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Wheeler Walker Jr.: Wheeler Walker, Jr.

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§01Transcript - 00:11 start

00:11boom that's it we're live we're on now yeah Joe Rogan my man thanks so much for having me back thanks for coming back there's a lot of everywhere I this is the Tonight Show man before I go man heard you on Joe Rogan heard you on Joe Rogan it's been the last year my life so um I can stop stop answering them when I'm going to be back I'm back right now you are back right now yeah feels weird it feels like it feels like I was here like two days ago that's uh a problem maybe you were drinking too much on the road I definitely was drinking too much I'm I I uh I went to my the last tour I ended up uh in uh I don't want to smake it's not too bad ended up in the emergency room in the last tour with the with the IVs with the and yeah uh went a little too I don't know I don't they said it was kind of just exhaustion and you know whatever and not you know the normal I think they

01:08wouldn't the people at the emergency room wouldn't believe me that I wasn't you know on hardcore drugs cuz cuz they come in and I'm just I'm out of it and I um they're like what you know where you been I've been I've been on tour and they're like oh we know what's up and then they of course did all my blood work and there was no in there and then nothing at all no I think I think it was honestly kind of just I mean it w they they did find some kind of like V like a bug you know some kind of whatever just bug that I had been on that probably was more of it than I thought but I really do think it was just um kind of nonstop every night rocking out and you know pushing it a little too hard so you really did wind up in the emergency room yeah yeah it was I mean the official diagnosis was just exhaustion what were you worried about like what did you think you didn't

01:57think you could just go to sleep like how does go to the Happ what happened was I um I was off the tour and I had a meeting with some managers and and in the meeting I barfed like in in a in a nice building we're in a nice building talking about we're actually talking about the that Rick is over here doing with like guys in suits and I threw up on myself whoa and they go are you okay and I go I think I am and then they hand me a banana to get some food in me and I couldn't peel the banana so then I just I drove myself to the emergency room you couldn't peel the banana I didn't have the strength to open a banana really yeah um but I do now um and then I um I drove myself to the emergency room and they hooked me up to IVs like put me on fluids and everything just to give you an example I I so they when they finally said I was good to go I went back out and I couldn't find my

02:49car and I just I checked my parking ticket I was like where's this lot and I called the guy in in the lot he's like yeah your car is in here it's the windows are down and it's running I apparently I just drove myself to the emergency room and closed the doors and walked in the emergency room and said help me wow um so yeah and I actually you know who was we talked about last time guy who was a big help to me then I was just like I reached out to sturch I was just like you know do you ever get like just cuz at the time I just I didn't know I had a bug I thought it was just you know pure exhaustion which again doesn't that sound like the old rock you know the rock star like heroin excuse like he's exhausted he has to cancel a tour and I reached out to sturg he's just like yeah man you got to you know take care of yourself out there just you know it's mental physical

03:36everything fatiguing you know I think I need to figure out a way it's funny I I I forget who you were talking to a few weeks ago talking about um you're talking serious about like suicide and stuff and about how exercise is such an important part of that and I've been on a pretty like vigorous I've been you can't tell but I've been running a ton what you've been running too yeah and um I was talking to a doctor recently and he was like uh um uh he was telling me about a study they did with um with like 200 depr he told me it was like a couple maybe 200 depressed people and they the study was half of them they gave Prozac the other half they put on a strict like running regimen he said there was no difference between the two it's like they both they were both helped a ton and the the running I don't want to give out you know medical information but that's you

04:26know yeah the woman I had on Kelly Brogan she's psychiatrist she said that it's more effective that exercise is actually more effective than psych meds I'm I'm wondering if that just the fact that a doctor told me that makes me think that he was airing on you know he still wants to sell the drugs but I'm just wondering if like um cuz I started when I run I feel great you mean I can't do it in cowboy boots and but you know it's hard to do it on it's hard to wake when you're on when you do the tours toour it's just hard to wake up before a show and just yeah it's very hard but you got to do it you got to do it like it's brushing your teeth like it's you know it's just something that is if you give yourself the possibility that you won't do it then you won't do it exactly and I think in my back of my head I'm like well this is a tour this is a little vacation a

05:12little break and that's just that's when I need it the most so I got to start when you think about it as a tour is that what you think about I think about it as work I think about as work but I think about it as like that's my excuse for not oh okay oh yeah it's definitely it's definitely more work than anything yeah the human brain seeks Comfort man we like to ourselves up by trying to take those little naps that you don't really need and blow things off that you really should do it's a weird thing oh we just got back from New York City and I I fell asleep on the couch for when you know I just woke up from I just slept for 12 hours wow and I feel I mean I feel great now but I bet it would help you with this touring I bet if you like really got hardcore into shape and started eating right I bet it would definitely help you oh totally yeah well I'm not going to we got a tour lined up

05:56for I think mid July and I'm not I'm not going if I don't do like if I don't get up and if I don't make sure there's someone there making me do all that I'm ain't going to do the tour because I dud I've been looking at your tour online I've been looking at some of the photos and videos from your shows they're insane yeah it's been pretty crazy you know you're doing giant places I don't know about giant but you know uh hoping that it gets bigger but um it's been it's been fun it's a it's a um it's been a blast you know one to me one thing I I hate to change the subject but it's just like um you know I got the new record out here point out and um still making records yeah this I think this one's better but Jamie what do you think that's not what I mean I mean like actual physical copies yeah I know it's the only thing I can bring I can't like bring it I like a link to

06:43Spotify I should have just F yeah um it's almost like these are kind of silly now yeah cuz I gave it to one guy he's like my you you give it to somebody like their desktop I mean their laptop doesn't even have a CD player doesn't like thanks for the CD I'll throw it in the back of the the car and load we you listen to it in the car most cars still have a CD player for now I'll bet they'll stop pretty soon oh yeah for sure I used to have a an Acura NSX and had a cassette player in it still yeah the cell phone holders that's where they're putting the thing to hold them now instead of put it in your air your air filter thing or the where the AC comes out to clip on that there's like a little thing that spreads out and just fits in the CD slot ah taking up space I don't know about you but what my new thing is everywhere I go you know I rent a I rent a car I'll get to the airport

07:28and I'll rent a car right and the first 20 minutes is me sitting in that car trying to figure out the Bluetooth and it every you find that it's just like every one they make it so impossible yeah I love Cadillacs but godamn that Escalade infotainment system is a piece of it's so bad it's so hard to work apparently they they switched it now they're going to do Apple carplay which is infinitely better yeah my Uber driver had that the other day I I asked him finally had something to talk about with my Uber driver he was tell explaining it to me it looked like the whole interface was just on the yeah it's like a phone yeah it's not the whole interface cuz you know you can't get most your apps but you get things like messages podcasts things along those lines yeah I mean the good I mean what I was kind of getting to before is you know we're talking about the crowds

§02Transcript - 08:11 start

08:11and which was when I first put out these crazy records of mine um you know the the the Assumption was um you know there's no there there's nowhere to go R terrestrial radio won't play me I ain't doing foul and all that but I don't want to kiss your ass too much you know you know that but it was kind of finding this kind of like this is all everything's equal now it's like I it was that was kind of the big breakthrough for me was like and I did a few weeks ago did Joey Coco Diaz who's my new favorite dude he's the best ever I'm now I'm now in the Rogan world I did that in Bert ker it's like this it's like it's like doing The Tonight Show then like Cole it's and I'm telling you these things and I've got numbers to prove it it's there is no mainstream media it's it's like if you go through the back door and do all this it's it's bigger than that well mainstream media

09:03if you know if you know the actual numbers that they get it's it's not even close like a good show on CNN you know might get a million a million and a half views if we got a million and a half downloads we'd be pretty bummed out at this point yeah it's crazy cuz the the week I came in here I never even told you this so that week I came in here another someone told I someone has access to these numbers I don't have them but they said I sold more albums from being on here than the artist that week did on SNL so this is that makes sense like what does SNL get what kind of views SNL get on a good episode we'll get 10 million downloads that's CRA I mean also too you know here it's you know it's me talking to you on SNL it's like do they make it to the music probably not they're just there to watch some funny well not only that they don't watch the whole thing cuz SNL

09:54I love SNL sometimes SNL is one of those things that they you like 70% of the time yeah I got really pissed about 8.7 million views oh with the rock that's a big one oh the finale okay so that's their big one of the year so their so their big one is is smaller than yours yeah a normal one okay Melissa mly was 10 million those top for the year oh the top two okay so our top one for the year was Alex Jones which was what 15 million and then number two' be Neil I think was and Alex Jones got to put out a country record he should he probably should reptilians and black helicopters and he could do it too from Texas that would sell yeah I would if Alex Jones to just went into country music country new world order music I'll I'll out I'll produce that you should go on a show you should go on a show and just start talking crazy about Sturgill again yeah oh by the way

10:50and this is not for lawyer reasons but um sturg Simpson is not affiliated with the CIA nor is he a trained CIA assassin I want want to get that on the record last time it's possible I may have mentioned that I think you did I think you said he worked for James Comey and he was uh yeah he is no affiliation with the CIA he's doing some weird gigs in Europe this this year that look a little fishy to me and I don't get it but you think he might be over there doing some hits on the side well the lawyer part of me says No but the sensible part of me he's doing some dates in Europe with John pryan I think John Pry kind of you know talks to him sett him down and then stur takes who's that guy who's John PR you know John PR great uh folk kind of country singer he's great he's I'm just getting into the country world I would almost call him like more like folk he's more in that kind of

11:44isbel St him and sturg will share an office in Nashville yeah isbell's in a weird category right he's kind of country but he's also kind of folk yeah I mean at this days we don't know nowadays what the is country who the I complain about all the time but you know Jason his is a bad though oh dud godamn and his I heard a few songs from his new record sounds killer yeah I think he's going to ruffle some feathers too because it sounds like a little political which is a no no in that world you know so um it's a kind of a crazy day did you watching that this morning Comey stuff no I didn't watch it did you watch it I watched some of it but it was I felt like it was a waste it's just like we knew before it's just like politicians lie uh Comey was like I felt like we knew all I didn't see I didn't see anything new it seems like it's way too easy to fire him like you

12:35could just decide you don't like what he's doing and fire him there does seem to be any like real clear definitive reason why he was fired yeah I mean like the to me like the main news is like like I said politicians lie you know news fles and the other one was like you know they kept making the point that like Trump is a different is different than most presidents we like he used to host a reality show no we knew that you know it's like that was their big takeaway it's like two hours of I just Ed the time to tweet about my new record saying how I kept tweeting that James Comey was it was all code for my new record that he wanted people to buy it I know I saw some of your Instagram post that had uh Comey endorsing your album yeah he's a big fan he he he he said he wanted to talk about it during the hearings cuz that's a big audience but apparently they wouldn't let him yeah collusion

13:18between me and Comey would have things up is that what it's called yeah it's uh well actually it's funny cuz this guy cuz there's they say there's a chance which looking less like there's this guy Luke comes who's like my arch nemesis even though he's a good dude I just who's up against me this week on the country charts cuz my album comes out my new album came out this week and I'm trying to beat him and I said on on Twitter that Russians have colluded with Sony records to like have him out sell me and he kind of played along so we'll see I I think I think they are I mean National's definitely trying to keep me down but are they really are they with you like how how are they receiving you now now that you've become a mainstream success cuz I hear about you all the time Donald cowboy Cerrone and I think you know that he listens to your music before he goes out and fights

14:03oh cowboy Cerrone reached out to me thanks to you he called he called me up and he was on the set of a movie with Michael Madson and uh they go I don't know how it seems like last second but they go hey Cowboy you got a scene tomorrow where you sing karaoke with Michael Madson any song you want to sing and he's like eating kicking ass the producer's like what the you talking about he's like I want to sing eaten kicking ass he's like do you have the rights to this song He's like I'll have it in like 5 minutes and he just calls me I call my peop like now I'm in a movie with cowboy Cerrone and Michael Madson singing eating kicking ass he said he was in the trailer you know like you know rehearsing with Michael Madson you know gets to the sucking dick Park and I think he was just like what the we singing here man so yeah he's been he's been he's been awesome and um yeah kind like I

14:51said too I'm now in like your world you know doing I just did I was telling you before I did Joey Coco Diaz ber ker like all these dudes it's like it's cool to have It's cool cuz I went into this second album I was like I got to make my money back you know it wasn't about the money I'm just saying it's like what am I going it's going to be the same again but like knowing I have these other places to go now is so great yeah well that's there's a transition happening and I think for the longest time they always felt like the whole idea of mainstream media like that was just going to be locked up that was going to be the case forever CBS NBC The Cable News Network they were going to be there forever that it's not really the case anymore it's just and like I said I've got the numbers to prove it but you know I came everyone was telling me you know you can't get on

15:38Good Morning America you can't be on terrestrial radio and I just kind of looked into finding this and you guys been being supportive and it's just like these things are it's it's all I I think I saw Mark Maron some guy was tweeting him like how your podcast it ain't The Tonight Show or something and he he said something back to the guy you know it's just all media now and that's kind of how I look at it it's all even right I mean I mean you guys are are probably bigger than main you know what they quote unquote mainstream media but it's to me it's just all it's all part of the same thing like yeah what's bigger than what's more popular is all kind of silly but the one thing that's different is that if you go to mainstream media if you go to television shows for the most part you're not going to get 100% dedicated audience you get people are just flipping through the

§03Transcript - 16:26 start

16:26channels so some people might fall upon it because they were looking for it but a whole lot of people are just going to be flipping channels like what's on let's exactly and the people who listen to you like that's why the first pod you know I don't want this whole podcast to be a review of the last one although I wouldn't mind CU I had a blast but the whole when they tune in to you they're like it's like it's your buddy if you say buy the new Wheeler Walker Jr record they buy it buy the new Wheeler Walker Jr record there I said it they're going to buy it now can you um it's called old old wheeler by the way I just fig found out something you guys either you guys know about this I became a hit yesterday on something I never heard of on black Twitter you became a h on black Twitter you know black Twitter I didn't know what it was Jam's a big fan of black Twitter he he alerted me to

17:12Black Twitter I wasn't even aware ago I didn't I didn't know but the more black people I can bring to country music the happier I'm going to be Darius Rucker is not bringing in a ton no no that's all white people yeah is it mostly white girls too right probably yeah yeah yeah but no no I'm the king I'm the king of black country and I'll say that loud and yeah so they took a clip from a um you from the first record and some one of the big black Twitter guys put like a a clip of it and just at the top it's like I didn't know country music went this hard and so then it like got it got millions and millions of views and I and all of a sudden my cuz now my the new album old wheeler by it now um is out and the first one's going back up the charts too because of black Twitter so we got white white people buying the new one and black people buying the old one interesting yeah

18:03who's this guy if you know black TR you know dayquan oh yeah dayquan you know dayquan who it's a really big Instagram account I'll pull it up for you and who is this fella is he it's not a fella it's a group of people like the Jerry counter I have no idea but and then so they're like a business definitely and then Erica Badoo tweeted about it and who's that she's a big uh she's a singer yeah she the biggest singer singer the biggest singer in the '90s no no no a big singer in the 90s oh s Tyrone Tyrone the song I feel like I'm calling in from another planet I have no idea this the black show today yeah black Twitter is fascinating to me I thought it was like a hashtag but it's not even uh dayquan 9 million followers wow yeah go down you'll see you'll see it down there somewhere um they post there is right there it is on the right yeah I never I never heard of a country

18:56diss track till now uh you broke 2 mil 700,000 views and that was in a few hours after being on the road for a year I should have just talked to dayquon yeah well there's so many those guys that have uh YouTube accounts now too that they'll put up a video just talking about something that just happened in the news and they'll get 7 million views you know what's crazy you say that cuz I am one of I work with call me up he go they go who's Jehovah I go I and and they go some somebody on your video keeps talking about Jehovah and so of course I look it up there's a guy playing V he just plays video games in his parents basement and while he was playing the video and you know millions of people watch while he's playing the video games he was singing my songs just along to it and like the album started sell like went back up to the charts it's like that's the world we live in now is a dude in

19:55his mom's basement singing sorry if you live in your mom's basement Jehovah but he probably doesn't he's probably making millions of dollars playing video games that's what's crazy and then he go calls me and then he he tweets me he goes um I always thought about doing a podcast he goes you mind if I just Skype in and just do one just try it out with you and I'm like that's where other you know artists would just be like that I go I'm home just yeah let's do it so I went on his he posted an interview with me on his YouTube page and it just I don't know that it was huge but it was just like why why not say why say no just like it's like you said it's all even now yeah it's it might not even be even guys like that PewDiePie guy I don't know how much he's dropped off since the Nazi controversy but that guy was he has millions and millions of downloads for every single thing he does

20:44like he might be above mainstream media like if you that I think that's one of the reasons why he felt like they were going after him like the Wall Street Journal went after him was it the Washington Post or the Wall Street Journal Wall Street Journal I think it was both of them eventually they went after him and they kind of made it seem like he was a Nazi sympathizer he was making a few inappropriate jokes appar what he say what' he say he just joked around and did like a SE High salute or something like that but he was apparently making fun of people that were Nazis making fun of the idea of being Nazis that's crazy that's been all been distorted and I agree with you I mean like I was like this new record I feel like there's people out there they going go after you that are coming after me and trying to make sure I don't chart High which by the way I'm banned from

21:26all the chains are you really yeah Best Buy Best Buy Walmart Walmart who buys this stuff anymore what the weird thing is country music fans do and that pissed me off yeah and there's this other site pledge pled pledge music where you can pre-order albums there I was the first album they ever dropped so they're buying CDs still is that like one of the few like genres that still buy CDs one of the few genres that buy CDs so I can't compete with you know on the charts as well because they're making sure I don't go and I think honestly it's not just the language that's bothering it's the fact that I'm doing it outside this oh yeah like you can't go on Rogan and Joey Diaz and you know like we have a way we do it we do it on the radio we go on Tonight Show like you're messing up like it's all these guys in suits walking down Music Nashville like you're don't tell

22:15anyone that don't tell anyone that nobody needs us you're going to up our jobs yeah well I think also they don't like that you're I mean you're opening up the door for people doing pretty much anything in country music now with the crazy lyrics and the fact that it's been so successful and you got people you got a whole goddamn theater filled thousands of people singing along to eating and kicking ass my favorite my my favorite one is when I go out and tour and there I see a sea of just like like d you know Bros backwards baseball hats and they're all singing along which one you queer is going to suck my dick and they're singing every word and for all I know like I was going to call it the make America gay tour just cuz I think they're all going home I think they I think they cuz they listen to Everything I think they're just going home and blowing each other do you think

23:02that you have that kind of power with a really good song to get a guy to goomo I mean if anyone can it's me cuz my songs are that good but I mean but there's but there's no way these dudes have ever in their life screamed which one you queer is going to suck my dick yeah I would I would imagine in a open area so yeah but along with a bunch of other people doing it that's the thing gives them Freedom yeah I think it's weird yeah it's probably weird for their wives when they go what they have a wife yeah what' you do tonight we went out with 800 dudes and screamed about blowing each other she'd go hm did you actually blow each other like girls will find a loophole like no we didn't actually do it okay yeah I think I'm kind of I'm hoping to get some of the women back with this with this do you think you lost a lot of them with you no the women that's the women's

23:49favorite song because they could I think they they could sing it too they can they they see it like from um Victory perspective both ways yeah that that they had that much that they had that much like for example the woman who made me write you had that much power over me to make me write that does she know who she is um I think she does now unfortunately but um do you think she laughs no I think she's honestly upset and I've and I've had that's happened a couple times I've been I've been on some uh you know this this is new this is podcast I love called I think you've talked about before too the guys we podcast which is basically women talking about women talking about dudes the way that guys talk about women right and I love it and and it's it's the way women talk about men when we're not around so it's like an eye opener for dudes but for some reason there's been

§04Transcript - 24:42 start

24:42no no one's really done that before and I was in New York doing press and they reached out before they wanted to use one of my songs I was like while I'm out there I like can I stop by and of course I just start telling a bunch of stories and then my phone starts blowing up like don't you know don't tell don't talk that and I got got in a lot of trouble for that one cuz you can't really go telling those kind of Stories on cuz my thing was no I I didn't know that the podcast was that popular yeah they're very popular so a lot they're a good example of what I use is like people always try to say that oh you can't start a new podcast and have it be successful today I'm like that's not true those girls started that podcast just a couple of years ago it's gigantic yeah I mean I got a lot of people talk I mean I got in a lot I lost some over but I got I got in a lot of trouble

25:25that's sad well don't forget I got a podcast too do yeah when did you start doing that uh like a month ago um it's you what's weird is it's doing it was a number one music podcast for like a month and I and I and I'll even admit like the problem with doing a podcast now and you I'll I kind of want your notes on this but the problem is with someone like me who sells records is I didn't I don't get the um months of um testing and you know it's like they hear it from the everyone listen to the first you know there's no way way there's I can't experiment as much and I can't you know I see what you're saying yeah well that's the case with us too our first ones are terrible well I'm saying to but I yeah but but it was probably before but it was at least before it got huge yeah yeah for sure but they're still available like if people I'm going to start from the

26:14beginning they might get to episode three and go this dude yeah I mean you were in the early days you were doing just like straight to video right with like video effects and like that yeah sometimes yeah we had snowflakes in the background and we do it right to a webcam I love it yeah I mean it's been fun it's it's a cool way to just talk directly you know to your people but um it's not my natural what happens is and and you had you had you talked a good example about it the other day which is you just have conversations like I've been doing them all over the phone because all the musicians don't want to talk to on the road and when you do it over the phone it becomes like an interview and I don't want to interview I just want to talk to my friends um over the phone and over Skype they're both weird I mean it's better than nothing some people do it well like Sam

26:59Harris does a good podcast over Skype but I think that it's uh it's just you lose something you want to be in the room with somebody yeah I mean Bert was the one who told me that and said like you know don't do it over the phone and and then I did one in person with a singer I really like and it was so much better we were just hanging out that's what that's what I like to listen to when I listen to podcast is Budd he's hanging out you know so when you started touring from your last album and it was this just just out of the gate surprise Smash Hit took the whole country music industry by storm what was that like did you did it feel surreal cuz it seemed surreal on the outside yeah it felt what felt surreal was because of my that's why it's this one's so much different is like and I kind of hate it there's expectations cuz what I I left the studio on the first album with the I

27:51just paid cash for I think I told you I didn't have a label I didn't have any way to release it and I was just like this is a great record but it's a bummer no one's going to hear it and then I finally started getting it out there and so then I really thought it was going to just be like a cult record and like I was going to run into some dude 10 years from now down the street go you know I dig the record but then when he you know the guys who do the tours for me were calling up like you're not going to believe this man we sold out you know you know la like the whole West what's weird for me is because it's so country to me it's like we did a West Coast tour and I'm like what the we doing a West Coast tour for it's like the whole West Coast sold out it's like how the did I sell tickets in Seattle and Portland that makes no sense to me like do do they even know what country music is

28:37there I think I I think it's almost like they're looking at me like in a glass cage like look at the look at the redneck and his like natural habitat kind of thing you think so I think they're just having fun man well I think they're having fun I think it's that too I think they're also if you there are a lot of people out there who do love country music and if you love it there's not much of it left anyway not to mention not much that probably goes to Seattle or Portland isn't isn't there seemingly some sort of a Resurgence though in like really good country music seems like there is seems like there is a little bit you know you know there's stel Isel you know the guy the guys who still aren't Stapleton Stapleton yeah um yeah I mean I I defin I feel it too but then again you know there's there was an award show on there's like a country music award show on like every

29:21week now are they really well there's a lot there was one last night like for the CMT Awards like how they even have AR don't they just show redneck reality shows what would the what would the SC is CMT still Country Music Television cuz I think they're like changing or something right aren't they changing like their I think they're yeah they reached out to me about something and I said I told them I wanted to host the Top 20 Countdown I got a hard pass on that I think they're like you would you make fun of the artist I'm like if they're shitty yeah and it's like all right see you later um yeah I feel like um real country's coming back but I also feel like the shitty stuff is getting bigger like they're going at the same like it's not that pop bro Country which I talked a lot about last time Florida Georgia Line yeah well there's a new there's a new song by this guy Chris Jansen called

30:07fix the drink that just came out cuz I'm looking at everything that's coming out the same week as mine the song fix the drink was it was the worst thing I've ever heard in my life um it's this white guy just kind of rapping about like Fox News and he sings about I can't fix the world but I can fix you a drink I'm like Jesus Christ I mean it doing well it's see doing better than me there's a lot of mutants out there yeah I mean there there's a lot of F I mean who the would I mean even if you're not an expert music fan who would want to listen to a song about a dude fixing a drink a dude who wants to fix a drink a dude with limited use of his brain exactly it's just like that's like his main that's like his main um but think about it there's a we know there's a lot of idiots right think about how many people are just dull-minded folks and then think about how few people are

30:54talking directly to them then finally someone someone comes along that does they're like finally finally yeah finally finally enough about you know life and you know enough sturg you know about life and like what it's about finally someone something I can relate to just how much how much whiskey how much sour you know that's what I want to hear about some people just want life simpled down and isn't that sort of always been the knock on country music in the beginning is that country music what it does it sort of re reinforces these stereotypes of this simplified world doesn't really ex that they tried to get me on that before I was just like like how so I think they were just like you know you're like doing like a you're like mocking redneck you're using a mocking like red like redneck and all the crazy you know like your cat and like you know you know killing your dog and all that but I

31:41didn't think they got that I was just kind of making fun of my buddies back you know like right what the cliche of being a redneck was you know and I still see it it's weird cuz we were talking about the political like in SNL there was a there was a sketch on SNL near the end of the season I don't you saw it but it was Alec Baldwin doing Trump and he was in a small town called Union Kentucky is what they said which is actually not far from me and the whole um idea of the sketch was that this that um which I've been hearing a lot with these well these southern people who were so dumb that they voted against Trump against their own interest which I'm so sick of that narrative you know against their own interest how can they say that well they're just saying that like there's a lot of there's been a lot of in the Press about how you know these old quote

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32:25unquote Southerners and rednecks voted for Trump but it's like they're the ones who are they're the ones who are going to lose their health have you been hearing that a lot I don't know maybe it's just from my point of view but I found it very condescending to uh to kyans just you know I don't like the sketches it seems like you know likeif like the 40s you know like some character hey Mr Trump I got a you know that kind of you know I think the people are nervous because the same thing that you're saying when you're s talking about how there's no mainstream media anymore and there's just media when a guy like Donald Trump gets in office it's it's changed what being a politician is because now it seems like anybody could be a politician now we had a reality star that became the president of the United States what what you know what is this but there's no real president then

33:16it's just a guy we have no control like we can't there's nothing we can control anymore we can't stop non-politicians from being president anymore and it seems like they would be able they were able to do that for the longest time obviously a lot of other factors he's very rich he's very famous he he handled a bunch of politicians for many many years and paid them off and understood understood from behind the scenes is that going to be the next 20 presidents are they all going to mean president Kanye coming up Mark Mark hbin is the one they're talking about but that he's a good one he's he's Rich he's on he's nice guy smart yeah I mean why not he'd be superior it's entirely possible he might do it yeah I mean that's the one I keep hearing but yeah it could just be from now on you just buy the presidency well it could be I mean until we figure out that's a dumb idea that

34:02being a president is a dumb idea it's a dumb idea to have one person running that just the fact that Trump has the ability to fire that Comey guy is ridiculous that he could just say I don't I don't like what you're doing you're fired like doesn't he have to have some like rock like if you get fired from Walmart they have to have a reason like you you can get fired from the head of the FBI and you just he doesn't like the fact that you're not willing to drop an investigation that seems like that seems insane the whole yeah the whole thing is just like I mean there's nothing more you can say other than that this guy hosted a reality show now he's president and I think that's another thing that scares people about old wheeler Walker Jr is you know country stars aren't allowed to talk about that you know you can't talk politics you got you got to right man when the

34:50Dixie Chicks talked about George they still can't go go back yeah they're done what happened with that they they were essentially blackballed from country music for years for saying that they were against the war which by the way which which Trump basically got elected say you know he was he kept saying he he was against that war too so they like you know well I think they said that he's an embarrassment that they're embarrassed that George Bush is their president I think it had more to do they said it at a club in England so doing it out of the country it's like you can't leave the country and talk about America while you're not but that's if that was pop music that would be super standard like no big yeah that's the weird thing I mean like you know me and we grew up on like Dylan and you know Beatles And whatever Henri people all they did was talk about that you know Neil Young

35:36it's like he has whole albums just you know this politician this guy and you just can't do it in country I don't know why that is you know well it's the same thing we're talking about that simplified narrative that these stereotypes of this world where you know you go to bed and you get up in the morning the bird's chirping and you work hard all day and you know and everybody loves God and it's it's just this simple version of the world that's boiled down to like there's there's things that are allowed inside the simple version of the world and there's things that are expected and then there's things that are just not discussed you don't discuss sucking dick and kicking ass yeah I mean you're supposed to keep that to yourself about sucking dick and kicking ass you're not supposed to in any way mock the president well that's the that's yeah I mean that's the other thing too

36:24is uh you know my first single King you knew then the first song is I put that out and I I got everyone got so pissed you know you can't be I go and I said in the interviews I'm like I heard worse talk about this on Meet the press you know they show right all that grab the talk yeah I like I'm not grabbing the I'm just talking about how I'm going to stick my dick in it if with with consent you know yeah I don't think I use the word consent in the song but I think even grabb him by the was implied consent cuz he was saying they let you they let you grab him by that whole thing was so weird because it's like I hate to still be talking about it but it's like I know I just found it funny like it didn't change my opinion of the guy at all just well you knew it was a scumbag I mean you knew in in whatever ways that's just who he is I think part of it too is I don't know about you guys

37:16but like I'd never heard that phrase before grabb him by the you know it's like no something I'd heard so was new here I have a question for you guys I have a question for you what do you think here's a theory I have which is okay do you think someone in the Trump organization I've been wondering this for like a year now secretly after that happened cuz he's smart no doubt he's a smart businessman copyrighted that phrase CU you know spring break from now on there's going to be grabbing by the shirts maybe for a little while you could sell it but I think that's kind of died off those things have like a short shelf life like those fidget Spinners anybody making those fidget Spinners sell as many as you can now cuz a year from now no one's going to have fidget spin is that part of black Twitter no no no it's uh kids they have these little things and they spin them

38:00and they hold them up on their finger and they spin around in circles they're weird people buy them like crazy yeah I I was looking at them the other day I was like how the did this become a popular item but it won't be for very long you know it's now you say yeah now I've seen those on online just these things spin yeah they're nothing is that how dumb we've become you just like watching spin around yep well there's another thing they're doing this antistress device that you hold on to and it's got like switches on it and buttons that don't do anything you just hit switches and press buttons and supposedly like if you hold on to this thing while you're stressed out and start hitting switches and pressing buttons you feel better yeah I'm sure that works like a charm yeah um I think we go back to let's just run instead by the we haven't even mentioned but uh I think Rick you're

38:45cut uh I'm so big now they're doing a TV special this is we have a guy here from Showtime Showtime special on they're doing they're recording my life and work and uh you can't and uh i t you know it's weird for me to going to that they're making a TV special about me but they're letting me do it on censored and all you know telling the real story and uh I was like it just shoot it all right man but um they follow me around like that and I'll do a interview in five minutes and I'll just go get the out of here wow how with that is he does he bring it up afterwards and go hey man the way you told me to off was that D that guy's really cool because the the um the guy's doing it I don't know if I'm allowed to say his name he's part of the jackass crew so he's he's he's um literally Jack the show Jackass so like the fact that he there's no goat jizz and I'm sure he's just happy yeah he's

39:40excited there's no explosions and also don't forget he's working so anytime someone says off he's off the clock so oh there you go that's right so he gets to relax yeah so uh this Showtime thing is it uh are they doing a Showtime special like you're going to play your music on yeah I I don't know how much much music is going to they've been following me around forever and they're going to do like I don't know what the title will be cuz like I said this is literally the first time I've ever mentioned on any sort of Jesus it's a scoop yeah it's do you got that Rogan exclusive button you can press yeah wish we had one and they've been following me around for years and um not years but for a couple years now and we got old obviously I've been we got footage from the old days so they're going to tell my whole life story and we'll get some songs in there and you know I was just

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40:26like to be able to hopefully tell it my my way and not sick of all these uh all these lies and rumors lies and rumors yeah I mean yeah it was it was weird too because that was another thing too about Comey today which is Comey admitted he's like they kept bringing up these New York Times articles he's like no that's not true you know almost like backing up Trump you know he's saying like you know these these stories if the head of the FBI under oath is saying that these story he said it's he goes how much of it's TR he's like none head of the FBI is saying that New York Times article is completely untrue I I got to believe them you know yeah there's definitely people that are printing things they hope are true with a limited amount of uh references that can verify it yeah it's like and there's also twoo there's there's there's stories that will sell newspapers you know it's not just that

41:14it's also the bias of the people that are writing the stores who are heavily left wi you're really freaking me out with that bottle you keep opening it and closing it yeah this is still from this is from the airport are you tweaking no I'm from seems like you got something going on with opening and closing that bottle it's like I'm going to stop a fidget thing like a one of them fidget Spinners that's what it is that's we wheeler uh water bottles to get the stress relievers wheeler Walker water bottles um what were we just talking about U stress you were talking about New York Times something oh the bias of the people who are writing it they want to get at Trump so if they have any sort of an article that even might be true they kind of think might be true it seems like it would be exciting if it was true they just run with it I thought that was interesting what Comey said

42:02actually which is like because it's highly classified information he's not allowed he's not allowed to go out there and say it's not true right cuz that would that would you know sure would put them in a weird place of then you know what top secret information isn't true so he has to keep quiet about it so so when he's doing these interviews uh and they're they're uh rather um when he's under investigation they giving these statements how do they uh justify it then how does he say it's not true cuz isn't that still top secret well this is you know he's under oath and they're asking him I guess is just the only reason there definitely there were some questions where he said I'm not allowed to you know I can't say that in an open hearing yeah that's what I figured was one of the reasons why Trump could fire him because he wouldn't be able to talk about the investigation until they hired

42:48a special prosecutor and all the stuff that you're seeing now I would assume that you know people like oh comey's gonna talk I'm like well he can't really talk that's one of the reasons why Trump can fire him because that guy's under oath and you know rather all the stuff that he's talking about's he allowed to talk what's he allowed to talk about now that he's gone say is it same rules no it's top secret everything's top secret I bet he's not allowed to talk about his job at all I bet they could fire him not not fire him rather I bet they could arrest him if he uh yeah cuz he admitted today that he he did he admitted that he leaked some stuff yeah but he leaked stuff that was unclassified he just leaked his memos they weren't classified and people were freaking out about it like no he he did it because it was real simple he didn't want to be the one who

43:27was making the statement and the way he described that he he had a funny description he said it would be like feeding seagulls at the beach they would just follow him around and look for more and he was like I just wanted to get the information out there so I I had someone put it out there but he he was honest about it and you know it lets you understand that that's how these people do business and this is this is one of the ways that information does get I think it's just I think a lot of it is guys like uh was that movie All the President's Men I think it's it's a lot of guys who think that they're going to if they get the scoop they're going to have a hit book and like you know Brad Pit's going to play them in a movie if if they get this scoop well there's also that but then there's just if you're an investigative journalist and you're covering the president of United States in this

44:11unprecedented event where a reality star has become the president and he's a liar and he just keeps lying about and getting caught lying about and there's a bunch of people that don't care that he's a liar they're like everybody lies and they just jump on in with it and you don't expect a higher standard of behavior from the number one most influential person in the Free World you know he's still Tweeting about like people that suck and and people who get terrible ratings that's the crazy I mean like uh I mean I'll never forget it I remember watching the Republican one of those Republican debates and he he talked about how fat Rosie O'Donnell was I was like can we do all the debates like this I love this you know like a roast debate like how the even Ros o' Donald's going to be sitting there like why are they talking about my weight Rosie odonnell has decided to dedicate

44:58most of her Twitter feed to on Trump now she's losing her marbles man what about Kathy Griffin too that's that was insane what did you think about that when you saw Kathy Griffin holding up that fake head of Donald Trump covered in blood what did you think well all I think is how how badly do you need attention you know was like I mean exactly what did you think best case scenario like right I think if if if that's your if you Viewpoint is that like you you want the president's head I mean just to Twist It imagine Ted nen holding up Obama's head like it's over dude like well Ted nja did at one point in time say he wanted Obama to suck on his machine gun he did say that words are less powerful than that you know image I guess I heard a picture is worth a thousand words that's what that's what they're saying now that's what they're saying oh well I didn't know was

45:50that I didn't know it gotten that big yeah maybe more than a thousand if it's a picture of Trum was what was it for I I never found out she's just doing it to get attention that's what it was for she sticking around the house and just like I'm going to hold up she had a photographer come over and the photographer set up the thing and you know they covered this mask with blood and she held it up like she was Isis I mean this is not you're not talking about like Guillotines in medieval France that's that's I mean that's just a sign of a idiot yeah you know it's like not only if that's your Viewpoint you got to be smart enough to know that that's only going to hurt your you're where you're coming from well not only that she did this press conference and painting herself out to be a victim she was saying he's a bully and he's trying to ruin her career and then she

46:35was like celebrating the kind of Comedy she does she was like you know I've always pushed pushed the boundaries and I'm you know my comedy is you know it's not for everybody but it's that she was like like relishing the moment to express how she feels about her comedy or to to sort of describe her comedy like and it's not a free speech thing I mean no one no one's saying she didn't have the right to do it we're just all saying she it's it's lame you know it's an attention thing it's all it's purely an attention thing to the point where there's no there's no entertainment value to it like it's one thing if you have some ridiculous idea in your head that is funny or is entertaining that's what I'm saying what was the what was the best case scenario there's no there was nothing no thought it was just like let's do this people are going to see it well the only funny

47:23part for me was that you know you know you know that Mike who does all the photoshopping for Joey Diaz I don't know if you know him but he's been helping me with some photoshop and the second I saw that picture I go do me a favor put my head on Kathy Griffin's head and change um Trump to Sam Hunt and he the dude did did it in five minutes and it looks pretty good and I put it up so then I loved how some of the people thought I was like I actually want I was like no no it's a comment on the Kathy Griffin thing I didn't hear about the Kathy Griffin thing until I saw her apology that's how I found out about it I found out about it through her apology on Instagram and so I was clicking on this video and it was her apology and she looked like hell she looked like she hadn't slept and she was freaking out to when she looked awesome supposed to when she looks hot as

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48:08yeah that's good Photoshop right there it's perfect your your head sits perfectly on her neck it's weird yeah I mean hair's perfect my my beard and her beard look exactly the same I don't think she has a beard dude okay but um I saw the apology and just I was like what did she do like she was like I went too far I went too far you know I'm sorry i' I've seen the comments I went too far I apologize I'm a comedian and sometimes we go too far I was like what the did she do and then I went and saw what she did and I was like o like God I wonder I'm I'm trying to think like have you have you heard anybody even in the comedy have you heard anybody defending her yes who you have to say I don't remember their names but it was a it was a defense of the intent behind it which I agree with the intent behind it meaning what she was trying to do is be funny she was trying

49:03to get some attention she was trying to it's like a joke that you do that falls short like here's a perfect example Bill Mars joke did you hear what he said yeah yeah yeah so if you people haven't heard the senator from Nebraska was it a senator God damn this voice M the senator from Nebraska I believe uh said you uh should come visit we can have you work in the fields and Bill threw his hands up and go not me I'm a house that's what he said and everybody was like what the like what makes you think you can say that and when he did uh HBO released a statement they were pissed off and there was a fire Bill Maher Twitter hashtag thing going on that one don't you think to me is is a little more at least I understand the intent of his joke yeah he was trying to be naughty yeah he made a mistake look PE here here here's the thing he's working on a show okay he's

49:58working on a very important show for HBO that is a very high-profile show there's an extreme amount of pressure extreme amount of Demands there's a lot going on behind the scenes he's probably working very hard he's probably tired and he's in the middle of this interview and he's trying to make something entertainment the guy gives him an opportunity right the guy says you could work in the fields and he's thinking work in the fields work in the fields uh no who works in the fields slaves work in the fields who's the guy that's in the house okay I'm going to say this and he just goes with it to try to be shocking cuz he's you know he tries to be that naughty edgy guy and it just was it was lame and it wasn't funny yeah I get more pissed when I watch when I see his his shows seems like he's when he makes a a joke and they don't he gets mad when they don't when they don't laugh

50:47that's the part that bothers me he's a silly boy yeah but when when he when he made a joke and it was lame he was just trying to be funny like he's trying to entertain people it's important to him his show is important to him it's a very good show he works hard at it and most of the jokes are really funny and there's a lot of edgy controversial jokes on uh Bill Mar show that are really funny and he that's the line he pushes and sometimes you cross that line and he crossed that line is he racist no is he a bad guy no is he an idiot no he made a mistake he's a human being it wasn't like the n-word slipped out talking derogatory you know was trying to make a point about slavery he was just trying to be silly he was trying to be funny he was like he's not like being remember when Dog the Bounty Hunter got caught dropping a bunch of end bombs about people there's there's a way look

51:37there's no words that are forbidden and the idea that the that's that word exists in countless rap songs but you can't sing along to those rap songs from Walmart it's ridiculous I think those rap songs are banned from Walmart too though you you know what I found out recently with which is those um there's Walmart versions of all those albums I didn't know that oh where they they take out the cuss words yes I mean you how I know that I ordered a on iTunes once uh copy of one of the Dead Not Dead Presidents um who the was it it's one of those like hardcore rap bands and uh as I was listening to it it was all this like backwards yeah no like bleeped out or like it like empty spots where there was the I I I I downloaded an Eminem album and all I heard all these backward sounds I thought it was like you know those old sergeant pepper I guess they took all the bad words and just played them

52:35backwards even worse I listened to one from Gangstar and they had alternative words alternative words I was like oh no you can't have alternate words my thing isar why don't the hip-hop guys and why don't just all those like Jay-Z or some big guy go this we ain't doing this anymore I think they're not doing it anymore but the reason why they do it is for money there's so much money out there I mean if they can get their played on radio and get the more it's all about exposure I mean you know it's all about the the most amount of people that you could reach with your stuff yeah well I they asked me to do a clean version I said no good for you but my my um my morals definitely cost is going to cost me a lot of cash nah I don't think so I think in the long run it'll save you money cuz it'll it'll elongate your career cuz if someone's a fan of yours and they're at of barbecue

53:23and someone pulls out the lame version like oh you got to hear this guy's hilarious this guy's crazy and then it's like F you F you you broke my heart screw you girl or you know whatever it is well remember when CEO green had that forget you no no no no it's not forget you it's you why the the song again why can't you say you on the radio doesn't make I mean I know why but yeah it's stupid because a long time ago people were dumb and they thought that the sun was 17 miles away and they thought there was an old man living in the clouds that was had friends that used Harps and that uh you had to be careful with the words you they really are Clinging On to I mean the same thing in like you know TV and like radio they're like they're still like like dude it's like there's a there's YouTube like you know we did it we we we we premiered another video from this record again we did the PornHub

54:19Premiere you know uhhuh like this let's reach the people up you know yeah you premiered on PornHub which is hilarious how did that come about um I reached I uh what happened was my my people were just kind of like you know like let's find a place to Premiere you know they always do this thing where like you can Premiere a video on like I don't know we'll be an example like AV club or some you know and and we're rolling stone or something I go give me those numbers you know it's like so and so gets 50,000 I go what about look up pornhub's numbers it was like 200 something million I think one of the I think Rolling Stone was something like the 8,000th or something biggest website and I go check out what PornHub is and PornHub is like number 19 in the world and I go well I go I go let's just reach out to him and see if they'll Premiere be the first guy to Premier country

55:04music video on PornHub the problem is when people go to Pornhub they're sweaty and nervous and they're just thinking about beating off well so you get in the wrong mindset well I think I think after you beat off you you're ready to chill out and listen to some good country yeah but you're also ready to hide what website you were watching your browser and erasing your history it worked man I mean everyone I've see I saw a lot of people you know like uh I don't know how many people I could tell you that came up to me like I first heard about you CU they don't want to admit it you know right but the numbers show that people it was crazy cuz we we premiered it on PornHub and they're like it was almost like you know if you guys do this for me I'll show that you know it works and sell you can sell things besides boner pills you know right well it's also it's one

55:50of the things that if you did it just knowing that you did it people would go there to check it out like he's he's premiered to on PornHub ah people go there to check it out and it's funny cuz I we put it up like you know noon or something and I was like I thought it was like hundreds of millions the views aren't that high and someone there was like wait till 5:00 when people get off work and start beating off yeah I was like at 5:00 the numbers just shot through the roof it's like once that work bell rang it's like they were yeah people get in trouble for beating off at work right you can get fired yeah it's a bummer I wish there was like a a there's no country music section of PornHub yeah you think there would be there would just be the wheeler Walker section I'm thinking is I I I I got to figure out how to cuz I set up my own channel to um PR to Prem that video and

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56:39I got to figure out how to turn it off I get alerts on my phone every two minutes so and so clicked like on your PornHub video or so and so like from like left a comment on your PornHub videos like I got to get that off it's all day it's like I wake up in the middle of the night to like a Buzz yeah your phone's just look at and it's just and it's it's like um you know Trump jiz 44 digs your your uh your new your new song did you ever look at some of the comments on on porn website videos when they start rating videos and describing I no I that's how I know what to watch yeah yeah well the star system is pretty good but when you get to the actual words you start feeling real uncomfortable what were you expecting yeah yeah I didn't like how she winced when it went in her ass huh Jesus yeah like sometimes you'll go on there and and you'll see the first thing just like don't watch this one

57:31finish he he finishes Insider you can't see like thanks for the heads up you know Jesus Christ people get mad they think it's fake it's fake coming like what it's weird yeah I believe in fake news I don't believe in fake come uh there's definitely fake come I've seen it I've seen fake dicks actually I've seen one he always has sex with his pants on because he's got a big fake rubber dick and uh it it has a button in it where he could jizz and he presses the button and it comes out it looks like um what's that Cetaphil that the face lotion that people use CLE what's that Cil no no no that's for zits Cetaphil like that face soap it's kind of like looking I saw one of those too and then right before he jizz it was like a a hard cut like you could see like you could tell that they filled up the the fake dick machine they Pump It Up get it to the to the top I wish I

58:27could sit here honestly say I didn't jack off to that one but wow now um do you think you're going to have more songs that come out on PornHub or is that a one-time thing um what about youu jiz you ever thought about going to one of the other comp competitors websites might off better deal you know some company called perv City gave me a get a free membership perv City yeah I never even heard of them but they're looking to get through your webcam that's what they're looking to do I think they were looking for me to mention it on your show and I just fell you did it you I didn't mean to sorry godamn it um but they got their money's worth I guess but yeah I think if I could do only porn I mean CMT ain't going to play it so now they won't even play one of your clean songs how many clean songs do you have like we no swearing zero I'm just I'm I'm rounding off there

59:14but yeah would you uh H you know what's weird too is um so I got one of my new Tunes it's it's definitely an American thing cuz I just uh the the CMT of Australia whatever it is my Al my one of my new songs from the new record is like in heavy rotation there and I sing about you know a stretched out and in it wow and they play in regular rotation I guess they're just Australia they don't give a they don't give a in Australia they're Savages those people they they're the descendants of prisoners and they're just Freer over there and they got I didn't even send them the video I think they took took it off YouTube and just put it on TV no they're they're pretty badass in Australia legalized prostitution really oh yeah they wanted me to come over and do some shows and I'm like that's a long you know long trip but you would sell out over there but here's the thing

60:05that weed's illegal there like so backwards you can sing about a stretched out on TV and weed's illegal crazy legalized prostitution no weed not how soon do you think because I keep looking at the I think weed's going to change big Kentucky you know my home state is the place where I think it'll be the most cu I know a lot of tobacco farmer friends of mine whose families are in the tobacco farming business which is like they they need that right now yeah they would make they they could get their business back and I don't know why it's not legal there yet it's renewable it's very easy it doesn't require much in terms of like resources it's uh less pervious and I and and I'm seeing I'm seeing the tide change every time I go home you see more and more you know legalize you know from like more more businessmen and in town you know yeah cuz it would really help the econ

60:55well it's also people realize it's stupid it's stupid just like making whiskey illegal is stupid it was dumb they figured that out in the 1920s and the fact that here we are in 2017 and they haven't completely embraced it that's one of the things that pissed me off about this Jeff sessions guy like what a giant step backwards that is coming back with wanting to bring back just say no and marijuana users aren't good people it was basically what's the what's that crazy movie it was basically idiocracy now what's the crazy weed movie from the like oh yeah reer madness reer madness he was like acting like that it's like he's just a guy who doesn't smoke pot and probably never has and doesn't even know what it does his idea of it is like people doing meth or sniffing glue or something he doesn't know what he's talking about yeah it's it's it pisses me off too it's just like um well

61:41it's also there's a lot of money involved I mean these guys are all you got to you got to pay attention to like who's buttering their bread and there's a lot of people that have a very strict agenda and if you go out there and start talking about look that's one of the things that pissed me off about Hillary Clint Clinton more than anything she gave some sort of a speech and in that speech she said that she was absolutely in every sense of the word against marijuana legalization well you old lady well she also said she also said she was against she wanted flag burning to be illegal right she was also against gay marriage until 2007 or 2013 they people forget things about her they just wanted well they just think when you just say the word Democrat that you're like you believe in all these things they're strategic their their opinions aren't real their opinions are their strategic

62:26sort of uh conglomeration of ideas that they think are going to serve them well when they go out in public that's that's what their opinion they forget that it's 2017 and everything there's a record of everything I mean I was getting pissed cuz there were a couple weed companies who wanted to sponsor some of my my tour but it's too complicated right now cuz on different states like it would could be like I could get arrested in certain States just for just for advertising advertising it which is crazy like so I couldn't put it on a tour bus or anything so there's no way to really do it right now yeah and you also become a Target in the states where it's very illegal where where cops have been arresting people for a long time you've got them trained to arrest people then all a sudden you tell them they can't and they're like what well it's IL it's legal now like what that like

63:08there's guys that still want to arrest people out here out here I mean there's there's still arrests that are taking place uh in in other states but it's so DC for for instance Washington DC marijuana's legal people are still getting arrested for it yeah they don't they don't spread that around H cuz I didn't even know that black people it's not white people getting arrested for it it's black people black Twitter yeah well they you know it's it's a reason that they can arrest you they could find a reason to arrest you and look there's a lot of gross that goes along with law enforcement but one of the grossest ones is these people have requirements for how many people they're supposed to arrest they have quotas they're supposed to be making for how many people they pull off pull over how many tickets they write you know there's it's been the wrong time yeah yeah

63:54you're the wrong guy at the wrong time or you know the cop just decides he's going to arrest you for it because it's federally illegal and he just makes a call I don't know it's not good yeah I mean if it's up that you could you know I could have a tour bus with like you know you know bourbon on the side and go across the country and back and that's fine but which you can advertise on the road where it can kill people yeah my friend uh Ron White he runs around in a giant truck that has his um uh number one to te on it he's got a huge bus huge ass tour bus which says number one tequila on the side for the bus yeah they pay probably pay him good money and I was all Psych it's his it's his company okay yeah I was excited about some marijuana money like let's help me out get a nice bus yeah people have asked me to partner up with them or to get involved and I'm like it ain't the time

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64:45yet yeah it's you're I agree you'd be you'd be Target number one it's just not doesn't it's it's worth it financially but it's not worth it in terms of like the the mental mortgage that you have to pay to be involved with something that's semal I've always wondered about that like I always wondered like you know like Snoop dogs on tour if you see see Snoop Dog's bus why wouldn't the cop they do they do all the time oh he's been pulled over before he's been arrested before yeah makes it's it's weird to just be that adamant about it you know dude they went after Willie Nelson yeah you don't go after Willie Nelson here's the thing though like if you're if you're a stoner an unknown Stoner all you have to do is just know somebody in a town like you don't have to travel with it like traveling with is stupid like people that get busted with weed like don't you

65:27know there's weed where you're going yeah but yeah I don't think I've gotten off stage once and there hasn't been a joint ready for me for some dude I've never even met yeah there's always something but the thing is do you smoke that weed um I usually do but I would say don't do it every couple every once in a while I'll smoke it and later that night I'm like something don't feel right you know be careful people are get they're going hardcore people are going hardcore some dude was telling me about this spray that he invented that's an acid spray it's LSD in spray form and he goes just is many pumps as you take off of this spray is uh how deep you go into Alice's Rabbit Hole like what Jesus Christ did you see that there's a new documentary out that's actually scar just talking to him there's a documentary out that's pretty good I don't actually like I'm not a big

66:17grateful of it fan but there's a documentary out now about them that was like it's pretty crazy watching them in the old days I like the Grateful Jed dead Jean I'm with you like I I watched this to try to get into it but it was the the acid tests they were doing back then were crazy they would they would dose the record company dudes yeah well people just dosed people back then which is one of the things I think we're seeing that's a dick move well I think it's one of the things we're seeing with this Bill Cosby thing I think people had a different opinion about dosing people I think Bill Cosby was amongst a group of many people that were dosing people back then I think it was super thing I think it was super common cuz they joked around about it you know Bill Cosby had a whole routine about giving people Spanish Fly and he's joked around about about dosing

67:05people what was the TV show he did he did a routine on someone's late night talk show oh I saw that it was Larry King dude it's dark and he talks about Spanish he talks about Spanish flying even Larry King started laughing as I would have CU I would have thought he was around right you would have thought he was joking around and then when you find out I just think all those old dudes that used to go to the Playboy Mansion hook up and you know meet all these young ladies we're very happy to see them and all I think they were dosen people 60s and the say that to girls when I take them out and if if I go to the bar and get a drink and I'll come back with two drinks it's like how do you usually do this cuz I'm cool but like how do you know you know right how do you know oh yeah you know you shouldn't be drinking this you know yeah I well I won't take a drink if I don't

67:47know who it is and someone just hands it to me out of nowhere yeah you know that happens a lot too they'll put shots on the stage yeah and and then they'll call me a for not drinking like I ain't drinking I don't know you yeah I know people I know people personally that have been drugged I know I know several people that have been drugged it's not uncommon at all hunt for tattooed woman who drugged and robbed two wealthy men of $200,000 worth of cash and watches after targeting them at exclusive Hollywood nightclub wow the woman 20 met two men at a Hollywood nightclub on March 5th she went with them to an apartment in Studio City made them drinks men say they passed out W woke up hours later but she had gone they claimed $200,000 wor of watches cash jewelry or awesome first of all these guys are they have $200,000 worth of cash and watches and they live in an apartment in Studio City

68:39shut up what you guys were doing you were pimping on a budget right I know what you're doing and you you just you you dragged in the wrong cat you up you up you got lucky you're lucky you're alive you're lucky you didn't wake up in a bathtub filled with ice with big incision Mark where your liver used to be and you're lucky that you made it that long didn't happened the first week you tried that dumb asses you got get tricked by a 20-year-old you rookies I might want to it's almost like it's almost like you almost want to like you mean it's it ain't cool but like you totally see where she's coming from it's just like yeah these assh dopes you know well they might have been too they might have been like real gross to her and she might have been like I'm F to get paid just Rob these dummies 200 yeah I mean do sound like it was too tough for her either something about drugging

69:28people man like it's is a very dark dark thing to do though honestly all jokes aside it's pretty evil yeah put something in their drink and watch it affect them like a lab rat like you know they don't even know what you did I know people that's happened to like I want to maybe not even high school or even Junior High and they still are still aren't over it you know oh yeah for sure you up for Life rape yeah you get raped but I'm saying even like if you are like an in nth grade and someone dosed you and you had like the worst day of of your of your life want to hear something crazy my um my uncle uh in Nashville was a a med student uh back in the 50s and he um they came Professor comes into class one day and he goes uh so here's the assignment for today there's this new thing that government's testing out called like surgic acid we don't really know what it does so go here's your

70:20assignment well I'm going to split you up into groups of two one of you takes this and the other one has to do a report on how he reacts to it you want some weed no I'm good um I got a show T night man um you do your show sober I do my show I drink a little bit but I can't do if I get stoned I forget all the lyrics really cuz I forget who's who and who's whacking who off you know it's like all specifics you know it's very critical yeah it's like I need to know that Rita's blowing this dude I get it it's all the names you don't have to explain to me you've been there but yeah and they it actually actually led to the lawsuit about um what how when you weren't allowed that you weren't allowed to uh you know test drugs on students oh yeah well you know they did that to um the inst the unibomber the unibomber Ted kazinski was a part of the Harvard LSD experiments no way I didn't know that

71:15yeah doing what dosing him up they doed the out of that dude cuz then they originally think it was some kind of true serum maybe they didn't know what it was so they we're trying to figure out well Well Albert Hoffman figured it out right he he accidentally discovered it I think he was coming up with a drug to induce labor I think that was the original premise behind creating LSD and he got some of it in his hands and then on his drive home through absorption through the skin he was tripping his balls off riding his bike that's the whole story behind the understanding of LSD as a psychoactive substance in human beings so they started doing all sorts of studies there's some videos from the I believe it was the British army they dosed their their soldiers up and they filmed them they're running around laughing and giggling and they can't do anything it's like a black and

72:05white footage from I want to say like the 50s yeah there was a lot of that crazy footage in that that CU I don't think it I mean it's hard to say cuz it's obviously influenced a lot of great music but oh yeah also they were like these guys were so taking so much acid there was a part in the movie where the the drummer for The Grateful was telling the record company guy he goes I always love these like kind of drugged out hippie stories this guy goes he goes we want to take a microphone and we want to record the smog andol we want to go out to the desert where there's clean air and record clean air and put the two sounds together that's our that'll be a rhythm track that's a lot of acid man to take and they want that to be the drum track and the guy some guy waren Brothers records in the suits like what the are you talking about yeah that's that dead Gene I don't have that Gene I feel

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72:51like if you could play the dead to like a young fan of rap music that like never never heard the dead like a young black dude just like sit him down and like tell me what you think about this they'd be like what the is this that's how I feel I just don't get it it just it sounds to me like again like a bunch of drugged out hippies just noodling around but I think when you're on acid at the show it's amazing I've heard people say that I was never a fan of the Grateful Dead until I saw them when when I was on acid I'm more than willing to agree to that because there's some songs that I've heard when I was tripping that like you go oh now I understand I remember the first time I got Stone her Black Sabbath I I remember saying to my friend like are there people who listen to this without being stoned like what does it sound like if you're like what's the point what's the point of Black

73:42Sabbath if you're not stoned doesn't even make sense to me yeah but Black Sabbath to me I could still listen to even not Stone they've got some great jams but just there's something about the sort of hippie nature of the Grateful Dead people too I was always like well you're just running away from Life go get a job you stinky dirty Hipp but then my own cousin became a dead head for a while and she's cool she traveled with the dead for years and she was like one of those people that lived out of the back of a VW band they would they would go to the store and buy bacon and eggs and cooked them up for the people that were in the in the concert and then they would sell them and and that's how they got by they' sell bracelets and like she lived like that for man I want to say it was more than a year she traveled around with the Dead yeah I mean it was kind of cuz they they

74:25they had a big kind of country influence to what they did according to this documentary I'm like well I don't hear it you know it's like I love the idea that they were making kind of trippy kind of country but it's like that's not what I'm hearing in my ear yeah I get it I get it if you're into that music but I feel like it's like food you know there's certain people that I just like my friend Tom I have a friend natsuga Tommy herko hey Tommy shout out shout out to Tommy he's a a buddy of mine that um I've always been a fan of spicy food I can eat some spicy food I go deep but not nearly as deep as this there's some dudes that I think they they their taste buds are just wired different they can just take in a different level of spice than I can like I it must be affecting their body differently and I know for me like I have friends that don't like anything spicy at I don't like spicy

75:16at all yeah yeah they just just doesn't get to them to me I love it man I eat jalapenos pretty much every day of the week I'm always I put hot sauce on everything I'm putting a habanero sauce on everything but some people it just doesn't work with them the only thing I can I tried these shots of like super it was like there's some little shot you can take I thought I was coming down with something on the road once and they gave me this super something with like filled with vitamins and it had some kind of pepper in it that was supposed to help me oh okay like Cayenne yeah yeah and it hurt it hurt but it helped that definitely help yeah I wonder what the real science is behind cayenne pepper but they always like to add it to those wellness shots to make you feel like it's doing something gives you a little woo it opens up your snot start I think it's the way they Market

75:59it too yeah I mean you're you feel great right after you get the shot done cuz you're just you're just kind of like can't believe you got it down there was this place that we went to that doesn't exist anymore that was in incen it was called chili my soul and it was a chili place that had levels of chili like from mild all the way up to like I think I forget what their system was it was a x system or a number system I think it was a number system and I think the top was like 10 and one day I tried an eight and they would give you a sample and it was like the size of those you know those little uh paper cups that you get like at a hamburger joint you're supposed to fill up with ketchup like it was that small a tiny little thimble full of I was like this is so little they're like just try it just try for a sample and I put that tiny spoon in like an ice cream spoon like a sample spoon I

76:45put it on my tongue and I just started sneezing and hiccuping out of control snot was pouring down my nose I couldn't believe how hot it was and that was just an eight I remember thinking I had one of those not probably not that hot but I remember thinking like I'm never gonna recover like my mouth was burning and then I remember sitting on the toilet just like I was like it's like I was apologizing to my for what i' done to it it's like you know it was like it was just a attack man that's what I worried about especially on the road like you know I could see how like you know like a big band go eat the wrong thing get up there and your pants oh for sure there's also something about really spicy food that makes your just want to get out of your body immediately oh no yeah it was too it was like if if someone had been in that stall at that restaurant that in this particular case

77:29I'm talking about yeah I it would have I would have tored through my you know I would I would have I was going to no matter what you in the sink or the the garbage can would which way would you go honestly I think at that point I would have just probably just your pants no I would have Tak I didn't I probably wouldn't have want to ruin my pants I probably would have just pulled him down just like on the bathroom floor I'll bet you think it's hard to it's hard to know I mean what's the move though if you want to be like I bet there would be a lot of arguments I probably would have gone to the urinal really in the urinal that's rough well if someone's got to clean that yeah would you offer to clean it no but I wouldn't I wouldn't I don't think I would have um you know it wouldn't have been too nice to do it on the floor either it's one of the rare things

78:13about going to a public place like a restaurant or something like that you're not I give you all over the place you they don't go hey man you got to clean that you're like no I don't it funny before I ever hit the road I was talking to some other is that weird yeah some some some other musicians they were just like the main thing about the road is and you maybe know is like find a good place to it's all about finding a good place to and I'm like I put my heart and soul under these records like there's got to be more to it than that you know deing with support people they've already given up those dud they giving up on their dreams to play drums on the road yeah exactly but they're just talking about how like you know taking comfortable if you're in this town there's this one restaurant that doesn't let that doesn't check you make sure you're eating there like you

78:51what there's like a there's like a there's like a you know they're giving me the toilet tour of America I'm like you know if that's my biggest problem it'll be fine there's something about in a bass a bathroom in a gas station that's actually kind of satisfying it's like yeah it's disgusting but you're not going to ruin it you take a terrible dump in that bathroom you're just like this is what I'm here for or a park when you go to a park and they have those stainless steel toilets that don't even have a lid and you just sit down on it wof and you got to wipe all the piss off of it first before you sit down yeah those rest those rest up bathrooms are pretty nice yeah I've messed some of those up myself yeah you can mess them up it's a weird thing that that's where dudes chose to go to get together when uh they were gay and in hiding like throughout the 50s

79:35and the 60s and the 70s that was like the thing you know they would go to get rest STS that was like a it was a hacky joke in the early days of standup comedy sounds like I I got a new song yeah guys meeting at I I should sell my album at rest stops you probably sell some for sure truckers are one of the few people that definitely still have cd players oh yeah um they probably have VHS still I got a lot of I definitely have a lot of trucker fan you know I meet people after the shows like you know I drove 36 hours or whatever you know see yeah we do too shout out to the truckers yeah there's a lot of people out there just I mean if you're stuck in a truck for 12 hours you need some goddamn content totally I mean I don't know how you do it without like I think some of those guys don't know technology that well but without having access to podcasts or Spotify that how' you

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80:25those guys you'd be amazed I think truck drivers are more in tune with that kind of Technology like entertainment technology that they can take in while they're driving than anybody what is that Jamie it's the luxury sleeper cab for a Long Haul truck oh wow it's a goddamn apartment that's what see that's what I need to get that's that big yeah look at that that's like a camper holy well that's cool for him man so he just goes back there when he's done oh there's the thing goes got a coffee machine there and I can live in that yeah one of my buddies got one of those with a shower in it too got a magazine thing but you know still the rule you can't in it no matter what yeah you're not supposed to in those things however nice it is well people do it though they wreck those things yeah yeah there's um there's I mean still it's a sucky job for those poor bastards and they get all they all

81:12get up backs you're sitting in that uh chair all day they need to get these ergonomic chairs for driving a car that's what they need right H figure that out hey Ergo Depot I got a task for you how about you guys figure out replacement car seats does that make sense yeah it does you could sit in this sit in this and driving cars it keep you straight out yeah I bet there's tons of like cushions and weird you can buy for yeah there are they say the lumbar thing is the big one because it makes your it forces your body to stay straight instead of that like hump thing yeah I was going to say there's probably uncomfortable that's probably good for you that makes your back yeah yeah you're supposed to sit like this you're supposed to sit straight up that's why they say like those um balance balls are really good like sitting on balance balls are good because you kind of have

81:58to sit up straight yeah a lot of guitarists have a lot of back problems because you know you put it on it and it's and it's not really that heavy but just a little bit of weight every night of your life you know after 30 years it'll start to get to you a little bit that makes sense that makes sense I the exact same place yeah I feel like people that wear backpacks probably the same thing right pulling on you just slowly but surely like women with purses they say women with big tits you wouldn't think that tits would your back up oh lot yeah happens a lot I know people who had breast um reductions because it's helped their back oh I knew a girl had one and that's another thing too like when you I thre a funeral what's that I thre a funeral for her old tits did you no I was I was definitely bummed but um but for her she's like probably like God damn it yeah it was

82:43was it was always she was one of those girls was always like a pain in the ass like I got these giant things giant jugs yeah yeah it's probably annoying as hell I get it imagine if your dick was so heavy it like hurt what do you mean what do you mean imagine I mean imagine is your dick that heavy no way no I was going to try like the sergal thing I was like the old one I'm going to try start a rumor here that my dick's too heavy I and I got to be rolled around wheelchair to my shows they well who was the guy that they said had the giant hog Milton Burl they would say Milton bro would just whip his hog out just to settle everybody the down that'll do it be talking a bunch of Milton B go just let me show you something here shut the up just yeah who's got the biggest pulled his hog out like how big how big would you I mean what are we talking here 10in limp Jesus Christ monster hog

83:35fat can you even get erected if you're 10-inch limp yes he could Milton Burl could that's like elephant yeah Milton Burl on the rumors of his endowment let's hear this on By Word of Mouth you never know how much truth there is to any of them so just once it's like the come record Milton is it true are you talking about my endowment yes endowments is it true all I can say is that I'm still working on it the does that mean no that's been thrown at me so many times that question I don't know what's so thrilling about is it true I really don't know I you know I'm not the only man in the world there are better men than me of course you'll have to show them to me no I've had a little success with it even recently at 88 so it seems quite true all I know that when I get an erection I black out I bet that's I I really do hope that he was getting late at 88 they say that I had a friend and um

85:19one of her friends worked at a nursing home home and she was saying that they just like cats and dogs in that place I believe it yeah old dudes get a hold of Viagra and they don't give a and they're it's like a dormatory it's like they don't have any responsibilities because look probably Chang their whole oh yeah change the game but here's the thing when you think about people in nursing homes right essentially no one can take you in right you have to be in a nursing home cuz your family can't handle you anymore or it's just you need assistance so as soon as you start getting assistance right you get Assisted Living it's not good but it's also you have less responsibility less things to think about less things to worry about you're in this Assisted Living place and you're with a bunch of other chicks that are just like you in the same boat like come

86:05on girls and it's not like you get to a certain age you just get tired of dick right they probably still want some dick and they probably remember 20 30 years ago when they were young and hot and the guys can kind of remember it too and they're like let's just just do this what else are they going to do play Bingo but also yeah their nephew coming by with chocolates you much rather have a dick than you know yeah probably someone's coming by trying to change the will get them to sign some it's probably gross imagine talking to your relatives you know they're trying to weasel you out of money just wait yeah we got an ant like that in Nashville right now where it just feels like everyone's stopping by just to hope to get into you know can I have your apartment when you're gone oh dude it happens I know a family where the son tried to get the mom to change

86:50the will and the other son found found out about it and they started suing each other and Christ over your mom's money like really that's but it's real common yeah it's it's crazy everybody thinks they're right you know so oh I helped her I have a right to this and everybody gets real weird Uncle Mike said that I always like it when they have those Wheels where the guy you know they those really rich guys and all a sudden they'll be like a mystery like 5 million to some girl who like they never knew you know there's some there's some who he used to work for like 20 years ago that he stuck it in there yeah he's throwing dick at her for years nobody knew that would be the best relationship if you had like a secretary could keep her mouth shut you guys just both smashed it and you could say I'll leave you something in the will you ain't got to pay her then yeah yeah oh is that what

87:38it is pay or maybe she liked the dick as a gift yeah I mean saying like it be a nice thing to I'm going to start telling women that do you leave some some money in the wheel you you get my last album broke even you can have half of it but with your Reckless life lifestyle don't you think that they would be worried that you would die penniless cuz you're so impulsive and well I'm going to be penniless soon if these uh if these things don't turn around but yeah did your record really just break even as many as you sold yeah well I say that as a joke but not really a joke because what I did was I took all the money and put into the new record so in a weird way I've seen no money from it but I have touring money though but I have but I have Pro you know like I'm putting everything I have into the new band into the new record do you mind uh saying how many albums you sold I forget what it

88:25was I mean it's it was a crazy number for physical it was like over 50,000 physical copies which is that's very rare which seems rare which I to me didn't seem like very much but dude someone brought me in a CD just a few days ago and I was like look at this thing who was it oh it's uh Everlast he brought me in um warp porn but you could here's another thing can you read that you think you can read that bottom the white part what does that say infestation yeah exactly what says War porn yeah man you got to fix the font on that yeah that's what I've been saying and he's like no it's art man it's art I was like okay well art that people get to know what it's get out of here with yeah I had I've been having a lot of issues too I'm I'm pissed at Spotify right now why what are they doing here's my issue with Spotify is which is I don't know if you guys use Spotify

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89:19but almost everybody does and people don't know this I'm going to get the truth out which is those big giant numbers you see on the thing that people do people not like me and you but there these playlists that are huge like some people just go on Spotify they listen to like country hits you know right or country Wild Country I don't know why the and they refused to playlist me so everyone else's has these inflated numbers but they when I did your when I did your show the first time eating kicking ass became the number one I don't if you knew I probably said s to send you that info became the they had the viral charts of what's going the actual with the actual listens the viral charts e kicking ass was the number one most viral song in the on the planet after I did your show I said well now can you put me on some of your like country playlists and and the guy

90:07who's the guy who runs uh the country playlist it's it's back to the meet the new boss same is the old boss yeah is a guy from country they guy they hired a guy from from terrestrial country radio who who designs those playlists and he won't put me on the playlist because I say dirty words oh so I'm losing tons of listeners and I can't get on the you know like when you see Florida Georgia Line with 100 million listens a lot of those are just from automatic listens just from those playlists and people don't know that we had an offer to do one of those was it Spotify or the other one probably Pandora or Spotify yeah they do podcast and but but I was like well what do you what you guys have an app you guys have money like what's going on with this like what is this like you guys are just Distributing content so you must be making some money they didn't want to pay you but it's

90:56very very very very very little it just doesn't make any sense that you would I'm one of the few guys who actually I actually make when they when it gets played I actually make decent money from Spotify because I don't do you don't want to say how much online um but I would but um because I own my own label most of those artists have to the label takes all their Spotify money but what's confusing to me is like what's the benefit other than like being introduced to stuff that you never would have heard of before like the benefit of Spotify is the same benefit you would get from Radio except it's streaming except it's in real time right yeah I mean that benef that's why to the benefit to me is to listen to what oh I'm on the road oh I haven't listened to this Zeppelin album in a long time and then you have it but so like you can make a Spotify playlist and people can listen to your

91:38playlist is that the is that the case correct you could make one and everyone could listen to like the updated one you share like Diplo is a popular producer and he has an updated hip-hop list he makes he updates it every few days but there's there's those official Spotify ones separate from Spotify official playlist it's just when you search for him and follow a influencer you like so if I started a playlist I could put your song on my playlist be on and then it would be on yeah but the people for some reason they go it's they own the interface so they make it so their official ones are the big ones on the page right so you just you want to hear the country hits like this this album's going to be in the top 10 they won't play it so I'm and I'm not saying I'm banned but you know if they going to put me on the playlist and I'm I'm at a disadv like who the cares

92:26about I mean is it that big a deal to say they pay you so they do pay you when it goes on you actually make like you get checks when when I get when when my when people listen I get I get paid yeah see this um I don't I just don't think when I there's a band of like a year they you can't do this now but they gamed the system and they made an album that was silence and told their fans to stream it all night long and so they made a bunch of money just off of the the streams being played of silence for like eight hours night how could you do that they but there was no way they didn't have any writing to stop someone from doing that from upload they stop it now yeah you can't do that now yeah that's hilarious but there is someone up I saw the other day you can someone upload like eight hours of rain so list yeah but someone's going to get paid for that that rain track someone owns that

93:14recording of rain yeah you got to make sure it's you didn't steal it from YouTube or something guess well also someone had to actually be up for8 hours recording deserve a little bit of money yeah there's a lot of people yeah do that to tell their fans you know listen to this song just put on repeat or whatever that seems ridiculous that's a silly request and you you it's it's unfair you like like hey make me some money they used to do it back in the day call your radio station and request my song on the radio make sure you requesting a song and you want to hear it that's saying you want to hear it saying stream my rain 24 hours a day but yeah these playlists you know it's almost back it's Peola again it's like there's one guy who's controlling basically all the radio yeah it's like this one dude is just doing it it's just like if you're his buddy you know well

93:59any of those things it's like whether it's Pandora or whether it's uh Spotify or anything what you're doing is you're selling or Distributing other people's work so you're basically just a distribution center I mean that's all it is other than like the unique features of the distribution oh but you can make playlists or oh you can do this and people can recommend things to you oh there's algorithms and if they could find out what you like and then you go seek out those things but at the end of the day if there's no things to seek out you don't really sell anything like that's like the like the YouTube you know people suing them like YouTube isn't anything people it's just a player but YouTube has bandwidth and the bandwidth is extremely expensive it's a different animal because you're you're talking about they they're not just streaming something they're streaming

94:48video video is you know mean God what what kind of and they have to be able to store it when they upload it I mean what kind of storage is YouTube where is it all stored it's your mom's house upper upper what is it different than like a museum like uh maybe like YouTube where a museum is a building and they store a bunch of stuff that people come to look at and they have to make some sort of money to keep it running to keep people there I tried to make this argument the other day I was talking to someone about it is it the same or is it completely different uh um there's an argument that it's in the ballpark well the argument with like when YouTube originally sold for like billions right right at the time it was mainly just clips of other people's shows back in the old now they have original content now they have your like right people they pay people back but back when it

95:36was sold people made people made there were dudes who made hundreds of millions of dollars basically off stealing selling off you know clips of comedy content other music videos yeah that is an issue or was a giant issue with YouTube but they seem to have ironed out a lot of that like if we put up someone's content like if someone has a an like it happens a lot with me with animal attack videos like anytime an animal's attacking another animal or some nature video if you try to put that up on YouTube you will get flagged and pulled off immediately we got remember last time we got pull cuz for putting on my song and I was like I told the PE the distributor like I I give you permission it kept getting tagged or something right yeah when we had Everlast on when we're playing his War porn songs we had to make sure that we had Mission and they had released the flags on all these

96:24things for us before we ever did it we had to like coordinate well my my I get flagged uploading my own videos which is weird you know really I just they say do you own this but who owns it I own it you own all your stuff I'm not yeah I own you own your videos everything I own my masters yeah even eating and kicking ass the one that was on Comedy Central I own the song I don't own that video okay so when that video gets uploaded though like say if you took that video and you uploaded it onto your Channel channel would they flag it would Comedy Central flag it uh maybe but they they would they would that one other than that they would that one they would have a right to I think right but everything else like you know like like when that the guys we podcast people called they wanted to play a song from the new record on my on the podcast it's like the it's like an

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97:09intro music I'm like right I give you permission I own it right even if they come at you there's no suit lawsuit cuz so you don't have something like that where someone's looking for people that are uploading your stuff to YouTube or things along those lines I've actually like I was talking about those like like I I have had like YouTube Gamers who like want to like up can we can I upload your video to my channel always be like yeah sure right but that's not what I'm talking about I'm talking about like somebody just creates a channel just starts uploading your content which happens all the time oh yeah I've seen it around a lot but you know um but you don't have anybody that flags that for you I think it's a good question I think that there's a there's a um algorithm on YouTube that catches it that because you know my my my mar my distribution goes through this

97:57Distribution Company right and I think they have someone on their team who does like who FL you know like I don't know how they know it but there's definitely there's some kind of algorithm you know like you said when you put it in it hears that Everlast song you know and I think there's someone that does flag it for me but again I I don't know I think we're finding out too I don't know where the my money's going you know do some sort of a uh online video series like where you're uh giving people like access to you getting on the tour bus traveling going different places cuz you know you're doing this podcast now I think that would that would sort of complement that really well yeah that'd be good too well hopefully you know the the The Thing Rick was shooting that'll if that's around enough we'll show enough behind the you know that' be a a bigger uh version of something like

98:48that yeah no definitely and yeah if you start doing it from showtime and then take it to YouTube or or wherever and start streaming it on the road I think that's a great idea for you yeah it's it's been cool but it's weird too because you get back into the whole like you know that you know giving I'm giving my music you know the th this the TV thing is going to be for myself so how much do I sell myself the music you know it's like do I do I do I try to you know rip him off on the price of the music no cuz I want the thing to it's it's in a very weird area where people like try to talk you out and just like oh just give me the music right you know yeah like if you do a stand up special I'm sure there's they've had negotiations I'm not speaking for you but there's probably times where they're just like listen this this special is going to help you so take less

99:38money here you do that it's like it's almost like they're doing you a favor kind of which I don't you know I don't they can do stuff like that they can say me you know if they're right they're right if they're not they're not you know I mean if you're Chris Rock they're not right they have to pay Chris Rock it's good for them more than it's good for him well I'm saying like have you ever had any issues with like um telling well guess what your last couple been Netflix right my last one was Netflix my one before that was Comedy Central and like you want them to like Market it more have you ever had issues and they're just like you know no fortunately no Comedy Central was great n say the other thing too is you've got a bigger marketing Outlet than any of them so now I do yeah and Netflix doesn't really Market they put up a few Billboards and just leave it alone they

100:20like let people word of mouth but that's the thing like if someone puts out a comedy special you know like Ari shaffir's comedy special coming out July 18th he was just on here right yeah it was yesterday if he put something out comedy fans are just going to get the word out Word of Mouth you got to go check it out you got to listen to it I mean I found out about a lot of people's specials because that was the main thing with my records which was it it a lot of the which I really loved was that it was it was old school it was literally Word of Mouth it wasn't like I mean there wasn't memes until recently it wasn't memes or YouTube ads and all that it was just you got to hear this it was that's how I found out about it I found out about it from people sending sending it to me I already knew you were doing something but then people start just started sending me just

101:07randomly they didn't even know I knew you well I I think that it was yeah I think what what happened is just you know it's like they never heard country music used with this it's like dude you got to hear this he's talking you know like like hip hop guys in country and it's you know and they get all you got to make nowadays you just got to be so loud I guess is maybe What It Is Well it's hard to believe that you were the first guy that figured out sort of the Andrew Dice Clay approach to stand up comedy you know justar did I say comedy I'm sorry to country music a comedy sort of shock comedy like entrance into country music like I just like I say when people tell me that I'm just like all I did was not censor myself and have fun and and we the new album I think you can hear us having even more fun than the last one the last one I felt now listen it feels

101:58a little stiff almost like I was trying to figure out this one you can hear us having a blast it was like cuz country music is so serious and the people are so serious it's just like you know just let loose and have some fun yeah it's got to be so bizarre to see a room full of guys singing along to some of your lines then I sucked his dick and I kicked his ass suck a dick yeah well the new the we got a new song called Puss and Boots and one of the line is a a line about you know she her tongue her tongue knows where my butthole is at is in the chorus you know um and I'm seeing watching people scream that out you know it's like it's like I was around man you know like don't do that you know I want a girl on a cowboy hat her tongue knows where my butth holes at um that's a weird thing to hear back at you just as L yeah well it's weird when you were thinking like should I even put

102:53this in the song was weird just like this is a crazy thought what if I just go with it instead of trying to hold myself back which is all the best you know but obviously the impact has been tremendous I mean the results are amazing yeah I mean just the idea that we're playing the tubor tonight and it sold out a month ago is crazy yeah you're selling out way in advance and that's a big place well the tuor is like a a famous you know yeah you know a lot of horrible music got got there start there you know and just to for for me to go up there and sing about Puss and Boots you know is like to conquest yeah you conquered yeah put you you know I'll do a flag I'll put I'll do this the way I want to do it you guys well it's another era it's a another uh another representation of our era that this world is not what it used to be we're in a different place totally well

103:44that's why I kept bringing it back to this which is just like you can make whatever you want you don't have to censor yourself find the people who you know find the Rogan whoever in your world that you know get can get the word out bigger you know there's ways to make it ways to distribute it and ways to promote it without sucking some Network's dick you know and on that note ladies and gentlemen this shit's available right now go get you some old wheeler wheeler Walker tour the tour is available you can check it out on Instagram he's got a full picture of all the tour 712 starts out in Atlanta Georgia woo Charlotte North Carolina Virginia Beach he's traveling wheeler Walker Jr ladies and gentlemen thanks as always guys I love it here my pleasure brother always good talking to you uh we'll be back in just a few moments with Megan Phelps from the Westboro Baptist

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