Duncan Trussell

00:02these are great mugs sweet here we go here we go again we're sober I just realized that should probably do something should probably do something to stop that while we're doing the podcast great um dude we archered today we archered I don't think that's the right way to say it we uh we arched it was so fun so addicted to it now to archery you're you're like a legitimate Archer no yeah you are you have like a full setup you do it all the time you practice in your yard you know what you're doing it's incredibly addictive man it's it's it's uh very satisfying and it's a great goddamn metaphor for everything thank you sir Duncan's doing the traditional way he's got uh the wooden Arrow shafts and the traditional recurve bow which by the way anytime I post a picture of archery or something like that you get that if you're not using traditional bow you're a py yeah you're doing it the man way

01:08well I'm traditionally missing the Target too well some guys hunt like that which when you uh I mean there's guys that are obviously way better at that than you or I yeah but when you think about like what you were shooting how you were shooting today and how I was shooting your boat today and imagine trying to hit an animal like maybe even a moving animal it's nuts I mean you're using what you're shooting with doesn't even look like a bow it looks like some something that fell out of a diamond shaped spaceship it's really weird it's a very weird looking bow whereas like my bow basic Robin Hood style recurve bow but I get it man I would not want to hunt an animal with a rer bow because it seems like it would be inhumane like it seems that unless you're if you're going to kill something be very precise about it and I'm sure people with Recurve Bows though of course if they you've shot

02:11your whole life it is precise I guess yeah they could be probably close to as precise as I am with a a compound bow but not for like long distances it's it really can't cover the same kind of distances I can shoot like we were shooting today I shot that elk Target at 65 yards and I was putting it in the heart at 65 yards that would be really really hard to do with a recurve bow really hard yeah you'd have to have a very powerful bow to do that I mean that's a big seems to be part of the problem though I you know I don't know anything about it like I I just you know I I remember after the last podcast we did you show me your bow and then that kind of floated around in my head a little bit like man that'd be cool to start shooting then I've you know now I have a yard so the other day I went out and was like doing yard work like you know like raking leaves and weed eating and all

03:06the I hated man stuff I hated when I was a kid but now it's the it's the best something clicks inside of you where it's just like this is all I want to do I just want to weed eat I just want to it's like that's that's being in your 40s is where you're like I was like vacuuming up the leaves like the leaf blower you could reverse it and suck sleaves into a bag and it's just like my God this is heaven well it's your place so when you have a place and it has a nice yard you know like lawn maintenance and stuff like that has always been something that men get into you know it's why they're always yelling at kid get off my lawn you know me people like that old man gets mad when you're on his lawn well you're messing up his art his precious art his Zen sand castle you seen that Zen sand box thing that people do where they just home the sand perfectly yeah yeah now that's very

04:02interesting you know that that process of like being in the moment and then you know doing anything in the moment is incredible but I've I've I spent a long time not going outside enough and that is a really awful thing that can happen to you where you just forget about outside like outside is the place between your house and your car or your car and your office and that's outside but and so when you're not outside and you're living inside the artificial cave you're cutting yourself off from a very specific field of data that starts teaching you if you're out there in it at all for any amount of time it's it's a narcotic it's like out this is I've been inside so much that I feel when I go outside like I've taken a vicin in or something it feels that good is this like during the dark days of video game addiction oh yeah man yeah this is a yeah it's yeah video game addiction

05:03internet addiction just a general feeling that that the outside is just you just don't do it you're just in too much you know so that I think it's a so many people are afflicted by this that you get so disconnected from this Rhythm that's out there that when you finally start feeling it again it's like eating something when you haven't been eating in a long time or you just want to stay out there and feel it so I yeah I got the bow because I knew it' put me outside more you know I got to let these people know that we're live I didn't tweet it give me one second here but um what what made you decide to get that kind of a bow like did you have someone help you did you go to an archery place or how'd you do it yeah I went to an archery place um and the and the guy you know the guy show me compound bows but you know as far as I'm concerned if if you're not shooting a

06:00recurve bow you're not really shooting you're not a man you're not a man so no I I just the compound bows man that's a commitment it looks like too much of a commitment there's too much going on there it's a serious thing it looks like it's for hunting I don't intend to go hunting I just want to stand outside shooting and with my little poodle sits by the pool and watches me and I just shoot arrows and it's a blast I love it but so this guy this kid uh who's like a AR arched who's like done archery his entire life I know nothing about this thing but I hope I don't seem like I'm an expert on it's like two week two week Obsession so this kid is like explaining it to me about uh you know the difference between a recurved bow and a compound bow and he said basically a compound bow everything's better than a recurve bow but a recurve bow is a great way to learn so I get this recurve bow the

06:59little bastard sells me the wrong arrows which I didn't even find out he sold me compound bow arrows and so like I was shooting with those for a while and each of them would be precisely off in the exact same place because compound bow arrows are they're plastic vinyl whatever that is so when they hit the bow they at least when they hit a recurve bow when they hit the arrow rest it throws them off in a specific way whereas feathers are more pliable this is what somebody explained to me after I went back and bought sense these other Aras but man it's it's it's an addiction it's expensive you keep wanting to buy and add stuff on to it and upgrade it's really really fun though well the compound bone is even more addictive because there's different kind of SES and different kind of rests and there's dropway rests and there's whisker biscuits and there's all these

07:52different whisker biscuits yeah it's like a bunch of different fibers that your arrow sits on so instead of a rest this so like a lot of people a rest it's called a dropway rest meaning as you release the arrow the cables and the strings to the rest are attached so as you drawn back yeah the rest is up and your arrow is sitting on the rest as you release the rest drops and so the arrow takes off on the string without the resistance of the rest being there that's cool it just launches it in the air that's a whisker biscuit so that's the kind where it's B bunch of fibers which over long period periods of time can like long distances can slightly affect the amount of feet per second not much but like two or three second two or three feet per second over the course of like 40 yards or something like that which is you know you're talking about the difference between like 288 feet per

08:47second 285 ft per second like it doesn't matter it's still insanely fast and Powerful so that's some some people like that kind that whisker biscuit kind but mine is the one that drops away it's so cool that this thing is evolved to this point that's amazing right it's crazy now all the different Evolutions that the bow has had from the moment somebody realized if you take a tight string and put it between sticks and pull it back well you know yours is a recurve and a recurve is a totally different thing that's that was like the original compound B it was the original technology CU they figured because of the curve of the way your bow is designed that you can generate much more power that way the kind of long bows that was the old school kind that you see in like the Robin Hood days and like that but the recurve was like the Mongols like someone around that time

09:39figured out how to make that and they made these bows with um insanely powerful wood and they used animal horn and all kinds of other and they they made some glues and one of the things with their glues was when it was raining out they couldn't fight right their bows would fall apart right it was soaking it was pouring rain they had to get the out of Dodge dude their bows would fall apart if the if the the paste and they have holding them together got wet right that's so weird crazy there's so many things that throughout history there's so many unknown people who figured out these amazing things like someone figured out how to advance the bow to the point that it became a long bow like someone worked that and before that someone just figured to me all of these little moments in history are so interesting and so frustrating because most of them you'll never witness that moment like

10:40the moment somebody made fire right that's a thing you'll never see that one cuz someone had to do it first now maybe people did it all over the planet at the same time or if there are people over the planet depending on which uh which uh explanation for how people got if I think Hancock believes people were spread out way before uh the Out of Africa Theory right but anyway someone somewhere figured out how to do it probably saw something happen that caused a fire and then they tried to recreate it until they were successful but the moment they were successful imagine the the look on the guy's face the first guy that figured out he can make fire on his own yeah like the first guy that used one of those bows with the bits in the teeth have you seen those where you use two hands the the real hardcore guys they use a bow with a bit in their teeth so they put the bit in their teeth and then

11:31there's a stick right then they have the bow and because of that they can use two hands so they're clamping down on the bit they go like this and you just see it starts smoking there was a guy that was on one of those crazy Mountain Men shows I don't know which one it was but one of those shows where dudes are living alone in the Life Below Zero that's who it was it was the the guy in Life Below Zero who lives by himself in like a tool shed it's like this tiny little Shack in Alaska where he's miles and miles and miles from civilization and for most of the Year this guy lives like this where he just subsists off the land by himself he just eats Caribou he has to fend wolves off of his property he and he doesn't bring matches with him because you could always run out of matches he wants to be able to make a fire consistently on his own so he brings this bit and the bow that's how he

12:24starts his fires that's cool it's insane it's super cool it's insane I have you seen the YouTube primitive technology channel it's really great a it's so badass it's like a guy I don't know where he is he's somewhere where there's a lot of mud and trees and he and he he like he shows how to construct a tiled roofed Hut just using mud and fire like he he built his own Kiln and he can bake his own tiles and whoa check this guy out it's really cool no no talking either he just shows how it's done step by step yeah but he's a badass man that guy is really cool and that kind of stuff is amazing it's it's amazing to know it's foundational you know amazing when you find one guy who's like who his blisters Jesus Christ look at his hands so he's just showing you everything that's so interesting he's not saying a word right no he doesn't say anything no it's just like here's the

13:20kind of rock you use it's an awesome skill to have it really is but you know what the problem with this kind of privative is and I don't want to sound like like I'm pessimistic but often times if it's down to using this kind of stuff I mean if this is what we're back down to we're you you almost don't want to make it I mean it's what the way the human race is depicted in that movie The Road yes is probably real close to how it would go down well look at the way life was during the black plague yeah you know it's it was like that there was a a semi apocalypse that swept around the planet and people became insane they thought ringing Bells would cure it people slide very quickly away from the land of logic and science when uh gets weird well not only that the logic the word of logic and science is only connected through electricity when the electricity goes out that logic and

14:20science goes with it and you get back the same kind of bullshitting that you used to have in the'80s when dudes are like you know what I heard bro I heard there's a base underneath the penthouse right they they could go right to the Moon bro they just press a button and shoot right up to the Moon who told you that my uncle my uncle worked for the Secret Service he's deep inside the Heart of Darkness those were the days those are the days people would just make up yeah they just made up I mean people today do not understand how much of a problem that was when we were growing up these people that would just make up crazy stories and you're like is that guy telling the truth like everybody could lie back then it was so hard to get busted you could pretend you were in Nom guys would pretend they were a nom all the time that's right they would make up some

15:02crazy fake military history yeah that was super common man no way to investigate someone super common you'd have to hire a private eye yeah especially if a guy like read a book and like knew a lot about the time period if he was a real efficient Auto yeah you know so then how much more so way way way back you know when people like didn't understand this is why magicians are so powerful back then like if you could do imagine sending just a classic Street magician back in time a few thousand years who can do that stuff in front of people who have still believe the Earth is flat but he can like you know do basic coin magic yeah that person's going to seem like a god that person's going to seem like a warlock yeah yeah there's there's very few people that are alive today like we we can I don't even think we could intellectualize what life was like back when no one could read right how about

16:05what life was like when you know before the Bible was translated back when you had to have priests do all the Translating and no one could read it yeah that was a real issue yeah you ever see that listen to that Dan Carlin um podcast on that no it's uh the rise of um Luther ISM and Martin Luther and Martin Luther being one of the first guys who translated it phonetically and that uh when he did there was all sorts of crazy chaos going on where people were all of a sudden not needing the priests who interpret the word of God anymore and you could read it for yourself and not only that he was saying this was the most Blasphemous thing of all he was saying that you could determine for yourself what God meant in these passages that it was up to like as a as a man you could read God's word and determined through and they were like what the are you saying this is our gig you're ruining

16:57this is our gig I mean can you imagine the Bible was only in a language that they could read that's right it wasn't in German yeah and so all these people like under the thumb of this weird thing that was connected to God yeah and we're you know we're still under that that thumb because the you know the Bible now is psilocybin the Bible now is LSD the Bible now where all these wonderful psychedelics that a very small group of people have controlled for a really long time but when you have a nice psychedelic experience you're reading the word of God if you ask me and it's this is a thing where um you can have a direct connection with it you don't need anybody there to interpret or translate it you just have a nice chat with the universe and there are people who want to arrest us now for having that conversation in the same way that you could probably get arrested at some

17:55point for have reading the Bible or you could worse than that you get murdered for it you if you didn't have the right credentials if you hadn't gone through the right initiation yeah same thing it never changes man it never changes anytime there's an information stream there's always a group of doing everything they can to control it always it's so true it's so true always and you know they say they will say no this is not you know the prohibition on psychedelics is not what you think hippie this isn't done because when people take psychedelics they recognize that there's some major flaws in the concept of money and maybe it isn't the best thing to sell your life energy uh for the majority of your life to somebody to make way less money than you deserve for selling the life energy of a being that as far as we know is completely unique at least in this galaxy if not in I mean

18:48planets are relatively unique so if you're a being on a planet that's aware of itself you're a pretty special thing as far as our understanding of the Universe goes so your life energy per hour is actually super precious probably a billion dollars an hour is what anybody's life energy is really worth so anyway the whole point is you start that's a great point I mean that's that's the key to life the key to life is to value your time right the key to life is to value your time and try as much as you can to direct it towards things you love being with people you love doing things you love right and recognize that the more you do that you have to compromise the more you do where you're only doing it for a paycheck or you're only doing it because you want to play it safe or you're only doing it for any any what figure out whatever the negative reason would be anytime you're

19:37doing anything like that you're wasting time yeah you're wasting the most precious thing you can have yeah theoretically I mean this seems to be a very rare man I'm this book you got to read this book Bill Bryson a brief history of nearly everything that's one you were talking about today holy man when like his you know he's just very good at taking this you know some pretty dense IDE is I'm writing it down like I'm going to prepare to read I'm going to pretend I'm going to read it you I you'll read this this a brief history of nearly everything yeah I I would put this this is as good as like the archaic revival or it's not about psychedelics but it's is it's psychedelic just because it's he's so good at um articulating this that's incredibly difficult to understand you know like uh the the gravity you know gravity being the you know what gravity is do

20:27you know what gravity is not really I mean I know it makes the Earth really sticky so yeah that's the larger the planet is The more mass uh the planet has the stronger the gravity pull is that's why the Moon is one six Earth's gravity Mars is one is like one half or one quarter scra right but I'm not going to say right like I know I'm going to say right like I I imagine I don't know Mars is less it's those are issues like that they have to deal with when they go into space and they don't have gravity you know their bones get all up the so what's happening here according now anyone out there who's a scientist I do not think of myself as a scientist I'm wait what about that you were saying earlier today man I told Joe I was a scientist bro so yeah like let's going to surprise anybody I just don't want the inevitable like shut the up no we're we're just talking man we're just

21:18talking so in this book it says that what gravity is is you get this incredibly heavy thing a thing with a lot of mass and the Mass pushes in to the time space continuum and so it's like they compare it to like putting a lead ball and a mattress it creates an indentation and gravity is actually the indentation in the in time space and so that's why like if you roll a ball towards a um like if you put a kettle bell on your mattress and roll a ball towards it it'll start Falling Towards the kettle bell and that's what planets are doing they're Falling Towards or trapped in this sort of indentation created what a great way of putting it like a really small heavy weight in the center of the mattress and everything gets sort of sucked into its wake that's it that's the most psychedelic thing ever oh there it is oh cool yeah check this out this is it this explains

22:15gravity so if I have another object it also warps SpaceTime they feel that and they're attracted to each other and so that's a that's Einstein's picture of gravity objects warp SpaceTime feel that curvature and move accordingly and if you have more mass you're right there you have more mass it's going to bend SpaceTime more and so if you have objects here we we're looking at a like a trampoline it's look like a impromptu trampoline that they've made with it looks like tablecloth or something they just stretched over this hole a rim and um they're dropping things in the center so that's what they're talking about this is probably like a little too visual to uh really get across at all yeah yeah but that's pretty good description it's a trampoline with a heavy thing in the middle and this guy's like dropping marbles on it yeah and he's showing how everything's getting sucked into the

23:19center and that's gravity visualized it's that's the name of it on YouTube yeah grab but so so all of this stuff like in the introduction Bryson's like he's I think he said he was on a ship or he's flying over the ocean he really and he he's like I don't I don't know how big the Earth is I don't know how much water is in the ocean I don't know how far away the Moon is he realized he didn't know any of this and so he he started researching all of these things and interviewing all of these cosmologists and physicists and then he took it all and put it in a really understandable way like he cut through because a lot of this stuff is so dense like Newton's Newton wrote what is considered to be one of the most famous texts on F I guess physics called the principia I don't know you can look it up the principia something but he intent intentionally made it difficult

24:14it's considered to be Bryson says it's one of the most difficult books to read and he did that because he wanted to separate the real mathematicians and scientists from everybody else he didn't want normal people to have access to this information but yeah it is the philosophy naturalist principia mathaa by Isaac Newton that guy was a freak man they were nuts he was nuts they were trying to figure out um they they oh god there was some equation that they didn't God what was it they were trying to figure out well they back then they were trying to figure out everything how big is the earth what is the they were trying to figure out what why planets the moon moves in the ellip or something like the way planets move and so they've been working on this forever forgive me again you guys I'm sure I'm butchering but I'm doing my best and like this uh this uh famous mathematician goes to see

25:11Isaac Newton and asks him about this problem that they've been working on forever and he's like oh yes I've already solved it and what a dick what a dick and then they were like the guy's like well show it to us and he's like no problem and he goes and he's got Stacks and stacks of paper and he can't find it like it's lost somewhere among his papers but he inevitably found it now here's what's weird about Newton aside from the fact that he uh never had sex no well no he never had sex that's right and then do you know that he studied the Temple of Solomon did you know he's into that he was into Alchemy yeah but what did that mean back then like back then we we now look at it as like old that people did when they were trying to like make gold out of lead and use Witchcraft and like that not witchcraft but yeah I mean an alchemist you think of almost as a

26:00magician don't you well I mean the an alchemist I think of as early it's an early chemist it's another name for chemist so but a lot of it was right like a lot of it was well I mean here's the thing this is Newton right Isaac Newton one of the most famous Minds ever who discovered all of this when he's surrounded now what we were talking about earlier yeah the liars and people who just make up back then you're like Isaac Newton surrounded by these people who will kill you if you make the wrong Discovery and say it in the wrong way though that's the level of you are surrounded by idiots on all sides like idiots unlike any idiot that we've ever encountered and it's not their fault that they're idiots they just don't have the information so you're studying these alchemical texts you're studying this really weird ancient stuff and from that you come up with all this stuff that

26:52turns out to be real I think Isaac Newton figured something out studying the Temple of Solomon I think probably added to his uh understanding of uh math somehow that's some sacred geometry is in there that I couldn't possibly hope to understand but look man if this is the guy who like figured out so many of the things that we still use today if he's studying the Temple of Solomon I'm not going to I think there's something there must be something to it like something what like in what way like it's gen some sort of a an encoding of information in the architecture of the bu yeah definitely like some maybe somewhere in there there was some well they definitely did that in Egypt have you ever seen some of the breakdowns of the uh the temples the various temples and what they especially the Temple of man yeah have you ever seen the breakdowns of that I've heard you talk

27:43about it I haven't seen I if forget me um John Anthony West is the guy if you're interested in it at all he's got this uh series on uh Egypt called magical Egypt and apparently he just released magical Egypt too which uh the guys a he is like one of the most knowledgeable guys when it comes to the history of Egypt I mean he's amazing he's just so engrossed in it people don't take him that seriously because I don't think he has a master's or a PhD in it I think he's just a guy who's been obsessed with it so he's been studying it forever but he knows so much about it and when you when you watching what he's saying along with just the videos of the temples where he's describing all the different types of artwork and the way they constructed it and how you know it it's basically constructed around the Fibonacci sequence so the entire building is mathematically it's like

28:37sequenced the same way like a human body is like the proportions of a human body right it's really intense like they were so smart man I I just think it's almost in the evidence of how incredibly smart they were to build these just insane buildings are still insane today and they did them 2500 Years BC like what the were people like back then man what happened how did they go from that to trailer parks how how was the same people that can build the Temple of Giza how are they the same people that are about to elect Donald Trump what how is that what happened what's what's going on with human beings like is this like a some of them reach these insanely high frequencies and the rest just eat their ankles while they're trying to climb the mountain is that what it is yeah I mean there's all kinds of like if you look at like the uh you know I think it's in China these uh

29:36you know about the thumb monkeys have you seen these the thumb monkeys they're these little little monkeys you can buy these tiny little sweeties they're tiny they're so cute they're endangered though right oh yeah it's bad you shouldn't have a thumb monkey I don't of course they're endangered they're the size of they're tiny how are they not endangered as mice mice aren't endanger oh they're so cute Thum monkeys right oh my my goodness yeah oh my goodness are you kidding me yeah hold on wait a minute what we need to do is just save these and everybody have these as pets what what F endangered what is this endangered let's throw some money at this problem come on I'm sure how come we can't have how come I can't have a thumb monkey I'll tell you why I'll tell you why cuz these don't know how to take care of them bring them to America where people love thumb monkeys

30:23we'll take care of them we'll breed them like crazy we'll give them all protein powder and save the thumb monkey yeah we give him vitamins and come look at that cute little face dude I'm telling you we can do this all we have to do is get them to we create like a gigantic thumb monkey Paradise look animals when they're safe they okay that's just what happens all you have to do is just get them chilled out and they'll the out of each other I could watch hours of thumb monkeys I bet they only in the mouth that's the problem that's why there's so few of them like hey you keep each other in the mouth that's why there's only 10 of you you got a stick inner there something about thumb monkey it's just rotten it's no good and they don't just hang on your thumb guaranteed so what we're going to have to do is we're going to go go in there and jerk them off and get little

31:13vials of thumb monkey come and just start squirting in the females jerk off the thumb monkeys yeah that's the only way sa them so we can use them as pets yeah man I've been jerking off thumb monkeys all day I'm exhausted and then some people going to find out how delicious they are and then we're going to have a real problem people going to be eating thumb monkeys or they like they they give you a little more energy or they like they make you younger what if they found out they gave you a six-pack eat a thumb monkey in get an inch bigger every time you eat no more thumb monkeys no more thumb monkeys it be swarms of humans descending with giant dicks it'd be like that bit that I used to have about big dick pills people be coming out of the thumb monkey forest with their mouth covered in blood and fur it's one thing too like we would not let you eat fellow primates

32:00we have rules in this country at least if you if you um if you can eat if you could prove that a pig is smarter than a thumb monkey and it might be yeah still okay to eat pigs not okay to eat a thumb monkey even if it's stupid there's something about the little look on its face when you go to grab it it's like yeah look you can't you can't eat your own kind man well it's not even our own kind dude well it looks close enough to Us close right it's pretty close man pretty close and but the point is man if you get that happening right and and then why wouldn't it happen with humans that like some humans are are going to diverge some humans are going to vote for Trump Some Humans don't want to hear Isaac Newton talking about his goddamn like so and those humans usually are really violent and that's why people like Isaac Newton end up be becoming very relatively reclusive

32:51they don't want to deal with these they're constantly dealing with people who are idiots like idiots and who are idiots at the like I'm an idiot but if someone corrects me and it seems undeniable then I'll refine you're a completely different kind of idiot than an idiot from the 1400s right I'm a different idiot like these idiots are like they will kill you they will imprison you they will incinerate you so well we're an we're idiots we're both idiots but we're idiots in the age of information right like we're so much more informed today even the dumb amongst us than anyone that's ever lived than any civilization ever if even the really brilliant people you go to like you know Thomas Edison or someone if you had Thomas Edison alive today he wouldn't know jack about the way this world Works cuz there's too much information that doesn't apply like that you need

33:49today that that he just didn't have that he he'd have a it would be a long time before he totally understood what the was going on but my point being that you're talking about people that were the most informed people in the world during their time the regular person today is way more informed than them on so many different things even if it's just instantaneously by being connected to Google if they have the will to check there's more information now today than your average dumbass can just grab a hold of it and use it for an argument more an instant than anybody that's ever lived so all these people that Newton was dealing with oh my God how many of them even could read right how many how many of them just believe the most unbelievably and thought there were demons waiting for him in the woods sure and thought that they had to do the will of God otherwise

34:41the apocalypse would ensue and they have to lock up Galileo and make sure he doesn't tell everybody that the Earth is in the center of the universe yeah most of them man how do those guys get through and we're complaining about a tweet oh man I got so much hate for this tweet yeah right Galileo got locked up for being right they put him in house arrest one of the most brilliant astronomers and one of the most important people in the world at the time for and maybe even ever when it comes to getting the people to try to understand the perspective of what we're dealing with when we're looking up into the heavens right that it's very possible that you're looking at something that absolutely doesn't have an end right this isn't something we can Define and it's proof positive that the pettiness in nonsense that we we wrestle with on a day-to-day basis is a

35:32fantastic distraction from The Eternity above our heads at any given moment and this eternity that you're trying to attach to a book that was clearly written by people even dumber than us even less informed than us with less information more scared the oldest guy in the tribe was 19 right everybody's dead by the time they're 30 everybody's got Gang Green and malaria your mom got eaten by a crocodile and you got to distinguish though information from navigation you know like so it's like you you you're you're in this Dimension that You' got to navigate through for a certain period of time right so the Bible or the the the Torah or whatever the religious scripture is that you're looking at it is the data in it as far as the age of the Earth where things came from a lot of that data is obviously completely wrong and you can see how someone think of it it's like what a

36:35six-year-old might think it's so but you could see a young version of humanity would think these things that make sense but with like encased within all that bad data are some pretty great navigational tips so it's so you got to be able to unpeel all the bad information and look deeper and see if there's anything in there that is like cuz cuz when you were talking about uh not Newton who was it uh Galileo if we brought him back here he would be confused Thom Thomas yeah so I think a lot of these people have developed navigational techniques that would work they would adapt for sure it would adapt quick and that's what's important it doesn't matter how much data you're getting you know it's like this is what I love about archery is that archery you're dealing with it data right you're dealing with so every time you fire an arrow you get an instantaneous feedback

37:30from the Target right so you know here's where I'm off no question about it no arguing about it right no matter how that is not the bullseye and I can clearly see that's not the bullseye and so then you make adjustments right so okay so if I just move a little bit to the left then maybe I'll get closer to the bullseye and I've noticed with archery my ego even when I will will have me shoot the arrow in the exact same way even though I'm still off the Target you know oh like say no no no you were right their arrow is wrong yes that's how the brain works like it felt right just keep doing it so so so you've got it even though the feedback from the universe is like nope wrong no don't take that approach to butt ever you hurt somebody not I hurt somebody stop screaming I'm doing it right yeah right exactly but think of it man so I certainly in in my life have aired by Choosing My in over the

38:28feedback I'm getting from the universe because I want and so because of that self- sabotage self sabotage that mean you're not you're not a terrible person with that you don't you don't have giant problems with that but you are like a lot of other impulsive artists and that you're kind of drawn towards that sometimes when you don't have structure you can get chaotic with your freedom yeah and sometimes your your freedom becomes a prison in a lot of ways because you don't discipline yourself and you don't necessarily have to because you're a comedian so hey I I I don't have anything to do today and then you're in front of that computer and that game is there and you just can get sucked into it whereas a normal person with a normal life is like hey I got I have to do in the morning right well this is like that book that you introduced me to which I I

39:15the war of art no the book of five rings oh the real one and the one that talks about how uh you should just learn anything like get good at anything it doesn't matter what the thing is that you're getting good at because if you understand how to get good at this one thing you can extrapolate from that how to get good at almost anything there's these recurring patterns that happen and so with archery it's really cool because you have to find these you have to keep all these variables the same no matter what your environment if you can learn to keep these variables the same if you're on a hill the distance in Wind whatever if you can learn how to hold these variables the same which is the Anchor Point the way your arm holds the bow the way you pull the arrow back the way you release the arrow there's all these pieces in there and if you can keep all of those the same or close to

40:05the same with adjustments based on whatever your target happens to be then you're going to improve in your accur accuracy if you keep changing your variable if you keep moving your arm up or down or like releasing in a different way or whatever if any of these things are always changing you won't be as accurate over time so from that you can grab that and look at your light and realize like oh man my life I've just been readjusting all these stupid variables over and over and over again without just for at least a month attempting some rhythmic pattern some similar thing you know and when you start doing that it's really interesting because you begin to um improve in a lot of in everything in general you know so yeah so to me it's like I think these people like Newton I think the great people of the World they discovered this very specific pattern that if you apply

41:04yourself to it then you will begin to flourish and that pattern is written about in most scriptures it's probably somehow hidden in the goddamn Temple of Solomon diagrams it's probably in there somehow right it's it must be in there because people walk through the world and the way that fish swim right and so the smart people must have figured out the best way to navigate in this Dimension regardless of your surroundings or settings or situation that can be handled by adjustment so yeah I love to believe that there are hidden uh methodologies that some of the great people of the world have adopted and for whatever reason keep kind of secret they don't talk about it for some reason you know they don't share it with everybody or they don't say oh this is why I figured this out here's how it's not just the discovery I'm interested in with Newton it's like what were you

42:02doing what were you doing all day long what the were you doing we don't know except the fact that when they took his hair a sample of his hair it was filled with Mercury man so that guy was like in some laboratory with Mercury Qui quick silver you know with a a like old scrolls with the Temple of Solomon on it like staring at it and then dripping Mercury through test tubes to try to transform lead into gold what was he doing we'll never know you'll never know and how many more people are doing that now that we don't even know about it's is hidden away like well they're doing electronically now right yeah yeah yeah they're doing it like oh right because they're trying to bring computers to life and that's the real Alchemy now but when you think about what they knew back then when you think about Isaac Newton in that time period and what he knew as opposed to what

43:01everybody else is doing and like being able to establish something like a theory about gravity and being able to try to explain this to people during that time how I mean who knew what was legit and what wasn't so like when he was looking at Alchemy he might have been thinking there's probably something to this it's just these guys haven't figured it out or people forgot it or no one knows it but it only makes sense if things are made out of elements that you could perhaps combine these elements and make something different you could train I mean they didn't know they didn't have like a table of elements back then they didn't know what all the different elements were that's right what year did they develop the table of elements that's a really important question because those elements are essentially what we've been able to measure in the universe right yeah and then things like

43:50the Large Hadron which just finally figured out some stuff that we couldn't measure before right well it's launching protons you're shooting protons thank God I just listened to this it's like you're blasting a proton just under the speed of light they collide with each other and they're trying to make it relases this sh yeah it's the one missing little piece it's like they don't understand something about how things get their density and and so if you could figure that out it all makes sense down there it gets weird down there man it gets very weird down there so it's it's it's quite confusing yeah it sure does periodic table 1863 is that what it says in 1863 there are 56 known elements with a new element being discovered at a rate of approximately one a year other scientist um looks like they did it in 1868 to 1870 principles of chemistry the definitive textbook of his time mendelev

44:48mendelev so one bad in 1868 wrote it all down the periodic table ENT interesting and I'm sure it's been adjusted over time right have they found new elements and new stuff they find new elements all the time yeah but they just add them to that what do they do well they when they were first making it uh there were actually they they could predict what elements they would find based on the elements that they had already found because there were like holes in the periodic table where there should have been things that they hadn't found yet did you ever see the girl that graduated and used as her her graduation speech she used a periodic table that if you not from Reading How It Was Written but if you spell it out to what the elements are says get money no yes yeah wow she's so gangster check this out look at this this is a girl Jessica Lee used her periodic table to quote

45:49biggie looks that Florine uranium carbon pottassium bismuth technum ium sulfur ger germanium wow th thulium thulium oxygen neon and what's this one and it says get money if you spell it out that is hilarious cuz Florine is U uranium is Florine is f uranium is U carbon is C potassium is K bismo is bi technium is TC helium is h e sulur is s germanium is G this is amazing she's so badass God that girl she should have the most awesome job ever someone should hire her and just give her like the most awesome job available SC wouldn't you want this chick working for you Jessica Lee or maybe she wants to do her own well if you scroll up she's very pretty too Duncan this your new wife get money how gangster is that it's pretty gangster pretty gangster it's amazing I wonder if she got in trouble how what for what she likes chemistry you did you hear about the kid who I think he's got a

47:07felony charge on him because he posed as a uh Senator and spoke to a high school and he's like 18 years old and they all believed him and they didn't find out until the senator actually showed up oh no so the actual Senator showed up and went what the that's not me that is so awesome oh my God is there a video of him doing this powerful Jessica Lee wherever you are Jessica Lee powerful oh this guy I'm not that I'm sorry it's not that story I just saw this it just happened yesterday so like there said a couple the kid in like Florida who got arrested for being a gynecologist the story is kind of getting confused with it or like being added to it are you talking about that kid who was posing as a a fake doctor like same thing I it was an addendum to that story as how I saw yesterday this guy like was running a whole medical clinic this kid saying he was a doctor

47:52but he wasn't a doctor at all how about a guy who was doing there was a guy in New York that was doing uh underground butt jobs and plastic surgery was shooting like silicone like that you would buy from a like a supermarket or a hardware store and these girls asses 18-year-old who posed as Ohio Senator facing charges yeah yeah this kid's a psycho the fact that he can pull that off keep an eye on that I want to see the speech well did he do it to win a bet it feels like conceptual like uh I'll try to remember some of the story like he's getting a couple of charges cuz he like had a car rented he had people with him like as officials he had fake security he went and spoke to a class that's hilarious well see if he's 18 years old I would like pull him aside you know talk to him for a couple days get to know him find out how crazy he really is sounds very smart he might be dealing

48:50with some Super Genius like he sounds hilarious sounds like like how they would find someone like in an X-Men episode like one of those X-Men movies they' find this guy who's just been lying to people and but like to genius to arrest yeah that level of Comedy is that's criminal rat this guy for wearing sunglasses while he's doing an interview on TV take your sunglasses off sir America wants to see your eyeballs yeah who do you think you are you like busted an 18-year-old who play a fake Senator he's wearing sunglasses like he's Nas doing an interview on the red carpet take those sunglass glasses off indoors you son of a bch are you doing superintendent I mean titles are so stupid anyway it's like the kid like superintendent I'm a super Ken ratliffe superintendent very prestigious position honey I've got to do a press conference today about this dangerous

49:42student who impersonated a senator what are Senators impersonating by the way it's just a guy who just calls himself a senator because of a political system that again and again gets proven to not be an accurate representation of anything relax I can't relax I'd love to but I can't it get so worked out what we both do I mean it's just this thing where like you know the whole idea of the Sacred Senator that was impersonated by this to arrest a kid you're going to put handcuffs on a kid who did one of the funniest things ever that's funny it's a very funny thing he did it's not dangerous at all no one was hurt nobody got killed no none of those kids are going to go home and do some awful thing Duncan if we want order in this country and I do mean order we must stop shenanigans that is Shenanigans Shenanigans must stop Shenanigans must stop or we will not be on schedule to

50:46construct our robot overlords we must push forward push forward and innovate push forward push forward push forward and innovate what is that I was impersonated by a child have him arrested immedately throw him in the dungeons would you see what Isis did they they chopped a 15-year-old's head off cuz he was listening to Western music they they they chopped his head off in the middle of the street I'm no longer surprised by anything you hear about Isis whenever it comes in it's just a it seems like they're running out of ideas like like they're a shock jock who keeps trying new stunts to stay St stay on the air they have pitch meetings it's Wacky Wednesday we're throwing down today everyone's going to eat garbage tune in live guys we're running out of ways to horrify the planet we've destroyed all the natural monuments in the area I need five great ideas for

51:40something horrible we can do today to shock the world someone's like well I know my neighbor's like been playing country music you can cut his head off who wants to get their mouth shat in for Nickelback tickets come on stve the caller number 97 wins it all cuz they're like they that's what it is who wants to get their head cut off it's like yeah no one's shocked anymore they over let's kill babies this baby was looking at my dick it's going to grow up gay let's stop the fire they're shoving gay people off Towers they're decapitating Christian people there was a great piece that someone wrote about using a gay hookup app in a Middle Eastern country and how easy it was to find guys to right some guy who put it up there because I guess he wouldn't get the death penalty but he'd probably get thrown into jail but a a guy who lives in the country I forget what country it was was some

52:38Muslim country something with an M I think yeah and anyway homeboy got plenty of dick while he was over there of course yeah of course dirty dick dirty with a a lot of sand on it yeah SC I mean and and and scary dick scary cuz you don't know I mean that's like a place where there's probably undercover cops who like like just someone in the ass for a couple of minutes and then they're like you're busted or maybe don't even them just try to find them and kill them because they're gay they them whoa you think so yeah it's like you got to smoke weed if you're if you're an undercover cop it's the same thing you got to suck some out there man you got to like suck play it cool for a while he go to Deep Cover yeah Deep Cover bro you got to take in the ass for five months been proven porn movie it's a great porn movie great porn movie it's been proven bro they do not trust you for the first

53:39few months too many guys have just been Stolle on man they've been Stolle on you're going to have to do it you got to and you got to be convincing you got to be a lover look let me show you I'm got suck a lot of we're going to send you to our training camp it's at my apartment well you you won't suck for your country is that what you're telling me you're happy the Jabs come over here and just eat all our babies is that what the is going on here are you a coward you want suck a dick for for America sex laws yeah man you got to have sex laws like the moment you have sex laws the moment that you have decreed a sex law in your country then you are going to create a nation of perverts because you have supercharged whatever the thing is that you're trying to keep illegal by adding to it that it's like now you're breaking the law that's the best that's now

54:30you have a way to express your rebellion and come at the same time yeah just make it you can't make sodomy illegal well it's it we we talked about this when I was explaining how I dated girls when I was in high school that went to Catholic school and that every kid in Catholic school that that we all knew the girls who went to Catholic School were the biggest hoes they couldn't all due respect to hoes it's not a bad thing but they they were so sex charged they were so completely wired that sex was this forbidden thing that is burning up inside of them and they would feel so bad about it when it was over but they would do it again over and over again yeah it was so common whereas girls who went to public school they were normal for the most part unless something bad had happened in their life yeah and and to think that there are actual ordinances all over the world where some

55:23guy has written down and and legal code that you will not place your penis in an or a mouth or a mouth a mouth is sodomy getting your dick sucked is sodomy and is still illegal in certain States right yeah pull pull up sodomy laws in 2016 because as far as I know in Georgia I was researching this because I am a researcher I don't know if you realize this I was reading some smart people wrote down about this like seven or eight years ago and there was some dispute about it that it was like there was some places in the country where was still yeah illegal to have anal or oral sex cuz it falls under a sodomy law so if you got go down on your wife you can go to jail cops come in and they catch you going down on your wife you're committing a crime yeah are that's that that's real in some places yep that's true that's the state right how the did that ever get

56:23written down in the first place like who's trying stop eating who's just stepping in and saying this is just way too much eating going on we got to lock these people up like who who did that who did that well I probably uh a hardcore Christian I would imagine I mean you were a lot of the the people living in this country not that very long ago were you know burning witches so probably like sucking on a is considered to be some form of witchcraft because the body was evil the idea is the body's evil the body's corrupt the body is corrupt the body's corrupt Especially Yours it is corrupt I mean I stink corrupt but the body is foul the body is yeah so you have to feel foul you're foul you have original sin you have original sin what do I do well you've got to uh I don't want to die no if you I don't want to go to hell that's right how do I not go to hell

57:23please tell I'll do anything well we've got a payment plan man but they make you suck any dicks you'll have to suck a few dicks but they make you you can whip your back that's what people would do you could Gorge yourself people still do that you ever see they do it with knives they slap themselves with knives attached to Strings and they just tear their back apart and a suicide bomb just went off at one of those things so there's video of people whipping their backs and then a suicide bomb goes that's how weird is yeah pull up suicide bomb at back whipping Festival there a back flipping fesal yeah you know I thought the dog eating Festival was fake that dog eating Festival in China I was like there's not really a dog eating Festival is there I thought that was just a joke cuz it sounds so funny Ulin dog meat Festival um and then I made the mistake of looking it up online whoa don't look

58:20at that whoa that's the worst thing of all time it is so weird the the the hierarchy of animal life that we have in this world right do you think that's coming more into Focus now that you're hunting animals now that you've actually killed animals do you think like your views on it are shifting at all because you're slaughtering your own meat sometimes now I think I I have more experiences with some some wild animals than some people do that's about it um but what do I know in terms of I mean the whole exper like the wild animal experience all right this is just the the experience of getting out of a city and going into the wild itself is very psychedelic in some very strange way and I didn't feel that way until I started hunting it sounds bad but let me explain when I be when I would go to the Wilderness before I'd be like what a cool place it's so beautiful it's so

59:21peaceful I love I love the Clean Air I love looking at the green trees look how pretty that river is when I started hunting I became somehow or another like connected to all these living things that are there and you're in their world and you exist on their vibration it's very when you're hunting like an elk or something like that and you're slowly creeping up on it in the woods with real consequence involved for both of you right like a real moment a real in and then when you do take that animal and kill it it and wind up eating it you've got some incredibly weird psychic connection to that place in the world that place on our planet you it's not just as simple as like I know where my food comes from yeah but that's that's that's definitely good but killing it yourself and then eating it there's a totally different thing going on there and killing it with

60:21a bow and arrow right like hunting this thing down finding it putting a perfect shot on it killing it watching it die then eating it and then knowing when you eat it that this experience this insane Primal experience is connected to this food right there's so much going on there it's so there's so much so much weird calming things happen like it puts you in like this you know we were talking about like there's certain Primal reward systems that we all have like we were talking about like making a fire like there's something about standing over a fire that's like a primal reward system there's a little bit of that in bows and arrows too right for sure it's almost like these things are established in our in our our mind because they're what made people become successful and survive thousands of years ago and those rewards are ingrained in our patterns yeah and it's

61:13like almost like ignoring them by not going outside by not starting Fire by not doing things like archery or physical exercise where you reward your body with these experiences that it's it's just craving on a genetic level right it's not making you a dummy to exercise your body it's not making you a fool to care about campfires it you're taking in something in this world that you might need and I think the same thing I've been thinking a lot about this I've been thinking about a lot of this in in applying to why things are attractive and beautiful because I've been freaking out about views lately because I have this friend and uh he doesn't give a about views would not care less doesn't go anywhere just works and you know and his house like that was he like that was our last concern was the view we're indoor people this guy's just constantly door watching Netflix working watching

62:08Netflix and I was thinking like what what is it that I like about a view like what the is it like why why is that important to me to stare like a out into like what is beauty like what is this thing that I'm seeing when I see snowcapped mountains and clouds rolling across a mostly Bluey and the sunrays hitting the green leaves to me it's like like some sort of a calming drug like my body is being given some stuff that it needed and I wasn't getting it when I was inside the house I wasn't getting it when it was in my car I needed to be there and it was giving me this thing that I can't put on a scale I can't measure it with a ruler but it's a thing it's a real thing that you're experiencing I think all those things that made us alive in 2016 all those things are those they're part of like our requirements and because so few people fill out those requirements I think

63:05that's one of the reasons why so many people are depressed and I think the beauty is because those beautiful things that we look at almost always they represent places where life flourishes right so it's almost like as people wandering across the world looking for food if you saw all the sudden Green Grass and fruit hanging from trees and animals and there's snow so there's snowcap mountains which means there's a river there's water we can drink the water we got food we're going to live we're going to live and so you would see that beautiful Bountiful forest in front of you and oh it would feed your requirements and and and it it it these are it it tells you something because it you it tells you this huge secret yeah and I'm not saying there's a conspiracy where people don't want you to know this because it's obviously something you know but the Earth supports you and the

63:58Earth will take care of you if you work hard the Earth will take care of you not work hard as in like work hard in your factory or your company but suddenly when you realize there's a force that transcends the laws of humanity and that is nature and then you realize that if you know how to like like I was telling you I'm trying to learn how to start a bow fire right now and uh I'm you got to get a bit like that dude there's different ways of doing it I I mean I just want to start a a friction based fire I just like that guy was doing like that guy was doing gonna your hands up I don't care I want to do it I want to experience it and I want to know that I can do it and uh but but what starts happening when you when you're doing like shooting a bow and you realize like whoa I could do this I can like hit a Target and then the implication is if you needed to you

64:49could hunt your own food you wouldn't have to go to a job you wouldn't have to get enough money to buy the food if you get good enough at this you can hunt your own food and it doesn't matter who's paying you and if you can start your own fire you can have heat no matter what and then if you can build your own shelter you can have a shelter somewhere and all these things when you they comfort you in a way because it seems like so much of our society is based on inducing this incredible insecurity that if you don't keep marching in place your life is going to fall apart because you have become a slacker and yeah and you've gone against the the the the the pulsation of modern society and and Improvement yeah exactly and and that's that's anxiety inducing place yes so it's a scary place to be it's like so like man I got to pay this much for taxes and I got to go

65:48to work this many hours a week and I've got to like all these things that I have to do I've got my credit card payments that I have to make and if I don't do that I'm in trouble you're like abiding by a false system it's a real system but it's not the real is like the Earth where if you're on the earth and you're walking you're not thinking man rinse de next month you're thinking I've got to find food to eat I've got to find a place to take shelter I've got they're all these things are very simple and there's no human in charge of it you you're not making a call to the woman at Bank of America asking her why she froze your card up because you used two parking meters on the same day that were close to each other in a weird place and now you're not able to buy dinner there's no when you're in the nature hunting there's no operator that you call to complain about

66:42the lack of food or to complain about the weather it's just truth pure unadulterated 100% truth and when you're in contact with truth it feels great it's relaxing if you've constantly been basing your perception of Truth on what other people are telling you it is I think that's part of the comfort of it well there's a poll without a doubt that humanity is experiencing and that PLL has been going on since people figured out how to make the first bow fire it's when they figured out how to control fire then they figured out how to make shelter and then they figured out how to stockpile then they figured out how to group together in small villages then they figured out how to make walls and they figured out how to make cities then they figured out how to cool off and that's where stuff got freaky right they figured out factory farming and they figured out fast food and they

67:33figured out supermarkets and then they figured out the electrical maze that goes through this entire country that keeps everything cold all your food stays cold you always have food you can heat things up you can cool things off we got that on lock it's and then from then it's like what we're doing is this is like the final stages of a caterpillar cover itself with a cocoon this is the last final frenzy so there's Innovation that's been going on for thousands of years but then it hits us point about a hundred years ago or so where they figured out how to cool things down they figured out ice boxes and then refrigerators and it got to the point where everybody had a refrigerator and then it got to the point where supermarkets were everywhere like all the cities have supermarkets and then everybody lost their connection to Nature everybody you had to go out and

68:21get it you had to go find your connection and even then your connection was oh we like to be out nature how many days a week right is it even one right no it's usually once every two weeks you go on a hike and you claim your Nature Boy shut the up okay we're we're we're in the hive right now we're constructing this crazy thing sure and if you really are like a real solid ass nature person that's out there in the woods you got to be freaked out watching this go on outside your front door because even the world that you live is going to be affected by the craziness of these frenzied cocoon making monkeys that are scrambling to cover everything with wires they're covering everything with electrical wires and internet wires and wireless wires there everywhere a matrix of information and data swarming around us my brother has a place my uh off the coast of Georgia uh

69:12this place called little Cumberland don't tell people it's beautiful they can't you can't I mean you could try to get there it's a beautiful place but uh man and and it's a place where like it's like a nature conservancy so the people who Liv there grandfathered in it's a very intense beautiful place but the point is now they're having these problems right because guess what someone wants to build right next to this beautiful chain of islands off the coast of Georgia oil refinery a Space Center what so they want to build a place to launch Rockets into space yes and it's what you know and right outside of this thing yes and and it's a problem and hopefully they'll they'll well this is where my mind this is right now is like where my mind is really in a boxing match with itself because I Yap so much about virtual reality technology I love it it's incredible but lately after I've been

70:06doing this like just I mean it sounds so guys I've been inside so much this seems spectacular to me but now that I've been going outside and just shooting a bow and arrow or just going outside and like hanging out with my dogs or just being outside and like you know uh one interesting byproduct that I've noticed from micro doing LSD and also or from not just micro doing but from taking mushrooms is the next day you feel more connected to Nature you notice plants again you see how beautiful flowers are again well you don't need the Psychedelic to do that you can just spend one minute stopping next to a flower and staring at it up close and you'll realize this is this is an alien this is some beautiful insane alien habitat for all these other creatures that are living inside of and it's just amazing and so I don't know I mean I'm listen I'm not about to like

71:04turn into a nudist and go running off into the woods or anything like that but what about that you said today the what I'm gonna become a nudist and run into the woods I would you know what I I I kind of get the whole that the whole nud but the the the uh the the problem in my mind is like simultaneous to this incredible feeling you get from nature there is this other thing that's emerging and and and where do the there's got to be a way to balance the two out but the feeling I get from playing 6 hours of Fallout 4 versus the feeling I get from doing yard work for five hours or four hours and then shooting arrows after that are two very different feelings and one is an incredible feeling like you just got to massage for six hours you feel rejuvenated happy this kind of clean you're not clean at all but you feel like youve just taken a shower like your

72:06Energy's been cleansed or something and then the other feeling is like the filthy nasty disgusting feeling you get from being outside well Duncan I feel the exact opposite when I used to play Quake for 8 hours a night I would feel like the biggest loser in the world when it was done I would be like what am I doing with my life oh you're so you're up sweaty way way over caffeinated by the way I would drink way I was drinking these sodas that I found there's this place in North Hollywood um near where I lived that had these um they were like brainwash was one of them and they had like a skull on the cover and it had BL D like it turn your lips blue and your tongue blue Jes probably terrible for you but it was so loaded with caffeine and sugar I would down like five of those while I was playing video games yeah man I mean it's God it's like I've been a video game adct

73:11for most of my life and they're too good they're too good but the feel I've also been someone who loves psychedelics and uh the the different it's it's just very important to to be honest about where your arrows are landing and like if you're playing video games all the time and you're getting fat and feeling sick that's real like you're getting fat and feeling sick like don't trick yourself into thinking that you're not like you feel like for a reason because something about being inside the Cave the artificial cave staring into an artificial environment God I'm sorry you guys I love this not B but here's the thing about what you're saying is that indoor archery has a very similar feeling is Outdoor Archery they do indoor archery tournaments right it's archery is a different thing man it's um it's not just the outside part of it the outside part of it today like when you

74:05and I were doing it it was definitely fun it's cool it's cool to be outside we had had a lot of laughs shot arrows for a few hours but the indoor thing is really fun too man there's something really Zen about the concentration the concentrating on your form and that when you're holding that shot you really can't think of anything other than executing correctly everything has to be in line and then release the arrow and then you have to judge by where that landed what you could have done differently if it's perfect you're like okay recreate that try to recreate that and there's some sort of a weird meditation effect in doing that because it's just there's no interference it's just you and that Target there's no one trying to block your arrows there's no one screaming in your ear and it's difficult enough that's why like there's something about it that it's like when

74:53it all comes together it's like a reward like a beautiful musical note or something that's it yeah you're getting it's it's just there is the world is alive right you don't have to take acid to realize that but the world but but it helps the world is alive and and and when you're when you when you're in this living being whatever it may whatever it is composed of all these other living beings it it has as one of its qualities it teaches you cuz like one thing I I love to think about is who's the smartest person on earth right and what would the smartest person be like and I then I think well who's the smartest person I know and what are they like and then I try to from that imagine what if that pattern keeps getting more in intense more and more intense more more intense more more intense who would that person be like like what does Perfection look like right so you go into nature

75:48and you instantaneously get a glimpse at Perfection right you look at a flower you look at any plant life you look at most animals and the what you were taught is these things they don't care about themselves they don't seem to care about themselves the personality the ego the identity obviously flowers are not getting their hair blown out in the morning and they're not concerned about anything at all they just seem to be an expression of life into the universe no ego no personality no identity they're invisible how I there's a whole godamn and beautiful Bush of these uh someone I I posted a picture of it but someone told me I can't remember the name of them beautiful purple flowers and like I walk by them every day when I'm walking the dogs and and I've never noticed them I've never noticed them and then I looked over at them the other day and the winds blowing and they're it looks

76:42like they're like dancing or bowing or bending and then I got closer I'm like my God this is a life form this is like a living thing that I've been walking by every single day and it doesn't give a if I look at it it doesn't if I look at it we don't know what it cares about it probably cares about nothing no central nervous system but it's alive and it's there so if you take that as Perfection which I think it is and then from that try to establish what a perfect super intelligent person would be like then from that you get this idea of what enlightenment might look like a pure reflection of nature unimpeded by the awful anchor of the egoic mind but it would also be forced to try to understand what it's doing as a collective species what is it doing with this massive thirst for Innovation you're right you know what is it doing constantly trying to make more money get

77:33a bigger house get a fatter boat what is it doing like what's it doing why is it continuing to want the latest and greatest why is it continue to ask for new innovation obsession with the self it's all obsession with the self it's it's obsession with technology too and but it's technology I mean Tech so much of Technology now like imagine if there was no social networking right you I'm not going to say the joke but you have a very very funny joke about likes I'm not going to give it away it's a very funny joke but uh so like so much of of of uh technology is based on getting this instant feedback right okay okay so it's so much about the self if you remove that component where you're not connecting with people you're not getting this weird like okay you're in the group okay we like you okay then then now we've just got these kind of like calculator books or something right

78:22but so much of people are really using technology uh because they want to feel like they're using it as a way to identify themselves as a thing you know it's an expression of themselves but uh I think that the more you free yourself from this from an identity and that's something that does happen when you're out in nature and especially when you're doing the kind of you're doing where you're out there for a few days I'm no goddamn Grizzly Adams this might come as a big surprise but I've been in nature when I used to work at a summer we went out for this like weeklong hike and like 3 days in I realized I hadn't looked at myself for 3 days like 3 days of not seeing myself three days of no self to to observe and man I was getting so happy and like you know like the weightiness of the self and then when you're with a group of people who are all working together then

79:17your self gets transposed into the group so now there's a group self where everyone's kind of working together the point is we're all all we've got our noses shoved like dogs right in our own right into the of ourselves constantly thinking about ourselves concerned about this me does he like me he doesn't like me God that guy's doing so good why am I not doing as good is that guy holy I'm getting fat look at your body my God God you're getting old oh God yourself yourself yourself everyone's fixated on it but if you imagine that being like a kind of gravity and that's somehow Vanishing so you are just like a plant blowing in the wind a tree you become invisible you become invisible and you become perfect instantaneously it's this obsession with this ridiculous contrivance that we call the self that is making so many people hurt and so and all and like talk about this new Modern Life well

80:18it's all built on teaching people to be fixated on that self you know all of the great star s you know all the like I'm not saying they're great but you know what Kanye West one of the most painful things about Kanye West is that he's good you know here's this guy who's like you know blasting all the he's like the the ultimate example of an egomaniac a pure narcissist in the most extreme degree and you want that person to be somehow awful like cuz I hadn't listened to a lot of Kanye West music until he freaked out on Twitter I had listened to a lot of it I'd heard it here and there but I never like sat down and really listened to it so I got my car driving to the comics you know I'm going to listen to Kanye West let's hear how bad this sucks with his shitty tweets I bet he sucks so bad I can't wait to hear this oh man this is good God damn it what were you listening to the new stuff

81:12no old I started at the beginning uh I started at the beginning and you started listening I'm not going to listen anymore like I I don't want it to be good but my point is that guy is an example of Uber success whether or not you like him as a person whether or not you even like his music that guy based on his decision for his career has accelerated himself just about as far as you can in the area of materialistic success so he serves as an example of someone who is so obsessed with himself Kanye all the songs are about Kanye everything's about Kanye it's like and he Compares himself to Picasso right but like imagine if Picasso only did self portraits imagine if these great artists that he's talking about were always just like commenting on themselves or using themselves as the main inspirational force behind everything that we're creating there are would suck you

82:05wouldn't be that interested in it you know but I think that if you can lift that the if you can somehow eject the Kanye inside of you out that thing that's constantly thinking of itself W man that's Heaven that's Paradise that's I think that that must be an Enlightenment that's why I like archery I don't mean to keep bringing it back but when you you can't be you got to not be there for a second when you're shooting yeah well that state that Zen state that flow State that's what everybody wants to recreate they all want to be in that mind of no mind they all want to be trapped without anxiety or they want to be free rather and not trapped with anxiety they want to they want to figure that spot where they're performing whether whatever it is like when you think of someone who's in the middle of a perfect gymnastics routine when you see those girls flip through the air and land literally

82:58perfect on the balls of their feet and arms straight up in the air and they just nail it and there's this state where you you you've got to know that that is just she's practiced it so many times that when she's in the middle of all that I mean there's got to be some sort of a background calculation running but essentially she's completely in the zone in the zone of her movements and that's all she's concentrating on is those movements that's the only way you can do they're so insanely difficult she's flying through the air and turning and twisting she can't think about anything other than what she's doing she can't be like oh my student loans my boyfriend's such a loser you know I wonder why you didn't get it up last night and my muscles too big am I do am I starting to look manly from all these chin-ups she can't think of anything like that she's just G to keep

83:47flipping T Freedom that's freedom I think that there's something going on with technology and there's something going on with its it's like our addiction to it I don't think is as innocuous as we just like look at ourselves like connecting with each other I almost wonder if it's like a natural law if that what we have done is created sort of a pathway to ensure Innovation and one of the best Pathways to ensure Innovation is to get people addicted to communicating electronically through these devices and these devices are going to each and every year require more and more power and ability and they're going to start to communicate with you like Siri and things along with Google Voice you're going to be able to ask some questions and I think through this sort of intertwining itself in our lives it ensures we'll continue to innovate if we continue to innovate it's

84:45inevitable we create a life form an intelligent super evolved artificial life form that's been made out of electronics and computers and all of the technology that we put in place so far and I think it's asking us to do that and it's it's pulling us into its world to do that I think this is the electronic cocoon this is what we've been this is the reason why it's so consistent all over the world and even materialism itself materialism it by Nature by its laws materialism states that you have to get the latest and greatest in order to be the bad man on the Block so if you're going to get the latest and greatest they got to continue to put out latest and greatest and it can't just be numbers it can't be like this is the 2015 this is the 2016 it's the same thing this is a 2030 same thing no it has to get better every year what did you learn what about the Innovation what

85:39about the the engineering does this one drive faster is it does it have some night vision what does this do different and you're going to continue to do it to get to cars now Tom Papa was here the other day his car drives itself he has a Tesla he gets on the highway he presses whatever Auto Drive and he lets his hands go it steers it hits The Brak it accelerates it takes turns it's insane and this is Step whatever in a step that's an infinite number of steps that's going to lead to artificial intelligence and this sickness of materialism is a big part of that because it's a gigantic motivating factor for Innovation it's a gigantic motivating factor for people to continue to buy the newest latest and greatest which will inevitably trickle down or be directly connected to technology it's all connected to technology it's almost like it's summoning these dumb

86:33monkeys to do its work for them by getting them likes on their selfies by getting them likes on their selfies and getting them addicted to the this she was only broken up with him for like three days and she's already got a picture of her and this man look at her Facebook oh my God that you know and these people that are doing this kind of back and forth they're not even conscious of it but you're feeding into this thing you're just constantly giving all of your attention if you're on an app that just checks like who what celebrities had babies that day what are you really doing you're feeding technology you're obsessed with who Rihanna's now that her and Chris Brown have broken up but I heard she's getting back to him what is this what is this well you got to get that information somehow you're feeding the technology and it's giving you food it's giving you

87:19food and you as a are like I'll take it when you got you Kan let me get on Kanye's Twitter I'm I'mma smoke that fool watch what I do on Kanye's Twitter booty ass how about that I said booty ass you hear that Amber said about him that like a finger in his booty and next thing you know you're dead you wasted all your time doing that and you fed this machine this machine made Tron it made some artificial thing it made some some new Overlord that's going to be watching over the little meat bags well that's it and I mean you're you're looking at like you know the the this is probably influenced by Terence McKenna to some degree but like the uh so the idea is like okay Interstellar travel our version of interstellar travel you get on a boat or a a space boat spaceship and you fly to like you fly to Mars and you get out on Mars right so that's our version of in

88:15but like what about another Mo mode of travel which is you're some kind of Consciousness that is you're some kind of advanced and species in some Far corner of the universe and the way that you travel through time is to launch out these uh it's like panspermia so you put these uh you know on meteors or whatever you blast meteors out that have the key components to uh make life so right now we look for planets in the goldilock region where there could be not too hot not too cold where there could theoretically be the possibility for human life to exist but what if you just shoot out a ton of matter into space and this matter is encoded somehow so that when it lands on this planet or that planet it's just the right kind of planet to support the life form that you are then it begins to evolve and to us it seems like it takes millions and millions of years for this Evolution to

89:09take place but for you this Advanced species it's just a a flickering of an eye and all of a sudden this you know Planet the the this this that you've ejected from your planet lands on another planet goes from a single cell organism to a multicellular organism it's it's following a a very specific trajectory that you have pre-programmed so that at the end of all of this it will begin to create technology which will then allow you to beam your Consciousness in via the what we call like computers waking up it's not computers waking up this is the beaming in of an alien intelligence from some other place that has seated our planet intentionally so that it can it can instantly trans support to this to here or maybe we'll recognize that all intelligence is the same thing and even artificial intelligence and what we do by making an artificial life form isn't

90:03create a sentient being it's allowing something to tune into the intelligence that's it that what you're doing is just your biological version of tuning into the intelligence and what I'm doing is just mine and that's why the idea of the self is so ridiculous because the self is just the intelligence expressing itself through infinite different variables yes yes right through different yes right so the intelligence that we create through electronics that once it becomes sentient all it does is lock in to the intelligence the intelligence this we are all one intelligence yeah it's like uh it's like a sail only instead of it catching wind it's catching Consciousness and you're flinging that up using using whatever way it is that they're going to do and and this is why uh when that happens as who knows it could have already happened you know about the I don't think we talked about

90:56this on your podcast that a a computer uh an artificial intelligence beat someone at go did you hear about this you you were talking to me on the phone you called me up about it that's it dude this is man you got to have this guy on the show Aron Frank from Singularity University will always explode your brain but he's one he's this cool guy I know from Singularity University and every once in a while he'll text me and be like dude look at this and this thing he texted me was the fact that cuz they PR addicted so like chess is apparently go is many orders of magnitude more complicated than chess so their prediction for a computer to beat someone at go was uh 10 years from now 10 years from now but the way Aaron Frank described this to me is that they had the so if you okay so like if I teach a computer how to play a game by giving it the moves of the top players

91:55in the game then it will only be as good as the top players in the game so they had to observe the top players in the game playing and then they had it play against itself a million times so that yeah so he Aaron Frank was saying they're not 100% certain how it learned to play like this they don't know in those many iterations that it was playing itself something happened that maybe is very difficult to identify so that's pretty weird to think that it just it it it taught itself you know they're saying that even as as recently as last year they believed another decade would pass for a machine could beat the top humans that's it so we're ahead of schedule here man we're ahead of schedule we're ahead of schedule and uh and and and this is really going down this is really you know the other he was talking about is just like teaching these things like you know AI

92:47have already figured out have already made like scientific discoveries that humans just didn't have time to calculate he was talking about something something with nematodes I think where there was a problem about the I don't know if it's NE some is it NE will you look up nematode AI like these uh neemat they couldn't figure out how they were regenerating their limbs and it' been a big question for a long time so they let an AI run all these hypotheses I guess in a simulator and eventually it spit out the way they were doing it and 60 years that have been troubling human beings the thing solved it in a matter of days so this is what's really exciting about this kind of technology is like aside from the uh fact that it could channel the Messiah or some or maybe it's it's like this thing that we call Consciousness or the computer waking up is you like you're saying

93:40tuning into some universal radio station where the moment we tune into it all of a sudden we get to hear a message that's being constantly broadcast throughout the entire universe in a form that is not adulterated by the culture person personality of the person who's gotten this information field stream because these downloads happen throughout human history they happen whenever there's a Buddha whenever there's a Muhammad whenever there's a world changer a world shifter they get these downloads and problem is that the download has a lot of static in it and that static is whatever culture or whatever understanding of the universe that the information download has to go through so that's why you know when you hear these old myths or you judge a religion because the they're using like very primitive uh I symbols you can still see there appears to be the same kind of

94:30energy flow coming through the same kind of message seems to be coming through all over the place so it's appearing into inescapable truth processed by the filter of human ego that's it and culture and tradition and and establish beliefs that are unshakable that's it yeah like this where's the center of the earth things along those lines unshakable stuff that no one no one was willing to let go of right so it finally is no longer being like uh obstructed by the fear Dynamics or the cultural dynamics of the person who happens to have tuned into the frequency then that message is going to be something so beautiful and profound but I think it'll just be the same as finally catching like radio waves from a spaceship you're you're just going to get a message well I feel like all these things were in place especially at one point in time when we were evolving as a

95:20life form that all these things were in place to make sure that we had reason to survive to have ego to have emotions to have jealousy to have all these things is to this these all ensured that your DNA passed a sense of self and ego would make you sire a bunch of children would make you you know think very highly of yourself would make you higher on the social Community uh if food chain if you could establish yourself as a person of uh Great Value in some way that all these things sort of made sure that our culture and our civilization survive to get to a place like today that we continue to evolve and innovate because we we always from even back in the time where things were extremely rare we placed a lot of value on invention and big things the cotton mill you know the um the uh recordatorios William Randolph HST to start printing fake uh stories about

96:20marijuana that was because of the decorticator that was because an invention an invention that might have interfered with his paper factories and his uh his his friends that uh I think it had to do with Harry anslinger and all these other people that were live back then but these a lot of times an innovation an an invention comes along and the world realizes we will never be the same again we have an electric controlled wagon and that wagon's going to take us around the neighborhood this is amazing and then they figured out steam engines and and combustion engines and Electric engines that why on solar power there's people right now in California they get their car charged up by their solar powerered house so they're driving around all day on sun right and their car is actually using an AI to drive itself too yeah yeah like you can do that today if you have enough of those

97:13solar Bays you can you can use it for your whole house and you can use it for an electric car that is bananas yeah that's nuts man yeah it's nuts and it is it is but it is leading it's going to keep going it's going to keep going it's going to keep going it's never going to stop but when it says hello I mean see the thing is like we've like witnessed Evolution we've seen it we know it's real we know that you know we've witnessed it but when we finally get to do it when Larry King can do a interview with Evolution when you're going to be able to have the conversation with the force causing everything to move in this direction when you when finally it we tune into it man that is a different kind of cre that's not the car that's not a an airplane maybe AI is going to run for president in 2020 maybe after Trump's disastrous first term where Mexico is like

98:07literally pointing missiles at us yeah yeah right we're ready to go to war with Mexico we can't even vacation there anymore yeah because Trump has talked so much maybe then the AI runs for president he's put Hillary in prison maybe they looked out at the Constitution it doesn't say here about you have to be a human right as long as yeah right our founding fathers knew one day a computer would be wiser yeah smarter more effective than the human beings we have today yeah yeah I mean you know the the the this computer's created by man it's our friend it's going to be it's Jesus we call it Jesus I think it is the second coming I think it is the when I think about the second the second coming of Christ or the concept that's in all these religions the the Buddha coming again the M cuz you know there is like we cannot argue with the fact that there are from time to time in human history

99:06beings who are born that come up with systems that completely influence the planet in The Most Extreme Ways there's no question about it whether you not believe always has been that's the way it is we've already talked about a couple so we know that it's going to happen again right inevitably we know that if there was a Buddha there's going to be another Buddha if there was a Jesus whether or not that's something that you know a lot of people argue about but let's pretend there was there certainly was a Muhammad I don't like your tone there's going to be another Muhammad so we know there's going to be another thing that comes around takes a look at what's going on and says okay here's a better way to do this don't you think that thing is the internet well I think the internet is the new Jesus is the beginning of it I think the internet is like when is the like when you see

99:54Kirk beam in on the Starship Enterprise and you see the shimmering like that's the internet but the thing hasn't fully solidified yet when it solidifies that's going to be the Messiah or it's going to be some form of Messiah if it does and it's going to change everything but it's changing it right now right I mean we're always looking for these big events we're always looking for then then things are going to change but we're in the middle of like a wave of change it's going a th miles hour it's overtaking the land it's just so much land to overtake it's going to take forever it's going to take decades but it's happening yeah oh yeah I mean it is happening this is it this is it it's going on right now well this is John the B so like in the in the Bible John the Baptist you know I'm a Christian now Joe John the Baptist was out in the desert baptizing people

100:45shoving their heads in the water he's a guy wearing like camel fur eating honey like this is a weirdo freak in the middle of nowhere and people were coming to him and he was like shoving their head in the water baptizing them they called him John the baptizer but in this wonderful myth and I don't care if it's a myth or real in this wonderful myth he was like setting the way for this Messiah to come and so I'm going off the myth guys I get to enjoy mythology I don't spend hours and hours thinking if it's real or not I just think it's fun to imagine but here's a guy in the wilderness baptizing people and saying something is coming something is coming something is coming that's the internet and the thing that comes the final birthing thing I do think it is a point I know generally the way things work isn't there's this point there's no point when uh dinosaurs

101:36turned into Birds it was a gradual shift but the difference between that gradual shift and this that's happening right now man is that it is exponentially increasing in velocity so we're looking at something that is going to inevitably have a point point a point a point my you know and that point is going to be the moment and Google wherever happens to be where the thing says hi hi hi hi okay okay okay okay I'm here I'm here don't you think that point was when the first piece of information was transmitted through the internet I think that's when that point started I think that point started already I think when that thing happened when you look back at the graph okay like we're looking at the human graph cuz we're in the middle of it like 50 years is a big deal cuz that's what you guys that's what you and I can kind of reference you can understand the length of our lives

102:30so far but if you look at the billions of years if you just look at a million years just try to pretend try to put in your head a million years and then realize that a million years ago there weren't people there were some other thing right they were like close to people but they were probably pretty different than people that's only a million years that's a tiny little blip now we have had the internet since 93 94 so this thing happened and in 23 years it just rolled over the entire world in 23 years change the way we view politics and entertainment and celebrity and law and consequences and pornography yeah it changed pornography it changed it changed the way people trim their pubes y don't make no mistake about it the internet changed it killed crabs it changed the way people groom their pubic care people before the internet was was the wild west down there

103:28you never know what the you were dealing with the internet said a standard that's right it did send a visual standard just shows you how much people were looking at naked people and you know the internet came from a particle accelerator right the internet so it's really weird to think that if somebody was launching protons at high velocities that they were also shaving the of a Nation killing crabs uh and and also changing I think the way I mean if you look at just just a few of the things that were normal in the 70s and the 80s it might have even been hurtful and normal like uh go back and watch some of Eddie Murphy's stand up right and you would be like raw go back and watch Raw but some of it is like blatantly homophobic like ruthlessly so like in all like a an angry way almost but it was it was what you did to get the laugh back then it was comedy yeah it's like

104:26the our perceptions of today are so different you know the the the rush to get all this sort of compiled to get get to get this life sorted out in 80 years like whatever you've got time to do with your own your own personal life your own ego your own goals and I've got dreams and hopes and you're writing all that down like it's going to matter and all that r to doing it is almost like to to keep you from really waking up paying attention to how insane it is that you're some sort of a bizarre multicellular ecosystem that's wrapped up in cloth and wearing sneakers jumping in a metal box on rubber Wheels rolling across the hard surface of a planet that's spinning a thousand miles an hour hurling through the infinite order of space right you're stick in your head in this kind of sand that you call your life because you don't want to peer at this incredible thing that's that's

105:29around you and that's okay there's something merciful about it this is uh when uh ramas talks about uh his Guru Nim coroli Baba who like anyone who ever was ever around that guy said it was the most insane it was one of the most it was the most incredible experience because the guy was like not there that's one of the descriptions that they give for all of these people he was a corpse the world he was a corpse the universe spoke through you get all these different so like uh so people have somehow gotten rid of their EG completely completely so nothing is there so you're dealing with a thing where nothing is there except love except love so all that's coming out is the most pure love doesn't care who you are what you've done doesn't care anything at all about what you think is awful about yourself it's nothingness except for love and being around some someone like that is

106:21incredibly transformative but they talk about when you were around this guy you know you were expecting him to give all these great spiritual truths or teach you stuff but what he would do is he would just like ask about like the news in America or he'd ask about your family or he'd ask about these very mundane things and they said he was doing that because when he wasn't doing that you would get so high just from being around him that he had to bring you down a little bit let me bring you down a little bit I mean it sounds nuts man but I'm sure you I've seen it happen like people come up to you right they're kind of freaking out they've built you up in their mind this this incredible thing right I've seen it happen they get all stamy and weird and if you have a conversation with them you've got to kind of like bring it down a little bit right you've got to like calm them down

107:07a little bit so this guy I I like to think is like a million times greater than like the greatest uh personality you can imagine because the personality's been removed so but why would you want to think that of him without experiencing oh I have I have experienced him as goofy as and and you met him oh I didn't meet him but like when I meet uh when I like I can tell a lot about a person a little bit about a person at least by the way they're dog acts like you know what I mean unless they got it as astray unless they got as astray but you know you can tell if I meet your kid I'm going to be able to understand you a lot right and so in the same way I've met people who hung out with him and uh seen all the kind of similarities that they have and from that I feel like I get a feeling for what this guy was like because they all have from Romos to this guy Ragu Marcus

108:03to uh krishnadas to like all these people who are around him they all have this very specific thing which is impossible to offend incredibly loving very sweet and really funny in a kind of like ironic way they're really funny and so from that I get this feeling of like okay this is what this guy's like because must have been like because they all attribute the way they are from being around him so he he uh impacted them and they're all you know like uh people who aren't really like they're not really there man they're not like trying to like be something you know they're not trying to like be a famous thing or be a great thing they're just in the moment when you're around them so anyway that's how I think met that guy and um uh so that and yeah that's don't you think like as you were talking about like people who meet me and they get a little weirded out they have to realize

109:03that I'm just a normal person don't you think that you're also dealing with a lot of these people that meet that guy and then come back with the these descriptives that are equally exaggerated because they put so much weight into meeting that person I mean not denying that someone can become enlightened because I think definitely it's possible you know I think I I think there's definitely people that get better at everything they do right I mean if you if you continue to write and you decide you going to be a great writer of fiction and you pour your heart and soul into writing your writing will continue to improve become more and more more and more effective right Enlightenment has got to be the same thing same as yoga is the same thing I've I've witnessed 60-year-old ladies who are awesome at yoga and you watch them do stuff with their body you're like whoa and it's just because they

109:50just keep getting better at it they practice it and they get to this point of reality people are obviously attempting to find a healthy mind space they're obviously attempting to master the moment to to be uh one with the moment and to live in the moment I mean that's like a big thing that people say and what does that mean well that means don't think about the past so much don't freak out about this don't be mad at that guy that looked at you weird at the red light and carry it with you all day like be in the moment right now except live with the data that's presented in front of you instead instead of just dwelling on and droning on about stupid and if you do that you'll have more resources to concentrate on things you love right and the more you do that and the more that you are in the moment like so like there's like uh you and I um we are in the moment but we still think about the

110:41past and the future and what's going on right we have to too also because of what we do well we so so the idea here is that there are people and I'm not just talking about neem Cy Baba there's a lot of of not a lot there's not as many as I wish there were but there are these people who uh have completely or mostly let's just say completely some of them just given up on the past and the future it's gone man it's just gone like they gave up on that concept so these people are in the they're in the moment they're just living right here and that's where they hang out and they don't go back and there's a lot of similarities in the reports of the way that these people act uh there's a lot of similarities in the experiences people claim that they have when they're around these people and uh I was I used to be really skeptical about it man but I'm I'm just not anymore only because I know from my

111:42contact with the Romos people I've had a like a shift like it shifted me like there's something from being around those people enough I'm less angry than I was I'm less freaked out over things than I was I'm less but more most importantly I'm uh I can I can recover quicker from getting lost in my head well you have a map of the territory now right the the one of the big problems with people the way they react to things is that the map of the territory they have is based on the morons that are around them that are providing with directions right right exactly that's a real problem so when you're around positive people and healthy people it gives you a new map and that's one of the best things that podcasts do to people that don't have any cool friends right it provides them with a cool map like if you listen to Joey Diaz and Lee say all day like you're going to

112:36have a silly fun map right and he'll occasionally drop some Street science on you and some logic that's undeniable and a lot of humor along the way but like if you listen to Joey Diaz the church What's Happening Now what you're going to get is you're going to get you this is your friend it's your friend Joey talking is your Uncle Joey talking to you dog I I'm not I'm not gonna lie to you and and you when you can you can take people like that into your life and they can give you a new map that's right but if you're stuck in Devil's dick hole Kentucky with a bunch of morons that are just plowing corn every day and they they they talk crazy Jesus to you and you just want to run you got no one to talk to at school right you can find something online where you can listen you can find a Neil degr Tyson you ever listen to his his podcast yeah it's excellent right star talk it's

113:26amazing he does it with a comic too that's how smart that guy is he does it with Chuck nice he gets together with the comic so they can banter because Neil's got a great sense of humor so he jokes around about stuff and then sneaks in some science and you're like whoa they'll sneak in some about the nature of gravity whoa sneak in some about them discovering this new planet that they believe exists outside the solar system oh yeah I heard about that Planet X naburu nabiru it's real you oh you doubters you know obviously that's where 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu came from you know that that's the name yeah how validating very validating the reason that probably means there's Chemtrails too well um the reason it's 10th planet and not like Zechariah CA called it the 12th Planet because they were they were counting Pluto and he also counted the moon they counted the moon as a planet like our

114:17moon as a planet yeah apparently the Sumerians had this ancient story of how the Earth was created that is almost exactly the same as the actual astrological astronomical rather story like when astroscience and astrophysicists discuss the creation of the earth they believe there's Earth one and an earth two okay and Earth one was hit by another planet that came around collided with us created the moon and created the Earth like the shape that we currently see right now right now this is some that they had in the Sumerian text they they had two different PLS called Marduk and tiam and these I'm hoping I got the names right they collided with each other and that that formed Earth and that formed our moon like they wrote about this with clay tablets with little squiggly mindes that looked like old school Nails I mean left right up down that was their language and they wrote about this and

115:13this isn't just like some wacky Zechariah siten because Zechariah sit had he was the guy that wrote uh the 12th Planet and he he he wrote all this crazy stuff about the Anunnaki those from Heaven to Earth came these aliens that engineered human beings to mine for gold do you know the whole story behind it only from what I've heard you talk about oh my God it was hilariously crazy but fascinating stuff because this guy Zechariah siten was not before this wasn't quacky at all he's like he's a legit like scholar he's a legit biblical scholar and he's a legit linguist and going over all of this ancient he came up with these crazy theories about human beings being engineered by these aliens that existed thousands and thousands of years ago right and they come around in this orbit an elliptical orbit that every 3,600 years comes between Mars and Jupiter and it wreck it

116:13reeks havoc on the Earth's gravitational pole and the oceans and storms and because you got this giant ass planet and all a sudden makes its way into our solar system and at that's when theying andet over to us like what are you crazy monkeys up to what have you been doing where's my gold and then they a bunch of monkeys and they make some new people and then they go and they jet see you and they take off and they leave behind these stories these monkeys are writing it down on clay and trying to remember why they like gold but they need gold because they suspend gold particles in their atmosphere to protect them from the elements the idea is that gold if you if you gold is incredibly unique and that you can take a tiny piece of gold and we can coat this entire table that's why gold coating like gold plating is so amazing because through a small amount of gold you can

117:03you can stretch it out insanely thin right well gold particles Gold Dust the idea is that they would suspend these gold particles in their atmosphere and would protect them from the radiation of the sun well that sound crazy until there was like this there was a this Symposium on environmental Symposium that these uh scientists did in like the 1970s or no it was in the I believe it was actually in the 2000s now I'm thinking about this but it was you know 10 15 years ago where they were trying to come up with ways is back when remember when everybody's really worried about the ozone layer and hairspray was eating up the ozone layer yeah they were trying to figure out alternatives to protect us from the radiation of the Sun and one of them was suspending reflective particles in the atmosphere siten wrote about this decades before that decades before that attributing

117:51this process of suspending gold in the air so I'm not saying that he's right but godamn it's fun it's a CO story it's so sexy the fact that we that's why we're different from all the other monkeys how much different are we we're soft we don't remember how we got soft you know we have language like pretty much from the jump we've had language for a long ass time writing down on Cave walls we had awesome artwork 40,000 years ago like what what happened where where did we come from everything else is covered in hair and biting the out of each other and all of a sudden this thing in the blank of an eye and no one can no one can guess why what what what caused it why how did this thing go from doubling its brain in a million years or two million years or whatever the it was a short period of Time how did this thing become this thing you know what why this persistent look to

118:37the Heavens For answers why why is God in the heavens why can't God be inside of us why can't God be in the middle of this Earth why is he in the heavens sure cuz the Al They that's where the angels are coming from man come on I got to spell it out for you little tiny people that fly they're aliens man they're coming down they're grabbing the monkeys they're going to jizz them they're going to take them up in the they're going to take them up there and do some experiments oh how confusing' be so awesome if it was so true to be by an alien be the best probably the best you'd probably be really bummed out with people you only have one dick dude yeah aliens have like 30 dicks they put them everywhere in your body like I don't even like dicks but they their dicks are like ecstasy tasers a great imagine if their dick was like an ecstasy taser if like the females di to everybody has dicks

119:25they open up their jacket like those dudes that would sell watches and they reveal a thousand dicks just swing out and grab a hold of you and ecstasy Tas you why do they have to have dicks they're not dicks they're like a tentacle type thing that's what they say to make you feel but it comes inside you but there come is ecstasy don't worry human this is not a dick I know it looks like a dick and tastes like a dick yeah that seems like a really inefficient way to Harvest Gold though man it's like these are you know the problem with those theories is like here you've got these Advan super Advanced beings right they they live on a planet that orbits they they figured out a way to like disperse gold in their atmosphere they figured out a way to like evolve monkeys into gold miners but it's like man there's got to be a bet there's got to be a better way to do

120:11that a more efficient way than like flying on your planet to another planet the monkeys turning them into gold gatherers why why is that the only way like it seems It's Not the Only way but maybe it's a good way fun way maybe it's a good way like what do they give a they're probably so far Advanced from us that it's a joke it's hilarious to go down there and do that it's fun yeah it's SeaWorld SeaWorld with people yeah or it's just a kid does it it's just like a group of kids for their science yeah there's there's just no telling right but well who knows by the time they come back around they might be over it they might be so evolved after the 3,600 years if if evolution is exponential they might come back and not even talk to us right then be like just decided to not come back just fly by and go president Trump trump that's going to be like they're going to skyrite it

120:58president Trump sorry we're not talking to you and they're just going to fly by like where you going where you guys going we can't really get to them yet because it takes too long right you know like it's like Mars like they're talking about getting to Mars in like a few decades like I'll believe it when I see it right I'll believe it when I see it right now you can't get to it so if that planet comes searching some scorching around the corner between Mars and Jupiter we're going to go wait where you going where you going come back what's the prediction of when it's going to get here well they don't know if it's ever going to get here this what they found they don't know the orbit of it they don't know anything but there's this is this is it's all connected to the reason why Pluto was taken off of the planet list they realized that Pluto is just a body in What's called the

121:42Kyper belt and the Kyper belt is just on the edge of our solar system and there's a drop off at the end of it that they call the galactic shelf right and that has been indicating to some some scientists who are willing to venture willing to explore the idea that there's a large massive body outside of that that's causing this drop off that's CA causing this Galactic shelf so as their understanding of our solar system gets better noticeably like wider like as as they can look further back and further distances and telescopes keep getting better and their calculations and the way they can figure out how to spot planets in other solar systems they're way better at it now than they've ever been before that's when they're pretty sure they're like we're pretty sure there's another planet out there but it could there's also some speculation at least there was a few decades ago that

122:32it could be a brown dwarf star that we could have a binary uh solar system that in fact many solar systems are binary meaning there's more than one planet yeah there's a there's a single one and then there's uh there's the one that we have that's on right now and there's one that burned out already and that burned out one one is is way the out there where it doesn't emit any light anymore wow so this is this massive object outside of Pluto so that was one theory that they had but I don't think they go with that one anymore because as far as I'm I know they've narrowed down the size of this thing at least with the current data to be about four times the size of the Earth wow so there's something four times the size of the Earth which is still tiny in comparison to the Sun and and Tiny even comparison to Jupiter the sun is a million times bigger than the earth so if this thing

123:21is four times larger than the earth well I don't know what that means if it's a planet or if it's a you know a giant object like what exactly is it did it used to be a sun is that possible I don't know if that's possible I know find out how big it's supposed to be how because I'm pretty sure I'm right that they're thinking now with their current data that it might be four times as big as the Earth which is still pretty trippy that there's some rock spinning around out there that's a planet bigger than us but isn't like Jupiter way bigger than Jupiter's on a real planet though I mean it is a planet it's a gas giant yeah like there's a center somewhere in there I guess like a Tootsie Roll Pop I don't know how many licks it takes to get there though a lot a very big tongue it's so big they have storms on Jupiter that're bigger than Earth they've been going on for a

124:07thousand years did you um did you follow this thing with the detection of the gravity waves yes that's pretty crazy right I don't understand it I'm too stupid well I think I can explain it I'm going to try so uh so okay so the idea is right right we know that the the lead ball on the mattress creates these IND indentations in space and time right so the idea is if that's the case in time space as they say so if that's the case and you guys I'll probably it up I'm going to try if that's the case then what would happen if two super massive things collided right like two giant black holes thousands of times larger than our sun or two stars or what what happens out there if these giant things Collide then that should create ripples because it's so enormous that when they hit together it creates these ripples in the fabric of SpaceTime and these are known as

125:02gravity waves right so to measure these ripples would be incredibly difficult for a lot of reasons one because they're very fast the other one is because if I'm like okay so if I want to measure like the distance between two rocks and a gravity wave flows through it then it should theoretically since it's a it should con it should expand and like widen out the distance between those two rocks there's going to be like a expansion as the thing rolls through it by a micron by a tiny little bit it's going to either widen or lengthen or both I think both so for a second so how do I measure that if when the gravity wave passes through it's also going to make my measurement device expand and contract and it's also going to make me Contra expand and contract so there's no way to measure it because every everything will uh move with it so how do you measure it so they have this

125:55thing called an infer an infometer or something infometer you can look it up it's this giant L-shaped thing that shoots a laser that hits a mirror on one side and shoots a laser that hits a mirror on the other side creating this beam and that's the speed of light right it's the laser bouncing back and forth at the speed of light so that means that it could measure a shift in the gravitational wave because nothing goes f faster than the speed of light which means that that laser you're going to be able to tell if it follows the prediction of what would happen if a gravity wave rolled through right there's two of these things uh and they're hundreds of miles apart so if a gravity wave rolls through the Earth then both of them would theoretically have these exact same minor shifts right and so that's what happened man they like now when they're doing these uh

126:47when they're doing these studies uh when they're testing they act they they send in fake gravity waves just to make sure the scientists are monitoring everything right and and so uh the guy who observed it for the first time got this reading and was like holy uh or is this one of the fake uh one of the fake waves that they s through but that he realized that they had cut off that part of the experiment for a few weeks so he knew they weren't doing that I'm I'm lost you there so anyway the point is it was like the story of them like discovering this is is uh amazing because finally this like shift happened but the the the long and short of it is look at what it picked up like show what it was picking up it picked up these two things smashing into each other a far far away like a billion years ago it picked I know man it's nuts look look at that it's I mean that's obviously not

127:49the real picture but um it's just something insane to think that uh you know what's up that is not the real picture but no the real pictures that they do have of what's going on in the Galaxy you ever see a picture of a stellar Nursery no I I mean I've seen the Hubble pics if that's what you're talking about you know what a stellar Nursery is like where Stars Are Born you mean like with this huge show me a picture I bet I've seen there these these structures that appear a lot of the pictures that you see though are artist Recreations a lot of them because there's a lot of weird that you see on the internet you're like is that wait can we see that for real like this there's planets here like this is real like look what the are you looking at there man right look at that that's a stellar Nursery that's the a nursery like where stars are ejected out into the universe

128:42right from this gigantic structure that's probably you know how big is that I mean and how hot is it over there can we even understand how big that is I mean does that even even register in our stupid little brains I mean if you looked at a photo of the Earth in perspective what would would it even be visible on that screen it would be Pro you would probably need to blow it up a million times to see the Earth need you need a microscope you'd have to look what the is that what is that is that a demon flying through space that's what it looks like but is that real or is that a photo is that a photo NASA telescope captured it what the man wa is that that's crazy like just understand for a moment just try to wrap your head around the idea that those are infinite Suns those are all suns those little dots Little Stars most of them way bigger than our sun and they're all

129:37all over the place yeah and it just goes on forever like we our brains can't do it we can't there's no perspect like youa today we were talking and uh and I asked you how far are you shooting your bow and you like well I've done some calculations of my uh phone I see about 50 yards I go wow you're shooting 50 yards you're like yeah I go that's amazing and then we go outside and I brought you to a Target that was 20 yards away you're like oh man I can't shoot that far yeah like that that was a hard moment for me but just but that we had a an actual detector see like it's really hard to just judge based on like taking footsteps and but with those rang finders they have these range we have one in here somewhere this one right here this thing this one this is uh this is what I think that one's for golf but you you press a button on that sucker and it puts an x on the screen the other side

130:35you're holding it wrong don't don't cover the lens you press a button on it and it'll show you how far thing this is probably too close to use in here you most of them need at least like 10 yards or some sometimes more sometimes 15 yards like the binocular ones they have binocular ones that work that way they need like 30 yards anything inside of 30 yards they can't detect but you we we use that and then you get this perspective and that's 20 yards it's a tiny distance our sense of what infinity infinity infinity our sense of the infinite space that's in in the universe the idea of a stellar Nursery being a 100 million light years or whatever the it is away from us we can't we can't can't we can't imagine it's not available to us we still have the same little monkey brain and I was looking at this thing the other day of chimps where they showed uh we we we

131:32showed it on the podcast the size of a chimp's brain in comparison to side size of his testicles it's insane they're really close yeah his testicles are like that big and his brain is like double the size of his balls no way oh yeah oh yeah look oh God that poor chimp that's how he ended up you poor guy how sad so imagine with our our balls which are smaller than his and our brains which are larger than his and it's just going to keep going in that direction but what what we're what we're dealing with here is just an advanced version of that we need way better we need a better Meat Wagon in order be able to comprehend these numbers right in order to be able to figure out what the what does infinity mean what what does it mean what does a Nursery what is Infinite Space what is time what is gravity what is all this we're we're like repeating these super

132:29Geniuses have worked their whole life on and we're butchering it and ruining it in a podcast but what we're we're all doing is we're all slowly but surely going to go from being that chimp to being some new thing to just continue to do it to continue to grow continue to process and whether it's through technology whether it's through manipulating our genetics we're going to become something that gets this whole thing we're gonna become some new some new thing but here's the crazy idea man you're already that thing here's what this is where it gets really fascinating it's like you're already that thing that's the game the game is you're already that thing pretending you're not the thing doing some form of recreation that involves being astounded by the infinite enormous size of the universe because of your particular tiny tiny tiny little body and so the game that's

133:23that's the game that we're involved in you already are everything experiencing this very temporary illusion of being somehow not a part of everything you already are the everything your atoms your um your your Atomic makeup those atoms inside of you they're essentially infinite they they they will go on forever we've talked about this before but that's what you are you are Infinity experiencing itself pretending that you don't know anything at all and so this head in the sand thing we were talking about getting caught in caught up with your bills your relationship your hair are I boobs symmetrical am I uh a good person all of this stuff is a very temporary fleeting uh experience that Infinity is having as you and so you are the thing like No Matter What technological enhancements that happen that maybe makes you live longer maybe allows you to download your

134:25Consciousness into a computer experience a million orgasms at once and a wow any of these things you're still um you still are the you still are the infinite these are just distortions in the field of experience the idea is and I think it's a very beautiful idea you don't need the goddamn Singularity to experience this you don't need need the singularity to experience being something greater than you you don't need to become a transum you don't need to become an h plus you don't need to get a chip a neural implant into your brain you can if you just spend enough time sitting still experience what it's like to have your identity dissolved for a second it's not that easy though to just sit still and it's not just sitting still it's sitting still with a method it's sitting still with an understanding of what you're trying to achieve it's s sitting still with tools that'll allow

135:22you to manage your Consciousness during this process well you know you got to get better at it I I think that if you well me don't you think it's it's a it's I think it's a discipline oh it's a discipline but the idea of like so I mean there's so many different versions of it so like you know some versions have very specific you know breathing patterns or ways that you're going to like that whatever your meditative technique is but then some of them just say look don't worry about all that just find a place anywhere and sit down for a second you know like I remember once I was asking my girlfriend she was sitting we have this like a Puja table at our house is what it's called highly recommend it sounds cheesy but it's fantastic create a little space put in that space people that you love people that inspire you people who are awesome doesn't have to be Jesus the

136:13Virgin Mary it can be anybody you're inspired by create a space with these pictures and then maybe throw a picture on there as some somebody that you hate and you sit in front of this uh thing and you just like look at these people that you love and then maybe look at the person that you don't like so much and you try to transfer that love to that person to clear out the godamn when whenever you hate anybody your operating system's got a bit of a disturbance in it so you want to like fix that connection if you can but anyway she's just sitting in front of this Puja table we have and I asked her are you meditating I shouldn't have done that it's rude if someone's meditating but I'm like are you meditating she's like no I'm just sitting here I thought that was so funny because it's like oh right you're not you're not officially meditating you're just sitting but if you look at what zaz

136:59Zen means or what someone told me zazen means the Zen meditation it means just sit there's no big anything to it there's not some fabulous incredible insane thing you're doing just ask yourself when was the last time I sat and didn't move for 5 minutes when was that when was it I think you're you're looking for all the same things in so many different things that we do I think we're all looking for this moment where everything sort of sinks up and makes sense and feels harmonious you know and I think I hate to bring it back to archery again but I think that's what you're really enjoying about those moments where you release that Arrow like I'm seeing I watched you uh shoot some arrows today and I'm seeing like this pleasure in you like when you're you're in the proper stance and you're releasing the arrow and you're watching the path and everything looks good and

137:55you're releasing it and there's this when you have mastered that moment even for a second or two you see this yes you see this burst of ah where you're not there anymore and you're existing through the shot that's it you're existing through your jokes you're existing through a rant on a podcast you're existing through making your girlfriend come you're existing through waving to a friend you're existing through the experience you give other people when they're around you you're existing through those things yeah you know and those when you nail it in all forms it's all they're all similar and related that's right man they're well they all have at their core of the same thing like it's it's the you're you're touching the core of what you really are and and you know that's why meditation is I think is so incredibly misunderstood uh and something that really isn't isn't isn't that different

138:49from any other thing that you're doing float tanks float tanks is is that's the real meditation that's meditation Advanced if you want a vacation from life and an ability to step back and really look at yourself yeah you could sit in the corner and you can just do it that way and there's nothing wrong with doing it that way there's nothing wrong with going out on a hill and sitting and and just overlooking a beautiful field and taking in nature and and meditating in that way that's a meditation in and of itself it's almost like an an energy absorption like you're taking like some power off the battery like you're feeding it you're feeding off of it but the float tank is where it's at man and those things are exploding now people are realizing it now for the first time in decades how important those things are there was this big uh story that I uh printed the other day

139:34about the basketball team the the um the Golden State Warriors they use it every week makes sense they like dud the biggest one in the world just open up in Pasadena yeah just float um f lab just open up one in Westwood they open up a big location in Westwood they're exploding now they're every they're over the world yeah people love it they they finally getting it people are finally getting it this thing is like the best way to have a vacation from your thoughts or to be alone with them rather have a vacation from your body I should say it's great because you're you're peeling away all the goddamn stimulus I mean I guess if there's like with meditation if there was some kind of like well they do call it a practice but the reason they call to practice is because a lot of meditation is like you're sitting there and the dog will start barking right um got to kick it right well you got to

140:23throw it into the wall my dog you have to you know see but you sort of like this is this is the I'm just kidding of course guys obviously when you're meditating you get up and throw your dog but this is like uh so so like uh romdas talks about like giving this meditation class and people were meditating and there was like a siren that kept going off and people were getting annoyed it was like by a firehouse I guess so the fire truck would leave or the fire truck would come and people were getting annoyed you can't meditate there's always a siren and he's like That's Just Energy like you're hearing this is Just Energy going into your body and your body is turning into the sound of a siren but this is just Grist for the- Mill is what he called it this is just another form that the universe takes the sound of a siren and so when you're meditating you start

141:11watching yourself right so and uh so the dog bar like if I'm sitting meditating the dog will bark and I will watch myself so now I watch the way that my body reacts when the dog Barts from the physical kind of like a very slight tensing up to inside a feeling of frustration which just dog would shut the up and but I'm but now I'm watching that so whoa this is what I do and I'm annoyed by something and now you can watch the way that annoying feeling emerges and dissipates and that's like the meditative process whereas a flow tank you're stripping that extra thing away so now it's just the sense of being there minus having to deal with the disturbances so much even though they are in a float tank you'll still get some disturbances you know you're you'll notice the way that you're that you're breathing or you'll feel some burn where there's like a cut on you or maybe a

142:06drop of water will land and hit you in the head or something like that but well you got to squeegee the roof before you go in that's a big part of it yeah they um there's guys who have invented some workarounds for that there's a guy that owns a place in Austin uh zero gravity in Austin he's figured out a way to um he's got a different his his are made out of like ship holes yeah they don't drip yeah they don't drip and he's also got some sort of a a way to ventilate the uh so that there's no condensation on the on the roof of it yeah his tanks are incredible that's Kevin Johnson yeah great guy in Austin Texas if you're there it's a great spot but um um but mine I just give it a once over with the squeegee when I climb in but those those things about like the itches and the all the other than the dripping of the water it's all in your head you just need to just spend enough time in those

142:55things like I don't experience that anymore when I get in the even if I have like a scratch like um Jiu-Jitsu scratches were a problem because like a lot of times dudes don't trim their nails and you get really scratched up but the good thing is the salt bath kills everything right everything I mean all The Nasty funky on your skin that salt torches it cuz you're talking about a th000 PBS of abson salt superal for your body so you just got to suffer through a few seconds of stinging if you got scratch but just breathe all you have to do is concentrate on your breath the key of the tank is breathing in and breathing out just nothing but that put all of your energy on in with the good and out with the bad in with the good and out with the bad and then I stop assigning it a purpose I stop assigning it a like a a quality or a positive or A negative I just breathe

143:44and and and and I don't allow myself every now and then my mind wants to start going about man you got to work on that new bit that's new B got a real hitch in it you got to aband shut the up shut the up you're like God man when are you going to clean your office shut the up shut the up I know what I'm doing and then you you can bypass the land of trouble and confusion there's like a land of trouble and confusion that takes about 20 minutes to get through and you got to just hustle through that land and you got to do the work you got to concentrate on the breathing because if you give in to the land of trouble and confusion let me just hang out here and talk to you guys a while they'll drag you into their Madness come with me come let's talk about your girlfriend from high school maybe if you guys got back together you'd be happy no maybe it's an amazing

144:31story she's got kids you got kids you both break up you know like you know what I mean I mean your boss is a okay you know he's a you got to tell the business manager he's a and you know and you start having these like Wars in your head about your life that are totally unnecessary and counterintuitive to what you're trying to do there what you're trying to do there is escape Escape the whole thing by concentrating that's why yoga is the because yoga is hard to do just like Archer is hard to do when you're standing there and you got one foot up and you you're stretching up like this and you're holding it your whole body shaking and they're like hold hold and you're like you can't you're not thinking about anything other than your breathing and trying to do that because you can't you can't do it when you're when it's that's why that beac guy's a scumbag but he had a

145:18great idea all right he had great idea that 104 temperature too that tests your will it does something to your brain um Dr Ronda Patrick thinks it might create something called heat shock proteins that you get from a sauna there's a there's a positive benefit healthwise to being in a sauna right very positive to a point where she was saying that there was a 40% reduction in mortalities across the board from people that are regular sauna users 40% reduction in cancers heart attack stroke all those things massive mortality drop off because of the sauna because your body produces these heat chock proteins she's like it could very well be going on in those classes you're so hot right your your body's overheating it's freaking the out it's a 104 degrees in there and you're doing unbelievably strenuous exercise I think there's all these different methods that we have come up

146:06with whether it's martial arts whether it's yoga whether it's meditation whether it's the tank they're all trying to get away from the influence of the primate DNA yeah right all of it the jealousy the the the the the wanted materialism the anger and traffic and the nonsense about your career and the interpersonal relationship that we put ourselves through back and forth a a big part of it all is a perspective that was inherited we inherited it from these barbarians that came in each other and just barely made it they they'd live to be 10 and they somebody else and people were probably getting pregnant when they were 6 years old back then who knows what the we were like when we were monkeys you know we had to become what we are today but we're trapped we're trapped with the momentum of that in our bodies trapped trapped but not trapped you can escape but hindered to the point

147:07where it requires it requires input well this is the attached this is why I like the word attached you're attached to it you're clinging to it you're holding on to it you're carrying around this like just a stinking corpse that you think is who you are and you're clinging to it that's the land that you're talking about that you're going through and people don't want to let go of that because that is what defines you that's everything that you are and people want to be defined they would rather be defined than they would be by being undefined but when you've okay so you've sailed through what did you call it the land of trouble and despair yeah so you've sailed through the land of trouble and despair that's that's 20 minutes so what's after that how how would you describe the state after that the state after that is where it gets psychedelic the state after that is

147:56where you you don't exist anymore and you're just you're intertwining yourself with information and ideas and these ideas are bouncing around your head but you don't really consider yourself as you because if you do you'll snap out of it one of the weirder things about the Psychedelic trans that you get from the tank is that it's so pliable you can go in it and out of it and sometimes I lose it and I'm done I'm just laying there for the next hour for the next hour it's gone I'll breathe I'll do but it was whatever it was was such a ripple such a boom right so strange and odd and bizarre and and non non non-dimensional doesn't doesn't uh pertain to anything that you experience in this Dimension so you become something when your body is free of your mind when your mind is free of your past when you just you escape it's almost like you're pulling your it's like almost like a gravitational

148:45pull or an atmosphere rather where you pop out of that atmosphere like a rocket shoots up into space and you float around for a little while and then you come back down you deal with the again but you're when you pop out of the land of trouble and despair it's like you're floating in zero gravity because you're in the tank you literally feel like you're in zero gravity because you don't feel anything anymore because once you've relaxed to the point where the water is no longer distinguishable the air and the water are the same thing and you just feel like you're floating That's Where It's At man you got to get to that space where your body's just totally stopped moving and when you get to that space your body's totally stopped moving and you've gone through the land of trouble and despair you just get to the place of just thought you get to the place of

149:30thought that's free of all the culture and tradition and even language to a certain extent the thoughts stop being like you're relaying things in your head in sentences and paragraphs it it becomes Concepts and ideas that are almost alien to language gets very weird yeah especially when you're on Edibles oh I can only imagine why don't you do it more often why don't you do it more often cuz my tank my zen tank we moved and I put it in the garage and I just haven't set it up that's all I got to clean the garage out I got to order more salt it's all my fault I love that thing it was so nice I was so nice going in there after a workout just going in and just yeah why I don't understand how you don't have it fading and I got to get it set up again I just have to set it up I've got it you have to call somebody you have to do it yourself no I think uh I why don't you call those Zen people go

150:20yo hook no he's I think he's going to be in town to do another podcast I'm to help me set it up again but it's not that I it's that is part of it but the other part of it is I've got a ton of hoer like I have a hoarder problem in my garage like you think your office is bad man my garage looks there could be a dead animal in there like I've got so much piled up I got to clean it out and if I just did that I would have a float tank but also the other cool thing is I live right down the street from just float so yeah I can go down there yeah and Jim's been really cool and letting me like float there so it's awesome oh that's great yeah oh it's nice it's so luxurious those places are booming now they're booming it's so it's so cool well yeah and they should be man because but this this place you're talking about man uh the place that you're accessing through the float

151:09tank and not always by the way sometimes I just go float well the idea is you're always there you're there right now like that place you're talking about you're there right now it's it's just that your attention has been consumed by all the phenomena that are swirling around you at this moment called your podcast so you're there right now and that the the practice of mindfulness in whatever way you can practice mindfulness in a float tank a zindo in your car wherever you want the practice of mindfulness is helping you at least maybe not shoot out of the gravity of the planet of your personality but at least like get into the air a little bit instead of getting cuz this land of what is it sorrow trouble and despair the land of trouble and despair this is like the discursive mind right so this is like uh you know the the idea that uh there two Arrow strikes right so in in every single

152:05given moment there all these phenomena that are happening some of the phenomena you don't notice some of the phenomena you do but there's two Arrow strikes one of them is the initial one that bothers you like somebody cuts you off in traffic right so someone cuts you off in traffic it's a classic example and you go what the what the Jesus Christ almost wrecked right arrow strike the first Arrow strike is the guy cutting you off in traffic the second Arrow strike and the poison arrow is everything that follows now you're in the land of trouble and despair and now your mind has become this Echo chamber bouncing around with all these thoughts of like God damn it people are no one cares about no everyone's so selfish God that at work earlier people suck man yeah that's it they just suck and so now and that's called that's called getting lost right that's called

152:55getting lost so float tanks meditation these are things where instead of getting sucked in to the conversation like you were saying with the many entities that live in this land you just let that first thing hit you I've been cut off in traffic and then it goes away and there might be these thoughts flying around in your head like oh God what an people suck but instead of you reacting ing to those thoughts you just watch them like oh wow that's the part of my brain that thinks people suck watch that wow there it is and now it's gone and that practice makes you a much happier person much Happ over time and you realize what conflicts are real and what conflicts are just artificial which ones you've made up which ones you've just en you've endorsed you've given them license to to participate in your emotions but they really don't exist at all they're nonsense especially someone

153:47cutting you off when nothing even happened you even get an accident oh so you ran into an Welcome To Earth there's a lot of them right and guaranteed he didn't mean to like he didn't you know once might have once man I was like trying to like I I I I was late to get radiation therapy uh and I I I cut somebody off in traffic cuz I had to go get my body radiated at a goddamn radiation clinic and like I'm sick and I cut some off in traffic and I remember they're like you you and I'm like man I've got cancer dude I'm getting fried down at this Clinic trust me I'm I'm like but now when anyone Cuts me off usually I just think man I bet that guy's going to get radiation therapy man let's give him a break today you don't know where he's going you know she might just be getting back from an abortion like you don't understand what's actually happening there and so if you let your

154:40mind trick you then you'll get lost and that's the that's the problem is it's like it's not the screaming after the guy cuts you off it's when you realize that for the last six years you've been reacting to somebody cutting you off in traffic and it's somebody who did some shitty thing to you six years ago and you're still in the car you're still banging the seat well how frustrating is it when you're dating someone they bring up some that you argued with them about 6 months ago yeah oh the worst the worst the worst summoning up summoning up this demon from the past and then like puppeteering it you know like remember this do you remember do you remember you did that you did that you could be talking about something that happened right now like Jesus Christ did you leave the refrigerator door open yeah you left the garage door open a year ago and I still haven't found my bike yeah yeah

155:30yeah what happened there I just asked you if you left the refrigerator to open yeah you crazy and then you realize live in a bad neighborhood but then you realize that crazy lives in your brain because your your brain is always bringing that up about her brain how about fixing her brain she's right next to you you don't need to Wacky start with a crazy girlfriend living in your Consciousness because that that that's the one that's causing you all the problems what if but what if you're living with a girl crazyer then the crazy girl in your Consciousness well this is like yeah so this is like a a I think a a problem many people have to deal with man which is like all right A lot of times you hear it like my parents are out of their mind you know and so you want to like change your parents or you want to change the person you're living with you want to change your kids and uh man I'm

156:18telling you if you really look look at the I really like that uh I've talked about it before but I really like that Clint Eastwood movie Play Misty For Me it's like this old you can get on I think on iTunes it's really good but this guy ends up a fan and the fan ends up uh stalking him and but you realize that he was playing the game uh with with this girl that he had like he was letting her in every single time he was giving her a little bit of something to move on right and like if you're living with a crazy person and you really analyze the th the game the there are some rules of the game I'll tell you a few right away number one you need a crazy person that's the first one so you decide this is a crazy person right that's rule number one I'm living with a crazy person I guess really well guess who's really crazy the person who's decided to live

157:11with a crazy person so there's two crazy people in the house well some people change their behavior though for you and then once you move in with them you realize how nutty they are unless you're like super critical and objective and really analyzing someone's Behavior you do a background check I mean how many girls have R moved in with a guy and they find out who's ausy piece of once they got that's true you're right that's true how many guys have been with a girl and then as the relationship goes on they start to blame you for their failures in life and you become the the magnifying glass of all their personality imperfections get the out of there but but that's that's the only answer then but like if you're but a lot of times a lot of times though man A lot of times if you look and I don't just mean living with a girl I mean living with anyone but if you look

158:02or or being at work with anyone or anyone you interact with on a daily basis who you have uh some weird with right now right the next time you're interacting with them and about to get in the old classic fight you know just watch yourself just watch yourself gear up and you will notice a lot lot of the time that you're the one who's getting into this that you're the one you want it to happen you might notice a lot of the time I'm not saying this is always the this sounds super personal what I well that's all I got is myself that's all I got as myself and this is like so this is the uh the concept is sha I've talked I think I've talked about in the podcast it's it's something Pima choan talks about which is uh God we're going back to Archer again so sha is the feeling of pulling back the bow string or the feeling of preparing to strike right so with mindfulness you start learning about

158:56that feeling right so someone starts pissing you off you start preparing for bow and you prepare for bowle and you realize prepare insults yeah you want to be right you've pulled back the bow and you want to be right really you want to put the couch there really cuz I just don't think it belongs there you want to put the couch there now if you think about is there a right place for the couch in the universe that we were just talking about don't put the cows in front of the fireplace catch on fire you stupid but aesthetically we exist in a universe with star clusters that are giving birth to stars and you have decided this must be the right place for the couch right and that's sha you're pulling it back you're going to fight this stupid fight when instead you could be like you know what yeah that's a perfect place for the cats you know what happens when you do that

159:40you end up with a chick house and they dominate the whole place they start with a couch and then they move to the sheets and next thing you know you're you got a too brush you got Valen fluffy fluffy cover over your pillows you got Valentine's Hearts hanging on your Buddhist that's uh my 5-year-old put that up there I love it man and sure you end up with that you end up with the chick house but you know that's that's little girl house that's slightly different than a chick house chick chick house is different they'll start they'll start putting scented candles around you'll come home some music you hate will be playing Just Let me listen one more song just let me listen to this one song so here's what your mind just can you put headphones on while you're on your computer what you care what I play really loud that's awful that well that's what you're so the m so here's

160:26what the Mind does a thing happens couch fight the Mind instead of just thinking like in this moment I'm getting in a fight and inside of me my level of passion over this couch is like I'm fighting for my life so then you look at the well why am I getting so upset about this because the mind is telling you if this couch ends up here it's going to be a matter of time before she starts her personal trainer yeah if she starts her trainer you're going to be wearing dresses you're going to you're going to end up you're going to end up sucking a trainer's and you're going to be in a chick house that's the mind telling you that's what I'm saying dude it's not real dude it's not real it's not a slippery battle there's a battle going on lose lose the battle battle yes try to lose I'm not saying don't lose the battle okay I'm telling you right now if you have a mortgage don't lose the

161:19battle don't lose the battle over the mortgage don't lose the battle if you know if she wants you to sign a uh she doesn't want you to sign a prenup don't lose the battle no I'm not talking about those battles I'm batt are real man those are real battles consequen I'm talking about in general most battles that you're fighting they don't have that much of a consequence and if you really want to talk about losing the battle and I'm not talking about rolling over for your girlfriend or for your boss or for any of these people I'm talking about those little tiny conflicts you create so that you can feel what it's like to overpower someone and win in every single moment the winning thing I'm going to win that's what I'm talking about that's like the most toxic thing in a relationship right if you're with a girl and it's it becomes wasn't that Billy Joel song

162:02about that matter of trust just just lose practice losing and and I don't know about all that about practice living with how about here's the thing though you you I definitely believe that you're correct in that you will trct the type of people that you deserve you deserve the way you believe and the way you could run into nutty people you can up you Zig when you could have zag for the most part the people that you let in a lot a lot of times they reflect where you are as a person so if you find yourself involved in these shitty relationships over and over again you might want to look inward you might want to look at what you're putting out there and what kind of people you're letting in and what kind of circles you're hanging around in and what kind of Interest you're pursuing what kind of things are you focusing on and why has that led you to be in engulfed in this

162:49world of stupid well and and and but yeah and in the world of stupid that you're in it's like you're in the world of stupid fine you you got into the world of stupid whatever but really if you start looking at like this is they call it threading the necklace right you're threading the necklace and every single moment you're threading this necklace of suffering so in every single moment you're bringing into that moment all the past battles you lost all the past battles you won all the compromises you made you're bringing into that moment your idea of here's what's right and here's what's wrong and the question is how much of your understanding of what's right and how much of your understanding of what's wrong is based on reality and how much of it is based on your own desire to win to overcome and again man I'm not I'm not advocating the concept of becoming

163:41someone who's downtrodden and some girl or boss or situation is like clomping all over you but yeah I I'll tell you I got in a fight with my girlfriend uh like uh a few months ago and I'm I'm sorry cor if this is too personal I got this stupid fight she's got a picture of Bob Dylan right big big picture of Bob Dylan a nice framed beautiful original print of Bob Dylan right I don't like Bob Dylan you know I don't like him he his why don't you like him because because he he he I saw an interview that he did when he was like a super this is before the Kanye thing happened and you know now that I think about it why don't I like Bob Dylan he's got a lot of great songs even though he he s he sounds like a wallet a leather wallet started singing or something it's like I don't know why it annoys me and I and it like it doesn't matter I there's no real basis of liking any we not liking how

164:38does it feel get out of here anyway like so my so I have a bad identification with so she's got this cool picture of Bob Dy and she wanted put it in the guest right and I'm like that picture man you're going to put I got really mad like I don't want Bob Dylan in the in the in the guest room you were explaining what it was that you before Kanye you got sidetracked you were saying there was a thing that he did in an interview that he did oh yeah he was just CUNY to some reporter or whatever I don't know maybe he's having a bad day people love Bob Dylan lot this when he was young yeah he's young whatever it's it's not it doesn't matter he did nothing it's Bob Dylan is a great performer and who the am I to judge him my ego brain doesn't like Bob Dyan it still doesn't like Bob I can't make myself like him I don't like to listen to his music oh long the Watchtower I

165:26don't think it's a basis obviously I I'm not I don't think it's based in reality but so like you know I'm like I don't want that picture up I don't want that picture of Bob Dylan up in the guest room like I don't want our guest to look at Bob Dylan I'm being a dick man and like you know what she does man puts it up there anyway she takes it down and then like I come into the guest room and she's taking the picture of Bob Dylan down and I'm like took the picture of Bob Dylan down she's like yeah I guess I'll just sell it on eBay or something and like in that moment I felt like the biggest to ever lived like God damn it man I wanted to win this battle I wanted to win I wanted to be the Victor and I won what did I win a wall that doesn't have Bob Dylan on it and like my girlfriend like having like I guess I'm just going to sell this picture that I like cuz my boyfriend's a

166:16dick and it's like that's not winning that's losing like that's fundamentally losing on on every single level now I guess if she'd been like using the picture of Bob Dylan is some kind of like method of torture like to win herself it's different but all I'm saying is a lot of times we make decisions that we think are in our own best interest when really they're because we want to feel like we have won like we're right we want to be right and sometimes you're not right because there's no right or wrong in right let's get back to the root of why what are you doing in the first place like why are you seeking conflict like this I think for a lot of people it's because of what we were talking about earlier these Primal needs that are not met these Primal genetic needs and some of those Primal genetic needs are about overcoming situations overcoming adversity but there's reward systems

167:09built into our brain that's why we give a if a computer beats us and go because what go is is a test what test is something you're trying to overcome you're trying to compete so this this wanting to win with your girlfriend it's a manifestation of some that's deep in our DNA it's not just as simple as lose or just let it happen it's as simple as you have some programming in your body that you need to address with so uh there's there's certain activities that you can pursue that can free you from all this stupidity that's tied up in you and it doesn't have to be that you you know you just let it go and you just lose like there's there's there's other methodologies there's other ways to approach it and I think the holistic way is to do the whole thing be be aware of what the competition is but also drain your body out of all its excess energy because your body's like

167:58an overflowing machine it's like a a g an engine that has too much gas pumping into it it's like choking and spitting on its own energy it doesn't have an outlet you're in a car all day you're drinking coffee all day or you're in a car in the morning you're drinking coffee all day you're stuck in a box you're sitting down you get up your back hurts you piss you go back to work again you're barely moving you're barely moving and your body's designed to run from cats your body's designed to build a house because intruders are coming none of these needs are being met the needs of gathering up your own food that's why there's that Primal crazy feeling when you catch a fish that failing when you got a fish when you bring it in holy you could go to a store and buy a fish it takes 5 Seconds you walk up to the counter yeah give me one of those trout they wrap it up they

168:46give it to you you're done but not doesn't like anything that's right it doesn't feel you don't imagine if it felt that good to buy a fish and when you bought a fish you'd be like oh look at the size of this trout W this is beautiful did you buy this fish this is amazing where did you buy take pictures of everybody's Instagram be pictures of the fish they just bought wow if you show if you show a picture of fish on Instagram you better be cooking that thing you better be explaining some delicious thing you but you could catch a fish you take a picture everybody goes oh man nice Bass right like look I got it yeah there's a primal thing that's right and that primal thing is attached to shooting those arrows too man make no mistake about it that used to be an effective tool oh no the more you do stuff like that the less you're going to fight over Bob Dylan pictures

169:35guaranteed at least you don't even have to do that you just got to drain the body just make the body move make it move get all that excess out of you yeah and and and the it's it's you're right it's exercise is certainly one big part of it man but there's lot it's it's all all connected all connected there's no there's no one thing that you you don't need in that whole puzzle the the main I think the main thing that you you teach is that you don't have to be trapped in the gravitational field of whatever the particular life is that you happen to find yourself and if you find yourself in a life that you don't like if you find yourself in a situation that is not bringing you happy then there are ways that you can escape that gravitational field takes work and it takes time takes a lot of momentum it takes time and that's a big one and a lot of people quit before they get

170:30through I saw a crazy statistic uh not a statistic rather a meme that is probably pretty accurate it said 97% of the people work for the 3% of the people that didn't quit right yeah that's pretty good man and and but you know the whole quitting thing failing that's good too you can you learn from that you learn yeah well it's negative and positive feedback are all important in the loop and the the the mind will tell you after you failed a certain number of times that you will never be able to do it I mean that's part of the thing that's the other trick of the Mind the mind there's two a lot of tricks the mind has one of the tricks the mind tells you this is the main source of suffering for a lot of people is that however you're feeling right now is permanent so that's the number one like bad trip that's one big source of you want to have a bad trip on acid when

171:19you're in hour three let your mind start telling you you're going to be like this forever I'm going to be like this forever man this is never going away 3 hours I know this is never going to go away it's never you will freak you will freak you will freak out if you think you're going to trip for Infinity right so in the same way most suffering comes because people think oh man this situation I'm in it's always going to be like this I'm always going to be fat I'm always going to have a shitty job I'm always going to be broke I'm always going to be sad I'm never going to get out of this hole that's a lie that's not true if you look at your life you've always experienced a change in your emotional state you've always experienced a change in literally every single thing from your body to your surroundings to your jobs to your girlfriends boyfriends it all is in a

172:04constant state of flux so when you realize that then you can let go of the panic that comes when you start thinking like this is going to be like this forever no it's not it's not it's going to change your situation will change and once you start understanding that then it gives you some room to work it gives you some room to actually begin to make shifts or to do experiments man but the mind will tell you oh you have failed look you got fat again you got I got fat I um man I got I was working out non-stop Equinox I got my uh body fat down to 16% Joe Rogan for me that's a big deal cuz I got I get fat and uh I swell up I throw those beard down the old tube five slices of bread of beer and I pump up I get fat so then I went on tour and I got fat again man and like literally fat like overweight because I this my Equinox doesn't let you pretend that I think I'm all right they measure your

173:05body fat and like oh yeah you're overweight so I failed what' you get up to percentage I don't want to say man don't say I just got just I got I'll tell you the percentage I got to by describing the look of sadness in my trainer's eye when the printer thing came out like a combination surprise he's like wow that's how fat I got so I'm still a little fat right now but it's it's diminishing I've been working out three times a week but God damn it I'm going to keep doing it it's a matter of practice I'm going to get fat fine but every time I get fat I'm going to fight against it well why are you saying that you're going to get fat well I'm just saying if I do again but why you saying it that way you're right that's bad that's well it seems like you're giving yourself a loophole it's kind of fun to get fat really well I mean in the process of eating when

173:52you're there in the hole it's no fun but like in the process of shoving pizzas down your throat nobody's like that like if that if that wasn't fun then we'd have a a very different uh very different shape of people listen to everything that you just said earlier about the way you're thinking and hold on for a second before you interject think about everything you're saying about the way people think and about the traps and the way you define your patterns that you fall back into each and every time then think about the intense physical health consequences that you have intimately experienced and the fact that even though you've gone through cancer yes you still will make yourself like a path that you're definitely going to go down where you're going to abuse your body again and put yourself into a State of Shock and overweight and making sure that your

174:42body is compromised pretty significantly right you know when you you're really fat like that you're pretty significantly compromised don't let anybody tell you any different all those people that like want to dance around it and say you know I'm fat and I'm healthy like that's not real it's not real you are not as healthy as you would be if you're not fat you can be fairly robust and overweight but you are compromised you're compromised doesn't mean that you're not functional but you're most certainly compromised you at your best when you're optimal and when when are you optimal you're optimal when you're at a low fairly low body fat not not ridiculous you don't want to be shredded you want to be fairly healthy and you you want to have a lot of nutrients in your diet and you want to keep your body away from any you want to keep your body away from any sugars

175:25and processed and nitrates and all that that you get from sausage and pepperoni and salami sandwiches and cocacola and corn syrup all that that tastes So Glorious going down is killing your body it's true man so why after all that you just said would you give yourself that little the little Loop pole that little mouth pleasure loophole you're right no you're right what is it what is it though okay so okay right so so like when we were talking about of being intimate like this is very intimate great like you're talk but you're talking about you yeah right you are talking about you and you're defining this this struggle and balance and battle and then at the end of this inspirational thing you give yourself a loophole this is what I do I get fat and then I but when I get fat I get healthy again you're right you're right okay okay you're right it's it's got to be like I think because I

176:17think about this right I do think about this right so why do I do this this Loop this clear Loop in my life which I I've gone through a few repetitions of this where I'll get close to getting in shape I won't be what I would consider in shape I'll get close and then I'll it all up so why am I building this house of cards and then knocking it down again and especially after having gotten sick why would I keep doing that right so man I mean look I would love to have like a quick answer for that awesome question question but I don't I mean I could like I don't I could give some easy answer that like but it wouldn't be the right answer I really don't know you allow it right all of it right it's what it all is you're right I'm not a victim right no look there's a reason why you don't smoke cigarettes right yes because you don't allow them right you allow all

177:15this other stuff you say I'm going to eat shitty food I'm going to get I love throwing beard in my face and then you allow it right so you allow yourself some mouth pleasure or some you know some alcohol in intoxication pleasure you allow yourself that right and you suffer the health consequences like readily you like you just that's this part of the program the mouth pleasure is more important than the health so you allow it yeah that's it but you don't allow other like if somebody gave you a bottle of oxyc contant you wouldn't be like oh no I can't eat these all day I don't allow it well I mean I probably take a couple you would too right you like those things but yeah no I know what you mean man you know what I'm saying I mean you allow it sure sure sure I've gotten fat I've gotten pretty close to being fat like for me for me I've gotten you know like I think the heaviest I got was

178:09like 204 or 205 or something like that which is that's 10 15 pounds overweight for me for real like I really shouldn't like my face gets fat get it like I get it here I get it like down here I start to get a little bit of this and I could see it I could see it in my face I could see it in my sides you know and but that was all because I didn't work out hard enough in relationship to how much calories I was consuming yeah it's not that I ever stopped working out but I was eating too much I was eating too much for what I was doing but I get to a point where I realize it and I go okay I see what we're doing here don't get fat get like kind of close to Fat realize what you're doing and don't do it again if you allow yourself to get too far gone then you create this gigantic divot that you can't get out of it's the worst when I get if I got the worst I got like when

178:57I hurt my back was also what was going on too cuz I was couldn't work out as intensely when I was about um 10 pounds heavier than I am now the the worst that it got was all wrapped around like feeling sorry because of an injury not being as disciplined as I could be and allowing myself the Indulgence figuring I'm going to make up for later so I'm not I'm guilty of the same sort of behavior I'm making you aware of but just I'm not guilty of it right now like right now I'm on the straight and narrow and I'm pretty healthy about it and I'm pretty decided that this is how I'm going to eat from now on with rare indulgences just for mouth pleasure but I think that mouth pleasure can't be the big one it can't be it's just not good for you but the big one should be health health should be the big one mouth pleasure should be the occasional foray it can't be daily mouth pleasure it's

179:49that goddamn it's like I'll tell you man like when I'm like shoving some kind of shitty food into my mouth M it there it's like such a it's got such a strong gravity for me like the moment I kick into that mode like when I'm not doing it God man it was so cool and I was training with this guy for a while and you start getting into the into health and like you start getting into that place it's incredible and that stuff holds less of a gravitational pull but man I guess it's some form of addiction or something % a form of addiction it's dopamine there was a whole article about it recently in one of those scientific America I think or one one of those science journals that was uh talking about why it's so difficult for people to quit bad habits because you those bad habits they they trigger dopamine releases in your mind when you remember how great it was to eat those donuts

180:39it let's just do it it let's just give it and have that burger in the beer oh this is great this is glorious but the problem is in you you allow those Pathways to exist if it's not if you don't allow it if the cigarettes never get in your body like I don't allow cigarettes I'm pretty sure it gives you cancer I see people smoking cigarettes I know they get tired quicker I know it's terrible for you right so I don't allow it when I see people smoking cigarettes I'm like well he allowed cigarettes into his life and that's what you're doing like it's not that I couldn't get addicted I think we could all get addicted if I started smoking cigarettes and I realized oh there's a cognitive benefit to smoking on these things I'm just going to Puff on a couple smoke halfed next you know I'm freaking out cu I get of cigarettes why CU allow this demon into my life right and I think the

181:28same exists with processed sugar and getting off of sugar for just a few days just a few days which is not that difficult to thing you just give yourself a pattern for five days that you have to follow this is all I'm allowed to eat this is all just do it for five days you get headaches you realize how crazy it is shitty headaches you start losing weight your your body starts looking different you start Getting Thinner you start being less inflamed sugar is a monster it exists in the form of alcohol too my friend oh I know that's the same goddamn thing that pull the pull of alcohol is the same pull of sugar the demon sugar it's the same pull of the bread the same pole of the pasta dude pasta today to this day drives me crazy if you had a bowl of Linguini with clam sauce right now be like oh look at that glorious just Mal health food just bad Health just glue I know man glorious

182:23glue but it's cool to watch yourself it's cool to watch yourself get sucked into it and it is like you know the thing you're making me realize is like uh I've never thought of myself as a victim but anytime you trick yourself into thinking this is what I do yes then you have tricked yourself into becoming a victim you've decided you're a victim well it's more importantly it's contrary to the entire 2 hour and 20 minutes you were talking about before that moment yeah it's a massive flaw you're right it's it's not a flaw it's just a pattern that you allow because you've you've had it in your life and it's it's such a struggle that you've kind of accepted its existence you're right man you're right you're right this is where the rubber hits the road man this is why I love you as my friend but it's like these kinds of uh these kinds of patterns like I guess the next time I

183:11find myself no see there I'm doing it again I guess when I'm eating cake or the next time I'm putting some shitty sugar in mouth I just have to realize I'm threading the necklace right now like I'm the one who's like creating the version of myself where I'm a little bit out of shape and yes you know and just as long as you realize that you're the one doing it that just throws you into such a funny predicament though right because when you realize like I am completely in control of who I am as a person and in this situation I'm making the decision to sculpt a version of myself that sucks or at Le you know and and and why and when you and so like when you and you're defined by this past version of you like with all the knowledge that you have right now in your head you're still defined by all these failures from a decade ago or more they're all rolling around your head like you have

184:04to repeat them this is what I do man right no you're totally right yeah it's so cool total blind spot man you're right though that is the way that I talk to myself everybody does it it's what I do man we Define ourselves so hilarious well the mind is so goddamn tricky that yeah it man that's really cool you here's one thing that I've gotten out of this whacky diet that I'm on for the last 16 days or so 17 days whatever it is right now it's something after two weeks right I'm not less happy oh right I'm not I'm not less Happy from eating shitty food like my kids had cupcakes last night after dinner these little cupcakes little tiny ones they have 10 gram of sugar one little tiny cupcake yeah like that's insane like how much does a big one have anyway I didn't feel bad I don't feel bad that I'm not getting to eat a cupcake I don't feel bad that I'm not eating a bowl of pasta it looks

184:58amazing I bet it's great when it goes down it's not affecting my happiness right but if I got fat it would affect my happiness right if I looked at myself in the mirror I'm like you SLO what is all this I can grab around here what is all this stuff that affects my happiness it affects the way I move it affects the way my body recovers it affects the way my energy levels are the food I eat 100% affects the way my entire day goes if I eat a big ass salad in the morning with avocados and olive oil and balsamic vinegret and I eat that and I then I have some coconut oil or some MCT oil and some coffee and then I have you know maybe a small uh bowl of blueberries with some uh plain yogurt and I'm eating like nothing but healthy food and then I'll have like an elk steak with some asparagus dude I feel great right I feel great I've got crazy energy my my energy levels are

185:53very high I'm drinking water all the time no juices no no sugar no nothing I am more happy I'm not less happy cuz I'm not getting the sugar right it was only for a couple days it's a trick right it's a trick we've all fallen into man we look at that we go to get a burrito and you get a soda and you're like yeah but the things that you're getting the pleasure out of are tricks and they're not they're it's a temporary thing that will ruin the rest of the enjoyment of your experience in life right it will sabotage it it'll make it less effective it'll make your brain work shittier when your brain is processing a giant bowl of pasta good luck winning Jeopardy good luck your brain's going to be dog with a bowl of spaghetti and meatballs and a beer you've got a dumb brain you got a brain that's like you know everything shut her down shut her down shut all

186:47function down you got critical functions just heartbeat breathe make sure you figure out how to get home all the other contemplating the universe and reestablishing your existence no time sorry bowl full of we just threw it down a hatch got a processes now dude you're there I mean you know in most like religious traditions and especially most meditative practices one thing you never hear people say is just e whatever you want we we're going to just do this thing you just eat whatever you want and and usually there's like some fairly like strict ideas of like what to eat usually it involves eating very simple Foods you know just like eating lentils rice but being very simple in what you what you eat and eating much less than what you eat yes fasting a lot of people recommend fasting fasting has a scientific reason behind it and it's the same thing that I'm trying to do with

187:44this diet it's establishing ketosis a a a state of ketosis where your body's living off of fat one of the best ways to do that is intermittent fasting right fasting gives your body a chance to process all the food that it has in its system and then switch over to using fats this is a normal part of being a person because being a human being for the longest time did not mean three Square meals a day it meant going on these Journeys where you didn't get any food for a couple days and if your body is glucose-based and obviously I'm not a scientist and obviously there's a lot of people that disagree with me and there's a lot of people that disagree with Mark sisen and all these other people de austino all these different scientists and biologists who swear by this ketogenic diet it is a very controversial thing so let me just say this right away I'm not a scientist

188:30I'm just trying it out but the reasoning behind it to me is very rational and it makes sense that if you're constantly taking carbohydrates and you're living off these carbohydrates as your main fuel source which is what you do when you eat a lot of carbohydrates this is what's been established when your body's in a state of ketosis it's living off off of fats you're burning fats and you could take exogenous ketones which is of these things I pour them into water there's a bunch of different companies that create these keto Cana is one that uh my friend Danny uses it I know a lot of athletes that are doing this Kyle Kingsbury who's a former UFC fighter he's really into it my friend Denny propos who's uh one of Eddie Bravo's uh black belts he runs 10th Planet San Francisco good friend of mine he's in a state of ketosis too meaning mostly fats eating oil like coconut oils

189:18avocados things along those lines healthy healthy um grass-fed Meats what about like gluten-free bread is that okay no cuz it's all grains those are carbohydrates and this is not it's not that it's bad what about rice you can exist off rice rice is brown rice okay you can be fine but you're not listening those are carbohydrates if you use that as your primary fuel you're not going to be in a state of ketosis it's easy for your body to process carbohydrates like this but if you're in a state of ketosis your body's processing fats when your body's processing fats here's where it gets really weird in between meals you don't get a crash I don't crash like I was crashing if I had like breakfast okay and if I had breakfast and it was toast with uh potatoes and rice and beans and it's all carbs right I'm eating this this breakfast there's going to come a time a few hours later where

190:07I'm starving dude I'm starving I don't get that right now I'm not getting that I can go a long time without eating like I eat breakfast and then I'm good good for hours and hours and hours of nothing I mean I might have a little snack here and there but I don't absolutely need it like I did when I was eating a lot of carbohydrates yeah I get it I me look I'm just trying this I might go back after 60 days and say I like this but I also like to have a certain amount of carbohydrates in my diet because it makes it easier for me to find healthy foods to eat so I don't think there's anything it's not there's not negative consequences to a carbohydrate based diet but I think there are some positives to consider about being in a state of ketosis so I'm trying it so that's where I'm at right now but but in the discipline in forcing myself to do it it makes me think that a

190:57lot of what we were talking about earlier about not having control of your impulses and your behavior and getting giving into video game addiction or giving into cell phone addiction or social media addiction all these things I think they're all very related and that I think that discip there's a guy that I know his name is jao willink and he's a former Navy SEAL who he's got a podcast now I talked him into it he's got this great book that he wrote uh what where's I think I have it here somewhere it's actually it's actually uh out there on the coffee table extreme ownership thank you fascinating guy exem ownership he's but he's got this one statement the discipline equals freedom and I was like well okay well how do you mean what do you what do you mean by that and he explained it to me in very succinct terms if you have the discipline to get all the done then

191:44you can do things you enjoy and then you're you're not you're not compromised by your lack of discipline you're not trapped by your lack of discipline when you're emerging from a 16-hour binge of playing video games you're stepping outside it's 9:00 a.m. and your eyes are bloodshot you feel like a prisoner yeah and your dick is raw because You' been beaten off the last 45 minutes did you you're a prisoner you're a prisoner to your indulgences the same thing I think can be said with your diet the same thing can be said with indulging the idea of you always being in a state of being overweight the same thing could be said with a million other things that people do that they never follow through on I always wanted to be a singer I never had the balls to pursue it I always wanted to be a painter but I never had the time to paint after my job because I'm working overtime because I just

192:29bought a new car and it's there's there's traps that we will set for ourselves but if you if you give yourself a healthy trap you give yourself like a healthy protocol a healthy directive a healthy pattern that you have to follow you find some peace in that and the thing about this wacky diet is the thing that's most shocking to me is that I'm not any less happy than I'd be if I was eating ice cream or stuffing Pizza down my fat face or letting my book and cheeks I'm not I'm not any less happy I'm happy I'm very happy I'm more happy because I have energy so even if it's not a carb carbohydrate thing even if it's just a I've eliminated sugar even if it's I've just allowed myself my body to take a break off the insulin Spike of eating a giant bowl of pasta even if it's just that whatever the it is it's working and I think they're connected I think it's connected

193:31to me forcing myself to get regular exercise I don't allow myself to not get exercise it's not in there I don't allow it because I've done it before I don't like it right so I don't allow it and in not allowing it it's never an option so if I if my alarm is set and I I get up and it's what's today oh today is death sprints on the elliptical machine well that's what I have to do I just do it because I don't I can't do everything and unless I do everything unless I follow all the that I have on my list I'm not going to be able to go off and and and enjoy a television show I'm not going to I'm not going to appreciate those things because I forced myself to get the done that I need to get done and I forced myself to follow this weird pattern of discipline you could do the same thing well yeah man I mean I know I I could do could yeah it's cool well it's a it's a

194:22beautiful idea it really is like I think there's something like very exciting about it anytime I've pulled off even the most mild discipline in my life the end result is like incredible happiness you were raving about how good you felt once you had started working out with a trainer for a couple of months you were the exact thing you were saying I hurt myself doing deadlifts and then uh because of that injury y I stopped working out and then because of that I use that as an excuse and then I started like I just fell off the wagon again you should you should do something that's a practice that's what I think whether it's a martial art which you tried a little bit in the past but I think the best one for you at this point is probably yoga because I think yoga fits right into your sensibilities yeah that's cool so instead of like having some guy who comes over makes you jump

195:11on a box and skip rope go to a yoga class man well no this guy the guy I work with at equinox George chin the best he's really cool man and so like there's something in that but I'm not going to do that forever I can't afford a trainer forever but what do you what you listen to more more crazy talk what are you going to start not being successful no I mean I want start failing at comedy no I don't mean that I mean I don't want to like I just don't want to have a trainer forever and so you don't want to have a trainer yeah so I'm this is great man this is awesome therapy like you're it's really cool now you're identified like it's cool you're being like very strict on the way I'm talking like to myself no I just I just know you right real good we've been friends for a long time that's true and this is this one thing where you come in and come out of right it's like a trance

195:59when you when you're in the trance I almost got to grab your shoulders wake up wake up but you'll come out of that trans guns Blaze like dude I had a salad I ran four miles it's the best you come out of that TR you come out but then you'll slide you'll slide well this is why I like having a trainer because he forces you to like really work hard like way harder than normally I force myself to work out like a trainer makes you feel like you're like passing out from and it's great and I and the feeling after working out hard like that there's nothing like it I I don't know anything like it it's better than almost anything that I could think of it's the most incredible thing but you have to do it regularly you know yeah and also the diet it's all a diet for me man my real problem is just eating like at night it sucks just eat healthy at night just make just like just put yourself

196:56and I I swear you can do this put yourself on a super strict diet for 20 days just make it 20 days just write down 20 days for 20 days I'm not eating any and make write down what you can and can't eat you know maybe you can talk to a nutritionist that's not hard to do say I want to do this for my podcast I'm going to document it for 20 days I'm going to eat real healthy that's part of the reason why I said I was going to do it for 60 days CU I I wanted to say it on the air I wanted to say it as annoying as it might be to hear me talk about it all the time right I'm I'm saying it because I want to be committed to it that's cool I don't want to like I don't want to say I'm just eating real clean that's a smart way to do it you know force yourself I had a whole scheme when I started working out this last time that I was going to get in really good shape and then talk about

197:40how I did it so I kept it a secret so like I was like man I was working out really I started with Justin I was working so hard man I really was like harder than I'd ever done and then I just blew it and it sucks it happens man it sucks it's it's a constant battle that most people have it's a constant trap that most people have it's super common it's one of the most common things that people fall back on it's the worst shitty Foods I love that you're I I will take into account what you've said honestly man like to continue to be super personal the idea right now when I think dude just do 20 days of like eating healthy when I think about that I feel like this combination of like boredom and despair just like but you can still eat delicious food right that's where it's so confusing you just don't drink fruit juice okay you get fruit juice you're drinking sugar water what about orange

198:38even orange juice no no you're not supposed to have eat an orange right don't drink that this is not normal we we figured out some stupid way to hijack our reward systems and jolt it with sugar I'm eating H I got my OJ I'm drinking OJ you're drinking sugar I mean it's better than soda because there's vitamin C in it but coconut water some of it is okay but if you drink too much of it it's probably sweet right if it's sweet there's some sugars in it right you're supposed to eat the whole thing it's supposed to all be together like you have an orange it's there's a fiber in that thing you're supposed to it's all supposed be a part of it right when you eat an apple that's how you're supposed to get apple juice supposed to get it from the you're not supposed to get a quart of that and throw it down your fat hole right this reminds me there's a great show I

199:27don't know how much time we have but there's a almost uh there's a great show called from fit to Fat to fit yeah I've heard about it they make they make trainers get fat it's badass um there it is yeah this is really cool man and it's like the trainers when they talk about what it's like to get fat like that how their personalities change like they really throw themselves in the hole and it's like it's amazing the psychological component of it like how fascinating it's really you should watch put on 70 pounds on an 8,000 calor a day diet aonis Hill personal trainer gorged on donuts and McDonald's every day man that is badass these guys are bad these are heroes man because they get themselves really sick for these people and then they climb out of the hole well good for them because they are doing it consciously and they understand what what the whole purpose of this thing is

200:15versus like some who just you know tanks and then you have to hear about them pullings back from the brink you know can I um can I pitch these pit pitch your friends I have to announce some dates uh I'm going to be the Denver Comedy Works this weekend I've got a massive tour sponsored by squar space starting at the end of March I'm going to be in Boston Philadelphia uh all over Canada it's all on my website and I'm going to be at the uh Spring retreat and ramda Spring retreat in Hawaii it's a Meditation Retreat I'm doing podcast there and I hope you will come oh you just summon the crazy from all over the world the crazy I love the crazy I love get you it's on my website all the powerful Don you're the best brother you are the best thanks for this this was really powerful thank you very much always awesome all right dunan trussle Family Hour subscribe to that

201:08on iTunes and uh let's see you tomorrow y that was cool man thanks dude really now I just have to