Steve Schirripa

00:00boom we're live shutting the laptop I don't need that you got a flip phone I got a flip phone course I don't need a lap no no electronics today no I got a flip phone what I'm simple guy you know me a long time what what do I need I take I get text and uh make a call do you do does it like at least give you a full keyboard for text or you doing like four presses to get absolutely that's it so that way if you text me I'll give you an answer but it's going to take a while and and just give you a quick answer I can't have a conversation people do some people get ridiculous what are you up to what do I up what am I up to exactly that's why I say you want to talk like a 12-year-old girl that you call call me man what you what what are we doing I mean I'm not a teenager call me you want to talk that's what I'm saying it's good to see you brother yeah it's been a

00:47long time it's been a long time I'm really long time I've known you for a long time dude it's it's interesting to see a friend who was in um I mean you were always in Show Business cuz you ran the Riviera but to go from that to being on The Sopranos I remember hearing about it and then seeing it and The Sopranos was my favorite show at the time yeah yeah I ran it to you I think in Little Italy way back when when I was living down there so it had to be early 2000 like that 99 2000 2000 couldn't believe it it was just so it was so weird watching a guy like you all of a sudden was a just a friend all the sudden you're on my favorite show it's a strange thing to watch someone who you like who's on a show playing somebody else yeah no you know what the thing is I can't even say like you know Joe like I couldn't even say well you know it was a dream man I always wanted to do it because I never

01:38wanted to do it you know I was like screwing around you know and uh I think Pollock put me in his one of his things and Bruce B and you know I was running the the the club you know you used to work the club right the extreme comedy remember I got bummed down when I heard they were tearing down the Riviera got a lot of people a lot of people I really got sad I wish I could have went back cuz it was it was at one time was good it was really good is it gone now is it no they're knocking it down I think they start this summer I think they start soon you know knocking the thing down I saw dice in the upstairs room um like a year and a half ago or so I went down there and they were doing uh they started doing shows up there I think Amy Schumer and they did Dice and Gilbert and a bunch of people and that they used to be the female impersonator show yes yeah that guy's still around Frank

02:25Marino he's keep on going he keeps on 30 years keeps on going pictures of them they should be arrested for fraud for the pictures they're using the guy's got to be in the 70s and they no he's his 85 years old he's at least 100 years old he's got a house he's got a house like uh I had to film something at his house once and it's like a mini Liberace like like that kind of thing does what you thinking it is that's what it is I'm sure you know he also would be crazy like he had a housekeeper and he would like leave things around on purpose to see if they were cleaning you know that kind one of those guys yeah but he's still going I think he's at the I don't know the Imperial what's one of them one one of those strange casinos he's one of those but they still going and the guy still playing the the guy that does Tina Turner is older than Tina Turner well I remember watching that

03:20show once that show I watched once and crazy girls I watched all right you know there was Comics used to come in and out of there standups over the years I remember years years ago they needed a a filling I put Sinbad in there really in Crazy Girls cuz it was upstairs you know the shows were around for years and they all ran simultaneously it was the three yeah you know we had the the comedy club we had uh the caj crazy girls so it was all you know yeah no I remember it was it was it was the first place I ever worked in Vegas yeah yeah yeah we I did that extreme comedy XXX right you came in for the weekends which was great put you in the suite we do the thing I took a photo of my name on the Marquee cuz I was like look at that it's my name I had one of those those cameras that you buy disos ones that look a lot of a lot of stuff I started at the riv

04:141986 whoa you know way back when it was still like you know a one of the top you know still a good hotel you mean mob run that's what you're trying to say well not really that that kind of was gone but then you had rickless who was kind of just a different kind of mobster you know he was in Israel he started the junk bonds he was nice who is he michul and rickless he was married to P Zora he owned it when I was there so they just found a different way to skim the money you know through construction or whatever they weren't bag men it was just a different different deal like the air conditioners he bought for the new building they were from is Israel like they didn't have Parts in the United States so like all the air you know you know what I'm saying it was they found different ways but he was good to me you know he was good to me rickless and he owned the hotel when I first got there

05:03in ' 86 and Sona was you know played there in 88 '89 90 Sona was there you still had Liza Manelli playing there you had Milton Burl Sid Caesar they I mean it was still guys playing you know wow yeah yeah there was a lot of stuff came to it so you got to see all those people there I saw shacha night after night after night wow and I just after I was done work I would go sit in the back of the room you know sometimes my wife would come and you know wow and it was you know it was like no big deal after a while you know that's crazy I got a tape of him I got a tape of him on New Year's Eve I think it's New Year's Eve 89 or 90 the guys just the soundman took it it was Clos circuit remember closed circuit in the room in the just in the room and they put a VH uh VHS and you know beta Max whatever the hell it was and uh he's drunk his two tupe is kind of crooked

06:01and Joey Villa remember Joey Villa no he was a comic like a real you know the real hacky thiefy guy he was in Splash that show and so you had Joey Villa open for padora and then dreon opened for uh Tom dreon open for uh Sinatra and he did a show upstairs and downstairs he was drunk on his ass Sinatra and I I have a tape of it somewhere I still have it somewhere and uh he play he says I don't care I play up upstairs I play downstairs if they pay me I'll sing in a phone booth he didn't care you know at that point you know wow how old was he back then I don't know he just turned was it it was like 1990 so that was probably the beginning of the end right before he started losing a little he had a teleprompt on stage you know he was reading you know you know he wasn't completely out of it but you know I think he died in 99 if I'm not mistaken so uh he would forget his lyricss yeah

06:56oh yeah yeah wow oh yeah absolutely was it because he was so hammered was just no no I just think he was getting older and I think to be honest my opinion they kept him out there too long you know oh you know I think whoever the powers may be I don't know who that was I think he stayed a little too long there you know but hey to see him I saw him in 82 when I first I got to town in 80 I saw him 1981 82 883 in those days it's Jesus I mean that was something I saw Sammy Davis you know wow yeah I saw all those you know Johnny mat all those guys that were there I saw a lot of stuff that people were gone you know yeah you like caught the bridge for the last of the old school Vegas ex absolutely when I moved there it was 350,000 people well the the I was friendly with the uh Casino the Joe pesi character Tony spalatro that was his character I was friendly with that guy I was a bouncer

07:47he would come in the club all the time you know Paul ano owned the club he always give me a 20 you know give me he was giving me $20 for years what if I was a bartender he send up a 20 he was always a good guy to me now I don't know what he did what he didn't do he was good to me I didn't know the the uh I didn't know the dairo character him I never knew he was around but I didn't know him but the peshy character uh Tony spello and he had a guy fat Herby and I was there his son got married I was the bouncer at the wedding to make sure FBI didn't get into the into the wedding swear to God they had a bouncer at the wedding a bouncer had a tuxedo I was a bouncer at the wedding make sure nobody that's not on that list doesn't come in but they were worried about the FBI at the wedding they were worried because at the time there was you know a lot of you know it was a small town it was easy I

08:37mean you know they were doing whatever they were doing I mean I don't know you know I mean I was never privy to any of that but they were around how close was he to the character that Joe peshi played you know I didn't see the nastiness he peshi caught the the voice and the accent he has that the Chicago thing you know and uh I only saw him being like a gentleman you know to be honest he had kids and I mean that's all I saw he was you know he have some drinks he's in the club but he didn't do anything crazy well they always exaggerate things for shows and movies yeah of course I mean I would assume I don't know where they got it from but yeah I mean uh you know he was around he was kind of the boss in town you know in the movie he got beat to death with a baseball bat is that what happened yeah and I think that did happen I think got a cornfield him and his brother oh back

09:22in Chicago yeah but you know there was a small town there was everybody knew everybody it was two clubs no clubs no clubs at all in the casinos that was there was no nightclubs really no nightclubs that started in the 9s I think at the Rio wow no nightclubs they had two clubs in town Paul anchor own one and then there was another one like I would go to work at 1: in the morning to 9:00 in the morning and I would leave and the dance floor was packed at 9:00 9:00 a.m. wow and then people would go out from there it was just a completely different thing you know and and all the entertainers would come out you know like I mean I saw OJ and Cosby was out all the time and Rich Little and whoever was Bob Hope man Bob Hope Came in into the to the club he left the uh the the bath attended 30 cents 30 cents 30 swear to God a quarter and a nickel that's hilarious that you

10:18remember that though yeah well you know there's certain things I remember uh what's his name Copperfield gave me $2 he said hey if there's any girls bring them over I swear swear my hand to God oh my God $2 and uh he he was you know he was headlining but not that famous yet but he gave me like two bucks three bucks he said you know any girls any single girls bring him this way in the meantime I had guys giving me hundreds you know was all dope dealers you know back then it was all crazy you know did Cosby have the reputation back then he didn't have a reputation of doing anything to the girls but always chasing girls always with yeah always always always but he didn't have the reputation drugging no no I didn't know anything about any of that I also knew that uh there was a time he didn't tip you know there's a lot of these guys don't want to you know you know Scotti

11:09Pippen's famous no tipping Pippen that was his nickname yeah I heard that you know hen Michael Jordan you you know and the worst of all is Tiger Woods he's the absolute what worst Tipper and you could ask anyone that's disgusting there was a girl that I knew she managed a restaurant she was friendly with him and they would go out you know not just her and him you know like a group whatever she said I couldn't afford to go out with him anymore cuz I was leaving tips cuz he would you know I was costing me $3 $400 just from cleaning up his mess like you know oh my God yeah well how does a guy do that I don't understand how a guy becomes that famous and that rich cuz I think sometimes Joe I think guys think it's a privilege for you to have me in your place wow I think it gets to that point that's swear to God crazy you know listen when I started making more money

12:02I started taking better care of people I mean I was always a good Tipper but come on man you know you're lucky enough to you know you've done well KN going what I've done well I mean what the hell pay it forward a little bit you don't feel it that's the thing of course not absolutely I leave someone 100 bucks at a a dinner you know and you made their night yeah you know they go home and they Joe Rogan you know he gave me he took good care of me you made this guy's night this guy's probably got two k or whatever you know what I mean you know what I like to do I like to do it and get the out of there before they realize it I call it like leaving a love bomb I agree leave a bomb get out of the room I agree with you you know you got you know I mean uh you know some people I think and it happens a lot you hear it all the time a lot of athletes especially you know yeah well this the

12:49ego that's involved in being an athlete sometimes like the you know the I'm the man I can't be stopped I'm you know everybody else world I agree with it sort of breeds it but there's if you go like dealers in Vegas especially cuz everybody comes through there there's like I think it was Affleck when he was dating JLo my buddy was a crap dealer and uh he left him five grand and she picked up 45 you know in chips and she picked it all up at 500 and left 500 he left the 5,000 tip she picked it up and like what a yeah absolutely what a she stole she's a thief well you know no he knew she did it but she went you don't leaving that much oh yeah but you know you see it all the time all the time you know I remember guys that TI me years ago like way back when Tony Daner who I'm friends with I gave me $20 like in 1981 he gave me a 20 but that's like a big part of like the whole

13:51culture of Vegas is tipping well absolutely you know always has been and the thing is if you want to get treated right you need to tip yeah that's it cuz it does it doesn't even take that much Jo guys don't understand they're waiting online for 3 hours like at theet I mean why don't you just give the guy $20 $10 and you you get in the line right now well what I understand is a guy like Tiger Woods like he's not going to feel $100 bar 10 to 100 bucks that that won't but that's a character flaw man that's a character flaw that that you just don't want to share I mean that's it you don't they don't deserve it you that's what that's all about it's just so crazy to me I just don't understand that plus if I want to get treated good it doesn't matter who you are you could be a plumber from enino and throw a few bucks around and you're going to get treated like a king for the night you know

14:39what's it take well that's what that whole town is about at least it wasn't one that's what it was built on they kind of took that away because a lot of people and it started with Steve W A lot of people he was a big one he did he thought they were making too much money the dealers The Waitresses the captains in the showroom I got a 90 year old friend was the captain in the showroom during Elvis at the Hilton he was making 800 a night cash in the 70s whoa a lot of money that's what now that's probably like 8,000 and and Vegas at the time you cost it still doesn't cost uh much to live in Vegas but then it cost nothing so these guys were buying land and they were investing and and going out at night and it was trickling down money well wind stopped all that so he he's the first guy to do the numbered seating what did he I don't understand what well he did the su he got rid of all those

15:33captains matred D's waitresses you know he got well he got they they no longer when you have a show in Vegas you have a numbered ticket to get in right those people know where they're going okay all right it didn't used to be that way you used to buy you know you're going to go in and then you you tip the M yourd $20 $30 $40 and you get a good seat that's what Vegas was built on for years and years and years right he stopped all that same thing with a dealer he didn't want them to make as much so they put it on the check now they they all pull no matter whether you work hard or not so when you go to a blackjack game when you go to a blackjack game and you got a dealer that's a prick and you so this I'm not going to give her anything you don't tip her and then there's a nice guy and you say you know what he's a lot of fun I'm going to give him a $100 well at the end of the night that

16:23all goes into a big pool 24 hours a day every dealer splits the money that sounds ridiculous it's ridiculous so some guys are Slackers and they go hey man I ain't got I'm just going to go be a mechan you know I'm just going to be a robot and do what I do and no personality and lose all the flare that's exactly right that's so crazy yeah so that whole why did Steve wi decide to do that because I think he thought people tipping big making too much money money that could have been instead of tipping he'll make the money you know instead of me giving a matri d $100 for a good seat I'm just going to charge them $100 for a seat and I'm going to get the money and that's how it is now you know how expensive tickets are in Vegas oh that's awful a comedy club in Vegas cost like $60 or something does it really like the Brad Garrett Club yeah I think it's like $60 that's a

17:13nice little Club yeah and it's it's done well it's him and uh the left Factory now MH all the big ones the riv went away the Improv I just read is going away in May they've been there a long time the uh the Laugh Factory dice is doing a residency oh is he yeah he's doing like a temporary residency he's got it like blocked off some dates blocked off he'll do well he'll do well he's doing well yeah he'll do well well he's got that new Showtime show now yeah yeah he had called me he wanted me to read for for a role there which I would have loved to cuz he's I think he's funny and he's good you would have been great on that he's a good actor he's a I always thought he was a really good actor from way back from Crime Story remember that I do remember that do you did you ever see that Woody Allen movie that you did Blue Jasmine absolutely he was excellent in that movie it was a

17:57really good good actor he's a good he's done other stuff too you know before that you know I mean it just finally after all the other stuff they they uh recognized it but uh and I think his show is funny it is funny well that and so is Natasha his wife on the show she's I saw Kevin Corgan the other night in New York Kevin the plays sidekick there yeah yeah I saw him the other night ran into him well dice took a lot of for a long time and now it's finally coming around it's cool to like dice again you know yeah I guess uh why it went so bad in the first place I don't know all it was MTV and political correctness and it was just a different time you know back then like they were trying to uh get away with that they're trying to move away from that kind of humor that he was doing yeah but who's you know the thing is which you know you're a comedian who's to say who could say what

18:48on stage and what's funny and what's not funny and we could go round and round and yeah I can't make a joke about this well that's what the whole thing's about do you know a guy like Buddy Hackett and those old iics that used to do polish jokes and uh Chinese jokes and Japanese jokes they couldn't even work now no it's how it's that's out of the picture you know you know those guys used should do the accents and all that nonsense and uh you know you know you can still make fun of white people yeah oh absolutely if you're a black guy you can make fun of white people that's totally acceptable and you can't you can't make fun of black people no no even light-skinned black people have a hard time making fun of black people you got to be very careful there you go yeah yeah uh I I don't get all that but that's swung so far Joe sometimes and I'm not a political guy I think that's

19:37so broken in the country it can't be fixed well you know what it is I think is more people have opinions now more people can express their opinions now it's just a different world where there's so so much coming at you from so many different angles and then people realize they can express their opinions so many people realize that if they say something on Facebook it'll get a bunch of likes or if they say something on Twitter yeah but it's easy to do that stuff Anonymous a lot of people are anous want they don't want to though a lot of people don't want to do it Anonymous but they are they do it Anonymous point I mean there's people that could just you know you from now until forever and you don't even know who the guy is that's true but when they see it they still know they did it so that's why they're doing it they're doing it to get attention even

20:19if the attention doesn't directly come to them in their you know as Steve Shara their name it doesn't come at their name it's still they know that face 60 9 the Twitter profile they know they make that and so when they're saying something nasty about you they know that they're the one that wrote it and you respond maybe they tell their friend you know yeah there's just people people just it's it's a new thing it's a new thing to be able to reach out to people it's a new thing to be able to protest people to comment on people and to be able to organize things like very easily like if a comedian like um any comedian you know if they they say something that someone thinks is crosses a Laine they can organize a boycott they want to get him kicked off of Television absolutely I mean it happens over and over and over they're keeping these guys from working

21:05yeah keeping these guys from working for what well because they're disgusting well the Kurt chilling the the announc for ESPN then they just get fired because he doesn't believe the transgender bathroom thing was that what he got fired for he got fired for that and he kept on talking about it well you know what he had a picture that he put on Twitter that showed a guy in a dress with his tits hanging out that said under this new law this guy could share a bathroom with your daughter yeah so you you're fired for that well here's the deal whoops here's the deal um that is possible and and and someone not admitting that that doesn't help anybody I mean it just doesn't it doesn't help a it doesn't help a goddamn thing yeah that's that is possible like you could get a nutbag who wears a dress and wants to whip his out in front of women and says he's a woman that that

21:54is a real thing like you I'm not saying that it should yeah I mean I'm not saying that that's the majority but we got to Define what's a woman and what's not a woman like if you're going to allow transgender people to transition and become uh the other gender whether it's woman to male male to female you you got to we got to make some sort of a standard where we know that that's exactly what's going on and it's not just someone who's a crazy who wants to wear a dress but how do you do that it's a good question how do you do that well that's why the idea of making people go to a bathroom that is their gender what they're born with like their sex like what's their chromosomes it's not Preposterous and everybody's making it seem like it's bigoted to force people to use a bathroom that matches their chromosomes and that's kind of crazy you know and it's not saying that

22:46you should discriminate against transgender people or people who feel like they were born in the wrong sex no not at all maybe we need to have three bathrooms yeah maybe we need to have three bathroom it's probably easy way maybe it should be male female and go for it do you do you remember uh in Crazy Girls I don't know if you remember the girl that was the MC excuse me Jonna steel she was a uh I don't know she got she got a buzzard chopped off whatever that is I do remember because we met her yeah she was Joey Diaz and I met her and she showed it to Joey and Joey said it look like a bat with its mouth open oh that's hilarious that's hilarious but she was you know I was friendly with she was great she had the mind of a a guy you know what I mean she went with a lot of different guys and she was very funny she was you know she was very funny and she looked a lot like a woman absolutely

23:39if I don't know if I would have known if I would have known you know what I'm saying and this is 19 what was it7 or something like that oh even before that yeah but the B the bottom line about that kind of stuff is it's you you're not allowed to even talk about it if you talk about it you're a bigot like we we have to leave open the possibility there's some crazy out there there's there's some guys that would just decide that all they have to do to hang out a woman's room is dress like a woman that doesn't mean that there's aren't there aren't real transgenders like what was her name Jonah J J like Jonna there's doesn't like her going into a woman's bathroom F absolutely 100% but what about Joey Diaz what if Joey Diaz put on a dress I'm not joking around I mean that that is entirely possible there there's a guy that's said that he was that he he identifies with being a six-year-old

24:32girl he's a 52-year-old man he dresses up like a girl he's got he's got parents he's got a daughter he's got a family and he identifies with being a six-year-old girl I mean what when do you stop that like is everybody just allowed to play make believe cuz I understand Steve I think I'm a wolf I identify with being a wolf I'm going to wear a wolf skin everywhere and I'm going to lift my leg to piss on fire hydrants just like a dog that's what I'm saying I think it's so everything's so broken Joe it's crazy it's it can't be fixed I think Colin George Colin look at this guy meet the 52-year-old father who identifies as a six-year-old girl God this is not a joke I mean people are out of their minds and the thing is so look I can't deny I was married I can't deny I have children he says well then you're a father what whatever happened to loving yourself what ever happened to that wasn't that

25:23something that was preached for the longest time love yourself for who you are don't try to change yourself don't look to get your chin shaved down your eyebrows raised and your nose I mean this the whole plastic surgery world now right true true the whole PL plastic surgery world at some point a lot of these girls are going to look exactly the same cuz you see some of them now just regular girls don't you see them listen there's there's a lot of old ladies in my neighborhood that are monster face is what I call them they get that rubber face absolutely you know when they they shoot the um fillers in there and the whole face swells up and it looks like a monster it's just they look alike immobile kabuki mask the thing is this you know how do you look and you you know you look yourself in the mirror and you go you know it's dismorphia looks pretty good Hey listen

26:11how many actresses have ruined their ruined their careers because they changed their face oh quite a few quite a few well the I think the problem is they think that they look different than they look you know and they think that it's going to work they think it's going to work and then everybody else sees them and then they see everybody else sees and go oh my god what have I done yeah Jesus Christ it's dysmorphia it's the same thing anorexics have it's same thing bodybuilders have where they think that they look normal and they're gigantic they think they're too small you know it's body dysmorphia that's what it is people are crazy I don't have to worry about that Jo you're all right dude you've always been fine it is what it is it ain't going to it is here we go but that attitude of it is what it is is really what we should all have well that's that's how look when I

26:55was younger I was in better shape you know I played ball I was an athlete in college I gained weight you know I got blade as much as I wanted for for when I was young and in Vegas and all that and then I gained weight I try to watch but what it is I'm not going to change the way I look like I'm going to be a leading man it is what it is that's it girl says you want makeup doing a show it does it really matter yeah it's just the idea of you being better looking because you're less shiny you know it's always been bizarre it is what it is I'm not an anchor man they they have a lot of makeup you know you ever do a talk show you're looking at the guy you're going can't believe how much makeup this guy is they cake it on you know yeah there's a lot of those shows where they they literally change what they look like like if you look at them in real life you you look yeah they tell

27:41you you know well HDTV a lot of that up ab a lot of people I mean even myself I can't I don't like to watch myself I'm doing Blue Bloods now I'm looking at myself I'm going my head I got I just got a big screen 65 in and my head's giant it's filling up the whole 65 in what is Blue Bloods Blue Bloods is a CBS it's a 1 hour uh drama Tom celic Don Donnie wallberg oh you're working with Tom celic yeah I started in October it's a really good show it's a next to there's two shows left Friday night I got a big one I joined in October it's a it's a really good show and I play a DA investigator so I'm on the other side of the law you know oh nice and uh it's really good the writing is really good you'll be surprised it's a network show and it's really really it's been uh they just got picked up for a seven season what's Tom celic like you know I met him twice I didn't work with

28:34him CU I'm work with Bridget moam mostly was very nice came into the trailer she's great great she uh he came into the trailer he said you're doing great work thanks for being here shook my hand a few times and I haven't seen him you know everybody kind no because it's kind of the way it's worked so far is you know I worked with Donnie Walberg once who was a great guy and then I work with all the time I haven't worked with anyone else you know other guest stars but it's been it's been good you know it's shoot in New York all over the city so it's like the city's like another character you know it's shot and every burrow so you living in New York now I live in New York I live downtown yeah I've been there I sold my house in Vegas a few years ago but I've been there with my family since about 2002 do you like it yeah I like it not too crazy the it's a little crazy it's got the the basio is

29:26a piece of garbage he's a bad guy just a bad guy yeah and he he put the city in the toilet and there's a lot of homeless but he got rid of the big gulp yeah but that yeah but you know that's that's to the other but Joe that's to The Other Extreme now this guy's a jackass I mean this guy wanted to separate the city between the cops and and he did it he's a bad guy this guy you know just and now he's under investigation for what campaign fraud and all kinds of the FBI came in so I like it it's crazy but it's great there's always something going on it's vibrant I like Southern California you know I'm looking you know rent a place here too also but I like it that I like New York you know I got my friends are there I'm from there you know it's it's not it's insane that you know you've been spent time it's crazy people I don't know yeah I looked at a place there for a while a while ago like

30:18maybe two three years ago I thought about I just had a wild hair across my my my kids were born there you know both of my daughters grew up there I mean my kids were born in Vegas but they they grew up there in New York and my wife was born in Vegas and she loves it there it's I mean if you've got some money it's not the worst place in the world to live you got to have money you got to have money because it's ridiculously expensive well it's changed too it's become like Bankers like a buddy of mine was talking about that it used to be uh Judah you know Judah Freelander yeah yeah Judah was saying that it used to be like a lot of artists but now can't this is the problem it's in 20 years when like the rent control expires and people's you're going to have to be wealthy to live in Manhattan you're going have to be literally wealthy so all the kids that want to become comics and artists

31:04and actors and dancers and they get out of high school and college can't afford to live there unless they have Rich parents or parents that could help them they can't afford so they're living in bedy and other neighborhoods which it's good for the neighborhoods cuz they're changing but they living four and five to a two-bedroom apartment yeah a buddy of mine got a place in bedste because he was working for a production company in New York you can't do it any way he said they they started uh cleaning the house up and they found out all that paint in the house was lead yeah and and he had a kid he's like we got to get the out of here like this this place has toxic paint so you know you got to go further out to Queens further out to Brooklyn you know where it's still affordable but you know it's an hour into the city that you know by train but if you could

31:47look I live in Manhattan I bought a condo years ago a three-bedroom you know I got a nice place if you could afford it it's great but at some point if it doesn't stop places are out of business stores guys you had a business for 30 years you know the lease is up he's gone yeah you know it's just everyone's a a greedy Pig you know well it's just the whole landscape of the city is changing and when I talk to Comics they say the audiences are changing too it's like you're dealing with like Wall Street people or like your I don't know yeah I haven't been to a comedy club in quite a while I don't I you know I don't know that uh you know I mean you got what Carolines and uh Gotham well Carolines is really tourist trap and you got Gotham it's a great Club I mean it still has great acts but it's not like they don't do like it's not like a big local scene you

32:36know you've got like the stand is like a big local scene the seller you know You' got you've got a lot of clubs where Comics work out at but Carolines is more of like uh who you know like someone's out of town they they go in there and they do a weekend there headline it's right in Time Square you know ex you know I haven't you know I'm not privy to that you know but it it's uh you you you can't those kids that want you want to be an actor you better have a rich mother and father when I serious I lived in Newell cuz I couldn't afford to park my car and I needed a car for Road gigs yeah but it was not I mean it was was ridiculous back then it was expensive when did you live there I think I moved there in 91 or '92 somewhere around there and I I lived there I lived in New relle I kept an apartment there for 3 years so 90 till till about 9 some around 95 is probably

33:29that apartment's worth it's double now no don't know it was a small little shitty place in a weird neighborhood you know because it's just gotten way out of control and these landlords and and I tell you that the Blasio really split the city I mean I I'm I'm not just saying I'm not I don't get into politics I don't know that I think that was his intention you know he's big friends with Al Shar and all shop and sometimes I wonder if this guy's running the city well what do you think a guy like that does why why do they do that do they do it is it a a political calculation like they think like this is the way to get the black vote white people going to go along with absolutely and let me tell you another thing a guy like Al shopton he makes his money by shaking people down yeah I mean I have a friend of mine who's a builder there who I could tell you flat out over the years he's given

34:15them envelopes CU you know what they do is they come they'll say you know what we got the Coalition here we're going to shut down you know going to shut your job down unless you hire 10 guys and I'm not even saying black white Spanish I'm not even saying what it is this is what these guys do and either you hire the 10 guys or they get an envelope and this what goes on this is what goes on well Jesse Jackson's been that forever hey Jesse Jackson and this is a fact uh the uh in Vegas in the 80s the frontier was on strike for like six or seven years from the food and beverage you know the waiters and the bartenders they paid him 25 Grand to march with them down the street Tri they closed his trip down 25 Grand wow people are coming up to Jesse Jackson going hey you know that's great thank you man thank you thank you you know and in the meantime he got paid

35:10yeah well that was his hustle I mean the Rainbow Coalition they come in and give diversity lessons to everybody that worked there you know they would they would have these clinics where they would teach people how to be more diverse this is what what's out shopped and done he owes taxes he owes this he owes that he's a hustler couldn't be a bigger Hustler I think he could kill somebody and pro daylight he'll get away somehow he walked in front of The Comedy Store one night he was walking down the street walking right in front of The Comedy Store and me and a bunch of other comedians just started heckling him as he was walking by did he say anything Al Sharpton get that money go get that money Al he L probably like that he's a hustler we ain't mad at you go get that money I mean he's been in the White House how many times this guy so many times I mean the guy's in the white well

35:58not only that if you go back to his history there's no white guy would have ever gotten away with that he what he did was he got into the The public's eye because of a false rape accusation absolutely totally made up story toana and he's never admitted to that no you know well it was proven I mean it was absolutely proven absolutely and then he ruined that that guy's life up there and and that guy's sued and yeah well but he still keeps he's in the White House yeah he's in the white house so you know we go on and on and on I mean that happen how I mean how dides someone not step away from that that's why I'm telling you it's so broke it can't be fixed you got to drop out of sight Joe what do we got to do I don't know Alaska I don't think that's Alaska I'm thinking Anchorage I like it up there Hawaii Hawaii is too dangerous the Sharks the waves the stor I don't know

36:46where you go anymore I don't know either but I don't want toere I don't want to be in the middle of the ocean it's just too dangerous although it has been there for thousands of years and I won't be here for thousands of years so it's it's tempting in that regard it's it's we're doomed we are doomed I don't know I like where people are so I'm thinking Montana that might be a good spot they don't give a there's not there's not many people they don't give up who It Rich Hall lives there does he yeah yeah Montana absolutely Harris Pete and Rich H oh that's right Harris Pete used to take care of his place right they live up there yeah I film something up there no they don't live together no how could Harris Pete yeah I I was like how could Rich Hall get along with Harris Pete and there there's uh I was up there it's a strange Place yeah it's a I mean not a

37:27bad place just not not for me I'm not one of them guy I'm not an outdoor guy I can't you're not an outdoor guy I can't do anything I'm not I can't change a light bulb I can't you moving your hands around I a light bulb I got to call the guy downstairs could you change the bulb I got to live in a doorman building I don't know a doorman building could you fix this that's your environment your natural habit I don't know anything I got to tip somebody your natural habit has a door man building that's hilarious I'll tip somebody to do it so uh you're making D sauce now I ate it last night and I had it today I just want to tell you it's very good it's very good good sauce no how did you how the did you get involved in making spaghetti sauce I had my buddy My Buddy Joe right uh my mother had passed away a few years ago he said let's do something for your mother come on let's

38:13do something you know he's an entrepreneur kind of guy you know and uh so we got the recipe and now my wife runs Marathon she's healthy she eats organic blah blah blah we made it organic it took a while we had to throw out a lot of sauce give it to shelters and stuff like that because it was too loose and it was you know not bad it just wasn't what we wanted we got it it's organic gluten-free non-GMO Uncle Steves you go to Uncle steves.com we sell it it's just we just got here in Albertson's V's uh Pavilion we're in uh Whole Foods Fairway uh all over the country we're in 3,000 stores there it is right here Uncle Steve I ate it IE it this morning didn't know it came out of a jaw and I'm not lying I don't need jaar sauce you know that's that whole Italian thing oh I could never and I never did just because I never did my wife would cook you know when I was a kid my mother my

39:08grandmother and the sauce is that good I mean my wife hasn't made sauce in a long time yeah I ate it last night like I said and I ate it this morning I ate some this morning I'll send you more we got three kinds I got six cases you sent me six Cas marada tomato basil did you try the Arata yet no I've only tried the Marin the AR is very spicy if you like it it's that's the biggest seller but it's hot keep it away from the kids yeah oh yeah no no no no it's that spicy it's it's spicy wow it's I mean it's good SP people like it my my kids they're my kids are 20 24 they like it they can handle it but uh not for me a while for me you don't like spicy sauce really not a spicy guy n no so you know so we're doing good with it I mean that's amazing you know that way that way we don't have to go sit in uh I don't have to sit in the waiting room in audition for you know I mean that's it's

39:59always a good idea to have alternate sources I think you know you don't remember this when you auditioned for something it was a movie uh not the same role but it was a movie and the guy Dave Sheridan you know com oh yeah yeah yeah and we were there and I I said to you who's that guy and you and I don't know who the he was the star of the movie and he heard us I've talked about I did I got that movie I did that movie I talked about that story because not not you auditioning but that whole movie story because that kid was talented he was funny as and he was doing okay I don't know what well that movie was dog and one of the reasons why it was dog is cuz all these Executives because he was funny and they they made him the star of the movie but he was a nobody as far as like people didn't know who he was they all were telling him what to do like I watched a guy with a

40:45Rolex on and expensive C and suspenders uh Frank mclusky CI that's it that's it cuz I did a movie with uh the producer I had did his movie before that uh did the movie where trying to put a hit on the dog c-spot run yeah me Paul Savino oh that's hilarious and uh then I I met you you just happened to be there and I was there and he was across the the way from us saying who's who's this Dave Sheridan you know and as I saw he was the star and I didn't know who he was I didn't get it I I I read for an attorney I think part of attorney well when I was on the set like the kid was really funny he's really talented like he's a very funny like real slapsticky big like Jim Carrey style comic actor and this guy with the Rolex and the cufflinks and the tailored suit like suspenders super rich guy right he's giving him line readings yeah that's that's I know who it is I

41:40mean he's telling this kid like literally when you come in when you come in I want you to go what is this like he's he's acting it out and he's like telling him how to do it and then he sits there in front of the camera and makes sure the guy does it exactly the way he wants her to do it and you see Dave Sharon going what the is this I can't believe I got to do this because cu the kid was naturally funny and when you got someone who's funny one of the the last thing you want to do is tell them how to be funny just leave them the alone make them feel comfortable make them feel comfortable you're talking about somebody with common sense I mean what what do you well they just have so much money they have so much money and they have so much influence and they want to they want to make that monkey dance but he I I haven't seen I don't know if he's working I don't know I haven't heard

42:18much of him I haven't I don't know but it's just like how about when he was a nice guy though was he a good guy real nice guy I worked with him I had a great time he was a real nice guy you know uh it's just Comics years ago uh the guy managers of of the club used to tell them what to how to do their act what the I never told the guy ever yeah you know never told the guy you know listen don't do there's certain things like at the riv you couldn't do like just don't knock the hotel right you know you don't don't knock the hotel don't say the whole it's a hole and this and that like like I hired a guy he he went on the radio he was saying what a hole I and I you know my boss called me and he said this guy who's this guy in the radio and I went he said he's gone don't bring him back so I called the guy he said why did you do that I gave you a job yeah now why the did

43:09you do that they think they're being cute and I don't get it so you can't you can't come back you know uh but I never would tell someone Hey Joe that joke you did you know uh that's not funny don't do that joke you know don't do that the guys are giving they were working as a bus boy three weeks ago now they running a comedy club and they're telling you what to do well people that always amaz people like that though they like telling people what to do they always have I understand that but you know you you because you got the job at the club or whatever now suddenly you're in Show Business well you again you're speaking like logic I mean you know you're in Show Business I mean you know how suddenly you know you can't make sense there's no sense in this town this is not a a sense town this is not a sense business this is a business of navigating Egos and trying to find your

43:55own voice it's nice when you navigating your own ego it's nice when you don't have to uh you know when you don't have to you know you're not struggling you know and it's okay and you can tell the guy to off and I'm not going to do that and you know what you man I'm not coming I'm not working for that money and that thing Anda you know you know unfortunately not everybody I don't have you money I have money but you know uh the you money is nice you know where you don't have to but it's hard it's hard to get to that point man it's very hard you and most people when they get you money they always terrified they're going to lose the you money so they never say you you money is wasted on the people that are afraid to say you very well said my friend very well said it's just so funny knowing you for so long and then seeing you you know doing so well now as an actor and I mean

44:46it's it's a beautiful thing it's also beautiful for me because I know that you w not you're not a classically trained actor and I've always told people it's not that hard this is not like a guy who's never done it before stepping in and doing brain surgery no of course of course but you know I listen I got the job on the PRS I did everything like opposite course I had been dabbling here and there right so then I got the job and then I worked with a coach and I still work with a coach now when I got a big episode on Blue Blood she comes over the house it's uh D you know Dom's friend Joanna bexon you know her no she that worked with a lot of comics she comes over the house I go over the lines we talk about it blah blah blah when you do that um do you do you like read with her does she read along with yeah what I'll do is you know uh you know what I'll do is I started learning the lines

45:32you know then we'll talk about it what do you think here I have my ideas already you know she'll give me some notes that's a good idea it's good to get even Gand thei had two different acting coaches he worked with this girl Susan for years that helped you get a different perspective oh you know what I didn't think of that right I didn't think that way yeah you're right so that kind of now look ultimately you get on the set you're going to do what you're do and the direct is going to hey Steve you know you shouldn't be so angry there whatever you know he thinks and the guy that wrote it you know what I mean but I work very hard at it and I worked for years now now don't forget I'm making a living for 16 years as an actor I left the Rivier in 200000 isn't that crazy yeah 16 years so and I've done a lot of this is you saying that 2000 was 16 years ago makes me go

46:21what yeah is that right yeah I left there I started on The Sopranos in 99 I I went back and forth B for a year you know I didn't quit the I did six episodes I was still at the riv what is it like that would must have been strange I was still at the riv and then I booked it for 10 years I you know I booked a Riv until 2010 Chris Rock said you're still dipping your toe in that I said why not they're paying me what the how hard is it how hard is it to book three Comics a week I could do it in three days book up six months that's hilarious you know the book I book guys that uh you know that didn't work much you know well I think your point is the really important part of what you're saying is like the getting a different perspective or a guy like gandal you would You' imagine he was so good you would imagine that he probably looked at it from all sorts of different angles yeah yes he

47:06did and you saw a lot of different colors but he you know he would work 16 hours okay 16 hour days on The Sopranos he's in he's there so I mean the guy gets up whatever time he got up then he's got to go home and learn tomorrow stuff so sometimes he told me he'd be sitting in the chair he fall asleep for two hours he wakes up she's still there just waiting for him to wake up and they're going to work on the the stuff for tomorrow whoa yeah and then and nine months of that don't forget you know The Sopranos Jo they were when I got on the show it was like eight days I came on the second season so it was like eight days for an episode then nine then 10 at the last season it was we we shot nine shows in nine months holy yeah you know it was like shooting a movie there's no commercial so it's a full hour but you know that's what it was man it was long it was like shooting the

48:00movie wow a month an episode I I the first episode was 17 18 working days lorine brocko said to me you're going to work more in this episode than I will the whole season cuz she only worked one day in episode you know she had the greatest job in Show Business wow they shot that in one day oh that's beautiful for her you know was a great part too yeah it was great you know but I I I think the the coaching wise and I think a lot of it is you know you focus you concentrate know your stuff know your lines I mean you're an actor you know know your don't come in and be like a smart ass yeah maybe I paraphrase know your stuff respect what's on the page you know that's I'm a I'm a big believer in that yeah honest Sopranos you didn't add live the word th and I'm not joking you there was a there was a time that I had to say uh I got to go and the line was I have to go and they kept

48:55correcting me and corrected me correct cuz I just you know I got to go I have to go I don't know why what where and I didn't question it you know I mean you know but that's a crazy amount of work when you're talking about with gandalfi that's really that's still with my head yeah now listen Jim was one of my closest friends couldn't find the better guy he worked Harley saw his kids you know his kid you know uh his daughter wasn't born you know uh uh while he was on The Sopranos but it was like no life you completely gave up your life not the rest of us because there was so many characters you know I didn't I had a couple episodes where I worked a real life but you know otherwise that just can't be good for your health well it was a you know a lot of guys I mean i' I've read I think Jimmy Smiths I read years ago NYPD he said he couldn't take it was 18 18 hour days yeah and yeah he

49:49was making a fortune he said I couldn't do it anymore yeah no i' I've I've had friends that have been on dramas before and there's the same thing they would tell me that I just they just couldn't do it they just they would do it and they would just they would be when the season would wrap they would go this has got to be my last season I can't do thism I mean you know it's it's a point with the money now you know the thing what what I love about Blue Bloods is there's a lot of characters so there's different stories so it's not like that it's it's it's you know great ni it's a beautiful show and you know like you said the writing's good you know Network show but you know with Jim but he worked with you know a lot of that's like a dirty secret working with an acting coach is it that's a dirty little secret people don't want some people don't want to admit I think if you're a big I think

50:32Pacino works with somebody well I don't know why that would be a dirty secret I would think that would be just practice that would be a good thing no no but I think like like guys don't want to admit that I'm asking for help you know you know how guys you know actors are you know well comedians have a thing about that with writers working with writers like a comedian working with a writer it's like other comedians will shake their head and look down on you really yeah I don't I don't understand that well you like you write all your own stuff obviously stuff is very personal yeah right but there are guys that it's impossible for them to keep riding new material well there's guys that are very personal but they have someone work like Kevin Hart has guys that work with him like he has ideas and then he bounces them off these idea these these guy These Guys these ideas

51:12off these guys and then they work on them together like he'll he'll brainstorm with guys on his act which there's nothing wrong with it Chris Rock used to do that I don't think there's anything wrong with that but then there's guys like say aleno or Rodney who I was a big Rodney Danger sure everybody there was Comics facts and stuff into him all over the place you know Leno I mean he was doing the show he's busy they're writing his monologue they're writing his stuff but not his standup like when Leno does his standup his standup is pretty much all Leno it's all him okay but like but Rodney for sure and there was a lot of guy Bob Hope Bob Hope had five six seven eight he had a staff of writers I know one of them he would pay $50 a joke and then he only TI 30 cents says but he would pay $50 a joke he's one of the richest guys ever that Bob op but he was he would

52:03ask for uh you know I need whatever whatever the event was you know I need jokes about Trump or mother-in-law or this or that or this you know I guess Comics don't want to admit to it but there are Comics that buy know not anymore you know there definitely are and there's nothing wrong with it like uh well first of all Richard PRI who's the greatest of all time Paul Mooney wrote for him forever yeah and other guys wrote for him and like I said Chris Rock who's also one of the greatest of all time Chris Rock had a bunch of writers and he's just smart he knows how to make the best comedy and it's not necessarily always just with your own mind like sometimes I think it's also hard it's not easy for someone else to find your voice right so you have to find those guys and it's not easy because see I can say hey man you know write me you know sometimes like when I

52:48have to host something like I hosted this uh thing on TV I'm not I'm not making him believe I'm a standup I'm not a stand-up comic nor I even attempt but it's more like a monologue right you know even if I have to host a charity event I have a guy writes me jokes but it's like in my voice that I would say you know what I mean and you know immediately and you know well sometimes it's not it's not a bad idea to have a writer just because you have a couple other guys that you can talk about your set with you know cuz if you're just looking at it yourself like you were talking about having a different perspective maybe even they don't write the jokes but they talk about the jokes that you've written and give their perspective and that alone will probably help improve them I agree and I think if you're doing a live show if you're hosting something whether it be an award

53:32show or whatever to have a couple guys there spur of the moment thing give you something Hey Joe here's a good line you know no spur the moment is it's very well especially a live show like a a talk show or something like that very important to have writers do you do you you like doing talk shows no you don't like it no I don't like it just I like doing this this is what I like cuz there's no format well when you do a talk show it's all set up a pre interview and they're going to I'm going to say this you're going to say that and then a lot of times a talk show host has the joke right the joke on top of your joke right he's already got the right exactly I just don't it just seems fake and forc we'll be right back now now you have to sing and dance I don't get you know you have to have to be a variety show like the the guy uh you know that's that's the new thing I

54:25appreciate a guy like Jimmy fall who does it well I think he's great at it I really appreciate it I just don't want to do it I just don't I don't want to be a guest I don't want to watch I don't I don't want to sit there I've had friends that do them I go visit them while they do it yeah yeah like I watched Conan the other day I had a buddy of mine he was singing a song on Conan I went to to watch I was like okay get the out of here I think it's a dying format I think it's a format that's like a dinosaur well I think it is which is why you see this guy on CBS James whatever his name is he's seeing karaoke in the car who this guy James Cordon is his name James Cordon they sing karaoke he's mixing it up he's doing different stuff him yeah and he's got the different artist he had a Dell he had this one they're trying to do different stuff and I think it's

55:08become more like that than just to sit down oldfashioned you know right because first of all you know and I know most actors whatever celebrities they don't have a whole lot to say right some of people like dairo if it ain't on the page this guy is stuck at hello you say hello to him he's stuck for a answer how is that possible because he's got to have it on the page and then he's a wonderful actor and he could for give you all this but if he you think he's going to come in here and talk to you like this I don't know no no hell no you never spoke to him bit of SC my my friend Joey Joey Diaz you know Joey Joe did the movie with him yeah he enjoyed it yeah he liked it well it was just an honor you know I mean you're working with arguably the greatest actor of all time not one of the top five I don't think he's you ever seen him try to do a talk show with boring look at

56:01some clips well I think he's an interesting guy you know dairo is a very unusual guy I think he's done a lot of crappy stuff and I don't know I don't understand how much money do you need that you just I know you want to work and this is what you do for a living and I get it but you know yeah he's done some shitty movies for sure yeah like really shitty movies yeah but I think that he's probably well that what was the recent one he did the temp I watched the ad and I just my whole soul started shaking like like I was freezing to death like yeah you know I I I don't know he owns the restaurants he's got the hotel in Vegas Noble he's got a million restaurants he's got the what what he's old too he owns the checa film festival yeah like at what point in time you going to what are you going to do with that money when you die maybe he just enjoys doing shitty movies well I

56:49don't think enjoys shitty movies I think he enjoys doing movies I'm not to say that there's a whole lot of great roles for cuz like you said he's 70 something years you know Pacino seems to navigate them better yeah well sort of he does some shitty movies too but I think these guys you know they get up in age and the the roles they don't get offered the best roles and then something comes along and it's not that good but it's a lot of money and they H it who cares and they just do it and the other thing is a guy like Pacino he has so much leeway cuz he can kind of do whatever the he wants same as as dairo like what was that one movie dairo did recently there was uh it's the name of that movie the movie with Bradley Cooper and Jennifer Lawrence it was a big movie and dairo played am hustle yes he was good in that so he still got it he still got it he

57:41can still do it and and seem like like a really dangerous it's still possible yeah it's just he does those those those roles don't exist that often no it doesn't and as you like you said and as I think as you get older too yeah and and physically you know you change you know just like just like a guy that was this wonderful leading man in his 30s you know now he's a bloated guy in his 50s you know what I mean he can't be the same guy yeah bloated you know right Val Kilmer right like that kind of thing yeah I worked with him how is he he was nice but out there he's out there I did a movie in Detroit with him he was way out there I don't know if he remember he likes the mushrooms maybe he was on him that day course uh we shot a movie uh out there and he was way out there he was Heavy then yeah and he did something in Africa with somebody and they said he got whacked out on

58:32mushrooms while he's there running around a campfire lions in the background oh yeah I didn't see that but he was in Detroit and he was you know nice enough but well he was in that movie the ghost in the darkness remember that no no Michael Douglas and him they're they were lion hunting in uh Africa they were working on a railroad it was a great movie and these two lions teamed up and started killing the railroad workers is it older yeah it's like uh I want to say like 90ish early early 90s wasn't that his prime though right when he was Batman yeah it's a great movie the ghost in the darkness him and Michael Douglas I got look for that Michael Douglas before he got cancer from eating remember that I don't believe those days believe that I don't know for me is the only guy in the world that I know of look everybody's got to be a first yeah there it is that's the ghost

59:22in the darkness movie that's when he played uh uh Jim Morrison too oh yeah yep yep same uh era same time yeah I think that guy got too much lost his mind decided to try to eat himself to death and it just didn't work out and then he stayed alive and then had to lose some weight back you should have him on the show I would love to I'm sure I would imagine he wouldn't why wouldn't he come out I would have booze everywhere I would just say let's just do this come on let's start drink you know what I think he did one of those autograph I think he did one of those autograph shows autograph shows you know the autograph shows they have like uh like Chiller theater in the Hollywood show where you sell your autographs really and I think he did one and he made like 100 my friend of mine told me he made like a 100 Grand like he had the line was you know so he just sat down

60:08and signed sat down and sign that's what you you know you've heard of these things I'm sure you've been offer that I that never gets to me you know oh well that probably gets deflected but uh uh they they just had one they had one in Jersey you know where they had like Eric Estrada the other guy from chips the other guy you know or Good Times yeah you know they have the cast and you know there's guys from my show have done it I I don't want to do it I've never done it I personally feel it takes a little piece of your soul when they walk by you and go H do I want to buy Eddie moner's picture or bobie bakala all right I'll go with Eddie I think that takes your soul Joe it's got to it's got to take a chunk I mean come on well I just also think that making people pay for a signature is crazy yeah you know I'm with you I do got to admit it's a little annoying when you're run into

60:56those guys at the airport and they got a stack of they want you to sign 10 of them and they want sell them well that's that's not a fan that's you know what they're doing they're selling him or they're they're wholesaling MH to another guy you know they just up the ladder like maybe maybe he says all right Rogan's going to be there I'll give you $10 for each most of the time I'll just sign one and this one guy was giving me a hard time I go dude I'm not working for you yeah do you understand I'm working he go he's like I took a train here I I go dude I don't give a I didn't ask you the only thing is for me sometimes it's easy just sign the things I don't even want to have the station yeah sign the things and move on you know well you know I mean you could do it real quick but the whole idea behind it is weird he's like getting you to do something then he's

61:39going to sell it and then they're going to put it on eBay or whatever they well they have the same standard stuff they have a microphone they want you to sell some of them have an MMA glove they or they want you to sign MMA glove they want you to sign pictures it's I'll see pictures and I see pictures and I go where'd you get that I don't even have that you know I don't know they yeah they get well they they get them and then they know where you're going to be well a glove with your signature that would be worth something I guess probably like five bucks maybe probably cost you more in gas to get to me and get the picture I ran into a guy once that had fake uh a guy emailed me um and he said hey is this your signature and it was a news radio script with all the cast members I go not only is that not my script all those scripts all those signatures are fake All Andy

62:23Dick cuz I knew Andy's signature he had a very distinct signature and Phil Hartman had a very clean distinct signature I'm like these are all fake yeah I saw one we we did this uh a poster from SAR fish andado magazine that was floating around we all signed them you know we used to sign a lot of stuff at the end of the read-throughs for The Sopranos they would have a stack of stuff for for charity and whatever to sign and I it's hanging in a restaurant in New York on 50 uh on 6th Avenue it's not my signature wow it's hanging up it's it's you know like seven of us but but it's not my signature how crazy is that someone's got a fake signature hanging up on a nice restaurant Bobby Baka with a fat fake stomach it's from the days when I wore the fat stomach oh they made you put like a prous on for two years yeah then I got fat enough on my did you get fat enough just so you

63:14don't have to wear that thing no no one day chase you know I I you know when I first got the roll I was seeing all these jokes like your cows on with legs and your fat and you thing and I'm going I'm not that much fatter than G theeni I was starting to think that maybe they cast the wrong guy I'm not joking I'm saying could it be I mean these jokes don't make sense and then they called oh you got to come in for a fat suit so I wore this ridiculous thing then the second year they made it like a really nice one like a costume like a costume shop it had like tits and everything and uh a costume shop in like a Broadway costume thing and uh and then one year I was going back and I was at of fitting for the the fourth year you know like the the next year and uh he looked at me and he went you don't have to wear that anymore I said all right so I'm assuming it was pretty embarrassing

64:08at first at first I was prancing around they had an ass on me too like a big ass put a fake ass yeah and he was going too big and I was like going walking back and forth like par Jesus Christ it's humiliating Steve Landsburg remember the comment he said to me did they ask you a permission to do that and I said no Steve I wouldn't have did that I I wouldn't have got the job you know that was a weird time when The Sopranos came out because all of a sudden there was like a lot of fake mob guys a lot of fake connected guys a lot of fake Italian you know what I mean they're still around I call a gig Guinea act's Guild gag but you know what I mean it's like that acting that way became in fashion they started they they used to hang around wherever we were they were around extras there was they're still around but there was you know we did an appearance in the casino we just to do a

65:01lot of that stuff you know they were everywhere they were everywhere they were hoping to get on the show hey come on you did the show I could do I could do the show I remember Michael Imperioli one time we were up in uh Reno and there was one of them guys and he was playing Blackjack and you know and he said come on put me on a show I could do what you do I Michael just went off on him I've been trying for 20 years years you know blah blah blah been acting you you know I mean he got he he hit Michael and Michael was right he got really pissed off this is just one of those Goombas you know and I could do what you do you know oh they're the worst exactly this like this there wannabes but there's something about guinea wannabes there's a lot there's a handful out here oh yeah there's plenty and the thing here they congregate together yeah when they try to like clang Hey Joe

65:51you're right you're me and you we together what's the last name Rogan how come you got Rogan what the I kind I kind of try to navigate away from them oh they're brutal even even in New York I kind of that's not my thing you know well Sopranos was so good that it almost killed the mob genre you know I think so I think you're right about that because you know what unless and I get a lot of scripts Joe you know of that crap you know they make these I call them backyard movies you know you're never going to see them you know whatever they're getting paid I'm not interested cuz it's that same I'll you I'll break your ass you know who I am you know who my uncle is it's like a d marera sketch absolutely but it's true but they write this and I say how does people give them the money how do you get the money to make these movies well I think for a while people were making

66:41them just because Sopranos was so popular but now unless you're going to beat Sopranos Good Fellas you know what's the great mob movies so you know Sopranos Good Fellas Casino uh ra uh Raging Bull had mob elements right great movie uh what am I missing there was uh there got to be a few of them you know some great you know great great mob movies but now after The Sopranos I mean you don't see you know the Godfather Godfather one to you know there was some but you're going to have to beat that then they tried they tried to do some Mobby stuff uh I I ra Donovan's working that's a good show that's a good show but that's from an Irish perspective well I think what happened with those movies was or or uh that show rather is it it was those you had a movie every week exactly so like every subject was covered betrayal gambling Mur it was funny funny elements it was very

67:41smart that was something you know I would go I would be around and people go I don't like that show you're on I'm a TI have you ever seen the show have you ever seen the show no I haven't seen it's like it's I ask somebody I I I don't I don't watch porn I hate porn have you ever seen it no well then how do you know you don't like it or did you see it or do you watch it you know what I mean but they're holding signs of but no porn well that was a big thing right the Italian American blah blah blah Society was protesting against it tell how about this story I wrote a kids book Nicki Deuce okay uh it took place in Brooklyn and we turned it into a movie for Nickelodeon you know which I we did it's one of G the fing last movies and I had Michael Imperioli in it and cero and uh uh and colodium made the movie but when I was when I wrote the book I was doing book signings and you know it's

68:31about a kid Fish Out of Water who goes back to Brooklyn he grew up in the suburbs and he winds up with uh kid tyan neighborhood Benson nurse in Brooklyn and he gets into some Mischief I don't even call it trouble but so this guy kept writing uh letters and and killing me on the internet and writing letters to the bookstores ahead of me getting there you know like saying that he uh you know derogatory against Italians and he's uh now he's bringing kids into it blah blah blah blah blah so finally I get the guy's number and I call the guy I swear to you I say to him listen I think his name is I think his name was Anthony I said listen Anthony blah blah blah blah blah this is the world I know like rappers rap about what they know this is what I know you know and uh he said to me I said you know uh what can I do tell me what I can do let's fix this I mean cuz you know you know you

69:28you blah blah blah blah blah he said well you can make a donation to my organization it was the Italian American I said you got to be kidding me and I hung up on true story tried to shake me down and there's a whole bunch of when the movie came out we got some heat for the Nicki Deuce movie really and it's not really about mob it's you know they just want attention I mean exactly you know and they did that with the Sur but people say all the time you know Joe uh yeah I don't watch the thing I'm an Italian you guys talk bad about Italians no they didn't they they they showed what really was I thought it was very authentic you know oh well The Sopranos is as authentic as it gets if you know anybody like that you know those people exist absolutely and I to pretend they don't exist is offensive exactly and I think it was a story that need to be told I don't think we putting Italians down

70:19this is what it is well was such a fascinating show because gandalfi was a bad guy like his character but rooted for yeah you're rooted for a bad guy Mur rooted for a murderer who cheated on his wife stole Rob shook people down absolutely but he was your guy he was I think the first I I think I could be wrong the first like Anti Hero that people rooted for on television I think you're right I I I can't imagine before that it was you know you root for the guy you know he was a real anti-hero I mean Mur murder a con man I mean all the above stole they didn't just do it to people in the mob they did it to people you know like on the show they wasn't just within each other yeah they went outside they were robbing people and and busting up uh uh you know businesses and doing all the stuff that they do yeah it was great show was good very smart it was a very smart show and if it if they

71:16put it back on now they would get higher ratings in some of their shows now I I bet they would it's well it was so good I think a lot of people forgot how good it was and it also changed a lot if you go to the first episode the first episode was essentially like a slapstick comedy you remember that no I know you remember Lorraine Brock not lorine brco uh who was the woman that played uh his wife Edie Falon Edie Falco Edie Falco had a machine gun and like the the the daughter was trying to sneak out she's outside with a machine gun pointing at her it was way more slapsticky it was weird it was like a comedy well they shot the uh the show aired in 99 right I think they shot that like in 98 if I'm not mistaken really if I'm not mistaken in '98 I I believe or 97 even they go back and then it took six months and then they started shooting them you know how how David

72:10Chase did it he didn't do it like a regular show where you shoot it and then in three weeks it's on the air you know he put them all in the can they were finished and locked and you know you know what I mean like you know you finished your your whatever it took nine months and then he edited them and blah blah blah blah blah and then they aired you know it was done a completely different way wow you know also they would uh they would you know if they didn't like what you did I mean he replace you and you never even knew it really yeah he replace you you know like uh I I had a scene with a guy and they call back you know a month or so later and so you got to shoot the scene again with a different actor for whatever reason whether you know the guy didn't do a good job or uh he looked too young or too old or just didn't fit he had the he had the uh capacity to just shoot it

73:08again if if a scene didn't work he rewrite the scene you shoot the scene again you know three months later what's interesting about those kind of shows too is that they're so big and so popular that you become that character whoever that character is you become that guy and you're that guy forever well that's of course I mean that that's part of the deal that's okay I had no career before that so it's not I'm not saying with you but I'm saying like there's some people that like you've worked since then and you'll continue to work but there's some people that were on that show that were really famous when that show was on the air and they vanished yeah yeah yeah well you're in the you know you got people all over the world watching it I mean I've been stopped with people literally from all over the world that have watched the show it it was like a cult hit like

73:52nothing that ever hit before like big big for the rest of yeah yeah you know but Vinnie's also he he Embraces that too you know what I mean he Embraces that for him and it works and right he's okay he works he does his things no he's always going to work he's a very good actor and he's got his music he's a musician and stuff but I I hear you you know especially the name big that was a big thing people like to say that yeah yeah they do like to say that but also his the you know the scene in the movie when they kill him like the whole the whole way it plays out it was very intense it's was like whoo I can't believe they killed big well that was the Big thingo Al it was the first time uh too a regular cast member gets killed I mean they're not killing the you know uh the guy from friends you know exactly David schwimer Ain getting killed you know oh one you know one Friday night oh my God

74:41they killed David shrim there five friends now you know so that was a big character that gets killed and then big character just kept getting killed which is why guys were worried I mean there was a real concern that you were going to get killed off the show the more material they gave you yeah the more of shot you're getting killed you know yeah yeah I mean you know and let's not kid ourselves it's not just you know you're out of work they just put you out of work in the biggest show like when when gandalfi killed imper only I was like whoa holy pinched his nose there what like what but you know what once you made it into the last season it was like Hey listen you know you know we're done you're paid however the story ends it's probably better if I would have got killed early on I would have felt really shitty I'll tell you and saw all the stuff that happened cuz you know right

75:34you know what I mean and plus you know we didn't we started making money towards the middle and the end you know not the guys at the beginning Wen making a lot of money well those shows are hard to make money on aren't they like HBO is n they don't worry you know HB pays and they pay now even better and the show's off the air nine years wow no you you know we wind up you know and then there was other money coming in cuz you had opportunities to do other you know well that show was also groundbreaking in that it was one of the first shows like that and now HBO specializes in those kind of shows and so does AMC and so does Showtime yep I mean you know it all kind of came from the soprano is the first time they they're hiring you know a fat bald guy you know Jim was an leading man you know I mean they they wanted you know you figure the good-looking mob guy you know what I

76:24mean but he was intense and charismatic and what a actor the girls loved him I you know we used to joke you know they say TV puts 10 lounds on you I say it takes 50 off you well he was just it was such an interesting character he was so intense and like when he got into that murderous rage like you bought it hookline and sink absolutely when you acted with him you didn't have to uh you know you didn't have to act scared like if it was a scene I got to be scared you got to yell at me you know you was you know he gave you the whole thing you know we had that fight you know me and him had that fight in the first episode that last season I mean you know what did we shot that for a day and a half whoow that was tough he was choking me he said listen you know let's try to take this as far as we can and we took I was pulling his hair he was choking me that I was

77:17getting cut from the I was wearing a you know necklace you know I was getting cut from that I mean we were banged up wow banged up for real and that's why it looked real it was like two fat out of shape guys fighting I mean they don't you know guys it's not Steven Sagal where you know what I mean you know look you you you know what the hell this was like a fight like a so when you do something like that like how hard do you hit each other you know as hard as you you know you could without really hurting and he had said that let's go as far as we could and we were you know how saying pull my hair pull my hair you know he pulling his hair and and he's choking me go ahead go further you know you know like I said we you know we're good friends you you know if you do it with a stranger it could get a little funky you know what I mean like hey well you know you know I had a fight

78:07scene on TV once I accidentally punched the guy in the face I I meant to miss his face but I they threw a drink in my face and I was supposed to punch him but I was supposed to like punch by him I hit him right in the jaw and he go did he go down he went like but I didn't I didn't hit him hard but I hit him you know and like you can see the look in his face like you weren't supposed to hit like keep just keep going yeah and you know I had to apologize and it was was he okay yeah he was okay but you could see his you know when someone especially if you're not used to getting hit on the jaw and you see that that that the the shock and the Sparks but fight scenes like that like your fight scene with gandal or you know some movies you watch people punch each other and kick each other like that guy just hit that guy like that sometimes you know and look I think it's I know there

78:51was listen guys on the show smack me really smack me Jesus you know they want that you know hit me you know you know you know I've seen that on a lot of stuff that I've done and then some guys don't want no part of it no way no how but go ahead smack me you know get the makeup girl and cover it and smack me again you know you want that real reaction yeah it's like eating eating on I'm a big believer in eating you know I know you get sick of eating but eat that I'll eat that you know steak yeah in a show in a movie you know so just keep bringing steaks out bring it out I'll just keep eating it and not not because I'm a glut because I think it looks real I mean not little bu you know if you if you noticed I'm a little cookie so I notice like that look they didn't really eat that you know yeah well that's the worst is when you see someone who's eating a half eaten

79:41steak and then the next cut it's like a quarter eaten steak three4 eaten what would you put steak back you know what's the worst thing and I don't smoke and I've never smoked cigarettes you know uh you see people smoking on TV and they can't smoke well they don't know what they're doing I know exactly I I wouldn't know I mean what what is the I mean how don't know do you you you don't smoke cigarettes no but what would be the difference I don't know there's a thing hold it in your hand do you smoke I think it's a casual thing you know it's like you like how comfortable are you with it I know but you see people that aren't you know like I've been asked I said I'll smoke a cigar which I don't even do that but I could handle I could handle cigar seems like so unusual that anybody could do it yeah you know a cigarette you see people you go this guy's not a smoker you know yeah no

80:31cigarette smokers do get crazy about that well there's certain things like here's the one that drives everybody the most nuts that's a musician when you see someone fake playing a guitar like someone's really jamming out and you know they're not really hitting any the know it's like what is he doing don't even show his fingers you stop it oh a guy's trying to cook or something you know this things you got to you got to do your homework you know yeah I would imagine the guitar one would probably be like the worst cuz cuz there's so many complicated movements and if you're like a person who actually knows how to play and you watch it you would know that it's fake fighting is that way too though like you watch fight scenes in movies when you you know like a boxing scene you know yeah like Mark Wahlberg I think he's a very good actor but that movie The Fighter where he

81:12played Mickey Ward yeah like I'm watching him I'm like this is this is a guy that's not getting hit like he's boxing like no one's hitting him back what do you think about like the Rocky movies terrible the with the the the fight fight SC are Terri they're terrible they're the worst they're they're atrocious there's one movie one guy but they're great movies as far as like look when I was a little kid I saw Rocky and I drank a raw egg and I ran around the block I'd never run in my life I mean unless I was playing baseball or something I never ran but that movie made me go running I wanted to go running yeah thing you know so it wasn't it wasn't that they were bad movies but when you watch the boxing scenes you're like get the out of here well the ra ball that was good that was good that was good that was Cory Cory Griff down to the it was well he recreated

82:01essentially what happened with sugaray Robinson and Jake lamano but the but dairo was a meticulous in those days I mean what look at the kind of shape he got in for that movie mean he looked like lamada I mean he looked like a real kill all those days are over ridiculous days are over now he's doing and the temp down spring break spring he had no showard spring break oh you know who did the best boxing movie though Daniel de Lewis he did that movie The Boxer he apparently lived like a boxer for a whole year for that movie although he does that kind of stuff right yeah and you watch him box though like he's boxing like a boxer he's not boxing is that what it's called the boxer yeah yeah it's called the boxer he plays an IRA guy that gets released from prison and goes back to boxing oh really mhm that's good very good very good he uh uh my a buddy of mine was on in the uh

82:53Lincoln movie and he stayed at Lincoln as Lincoln for all that time yeah character and he was whittling and thing I swear then he somebody said that he cut his uh he sliced his thumb yeah and somebody El uh Let There Be Blood oh and he got got annoyed at that I'm sure he did cuz he stays in character the whole time I guess unless he had a he ask for you know to cut that what where he he is above and beyond that's the guy that loses him him Bale they lose themselves in the characters a lot of people play myself included you know I'm not going to play an English Professor you know what I mean Joe I play a blue cuddle guy you know whatever that is but some guys and those are two of them they just completely disappear Gary Oldman in the day Gary Oldman and Kevin spy used to a little also True True Romance when Gary Oldman played the uh the white guy with the dreadlocks the scar in his face

83:50completely but those are the four that I really you know you know what I mean the four guys that you say it's a craft you know I mean to hit that level it's a whole another different level it's a different level and then you see successful actors play literally the same person over and over can re what did you just say yeah but he's good at it I'll tell you I like J Parker plays the same thing you know that and that and that and and that's okay she's successful and whatever yeah well there's a lot of actors when you go to see the movie even though they're good you want to see them play that character you know like Christopher Walkin I'm looking for him I work him I want him to be that guy I want him to be that guy but it's gotten sometimes it's almost a caricature now you know you know I did uh I I've worked with him twice he's a good guy he's well how about alucino

84:43every movie has to have a rant there's got to be some way there every movie he's got some crazy rant where he's got to go on this rant I mean it's in the script there was an old letan clip that I saw I just saw it like yesterday the day before Kevin spacy doing Pacino to Pacino really look for that it's really funny he does the thing you know it's really funny Kevin Spacey's a bad on that Netflix show have you seen that Netflix show no I don't he's very good he's a big fan yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he well that's something it's interesting that Netflix is doing stuff like that they're put they're putting out their own original con different different business model there it's a whole different deal you know what I mean they're not so or I don't know how many people watch it don't watch but uh that's a huge show what the is it called again the the the the Kevin Spacey thank you how can I

85:34not remember that he doesn't speak he talks low sometimes want does he have jump in he'll jump in if he wants to does give a anything goes he doesn't give a uh but I just like that they can do that now they can produce their own content you know they can do anything listen it's it's the way it's going have you seen that Bill bur show F is for family yeah did Bill ever work for you no but I I you know I hosted a thing at the Garden last year Garden the dreams uh 5,500 people it's a kids charity it's a good one and it was Bill Burr John Oliver LS black Dane Cook and Billy gell and uh I met Bill he's a funny guy he's a great guy he's funny and he's a good guy gu he's a real good guy he's a good guy I asked him uh what you see is what you get he he's really funny guy I mean uh and you know what I had seen him on another charity The Comedy Central that thing and that's the first time I had

86:31seen him but he's been around right yeah yeah he's uh he's he was makes me laugh out loud there's not that many Comics that make me laugh laugh he's one of the best ever he's a Boston guy yeah there's not too many guys you by the way he bakes a hell of a pie oh really yeah pie baker he makes pumpkin pie it's delicious really good he gets into it he makes his own CR got to start selling sell him sell him I'm already getting get trouble cuz I'm I'm late all right brother I ran this it was great seeing please anytime whenever you're in town let's do this of are you here often uh no I haven't been cuz I've been working I've been doing the Blue Bloods but when was the last time you were here it's been about I'd say close to a year anytime please let me know it's a pleasure if I'm in New York maybe I need to go to New York and just set up shop there in New York and do a bunch of

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