is for him.
That's a great facility.
Good spot, too, right off Sunset there above Pink Taco.
The reason I brought it up, they had these football players doing these exact same drills.
They were running forwards and backwards and doing all this crazy sprinting shit where it's all like, you know, the coach will tell you, ready, backwards, go forward, back, back.
And they're working all this stuff out.
All reaction stuff.
Oh, look at this.
I'm like, this is heavy-duty shit.
Well, you guys obviously didn't see that there's a truck in Tarzan.
§07Transcript · 17:53–20:49
Almost all of their sports practice going backwards.
Yeah.
Now that I think of it.
A lot of fighters do.
Obviously, Conor does.
Conor's really good at moving backwards and moving forwards.
Got some leg kicking going on.
But there's no doubt, I think, as we both agree, moving backwards and moving forwards Got some leg kicking going on But there's no doubt I think
As we both agree
Moving backwards costs more energy
Connor fired that movement coach huh
Did he?
Yeah he was like looking back on it
I think I need to be more in the gym instead of climbing fucking logs
You sure he's not still working with that guy?
Pretty sure
From what I heard
He's like you know what I'm good on climbing trees and shit.
I should probably work on my jiu-jitsu defense.
The other guy is the law guy.
Erwan LaCour.
That's all the same shit.
Hula hoops and balls.
Hey, bro.
Okay, I disagree.
That's unfair to the movement movement.
There's a lot of merit in the movement movement.
I'm just saying the guy who was the head of this movement movement was like,
I'm good.
I get some shit to focus on.
Here's why I think there's some merit to it two reasons one break dancers one of the things in jujitsu and eddie bravo attests to this is we had a bunch of break dancers start training
and uh eddie was like the first to comment on it like how crazy strong they are in a weird way
they can move their body so well they all get good good at jiu-jitsu really quick. All of them.
It wasn't just one or two of them.
They all got good at jiu-jitsu.
And I got a couple more since.
I got a couple more breaks.
They come in and they're really good right away.
They get it.
Well, their motor skills too
with that movement.
Dude, they're so fucking strong.
They're used to asking
so much shit from their bodies.
And memorizing stuff too.
So when they look at
Oh, pass the guard.
Dude, I spin on my head in slow motion, dude.
For sure.
I do one-handed handstands.
Yeah, those guys are ridiculous.
Hold an arm like this.
You guys are having trouble with this.
Well, they're doing backflips.
They're doing one-handed handstands.
They're jumping on one hand.
They do, I mean, they're good guys.
Have you ever seen his black belt, Richie Martinez?
No.
Tell him.
And Gio.
Gio Martinez and Richie Martinez. His that have been breakdancing their whole lives.
Tell him.
Tell him, Eddie.
Tell him how ridiculous these dudes are.
As an instructor, no instructor wants to give black belts early.
Nobody does.
It isn't something that you want to do because that's a reflection on you.
And if you give it too early and they get crushed, you look bad.
So you're like, I'm not going to give you your black belt until I can make sure that
you don't embarrass me.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Right.
It's the last thing we want to do.
We're back on the fight here real quick because there was some sort of a change.
Will you explain what happened, Jamie?
We had to change channels?
We changed channels from Fox Sports 2 to Fox Sports 1.
Why did we do that?
Because of NASCAR races.
Oh, it just took over?
Yeah.
So Fox changed it in mid-fight?
Dude, this is a brawl.
What?
That's not confusing.
What?
They changed it mid-fight.
You're fired, Jetson!
Fired!
You're fired!
Who the fuck changes a fight like this in mid-fight?
That just happened.
That is so crazy.
People are going to miss this.
They're going to not go to Fox Sports 1, and they're going to miss this.
It's kind of confusing.
They go to take a piss, they come back or they're talking like I was.
Missed it. I was like, what the fuck?
§08Transcript · 20:50–23:14
Thank you, Jamie, for being so honorable.
If you don't have a young Jamie living with you, you're screwed.
Jamie's something else.
Anyway.
Anyway, I gotta step up my dance game.
These music coaches aren't breakdancing.
But dude, these guys, like, Ito Portal, that guy.
It's a super extreme movement if movement got extreme
It would be what these guys are doing. Yeah, this is super crazy like the ultimate
That movement shit that you could possibly I wish I could break
Body
Goddamn the turn those times so tough. Oh my god. Goddamn, Letourneau's tough. She's so tough. Oh my god, and now she's firing these and she gets cracked with an elbow.
God, she's tough.
Calderwood is a beast.
Yeah, but so is Letourneau, man.
Dude, they both are.
Oh my god.
That looked like it hurt.
Ooh, shovel hook.
Ow, oh, oh.
Damn.
Damn, I gotta see that.
Look at this.
Oh!
She kicked her out of the titty.
That's the titty.
Right in the titty.
What happened?
You're not allowed to hit there?
What happened?
You're not allowed to kick there? What happened? I guess you're not allowed to kick there of the titty! That's the titty! Right in the titty. What happened? You're not allowed to hit there?
You're not allowed to kick there?
What happened?
I guess you're not allowed to kick there in the titty.
No, you definitely can. No, it's like the nuts.
Off limits, son.
It's off limits, son.
No, that can't be true.
Five minutes.
That can't be true.
Take your five, girl.
That can't be true.
You guys said a titch can't be kicked in there, man.
It's like baseball.
It's unspoken rule.
This is a very good fight in a minute.
That's not true, is it?
It's like baseball.
It's unspoken rule. No hitting in the glands, you fucks. That's not true, is it? It's like baseball. It's unspoken rule.
No hitting in the glands, you fucks.
You can't kick Misha Tate in that titty.
Nope.
Those perfect titties.
You can't do it.
What would happen if you punted the...
Those are really big.
No hitting to the titty.
Really nice.
They're awesome.
Would they show the replay?
Brandon, would they show the replay?
Can I get a ruling on that?
If a girl kicked another girl right in the groin really hard? Would they show the replay?
They show it with guys.
I know.
They do it in slow motion.
Super slow-mo.
Oh, she got nailed again.
God damn, that girl is the vicious.
That's it.
Oh, my God.
That was a crazy ending.
Have you ever seen a girl attack a set of titties like that?
Oh, my God.
Calderwood is a beast.
That wasn't a titty shot.
It was a body shot.
I think she broke a rib with that one shot earlier.
I think she quit.
I need the replay. Or somewhere in that fight, it was a body shot. I think she broke a rib with that one shot earlier. Bro, I need the replay.
Or somewhere in that fight she might have broke a rib.
Good God, that was a beast of a fight.
Good Lord.
Even when she turned her back, she went relentless.
Spinning elbow.
This is the day where people online go, hey you fucks, occasionally watch the fight.
This was crazy.
This is a crazy fight.
My bad.
Oh my God, she's so tough, that girl.
She's a beast. Let me see this fucking Spartan kick to the bad. Oh, my God. She's so tough, that girl. She's a beast.
No, let me see this fucking Spartan kick to the tit.
Oh, this is tough.
Boom!
No, that's right in the sole.
Yeah.
That's right in the stomach.
That's the second time she did that, too.
Ow.
Look at that knee.
§09Transcript · 23:15–25:59
She comes in with a knee.
Boom!
She's got to stop this.
And she comes in with a knee to the thigh.
That's her opening move.
That's beautiful.
I want to see the first one.
Watch this.
Boom.
Ow.
But check this out. Run
knee to the thigh. Bam. Why did she turn around
like that? Why would she turn around like that?
She's jacked.
You mean Valerie?
You can't turn around like that. She's hurt bad.
Drop to the ground. You can't turn your back.
She got hurt with a bad shot to the
body earlier in that round.
I think she was really hurt. Oh yeah.
She's so fucking tough. I think she was really really hurt Oh, yeah. She's so fucking tough. I think she was really,
really hurt to take it like that.
Oh, my God, she's tough.
That is the first time I've ever seen someone
run at someone who's hurt and open with
a knee to the thigh. Yeah, and then a
spinning back fist. That girl has got a
complete Muay Thai game, man.
That's a complete game.
She's thinking in all these different angles.
She doesn't have a It's a fun fight
Yeah she doesn't have like a limited approach
Bro speaking of fun fights
Anthony Rumble Johnson out against Glover
What happened?
I don't fucking know
Ruined my day
What happened?
No idea
Injury?
Do you know Jamie?
Injury for sure he pulled out
A little far out to pull out though huh?
They can't
Do you like break a leg or some shit?
You must have something really wrong
Fuck To pull out this early is nuts right They can't. Do you, like, break a leg or some shit? You must have something really wrong. Fuck.
To pull out this early is nuts, right?
God damn, I wanted to see that fight.
It's my number one fight this year for me.
Do they make Gustafsson versus Glover?
They just gave Gustafsson some bullshit fight, didn't they?
That's what I'm saying, dog.
Bro.
Let's get it moving.
Let's get this rolling.
Let's get back to an oh, shit fight.
Send out that bat signal, son.
That's an oh, shit fight. What about Gust bat signal, son. That's an oh shit fight.
What about Gustafson?
He's hit very much in the game.
He's been real quiet.
Yeah, they just announced the fight.
He's one of the best.
He's right up there.
Look, he went five hard rounds of Jon Jones, five hard rounds of DC.
He's number three in the world for sure.
He lost to Rumble, but guess what?
Everybody who Rumble hits like that goes night-night.
But did you see that they played it over and over?
He did get headbutt, too, by accident.
It looks like it.
Yeah, it looks like it.
It looks like it.
It's hard to see.
Like, I've looked at it and thought that it didn't look like a headbutt.
Then I've looked at it and I said the punch landed first for sure.
But it looked like they definitely collided.
Yeah, but it's tough.
It's just when did they collide?
If Anthony touches anyone like that, though.
I think if they fight ten times, you're getting a different result each time.
Maybe there's a good breakdown of it in slow-mo,
but it was hard to see if the right hand landed first or the headbutt landed first.
We broke it down a little bit before.
What did we think?
I thought it was headbutt, but the more we played, I almost started siding with you.
I always thought it was a headbutt.
I got so high once.
I watched the Bigfoot footage.
I thought it was real.
I was so high.
I was like, maybe I've been making fun of this all the time.
This shit's real.
She's so tough, this girl.
She just took some shots in the stomach.
That's how stupid I am.
Wow.
Is CM Punk the new Tarzan?
Definitely not.
§10Transcript · 26:00–28:54
If he fails every WADA test ever created. CM Punk is a very reasonable looking athlete.
Yes, he is.
You know what I mean?
He's a good looking guy.
For a WWE guy, he's kind of small.
Yeah, I'm just saying not like...
Tall, good looking.
Yeah, not a bad looking guy.
He's handsome, but what I'm saying is his body is like a guy who works out a lot.
For sure.
He doesn't look like Batiste or some shit.
Yeah, exactly.
Steroid gills.
Who's the other?
Bobby Lashley.
That's another one.
Like, Jesus, Louise. That's Bobby? I mean, he's fighting for Bellator, though. He's fighting other? Bobby Lashley. That's another one. Like, Jesus Louise.
That's Bobby?
I mean, he's fighting for Bellator, though.
He's fighting a lot of events for Bellator.
Yeah.
Oh, look at that.
That was in the titty.
Oh, so you know what it was?
No, no, no.
It was a face, and then she pulled her bra.
Her boob popped out of the bra.
Wow, respect.
Respect to Calderwood.
She's like, what happened?
Look at this.
And then that was stomach.
First one was titty.
Second one was stomach.
But there was another one to the stomach that was before that that she buckled.
There was another shot to the stomach before that that made her buckle.
So there was more than one shot to the stomach that had Valerie in trouble.
I'm pretty sure.
Me and her have the exact same fate.
Is that not weird?
And the same ear.
I bet you both would love.
Exactly.
See?
Getting good at this.
Getting good.
Getting better.
Sometimes it's better to say nothing.
Sometimes it's better to say nothing.
I'm a big fan.
Leave it to the imagination.
I think she's cute.
She's gangster as fuck, dude.
She ended with a spinning back fist off the cage.
That was some shit you put in a movie. With back fist off the cage. Oh, my God.
With a girl's back to her.
It would look unrealistic.
I know, right?
Her combinations were beautiful, too.
So technical.
Knee to the butt, and then she threw a right and a left elbow, and then a spinning back
fist to close it.
It was a knee to the thigh.
It was a knee to the thigh.
Look at this.
Boom!
So she tees off on her.
This is the first one, right? This is the first knockdown. Now watch this shot to the body. That's the one that's the one turned her around
My goodness fuck you think was gonna happen. Oh my goodness. This is Fight Club. What a combination
Well, she just got hurt real bad there man. She had people get hurt all the time. You never turn your back and run
Well, listen, man, I'm not forgiving it get out of there. I think people get hurt all the time. You never turn your back and run.
Well, listen, man. I'm not forgiving it.
I'm just saying I think her guts were on fire.
You know?
Yeah.
Dropped to the ground.
It's one of those things, man.
It's like she's just reacting in that moment.
She got hurt bad.
That Fedor and Meladonna fight.
Get the fuck out of my face.
Oh, what the fuck happened there, man?
What the fuck happened?
I don't know.
Leonardo caught him with a swift left hook, and he was on a queer street. He was so out. Meladonna definitely should have won that fight. And fuck happened? Maldonado caught him with a swift left hook, and he was on a queer street.
Belladonna definitely should have won that fight.
And what happened?
I mean, you're in Russia, Russian judges.
I mean, they would have stopped it.
If it was here, Federer loses that fight.
I was kidding with the Belladonna.
But, no, Maldonado's a good boxer, man.
He caught him with that right hand, caught him with a nice short right hand,
and beat him up on the ground.
He was out.
Federer was out on his feet.
He looked bad.
And then he got up at one point in time, and Fabio hit him with a bomb
and had his legs wobbling, and he did the chicken dance across the octagon,
and he still lost the decision.
§11Transcript · 28:57–31:31
Yep.
It's Russia.
I mean, but the second two rounds, he didn't do a lot.
But still, that first round's 10-8.
If not, can I give a 10-4?
It might be 10-7. It might be 10-7.
It might be 10-7. At least 10-7.
Right? Because he had him... I don't know, man.
When did someone get a 10-7? That would be it.
That was so close to a stoppage. If that's in the
U.S., that fight stops, I think.
Well, you say that, but then there's like
Frankie Edgar Gray Maynard. Well, not if
Mazzagatti's the ref or whoever the fuck
Guys, Tarzan trailer.
Guys, this movie's so realistic.
I love it.
Yeah, because lines could be cool with a white man like that.
Wait a minute.
Back up.
Is that fucking Snoop Dogg?
No, man.
That's Samuel L. Jackson.
You're high as fuck.
I looked at it at the very last second.
Look at this.
What is this?
Oh, my God.
He's dead.
He just jumped through the air, and he's going to collide with a chimp, right?
I see.
I can't watch it.
Was that a chimp or a gorilla that he just collided?
It was a gorilla.
Gorilla.
Gorilla.
Okay.
Well, he's dead.
Mountain gorilla.
Well, he's dead.
That's like, why don't you just headbutt an airplane?
Oh, then he just tackled a gorilla.
Yeah.
It's a 600-pound animal.
Oh, it is Sam and Jackson.
Don't ever confuse the two.
He looks very young.
By the way, Sam and Jackson looks really young.
This is fucking computer graphics.
He's going to go to war with this gorilla?
Bitch, what are you talking about?
No, the gorilla's going to war for him.
Oh, for him.
Yeah.
Okay, well, why'd they collide then?
Different gorilla?
No, I think they're trying to stake their territory for a hot gorilla.
You know what, man?
Is he picked the wrong primate to have a war with.
They're fucking scary, man.
Yeah, those things are just way too big.
Like, the idea of
an 800-pound human is terrifying,
but an 800-pound gorilla?
What's the, like, is that, like, the biggest thing yet?
We've gone over this. I think it was, like, 500.
I think we decided on 500. No, I thought it was 600.
I thought it was 630. That was the issue, right?
There was quite a few definitions. Like, one of them said
800, one of them said 500. There are a couple
big ones, I think that I like that big
Fucking average, what's the outlier though like the mountain like the mountain but who's the silverback right? Yeah
You know, that's the King Kong out there in this bitch. Do you watch Game of Thrones? I don't I'm 33 this dragon
I don't we've been over this
If you get to a certain age And dragons no longer become fun Yeah yeah Stop I've never liked them
Stop
And I'm not gonna like them now
Are you into it?
Are you into it?
I love it
I love it
I never miss
I never miss an episode
Yeah
I never miss an episode
I need something to watch too
Do you not disparage my fine show?
It's awesome
I used to look forward to it
I shut everything down
And by the way
Really?
And by the way
How many seasons?
I don't even know.
Six?
I've seen every one of them.
The Mother of Dragons, dude?
It's one of the few shows that I've seen every one of them.
Dude, she can step in a fire and be fine.
§12Transcript · 31:33–34:06
425, six foot tall.
Yeah, that's one.
But if you go to another one, like if you go to Wikipedia, I remember it's like way bigger.
Mountain gorillas get up to 600 pounds.
No, it just says 425.
This is what I want you to Google, please.
What is the largest gorilla? Biggest gorilla of all time. It's over 600 pounds. The, it just said 425. This is what I want you to Google, please. What is the largest gorilla?
Biggest gorilla of all time.
It's over 600 pounds.
It's got to be King Kong.
What's the Brock Lesnar of gorillas?
Because there's a Mighty Mouse Johnson.
There's a Brock Lesnar.
It's probably obese.
What's the Bob Sapp of gorillas, Jamie?
What does it say, Jamie?
Tidus.
Silverbacks can be 600 pounds, man.
I can't read any of that.
Damn, he's out of shape, though.
What does it say, Jamie?
I don't see his size.
It doesn't say his weight.
Bullshit. What?
How dare they?
Biggest gorilla I ever found
in the world.
I'll tell you what,
I'd rather fuck with that gorilla
than a crocodile.
Yeah, dude, I am so not
into fucking with crocodiles.
He needs more alligators.
I used to be into alligators,
not anymore.
Well, we were talking
about that thing
before the show.
Look at that thing's shoulders.
Two-year-old kid that got
sucked into the water
in Orlando.
I blame the parents a little bit.
Hey, it's Florida, son.
Yeah, just maybe they're not from Florida.
They're from Nebraska. They're from Nebraska.
They're from Nebraska.
It's a tragedy.
They don't know, man.
Look, if you're not around those goddamn monsters, you don't know.
Hey, Disney, let's go ahead and put up some crocodile signs.
Just be safe here.
Well, they had signs that said, don't know swimming, but they didn't have signs that
said, beware of alligators.
By the way, in one of my more retarded moments on the show we're trying to figure out how a
crocodile is not the biggest lizard when there's so much bigger than Komodo
dragons were like why is a Komodo dragon not nearly as big as a crocodile what
they call the biggest lizard these crocodiles aren't reptiles the reptiles
yeah lizards it lizard is a very specific really see I thought a lizard
was a reptile it is a little You did too for a little bit.
No, a lizard.
I definitely did when we were doing that podcast.
Whoa, you did too.
All of us were on board.
A lizard is a reptile.
Oh, listen, I definitely got it wrong.
A crocodile is not a lizard.
Sure.
I wouldn't even think that, well, a lizard is definitely a reptile, but a crocodile is
not a lizard.
Which is insane.
A crocodile is a reptile.
Oh, I see.
That's what we're saying.
Different species.
Different species.
Yeah.
But it's like one of those things like monkeys, like saying monkeys are chimps.
Yeah.
I just got it wrong.
You know, they're obviously the same kind of thing, you know, but they're a different
classification.
Right.
So apes don't have tails, right?
Right.
So you have baboons, gibbons.
Well, you know, monkey's not real, though.
It's not even a real word.
The issue is, like, monkey's not a scientific term.
It's a chimpanzee.
There's simians.
There's all sorts of different primates, right?
But the way it's described now, like the way it's being accepted, there was an article about it, maybe?
Maybe you could find it, Jamie?
That all apes are monkeys, but not all monkeys are apes.
All apes are monkeys, not all monkeys are apes.
So you could call it.
That makes sense.
This is in the classification.
This is the way they were going off in this
§13Transcript · 34:08–37:22
article. You could call a chimp
or a person, you can call us a monkey.
But you can never call one of those
spider monkeys, you can
never call that an ape. That's not an ape.
What's an orangutan?
That's an ape. Chimpanzee,
mountain gorilla, orangutan, gibbon,
which is smaller.
It looks just as small as a lot of monkeys.
And then the bonobo.
These are all apes.
And I think baboons are apes, right? Yeah.
They're a weird one, though.
Baboons might be monkeys.
This is like a monkey that fucked a dog.
Oh, yeah.
Doesn't it?
Baboons?
Yeah.
Dude, we shot something with a baboon.
Remember we shot that thing with a baboon?
The guy was missing fingers.
They bit his fingers off. What? The trainer? Yeah The guy was missing fingers. I bit his fingers off.
What?
The trainer?
Yeah, he missed two fingers.
I ripped his fingers off.
Yeah.
Because a male baboon?
He was balls deep in baboons, too.
Male baboon?
He was so into them.
Yeah.
And he goes, hey, you know what he said?
He goes, don't look him in the eye.
Don't look him in the eye.
Oh, my God.
And he goes, who wants a picture?
I went, not me.
But then dudes were lining up.
And when dudes would line up, I swear to God, the baboon would take pictures like this.
Girl, fucking strong arm that bitch, grab her and just hold on her titty.
Oh, God, that's terrifying.
Yes.
What a terrifying animal.
I want to see a video of this.
That's me dressed as a woman.
His dick was out the entire time.
That's me dressed as a woman with my baboon.
He had a giant boner the entire time. He does. He has a boner
in this picture. It's a purple boner.
I'm sending it to myself before he forgets.
Yeah. And by the way,
those things are
strong as shit. Teeth like this.
The males will test you.
The males will kind of go,
you're being dominant right now. I'm going to have to sink my teeth
in your face. What did the guy say to you?
All the guys? He goes, do not look this teeth in your face. What did the guy say to you? All the guys?
He goes, do not look this thing in the eye. What am I on your phone?
Send it to me.
You look that thing in the eye, he's going to rip your dick off.
Dude, fuck those things.
Those things scare the shit out of me.
You know what, though? It was kind of small.
I felt like I could fuck him up.
Dude, fuck that.
Well, you you could but not
Damage you can't get damage, but the biting hey, bro. That's not the one I saw
You're not gonna be able to deal with that no look at that no okay
That's a special time if you can bring that to the screen is everybody at home get to see this good
That's not what we're looking at. That's not we fit.. Have fun when that thing is sinking its fucking canines in here.
Dude, that's going to bite your neck apart.
It's going to literally shred your neck apart.
I had some watered down fucking, he was on meth or something real skinny.
Oh my God.
I'll take a bite from a German shepherd over that fucking thing.
Oh, of course.
Dude, there's some of the most ferocious primates.
Why are their asses all pink?
That's what they show you bitches what time it is. They fight leop they fight leopards any more questions you fucks no well not only that
dude they train dogs baboons are strange just they're very intelligent some weird way yeah
they train fucking dogs would you rather fuck would you rather fuck with that thing or a
chimpanzee oh man i don't want to fuck with these conversations i don't want this conversation
probably probably him over a chimp though no i don't want these conversations. We're all grown. Probably him over Chimp, though.
No, I don't know.
No.
Chimp's way stronger.
It's got to be who's bigger.
Well, he's probably pretty fucking strong, too.
And look at those goddamn fangs.
Jamie, why you got to bring up the goddamn fucking...
Chimp's will change your whole life.
Fador of Baboon.
Chimp's will free you of your face and your genitals.
Yeah, I think, okay, I'm looking at these arms.
See, I'm fucking those up.
I think I could come over with this fucking thing.
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That's what I'm saying, Joe.
If you were on a monkey's back, you think you could choke a monkey out if you had his back?
A monkey, for sure.
Well, they're too little.
A monkey.
Monkeys are little.
Yeah.
Like a little spider monkey.
You'd have to have a serious over-under.
A bad one might surprise you.
Whoa.
That's fake.
What's that picture of the monkey?
It's fake.
It's fake on him.
It's not real.
It's fake.
You got a dick on him there, though.
Oh, he does have a dick on him.
Jesus.
Look at that.
But isn't that looking like- Skip leg day, though. It's not real. He's fake. He's got a dick on him there, though. Oh, he does have a dick on him. Jesus. Look at that. But isn't that like-
Skip leg day, though.
It's kind of a dog-
It's kind of a dog thing, right?
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, it's weird.
It's weird.
Yeah, it's like all wet.
It's like real sticky and wet.
It's like a werewolf.
It's got a tight tummy.
Tight tummy, though.
Whoa.
Do you think that that's like the-
Look at that pussy.
Where the origins of the werewolf came from?
Like baboons?
Probably.
Someone saw one of those.
It'd have to be fucking huge, though, in order for someone to think it was that big.
Well, just the size of a person.
The biggest baboon.
You get baboons that are 115, 100, I think.
Jamie, what's the biggest baboon we've ever seen?
Okay, let's take a guess.
I'm going to go with Brian.
I think that sounds right to me.
How much males?
110 pounds?
110?
I'm going to go ahead and say there's a big boy out there about 180 pounds.
Just diesel the fuck up.
The biggest.
Maybe if they have diabetes.
Yeah, maybe with 10 pounds of teeth.
Apes get diabetes.
They get diabetes.
They have problems.
They do?
Yes.
Why?
Do they eat a lot of high C and diet sodas?
Because in zoos, I'm always appalled in zoos.
I've read they don't feed their apes very well.
This kid is a sturdy, sturdy young man.
He is friends with my friends who own Joe Beef, which is one of the best restaurants on the planet Earth.
And it's in Montreal, Canada.
Montreal.
Quebec.
Quebec, Canada.
Olivier Aubon-Mercier.
Olivier, he fought in Montreal when we were there and then came to the restaurant afterwards.
What a nice guy.
Really?
Like a genuine sweetheart of a guy.
Really good jiu-jitsu. Super fucking strong bodied up bodied up speaking that speaking of chimps bodied up but
a super super friendly not like if you wanted to ask for like someone to represent mma to someone
who thinks that mma fighters are all thugs and assholes. Like, this young man is so polite and well-spoken and smart.
And he's just such a good guy.
And a really good fighter, too.
Really good.
Really good fighter.
You know what blew my mind is I got a chance to kind of hang out with Paul Felder a little bit.
Oh, great guy.
Great guy.
And a theater major in college.
Thank you very much.
So funny.
Smart.
Super smart.
Tough as shit.
Oh, my God.
Looks like he's all of 185 pounds right now.
Dude, he looks so... I said to him, I go, he looks like he's all of 185 pounds right now Dude He looks so
I said to him
I go
He looks like he's made
Like his bones are made of
What do you got there Jamie
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What do we got Jamie
Chakma
Chakma
It says it's one of the heaviest
And it at most weighs
About 99 pounds
Oh get that thing
Get that thing in my fucking face
99
I can't find one
You're not
A 99 pound male baboon
Ain't hearing a peep
Out of you
Ain't hearing a peep
Out of you
And good luck Keeping that mouth And that non-neck away from your face.
Well, you definitely don't want any of that.
Because believe me, I had a pit bull that was 90 pounds.
And he was a giant problem.
This dog, can I tell you, they ever tell you a time about he wanted to get at this dog,
so he bent the bars on my house, the wrought iron bars.
I had to get a bar welded across the perimeter of my
fence because he realized
that if he slams his fucking fire hydrant
head, ding, ding,
ding, in between the bars, he can
get them like that wide.
He's all head, right?
So a dog like that's all head. So once they get their
head through, he's like,
grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, grrr, head through and his body got through he bent the fucking bars like the hulk so i had this why did
you have that thing he's my bet his name is frank his name is frank he was a great name frank
sinatra frankie he was a beast i had to have a bar installed all around the perimeter of my yard
god damn and uh this israeli guy comes over to install it he goes what happened here I said the dog did it he goes the dog he goes how they do I go he did it
with his head it's like get the fuck out of here yeah looks over the dog loose
over the dog just sitting there he would hunt lizards all the way he would just
hunt lizard all goddamn day on the dog was a beast is look I am NOT a fan of
dog fighting I think it's a terrible, horrible thing.
But what they did is they engineered a super dog.
Yeah.
And that's what those things are.
They are not like regular dogs.
Would you give him that?
I got him from a breeder.
You like giving him creatine all the time and shit?
No, I didn't have to do anything with him, man.
He was a super genetic freak.
Those dogs are different than any other dog.
It's a man-made dog.
It's a man-made dog. It's a man-made dog.
They're so goddamn smart.
And loyal.
And they're so loyal.
And they love you so much.
But the game bred dogs.
They're like the most affectionate.
And the game bred dogs, you know, animals fight out of fear or dominance.
Game bred dogs fight because they literally enjoy it.
Oh, they wag their tails.
They're covered in blood, ripping each other apart, and they're wagging their tails, man.
I had a red nose, man.
I love pit bulls.
Dude.
I don't want one now that I have a kid, but we'll figure it out.
I've come home to dead dogs before.
God damn.
They fought to the death.
Frankie was killing things, too?
No, a female.
I had a female named Squeaky Fromm.
Remember her?
What was her name?
I'm the one who found her.
She's a coffee table with jaws.
She's a rescue dog, and she was so sweet.
I call her Squeaky Fromm because she had been there's an LA shelter that does not kill dogs
they try not to
that's awesome
and so
Brian told me
dude you gotta get this dog
you're retarded
I know you're retarded
I'm retarded too
come get this dog
because I can't get out of this dog
I go fuck
I'll be right over there
I knew the minute you saw her
so I drove down there
went down to the shelter
Olivier Aubameau-Morcier
with a takedown
real close
good defense
this is another rough
Why the
So anyway,
I go there and she's
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so sweet. She's such a sweet dog.
And she's literally chewed most
of her bottom teeth out
because she was trying to get out of this cage that they had
around her. She didn't have any of her little teeth
at the bottom of her mouth. So I go
fuck this. This dog's coming home with me.
How old was she?
She was about eight months old.
She was a beautiful dog.
Looked like an alligator with legs.
She was so sweet, man.
I love pit bulls, man.
She was such a sweet, sweet dog.
She was so kind to people.
But she killed two dogs.
Kills happen when you have that kind of dog.
And you never hear about a female killing a male dog.
It never happens. But listen. I can't female killing a male dog. It never happens.
But listen.
I can't go to a dog pound.
I'll walk away with 17 dogs.
Exactly.
I fucking love them.
I fucked up today and I went to one of those puppy mills.
With your kids?
At the mall.
Yeah, we walked in.
Did you buy one?
No.
No.
You don't want to buy one from them.
But it's disturbing.
You know, and just like maybe like 20 yards away from the puppy mill, they had a protest
sign and a table set up to not away from the puppy mill, they had a protest sign and a
table set up to not buy puppies from puppy mills.
And then Mrs. Fields was next to that.
How does that help at all?
It's confusing, right?
How does that help at all?
It's fucking confusing.
Mrs. Fields.
It's always like that.
It's like fucking Baskin Robbins.
There's a fucking weird table.
Save the whales.
Puppy mill.
Save the whales.
When did pretzels Become so popular
Right
I don't fucking like
Pretzels
The mall is filled
With pretzels
And Cinnabon
It's like one type of food
That you can guarantee
To always find at the mall
Pretzels
Panda Express
Cinnabon
Mrs. Fields
These buttery ass pretzels
There ain't no keto kids
In that fucking mall
I'll tell you that right now
All the shit that people
Are really that into
Olivier Au Bon Mercier But you know what I'll kill someone For a Cinn All the shit that people are really that into. Olivier Aubamecier.
But you know what?
I'll kill someone for a Cinnabon.
This is one thing, though.
People might...
Nice back control.
But people might not be into it, but the smell is super powerful.
The smell of this thing.
Oh, shit.
He's got him in the truck, dude.
Look at this.
Cinnabon.
Cinnabon, too.
Cinnabon.
Oh, he lost it.
Oh, he lost it.
Oh, God.
He just did.
He got tagged, man.
Oh, shit.
Aubamecier.
That cost him... Fuck, man. That might cost him the round. He's he got tagged, man. That cost him.
Fuck, man.
That cost him the round.
He's trying to keep it together.
This dude can ground and pound.
He's got a little time, though.
He's got a little time here.
Yeah, he does.
That was a big risk.
Good escape.
He didn't have control.
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That's a bad idea.
He let him spin out.
Wow.
Nice get up.
Yeah.
How often do commentators call the truck?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
It's one of those weird positions.
Very few people in the UFC play that game.
Oh, shit.
Oof.
I mean, you had Alan Belcher Almost twistering
Pajaras
I think
That and then
Korean Zombie
This dude's like
Tim Kennedy
He's a heavy
Muscle young man
Yeah he's very thick
What weight is it
70
Wow
No lightweight
What 55
Wow
That's a giant 55er
That's ridiculous
He must be 4'1
But those two fights
Those two fights
Weren't battles In the truck Yeah you're one Those two fights weren't battles in the truck
Yeah, there was no truck battles. Oh, they went straight to the twister. Yeah. Oh
Don't go straight back Oh Gaudi with the series. God. Yeah, he's good Gaudi's a killer
You gotta work on running backwards. Good fight, man.
Go ahead, buddy.
That's my boy, Frank Grillo.
Purge 3.
You love the Purge.
I love Frank Grillo.
Who criticizes the Game of Death or Thrones, whatever it is?
I know.
Game of Thrones.
You fucking criticize the Game of Thrones.
Nine days a week, you would love the Purge.
The Purge could actually happen. There are no fucking dragons.
It's our good friend Frank Grillo.
Go peace, we could talk shit about you.
My boy right there.
Fucking dragons.
Fucking dragons.
Go see Frank Grillo.
Go see Frank Grillo and the Purge.
Oh my God.
I'm not thrilled with this season at all, man.
Game of Thrones?
Oh my God, they're setting it up, dude.
You don't feel it?
Yeah, they're setting it up.
Listen, this is how it goes. Do you follow it? I do. There's. They're setting it up, dude. Yeah, they're saying yeah, they gotta listen to stop
Oh, I do there's these long it but there's gonna be some long periods where they're setting up some chaos
Yeah, it's like the Red Wedding. Yeah, they went through the Red Wedding. They set everything up like where's this going?
They're like Jesus when it ends you like what the right? Well, no, it's going down. They only have two more episodes, right?
I like yes two more episodes. I like that the girl
who has no name,
she's becoming a savior.
She's gone through the fire.
A little upset at how quickly
she heals up from getting stabbed, though.
Me too, me too.
You can't take that many shots to the stomach.
That came out after my surgery, and I'm thinking
bullshit. Listen, all I'm asking is
just try a little magic. That's all.
Can you give her a little magic?
That's all.
How about the actress had some fucking magic dust that she had laying around?
They took some huge, huge steps.
Jon Snow coming back from the dead.
Yeah.
That's almost show suicide.
They get away with it and here's why.
There's a rumor that Jon Snow might be...
Hey, easy.
What the fuck?
I don't want any spoiler alerts.
No, no, no. I don't want to hear a goddamn word you're saying. No, no, no, no. Don't
you spoil this thing. You're right. You're right. You're right, you son of a bitch. I
heard it. I heard it. I don't want to hear shit. I think that's what... Let me tell you
something. Here's a good example why spoiler alerts fucking suck. You know what I saw the
other night, man? What? 10 Cloverfield Lane. Good. I saw you tweet about it. Holy shit.
It's good. It's fucking crazy. Really?
I don't fuck the reviewers.
That movie was crazy. I want to see it.
I didn't have to tell you about it because I saw it and loved it.
I loved it.
John Goodman's in that?
Dude, John Goodman is one of the best actors ever.
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He's amazing.
You are.
Ever.
For playing a crazy motherfucker.
Think about him from The Big Lebowski.
Think about him from this movie.
King Ralph?
Dude, when he plays crazy,
he plays crazy
at a level where I go,
this motherfucker
knows what that means.
Remember him in
Barney,
what was that movie
that the Coen brothers
were in?
Flintstones, son.
No.
Not Barney,
but Barton Fink.
He's Barney in Flintstones.
Yeah, he is.
But Barton Fink,
he was amazing.
Don't ever say Barney.
I was crunk about that.
I fucking love that movie.
He was so good in Flintstones.
That's hilarious.
But he's a bad motherfucker, dude.
I'm telling you, he gets to this crazy place, this edge of reality that you go, wow.
Damn, I want to watch it tonight.
He seems so crazy that you're like, man, you have to really be crazy to act this crazy.
He's felt those thoughts in his head, right?
You know, that's the issue with Brad Pitt.
Like he plays like bad guys, but I don't think he has a bad thought in his head.
John Goodman does.
Yes.
Johnny Depp too, obviously.
Yeah.
He'll hit you.
We should all hope that John Goodman does very well in life and never fails and never
gets to the point where he's in a position
where he's got nothing to lose
and decides he wants to kill you.
Because there's a thing that that guy knows about
and he puts it in these characters.
That exists in his head. He just has to water it.
He's got a spree shooter
just dying to get out.
His size though, I'll just run.
Unless he's got a gun.
You gotta see this movie, man.
I'm still marveling over Aubamec's body.
I wasn't that thrilled about the ending, though.
Man, it was wild.
Out of nowhere.
Let's not say a word about it.
Because I don't want to.
Oh, thank you, sir.
I'm all over that.
I want to see.
I want to say a word about it.
What was the other movie?
It said Deus Maxina?
Maxina?
Oh, Ex Machina.
Amazing, right?
That's great.
Dude, I just saw Prometheus for the first time.
Thank you, sir.
That movie's fucking dope.
It's been out for six years.
That movie's dope.
The first five minutes was awesome.
Prometheus left me feeling like, I don't know, man.
The movie was so good.
Alien was so good.
The first one with Ridley Scott.
Goddamn, Aliens?
That's a work of art.
Amazing.
How about that?
That's Prometheus.
Yeah, but Aliens is one of the best movies of all time. Yeah.
That's what I'm saying. You set a high standard, my man.
I know. I was trying to be entertaining. But it was so
good. It was so good that if you think
of this one as being the prologue to
Aliens. Is that what it is? What's it called? No, it was
previewed. Prequel. The prequel?
Was it a prequel? Yeah, they're making another one too.
But the prologue is the right word.
I loved it. No, prologue's the
end. Yeah, butlogue's the end.
Yeah, well, what happened in that?
Was Prometheus set before the alien movie?
Yeah, I think as it ended, it was like... It was before, right?
How it got an alien.
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Yeah, because the aliens were still fucking...
I don't remember.
But still, anytime you have those aliens,
those were some of the scariest monsters the world's ever known.
God.
Because when you think about bugs, man,
you think about like a wasp.
Like, there was a fucking yellow jacket by my pool the other day.
Terrifying.
I outweigh that thing by a million percent.
Still terrifying.
I was horrified.
So scared.
I was horrified.
So scared.
I was horrified.
My kids were screaming.
My dog ran away.
The kids were screaming.
Pull up the Japanese yellow wasp.
Brian told me about some wasp, a Pepsi wasp.
The Pepsis. This thing melts your face wasp. A Pepsi wasp? A Pepsi.
It's a drink.
This thing melts your face off.
Yeah, the tarantula hawk.
The tarantula hawk.
What?
Melts your face off.
Wait a minute.
The tarantula hawk?
It's called the tarantula hawk because they kill and eat tarantulas.
If you get stung, it's the most painful sting in the animal kingdom.
You will fall down.
Yeah, you're going to fall down.
Look at the size of that fucking thing.
You'll fall down screaming. That's of that fucking thing You'll fall down screaming
That's what nightmares are made of
It's like getting shot with a.45
That's a tarantula hawk
We're going to kill a tarantula
And they're in LA and they're in Los Angeles
Wait, wait, wait
What?
They're indigenous to LA, to Arizona
Yes sir, to Utah
They're all over the Americas
There's no tarantulas here
Yes there is
Dude, I killed a tarantula in my yard once accidentally
Every day, son
I got out of my house once, it was at night time
And I was walking towards my car
And I heard a crunch
And I looked down, and I had a tarantula the size of a fucking blue crab
Under my foot
I was like, you gotta be shitting me.
It was like my hand.
It was huge.
It was a huge tarantula.
And I'm barely exaggerating.
They're everywhere.
I'm barely exaggerating.
Lying a little bit.
Lying a little bit.
It was big, man.
Bring up Japanese yellow wasp.
I'm telling you, dog.
Some guy died from getting stung from a Pepsi wasp.
Pepsis.
Pepsis.
Do I call it Pepsi?
No, man.
No, I change it.
He's allowed to change it.
Of course, don't call it it.
Who decides what names they have?
I agree.
Here's the Mac fatty.
What the fuck is that?
That's a Japanese yellow wasp.
We get the syringes off their ass.
They'll melt your face.
Japanese yellow what?
The guy was doing a weed whacker.
Moth? Wasp. A guy was doing a weed whacker. Moth? Wasp.
A guy was using a weed whacker.
They thought, they were like, that guy's a threat.
Six of them landed on his face,
melted his old face, his face,
and he died. He died. Melted, son.
Went to heaven. What do you mean by melted?
Melted. Apparently, look what it does
to your flesh. Look at that.
Oh my god.
Any more questions? Let's read this.
The Asian hornet is nearly two inches long with a three-inch wingspan, slightly smaller
than the European hornet, but much more aggressive.
Can kill 40 bees in a minute.
Oh, my God.
One Asian hornet can kill 40 bees in a minute.
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A handful can destroy a hive of 30,000 bees in a couple hours.
Yeah.
Any more questions, huh?
By the way, five hundo.
Hey, five hundo to a nest.
Nah, fuck these things.
They only live 55 days.
Well, have you ever seen the video of them going through a bee colony and chopping off
all their heads?
You know what's weird?
I have.
Dude, look at this.
It's insane.
They scare off intruders by sending a lone worker hornet to warn them. If that fails, the workers attack en masse, which is French for as a fucking group.
Do you know how bees figured out how to kill them when one of those workers gets into their nest?
What bees will do, because now they know what's going to happen, they cover them.
And they overheat them.
They cover them and they beat their wings.
Smart little bastard. Until they heat this littleat them. They cover them and they beat their wings. Smart little bastard.
Until they heat this little fucker.
They cook him.
Look at that poor person right there.
But they realize that they have to do it.
They realize that that is the only way for them to stop the assault.
Isn't that crazy?
It's nuts.
Somehow or another they got that information that one of these fuckers comes in here.
You have to cover it and heat it up.
That's some Iron Man 3 shit.
Yeah.
It's nuts, man.
Do you think that they...
Whoa, I'll bomb Marseille with the Root Naked.
Do you think they figured that out
because they barely paid attention to these fights?
Whoa!
Do you think they figured that out
because they just know that that's their natural enemy
and they just kill one when they see him
and if there's not a bunch of them,
they just do what they have to do to try to kill it?
Or do you think they know the heat?
Yeah, do you think they know...
Well, do you think they know that if they don't kill it, more are coming? I would imagine. How just do what they have to do to try to kill it. Or do you think they know the heat? Yeah. Well, do you think they know that
if they don't kill it, more are coming? I would
imagine. How the fuck do they know that? They have to have learned.
They learned that, right?
So when you kill crocodiles,
if they want to clear an area of crocodiles,
this is really weird, if you kill a crocodile
and you kill every crocodile that comes in
that area, after a while,
crocodiles will avoid that area.
They will pass it down.
They'll pass that information down to their brethren.
Yeah.
We don't even know what that is.
They communicate.
Well, there's something going on genetically, probably.
Yes.
100%.
Elephants.
Elephants will remember watering holes and droughts that they were exposed to as babies
60 years ago.
So they'll lead the entire herd to a watering hole some, you know, 20 miles away.
That's insane.
Yeah.
Did you guys hear they're saying octopus are the smartest animal now on earth?
More than us?
No, not more than us.
Hey, easy.
Step.
Hey, obviously we're number one.
But number two octopi.
They're not smarter than dolphins.
You got to tap.
You got to tap.
No, they're saying they're smarter than dolphins.
He got it.
What?
They're smarter than dolphins?
That's what I'm hearing.
Really?
That's what I'm hearing.
They probably are. Well, I definitely saw that there was this thing. He got it. What? They're smarter than dolphins? That's what I'm hearing. Really? That's what I'm hearing. They probably are.
Well, I definitely saw that there was this thing.
Didn't you see Finding Dory?
Fuck no.
I didn't see that, but I did see a thing about how powerful they are and how unusual they
are and that they're almost alien.
They have more chromosomes than any other animal that we've ever observed.
Three hearts.
What a fight, dude.
What a fight.
And they can read the attitude of a person, like what they're trying to do to them, I
heard.
They also can regenerate limbs.
They're smart.
Their eyeballs are like ours.
Isn't that true?
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They can read faces.
I know they can read faces.
We've done this on the podcast before.
I know.
I'm just saying they're the smartest animal.
Oh, no.
More shit came out, though.
He's too strong.
Speaking of octopus, look at him strangle this human.
Oh, dude.
Nice segue.
Boom.
He's too strong.
He's too strong. Olivier Aubon-Mercier. He's also very skillful. Super skillful. He's got human. Oh, dude. Nice segue. Boom. See? He's too strong. He's too strong.
Olivier Aubon-Mercier.
He's also very skillful.
Super skillful.
He's got the fat ears, yo.
The other guy's very strong, too.
Those are the biggest ears I've ever seen in my life.
I was watching a video of a guy-
He's an elf.
He's a human elf.
I was watching a video of a guy draining a cauliflower ear, and I was impressed up until
I saw the syringe that they pulled out of Eddie Bravo's body.
I'm like, okay.
Dude.
Where'd they stick that?
They went through my stomach. Through the dick hole. I'm like, okay. Dude, where'd they stick that? They went through my stomach, opened up my stomach, pulled my guts to the side, worked on my...
No, when they drained you, I mean, when they drained you.
Well, when they sewed me up, a week later, it started swelling, man.
It got really big.
I thought, fuck, man, maybe there's a tear on the inside.
Yeah, look at that.
Maybe I had a hernia.
Why is it black? Oh, my God. So I went into the doctor. I thought, fuck, man, maybe there's a tear on the inside. Goddamn, look at that. Maybe I had a hernia. Why is it black?
Oh, my God.
So I went into the doctor.
I'm like, something's wrong.
I got this massive swelling on the scar.
The scar healed, but under it was massive swelling, right?
That's fat as Hulk Hogan's dick.
That's my favorite part.
That was all right above my dick.
Eddie, serious question.
You got any more painkillers?
Huh, bro?
Somebody remembers. I'm Jones they're
not even that good
Norco shit Norco they didn't give you
the right guy they didn't give you the
good shit yeah Norco's that's what's a
Norco's that's like Vicodin or some
shit oh that's you need that oxycon I
thought that's the goodest shit ever
chop up you snort it did a lot of people
are texting me dude be careful about those oxys.
Don't get hooked, bro.
They are horrible.
Yeah.
Wow.
They're terrible for your body.
I'm worried about it.
Fuck yeah.
Brendan Garth.
I'm not going to get hooked.
Most addictive thing in the world.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't have a physically addictive body.
I don't get addicted to shit.
Hmm.
I don't.
Cut to Eddie.
Otherwise, I'd be rubber bandber band. Dick hanging out.
Shooting it.
Eyes rolled back.
The oxy gets you, man.
You'd think I'd be a raging alcoholic.
I mean, I've been drinking since I was a kid.
Yeah, that'd mean you're an alcoholic.
First science admitting it.
I'm an alcoholic.
If you've been drinking every day since you were a kid, yeah.
I didn't say every day.
Well, that's what's happening. Yeah, you had it every day and it made it sound way better.
It's a way to do it for comedy.
It's a way to do it.
I like to exaggerate.
Yeah, no.
It's definitely, for some people, it's obviously like a biological thing.
Dude, when you can't sleep at night because you can't get comfortable because you had back surgery and you can't get, it sucks.
You want to take whatever the fuck.
I was taking stars of death.
That shit worked better than anything.
Joey came by, dropped me off a bag.
And it doesn't kill the pain.
I never thought weed killed pain for me.
I've never, you know, people say that all the time.
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For me, I'm like, it doesn't kill pain.
It makes me focus on the pain.
But them stars of death.
You take enough.
Holy shit.
What happens is the pain's still there but you're so
stoned that you don't give a shit
you just want to nap
you probably start acting all extra stuff
like your back doesn't hurt though
then I start thinking
what the fuck am I complaining about
there's refugees that are sleeping on cement
and asphalt in fucking Ecuador
you know what I mean
I'm like all of a sudden like I'm a king right here
Yeah, shit right out doesn't weed make you feel like really thankful
Yes
We'd makes me feel super thankful. Do you know what I think about every show better?
This is can watch teen mom or blown away or not. I can't believe you smoke weed now
That's there's that night. There are two things that
One is getting into a zone. We can't talk over smoke weed now. Just at night. There are two things that make me feel thankful.
One is getting into a warm bed.
We can't talk over each other.
This is never going to work.
When I get into a warm bed,
and I know that nobody's going to be knocking on my door
to take me for a walk because of my political point of view,
I feel lucky that I get to sleep, and then...
What the fuck?
This is what happens when you grow up
with a super conservative family.
I know, dude.
And a four bed is on while you sleep.
Brian, go night-night.
We're going to put Fox News on right by your bed.
This is your favorite thing to sleep to.
No, but just in history, governments have always done what they wanted to their people.
We live in America.
Wake me up when the Megyn Kelly show's on.
Hey, man, wake me up.
You're in a gated community in Caledonia.
I know, but then when I feed my kids, I know it sounds weird, but I have enough food. I keep man, wake me up. You're in a gated community in Caledonia. I know, but... And then when I feed my kids,
I know it sounds weird,
but I have enough food.
I keep waiting for it to end.
He used to stay up,
because remember how TVs,
at one point in time,
they would just...
The TV would stop.
There were no more shows.
Yeah.
It would just end,
and they would play
the fucking Star Spangled Banner.
Brian would stay awake
waiting for that.
I'd hold my heart.
I'd hold my heart.
I'll tell you what I did think about.
Powerful Gary Goodridge.
Powerful Gary Goodridge.
He has some CT there.
Yeah, he does.
Yeah, unfortunately, man.
They're saying he said that.
Hey, he looked cool right there.
You know what he said?
He said he got most of his real damage from fighting in K-1.
Yeah, no shit, Sherlock.
Yeah, I mean, he fought a lot of fights in K-1.
And he fought them really close together, too.
Giant head. Real tough fights, man. He fought them really close together, too. Giant head.
Real tough fights, man.
He fought some really tough guys, man.
Are you kidding me?
Gary Goodrich?
Jesus, yeah.
I remember when Gary Goodrich fought the guy who was the Krav Maga instructor for the Israeli
Special Forces, and he was this big stud with blue eyes.
Was that in the UFC?
Yeah.
Was that Moti Hornstein?
Yeah.
Powerful memory.
Dude, look at this fucking Brock Lesnar.
Whatever anybody says about fucking pot ruining your memory
No, you got this suck it. Yeah. What how is Brock Lesnar gonna come back and fight mark? Huh? Isn't that insane?
I mean saying it's almost feel I really do almost feel like UFC 200 is too insane
I almost feel like it's so insane. It's almost too much. It's almost too much
It's almost too much to handle my weak ass much for me to handle. It's like my weak-ass bitch. It's like old school prides. Bitch heart. Can't handle it.
Can't handle it.
I agree.
It's too much awesomeness.
Twice a year, make a Super Bowl-type card.
You know what I mean?
It's almost too much stuff.
Twice a year.
Even the Super Bowl.
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I'll tell you what.
If third highest in UFC history, 55% takedown accuracy.
Yeah.
If he grabs Mark, he puts him on his back.
He fights.
That's true.
But still.
That's true.
That's like a percentage. He's not going to get tested, right? That's not really. He's not going to get tested. No, no, no. Monus back. That's true. But still. That's true. That's like a percentage.
He's not going to get tested, right?
That's not really.
He's not going to get tested.
No, no, no.
He's absolutely going to get tested.
Only the four weeks.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
He's exempt from the four months in advance rule, which means you have to be tested up
until four months in advance.
This deal came together so quickly that they didn't make the, there's just no way they
could have that because
they weren't even talking to him four months ago.
No, it's true. They weren't talking to him
for doing this fight four months ago. You think Brock
literally went from zero training... I'm not saying that.
From zero training, didn't think he was going to fight at all
to four weeks before being like, I'll take it.
I'm saying that this deal,
like him getting signed to fight, did not
happen until recently.
It was a very recent thing.
They were trying to make UFC 200 crazier after Conor and Nate fell off.
True.
True.
This is where all this came from.
They had to make this look.
I can't talk about it because I know too much of the inside stuff of what they had to do to make it work out.
But it was an ordeal.
This was an ordeal to pull off.
The Nate-Conor thing?
No, this Brock Lesnar thing. It is an exceptiondeal. This is an ordeal to pull off. The Nate Conner thing? No, this Brock Lesnar thing.
It is an exception, though, Joe.
WWE, because he's still wrestling for the WWE.
This is a crazy deal.
It was not an easy thing to pull off.
So he's not going to get tested.
He's tested now.
He is.
He just doesn't have to do the full.
They're not going to test.
They weren't testing him four months ago.
Exactly.
Like every other person in the world.
Exactly.
He's the exception.
But why did, can I ask you, why did
Brock, I feel your point, man.
But if you're going to make exceptions for him, you've got to do it for other guys.
Well, here's the deal, right?
This is the argument against it.
The argument against it is you've got to say, listen,
if you want to make this legitimate, you
should have no question whatsoever that your
athletes are clean and compliant.
And that means four months
out. But how are you not going to make this fight?
Like if you're a promoter and there's no way you can test a guy from four months ago,
but you say, listen, we can test him right now.
We test him right now.
Do we have an exemption?
Okay, if he's on steroids right now, we're fucked and we're done and his deal's over, right?
But if he's clean, he says he's clean, let's fucking do it.
Let's use the exemption.
No, I get it.
For entertainment and pay-per-view numbers, it makes 100%.
But if you're going to say, hey, Conor, we don't make exceptions for anyone.
Brock Lesnar, here's an exception, brother.
And from a WWE background.
It's a different kind of exception.
You're still making exceptions.
No, because you're making an exception to what happened in the past before the deal.
You're not making an exception as far as what you have to do from here on out in terms of promotion and in terms of what's
agreed upon by the promoter and the athletic what's agreed about but this is
just talking so let's say I know what let's say I want to come back right now
I have to give them a four month advance and they have to test me or you're a big
enough star where they use their exemption so then it so then anyone
fighter in the keynote no if you don't know that you're gonna fight until right a big enough star where they use their exemption. So then anyone can use exemption?
No. If you don't know that you're
going to fight until right before you're going to fight.
Let's put it this way.
I'm not necessarily in favor. You might be
an impulsive person. I don't know.
Let's just say you're like Brendan Chobb.
You're a pretty crazy guy. If someone
came along and maybe a year and a half from now
you're fucking still ketoed up
and you and Tony Jeffries are hitting the pads
every day and you're feeling frisky when you're
rolling with Hennon Burrell
or Hennon Gracie. Hennon Burrell.
What the fuck? Mixing up my Brazilian
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awesome dudes. If you
did that and you said, fuck it, man. I want to come
back. If the fighter in the kid blows up
and you're getting 20 million downloads a month
and everything is happy
and fascinating and you just go, I need something else.
I need a fucking challenge.
I want to fight.
And then Dana White calls you up and he's smoking a cigar on the phone.
Listen here, Brendan.
You're crazy.
I got a deal for you, kid.
And then you just say, fuck it.
I'm crazy.
I'm going to try.
They don't make that exemption.
Maybe they would.
If you're famous as Brock Lesnar.
Yeah.
You listening to me?
Brock fucking Lesnar. You got to make it. I'm telling you, you're famous as Brock Lesnar. You listening to me? Brock fucking Lesnar.
You gotta make it.
I'm telling you're batshit crazy if you think Brock didn't know he was going to fight for this.
You might be correct.
And also, coming from a WWE where guys are notoriously known for taking steroids, it's a little fishy.
Well, it's definitely not ideal when you're trying to promote this sport as being absolutely
tested, right? Because you have this little weird
gray area that you introduced.
It's more entertainment than sport.
But as a fan, it's criminal
to not make this fight.
It is criminal. I want to
see it, but I feel you.
Mark Hunt's been tested. Yes, he has.
I understand you, and I agree
with you. I'm not mad at four months. And I agree with you.
I'm not mad at it, though.
I'm just saying if you make certain exceptions, then it's a weird gray area.
But why would Brock Lesnar, I mean, with all due respect to him.
Let's take a moment of silence.
How about a fucking round of applause, man?
That guy had a real life.
That's a movie right there.
That's a blockbuster movie.
There he got the script.
There's a real man.
There he got the script There he got the script
And he was a real good dude
Great guy
I always enjoy
Who would play Kimbo?
Who's gonna play Kimbo?
Nobody
Me?
I'm gonna go Robert Downey Jr.
And spray paint my face
No you do it like
You do it like Jurassic Park
You just get a computer
To make images of Kimbo
And you get some dude
Who's really good at doing Kimbo
You don't can't have an actor
No
You don't think so?
No you use a real Kimbo
You don't think you can get
You know what?
You can get Michael Jai White That. You don't think so? No, you use a real Kimbo. You don't think you can get... You know what? You can get
Michael Jai White. That'd be perfect.
How dare you? Come on.
What? He grew up here.
That's a good call. He grew up here. No, it's not.
He looks nothing like him. The best actor in the world.
Michael Jai White could pull it off.
Michael Jai White played Tyson.
He played Tyson. He's tough.
He's good. He pulled off Tyson. Come on.
You don't think he pulled off Tyson? He was the Spawn.
How dare you?
He was Spawn.
No, I liked him in Spawn.
He definitely pulled off Spawn.
Fuck you, he pulled off Spawn.
One of my favorite movies.
Mind your P's and Q's around him, please.
Dude, he can totally pull it off.
He'll throw some bones at your face.
Okay, let me just say, let's just stop all that nonsense.
And let's just say, Michael Jai White is a cool motherfucker.
Great guy.
I'm a big fan of him as a person and as an actor.
And as Spahn.
He's a great dude.
He can play Kimbo.
I think there's some other guys who can do it.
He's built for it.
Yeah.
He's certainly built for it.
He's fucking giant.
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He's jacked as fuck.
Hey, hey.
Mind your P's and Q's, man.
Fuck you.
Listen, man.
He's a good dude and a legit martial artist.
Yeah.
Michael Jai White came to Legends.
He beat the shit out of Brian.
He threw a hopping sidekick at the bag.
Granted, this bag, the chain would break all the time.
Turning sidekick.
No, this one, I don't even think it was a turning sidekick, dude.
A turning sidekick.
Are you sure?
I thought it was a hopping sidekick.
He's a big guy.
Toughest throw around.
Either way, whatever the kick it was, he's got perfect technique.
Michael Jai White has perfect kicking technique.
His sidekick is laser sharp, he extends his foot,
he holds it out there and pulls it back,
legit, very high level black belt Kyo Kishin karate guy.
You don't kick. You kick next to him.
So you mind your P's and Q's. If you see him in a bar,
you buy him a drink and you thank him for his work.
No, I thank him for his spot and then it stops there.
Yeah, no, you thank him for everything.
Wait a minute, hold on a second. Brian, let me ask you this.
Do you think that you,
at 170 pounds of supple glory...
And I'm supple.
I'm a leopard.
Keep going.
Do you think that you can kick
as hard as Shob can
even though Shob doesn't kick?
No.
No.
No, I don't think...
I tried to grab...
Shob and I...
Shob and I...
Shob and I tried to...
Interesting.
Yesterday, yesterday...
You thought for sure
you were going to say yes? Yesterday, yesterday, I said to Brendan Shob and I tried to. Interesting. Yesterday, yesterday. You thought for sure he was going to say yes?
Yesterday, yesterday I said to Brendan Schaub, and I was half serious.
We came out.
We did this real fun press thing, and he grabbed me around my torso,
and I said, oh, my back, my back, please, and I tapped immediately.
And then I said, I got something happened.
Maybe it was too much coffee.
Maybe it was too much coffee.
And I said, and I was half serious, maybe even 70% serious. I go, I got, something happened. Maybe it was too much coffee. Maybe it was too much coffee. And I said, and I was half
serious, maybe even 70%
serious. I go, I was a wrestler.
I don't like the way it came at me.
We're in the middle of the street on the Abbot County, by the way.
Yeah, I'm a man. And by the way,
I'm in shape. I box, I play tennis.
I said, if I didn't want you to,
you're not getting me in a body lock.
Oh my God. That's hilarious.
You play tennis. No, tell him what That's hilarious. Yeah. Well, my-
No, tell him what you did with your phone.
Hey, he put his phone and wallet on top of his car.
On top of my car.
And then go, take it from there.
Take it from there.
I put my phone in my wallet on top of my car.
This is the best part, Joe.
And then we engage.
We engage.
I try a couple arm drags.
I get some wrist control.
What?
I get some wrist control.
Arm drags?
Arm drags.
He tries to head me
he tries to
kind of throw
a headlock on me
I bowl my neck
I bowl my neck
and then
and then he got
two on one
on my wrist
he got both his hands around
and he goes
he goes
oh let me get two on one
that's a big mistake
he whispered
and then I felt
I felt his explosive power
and he put me into a body lock.
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And then I began to immediately squeal like a pig.
But this is the best part.
And then I go, all right, bro, I'll meet you at the lunch place.
He drives off, leaves his phone and walk on top of his car, and he ran over his iPhone.
See, this is the thing, Brian.
I sure did.
As an objective person, this is why this is so disturbing to me.
I know what I can do to you, and then I know what he can do to me.
That doesn't make
sense to me. Because I'm like, I've
gotten a hold of you before, and you feel
relatively helpless.
Hold on, I'm a pretty good wrestler, bro.
I'm a good...
Look at Brian's phone.
It's a true story.
He shows the phone on his
Instagram. And then he goes to Apple, and they charge him $1,000 for a new phone.
$1,000 mistake.
He goes, bro, that thing cost me $1,000.
This story's worth five grand.
I'll pay you five grand for this story.
Of course.
Yeah, it was.
You got hustled at iPhone.
Oh, come on, man.
How could you really think that you could grapple with him?
Because I'm good on my feet.
Oh, Brian.
This is weird.
I know it is.
I know it is. It's sad.
It's weird.
Just don't do this.
Just don't do this.
I'm going to stick to my guns, and I'm going to say, if I get round two, he's going to
Do you remember that time when you tried to pull my bow back?
You know that bow that I shoot a hundred arrows a day?
I don't remember, bro.
I don't remember.
There was a brick wall that God put in front of the strings.
It just was not moving.
Listen, bro, I'm having wine.
I don't remember what you're talking about.
But there's a strangeness to this humor
because I know part of it is humor.
It's the best, though.
But the strangeness is there's a whisper of truth.
You're different than this one?
I am 100% convinced that Shab is too big and too strong
for me to grapple with him. But you're not. No, no, no, I am. You convinced that Shab is too big and too strong for me to grapple with him.
But you're not.
No, no, no.
I am.
You're not, though.
You're not, really.
There's a whisper.
See, if me and Shab are rolling, I'm thinking, how long can I survive?
Yeah.
And whether or not I could, is it possible to get him so tired and to survive long enough
that I could catch him?
Yeah.
I get him so tired. Yeah. Because he's could catch him. Yeah. I get him so tired.
Yeah.
Because he's so much bigger.
Yeah.
And he's so strong.
And by the way, I like to stick my finger in the cage and poke the bear.
I think that's what it is.
Yeah, but that's weird.
But the weird thing is, I don't think you're totally aware.
No, I am.
Of what you can and can't do.
No, no.
I'm very aware.
That might be why it's so great.
It's not true.
It's not true.
There's a little weirdness there. No, no, no. I'm very aware of how badly I could get beat up and I felt it. No, no. I'm very aware. That might be why it's so great. It's not true. It's not true. There's a little weirdness there.
Nope.
I'm very aware of how badly I could get beat up, and I felt it.
I felt it.
I've been put in bad positions by him, by other guys, by boxing, all that.
Have you ever hugged Dan Henderson?
That's a very uncomfortable feeling.
He's made of wood.
I've never had.
Shake hands with him.
It's so funny that you say that.
That's exactly what Ryan Parsons, who trained him forever, said.
Really?
He said he would have to do deep tissue on him, like rub him down after a fight.
He said he'd be exhausted.
He's like, he's made out of a different thing.
He's got a Simeon strength.
There's nobody more.
He's got his head, everything about him.
Or fucking Hector Lombard, the guy he just fought.
Give that guy a handshake.
Dude, I actually think Dan Henderson can get a title shot.
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Oh, I hope so.
Believe me, the kid was not...
I'm not the kid.
You're the kid.
You're kind of the kid.
Thank you.
I don't know what I am.
No, it's Keto, kid.
Me, person.
I was lobbying for that.
Me, person.
I called Dana up.
I said, dude, let's talk about this.
Really?
Come on.
And then I text you.
Is that for reals?
No, I'm just trying to hype this thing up.
What could be a better, more exciting fight
to see than
Bisping Hendo 2?
And they both
walk away.
Then you got
Weidman Rockhold 2.
I feel like Jacare
as a fan
is disappointing me
that he doesn't
just step aside
and let this fight happen.
As a goddamn
human being,
get the fuck
out the way.
I agree.
As a fan,
Jacare,
you're next, bro.
100% sit down for now. Lift weights. How a fan, Jacare, you're next, bro.
100%. You got this.
Sit down for now.
Lift weights.
How about we won't even drug test you for like a month?
Yeah.
All the outside you can handle.
Well, he's got to have torn MCL or something.
Do fucking yoga.
Who cares?
Do fucking whatever you want.
Please, just let this fight happen.
Please.
And then you're next.
I agree.
And then Weidman and Rockhold have a rematch.
Yes.
Come on.
Intern belt.
Boom.
Both guys just lost. Weidman wants it. rematch. Yes. Come on. Interim belt. Boom. Both guys just lost.
Weidman wants it.
Rockhold wants it.
Come on.
No interim belts.
It's too easy.
They're throwing away too many interim belts.
No, no, no.
Look at that tattoo.
I want Bisbee and Dan.
They both retire after that.
And then Rockhold and Weidman fight for the belt.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Or Jacare Weidman.
Or Jacare Rockhold.
No, no.
Weidman.
Hold on.
Hold on.
This guy looked at stained glass and got a tattoo.
The worst tattoos of all time.
He's a radio guy.
Wow.
Really?
Yeah, he's got a morning show.
That's a body for radio.
I believe a sports show.
By the way, Steve Boss is a cutie pie.
Really fucking, really good guy, really nice guy, and really fucking tough guy.
And you know who he is?
Oh, yeah.
He's the hockey enforcer.
This motherfucker's had like 270 hockey fights.
Wow.
Gangster.
I think it was AAA hockey though.
It was in the NHL. What the fuck are you talking about?
Not in the NHL. Really?
No, I don't think so. Are you sure? I'm almost positive.
Yeah. Our producer
Evan the Cub is balls deep
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in hockey and he said he never played in the NHL.
Oh, okay. So either way.
Either way, he's a badass. He's a hockey bruiser.
High level hockey's insane.
And he's been winning fights.
This guy's the worst tattooed in the UFC.
How many fights has he won in the UFC so far, Jamie?
No, just two and one, right?
He got knocked out his first one, then won his last one.
He took his first fight on short notice and got stopped by someone.
Who stopped him?
Oh, Tiago Santos.
Tiago Santos is a beast.
Yeah, he's one and one in the UFC.
But then he beat James Tahuna.
Tahuna's legit, man.
Knocked him out. Knocked. Knock them out fast 52 seconds
Look at his fucking fights 30 strikes 52 boom. Oh this one's so was getting knocked out and O'Connell's gangster
Dude, I'm telling you O'Connell's got power hit him with a stained glass son
O'Connell's got power the stained glass in the titties use the Holy Ghost power and he stays in the pocket
I don't like what he's doing
Pull up his record Jamie
Very Roman Catholic
That stained glass tattoo I've never seen before
Yeah I haven't either it's a problem
It's an issue
It's freaking sick
Tell them I celebrate that shit
One guy's got a tan
Someone's getting knocked out
This fight ain't going past the second
Somebody's gonna get tired That is an odd choice of tattoos Someone's getting knocked out. This fight ain't going past the second. These guys are a little crazy.
That's it.
Somebody's going to get tired.
That is an odd choice of tattoos.
That's coming from a guy who has odd tattoos.
I have fucking odd tattoos.
Oh!
O'Connell's connected!
He's out!
He's out!
He's out!
Stained glass tattoos for the win!
Dude, how tough is Boss?
Wow.
He's hanging in there.
Powerful tan, Boss.
Oh!
Beautiful tan.
Beautiful fucking tan.
And then that. Something about those Canadians.
Then his hair's so.
He should let him back up and do it again.
100%, right?
Oh, no, man.
Keep beating on him.
What are you talking about?
This guy's almost done.
It's just in my experience in the octagon.
You don't have stained glass tattoos, Brian.
That's true.
You're going to knock him out against the cage right now.
When you're up, you've got a chance.
When you're down, you're only punching up.
God, that guy's tough.
Boss is tough. He just took a serious-
There's O'Connell, man.
O'Connell's got a nasty left hand, man.
He's just tough as shit.
He's just one of those Irish fucks that just doesn't wanna quit.
You don't have stained glass tattoos and they're tough as fuck.
You don't get that stuff.
Boom! Oh, Bossy just connected! I don't know if stained glass tattoos are not tough as fuck. Yeah. You don't get that stuff. Cause you know you're gonna get clowned on. BOOM!
Another hard left.
OOOH!
Bossy just connected!
Very...
Brawler-ish.
Am I saying his name wrong?
Bosey? Bossy?
Bossy.
Bossy's got some big legs.
Why am I thinking it's Bosey?
Take a look at the circumference of his thigh, sir.
Maybe we should change it.
Powerful tan by Bossy.
Go ahead and look at his-
Go ahead and look at the thighs on this kid.
Look at Bossy's thighs.
Let's call him the Bosey. The By's thighs. Let's call him the Bossy.
The Bossy.
Let's just call him the Boss.
No, let's call him his real name or he'll get mad.
Yeah.
I don't want him mad.
You think?
Just double-leg him, Joe.
Oh, come on.
He's a gangster.
Those are some big legs.
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That's hard to double-leg.
Look at how big his legs are.
Tell you right now, if this fight was on ice, your boy's fucked.
Well, that is an interesting thing, man, about hockey players, man.
They develop some serious balance.
Oh, my God.
O'Connell tags him again.
O'Connell's been doing,
he's ending his combinations with that left hand.
And that's where Bossy's getting caught.
Yeah, he's throwing punches and bunches,
and it's landing.
It's also, his accuracy is really good
while Bossy's moving.
Correct.
Moving back.
Yeah, catching and moving back.
That's not easy to do.
That's good timing.
Oof.
His tattoo artist.
Might want to call up Aaron De La Vadova.
Guru Tattoo, San Diego.
Might clean that shit up.
Mm-hmm.
More color, dog.
Like a Crayola box on that white skin.
Fucking... That's one good thing that white people have.
I know.
I can't do color. White people can do some amazing things. Fucking white skin. That's one good thing that white people have. I know. I can't do color.
White people can do some amazing things.
Fucking white people.
Like if you were a serious albino,
you could have some beautiful colors.
I know.
I have no color.
You're a white piece of paper.
I know.
White canvas.
Black dudes,
they can put tattoos everywhere, though.
I feel like they look better on them.
Somehow or another,
it's like a subtle thing. They should do white ink, though. It just doesn't take better on them. Somehow or another, it's like a subtle thing.
They should do white ink, though.
It just doesn't take to the skin, I guess.
No, it doesn't work.
It looks sick, though, right?
Oh, nasty.
Oh, dude.
See, with nasty left hands to the body.
Yeah, but it's interesting that the black eye covered in tattoos is a fairly new thing
culturally in this country, right?
Rappers, athletes.
Yeah.
I mean, but it's so common now.
It's interesting how it took off.
Like if you looked at black guys from like Muhammad Ali's era or Joe Frazier's era.
Zero tattoos.
Yeah, you're right.
But then look at like Deontay Wilder.
Yeah, you're right.
So many guys like that.
So many guys.
Well, tattoos were subversive up until really the 90s.
Sailors, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah, body art was always considered subversive and weird.
Decoration. Yeah. sailors i mean you know yeah body art was always considered subversive and weird decoration
yeah and you had to be you know kind of on and you had to be a criminal or like something or
yeah something you know you had to be a sailor you had to be on the on the outskirts of society
to have a tattoo yeah even an earring i remember i told my dad i got an earring as a joke when i was
16 on the phone no i didn't brendan no i didn't brend No, I didn't, Brennan. No, I didn't, Brennan.
No, I didn't, Brennan.
Guys, don't fight.
Sorry.
You thought I was sick, too.
He's a bully.
That word we were talking about before the show.
You're trampling on my sensibilities.
That word is terrible.
That word is so silly.
That word is so silly.
It's used sometimes when people are just arguing with each other.
If one person's right, he's a bully.
Damn, bossy going for the takedown.
That's when you know shit hit the fan.
I don't know, man.
He's trying to mix it up.
He's trying to mix it up. He's trying to mix it up.
Dude, these guys are taking crazy shots to the head.
That boy is tired.
Good fight.
Damn, that tattoo is so colorful.
Yeah.
White people.
White fucking people.
Powerful canvases.
Dude, I love tattoos.
A lot of white people get the red ink these days.
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I see girls with red ink lately.
But that's iconography.
Oh, shit.
Oof.
God damn. What chaos, man. There's that left hand again. But that's iconography. Oh, shit. God damn.
Enjoy that left hook, son.
Damn. Jesus Christ.
And he still weathered the storm.
Incredible. Incredible. Powerful
tan. God damn. Look at his nose.
It's so... He can't breathe out of his nose.
He just broke it. That left hook broke that nose
for sure.
I don't know. Hockey might have done that.
Probably hockey, right? Hockey is some rough
fucking dudes.
Think about how many games
they play.
The cardio.
I used to train with
some professional hockey players.
They are fucking gangsters.
Dude.
They also party harder
than any professional athlete
I know.
Think about how stupid
noses are.
This weak ass little structure
in the middle of your face.
How stupid noses are.
All someone has to do
is smash it
and you're like
down to like 60% strength. All they have to do is destroy that thing. Do you think our noses are. All someone has to do is smash it, and you're down to 60% strength.
All they have to do is destroy that thing.
Do you think our noses are meant to be smashed, though?
Well, why is it there like that in this world full of bears?
Well, giraffes have noses.
Fucking chimpanzees.
They all have noses.
They got strong noses.
Try punching a giraffe, bitch.
It's eyes.
Eyes are what?
You can't really break a cat's nose, can you?
No.
You can punch a house cat right in the face and it'll kill you in your sleep.
Made to kill you with its face.
And their noses are all wet.
Holy fuck.
Oh my god, this fight is insane.
These fucking boys are sick.
Oh, O'Connell's about to go.
O'Connell's in trouble.
O'Connell's about to go.
When one of these guys shoots for a takedown, it's go time.
O'Connell just took a big deep breath, too.
Yeah, he looked exhausted.
He got hit with some hard shots.
Not good for his head.
Please don't go to the mat.
You know, and then that's a lot of that.
I'm not trying to see either of these guys grapple.
It's interesting when you see a guy come back while he's hurt,
because that's where you find out what kind of condition you're really in.
Correct.
How quickly can you come back while you're hurt?
Yeah.
Did you ever see the training Fedor used to do?
Oh, my God.
When he'd like to train
like he was wobbled.
No, he would fly around
in circles like he was
punched and then spar
or do running and shit.
God.
It was nuts.
Hey, man.
He needed that.
He needed that
against Maldonado.
That shit paid off
against Maldonado.
Well, you know,
he's a tough guy.
That paid off.
But I don't like the way
he approached that fight.
This is a guy who went
toe-to-toe with Crow Cop, okay?
I don't know what kind of testing they had him under.
Do you?
Do you have any idea?
Yeah, none.
Yeah, sir.
None.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Okay, it looks like Novitskiy likes to call the smell test.
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He smelled like BO and kettlebells to me.
Yeah.
It didn't smell like any steroids at all.
No, he smelled like cabbage and potatoes.
He looked like shit.
What is it?
What is it?
And then I love how people are like,
he's so close to coming to the UFC.
I don't give a fuck.
It's not 2007.
He would get ate the fuck up.
Before this fight,
I would have argued with you.
I know.
Me too.
I would have exposed him in a bit of a way.
But it also could be that he hasn't. When was the last time he competed?
How long ago was his last fight?
Not that far ago. Who'd he fight? He fought that
chump and beat the fuck out of him.
Who did he beat up? Some scrub.
Right. Who was it? Some pure scrub.
He fought Mickey Rourke in Russia.
And Mickey
went down.
Mickey got paid to go down. He might as well.
That's the line of the show.
Oh, yeah.
The Singh guy.
He had two fights.
He had two fucking fights.
Look at that before that.
Izzo.
He took that guy down and punched him until he tapped.
That was in December.
Yeah, it was a terrible fucking fight.
He's not fighting anyone.
So you come to the UFC.
Hey, we're going to test you unless you're Brock Lesnar.
You're going to get fucked up.
So Bossy's got to go.
Oh, my God. I got Bossy's got O'Connell on the ground.
I got Bossy on this fight.
Oh my God, this fight's crazy.
Ow, ow, ow.
Meaning he's going to finish him.
I think O'Connell's exhausted. O'Connell's strong, but he keeps that half guard.
Keep the half guard.
He's got the underhook.
Oh, Bossy with his own underhook on the leg.
Stops it.
Stops the pass.
Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Oh shit.
What?
Bossy's winning this fucking fight.
Damn, Bossy's tough as fuck, dude.
So tough.
He got fucked up.
This is a war, man.
Bossy's the tan gentleman on top.
Bossy's the one who looks like he should be hopping out of a cage.
Bossy looks like...
It's not Bossy.
It's Blosh.
Come on, man. Don't fuck with me
You didn't hear what I said
You didn't hear what I said
What'd you say
What'd you say
Hey look he should be
Jumping out of a cake
Bossy's the one
With the Hulk Hogan skin
The hot dog skin
Yeah that's him on top
Hot dog skin is hilarious
How funny is that
That's the Tannis
Best looking guys
Have hot dog skin
They all have hot dog skin
Right
Hulk Hogan looks like a hot dog
Dude hot dog skins the best expression ever. Why did you come up with that for a while ago? Oh wow. That's beautiful
That's I'd rather show you no relations. There's a few a few descriptions in my life that have really sunk home
Oh, oh bossy with the hammer fist. Oh, I was in trouble man Yeah he is He's in trouble O'Connell's losing this fight O'Connell's tough though
He's in a lot of trouble right here
He's also taking shots
He's exhausted
Well it's for sure one and one
I mean you say he's losing his fight
But this is a draw
I mean he's in trouble
No I agree
I think if someone said
Hey shot bet on this fight
I got Bossy
Okay
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I don't know man
Bossy Bossy
You fucking never know
With a dude like O'Connell
He's just so god damn tough
He finds a way to survive
He's one of these guys.
Bossy's 1-1. 1 30-second
knockout. 1 59-second knockout.
And the way he survived that onslaught.
His head snapped back. His eyes
rolled back. He bounced off the ground.
And he still got back up. Bossy should be
jumping out of a cake.
That's hilarious.
Not a lot of jiu-jitsu here.
Not a lot of high-level jiu-jitsu here. Oh, look at this. Just stand the fuck up.
Not a lot of high level jiu-jitsu here.
It just went to the 100% to control the position.
I wish they would stand up and blast each other in the face.
I sound like a fan with a tap out shirt on.
Bossy's got giant-
Here we go.
Here we go.
What's the new tap out shirt?
Fire in the Kid.
Oh my god, you're right.
They're everywhere.
They are everywhere.
I see them all the time on my shows.
Oh shit, this is a war.
Knee to the body.
Dude, you got that fucking Cowherd guy wearing one.
Yeah, Colin Cowherd.
He loves us, man. It's nuts.
That's amazing.
I know, right?
He loves the series.
He liked the 3D series.
But that guy's a big deal.
I know.
And to support us, I was like, what?
What's his name? Colin Cowherd. He's guy's a big deal. I know. And to support us, I was like, what? What's his name?
Colin Cowherd.
He's a good guy, man.
Famous talk.
Look, if I know who you are, you're famous.
Yeah, and you watch that show.
You watch that show religiously, right?
Yeah, he's my favorite.
He's good, man.
Ask good questions.
He's a smart guy.
He's an objective guy.
Yeah.
I can't believe he posted a picture of his shirt.
That other guy that's like a really famous guy.
There's Skip Bayless.
Radio guy.
Dan Patrick.
Yeah, I did that guy's show recently.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm surprised you did that show.
Well, I was doing like a tour for the UFC.
He seemed like a nice guy too, but he definitely didn't seem like he knows a lot.
He didn't know shit about fighting.
No.
Well, you know, he asked good questions.
He's a professional.
Yeah, oh, super professional. He's a professional. Yeah. Oh, super professional.
He's one of the best.
A lot of them bring on UFC because they realize it gets ratings, but they don't know about
the sport.
But he was asking me questions like, who's the most legendary MMA fighter of all time?
Well, excuse me, sir.
That's pretty general.
Well, I know.
But I went with Hoyce Grazer.
Hoyce Grazer?
Who's the most important?
One of those things?
Who's the biggest star?
I said Hoyce Grazer because he was the original. Because he changed everything about MMA. He's the most important, one of those things? Who's the biggest star? I said Hoyce Gracie because he was the original.
Because he changed everything about MMA.
He's the pioneer.
He's the Bruce Lee of our sport.
Changed everything about martial arts with his victories.
Correct.
Because everybody had to go, wow, what is he doing?
And then we had to learn it.
Correct.
Changed it.
That's fair.
Yeah.
I mean, obviously, it was his whole family and his uncle.
Makes sense, though.
His dad.
Yeah. Dude, I had to do a- For sure. It was his whole family and his uncle and his dad.
Yeah.
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Dude, I had to do a tribute show to Kimbo Slice for Spike.
Dude.
And they were asking me, like, I'm going to get flack for this, but they asked me for the Mount Rushmore.
And I said, you can't be up there without Kimbo Slice for what he did on YouTube, stuff
like that.
Good kick to the body.
Dude, I started crying so bad.
I don't know what they're going to do with it.
Well, I wouldn't agree with that as far as a Mount Rushmore, but I would definitely agree with it as far as a guy who is super important for the overall picture of what MMA is.
And the difference between backyard fighters and MMA fighters.
And then a guy like Kimbo, who was a backyard fighter,
but then became a legit MMA fighter.
That's what his significance is.
You can be somebody in your backyard,
and if you have the skills or the personality or something,
the magic, you can make it to the big games.
Bossy's connected with some serious right hands.
Bossy's going to knock him out.
Spinning back fist now.
O'Connell's on queer street.
Oh!
O'Connell with a left hand!
Oh my God.
Fuck sakes.
It's crazy.
Fucking white people, man.
Oh, look at that.
They're high-fiving.
We're beating the fuck out of each other. Yeah, but keep going.
Keep going.
Oh my God.
Don't do that.
I'm taking a breather here.
Yeah, don't do that.
Oh, chaos.
Oh my God.
This is crazy.
Oh, nice left hand.
O'Connell's got a very nice left hand.
Yeah, he does. He's been laying it all night.
He mixes it up between like a half a jab and a hook.
It's like Michael Jai Smith or whatever.
Easy.
Jai White.
God damn it.
I meant Jai White.
Michael J. Smith?
I call him Smith. It's my nickname for him.
And by the way, hey dude.
Hey dude.
Talk about Jaden Smith.
Dude, do me a favor.
Mind your P's and Q's around him.
When is Tony Baltimore fighting Habib Nurmagomedov? No, Ferguson. Hey dude, hey dude I'm out Jaden Smith Mind your P's and Q's around me
When is Tony Baltimore fighting Habib Nurkhamenov?
No Ferguson
Different riot
You get the wrong riot
Oh shit that's good
Oh spinning back fists
We're throwing spinning shit huh?
One of the greatest Nick Diaz quotes of all time.
Oh, we're throwing spinning shit now.
Oh my god, they were gonna high-five again.
Bossy's like loving high-fiving dudes.
No, quit fucking high-fiving and killing each other.
He likes it.
He's enjoying himself.
It's the time of his life.
Come on, boys.
He can't keep high-fiving.
He looked, dude.
That guy looks fucking fresh.
Look how good a shape he's in.
Third round, he's moving light on his feet.
And he's ate some shots.
Amazing.
Fuck.
O'Connell's nose is in pieces. Yeah, it's moving light on his feet. And he's ate some shots. Amazing. O'Connell's nose is in pieces.
Yeah, it's a mess.
But look at Bossy.
Nice movement.
He is moving around.
He's also catching his breath right now.
He is, but still.
Oh, body shot.
But speed, man.
He's punching well.
Oh, my God.
He's hitting back fists.
This fight is fucking crazy.
This is some rock'em sock'em.
Dude.
These guys.
This is like a candidate for fight of the year.
Am I wrong?
Oh, my God. This is like Rocky V. Certainly of the year. Am I wrong? Oh, my God.
This is like Rocky V.
Certainly brawl of the year.
I'm three brawl.
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I'm three wines deep.
I don't know, Joe, but from the three wine glasses, yes, you're right.
Certainly the brawl of the year.
Oh!
When was Rory and fucking, that was a while ago, though.
That was a year ago, I think.
See, there's fights like this.
I think we should all have a button at home that we can press.
We just say, no decision.
No one can lose this fight.
Yeah, you're right.
No one can lose this fight.
America just spoke.
Neither one of you guys.
Oh, right elbow!
There's no way either guy is a fucking loser.
Well, they're getting the fight of the night bonus for sure.
Guys are taking this pain.
But who's, unless someone stops someone.
If this fight ends right now, the way this is going, how the fuck do you pick a winner
of this goddamn fight
It's not fair
Life isn't fair
It's a draw
How do you feel Eddie
It's easy
You gotta do
I don't want to hear you say Michael J White again
I like Spahn
Don't put his name in your mouth
You could look at total strikes
Obviously round one and round two
1-1 for O'Connell, 1-1 for Bossy
But you can't just calculate all the strikes
All together
Look at that
They should both make an agreement
There's still gangster in it
Look at this
Right hand on the break
Looking at the clock Make an agreement, no wrestling. There's still gangster in it. Look at this. Look at this. Oh, right here on the break.
Look at this.
Looking at the clock.
Base, base, base.
50 seconds left here, kids. I think they both said enough.
I think they could stop it now.
I'm liking these guys.
These guys are friends after this.
Isn't that ironic?
I don't want to see anymore.
Every time they see each other, they hug each other for the rest of their lives.
Depends who wins.
Oh, shit.
Oh!
Jesus Christ. Who wins? Nobody's winning. Oh, shit. Oh! Jesus Christ.
Who wins?
Nobody's winning.
Oh, no.
The refs will get it.
They both won.
I bet you money Basse wins this fight.
Really?
You want to bet?
Oh, come on.
He's a terminator.
Well, he's fighting in Canada.
Exactly.
I believe Basse won, but he's fighting in Canada.
Sure you don't want to bet over there, Eddie?
You're pretty quiet.
Oh, you want to bet right now?
Yeah, I got Basse.
How much you got?
Anything you want, let's bet right now.
$10,000?
$15,000? Are you serious, Eddie? A truckload of your shirt. He's on pills. Oh! Bro, I think you're on. Oh, you want to bet right now? Yeah, I got best. How much you got? Anything you want, let's bet right now. $10,000? $15,000?
Are you serious, Eddie?
A truckload of your shirt.
He's on pills.
He's on pills.
I think you're on.
Oh, my God.
You know what?
You had surgery.
I'm going to give you the free pass.
This fight is insane.
Look at this.
Come on.
Look at this.
This is too easy.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my goodness.
That's a fucking fight.
Now I got base.
I got base.
Well, fuck.
I got base, too. Because of peer000. No, I got Bozay. I got Bozay. Well, fuck. I got Bozay, too.
Because of peer pressure.
Hey, back to Kimbo.
All I was saying is what he did, because he brought in the average fan from YouTube to
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Mixed Martial Arts.
That's why he's a big deal.
What a fight.
My mom knew who Kimbo was from the YouTube videos.
I definitely see that point.
That's all I'm saying.
I definitely see he's an important figure.
I just wouldn't say-
How many people are Mount Rushmore?
Mount Rushmore is only like- Four or. How many people are Mount Rushmore?
Four or five?
No, my Mount Rushmore.
Oh, it's four.
Okay, Hoyce is one.
No, my Mount Rushmore.
Hoyce?
It's supposed to be five?
I believe so, yeah.
Who is supposed to be number five?
How about we put Ronald motherfucking Reagan in and say it's done?
I'm not mad at that.
Oh, man.
You guys are Ronald Reagan fans?
Let's put Obama on that bitch.
He's in a movie with a monkey.
We can all agree we just say no.
I'm a Reagan fan. I don't care what anybody says.
He's a real man.
Fox News put him to sleep when he was a baby. I'm not a Fox News guy.
He hypnotized him.
I'm not a Fox News guy.
I'm just a libertarian.
I might have made that up.
There's four, right?
I love saying that.
Maybe they were thinking about that initially. Can you name the four, Brian? I love saying that. There's definitely four, but I thought there might have been a fifth or maybe not. Maybe they were thinking about that initially.
Can you name the four?
Brian, you fucking better be able to name the four.
Is that Johnny Depp on a motorcycle?
Four what?
Mount Rushmore.
Is this Johnny Depp on a motorcycle?
No, Johnny Depp's off everything right now.
He can't be hitting bitches and do commercials.
There's a clip of Ronald Reagan.
I'm going to go with Washington.
Is that really him?
Abe Lincoln.
That's not him, Joe.
Okay.
I'm going to go with Washington. That's Harley Davidson. I was like, I don't think that's him. You's not him, Joe. That's Harley Davidson.
I was like, I don't think that's him.
Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt.
That's four. There's only four.
And Lincoln. Is that right?
He's right. Am I right?
I got it? I got it.
You mentioned history. It doesn't matter.
I can't believe I got it. I don't think about it.
I got lucky on that one, guys.
So if you're talking MMA, you got Hoist Gracie.
For sure.
Chuck Liddell.
If you got Chuck Liddell, you have to have Rampage.
See, that's why you can't have a...
What do you have, Tito?
Anderson Silva, GSP.
You got Randy Couture.
You have to have Randy.
You have to have Tito.
You have to have GSP.
And you got Anderson Silva.
You have to have BJ Penn.
You got Kimbo.
You got BJ Penn.
See, you got a lot of...
How many guys are those?
Too many. That's eight. There's no way you can have a Mount Rushmore. You gotta have Fed. You got BJ Penn. You got BJ Penn. See, you got a lot of... How many guys are those? Too many.
That's eight.
There's no way you can have a Matt Rushmore.
Well, then you gotta have Fedor on there in Crow Cop.
Oh, yeah.
You gotta have Fedor.
If you have to pick four...
You want him all time?
You got Wanderlei on that bitch.
100%.
Fuck you.
Shogun might be on there.
I was just gonna say that.
And maybe even Ninja.
How dare you?
Ninja in their early days...
Come on, we're dropping legends, and then you drop Ninja.
Before he tried to fight Sergey Karatanov, he was a bad motherfucker for quite a few years.
Bro, compared to Shogun?
That's true.
His brother?
His brother's definitely far more accomplished.
Oh, Bosse.
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That's a hard loss.
Yeah, you know what, man?
It's Canada.
The fans won.
That's a hard loss, bro.
We all won.
Fan ones, man.
We all won.
We won, man.
That's a hard loss.
At least he has that sweet tattoo.
O'Connell is a bad motherfucker.
You are a mean person.
I'm being dead fucking serious. That shit is sick. I wish my brown ass could get that color.
I feel very uncomfortable about him hearing this.
That's a caramel rub.
Some people did not want a fifth face to be carved in 1935.
Susan B. Anthony.
Susan B. Anthony should be at a bunch of fucking guys trying to get laid.
What did she do?
For real, a bunch of fucking...
Susan B. Anthony.
I'll get you on that Mount Rushmore, girl.
She was a suffragette.
I'd like to come on you and suck my dick.
Susan B. Anthony.
Susan B. Anthony.
Get you on that.
We're terrible people.
That's what's wrong with us.
Boom, boom.
She was the first feminist.
Look at this.
Boom, boom.
You can't have her on Mount Rushmore.
Boom, look at this.
Boom.
Look at this one left, and then this is the one that shuts the lights off.
You gotta, yeah.
I mean, that round belongs to him.
Is that a 10-8 round?
He's so tough.
He's so tough.
It's weird.
Yeah, that's gotta be 10-8.
It has to be a 10-8.
Well, I don't know what is and isn't anymore, man.
Who knows with these fucking refs?
Judges.
But I don't think it's done the right way.
I don't think we should have a 10-point system.
I think it should be like 100 points or something like that.
We should figure it out.
Or 30 points.
This should be a bunch of points where it's not 10-9 all the time.
You can't have 10-9, especially with the grappling and the submission.
It doesn't make sense.
Especially if I'm good off my back and I'm constantly having the guy in danger.
Or if I'm a counter-wrestler.
By the way, this is not saying we disagree with this decision, right? I don't disagree with it. Like I said, I'm not saying you have the guy in danger, or if I'm a counter wrestler. But how would you do it? By the way, this is not saying we disagree with this decision, right?
I don't disagree with it.
You know what?
Like I said, I'm three winds deep.
I don't know.
I think Boston could easily win.
Finish only MMA.
Excuse me, sir.
No.
Do you hate ratings?
If there's no knockout, if there's no submission.
Do you want the 200?
What if you had grappling judges and striking judges?
How about you have MMA judges?
Fuck all that.
Yeah, no, he's right.
You have ex-fighters as judges.
That's what you need.
Wait, wait.
Here's what you want.
You want Matt Hume, who judged for Pride.
Matt Hume is who you should have judging.
You should have guys.
There's a handful of guys like him.
Like Dwayne Ludwig, Matt Hume, and Duke Rufus.
Dwayne Ludwig is another great example.
You know, have people that have a full understanding of MMA.
Yes.
You imagine if BJ Penn was a judge with his knowledge of MMA.
Phenomenal.
Fuck you.
Or think of amazing, Rich Franklin.
Why'd he turn on me?
Think of Rich Franklin.
Rich Franklin.
One of the greats.
You know, Jens Pulver.
Think about how many great fighters that don't fight anymore but have a deep knowledge of
MMA.
Fuck this shit.
Dada fights better than that bitch.
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Why are they not?
Why are they?
He's better than we got now.
Who?
Dada.
He knows MMA better than the other guys.
Why don't they reach out to those guys?
Well, there's...
Commission, son.
You know, I mean...
They'd have to fire somebody and they'd have to do it.
Who knows what they'd have to do?
Nobody.
Yeah, that's part of the problem.
Nobody's getting fired.
These are government jobs.
Dude, this fight's a motherfucker.
This fight's dangerous for Cowboy, man. That's my boyfriend right there. Kote's big. These are government jobs. Dude, this fight's a motherfucker. This fight's dangerous for Cowboy, man.
That's my boyfriend right there.
Cote is big and hits hard as fuck.
He does.
And as a junior.
He's bigger.
Jiu-Jitsu, man.
Underrated Jiu-Jitsu as of lately.
He's a black belt.
Yes, he is.
Come on, Donald.
But I was impressed when he fought Ben.
When he fought Ben and almost caught him with an armbar from the bottom.
And I was thinking that.
Like, Cote is a crafty guy that doesn't sit still.
He's been fighting a long time.
But he keeps getting better. He also hits hard as fuck. He definitely does. He doesn't sit still. He's been fighting a long time. But he keeps getting better.
He also hits hard as fuck.
He definitely does.
He doesn't rest on his laurels.
And if you watch him fight now,
he fights much more technical.
He doesn't unload
like big bombs.
Sometimes.
Well, he does
with Ben.
He caught Ben
and he hit him
with a ton of uppercuts.
But he's been fighting
more technical
than he did
earlier in his days.
He's harnessing that power.
Yeah, he's getting better.
He's a veteran now.
That motherfucker fought for a title.
Remember that?
Anderson in his prime.
Yep.
Fuck you.
Donald's my boyfriend, so you guys can shut up.
It's a tough fight for Donald, man.
It is a tough fight.
It really is.
It's not a kick clock.
It's a tough fight for both guys.
Both of them.
Donald is no joke at 170 either, man.
Fuck no.
I like him healthy.
Donald has more tools.
Yep.
He's nasty off of his back.
His kickboxing is legit as fuck.
He's got great kicks.
You know what scares me?
What?
Is Donald, when he fights good boxers, struggles.
And even Donald admits it.
He goes, I go forward or backwards.
I don't take angles.
And when you're facing a guy who has good boxing, you're in trouble, man.
I hear a guy like him say that, and I've got to assume that he's working on that.
I've got to assume if he's telling you that, that he's trying to get better at it.
But you've got to kind of guess where a guy's at based on his previous performances.
So if you look at his previous performances, like Nate Diaz was a really troublesome fight for him.
He had a really hard time, particularly in the first round.
And what can Nate do?
Boxes.
Boxes really well.
But I also think there was
some emotional stuff going on in that fight.
Because Nate talked him into a coma.
Nate knocked his hat off.
And Cowboy's a nice guy.
You see Cowboy when he was lining up to fight
Cote, like the weigh-ins, they were real
friendly. Cowboy's a real friendly guy.
Really friendly guy. He's a really, really
good guy. He's a really good guy.
So he doesn't need or want to hate you.
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He doesn't need animosity like the Diaz brothers.
But I think Nate really got in his head with that shit and it was like, wow.
Fought emotional.
I mean, this guy was like, Nate's super disrespectful when he's going to fight you.
And it's part of the strategy.
He makes it personal.
Yep.
And to make you think about it because it makes your emotions ramp up.
It makes you tight. Makes you make mistakes. Makes you make mistakes. They're brilliant at it. It's very And to make you think about it because it makes your emotions ramp up. It makes you tight.
Makes you make mistakes.
Makes you make mistakes.
They're brilliant at it.
It's very smart.
They're brilliant at it.
Well, Connor did that.
He's great at that.
Do you like that?
Because I go back and forth, man, because I see like Jose Aldo.
I love shit talking when it's done really well.
But you know what I don't like?
It seems like a lot of people are trying to do that now that weren't doing that before.
I hate it, brother.
You know why, though?
Because the guys who do it are making more money.
Yep, I understand.
And they're getting more fame.
So now guys, it's not in their personality.
It's not in their demeanor.
And they're trying to do it.
It's like, God damn, that is fake.
It's not good.
But that's what you get when you award that.
Yeah.
Because everyone mimics.
It's the same as NFL.
The NFL mimics.
Everyone mimics.
Are you willing to trade off fan support
for cash? That's what it really
is. Because once you start talking shit... But if it's not your thing,
it's embarrassing. Generally, guys, people
aren't into that. Generally, it turns people off.
Generally, like... It makes headlines.
It makes headlines. Do you think Conor
never turned anybody off? Name the
most famous fighters in the world. Floyd Mayweather,
the most biggest shit talker of all time.
Conor McGregor, shit talker.
Brock Lesnar, shit talker.
Listen.
Think about it.
Conor put everything together.
He had incredible performances and he talked mad shit.
How about Chael Sonnen?
Chael Sonnen was great at talking shit.
Not that great of a fighter, to be honest.
He was a good fighter, but he wasn't good enough to be a world champ.
He came so close against Anderson.
I know, Joe, but what got him to that point?
That shit-talking.
The shit-talking, but also the performances against Nate Marquardt.
You can't say that that was his performance.
No, no, I'm not saying he's not a great fighter.
I'm just saying with his shit-talking, it definitely added hope.
No, Chael's phenomenal.
Phenomenal athlete.
Great fighter.
I'm just saying with his personality and his shit-talking, it elevated him.
But I think when a guy like Conor does something that he did,
knock out Jose Aldo in 13 seconds.
He called it.
He's a different, it's a different thing.
I agree.
Like his performances.
Yeah, his wins were a different thing.
But then it backfires because when you lose, you get, look at Ronda,
you get it tenfold.
Oh, yeah.
And everybody's going to get lined up.
That's the price, but you know what? Fuck it. You make's gonna get lined up that's the price but you know
what if fuck it you make that money your bank account in the fame it helps guys like randy
couture when he loses people are like fuck you're still a bad motherfucker like no one's true no one
hates him you know those randy couture days are over my brother connor changed the entire game
no no there's a lot of guys oh i disagree this always name so name so george st pierre
he's not fighting anymore.
But if he was.
Those days are over.
But do you understand that if George St. Pierre is a beautiful man who's a great fighter.
He's got so much going on.
He's respectful.
He wears nice suits.
He would still sell like crazy today.
I agree, Joe.
And he would still sell like crazy if he came up today and he was that guy.
Because he was a huge star before.
All I'm saying, name someone right now who's currently fighting in the UFC, who's quiet
and is a
superstar that's interesting well you really there's the superstars are ronda connor no but
you gotta look at the extremes john jones is like on the brink of superstardom if john jones can
get past cormier and they get record numbers for ufc 200 and becomes a gigantic event john jones
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at the door.
He's a superstar because he has great talent,
but he's also in the headlines for bad shit.
He's making headlines.
But sometimes that, I mean,
if you want to talk about what makes someone a famous person,
sometimes that's almost as important in this goofy society as someone being a shit talker.
But look at a guy like Uriah.
Because you're making headlines.
Now, what do you think?
Is Uriah Faber a shit talker or not?
I don't think he is.
I think he's super honest.
He's an old school guy.
When you hear Uriah Faber
talking about an upcoming fight,
he never...
He's an old school guy.
He's not a huge draw anymore, Eddie.
He's an old school guy.
He's from the old past.
He's still in the mix.
Come on, Uriah Faber's still
right up there in the mix.
There's a reason why they had
Uriah versus Dominic Cruz.
And it wasn't just because
Uriah's been doing really well.
It was also because they know
Uriah can sell some fuck
Name a superstar who doesn't talk shit. That's all I'm saying if you're I favorite. Yeah, he's old dude. He's not
Let's define superstar is it a UFC world champion paper no just pay-per-view just pay-per-view job
Who's been a pay-per-view draw besides Uriah that's not a world champion in the UFC?
Anderson Silva don't talk shit.
No, but who?
Who's ever been a pay-per-view star that's never been a world champion in the UFC?
Is there one?
Conor McGregor?
No, Conor McGregor knocked out Aldo.
Yeah, but when he fought in the ADS, he was a world champ at 170.
But it doesn't matter.
He was a world champ at 145.
He had beaten Jose Aldo.
He was one of the best pound-for-pound fighters of all time.
But 170 wasn't for the weight class.
But it didn't matter because Nate's not a 170.
He fought a couple of times at 170.
Damien Maia.
Not a world champ.
That's the answer.
But he won the world championship.
It's the wrong answer.
He's a go.
It doesn't matter, bro.
He won the heavyweight title.
You're saying currently.
Who hasn't been? Who hasn't?, bro. He won the heavyweight title. You're saying currently. Who hasn't been?
Who hasn't?
Hasn't been.
There's not one.
So Uriah Faber's the only guy in consideration.
If you think about a guy who's like a legit star who's never won a UFC title who can sell
pay-per-views, Uriah might be the only guy.
Uriah won a WC title, but yeah.
Yeah, but nobody-
Never a UFC.
Nobody in the UFC that has come along in
these years who's not like a giant
crazy Fight Pass fan has
likely seen those fights. True.
You know, it's hard because
you don't see those when they show those
UFC countdown shows, you see
highlights from them and shit, but you don't really see
WECs on TV.
True. Well, I mean, Donald Cerrone.
A lot of dudes do talk shit, but it's fighting.
It's natural.
Cerrone's a bit of a talk shit.
Cerrone's a bit of a draw.
Not a world champ.
Cerrone's a good call.
He doesn't really talk shit.
He's gotten close a couple times.
He gets there.
That's his regular fighting shit.
But, you know, he doesn't get the kind of, like, numbers.
He was actually talking about that.
He did an interview recently where he was talking about how he'd rather fight Nate than Dia diaz or nate diaz rather than connor because it doesn't matter to him whether it's for the
world title or not he still gets the same amount of money like whether he's fighting he doesn't
get pay-per-view he doesn't care about the world champion he just wants to fight the best guy
he wants to fight like a guy who he wants to fight and i guess he wants to get back at nate because
he fought because he beat him yeah it makes sense he him, and he doesn't feel like he fought his best.
That's also why Cowboy's such a badass because he just wants challenges.
That's what he gravitates towards.
100%.
That's why he's a small 170 dude.
Paul Felder looked bigger than him the other day when we were hanging out at the comedy store.
Paul Felder's a great dude.
By like a few pounds.
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That's true.
Like maybe 10.
Well, he was. Felder was in the high 80s when true. By like a few pounds. That's true. Like maybe ten. Well, he was.
Felder was in the high 80s when we saw
him, and Donald was
176. Here's one for you. Max Holloway, when nine in a
row, doesn't talk an ounce of shit.
You don't think he knows who he is. That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, but he also... That's the bad part
to it. In England right now, in the UK,
he could headline a UK show
right now. Max Holloway? You mean Hawaii,
motherfucker. Oh, is he? I thought he was from the UK. No, Max Holloway? You mean Hawaii, motherfucker.
I thought he was from the UK.
No, John Holloway.
You're thinking of John Holloway.
Okay, fine. You're thinking of John Hathaway.
John Hathaway.
No, I'm not thinking of John Hathaway.
I have a hand halfway.
I made up one of those UFC fights.
John Hathaway.
And there's Max Holloway.
The skinny guy.
He's Hawaiian as fuck, and he's won nine in a row.
Give him a fucking title shot.
Holy shit, I apologize. Dude, Max Holloway is so good. Yeah, he's so quiet. I thought he was from the UK. He's Hawaiian as fuck, and he's won nine in a row. Give him a fucking title shot. Holy shit, I apologize.
Dude, Max Holloway is so gangster.
Yeah, he's so quiet.
I thought he was from the UK.
He's so fucking good.
Max Holloway is so gangster.
Nine in a fucking row, and beat the who's who.
Dude, his Hawaiian accent is so fucking thick.
How dare you?
He sounds like he's from the Liverpool.
No, get the fuck out of here.
Fuck you.
You know what it is, though?
If you pay attention to flags, they're confusing, because a lot of people don't realize Hawaii
has its own flag.
He couldn't look any more Hawaiian.
Hawaii comes with a flag that looks like a British flag.
I thought it was a Muslim UK guy.
In a weird way.
Because no one in South Dakota comes in with a fucking South Dakota flag.
Why?
Because that is one of the more proof positive things.
That Hawaii is like an occupied country.
We have taken over Hawaii and decided, you know what?
You motherfuckers are just a little too close.
We would like to control you since you're in the middle of the ocean.
And, you know, it's not a good idea to let an enemy live here five hours by plane from fucking Los Angeles.
So we're just going to own you.
So that's what Hawaii is, man.
There's a lot of Hawaiians that want Hawaiian independence.
To that, I would say, settle down.
Settle down. Everyone settle down.
We will respect you
deeply as your own nation.
Just wake up the nukes.
Let's keep this one fucking together.
You love yourself some Hawaii. I love Hawaii.
I love Hawaiian people. I fucking love Hawaii.
I'm going to go on vacation.
I'm probably going to die there. In the sense that when I'm an old man, I'm going to move there. You and me on vacation I've never been I'm probably gonna die there
In the sense that
When I'm an old man
I'm gonna move there
You and me both
I've never been there
I love it
Fuck it's the best
And you know what
Everybody that tells me
The people that tell me
That they go there
And the Hawaiians
Treat them bad
The Hawaiians are racist
They're all douchebags
Yeah
I've never had that issue
They couldn't be any friendlier
They couldn't be any nicer
I went
They take me in like
I'm fucking Lilo and Stitch.
Did you have a hard time?
It's the best.
I went to, for a wedding, we went to, me and my wife went to a wedding out there.
One of our friends got married on the big island.
That was like the Hilo side.
And then there's another side.
There's a Hilo side that BJ is very popular in.
And then the other side, they're like rivals.
You know?
And we were on the side that was like rivaling BJ. Oh, no. And, you know, they're like and we were on the side that was like rivaling BJ
Oh, and you know, we were out there we had that I was watching the UFC on
On my phone and during the wedding
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I didn't know anybody and everybody that lived there was like white people that moved there
They all said do not go out at night. Do not go out the howlies
Yeah, if you go out at night locally to any of these bars, you're going to get fucked.
Oh, yeah.
You don't go to a bar.
Well, you also don't go to a bar in Studio City.
Yeah.
Would you go to a bar in Studio City?
I go to bars in the city.
Dude, I went to the bars in Hawaii.
They're cool as fuck.
You're nine feet tall.
You also look Hawaiian, bro.
Come on.
They're going to fuck with you.
You look Hawaiian.
You're a beast.
And you've got chin mugs living inside your ears.
You've got a massive kip, a tank top on. Come on, man. Who's going to fuck with you? You're an Asian. And you got chipmunks living inside your ears. You got a massive tank top on.
Come on, man.
Who's going to fuck with you?
Everyone knows Eddie Bravo.
That's a good point.
You know what?
The locals said don't go to the bar.
Let me tell you one thing, because you get a lot of heat online sometimes.
I do?
Yeah, man.
I don't know.
Because you talk a lot of shit on the podcast.
People understand that this is like elevated conversation. in real life you get along with everybody everyone everybody
brendan everybody so i mean you're one of those guys like everybody you meet everyone's hugging
everybody everywhere i go he's also he's also very compassionate to all people like he's he's
got he's a soft he's a softy you just talk mad mad shit. Yeah. And you gotta settle down. Uh-oh. Why settle down?
Do you hate ratings?
Okay, Cote.
Cowboy.
Donald looks good.
Donald looks good.
Oh, shit.
Donald with the takedown.
Ready to full guard.
I'm not mad at that takedown by Donald.
He actually has really good wrestling.
Dude, and Patrick Cote has good jiu-jitsu, man.
He's very sneaky off his back.
Cerrone has really good jiu-jitsu.
He does.
He has dangerous jiu-jitsu.
You're right. He does. His submissions are nasty. Cerrone has really good jiu-jitsu. He does. He has dangerous jiu-jitsu. You're right.
He does.
His submissions are nasty.
Cerrone's been top five for 10 years.
He has like 13 triangles.
Some ridiculous.
Some ridiculous.
Some ridiculous.
Dude, he throws it so fucking fast, too.
He probably has more triangles than anybody in the UFC ever.
Amazing.
Well, if you think about it, all the fights in the WEC, one of the things that you and
I talked about a lot, Eddie, is that he was a great example of a guy
why it's important
if you're a good kicker to have a nasty guard.
Because he didn't give a fuck if you took
him down. So he would throw these nasty
ass head kicks, and if you took him down,
oh shit, where'd that triangle come from?
Well, and then he talked about
when he fought Diaz, he was saying how he was
embarrassed because he was so afraid to go to the ground with him.
I was like, what the fuck's wrong with you?
You believe in your jiu-jitsu, man.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Nate said that, too.
But Diaz jiu-jitsu is pretty fucking high level.
It is.
I'm telling you, cowboys, it's fucking good, man.
Anybody should be worried.
It is.
But you shouldn't not go down there if you're down to it.
No, but here's the deal.
A guy like Diaz could tap cowboy.
He's one of the few guys that could tap Cowboy.
And I'm not saying that Cowboy could tap him.
Step over.
Very good position.
Get that next one.
Good position.
Step in.
Knee.
Knee.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Cowboy's so bad.
I love him.
That transition got him up.
Cote, very slick.
That transition got him up.
Look at Cowboy.
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Look at Cowboy just standing there.
He created a scramble from the full guard.
Fuck yeah, he did.
That's the perfect scramble.
Cowboy just can't trade with Cote.
It's a beautiful trade at all.
Either you get the omoplata or you stand up.
Or you get to side control.
It was beautiful.
If it works out.
Cowboy's going to have a speed advantage, but the power scares me with Cote.
Well, here's the thing where Cowboy shines is with his fucking leg kicks, man.
Hell yeah.
That's where he ate up Eddie Alvarez.
And that's where he started to turn the tide on Nate Diaz.
He started attacking that heavy front foot.
Fucking that leg up.
He started fucking up that front foot. He started fucking up
that front foot. Cowboy has
nasty leg kicks, man. It's just the power
of Kote scares the fuck out of me with
Donald. Oh!
God, Cowboy with the takedown!
What scares you? The power of
Kote. Oh, yeah. Because when
Donald gets comfortable, he stands upright
and doesn't move his head. I don't think
Kote expected takedowns at all.
I think that was the last thing on his mind.
He comes very prepared.
Cote comes prepared.
I'm telling you, Cowboy, for three, four years, moved basically to Denver for six months
and just trained with Leister Bowling and Wrestling.
Non-stop.
You wrestle every single day.
You look good there, man.
He looks great.
I'm telling you, he can fucking wrestle.
Damn.
He can wrestle, man. His jiu-jitsu leaves no space. He's got real tight, bite-to good there, man. He looks great. I'm telling you, he can fucking wrestle. Damn. He can wrestle, man.
His jiu-jitsu leaves no space.
He's got real tight, body-to-body jiu-jitsu.
Does he ever?
He has dangerous jiu-jitsu.
Yeah, he very much does.
It's so explosive.
It's hard to train for, man.
God damn.
And wrestling helps your jiu-jitsu so goddamn much.
100%.
God damn.
You know this.
It's not about the wrestling moves.
It's about the base, the stability, the balance.
All that shit into your jiu-jitsu, it just gives you so much good.
Brendan, when you train with Donald, does he just pick up things very quickly?
Is that what it is?
Oh, look at this.
He's at the back.
He trains so much.
Oh, he's taking the back.
He trains a lot.
He's just underrated, man.
It's all he likes to do.
He's a beast.
It's literally all he does.
Just train.
He just trains all fucking time, then jump off boats and cows and shit.
Dude, he's got his neck!
He's got his neck!
Oh, my God!
Donald Cerrone, you bad motherfucker.
God damn.
Damn, he's a bad motherfucker.
I wish I was cage-side so I could throw my underwear in the fucking ring.
He's got the fucking body triangle locked down.
That body triangle is so goddamn nasty.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, he's long, too.
It controls your breathing.
Don't kid yourself.
Oh, yeah, and good underhook.
By the way, he looks pretty much as big as Kote actually.
No he doesn't.
Alright, I don't know guys, I'm excited.
He looks more shredded but he's pretty thin.
Save it unless you've got something funny to say.
He's pretty thin.
He's also tan as shit.
He's tan as shit!
Save it!
He's not like a hot dog.
Save it unless you've got something funny.
Maybe a kielbasa?
A kielbasa?
He's not basse tan.
He's not Hulk Hogan hot dog skin.
Is he like a roasted pork sausage?
Look how relaxed Donald is.
Yeah, he's like a brat.
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He's relaxed.
He's got his back.
He's like a thick brat.
Everybody shut up.
I love a fucking brat.
Come on.
Come on, Donald.
Dude, brats in the summer?
Donald, get up.
Fuck you, man.
Look at this.
Oh!
Looking for it again.
Especially with peppers and onions.
God, I'm so fucking hungry now.
Me too.
God.
Let's go eat after this
I was eating cheese and pickles
In the back room
That's not good enough
I mean
I need meat
Me too
Do you have beef jerky
Up in this motherfucker
I'm sure we got
Some buffalo bars
Oh really
Oh he hit the Kimura
Look at this
Patrick Cote
No
Oh
Stand up
Damn
Patrick Cote is so game man
He's so goddamn game.
God.
Eddie, inside that shelf, there's some shelves in there.
I love these.
Buffalo bars.
I love when Dom winds up.
Hey, remember when he was kicking the fuck out of Homeboy from San Diego on the ground?
Oh, yeah.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah.
A story?
No, no, no.
Hold.
Hold.
What the fuck's that kid's name?
Black Belt from San Diego.
Really good jiu-jitsu.
Really good jiu-jitsu.
Jury.
Miles Jury.
Miles Jury.
It's like you do this for a living, Joe Rogan.
I know.
It's weird.
It's weird.
He sent Jury.
I'm not doing it anymore.
He sent Jury down to 145.
You said it.
This is MMA media.
I'm just trying to bait them.
Yeah, right.
Everything we say becomes some goddamn fake news title story.
Yeah, what can you do?
You keep doing what you're doing.
I understand.
I'm not hating them.
I'm friends with a lot of them.
Me too.
They're actually really good guys.
There's a lot of them that are good guys.
A lot of them suck dick.
A lot of them are pretty cool.
Well, you know what I feel like?
It's also their job.
I really do feel like.
But I really do feel like this.
A lot of the animosity between MMA media and you and i and a lot of other people
would probably be solved if we were actually talking because we would probably have a
conversation that wasn't as one-sided as someone writing something shitty about you you responding
in a shitty way someone writes something to you on twitter it's faceless communication too it's
exactly exactly well it's connection. You're not reading
people's faces. There's also an issue with writing
something, right? Because you write something about
someone's opinion and there's a lot of assumptions.
You're not
communicating with them. You and I
have a dispute about something. We've
had arguments before, but we always resolve
them because we're both reasonable and
we're friends and we talk and we be friendly.
But if you just wrote a blog about me and I responded with a blog about you we know each other forever and i
love you but we'd probably be mad at you but joe this is the this is the problem that's right that's
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right but but this is the the issue becomes if you oh my god seroni's not playing around he's
not hearing a fucking peep he's not hearing a peep everybody defense nice kick to the body
looks bigger than he normally does joe with the articles the thing is what gets clicks
is negativity or headlines nothing personal dude he's on point he is he's on point right
so you can't take it personal but it's not i understand in some ways but i feel like their
job but i feel like it does as much damage to them
as it does to the person they're misrepresenting.
So if they write a story
about you, and they just
Oh, nasty leg kick by Donald!
Dude, those kicks are mean!
Oh, and Cote has to come back with one of his own, man.
That's him. He's a fucking
game dude. Super game.
He's a lot bigger than Donald.
You just said Donald looks his size. Will you shut
the fuck up? I know. I changed my mind, guys.
Guys, I changed my mind. It's the angle.
It's the angle of fucking camera.
God damn these cameras. Hey, Kote's also
a beast of an analyst, too. He does a lot of
work in Canada. Just be careful of Michael J. White.
That's all I ask from you. Michael J. White.
Fuck you, man. Hey, man.
Buy him drinks and everything. I respect him because of Spock.
Yeah, you better respect him for his sidekick and his roundhouse.
You know who needs some fucking props?
Who is an awesome analyst?
Eve Edwards.
God damn, he's good.
I think Tyrone Woodley.
I love Eve Edwards.
Very good, too.
Woodley's a beast.
They're both good.
Woodley's killing the game right now.
He could be good as well.
Oh, no.
You have to not agree with me and bring up another black guy.
Because I have my black guy. You have your black yeah you have your black fucking racist Woodley for president you
guys high kick but you guys a little respect for Donald right now Oh
uppercut by go tell me that power scares me with Donald Oh
yeah I like Donald better at 170 because he doesn't have to fucking dry himself
out he looks he does a great like a sham a sham. Wow right look at him, and he also has a speed advantage like a sham
Oh, why is that you imagine Don Cerrone versus Robbie Lawler fuck?
What okay? Let's not get crazy. What?
What do you mean? I'll get crazy watch this no this is a nasty jab. Oh
I went my another takedown from Donald. I mean don't take a long same by not get crazy
It's like you would have to like, he
would have to beat a bunch of guys before that could happen.
Hey.
Oh, shit.
Nasty kick.
Rogan, a bunch of guys.
A bunch of guys.
The 170 is jabbed.
Look at Donald's jab.
It's almost crazy talking about somebody else fighting Robbie when Robbie is about to fight
Tom Wood.
Nah, that's the way the world works.
I know.
That's our sport. 100%.
I'm talking shit.
Oh, Donald with the underhook!
Because Donald's such a big name, I could
see him jump into number three.
Look at Patrick Cote trying some fucking
Tony Josh shit. Oh, now
we're doing jumping shit. Oh, damn!
Beautiful combination!
Oh, he fucked him up!
Donald's a beast! He's on point!
Oh, look at that jab.
He's on point.
He's too quick for these big boys.
Keeps coming in on you.
Cote had a counter right hand there, too, man.
Cote's still dangerous.
Cote has so much power that's so dangerous.
You keep it down over there, Brendan.
You keep it down.
The thing about Cote, though, to fight the way Cote fights.
Oh!
Oh, my God.
Beautiful left hook.
In your face, Canada.
Oh, my God.
Maple syrup, son. Don't talk shit a left hook. Oh, my God. In your face, Canada. Oh, my God. Maple Syrup, son.
Don't talk shit about the flag.
Maple Syrup, son.
Listen, listen, listen.
God damn, Cerrone.
Don't fuck around.
You sleep on Cerrone.
Maple Syrup, son.
Don't shit on the whole country, man.
Look at Donald versus Kote.
Stop.
Look at Donald.
Get up.
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Look at him.
Oh, man.
Donald turns his ass to him.
Look at him running for it.
No, Donald.
No, don't get a brawling match.
Don't do that.
Shoot it up. Look at that jab. He looks smooth, though. Kick him four. No, Donald. No, don't get a brawling match. Don't do that. Shoot it up.
Look at that jab.
He looks smooth, though.
Kick him in the face, Donald.
He looks so smooth.
Head kick coming up.
Donald has arrived, motherfuckers.
Excuse me, I'll take a head kick for 3,000, please.
Head kick for 3,000.
Look at that heart by Cote.
Holy shit.
Cote's rough as shit.
Cote's a veteran.
Let's let this play out.
Look at that.
I'll step away from you.
You try that, I'm fucking stepping away.
I'll take a kick for 3,000, please.
Oh, oh.
All right.
Crazy.
I'm looking for that step in knee.
I can't wait for this head kick.
I like how Donald defends with that left knee.
Me too.
He does a real good job of catching guys as they come in.
Because he throws, oh, that front kick to the body that he used on Jim Miller.
He's so good. He throws that
knee to the body very sparingly
but super effective. He just keeps coming in.
Oh!
Oh!
Oh man!
Kote's tough. Kote's like
bring it on. These Canadians
are built from different stuff.
Don't get in a brawling match, cowboy.
Oh! Donald with the quick switch kick high.
I love that switch kick.
He's got that nice left.
Oh, he's got a nice left switch kick.
Fuck you, man.
I just want to say something while everybody leaves.
Go ahead.
Listen, relax.
Brendan's a really nice guy.
This is like fun.
This is fun. Do you understand?
He's the best.
When he's broadcasting, during the fight with the kid, when he's doing this show.
It's fun, folks.
Of course.
It's fun.
There's a lot of nerds out there that are freaking out.
They're angry.
Nah, he's the best.
Hey, I'll tell you who defends nerds is Brendan Schaub.
He's a very nice guy.
If you're a nerd and you're getting picked on, Brendan Schaub's gonna
punch the guy in the face. He's not fighting anymore
folks. He's trying to make some hype.
This is how he does it. Okay, let's relax.
Everybody relax. He's a special guy.
Everybody relax and enjoy
Cote vs. Cerrone. You're allowed to
disagree and agree. It's all good.
It's all good. But I guarantee you
if you met him in real life, you'd go
oh, he's a good guy.
Yes.
And if you see him on stage with Brian Callen, you're like, yeah, he looks a little nervous up there.
Yeah, of course he's nervous.
He's never fucking done this before.
That's right.
Do you understand how weird it is?
These guys are doing the Wilbur Theater in Boston.
Sold out show.
I got the report.
I heard.
You guys sold out the Wilbur.
It's crazy.
For a podcast show.
It's crazy.
I don't even know what to say about it. It's crazy. For a podcast show. It's crazy. I don't even know what to say about it.
It's just...
Amazing.
It's fun.
I love it.
I mean, Brennan Schaub, my whole life changes.
I've been in the business forever.
I'm so happy.
Well, you know, you were the one who told me to do a podcast.
I'm so happy.
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It's been amazing.
What'd I miss?
We were talking about Crocodiles.
We were just talking about you guys.
You guys have such a cool...
Oh!
Left hook!
Oh my God!
Again! He just won this round. He's too quick, son. He just won talking about you guys. You guys have such a cool- Hold on. Look at this. Oh! Left hook! Oh my God! Again!
He just won this round.
He's too quick, son.
He just won this round, dude.
Shut the fuck up.
Did you say won this round?
I know, Brian.
It doesn't matter.
Both of you pour me another drink like a woman.
Make me eggs.
You fuck.
I'm not your concubine, you son of a bitch.
Oh, oh!
Look at this.
He'll get out.
Look at this.
He just gets out.
Get up.
Get up.
I just want to point out, in my house, I do all the cooking, so it's just jokes. Oh boy. This is crazy. Look at this. Look at this. He just gets out. Get up. Get up. I just want to point out, in my house, I do all the cooking.
So it's just jokes.
Oh, boy.
This is crazy.
Look at this.
Look at this.
It's a healthy glass.
Thank you.
Yeah, no problem.
You're obviously not gender neutral.
Thank God I'm driving.
Oh, look at this.
I don't know what I'm saying.
I got Shark Eyes doll smell driving for me.
I'm going to have all the wine.
I keep forgetting your brother's behind me.
I love him.
Bet your sweet ass he is.
All right.
This fight is very exciting, man.
Come on, Donald.
I like how Donald switches stances, too.
There are men and there's Donald Cerrone.
Donald Cerrone switches stances, and it's not because he's injured.
It's just because he's got so many variables in his attack.
Look at this.
He can do all kinds of shit in his attack.
He's a beast.
I just don't like him headhunting.
I know what you're saying.
No, you're definitely right.
And it's interesting seeing him do that at 70.
I think this is a good
example of a guy.
First of all, let's bring up Patrick Cote
fought Tito Ortiz at 205 in his
UFC debut and dropped
him and dropped
an all-time great light heavyweight in
Tito Ortiz. So,
look how good Donald Cerrone looks.
This is an argument for the point
of diminishing returns and weight cutting.
Correct, sir.
Donald looks...
He's dropped him twice.
It's an argument for Donald Cerrone being a bad motherfucker.
But we already knew that.
Donald's bad at any weight.
At 70, I think he's at home.
Look how healthy he looks.
Exactly.
Lean, fast, cardio, can take a shot.
And healthy, man, he's healthy
look how good he looks in his third round
he was 176 when I was talking to him
he's only 6 pound weight cut
I'm not telling you that's the move
it is really the move
they're saying Conor can't make 45 anymore
it's gonna be tough for him
so let it go man, he's a superstar
he doesn't need a fucking world title
maybe he wins, maybe he loses everybody makes money, who gives a fuck He's a superstar. He doesn't need a fucking world title. So what's he going to do? Joe fight Joe Sanchez at 55, son? Come on, Donald.
Maybe he wins.
Maybe he loses.
Everybody makes money.
Who gives a fuck?
Oh, my God!
That left hook.
Oh, my God!
Yeah, son!
He's just too good.
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It's over.
It's over.
It's over.
It's over.
That's it.
He rolled over.
That's it.
He rolled over.
Donald Cerrone, you bad motherfucker.
You bad motherfucker.
You get your ass whooped.
You bad motherfucker.
He does not stop it.
I'm texting him right now.
I'm saying there are men
and there's Donald Cerrone.
That's the kind of beatdown.
We all know you have a sex...
That's the kind of beatdown.
He's my boyfriend.
I don't think anybody's ever
beat down Patrick Coté like that.
Damn, he's a bad motherfucker.
I don't think anybody's ever
beat down Patrick Coté like that.
Patrick Coté is lost.
He broke his hand
versus Alan Belcher
and Alan Belcher caught him
in the rear naked.
Anderson Silva,
he blew his knee out.
Who the fuck has ever beaten him down like that? He dismantled. his knee out. Who the fuck has ever beaten him down like that?
He dismantled.
He dropped him three times.
Who has ever beaten him down like that?
How about nobody?
No one.
No one.
And he's coming in on a win streak.
Yes.
And he's coming in looking fantastic.
Jesus Christ.
And he has a great chin.
He's known for his chin.
Known for his chin.
God damn, Donald Cerrone looked good.
God, he's a bad motherfucker.
Boom!
Look at that left hook.
That left hook was landing all night.
But staying in the pocket and not taking any shots.
God.
What hard punches did he take in this fight?
He's just too quick.
At 70, he's too quick for these cats.
Not just too quick, fucking healthy.
Bro.
He's fucking healthy.
Hey, I'm going to be that fucking form guy.
Can you imagine Donald versus Wonderboy?
Listen, Donald's our friend, so let's fucking toast him.
Yeah!
To Donald Cerrone.
To the cowboy.
To the best.
Quit jacking off to him, Brian.
The way you had to send him.
The way you yad there is probably not in your best interest.
That's probably a key point.
What did I do?
No, he did.
It's like one of those...
What's that guy, Howard Dean?
It's like the Howard Dean, yeah!
We're going to take him over!
We're going to fucking defeat Australia!
Yeah!
What did I do?
He ruined everything for himself. Yeah, it was just a little weird.
Yeah!
You got a little carried away.
No, see, that's pretty manly, I feel like.
No, it was like one drink too many.
All right.
It was like, mistakes are gonna happen.
It happens.
It sounds kind of...
It's the...
It sounds kind of lusty.
Something's gonna go wrong.
It sounds like he's watching somebody fucking going,
Yeah!
No, it's like he's got an audition.
It'd be a great time. He's never had an audition before, and they go, action somebody fucking going, yeah. No, it's like he's got an audition.
He's never had an audition before.
And they go, action.
He goes, yeah.
And then the guy goes, great stuff, Brendan.
We'll be in touch.
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So we've got your info.
Oh, by the way, that's not Johnny Depp.
And you're not a fucking actor.
Bro, you thought that was Johnny Depp, and you thought the other guy was Snoop Dogg.
I was barely paying attention.
For sure.
Plus, I'm high as fuck.
I'm a Davidson.
John Jones.
Speaking of high as fuck, John fucking Jones.
Yeah, let's pull that better, bro.
Here's the thing, man.
For the main event, Joe.
For the main event.
Out of respect.
Here's the thing about this UFC 200 thing and the Brock Lesnar thing.
This is the thing because MMA media loves to write stories about this stuff.
I'm a fan of Ariel Helwani's.
I like Ariel Helwani.
When I was telling that what was told to me about the UFC, about the leak, I don't not like Ariel Helwani.
He's always been a nice guy to me.
I like him.
I was just simply stating what i was told yeah you know i mean i don't and i don't give a fuck about these big promos you know what i care
that brock lesnar is gonna fight mark hunt i don't care if i heard it from my mom my mom called me up
look i worked for the ufc i didn't find out until i was sitting there doing commentary i didn't give
a shit if i had found out because of a Helwani's story instead of the UFC,
I wouldn't have given a fuck. It wouldn't have
been any less valuable to me.
Can I ask you something
as a guy who's on the inside?
Why would Brock Lesnar
take a guy like Mark Hunt
on his first fight? I don't think he had a choice.
It doesn't make any sense. I don't think Dana gave him
a choice. It's a good question.
It's so dangerous, man.
Who are you going to give him?
Josh Barnett wanted the fight, and you'd fucking wrap him in two.
It could be that.
Well, Jesus Christ, I would almost like to see Josh Barnett more.
Barnett wanted the fight.
Because of his roots in pro wrestling.
Barnett wanted the fight, promoted for the fight.
They didn't give it to him for many reasons.
Man, I don't know, man.
If I'm talking about Dana, I'd be hard-pressed.
I'd be hard-pressed.
I'd be hard-pressed to pass Josh Barnett's offer.
Hunt is going to be like, hey, bitch, I ain't the Undertaker.
Fucking uppercut second row.
Suck it.
Yeah, let me tell you something, man.
Josh Barnett is not a fucking easy fight for anybody.
I'm not saying he is.
Barnett's a fucking monster.
I'm saying Hunt isn't a cakewalk at all.
No, neither guy is.
But Barnett can wrestle. Exactly. Mark Hunt isn't a cakewalk at all. No, neither guy is. But Barnett can wrestle.
Exactly.
Mark Hunt can't.
Yeah, but Brock Lesnar is a fucking genuine NCAA two-time.
In 1996, sir.
But he's still a fucking gorilla wrestler.
He hasn't fought in how long?
That's a good point.
That's a huge point.
Yeah.
I mean, you know.
Mark Hunt's been fucking doodling.
And we're going to give you Mark Hunt who's peaking.
No, I'll get too weird.
Hunt is peaking.
Last time I got weird.
Goddamn Donald Cerrone.
Yeah, Donald's a beast.
He's a bad motherfucker, this Donald Cerrone.
God, he's a beast.
To do this to Patrick Cote.
You never see Patrick Cote turtle.
Think about the cool fights at 70.
Think about the cool fights at 70 for Donald.
You never see Patrick Cote turtle.
I love it. I love him at 70. I love it at 70. He about the cool fights at 70 for Donald. You never see Patrick Cote Turtle. I love it.
I love him at 70.
I love it at 70.
He didn't even get scratched.
No.
I think he looks as good as it gets.
He'll be on the boat tomorrow morning.
Yeah, he'll be doing some jet skiing.
He'll be fucking riding a bull or some shit. Yeah, he'll be fucking a bear.
For sure, relax on that.
He's a different kind of guy, man.
I mean, this is what makes him happy.
He likes doing crazy shit.
It makes him happy.
I'm a big fan. I'm going to shave my head tomorrow.'s me I'm a big fan I just like him as a person yeah he's a good fun warm dude you know what
Donald said to me once man I'd only met him like maybe twice you know it was
like early on the day and I said hey man what's up and I read to give him a
handshake goes all come on man we hug around here yeah it's great he gives you
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a hug yeah but it's a genuine hug. Yeah, you know it's like
It's not it's not political or he's not now. He's a
Casting now from Jackson's gym. I'm subscribing. Yes. I'll take it. Yeah, everybody should podcast
He calls it the companion for sure a podcast the same way you have a fucking why not call it the campaign
I'm just kidding. It was a shit. No what you caught the same way. Yeah, it's companion
I think that's his show Something like that
It's a good name
Where they breed
Bad motherfuckers
He calls it
Bad Motherfucker Ranch
Well it's like
What was that
Garen Keeler
Sir
What's that guy
Prairie Home Companion guy
Oh yeah
Garrison Keeler
Is that his name
Well there was a radio show
That was like a really famous
Prairie Home Companion
Is that
What is his name
I don't remember his name
But he
Garrison
He had He had
it on NPR every Sunday.
It's one of those things that people listen to
when your endocrine system is completely shut down.
You're no longer interested in fucking at all.
Look at these fucking guys.
Joking. The Prairie Home Companion.
Is it part of the
Publix radio path?
I don't remember. I've never fucking heard of them.
Well, it's a famous thing, and I don't believe I've ever listened to a whole one, but I know
that it's a big deal to some people.
Oh, he's still doing the damn thing?
Is he still going?
This would be the main event, gentlemen.
Yeah.
And I hope you guys are ready.
Big fucking fight.
Okay, let's break this down, Brendan Shaw, Eddie Bravo, and Brian motherfucking Cohen.
What do you guys think?
Start with Brian. What, me? Yeah. Whatucking Cone. What do you guys think? Start with Brian.
What, me?
What do I say?
What do you think?
I mean, look, here's the problem.
Here's the problem.
There's no problems yet.
Rory's trained with Wonderboy.
Bro, don't steal my lines.
I'm not.
I broke this down on all of us.
Hold on.
That was my exact line.
Let me finish.
Let me finish, you son of a bitch. Let me finish. Come up with your own shit.
Let me finish.
I'm not your ghost writer.
If Rory gives him space, it's going to be a disaster.
If Rory stays in boxing wrestling distance, he's going to win this fight.
But I don't know if you can do that now.
I don't know if you can do that with Wonderboy.
Wonderboy may have figured out distance.
Eddie, you want to bet on this?
And he may have figured out how to keep a guy like that away.
This is way too close to call.
Those back kicks.
Exactly.
Let me hear what Brendan thinks.
I'll take...
Can I hear what Brendan thinks?
I'll continue next.
I want to hear what you guys think.
I think Rory has too many tools.
He's too smart.
And they've trained together before at TriStar.
And Firas helped Wonderboy out a bunch.
So they know his tricks.
And I think Rory wins this fight.
And it's good for the sport because he's a free agent, and he can go test the free market waters.
So it changes the sport for the good.
Interesting.
Eddie Bravo, what do you think?
It's too close to call.
That's why we should bet.
But if I had a gun to my head, I would go with, you're right.
On paper, you're right.
Rory McDonald does have too many tools.
Because he can strike and wrestle.
Steven Thompson, he's just so
quick coming in and out.
I'm going to just with that kind of
shit, this explosiveness. It's so difficult
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because Rory's so good. I'm going to go with that just for a goof.
Both the analysts picked Wonderboy
on UFC Tonight by the way. Here's the thing
though. It's tough. Wonderboy has been hit before.
Didn't Ellenberger tag him?
Yes.
He did, right?
And Matt Brown.
Yeah, Matt Brown.
Well, Matt Brown was in his verse.
But in his words, he said that he was overtrained going into that fight, and then he made some mistakes.
Aren't we all?
And it's totally possible that's the truth.
But he also fought Matt motherfucking Brown.
And you might feel like you got overtrained if you fight Matt motherfucking Brown.
Yes, that pressure, son.
Because Matt Brown will put some pressure on you and you'll be looking for solutions.
He's immortal.
He takes you to a dark place.
Yeah.
A dark cardio place.
And if you've never been to that dark place before, you might think, man, someone poisoned my fucking soup.
100%.
Nah, bitch.
That's not Matt Brown cardio.
Poisoned my soup. He's just training you bitch that's that matt brown cardio he's just beating that ass and draining you in a way that only a dude who's died and been brought back to life by emts can do besides for real besides carlos connor him and donna can bring
that pain besides carlos connor when he was really young the only person rory mcdonald's lost to i
believe is robbie lawler am i right you lost to car Rory McDonald's lost to, I believe, is Robbie Lawler.
Am I right?
He lost to Carlos Condit.
He lost to Robbie Lawler.
That's it.
And he was beating Carlos Condit.
You know who else can bring that kind of darkness?
Court McGee.
Well, yeah, because he died from meth or some shit.
He brings that same darkness.
You're talking about that touch of death darkness.
That touch of death darkness.
There's Dada.
There's fucking the immortal Matt Brown.
And there's Court McGee.
Court McGee might lose some fights.
And he's a very, very tough guy.
But he's in a very, very difficult division with a lot of very tough guys.
But there's a darkness that Court brings when he starts beating that ass.
And you're going dark, too.
He beats that ass in a very fucking animalistic clinical way.
For reals.
Like a technical clinical way where he's seen the edge
because he has technique from the grim reaper he's got he's been to the edge of time for real
they both have come back him and matt brown it's not they carry with them some harry potter shit
yep it's like frighteners in this bitch this is why this could never be on television never
understand folks never dude i'm gonna make a. I haven't made a call yet.
I'm going to go with.
Okay.
Can I say?
Yeah.
I think I agree with you guys that if you looked at it on paper,
Rory is a more difficult challenge because he has more tools,
and he can knock guys out that are legit strikers like Tarek Safedine.
His knockout of Tarek Safedine was big because Safedine's like a very, very
skillful striker and Safedine ran
a clinic on Nate Marquardt to win the Strikeforce
welterweight title. It was a clinic.
Clinic of leg kicks and technique and footwork.
He's a really good striker.
So for Rory to knock him out the way he did
is pretty stunning. It's Rory's interchanges
between wrestling and striking that can make
a big difference in this fight. Because Rory's
fluid in that.
Whereas Stephen Wonderboy Thompson,
unless he figures out a way to put Rory on his back early and shake him up,
the way Bosey tried to do,
but the danger with that is Rory has a wicked fucking guard.
He's fast off of his back.
He moves quick, and he tries to set up sweeps and omoplattas.
He went to a draw on Metamoros.
Right, and you might not have seen it before,
but it is legit as fuck.
He went to a draw with JT Torres.
He did well.
Do you understand, folks?
I mean, you don't understand.
This is like the top of the food chain
Brazilian jiu-jitsu competitors.
He's a killer.
He's in that breed.
He's also in his homeland.
Exactly.
So if Rory McDonald can go to the ground at that high of a level and survive without getting
tapped, got really close to getting tapped, his arm got jacked up.
He really did get.
But he didn't tap.
He was in trouble.
Oh, his arm was fucked.
He was saying.
Super fucked.
And he had a fight like three weeks later, four weeks later.
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Yep.
Nuts.
He's a mad man.
He's also the Canadian serial killer.
But dude, I'm telling you, man, one of the things that came about of him being on my
podcast is people got to really understand you're only seeing him in his game face.
He's a great guy.
So of course he seems like he's a psycho.
No, no.
But when he was on the podcast-
He's hilarious.
When he was on this podcast, people got a chance to see him as an actual person.
And they're like, oh, I've only been seeing you when you're competing
no he's the best
dude
me and him
have had some
great nights
at nightclubs
the best
this is a perfect
example of what
we were talking about
we were talking about
with Connor
this is a guy
that should be applauded
he is a fucking
intelligent
savage
here's a superstar
who's never won a belt
exactly
face of Canada
never won a belt he came that close still Canada. Exactly. Never won a belt.
He came that close.
Still didn't win the belt.
Good lord, Joe.
There you go, Joe.
Hey, B, you know when I say dick or down?
Yeah.
That came from him.
Wow.
At the time I was single.
Look at that face, man.
He was single.
There's a bunch of girls in Vegas.
He goes, it's time to separate that mother hen from the goose and dig him down.
Oh, he's good.
That's a William McDonald quote.
And I went, what the fuck did you just say?
And I had to write it into my phone to remember the next morning.
He's an animal, man.
Separate that.
That's mother heads.
Because there's one girl taking care of all of them.
That's a funny piece of advice.
He's good.
He's the best.
Listen, dude.
His nose looks different.
He's hilarious.
Well, he's took a lot of shots, man.
Yep.
The Robbie Lawler fight, he got his nose destroyed.
Yep.
Wonder boy.
You mean Wonder Man.
He's 33.
He's a really good dude, man. He's a really good dude. Yeah. I'm a big fan. They're both great guys. They're both great guys. There got his nose destroyed. Wonderboy? You mean Wonderman. He's 33. He's a really good dude, man.
He's a really good dude. I'm a big fan.
They're both great guys.
You know both of them pretty well, right? Really, really well.
Training partners for a long time. But
Roy McDonald, just for the good of the
sport, if he wins and tests his free agency,
it helps the growth of the sport. But let me just say
this about Wonderboy. Wonderboy
is extraordinary in his ability to
close the distance and land these
like thunderous shots
out of nowhere.
Probably the best in the world.
His combinations are so fluid
that they're enough
for him to land
one or two hard shots
in every exchange.
Yes.
And if he does that,
if he somehow or another
can tempt Rory
into some hypnotic dance
and do some high levellevel shit on him,
it's all in his ability to stuff the takedown.
If he feels super confident in his ability to stuff the takedown
because he's been training with Weidman so much...
He hasn't been training with him.
I'm going for this fight,
but up until then, it made a big difference in his technique
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and his understanding of how to stuff takedowns.
His takedown stuffing is at a very high level.
It absolutely
has something to do with training with Weidman, but it's
not saying that he's so silly that he
would substitute that and not have a high
level wrestler test him. He's not
dumb. He's a smart guy, and so is
his dad. If I can call, I think Roy
eats his lunch. That's what I think.
I think Wonderboy's going to win. I love
both of them.
I am 100% 50-50
on this fight.
100%.
Just to be controversial
because you know
how I am, guys.
I'm going with...
Hey, are you a rebel?
I'm going with Wonderboy.
Yeah.
Wonderboy by knockout,
Brian, the kick knockout.
Well, listen.
If there's anybody
who can knock him out,
it's Rory.
It's Wonderboy.
If people get mad
at me being noncommittal,
it's not because I like both of these gentlemen.
It's really honestly because this sport is
so fucking crazy.
It's whoever shows up tonight.
Mike Bisping knocked out
Luke Rockhold in the first round.
I woke up my fucking baby. My baby fell asleep.
I finally put him to sleep.
First time ever I put him to sleep. Mike knocks
him out. I love Mike. Good, but I went, oh, shit.
My kids started crying.
I'm like, fuck, Mike.
I even texted him.
I went, you woke up my kid.
It was worth it.
Oh, that's hilarious.
I wish Mike.
I felt like crying when Bisping won.
I felt like crying.
10 fucking years.
I was happy for him.
I wish he hadn't gotten on top of the fence and gone, fuck you.
That was a little. Whatever. It's a fight. He was on a and gone, fuck you. That was a little.
Whatever.
It's a fight.
He was on a roller coaster ride of emotions.
Yeah.
But him winning the fight and winning the world title like that, you can't fault him for that.
No.
Talk to him when the dust settles.
Talk to him on Monday and he's barely back to Michael Bisping.
Bisping, Dan Heston, two UFC title.
They both walk away.
It's the best fucking Wizard of Oz story of all time.
I've never seen a knockout like that.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Oh, my God.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Now, here's the question.
Here's the question.
Can Rory threaten him enough with takedowns to get him off of his game of striking?
Rory can kick, too.
I don't like how close Wonderboy's coming to him.
Or does Rory decide that all that training with Raymond Daniels
has made him comfortable enough with a
legit high-level karate striker
that he thinks he can control the distance. Look at the
sideways. He's just sideways. Rory's
smart though. Oh, Jesus. Well,
Daniels fights sideways too, which is one of the
interesting things because Thompson
is one of the few guys that can pull off that stance.
It's a total front-leg
sidekick. Do you know anyone else?
Liotto? No, but Liotto doesn't
do it as good as him. He used to back in the day.
Justin Scoggins does it very well.
That flyweight kid? Yeah.
He does it very well. Very well.
He's one of the, maybe the best at it.
He might be the best because he moves better.
He moves fantastic. He moves like a fucking ninja.
He's a high level kid.
That's got a lot of potential. But if you can pull that stance off and control with that front moves like a fucking ninja. He's a high-level kid that's got a lot of potential. But
if you can pull that stance off and control
with that front leg like a jab,
there's a lot of guys that aren't ready for that.
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God, that fucking left leg is wound up for a ninja.
See, when Baltalini fought Raymond
Daniels, what did he do?
Oh, shit!
Oh, my goodness!
You sneaky fucker!
That was scary, see?
Introduction of danger. Introduction of danger.
Oh shit.
Introduction of danger.
Introduction of-
He's so smart.
Very, very important.
It's like being in the brain.
Very important.
He's a killer, man.
He's a straight up killer.
Well, he trains at TriStar, and TriStar's heavy, deep-ended leg runs.
For us, a beast on the ground.
For us, Donna Hurs comes up there.
Oh, look at this.
Donna Hurs comes up there.
So those guys are All about leg runs
Oh guys
Faraz
Faraz the hobby apparently
Is not down with the ketogenic diet
Really
Yeah yeah yeah
I would love to talk to him about that
Because I'm an idiot
Faraz is so smart
And he's smarter than me
That worries me
Dude
Hey Faraz
Don't talk me out of my fucking diet
I like that dude
You look good bro
I like it
I'm very happy with your keto
Your keto body
He might not be correct
I don't know who's correct.
I mean, and it might not be.
Whoa, nice counters here.
Dude, Wonderboy's so fucking fast.
He's also so confident.
Rory's throwing head kicks, man.
Rory can kick, guys.
He can kick, and also it keeps him at a distance where he can head kick Thompson,
but Thompson has to move forward to counter with that punch.
So if he can get that head kick off as quick as he just did,
it gives Wonderboy something
to think about.
Hey, guess what?
Hold on a second, dude.
Sorry.
Because Wonderboy is always used to fighting on the outside.
So if Rory can be the guy on the outside because he threatens with that head kick, it changes
the whole dynamic.
Because Wonderboy has to come in, you're thinking?
Exactly.
It looks like he's fighting.
He's mirroring Wonderboy's style, right?
That's what it looks like.
He also has the best jab at 170 in the world.
Yeah, he's got a very good jab. He looks like he's mirroring
his exact style, though. Same stance,
everything. Look.
What's interesting, if he can threaten more
with the head kick, that's really interesting. If he can hide
it behind those punches.
Damn. Not really, right?
No? No, they don't have the same stance.
One guy's orthodox, one guy's southpaw.
It always looks like that.
But they look like... No, no, no. the same stance. One guy's orthodox, one guy's southpaw. It always looks like that. Yeah, that's actually. But they look like.
It's like a mirror.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I know what you're saying.
He's mirroring him in terms of he's standing much more sideways than he usually does too.
Yes.
Yeah.
Well, he's done a lot of sparring with Daniels.
And he understands how to negate that front leg kick.
See, that front leg kick is way more effective if you're slightly square.
Because you fight like a Thai fighter, you expose that front.
And TIE fighters, they throw a lot of teeps,
but they don't necessarily
throw the same kind of sidekicks
unless they have some sort of other background
as well. Rory's biggest advantage, he's
so smart and can put it all together.
He's very George St. Pierre-esque.
Oh yeah, man. No, he's legit
as fuck.
Not even close, though. The switch spinning back kick, yeah. Well, he's legit as fuck. Oh
The switch spinning back kick yeah, well that's the thing see training with this training with Raymond Daniels I like both these guys but training with Raymond Daniels prepares you for that
No, I'm just kidding I love both these guys but see that front leg sidekick style.
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Like, Baltalini beat that down.
Hands down.
Oh, that front leg sidekick is sweet.
That's a nice sidekick.
Oh, it's so slick.
Hey, Brennan, you keep it down, all right?
That's the benefit of sidekick.
Oh, here we are.
Here we go.
Elbows in the clinch.
Oh, rough.
Oh, please.
Rory tries to get you back, man.
When you hit Rory, even if you hit him with that front leg sidekick kick He gets mad. That maple syrup gets boiling. He's a fucking Canadian gangster
Boiling in his blood
Don't say that
He's a bad motherfucker this kid
It's so stupid
That maple syrup gets boiling. The fuck are you talking about?
You know what's interesting when you see a kid like Rory or you see someone like
Like Johnson
Like Johnson
Fucking tell my shop says, you know, Schaub cracks me up.
You know what's interesting about both of these guys is they're going to get better.
If they don't get physically injured in this fight to the point where it incapacitates them and stops their training,
these guys are going to get better because of this fight because they're in that prime period.
So what he has to get going.
What you're looking at right here is some of the best movement and striking in 170 that you're going to find
today. One versus two, son.
Yeah. And as far as MMA
striking, these guys are god damn
as legit as it gets. Elite of the
elite. The upper echelon. You're looking
at the one percenters of one percent right now.
It doesn't get any better. That's what's fascinating.
Standing on the outside watching that, I'm watching
that and I'm going, these guys are going to get better. It's a chess
match. For Rory, I'm a little scared.
If he loses this one, it's a little tough.
What is the fighter of 2025 going to look like?
I mean, how goddamn good are these break dancers slash jujitsu artists with ridiculous karate skills?
It might hit a saturation point.
Look at boxing. Look at this dive it? Ridiculous karate skills. It might hit a saturation point. Look at boxing.
Look at this.
Boxing from the 1900s to.
Look at this dive, son.
Danger.
Danger, Will Robinson.
Dude.
Danger, Will Robinson.
And how about Thompson with a slick getaway?
Like, not today, son.
Turn and run.
Professional defense right there.
Beautiful.
That's just standard pro.
And that's his buddy, Raymond Daniels.
Turn and run.
He's saying, get off me, son. This is such his buddy, Raymond Daniels. Get off me, son.
This is such an extreme.
Look at that corner.
Raymond Daniels for us.
What?
What is Raymond Daniels' specialty?
He's a karate champion.
He's a karate champion.
You have to acknowledge him.
He also fights in glory.
You have to acknowledge Raymond Daniels.
Listen, I can't believe you don't know who he is.
I will rip your dick off like a chimpanzee if you don't acknowledge him.
Guys, it makes my asshole.
My dick went.
Guys, sorry.
Because I was rough. No, guys, my asshole. My dick went... Guys, sorry. Because I was rock hard for this fight.
No, guys, I was asking a fake question for the episode.
I clenched up like, say, please God, let me not have heard that.
I agree.
Who's Raymond Danz?
My fucking heart hurts.
He's one of the top kickboxers in the world.
Top kickboxers in the world, I know.
There you go.
Fucking know what he is.
I was asking you guys to see if you knew.
Nicky Holtzkin Nikki Holtzkin
And um
Who?
Joe
Joseph
What's his last name?
Faltalini
You don't know his name
Faltalini
Those are the only guys
That beat him
And uh
They both beat him
The same way
I remember that
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Muay Thai
High guard
Just a lot of leg kicks
Yep
Thompson's not
Thrown enough There's a lot of Pro wrestling. Thompson's not thrown enough.
There's a lot of pro wrestling fans like,
Brian is seriously an asshole.
Does he not understand?
It goes telling him.
Why don't you shut up and let Joe and Brendan talk, you fucking asshole?
You will never get to fight for the title.
Because I have opinions.
Quick little sneaky knee to the body
Dude I'm sweating
I don't feel credit
You need to take a break
Well I always feel
Like Rory brings a queasiness
I don't want either guy to lose
I don't want either guy to lose
Rory's a terrifying individual
But Wonderboy
He's a fucking
Whip smart
There's more pressure on Rory
Super sharp
There's just a lot of pressure on Rory, man.
Face of Canada.
He's going to free agency.
Wonderboy's going to be fine, even though he's 33.
No, dude.
I don't think that affects Rory the same way it affects a regular person.
I disagree.
I think he fights harder.
That Robbie Lawler fight was goddamn chaos.
I rewatched that yesterday.
Best fight of the fucking century.
Oh, my shit.
I rewatched that today.
It's amazing.
I can't even tell. That's how high I am.
Time travel.
Time travel.
Motherfucker, I'm time traveling.
Goddamn, that wee time travel.
I re-watched.
By the way, I was going through my DVR because I was running out of space.
Yeah, that DeLorean.
And I came across this fight, the Rory McDonald, Robbie Lawler fight, and I had to watch a
little bit of it again.
It was just like, Jesus Christ.
Dude, he told me when he got hit, it went white.
It just all went white.
He couldn't see.
So he just had to sit down.
Oh my God.
That's terrible.
The fight was chaos.
What a badass.
He goes, my nose was jamming into my, it felt like it was jamming in my eye sockets.
He's moving just the right amount away from Wonderboy's punches.
He's so calculated, man.
It's really interesting.
He's the first guy to give Wonderboy real problems with his timing.
Yeah, because Matt Brown said, I don't give a fuck.
I've been dead and just walked through it.
Well, maybe it was a different Wonderboy, too.
Obviously, Wonderboy's gotten better at stuff and takedowns and training with wrestlers.
True, but Matt Brown still got hit and just walked through it.
Roy's not getting really hit.
He's standing on that outside.
Yeah, no.
With footwork.
Unquestionably, man.
And Rory is threatening him everywhere.
He does something different every fight, too.
Rory comes up with a new bag of tricks every fight.
Well, he does that once.
Oh, that front leg sidekick is legit, son.
Yeah, it is.
But if Rory can slide back with it,
if he sees the leg come up and he lets his body go with it
It's not as bad serious weapon right? Okay?
That's the that's the benefits of leaving your leg out there Eddie
Do you remember us talking about this like 10 15 years ago? Oh good. That's a great shot members talking about those karate guys
I'm like they're coming man and Roy. And Roy can wrestle, my man.
There's these guys that can throw these fucking kicks.
I've seen them.
I've seen these guys.
Oh, great elbow.
They're going to learn how to do everything else.
Sure.
Yep.
Dude, Wonderboy and I have...
Oh!
Kick to the body.
Roy's blocking it, though.
But those shots to the body suck, dude.
They'll add up, too.
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They'll pay dividends.
Fuck yeah, they do.
It's like investing.
And it's a five-round fight, man.
It's a long fight.
Oh!
That didn't land.
Don't kid yourself.
The more this fight goes on, the more those body shots are going to mean something.
Dude, me and Wanderboy have fought on multiple cards because we had the same manager, so
that's the way sometimes it lines up.
And Wanderboy's dad trains him, and he'd be in the back crying.
I'd be like, this guy's about to get his ass whooped.
And he'd go out there and starch dudes.
Fucking starch dudes.
Because whenever I see a guy cry,
I'm like, you're fucked, bro. He'd go out there
and fuck dudes up.
Yeah, he can handle it. He's just going through it,
gets it out of his system and goes out there and performs.
I was like, damn, I feel like crying.
Like a man. I feel like crying.
How often do guys quit from leg
kicks to the arms? Like, are there
fighters that are just like, fuck that, I'm done?
What's his name? I mean, that guy quit. Broke his arms.
What happened? Well, Frank Shamrock with Kung Lee.
Recently. What was his name? The guy who got
armbarred by Jacare, who just
fought recently? Chris Camosi. Yeah, he
was, his knees broke that dude's arms.
Chris Camosi did it to Joe Riggs.
There's people out there that quit from leg kicks.
There's some fights.
Leg kicks.
Remember?
Remember when homeboy...
Wouldn't the arms hurt more?
Wouldn't the arms hurt more?
Legs are bad.
It depends, man.
It really depends.
Dude, remember when...
It depends where on the arm, too.
Like, if you kick someone here, like right here, it's significantly easier for you to
absorb than if you get kicked here.
Dude, who's homeboy the Dutch kickboxer in front of the UFC?
Did I make sense with that? No, I didn't
Anthony Hardonk made a guy quit
It's easier to block a kick here than it is to block a kick here
If you're blocking a kick higher towards your hand
You're going to break it
Your arm gets real weak
If you get kicked in the middle, like up here
Nerve damage
You're probably going to get your arm broken
But if you get kicked here, you might be okay.
The same kick here
might hurt the other guy's shin.
It's a big difference between catching
an elbow and catching a shin,
but you still don't want to. Same with legs, though, John.
Same with legs.
You still don't want to. You can definitely
break a guy's foot.
See, one of the things about Wonderboys,
he throws in-step kicks,
which is really interesting because his distance is way better.
It might not be like the best thing for leg kicks.
Like leg kicks, you want to use shin bones.
Yeah, that's why I'm in.
With leg kicks, you want to use shin bones.
But with, he can throw in-step kicks that are super powerful.
He doesn't throw those traditional Muay Thai kicks though.
Right.
Well, he does those too. Very rarely. He doesn't throw those traditional Muay Thai kicks, though. Well, he does those, too.
Very rarely.
He can do those, too.
But what I'm saying is there's a difference when a guy is really good with the instep
that gives you almost an extra foot of area where you're impacting.
Except, like, a lot of the really good Dutch kickboxers, like Ernesto Hoest,
he would wrap that foot around the back of your head.
He would blam.
So he would really tuck you into like like when you like flex your foot
He would tuck you to sleep right in there because it hit the back
Oh, yeah in the back bang bang he'd punch he'd jab punch and then just throw it
Yeah, throw it over the top of your shoulder and chop. How tall is he six four at least?
He's a very tall man. I met about much. That's. He's a very nice guy, too, and so skillful.
What a great kickboxer he was.
Amazing kickboxer.
Rory's so cautious with that right hand.
But what I'm saying is, like, Wonderboy offers, like, a lot of weird shit that if you don't prepare for him,
which Rory clearly did bringing in Raymond Daniels,
he could be a real problem to you because his distance is so much more than you think it should be.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Roy's closing that distance really well.
God, Wonderboy's so fucking quick.
Wonderboy answers back with speed.
He does, but look, he's a sheeta.
§57Transcript · 2:35:54–2:38:37
Moving very well here, but the thing about Wonderboy is you've got to mind all your P's
and Q's.
You've got to fucking dot your I's and cross your A's.
For 25 minutes.
For 25 minutes?
Just like running around Michael J. White.
You're right. For 25 minutes or you're going to sleep michael j white god damn
it i'm just saying my fucking peas and cues michael j smith michael j smith slash white
you watch your fucking peas and cues michael j q hey buy him a drink and thank him for his work
and shut the fuck up i love the I love the spun. It ends there.
Oh, see.
Ooh, beautiful kick by Wonderboy.
Wonderboy just missed a beautiful kick. He changed to Wonder, man.
Dude, let me tell you something, man.
I'm so impressed with the controlling of distance by Rory.
The way he uses that high left hand, that guard.
Look how he does this.
He leans forward with his arms straight up in the air on the left side.
And that's something he used against Tyrod Woodley.
He shut down Woodley's right hand.
Look at this.
He just jumped a half guard.
Wonderboy.
He just jumped a half guard.
He's looking for that.
He's going right to the legs.
Look at this.
He's going right to the legs.
If he swings so he gets on top, this would be brilliant.
Oh, my goodness.
He's going after his legs.
Oh, my goodness.
Hammerfist.
Look at this shit.
Oh, my goodness. Oh, slipp Look at this shit. Oh my goodness.
Oh my God.
Slippy, slippy.
This is it.
Gentlemen, we have a very even fight here.
Greasy butt gets right back up to his feet.
Yep.
And Wonderboy is slick as fuck.
Beautiful fucking technique by Wonderboy.
Look at that right hand.
Hey, what a fucking chess match.
What a brilliant chess match.
I love it.
This is no different than Steph Curry versus LeBron James.
It's just brilliant.
That left hand that Wonderboy just landed moving away.
Very slick.
God damn it.
Look how Wonderboy fights, too.
Total hands down.
MMA at its finest, man.
Total hands down.
Total hands down.
And these punches are coming up from the hip.
Look at this.
Oh!
And he will blitzkrieg on you.
But it's not landing, though, is it?
Roy's doing a great job minimizing the damage.
Great job.
And constant pressure.
So, again, Wonderboy, as we were saying before, he's got to move back more.
Causes more.
It's a little bit less natural.
The moving back and jumping in.
Whereas Rory, Rory's just sort of plodding forward.
Just keeping the distance with that long, straight left hand.
And threatening every time they engage.
Hey, good luck judging this fight.
What happened?
Fuck, dude.
TV went down.
Oh, God.
Jamie?
Jamie?
God, Jamie is the man.
It's back.
It's back.
Oh, my God.
Calm down, guys.
Calm down.
Everybody calm down.
We were ready to tweet.
Fuck you.
Fuck you, somebody. Fuck you,. Fuck you. Fuck you, somebody.
Fuck you, DirecTV.
Fuck you, America.
Who is it?
Donald Trump?
Who did this?
Fuck you, Ted Cruz.
Fuck you, ISIS.
Fuck everybody.
They finally got those.
Wow.
Oh, kick to the body.
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Oh, yeah.
Come on.
God, good luck judging this fight, man.
Oh, my God.
Mastery.
It's mastery.
This is interesting, man.
Oh, that's a beautiful shot.
Someone's going to land something major.
Maybe not, man.
This could be a five-round affair that's very similar to what we're seeing right now.
If both guys keep their fitness, they're going to realize there's an imminent threat in any kind of like, any opening, any taking chances.
Roy's going to have to grapple
to test the fitness of Thompson.
He's been trying.
He's been trying though.
He's been trying.
Not really.
Not really.
That fucking
that right hand
that he's putting in front of his face
is very nice.
I got Wonderboy at this point.
Well both guys look really good.
Dude this is a tough fight to judge.
Absolutely.
Who the fuck fights like Wonderboy man?
Look at this guy.
Switching stances.
Hands down low. I feel like he's in his house though right now yeah I'm saying like I'm not gonna get tired he could do this for ten
rounds yeah or he has to force a grappling well if he starts to feel like
Rory slowing down a little bit and he can relax he can do more of this shit
this is this is his style man you you should open up one of those psychic places.
I'm telling you, I had a feeling, bro.
I had a feeling.
I'm telling you.
I had a feeling.
I'm telling you, Wonder Boy's going to win this fight.
He's going to win this fight.
You know the odds are pretty even.
I know, but I have an overwhelming feeling that he's going to win.
You and a shitload of other people.
You're a crazy person, Brian.
You and Mama Cleto.
I said it before the fight.
A ton of people did.
Not the way I did it, though.
Not with my conviction.
You're a crazy person, Brian.
I don't know how you're going to judge this fight.
You're a crazy person.
You could say Roy's winning because of octagon control.
I don't know.
Listen, this is an awesome fight.
It's also in Canada, you motherfuckers.
Listen, seriously, this is a fucking awesome fight. This is an interesting fight. It's also in Canada, you motherfuckers. Listen, seriously, this is a fucking awesome fight.
This is an interesting fight.
It's a fun chess match.
This is a super high-level affair between two of the most dangerous guys on the planet.
That guy in Rory's corner looks like Rory in 20 years.
They look very similar.
Same oblong face.
Could be his brother or something.
It might be his dad.
His dad used to be his trainer.
Wonder Boy Thompson's a cutie pie, by the way.
If you're talking about top five.
Hey, no more of that.
We can't do that anymore.
Top five guys, though?
We do that too many times on this show.
People get mad.
They get mad?
Too much gay stuff.
It's not gay.
I'm just saying.
It's progressive.
I understand.
You're trying to get auditions.
If you were aesthetically looking at fighters and you had to choose models, he'd be in your
top five.
Fuck you.
Wonder Boy?
I don't want to do this anymore.
We've done this too many times. Alan Jobian, number one. Yeah, and Wonder'd be in your top five. Fuck you. Wonder Boy? I don't want to do this anymore. We've done this too many times.
We've been over it.
Alan Jobin, number one.
Yeah, and Wonder Boy's in the top five.
No.
This makes me uncomfortable.
He's also Wonder Man.
He's 33.
Game over.
Well, he's Wonder Boy to me.
There's no 33-year-old models.
I'm old, bro.
There's no 33-year-old models.
Did you ever see The Natural with Robert Redford?
Yes.
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No, I have not.
It's Wonder Boy.
That's where the name came from.
Yeah, it has to be Wonder Man.
He's 33.
No, no, no, no.
Robert Redford was like 50.
He came back. If I'm the kid, he's the boy. That's embarrassing. He's not in some runs. He's 33. No, no, no, no. Robert Redford was like 50, came back.
If I'm the kid, he's the boy.
That's embarrassing.
He runs.
That's embarrassing.
He looked great.
He looked great.
His skin was a little loose, but in that big bone structure.
His skin's a little loose.
Oh, look at that.
Wonder Boy can catch you from every angle.
I like saying obvious things.
Oh, look at that sidekick.
That's sidekicks.
You know what?
If I was a feminist writer, I'd be really mad at that movie, The Natural.
Why?
Because some evil woman took away the genius of some very masculine man.
How old is that movie?
These dudes are old as fuck.
These dudes are.
It wasn't even photographs.
It was all just cartoons.
God damn.
I have never heard of it.
What?
It's a great movie, Brent.
It's a really good movie.
The Natural. I'll check it out. It's about baseball in the early days. Oh? It's a great movie, Brent. It's a really good movie. It's a natural.
I'll check it out.
It's about baseball in the early days.
Oh, yeah.
I'll check it out.
Back before black people figured out how to play it.
Yeah, until black people in Cuba said, huh?
Are you going to bat with a ball and make money?
We have way better genetics.
Wait until they fucking find out about hockey.
We're all fucked.
And we live on an island.
This is a crazy fight, man.
And we play baseball better than you.
And we're coming. We're coming, man. We're fucked. You guys all fucked. And we live on an island. This is a crazy fight, man. And we play baseball better than you. And we're coming.
We're coming, man.
We're fucked.
You guys are fucked.
That's why we need Steve Garvey.
Unless you're Randy Johnson, you're fucked.
Do you remember Steve Garvey?
He had forearms that didn't even look like they belonged on a person.
It's like, who shaved down that gorilla?
He gave it a baseball bat.
This forearms, it was almost like his forearms were like someone sawed off the last
Reggie Jackson was that way?
Four or five inches
Really?
It was so thick, it was retarded
Hey Brendan, did you grow up a baseball fan?
Yeah
Did you ever play like charades, like guess who I am and you like bat like a guy?
You did that too?
Yeah
I had Steve Garvey as well
This is my Steve Garvey, I still got it
You know some things you'll never forget?
It was just like
And people knew what it was? Brian Downing, remember Brian Downing from the Angels? This is my Steve Garvey. I still got it. You know some things you'll never forget? It was just like...
And people knew what it was?
Brian Downing.
Remember Brian Downing from the Angels?
No, I'm a little younger.
Ron Carew?
No, I'm talking like...
Brian Sandberg, Mark Grace.
We're talking about baseball while MMA is going on.
That's the Companion, son.
Look at Wonderboy counter and catch him.
Fight Companion just jumped the shark.
We just jumped the shark. When Eddie starts talking baseball, I'm fucking in. Hey, man, Wonderboy just and catch him. This fight campaign just jumped the shark. We just jumped the shark.
When Eddie starts talking baseball, I'm fucking in.
Hey, man, Wonderboy just landed a slick combination.
Yes, he did.
He's answering back.
I think I started this baseball thing and I apologize.
No, I dig it.
Look at Wonderboy with these combinations.
Life is too short to watch baseball.
It takes too long.
But what about soccer?
I've been trying to watch soccer lately.
Soccer's fun, brother. Right leg, brother Soccer's fun, right?
Especially now with the Copa America Cup
Yeah, it's been interesting, man
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America's in the semis
I'm not really trying to do this by nationality
You have to
Nope, nope, no, no
You have to
Nope, nope, I give up
USA
This is the first time ever in my life
I've had a chance to acknowledge athletes from other countries
as if the countries that we all enjoy watching perform, I'm not a part of this competition.
You are.
You're a goddamn American, Joe.
I'm enjoying watching various.
Just like you cheer for Chris Weidman against Jacare.
I would not.
I can't.
I'm just kidding.
Can't do it.
I don't allow myself.
It's your job.
I don't allow myself. It's job But it's I don't allow myself
It's just a reason
It's American
It's a reason to unite
Like for whatever
Whether it's bullshit
Or you're right
It's like legit
It's like a
Whatever
Let's have a reason to unite
Let's just
Let's fucking start
USA versus Columbia
Just so we unite
Fuck you Columbia
On this day
Fuck you Columbia
Maybe
Exactly
Right
Yeah there's nothing wrong with that
Allegiance
There's nothing wrong with that. Allegiance.
There's nothing wrong with getting down on the- I have a USA soccer jersey and I wear it proud.
Naked, just a hard-on soccer jersey.
A niece.
Soccer jersey for Elton John sunglasses.
Daniel Boone raccoon hat out of a real raccoon that he caught eating out of his garbage.
He killed it with a rock.
Wonderboy is impossible to touch.
You can't touch Wonderboy. You can't touch him. What am I talking about, Brian? Any idea at all? Sorry, buddy. Wonder Boy is impossible to touch. You can't touch Wonder Boy.
What am I talking about, Brian? Any idea at all?
Sorry, buddy. I'm so into this fight, I can't help it.
Oh!
Good laugh. Good jab
by Willie. I heard
Tiger or something from one of your guys.
Definitely no Tigers. Don't worry about it, bro.
I'm saying I love soccer. We're talking about Charlie
Sheen and AIDS.
Now I'm watching this thing of beauty, this poetry in motion.
Both of them.
But Wonderboy is untouchable.
You can't touch Wonderboy.
He's got a hickey on his neck.
Why don't you narrate it for us, Brian?
He's got a hickey.
His sidekick is beautiful.
He's catching easy.
He's winning this fight, and he's winning it decisively.
Who's winning this fight?
Wonderboy.
No, you're full of shit.
He keeps hitting Rory.
Octagon control, Brian.
No, he keeps hitting Rory. He keeps hitting him. Let's all be honest. We haven't been paying attention enough to say who's winning this fight? No, you're full of shit. He keeps hitting Rory. Octagon control, Brian. No, he keeps hitting Rory.
He keeps hitting him.
Let's all be honest.
We haven't been paying attention enough to say who's winning.
I've been watching it like a hawk.
As I was breaking down USA Hockey versus Columbia, I was watching like a hawk.
No, Wonderboy hasn't been touched.
I might be lying.
He's punching Rory over and over again.
Not hard, but he's connecting to his face.
Brian, you might want to stay offline for a couple of days after this one.
I'm just telling you.
You might want to lay low.
Definitely don't check your Twitter.
You might want to lay low.
Oh.
Definitely stay away from Facebook.
I'm Brian Callen, kids.
I'll be in Florida.
I'll be in all the comedy in Naples.
June 23rd, 24th, 25th.
Come see me.
You might want to lay low.
Sometimes it's better to just watch it and breathe.
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You don't have to talk.
Listen.
I get excited.
Look at this. That was a left hook from Rory. Watch this. Watch this, boys. Watch this. I've made breathe. You don't have to talk. Listen, I get excited. Look at this.
That was a left hook from Rory.
Watch this, watch this, boys.
Watch this.
I've made mistakes.
That didn't land, B.
No, it did.
It did.
No, that didn't land.
No, it did.
That landed.
Of course it did.
Talking a little too decisively.
If you're going to commentate on the fights.
I get excited, bro.
I can't help it.
It'd be better if you're more educated.
Do it in a Brazilian accent, at least.
Brasil, Brasil.
Make it entertaining.
You want to say something, say it in the accent.
Pretend.
So we get something out of it.
What he's trying to say is, pretend you're some ridiculous person that we don't know.
Instead of our friend Brian who's saying retarded shit.
All right.
I like the Brazilian, your Brazilian voice.
So if you're going to say something about the fight, just give me an accent.
I'll do him as an Englishman.
Hey, have you ever gotten to get...
Hold on a second. Oh, that to get... Hold on a second.
That was terrible.
Hold on a second.
Have we ever gotten him together with Hanato?
No.
What?
Hanato who?
That would be hilarious.
How is that possible?
Wait a minute.
We've talked about it forever.
How is that possible?
We've talked about that forever.
How is that possible?
Exactly.
Oh, my God.
This week.
Brian, are you around this week?
No, I'm going to Florida.
When are you leaving for Florida?
Wednesday.
I'll be leaving for the
Off the Hook Comedy Club in Naples
June 22nd to perform
June 23rd, 24th, and 25th. What's in
your fucking mouth? Pickles. What's today?
Don't chew into the mic, you fuck. I'm not.
You know how many goddamn complaints I get about you chewing into the mic?
If you smack into the mic. You just did.
I want to kill myself. Son of a bitch.
Stay off Twitter. I'm telling you
for at least a week. Guys, four minutes. I might want to lay low. I don't mean to talk to you. You might want to lay low. Son of a bitch. Stay off Twitter. I'm telling you, for at least a week. Guys, four minutes.
You might want to lay low.
I don't mean to talk to you.
You might want to lay low for a couple days.
I always do.
I always do anyway.
I've got to step up my Twitter game.
Guys, four minutes, 35 seconds.
That front leg sidekick is nasty.
Wonderboy's winning.
The difference between Wonderboy and anybody, well, Raymond Daniels for sure, but between
Wonderboy and a lot of guys that you'll spar is that he could hurt you with that front leg side kick to the body
The front leg side to the body's got like a real snap to it
Whereas a lot of guys they just they do it a lot of times
They touch you with the ball of the foot more than they're hitting you with like the side blade or the heel
But Wonderboy is stuffing it in there. He's too hard
Very nice Rory caught him with that left hand, that right hand. He's catching. He's catching. He got rocked. Very nice.
Rory caught him with that left hand.
That right arm across the face and that left arm extended, very interesting.
Almost like a George Foreman old school Archie Moore style.
I mean, come on.
Wonderboy's catching him.
Rory, you've got to think about octagon control, Brian.
It factors into the decision.
Does it matter when he's punching him, though, Brian?
Rory just caught him with the left hand. Look, he's landing stuff, too, though. Not really, Baba. I disagree. Listen, Brian. It factors into the decision. Does it matter when you're getting... When he's punching him, though, Brian.
He's landing stuff, too. Not really, Baba.
I disagree.
Honestly, this is a very good fight.
It's a great fight, but... Oh! Oh, the kick to the body!
Rory just caught him with a left hook hard.
I know it's true, but...
I know you want Rory to win, and I love
Rory, and I love... Just shut the fuck up.
Just shut the fuck up.
I hate to have to say that.
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Come on, man.
If Brian was a judge, we'd have to kill him.
Just watch the guy's damn fight.
Look, guys.
I think I'm being accurate here.
I'm being fair.
It's a very good fight.
Look at Rory's face.
The numbers would agree with you, Brian.
Oh, damn.
And his face.
Sneaky-ass right hand.
The CompuStrike would agree with you, Brian.
I'm just saying octagon control and significant strikes, Rory might be winning.
I don't know, man. And it's in fucking
Canada. Rory's not coming close
to winning, bub. He's just not. I'm sorry.
He's not. You don't know shit. I've been watching
this. Let's stop worrying about the end
of the goddamn fight and enjoy the fucking fight.
I am. Which is playing right in front of our eyes.
You guys are talking about soccer.
Stop arguing about who won while it's actually
happening, you fuckheads.
I'm not really mad.
Well, shit, you go off those.
I'm not really mad.
You're just passionate.
I'm just playing.
I'm sorry, baby.
I didn't mean it.
It just needs to stop.
It needs to stop.
You're passionate.
Well, control.
Well, that doesn't make sense.
Damn.
Jamie.
Listen, man.
Oh, look at this.
Rory pulled him to the ground.
Oh, my God.
Look at this.
God, does that. But again, the judges, when Roy pulled him to the ground. Oh, my God. Look at this. God, does that...
But, again, the judges, when you get pulled to the ground, they're viewing it as Wonder
Boy got a takedown.
Well, Roy is trying to attack him from his back.
He felt like that was a good idea, right?
Is that what happened?
Yeah.
Yeah, he pulled him.
He pulled him down, right?
I'm not imagining that.
No.
That fucking happened.
Wonder Boy with the hard elbows.
He got his guard passed.
That was the problem.
Hard elbows.
This might lose...
You can't pull side control.
You know what I mean?
You want to pull guard.
This might lose Roy the fight.
These Wonderboy elbows are pretty fucking hard.
The fight's so close and then when you pull
fucking side control.
Eddie, you were one of the first guys to say that.
It was before one of Crow Cop's
fights. You and I were talking
and you were saying when you get a guy who's a
real experienced striker, they can generate
some power in a real close area.
You were noticing that.
There was guys who could do ground and pound from inside the guard even.
Well, you see what Vanderlei and Pryde, back in the Pryde days,
you see Vanderlei, he wanted to stay standing,
but he was rarely in the guard.
Oh, he hurt him.
He hurt Rory.
He hurt Rory.
Oh, no.
Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. It looks like he hurt Rory's eye. I don't know what he hurt him! He hurt Rory! He hurt Rory! Oh, no. Oof. Oh, shit.
Oof.
Oh.
It looks like he hurt Rory's eye.
I don't know what he hit him with.
I think he hit him in the nose, but I think he hit him with a left hand.
Rory's covering up.
What did he hit him with?
Oh, yeah, he's bleeding heavy out of his nose.
His nose is fucked up.
It's that same nose that he broke in the Robbie Lawler fight.
Look at Wonderboy's cardio.
I know.
Did I really just say that it's the same nose he broke in the Robbie Lawler fight?
boys cardio did I really just say that's the same nose he broke in the Robbie Lollipop. Dude, 42 seconds left.
I was like, oh yeah, he's only got one of them.
That made my night.
That's so stupid.
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That's the same nose he broke in the Robbie Lollipop.
If I was UFC, I'd fire me.
You do.
I'd call me up right now.
Oh, I'd give you a bonus.
Enough.
I'd give you a fucking promotion.
I'd be like, that's enough. That's enough, you know
We've seen enough Brian Stan
Right family step in whichever says the safe
Rory's bleeding bad out of that nose man. That does not look good all jokes aside
That he used to breathe out of when he was five. Oh, wheel kick.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
That's the same nose he breathed out of when he was two.
He broke that same nose.
Yeah, that's the nose.
That's that nose.
He fucking...
First came out of his mom and smelled the fresh, sanitized air of the hospital room.
That's the same nose.
That's that same nose, son.
Okay, so Brian, since you're paying attention so closely,
much more than any of us,
you really do know how to judge a fight.
100% without a doubt, Wonderboy.
And without a doubt.
Yeah, and look at the strike numbers.
I'm sorry to say it.
It's 2,000.
Yeah.
What do you think?
It definitely looks like Thompson won the fight.
What do you think, Ejibra?
You think Rory McDonald might have got the nod
Because of black helicopters and chemtrails?
Because of Tower 7?
Did he get the nod?
Don't start with that shit again, okay?
Don't start with that scary shit
I'm kidding
I'm kidding, brother
Please don't go into it
I understand
But were you paying attention enough
To really give an honest reading of who won the fight?
Yes.
I have to say, Wonderboy definitely won.
Thank you.
I have to say, I'm way too high to be calling that fight.
I've had too many drinks.
I was super impressed with two things.
One, I was super impressed with Roy's weird defense he's using with that high left hand
and that right hand almost across his face like Archie Moore style.
And definitely he was really good at controlling the distance.
But I think as the rounds went on, you started to see Wonderboy getting a little more comfortable,
everlasting into that sniping, jumping back and forth style.
And that's when the tide started to change, it looked like to me,
where it started to establish that Wonderboy was getting slightly better in each exchange.
And that's what we talked about actually before the fight started.
I was saying if Wonderboy can land one or more punches in each exchange than Rory can,
that's significant and that adds up over time.
That's exactly what happened.
50-45? 50-45? That's Wonderboy happened. 50-45?
50-45?
That's Wonderboy.
Wonderboy.
50-45?
That's insane.
Boys, I've got to go do some stand-up comedy.
I love all three of you.
I love you too, bitch.
Jamie, I love you.
Jay, I love you.
I love you too.
I'll see you boys later.
And you were 100% correct on the scoring.
Good call, B.
You nailed it.
I know.
You know what, guys? Fighting is my secret garden, guys. So please tweet me. See how you interlocked correct on the scoring. I know. Good call, B. You nailed it. I know. You know what, guys?
Fighting is my secret garden, guys.
So please tweet me.
Please tweet me at Brian Callen.
Really, really high-level fight, man.
I think we can all agree this.
Sit down.
Sit down, Bubba, for one second.
Let's wrap this up.
Go ahead.
You don't have a show until...
You have a half hour.
Sit down.
Sit down.
Fuck those people.
I know.
You're Brian Callen.
You're Brian Callen.
There's always a guy.
But this was like a
§64Transcript · 2:55:09–2:57:56
super interesting style
fight, right? As well as...
It's almost the new blood, right?
I mean, Wonderboy is the new blood.
He just is. But so is Rory.
So is Rory. Rory's younger.
And more dynamic.
You have to give Wonderboy
the title shot here. For Rory,
it's a tough road because now he goes into free agency.
I make a call. Robbie Lawler
is the baddest motherfucker on the planet. Wonderboy will beat
him. I agree. He'll beat him the same way he beat
Johnny Hendricks. It's a very tough...
I agree 100% with Brian on that comment.
Yeah, but you can't
dismiss Tyron Woodley.
Yes, you cannot. They're already fighting.
He's not going to fight Woodley. Yes, you cannot. They're already fighting. He's not going to fight
against Johnny Henderson.
No, but I'm saying
that Robbie and Tyron Woodley
are fighting.
You can't pretend
that you know
what's going to happen
in that fight.
I can and I will.
That's what we're doing.
As usual.
What do you think
is going to happen
in that fight?
With Tyron Woodley
and Robbie Lawler.
Do you think you know
what's going to happen
in that fight?
I think that Robbie Lawler...
Are you on pills?
No, listen.
Did you have a Red Bull before this show?
One Red Bull.
Then I've got to get out of here.
Listen, let me drop this.
They're bullying Callan!
Robbie Lawler has something that I've never seen in a fighter,
and that is in round five, and I'm not exaggerating,
he's more pumped, has more energy than he does in round one,
and on top of that, there's
something indestructible about that
guy. Are you a theater major?
Yes, I am, and so is Paul Felder.
And I leave you with that fucking
thought. Brian Callen, off the
comedy, June 23rd, 24th.
B-R-Y-A-N
C-A-L-L-E-N
at Twitter. That fucking
guy. He's such a savage.
So funny.
He's such a fucking savage.
He's so funny.
He called it.
Did he leave?
Yeah, he's got to go.
He's got to show.
He's got to show.
I don't know where to show that.
So this is like exactly what we said
before the fight.
You know,
what I was saying,
that if Wonderboy can just get
a couple extra punches
in each exchange,
or one every now and again,
those are going to accumulate.
I don't like that open
hand. He landed a palm
to the face first. Rory is
young but he's had some miles on him.
Well he's had that Robbie Lawler fight
was absolutely brutal and this was a less
brutal fight but yeah
definitely took some shots. And Wonderboy for sure gets the
next title shot. He just beat the number
one guy in the world. Watching the Robbie Lawler fight again, I almost forgot.
Not really forgot, but I had to be reminded a little bit of how primal that fight was.
Barbaric.
Those guys bared it all.
But the thing is, I like Wonderboy's chances against Woodley or fucking Robbie Lawler.
He's super dangerous.
I like his chances against both of them.
He's super dangerous,
especially if they take a chance to try to hurt him.
See, the thing about him...
If they open up, it's not going to decision.
If you take a chance, he's going to capitalize on it.
He can do that little slide back,
§65Transcript · 2:57:58–3:01:50
counter left hand.
Fucking nasty, man.
And he can fight from southpaw or orthodox, too, man.
You know, when he fights from southpaw, a lot of it is those sidekicks, those front leg sidekicks.
But goddamn, man, he can do that from the left side, too.
He can throw those front leg sidekicks.
He's been doing karate since he was three.
Since he was in diapers.
He's literally that guy that you always joke about.
Eddie Brock would always joke about it.
He goes, if you took a dude who was doing karate from the time he was three,
and was like super ninja, that was like 52 and 0,
and you taught him how to stand up and avoid takedowns,
how good would he do against most of these strikers?
There you go.
You and I used to have these conversations.
It's funny for a title next.
It's almost like you created this dude with your imagination.
You know what other conversations we used to have is back in the dark days of the UFC
when it was underground on direct direct TV only only on satellite
Is the days where we have shows like this, you know on?
Networks with baseball scores on the bottom and they're in these big ESPN type studios
Remember that like one of these days that's gonna happen and it's it's like nothing now. Hey, what do you what do you do?
Where does Rory McDonald go from here? It's test of frequency
It's everywhere.
What do you do?
Where does Rory McDonald go from here?
He's tested for ANC.
Well, you know what?
It was a very close fight, but he lost a decision to Wonderboy, who right now is the best in the fucking world at standing up and doing this.
Doesn't matter.
That's sliding on the outside.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
What I'm saying is he's still a few years younger than Wonderboy, and I think he learns from this fight and gets even better.
But I think this is a goddamn wake-up call to the rest of the division.
This Wonderboy dude is legit as fuck.
And his angles and all this shit we're seeing, his creativity, this ability to stay in the pocket and not get hit nearly as much, throw a lot of dangerous shit.
Look at these angles, man.
And take shots, too.
Like, tagged him there with that left hand.
All I'm saying is if you're Roy McDonald, you lost the number one guy, now you lost the number two guy.
What do you do?
Go back to the drawing board.
You keep swinging.
You're 26 years old. You sign with the UFC again.
You don't test free agency.
Who knows?
Dude, when you say free agency, no one's saying that the UFC isn't going to counter the offer and they're going to come to a nice conclusion.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying if you're Roy, you just sign with the UFC and try fighting for the title again.
I think he could absolutely be a world champion, either in Bellator or in the UFC.
Bellator, no.
He could be a world champion in any organization.
No question, Bellator.
He's 26, man.
He has like four or five years before he hits his prime.
But what you're looking at with Wonderboy right now is one of the slickest, sneakiest strikers,
one of the best guys at moving back and countering long and tall.
I don't see anyone beat him.
I thought Wonderboy was his toughest style-wise matchup possible.
I think he beats Woodley.
I think he beats Robbie Lawler.
I think he smokes Robbie Lawler, to be honest.
That's so crazy.
It is crazy.
I don't know how you can be so confident.
I agree.
I just think if he got past Rory, that was his biggest test.
I thought, man, there's not a worse matchup.
A guy who can grapple, strike, do everything, and he's smart.
He's not going to take chances.
You beat him, you're off to the races.
Robbie Lawler's a barbarian, dude.
Straight barbarian, but he brawls.
And if you brawl with Wanderboy Thompson, that doesn't end well.
Maybe.
It's too calculated.
Maybe.
Or maybe Robbie catches him.
Ask his last seven opponents.
Maybe Robbie catches him the way Jake Allenberger caught him, and he puts him away.
That's entirely possible.
Yeah, but what do you do to Jake Allenberger?
Maybe he catches him the way.
Spinning back at the midnight.
Look, totally possible as well.
What I'm saying is nobody knows what's really going to happen until they get into it. see a guy like Robbie Lawler, I see a guy that's like, unless the physical punishment
that he's taken in these chaotic wars
with Hendrix and Rory,
unless that catches up with him, you're
looking at a goddamn barbarian.
When Robbie Lawler goes
to war, he goes to war with every
atom in his being. That picture has
blood on his arm, for God's sake. And you know who's
the most dangerous fucking fight for him? That dude
right to the right of him. Damien Maia? Fuck yeah.
He's not fighting him though. I know. He's fighting the champion.
But if he ever does, Damien Maia's dangerous
to everybody. Motherfucker.
§66Transcript · 3:01:52–3:05:53
When does he get the title shot? It's gonna be a while.
Well, you know what, man? Here's the thing.
I don't understand ratings.
It's all subjective. It seems
like there's some decisions that
get done when
one guy beats another guy and this guy agreed this guy was number three, and this guy agrees this guy's number two.
But you might have a different opinion rather than I do, and I think it's a subjective thing.
So I try to reserve.
But the UFC also trumps rankings.
Because if the UFC goes, well, we want Damien to fight, I don't want to get fucked ranking him four or three.
We don't want to fight him for the title next they're gonna make it happen well damien's an interesting guy
because he's older for sure and he's also fought for the title 85 yeah and what he's been doing to
guys when he gets them on the ground is nothing short of mauling gunner nelson they keep tossing
these young lines these starches yeah gunner nelson neil magnus ne Magny. In that sense, I'm
almost like the enemy of two different types of people
here. I'm the enemy of the people that want to
respect the rankings, because I
sometimes just want to see what happens.
I want to see what happens when guys fight certain guys.
It's one of the things that I don't necessarily
like about the idea of titles.
When I see a guy like Robbie Lawler,
I understand that he's the
world champion, I respect that, and it's fucking amazing. But really what I care is that Robbie Lawler like Robbie Lawler. I understand that he's the world champion. I respect that.
And it's fucking amazing.
But really what I care is that Robbie Lawler is Robbie Lawler.
Which he is.
Exactly.
Which he is.
And I want to see Robbie Lawler fight other guys that are intriguing.
What's better than Robbie Lawler versus Thompson?
Are you talking two completely different matchups?
100%.
100%.
And I'm with you.
100%.
Such a fun fight.
I like that fight as well.
I'm going to tell you, I also like Tyron Woodley.
Me too.
I like Tyron Woodley for the oh shit factor.
I like Tyron Woodley for his ability to close the distance.
And wrestle like a motherfucker.
Wrestle like a motherfucker and serious knockout power.
I like Tyron Woodley against almost anybody.
He's dangerous, man.
His striking is going to be trouble against these top guys, I think.
There's a lot of fucking high these top guys, I think.
There's a lot of fucking high-level guys in the 170 division.
And what's interesting to me about Damian Maia is I see what he does to guys like Rick Story.
And I see what he does to guys like Neil Magny.
Woodley, Damian Maia?
Woodley, Damian Maia? Woodley, Damian Maia?
Will we see this triangle-ish?
Or will we see Tyron Woodley with some ridiculous Nate Marquardt-esque
one-punch knockout?
Who in the fuck knows, man?
But I think that's a super powerful fight,
and a guy like Woodley ain't so fun to try
to take down either. Because you close the distance
on him, he hits hard, he's fast.
Ooh. Like Rory did here?
Like we dove from those legs? That really didn't pay off.
It looked good in the first round
though, didn't it? It looked cool, but
Did someone give Wonderboy the first
round? Yeah.
Two judges had it
50-45. What did you think about the first
round? If you had to guess,
based on your shadowy memory.
Yeah, right. Based on this fucking Pinot Noir memory.
I give the first round to Roy, and then after that, it appeared that he lost the rest of them.
God damn, I love the way Wonderboy slides in and out of these shots.
I love how he stays in the pocket, too, and throws all these angles in there.
He realized he hurt him.
Dude, you're talking about a guy who realizes his stand-up potential, but he's worked on his grappling and takedown defense so much.
He was so comfortable training out of his gym in South Carolina.
He went, ah, who's the best?
Well, let's go to Weidman's camp and get annihilated for months and months and months
so I can get better at 170.
That's nuts.
Not too many guys do that.
I know.
He figured it out.
It's amazing.
It's cool, man.
And he's also trained by his dad.
I know.
It's crazy.
And most of those father-son relationships are tough to bring someone else into, man.
They figured it out.
Yeah, they must have figured it out.
He's an interesting thing because he brings a totally new sort of a style to the top of
the heap.
There's no one on the top of the heap that mimics that.
We've had the wrestlers before, the Matt Hughes hughes johnny henry johnny hendrix like really powerful wrestlers
you know matt hughes would get more submissions and a lot of ground and pound victories and
johnny hendrix got a lot of stand-up victories a lot of stand-up kaos like that crazy fitch ko
§67Transcript · 3:05:58–3:10:19
and the martin campman ko johnny had some ridiculous one left hand bomb chaos oh jesus
so there's they're different in that way but um it's it's real interesting when you see a guy Johnny had some ridiculous one left-hand bomb kills. Jesus.
So they're different in that way.
But it's real interesting when you see a guy that you haven't seen before, really,
and a karate guy like Wonderboy with his crazy undefeated kickboxing record.
And you can't figure it out because no one's figured it out, really. George St. Pierre told me he's the best striker that he's ever sparred.
I'm telling you, man. George St. Pierre brought him to denver and we're like who's this skinny
kid like oh all he's gonna do is because at the time he was even thinking about mma he's just
striking have you seen rush hour where chris tucker gets kicked in the face the guy which
one of y'all did it i'm telling you when he sparred with this i I was like, oh, okay. I don't know. Shit.
I wasn't the only one that felt like that.
George St. Pierre, Nate, Shane, Nate Marquardt,
all of us went in and just got wrecked.
Wrecked.
We looked like amateurs.
He's the best example of someone that knows that other style
and implements it in an MMA fight.
Yeah.
Because that style has always been a question mark.
It's like, how come some of these national karate champion dudes haven't gotten into
MMA?
Because if they do, those sport karate guys and the sport taekwondo guys, more the sport
karate guys in a lot of ways, because some of their matches concentrate more on punches.
A lot of them swift punches to the face.
Like, even the sport punch
one point karate guys,
the point karate
where you tag a guy
and they stop.
They still concentrate
more on punches to the face
than the Taekwondo guys.
But you can get
a really good combination
of the two of those techniques.
And if those guys
get into MMA, man,
they're so hard to hit
because those sport karate guys
are used to just
jumping back and forth and diving on each other and jumping out of the way.
Yeah, that's their whole shit.
I think Waterboy's going to set the blueprint for some of those guys because he engulfed himself into grappling.
Conor McGregor is considered one of those guys, right?
I mean, he has a boxing background.
When I was really good at Taekwondo, when I was winning state championships, I had a karate match.
I took a fight tournament, a point karate tournament, and I fought this dude named Mafia Holloway.
Great name.
He was like this big time point karate guy.
And this guy fucked me up.
I couldn't get a hold of him.
Because I was used to continuous style kicking.
I wasn't used to this dart in, smash, dart in with a punch to the face.
They would dart in on you, and then everything would stop.
You'd go, oh, okay, I'm way behind on this.
I should have trained for this.
I trained for kickboxing or for taekwondo,
and this guy had this totally different thing.
And I remember from that one match, which didn't last very long,
and I didn't get hurt in it, but I definitely got tagged.
He tagged me with a front leg sidekick to the body
and a couple other things, but I remember thinking,
man, I've got to rethink my whole approach to darting in and out.
Because Taekwondo guys don't necessarily do that
with the same explosion, the same distance covering.
And I remember thinking, those guys are really hard to catch.
And those guys that get really good at that thing,
and you've seen it with that kid in
Bellator. Michael Page?
Michael Page. Michael Van and Page.
Same thing. You're seeing the same thing.
I'd like to see him against tougher competition.
Yes. Did he grow up doing karate?
Yes, he's a bad motherfucker, dude.
He's a nasty karate
champion. He got in a steamer lock
in his last fight. Put up his Wikipedia Dude, yeah, he's a nasty karate champion
Put up his um highlight is his
Wikipedia so we could find out what his actual
Credentials are you know who walks away the hero tonight?
Cowboy yes, absolutely absolutely
But you know what man that Michael Venn and page, but I don't want to break from him right now because he's no no it's okay but he's something new he's a unique guy
man no one can figure him out well he's
like way way
above the guys he's fought so far
they just don't belong I understand
but they don't belong in there
with him he's amazing
man but you know what that's how a guy should be
built up what are we looking at looking at here young Jamie
that's his wikipedia record
but let's go to what his credentials
are. Let's go back to what it
said. His karate. But Joe, you know what's good?
It's good he's not fighting Krim La Krim.
Because right now he's building his
experience and he's getting his
style down.
What does it say here, Jamie?
Can you make it larger?
§68Transcript · 3:10:21–3:12:41
What does it say? It says, Paige describes his
discipline as not karate, not taekwondo.
It's a hands-down
kickboxing style
that likens himself
to a matador.
Who the fuck
wrote this Wikipedia?
What does it say?
This is why you
can't have fans
write Wikipedia.
A movement-based fighter.
His game plans.
This is weird.
It's terrible.
Some regular dude
So maybe he didn't do karate
or maybe he did
and then he evolved
his own style or something. Doesn't it have credentials? That's interesting. Some regular dude wrote this. So maybe he didn't do karate. Or maybe he did and then he evolved his own style or something.
Doesn't he have credentials?
That's interesting.
Usually they have something like awards or some shit like that.
Does he have any kickboxing?
Background.
There you go.
Does he have any point karate?
Go to background.
Clicking.
Kickboxing career.
Wow.
Am I really wrong about his point karate background?
Did he never have point karate background?
Various kickboxing.
Kickboxing.
Okay. I knew he had that too, but I thought he was initially a point karate background? Did he never have point karate background? Various kickboxing. Kickboxing. Okay.
I knew he had that too,
but I thought he was like
initially a point karate champion.
I agree.
I thought he was too.
I might have made it up.
Maybe you told me.
Maybe I told you.
As an English kickboxer,
karate...
Karateka?
What does it say?
Sport karate.
Sport karate.
Oh, okay.
He did.
Yeah, fuck you. That counts. All right, yeah. Oh, okay. He did. Yeah, fuck you.
That counts.
All right, yeah.
Hell yeah.
No, that's exactly it.
Sport Karate.
For a second there, it got weird.
Yeah, I thought, well, I don't know what he accomplished.
I thought he was like a very high level guy.
Sounds like he's just a guy who took a Taekwondo class.
I don't think so.
It sounds like he took Rex Kwon Do and just fucked him.
I think he fought Sport Karate.
Nah, not according to that.
I think that's what it said.
He hates Taekwondo according to that Wikipedia. But it said Sport Karateka, right? Is that what it said? Sport Karateka. I think he fought sport karate. Nah, not according to that. He hates taekwondo, according to that Wikipedia.
But it said sport karateka, right?
Is that what it said?
Karateka.
It said watch Eastbound and Down and Google karateka and then just fucking kickbox on the weekends.
It wasn't Eastbound and Down.
It was what was the fucking karate one?
You don't want to talk about it?
It's fucking great.
Fist of Fury?
No.
What the fuck is it called, Eddie?
He watched Best of the Best and got his black belt.
That fucking, what was that?
He was working with an association called the Points Fighting League, where it was a
Team Points League.
Oh, whoa.
Team Points League.
Interesting.
I don't know what happened with it.
Look at this cowboy with no shirt on, but the cowboy hat on.
Powerful.
Who allowed that to happen?
How many gay guys are jerking off to this right now?
A million?
Seven.
More than seven.
Well, I'm at seven million.
Powerful cowboy.
Powerful Brendan Schaub.
I love cowboy.
What was the other question that we had?
§69Transcript · 3:12:43–3:15:37
We forgot already.
Hey, I'll tell you what was fun.
Cowboy was here recently.
I took him to Abbott Kenney and took him to Creation.
And he's just fucking so raw.
Hey, I need another green juice over here.
I'm like, hey, bro.
Fucking relax, man.
How about you stop selling them out on TV?
Nah, that's Cowboy, man. He's the best.
He's the best.
Cowboy and Abbott Kenney mixed together like water and oil. Look at these fucking combinations, man. He's the best. He's the best. Cowboy and Abbot Kenny mixed together like water and oil.
Look at these fucking combinations, man.
My God.
He was the highlight of the night.
He dismantled Cote.
Left hook, man.
He's too quick, man.
He's too calculated.
Look how good his angles are, man.
Look at those two right hands he landed.
He didn't get touched either.
Jesus Christ.
That was a dangerous fight.
Dude, he beat him down.
That was ferocious.
I really liked Donald Cerrone at 170, man.
Dude, remember the first fight when that girl kicked the other girl in the titty and she turned around?
That's not what happened.
Well, no, she did once.
Her foot came down and she pulled her bra.
Her titty got abreast.
It was illegal, by the way.
It's illegal?
It's illegal.
It is legal.
I think what happened was as her foot was coming down.
Well, she kicked her in the face, but as her foot was coming down,
the foot caught the bra, the bra pulled down.
The titty.
And you know what happened, folks.
But then she did it again and kicked her right in the solar plexus.
Well, that was a different one.
And then the girl turned around and ran.
She smashed her.
I still to this day, I want to pretend that I remember a kick before that kick to the body.
I don't know if I'm right or not, but either way.
There's three kicks.
That was a beast of a fight.
It was awesome.
Good night of fights.
Fuck yeah, it was.
And Callan watched every single one like a beast.
He called the one-boy fight.
He was into every single one.
He was on fire.
He was on fire. He was on fire.
He was.
He was in the zone.
We tried to get him to shut the fuck up several times.
We did.
Many times.
We tried to get him into talking fucking alligator.
Dude, getting Joey to make a phone call during the main event, like in the third round or
the fourth round, like Howard, Harold Letterman giving his score.
Oh my God.
How cool would that be, right?
That's the greatest idea ever. That's a great idea. That's a fantastic idea. He would totally do that. You know, he's at a loss for that. Fuck yeah, he'd do. Oh, my God. How cool would that be? That's the greatest idea ever.
That's a great idea.
That's a fantastic idea.
He would totally do that.
You know, he's fucking...
Oh, my God.
Unless he's doing stand-up.
Eddie Bravo with the home run.
I tell you.
That's a great idea.
What would he say?
Listen, cocksucker.
If he called in in the fourth round...
Wonder Boy is the fucking man.
You understand me, dog?
Look at the way he's moving.
That's some old-school game of death type shit.
He's going to go into the corner.
He's going to pull out four knives and cut his own fucking chest.
Come out and make foot to face, bitch.
It's a great idea.
He's one of them North Carolina Christians, dog.
You ain't never seen those people before.
They're throwing sidekicks in the swamps.
South Carolina, Jay.
South Carolina, North Carolina, East Carolina.
Shut the fuck up.
I'm trying to drop science.
Those people, they're eating that fucking gumbo.
That gumbo with the crawfish in it, dog.
It's something about the crawfish.
Something about that hot spice, dog.
That's a great fucking call, Eddie.
§70Transcript · 3:15:39–3:18:43
They're living in the fucking swamps.
Come on, man.
You ever see that fucking Swamp People show?
He would just go on some Swamp People show rant.
You'd be like, yes, where do I sign?
Yeah, you got it, man.
Where do I donate?
We're going to try calling him right now, see if he answers.
Yes.
Let's see.
Yes, of course.
100% prank call, Joey Deans.
Oh, my God.
You know, these are really interesting, man.
I enjoyed this.
I was watching this earlier.
The breakdown?
Yeah, I was working out,. I was watching this earlier.
Yeah, I was working out, and I was watching these guys do their different point of views,
like what one guy has to do to win, what another guy has to do to win.
Very interesting.
Very good.
Very good.
I like it a lot. You know who I think is the best at it?
Chael Sonnen.
If you watch him on ESPN, he's a fucking monster at breaking them down.
I think he's fantastic at it.
You know who I think might have a slight edge?
Dominic Cruz.
I think Dominic Cruz is the best at it.
Did you watch the UFC?
Dominic Cruz, I think he's the best at it.
I think Chael's the best.
I think they're both fantastic.
I just walked in.
I put it on myself.
Oh, you haven't even seen it then.
No.
Chaos, Joey Diaz!
Chaos!
You missed a good one, Diaz!
I know Donald Cerrone won, and I know Wonderboy won.
Yeah.
And it's no fucking surprise.
You know, Rocky Molo beat that fucking Momo last time.
It was stick, so he had to come back this time, negotiate the contract.
These guys all get ahead of themselves.
He's going to have to put on those shiny shoes on again and shit.
You know, whatever the fuck he did last night.
He's going to put on those shiny shoes again.
And Donald Cerrone, you know, I know he nullified the right hand of Patrick Cote.
That dude is great, man.
I mean, you know, what do you want from me?
He's a fucking, he's an animal.
He just can't beat those onions.
Do you think that Donald Cerrone is better at 170, Joey?
I didn't really watch him.
He fights so much.
It's like us doing stand-up.
He's fucking great.
It's true.
It's true.
You know, he loses one out of every five, one out of every six.
He's doing something right.
I don't know if he's in Greg Jackson's camp anymore.
He is.
He still is.
He has his own camp, too. He's got this thing's camp anymore. He does. He still is. He still does.
He has his own camp, too.
He's got this thing
called Bad Motherfucker Ranch.
He's got a ranch in New Mexico.
It's close to Jackson's, though.
Yeah.
No, I didn't mean that.
I'm sorry, man.
I had to do a benefit.
It was a nightmare.
They had no air conditioning.
That's a requirement
in your contract.
Oh, that's ridiculous. You can't have hot comedy. You can have that's ridiculous You can't have hot comedy
You can have hot yoga
You can't have hot comedy
No I never noticed that
That's fine is always, ah, last week it was working. We're sorry.
So,
it was fucking hot dog.
I'm happy I'm not hot dog.
That was it, kids.
Everything all right up there?
Everything's beautiful, man.
We miss you, brother.
I'm watching it right now.
What happened was something fucked up
because it taped
the auto racing instead.
Oh, yeah.
It switched to hot sports too.
it taped the auto racing
§71Transcript · 3:18:44–3:21:42
and I'm catching the fight now with Wonderboy. Yeah, Joey. It switched to Fox Sports 2. Yeah. And I'm catching the fight now with Wonderboy.
Yeah, Joey.
It really surprised me.
There was some crazy thing that happened with Fox Sports 1 and Fox Sports 2.
Jamie nailed it.
It changed over while we were watching it.
That's what happened.
That's why the girl fight was on.
Yeah.
And all of a sudden, a bunch of fucking cars started coming at me.
girl fight was on.
Yeah.
And all of a sudden a bunch of fucking cars
started coming at me.
But I don't give a fuck.
You know why, dog?
Because I also take
O.J. Made in America
part five.
It's fucking brilliant, Joey!
Where's that on?
How do you take that?
Is that on Netflix?
It's 30 for 30 on ESPN.
You know,
you know, Brian Cowan,
you know what the beauty is
about O.J. Made in America? Brian Cowan, you know what the beauty is about OJ made in America?
Brian Cowan's not even here.
This is Brendan Schaub, Joey.
Oh, how you doing, Mr. Schaub?
What's up, brother?
You know what's beautiful about that show?
Please explain it to Joe Rogan.
I'm right here.
That could have been OJ.
That could have been Brad Pitt.
That could have been Justin Bieber.
You got to watch it, Joe Rogan, because it breaks it down
all the way to he was in
USC.
And the most interesting part, Brendan Sharp,
tell him, when fucking Muhammad
Ali put that thing together for the black
athletes. Yeah, and he said, fuck that,
I'm not black, I'm OJ, and
separated himself from blacks.
Fuck you. But you know,
bro, I think John, the cop, has the best analogy of what happened to OJ.
Big John McCarthy?
Yeah, he's got the best analogy.
Because in one of the things, Mark Furman went to his house before.
Mark Furman, yeah.
And he had a baseball bat in his hand.
And Mark Furman told him twice to put the fucking bat down.
And the third time, he had to take out his stick.
And then O.J. was just glaring at him, and then he came back.
And they said that when that guy dies, they have to take his brain.
Because he's definitely got the same shit that all these other football players have.
It's CTE, brother.
What is it, brother?
It's called CTE.
They're saying if the trial was today, they would argue CTE, brother. Oh? What is it, brother? It's called CTE. They're saying if the trial was today, they would argue CTE clinically and say...
They would argue CTE because that's what it is.
He has a different style of CTE.
Yep.
That motherfucker thinks a pussy is snaps.
You know what I'm saying?
He's crazy.
What does CTE stand for?
Chronic Traumatic Encephalogy or something like that?
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan.
Joe Rogan.
Episode four.
They actually show her and they break down exactly what happened.
I don't.
I don't.
Yeah.
Chronic traumatic encephalopathy.
Punch drunk.
Let me tell you what that is.
Nobody could have done something.
Brendan Shaw, did you see episode four of it?
You bet your sweet ass I did, Joey.
How fucking sweet was it dog?
How?
They broke it down Joe Rogan How so?
It was animalistic
What he did to them
He's
You could
None of them
20 steroids
Gorilla biscuits
Deck of the Roblin
Rafael Dos Anjos
Verdum
The old Fador Russian
§72Transcript · 3:21:44–3:24:40
What is You know That old Russianum, the old Fedor Russian. What?
That old Russian track team.
That motherfucker, bro.
That was wild, Joe Rogan.
What are you saying?
He went to her, went to him, got him in a chokehold.
And just started slamming, bro.
Allegedly?
And then threw him.
Not allegedly.
Oh, they broke it down. Yeah, he did it 100%. How do they Yeah he did it 100%
How do they know he did it 100%?
Well it's not him that he did it
How anybody would do it
This is what they said
How anybody would do it
There's no way
So they went through everything that he did
Yeah
Right
Then he went and choked him
Cut him
Then he was on the floor against two fences, bro.
I'm not doubting that they figured this out.
He did it 100%.
I'm not doubting.
He can't hear me.
I'm not doubting that they figured this out.
But, you know, the one thing that perplexes me as a dummy,
how do they figure that out?
By looking at where the bodies are?
By the marks on the ground?
How do they figure that out?
The blood at his house, at her house.
Right, but it's...
Right.
Oh.
His hands were all
fucked up.
Oh.
He bled out by his leg.
Did he cut his leg or something?
Yeah, and also, Joey, they're saying
it was such a hate crime that when he
hit her in the throat, it basically decapitated her.
So they're saying that it would have to be such a passion of crime, like he had such a love for her.
When you hit someone that hard to sever their neck and almost cut her head off, it had to have been a passion of crime.
Could you imagine?
Let's assume that he did it.
You know how much his attorney bills were?
Five mil, right?
Fifty thousand a day.
Whoa.
And he paid them, Joe Rogan.
You know how?
How?
Autographs from inside jail.
He was fucking making 3.5 million.
Holy shit.
With autographs.
Because the autographs went up.
They were saying that they were signed inside the jail.
Hey, Joey, how about most of that defense team, how about most of the defense team is dead? with autographs because the autographs went up they were saying that they were signed inside the jail hey Joey
how about most
of that defense team
how about most
of the defense team
is dead
karma's a motherfucker
yeah but you know what
the Jew ain't dead
and that was
the baddest motherfucker
ever
his name is
Barry Sheck
they got him
on the show
drop it
knowledge
Joe Rogan
I haven't seen
part five brother I haven't seen I've only seen four hey is there a way to why I haven't seen part five, brother.
I've only seen four.
Hey, is there a way to...
I haven't seen any of these episodes.
Is there a way?
Assuming I've lost my mind and I want to be terrified.
No, it's brilliant.
It's so cool.
It's all up on the rack.
Wow.
The only guy you get, Doug, that guy.
Wow.
You had to hear the stories about court, how they would act when the cameras would come on.
It was a fucking science show. Wow.
Hey, Joey, even to the way they dressed, they had a whole game plan.
Even to their ties, their suits, they had a whole game plan.
Joe Rogan, the fucking ties.
Wow.
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Fucking, it's brilliant.
This is the best documentary I've ever seen.
Damn.
It's brilliant. This is the best documentary I've ever seen. Damn. It's amazing.
It paints a different story on how OJ Simpson, he wouldn't associate himself as being black.
He didn't view himself as black.
He viewed himself as OJ.
So we always thought he was bigger than the race.
It's so crazy the way they painted the picture.
But is that editorial choice or is that based on what they knew about?
That's based off his friends and family.
But you know what they left out?
They only mentioned it one time, guys They left out the cocaine
They only mentioned it one time
Yeah, that's a big red flag there
Hey, there's a documentary you can watch on YouTube
Oh, here goes Eddie
OJ the Untold Story
His son didn't do it.
Is it on YouTube?
Is it on YouTube?
OJ, The Untold Story.
Can I find it on Netflix?
Oh, no, it's at the library, bro.
It's at the library.
Made in America on the tomato meter.
It's ranked 100.
He had CTE, but then you sprinkle that cocaine in it.
Why didn't they talk about the cocaine?
That's interesting.
They didn't bring it up. That's a suspect. And it backfired on him. about the cocaine? That's interesting.
That's a suspect.
Well, you know what's interesting, Joey?
What's interesting is one of the doctors
that was somehow involved
in the case back in the day was on
TV recently, and he was talking
about the new discoveries about CTE,
the new understanding about CTE,
and they said that it is very possible that they might have actually introduced that into the trial back then,
if they knew what they knew now, which is crazy, right?
Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.
It just makes sense because John McCartney hit it on the head.
He goes, that guy has a different CTE.
The shit that, you know, you don't fucking, it just comes and goes.
It comes and goes. His is completely different,
dog. He was an American
hero that killed a white woman.
You gotta see this Joe Rogan
how they break it down. It's just a long
documentary. It's 15 fucking hours.
Hey, Joey, let me ask you
this, man. How much do you know about CTE?
I don't know. All I saw, I saw the movie. You saw Concussion? You saw Concussion? Yeah, I saw Concussion. And after I
saw the movie, I just started thinking about things. And they made a lot of sense to me now.
Things that happened over the years with people I knew who played football,
things that happened over the years with people I knew who played football,
it just made sense to me.
Like, I didn't even know
about the Pittsburgh Steelers,
all that stuff with the center
and the other guy.
I had no idea,
but it makes sense to me.
It makes sense to me.
One of my friends,
when he was younger,
he was a center.
And he was also a nose guard. So they get hit
in the head all the fucking time.
So I'm looking at the kids
now that played college ball.
They're not that
solid. Like the kids I grew up with
that played college ball, you can see
that something's not right. I think
the pro ball really puts it over the head.
Because it puts the stress combined with the hits.
And now you're making money, you know?
Right.
I think that really pushes it over the head.
That's just too many years of getting hit in the head.
Right.
Once you become a pro and you add three or four years, you know?
Hmm.
I don't know much about it, don't you, Rogan?
I know that right now I could see it see the beginnings of it in some fighters.
And if you don't see the beginning of it in some fighters, then you're not looking.
You can tell that they're a little box, you know?
Hell yeah.
Well, it's interesting because it's like, when do you make a decision when you're a fighter?
And Brendan, you're the only one that can talk about this.
When do you make a decision when you're a fighter and Brendan, you're the only one that could talk about this. When do you make a decision?
Like when,
when you're a good friend,
Joe Rogan sits you down and tells you, you fucking suck.
I never said you suck.
I think that the brain is like the heart.
There's really no love for Joe Rogan,
except that once you tap that button,
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you keep getting knocked out.
And I guarantee that those people that had more than four knockouts over the years,
they'll start to experience headaches or something with their vision.
There needs to be a way to test it.
Oh, he can't hear you.
For people listening to this, Joey Diaz is on speakerphone on Eddie Bravo's phone,
and he can't hear Brendan, who's on the other side of the table,
because Eddie's got the speakerphone.
It's real hard to hear.
So keep going, Joey.
Yeah, no, no, no, Joey.
No, Joey, I think you're dead right.
Yeah, he's right.
Joey, I think you're dead right.
I think you're dead right.
We all do.
We all agree with you.
I'm just telling people that you couldn't hear Brendan.
Yeah, it's one of those things where you've got to wonder as a fighter,
like, where do you draw the line?
Because you look at a guy like Alistair Overeem,
he's been stopped a bunch of times, but Alist about to fight for the title you know so when do you make that call because alistair's as good as he's ever been
he knocked out you know he knocked out uh junior dos santos and a spectacular spectacular no
rothwell knocked him out correct big ben knocked him out in the first round here's the question
joe what other options did they have?
That's why I stopped.
I had other options. Most guys don't.
Yeah, that's a good point.
People can say, well, you've taken too many fights.
You need to stop and do what?
Go into the workforce?
Fuck you.
I make six figures fighting.
I'm going to get punched on shitting my pants in front of my kids.
But that's also, don't you think that there's an important point where you have to decide
whether or not it's what you actually want to do?
And you had the option to do
other shit, and it was a
perfect time for you to just
step back and do other shit, but some
people... I also have Joe Rogan
and Brian Callen who helped me out and
gave me a platform.
You're also entertaining. There's a lot of dudes who
would do podcasts and you'd be like, shut that shit up. Yeah, they would fucking There's a lot of dudes who would do podcasts.
You'd be like, shut that shit up.
Yeah, they would fucking suck.
I'm just saying I had other options.
Most guys have to fight.
You still there, Joey?
Joey, you're six Death Stars.
Hey, we're going to wrap this podcast up.
Joey, we love you, man.
I love you, brother.
Thank you for thinking of me, guys.
Love you.
We'll talk.
Love you, Joey.
I love you guys.
Joey's the best.
He's a national treasure, a world treasure.
You won't drive and do fire in the kit because it's too far.
Too far, dog.
Come to me, bitch.
It's too fucking far.
Come here.
Come to me.
I'm 51 years old.
Let me tell you something, motherfucker.
I'm 49 years old.
Let me tell you something, bitch.
He goes, I'm not going anywhere before 11.
11?
Fuck you, cocksucker.
Fuck, man.
He's so funny. Traffic. He's the best. He always has the right shit to say about fuck man he's so funny
he always has the right shit to say about everything
he's so knowledgeable
you're not gonna get him over there on the west side like Marina Del Rey
or Los Angeles
I'm in no danger
and you know what he doesn't text
I'll text him hey man can you do 11 or call me
he only calls he never texts
you're in no danger of me and driving
down to fucking Laguna Nig. You're in no danger of me driving down to fucking Laguna Niguel.
You're in no danger.
What?
Four o'clock on a Tuesday.
How about you suck my dick?
Yeah.
All right, man.
You asked me to do the show.
He's an animal.
He's the best.
Listen, dog.
We'll make it nice and simple.
Come to my house.
Bro.
He's got his own studio now.
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I know.
I went to his studio.
You need to set up a studio like he...
I went to his studio and he was so high.
Oh, too high.
We got nothing done.
Oh, that's perfect.
Hey, talk to me about...
Hey, you know, I go on there and he goes, talk to me about Boulder.
What?
You went to see you.
I'm going to take a nap.
Let me tell you about my stories about Boulder.
He's so high.
We got nothing done.
I'm going to take a nap.
I want you to talk to me about mountains and streams and eagles and ferrets.
That's exactly what he did.
Come on, dog.
Go.
Dog, I'm back.
That was the show.
I'm back better than ever.
Spark up the bong.
Tell me about your time at CU Boulder.
Tell me about New Mexico.
What do you mean you got nothing done?
Didn't you do a podcast or something?
We did a podcast.
He was just so high.
We're talking about CU Boulder for two hours.
Perfect.
Perfect.
Let it roll.
He's the best.
He is what he is, man.
He's perfect.
He's the best.
He's fucking hilarious.
I talked to you about some places he's never even been.
Yeah.
Those North Dakota people, dawg
Those dirty white people that work in the mines
And they take off their stinky fucking shoes
And they want these Chinese women to suck their dicks
And they come over in fucking old World War II Snoopy airplanes
And they drop them out of the sky
And they just suck your dick
And they just fucking shoot right back off into space
He'll make some shit up.
He's fucking hilarious.
He'll be crying.
He's a totally unique individual.
When are you going to meet another Joey Diaz in your life?
Never.
He calls and checks on me.
I know.
It's beautiful, right?
It's great.
Wonderboy, you look nasty in this fight, man.
These highlights that we're watching.
How about Wonderboy's only loss was to Matt fucking Brown?
Other than that, he starched everybody.
Well, he just fought real smart.
I wish Rashad would stop fighting.
I think he probably will.
Eventually, for sure.
He's one of my favorite people on the planet.
I wish he would stop.
Well, that Glover fight is going to be hard for a proud former champion like him to go out on.
If he decides to end it on the Glover fight.
I hated that fight for him.
Who's Glover fight now?
That's a good question.
Well, you said Gustafson in the beginning.
I like Gustafson.
I think that's a great fight.
But Gustafson already has a fight scheduled,
and there might be a reason why they scheduled the guy against him.
Do you know who it is?
Who is Gustafson?
They just announced it, like, yesterday, right?
It's a guy not ranked in the top 10, I know that.
That's a weird fight to make, right?
What's his name?
What's his name?
Jan Blakovic.
Blakovic.
Jan Blakovic is a good fighter.
He's a very good fighter.
But good enough to fight Gus Finn, who's ranked number three or four in the world.
Let's see if you can find a highlight reel for Jan Blakovic.
No, he's a beast, obviously.
But the only thing is, Gus Finn's going, you know, he almost beat
Jon Jones at decision.
He almost beat DC in decision, then you're fighting this guy?
Well, I think because he said time off,
it's almost a welcome back.
I don't like to say...
We know you've had mental problems, welcome back.
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I don't like to say almost beat.
I like to say lost a close fight, too.
That's fair.
Yeah, I can't say almost.
Never did it really look like was beating He was gonna beat
Jon Jones
He had some moments
Had some good moments
But you never had
Jon Jones in trouble
Jon Jones always came back
Jon Jones is gritty as fuck
Right
But he came back
You know what I'm saying
Jon Jones won that fight
Jon Jones won that fight
Right
But
It was a good fight
It was a very very good fight
It was a close fight
Yeah
See like the fight where
He was in like trouble That's like The, like, the fight where he was in, like, trouble.
That's like the Rumble Johnson
fight. Like, when he fought Rumble.
When Gustafson fought Rumble? That's in trouble.
That's in trouble. That's losing the fight.
Right? That's losing the fight. Yeah. Right.
Jon Jones has never been in trouble. Yeah, never been in trouble.
Gustafson gave him his toughest test. It's interesting, right?
You know, that's how
fucking tough Jon is. Well, when Vitor had him in an arm bar.
It's true. He picked him upitor had him in an arm bar. It's true.
He picked him up and slammed him and then submitted him.
Yep.
That might be one of the most dangerous times in his career because his arm was completely hyperextended.
He snapped his arm.
He showed what a bad motherfucker he is.
Did he hurt him?
For real?
Yes, he did.
He snapped his arm.
Yes, he did.
He hyperextended his elbow.
It's one of the reasons why he took that job on The Ultimate Fighter with Chael Sonnen.
Because he wasn't going to fight for quite a long time.
So they knew that, so they scheduled that fight next.
And then if you remember correctly, he has that fight, he beats the shit out of Chael Sonnen and breaks his toe in the process.
He was pushing off the mat so fucking hard trying to kill Chael Sonnen that he broke his own toe and spun it around.
You remember that shit?
He's a fucking
monster and he didn't even realize it until he looked down pound for a pound number he was
standing there after the fight was over i was talking to him and then he looked down and realized
that he had twisted his toe upside down he's a fucking nightmare good luck being that guy
motherfucker and if dc don't beat him it's all where everyone's fucked. Everyone's fucked. Motherfucker.
Well, here's the thing.
And I don't know if he's right, but Greg Jackson was saying that he thought that one of the things about John being, I didn't think he was sluggish.
I thought he took a lot of time off and he had a lot of pressure.
I thought he fought very creatively and I thought he fought well.
You can throw a speed?
Yes.
You're bat shit crazy.
No, I didn't.
I don't think he fought his best.
I thought he was on anti-bodies.
No, no, no.
I definitely don't think he fought his best. I thought he was on antibodies. No, no, no. I definitely don't think he fought his best.
But I think considering the fact that he was off for a long time and all the personal problems
that he went through, and he fought a real tough guy in OSP that was in a fairly defensive
position in a lot of the fight.
He didn't risk anything.
He was more OSP than John.
Well, OSP fought a smart fight.
He fought a smart fight.
But you can't fight like that.
Tested the water.
He did the best to his ability.
He took some chances, but he got out of
the fight ultimately in pretty good
shape, except for his arm. He didn't come
to win, really. Another guy whose arm got broke by a
kick. John broke his arm.
Probably significantly slowed him down.
So, I didn't think it was
a bad performance at all. I think OSP's
fucking good, man, and getting better
and a dangerous... He's a tricky
fight for anybody. He's a super powerful guy.
Explosive southpaw. I just thought John
looked kind of lackadaisical. He didn't risk
anything. He had too much to lose. Just a lot of factors.
A lot of factors. Also, getting that
off of his chest and then getting back
in there and fighting Daniel
is going to be like a warm-up fight against
a top six guy.
That's what OSP was. I'm pretty sure he was ranked number six.
That's a great thing for John.
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He also didn't show anything.
He really didn't show DC anything.
What I was going to say is that Greg Jackson
seemed to think, allegedly,
after that fight, that the weightlifting
might have played a part in him looking
tight. That's fair.
You think so? That's fair.
When you're in the weight room, you put on more muscle.
You're slower. You know, you're slower.
You're a little more, you know, you're not as fluid.
You know what's interesting?
Plus, he didn't fight for a while, and he went through a shit.
He was in jail.
Hey, Greg Jackson, I think it's more.
Hey, Greg Jackson, I think it's more that he T-boned a pregnant lady, ran from the scene,
spent some time in jail, didn't fight in lockdown forever, it's called lockdown rust.
Then he fought a very talented Southpaw who's tricky to deal with.
That's more what it is.
It ain't the weightlifting.
Well, yeah, it's interesting that you would immediately blame one aspect.
Because one of the things that was after I talked to John,
or while I was talking to John after the fight,
one of the things that he said was that physically he felt great.
He just wasn't engaging enough, or he wasn't pulling the trigger when you wanted to this was
Probably like just a comfort thing
You know he hadn't been fighting in a long time all the pressure all there's like probably quite a few factors and maybe even it's not
Either or maybe even the weightlifting might have slowed him down a little bit
Like you said I think the number of things but look at Gus when he's been out for a while They give him a pretty I'm not saying to warm-up fight, but like you said, I think it's a number of things. But look at Gustafson.
He's been out for a while.
They give him a pretty, I'm not saying it's a warm-up fight, but he's not fighting a top ten guy.
John's warm-up fight was against the number six guy in the world, a Southpaw who's explosive
as fuck.
He's supposed to fight for the world title.
So John was being a little hesitant, safe.
He knows what's on the line.
Is there some sort of history between Gustafson and the guys fighting?
Is there a reason why they're going to fight? I think i think remember gustafson was like i don't
know if i want to do this anymore so i think it's more of like hey man let's let's see if this is
for you go through a 12-week training camp let's see what happens because you're a phenomenal
fighter really yeah that's interesting man because um like you as a fighter when a fighter starts
entertaining those thoughts of stopping It's game over
It's game over
It's game over
It really is
and this has come from a guy who didn't think that way
for a long time, even when you told me that I'm like
what's he talking about, one foot in, one foot out
and then when finally the dust fell I'm like
he's kind of fucking right, because then when you're fighting guys
who it's all they have, good luck beating a
Glover Tech share who's in fucking Connecticut in the snow running sprints
and all he gives a fuck about is knocking you out.
Or Anthony Johnson, who all he cares about is knocking you out.
He doesn't care about anything else.
And when you're one foot in, one foot out, you just can't compete at that level.
You just can't.
You can be a guy and still fight, win some, lose some, but you should leave.
I think you're right, and I'm glad you said that.
You should leave 100%.
Because I'm telling you, there's guys out there who they live and die for this shit.
Matt Brown.
And they don't care about anything else.
Yep.
There's literally nothing else.
And you're going to compete with them?
Good luck, man.
Good luck.
Good luck.
While you're doing a fucking radio show telling dick jokes, this guy's hitting mitts or getting
better at the craft.
You just can't compete, man.
Yep.
And it's his paycheck.
It's how he feeds his family.
Mm-hmm.
You're going to get hurt.
See this Tamden McCrory knockout?
He got knocked out by this cat.
Christoph Jocktoe.
Jocktoe.
Great fucking name.
Clean left hand.
He was pressing the action, looking to establish his range and everything.
It was like a minute in, and this dude hit him with a perfectly timed left hand,
like right on the eye socket.
Just jarred him.
He went down, and then he finished him off with some sick hammer fist.
Check this out.
Watch.
He's moving forward.
This guy had been, like, threatening with the left hand but couldn't find his range.
Watch how he just slides back and then
back in. Boom!
God damn.
I mean, that is just thunderous.
His hairline ain't helping nobody.
That hairline's dope as fuck if you win.
If you knock people the fuck out.
No, that hairline ain't good in the movies, in the UFC,
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Jason Statham.
If you teabag a man who's unconscious on a bar room floor
after you fuck him.
He's way worse than Jason Statham.
Jason Statham, he's tapped out.
He's tapped out like me. Oh, dear.
Yeah, Jason Statham's a type.
Tandon's holding on to some weird shit on the side of the ear area.
Hey, I'm all about Jason Statham, man.
Tandon's a crazier.
You can do that.
The more bald and sexy celebrities there are, the better for all of us.
Trust me.
Says Mr. Full Head of Hair.
Oh, dear.
Right?
You have thick hair privilege. You have super thick hair. No, no, for all of us. Trust me. Says Mr. Full Head of Hair. How dare you? Right? You have thick hair privilege.
You have super thick hair.
No, no, no.
My hair's falling out.
I'm getting old.
We can't listen to you.
No, I'm going to shave my head, too.
I'm going to join the bald-headed club.
Well, you know, Tamden McCrory looked really good in his last fight, man.
He won by a quick knockout in the first round.
And, you know, this is just the nature of the beast, man.
He fought a really good guy.
Strikeout.
Oh, look, meanwhile, look how fucking goddamn good Cowboy looked tonight.
Dude, I text you the best fight I saw last weekend.
I text you it was Lemachenko.
He has six fucking fights.
This is boxing.
In fact, it's on 130.
He has six fights.
He was a gold medalist in the Olympics.
His first pro fight, he goes, I want a world championship fight.
They go, we can't give it to you on the first fight.
So he gets on a second fight, wins a world championship.
Now it's a six fight.
He wins another world championship.
I'm telling you, man, this is the best pound for pound fighter in the world right now.
He's a bad motherfucker.
Oh, my God.
You watch him, the angles are fucking nuts.
If you like Dominic Cruz, this guy's doing him boxing.
It's Lomachenko, right? Lomachenko, yeah. Yeah. That's how you say his last name? Oh, it are fucking nuts. If you like Dominic Cruz, this guy's doing it in boxing. It's Lomachenko, right?
Lomachenko, yeah.
Yeah.
That's how you say his last name?
Oh, it's fucking nuts.
Yeah, he's an artist in there, man.
Beautiful.
So fun to watch.
But he lost to Solis, right?
He did.
They fight again, he'd fucking smoke him.
What happened in the first fight?
I didn't see it.
It was a decision, and some people even gave it to Lomachenko.
Well, Solis is just really good at brawling, man.
He's a brawler.
He's a tough, tough dude, man.
And he's one of those badass Mexican fighters.
You know, if you go look at, like, badass blood and guts fighters,
if you had to look at, like, one nation that continually produces badass blood and guts fighters,
Mexico.
Mexico.
Mexico.
Fuck you.
Look at Canelo Alvarez.
Come on, man.
Julio Cesar Chavez, dude.
Come on.
Mexico has had some bad motherfuckers.
And even Oscar De La Hoya.
They don't want to give it to him because he's good looking.
God damn it, he's Mexican.
He's a bad motherfucker.
I re-watched Oscar De La Hoya versus Julio Cesar Chavez last week.
Dude.
God damn it.
I forgot how good Oscar was.
You went old school, bro.
I forgot how good he was.
The golden boy was the best.
I saw that at the LA Sports Arena on closed circuit.
It's like a basketball arena and you get to see it on the screen.
You know who's better than all of them to me?
Juan Miguel Marquez.
Fuck yeah.
Fuck, he was a monster.
Dude, I wore a Marquez shirt on the podcast the other day.
Did you really?
Did I wear it, Jamie?
Was it Roots' fight?
It's Chavez.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It was a fight.
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I saw him fight at the forum with my friend Terry Claiborne.
I saw him fight Marco Antonio Barrera.
Oh, fuck, man.
What the fuck was it?
Juan Miguel Marquez was a fucking monster.
So technical, could brawl.
No.
Is that who fought?
Who the fuck fought?
No, it wasn't.
Chiquita Gonzalez? No, that wasn't. Chiquita Gonzalez?
No, that wasn't the fight.
That wasn't the fight.
Chocolcito?
God damn it.
Too much weed.
Chocolcito will blow your fucking mind, too.
Boxing's never been better, though, right now.
It's amazing.
Well, he had that epic...
Juan Manuel Marquez.
Knocked out Manny.
Marco Antonio Barrera?
Marco Antonio Barrera had that Prince Ahmed fight.
It was Marco Antonio Barrera, and he was fighting someone else.
Arturo Gatti?
No.
Damn, Doug.
Give me Marco Antonio Barrera's Wikipedia so I can figure out which fight it was.
How long ago was this?
How long ago?
Shit.
Before you were born?
I just moved to New York, or here from New York.
Oh, wow.
With my friend Terry Claiborneon who's still a boxing trainer in LA
what gym
I don't know
where his gym is man
I think he's got a gym
on La Brea somewhere
I haven't seen him
in a long time
he's a really cool dude
I went with him
but we went to
to watch it
it was when
Marco Antonio Barrera
before he even fought
Prince Nassim Hamed
let's see what we got here
damn it's a out of Mexicans.
It's all Mexicans.
Scroll up a little.
Scroll up a little, Jamie.
Keep going.
Keep going.
Keep going.
It was Kennedy McKinney.
That's who it was.
Oh, there you go.
That's 2003, son.
Yeah, it was in Anaheim.
See?
Yep.
Englewood.
Englewood?
Oh, is it Englewood?
Is that what it was? Yeah, that's what it was. Kennedy McKinney. Yeah? Yep. Englewood. Englewood? Oh, is it Englewood? Is that what it was?
Yeah, that's what it was.
Kennedy McKinney.
Yeah.
It was at the Forum.
February 2003.
Or is that 1996?
Benavidez was in Anaheim.
That says 1996, son.
Does it really?
February 1996, February 3rd.
I got the days wrong.
God damn.
But that was when I was working out at the Hollywood Gym.
It was that 24-hour gym that used to be on...
Dude, forever.
Forever and a week.
That gym that is still there, that Hollywood Gym, this 24-hour gym, used to be on... Dude, forever. Forever and a week. That gym that is still there, that Hollywood gym, this 24-hour gym, still to this day.
It's on La Brea, right across the street from where our old legends used to be.
Yep, yep, yep.
I used to work out there.
And he was training John David Jackson when John David Jackson was a middleweight champion.
Damn.
Back in the day, son.
Old school, man.
And this one, Sugar Shane Mosley
was just coming up, dude.
Sugar Shane Mosley,
there was posters of him.
He had won the Olympics
and he was just coming up
§80Transcript · 3:46:51–3:49:53
as a pro boxer.
And everybody was like,
God damn,
keep your eyes on
Sugar Shane Mosley.
He was ranked pound for pound
best in the world
for a long time.
Dude, that dude
had lightning fast hands.
Whoa!
Brr, bing!
The man.
He put some combinations
on people, man.
The man.
Still fighting. What was it like doing commentary on his fight uh because you did it for what would you do for cbs cbs sports he's uh
he's a buddy it's tough man because
it's tough because it's obviously past his time you know right it's like he fought a long young
line and he did well but he definitely, but he probably lost the fight.
He definitely lost the fight, but it's like, where do you go from here?
And like the winner of that fight fights Thurman or Porter.
Yeah, both guys are nasty.
What are you going to do with that?
What are you going to do with that?
Well, you know, here's my question.
I don't know well enough that we know each other where I can say, hey, brother, what are you doing?
How do you distinguish a guy like
Shane Mosley from a guy like Bernard Hopkins?
A guy like Bernard Hopkins,
if he thinks that he can fight somebody,
I want to see him see if he can fight that guy.
Even though he's 49 or almost
50. I mean, that guy,
the only guy that really kind of dismantled
his defense was Kovalev. Kovalev
put him in some real trouble. Real trouble.
Kovalev, to me me might be the best in the world
Pam profound he's one of them. He's gonna love Kenny. Can I go love getting him apparently had some Wars?
Some boxing wars the rumors are they're both nasty nasty fucking knockout Russians own combat sports
Look really think about it. Not really name one UFC Russian champion. Well ready go
Negan my nega met off Not really name one UFC Russian champion. Well ready go naked my naked man off
Habib
Jump to conclusions you might have some good shit
Habib's undefeated just injuries stopped him here. He beat the champ San Jose. Okay one
He's that 55 that's the deepest division.
He's the outlier.
Well, fuck, he's an outlier.
Goddamn, he's good.
But boxing, they fucking... There's a lot of them, but Tyson Fury just beat Vladimir Klitschko.
They're fighting again.
Yeah, but Tyson Fury just beat Vladimir Klitschko.
Correct.
Okay.
Kovalev.
Good luck beating Kovalev.
Good luck beating him.
But Andre Ward might be able to beat him.
I don't think so.
I don't know. He better fight more than that's a fucking series. Everybody's so confident.v. Good luck beating him. But Andre Ward might be able to beat him. I don't think so. I never know.
He better fight more than...
Is there a...
Everybody's so confident.
Brendan.
I'm so confused.
It's just an argument.
Brendan, in boxing right now,
is there an African-American heavyweight boxer
that's fucking vicious?
Deontay Wilder.
Oh, Anthony Joshua from England's a fucking monster.
Look at this.
Anthony Joshua?
Anthony Joshua.
Look at this.
He looks like he'd win
the Olympia right now.
Look at this poll
about who they want
Wonderboy to fight.
63% of the people
said Wonderboy.
9% said Damian Maia.
They're like,
pass.
Ah, we're good.
Fuck all that noise.
It's just because
people want to see knockouts.
Fuck that gigantic
killer praying mantis
world champion
jujitsu strangler.
Fuck that.
Damian Maia puts the choke to people, my friend.
I love watching Damian Maia right now.
Joe Soto.
This fight was interesting, man.
I was watching this.
Chris Biel was tagging Joe Soto, but Joe Soto was moving with shit.
§81Transcript · 3:49:57–3:53:03
He was constantly pressuring him, and he got him to the ground and took his back twice.
I didn't see this.
He's fighting the next EBI.
He was getting lit up.
Joe Soto? Joe Soto's in the next EBI. He was getting lit up.
Joe Soto's in the next EBI.
He's a David Terrell guy, right?
Yeah, he's a brown belt under David Terrell.
He got to the finals against Eddie Cummings in EBI 4 the last time we did the featherweights.
Yeah, you know what, man? He yelled something
at me and I wanted to talk to you about this because he yelled
something to me after he
won his last fight.
There's a big misunderstanding.
That's over.
Yeah.
He was like, I didn't grease up.
I didn't grease up.
I go, dude, I don't know what you're, I don't know what.
He yelled that at you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like as if I knew it because of him.
Tell Eddie I didn't grease up.
No, no.
It was about.
Misunderstanding?
Well, if you're yelling that. Total misunderstanding.
Super suspect.
Okay.
Well, either way, man.
Super suspect.
Well, he was just trying to clarify to me because he knew that they were on commercial.
But it was whatever.
That didn't matter.
What he did tonight was beautiful.
He looked great.
Beautiful grappling, man.
Great takedown.
He took his back twice in a real strong way.
Took his back in the second and in the third.
And I was like, man, he can threaten.
Because once he got to the ground, he was taking his back really quick.
Oh, super, with the quickness.
Like knife through butter.
Yeah, it wasn't like he was in danger of getting reversed.
It was more of how quickly would he be able to progress to the back.
It was just a matter of time before he got his neck.
He's a very good grappler, man.
Very good grappler.
I wasn't aware how good he was, to be honest.
Well, those David Terrell guys are fucking animals everyone i know says david terrell is in the training room is the biggest
fucking freak of all time all the like the legendary stories i hear they everyone tells
me david terrell is the a motherfucker dude we saw i hear legendary stories from everyone we
saw him grapple in his prime in abu dhab in 2003, back when Eddie went down there.
I saw him in his prime against
some really high-level guys.
I heard even then
he never lived up to his potential.
I heard in the training.
I've never grappled
a guy. I don't know him. I think I've met him once
passing through UFC.
He's like a centaur.
These stories I hear from other people
and legit people are nuts.
One thing that was clear with Joe Soto
in EBI 4 was his leg locks
were really good and his leg lock defense
was insane.
It was because of Dave Terrell.
He's been all about leg locks for the last 10-15 years.
He got to the finals
against Eddie Cummings who just leg locked
three dudes in a row.
Nobody ever sits on their ass and plays footsies against Eddie Cummings, who just leg locked three dudes in a row. Yeah, Eddie's a beast. And you would think nobody ever sits on their ass and plays footsies with Eddie Cummings.
They generally don't do that.
Yeah, that's like, okay, let's try to get around those legs and try to play smash.
That's what everyone's trying to do.
They don't want to go leg for legs with Eddie Cummings.
But Joe Soto did in the fucking finals.
Is Gary Tonin in your next one or no?
No.
No.
But Eddie Cummings, he's the champion.
He's coming back to defend the belt.
That's a Saturday, July 16th on Fight Pass.
Boom.
Oh, yeah.
You're on Fight Pass now.
EBI on fucking Fight Pass.
Yeah, it's fucking awesome, man.
It's awesome.
It's going well.
It's so good.
Oh, fuck yeah.
It's the best grappling format that's ever been created.
By far.
Nice.
Such a smart move, man.
You guys have fun when you guys win?
§82Transcript · 3:53:04–3:56:29
The fucking best. Always. But it's like- If the fight's moving, we don't fucking wait. You guys have fun when you guys win? The fucking best.
If the fight's moving, we don't fucking wait.
This is the best.
I don't want to try to pass.
This is the best.
That's the one thing about fight shows,
is that one thing the king of the cage had that no one else had
is they would have 13 fights, but there would be no waiting.
As soon as one fight was done, boom, they start the next fight.
For MMA, that's a bad idea but i hear you for
jujitsu for well for anything it's great because it just moves the show along and you know uh we
were all behind schedule because we had to do everything in a three-hour block as a pay-per-view
and we were behind so we weren't even showing replays people thought that that was our style
we don't show replays like we didn't even have time for replays go we were just going go go go is that is that little girl still ripping heels off which one are you talking about grace
you know i'm talking about the only one ripping heels off oh riley uh yeah she's gonna fight
soul snatcher in september you bet your ass yeah we gotta find an opponent for we don't have an
opponent for her but grace is fighting an ebi7. Well, I'm super curious to see how this is received,
because as a person who loves jiu-jitsu,
and I think we could all agree
on this, like one of the big problems, you've been involved
in these kind of matches. They go to draw,
and it's like a lot of them go to draw, and you'll have
professional matches, four, five, six in a row,
and nothing happens. Super boring. Nothing happens.
And the... Not all
draws are boring, though. Some draws are amazing.
Jack Shields Against AJ Agazon
100%
Gary Tonin versus
Husamar Pahar
I agree brother
Great draw
But for the public
They're not trying to see that
Right
No but they still enjoy the match
They need finishes
Yeah but they still enjoy the match
I'm just saying
If you want ratings
You need finishes
Bar none
That's what you need
Well sort of
But
Sort of but
I see your point too
Because there's something Interesting about a fight that gets that close to being finished several times.
But a guy escapes, and you don't know exactly what's going to happen.
And there's a lot of drama.
And then it gets to the end, and there's still drama.
But it would be infinitely better if then they moved into your format.
That's what I'm saying.
Look at that.
That draw was pretty good because it was a technical jiu-jitsu battle.
But your format makes that draw one of the best fights in the history of the world.
That's what I'm saying.
Because they're shooting out.
Because they're shooting out.
Because all of a sudden AJ's got Jake Shields back and he starts with the over-under.
Or Jake's got his back and he starts with the over-under.
That's what I'm saying, Eddie.
Your format proves that we want to see people try and finish.
Because if you go to the Metamore style, it proves that that thing's not working.
Yeah.
Your style is.
Because your style.
That could work, the Metamore style, if there was more incentive to win instead of a draw.
There's not an incentive.
People were like, you know what, I'm going to play it safe.
Well, there's an incentive off ego.
People were like, you know what, I'm going to play it safe.
The problem with the draws is when it's clear that one of the fighters or both of the fighters are totally satisfied with the draw,
they're like, fuck it. Who are you telling?
You know what I mean?
As long as there's, then it's a problem.
But if two guys are really going after it, then it's not a problem.
So how do you make guys two really go after it?
You've got to make it a financial.
EBI.
Well, there you go.
There you go.
What are we talking about?
I'm arguing with you guys.
I'm arguing your fucking joke.
I'm saying you have to do EBI rules.
Otherwise, you fuck.
I'm saying it's all good.
Everything is good.
Meanwhile, a beautiful Porsche just wiped out.
It was so depressing.
Did you see that?
It just got destroyed.
Some crazy race.
4G T-Versus Friday.
I don't know what the race is.
But some Porsche just got destroyed.
Porsche 919 hybrid?
What?
Get the hybrid out of my face.
§83Transcript · 3:56:30–3:59:38
You guys are all car experts, aren't you?
These people are nuts.
Who knows more about cars?
Joe all day.
Joe crushing?
Yeah, for sure.
You're like a blue belt and he's like a black belt, right?
Yeah, I'd say I'm a Porsche black belt.
Joe's been looking at car magazines for the last 20 years.
He's a solid black belt.
He's been a car expert since I've known him.
He's balls deep in fixing his cars.
I'm a fascinated person.
I'm easily fascinated by engineering.
But if you're into something, you know the ins and outs of it.
Like archery shooting, you're going to spend 20 hours on it.
I'll spend an hour on it, then I'll move on to something else.
Then I'll come back the next day, another hour.
Not everything, though, man.
If you're into it, though, you're so into it.'am it's a ring yeah you're so into it
yeah it's a mental problem yeah there's something wrong with me you had that nsx oh jesus christ
it's a corvette thank god it's a corvette oh but that's a beautiful car too jesus fucking
oh my god hey man the asian nascar driver. First Asian NASCAR driver. So racist.
We're so true.
Today, I would protest against me of them.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Oh, Jesus.
Boom.
God, you got one job.
You drive in a circle.
Oh, man.
No, those things break, dude.
Shit goes wrong.
How about that steering wheel?
Look at that fucking car.
Oh, that ain't a Corvette.
No, that's a different one.
That's a...
I guess they have a bunch of fucking accidents.
That one's on fire.
Yo, that's no big deal.
What is that?
That's like a Batmobile.
Do you have to run at this point?
Yeah, you should definitely run.
Oh, shit.
Oh, my God.
Damn, this car racing just got-
The fucking thing's going to blow.
Don't you watch any movies?
What happens at that point?
You got to get the fuck out of Dodge before you become a part of the problem.
I want them to look like actual cars.
That R8 in the front is dope.
I think racing is fucking probably so unbelievably exciting, but the consequences are absolutely devastating.
Oh, you die.
How crazy do you have to be to race a car like that?
Are they all crazy?
No, they develop a real good sense of how to control the car.
And then at a high level, you're around a lot of other people with a really good sense of how to control a car.
And then you got to mind each other.
And that was like one of the things about that fucking dude, Ayrton Senna.
Have you ever seen that documentary on Ayrton Senna?
He's a Brazilian guy who is a Formula One racer who is extremely aggressive.
I think it's Formula One.
He's a race car driver.
I don't know much about this stuff.
I believe that he was Formula One.. He's a race car driver. I don't know much about this stuff. I believe that he was in Formula 1.
But they had a documentary
on him. It was fucking genius, man.
It's brilliant. He was just
this dude who just felt
where the car was going
at a level, like an understanding
that very few people
ever get to. And he would push it
to that fucking limit.
He had this feeling for what a car
could and couldn't do.
He, better than almost anybody of his era,
could get the car to that limit
and everybody was scared of him.
He was super dangerous.
Damn, they got a Porsche 911 GRS.
You need to step your game up, Joe.
Fuck your GT3.
See, I don't want to do this.
Yeah, you do.
I definitely don't want to do this. Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. I don't.
Yeah, you do.
I definitely don't.
I like going-
Your GT3's a damn one step below this.
It is.
But I like to go through a canyon at a slightly unreasonable rate of speed.
That's it.
Just slightly.
Hey, slow down.
That's all I like.
§84Transcript · 3:59:39–4:02:49
Hey, man, let's take it easy.
I like to hear a rumble.
I like to joun-shift.
I like to feel a car pulling into a corner.
I don't need to break the law that deep. These motherfuckers are crazy. Dude, I love me a rumble. I like to joun-shift. I like to feel a car pulling into a corner. I don't need to break the law that deep.
These motherfuckers are crazy.
Dude, I love me a Ford GT.
How often do guys die in racing?
Oh, they die all the time, man.
Oh, really?
I don't think that often.
Two a year?
Not so much anymore.
Not so much anymore.
Well, how often?
They had a bunch of regulations put in place after Dale Earnhardt died, for instance.
What was the main thing that was killing them?
Well, there's F1.
You're talking about NASCAR over F1.
Seriously, sports.
Stop and think about this.
What kind of sport, other than race car driving, does one of the number one guys die on the
job and everybody's like, well, back to work.
But they can get really bad wrecks now and they walk away from it.
Is it because of the new technology?
For sure.
They're barely moving in those little cockpits.
Their heads are stuck to the
RSRs. That's actually really
good news, man. I wish I knew that.
I do know that. Thank you, Jamie.
Thank you. Well, that's awesome that they figured
that out. That definitely is
a comfort. But it's still a dangerous
sport. A dangerous
endeavor. And these guys are
athletes, for sure, right? I would agree.
It takes a lot of
fucking you got to be tuned in it's exhausting i don't know some of these guys rates man it's
physical activity it's arguable it's not athletes in the same extent it's not an athlete the same
extent as like an mma fighter or a basketball player or someone who relies on endurance as
well as explosive ability skeptical ability skeptical this is my thing
this is a physical how is this any different well yeah how's any different if i play uh a race car
game on my couch in uh sauna um you can't die you fuck okay so jesus christ what kind of question
is that this is real shit if you play a game on your sauna. They barely ever die, though.
They barely ever die.
Oh, come on, man.
It's still the thrill of this. It's real they die.
The terror of getting in an accident, even if you don't think you're going to die.
So is jumping through a plane a sport?
Is jumping through a plane a sport?
Jumping through a plane.
Jumping off a plane, sorry.
Oh.
Is hang gliding a sport?
Are there competitions about hang gliding?
You bet your sweet ass there are.
It's a physical activity
See I think the problem is the definition
The definition is just
You know
Trying to put this
We know what this is
This is car racing
It's a competition though
But why does it have to be
A sport
Or a game
Or an endeavor
This is fucking car racing
This is what it is
Like there's no need to categorize it
And decide whether or not it's a sport
Hey man you're the one that said it's a sport
But enjoy it for whatever the fuck you
Enjoy the righty see it's on Fox Sports one, bro. I mean, it's not on fucking CNN money's involved money sport
Poker sport
This poker sports
Five sports one
Yes, okay that gets weird, right?
I know, right?
That gets weird.
And they do it for hours.
It takes a lot of focus.
Dark Frisbee's on ESPN, too.
Okay, well, then is chess a sport?
Because chess is, like, more complicated.
What about Go?
It's more complicated than chess.
It's very tough.
Right?
Chess boxing, did you ever see that?
Oh, that's retarded.
That's ridiculous.
Don't do that anymore, guys.
That's tough.
Hey, let's stop doing that.
Hey, let's hit him in the head and then make him do complex moves's ridiculous. Don't do that anymore, guys. That's tough. Hey, let's stop doing that. Hey, let's hit him in the head and then make him do complex math.
Stop.
Don't do that anymore.
§85Transcript · 4:02:50–4:03:57
That's a gimmick, man.
There's a lot of gimmicks.
Sports is tough.
These fucking cars are so goddamn capable today.
It's amazing.
When you look at cars just a few decades ago, car engineering is at an amazing level right now.
Some sort of really strange place.
It seems like it's kind of at a standstill.
What point does this go away?
What point does this go away
when you have fucking Teslas driving themselves
and then you have a Ferrari
with a thousand horsemen driving itself?
Eddie Bravo, are you baiting me here?
No, no, no.
What the fuck are you doing, man?
Standstill?
Standstill?
How dare you?
They're still on wheels.
The wheels are rubber.
The frames are aluminum.
They got two headlights.
They got a steering wheel.
Can we restart it?
I have to stop it and restart it.
Okay, we're going to restart it.
We're going to keep going.
I don't want to stop.
Let's keep going.
All right, we're going to take a leak, folks.
We run out of...
Our files can only be like so long.
So I don't know what's going on with that.
This is like some shit they're going to laugh about one day.
It only takes a second.
It only takes a minute, girl, to fall in love.
We'll be right back.
You really going to take a break?
Yeah, fuck it.
Dude, we're rolling.
It's like one of the greatest podcasts of all time.