Duncan Trussell

00:00They're going to get paranoid when that thing's in here. Oh, dude. It'll scare you. Just... I believe it. I know the wolf. The fucking yellow goddamn eyes. That fucking gnashing... It blanked up. It blanked out. Oh, my God. Let me just see that. Here. We are now joined on Ustream. Oh, powerful Ustream. That's a full live version. Full-size version of the wolf. Jesus. God damn Christ. That thing's spooky. That was an awesome movie, folks. If you haven't seen it, how dare you? If you haven't seen American Wolves in London, it is the greatest horror movie of all time. I love that fucking movie. I used to think that, but then I saw the worst horror movie of all time. What was that? Funny Games. What is that? What? Oh, that's the one you were telling me about? Yeah, it's just the director said the appropriate response to it is walking out halfway through.

00:47This is a human-created violence scary movie, right? Yeah, it's just, it's a horror. It's like I've seen almost every horror movie. But it's not monsters, right? it's human no it's not werewolves see I'm not interested in like mean people I I like watching a good werewolf movie or some shit or a vampire movie I like watching nonsense like you showing me like some guy who's going to kill somebody with a pair of pliers I really don't need to see that I know there's guys that'll do that oh oh no no no this is not even like that this isn't like some slasher flick dude this is like uh according to the director it's commentary on the infiltration of like the mainstream media and of popular life. And they're using this like story to like to articulate it. It's deep. It's fucking deep. It's about fascism. But man, it is like your stomach will roll when you watch this fucking thing.

01:41Highly recommend it. They say I only saw the US version. Some people say that the US version it's shot for shot. It's shot for fucking shot. It's the guy from Reservoir Dogs. What's his name? The fucking undercover cop from Reservoir Dogs. Tim Roth. Yeah, Tim Roth. is in it he fucking nails it dude that guy's awesome he is awesome enough shit I know what's what's that guy do does he do like plays or something seems like it is he an autiste he's an autiste yeah he's a badass motherfucking actor dude you know what I did last night man I went to this movie theater that fucking quentin tarantino owns called the new beverly and they show grind house flicks twice a month and last night they were showing a anti-drug grind house flick called like the acid strip or something what exactly does grindhouse mean I don't know I was I was

02:31I want to google that but I don't know yeah I always wondered when I saw that when I saw he was doing those movies the one uh with um what was a pretty girl from charmed the fuck is her name I don't know god damn it there was they were all pretty in that that show charmed it's just fucking awesome man because it's like you know it's like the original fucking it's the original movie so it's kind of fucked up this had bud court in it it was shot in italy yeah um rose mcgowan that's the chick she was in it and she was uh she had like one leg was a gun or something like that oh yeah remember and I was like what the fuck is grindhouse like what is that it's just like an old kind of stupid gory weird kind of artistic style like I think they vary this one was like just the stupidest funniest thing you've ever seen like the way they try to do

03:28like they were trying to do the anti-drug message in the 60s and bud court plays this kind of rampaging hippie weirdo oh here's the here's the definition a grindhouse is an american term for a theater that mainly shows exploitation films. It's named after the defunct burlesque theaters located on 42nd Street in New York City, where bump and grind, dancing, and striptease were featured. That's crazy. So that was, that's the old 42nd Street. That's back when New York City had a really fucked up area. Do you remember what it was like? Did you ever go to New York City when it was crazy? No way. I've heard about it, but I never went there. I was there many times when it was still dangerous. It was really interesting. That 42nd Street was a completely different place.

04:20It was this – they decided, they made like this active decision to clean that fucking place up and take out all the bullshit and make it like super like fan friendly and super, you know, visitor friendly. Yeah. So what it used to be was like one dirty little strip tease and peep show and triple X movie. And it was fucking creepy. People, creepy people hanging out. Like, you're like, let's Google old photos of Times Square. It's like Taxi Driver. It's like the movie Taxi Driver. That's where it's hanging out. Yeah. I remember that. I remember what it was like. I came to New York a couple times when I was in my teenage years. and I remember being there wandering around what a fucking crazy place this is man yeah I had family in new jersey and uh they had they'd taken me to manhattan a few times when I was young

05:14I remember like man I barely remember when I was like a little kid barely remember but I remember like feeling it's like dangerous like it's so big and crazy was dang it is dangerous but I remember when I was like in my teenage years is when I saw like the the peep shows and all that shit I saw those uh that's we we came there for a karate tournament there was a big karate tournament they used to do at master square garden every year so we came in me and a bunch of fucking soft dorks from boston you know newton even where I was from the suburbs of boston to go to this crazy fucking city like we were essentially living in mayberry compared to like new york city you have your own problems with like socially with people everywhere but where I Like, where I grew up, like, I went to Newton South High School. It's, like, one of the nicest high schools ever.

06:03You know, you're always going to have problems with human beings whenever you get 17-year-olds and you mix them all together. There's going to be problems. But, like, there's, like, very few fights in school. Very few. Like, no one got really seriously injured. You know, there was, like, a few squabbles and people got upset with people. But other than that, it was a nice place to live. Right. I didn't realize how easy I had it until you're in Manhattan, you know, and you're, like, 17 years old. in Times Square, and you're like, what the fuck is this place? This place is crazy. It's just one person after another who wants to fuck you and give you some new disease. Like, one of just people looking to fuck people, and people looking to jerk off, and people looking to go sit and watch someone play with their asshole in front of you while you beat off in a booth, and then someone cleans

06:49that. Like, that was Times Square. No one cleans it there. They did clean it. They would go in there with a mop, man. They would go in there with a mop. and they'd look at you like, you motherfucker. I told you when I was in San Francisco, I went to one of those places and I've never been to the place where the thing goes up and you're in this room and there's just a bunch of people behind this glass fingering themselves and stuff. And I accidentally put my hand on the side and there was a little thing that was wet. Too bad. That's not good. That is not good. And the guy was like, I was like, oh, I think I just put my hand in cum. He goes, oh, no, we clean those things in between every person. And then I just watch people go in and out And I was like, no, you don't. I'm watching people right now. You put your hand in jizz. Yeah. It's just sells. Don't worry about it, man.

07:34If you added a cheese between a guy punching you in the head or jizzing on your face, what would you pick? Punching in the head. I would take the jizz in the face all day. You know why? What would you do, Duncan? Can I pick those? You know why? Because I'll tell you why. Because A, I've been punched in the face, and it's not fun. And B, I've accidentally come in my face, and it was not that bad. Oh, God. It was delicious. It was, no, it wasn't delicious, but it wasn't nothing that hurt, you know. It was pretty pain-free. It was warm, you know. When I was, like, 16, I was, you know, I was completely retarded. Of course, I was using the pull-out method. My also teenage girlfriend, we didn't know what the fuck we were doing. We were idiots. We shouldn't have been alone together. So I would pull out, and one time I pulled out, and I shot it so far. It hit me in the face.

08:23Like, I was, like, looking down at it as I pulled it out. I guess I wanted to see how much came out. And it hit me right in the mug. Splat. Wow. And I was like, wow. So that's what it feels like. It was kind of exciting. What the fuck? What are you doing, dude? Put yourself in a girl's position. It feels like now you understand why they would want a hot load in the face. It's hot. You know, like, ah, it represents the man's passion on your face. Not that I want it from anyone other than me. No, that doesn't sound like it at all. It only happened once. There's other things that only happened once that I'm shocked with. One of them is beating off in the car. I've only beat off in the car once in my entire life. While driving? Yeah. One time when I was living in Boston, I was working for a limo company. And I was driving home, and it was a long ride, and it was horny, so I just beat off.

09:17It was like something to do. And I just squirted a load inside my shirt, tucked it back in my pants. Yeah. And then, you know, I remember doing it and remember thinking, well, all right, so here's some new fucked up thing I do now. Because I figured I would just keep doing that now. I'd never jerked off in the car before. And being like 20 years old or whatever I was at the time, I was like, what an idiot. Did you really just start jerking off in the car? Because that's what you're going to start doing all the time now, dummy. And I didn't for whatever reason. I never did it again. Like, what do you mean? Like that would become your fetish? Like jerking off in the car? Yeah, I figured if I found one other place where I was comfortable jerking off, that's not a good thing. You know what I mean? Because I had jerked off at work before.

09:55God, imagine the world where jerking off was just normal and you're just in line. People are jerking off. One time I jerked off at work twice because I had this really hot date that night. And I jerked. I was doing construction. I was in this basement. We were building this house. And I would just open the door, beat off onto the yard, and then go back to work. I did it twice. That's how fucked up I was. And then when I went on the date that night with the girl, I was like barely into it. And I was like, I'd wanted to fuck this girl for so long. And we finally like ran into each other somewhere. And I was like, holy shit. And she was so down. But I was like barely hard. It was so sad. I had a complete three quarters erection. You fucked up. And she was the first girl that wanted to put her finger in my ass. You never forget that lady, do you? She goes, I know what you want.

10:47This is what she said. She goes, I know what you want. We were both like 17 or something like that. I go, what do I want? She goes, you want me to stick my finger in your ass? I was like, whoa, what the – how wrong are you? Yeah. Like, you couldn't be more wrong. Yeah, that's more like what you want. But automatically, I didn't want to grill her, you know, because that's kind of rude to do to a girl you're dating. But you don't want to go, how many dudes have you stuck your finger up their ass? Because if you just offer that up, like the first time we hook up, you just offer up a finger up the ass and you're only 17. I think maybe like, maybe I was 18 and she was 17 or 19 and 18. In that range, you know, right after high school or around there. It's like, she's already done this how many times? I wonder how many dudes' buttholes. This girl's just, I know what you want.

11:32And I was like, yeah, you know it. Go for it, baby. Like, just on a whim, on a hope that it's a good thing. And all of a sudden, she's sucking on her fingers. And you're going, where's this going? See, in the world of Kurzweil that we're talking about, the idea that you're going to be able to record everything, there will be a way that you can hack. And the way that, like, guys will hack into their girlfriend's email, you'll be able to hack into your girlfriend's, like, past and, like, see a scan of, like, you could actually just enter in. How many buttholes has her finger been in? 28. I'm reading that Sex at Dawn book. I'm reading the Sex at Dawn book. Pretty good. Yeah, it's fascinating.

12:05And one of the things that I find fascinating is all the different theories about why people act and behave certain ways when it comes to how many sexual partners has your wife had, why it's so important that you limit that number, that you can trust her and keep her around. It's really fascinating stuff, man. Oh, man. That book is incredible. I love that guy, man. That's a really cool dude, too, Chris Ryan. He's brilliant. You had him on your podcast, didn't you? Twice. Twice. I got to get in touch with him and try to see if he'll do this because he's really very interesting. I love the part about the Yucatan, the name of the Yucatan. Do you remember that part? I don't remember that. When Columbus's people or Cortez came to the Yucatan, they asked the people, like, what do you call this place? And they made this sound. Not that sound.

12:59but they made this sound like we could talk oh you know and the guy said yucatan close enough so they say we're gonna call it the yucatan well it turned out that the mayan scholars after all those years of deciphering they they deduced that what he was trying to say was I don't understand what you're saying oh man that's what he was saying yeah that they had taken yucatan hilarious isn't that amazing yeah that's such an amazing like I love knowing shit like that like house and then knowing that that was only a few hundred years ago. Right. That's really kind of nuts. Yeah. We're so spoiled by the time that we arrived. We're so spoiled that being alive in the year 2012, like just a few hundred years ago, there was people that got in boats and just traveled and didn't know where the fuck they were going and had no idea what they would find and didn't have masks. It's just a hundred.

13:58But dude, think about. What is it, 500 years ago? I love to think about that, man. And I love to think about the fucking feeling. That feeling that that. That's a feeling. I mean, we can find that. I mean, you could, you know, esoterically say, you know, we can search into the world of psychedelics for new lands. Yeah. But no one is ever going to know until interstellar travel happens. No one's ever going to know that fucking feeling of being on a ship and for the first time seeing land in a place where no one knows there's land. Yeah, and the idea that you would have the audacity to go look in the ocean, to not know what's on the other side, to just go out there. Like, oh my God, you had to have fucking tremendous balls. Yeah. And one of the things that must have been amazing back then was the ability to see the stars.

14:47like as long as it wasn't cloudy out you could really see everything because there was no light pollution where if you if you've ever been in the country in the middle of the night oh yeah look up and on a clear night and just see fucking unbelievable amounts of stars it really makes you sad that that's not a regular feature like that what we've done by creating these beautiful cities and these safe roads to travel on we've disconnected ourselves from the vision of the cosmos yeah of our part in the cosmos yeah when you're like in the country man you're staying in a farm and you go like kick back in a hammock and you look up and the entire sky is filled with stars that is a perspective enhancing experience that's a visual psychedelic oh yeah staring at the stars is a very visual psychedelic well I mean you've got like light pouring into your eyes from the far reaches of the universe.

15:43You've got light coming into your eyes that's from so long ago. And you're getting that feeling that you get when you see something beautiful. We seek out beautiful things. We seek out them, whether they're flowers or sculptures or a person or a car. There's something that strikes us when we see something beautiful. It's all subjective, but to each person, whatever their beautiful is, It lights that charge in their mind. Have you ever seen a guy who's really into old cars and he sees an old Corvette or something like that? Oh, this is a 67. Look at the lines on this baby. And you see him like his fucking eyes light up. There's a charge that a person gets from a thing of beauty, from seeing something that's beautiful. There's an idea that that thing of beauty is lying underneath everything, that the world's just covering that beauty up.

16:37and that people use objects as a way to limit the beauty because to like really accept the whole thing is like would be so potent that you start off like getting that feeling from cars or you start off getting that feeling from looking up at the sky or you start off getting that feeling from falling in love but like that feeling is like underneath everything that's what everything's composed of is that sense of like wow holy shit because that's like a peak that's a peak feeling That feeling of being like whatever the thing is that activates it. Sometimes I think that maybe that's what enlightenment is, is when you just hit that feeling perpetually. You're just perpetually in that space of like, wow, this is amazing. I had a friend who was like really into Buddhism and she had this thing on her wall that said enlightenment is possible in this lifetime. Yeah.

17:33And I remember reading that going, wow, that is a profound statement. you know enlightenment is possible in this lifetime and I remember thinking like wow what a what a weird thing we we all have in our heads is this this burning desire to get our shit together yeah like everybody would love to be enlightened you know yeah beware of anybody who tells you they are beware of anybody who tells you they don't want to be wow that's great yeah I just made that up that's great dude that's really good it's delicious yeah it's a gift from the universe yeah that that really is I'm sure somebody probably already said it somewhere already yeah those things that's too good I couldn't have made that one up no I've never heard it well I've heard if you see the boot on the road kill him I've never heard beware of

18:16anybody who says they're enlightened or who says they don't want to be that's pretty good when you talk to people and they have this box that they don't want to operate in hey I don't give a fuck this is how I'm gonna die that's like our our thing when we did and you and I broke down that country western oh yeah you know yeah that ridiculous uh ending I'm happy to be a single celled organism anybody who wants to change that gotta come through me yeah yeah man it's that that kind of you know constricted life sucks for the person who's living in the constricted life and for the people living around the person in the constricted life and it's like you can if you just play around with that fucking idea that you can permanently permanently shift your consciousness so that you are experiencing life in the way that like those however many times you've had

19:02happen in your life some people more sometimes less when you're for the first time you like accomplish some big thing and you get that sense of like oh my god man I can fucking I can really do shit that I didn't think I could do that feeling is like the universe at that moment unfolds it's like a whole new room a whole new giant land pops open in your subjective universe were like, wow, there's an entire other part of this life I had no idea about. Well, it's like, if you can always be in that state of recognizing that this is the most beautiful peak experience that could happen to anything, which I think is what enlightened people, the people I've been around who are very advanced, I wouldn't call them enlightened. They're just happy, man. They're just like, happy is the wrong word for it, though. They're like connected and they're really, really not afraid to express love.

20:00They're feeling love all the time. I think that that's a cool idea that you could feel that all the time. I think that's a beautiful idea that you could be in that place all the time. If you're careful about your friends and you only surround yourself with positive people, I think you can work that out. I think you can do that all the time. It's all about constructing that environment though. You have to do that by sharp editing throughout your entire life. You've got to figure out how to edit yourself and edit people. You've got to figure out how to get rid of as many of your own negative instances, any of those that you can get away with not causing yourself. Minimize that. Try to get it down to zero. None of the negative moments are created because of your actions. And then figure out who's creating all those other negative moments. and eliminate interaction with those people. Yes.

20:54I mean, if you can do that and then find like-minded folks who will not put anything, try not to do anything negative to their friends and don't want to accept anything negative either, then you're around a bunch of people who love each other. Let me throw out an idea because this is, what you're talking about is something that I... Some hippie bullshit. No, it ain't. It ain't hippie bullshit, man. This is like the idea of like, well, in the beginning, you know, there's a... The beginning of spiritual life is what they say. They say the beginning of spiritual life is like a tendril, like the beginning of like when a tree grows, right? And when a tree is growing at first, the most gigantic tree started off as a tiny little fucking sprig. So when you're in that place, it's really important to keep shit out that can like fuck you up.

21:41And that's the idea of cutting people out or like cutting out the negative elements. But then there's this other idea that I was listening to some Ram Dass lecture. He's talking about reactivity and that when you're around someone who's got a difficult personality or someone who's like an instigator, a drama vortex, you still get to decide if you're going to be reactive to that person or not. You still get to be in control of the way you feel around that person. But in the beginning, that person can make you feel like shit. When you're around an asshole, your mood will drop. Your mood shifts. You get mad. You get unhappy. You feel threatened. But the idea is as you advance and gain more and more control of your consciousness, then that stops happening. So you use that asshole as an emotional gym. Yes. You use them as an emotional or psychological growth sparring partner. Yes.

22:31And as you deal with their douchiness, you learn how to better navigate douchiness throughout your life. Yeah. And also for the first time when the asshole is around someone who isn't reacting to them being an asshole, they're going to be like, what the fuck is this? Because their whole life, they've been going through life getting cues from people like, I don't think so. No. So all of a sudden, if they're around someone who's like beaming, you know, beaming in the way that you would be beaming around when you saw like when Joey Diaz walks into a room. You're beaming that way around a cunt. Suddenly they're like, what the fuck is this? Well, the real problem, though, is when they become physically violent. When you have dumb cunts that want to punch you, that's when you run into real situations. Yes, but how often does – I mean that doesn't happen that often.

23:16Most of the time, but you've managed to surround yourself with hipsters. I mean if you're in certain parts of the country, certain parts of cities, you can get punched in the face randomly. I've seen it. There's a terrible video of a woman in London. Some guy just comes and cracks her for no reason. Yeah, I saw that. They're looking for the guy. Some teenage girl knocked unconscious. Demonic son of a bitch. It's just fucked up that people are capable of doing shit like that. and that there's the broad spectrum of the possible human actions. It's so broad. I mean, you could be a guy that she could have crossed paths with a guy who was like, good morning, you know, top of the day to you and been real happy and made her feel really good. And she could have moved on to, you know, her job or whatever, feeling like really good.

24:03Instead, she runs into the wrong guy and he cracks her and knocks her unconscious for no reason whatsoever. She hits her head in the concrete. I saw it, dude. She's out. but but you know what's amazing man this is again that shit we were talking about in the beginning this is the shift that's happening because there was a time in human history when a thug go galloping up behind some young lass in the street and knock her down and like the entire planet doesn't know about it in a matter of like eight hours you know this this is them this is the incredible time that we're in is that that it's a double-edged sword you see something like that and you you're either going to be like god damn this is a fucked up world we're living in I there's guys will just run up behind someone and punch them in the head or the other side of it is like fuck in one you

24:47know in a day or two this act of violence has been broadcast all over the planet and has created a situation where people could like talk about how awful it is and how how how bad that is that people are like that and it I think that elevates us a little bit I think it just takes a lot more time than we're used to because we're used to like processing power going up in a year and hard drive space doubling. We're used to all these massive improvements and then we don't see that in human nature and it's really frustrating. I think that this shift that we keep saying, I think it's just more subtle than people would like. It's not as fast as going from an old tube television to a 55-inch flat screen. It's not something different between having DSL and having 56K. You know, it's too small. Like, so we still see these versions of the worst case scenarios of human behavior.

25:46It's shocking to us that they still exist. But I think the direction is for them to exist less. It seems like more and more as part of the shift, things are standing out that aren't shifting more and more. So like, you know, like Romney, for example, or like these like crazy fucking like, you know, homophobic anti-abortion Republicans. Talking about my family, boy. These crusty old sons of bitches more and more are starting to look like monsters. They're starting to look more like freaks. Whereas they used to be able to like, you know, they used to be able to turn fucking high powered water hoses on crowds of black people, you know, without losing their jobs. you know what I mean like so this this shift is like but it's really interesting to watch the way that a lot of these crusty old pundits are reacting to it man they're having the same effect that

26:41when they threw water on the witch and the wizard of oz you know that kind of like they're hissing and shrieking and they don't know how to deal with it what's fascinating to me uh is that with this with this new sort of uh understanding of people that we're getting because of the internet, there's water all over me. I spilled coffee on me. I have a nice shirt and I don't want to ruin it. With this new understanding that people have of, like, having the access to these kind of stories, having the access to these horrible stories that are things that are happening from the Gaza Strip, that this shift that's going on, like, as it's happening, all these horrific things that still exist in the world, they seem to escalate almost as if they're worried that something's coming at them almost as if like

27:33it's the the you know the uh fundamentalism gets even more and more extreme and more and more hate for more and more crazy and you start getting shit like god hates bags and guys holding up a fucking sign they have a whole website dedicated to it and like all the the hate that you see with you know we we had um uh on the podcast we had this uh conversation with shane smith about pakistan and India and the potential for nuclear war. And it was one of the scariest conversations ever. Because these people, it's almost like a lost state like Pakistan. It was talking about how chaotic it is and how chaotic the rulership is and how they hate India and India hates them. And that different leaders have said they wanted to strap themselves to a nuclear bomb and go over there and blow the other people up. That this all exists at the same time as this new understanding and this new shift.

28:25It's almost like it's this resistance. And it's almost like this thing that we have to rally against, like the most fucked up part of human nature. It's like we have to rally against that. And that's what unites people. And otherwise we'd be too lazy. Otherwise we'd never get it. We would accept mediocrity. We would accept a certain slow tempo to the evolution of human consciousness. But this forces it to act. Like all the evil and all the fucked up actions of the world and fucking drone attacks and all this craziness forces us to act and think. Well, it's again, man. Yes, I agree. Like, you know, there is part of me that gets scared because I feel like that thing gets backed into a corner and it decides to press the button. But I think that what's really what's happening is an amplification effect.

29:12I think acts of violence are becoming less but becoming more amplified because we're becoming so much more appalled at the idea of the barbarism of war and all the shit that humans do. I think that what's happening is God hates fags. These people pop up. And then what happens though? people organize from the internet and suddenly god hates fags is now whenever wherever they go they get surrounded by mobs holding signs god hates signs god hates this god hates that giant signs blocking them out so it's like the hate is getting absorbed it's getting it's not working it's not working it just seems like it's horrible because it's being broadcast to so many people but the way people are reacting that's what's important that's what's important as long as people are reacting you know that's the number one thing and not ignoring it that's great and as

30:09long as people are reacting in whatever way just fucking as simple as the thing is like just tweeting just tweeting something retweeting something about some of the violence that's happening just anything to get the information out there and keep that fucking pot bubbling that's great man that'll that that will continue to push the warmongers into the periphery and I think that What just happened with Romney and fucking Obama? Well, we're lucky. Look what's going on with Egypt. The new president decided to give himself all-powerful status. But look what's happening. Even there, look what's happening. It's not working. It's not fucking working. This stuff isn't working in the way it used to work. And that's the shift. The mojo that these fucking old white dudes used to have is fading. It's fading away, man.

30:56It feels like the magic is leaving them, which is why it's so beautiful when you watch Karl Rove on Fox News having a little Wizard of Oz-style man-behind-the-curtain meltdown as he realizes that his evil scheme to try to get Romney into power didn't fucking work. That's cool. That's fascinating, isn't it? That's cool. That's beautiful. He was like, no, the numbers are wrong. The numbers are wrong. Yeah. He wouldn't admit it, man. He wouldn't admit to defeat. Yeah, it's great to watch. And a lot of them are like, that's what's happening. They don't want to admit – they're always upholding the virtues of this country and how we come from revolution. But when the real revolution starts happening, they're like, I'm going to secede now. I'm going to secede because the real revolution isn't a revolution where we all get to hide in our shacks and collect our fucking guns. Look at this photo.

31:43This photo is 200,000 Egyptians and they're protesting. What's crazy is they're protesting around an ancient obelisk. Wow. It's from the dynastic Egypt. It's this incredible stone mystery that's covered in hieroglyphs. And these people are protesting around it and screaming and yelling that you can't have fucking – we're done. Like we elected someone. The idea is that we're now in a democracy. You cannot have this crazy power grab. But he wants to say that he can't get arrested. He can't go to jail. He can't be tried. Didn't work. Look at that. Didn't work, asshole. It's amazing, though, that he would want to do that. And he says it's because of his opposition, because his opposition would try to do terrible things. The Muslim Brotherhood? Well, he's the Muslim Brotherhood. Oh, he is? Yeah, the Muslim Brotherhood is what's in power now. At least I believe so.

32:34I believe that's how it goes. For some reason, I don't think that, but I don't know. I haven't, I don't know. You might be right. I don't know. Okay, well, here it goes. Protesters stormed the headquarters of the Muslim Brotherhood in the country's second largest city of, yeah. So it's the Muslim Brotherhood. It is the Muslim Brotherhood. So this guy wanted to do something where he didn't have any, he had no worries whatsoever about ever being arrested. And essentially he could be a dictator. He wanted to be a dictator. Right. And they're like, no, bitch. This isn't working. Sorry. It's the same thing as like, it's just whenever you start letting freedom out of the bottle, man, you're not going to get the freedom back in. Once people feel that sense of like, holy shit, if we get together, we can change things in a big way. Yeah.

33:17You're not going to be suddenly there and be like, all right, you're okay. We'll let you be the new dictator. It's like, no, man, we've learned. We've learned how to change things through the group mind. Do you think it's possible, though, that moving forward we're ever going to get to a position of no – we'll have no one above anyone else, no one in a position of, like, president or where they can take executive privilege? Like Obama did that with that whole gun running thing, with that whole – you know that whole – what the fuck they call it? Fast and Furious? Yes. Where they sold guns to the Mexican drug lords just to track them, and those guns wound up being used on American citizens. Like, it doesn't make any sense. The story makes no sense.

33:56Like, the story that they would sell guns to the Mexican drug lords so they could track the guns, that's one of the dumbest fucking ideas I've ever heard in my life. You're going to arm them with thousands of guns so that you could track those guns. Who do you think they're going to do with those guns? They're going to kill people. That's the craziest idea I've ever heard. Stupid. It's almost like that's their excuse, like that's what they're going to say, and they have it planned out and make it look like that's what they're doing, but really what they're doing is they're profiting on selling guns. Could be. And they're just playing dumb. Yeah. That makes a lot more sense to me. It doesn't make any sense to me that someone would think that selling criminals' guns is a good idea because then you could track the guns. Like, what the fuck are you talking about?

34:32Dude, we don't – I mean that's a problem. And that shit gets so obscured by like – they have so many great ways of like diffusing information, of adding information to information that's not real, of subtracting shit that it becomes – who the fuck knows what it is? Right, but when it becomes a part of like the government where the president doesn't have to get tried on this. He can invoke this executive privilege. He doesn't have to testify. That's squirrely. That shit's squirrely. I don't think there's ever a time where anyone should be able to say, oh, I had something to do with that whole guns being sold to fucking crazy people who kill people on a regular basis, but I don't want to talk about it. You either knew about it or you didn't know about it. It's like we hired you, bitch. You got to talk about it.

35:18And if you knew about it and you didn't do anything about it, that's incompetence. That's crazy. If you let that fly, if Obama let that fly, that's one of the dumbest things a president could ever approve ever. So we should know. We should know whether or not, especially in the time of a reelection when that was going on. There's no way he shouldn't have to say, well, I thought it was a good idea at the time. They assured me these guns would misfire. You know, there was no, there was no. Or like Romney's tax returns. Like that shit, like that kind of information should be all on the table. Yeah, you should know how much he paid in taxes because you know how rich he is. And if he really did weasel it out and then the last couple of years decided to start paying a lot of taxes to show, you know, so he had it on paper.

35:57if you're running for the office like that yeah I mean that's that the idea is you know to change this fucking businessman president into like public servant president that's that's the idea that you want you want the fucking guy who like runs costco I just said rather saw this thing on reddit the guy who runs costco pays his employees like eighteen dollars an hour minimum they have health insurance and he only makes five hundred thousand dollars a year this is the guy who fucking runs costco like think about that meanwhile the guy who runs walmart is like something out of fucking pink floyd the wall he's just some pig man he's like you know what I mean it's crazy it's crazy but that's the shift man we want more things shifting to that so that you get the costco version of the fucking president that's like yeah

36:43you know I'm really just in this because I'm trying to make this this country prosperous and the people in this country have as much access to, like, healthcare and what they need to live really great lives. So more Richard Branson, less Rupert Murdoch. Yes. These old fucking warlock pigs, man. Drive them into the shadows. Warlock pigs. That would be an awesome name for a band. Warlock pigs. Yeah, man. We need more Bransons, Interstellar Travel. We need more fucking Steve Jobs, you know. We need more fucking like more of that running the show. And I think that's going to happen more and more. Well, you know, what I'm really impressed with when you talk to people that work for Google, when you talk to people that work for Google and they tell you what a great company is to work for and how well they're treated and like the facilities, their campus, I guess they call it a campus. Yes.

37:36You know, you hear those kind of stories like you know that it's possible that a company can operate like that. Dude, any kind of super, anyone who's plugging into this vibe that's happening right now, whatever the fuck this thing is, man, you know right away that it's all about connectivity. And you know right away that the feeling you get from like giving more than you're supposed to give is such an awesome feeling. And that feeling, that state of mind where you're putting out more than you're supposed to be putting out, it seems like in that state of mind is where the bigger ideas come from anyway. It's like that's creating a fertile ground in your consciousness to open up for like the big ideas.

38:12But if you shut down, closed down, if you're fucking – if you're just one big human muscle spasm pushing all your gems into the black pit of your life, hoarding and hiding and concealing, then you're shut down. That's when you turn into Donald Trump with his dumbass tweets. He's so silly. Who's sillier than that guy? Did you pay attention to that shit, Brian? Yeah, I don't like the guy anymore. I used to like him a lot, but he just seems like he's a crazy kook now. Yeah, right? Like something happened. Something happened. Like he shifted. Yeah. It's that Trump water. I can't see your face the way we have everything set up. This is stupid. Yeah. I know. I'm going to see you, sweetie. We should put a TV on the other side of this monitor. Yeah. I don't want you. You could be making funny faces at me. I wouldn't even know. How dare you?

39:03We're still working this place out, ladies and gentlemen. My mic sounds weird It sounds like I'm a robot Sounds fine, though I think it's the Lakers knowing that you Don't like them, but you're wearing their headset Oh, yeah They're getting mad Oh, that's Lakers colors Skullcandy gave us these Thanks, Skullcandy Do you have the Bill Burr ones down there? Bill Burr ones? Oh, yeah, the Boston Celtics Come on! Celtics, they have them, I guess, for basically every team Are these good headsets, man? I've been real close to forking out some dope. No, I'll give you a pair of these. I'll get them for you. Hell yeah. They're awesome. Yeah, Skullcandy's been sending them to us. They're like $140. Yeah, they're expensive. They're good, though. They sound fucking wicked. Yeah. They sent me this whole email explaining how they spent a lot of money on research and development

39:53to try to make really good-sounding ones. Initially, they were more of a lifestyle company. They had good ones, but now they're concentrating on really creating something that a DJ would listen with. I leave fucking earbuds scattered across this fucking country like spiders thread. And chargers. Just chargers and fucking earbuds everywhere I go. And sunglasses. And sunglasses. I lost my goddamn iPad. I lost my fucking digital recorder. I'm like a fucking 11-year-old with like bad ADD at a summer camp on this last tour I did. I left shit everywhere. You even lost me. Well, see, first of all. I have lost the puppet. You lost little hobo. Hey, what about me? saying this last tour whenever you go on tour man like you're going from one hotel room to another hotel room you're lucky if you keep 80 of your shit it's amazing how much you lose dude

40:45it's amazing yeah dude do you feel bad not that I do this but I think you might do it do you like do you feel guilty when you like when you like jizz in the hotel room and like what do you throw the tissue down have you ever done that and you realize you left your fuck what do you wipe it in I throw it you feel bad you just throw it on the wall oh your joke yeah well you know what I mean like I feel bad for the maids man like like all the fucking the maids I just started fucking tipping the maids I didn't even know you're supposed to do that yeah I that's something I just woke up to yeah I like yeah I just started doing that but but unfortunately for many many maids have like had to pick up a crusty old thing and like How many of them sucked on the napkins? Ugh. I don't know. How many of them are immortal now? Take in your salty napkins. Oh, like that's what they feed on?

41:43Yeah, like a washcloth just sucking on the washcloth. They fight over them? You come in the bathroom and she doesn't know that you used your key to get back in because she didn't hear the door open because she's making that sucking noise. She's like on top of it like a praying mantis eating a fucking bug. vampires slowly starting to bring color back to her face. God, vampires were so close to being awesome, man. If only they wanted jizz, huh? Well, that would be the succubus. They would be attached to your dick and balls with knife-like teeth so that you were scared to move. So you'd lay there in terror, and you would just shoot a load out of pure fear. And they would just keep sucking on it, and they wouldn't let you pull it out. Oh, God, oh, God, please don't, please don't. And you know that feeling after you come where you want to like, ah, ah, ah, ah,

42:26Like if someone touches your dick, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it tickles almost. Like it's too crazy. Blowjob. Imagine that if a giant succubus with teeth is attaching itself to the head of your dick and sucking on it. And you can't pull your dick back because if you do, it gets shredded. And you feel the stinger on your neck kind of push in a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you start struggling too much. Yeah, this giant stinger like a scorpion comes over the top of your head. So while you're blowing it, while it's sucking your dick, its stinger is attached to your spine. And you're looking out in this weird cave it's dragged you into, and it's just all withered dude corpses. Maybe a couple of guys still alive. And the stinger has two vice-like tentacles on either side that clamp down on your neck.

43:09So right before it pushes that stinger against your spine, those things get tighter and tighter. You just feel it. You know, don't go anywhere. I'm sucking your dick. Yeah, and this is going to go on for five years. giant teeth. Dude, I never pictured them like that. Like, when I think of a succubus, I think of World of Warcraft. This fucking hot chick with, like, leather boots, like a dominatrix with a little whip that, like, you know, over-fucks you, but it's great. Maybe it starts out as a beautiful girl, and then you realize, in the middle of having sex with it, like, sort of like Jack Nicholson when he's making out with that lady in The Shining, and then all of a sudden she was, like, 100 years old, with cancer all over her back. Maybe that's how it gets you. maybe it looks like rose mcgallon and then you move in for the kill you start squeezing her ass

43:53and all of a sudden she morphs into this thing yeah and just you're you can't move I think that's to hold your neck and then it starts sucking you off yeah I think that's the story of a lot of people's fucking lives man it is it always starts off like that next thing you know you're all you're clamped into some kind of that's a it's a symbol you know it's like the the sirens that like sing and the sailors crash their ships on the island you know it's all the same fucking story right how come guys don't see those in prison like you know some girl with a fake girl with a key that's gonna let you out do you never hear of like crazy hallucinations in prison I don't know about that I'm pretty sure there's some pretty crazy hallucinations in prison yeah but I mean like that kind of reoccurring theme of like uh someone with a light near the uh rocks

44:37going come on over here oh yeah and the sailors smash into the rocks prison harpies yeah there's Prison harpies, man. They're called trannies. We had Victor Conte on. He was telling us about his time in a minimum security prison where you were really allowed to leave whenever you want. People would come and pick up their family. You only had to stay there a certain amount of time. You could get passes to leave. He said that the security guards, like there was a girl security guard that would make money prostituting herself. Like you could go get some head from the security guard. She made a lot of extra money that way. It makes sense to me, these poor bastards. How are you not going to let these guys fuck, man? That's why there's so many problems. It's awful, man. I would add that to the goddamn Constitution. If you're in prison, you get a blowjob a month.

45:22No, because you've got to be around some crazy fucking people that want to kill women. What if you're around some really crazy serial murderer character and someone's got to suck his dick? Whose job should that be? Another serial murderer. A guy? Yeah, whatever. Dude, who cares? There's just a fucking hole in the wall. You know what's on the other end. And it's like, you make it very like... These guys would bite each other's dicks off. There's no way. You fucking defang them. You can't defang a guy. Because he's on the other end. If he grabs a hold of it... Detooth it. Just pulls it out with his hands. Look, I haven't perfected this system yet, but I'm working on it. Because if he couldn't blow you with his hands, it would be an inferior blowjob. Even through a hole in a wall. You'd be like, what the fuck? Let me just take it down from this disgusting level it's gotten.

46:03Have you heard about the new program where they give prisoners kittens? Have you heard about this? Yeah, I have heard. And it makes them like... The phone number? What's that? He wants to give away a cat. Oh, you had so sad. I'm down two of my pets. I have one left. Dude, yeah, it's really cool. But it's like just like having these fucking cats is changing the prisoner's behavior in massive ways, man. Because they know that if they get in fights, they lose their cat. So they don't want to fucking lose the cat. So it's like it creates this like it adds peace. You got to bring love into prison. That's the problem, man. Love is the answer, brother. Yeah, man. Love you. It is, goddammit. What I got. With a little fucking kitten can transform some hardcore thug into somebody who's like, you know, I'm not going to fight because Princess is back in the cell and I don't want to lose her.

46:51That's love, man. That's the most powerful thing. That's a lot more powerful than being like, we'll put you in solitary confinement if you fuck up. How many of these guys are actually fucking the cat, though? A lot. Most of them, right? Yeah. Maybe the cat has like a special attachment when you stick a dick in its ass and the alarm goes off. You get an RFID chip. and you push the button with your cock. Dude, try to fuck a cat. You're not going to have to fuck a cat. They probably do an operation on the cat where there's like a little toggle, and as long as the poop's going that way, it passes the toggle and it doesn't go off. But if a dick goes in the other way, click, it hits the switch, and then the RFID chip signals the alarm. That's a cat. That's a fleshlight in prison. Yeah, they would fuck that cat. I think prisoners should have fleshlights, man. I don't know why we're acting like

47:36it's going to do anything good to try to chain someone's libidos in a cage. That's not going to add happiness to a prison or peacefulness. Everyone, you look at these prison rides, you're like, why are they riding? They're not fucking. These guys have so much testosterone in them, you're not letting them fuck. Yeah, but even if you give them fleshlights, that's not as good as raping a guy. That's part of the fun for them, I think, is holding someone down and getting that man pussy. When they're doing that to each other, that's part of what they're doing. Again, I'll disagree. This is like we're on CNBC. We're at a round table. I respectfully disagree. I love the way you phrased that. I'd rather be punched in the face than fuck a flashlight. Yeah, no shit, man. But, dude, I saw a terrifying thing. You ever seen that thing of the dude who's like the toughest prisoner in, like, Columbia?

48:30Have you ever seen that thing? And he's just like, that guy's a monster. And he's like, I make a man my girlfriend. I let him sleep in my bed. Yeah. What is it he says? It's like really... I give... I take sex from him. If not, I kill him. Yeah. I give him my food. Yeah. It's a really dark African guy. Yes. I fucked him. A new guy come, I fuck him. Yeah. I fuck him. I have sex with him. Yeah. Yeah. That... Well, that... Yeah, that kind of shit. Brian, if you find that, pull that up because it's just the audio alone. It's like most evil prisoner of all time or something is what it's called. Or just beast, prisoner, man, monster. It might knock us offline, but I'll try. Yeah. Yeah, sons of bitches. And I just looked. You might be right. There might be nothing here. I just looked on this website that checks everything. Checks everything what? Like internet. Yeah, no, I'm right.

49:15How is there no fucking internet here? We're hiding. We're in the woods. Oh, yeah. We're in the woods of discovery. We're going to get it worked out. This sucks, but it's online. I'm looking at the video. It's not that bad. It's working. But most importantly, it's just got to go through a process. This whole thing is going through a process. It's exciting to me. I've never built anything before. I've never like slowly started and sort of organized and put it together. And to have it the way I want, like I love having the brick wall, like a real brick wall. I love the oak table. These are the early days. Yeah, this is, but I love, I love like real shit like that. Bricks and wood. It makes me feel good. That stuff makes the kind of like metal, like cast iron, like these, these legs and shit. Werewolf sculpture. Yeah, that too. Perfect. I'm going to bring one of my Buddhas in too. Yeah.

50:02My Buddha's going to rock it in the corner. You should bring a gold one. Not the big one. It's too hard to move. The big one's too hard to move, but I got another one that's pretty big, too. It's going to go here. Cool, man. Watch over us. Badass. Any suggestions? What else should I do this place? Fucking a float tank. Yeah, but that's – no one's going to – what are you going to do? Are you going to have some going there? Yes. And they're going to be annoying. Yeah, man. Float tank, and then you give your pals keys to this place so they can come out here and float. Yeah, come back. Or just go to the float lab. Con is everywhere. Where's float lab? Venice. Duncan was here written in blood on the wall. Oh, yeah. I would waste blood on paint. Maybe a little period blood. Oh, who knows? Have you seen those blood bricks that they can make now? What?

50:45It's a brick that they take blood and they mix it with something and it makes a brick. And they're making houses out of these blood bricks. Oh, my God. That's great. Who's blood? I don't know. Yeah. How do you know there's not a couple of people mixed in your house? Well, no. That's cool. I'll tell you this. If I was going to die, I wouldn't mind somebody withdrawing my blood and using it for blood bricks for their house. Would you rather that or Tibetan sky funeral? Sky. Well, no, both. Turn my blood into bricks and let the buzzards eat me. Wow. Well, you could probably grind most of you and turn into bricks. Why? Why just fuck with the blood? I don't know. I mean, you just said blood bricks. I wouldn't like that whole idea of like the way we do death in this country is so goddamn sterile and fucked up. Well, it's a scam.

51:28First of all, the big scam is that you have to pay for the funeral and that it's really expensive. And you have to pay a lot of money for a casket and you have to embalm the body. Bullshit. They have it set up where the body gets embalmed, I believe, even if it gets cremated. I think you still have to embalm the body. I think that's the law. Dude, the Tibetan sky ritual is such a beautiful fucking thing, man. When you watch someone turn into a bunch of birds, that's really cool to watch that happen. Do you guys have wills? I don't yet. I need one. Do you know if you don't have a will? I think. I'm not 100% sure, but the government just takes all your shit. Even if you have living parents in another state. I gotta get a will. I don't think that's true. I think it goes to the next of kin. Joe, if something fucking happens to me, dude, you can have my little

52:17hobo and my computer. Oh, dude, that's all I want. I own two things. That's all I want. I gotta piss again. You gotta piss again? Dude, I drank so much coffee today. Go ahead, go ahead. We don't have much time left in this podcast unfortunately because uh I got a big stupid important meaning where's it at because that highway was fucked I don't know if you got my text message there was like five cars all cop cars it seemed like that guy in a car accident and the whole freeway is closed which freeway 101 oh great whoopsies whoopsie days well I'll try I'll try I'll try to make it but If I don't make it, I don't really give a fuck. I hate to leave anybody hanging. The more I think about yesterday's podcast, I don't know if I want to say this. Say it. The more I think that guy is a tweaker. You think so? Yeah. Most people thought that. Really?

53:08A lot of people who listened in thought he was off and that he would contradict himself. and the fact that he knew so much about those drugs, but yet there was, you know, we read on Gizmodo, they didn't cite sources, but they said, you know, sources close to him say that, you know, he's always been interested in finding drugs that make women sexual. It kind of goes along with the whole 67-year-old guy, 20-year-old girlfriend thing. You know, it sounds like a dude who's just, that's his thing. I don't know. I mean, he claims not, but he knows so much about them, man. How the fuck do you know so much about bath salts and MDPV and these different hypersexual compounds? And how could he tell us the exact chemical composition of it? Remember when he told us what it actually was? Why would you say that unless you have great interest in it?

53:56And then the other thing was saying that I'd have to be addicted. You can't do that? Then I would be on it right now. Do I sound like I'm on it? He might be on it right now. But I don't necessarily think that a strong-willed man like that has to be addicted to something. What's the highlight? Supposedly really hypersexual. that's the thing but I figure if you're a guy a guy like mccathy he's you know he created this business he's like a very headstrong guy very powerful guy a guy like that could probably quit a really fucking dangerous drug for a little bit sure you know he could it's it's hard to tell when someone lies about anything if they lie about anything or don't or they're not completely honest about anything you immediately have to look at the whole thing and go well if he's not telling

54:39the truth about doing those drugs then how can I listen to all the other stuff yeah it sounds it sounds like it's a lot of who the fuck knows what to believe at that at that point and the fact that he has no charges nothing like on record like like there's no warrant for his arrest there's nothing it kind of made me think that he was just super paranoid well it could be that it could be that you know I mean I told you there was that story that someone had said that He thought that there was people outside, and he had a conversation. I heard this. I heard this. This you can get on Wired, this discussion. This is something. Hold on a second. I'll find it because maybe we could pull it up, and it's audio anyway. Wired, I think it's McAfee off the rails. Crazy audio. um but he was talking about how the there was these people and they were um they were standing

55:41there they were like military people and they were standing there and they didn't say anything they just just stood there and he wouldn't move and so he just stood there too and they slowly went away like after hours and hours like so he was like standing there he was talking about like how much his arm hurt because he was leaning up against this wall, but he couldn't move. If he moved, they would shoot him. What the fuck? Yeah, but then people were saying there's no footprints there. There's like, he's... Was that house that somebody posted on your message board, the guy that died? It was like a shack that had an American flag in it. I don't know. I don't know whose house that was. Yeah. Is that what it was supposed to be? I thought the guy died. That's somebody that died because it was like this I mean it looked like a shack like it just looked like a junkyard shack

56:31you know yeah he's fucking I don't know man yeah I I could that was an interesting podcast because I kept on thinking about it after when I got home and then the more I thought about it was just like you know this just seems like something's not right it was cool though that he he um was willing yeah you know it was cool that he did it that's I feel like I'm just getting trolled though maybe that's what it seems like doesn't it I hope so it seems like I hope so smells like a big old troll Yeah, I hope so. I'm trying to find in this. I'm trying to find this because it's really interesting. I really want to play it. Okay, here it is. If you go to audio, just look at this. Google search this. Audio, McAfee still in hiding, predicts they will track me down. What a brilliant man. The picture of him is him, of course, shirtless with a gun. Another different photo of him shirtless with a gun.

57:30Like apparently he posed for quite a few photos while holding a gun. McAfee predicts during podcasts being broadcast to millions of people, they will track me down. But he's, you know, I appreciate the fact that the guy was willing to talk to us. I mean, it was pretty interesting to be able to talk to someone who's in this crazy scenario. Yes, that's cool. who is a crazy person in a crazy scenario it sounds like he's an eccentric you know I definitely think I mean that's a lot of what it takes to become some super millionaire type character yeah yeah it's true I mean that's the thing man you've got to be able to like let your mind go into the weird places but you got to be able to come back you see this picture brian this is the one that that's the that's the audio you're looking for wait for it to pull up is it pull up yeah it's um

58:17the whole story is so compelling it's so hunter s thompson-esque like this guy just goes off the rails on an island 67 years old 20 year old girlfriend yeah pictures of him with guns yeah surrounded by dogs he's got 11 dogs you know I mean it's like wow it's like feral he went feral it's amazing and he has all these lawsuits that are coming after him and he will not pay he's like I simply will not pay. He goes, I will spend $10 million to fight it to give them nothing. What are the lawsuits about? Well, one of them was about he had this, he was connected to this sort of a sport where they would fly these, looks like motorcycles that are attached to kite wings. It's really crazy, and they're really maneuverable apparently. But they would do these low altitude, you know, not even altitude, I mean, low off, I mean, basically just very close to the ground.

59:12they would do these things like acrobatics spin around on these fucking planes well someone crashed and died right and so he got sued and that's when he decided apparently to move to belize he just loaded up his truck and he moved to beverly he just got the fuck out and I guess belize won't extradite him or something I don't know how it works but if if he apparently says that if he loses the court cases it doesn't matter they'll just come take his money like if if you lose you lose but that he doesn't believe that he's guilty because he wasn't even driving it he wasn't responsible he wasn't responsible for maintaining it it wasn't his you know what I mean it's like it wasn't his fault this guy died like this but apparently he was like working hard to promote this crazy sort of a sport john mcafee yeah who was calling to tell me that the police

60:03were closing in he had spent the night in an undisclosed house in belize sleeping on a bed infested with lice and that he felt that the end was near, that they would arrest him at any minute, but he was not going to surrender because he was convinced that they would kill him. I've been following McAfee's case in Belize for the past six months, ever since April 30th, when the police raided him and accused him of being a drug trafficker and possessing illegal firearms. Over those six months, I've spent weeks in Belize and interviewed McAfee both in person and on the telephone probably over 100 hours of interviews. And I can say without a doubt that he is a very complex person. But whether or not he's a murderer is yet to be seen. I recorded McAfee's phone calls to me this morning with his permission, and what follows are those calls.

60:54One of the charges against you is that you're a psychopath. What do you have to say about that? Well, if I were a psychopath, I would not be confident to comment on it other than to say yes or no. And either one, if I were a psychopath, would be irrelevant. I do not think I'm a psychopath. I like people. I think psychopaths are sort of anti-social folks that hate people. I tend to love people. I tend to love people in spite of their faults in spite of the things that they do or attempt to do to me you're well aware of Marcia for example who plotted for three months to have me kidnapped for money and yeah whenever you hear shit like plotted she lived with me after that for two additional months before it finally got too intense this is a good question why do you surround yourself with people of questionable character well I surround myself with people of unquestionable character

62:04too, Eddie and Cohn I don't know a more honest God-fearing person yourself, I think I befriended you and embraced you as I embraced anyone else this is not even the audio that I was looking for unfortunately that's pretty good though That's pretty good. But the other one was better because it was really nuts. Dude, when I worked at the comedy store, there was this lady who would call. I can't remember her name. But she would call and like – it was interesting the way that her insanity functioned because she'd call and be like – she would always say she used to work out there. I can't remember her name. But then she'd like start being like, yes, you know. Yeah, last Wednesday, three men came into my house and they raped me and left. and would slip in these really weird, hardcore stories. She called a few times, and there was always these plots against her.

62:53They did like, you know, I was kidnapped. And she was just making things up. But she believed it, and you know what I mean? It's like when your mind, and I'm not saying, I don't know about McCann. I don't know. Who knows? Maybe he's all together. Maybe he's totally there. People are really plotting against him. I mean, rich people live in a different land. but it's interesting how like people who are paranoid the way it comes out it's not like they're gonna be like everybody's out to me it's the idea that people are looking to kidnap them she's been plotting to kidnap me for when someone starts talking and that's sort of matter-of-factly yeah there's a disconnect there from reality as well dude we got to end this podcast I'll get the fuck out of here I'm so sorry but we'll do it again quite soon cool let's do it again as often

63:34as possible yes please powerful powerful duncan powerful brian driving all the way over here for 40 minutes of Ustream. You're the fucking man. And we'll be back tomorrow at 3 p.m. here with the great Eddie Bravo. So we're going to have some fun. And then this weekend, Duncan, me, and just three of us in this room will be in Austin, Texas. Yes. And we'll be performing at Austin City Limits. It should be really fun. The Moody Theater, it's called. And I'm fucking really looking forward to that. We don't get a chance to go to Austin that often. I love Austin. It's one of the greats. I would marry Austin. I would marry the fuck out of Austin. It's a great city. Definitely marry Austin. I'll let Austin come back. All right. This show had no commercials in the beginning. We'll have none in the end. I am sorry, sponsors, but go fuck yourself today. Powerfulonit.com. That's it.

64:20This fucking show's over. How did you get that? Go to Duncan Trussell, T-R-U-S-S-E-L-L, and follow his ass on Twitter. Duncan Trussell.com. Iron Lord Meat Shift Challenge. If you want to get in shape in December, we're all going to get in shape together. Yes, he's got a meat shift challenge. Everyone that is connected to this must commit to doing what is absolutely necessary and writing all your shit down and getting shape. And Duncan's going to do it. I got a trainer who's going to be on the podcast every week. I'm fucking psyched. I love to hear that, man. Brian, you in? No. I sounded angry. I sounded angry with it. All right. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Thank you very much. God bless your motherfucker. See you. God bless your motherfucker.