Brendan Schaub & Fight Companion ? (Part 2)

00:00Do do do do. Not at that clock at all. It's dope, right? We live? We're back. Part two, folks. If you hated part one, this one's gonna be worse. Worse, worse, worse. Fucking... I fucking hate this show! You know what my favorite is when people go, fucking shows change, man. You used to fucking be more open-minded. Yeah, people change. What do you want me to do, man? I changed. I changed over five years. Everyone changed. I'm not into fucking Legos and video games, man. I grew up. I definitely don't think I'm less open-minded though. I'm definitely less tolerant for stupid shit though. I just think I've heard it too many times now. I'm like, stop, stop. It's not doing anybody any good. Stop. Yeah, you cut out the bullshit. Well, I cut out like conspiracy bullshit and religious bullshit. It's like, and it doesn't mean that I, I don't know, I'm not willing to consider people's

00:51points of view, but certain, certain things just at a certain point in time, like you keep, can't keep refreshing them over and over and over again. You know, when it gets to a certain point in time, like, for instance, like UFOs. Do I think that UFOs are real? It's totally possible. If we can put a satellite around the Earth, it's very possible that some advanced life form can send a spaceship here from another galaxy. Have I seen anything that makes me believe that it's actually hell proof? No. So when you don't share that opinion, when you're absolutely convinced that the government is hiding details, what makes you really want to believe this? Because you're not saying this based on some hardcore shit. Like I know that if you take this plastic and you put it over fire, whoops, did I fuck that up? If you take this plastic, how did I do that? Exit.

01:43Take this plastic, oh what the fuck you cunt? Watch now, Jesus Christ. If you take this plastic and put it over fire, right? What are they doing? They're playing this again? What are they doing here? I didn't start this from the beginning, did I? No. No, it's a filler fight. They're showing this fight again? The old filler fight. Well, we watched it on. Oh, we already watched this fight. We watched it on the video. Was this on the prelims for the... Was it? Okay. So I guess we watched this again. Can you do? Maybe I'm wrong. Is this a tournament? It's not a tournament It is a tournament It's the heavyweight tournament Oh, that's right So this guy won Yeah Early He's the number one Ranked heavyweight Oh, shaking, dog Oh, shit Look at that little dance moves Oh, look at him go Oh, damn Look at him He's feeling good He's feeling it Look at his trainer in the back Awkward, awkward Yeah

02:35I wonder what music He's dancing to The white people in Denver Let me guess How bad this song is Probably the worst song ever Let's hear it What song is it? I want to hear the song I don't want to hear quadros. Sounds like some Rick Ross. Really? By the way, when I called Quadro Skeletor, I was just joking. He does look like him, though. A little bit, but I'm a little high. I got goofy. I'm not, but he does look like Skeletor. He's very knowledgeable, though. Knows a lot of shit about kickboxing. Yeah, great, man. Still looks like Skeletor. How dare you How dare you He and Eddie Bravo He and Eddie Bravo had like some serious beef back in the day What Yeah Over what Probably doesn't want to talk about it I probably shouldn't have been talking about it I'll tell you afterwards Was it legit beef though It's horse shit It's all stupidity Don't let Eddie fucking get a hold of you

03:37All stupidity No, no, no, no Not like that Oh, didn't come to that It was like Gossip Yeah, I'll tell you that I'm down for that You definitely tell me how to do it Hey, people change People grow and they move on. Speaking of growing and moving on, what? Segway! In between the fight, you might have mentioned something that you might have wanted to. Yeah, I'd rather it come from me first, especially on this platform, than from anyone else. Things have just got too crazy, man. It's like the perfect storm, and the UFC wanted me to sign the license deal with Reebok and the random testing, the VADA testing, whatever the fuck it is. Really, I was just going to write this out, and I wanted to do one more fight, but with the fighter and the kid, how crazy it's become, and I never thought it would become this,

04:31and the live shows, and now we're going on tour, and I have this other gig I got on a big network that I can't talk about until it's done and the merchandise and all this stuff. It just – I've got to step away from the game, man. I've got to step away from the UFC for right now. You know what I love about fighting? We were talking about this, that you could just say, I'm going to retire. And then you could say, like, in a week from now, I'm unretired. And then a week later you could say, retired again. You could, yeah. Yeah, you could go back and forth for sure. Like, think about Sugar Ray Leonard. How many times does a coal miner retire? Usually once. Just once, yeah. There's no press conference. I retired like a half a dozen fucking times. And I get it with fighters, man. But for me, you know, and I talked to my family and close friends,

05:13and you were one of them, and Callan and, you know, my dad. And going through it, man, it just, do I want one more? Fuck yes, man. But it just, it doesn't make sense. I can't see myself, and when it comes down to this, I can't see myself in a fucking Reebok kit walking out to that octagon. I can't see myself being like, you know what? Cool, man. Yeah, that's what I'm worth. I'm worth $10,000 to you guys. I'm going to do this, you know? And I have other opportunities. And everything I have, and people think I'm this hater on the UFC or whatever, I owe it to the UFC, man. I'll always be indebted to the UFC. People think I have a problem with Dana White. I definitely don't. If Dana was in trouble and texted me right now and said, Hey, Shob, I wish you'd quit talking shit about Reebok or I need help. You got it, man. Cool. Done. I'll always be a supporter of the UFC and whatever they need.

06:05But for right now, I got to take a step away and focus on this crazy freaking entertainment podcast career I got going on, man. I'm so blessed. And you are. And I think that there's moments like that where necessity becomes the mother of invention, like necessity to figure out another way to generate income. Because the $100,000 you were making from sponsorships, which is 100% real and legit and certified and authenticated, proven. that's a lot of goddamn money you're missing out on every time you would compete and so because of that it makes you concentrate and put even more effort into your podcast and into your merch set and then look how everything's going I mean it's it's insane how much money you guys are making and more important it's insane how many people you guys are entertaining and how many people you

06:52guys are reaching I mean it's insane when I did that live show the other night I dude I thought calen and never and our agent were honeydicking me like this thing's selling out and I got on stage with that mic I was like oh oh man this is what I'm gonna I love this what what this is insane man yeah oh now they want to do this tour and the things are selling out it'd be tough for me to say no you know what let me go fight some monster who's been training full-time not telling dick jokes and you know what I'm saying and selling fucking big brown shirts full-time let me go fight that guy I wouldn't do the game of disservice you know I'm saying I wouldn't do that so unless I could focus on it full time. There's just no way and and signing this Reebok deal. It's not going to happen, man

07:33Yeah, I I completely understand where you're coming from and I completely understand the idea that if you're not a hundred percent Focused on fighting. It's just not something you should do I've always told people that fighting should be a singular pursuit I think it's unlike any other any other pursuit where if you're gonna do it You have to make sure that all your eggs are in that one basket I really don't think you could have one foot in the game one foot out of the game I think it's real dangerous to do that with fighting and not be good Yeah, because you're gonna fight some fucking guy who's all in and those all in those all in murderers They're out there those all in guys, you know, you run into a rumble Johnson who's all in 100% man with no other option and listen to me and people might beg to differ. I feel like I've won man

08:19I have no brain trauma that I know of, and my body's in good shape. I have this insane career right now with podcasts and live shows and this other gig I get going on with TV, and I feel like I've won. And honestly, I owe it to the UFC, man. I'm indebted to them forever. I'll always still watch every fight, and who knows what happens in the future. But for right now, there's no way. They could offer me anybody, and there's no way. There's no way I could put all this on hold and be like, yeah, let me go take this fight. Well, it would be hard because all this has been an investment in your time and it's also been paying off and it also is growing like considerably for people don't know like your numbers. Like I know where you guys were a year ago and two years ago and I know where you are now.

09:03And it's it's this crazy exponential thing where every month it comes up and up and up and up and up. And it's because it's good. And you guys get a weird dynamic. You know, Cal is such a fucking goofball. And, you know, it's like he's like a built in joke all the time. Like, he'll always say something ridiculous, and you two together are funny. Like, it's a funny group. It's a funny grouping. It's interesting. And the thing is, what I'm doing, listen, man, my two advisors are Joe Rogan and Brian Callen. What? What the fuck? I got the Mount Rushmore, you know, guys who have done shit who are saying. For sure listen to me and not him. No. Listen to me right now. Real quick. Hey, that's me being friendly to Callen, all right? That's me being friendly to Callen. Brian will give you some fucking goddamn horrible advice. I'd be selling used electronics. Fire and Kid use electronics.

09:50If I was, Callan was advising this fucking thing. He wanted to open a pawn store. That's a different story. A what store? A pawn store. A pond? Like a pond. Like a pond. Like a pond. Like a fucking pond stars. You know what I'm saying? Oh, a pond. Yeah. For real? For real. Wait a minute. This was a horrible idea he had. He wanted a pond. I thought you said a pond. Like he wants to open up koi ponds. Like, okay. Fire and Kid ponds. That's really a weird way of looking at things. Maybe people like ponds. No, you wanted to sell. These guys are going off, dude. Oh, homeboy got blasted. This fight is fucking crazy. But yeah, so long story short, I'm stepping away from the game, man. There's going to be no Shaub Reebok kits out there. I'm not finding one anytime soon. Did they ever make a Shaub Reebok kit? Could I get one as like a collector's item?

10:38I think they did for like a week, and then I came out and just talked all this shit, and they're like, oh, shit, pull that shit down. Pull that shit down right now. Did anybody buy one? Do you get any money from those? Probably like 14 cents or some shit. I don't know the deal. But sure as fuck, not as much as selling my own shit. Oh, well, no, because then you get all of it. Exactly. And we just released shirts, and I made, you know, I'm not going to talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a little bit of money. You're doing good. I'm doing good. Everything's very good here. I'm doing good. Everything's nice. There's no need to be struggling. Nah, there's no one struggling. I sell more shirts than Reebok kits. Well, here's the reality. You guys, what you've done is a real show. It's a real show. It's just like having a TV show.

11:17And people don't think it's a TV show because it's not on NBC or CBS or Fox, but it's the same goddamn thing. It will be. That's what we're filming in November. You're not supposed to say that. No, I can say that. Yeah, that's all. We start shooting in November. We have the director of the production team. That's what we've been doing, writing episodes. It's a show. Like it's a successful entertainment vehicle. That's what it is. And that's what podcasts are. And they seem like they're horseshit. And people used to make fun of him before. You know, Howard Stern, before he got into that thing with Ari, he made fun of podcasts when Adam Carolla came on his show. He was like, are you hurting for money? Like, what's going on? Meanwhile, Adam Carolla owns a fucking giant warehouse. He's got like 10 different podcasts running simultaneously. He's raking it in.

12:04Well, people are threatened by it, right? And also, the thing with podcasts, there's no kind of standard to start a podcast. So if Joe Schmoe wants to start one, he can start one. So there's a ton of them out there. But there's some fucking awesome podcast. Just like anything. There's a ton of shitty radio shows out there. There's a ton of shitty TV out there. But there's a bunch of good content out there, man. 100%. There's some real good ones. Damn, this dude in the white, he keeps landing those fucking leg kicks on this dude. The other guy's name is Willness, too. Is Willness on the right? Yeah. In them basic-ass basketball shorts? He said, fuck it, huh? He didn't get the Reebok kick. Give me those eighth-grade basketball shorts. These guys are kicking the shit out of each other's legs, by the way. Straight up. It's hurting my legs just watching this. Ugh. Boom. Big uppercut.

12:51Huge left hook. This is a good fight, man. Great fight. But they're standing right in front of each other. This is an MMA fight for sure, so I'm going to be in half guard right now. Yeah, which I prefer. You know, it's weird, right? MMA really is the perfect sport because as cool as this is to watch guys go off and stand and strike, the reality is they're so open for takedowns it's not realistic it's not a real fight yeah it's not it's a difference it's almost like a skills fight fight it is a fight but it's a kickboxing fight it's a fight fight with a with a set agenda like a fight fight some shit's gonna go down we might go to the ground whatever that's why people love the ufc three minutes as opposed to five minutes it's kind of interesting because it's easier to stand and strike like cardio wise than it is to grapple and strike at the same time.

13:40The only difference is if we grapple, I can get breaks. Maybe. What if you're fighting Kane? There's no breaks. That's how Kane breaks dudes. True. He breaks you because there's no breaks. Kane would take some breaks, though. Well, he did in Mexico. Like fifth round when he's balls deep in your chin with his head. You're already dead. You're already dead by then. You're fucked. And he's like taking a second off. Then he's going back to beating your brains in. Yeah. A la Junior Dos Santos. He's taking tiny little breaks. Oh, no. He's taking years away from your life. Oh, he's definitely doing that. Junto Santos is like, huh? Not the same dude. Yeah. You're batshit crazy thinking that's the same dude. He's the same dude after that fight with Fabrizio. I've heard a lot of things where, you know, Kane didn't have the great camp. He didn't get there. You know, I've heard a ton of them.

14:23He definitely didn't get there early enough. Correct. Still got his ass wet. Yeah. But this is Kane, man. So I've heard a lot of things that went on there. So I think they fight at sea level. You know, we're going to see. But to say that fight took years off Kane's life, no, I don't think so. Not like the same way Junior Dos Santos Kane did. Do you have any reservations about them fighting in Brazil? If I'm Kane, I'm like, what the fuck? What the fuck's wrong with you? What the fuck's wrong with you, man? I've been champ for how long? Now you're going to throw me to the wolves? Can we get some drug testing this bitch? Fabricio's the champ. They'll still be drug testing. It'll be Brazilian drug testing. It should be fine. Yeah, that'll be fine. That works for everybody. I think Vitor Belfort's doctor is responsible for some of that over there. Yeah, for sure. So he knows what he's doing.

15:10Oh, don't get me started. I fought in Brazil. I was like, huh? What? I don't feel good. You have the truck exhaust pouring into my locker room. Ah, you'll be fine. Swear to God. No way. You'll swear on my life. You have the truck exhaust pouring into your locker room? The back-up trucks where I fought in, the trucks were backed up and on, and the exhausts coming into my locker room. Come on. We're all sleepy, and my coach goes, bro, bro, wake the fuck up. I go, what? Oh, I'm there six hours early, by the way. He goes, wake up, dude. Everyone, and everyone's like down. He's like, it's the truck fumes. Come on. You gotta get out of here. So we have to go outside and warm up outside. No. True story. That's crazy. That's like getting drugged. Things are weird, man. You're in Brazil. You think you're in a knock? No, get out. You don't bring a striking coach.

15:56You're sucking fumes in from trucks. Terrible idea. There's a lot of things that could have gone better. In that situation. Isn't it weird how life works out, though? It all leads to this. Yeah, it is weird how life works out. Well, you know, it doesn't always. Like, some people are defeated by setbacks. And some people use setbacks to move forward. It's like we were talking about Ryan Bader. He's a perfect example. A couple years ago, people were writing Ryan Bader off. It wasn't that long ago. I agree 100%. And now look at him. I agree. Now look at him. Beats OSP. Beats Fajal. You know, looks fucking fantastic. against Phil Davis. Looks fantastic against Rashad. Dude, you know how fucked I'd be if I didn't have this podcast and these live shows and shit right now? I'd be in training camp getting ready for probably some black beast on fucking fight pass. Black beast?

16:46He called me out. That's why I said it. Did he? I wasn't going to acknowledge it, yeah. Hey, bro, for sure pick a guy you can actually fight. That'd be a fight that I would actually encourage you to probably take. Yeah, me too. I'd do it. I'd rip this Jay Leno denim shirt right off right now and beat him up right now. I'd be like, huh? What? He's a tough guy, though. He's a tough guy. He's very tough. He hits hard, too. If you're in the UFC, they're all tough. Yep. Not as tough as B-Sharp. What do you think about the Stipe Miocic-Ben Rothwell fight? That's a really good fight. That's a great fight, man. That's a tough one to call. That's a really good fight. That's a super tough one to call. Really, really good fight. It's in Dublin. That's whatever. So that's whoever. Stipe's a beast, man. Stipe's a motherfucker. And coming off the Mark Hunt fight, it depends which Rothwell we get.

17:31You know what I'm saying? Rothwell's confident as fuck, and he's tough as fuck. He is hard. You know more than anybody, but you look at that Brendan Vera fight, he beat the shit out of Brendan Vera. Yeah, with me, through that spinning back elbow, first one ever landed by a heavyweight. But the thing is, I brought him, and then I come flying in, and he clips him with that left hook, which is whatever. This is how stupid I was back then. When they asked for me, Ben Rothwell, I went, what? I argued with my manager in Joe Silva. I'm like, it's too easy, man. I need something else. Huh? Did you really think it was too easy? Yeah. I was like, oh, this is such an easy fight. Wow. What the fuck? So did you underestimate him? 100%. I thought he was this big slow guy. I just... Right before we go in the cage, my coach, Leister Bolin, who heads Muscle Farm now, TJ Dillashaw's

18:16coach, looks at me and goes, bro, this is not a fucking sprint. Let's drag his ass in the third round and submit him. He has no jiu-jitsu. Drag his ass in the third round. Don't go crazy. You got it. Go in there. Go in there. Spinning elbow. Fucking go crazy It clipped Like a fucking idiot Man I liked how he fought Against Overeem Dude Overeem Mitrione Yeah He's on the fucking heat man He's scary And a guy with experience Like that It's tough Yeah He's scary dude We'll see man Like Stipe's a motherfucker He's just gotta be In incredible shape For Stipe Cause Stipe is so fit He's so fit And you know He gained a lot of confidence In the Junior Dos Santos fight Went five hard rounds Dos Santos In a war It was a really close war. And then he goes from that to beat the shit out of Mark Hunt. I mean, Stipe's on a roll right now.

19:06This is the only, I think, X factor in this fight is Rothwell is so fucking tough and Rothwell has knockout power, which Stipe really doesn't. Yeah, Stipe's more of a volume guy. Look at that tsunami on TV with The Rock. Did you see that tsunami? Yeah, that shit's all fake, though, isn't it? Listen, dog, this shit is how it goes. San Andreas? This is you. This is you. Here we go. This is you. This is you, Marina Del Rey. Marina Del Rey having a little party. Hey, everything's going to be fine. Oh, my God. Why is the ground moving? Oh, my God. I'm in a condo. Don't worry. This condo is waterproof. Look at this. Look at this shit, son. That's what I'm talking about. That kind of shit. Look at that shit. That kind of shit. That kind of shit ain't nothing for the world. Bro, I hate to tell you, you're fucked, too, where you're at. If that big thing comes, we're all fucked. Come on, man.

19:55Can I just hate on that move? Can I just be the hammer and not the nail? I got it all planned out, bro. I got water saved up. The water's at least your fucking problems. Got real issues, man. It's coming. What were we talking about? Oh, Stipe Rothwell. Yeah, Stipe Rothwell's a hell of a fight, man. I can't believe that's not the main event. We got Duffy and... Oh, yeah. Duffy and Poirier's a great fight. That's a great fight. Duffy's a beast. Joe Duffy's a fucking monster. Duffy's a... Boxing's ridiculous. He's a very good fighter. High-level boxer. Good kicking, too, man. And he also beat Conor McGregor. He's got good kicking, too. He's got a really good overall MMA game. He mixes things up very well. Dustin's a monster, too, man, especially at that weight class. Yeah, Poirier looks way better than 155. I just can't believe Stipe, was he ranked number two in the world?

20:44Can't get a main event? Is he number two now? Kane's got to be number one. See, the junior is injured right now. Is he? No, he's fighting over him in December. Right, but he was just coming off a surgery. True, and he did beat Stipe. But then Stipe beat Mark. But JDS beat Mark. Yeah, but Junior beat Stipe in his last fight. I think he's got to be number one. Besides Kane. I think Kane's got to be number one, and then Junior's got to be number two. No? It would make sense if he is. And then Stipe's three. Yeah. And then Orlowski's four. Brown five. There's some fucking weird shit with ratings sometimes. Yeah, there it is. One, two. I don't know who the fuck does them. Yeah. Some of the ratings are real weird, man. Sometimes guys beat guys and they're below them in the ratings. You're like, wait, what? It's super weird. I don't understand how they work. Who decides?

21:35That's what I'm saying. Who the fuck decides? Yeah, like Uriah Hall. Here's a perfect example. Uriah Hall. Where's Mousasi? Above Uriah Hall. Yeah. Uriah Hall just jump-spinning back kick, Gegard Mousasi in the face, flying Needham in the face, and then beat him down for a TKO. So you tell me how the fuck is Uriah Hall number 10 and Gegard Mousasi is number 8? With all due respect, then Gegard's a great fighter. And people are like, he's a better fighter. No, he's not. No, they fought. They fought and he lost. I agree. Uriah Hall's the better fighter. You might look at Gegard Mousasi's background and say, well, no, you've got to see Gegard Mousasi. He beat Jacare in Japan. Yeah. He beat Dan Henderson. and, you know, you look at his victories in the UFC, and you go, well, he's got to be the guy. But no, Uriah Hall fought him and beat him. He should be above him in the rankings.

22:30Those rankings are crazy. 100%. Those are crazy rankings. Like, what the fuck do you have to do to move up in the rankings if you can't jump-spinning back kick a guy in the face and then flying knee a guy in the face? By the way, in the second round. I agree. Yeah, he lost the first round. He got taken down and dominated. But so did Anderson Silva. when Anderson Silva fought Chael Sonnen the second time. Are we going to still rank Chael Sonnen above Anderson Silva after Anderson kneed him in the body and stopped him in the third fight? I don't think they have a rhyme or reason to the ranking madness. Remember when they were going to pay guys based off their ranking? I was like, what? What? That's fucking insane. That's crazy. Because it's all up for debate, right? Who makes that? I need to know who makes that. I think it's a bunch of dudes. How is that? That is one of the most big.

23:15Go back to where it was, please. Hey, good luck ranking the lightweights. Yeah, but that is one of the worst ranking situations I've ever seen. When you win in a spectacular way like Uriah Hall just did, and you are not rewarded by moving up in the rankings, that's the definition of insanity. That is weird. That's goofy as fuck, man. There's Jason Willis getting a little Vaseline. Let me see those lightweight rankings. How in the fuck do you rank all those monsters? Let's see that. Okay. Number one, who do we got here? Pettis. Makes sense. Two, Cerrone. Makes sense. Nurmagomedov, three. All make sense. Eddie Alvarez, four. Okay. Eddie Alvarez only has one victory in the UFC, though, right? That's tough. So they're going based off his prior. Gilbert Melendez. He beat Melendez. Michael Johnson. Hmm. Michael Johnson's very high level right now. He's looking real good.

24:07Did Michael Johnson just lose to somebody? Yeah. No, he lost. But he actually beat him, but he lost in a country decision. To who? homeboy from Black House Great Striker. Oh, yeah, Benil Dariush. Dariush, I love that, dude. And where's Dariush in the ratings? He's down at number 10. That's interesting. So Michael Johnson is all the way up at number 5, and he lost to Benil Dariush's number 10. Hmm. That is fucking interesting as shit. Look at fucking welterweight, man. That's a weird one, because that's one where a lot of people thought that Michael Johnson got a raw deal. Yeah, 100%. So he wasn't punished at all in the ratings. And I'm a Darius fan, and I think he lost that fight. I'm a Darius fan as well. Big fan. He's a bad motherfucker. Miles Jury, number nine. I thought Miles Jury had moved to featherweight now. Isn't he? Didn't he move to featherweight?

24:55Isn't he fighting someone in the featherweight division in his next fight? I thought so, too. Hmm. Have you ever watched his Ink Master? Is this a good show? I have watched it. Seems weird to have contests on permanent art. Yeah, I kind of dig it, man. Permanent artwork on someone's body. Dave Navarro, though. Fuck's sakes, bro. easy on the eye makeup, huh? I like him. Beautiful man. You know what? Don't get me wrong. I'm a fan. I heard he has a hoggy with Karma Electra. However, you gotta chill out on the eye makeup, bro. If I'm gonna continue to watch the show. Let's see. Welterweight. Welterweight's a motherfucker. Here's the dark horse in the lightweight division, though. Thompson? Tony motherfucking Ferguson. That's your dark horse right there. Oh, for sure. Tony Ferguson's the dark horse. Well, first of all, he's the hardest hitter in the entire division. He's spooky, too.

25:41There's something spooky about him. He's so game, it's insane. He's a bad motherfucker, dude. Bro, how do you have Kelvin ranked 15? Didn't he... Did Kelvin win his last fight at 185, and then they allowed him to fight at 170 again? That's what happened, right? He beat Nate. That's right. He beat the shit out of Nate. That's right, and they forced him out. That was a sad fight. I did not enjoy that fight. Fucking terrible. And Nate's still fighting. Anyways, how about Hendricks? How about your boy Hendricks? Yeah, are they going to make him fight middleweight now? He said he's not fighting middleweight He said he's going to go one more time at 170 But how is he going to do that? Because Dana White said I consider him a middleweight now He missed weight, fucked everybody up Fucked up Tyron Woodley Can you tell a guy what weight to fight at? Nah, especially with Johnny Hendricks

26:25Well you can if you won't give him a fight at 170 Because you've got such a talent rich division I mean look at what you got down there at welterweight Look at this You got Rory McDonald, Tyron Woodley You got Hendricks then you got Carlos Condit, Matt Brown but people don't pay to see Hendricks like they pay to see like a George St. Pierre or like they pay to see you know like some of the bigger stars in the UFC because a lot of people thought that Hendricks like in some of his victories like the Matt Brown fight they thought that he wasn't that exciting see I disagree I'll pay to see that guy any day of the week I think he's fighting smart I agree and I like that he uses his wrestling but bro besides Robbie Lawler who's the most exciting guy in the division. Condit's pretty goddamn exciting. He's been gone for a while, but he's excited as fuck.

27:12But he just knocked out Tiago Alves with a nasty elbow. Matt Brown is about as exciting as a fucking human being can get. I'm saying exciting. I'm saying a bigger name than Johnny Hendricks. Neither of those guys are bigger than Hendricks. Condit, you can say, but he's been gone for a while. Interesting. Hendricks is a big name, bro. He's a big name, but I don't necessarily know how that translates to pay-per-view buys, which at the end of the day is a huge factor. I'm just saying a guy like Johnny Hendricks, what is he, a two-time champion? You can't say, oh, you have to fight at 185. If he's like, no, no, I'll make it. No, but you do if he doesn't make the weight more than once, and he's already missed the weight twice. He's missed weight twice and barely made it for one of the Lawler fights. Dude, he came in way overweight for this, too. Like 26 pounds is what I heard? Come on, bro.

27:52Yeah, he was heavy as fuck. Meanwhile, Joe Schilling is about to fucking throw down. Let's do this, Schilling. Right now. Stitch him up. This is a big, big fight. The guy he's fighting, Jason Willness, is a fucking beast. Willness is nasty. Really, really hard striker, man. Your boy Schilling's flexing there. I'm not mad at it either. He's flexing a little bit. He's bodied up. He's pretty yoked. Bodied up. This is a good one. It's a good matchup. Youngster, 24, Jason Willness. 24 and nasty, dude. He's real good. Man, yeah, that welterweight division's tough. Yeah, it is tough. How's Hendricks do at 185? How's he match up at 185? I don't like it. Okay, you got to go to the champ. You go to the top of the heap. Will you scroll down to middleweight for me, Jamie? Whenever you do that, you go to the top of the heap. How does he match up with the champ? Bad idea with Whitman.

28:44Other than that, I like him. Not so good. I like him. Please. How does he match up with Luke Rockhold? Not so good. How does he match up with Jacare? Not so good. How does he match up with Yoel Romero? Not so good. Ooh, I disagree. Yoel Romero? I think he beats Yoel Romero at 185. Oh, my God. Are you crazy? That one hurts my feelings Are you serious? Yoel Romero was a monster He's so much bigger He's never been a UFC champ Yeah, he's bigger Did you see what he did to Leota Machida in his last fight? I did, he did Fuck my boy He's a monster He's a monster Johnny Hendricks is a monster How dare you? He is, but at 170 Johnny Hendricks is 5'8 He's small He's 5'8 He's small Yeah, I mean When I stand next to him in the octagon And I have shoes on I'm taller than him If I'm taller than you You can't fight Yoel Romero That's just how the rules are Bro You and Callan on this height thing.

29:30What about DC? DC's tiny fucking dudes up. But DC's big in a different way. I don't think Hendricks is that big. I think Hendricks just carries too much body fat. I think Hendricks at 170 could 100% be the champ again. I agree 100%. For sure figure it out. Hendricks when he's on, you've got to look at his knockouts of Martin Campman and John Fitch. He's a fucking monster when he's on. You always have to look at a guy based on his last fight. That's the unfortunate thing about fighting. They always say you're only as good as your last fight. Well, his last fight, I thought he fought pretty fucking good, but then his fight that was supposed to be his last fight, he didn't make the weight. That's where the controversy lies. The controversy lies in his lack of discipline and coming into training camp heavy more than once. I mean, not learning his lesson.

30:16When he came in super fit for the Matt Brown fight, looked great, said he got a hold of his meal prep. It's tough to argue. This fight, he came into camp 10 pounds heavier than his last camp, according to Dolce. 10 pounds is a lot, man. He didn't work with Dolce for this camp, though. Right, but Dolce knows what he came in at. What he came in at this camp versus what he came in at the last camp. Everybody knows it. I mean, they've all admitted it. He admitted it when he talked about when his camp went wrong. He talked about it, and then you've got to get a kidney stone. At this level, man. At this level. At this level. What the fuck are we doing? He might have an eating disorder. You know, we were talking earlier about being addicted to shit. He might be addicted to eating. I might be addicted to eating, then. If he is, I am.

30:57Well, his discipline, the discipline of being a fighter, you know, it might be so overwhelming that when he's not doing it, he just gorges. Blows the fuck up. Dude, you don't get to his level without having discipline. I don't know what the fuck's going on there. Discipline and addiction sometimes are next-door neighbors. Got that middleweight division. Here we go. Joe Schilling, Jason Wellness. Here we go. Come on, Mr. Schilling. Do you get nervous when your friends fight? Fuck yes. Fuck yes. Me too. Always. Always. All day. Always. No way around it. Nope. It's just part of the sport. I can't imagine my family watching me fight. How about if your son was fighting? Imagine if your daughter starts fighting. Oh, Jesus. Your daughter's next Ronda Rousey. Whoa, Jason Walsh, nice leg kick. Jesus Christ, Shilling's aggressive. Nice spinning back fist by Shilling.

31:43Shilling's a bad motherfucker, dude, especially at kickboxing. Kickboxing is a shit. His defense is tighter at kickboxing. His movement's nasty as fuck. Oh, he's excellent. And when he doesn't have to worry about being taken down, then he gets loose. You get loose. Oh, he's a bad motherfucker. He looks so much better at kickboxing. Way better. Yeah. He looks like a world champion. Just be the best in the world at this. Fuck MMA. Yeah. Let's go run this, Joe. You're listening. Well, we assume he wins. He's still fighting Jason Wellness. Look at that. See? Wellness is no joke. But goddamn, Joe looks aggressive. First of all, Wellness's defense is nasty. It is. But Joe Schilling is lighting him up with those front kicks to the body, too. Boom, there's another one, son. Damn, your boy Shilling has a smoke shop sponsor. He likes the weed. Oh, shit. Oh, that kick was nasty.

32:34Damn, Shilling is eating him up, though. Damn, Shilling has Affliction sponsor, too. Damn, Affliction's still alive? Affliction said, God damn it, Reebok. The one guy died, and they got rid of Tom Atencio. Yeah. So who the fuck is Affliction now? Someone bought him out, just like they bought out Tap Out. Wow. That's interesting. Bro, I used to rock those Affliction shirts with, like, fucking silver and angel wings, and it said, like, fade around the back and shit. Well, I was friends with Atencio, and I liked what he did for fighters. He sponsored a lot of fighters. A ton, yeah. And I supported them because of that. Like, I didn't need the Affliction money. They were giving me—it wasn't that much. It was just a little bit, but in my mind, I thought it was a good idea to support a company that was giving fighters a lot of money.

33:21They were sponsoring a lot of fighters, and they put together that Affliction MMA card and gave people a shitload of money. Damn, Joe Schilling looks good. They fucked up on that card, though. They put all their money on that one card, and it was so dope. That card was stacked. Damn, Schilling looking real loose, dropping his hands, moving light. His footwork's ridiculous. And Willness looks real frustrated. He's kind of, like, paralyzed him, man. He's not doing anything. He might just be weathering the storm. He might be Or he might be She's getting his ass Is this five rounds They go five rounds I was just gonna ask you that It's a good question Cause it's the main event Damn Joe Schilling With the movement Ooh Looking good Nice right hand there Is Schilling married Yeah He's got Well he's got a woman He's got some kids I think he's like engaged Basically married though Yeah Basically

34:13What's going on What happened Referee stepped in, stopped something, warned something. I don't know what happened. Damn, throwing them front kicks. When you're a tall fighter like that, those front kicks of the body are really nice. Yeah, huge advantage. It's a nice option. Tough to counter that, man. Good defense here by Schilling, too. He's just a different animal when he's kickboxing. He's confident. He's confident. It's his sport. His defense is way better with those big gloves. He's, like, super used to it. He can also risk more. Yep, and he's not worried about being taken down. so he can do his shit. You don't have to talk him into fighting while he's kickboxing. Yeah, give me an hour with him. Look at this, man. God damn, he's looking good. Boom. Bang, bang. One, two. Definitely won that round. I like how he's throwing a straight right and then a hard jab behind it, too.

35:05You know, like after that right hand, like a lot of MMA fighters especially, they'll pull back and then look for either another right hand or whatever. He's stepping in hard with that jab. Tell you what I don't like. That Magnus Arena not very full. Come on. Yeah. Well, I don't think this sport gets the attention that it deserves. You know, as excited as you and I were for this fight and this card, like, to me, this is like an opportunity to watch high-level fighting, like whether or not it's MMA or a kickball. I like, like, I think the ultimate sport is MMA. It always will be the ultimate sport. But when I want to watch the best expression of striking technique, There's certain shit that you only see when you watch Muay Thai or you only see when you watch kickboxing and this is it right here Like these kind of duke it out battles true I don't get like don't get me wrong. I fucking know

35:56I love me some glory kickboxing, but I don't get as excited or crunk Or crunk for this as I do for like a main event in the UFC. Well, it's a different kind of their Yeah excitement. Well, I do because Joe's my friend and I support him, but I feel you Yeah But if you're watching the very best guys in the world go at it in any discipline, it's fun. Whether it's boxing. You watch Manny Pacquiao versus Mayweather. It's still fun. Hell yeah. Dude, wrestling. The top world, you know what I'm saying? The best of the best wrestling is even fun to watch. But I think this is way better than boxing. I really do. I think this is... Oh! Big left hand from Joe Schilling. God damn. Dude, he looked so fucking good tonight. He is on it, man He is all over it tonight Nasty left hook I bet he comes in Well, he just looks so smooth Everything looks smooth His defense, everything

36:51He's not wasting anything, is he? No, no He's fighting nice He's fighting very nice Very light on his feet Never standing stationary Mixing shit up very well Damn I like how he's like moving out and in well Like lifts up for a front kick And then punches you in the face And then he's out. Yeah, you don't know what the fuck is going on. What's Rashad's boy? He's cornering him. Tyrone Spawn. Yeah, what's his deal? He's a monster. I know he's asking Dana White for a fight. He wants money. He's like, I want to be paid what I deserve. He's one of the best strikers on the planet Earth. 100%. He's like, if I'm going to fight in MMA, he goes, I want to be treated like I get treated in kickboxing. They're trying to give him that basic-ass contract? What are they saying to the kick go low or something like that? I don't know what they're offering him. I don't know what they're offering him.

37:38I really have no idea. He just needs the exposure. Are they going to take a point away here? What's going on? Low kick? No. No. Back in. All right. Definitely a warning. They walk you around, say one point, one point, right, when they take a point away? Oh, shit, he rocked him again. I feel like Schilling got... Jason Willmess throws hard shots, dude. Oh, fuck. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Schilling's holding on, man. He got cracked. That was a big, big, big punch by Willmess. Oh, my God. He got hit again. Bro. Oh, fuck. He got hurt. He got hurt with the right hand. Willis is all over him. He's got a cling. He's got a cling. He's got a cling. Yeah, he's got a cling. He's got a cling. He's got to clear the cobwebs right now. He's got to clear the cobwebs. That's the scary thing about Willis, man, is that KO power. Joe gets that clinch. Dude, he got hurt bad. He got hurt bad in this round.

38:31I see a powerful Matt Brown in the crowd. He does his camps there now. Does he? Yep. At Elevation? Yep. Is everybody going to go to Elevation? that Muscle Farm's coming with that cash? I think so. Rampage is one of the first guys to go there, right? He did early camps there. He did a camp there when they first opened up, but he didn't move there. Oh, we got hurt again. Damn, wellness hits hard, dude. Someone lost their mouthpiece. It's your boy. Is it? Pretty sure. It's a tight move, though, because you get a break. That move. Oh, it's the end of the round. I don't think so. I don't think it's the end of the round, dude. Yeah, see, you get that break. Damn, your boy lost that round. Yeah. Did he, though? Didn't he knock him down earlier in the round, though? Nah, not really. That was the first round. Was it? Boom. Oh, fuck. Was that this round? Yeah. The very beginning? Yeah.

39:19God, that's tough, man. That's better. That knockdown's bigger. Because Schilling was a... Yeah, that's bigger. Yeah, he was wobbled, too. That was a real knockdown, dude. That was a legit knockdown. You don't think that's an even round? No. What? Because he knocked him down. Your boy Schilling got fucked up two times. He got tagged for sure. But look, he used good defense and clinched up. Knockdowns in kickboxing are big, dude, just like knockdowns in boxing. They're like a takedown in MMA. It's not like an MMA fight where you get rocked. Like if a guy gets dropped in an MMA fight and another guy lands, fights, punches like that, that's a hard fight to score. Maybe it's a 9-9 round. That's what I'm saying, 9-9. It could be 9-9. But the knockdown is big, dude, because I wouldn't give him a 10-8. What's going on? The fight's over? What's happening? What did he do, break his foot?

40:07Oh, shit. Joe Schilling won. What happened? He broke his foot. Did he break his foot? Oh, wow. Oh, man. That's a bummer. That was a good fight. Good for Joe Schilling, though. After having, congrats to Joe Schilling, but after having a round like that where he had Schilling in all kinds of trouble. That's a bummer. That's a big victory for Schilling. Tracy Lee in the ground. He broke his ankle, man. He broke his foot or his ankle. Something's broken. No shit. I'm surprised that hasn't happened all the time. Wow. Yeah, he's fucked. Shit. Yeah, if he's there right now with the adrenaline That happened to Yair Rodriguez in the first round of this fight That fucking kid Two rounds like that, moving and shaking Dude, I text you, you imagine that kid's champ from Mexico What? With his personality and his style Get the fuck out of here Yeah, man, dude I'm texting congrats To Joe Schilling

40:56Yeah, Yair's a bad motherfucker, dude He's so exciting He's so versatile His jiu-jitsu, what? Yeah, everything His jiu-jitsu's nasty His takedown defense is excellent. It's getting better. Yeah. It's getting better. It's excellent for a guy who throws kicks like he does, though. He's throwing wild shit all the time. He's at Jackson's now, too. Is he? Ooh. He's trying to work on his wrestling. That's a good move. That's a good move. There's a bunch of really good high-level camps right now. It's such a good time. They're super camps. Such a good time for MMA. And guys aren't sparring as much. It's good. It's a great time for MMA. Yeah. It's a great time for 205. How exciting is 205? It's crazy. MMA and, you know, just not just the UFC, but even Bellator. Like, if you look at, like, some of the guys they have, like, there's some talent, like, all throughout across MMA now.

41:48The only thing, here's a problem. Who the fuck is Fedor going to fight? Didn't they announce he's fighting some 1-0 dude? Come on. I'm pretty sure they announced he's fighting a 1-0 guy. Come on. And then they reneged it. Yeah. No. I'm almost positive I saw that. Oh, God. This could be bro science. This could be MMA science. I might be lying. There's that left hand again he dropped him with. But this is big, dude. Boom! That's right on the money. Dude, he caught him on the money. And then he rocked him again. He fought smart there, covering up. Oh, he rocked him a couple times after that. And that's it. Third round. Couldn't come out. Good for Schilling. Yeah. That's got to be a giant relief for him, too, after that second round. That second round, that was scary. He showed a good chin, though, man. Speculation. Especially for a guy that got knocked out in his last fight.

42:36See, opponent would be whatever, however the fuck he said. Who's the opponent? Nobo Hushi Sakigabar. Does it say his record below that? Ari Hohani, make respect to opponent. No, that's trolling. Then Aoki. Sing Jai Deep, they're trolling. That's the internet, these silly fucks. Bro, that's MMA fighting. Listen, that Sing Jai Deep guy, that is a guy that on my message board, They joke around about him being the big threat to Cain Velasquez. He's this, like, really overweight Indian guy. It's a joke. This is a troll. They're honeydick. They're trolling. All right. It's the Internet. We got trolled. Somebody trolled. But that Aoki Sakuraba is for reals. Sakuraba's fighting? Aoki versus Sakuraba is for reals. Oh, come on. I swear to God. I thought Sakuraba was done. No. Kenny Florian was in Japan and rolled with Aoki. He was like, who are you fighting next? And he said, Sakuraba.

43:27And Kenny's like, what? It's a bummer, right? Well, here's the problem Aoki can strike You know, I mean, Sakuraba's a bigger guy But Aoki's striking is not that bad I think Sakuraba has so many miles on him Dude, Aoki's striking compared to Sakuraba right now He's fucking Joe Schilling Yeah It's a bummer, man He's taken so many fucking beatings He comes out in ten braces Yeah I think if Aoki gets a hold of one of those old ass ankles Yeah He'll rip it off like tails from the crib Well, I think grappling-wise, he's still very competent. Grappling-wise. Did you see him fight in Metamorris? Yeah, against Hanzo? Yeah, but, you know, he was able to go to a draw with Hanzo. I agree, and Hanzo's a monster and one of my favorite people to ever grace this earth. However, Aoki, that's some shit, man. He's much smaller, too.

44:17He was fought at lightweight, whereas Sakuraba fought Conan in his first UFC fight. True. Sakuraba's been through some shit. Much bigger guy. He's been through some miles, man. Dude, that fight, first of all, the Vanderlei knockouts were horrific. Horrific. And then the knockout that might have been even worse is the Melvin Manhoff one. Oof. Yeah, this is an interesting fight. Schilling knocked him down with the left hand, too. It's an interesting thing about Schilling is I think it was a straight left. Schilling fights pretty good off both sides. Yeah, he's a freak striking wise, man. Good fight, man. It was a good fight. Interesting. It would have been interesting to see. I'm super happy for Joe. Hell yeah, as long as you get a win. If he's your friend, who gives a fuck how it happens? You know what I'm saying? Exactly. All right, I'm going to the Comedy Store. Boom, get it done, dog.

45:04End of round two. Fighter and the Kid. Fighter and the Kid. What is your website? tfatk.com. Listen, your fans are not bright enough to put all that together. It's basically tfatk. tfatk.com. tfatk.com. New shirts just dropped, son. Oh, shit. Brendan Schaub on Twitter. Didn't you guys have zombie versions of some of your shirts? Yeah, zombie versions. Nice. Marketing genius. Booyah. With a beautiful part in his hair. All right, you fucks. We'll be back next week. We've got a star-studded lineup next week. Next week's banging. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thanks for all the love, and we'll see you soon. Big kiss.