Eddie Bravo, Brendan Schaub: Fight Companion - April 11, 2015 (Part 2)

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§01Overtime: the audio split and the coconut water argument
Part two opens as the stream goes into overtime. The crew splits the audio, someone asks for a beer, and a request for coconut water turns into a running joke when Eddie offers a Coke instead. Before a story about Joey Diaz can start, one speaker stops it and checks with Jamie whether they are still recording.
The first real disagreement is about coconut water. One speaker says the brand C2O is "the best 100%" because it uses Thai coconuts and tastes different. Another says the boxed kind beats canned, because he heard that canning kills the nutrition. The C2O fan dismisses this, saying "most of its been killed anyway, bro science." The doubter's only source is "I read Yahoo News every morning," and nobody offers better evidence, so the point is never settled.
The C2O fan says he discovered the brand on a "Gui Day" at the gym, when a training partner brought in a large supply because, as he puts it, coconut water "is like what the Brazilians have been known to drink." The day was a Brazilian-style training tradition. Asked whether they still hold it, the guests say only "Once a year" for "the old legends," or that they have stopped.
§02The Harmon Hotel and talk of Macau money in Las Vegas
Jamie looks up a building the group has been asking about. It is the Harmon Hotel, part of CityCenter, which never opened and is to be torn down "in two weeks." One speaker first says the whole CityCenter is affected and is corrected: it is a single building, to the left of the Aria sign. It is wrapped in black netting ahead of demolition because it is not structurally safe.
The article read on air supplies the numbers. The Harmon was originally meant to rise 49 floors as a CityCenter showpiece. Its neighbors opened within a month of each other as Nevada entered the recession: the 4,000-room Aria, the Mandarin with fewer than 400 rooms, and the 57-story all-suite Vdara (transcribed as "Vadara"). The text says "It wasn't a recession but construction issues that kept the Harmon closed." The construction plan was later cut by almost half, but concerns remained that the building could topple in an earthquake.
The hosts treat the demolition as a joke about the neighbors. One compares it to someone parking next to your Porsche and promising to put a net over it before blowing up his own car. Another suggests a solid steel enclosure would make more sense.
A guest then describes a different site from a documentary he watched. He thinks an MGM group or a similar company was behind it but says he doesn't "want to say who because I don't know exactly." In his account, a large development there fell apart and the land sat empty for about 10 years. A Macau company is now building a multi-billion-dollar hotel that is "supposed to open up in about a year or so" and that "all these Macau and Chinese people are supposed to come in and save Vegas." The hosts then imagine diamond buildings and Rolls-Royce rides. That leads to an untested back-of-envelope claim: "If Macau really is what they say it is, if it really is ten times Vegas, that means they're making ten times as much money as Vegas."
The money talk moves to a half-remembered Sam Tripoli joke about women always going with men who have money. The speaker admits he is "killing the joke." The hosts then add their own crude riffs on wealth and attraction.
§03Jenner, gender identity and asexuality
Someone asks whether Bruce Jenner (the name used on the show) became a woman from living with "crazy bitches." A host rejects this. He says Jenner has "always felt like a woman, even when he was a kid." A guest suggests Jenner was gay all along, and the host disagrees.
The host's main point is that gender identity and sexual orientation are separate. He says "there's so many different possibilities when it comes to sexuality," and that many people struggle to accept this "because we only have our own version of sexuality and gender." He describes people who are attracted to women and wish to be women themselves, who will give up their male anatomy and testosterone "and still be with women."
A guest brings up Lady Valor, a former Navy SEAL who served "from SEAL Team 1 to SEAL Team 6" and later said they had always felt like a woman. The guest describes Lady Valor teaching other SEALs to shoot while wearing a dress, tattoos and mascara.
Another guest proposes that Jenner might be coming out in stages. He cites Elton John, who in his telling was married, then said he was bisexual, and only later came out fully as gay. A host counters with what he recently read about Jenner's interview: Jenner said they had felt like a woman their whole life and described themselves as asexual. The host says he believes that, and asks "Why would you doubt that someone would be asexual?"
To support the point, the host offers comedian Stanhope as an example. He says Stanhope no longer has sex, is "having a great time," and "He talks about it openly." The others guess at reasons, such as low testosterone or "Booze and cigarettes." The host's conclusion is that "Everybody's different," and that Morrissey's stated asexuality "might not be bullshit. It might be just, this is how he is."