Joey Diaz, Eddie Bravo, Brendan Schaub: Fight Recap

00:00four three two Uno yea live ladies and gentlemen Eddie Bravo Joey Diaz and Brandon sha we're here love you guys love you guys too happy New Year happy New Year year uh everybody who came to the show last night thanks for coming out sorry we couldn't stick around I had I've had a stomach bug since Thursday I was severely worried that I was going to myself during the show I was worried was going to myself during the UFC during the UFC I didn't eat all day and then right before I'm like God damn it I got to eat something yeah my stomach's been uh my kids had some sort of a bug some sort of a flu the whole house had it my wife had it my daughters had it and I didn't get it until I got to Vegas and on Vegas I worked out with Del grat Thursday and I was burping and farting I was like what is going on and in the middle of the night I woke up I was like oh this ain't

00:54good this is not good and then the next that couldn't eat anything couldn't hold anything down and right before the UFC I said I got to eat something so I had some quesadillas I just took a chance and I was like I might very well have to Sprint to the so I got through that yeah was during the UFC yeah I was severely worried I was going to have to myself but I pulled it out and then uh wrecked a bathroom afterwards just Dy you know that kind where you you smell it coming out of your body you're like what in the is in there and then the same thing yesterday couldn't eat all day before the show couldn't eat a goddamn thing and then right before we were in the dressing room I go I got to eat something I'm tired I feel kind of weak so I had some cheese and some meat so uh that's why I didn't stick around after the show ladies and gentlemen but if you came we had a good goddamn time I

01:41figured you got sick cuz you made like a a beer meat omelette or some it to your family if I got sick from that no they everybody got sick uh from school little kids man they just get sick there's a bunch of them together and they just somehow or another you ever think about that like who who's the first person who got VD that had to be one dirty that was number there has to be a patient zero snotty nose kid there's one person like VD right like that had to come from of an individual first right I mean it's some every cold has to come from somewhere apparently a lot of the colds we get come from uh agriculture that's why it's all like swine flu and like that I thought the white man brought it here to the Indians like hey how you doing H you and then they're just sick as and die dude we went over that the other day in a podcast 90% of all Native Americans were wiped out

02:32by diseases that they didn't have an immune system for when the Europeans came in the 1500s more wait didn't more of them get like actually killed like in battles no no no more of them died by disease believe it or not 90% of the population it's really crazy where' you get that from the library we're not doing that today Eddie Bravo we're not doing that we're not doing that today what figure library.com yo so uh UFC 207 that was one of the c one of the craziest events of all time and watching that main event was it was like that was it was surreal first of all was surreal cuz I was my body was all weirded out cuz I was I was a little out of it about to pass out but about to all over my chair but it was also was just Biz like that was the least competitive like Main Event other than Aldo and McGregor but that was one Dynamic shot to the chin that knocked him out like

03:36everything about that was off can can you n can you think about another Main Event Championship level where it was that kind of big of a discrepancy you know what I'm saying like it wasn't even a fight and and I think leading up to it there were some kind of red flags that you saw leading up to it if if you think back now that we she was in great shape though everybody said right physically physically physically she looked great but like was what kind of sparring was she doing you know one of the things I was thinking when she was hitting pads she was standing there hitting pads with Edmond I was like they're standing right in front of each other like she's not moving like she's just hitting pads PS are tough to tell though right because sometimes they're doing it for the camera if the countdown crew is there you don't want to show your new but also what did people think was

04:20going to happen like did you think this whole time when she was shooting these movies doing so Ed and her come up with a plan for her to stick on the outside jab and move that's not not that's not in her DNA anyway she had to close the distance and clinch you know that should have been the only plan the idea of standing with a manand nunz is just ridiculous the the difference in punching power is like literally double but we've seen her fight big punchers before who uh bch could hit pretty hard I'm not saying similar but no I'm saying what bch did she she was a has decent power and she's very aggressive she throws volume strikes but she throws their arms she doesn't hit nearly as hard as amandaa torqus her whole body in this I agree Joe I mean it's it's it's and B's arms are this long you know that's all fine in D goddamn telephone poles and that's all fine but don't you

05:10think the game plan should have been get her to the ground engage and she tried that a little bit she didn't shoot she was already lit up she wasn't there though mentally that that's what I'm saying there's there's things leaning up to it and I think the biggest red red flag for me and you know Dana better than anyone he's a promoter through and through one of the if not the best of all time I can't think another Don King I guess but still for him to say yeah you can skip all the media and just focus on the fight I was like God that just doesn't seem right man you know why she's managed by or she's handled by William Morris in her Endeavor WME yes WME owns UFC now I'm aware of that I'm sure that's what that's the only Reas said it was his decision it was his decision yeah he go he goes I'm the one who let we agreed to this it was in contract this one time thing I'm never

05:55doing again I thought godamn that is so she must have put it in the contract she must have said this is what I want to do I don't want to talk to any media I just want maybe that's not a red flag to you not if Connor did it I mean Conor doesn't have the choice Conor Conor did it but if Connor did it if Conor said all this media I'm going to Dublin I'm going to train he would never do that if he did I'd have zero problem is that not a red flag though to anyone involved at all J Dana to say all good don't do anything but here's the thing she goes out she goes out grabs a hold of man Nunes flips her on her head semi unconscious catches in an armar she's the new champ in 35 seconds you're not saying this I disagree no you wouldn't say there's a red flag if she went out and dominated and got an arm bar in the first round you would definitely not say that

06:39skipping the media is a red flag you're only saying it because this is like armchair quarterbacking it's not though cuz I said it was a red flag before this because so so so if she so if she did interviews afterwards let's say she went out there dominated her in a minute submitter then she interviews afterwards that's a little different you know what I'm saying cuz she's just saying I'm not doing any meting at all even post you're even Post Yeah well she doesn't want to talk after that I mean why would you want to talk the other thing and this the whole cell on this was she's serious now she's s oh my God she's focused knowing her she's serious now well the whole thing what the whole thing was like this big obvious marketing perspective like a promotional Hollywood perspective like they had the movie which is a really good like got you pumped up like that whole thing about

07:25her coming back and they lift up the garage door you see her working out really hard hard and it's they what they did is they created a great hype piece you know if you're in the Ronda Rousey business exactly Amanda is going what the exactly did you my the best was the best was there a picture promoting this UFC and it's a picture of Ronda her fight gear and a Ronda her Street close goes she's back 207 it's like man what about Amanda when I say in this crazy world of saw that picture who did that picture that an official UFC picture an official UFC kind of uh social media post wow it's crazy now what do you do it's also crazy because it's crazy for a marketing perspective I mean a lot of people thought that Ronda was going to win a lot of people I was 100% who the knows me too that's exactly how I felt when I was watching that fight play out I was like who the knows I mean you

08:16could see look Ronda looked like she was in amazing shape you think about the things that Rhonda's been able to do in the past to like Sarah McMahon you would think well maybe she ties her up in a clinch blasts her with a knee to the body flips her on her back and arm bars her who the knows if she gets you on the ground her armar technique is outstanding it's just some of the best if not the best I've ever seen inside the best that could have happened but it was so who the knows but the moment she got hit she's not moving her head at all she's standing straight up in the air and then I see her legs get close together and that's when you know someone's really hurt when someone gets lit up and then they start moving but their legs are too close together shit's not working right it's not like they they kind of know what to do but it's just not they're not their balance isn't

09:02good there's no head movement she was probably hurt with like the second or third punch that Amanda hit her with she was probably on queer Street that's what woke her up she didn't know where she was until she got hit Joe look at that when she got hit when you go oh oh she's hurt she's hurt look at her face her hands you even said it yourself she threw up a kick she threw some kicks to try to keep Amanda off I think she didn't realize I think when Amanda hits girls they just go holy yeah but what else would you what else would you expect in that you know what I'm saying like you you don't realize to get hit but you you hear all the criticism now of uh Edmund who's obviously a terrible coach but take that out of it if a if you bring a horse to water and they can't drink there's nothing else you can do so if mentally she doesn't want to be in there do you think wa you think she

09:47didn't want to be in there uh that it didn't look like the the same tenacity that we're used to see him she looked super tenacious until she got cracked Joe was 44 seconds tenci more than first jab she got hurt with a right hand maybe 10 15 we can watch the whole fight watch the whole fight it's 40 seconds go fight you could uh it's on YouTube already everywhere doesn't matter I mean you fa tough Fighters before like what do you think it is I don't understand why why you even saying this you see that she got hit and you see she got hurt and you've been hit and hurt before you know what happens you just don't know what the going on correct I think however I don't think that jab put her lights out it wasn't just a jab dude she hit her with a right first jab that landed first jab she went into distance the first jab landed but then she got hit with many punches I don't understand

10:35why you're confused as to the result I mean she got hit by the biggest power puncher in the 135lb division by far there's not a single girl in that division that punches like Amanda does I agree with that but not it wasn't a right hand right away yes it was it was a jab right away but a right hand right after that once once Ronda tried to close distance it was 40 seconds of Amanda punching Rhonda in the face until to it out like the idea that some something's confusing that she didn't look like she wanted to be there she was hurt multiple times in that in those exchanges I just don't I think we're doing a lot of armchair quarterbacking right who the knows what was going on in her head you're speculating whether or not she wanted to be there after she got hit the problem is she might have been just rocked and there's also the reality that she was knocked out cold a year ago and it was a

11:25bad beating and then a vicious head kick and there is something about those goddamn neck kicks man there's something about when when someone shins you in the neck like she got shinned and your whole body just goes limp you're doing so much damage in there but she had 411 days off that's nice I think it was just bad strategy just really simple was just the strategy was not good was just better that's possible too all those things look I was the one who said like way early on I think Amanda is her most dangerous challenge cuz Amanda hits so hard after she starts Sarah McMahon and uh when when she when she was beating up Misha I was like Jesus Christ she punches harder than anybody in that division she's got like dangerous weapons with her hands but I think I really think there's a lot of people that get koed like that and they are never the same again agre they can't

12:13absorb a shot anymore and then also your brain according to Chuck Lidell he was telling me about it like because he you know Chuck was so tough that he would like just use his chin sort of like liner does like it's part of his defense like knowing that he can absorb shots and after while his brain was like hey man you like his brain was just like we're not going to do this CU your yeah just shuts off early protect you there's a certain level where they're where they're that great and you look at like a Tiger Woods or Mike Tyson when that Foundation gets a little shaky they're just never the same yeah that's true it's just never they're like I'm not God's gift to the UFC exactly no the MMA gods don't give a exactly and then like we said even if she was undefeated and she s fought Nuna Nuna is gonna give her problems because if you watch like the Misha Tate fight Misha

12:59Tate like even though she beat Mesa Tate twice Misha Tate gave her a hard time there's some good scrambles mesha Tate hit her with some punches if Amanda hits you with punches like that you're you can't make mistakes you're in trouble yeah she's like a like in a lot of ways she's like a female Rumble in that she might not be able to close his show with one shot like Rumble Ken but if you make mistakes you get stung so bad and you see it with the Sarah McMahon fight's a perfect example she cracks Sarah with her right hand you see her her whole face is like what the like nobody hits them like that nobody and she's long Amanda catches you on the end of those punches too she she's great at distance I also think that the game's evolving so fast yeah where Amanda all she cares about is being champ all she does is train that's the only thing she gives a about I think we saw the

13:50same thing in the Dominic Cru uh Cody garban fight all Cody wants to do is be champ Dominic's doing analyst work he is for the so I I think there's there's this kind of change of hands right now where you're seeing these guys who are they're all in and that's what you have to do to be in this game this day and age guys are too good they're too good now I think you're dead right I think you're dead right about that here we go we'll watch the whole thing live now give us some volume young Jamie so here it is so that jab landed with five seconds at this jab right there watch this she's St her right there see 1 2 two yeah see so she's stung 10 seconds in we're at 443 we're 15 seconds in and she's already right there she's right there she's that was a super hard right hand and this is bad this is real B watch it's real hard to watch hard to watch boom to the body too

14:40she ripped that shot to the body so like the idea that she didn't want to be there 10 seconds into the fight she didn't know what the was going oh that left took with the right hand and then that right hand behind it this is horrific man it's tough to watch boom boom boom God damn good stopage by herb great stoppage but godamn Amanda Nunes is good she put a finger up to her mouth walked right up to Edmund looked at him went so gangster so Ronda is still standing you know she got heart she's in another dimension there's no doubt about she's got hard she know about she's tough and also she's got that thick Old Neck that helps look how long Amanda's arms are she's great at uh keeping distance and not crowding herself well Amanda has a wide shoulders and that helps too and then long arms as well and she's got awesome distance man her her ability to catch

15:32you at the very end of the punches where all the power is cuz if you're punching someone and you want to hit them here but they just move forward a foot you lo you lose like 90% of your power do you think Amanda can fight guys at 135 well bad guys you know no not like super high level guys like she's not going to beat TJ Dillashaw you what about top 10 no it's changed now man people I think if you asked me that same question three or four years ago I'd have a different answer but like that division is so stacked now it's like one when 135 first opened up it was in the UFC was there wasn't as many guys that were that Elite you know there's like even watch the guys who were really good improve like you saw the Cody fight where he was fantastic against D but how goddamn good did TJ look against liner completely nullified liner nullified him liner he's like one of the best examples

16:30of a guy with absolutely freakish physical attributes a Iron Jaw Iron Jaw I've never even seen the guy get hurt he gets hit by everybody he gets head kicked he gets punched Rob font said he hit him with the hardest punch he ever hit anybody with in his life and he goes he didn't even acknowledge that he hit him he just walked right forward he and he hit him with a body shot felt like he got hit by a car he didn't look like that that liner I don't think that same liner showed up on Saturday or Friday night T nullified him he didn't have a chance he did but liner was very hesitant and I think because of TJ's the way he was fighting him with the faints the takedowns the kicks and and throwing that that head kick to the body kick but he was very tentative super he got he got outbeat he threw him in the truck almost had him in a capser I thought he was going to go for the Twister damn I

17:14was like oh my God if he goes to the Twister but he got went for the calf slicer but I'm like I looked at up like he's not going to attap to that it's just pain he needed a stomp he needed a stomp down he stomp TJ looked amazing amazing yeah and the timing and those takedowns like lightning bolts like looks like he's throwing a punch and he's underneath you just it was so nasty he's so fast man but God damn Cody gar what the godamn and I'll admit I I said I think Cod is gonna be champed just not just not yet he's gonna be your champ but he's not ready for Dom yet then I open him round I was like what the he's he's mimicking he's doing break dancing he's doing push-ups and he he with Dominic's head and that was one of the things I was thinking of like this kid's been in a lot of street fights like I don't know if this trash talk is going to to work on him the way it works on other guys

18:01like he said he was fine in there like I asked somebody he like I like that he goes I feel calm he goes I know I can stay calm when that's going on and and I think he's just like this young hungry dude who he took it personal and a lot of guys get real emotional and I was worried that Cody come out super emotional and just get merked like taken down just you know the real emotional like a Alo did against McGregor which just forgets about his technique and rushes and gets merked but dude he just took all that and the best performance I mean can you name another performance like that where a guy he remember he was even number one Contender he's five or six in the world he was eight was he eight I thought he moved to six maybe that might have been some Shenanigans yeah right who knows of the Cheeto finger rankings but still went from five six ranked number one

18:49like God that's a big stret beat him handily it wasn't a CL won one round yeah and and I love Dy W one round and Cody dropped him heard him we we don't we still don't exactly know where the cut came from some people are saying he came from a punch I heard people online say it came from a kick the guys the guys in the truck said it was a headbutt your truck boys were off cuz I heard when they said that I'm like what the are they watching yeah they they uh pulled it up for me but it's hard see while the fight's going on they'll do that and they'll tell me it's a headbutt and see I have two monitors in front of me I have one right here and then I have one over the side and they'll say like look on monitor B and then they'll show it to me but I can't really it's hard for me to do that while I'm watching the actual fight you know so they'll show it to me and I usually I just take their

19:30word for it but occasionally that's fair but I think in the replay that they showed maybe they saw different didn't show the correct one the replay that they showed it was definitely wasn't a headbutt well they definitely did Collide heads for sure for sure and so who knows it was hard to tell but who gives a either it was a big ass cut big ass cut on Dom's eyebrow and he got D how good is Dominick Cruz took a punch too by the way he get he gets cracked his legs go stiff he goes down and a couple times Cody like acted almost like he wasn't going to follow him to the ground and and beat on him on the ground and almost acted like he was done yeah he's like calling him up or like a mark hunt kind of walkoff K you better get on him son didn't didn't even make an attempt to get on weird right well maybe he doesn't want to have anything to do with the ground maybe he feels like

20:14that's where Dominic might have a chance godamn it's not buesa down there relax son I don't know what dominic I thought you just wanted to punish him too maybe does Dominic Cru have any submissions oh no Dominick Cruz is really good on the ground oh hell yeah I mean on his record does he have any submissions yeah he missions from usually from Guillotines though back in the day WC his Jiu-Jitsu is really good trust me no no no he's a black belt for sure I've seen him compete in jiujitsu tournaments yeah and uh and he wrestled as well he's a wrestler but for a guy not to go down in his guard that's some that's like some Conor McGregor Diaz where like I just don't want I I can lose too easily down there well I mean it might not have been that at all it might have been even more simple that's a lost Jamie rear naked yeah so he's got a rear naked there he's got so he lost to uh he's got

21:03one rear naked he's not known for his guard though Joe you're right well who knows you don't you still you don't know what he can do but the bottom line was Cody wanted to keep the fight standing I think you just wanted to punish him it he hit him so hard he might have thought the fight was over he he seemed to the answer for Dominic I mean at least it work for Cody was it or was it not I'm no Striker that he made Dominic come to him and it's different when correct is that what it was well sort of but it's also you got to give credit to his team see Justin buckolz and those guys have been imitating they fought Dom so many times they can imitate his movements so they can mimic his so when they're sparring they do that that fake St that like false start you know because Dom does this thing where he false starts and then he starts and you never know which one's going to be a kick which one

21:49like it's a lot of like like patterns that Dom throws up so they figured out how to do that and they mimicked and they watch him so many times that they can get it down to and Cody didn't buy into the faints he was like come on if you're going to come on come in within this range and he kept baiting him and baiting and they'd Make It Count yeah the bottom line is if his brain's not confused and he just knows that in these exchanges Dom's going to be there and he's going to do some you know he's got some really unpredictable movement Dom does but he does like a bunch of things a lot and then commits yeah and so he timed those things and caught him with some vicious punches man yeah and yeah he wasn't like Dom fights a lot of guys and they're like what the it's like that Chris Tucker movie get H in the face like all which one of y'all kicked me and you

22:32don't know where it's coming from but he just uh he just garbrandt just never bought it like I'm just going to wait for you to commit you can do all that jazz and I'm just going to wait right here it's also a guy's been boxing when he was real young we talking about last night he was he 32 and two amateur record you look at that you're like ah but in the UFC compared to other Fighters that boxing comes in handy hug he was catching he was Cody was catching Dominic Cruz on the way out mhm mhm which that's a lot of people don't catch him on the way out never see it no he was catching them on the way up and the speed and precision of those punches the power glorious for five rounds and then people forget Cody in high school he I think he was first team All State out of Ohio which is big deal out there he had scholarships played division one or I'm sorry compete in division one wrestling

23:23was like nah I'm just going to fight professionally full-time that's what kind of stud you're dealing with and his his uncle was the alternate for the Olympic boxing team so I mean he comes from a long line of just Savages too pretty crazy yeah this his countdown piece was pretty amazing I I see I wish that uh Fighters appreciate the science of boxing more when GSP one of those fights he trained with Freddy roach and he came back with that jab it made waves but a lot of people didn't copy that well arosi did first it was like no this is Bo you know he's like holy Amanda nun Amanda Nunes boxing trainer is Howard Davis's son okay in American top team so she's I don't know why people don't incorporate that that much more like so much to learn you said there's three levels of striking pretty much in the UFC you know we had a discussion last night when when uh the

24:16Jiu-Jitsu guy 170 came in you know he came in he was a great Jiu-Jitsu guy he won a uh what's his name the guy that triangled chil from the top Damen mayia Damen mayia that guy came in he won the first couple matches Jiu-Jitsu then somebody told him he was a boxer yes and he started getting lit up and now he's back to just hit me I'm going to grab your leg Ronda that Rhonda that could be Rhonda Ronda just said okay I'm going to take a gear off I'm going to go to the be Olympic wrestling uh facility wherever just focus on wrestling still work on your striking go with Dwayne lwig that would be awesome or or Rafael Cordo mix it up you know what I mean you got to change up now obviously um but wrestling should be the focus when you see a Ronda Rousey promo you shouldn't see her hitting Ms you should see her shooting getting the clinch double Leg Takedown

25:11singles it should be wrestling every day twice a day for and but think about her Camp her whole Camp it's just a boxing gym this her head coach is a boxing coach so they want her to be this boxer people sold her as an next Mike Tyson so you have all that coming and she was amking girls remember I was on board too I'm like damn her striking she's knocking out then you saw it's the level it's like what what what's the level she's knocking them out at yeah but but but I I think the media and a lot of people are like dang she she's a knockout artist so you hear those and her Camp's going you're a knockout artist she can strike with anyone right and her coach like look that was always the case you remember when uh Gerald fought in the UFC it was always the case when Gerald was a was he a black belt back then or a brown belt no he was a brown belt really good Jiu-Jitsu guy

25:56though but his striking coach haded him convinced that he was a tie boxer he's like you're going to go out there and you're going to K and I remember Eddie and I would would train watch him hit the bag and hit the Ms and stuff and I was like man there are some scary guys in the UFC and he got a real scary one at Josh Thompson yeah Josh Thompson was like yep none of that CRA no no it was it didn't go down like that it didn't no what ended up happening no what ended up happening is Gerald's Jiu-Jitsu Gerald Streetman as we're talking about his he was my first student my first before 10th Planet I was teaching Jiu-Jitsu to a guy named Gerald strean he was a blue belt at the time and I brought him up showed him he got really good at the Twister really good at rubber guard rubber he first meat hook rubber guard triangle in MMA history uh in a Gladiator Challenge show

26:44he was kicking ass and then he fought Jean Silva in England in London and it was a spectacular match uh Joe showed that fight to uh uh Dana White Dana White game a shot game Josh Thompson Bo right off the he started he started working mu Thai with uh this this mu Thai coach and it was 6 months he was training 6 months with them right and he'd been doing and he wrestled in high school as well so he'd been grappling uh total at that point Joey breathing into the mic no I'm hearing some for sure Joe kid I was confused in my head you know Hear Too submarine right but anyways but anyway and and it's an interesting point I was just thinking about this it's the exact same thing It's when um when a striking like let's say I got um a a striker mu Thai came in he'd been doing mu Thai for 10 years and he wanted to learn the ground and he was doing MMA he's already fighting MMA

27:44comes up a lot I'm going to show him Jiu-Jitsu I'm going to be in his corner I'm not going to be telling him to take his ass down and work at jiujitsu po guard I'm like you just it's been 6 months let relax get involv what I want to see is that dude win with his mu Thai and it gives me another fight to get his Jiu-Jitsu the longer we avoid the Jiu-Jitsu in my eyes the better we woo we got away with another one now we have another four or five months to work on the Jiu-Jitsu a good way of looking at it but but there's a lot of Strikers out there's a lot of Strikers striking coaches out there that'll take some Grappler in teach him striking for 6 months and then uh Corner him in an MMA fight and like instruct him to stand with this and I got to pull the guy to the side and say dude don't listen to this guy you're not standing with this you know how many

28:35times I had to say that to like my guys I go don't listen to this you're taking this even came out remember what he said do you remember what he said to him he's Bangkok ready yes in 6 months he said it was Bangkok ready he's going to go out there so this is this is what this is what ends up happen luckily hey but you know what it it it it was a it was a good thing it's a good thing because this is what happened is he had him so believing that he was Bangkok ready after 6 months of Muay Thai that when he did the walk out on the UFC he came out with full mu Thai Shir dude with the MU Thai headband mu Thai uh uh a bicep bracelets or whatever the they aree bu mu Thai Garb dancing and doing the MU Thai thing he was in the octagon and did you know he went around the octagon and blessed yes doing that and Josh Thompson sitting there and I talked to Josh Thompson since then

29:29Josh Thompson wrestled in high school and he's a really good Striker he was up people off his back he was triangl people we knew all about Josh Thompson Gerald was not you know he was not in the best frame of mind for that fight you know what I mean because Josh Thompson was a killer back then he was a killer well he was in his prime back then that was Josh when he was he was one of the top like five or six guys in the division before the UFC before the UFC got rid of the 155lb division it was him and Eve Edwards and Eve Edwards knocked him out that was like Eve Edwards became the uncrowned king so this is what happened so luckily and this is according Josh Thom Josh goes dude I was so worried about his stand up based on all that M TI ritual stuff that when we saw the fight my whole thing was how possibly no no the whole the whole thing was for sure Josh Thompson's not

30:20going to want to go to the ground with Gerald that's where all this good is he's people up in MMA all his fights up until the UFC was people up with this j- Jitsu so how are we going to get the fight to the ground we were thinking about pulling how an elaborate uh uh unorthodox guard pull how are we going to do it that's what I was thinking I go cuz six months I go I know he thinks he's Bangkok ready that's six months man bang you know so it's a great t-shirt so so so bang Josh takes him down and I'm sitting there thinking what the thank you he takes Gerald down cuz he's so worried about us die and Gerald dude right away throws up up a Hellfire with his guard he threw a lot of heat it was pretty badass to see but at the end of the day uh first he almost had him in an arm bar Josh pulls out and then there's like a a scramble on the ground Gerald goes for a leg lock

31:12because he finally pulls out of his guard and then Gerald was really good at leg locks and he went for a leg lock and then Josh Thompson hit him like in the back of the head and knock out killer that was one of those yeah that was one of those going you know going going for leg locks is risky what start this no what started this all off uh people that those coaches that get these people convinced that they're a killer in one particular you see in every Camp though cuz in every Camp especially if if you have like a superstar camp and this coming from my own personal experience you have a superstar wrestling coach boxing coach Jiu-Jitsu coach you know you're spending your time with them they want to see you win with their with their even coaches go you see the way he tossed them off the W should be number want it's nice when they win with some of course like that

32:01like you showed me that that's always good but it's all about the goddamn W that's number that's why you got to have like a a head coach you got to have a head coach that's not a striking coach not a like a head coach like a Matt Hume that's a head coach you know like when he works with DJ they do everything yeah you know they work on submissions together Spar together he work they work on all these different techniques and it's total technique and tactics oriented conversations and many are there though in the world there like five but only one that's him this honestly this like in my mind it's like he if he's not number one it's him and fasza hobby I count two that can do it all yeah that really know the game in and out can do a game plan from standing to wrestling to grappling yeah I I mean I think those one guy might be better for you one guy might be better for the

32:48other but those the those are the top dogs cuz there's such Wizards on the ground or Wizards and they they could physically do it too that's like a big part of it and plus they know the transition like sometimes if you go to a pure jiujitsu guy like dude this isn't going to work if I commit both hands this I'm going to get blast in the face do you remember when George grel like he was a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu back when there was very few black belts but then he became he wanted to stand and bang with everybody and that was his thing yeah became his thing standing and banging and that's that happens so often it's it's so crazy and it's so rare that a guy comes back and figures it out like Damen Maya house Damen mayia tried it that way for a while yep he got sucked into it and got beat up a few times he took it to what's that expression you go to the

33:32dance what took you to there what's that expression I don't know yeah I know it's TR and what happens is a lot of early I saw a lot of high level Jiu-Jitsu guys come into the UFC that their hands am men's are men's yeah they're like it's like a three striking and they never evolved to that now the striking is evolving quick we at jock quick Jack quick you know and to be that the only guys that the only black belts that got to the UFC were like the like guys that were only dedicated their lives to to Jiu-Jitsu they just started learning striking you could tell you you could tell like holy they're they're just trying to get some kind of clinch it's obvious but now with there's so many goddamn black belts in Brazil now that it's not about it's all about you know here's here's a 100 black belts in the camp we're only going to take the best strikers like the the

34:26fierce ones you know the guy the days of pure Jiu-Jitsu guys coming out and looking like this that they're long gone now you can't you can't get get through the minor leagues in a way your attitude is like I got this right like yeah my first three years in comedy I didn't right I would just go up on stage and do that New York what do you do for a living yeah it was 50/50 what do you do for a living you do this I got really good at it but I couldn't make a living doing that if I'm bombing I could fall back to that and rock the house I don't work that muscle anymore do you know what I'm saying when I first started comedy I had to go on stage every Tuesday in front of the same people so you had to write a new five minutes for two years I did that I there was some weeks I couldn't do it so I just decided just to improvise I got so good at improvising by the time I got

35:21to Seattle and started featuring I was a really good improviser so what what are you saying about how's this equate to fighting I don't I don't improvise no more because I got it when I when you first met me at the store 15 years ago I would go on stage and do seven minutes of material and the rest was improvising I thought it was cool right it was Chic and when it works it works but when it doesn't work you got it's a nightmare but I'm pretty good at it I could really improvise pretty good do I still do it today no because you have to evolve I can fall back on it dog I can fall back on my wrestling that's my wrestling that's my pedigree when me and you are f when I call you and I make you laugh on the phone it's like that I didn't call you with a script when I call you me and you are talking about something that's not a script that's me and you driving getting excited right I got that

36:08pedigree I could rock that pedigree but that pedigree isn't going to take me to the next level you have to sit you have to write and you have to evolve different things yeah so I think that when I'm a wrestler okay I'm a black belt and Jiu-Jitsu I've been doing this since I was 18 I'm 31 now I've won Abu Dhabi du Bud Dhabi no GE pan Americans I got this i got this yeah I think there's there's two different styles of winners there's the all-around guy like DJ and then there's a guy like Anderson Silva that really I mean he might submit people but it's so rare and when he submitted cha sunon it's almost like cha sunon gave it to him I mean that that that arm ball triangle combination wasn't even locked in it wasn't even locked in I mean it was It was kind of over the calf a little it wasn't clamped down I mean maybe CH was so exhausted that he had a tap but

36:57honestly I mean if you ask him he he was pretty honest about having like mental breakdowns in fights he did it with uh Paulo filo remember same thing in the Anderson Sila fight though he said going in he he goes I know I'm going get submitted I'm get submitted so when he was taken down he's in his guard for like three minutes he's going it's just a matter of time he's going to catch me he's gonna catch me against two against Anderson Anderson Silva well he had been submitted a few times in fights that he was winning you know it's just the whole thing is it's weird but my point is Anderson's never been like a great Jiu-Jitsu guy he ta he Tapped Out Dan Henderson remember that he beat the out of him before he tapped naked he but he it was a beautiful Tech was that is true he did get his back what I disagree with you on that triangle that triangle was legit as hell let's look at it but

37:43triang CH sunon versus uh Anderson Silva triangle if I remember it correctly it wasn't fully locked in there was a little bit of space it doesn't have to be fully lock felt like it all depends on how much you're squeezing and leg curling it's true and he has long legs so dudes he's a goddamn but my point is Anderson Silva is a goddamn specialist his specialty is Muay Thai specialty is striking when you look at Anderson Silva's highlight reels it's that front kick to the face on vtor it's that knee to the body on Stefan boner that's his gift like here so here it is's be the breakes off him at this point yeah this is uh J had a beautiful double didn't he J he drove in so hard on that double he takes him down should he fights in a couple weeks this is the fourth round go let's go to the end of the fight okay let's see this this where CHA stands up and sits back that's tight as

38:37dude let me see that's tight as oh that's tight as that's a lot tighter than I thought well when he finally got the arm bar he opened up the leg cuz he it looked like he was about to swing the leg over the head I haven't seen that in a while go back right there it's TI pretty godamn tight right there that's tight I take it back chill when he right when he gets the arm is that's when he opens up now it's a different thing now it's an arm bar so he does there he opens it up yep that's right so my point being like the best guys at one particular thing are pretty rare like the guys like an Anderson that is just so Elite at striking that nobody wants to strike with him or a guy like Damen MAA so elad at Jiu-Jitsu that he makes guys like Carlos Condit look like they have no idea what they're doing he gets you on the ground and he makes you look like a wipe out but so there's that

39:23kind of guy that can do that or there's a guy like Mighty Mouse that mighty although he's got really good submissions you're not going to see that style at it he's not going to be able to submit the best Jiu-Jitsu guys in the world at 125 pounds most likely in a Jiu-Jitsu match Damen Maia probably could you know Damen Maia has the potential to beat pretty much anybody he rolls with on the mat in an actual straight up Jiu-Jitsu match so this it's you have two different styles you have like that style of winner which he's never won the title and there's only a few guys like Anderson that have you know and and Anderson and all do fairness he won it like what in 2005 was that when Anderson became the champ somewhere around there in the UFC that's a lot that's that might as well be 30 years ago it's a totally different class of fighter this so I the evolution of

40:11the game is so fast fast like four years ago we're in leather helmets like I would love to watch Tyron Woodley versus Damen MAA love it I would love to watch it that would be incredible that that to me is maybe one of the most interesting fights on on in the Horizon for me so far Dam Ma has been able to take down wrestlers at 170 he's been able to take them all down like easy and just with beautiful technique and uh but could he do that to Woodle and you got to go you got to go through the storm yeah the storm of meteors coming your way that Woodley drops on you yeah cuz he's the most dangerous in that first round and when you're you're trying to take him down you're closing the distance on him and you haven't like figured out how fast he is yet he's not he doesn't just hit hard he's fast I I saw some uh just rumor I'm sure but uh bising was talking about it him and Woodley agreen

41:04to a superf fight at 180 really bisbing and Woodley really when did they agree to this uh I was talking to my brother this morning he's like you see Woodley and bisbing want to do that catchweight at 180 I'm like what that's an interesting fight first of all can bisbing make that healthy that's what I was thinking cuz I feel like 85 is a tough cut for him remember when he used to fight 205 oh yeah won The Ultimate Fighter 205 yep wow that's an interesting fight well I think what what Woodley wants is that big payday he's like could you not yeah I mean he's campaigning for it look at this Mike Bisby and tylon Woodley agree to catch way B this is is legit so it's just happened today they just that's on the internet what is the name of the the internet lowkick mma.com interesting that's bis's Instagram very interesting very interesting so um gangster weight as cha

41:55sonen calls it yeah I like it I like it but like to your point Woodley just wants a big fight for lucrative payday that's all he wants the biggest name possible to get paid yeah smart that's the name of the game yeah and you know Anderson back uh in that has been still been calling for a rematch with uh bisbing too cuz his fight with bisbing was so close in England he feels like he beat him that was one of the craziest situations ever he hits him with that flying knee Kos him I mean bisbing was out he went out he dropped and Anderson does a walk-off kale and they go not so quick it was so weird it was so weird no watch that make get a video of that cuz remember bisbing takes a break cuz his mouth Beast falls out and he's like talking to the ref and Anderson goes yeah oh that's right that's right he he was trying to get the referee's attention and Anderson flying

42:44KN him face and wasn't the ref like coming in to stop it then Anderson did that flying knee that's why the ref was like hold up no that doesn't look at that that's I'm trying to a very weird scenar Bing box his face off yeah like he's saying something it's it's Herb Dean look he's like right there right there boom oh Jesus that was also the end of the round too right yeah oh my God Jesus look at this again he's like hey let me get my mouthpiece oh oh boy so damn look at this boom that is such a crazy drop too the way he get hit you know what I think he would have thrown the knee regardless whether he looked to the side or not I think he would have thrown it regardless and it it wasn't like bisbing put his hands down he looked over but he was still covered up here's the crazy I don't know about that I think he was a little distracted there for sure here's

43:32the crazy thing bising comes back and wins that fight boxes his face off how's he win that next round he comes out that I think that was the third round right he comes out that fourth round and boxes his face off crazy like a Kangaroo Crazy recovery that mean that's unbelievable is insane yeah because most people get hit like that that's it man over that's game over game over I mean his body shut off and he dropped no the power give us a second and we're back is he partially blind in one eye or completely partially but he could still he see he can see enough where they let him fight yeah I mean he does those eye tests they have to do eye tests apparently what they did is they put some kind of oil in his eye and that oil like protects his retina somehow or another and that's why it looks so crazy and once he's done fighting then they'll fix it but the

44:23problem is like if he gets it fixed now and then he goes and fights again and tears it even worse and then the other thing is the more time he waits the more advanced all this stem cell is getting like they they brought someone's Vision back with stem cells a blind guy right yeah someone was blind and they injected stem cells in this guy's eye and brought his vision back they and that's today 2017 what's it going to be like five six seven years down the line I mean bis may be retired by then though I would hope he'd be retired in three or four I mean I think he's 39 now right how old is Michael uh yeah he might not be that old I might be I might be upping him up a bit say 36 he might be 36 might be 36 37 37 I don't think he has three years left well he might look the guy is so game you know Michael bisbing does not have any extraordinary physical attributes not that he's not a great

45:15athlete he certainly is not he's not a very good fighter he certainly is but cardio but if you look at a guy like Rumble extraordinary physical attributes John liner extraordinary physical attributes what Michael Bisping has is just tough Ness just game as toughness knock him out he comes back and he just keeps coming back there has no quit he does no and he has great cardio there's no quit amazing cardio Ryan Parson says in the gym he said he's never seen a guy that hates getting tapped and hates losing exchanges more I've never seen anything like it even even just you know how you do like your normal warmup like if you're doing underhook just he's going 100% non-stop like how the slow down want him the title man want him the title he's better and better you watch him improve fight to fight look at his boxing his boxing's ridiculous man out boxed Anderson Silva yeah knocked out

46:08Luke rockold yeah Luke rockold looked disdainful in that fight like like come on man what are you going to do he pissed yeah he's pissed he had to show up for that fight yeah he was like disdainful that that was his Challenge and he got merked and he got merked oh and and bisb was shooting Tri xx1 19 in Toronto I was like huh y I'll be down there in 4 days it do swirl champ what a great story the best been fighting for 10 years the best story I love bisbing and then beats Dan Henderson in a close decision for this that was a fight you forget about that fight when we talk about fights of the Year oh yeah that fight was so good so good again his cardio he got he he landed the hbomb twice yeah landed it that English Zombie Pop back up and just starts boxing it's crazy got nothing but heart that dude and I listen bro I'm going to tell you something I had a funny feeling

47:00about Luke rockold I didn't think Luke was taking it seriously either I didn't how could you B on four days and I'm like this guy fighting for years all he needs his one shot but bis's not even a knockout artist like the betting OD for him to knock Luke rockle down the first round I don't I have no idea let me tell you something if my daughter catches you with one of those swinging overhand punches and clips the tip of your chin you got a problem hey Brian told me he went this new boxing gym and the guy's like hey you mind if this girl he's going to kill me for telling the story you mind if this girl jumps in there and spars some rounds and Brian's like sure he starts to move around this is dead serious and he dou hits him with the right hand Brian was like oh he said he's like a little wobbled I'm like bro if anyone catches you flush man you're going to be in for a long night

47:51especially the point of the chin the way rockold caught and Bisping Bisping swung it over the shoulder was a beautiful left hook he stepped in with it and just whipped it over the top and it was something that him and pillo had seen in Rock hold's game pill's Coach of the Year very good coach hands down coach of the year he used to be Tito's coach still is still is all back in the he worked with BJ he's worked with a lot of guys BJ uh Tito Chris Cyborg and Michael bizy yeah he's a quiet guy in terms of like he's not out there trying to get a lot of publicity he's not a a tension he's just an excellent boxing coach really knows his I'm impressed with probably the best in the game yeah one of the best in the game and good at adapting it for MMA too you know he understands MMA and it's like you know it's like there's those camps that do it that you don't want to hear

48:38something crazy that Woodley told me the other day would love to I went to dinner with Woodley and Mighty Mouse and some dude and his wife who won the um uh they won some VIP thing UFC thing and we we met them Del grat and I had dinner with him um Woodley didn't have a head coach he coached himself up until the Kelvin gast fight the Kelvin GM fight was the first fight that he worked with Duke Rufus and he was trying to figure out if he was going to go to at or if he was going to work with Duke Rufus I thought he was at ATT before all that his son no he never had like a head coach go down there and do a camp what the was he thinking just talented talented and just figuring out on his own his son told him to go to to Chicago how's his son or Milwaukee rather how old's his son a little kid this little kid told him he had the idea that his dad he should you should go he

49:24goes and I got he goes like 15 below zero got in my car and drove to Milwaukee and look at I me and then he won he beat celvin and then he's won every fight since then and won the title this day and age you you have to have that head coach you have to have you have to have all bases covered man you can't be distracted with this you can't be doing this over here you can't live here then flying just for your Camp you can't decide to get serious six weeks before the people are too good how imagine the NFL did that imagine if Tom Brady was like I'm I'm going to do this even though I'm in season then right before training camp starts so I'm going to get serious yeah they can't you just can't man yeah and Duke's another guy that doesn't get enough credit cuz he's another guy that's pretty quiet like Duke Rufus is not out there trying to make a lot of noise and get a lot of

50:06people to pay attention to him he just an awesome striking coach amazing striking coach that I think the reason why maybe he doesn't get enough credit with Woodley because what's going on with Pettis yeah yeah that's the only reason Pettis is in a weird State huh man I mean can't fight at 145 he's just too weak he just can't take it you know you you watch that fight and it's like God Max Hall just beat the out of him but look I don't get why he went to 45 you look at his losses at 55 it's like it's not that bad you're talking about split decisions decisions it's really not that bad you obviously can compete in the top five there he definitely competed and could actually go the full distance while getting beat up whereas at 45 his body was breaking down and he even said that he goes I I did everything in my power to make weight I just my body shut down I don't know what

50:49to tell you guys maybe he should just go heavy just start strength and conditioning work start you know doing dead lifts and be beef his body up cuz if you look at dos sanos there's dojos before um like khabib Ned off and then it's delandro afterwards you mean you mean the US I don't know what you're saying you talking about the US I don't know who you are I don't know who you are but there's there is absolutely a difference when a guy gets on a serious strength and conditioning routine regardless of Mexican supplements he went with Nick kerson and Nick kerson you ever seen the videos of hael Dos Angelos and kerson working doing work kerson is a beast he has guys doing crazy he's got you doing all that Marv marinovic where you got all this footwork stuff and he believes in like foot strength above all all Plyometrics all these explosive box jumps and all this crazy

51:42burpees and all the all the The Nutty explosive sprinting back and forth Stu cuz for I love that Meathead for a while remember Carlos condo was like climbing on trees and and uh Conor was doing all this weird stuff and then all of a sudden just the Meathead movement is back the Meathead movement how so like in what way that that training's not a meathead I I wouldn't say that's a mead movement at all I think that's the opposite no no no what I'm saying is that that raw power that strength condition you can't make up for that by climbing on trees and doing this weird yoga movement all that there's there's room for that that's all good but can't be your focus can't be your Focus but Connor what what what Connor's been able to do is develop like extremely agile back and forth movement and I think a lot of that is that edor portal guy I got to admit that as weird as his stuff looks when

52:36he's flipping around doing all these jumps if you can move your body like that that's going to directly translate into your footwork and your movement I'd give more credit to his head coach 100% I mean John Kavanagh movement oh speaking of UFC 207 you know who the biggest winner is who Conor McGregor how so he's the only star oh yeah he's the only Mega star and goes gets all the stock you fellas want you fellas you you want to talk now or what do you want to do cuz I'm the only guy left well how about this it'sit that and then the next pay-per-view is Holly Holm versus uh Germaine Dand which is it's a tough sell right tough sell it's a very good fight I would buy it as a hardcore fan I'll buy it for sure for sure we'll probably but the bottom line 100 100,000 people will yeah yeah it ain't going to be Conor McGregor numbers right bottom Conor when she lost and I'm sure he

53:28likes RAB by but business-wise he's like excellent excellent yeah that's well it's a tricky situation now with the marketing campaign that W WME WME put together for this that was so Ronda heavy and then Ronda gets smashed and now what are you going to do for you gonna like the girl who smashed Ronda is that what Amanda gets for her next title fight you do a you do a press tour World Press tour with her like let's let's introduce you the girl beat the out of Rhonda now she's not fighting let's do this press tour that she deserves do all this stuff piggy back on Rhonda again yes and show the beating well you know she sort of retired two legends in the sport that's why she's my fighter of the year she retired Misha and then she retired Ronda if Ronda retires that's huge she retired both of them all of a sudden Amanda is Nate Diaz did you see you know Kat Zeno posted on Instagram

54:22that Amanda blocked her cuz Kat zingano uh stopped Amanda and Amanda was uh hurting cats andano bad in the first round real bad cat was in big trouble but she survived and went on to stop Amanda and I love cat but all all all uh Amanda could do is like you lost the chick I just beat in 17 seconds the yeah but she got caught in an arm bar I mean how did Amanda lose that fight I don't remember that she beat her down she beat her down the third round cat got on top and started blasting her is she kind of gas no well she kind of GED but cat is ferocious beat Amanda you know that scream there's A's a there's a recording of cat Zeno screaming after she won that fight and it's so Primal dude it's like an animal scream I think you played it before on the podcast yeah because it was it was like when she did it I was like woo there's some you hear that's it that's her God come on

55:18man you can't fake that that's in your bones that's after remember that's after all that Darkness she dealt with with her husband suicide and just all this Darkness was that that that was after that is that afterward the play that again Jamie play that again listen to this hell yeah first time that makes me nervous that makes me nervous ferocious but but Brendon to answer your question from before not to interrupt you they're sitting on a gold mine William Morris now with this Amanda Nunes I told you last night she's prob of the lbgt community Jack deep pockets okay Deep Pockets LG it's lbgt QA now listen God damn what is that got to keep up lesbians okay so she's part of the lb I loty ticket they just hit the Lottery as in there they had Liz car before that but Liz car didn't beat up she was still it helped it helped but Liz car wasn't the champion like once you're the champion theion

56:33it's everything and when Liz Caro fought Ronda she fought her at the first fight when no one knew who Ronda was so Ronda has all this hype behind her she wins that fight and then goes on and you know Liz has done well in the UFC but having that it does it's not the same you know evinger is she fights her invictor she's awesome have you ever seen her fight Tony evinger very tough I don't think so she is bad ass she's an invictor she super tough she's really good and uh she's openly uh gay too what weight is she she's hilarious man I love that chick uh she's like 135 135 145 she's good man there's going to be more it's it's the same thing we were talking about like when Anderson was in his prime when he was just lighting people on fire the division was like there wasn't you know you had like Patrick cot you had a couple of fights for the title palis latus we like there's no one

57:23there's no well Rich Franklin was a champ but there's no overwhelming need to see that fight you know what I mean like you want to see the fight because I'm interested in see Patrick's got a great chin he's got power let's see what happens but it's not like oh here's the next one it's like Cody garbrandt fighting Dominic Cruz we were like oh let's see what happens here there was there was no one like that for Anderson for a long ass time and I think in the women's bantamweight division you got a kind of similar situation now it's like now you have Amanda Nunes who beats a out of Misha Mesa is gonna step back she's gone now she beats the out of uh Ronda Ronda steps back Holly goes up to 145 H gonna fight J Randa man they got to change that why why why not have AA fight for both belts how about aanda home to save that card yeah I mean make some moves CU cuz have you seen the

58:13card well no the man Holly's already on that card Holly's the headliner that's what I'm saying Holly's fighting Jermaine Durand for the 145 I think they should give Germaine deand nun 00,000 nun already beat her by the way you know they needed nun beat who I thought nun nun already beat jand Jermaine dur yeah she already beat her yeah she beat her in the UFC yeah Germaine is a wicked kickboxer her she's a world world class multiple time world champion kickboxer I think she's I think she won the Muay Thai World Muay Thai title several occasions she's like really Elite as a Muay Thai Fighter but big gloves stand up always stand up there's no ground and as soon as she got the UFC you could see like that transition between learning the Striking with uh with with takedowns versus just fighting in the kickboxing bout it's a big transition it takes time too but you're also going against people

59:08who aren't going to give you the time exactly they're just shooting it on her and beating her up and taking her down and just it's just a different sport who's on that card I thought the card was pretty good it's in Brooklyn yes Travis Brown is fighting Derrick Lewis that's an interesting fight but what's you know I mean what is tra where's Travis's head at right now he's St in the same camp isn't he yes God damn it Travis yeah Holly Holm versus Amanda Nunes that's the fight right there yeah I agree with you I think at 135 that's a they should do that at this for this card no make make Amanda the two belt Champion but then you have to remember that Valentina chevchenko just beat Holly and beat her up stand upes yeah and Valentina beat her up stand up with that check right hook that's the fight we should see yeah they put those two together they need

59:52help with this card the problem is most people even though Valentina won they don't know who she is yet even though she won I mean she needs a few more victories inside the UFC in order to get people excited pay-per-view this pay-per-view Brooklyn the only reason people know Holly too is they don't know her past losses really they granted her fight was on Fox but all they know is she's the girl that knocked at Rhonda that's what's selling this Eddie BR you trying to say that this isn't going to get you last 60 bucks I'm just saying that uh I will illegally stream it like I did the last one Amanda Nunez just fought for 45 seconds She's Fresh have her headline that card hey man let's build her Up's where's the where's the talking where's the fire is that the Super Bowl card yeah damn I I agree with that I agree with that that's I'm not saying nothing nothing I'm just saying

60:38no no Super Bowl weekend is in Houston different card oh it is yeah the Super Bowl weekend one I don't think they have that card locked up either by the way I think they're still moving fights around for that Brooklyn card because I think they recognize that they need a little bit more juice on that no Super Bowl card in Vegas this year no it's not it's in Houston this year and the Super Bowl's in Houston yeah or is Super Bowl in Houston or Dallas I thought it was Dallas is it Houston I know it's Texas Texas so that's uh they'll have a big card for uh for the UFC there they don't that's a great fight right now is uh Bermudez and chansung Jong that's a good fight but what what uh day is that that would sell seven pay-per-views February 5th fourth Super Bowl on the fifth the fourth yeah so they need to throw one of those cards I'm not there for that slow down sir

61:27Jesus Christ the fight that's a Super Bowl card and it's a fight night no no what's the Super Bowl weekend Super Bowl week that's it super week the 29th the game is on the fth yeah that's the night before it's a free fight night it's a free fight night because Super Bowl weekend it's always been a a pay-per-view UFC it's usually been in Vegas in Vegas yeah I wonder what they're doing man well you know what man who's going to headline cards right now who would sell a pay-per-view it's a good question there's you no there's a lot of St no heavy weights other than Stipe miic that can sell a big card right now and he has to sell it in Cleveland too there's a lot of stars out there there's a lot of stars out there that would sell Pap for you Eddie H Sirius and and just got give me three and go well Amanda nunz really didn't I mean she put in 45 seconds they should take advant there's

62:20I mean you want I'm talking about legit pay-per-view sellers honestly there's Conor McGregor than there's everybody else right corre there was a thing that they showed the other day that Connor in three fights Drew more pay-per-view than the entire UFC roster in 2014 his his three worst Gates and pay-per-views all time would beat ronda's best and Brock Lesnar's best yeah he's the best he's the biggest for sure and anybody that are no no you're but some people are looking at you like danz argued it right biggest star in Conor is like no what ronda's is is like here's what's different when ronda's face came on the screen the first time in Vegas this weekend I heard young girls scream that's all I heard I heard young girls it was like Justin Bieber pulled his dick out it was like how about how about that motherfucker's talking how about Bieber's talking I know he

63:11made a tweet that said you just got knocked the out hey Bieber sing your songs and beat it nerd so silly yeah that dude's so your own music what the are you talking about that dude's so silly that's what I can't stand when people aren't involved in the game they say Stu like that it's like what have you ever done to risk your what what are you talking about yeah yeah damn it got 239,000 likes and it's it's because Ronda her she was at some concert or something and her little sister want to meet Bieber and he didn't have time so then she got mad remember that she was like Bieber so that's where it stems from okay so he's like waiting like well you remember when when Ronda got koed by Holly Trump said uh I'm glad she got knocked out not a good person Trump talked again didn't he did another tweet about Ronda about Rhonda and he's the president of the United States no I'm pretty sure

64:00really he is so crazy check out his tweet he is so cra why was he mad at Ronda on the first know she might have talked about him cuz she said she goes I would I would never vote for Trump yeah she said she was going to vote for Bernie Sanders the president of the United States what do you care I know hey man don't you have bigger fires to put out instead of tweeting well not only that man he's not a politician man that's not what he is I know right he's not he's not he's not trying to he don't even want to stand at the white house because I got a I either look at this yeah I got a bed I got Chinese Butlers and exactly the out of here the White House and it's probably run down go in there it's probably like the Playboy Mansion there and you're like what it's nasty M do all the windows and you've been in the Mansion right didn't you come with me to that marijuana policy project I first

64:56when I first got invited to the um uh the Mansion I thought oh my God it's going to be just like those videos you see they used to be the like commercials Wild Girls Gone Wild like Playboy Mansion and you'd see like on E you see the Playboy Mansion you're like oh we get invited to an event there and then you you figure you figure it out really quick that okay uh not every night goes off cuz there's like no girls there they had giant screens everywhere in the backyard playing Loops of people partying on the good nights on the good nights so you got to you're at the Playboy Manion seeing people party at the Playboy mansion and then you then I looked into it and it and it turns out they rent out the place like all the goddamn time rent out all the there's going to be it's not like what you see on TV there's only two times per year where it's that what what you imagine

65:50where they're just 80% girls and they're on their underwear that does happen but it's only their Halloween party and their fourth of July or a Midnight Summer's Eve possible to get into those you remember when we to see fights there yeah they fight we saw Strike Force there and thatch bot on that yeah dude thatch man that was a tough loss yeah it's right over isn't it yeah he just did not he looked terrible on the ground man he was making big rookie mistakes and super amateur yeah was like he was he was like leaving himself open he wasn't patient doing it the right way I'm telling you if you saw in the gym you're like oh like I've seen him against the best in the world you're like this motherfucker's going to do it man so what is it uh commitment to the grappling commitment to grappling commitment to uh Jiu-Jitsu he's just so good at stand up he you know his dad's

66:39this Legend in Denver as far as striking and he was a Taekwondo guy and he trained him since he was little and that was always the it factor in the gym where you're like dude if you're staying with him good luck he could do it all both ways whatever he wanted he could uh mimic anything he looked good standing up too man he made the mistake of of initiating the grappling I was like Jesus Christ and what hurts him even more I don't know if you guys saw this with all the chaos going on with UFC 207 their head coach liser bowling who is my head coach I and I think one of the best in the game is retiring he's leaving uh Muscle Farm why is he doing that because his kids his kids in wrestling and he lives far away and he's like dud I'm spending too much time with the guys traveling stuff he was in the summer I had three weekends with my kids he's like I just can't do

67:22it and his his his son little Easter's like really getting competitive in wrestling and L's his wrestling coach how far away does he live from the gym wow like an hour that sucks he should move closer what the but again he's like I'm because he owns his own business he makes crazy money so he's just doing it and it kind of got out of hand he's like dud I'm spending too much time with the team and not enough time with my family he's a good dude too one of the best really good guy one of the best very smart too I I tell you what I'd like to see not I have no idea I don't know if they've talked about this I have no idea but I'd like to see Matt Brown Take kind of a leadership role with that team really move that into like the next phase of his career I don't even know if he's into it but I've seen him with the guys and with his mentality and experience you're talking

68:03about a coach who kind of knows it all like we were talking about with Matt Hume who's been there be a good idea I have no idea if he's even into it yeah it was interesting because Dwayne was working with Matt Brown for this fight worked with him for a few weeks but I thought maybe we'd see more like footwork and movement from Matt that's like similar to Dwayne style but Dwayne style doesn't work that way Dwayne you you have to be in and you have to spend a ton of time with him and I really think he's the perfect coach for TJ but unless you're one of those small guys with that crazy footwork he's not a guy you can go to for six weeks and pick up on but you know what man I agree with you but do you remember when Travis Brown was first on the scene like when he fought uh skyscraper and he moved like Dominick cruzing he's training at Alliance that's what I'm saying the entire division was

68:48like what the are we going to do yeah well what happened to him Edmond 100% is that what it is 100% think think about all his fights since he left there he was a barbarian man I I always said that he was the dark horse in the division I was like let me tell you something that this guy puts it all together he can do some that you rarely see from a heavyweight he went from Alliance to Winkle John for a while he was always at Alliance he he he went to uh Alliance then he went to Jackson's and was good there over and those guys then over him stayed there then he left and then he ended up going to uh Edmond with Ronda so but I I same thing I remember on I forget what UFC it was UFC one one I forget anyways um I fought Ben Rothwell he was on the card fighting some scrub and I looked at my coach and I was like I do you get do you know about that guy and it was least he goes

69:39a little bit I went he's probably your next heavyweight champ have you seen the way he moves I'm like we don't want to fight him uh like down the road we want to fight him soon because that guy has so much talent he's probably the next champ they're like really then we saw his fight and everyone was like Jesus Christ I'm like he has footwork like Dominic Cruz and he's a c67 yeah you know I talked to Brian Stan about him and Brian was pretty adamant about it like after the last fight he's like where's all his footwork where all he's like I remember this guy having incredible footwork and movement when he was at Jackson's camp and now he's just kind of lost all of it he's become this stagnant like also doesn't look like he has the same desire anymore like when he knocked out gonzago or Josh Brown Bingo yeah josett Barett rather who just got flagged yeah he got flagged huh what you

70:25know what for um steroids really hey man that guy he's been flagged before for God's Sak and I love Josh happens he's got caught a few times you know the whole Edmond somebody put a a video out pretty funny about everybody getting knocked out Edmond camp with a little flute like from Titanic and you know and it's uh it's it's sad you know right before the Ronda fight I had a pee and while I was peeing I said to myself you know what I can't call this fight but what do I want to happen let this poor girl win let him let her retire let aanda nun she would never retired if she won you know whatever I was hoping I didn't want to see what I just saw again yeah but why do we feel that way see but you didn't see what you just saw again what you saw was way worse the Holly fight it was her trying to get Holly but Holly was fighting wisely she was Sliding Away cracking her with shots it was Rhonda

71:23being Rhonda she got hunt yes Rhonda got hunted down and destroyed by an assassin I totally different kind of a fight I hunt him down right now if I get up and go and say I have two seconds before his head adjust and he realizes where he is even Eddie if I get on top of him inside control as big as and fat as I am Ed he'll go I can't breathe but you know but after a while you get it together she didn't even get it together yeah but it's it's all the big difference is getting hit in the head oh I understand when getting in the head she had probably had no idea what the was going on but it was like but Joe she just came from a training camp was her media scrum stuff like her training camp usually she's got little gu she's throwing around in training camp this time I didn't see her throwing nobody around TR she she definitely had Judo work she's definitely doing a lot

72:16of work she there was some footage that was up of her hit and takedowns did she tell uh Edmond I don't want to see nobody I don't want to talk to nobody was her training reflective of her attitude towards the media and everything like this yeah something is not right here got I I Joe I love you I appreciate the head shot but something wasn't there I get shot in the head I put my hands think that's fair to say something was not there something was not there that that's why I feel and the public I mean guys who really you feel broken heart in a way isn't that weird why do we feel broken I feel broken I called you up the next morning and told you you were driving back from the airport and like I'm brok me everybody gets fired after holol everybody I go back to the Japanese cultural center with msaki down there for $7 every time that's not what made Ronda Ronda though she's so loyal but

73:08something but if she was so loyal she wouldn't left the guy that got her into the UFC though what guy who you talking about the manager manager is different manager SCB but if she was so loyal she wouldn't have left him but she who knows what that deal is you listen to that story different though right there's but there's two different versions of that story who I don't know who's right but and I I feel I'm the same way where and for whatever weird reason right there I agree 100% the head punch is great but something wasn't there Joe something wasn't there when she went to grab her Nunes went like this it wasn't the same Ronda likeo like this yeah it wasn't the same Rhonda that came out for Holly and those that tenacity Joey you remember that time you told me you mugg that gay guy and he beat the out of you yeah yeah you know yeah and he wasn't a gay

73:59guy cuz I'll get in trouble and I let's what happened was guys that were thinking they wanted to be gay like guys that had families and that wanted to get their dick suck would have a few drinks in them and they go to Hudson County Park to see if there was somebody there to get their dick sucked like before I went into your show last night I parked Sean just said Park in this lot I didn't park in that lot I parked in a lot that was empty and when I was walking over there some dude kept making weird eye contact with me he wanted to suck dick don't T down no he look you could have thought you were big you want I know when somebody looks at me I know when somebody looks at me because they see me from the podcast somebody looks at in his head what does that look no no no I know I know exactly I know it's either he had two looks to him either he wanted to sell me drugs or

74:54he wanted to suck my dick okay how' you decide that it was Dick uh how creepy it was just his appearance I don't want to say he looked gay right but just his appear he G he was a male prostitute Let's Pretend he was M watering okay okay so anyway so These Guys these guys would come down and they'd be half drunk like in hindsight I think about it and they're all these type of dudes that may not just be gay they just have a family but they like the G you know it's 19 fucking0 in 1980 you it wasn't easy to go I'm coming out of the closet there was a lot of guys in let me talk to you about something youever you ever been around the guy tell me the truth as a man you been around the guy that when you get in your car and go home you're like you know what for sure I could definitely talk that dude into sucking my dick he's dying to suck a dick even though he's

75:42got a hot girlfriend and a kid and they got a dog and he goes to uh what CrossFit you could tell maybe he could mingle on the other side you could talk him into switching governments if you had kid and a dog a lot of dudes like that that you look at you go right this guy there who with a kid who's walking his dog he like am I gay no no no no maybe you have evil fantasies like Rob hord and help B for Le you know song evil fantasy but he was gay as no I'm not saying that I love Bob how I love but I'm just saying that you got another thing there's a lot of guys dog that you see that you know maybe that dad's still alive and he was a marine you can't go home does that mean you can't go home and tell your dad who was a general I want to suck big full you know what I'm saying those guys if your dad was alive Marine you want to blow guys you're an intell how many guys you think are out there

76:43right now we've had this discussion that I'm married whatever but every once in a while they put a feather suit on and they go dance like and anything it's probably more than 10 and that's what we used to you know we used to go down there we were dumb kids we figured out we could Rob these dudes that were drunk they come down to get their dick sucked so we him we got the captain of police's son so we weren't going to go to jail he was better looking than you we weren't going to go to jail we put him out there we put like a a guinea t-shirt you know those wife beaters with a little gold chain with a cross on the ulate and we put him out there on Boulevard and then we hide in the trees and then he go suck dick and the guy would park and then he'd walk him back and right before I went to get that one knee I come up with that straight right kick John Jones to the nut sack

77:34godamn you go down we we're in the trees we're hiding in the trees we fly down from the trees and we just Bam Bam Bam we take your money we were we're 16 guys you know nobody knows what's right and what not that perfect guy to Rob who's guy's not going to the cop he's not going go to the cop and you got to remember my crew was the third crew on there was a crew from 64 Street they were not only robbing you they were taking you to your house I had friends that were in high school that actually were getting were setting you up yeah let's suck your dick and then they put you back in your car and go to your house and Rob you we were the light crew we were just going down there peppering you with a few shots and running away with you their dick my point about the story was there was one time where I got beat up I went down there by myself you went yeah you went down I went down

78:21there by myself I had the mix minus the 8 and A2 and I only by8 so I got caught by the hook and I and I called my buddy and I go dog we lost and he goes I'm with my girlfriend but at the time I was yaying it up I'm hanging out with my buddies with h the bag I'll go down there I go down there I'm from Jersey they ain't got to do nothing to me this dude lit me up it was it could have been noon as his uncle it could have been a man new as his uncle he punched me with so many shots but again he lit your ass up lit me up and had ack but here's the funny thing that in hindsight now I know what Joe's saying levels are striking I never saw striking it was night time so I didn't even see his hands I just kept seeing lights you see lights I just kept seeing lights when you see lights at night that's the had some training it's it's it's a funny there's a funny thing about striking too and

79:23this relates to what what Amanda can do there's power and then there's like wo power there's like crazy power God gifted power yeah some people just have it and you see it with liner liner for sure has it Rumble for sure has it there's people that have this weird power they have an ability to hit people and you see people that normally can take a shot and you see the look in their eye where they're in big trouble like right away and when you get hit like that man you don't know where the you are no let me let me ask you this in Jiu-Jitsu uh every black belt knows how to do a rear naked choke but very few people can do a rear naked choke like Marcelo Garcia know very few people I just uh it's because would you would you say it was natural like liner or was it because he spent a lot of time perfecting the back and I know for a fact that he did he used to he used to

80:13ride on people's backs with the over under and not even try to tap them he would just spend a lot of time just riding and perfecting the control then he just mastered the fight then he he realized how important that squeeze was so that he would ride and squeeze and he knew that it was all about the power of the squeeze so he spent a lot of time with the rear naked choke and you know there's a lot there's there's quite a few guys out there now that that are uh F you know his students and other guys that have developed back attacks is as is almost as good as Marcel but probably not as good now when you're talking about power you know that certain guys have the power whether they're born with it or not what if just the guy what if the guys with the power actually in their training working harder and more consistently at developing power like what would you need like you got to it's

81:06that that is a that is a possibility but it's also a physics issue it's also an anatomy ISS what if it's both though it might be both but there has to be right it is like okay here's a like Cody Cody garbrandt is not have big hands he's not built like a George Foreman type character like George Foreman has freakish physical attributes he's got hands that are like the size of like canned hams they're gigantic and he would just thump to thump guys with a jab and you would see them get stunned and hurt obviously trained like a obviously had very good technique too obviously worked on all those things too but you can't overcome the physical attributes if a guy does all those other things as well that's where the freaks come in that's where the people like that just have this ridiculous one shot power there's just and but technique look at Conor Connor's not a big guy he's a wide shoulder guy

81:59but he has that one hit quitter yeah yeah no question but when you think about your turning sidekick right like your personal turning sidekick it's everybody knows now uh that it's extremely powerful uh scary powerful very few people I've never seen anybody throw turning sidekick as hard as you I've I've worked with a lot of martial artists in my time still to this day holy uh Michael white excuse me he's right up there too but he's like 64 240 anyways uh but you have said many times that the re the the secret behind your power was the Reps you knew that it was all about just hitting that heavy bag as many goddamn times as possible every day just standing in front and you said that most people don't develop that power cuz most people just don't spend the time standing in front of a bag and just working so that must built though well that too listen man there was a lot

82:57of guys that I trained with that had good turning Sidekicks I always knew that I had a a cheat I had a physical Advantage like the size of my hands for someone my size I mean you have to realize I had hands as big when I was fighting at 154 it was ridiculous they were just they're just certain physical attributes you have the the the width of the shoulders is big but that has nothing to do with your turnning side it does it does it's in the hips too same thing my hi kn ass all the explosive it's also the like Fast twich fiber is it a coin Powers a lot of it is fast twitch and you either have fast twitch or you don't I mean like Nick Diaz is a hard puncher but he's never going to be a puncher like Woodley no matter what he does trains with it will never be never be able to punch your average average your average uh uh MMA fighter how much time do you think they spend working on

83:51the power of their turning sidekick very well no one really throws a SP sidekick in the very few then right well there's a few guys there's a few guys that have allotted a certain amount of time a week like like for 20 minutes I'm going but to your point power how many guys focus on throwing a right hand or left hand if they're dominant left hand they southp everyone does there's only there's very few who can do it in one punch and knock guys out you know Fighters that specifically train every day just to develop specific punching like today I'm going to spend power punches right every in between camps guys do that for sure guys will just like go like George was famous for doing that he would go down to henzo and just just only train Jiu-Jitsu feel like months on end you know just to really tighten everything up he went to Brazil a couple times just to traini would

84:37doing boxing you know I would do boxing what's the best thing you can do like you're a professional fighter you're fighting in the UFC you're ranked 13th and you want to take your your your your power your hand you want to be able to knock someone you want to be you want to have that Conor McGregor strength what do I got to do to get weight would you do I don't think so genetics yeah it's genetics I think genetics has a lot to do with it% if you go see somebody they could clean up the efficiency you know because it's it's your shoulders turning your shoulders there a into there's a lot of stuff that goes into that punch you know if a wrestler a world champion wrestler came in and I came in and I was a world champion wrestler but my punches weren't that hard I think in time true but let me tell something you talk to someone who's a real boxing trainer and they will tell you that

85:28there are guys that just come in and for whatever reason they might not have ever boxed before but you have them throw a jab and they're like and you're like oh Jesus can't teach that whatever for sure there's those people and then the technique makes it better the technique like if you look at a guy like Sergey kovalev who's a a vicious knockout artist vicious puncher he's got both he's got the the the beautiful technique but also has that freakish god-given strength those are the guys that often times wind up being Champions now look to to that point look at Andre Ward who just fought who probably trains more than Sergey he was an Olympic medalist gold medalist has been training fighting since he was 10 I think so and he works on power punches but he's not a knockout so you're saying you're a head coach of a team you would tell all your fighters to uh you're either born with power

86:18you're not don't worry about working on your power just work on your you can always work on your power improve everything but you're never going to get it to that Rumble level I'm never going to tell Rumble hey let's let's pick our shots here let's more volum what can you do specifically 15 minutes a week 30 minutes a week it we're we're focusing on developing power you're not known for a right hand you know after two years we're going to do what is it though specifically the pool with dumbbells like Muhammad and just throw punches you could you could most certainly do some strength and conditioning work that would help just hitting a bag hitting a bag would help a lot hitting a bag maybe it's it's all the above will help like Evander Holyfield started working out with Macky shellstone when he went up from cruiserweight to heavyweight so he did a lot of weight lifting and his power came

87:09up lot weight on them put a lot of weight on and maybe Mexican supplements may also explosive and maybe definitely Mexican supplements and maybe 100% 100% anyways and he could win the Olympia at the same time yes but the guys who are like like there's a good video of Joseph volini on his go to B Bazooka Joe volini on his Instagram page volini who uh was Glory Champion had to step back for because because of concussions and I think he's going to stay retired he hasn't decided yet but he he went down on the top I mean he's one of the best kickboxers in the world but there's a video of him hitting the pads and just digging just digging into pads and talking about like the importance of sometimes just going all out with power just all out power shots on the paths like watch you can see this guy he's a but and when he's doing it when he's when he's hitting these

87:58pads the good thing about it is hands never drop from his chin always good position but the to really dig in and work only solely on your power you don't want to do that all the time like this is just something that you're going to do occasionally and only you know every athlete has to decide it really depends on the person depends on what else you're working on 5 minutes a day see but like this is combination this is so simple combination right hand left hook right kick to Dev isn't it better on a heavy bag than as opposed to these not necessarily that's just as good that's just as good that style but that's not as good for straight kicks because you can't kick a person to the body that way like if I put a a body pad on a dude and I spinning back kick him he's going to get really hurt like I'll break your ribs even with one of those big body shields

88:45on it if you let someone spinning back kick you in the body it's going to break your ribs there there's some punchers too if they if they do a liver shot on a coach with a body pad yeah they'll drop them internal bleeding hit up Mitch dog yeah the dude who lost who was the Box the first Boxer that got choked out in the UFC Jony I heard that dude oh he can some Ms up Jony talented of all time J Tony rest in peace he said dog you got to put extra he will your up he was an artist when he was at his best he was an artist anyone from that national team that they say who's the best boxer most talented of all time every single person unanimously say say James Tony even Floyd Mayweather is like best we've ever seen talent wise James Tony he was a bad but he got he liked to eat he loved him some big Maxs that's a problem he got thick he went all the way up to

89:36heavyweight remember that you know James Tony started out his career at 160 168 freak super freak to to to to that point though Ed and we can end on that I'll get rid of it look at baseball like Mark Maguire he's never going to be a single Bas guy he's a guy who but here's a good example full Mexican supplements when he's at his best true if you get that guy on the natch and had him hit a baseball I mean how how much how much distance is the difference he might hit 30 home run instead of 70 but still it was in his genetics big forearms powerful hips follow through he he was never going to be the guy who would bunt the ball or lead off right Sosa same thing same thing Barry Bonds Jack to the gills but that might not necessarily translate into punching power which is really interesting it's like they might just be really good at that you know I mean it's like punching

90:24power is a weird one man it's it's a real weird one kicking power is just as weird lway could hit hard cuz that could throw hard again that that movement from the hips all that same movement oh they said that when you they had a documentary on on the 83 draft 30 for 30 hell's yeah and how they slammed him how they had to scam him up like they had to pull uh Stein Bren had to had to draft him because he didn't want to go to Baltimore yeah he didn't want to go the tremendous kinky but bro this dude could stand on the warning sign that's a true story he could stand on the warning track John ohway take one step and put the ball right there in your glove at home plate really that's deadly there there's a rece there's oh you have no idea's how far is that let's say 305 305t 305 ft and he's is he throwing is it is it going up in the air or is it a straight line just a bullet bullet you

91:23have to throw so fast for that ball not to drive you have to watch some of the 30s 30s from all like that is very interesting how he didn't want to play for Baltimore so somebody went to Stein bren's office and they said we'd like for you to draft John thatway Stein brener goes and he opened up the schedule for the the lineup for two like three years later he had always starting in right field already here's why that's crazy here's why being able to throw from the morning track into home plate is is crazy if you took a baseball and you threw it and you shot a bullet they would both drop at the same rate so the bullet's only going to be in the air for a few seconds that's why you could be 200 yards away put your crosshairs on someone pull the trigger and then boom they die immediately it's because the bullet's traveling so fast but the drop is the same amount of time

92:11so it depends on how long it takes to get there it's how far it's going to drop so like if you're shooting some something from really far away like there's a lot of people that get into long range shooting like they go on those ranges they'll hit these plates these steel plates that are like 5 800 1,000 yards away and you hear bang clink like you there's a delay a noticeable delay and in that delay they have to calculate the drop so like if they're shooting at that plate their reticle where they aim it has to adjust for the fact that this bullet is going to drop in the amount of time that it takes to get 800 yards so they aim higher yeah so it's going to take a second or so or half a second whatever it is so they have to aim higher so that scope but just for that if you're throwing a baseball imagine how much slower that is than a bullet so you have to throw so

93:01fast if you're throwing straight if you're just going to throw straight silly and go get into home plate that must be throwing a bullet it must be crazy you know his receivers in Denver yeah the first three years couldn't catch the ball they couldn't catch the ball they they would catch with their pads and it would be so hard it would leave imprints underneath their pads on their chest like people crazy that's a known that's a known skill that some people just never develop the ability to throw a fast ball that's another one it's like punching power we discussed it last time the the Dynamics of it I'll tell I'll tell you who who I think it translate from if if you threw a punch a guy who was explosive as and could throw and do it all Bo Jackson oh yeah Bo Jackson Punch If you taught Bo Jackson how to punch but you know look here's another example Hershel

93:47Walker Hershel Walker could punch like a and he was a karate black belt I mean he he fought a bunch of MMA fights deep into his 40s remember and Jack jacked at like 48 shredded giant sixpack not an ounce of fat look like a superhero looked like Yol Romero but aged as F and didn't look old it was weird real weird he still looks good he's in his 50s now's talking about having one more fight before he stops yeah let's not but yeah I hear you but why not go to some League how no how about ryzen did you see Gabby Garcia beat up I was going to post it I was going to post I got the video I was going I want I was just going to post what the Japan have you guys seen it then I thought about it I I can't do this she was running the chick was running the was that can we see that yeah do you know where it is Jamie I'm going to put PE real quick go ahead put I'm going

94:39to put it up myself I'm going to put it up on Instagram Jamie and when I put it up on Instagram you could just I'm just going to put it up have you seen this Jo and I'm going to write Gabby gar gabby gar huge she fights his straight up Grandma she comes out and is doing like the WWE off the Rope stuff as she's coming out like it's a game you know my girl Jessica tap Gabby Garcia Jessica who flowers oh really she did yeah bro how in competition in compet World okay I just posted it so if you go to my Instagram Joe Rogan you'll see it just says what the Japan WTF Japan and you see this one woman towering Jack to the tits looks like Jose cono in 1984 oh my God look at that old lady and she fought a 50-year-old woman who looked like she hasn't worked out in a year and she looks so scared can we get a GoFundMe so she doesn't have to do this well that woman

95:36looks so scared too go back scared can we re can you refresh that oh look she knees her in the body oh my God and punches her in the face I mean and mercifully Gabby Garcia is not the most vicious striker in the world not the friendliest cuz oh it's well she had to do what she had to do she's getting PA Why would that fight Gabby easy cash I understand easy cash look at this poor lady well that must have mooved to North Hollywood and give massages or fight Gabby Garcia look at this poor lady they told her you can either fight her or go to North Hollywood and suck dick and I don't even think they give her the option I think they just delay the trip to North Hollywood watch this look how scared she is look at her big deep breaths while she's looking at Gabby's body Gabby's like 6'4 she's legit 6'4 probably 240 natural oh totally natural and this grandma because all steroids are natural

96:29they all come from Earth what the is going on Japan what are you doing so crazy why is that Grandma even in there and if if I'm Gabby Garcia I'm like I just can't man I'm going to win no fans if I do this well I don't think most people have seen this that got the sakuraba knee braces on and what is yeah what is the reason why she did it this lady you got to Wonder look how scared she's scared right now she shook her hand after it's over and maybe she was a pro wrestler or something I think she was a pro wrestler they probably gave her a big ass payday to lose a few years of her life what the yeah what the indeed that's that was what the the I will say this that's the worst Japanese freak show I've ever seen because that was a woman who did not belong in there at all I'll say this that's the worst fight I've ever seen match up that's the worst I've ever seen ever the most

97:20brutal mismatch ever yeah horrible man horrible why but Gabby a Jiu-Jitsu black belt why didn't Gabby just grab a hold of her and choke her I mean she could have easily and not even hurt the old lady people will pay to watch anything on New Year's Eve I know but I mean if you're Gabby if you're Gabby and you're looking at that if I called you up and said listen I know a guy that wants to his dog you want to come over for five New Year's Eve New Year's Eve New Year's Eve as long as I make it to where I got to go to B midnight I'm solid did you ever see one of those videos when you were a kid did you know anybody that had like a VH of like Barnyard Betty no you never saw the barard Betty no no my friend Billy when when I was like 20 I guess got a VHS tape of this chick um that got by animals and we went to his basement he he had to hide it so he had to like go get it and then we had to

98:13meet down the base and then one of us had to watch the door so that no one would uh you know one of the parents like so one of us was like on the stairs like looking down you know the like railings in the basement there's like the gap between the stairs and the railings so I don't remember who it was but he was like on the stairs like watching the TV through the Gap cuz he had to be the guy with his arm up in case the door open cuz we're watching this chick blow a dog and blow a horse and get by a donkey and all this different crazy same lady or multiple women I it was so grainy and so hard to tell but it was real I mean she really was like letting a dog her she was like letting a pig her it was it was horrible it was horrible I mean I I remember Faces of Death I remember being I couldn't even finished it I was so scared do you ever see I've seen them all you've seen them all

99:01remember the one when they tied the dude between two car two trucks and pulled them apart I don't remember that one yeah it was in the Middle East yeah I didn't get that one either they tied you had that X-rated I took it off I remember the one with the guy that the newscaster that was walking backwards and the alligator got him one minute he was like we here at the here live at uh you know clear water Florida to see the raining of the Ducks the GU going deep and deeper and deeper yeah all the children are here and all just guy gock stop it stop it and somebody comes and throws a blanket like a leg pops up oh my God I remember the guy hangliding and he had like the camera and he's hang gliding just goes into that swamp and then just crocodilla oh Jesus Christ the one with the guy hanging the power you ever see uh when when you're driving and those guys are hanging the Terminals and they

99:54showed a guy doing something in a bolt just blowing him up and him just like and like his hair going on fire him just Dro they showed the monkey in China where you go to the restaurant I like you hit them in the head yeah yeah that's awful how about that one Satanic ritual where they that they supposedly ate that was fake that one's fake that there was a few of those that they did where they staged stuff where they pretend we're pulling out the guts like fake and cheesy but that poor monkey was really screaming man they were hitting him in the head godamn that's a but by the way that's all before they knew that eating primate brains is like super bad for you is it yeah primates have prons in their brains that's where you get mad cow disease like mad cow disease or Jacob Jacob krux Feld however would you say it that disease comes from eating the same tissue as the species that you are so

100:51that's why cows get it cows get it from eating brain tissue of other cows like you feed cows the like that's one of the horrible things about industrialized farming is they would actually take whatever the is left of the cow they're not using and they grind it up and feed it to cows cows that are straight vegetarian that are only supposed to be eating grass they're not even supposed to eat corn when we eat corn it them up and they're feeding them cow brains they're feeding them their own bodies it was hard and that's what get yeah that's how they got mad cow disease what if you calf brains that's okay that's okay you my mother used my mother used to slice him thin breed them with Italian Progresso and deep fry them God damn a little bit of lemon my uncle Vinnie used to cook them on the grill Vinnie hold upin what the are we talking about brains of a cow Oh I thought you said

101:45cats cats cat I'm sorry the is going on here sorry that's such a small scoop a cat I know I was like what I thought you were a cat guy what the could oh my God my mom used to slice those cat brains cat I'm sorry what the and you squeeze lemon on them and I get if I give them to you and go go ahead eat that chicken cutlet you'll go Joey these are the best chicken cutlets I ever had and I go chicken cutlets that Cal's brains yeah prob throw yeah cow Del it's good man it's really don't feed it to another cow there a thing called prons and those are what the problem is and these prons here's what's really crazy it's almost like Nature has a foolproof way there's Cal's brains Nature has a foolproof way of making sure it you up with these prons cuz these prons can exist at a thousand plus degrees for a long time so you can't cook them out like they they exist at a temperature way above

102:51anything you're ever going to expose your food to and they can ex I think find out how long prons can exist at over a thousand years it's something stunning like hours hours at a thousand degrees so you're not going to kill them so if you got them in your food if you're eating and where they found this also not just in mad cow disease but in New Guinea in cannibals when they find cannibals they exhibit the same sort of neurological issues where their whole body starts shaking like with Jacob's Crux feld's it's it's like a lot like Parkinson's it's like they start shaking it's a it's a neurological disease that those prons from eating brain matter from human beings it actually gets into your system and just you up apparently you can eat meat though you can eat like human meat it doesn't do anything fine yeah it's human brains that's the real issue it's just

103:42who the is eating human brains a lot of people man I mean there was one of the the best evidence uh best pieces of evidence that human beings um Homo sapiens prayed on deander tals was Finding neander tal brains or skulls with their brain scooped out they had scratch marks on the inside where people were scooping out the brains they had spoons they had rocks they had whatever the they could use to scoop stuff up but they're scraping you know when you're get in a brain there's that connective tissue is the that all goes wrong when you get knocked out too many times and that connective tissue is this fibrous Matrix that holds the brain in place and they're scraping that away with a rock a gel that covers your brain it's there's fluid but there's also like tissue there's like maybe it was raccoon scratching you no no it's tools it's like deep bone scratches narly

104:32raccoons well they they've figured out they they know the difference between what the characteristics of of of predatory stuff like like an animal that's like gnawing on Bones and real obvious slices that came from like a like a tool like when when human beings made those Flint tools and like that so they've done enough of those tests where these archaeologist olist can examine these Flint marks on Bones and with a very high degree of certainty tell whether or not someone's using a flint tool on bone whether or not they're using you know it's one of the more interesting things about Egypt in fact because there's some artifacts in Egypt that are so perplexing when I had John Anthony West on the podcast he and I had some conversations about it was really interesting because they don't know how the they carve these things out there's these there's some vases Vas vas um that they made out of

105:25stone that exhibit like looks like someone cut him with a diamond like some Diamond headed drill like they don't they literally don't know how they did it because it's missing all the characteristics of uh that you would normally get from someone making something like this like the the hole at the front is too small and it goes inside and it's all smooth inside it's like how the did they did this CU they did it all out of stone they carved it all out of one piece of stone so they can see stuff like they found some other things different holes in things that they're pretty sure like some they use some sort of a if not a Diamond Drill like some kind of a drill with an incredibly hard tip but so they know they know that people were eating neander tall brains which is up up that's up but it makes sense you know I mean we know the Donner Party they ate each other and

106:14they knew each other they ate each other how about that movie alive remember that plane that went down in Argentina yeah dude you get hungry you do whatever the you got to do to stay alive that movie was bro imagine if we go down the plane everybody started looking at me and like dog Joey got some good ribs I wonder how long it takes how long did how many days of no food does it take before you start looking at other dudes and you're like damn yeah like like his shoulder starts looking good well it's also like if you were with your friend and you were like trapped somewhere you would have to think like okay if if I eat this dude I have to live with that for the rest of my life like even if you guys Drew straws like you said okay one of us is going to live one of us is going to die if I come up short I'm jumping off this cliff you climb down the bottom and eat me

107:08like you get you make an agreement like with someone who's so gangster they actually fall through that some some Matt Brown type some Matt Brown type character right so if you did do that like you probably were going to die anyway eventually and then but on your way you'd be so ridden with guilt and even if you made it even if you you made it home You' still be thinking you'd be for the rest of your life like what kind of a life do you even have now that you ate your buddy that'd be a good time to know Jiu-Jitsu right in a plane crash and your you're trying to survive up in the mountains there's 20 people after a while you just put a little you can't do no Jiu-Jitsu if you ain't eaten don't they say after 21 days without Foods when you start getting up that's that naked afraid 3 days with water one without food right yeah well you're up pretty much right away but your body goes into a

107:57state of ketosis and it eats off as much fat as you have the more fat you have the better you know we don't think about that with our carbohydrate Rich diets look at this what are you showing me Jamie survival is the last resort the case of one group a drift in a Lifeboat 116 passengers 116 days passed without food before the party turned to eating human flesh in most cases anything even remotely resembling food was first eaten dogs candles leather shoes and blankets are all consumed first before cannibalism becomes the only recourse for survival leather shoes they eat shoes and blankets yeah blankets they eat it oh Jesus dark you what you do is you rear nak a choke one dude and just say hey look you had a heart attack and then you always have another body and you're in charge of that body you keep telling people if you choke him out if you choke him out his body goes into then

108:50the meat's going to be tough whatever you know what I'm saying it's like when you shoot a deer the wrong way so you got to let them die of natural causes then the meat's tender then you cut a little slice off a leg your Jo's like I'm aging him you got to AG me you got to be thought you were going to kill this guy no no no I'm killing him with kindness yeah you got to kill him with kindness cuz if you stab him then the meat is gy gy now bro uh my buddy called me did some guy go see you in Colorado he invented a a bullet that as soon as it hits the duck it has marinated in it what have you heard about this I swear to God it has a marinade so like ter something for duck that when you shoot the duck as soon as you hit it the marination goes in it I swear to God that's so that's so ridiculous yeah something crazy I don't think that would work he hit me up and I go he's in

109:41Denver this weekend go see him the marination goes bad the thing about Marin rotten yeah that's a good point too I don't know what the it was it was marinade or salt PE Marin salt pepper was here and we're in a fix you got to keep the bullets in the freezer I think God sounds like a bad business plan though Joey huh it sounds like a dude is high on meth and comes up with a wacky idea that's not going to sell come on Rogan I got these terak bullets bro yes what you have to do try cannibalism shoot him with a Teriyaki bullet but marinade is like if you marinate a steak you need like a pan you fill it up with marinade and you lay it in there and the idea is it's slow slowly Works its way into the muscle soaks in over like a day or two well let's say you shoot the duck he's up in the air he falls by the time you get to him it's two days later two days later

110:34let me get that sprayed though let's get the party started get the party start hey did you guys see that Crone fight yeah man it was amazing man kairi's no joke that was the first big test first real test for cron yeah why don't you see if you can find that online cuz I've only seen the finish I love the way he trapped the leg and uh caught him with kair he's trying to drop Stomps on him and stuff and he's off his back the home rising card was sick it was a great card he he pulled guard three times yeah and why not freak hey people frown upon it well he's another one but he's another one like we were talking about that's like an elite specialist in this one area you know I mean he's not fighting anyone in UFC type I mean about close I think he's 45 that was at 45 right isn't he fighting at 45 I don't know I'm pretty sure that was at 4 he no way is kir 45 that's like 55 or 7 that's Japan

111:27so he might have weighed 45 kir might have weighed 180 that a grma fight Gabby for God's sake no he's not that light 55 or 65 probably walks at 180 no yes of course of course he does Abu Dhabi 170 what do you think he walks around that I think he walks at 170 he's dude he's he has size SI he's not 180 well when we had him on the podcast he didn't seem that big he didn't seem 180 but did did seem 170 but I could be wrong yeah you know what he could be 170 175 what at Jamie what uh what Wy fought at Jamie will find out for us look at him he's got a fighter and the kid t-shirt on look at that I'm not mad at that shirt wow fighter in the kid t-shirt by the kid who Jamie young powerful Jamie um it's it's good that they had that card but didn't they have that card over three days is that what happened they had the heavyweight tournament over three days that's kind of cool right no

112:18terrible for your brain not for crocop no but for the audience it's like a festival it's like a weekend thing it's like a festival it's awesome it's really from that movie Warriors the only time that existed in real life up and this ain't the movies guys were getting up except for crocop crocop 42 who did he beat King Mo that Father Time King Mo father time that Iranian monster big ass Iranian AKA how did he knock him out caught him with the left hand oh he King Mo up with the left hand too it King Mo up with some kicks to the body ooo nasty some heat look in rying crocop can go back to his old ways yeah you know there's no usada in Japan as a matter of fact they encourage it they're like hop on Buddy's they're like what are you doing says they both weighed in at 144.5 kaeri weighed 14 44.4 so basically 145 W in Japan you get suspended for not doing steroids yeah it's round the no it's

113:14that's crazy so cron is fighting at 145 yeah he's a small dude listen how crazy would he be look that he he got to the the fight to the ground so easily by just pulling guard there's no way he was going to take him down kaaj jiri's got some serious wrestling he's a tough dude how crazy would it be to see cron in the UFC that'd be sick he's four and0 now five and you know but here's the thing tra that leg really nice that look at that look at that beautiful job Tracked Down D he trains with the right Camp to do it too yep who was he training with training with LZ Jake Shields the Diaz brothers Jake Shields Got U he lost to John Fitch yesterday pulled guard right there no problem big decision though 46 49 when he's here he lik he likes getting in this like a side guard I I call it the cliff but it's like a side thing it's it's it's a a good position to get good at oo good

114:07dexterity of that right leg look how he sneaks that right leg in and gets that butterfly under the armpit but if you go back back up a little Jamie watch how he does that he's such a how slick he is he has him right there Savage Jimmy let's get rid of that TV this week we we have this TV Classic this is right here you know how classic these images are right here dude yeah against the ropes and that look at that look at that this is like forever right here dude look at he's thinking should I this is where we saw Crone rise right here tell Jerry's no punk either yeah this is his test look I'm trying to flip over and you know what he didn't even try to take him down he just kept pulling guard on him's doing like got to the dance Kelly jury tried to kick him in the face from there and then he went how did he get his back here it's edited a little bit compilation yeah oh okay that's

114:54interesting yeah Cron's Jiu-Jitsu is just so next level in compared to these guys oh there's no close yeah when you're fighting MMA guys like these guys they're just not going to have the same kind of technique that he has you know and he's he's going to have to get there though I mean you see look that easy take down no problem I'll fight you off my back yeah the UFC right now would be a little tough for him but yeah it would be he's obviously on the right path but he can pull but the cool thing about pulling guard and having a guard good good enough to make it a good idea is you could do it at any time to anybody look trapped it again that same way he catches that leg when the guy tries to kick him and cir's a tough guy can you rewind that again let me see how he cut that leg let's see a little bit before that J before that right there right there

115:40catches it wraps it up with his legs and then uses it to sweep him beautiful was his dad in his Corner oh yeah the legend was in the corner look at this this is classic ass right here man I'm not mad at the army green glove Rising yeah that's kind of cool yeah um I just think that I just hope they don't continue with that three man Weir look at his right arm look at cir's right arm what it does right here it's not doing anything to defend look it's not really doing anything right there's in trouble it's not doing anything it's like just hanging out his right arm he kind of just look at that shot what do you do look at that shot put your hand oh you got to put your hand there's his dad both there's his dad remember that the fueta yes I mean not fueta um yeah that's a is legit man this is a big statement for cron look at him yeah crazy man and Powerful what's

116:34really interesting is if he keeps if he keeps going you know a couple more fights and continues with his stand-up training you could easily see him fighting in the UFC in the next few years easily yeah he or maybe he stays maybe he stays at ryzen and they sign him to an exclusive the graci in Asia a big name yeah he's making bank he's probably making more money over there than a lot yeah he have to go through the he'd have to go through the small uh like Titan and have to go they would sign him straight from this no no no no but before if he decided to go through the the US Route right at the beginning he couldn't get into the UFC until he had like four or five fights I I bet I bet I bet they' sign him no not right away with no fights no no Crone no they wouldn't sign Marcelo Garcia want to do why you think they would do that I'm saying Crone right now now fight he

117:22could right now oh what are you guys talking about beginning of his career before he started no no not now no I'm talking about saying is that he went this way it's a smart way to go oh yeah he went he fought in uh 1 FC I think was maybe maybe his first he fought in 1 FC yeah look we would all be better off everybody would be better off if ryzen continued to blow up if they continue to blow up it'd be just like pride in the UFC back in the day be great for everybody if they develop some sort of Fedor type character you know if someone comes along that is like a legit consideration like he Fedor in my opinion is the only consideration for not only best pound-for-pound but like best heavyweight ever that didn't fight in the UFC oh yeah he's the only one I can't think of another one I I think ryen and Bellator if if you have those three if you have those three big dogs

118:09where even if American fighters want to stay in American fight and not be in the UFC you need Bellator to develop yeah you got to pay attention to onefc too I mean that's a that's has nothing to do with Japan southeast Asia it's a whole it's a whole Franklin runs that that doesn't he he's got some job wait wait Rich Franklin no shree no Noank big executive job there oh he did oh I know that I know yeah let me ask you guys something now what's the situation with cyborg at this point the chick she's pissed hot again they're waiting for to see what the commission does what kind of suspension she's getting at least a year at least what she pissed hot for is also uh an anti-androgen it's a Dio DHT inhibitor I used to rub that in my head to prevent uh hair loss they might give init DHT and it's also used by people who take steroids to uh diminish the effects of um of like when females take

119:02steroids diminish the effect it's also uh it's a masking agent so if you you take steroids some people take that stuff as a masking agent she's 31 it's also a diuretic so it's a very weird drug it's called spirono laane it's latine lactone but it has uh many different uses if if she gets three years that's what's her argument that uh it's not a good argument okay all the arguments that she gave are not good arguments that she took something out of competition that she was told by her doctor that it would be okay when it's clearly on the usada band list it's 100% ban it's not like there's certain things you could take out of out of contest like the big one's pot like say if they catch you tomorrow and you're supposed to fight in six months and you're smoking weed like crazy they test you and they go look we got a test you go look I just want to let you know I've

119:50been smoke a lot of weed they're like Okay so as long as it's not steroids that's why Jon Jones didn't get in trouble when he pissed hot for cocaine three weeks out of the fight with Daniel Cormier because that's not in competition and it's not a performance-enhancing drug he's just partying right so what this is though is a performance-enhancing drug not just a performance-enhancing drug but problematic in that it it inhibits it's performance-enhancing in that it works as a diuretic you're not allowed to use diuretics but it's it also inhibits your um the their ability to detect steroids in you she's in trouble she's in trouble usat's going to eat her ass up and if she gets three years well here's the thing how how do she they she's in her mid-30s mids they they tested her because she passed on three World title fights they they had three World title

120:39fights lined up for her at 145 which the weight class that she asked for that she said she couldn't make it in eight weeks and so then they gave her more weeks and they gave her yeah they gave her a third test and they're like somethings up and whether or not they were going to test her anyway who knows but that's when they tested her and that's when she pissed hot it makes sense and she did not reveal before that that she was taking that and she you know the whole thing is um yeah it's she's in trouble Man there it is when I hear her seen baby that's huge there's a skeptical baby now somebody I see that everybody every skeptical baby look at that look at this baby that's so funny baby's like like what the that skeptical snake so skeptical um with with with cyborg super SK skeptical foxs have you seen the skeptical house that so skeptical and there's a

121:31skeptical Cadillac so ridic Cadillac look at the skeptical house what the look at skeptical house that's hilarious how funny is that is that a real house yes those are windows what the kind of window is that skeptical Windows do you think they did that on purpose hell no what's wrong with people it almost seems like that was an accident it's so funny but with cyborg she she gets three years she's in trouble I find that interesting too when Rhonda lost again and she's throwing shade at Rhonda i'm like you you just got busted for steroids how you so sh busted for steroids she get busted for a dihydro testosterone no no no it's not a precursor it's a dihydrotestosterone inhibitor that's what it is inhibitor yeah and to me my brain goes you're in trouble yeah we know you're in trouble she certainly could be in trouble it's one thing if she got she said that was

122:22she's got a bunch of issues because she really did wreck her body getting down to 140 which definitely does happen yeah which I'm sure and that that seems problem is when you wreck your body like I think she's saying that she takes in too much water now and her body's like trying to hold on to water and that they gave her a drug to diminish the amount of water I talked to a couple of doctors about this I asked some questions and they all gave me that snake face they like they like and they they you know her back too it's like man you don't with anything that's illegal and you definitely don't with anything that people use because they're women that take steroids even if it's just a coincidence that you happen to be you should look at every label extremely carefully no coin is that the worst cut of all time yeah it's one of them what do you mean cut but here's the

123:12thing man cut Diego Sanchez Diego Sanchez made 145 he fought him 185 and Ultimate Fighter one Kenny Floy here's the problem she deadlifts 305 pounds a couple weeks after passing on fights she passes on the fight and then puts up Instagrams of her deadlifting massive weight you're you know there was whoever the handles her Twitter account because I wrote that because me and Brett okamoto were having a discussion about on Twitter very good dude we were having a little back and forth on Twitter about it and uh you know he said isn't it weird that she's not fighting for the title and I'm like what's weird is that they P that she pass on the title fight and then post Instagram photos of her deadlifting and then she responded that it's just like what football players do when they're not in Camp you know that they're doing and I'm like what you saw that golden

124:03snitch was like what what would you say me it's not she's not writing now I'm looking at the the English is perfect I'm like this is not this is whoever works with her or her boyfriend or whoever the handles the the Instagram account I'm like that's no excuse there's a lot of Maintenance that you do that's not deadlifting 305 pounds you do that to put on Ma mass that is why you deadlift you deadlift to put on Mass she's got M Mass she's got plenty of mass she has no problem with mass you know I mean that's not what she needs if she really wants a fight at 145 lbs and she needs more than eight weeks to make the weight what she should be doing is longterm cardio I guess that's what she's doing too though Joe she goes I do that and then the morning I run every morning this though dude come the on those are those aren't as heavy as they look trying to develop that power son they're

124:52like made out of like light no no that's 300 something PBS son that's 305 lb bro that's what she's doing this is YouTube though why did she tag why did she tag Gabby Garcia that's worse did Gabby Garcia Gabby just started curling that they have the same doctor I don't know sakes like the whole thing is awful it's a awful it's awful I whoever the is in her Corner that let her post that video I'd be like hey hey hey what are you doing with your phone what are you doing with your phone you going to put that online get the out of give me cuz the golden snitch is literally just waiting if he's looking at that he's looking at a woman deadlifting 35 for reps we're going there 6: a.m. tomorrow morning yeah boom I mean look it is possible that you could get that big and that jacked without anything but it takes a long time and that's what you're doing that's what you're doing all the

125:41time if you look at some of those CrossFit gals some of those are on steroids 100% but some of them are not and you can get big if you have the right genetics and you do that kind of lifting but that kind of lifting is for people that want to put on power she's got ridiculous power cyborg has some of the nastiest power you're ever going to see in women's MMA probably the probably the most the most it's right up there with well she has the full range like she'll kick you and knee you and punch you and elbow you whereas nunz is nunz will kick you hard but it's her punches that are ferocious and Scar she doesn't hit hard in cyborg no way cyborg cyborg hits you like M Tyson with braids she hits yeah she hits girls and you see the cogni the cogut she makes world class girls look like that Grandma and Rising she's a beast monster unfortunate that there's so much

126:28controversy like I would love if there was someone like cyborg with no shade attached to it no weirdness attached to it but now she's got these two strikes against her well man a newness she has no shade she knocks girls out she just merked Misha tapate you know Karu probably the number two most famous girl of all time in women's MMA and she just merked the number one there's your star with no shade great person true that's the other thing that's happening with the youth now that they're already coming up without that Pride we were getting a lot of guys from pride in the beginning the juic is okay right these new guys Cody's and these Amanda nunez's they're going to come up straight up right right right they're going to come up the right way which is even scarier they're not going to flag they're not going to be no drama maybe I hope not but that's what I'm saying you're going

127:15to see shorter careers for sure this new Young Generation you know is uh I think in MMA you're seeing short careers anyways like like to me this this and I feel the same way as you guys do with it's sad the way Rhonda lost but it's not that sad because she had such a great run and she was a Pioneer she goes on the Mount Rushmore of uh MMA in general she goes on Mount Rushmore it's really not that sad like godamn what a iconic run man sad is like a guy like Mark Coleman or or a guy like if Mark hunt were to retire like that's sad people don't have money and fame she's set man it's not that sad she did some great she did great things man you know what's interesting what here it's going on it's like the Rhonda fans um they're not MMA fans a lot of them they're Ronda fans and so like you see how they respond to stuff on Twitter and you see like the reaction and the things

128:04that they're saying like it's very emotional it's very emotional it's also almost like they don't understand they don't understand the sport you know get back on the horse like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa the horse no listen to your mom your mom your mom's saying stop her mom's brilliant yeah her mom's her mom's brutal she so brutal she says she goes go let stupid people get punched in the face sorry stupid people her mom her mom's brilliant and and she's a doctor and the good thing for Rhonda to out all this is she's going to find out who's in her corner there's there's been so many yes man you know how it is in Hollywood there's nothing when you're on set you know how that is your agents these other people you're working with these other celebrities telling you how good you are well now when you lose that that phone stops ringing the tech stop coming everyone asking to dinner that St

128:48you're going to find out who's in your corner that's probably they might be good for now let me ask what movies did she do the last two years cuz I heard they cut her one thing down and the other one disappeared who knows who knows what kind of deal she has but things definitely dried up substantially after the Holly knockout because she's not the same person anymore the thing about all those deals is when you're a winner in Hollywood and they start throwing all these movies at you and you're some athlete that's coming over it's all predicated on you being that person that they're selling right what are they selling they're selling this undefeated women's ass kicker the likes if you've never seen before right throwing people on their head getting them in arm bars that's what they're selling well that's not you anymore now you just got smashed by Holly and then

129:29smashed Again by Amanda yeah they can't sell your acting abilities you're notan shanko did she do roadh house did she redo Road House they killed I don't know about any of that stuff I I just know to to his point where they're it's it's almost a good thing for it really is man it's not a sad story I don't find it as a sad story I really don't well it's definitely sad no she was an angel did what she had to do and she disappeared bro it's not the saddest story sheaves all that different do we feel sorry for Tiger Woods like like I said when that Foundation rocks like what do you think's different with tiger his swing no no the difference is Tiger Woods didn't get the beat out of him in 48 seconds no I know and that's fighting but what I'm saying is the their mentality changes where tiger was Unstoppable something happens he's had that he had the the Scandal but then he

130:19also had some significant back injuries correct or what okay for better example to your fight example Mike Tyson yeah that's also wear and tear too man you know ah yeah you can say that tell you why I can say that one of the reasons why is because the driver that I had this weekend in Vegas that took me to the airport was Mike Tyson's driver for 17 years he and I had a long conversation cool dude I wish I could remember his name cuz I only met him for that brief brief ride to the airport but he was telling me how up Tyson was after the Lennox Lewis fight he's like dude l Le hit Mike and Mike was up for a long time for that and you don't think that you watch a guy get knocked out you watch a guy get stopped and you know Mike was talking after the fight he was like Hey you know I'm I'm done it's over and he he stepped back but when he goes home and he's alone and the cameras are off

131:10and he's got vertigo he's got equilibrium problems and his ears won't stop ringing and his head won't stop throbbing you don't see that he's doing interviews his head's throbbing his ears ring there was no internet back then it's harder it's harder to hide nowadays you know what I mean when you got your daily thing that you do and everybody you got your followers and they all know your daily thing and you guys are doing the daily things all of a sudden you disappear everybody knows you disappear back then no one really knew you lost a fight you never really see him again like when you there's also like when you're suffering alone the only way people find out is if you talk about it like we don't know what happens to a lot of these guys after they get beat the up you know here's one Terry Edom when Terry Edam got knocked out by theel Kick Ed Barbosa the wheel kick From

131:56Another Dimension it was the first wheel kick KO in the UFC and the worst wheel kick KO it was horrible oh my God and he has never been the same again does he still fight yes he's fought a few times feel B but before that Terry Edam was a bad he was really good and Terry Edam was one of those kids that was coming up like a lot of other guys in the division you know he's looking like he might be a contender someday he's like he's slick he's got a good you know he's got a good boxing kickboxing style he's got good submissions he works hard he's a smart fighter he's a good guy you meet him he's a is a gentleman you're like this kid might have real potential just got you get hit with those goddamn kicks and it's life changing and that's that's why and to Dana's point you make as much as you can when you're there man you got to demand that's why your boy Tony Ferguson

132:44holding out being like I need more money he could get wheel kicked chance of it happening not good but he could get wheel kicked so that's why he guys like dude I need as much money as possible well against he's not going to get wheel kicked against uh he could huge right hand never Chang he beat him you know that Barbosa fight was amazing that was good fight oh turny so fun Tony Ferguson is one of my favorite guys to watch for sure oh hell yeah he's so fun he's a he's like you said he's a straight Barbarian figure it out what's going on with that cuz I saw he posted Instagram that he's in uh Big Bear uh he's in Big Bear with his family enjoying the snow oh just chilling he's not training no I thought he was going up there to train I thought it was on got hopeful not that I know of not that I know of but you know what they're trying to do what they're trying to do Aldo and

133:32nurmagamedov for a interim 155 and I'm like how do you have a 155 interim when Connor just won the 155 a week ago what about Max though what about Max Holloway he Max well he's got the interim 145 such a show and F cuz Al over Nega murd is sick sick yeah it's a great fight Aldo versus well especially when you see what what happened with Michael Johnson Michael Johnson stunned khabib you know he stung him he hit him and stung him and Michael Johnson with all due respect is nowhere near the striker that Jose Aldo is Jose Aldo's on a totally different level you think Jose's as powerful as Johnson exposive good question because he's not as big he's been fighting at 145 his whole career and he's going to be fighting a gorilla I mean they ain't nobody Russian gorilla difference between Johnson's bottom game and Aldo's bottom game assum Alo will be way better also Aldo's

134:30kicks they're a giant Factor because if you if Aldo who has amazing takedown defense amazing some of the best take down defense so he's also got nasty leg kicks so if nurov moves at him what is this who is this who's this what are you showing me here khabib nurov slams UFC for lying to the fans about Jose Aldo demands relevant fight against turn why is he saying his lying to the fans let's see let's see what he says here oh no it'll come back on this this goddamn screen dude uh it's clear to everyone that you hiding Connor from me but stop lying to your fans like I don't want fight with Aldo I'm ready to fight with anyone in my division give me relevant fight so you won't first of all take your phone away from your sister somebody somebody got this phone then making no he's definitely doing it think right the broken English is so rough but I love it it makes it more gangster okay

135:22you've never matched up what is it I can't see that Jamie this thing's in front of it oh you never matched up two guys with a nine and eight win streak in UFC never in UFC history okay that doesn't mean anything see here's the problem I see what he's saying is too expensive I see what he's saying but let me explain why he's wrong they need big relevant fights to sell pay-per-views right now that's all they care about and here's the deal the UFC was purchased for 4 billion imagine if you bought a I mean you have you own a place right you own your house you know what a mortgage is mortgages are pretty you look at them every month and go Jesus you know now if you have a mortgage for a nice house and you spend a million bucks that's a nut you got to make every month man you got to think about it you got to go okay we got the mortgages covered all right and then you move on with all the other

136:12bills right tell me about it son imagine a $4 billion house what kind of mortgage and how how do we pay the bills by doing huge fights fight so we got to figure some out interm interm interm everybody get a belt the reality is Jon Jones is suspended and Jon Jones isn't even the champ right now so when he comes back he's not even fighting for a world title unless he fights for the world title so you got to have DC has got to be healthy or you got to have Jon fight for an interim because they're just throwing interims out like they're Flyers that they put on your car when uh dudes are trying to like sell car wash two in the UFC and my brother if they don't start getting these cards selling they're going to be another season The Fear Factor going to be added on pretty soon no there's not no there's not you're going to see CM Punk for some Brad Pit just to sell pay-per-views or some I'll do

137:02something DG I don't know what they're going to do I you know who knows if I'll be there for but when you look at when you look at like the the the the title picture who like that card that they have in Brooklyn I mean that is that's a pay-per-view card and it looks like an FS1 card right now I'm sure they're going to juice up they'll get more but you better be a Die Hard fan to pay 60 bucks for that it's hard it's hard to make those cards so we I think we we kind of nailed it when we were talking about it earlier like what guys sell pay-per-views I think Woodley is a bigger star now that he beat Wonder Boy but he still wants that bigw Jo and like Dana and I were having this conversation he's like you can't have Nick Diaz he goes Nick Diaz hasn't w a fight since 2011 he can't have him step in and and just go right up to the title and though though that's what I said I said but I

137:49want to see it he goes I want to see it too but you can't just do that sell it well you well no one's going to take the sports serious if you give a guy who hasn't won since 2011 or 12 give him a title shot people fans like come on bro this you say that but I think they missed the boat if they wanted to make the big money it's Nick Diaz versus Conor McGregor he's too big brother he's too they fight at 170 oh come on no his brother was too big for his brother was too big for him you think he's too big way too big I think that talk is nonsense because Conor's a 155 PB champ Nate fought at 155 most of his career he fought at 170 a couple of times and he's undersized dong Yong Kim beat him at 170 he's a he's a legit 170 though McDonald 170 maybe but he fights 155 easy he looked great against Michael McDonald at 55 Tyron Woodley can't make 55 if his life depends on it

138:41Tyron Woodley's not making 55 he the champ can't make 155 at 170 Nate can so Nate is not a real 170 now here's your point in Dana's point he hasn't won a fight since 2011 and you have Connor your your cash cow fight this monster who hasn't won forever it's a great story it really is I love a great story Big Brother steps in come on I would watch it I would watch it man but to to your point they they have to figure something out to get these Stars it does you can't do it overnight to me it doesn't matter you put Nick Diaz for what he's done out of respect who's going to complain really well apparently they offered Nick Diaz Robbie Lawler and uh Nick passed on it that's the word that's the word behind the scenes interesting maybe maybe I'm not supposed to say that but uh I wanted to see that fight I would love to see that rematch but I think Nick wants a title

139:29fight you know I think Nick is like look I want a big big name or a title fight I love how they make these demands now he's got money M Nick made some money he's not ridiculous he doesn't spend it all well how about Nate I'm not I'm not answering the call unless it's 20 million yeah we talked about that get son we talked about that recently in the podcast I was like well let's break this down because like let's say they do a million pay-per-view buys which is like top end right there's only a few people that have ever sold a million it's like Brock Ronda Conor Z okay a million is top of the food chain so a million pay-per-view buys at 60 bucks that's you're taking onethird right off the bat for Nate it's really hard to justify giving someone $20 million for f not going to do that it's GNA be real hard and then obviously Conor could demand that Conor's like one of the only guys

140:13that can get that kind of money he's the only guy when when are guys you think eventually guys will just start doing like they get so big like Connor he just does his own show and he gets his own people to no the UFC lawyers are too good to let you get out of your contract to do that they realize that if if Nate had a legit fight with someone other than Connor that was exciting the problem is there's no one else in the division that's got that kind of Marquee value like yeah there's no one in the division that has the kind of Marquee value that if you had a look I think Nate is a huge star but unless especially now I mean after he beat Connor he's one of the biggest stars outside of that upper echelon pay-per-view like level but he's not a world title holder right now so if you wanted to really have a big fight for Nate have to have him that would work have him fight

141:01all that would work that would work that would workp have a coming back GSP apparently they couldn't work out the deal with the Reebok deal like he's got a deal with under arour he's got a big deal with Under Armour he makes a lot of money through under arm monthly yeah and so he couldn't work out a deal with uh that was worth it to him you know there was an offer on the table he didn't like it they're still talking he still says he wants a fight but if the UFC you know that now that they've lost Ronda most likely lost Ronda we don't know what happens I mean she's not the same draw anymore she definitely not the same definitely a tough sell but I mean who knows a year and a half down the line she's still only what is she 29 I think Ronda still get pay-per-views if she comes back in E for sure but it's not the same that babysitting money flows like WaterOne people will not want to watch

141:55it even more but she's not fighting anytime soon so you can't Bank on her as part of your stable so you got to move on from it if she comes great let's keep going you know what I'm saying yeah it's interesting man it's a crazy sport it goes up it goes down it moves all over the place every Sport's like this though here's the other thing when is Brock Lesnar back I mean if Brock Lesnar suspended the first of never uh that's not true when when they God damn it son listen he he only got suspended for for Chine like chopine even though it is a uh it enhances steroids um uh your recovery from steroids because it reduces estrogen post Psychotherapy for steroids it's it's definitely not good but it also exists in a bunch of different supplements like over the- counter stuff hey man are you arguing he wasn't taking no no I'm not no I'm not what I'm saying is how much time do you

142:42think they're going to give him off like how much time are they going to how many times are going to let him not do the usada test and go in there beat up a guy but no no no he will have to do the usada test again because the last time he did it they had a couple exemptions where they can get in on the four Monon thing that they built in in case they wanted to make a big fight where they could signed somebody so that one obviously blows up in their face and he's going to get suspended but how long for how long I thought they gave him a year and $225,000 fund is that what it is pretty sure okay so that's from what July yeah it's all it's all that's ractive retroactive so that ain't that long from now what's we're in January February March April May June 6 month then the the heavyweight division needs them J Jones first heavyweight fight Brock Lesnar you're

143:30welcome you imagine that fight the only problem mer do you think so yes you murk him in the grappling I think you're just completely done I think stopic would wreck him you piss that mother you pissed that off from Cleveland and he'll Brock Lesnar cuz he'll say it you better do the steroids Copic is crazy I love that miic I love him he's got that immigrant mentality bring him on give him more give him more steroid what's that born in America yeah whatever the he is but his name isoi definitely born Cleveland Ohio whatever he got that crazy blood in him and he don't give a he proved it listen he proved it with with ovine he don't give a put him in there with Brock Lesnar go ahead I dare you the head off to the Brock lar who just raged all poor Mark hunt yeah but Mark Hunt's never been the kind of grapp as is in there oh no I think Stipe beats and you know what if he punches Stipe in

144:33the face it's going to get more steam out of his ears you saw Ste him bring back Les Ain coming back Brock Lesnar ain't never coming back he's not going to come back and fight for a world title right away you don't think so I think that was the biggest embarrassment of the year that was the biggest embarrassment of the yeah that would embarrassment bro what was embarrassing just embarrassing against Mark hunt they knew he was on the juice he went in there loaded to the gills it was just an embarrassing thing it was an embarrassing thing for everybody and Mark hunt had every right to be mad they put him in there with a guy that's coming off rocket fuel that dude don't just don't E dball look at the size of his head he's taking that makes your head grow okay that's what they get the pit bulls I hope they put them against mayoi I will fly Cleveland that gum is climb

145:22climbing on your mouth paper I found this snot in my nose that was bigger than this gum the other I had to take the gum out to eat it anyway I a little thing booger oh it was so long it was like a Coke booger I got a flashback from the 80s I inhal that anyway why did you eat a booger cuz I love him E I love him from time to time I have a little pimple what the is wrong with I squeeze it and it just comes out like a stream and and it's got like a little clam I was on board with you with all the Ste talking anyway boers listen from time to time oh when you when you do Coke for 30 years it's a habit you wake up in the morning pick one out it's like a candy cane with Coke on it you inhale that it's like going to the dentist for free I will throw up on this table do you ever do this I feel listen to me well you're eating boogers let's be honest with ourselves we're all

146:11friends here that was the most embarrassing thing I ever seen I agree they knew he was on it and they put that animal in there okay and you know what man go ahead keep doing those steroids put them in the against spop whatever I love that Cleveland dude call he'll kill him he'll kill him in general I don't think they would ever be able to have him come off a suspension and fight for the title that's not how it goes uh they've done it before four billion they eat a scab off an Iranian head right now4 billion right now they're sitting there going we lost Ronda take the gum out of your mouth you drive me crazy a piece of paper give me this we lost Ronda and the only other thing we got is KH and he's having a baby he don't want to come back you know got you want to do talking about he might come back right yeah but they don't want to give him who he's supposed

147:01to fight who's he supposed to fight he's supposed to fight that kabib end story end of stories no more around no more around well let's do it let's set it up no more fight yeah I'm with Joey let's let's at this he don't need to fight Aldo he don't need to fight nobody he's number one right or is it was your boy number one Tony kib's number one okay then that's the fight enough enough wait a minute Tony was number one and then khabib came became number one why did kabib leap frog Tony I don't know who knows the rankings because he those two really he's only fought a couple times in what is he is he number one brother khabib's number one well that's the thing he did listen he's fighting now he's available today he's available today he's available for Brooklyn okay he said it when he fought against Michael Johnson he's avail for fck okay he's available for Brooklyn

147:54let's get Eddie against Rafael that's a good fight let's get Edson back in there people like watching him let's get the r there let's get we got some people here okay a lot of good guys we got a lot of where the are they why they thisy here this kid here he sells pay-per-views not 300,000 but but he's he's always Robbie Lawler that guy there is good they got Joey needs to be the Matchmaker they got it okay well no he yeah man it's an interesting situation they got plenty of good fighs they got a whole they just don't want to give us the fights we want to see that's the problem what fight don't they want to give I want to see cab that's the fight that's it end the story there's no Aldo there's no Tony Ferguson there's no babies there's no nothing but he has a b but he's he's got a baby but it's also not a big draw for him it's not a big draw for him a got three babies I throw 20 million

148:51on you the baby's wait 6 weeks but Conor's already got 20 million that's the difference he's he wants to take time he he can the birth of his his his life is more important than what the UFC wants show I agree with you but right now then may may lab Memorial Day weekend let's call abib and him khabib Ferguson Ferguson Ferguson Cerone let's have some fun get Ferguson Cerone let's have some funone is not fighting again I didn't say that but we're all mixing we're all mixing weights right now did we not say that before they want to put Aldo against kabib but no Aldo's thinking about moving up anyway moving up anyway so who gives a it seems like he's kind of chasing like a chess move like chasing Conor up wants that Conor fight he wants that fight that's that's what everybody wants to see again whatever the order is but the order that they're trying to put together is the

149:42order that I don't want to see well because they have to sell pay-per-view Joe no they're going to do this okay this is the route you the route they is they going to bring us Jo they're going to bring him back against the black dude at 170 that's the fight Woodley that's already been made at the thing that that's going to come to get watch the down watch it watch it well we just said that Woodley's going to fight bisp catch fight I know I know I know that's all great they're gonna fight watch you think that Tyron Woodley is gonna fight Tyrone Woodley that was already established in New York Tyrone woly Tyron tyr Tyron woly is already going to fight him okay that's the first fight then they're going to try to that that's the fight they're going to put there at 170 maybe in May what happens to khabib then then they're this is what see this you think going to go to 17 this isn't my decision

150:29this isn't my decision this is beyond you this is beyond me how do you know this because I already seen the setup at the New York where you blind because you didn't see what I see but I talk to them I know you talk to them but they don't tell you dick they tell you didn't know they were getting sold you didn't know until they did I understand but the problem is here that that was the seed was already planted in New York it was already planted none of you saw it what are you guys watching what seed the seed of him talking back and forth with Tyron Tyron Woodley okay that's the seed okay Jes Christ that's the seed he SMS like a zo he's going to look he's going to look at kab already at the press conference already khib he said uh he doesn't fight enough okay wa what's going on here that's that's kind Wayne's talking that's the seed you dumb that's What's Happening Here what

151:21is he saying he's just talking to him can we hear what he said I don't think so it went on and then said some said hey might said did it come out out he said something like you're lucky I don't come to 70 we can do it look at him trying to be cute with him there's a moment here there's a moment bre between tyon Woodley and Conor mcregor they are it got set up right there okay so that's the next fight guys Conor saying we can do it at 70 we can do it who the you people don't see dick because you see what you want to see that's the next fight they already he already planted the seed he's not going to fight tyr he's gonna fight Tyron and killed more time for cabib like they threw Denis cver on him when Frankie Eda was lurking when Frank they threw Dennis out available dennisa is available you know look look at the color of his skin look how ready he gets how hey he's talking

152:20it's in between he doesn't want to fight Ferguson he's not going to fight Tony Ferguson it's not cuz bro it's it's too much height and Tony Ferguson don't give a he's a barbarian backstage again who fought it that is a horrible F tremendous fight it's a tremendous fight smells like a zoo upit oh look at this they are going me let's get some volume on that can we get volume on that what back there let hear this go all the way back way back here we go Crank It Up he's setting it up he's setting up the 170 Bel woman like a woman with phone see there's eight guys there guys you're like a with that phone who crazy call there's 10 guys the look how drained Tyron looks right let rewind it again re rewind that rewind that sh sh sh what's up we need your assistance you're hear that lady Terri he just said what's up and he stared Conor said what's up he said not much

153:27but meanwhile you look at Tyron Tyron looks so drained there when he made that weight it's like right after he made the weight I'll tell you what's crazy I like Conor's chances in that fight he's going to go for three bels guys I can't believe nobody ever saw this he doesn't want he's not going to fight Ferguson because it's a it's a uh Aerosmith Guns and Roses was Aeros Smith on steroids and Tony Fergus is little Diaz with elk blood in him you understand me he don't want that kid he don't want Tony Ferguson he don't want Tony Ferguson and Dana Dana Uncle John Uncle Bobby Dana is not GNA let his his nephew fight tab okay are you kidding Conor versus Tony is not a draw it's not a draw for Conor I know he's your guy that's a big fight make Tony fight though that's Tony versus kib that's a h f why don't why don't you think they're making it Eddie you tell me why do you think they

154:27making it's not going to sell and I love these guy don't give me I'm not I'm not clowning your guy but as far as the average consumer buying a pay-per-view that's not a sell it's just not hell yeah it is I disag Conor fighting anybody is a sale con fighting a top Challenger is always a sale and Tony Ferguson but Tony Ferguson is most certainly a top Challenger when Nate Diaz fought Connor for the first time was a giant fight because Nate Diaz had a name and he's a big he's a bigger name than Tony arguably for sure not even close much bigger now after he beat him before the Diaz brothers and Tony wasn't the same as it is now it's a different it's a different thing now but but he had it because of Nick and Nick had had all the strike force success Elite XC success you know all that there a lot of TV time there Nate was The Ultimate Fighter winner Nate and then on on top

155:19of that Nick had just got done beating Anderson or fighting Anderson rather and you know Nick Nick is like a pretty well-known figure right brother they're both the Diaz's brothers are like so that's a different level but having him take that fight on short notice too but Conor was the main draw as my point Conor's the main draw but this is why Conor's not tring because I agree it's he's the main draw if you're Conor and you're his management are you going let's fight Tony who's a tough matchup but he's not as big as the name as is a guy like Nate Diaz at 55 who we're going to make more money maybe not as tough as a fight bigger name so they're doing it from a business point and that's why he's not fighting Tony that's why he's not fighting kib also horrible fight for they're going to do a Russia card and when they do a Russia card they want to do a Russia card with Connor or with

156:08khabib rather so when they do a Russia card with khabib it's most likely going to be for a title I would imagine it's a title it it all depends if Conor accepts it remember Conor has all the power might be Tony and it might be interim and apparently they offered it to Tony and Tony said that he wanted to make the same amount of money that makes which is perfectly fine perfectly fine but you know they said nope you got a contract you got to honor your contract that's at least how it's been explained yes that's how it's being explained they go no well you sign these contracts you got to honor the contract yeah but that that that only works one way that only works for the UFC because they don't honor all the contracts do they what do you mean if it works for that they can cut them they can you have a sixf fight contract youve lost two but that's in your

156:49contract cut it's in the contract that you can get cut if it wasn't in the contract there's guys who have fought and they fought out their entire contract for sure right I'm just saying remember the early days and pedroo had this giant contract because they thought that Pedro was going to be the heavyweight champ and so they were giving him like undercard fights he was making quar of a million dollars Yeah Yeah It's Tricky man because I get the idea that they would want to protect Connor um you know and and really set up the big money fights especially now because he's the biggest guy but then you got Conor who's kind of crazy and like the way he jaw down Tyron I don't think it's Conor Duna I think it's from from a business standpoint they're going what's the biggest fight po let's say you have three fights left who are the three biggest names we can fight and to make this happen so you

157:33stay undefeated and make the most money he might not be undefeated I mean he's definitely not undefeated now right but the biggest thing is the Woodley fight because that's a 170 that's 17 that's a third belt guys that's a fight if you didn't see it the UFC control shame on you if you didn't see it number two listen I'm not saying that khabib is gonna beat Connor especially after I see him talk to take the punch from Michael Connor I'm not saying Michael Johnson but the fight is khabib and then the next fight has to be Ferguson if he beats him that's the way it is where I come from Ferguson can't wait they can't like Ferguson needs a fight like in the next four or five months khabib needs a fight in the next two three months said he'll fight in Brooklyn andony Ferguson F now when he said after when you interviewed him put the Hat on your head he said he'll fight in Brooklyn he put the

158:22Hat on my head every time I know it's great I love and you don't say dick to nothing you're going to say he looks at me he shows me the Hat I I give him the nod I'm like yeah I put that on hat on I like that hat now Eddie Eddie me as me as a fan the number one fight I want to see is Tony versus kabe that's that's the fight there's not a better match up that can be made in thef I don't know about that I like uh Tony versus Connor I even like khabib versus Connor I like like like I like Conor versus Woodley I like that fight too that's the fight guys that's the next money fight but he's going to eventually I don't think UFC gives him enough power to do that they're not going to let him get that much all the power yeah he's got all the power well here's the thing about think give more power Woodley loses to Bisping if he loses his catchweight fight he still keeps that 170 lb strap that's if

159:11that catchweight fight that's just might be like what no he can't hold up two divisions it's Tyron against my boy I'm telling you they going after tyon they planted the seed right there when I've been backstage at UFC's all the goddamn don't happen like dudes aren just push away from the Russian andus for as long as they can I mean but specifically they do what they can't talk over each other no they'll do the NASA thing when they go to interview him they die in car accidents and but that's the fight guys that's the fight right there that everybody wants to see right off the bat I I I love to see Connor and khabib I love to see Ferguson and khabib but they're not going to do that right off the bat they're going to hope that they fall off a cliff or a plane goes down let's give them the money fire which is 170 can he get the third belt here's the thing he if he

160:02does lose if he goes up to tyr nothing Happ nothing happens he has nothing it's risk free it's risk free same thing with that Nate first Nate Diaz okay remember who runs this show what do you do what do you do what do you do with Tony and uh khabib they go to Bellator no they're going to get pissed off they're going to say you you we can't take this no more you're hiding this kid from us here's another thing at Bellator there's still one guy left that I don't know where his contracts at but Michael Chandler is a motherucker he is a he's a remember he beat Eddie Alvarez who was the champ at 155 you see we did do that Pitbull guy and starched him with one punch sted him dude Michael Chandler is legit as how many fights do he have left though I don't know it's interesting he was just at the UFC the other day that's why I'm saying it yeah he was in front row I was talking to him

160:47I didn't talk to him about the fight yeah he's a bad I'll tell you another guy Lance Palmer from Team Alpha who World Series of whatever he has one fight left and after that he's going straight to the UFC good luck being that what weight is he 45 can wrestle his PWS off interesting yeah there's a lot of talent coming up man a lot of talent coming up then you have some guys going to Bellator like that Loren Lin who's a monster is he gonna go to bellor they're talking he's a free agent I hope he stays in the UFC I really do paying pretty good yes they have to they have to it's the it's you know going to get over there Roy McDonald Loren Lin I don't know if Loren is on there yet but Loren the way he put away Neil Magny I was like don't go anywhere man stick around like Loren got remember Loren beat Robbie Lawler Loren is legit as a nightmare he's a dangerous

161:41Striker he's one of the best strikers in that 170lb Division and fought a good chunk of his career at 185 170 he's a big fella and and he's got ridiculous kicks he throws that goddamn oblique kick to the body better than anybody I've ever seen he pull up the fight Len Lin versus Neil Magny Neil Magny who is a tough dude didn't even have a chance in that fight he got start he beat Johnny Hendricks the judges helped but he beat Johnny HRI I had Neil winning one and three in that I think he could have been conceivably one because of having him in that triangle in the third but the first round was so loose it just didn't look dangerous to me that was like a legit loose triangle but but he still did more than I'm also bias as you might be right have to look at it again but I I saw some space I saw some space and I think the arm was is tucked in enough where I don't think Johnny was like in

162:34real trouble but he was definitely stuck think about those judges though they don't know so they see him in danger they're giving him he was definitely in some serious danger anytime you're caught with one arm in one arm out and the is is singed mhm you're you're trouble it's almost like his legs are so long that like he gives you a little extra space because his legs are so long no the problem was the problem was is he started throwing elbows and when that does like his head's right there it pushes him out that's what happens so the more you hit them the so it's like you got to you got to land a couple it's like you got to land a couple elbows and then grab the wrist and pull them back in you got to constantly pull them back in throw a couple cuz they're like this and yeah but they you're pushing them out of your remember when Anderson stopped Travis lutter that's how he got

163:23him locked Miss weight could there been a more FR Rin weight cut he didn't just miss weight dude he was the closest I've ever seen where it looked like the guy was dead watch this fight here's Loren Loren is a slick Striker but watch this oblique kick to the body a lot of guys are throwing this to the leg but Loren throws it to the body and he switches stances a lot but the way he lands it he launches you through the air with it so he hits him with that low kick low kick on the U bottom of the calf like real low is fresh is it going to happen right now it's going to happen I mean this is just the fight itself but the way he throws it is really unusual man because he'll be like from here like right there that's it yeah see is that one yeah that's rear rear push kick no no no watch watch it's an oblique kick watch Doom vers kick see that this is what it's like no no no

164:13it's not it's like this he's doing this watch it again watch it again back it up again watch this just just watch it just watch it trust me I know what the kick is watch how he does it watch watch where his heel is his toes are pointing see his toes are kind of pointing at the outside that Neil up too oh dude it's a it's a I'll show you on a bag it's a devastating did you hear Neil talk about that fight he goes I literally just overlooked the guy he doesn't get a lot of hype but he definitely should what he overlooked L yeah he go he goes there's just I don't know he doesn't get a lot of hype we thought it was going to be a easier fight than it was God well he just got off a beaten Hector Lumbard he might have been feeling his oats yeah exactly but Lin is a totally different animal he's one of the most God he's tough one of the most technical and capable guys in the division when it

164:57comes to striking look that see it again you see it again watch that again back ridiculous it's his foot is not he's hitting with the heel like this see yeah it's like this this is what he's doing see how he does that there dude come on son who kicks like that like the way he throws up back that up again back that up again look at the extension he gets watch this watch how he throws this kick this is a beautiful kick man sets it up with that and then steps in Spartan Style dude it's it's a weird kick because a lot of guys don't do it the way he does it he's stomping and John does it all the time yeah but JN does it to the legs did it a lot to Rhonda Holly did it to Ronda he turning his heel in instead of out right exactly it's like you step forward and you do this yes and it's got a lot of power do it next time in front of a bag I'll kick is born in the UFC

165:52it's not a new he didn't invent it but John have they've been doing it forever been doing it forever but they' been doing it to the leg not to this degree though he Sparta kicks his Lorenz is on another level he just is and the only loss that he has inside the Octagon at 170s against tumanov and that was a super close fight and he's not uh so he's not the only guy that ever let throw it exactly like that well he's one of the only guys I've ever seen throw it to the body and knock someone down and the way he throws it to the body just massive power and speed the way he Chambers his legs and then gets that kick to launch straight in a straight line nobody practices that right guys are doing it especially with his success copycat League you have to see it a thousand times before people like make it part of their daily routine but he's up that but again Loren flies

166:37under the radar like he wants more uh publicity did it again he did it I mean does does it from here to the body which is so crazy nasty can you imagine him versus Roy McDonald and Bellator I could oh nice but I can imagine him fighting for the title against Woodley too I want to see him at 170 in the UFC I'm selfish what's his last his record of the last only lost to tof and it was a razor close decision was that recent uh that was like two or three fights ago and he's won all the other ones he's a monster he's on a win streak yeah but this is the big win because Magny is a top Contender and he beat the out of Magny I mean Magny was never in this fight this fight was a it was like he worked him man yeah mag's really only been outclass in this Lin fight then he got outclass when he fought Damen MAA Lin throws a lot of weird too man throw like wheel kicks to the thigh dude

167:25he came into rain and everyone was like we don't know what the to do there's no me and Pat couldn't get him down his takedown defense was ridiculous his striking was unconventional he was a nightmare yeah he's got a I think a Kung Fu background I think that's where he started his uh career but you see like that low leg kick man he likes he attacks like below the knee NE up he's found a sweet spot with those B kids look at this take down defense too it speed Magny pulls guard yeah I I I bet it's interesting being a guy of his caliber going God do I go to Bellator where I make more money or do I stay in the UFC where I could actually be you know UFC champion and you know the notoriety that comes with that like it's a tough you know what I'm saying the problem is you could go to Bellator and you could chew away years of your career and no one will know who you are

168:11you know look at Diego Lima you know or Doug Douglas Lima I know I'm just kidding you know no exactly Lima's a world class fighter look at Michael Chandler yeah Michael Chandler it I mean he's better than Eddie Alvarez beat Eddie Alvarez you walk down the street but still I mean you you you look you you talk about a guy like of that caliber yeah he walks down the street goes into 7-Eleven people like well what do you uh CrossFit they don't know who he is where if he was in the UFC everyone knows who he is yeah no you're right it's it's not there yet I wish it was they get there though I don't know man they don't have pay-per-view they don't have like those and they're they're Spike TV like it's not the same it's just like what they're putting I I agree but they they've tried one pay-per-view was a terrible disaster what was the pay-per-view they Rampage remember I do

169:00remember yeah I mean it didn't work nobody bought it it's just it's there's a difference but their their ratings on regular cable are good just as good as the U what's weird is their ratings on regular cable still don't translate into stardom it's very strange well it's because and it's because I think what they've been doing is they've been getting the the older guys from the UFC where people are like oh oh yeah we he's kind of over the hill where now they have a guy like Roy McDonald right who's young and he he can be that kind of world class athlete but the UFC shows a replay of uh Wonderboy up Rory that's what they show over and over and over again and then they show Robbie Lawler knocking out Rory and they'll just show it over and over again in their highlights true till everybody knows Rory left and went over there I look I I wish nothing but the best until

169:45Bor gets like a Michael Venom page let's say he just let's if they get one Superstar like a Jon Jones who starred with them then you're going to start seeing some changes paig got kind of exposed in his last fight what happened went the distance didn't knock the guy out didn't really look that good I'm not saying he's the answer I'm saying they need a a type of guy I forget who he fought cuz the the the cha son and versus T Ortiz it'll do record-breaking it's going to kill number-wise because we know who those guys are but they're both older oh it's going to sell for sure what well it's not selling it's going to be on regular TV right it's not pay-per-view well no no I'm going to say it's going to sell ticket wise at the cuz remember remember that Brooklyn card was supposed to be at the same time as as that uh Bellator card usfc left because they didn't have a headliner for

170:29that so they left Anaheim remember that same night is that where it was oh well that's the Brooklyn card they moved that card to Brooklyn that's what happened y oh that's interesting the Brooklyn card does look like they're still working on it though I'm hoping they they could pull that it's a smart move cuz like Tito cha and we got Holly this like they do let's so that's the same weekend yep so the Tito is the same weekend as Jermaine Durand no I think they switched it but it it was the same as Bellator Bellator is January 21st on Spike oh okay so February yeah they switched it to that February now when is ver Doom do Santos did reschedule that or no well for Doom was supposed to fight Kane but Kane got pulled off the card because he up man he did an interview and said that he needed surgery after the fight and they're like what so you know Bob Baker from the

171:17Nevada state commission who does a awesome job he is not going to let you fight if you go around telling people that you need surgery too much of a liability yeah it's not it's a liability business 10 one Kane and you just can't do it he up he probably didn't think about it he just thought look I'm just going to show everybody how tough I am and go through it anyway which you can do see the thing is his back is structurally sound and doctors cleared him so if he did like he thought in his mind even though he does need to get the pathways cleared out he's got some sort of stenosis where the uh Pathways to the nerves it's irritating his nerves but he can get a cortisone shot now if he gets a cortisone shot then he won't feel it he can go through the fight structurally he's fine it's not like he's compromised he's got a weak joint so he goes it's just a little bit of pain he goes

171:59through it then after the fight he can get the surgery that's what his doctor said so that's what he was saying he just didn't take into consideration that whenever you say two things happen first of all the betting line changes you go and tell everybody needs surgery after the fight everybody's like so that gets squirly especially with Nevada they have to figure out how they how do they put this line up and second of all there's that liability thing it's huge liability and then did you see they did offer the fight of Junior dos Santos and then verdum came out started calling Junior do Santos gay what's he's like just come out of the closet he said nothing it's homosexuals but everyone knows you're gay damn son did he say that yeah went hard in the pain at JDS wow that's rough that's super rough so much and DC Johnson that's not in the Horizon anytime soon DC's just

172:44getting back to training on Monday DC had a torn muscle and he decided to opt for surgery right yeah right next to his next that so um he went for surgery on that right he had surgery he's just getting back to train but who knows how long he's out then you got Jon Jones his suspension's up in July and then Rumble said I'm the only thing I'm doing is fighting for a title I'll wait a year if I have to but the UFC is going be like no so you're fight Jon Jones for an interm title that's what I think's going to happen if DC's not ready so Jon Jones comes back in July I think his his uh suspension is up right when that July 4th weekend card comes up so he'll be probably the headliner for that that's a tough go cuz he had some ring RS when he fought OSP let's not get it twisted and Anthony Rumble Johnson you don't get any mistakes with that gentleman and also he

173:34had ring rust before the OSP fight now it's another year off that's a long it's a long time off to your point with Ronda Ronda had 411 days off ring rust is real man I don't give a what people say and not only is it real but you're not getting warmup fights like she's not fighting Liz Carmo you're fighting this killer who just fought at UFC 200 yep who's ready to go no warm-up what do you think about BJ Yer that's going to be crazy H Yer is the future scary y yaer Rodriguez is he's so Dynamic man BJ's at uh Jackson's right man you know every that's like uh that's what everyone was saying like oh BJ needs a real Camp If he if BJ went to Jackson's or if BJ went here AKA or whatever and he actually listened and he did it a little too late yeah it's weird it's never too late he's in the right camp and that's BJ pen it's it's never too late how all that is a bad but BJ you know with the

174:33right Camp just like everybody said if if he had the right Camp he's got the right camp now yeah but what happened like what happened to his body where he's going to 45 like why is he going to 45 especially as you get his real that was always his real weight he was doing Jiu-Jitsu at 47 that was always his way right but wasn't he like 12 yeah he was young as but and then remember the world he won the Black Belt Worlds at 147 he fought Mach for God's sakes like he's fought he's he's a legend I'll never I never root against BJ it's just goddamn yeah unfortunately Yer is that's a nightmare opponent for BJ the future man this is the best BJ we're going to see this is the best one that's a that's a strong statement at his age you know what I meant the best possible we can see yeah what saying we're going to see he has a great Camp he's proba shape he's sticking to

175:26around with BJ are you kidding you can't you get ate up yeah he's 38 years old though and that's 38 MMA years and 38 years old after how good is Jiu-Jitsu it's pretty goddamn good it's Dynamic and it's different he's a a mad Scrambler fly to knee bars black belt level I don't think so ground belt level Yer Rodriguez BJJ rank okay I don't know yeah find it Jamie um but here's the thing about Yer the distance he keeps that kicking distance he's soal so BJ is the quickness and BJ stands with them yeah it's the odds are not in his favor but if BJ just decides to get in that clinch and take him down squeeze him out and jump on his neck I think that's the best route not to v he's got to take Rodriguez I didn't I didn't like BJ versus lus what the are it's a legend man don't give Ricardo llamas Ricardo llamas is a bad I know so is yaer but Ricardo LL going to hurt you I didn't

176:33like that you don't think Yer is going to hurt you not the same way Ricardo is Jesus dude did you see the touchy feely fight when he launched that flying roundhouse kick to his jaw and flattened him those are good points yeah I I'm just I didn't like the llamas fight for him um I think they're both equal scary the thing about llamas is llamas has more experience against world class competition went five rounds with Aldo and was beating Aldo in the fifth round on top of him ground and pounding him he's got a nasty Guillotine too where he guillotined Bermudez cracked him with a punch and then and then snuck in that tight arm in Guillotine he's very good llamas is one of the best guys but he's also you know 34 35 he doesn't do anything for BJ that fight cuz and llamas is such a badass and he's so skilled that doesn't do much for BJ like at least Y year if he wins you know he's

177:19young that's a huge feather in his cap that makes more sense I guess but if BJ beat I think if BJ beat llamas was a big feather in his caps like Jesus he beat a top 10 Contender he's back he hasn't fought forever to us well what do you mean to anybody else like well the only thing about Yer is that Yer won The Ultimate Fighter he won the the Latin America Ultimate Fighter true Yer is a he's a he really is people hate when we say that by the way when we stop calling people that's what you guys say that's our lingo for God's Beast he's a Beast bad you guys need more adjectives need for adverbs too talk like me and my friends God damn there's a lot of goddamn good fights on the horizon there's a lot of potential fights if you're Wonder Boy wouldn't you be pissed at all this Woodley talk about Woodley fighting anybody else other than Wonder Boy no one's even talking about Wonder

178:12Boy yeah they forg Wonder need start talking to Conor oo ooh I I'll tell you what I'd watch Wonderboy versus your boy Tony Ferguson yeah but they're different fight classes well I'm on Joey Dez's train now weight classes L they're not listen cowboy has fought at 155 and at 170 the the the fight between him and Tony Henderson you guys were talking before I was seeing it explosions are going off in my head that's a great Tony Henderson or Ben Henderson well your guy Tony Tony Henderson I always get confused I did about 19 sprays did you do did you really he's been taking them non how many sprays did you take leave on me do around it's the Lord's day we got to Nowhere to be and nothing to do what the wow that spray scares me oh it's tremendous I wrote them an email they wrote me back they're nice people I got to go up to the stop get some more from them but some strong huh

179:04uh listen man you guys are talking about we need $4 billion we need fights this is it these are all the fights they're going to have to do now you're so you think they say weight classes just making the weight classes everybody has to respect the weight classes but uh go up if you want to go up if you think you could run with it run with it you gotta convince Dana the same way uh Kan convince D have some of them jambos have some of those if you're brave what are these exactly I can't see without my glasses read them to me what is jumbos it's a that's super powerful edible it's a two cookie dough truffles yeah Glen free joeyy my God Glen free get in there excited take oh my goodness I can go hang out with my friends easy hang out go find that guy who's going to suck your dick to yeah take a smell of that organic he makes them with honey they're so good how many T what's

180:00the strength death all the above read the strength of me straight to the end of the Earth PR sure it doesn't stay on there it tastes like dick tastes like dick why does it taste like dick too organic for you Joe's used to that processed sugar it doesn't say how much is in here exactly he meant there's a compl they don't even want you to know it says eat a truffle when you need a boost of energy kind of energy about that what does it say about milligrams of THD it doesn't say it interesting tast I feel like that's something you need to know right I feel like that's important on here this one says 25 milligrams maybe I give you the wrong one this seems pretty light 25 is not that bad for a guy like you that's nothing 25 Mig I waste of your time I ate 12200 last week God damn this one's 100 but I think there's two of them there there's this new edible called Moon so this is 200 if

180:51you eat the two of them listen there's a thing called Moon okay it's a chocolate bar it's dollars $10 it's called Moon I've eaten them twice how long you know me a long time 20 years both times the next day I could not go to Jiu-Jitsu I didn't do much I didn't do much the next day they're that strong what' you do I ate the whole bar and then what happened dog you got to see pictures of me how many milligrams is it 250 but they're lying to you they're definitely lying to which I like I like being lied to you I don't want to know what I mean BR I saw pictures of me it's like I got hit by numerous both eyes that pocket fudge that rocket fudge that will kill you here's the beauty that you go into these places and they have all these $40 Edibles and they have all these 10 you know this is 10 dollars you eat a half of that thing and you'll be drooling and I got a better

181:51one for you I want to drool listen to me there's one called there's one called cushy they have 50 milligram 100 and then they have knockout in the back listen to me it says it will activate in 60 minutes guaranteed okay here's the thing about this give it to Jamie Jamie you it comes in a look at that punch that's super potent the the the uh where is it not the recovery one but they've got one that is so strong and I call it transmission fluid because when you open it up it comes like a you know you you ever go eat breakfast the butter packages you have to rip them open and stick the knife in there comes in one of those and they chop it in fours for you okay me I'm a gavone I ate the whole but when you peel the top off and you smell it it's like you're walking into a transmission shop like that's exactly where is it not the hybrid not the IND that's all of TKO that's transmission

182:51fluid oh my God super potent gummy formula best for high tolerance users that's high tolerance users God oh man it's a weird time because it's all legal now now that it's legal you're going to see what these dudes can do you know because they're going to have to be held back though because I think there's regulations on the potency of Edibles now is there mhm I think you just have to let people know what's in them I think it's 10 10 yeah so you're going to just each one will be 10 like in Denver they were selling these uh like containers of 10 it was 100 milligrams and there were these gumdrops and each one of them is 10 they're pretty consistent but but not totally consistent like I ate one I was like yeah that feels like 10 and then I ate another one it felt like 40 or 50 I was like woo this one no they don't have the real numbers not if you eat I'll bring

183:44that cushy to you and I'll make you eat the whole thing and you'll go Joey that it's not 200 milligram they Li test that's the case often though I mean like it's hard to get real accurate testing and then also like who's doing the actual making and blending making it and measurements well tomorrow I pick up my shipment of anak Edibles those are my home run my shipment oh every Monday I meet yeah I meet I meet them every Monday before Jiu-Jitsu about 10:45 he gives me 100 200 milligrams 100 red ones and a couple brownies I give the brownies away to my friends and I keep those for the podcast and when I fly and like that but then you have to you get used to the same strain it's like marijuana if you smoke the same joint for three days it's not going to get you as high as the first day cuz your tolerance builds to that strain so I mix a match and the only ones that

184:34allowed in Mr Uncle Joey's neighborhood are C cushy the TKO brilliant brilliant but that new rocket pocket that rocket chocolate that dog twice I've eaten them already and I'm telling you the next day I get up I take the baby to school I ride a little bit and by 10:30 there ain't nothing going on I got to go right back to bed for four or five hours dog up the next day there's going to be a time in our lifetimes where they start passing medical psilocybin it's going to happen and when they have medical psilocybin eventually they're going to go with recreational psilocybin and when they go with recreational cocy and we're going to see a a different world it's going to be a different world but the same benefits that you're seeing with marijuana the difference being that marijuana at least when you're smoking it it's easier to regulate the experience Isn't So world changing and

185:26dissolving but we're going to we're going to have freedom it's not it's not here yet but it's here now for pot in a way that's never been before you think you think once a big farma goes 100% in on cannabis do what kind of things do you think they'll do to squeeze out the small guys cuz that you know what I mean they've already done it regulations they can make it okay now it's legal but we're the only ones that could sell they did mean you can't sell it if you're on your own that deal in Ohio Jamie hey that seems like like what's going to happen eventually the big businesses get involved they're going to squeeze everybody out they're going to pass regulations Jamie yeah they were trying to like lock down there's like I think it was like four companies that would have been able to grow and no one else would able to grow or sell I think it was in perpetuity like forever it seems

186:14like that's what what we're going to deal with I mean people like a regular person there's money involved like regular people can they make like can they start their own cigarette companies exactly can they do that right it's a good question you can't get into the cigarette company I think they they uh I don't know I don't know anything about it but I don't hear about people making their own cigarettes yeah make your own wine you can make your own cigarettes if you buy your own tobacco and you can roll your own but as far as like going into large scale production yeah you're probably right the thing the thing about the marijuana thing is like you already know how easy it is to grow you you know the fact they try to lock down and make it so only a few companies can grow it make it legal but only a few people can profit off it that's crazy and then then they make it so goddamn

186:56cheap that you growing it yourself and trying to sell it yourself just it just doesn't become an option anymore then now people just say it you know they're just going to get cheap ass weed at the liquor store at the gas station they're just after a generation or two people forget it'll be like a connoisseur thing you know you know that in the 70s 60 Minutes did a show one time and they showed that all the already in the 70s the cigarette companies already had Farms set up they were already working on the packaging oh yeah in the 70s they were already trying to legalize and the cigarette companies were already in on it right now if you don't think all these cigarette companies are setting up that Kentucky where's that weed from Kentucky that's really good Kentucky uh they have a weed in Kentuck like Alaska has like Matt newa Thunder Kentucky has like that blue grass

187:47went up there once somebody brought me that weed they're going to package all those the same way they package gold gold and you think you think there'll be a maror cannabis yeah they're already get involved I I got I got a friend we have a mutual friend I won't say his name but he he's in the marijuana business and Brian no I wish be awesome but uh he was saying that that's the issue is that those big cigarette companies are buying up so much they're making it hard for other people to get involved in yeah like small businesses yeah they already have anytime there's a something that's selling like hot cakes eventually the the the small the small man gets cut out right yeah it happens a lot certainly happens a lot whenever there's a regulations where you know they can profit and they can use their influence and over people that also could Pro the problem with pot is it's so goddamn

188:41easy to grow that if they don't do that anybody could step in but what they were trying to do in Ohio lock it down for perpetuity forever you know that these one companies could be the only ones they're set up they're setting up monarchies yeah you that's coming though that's not you we haven't heard the end of that that's coming well it's going to be interesting when Trump's the president now see where they go with all this because that Jeff sessions guy that he's bringing in that guy hates B they're not going to let these hippies make millions of dollars that's only going to last these are going to be considered the good old days they're going to wish you was never legal who knows we're going to find out it's going to be interesting Trump has said that he's going to leave it up to States but presidents always say that they don't do I mean Obama was going to close

189:22down guantan B that still open 8 years later he never even made an attempt at it I think sometimes they say that stuff they don't realize how much work goes into it right well I think they say that and then they get into office and then they they get handed some dossier and some briefings and they understand like people like this is why we haven't done this look I know you were saying you're going to close down wano Bay because it helped your campaign but we're going to get you in here and show you what the I think all those guys they didn't sit him down they knew that way before they knew what they were getting into maybe it's the only reason they were allowed to rise so high I think they say a bunch of to get into office they say whatever the they no no for sure they lie their ass off like everything that comes out of like Hillary's mouth I mean do you watch clear it was like

190:05George W bush like everything that George W bush says when he talks God damn it we got into conspiracy if you're meter doesn't go off right bro he didn't even get to the part tell him about Edmond the CIA we were talking about yesterday Ed is a CIA May that's maybe that's the key so let's end it it's uh it's 810 this is a good podcast love you man happy New Year brother good to see you man seen you a while brother thank you good times ladies and gentlemen we'll be back tomorrow with uh hash who is Fat week Tom sigura and Bert kryer weigh in tomorrow at 11: a.m. they've been uh losing weight for months now and Tom is writing # B is fat ber is writing #t is Fat Tom and Bert both started out at about 267 in that range and now uh they're they're light I can't wait to see Tom looks fantastic Tom's only been drinking water that's it he doesn't even drink soda doesn't drink

191:03diet soda doesn't drink coffee anymore he's just drinking water two my favorite people super disciplined he looks great you see the videos of his face no I haven't I just can we see that real quick before we go to go to Tom Sear's Instagram before we leave cuz he's got a real funny video we'll we'll leave it on this and then we'll show one of berts to balance it out but Tom sigur's Instagram there's a video of him talking to the cameras because Bert put this video of he ran for five and a half hours and lost like 3,000 calories cuz Bert's a Savage I mean he's a a psychopath psycho he's not the disciplined guy that Tom is Tom's more slow and steady wins the race and Bert is like I will run till I die you know who he is right now I went to his house for Christmas Eve Christmas Day with the kids MH he's uh ber rudiger remember what's that K Ruder rer remember when he

191:53was outside the sauna yeah and they were like get in there and he's like I can't right now he told me that no no Tom go to Tom told me that the next b k is going on like a he he's starving himself right now godamn look at that look how good Tom wow play that hey what's up I saw uh old fat ass BTS Instagram and all you suckers believe that's called playing catchup catchup I've covered so many more miles than you not losing this beautiful perfect beard loser has to shave the beard keep running man you should run all night I don't want to see Tom run tomorrow run every day I don't even have to run anymore I already had your ass beat he looks great man lost already I'm AE in the game and I am watching a bowl game cuz I know I weigh less than you you fat look how good he looks man look great let's go to bird here talk to Tom the other day and I told him I'm turning on

192:54the nitrous oxide to this weight loss challenge you want to see what the nitrous oxide is 22 miles God D 5 hours and 23 minutes how many calories 3,266 at an average of 4.1 this is that Mickey manal Gene I always talk about that long strand DNA that part of your brain that won't let you quit it forces you to go that extra 22 miles to make sure you don't lose your beard we'll be weighing in Live on YouTube on Joe Rogan's podcast The Joe Rogan Experience January 2nd and January 3rd tune in to find out who loses their beard I can tell you one thing it won't be the guy killing it it'll be the guy laying in bed watching a bowl game right now oh big Tommy buns I hope you got a sponsorship from Dollar Shave Club cuz I'm coming and I'm coming for your beard I love those guys it's it's hilarious but honestly it's going to be real interesting to see whether Bert's craziness can balance out Tom's

193:58discipline because Tom has been disciplined for a long time man I've I've been watching him he he does an hour of cardio every day every day he's not taking any days off he's not drinking at all cheating at all Bert's been drinking this whole time Bert's still drinking you don't think he drank last night it was New Year's Eve you know he a a couple of cocktails couple vodka sodas and he just figures I'll just find out what a vodka soda is and I'll burn that off on the treadmill yeah look at it yeah is that supposed to be water I don't think so skinny definit that a water it's kind of it's really is they call him vodka tonic or vodka soda water they call it a skinny yeah yeah man really interesting he always does his shirts with his his sets with shirt right he does he takes his shirt off like seconds into being on stage but it's funny because he's skinny

194:52or because he's fat like if he gets skinny not g be able you can't just take your shirt off and be jacked he's a big fella he put something he put a picture on there some guy wrote a comment on there I remember you had a bit about that don't hang that on the mic it makes noise oh I remember that you you had a bit about that these comments that people write where the do they get off he there was just one on there that he's just making a statement the guy's like you can't find a shirt that fits you where the do these people get off don't they have a life these people they don't that's why they're on this Instagram sad sad world to live in when you just I remember one day Duncan sent me a a thing that he did what a Reddit M and a bunch of people and they were like talking about like fat Comics that they shouldn't that when have you ever seen a successful fat comic it's been

195:43shitload of them and I was reading this going what planet are you you just dark people how about Sam Ken fat as whole career John Candy balushi you what the yeah anyway let's end this well you know what man remember when you were uh 16 you were mugging gay dudes if you had an Instagram account you'd probably be talking to th it's the same thing it's the same thing dude I I had a guy uh and it's very rare I ever get back to him this guy said something just ruthless and I was like God damn it I clicked on his profile and it's him a picture of him holding his daughter so I just I said dude dude you got a kid man I get you might hate me don't be that loser that comments on other man's Instagram page you got a kid for God's sakes and now I got to block you for being a people can't help it everybody likes to come even morons morons like to come and they can make a kid it's just a

196:36bummer that's the end ladies and gentlemen don't be a but you know what man this whole being a thing even that is it's it's it's temporary that's life we're coming to a head it's it's not far away folks there will be integration all of us will be connected in some strange hive mind and we're about five maybe 10 years away from it it won't be as simple as like send a tweet or anything it's going to go right to your brain and everyone's going to be aware that you did it and they're all going to be able to go back at you and we're going to share information in a way that's just as weird to us today as the internet was 30 years ago nobody ever thought you'd have to deal with this men back when Rick James was a on top of the world think you would had a deal look at his Instagram page like what the are they saying to Rick James we it's a weird time when everybody can

197:25just talk to you they're going to be it's going to be more than that it's the next levels go right into your brain I don't like that I don't like it either but it's happening deal with it deal with it tomorrow who is hashtag who is Fat starts at 11: a.m. Pacific time uh Eddie Bravo Matt flavor Brendan Shob that's it big brown breakdown tomorrow big big brown breakdown tomorrow you see you love you bye