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00:00Joe Rogan podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day! Who sings that? How dare you? How dare you say who sings that? No, who's, uh... Angus Young. No, Angus Young is the guitarist, right? Ways on the job. It's, uh... God damn it. My brother used to beat the shit out of me with that music. That's right. And then before him, Bon Scott. Bon Scott died of a drug overdose, right? Oh, man. Is that how he died? Just went too hard. That's the thing. It's that moment where you're like, do we want to go any harder? I saw a video of Angus on stage the other night, like recently.

00:53He's like seven years old. From ACDC. Going ham. Yeah. Old fucking dude white hair just dance. See if you find that video just dancing around on stage Carlos still up. He's like dad. You didn't even put me down yet It takes three minutes to calm him you got a fuck you got a whole system Three or four minutes and then by it for sure seven or eight he's asleep We get him a weighted. Do they have a weighted blanket or not for him? I don't think they do that for dogs that much anxiety He's pretty good. Does that really work with people? I feel like there's other ways. There's that one video that really kind of weak kid who gets trapped under one or whatever. Have you ever seen that at that birthday party? How big is the blanket? I mean, I guess it's like 80-pound test or whatever. I don't know. Heavy threat. Like a Marlin blanket? Marlin line?

01:46I mean, I don't know how heavy the threat was, but it's like he's trying to text for help or whatever. Jesus Christ. Oh, so it's just a joke. No, no. It has to be a joke. For real? No, he was really trapped? Yeah, it looked like he was very much trapped under there. Oh, man. He was very, I don't want to say malnourished or unnourished. He didn't like to eat or whatever. One of those kids only eats nuggets or whatever. Oh, well, nuggets are better than just chips. At least nuggets are some kind of protein. Yeah. I mean, some kind of. What do you think Bobby Kennedy's going to do when he gets into the White House? Did we start? I think we're starting. Are we rolling? I've been going.

02:26Yeah, we're rolling. Okay. What do you think they're going to get rid of nuggets? See, here's my take on, like, I was just reading this whole thing about Chick-fil-A, and they were saying, this is the most dangerous food in America. The number one burger, Chick-fil-A is like the number one fast food sandwich, chicken sandwich, and there's a fucking thousand ingredients, and this is like... Yeah, just don't eat it every day, stupid. Yeah. I eat them. I'm healthy. I'm real healthy. You just don't eat them every fucking day. You enjoy them. Yeah. That's not your primary diet. Yeah, if you're going over there every day or whatever, leaving your kids at home to go get one or something. If you're lying. You're just fiending for Chick-fil-A all day. Well, they're so good. And they come in that little bag.

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04:41Feel good. Still work out. Still feel healthy. The key is just don't make that most of what you eat. Yeah. Every now and again, a little Chick-fil-A is not going to hurt nothing. Yeah. Treat your lady. Treat your friend. Treat yourself. Treat yourself. Get off of work. I'm going to have one today. I'm going to get me a double-double from In-N-Out. Fuck it. That's a lot, though. Double. Just get a regular one. If you're going to go hard, go all the way hard. See, I'm the guy who I would get two singles instead of getting a double. You know what I get at In-N-Out?

05:10I get the Flying Dutchman. Oh. You know what that is? Uh-uh. It's just patties with cheese on it. Mmm. And there's no hate. It's so good. It's so good because it's fresh. Because In-N-Out doesn't freeze their meat. Their meat is always fresh. So when you get those, I mean, it's just perfect, man. Just two burger patties with two slices of cheese, and I pick those greasy bitches up, and nom, nom, nom, nom. And I feel great. I don't feel bad at all. It's like the closest thing you can get to healthy food at a fast food spot. And there's no bread on them? No bread. No bread, no nothing, no sauce, no ketchup. And what do you pick them up with?

05:47You pick them up with two forks? My fingers like a fucking pig, like a sloppy glutton. I just resigned myself. That's that Missouri sushi, dude. It's meat and cheese. Just meat and cheese and greasy fingers. That's that Montana sashimi, brother. It's so hot you can barely hold on to it. Oh, people do it with the onions on it, too. Yeah, I've had that. Oh, I haven't seen all this. The onions is good, but my way is no onions. I have a block on my computer. I don't think I can look at some of this stuff. Yeah. Oh, yeah. If I put the Flying Dutchman, dude, it's going to bring up. My buddy Cody gets them with onions inside of them, so they slice up the onions, put it inside of them, grilled onions inside. That's nice. I love onions. I think onions are a underrated Food do you think onions have any nutrition in them at all? I love onions too. Yeah about whenever I eat onions I'm like what am I doing here? This isn't there's nothing here, right? But there's something about them. It's like oh, yeah, but you want some huh? Well, there's a tinge to you Don't I love yeah, I love a good tomato and onion salad You know yeah when they give those like beefsteak tomatoes like heirloom tomatoes with slices of onion and some balsamic on that bitch I love the salt That's nice. Oh, I love that and it's like an old-school New York Steakhouse thing, you know like a barata style thing. That's good too. Yeah, right. You're great

07:16Oh barata and the tomatoes you can't go wrong, but the onions and tomatoes tomato and onion salad was like a steakhouse thing I never really saw it anywhere else. But tomato and onion salad was a big thing in New York steakhouses. Yeah, baby, that sounds good. I like when you get, there's a Vidalia onion. You ever seen that one? No. That's a beautiful onion. Bring one up, if you don't mind, Jamie. But let's guess, though, because I genuinely have no idea. Okay. Do you think there's any nutritional content in onions? Let me think about it. Let me think about it while I'm eating one. I don't know. There might be some sneaky shit that only Andrew Huberman can tell you about. You know, some weird ingredient. Like a back-end magnesium or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some weird shit.

08:14That's a Vidalia onion? Okay, so I think I've seen them before. I just didn't know they had a different name. Those are good. There is a lot of nutritional value. I have it on the next tab. Okay, that's what I want to know. Impressive health benefits of onions. Oh, okay. Now I feel better for liking onions. Tell me what can they do for you. Vitamin C. Easy. We should have known it. Let's see. Look at all that. There's a little sugar? Interesting. 4.7 grams of sugar in an onion. Imagine how nasty it would take without that sugar. How nasty would onions taste if they taste that good with that much sugar?

08:46And just say, just God put a touch in there. He knew it. Has anybody ever had onions, sliced onions with sugar all over it? Mmm, I don't know. Damn, that might be good. Because you would think it would bring the sugar out even more. More, right? You know what I had the other day that was really good? Watermelon with salt on it. You ever have that? No, I haven't had that. Dude, it's like, it's you either love it or you, what the fuck have you done to watermelon? Oh, I could see that. I love it. Mexican people like to put crazy shit on fruit. Yeah. Chili mango, man. That's a big one in Mexico. You like this fruit and they're like, now you'd like it or what, motherfucker? It's spicy fruit. Yeah, they get crazy, dude.

09:27But chili mango works uniquely. Like, out of all spicy fruits, that's the one that caught on so much it made it to potato chips. Chili mango? Yeah, chili mango's in everything. I haven't had that. Oh, dude, I drink chili mango element. You know what element is? Like the hydration mix? Uh-uh. It's nice. I like hydration, though. That's Rob Wolf's company, right? I believe so. Dude, why is there so much hydration now? And also, dude, I just want to say thank you to Mexican people just for doing everything that they do, dude. I feel like every week we should have a round of applause for Mexican people, I feel like, in America. Well, it's weird to want to keep them out. They have some of the best food. They're the nicest people. They're some of the hardest working people. And they're organ donors, too, a lot of them.

10:14Well, that's awesome. One of the dumbest like stereotypes ever was like the lazy Mexican. Like, what are you talking about? Everyone I've ever met has like fucking three jobs. They're all working 12 hours a day. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Dude, I knew a Mexican guy. He had to leave work to go to his job. Bro. All the, it never ends, dude. You know, Mexicans used to have a feud with Puerto Ricans back in the day with boxing. In boxing, there was always like this feud between Mexicans and Puerto Ricans. And the Mexicans would always say that the Puerto Ricans didn't work hard enough. What? Like the discipline. Like some of the Puerto Rican guys were maybe more talented, but the Mexican guys were known for discipline. Like some of the great Mexican boxers, like Julio Cesar Chavez, one of the things about him was his volume was insane. Yeah. His knowledge of boxing was insane, but his volume was insane. And the only way you could have volume like that is if you have supreme conditioning and what does volume mean volume punch volume of punching Wow, you ever watched Julio Cesar Chavez one of the greatest of all time

11:20He passed away of all time. No, no, he's still alive. Oh good. And his son is boxing now his his son is a really good boxer Not at the level that his dad was but Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. Was one of the all-time greats, but he would just overwhelm people with volume and just break them down. Pull up a Julio Cesar Chavez highlight. Because when he was in his prime, one of the greatest fights of all time was him versus Meldrick Taylor. Meldrick? Meldrick Taylor, who's an Olympic gold medalist, phenomenal boxer. And he knocked out Meldrick Taylor with like 10 seconds to go in the final round. He made this dude cry? He made this dude cry? His hair should make him cry. Who's that against? Is that the dude from Red Clay Strays? That's his brother? It looks like he could be his cousin that wants money from him. It's my cousin, the boxer shit. It looks like fucking machine gun punching. So I don't know why he made this dude cry, but just get me a highlight because we don't have the time to watch him break this dude down.

12:28Give me just like a Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. highlight. She comes from Silver Spoons. Those guys, you got one of their jackets on, man. You're wearing a red case. I don't even realize that. Yeah, I am. They're great, man. Thank God this is warm. So in the 1990s, he was the fucking man. He was an animal. He was the man. He was, I forget what his record was before he had his first defeat, but it was something crazy. Like 80 or 90 fights. Before he had his first defeat. Yeah, it's athletical. Bro, is there a highlight of his knockouts? Just give me a highlight of him beating the fuck out of people. He was so good, dude. Look at this. He's about to cook this brother up. That was Meldrick Taylor.

13:13Oh. So Meldrick Taylor and him had an epic fight where Meldrick was winning at the beginning of the fight. Meldrick was very good. That's Meldrick? No, that's Pernell Whitaker. That was a fight where he probably shouldn't have won, but they gave it to him. And a lot of people, including myself, watch that and think Purnell Whitaker got robbed. Purnell Whitaker was like the slickest of all of the American boxers of his era. Wow. But Julio Cesar Chavez just broke Meldrick down later in the fight. What made him so good then? What made him? Well, you know, what makes a fighter? There's a lot of things. But he didn't stand out in terms like he wasn't faster than everybody or hit harder than everybody. He wasn't a one punch guy. He was a volume puncher. So he would put guys away by breaking them down. He would break their will and crush them That was what he would do and he would do with this fucking mean look on his face when he's just at the end of fights When he had guys broken, he would just overwhelm them and swarm them He was one of the most terrifying guys because he can keep his pace up 12 rounds no fucking problem like iron chin

14:17But different you know it's like who else that's the final punch that dropped Meldrick Taylor Wow And that was one where it was a fucked up call because Richard Steele knew that Meldrick Taylor was out, but there was really only two seconds left in the fight. But he still has to wave it off because the dude can't fight. Right. So it's kind of crazy. So all these people were mad at Richard Steele because if he didn't do that, Meldrick Taylor would have won the decision. So he stops the fight with like two seconds to go. How many seconds was it when he called the fight off? I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say two seconds. Might have been five seconds. And what were you doing in that situation then? Well, he's doing the right thing. The referee is there to save the fighter. If he takes one more punch in those two seconds and that one punch kills him, that's him. It's on him. 17 when he went down. So 17 he goes down. So let's see what happens. So he gives him the count, which is a standing eight count. And then he looks at him and he asks him a couple of questions. Give me some volume.

15:15So look, he's not looking at the clock. He's looking to save this guy. But look at him. Look at him. Wow. He looked him in the eye. He wasn't there. Three seconds left. But he's doing the right thing. He's doing the right thing. It's crazy if there's three seconds left, but he is doing the right thing. Because a referee's job is to make sure that they stay alive. Yes. Protect the fighter. Because a fighter wouldn't make the right choice, you're saying? Right. That's why a referee has to protect a fighter from a cut. Like if the cut's too bad, the referee has to call it or bring in a doctor to call it. There's some times where the referee, it's a judgment call, and sometimes they get it wrong because they're human. But it's a crazy job. They have the hardest job in the world.

15:59So the guys like Herb Dean, the guys like Mark Goddard, those guys need more praise because it's one of the most difficult jobs in all of combat sports other than being a fighter. The second most difficult for sure is being a referee. Wow. Because you've got to make these calls. You're in the middle of chaos in a world title fight where millions of people are watching. And you've got to keep this thing together in this very chaotic sport. That would be so tough. Yeah, I wonder, what are the requirements to be a referee? Like how much, you know, like to be one of those, like Mark Goddard or... Well, there's courses you can take. You know, I know Big John McCarthy was very instrumental in educating people. Herb Dean's very instrumental in doing this. There's a lot of these guys. Mark Goddard, they'll put together seminars and help guys that are coming up. There's probably a formal. Let's find out what is the website that's best for if someone wants to go and learn how to be a referee. You could probably just pull up in Memphis and start blowing the whistle on a bunch of shit. Most of them are massive fans, of course. Most of them train, like Mark Goddard trains. I believe Mark Goddard's a black belt in jujitsu. We'll have to check that.

17:13I heard Dean I know had a few MMA fights. Oh, so they also have a lot of them also have experience. You have to have some. You have to know what's going on because sometimes, especially in like submissions and things like that, like things get complicated real quick. Yeah. Like someone not letting go of an inside heel hook. And like that's a scary one. There's like, do you remember who Samar Pajares? Uh-uh. No way. His name was Taquino, which means tree trunk. That's like his nickname. Who's Samar? He's Brazilian? Who's Samar Pajares. He was the scariest guy of all time because he was all leg locks, and he was built like a tank. He was like 5'8", 185 pounds, just this fucking ball of muscle. And he would dive on dude's legs and just rip them apart. Oh, like a python. And wouldn't let go. Wouldn't let go of the legs.

18:05So the guy's beat happened. He's the only guy to ever get kicked out of the UFC winning. Because he was holding submissions they kicked him out. They said you can't do that What do you mean you can't do it? You can't do what? You gotta let go when the referee says stop. Oh, he can't crippling people You want to see a highlight that makes you cringe pull up who small Paul Jarez submission highlights? Oh, I don't want to see it Jake Shields punched him in the face after their fight because he got a hold of a Kimura Jake tapped and he still kept cranking on it Oh, he would do that with guys. He just was a pit bull. He wouldn't let go, but there's An unsportsmanlike aspect do you feel like sure that's on sportsman like at a certain point it seems like it is 100% yeah, you know you're gonna cripple a guy You know if you keep twisting on a knee he's gonna have to have surgery You know if a person taps that you let it's supposed to be that's it You know and there's the heat of the moment stuff But then there's some people that just do it over and over and over again, and there's you know folks that So look at he would do man. He would just get a hold of guy Look at his knee. Look, and he's still, he's tapping, and he's, that was with John Fitch. Show that one again. So he's tapping. So he gets this knee bar.

19:15This knee bar is awful. Look how bad it is. He's tapping, and he's still cranking. Still cranking. Wow. Yeah, still cranking. So it was like, he would hold on for an extra second or two, which is more than enough to destroy your knee. And they kicked him out. A second doesn't seem like a long time unless you're caught in a knee bar. That second's, that's an eternity where your knee is getting exploded, and you're tapping, and he won't let go. You gotta let go immediately when the person taps. Yeah, when the referee stops the fight You got to let go immediately now. Do you let go when the guy taps you like look at this air? The referee was on him the guy screaming in agony still cranking Yeah, he might have had a vengeance. He might have had a oh, he was a mean dude But he grew up very poor on a farm horrible upbringing You know it's like there's a kind of a crazy story to it a lot of pain a lot of pain grew up in extreme poverty and Like this scar on his chest the scar on his chest like they had a glue a wound that he had as a child like on the farm They glued it together. That's why there's this big scar in his chest just a hard man Yeah, and a scary dude if you got a hold of your legs because he wasn't gonna let go God I'm glad I don't know him I mean in some ways, you know

20:30Glad you're not grappling with him. Yeah, I'm glad I don't have to know him adversely. Damn, dude. I can't believe we saw Shane, too. Yeah, what did you say? He looked like a pickled egg? How dare you. That's what you're saying. I knew right away. You hadn't seen him in how long? As soon as you saw him, Shane's in the sauna, and you're like, you look like a pickled egg. Well, he looked like one of those kind of eggs in that little cage or whatever at the gas station, you know? Those bucket eggs. The ones that are on the bars. Give me one of them pickled eggs. Do you know how fucking hungry you have to be? These fucking eggs. Who knows how long they've been sitting there. You're like, yeah, give me one of them. There's always some trucker over there just bobbing for apples in the tank of them. I'm like, bleh, bleh, bleh.

21:21They look so unsanitary. Bro, in the fart that rips out of your body off of that thing. Boy, you're going to ban Chick-fil-A, but you're not going to ban that. I know. Dude, that has to be RFK's arch nemesis right there. Imagine if you were living off those eggs, the farts you would have. If that's your only food source. Like, let's imagine you're like stuck on a boat in the middle of the ocean with only bottled eggs. after a while your own farts are gonna make you jump in the ocean you're like i can't even be around myself but there's a lot of like there's that trucker's high that they get from huffing their own gas there's like a syndrome or something that starts from it from people just imagine what that can't be good for you right caging yourself up at 80 30 miles an hour with your own farts? And just cruising state to state? Just fucking... Just letting it go, baby. And the combination of things? Ring dings and pork rinds and fucking Pepsi. Saying fag over and over again. Just all of that just compiled at once into you. And then listening to conspiracy theorists talk on podcasts all day.

22:41Just deep into the murky waters of Alex Jones just hopped up. I've been on social media a little too much lately. Yeah? Yeah. I've been reading too many people fighting and arguing about stupid shit to the point where I'm starting to develop theories. And I don't want to. Well, I saw Alex Jones and he looks really good, doesn't he? Yeah. He's losing all weight. He looks like he has to go to court for something. No. Our friend Sean is helping him. He's working out with him every day. Yeah. Well, I noticed it like in a month. I just saw like, and I was like, oh my God. Yeah, he's really committed. He's going to do a documentary on it. He's got to do a documentary on taking back my health. It's so noticeable. I was like, wow, he looks handsome.

23:25But this is fucking theories that it's not even him. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's theories that they replaced him with a different guy. Yeah. Who did though? That's always the thing. That's the thing. But here's the thing. I know that's not true. Right. I know the guy who's training him. I know him. Like, I'm still in touch with him. Yeah. Like, I text Alex all the time. I know him. He's just losing weight. But if you go online, there's a lot of people that believe that this is, like, a different person. Yeah. There's a lot of people who believe he's been co-opted by the government.

23:55He has to chime in on every single thing that everybody wants him to. Otherwise, he's been co-opted. And I'm starting to develop these theories where I don't know how much of that conversation is real. I certainly think there's a percentage of that conversation that's real. What conversation you mean when people think that people have been co-opted? Okay, by the government like that they've become what are they? What is that one that they like to use controlled opposition? That's all you want to pretend to be a smart conspiracy theorist. You have to say controlled opposition I could easily see bro in two weeks Tom's the girl. We play in this guy. He looks great. That's all it is He looks great, but he doesn't look like the same person not at all dude because he's laid off the booze He's laid off the booze. He's not eating any bullshit. I don't know. What was he drinking? A lot, bro. Really? Yeah, he's investigating satanic pedophiles all day long. Yeah, sometimes you want to take the edge off. Yeah, bro. I mean, he looks totally different now. He looks like Randy Orton. Now, but imagine if this was no internet. Imagine there's no internet. So we don't know. You believe in a heartbeat it wasn't a rogue guy. Sure. There's no way that's the same guy. This guy on the left looks 15 years younger. Oh, yeah, dude. A chubby guy used to do the pool when I worked at this farm one time. He used to do the pool. And one year he got on Dexatrim or some illegal fat burner or whatever. And he came and did the pool one time when I was there. And I didn't even believe it was him and never believed it.

25:27Totally different. Yeah. So, yeah, if you didn't have stuff like this, you would be like, that's not the same guy. So this was just the television days. No social media. Yeah, I think that they've recasted the guy cuz something happened to him over the office 100% you would think oh Someone replaced Alex Jones with a fake Alex Jones, but he would tell you if that happened right he would be like Joe Somebody yeah, they replaced me. It would say they replaced me. They're sending somebody who the fuck is gonna do his voice There's only four people alive. They could do a good Alex Jones impression are you are you aware of the Elon Musk Adrian Dittman controversy that he I I saw something. They said he was a fake person. He made a fake. I think they call them sock puppet accounts. Okay. And it's generally frowned upon to have a fake account. Like, it seems like it would be a fun way to fuck around online. I don't have one, but it seems like it would be a fun way to fuck around online. It takes a lot of time, it seems like.

26:26Yeah, but you could have a fake account where if you're a public person, you know, like Elon Musk, and you want to say some wild shit? but you don't want to take responsibility for it. You just want to shitpost like everybody else, like an anonymous person. Oh, that's true. He can't do that, really. Yeah, I would say that would be a smart thing to do. Was it really him? Did they find out? Is that unethical? When one person can call themselves, you know, cat turd, you know, that's a legit name for a dude. I don't know anything about that cat. But that guy could just talk about anything he wants to talk about. But if Elon Musk does it, well, he has the responsibility of his public image. But maybe he doesn't want that. Right like if you it's I don't have a problem with either one of them Yes, I know you just shed your skin you just want to take a layer off and you want to relax at the house You want to kick your feet up and yell something down the hallway You shouldn't yell right and that's what he wants to do. I think you should be allowed to do that Yes, this is one of the problems with making the internet, you know like taking away the anonymity, but here's my my question Because of that right so if people can just have fake accounts and people should be able to which I think they definitely should be

27:31able to do. Because of that, though, then you have to wonder when you see arguments, how many of these arguments are real people and they're real opinions? And how many of these arguments are this giant block of accounts that's been purchased by a large organization that is hiring people or using AI to have arguments with people and incite things online? It's not 0% people. Now, I'm saying like if you have a personal belief in something like, no, they're not biased because I think that way. I'm not saying that you don't believe what you believe. And I'm not even saying that you're wrong. I'm saying that if there's any hot button cultural topic, you can fucking guarantee that some of the people talking about it aren't real. Either they're not real in that these are not the real opinions. They're being told to say these things, or they might not even be a real human. They might be an algorithm, or they're a bunch of people that have been hired. Whenever there's hot-button cultural issues or voting issues or political issues, a lot of those people arguing are not real. And there's a real question as to what the number are, like how much of this is like real interaction between people, and how much of this is all of this meddling? that's being done like they're changing the way people think about things and forcing the and arguing with these things all day very persuasively on behalf of some sort of special interest group yeah I think that sounds very plausible especially these days there's like there's not as much you know it used to be that a lot of media was controlled by a few channels and networks right I mean that's safe to say would you agree with that it was all controlled by a few

29:22channels right it was all i mean you all you had when we were kids you had i remember when cable came out it was crazy really yeah what was before that you had abc nbc cbs that's it no yes that's it and then three chances for fox fox was crazy married with children the simpsons fox was nuts Fox was this wild network. So that was the fourth network. Mary with Children was so good, dude. So good. So you have this fourth network, and then cable comes along, and then satellite, and now streaming, and the internet. It's like, what? I don't even think we're aware of how much more content we absorb than people that lived when I was 21. Oh, yeah. Playoffs. We're talking about playoffs? You bet we are. Get in on the action with DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL. Scoring touchdowns is key to winning the playoffs, and you can score big by betting on them at DraftKings, the number one place to bet touchdowns. Ready to place your bet? Try betting on something simple, like a player to score six.

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31:55And that they're hiring different groups to be Twitter bots or Twitter personalities or whatever. Yeah. Make TikTok accounts. Do TikToks about issues. One people look people have said flat out that they were offered money and then they got paid money to Make things for political people Like make people make people think that they were really excited about voting for someone they would pay them for pro Content right so pro whatever that person is So there's a whole business in this where they reach out to popular influencers and they say hey I want you to endorse this person. Would you do that for X amount of money? What didn't happen with like Megan Thee Stallion or somebody didn't they weren't they Hired recently or some of it and I'm sure the Republican Party did it too I think that was a Democratic one that they had where they hire performers to come and perform Yeah, this was the this was the big controversy. We tried to get to the bottom of it. It's hard to know so the real the accusation was that there was a few artists Lizzo was one of them Eminem was another one Beyonce was the big one and that they were paid

33:11an exorbitant amount of money to go and endorse Kamala Harris at these rallies I don't know if it's true it seems like there might be something to it, they spent so much money dude, it's so Crazy that the economy is like one of the biggest problems that we think of today Like you think of like what do you mean the economy the economy like the if okay The US economy the people with people that want to vote on things. What do they want? They want the economy to be healthier. They want us to have less national debt say one. Yeah, they want less inflation They want safety on low crime if that is the amount of fucking money they went through like you you you spent 1.5 billion dollars and you paid celebrities to it if that's true you paid celebrities you're like how am i supposed to trust you yeah with spending money you imagine if like if you were gonna marry a gal and you just gave her access to your credit card you're like look baby yeah you know you and me uh we're in it now so uh here you go I want you to be happy and she just goes fucking ham yes she says hey I'm only doing the amulets up until we get married yeah because once then then I'm I'm all about a sensible budget I'm all about fiscally being responsible

34:38you couldn't believe that you wouldn't believe it not at all you'd be like wait a minute you've been going crazy with these fucking handbags and jewels and shit he'd be like I'm not marrying you then because yeah we have too much shit I can't even see you in the apartment now. Also, I can't trust you with the credit cards. You're a fucking maniac. Dude, I had this roommate for a while, this dude, and he would get all high out in the living room, and he would get these empty boxes, cardboard boxes, and he had a couple cats, and he'd get out there, and he would have them do tricks and stuff up the box. He'd stack them really high in the living room. It's like a 20-foot ceiling, and he'd get stoned, and he'd get upset if I didn't come out and watch. How fucking weird is that? Meanwhile, that guy can vote. Yeah, yeah. That's the kind of guys that go, Walt Megan Thee Stallion? Is that who she's voting for? Well, fucking sign me up. He would get pissed if I didn't come out and watch, dude. That's what's crazy. They spend money to make sure that people think

35:41that famous people will vote for him. I don't think anybody... Dude, I don't even believe that there's famous... Famous this... It doesn't even seem like a real thing anymore. It's like the other, like I was just texting with Nikki Glaser did the, whatever it's called. Golden Globes? Golden Globes, right? That's what it was, right? Yeah, she hosted the Golden Globes. Sorry, she killed it. She did a great job, right? She did a great job, and she was like just confident and fun and just, it was awesome. She did a great job. So I was just texting her and saying, hey, congrats, that was awesome. And I said, were you nervous at all? You know, there's a lot of famous people. And then she's like, no. And I was like, and then I was thinking, it doesn't even seem like people are that famous. Kind of gotten different over the years. Does it seem like that at all?

36:26I think some of the most popular people aren't. It used to just be like they were movie stars, you know. But now it seems like it's just changed. Like you could have just as much infatuation for somebody that you saw that made an entertaining video on Instagram as you could for Tom Cruise, you know. You know what I'm saying? Am I making any sense? Yeah. Well, I think one of the worst things that's happened to Actors is they talk outside of acting. It's almost the worst thing you could do Because then everybody change it changes your opinion of who they are. Yeah, you don't like them as much anymore You know well in Hollywood all was always one way remember four years ago You couldn't even say the word Trump or Republican and you would be fucking ostracized. I mean it was like or eight years ago I'm sure it's probably still like that now in Hollywood We're just not experiencing because you're living in Nashville and I'm living here in Texas. But if you're in certain circles in Los Angeles, they still feel the same way. Yeah. You know, it's it's just I wonder how much of the division in this country is caused by what we're talking about, by this thing that's legal. And again, I think it should be legal. I don't think you should have to tell your fucking name if you want to talk shit about something that's going on that affects your life or that affects your job or that affects your kid's school. You shouldn't be subject to fucking prosecution because you said something about the school board because you just felt like being an anonymous person saying they're a bunch of fat slobs and retards. And you wanted to say that, but you couldn't say that because then you would get in trouble with your kids, get in trouble and this and that.

38:03Well, that's what's happening in England right now, isn't it? In Britain. It 100% is. It 100% is. And that's really happening. Yes, it's really happening. You can't give people that much fucking control. You can't give people that much control over what offends them or what offends people, what you could say, what you can't say. Can you imagine if they would come at the end of every episode, they'd be waiting outside of your... Yeah. Here's the thing, man. This is a new thing. This was in England 10 years ago. All right? This is a new thing. And it's a scary thing. It's a really scary thing. They arrested thousands of people for social media posts. Thousands.

38:41That's crazy. Were they threatening people? Well, this is what they're doing, man. First of all— No, no, were the people—were the posts threatening? No, no, no, no, no, no. They don't have to be. They don't have to be threatening. What? Yeah, they could be misgendering. There's a lot of things that you could get in trouble for. Why be alive if you can't even think or say what you want? People could deem it's racist if it's anti-migrant. You know, they have a migrant crisis over there in Europe. people can deem it you know anti-migrant and Islamophobic and you can there's a bunch of you know them that are threats people threaten people online which totally makes sense you shouldn't be allowed to threaten people online but when you get past that if you have an opinion about something about something that's affecting the country that you live in I think you should be able to express yourself and I don't necessarily think that people should know that It's you. I don't think you should have to carry that around.

39:35You should be able to express yourself and not have to be famous. I don't think there's a problem with that. You mean to not have to have it be known. So you're saying that Elon should be able to also have a separate voice if he wants to or anyone should. But the problem is if you do that, then you're going to have corporations that are doing what we're suspecting that they're doing. And what this one former FBI analyst – we pulled up this article a thousand times, Jamie, but pulled it up one more time. because it's just so crazy, you can't believe it's real. This guy was analyzing the amount of Twitter people that are bots. And this was a contentious issue, contentious aspect of the purchase when Elon bought Twitter. So when Elon bought Twitter, they were saying there's only 5% bots. I remember that. We sampled 100 people, 5% of them were bots. And he's like, that's not enough. You have hundreds of millions of people that are signed up for this. How many of these people are fake? and they really didn't want to tell. They didn't. They just like, not a lot. Don't worry. It's like, you know.

40:35Yeah. How many bots were programmed to lie if they were asked if they're a bot? It's like a guy asking a girl, how many guys have you slept with? A couple. Nothing. Four. Nothing. Don't worry about it. I'm a former CIA cyber operations officer who studies bot traffic. Here's why it's plausible that more than 80% of Twitter's accounts are actually fake and Twitter is not alone. more than 80 percent yeah see i don't think we realize that because we're on there for real we're real people on there but you're real people where fake people are constantly arguing right in front of your face like the world is ending it's not necessarily all real people there definitely are real people arguing on twitter don't get me wrong and i think even the fake people arguing is very addictive and i think you want to get involved too because you're like you're seeing this guy dunk on that guy i want to fucking dunk on somebody and then people are spending all their time in this job that they hate when no one's looking the boss isn't around you know typing up some real witty nasty shit on twitter and i think there's you want to be able to do that anonymously but if you do have that and you don't know who's doing what yeah you do get to this point where someone can fucking manipulate it but if you do know then the problem is the government

41:58has already shown how fucking shady they are when someone comes out and says something that goes against what they agree with or what they're trying to push or what agenda they have or what's best for them financially so they'll fucking throw the kitchen sink at you we've seen them do that You can't have those kind of people in power where they can know exactly who's saying what. You still have to have the ability to have whistleblowers. So you have this conundrum. On one side, you're going to have this completely manipulated environment that's done by corporations and fake people and people that are paid by parties just to push the party line and to go out there and debate it vigorously and argue it. They're paid to do it. Yeah. And all you have is your wits. All you have is your ability to try to form your own opinions of things regardless of like where you feel like you're pulled because of whatever ideology you, you know, you've publicly proclaimed to be. I'm a liberal person. This is how I feel. I'm pro this. I'm pro that. And then they'll start fighting about what that means. What's scary when that happens, because then you also have locked yourself into a space where you might not change because you're afraid of what your public persona is. Exactly. And that's got to be. Well, that's how you get to Dick Cheney endorses Kamala Harris. And the liberals are like, yeah, boom.

43:19I saw this dude. He posted a atomic bomb gif. And it was like after that happened, like, it's over. Boom. You guys are just dorks who don't play sports. Do you realize what kind of mental gymnastics you have to go through where Dick Cheney, rest in peace, where Dick Cheney. He passed away. He just passed away. Where Dick Cheney endorsing your liberal progressive candidate that somehow or another that's a good thing. The guy was the architect of the fucking architect of the Iraq invasion. Weapons of mass destruction host. All that shit. He was a slumberger guy, right? He was a scary guy, man. He was the oil guy, right? Who couldn't put it. Halliburton. Yeah, Halliburton. He's from Halliburton. Fuck. Bro.

44:02Yeah, that was bizarre. I mean, that's the thing. Mental gymnastics. Everything's gotten so bizarre, dude. Not dead. He's not dead? No. Oh, it's a fake report? Yeah. Fake Dick Cheney death report came from RT Parody account. Those motherfuckers. Here we go, bro. But hey. You got me. But this is the thing. It's like, you can't tell what the fuck is true. Well, first of all, how is he still alive? You know? Yeah, let's go, dude. How many soccer players did we lose this year? midfield, massive heart attacks,

44:29just running down the street. People are dying. And somehow or another, Dick Cheney's still alive. And Dick Cheney's still out there twerking. With a different heart. Yeah. That's what they're doing now. He's got a fake heart. I'm sure he does. I'm sure he's on his sixth or seventh heart. A lot of these... You don't think politicians are getting fucking separate hearts and organs, dude? You don't think they're first in line when they fucking... Oh yeah, for sure. That's probably part of, like, if you're going to open up a hospital, this is what I want. The moment my shit goes south i i want i want a doctor ready with his hands scrubbed yeah oh i bet there's a sick rothschild out there somewhere and every month they're putting a new ticker into him dude i was reading a uh a story last night about this dude who was one of the i think he was a rockefeller uh who got eaten see if that's i believe he's one of the rock rock rothschilds or rockefellers god damn it one of them fancy people when you hear the name you're like oh Oh, that fancy family. One of those. So this dude went to New Guinea and got eaten by cannibals.

45:30Apparently he went there. I'd hate. Michael Rockefeller. So apparently he went there and they were fine with him the first time he went there. But he was trying to get something from them. And the something that he was trying to get from them was sacred. And apparently they were very pissed off at him. So he didn't know that they were pissed off at him. So when he went back, he thought they'd be friendly with him. Yeah. And they killed him and ate him. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. And then they hid it. They hid the story forever. So they went looking for this guy like, hey, my rich cousin is missing. Where is he? And they're like, I don't know. They just fucking burp. They just ate that dude. Somebody just coughs up one of those things that keeps your – what is that thing that goes on the end of your shirt, Joe?

46:18Your cuff? A cuff link. Oh, a cuff link. I just fucking – Yeah. Somebody just coughs up a cuff link. Hey, let me give a shout out to the person who's it was on their YouTube channel because I can't remember Most of the details of the story, but if you go to this dude's YouTube channel He lays it out. I'll try to find a hat that matched with y'all's curtain in here. It's perfect. You nailed it Thanks, I get it in here somewhere. I have a real problem with these goddamn YouTube videos. I'm watching too much I'm absorbing a lot. I'm learning things, but do you think like um Like you talked about Islamophobia in Britain. Did I talk about it? What do you mean? Or did you mention it a minute ago? Islamophobia? What does Islamophobia mean? We were talking about the migrant crisis. We weren't necessarily saying Islamophobia. I think there's a, you know, it's like the migrant crisis in the United States. It's not a crisis of one type of individual coming in.

47:24The idea is that you want to be able to vet everybody who comes in, no matter what, whether they're from Guatemala or they're from Syria. You want to find out who the fuck they are. You don't want to let in criminals and psychopaths. It's all that simple. And if you start blocking off people's ability to do that, I always have to wonder, what are you trying to do? If you're just trying to let everybody in and not check are you trying to create chaos? Is that what you want? Because that's what I would do if I was an evil person and I wanted to fuck up an entire civilization. I would just let criminals in. I would encourage criminals to go there. I would release them out of my jails and give them money to go north. Yeah. You can just walk across to America. We're going to pay you to do it. Well, I think you have a lot of people that have like that believe in some sort of a moral and ethical code. and they feel like they don't have a place to be sometimes, you know? Well, there's also some people that grow up and they just got fucked by the world. They just got brought to a real bad spot and they started off way worse than you and I. For sure. And that's the reality of if you want to keep a healthy society, you have to keep those fucking people out.

48:38Like the world is not fair. It's not fair. And if you want to protect the best aspects of the world, You got to keep them safe and then spread out spread out that safety from there It's not let in all the bad. It's spread out the safety It's like the the way to do it isn't to just let all the criminals in and then oh Well now we all live with crime like no, that's stupid The way to do it is to solve the crime problem in an area and then expand that area ever greater across the world That is totally doable. That's totally doable You're never going to stop all crime, but you can minimize it significantly with a concerted effort, which is not being done. They're not doing that. And there's a bunch of different things that they have to do. Instead of just hiring cops to fuck people up, they should train cops better. They should pay them more. They should make them more respected. They should make people appreciate cops instead of, like, think of them as the enemy. I agree. We always thought that cops were reliable, but then I guess some cultures have different experiences with cops. But these days, cops are so diverse that it's like you couldn't have a – like you'd almost have to be an alien or something to have a racial issue it feels like sometimes. Well, I think cops are just like all kinds of people. And the problem with all people is they're going to vary.

49:55There's going to be some people that can handle pressure and some people that can handle having power and being a boss. Oh, that's a good point. Like you've had good bosses. I've had great bosses. We're great guys. They made you happy to work with them. You knew they were the boss, but it was a cool situation. And then you got people that are cunts just because they're bosses. You got this guy that just won't stop talking down to you because he knows he can get away with you because you need the job. He can get away with shitting on you. You've all had that, too. And those that's that's the problem with being a cop. Like some people are just not good at having power over people and some people are great with it. And then there's the reality of the stress that they face every fucking day. You might get shot every day. You're pulling people over. What is the worst thing that's gonna happen to you in your day? Oh, did someone open their door on your car? Oh Oh, yeah, someone I saw a 10 year old get their face shot in yeah, you know, I saw a little girl get run over by a car. I saw Horrible murder scenes, you know, they they're they're going upon car accidents every day You're seeing so much awful shit you're dealing with and then every time you pull somebody over every cop has seen those videos of People pulling people over and just getting a little lit with bullets just Fall into the ground. There's so many of those videos getting your gun taken away from you getting shot and killed

51:14Yeah, we've all seen those videos. Oh, yeah I can Walmart everywhere a lot of that shit. It's like there's just so much violence now It's just one where this guy was beating up this female cop and his daughter was telling him to stop. The daughter was trying to get him to stop beating this cop to death. You're like, oh, my God. So, like, that job is not a normal fucking job. And when people don't have respect for it and don't appreciate it, it's a sign of the sickness of society. It's the illness of society that we don't appreciate law and order. and we think of it as something that somehow or another that it's uniquely oppressive and that with without it being there you'd have less problems so there was that that was all that defund the police thing yeah which is just we should have learned from that and i hope a lot of people did like that's a terrible idea the problem is not cops the problem is cops are human and they have to stay human otherwise you're going to get fucking RoboCop oh yeah so what are we going to do RoboCop could easily get hijacked too that's another issue it's like a lot of like if there were cyber attacks like um where they wanted every electric vehicle or something to just go

52:34drive off a cliff they could just control 100% if they wanted every oven to just heat to 250 degrees and just burn down every house sure like if something got hacked you know it would be very spooky. So yeah, if cops got hacked, bro, that would be crazy. And then also they could just say they hacked. Like you could have a dirty entity hack the cops and use them for whatever they want. And then who do you even sue with that? What are you going to even, you know, people are going to put a robot on the stand? Also, you would have to know what kind of like hacking is even possible and whether or not it can be detected. Because if they're doing it wirelessly, like can they do it wirelessly? Like Jamie, you would probably know this can you hack something wirelessly from an anonymous account and like get into a system and no one knows who did it or is everything ultimately traceable if they could find the

53:26source of the invasion i think when you get to the high level stuff they're going the hacker like the point of doing the attack goes through so many levels to try to hide where they're going from yeah so they can hide someone and also how many of those guys that are like operating at that level even exist yeah how many of those like super high level hackers are out there and everybody else is just kind of at the mercy like if you like try understanding that if you don't do that it's impossible so how is a judge going to understand it how's who's going to understand it yeah how are the cops going to understand it right it's kind of yeah it's got to be weird if You know that much stuff you're kind of in a world of your own. Oh, yeah If you're like a super Bitcoin creator type dude, you're in a world of your own you're you're existing in the most Sophisticated layers of the technological power of The likes the world's never seen before never seen anything like it and you're the people that are at the head of the code You're the people that are making AI Yeah, you're like crypto for Columbus or whatever you're you're on the edge bro that's great dude if people that's why i've said this for years people with autism are the they're the link between regular people and machines it's that's where we're headed it's all no in seven two generations everyone will have autism you won't be able to find anybody that doesn't have it or that doesn't like kind of freak out if like somebody's like whistling or whatever it's almost like whatever the reason why more people have autism today i'm sure there's a bunch of people that think it's vaccines there's a bunch of people that think it's environmental issues there's a bunch of people think it's chick-fil-a some people probably could be could be i'll take it though dude it's so fucking good there's no way you wouldn't take

55:20some chick-fil-a-tism dude if they had it bro if you're like every now and then just a weird guy runs out of the back room with a couple pickles on his back dude i'd fucking be like i love this guy no matter what he has you know i totally forgot what i was gonna say sorry dude it was it had something to do with autism that oh what we're talking about like oh i think that this is the end of that realm so just imagine all right okay so there's whatever the reason why there's more cases of autism most people i think will agree there are more cases of autism now than ever before. But what meaningful changes have we done, if any, to try to limit that or to try to mitigate that or pull that back? I'm not sure. And what meaningful, like what progress has been made where you're saying like, oh, now we have 20% less autistic kids. So if that's not the case, and yet we're in the greatest technological time that we've ever been aware of, and people have more access to information now than ever before why why is it moving in that direction and maybe that is a natural thing maybe all this transgender shit where everybody's like oh my god like i am so sick of hearing there's boys and there's girls and that's it maybe when you find out about plastics and the things that's happening to the human body because it's fucking with our endocrine system and it's it's shrinking people's genitals and shrinking people's taints and lowering testosterone levels calling more more miscarriages causing more miscarriages if you were watching this play out if you were not connected to us yeah and if you were like from another planet and you're like what is this thing doing oh so this is a very complicated animal and this animal gets involved in various plastics and metals and the it has a symbiotic relationship with plastics and metals where the plastics and metals, it gives them cars and handbags and television sets, but it also robs them of their primal essence and slowly turns them into these genderless,

57:33weird creatures that can only survive by replicating through their DNA. Dude, well said, bro. Because if you were looking at it from somewhere else and you were looking at, well, what are we addicted to? We're addicted to electronics and we're addicted to plastic. Yeah. We use plastic for everything and we're willing to sacrifice something for it I was reading this whole thing about petroleum in the health care industry and like health and wellness and like oils and shit Like how much petroleum is used and all this it's everywhere. It's just everywhere. It's bizarrely Everywhere petroleum is petroleum is so you've got oil and you've got plastics and you've got all of these weird funky funky phthalates and chemicals and pesticides and herbicides. And we're all aware of it. We're like, this is really a problem. This is really a problem. One fucking blast in the air. It's all of your food. Like, this could be a problem. Everyone's on fucking Monsanto. Yeah, nobody can sleep anymore. Glyphosate is everywhere.

58:31And everyone's like, well, we'll certainly get to the bottom of that once we make it safer for queer kids. And then slowly we're going to get to a point of no return where our genetics are fucked by our environmental pollutants, which have only existed over the last couple hundred years. So our genetics get fucked by these environmental pollutants and like giant changes in human testosterone levels just from the 1970s. Giant changes. Oh, yeah, dude. So I think if you're on that path and you're clearly on that path, we are as a human race, we're clearly on that path. Fast. And we're also at the same time on the path of artificial intelligence. It's like, how much time do we really have? How much time do we really have here? What if this, though? What if a trans kid? How many trans people are there? They're all trans now. Everybody. Right. The whole country is trans. I think they've backed off a lot of it. A lot of people have decided that they really didn't want to do it anymore. Yeah. There's quite a few, and people get mad at them.

59:36Which is really wild when they when they um people get mad at them for changing their mind Have you interviewed anybody that has gone down the surgery path and didn't did and didn't want to have the surgery? Have you ever talked to somebody like that? No, just curious what that whole what that world is It's everybody's got their own weird thing with that because it's a weird thing Like you're you don't like your sexual organs you're born with you identify with another gender or at least you think you do right least like you identify with what they like more than what the boys like, you're probably just gay. And that's one of the things they've studied is when they leave transgender or supposedly transgender youths and they don't do anything, they eventually become gay men. Oh, I see. It's a big, big percentage of them. Yeah. Does that mean they're all like that? And some people don't genuinely have true gender dysphoria? No. That's always been a thing too. And being gay used to seem like if you were just gay, that was everything. It was like – but I guess – It was everything? It was like gay didn't – it was like, oh, if you were trans or any – now it's LGBTQI, right? Oh, there's also – yeah, there's intersex.

60:49Plus. Two. Plus. Right. What is plus? Which one is plus? I don't know. I know two is two-spirit, which is my favorite. Really? I know I'm going to need – Two-spirit. They took the kooky two-spirit people in. The Native Americans? No. Two Spirit is like a very specific, like, let's Google it. Two Spirit is like, you think you're like Fox Ken or some shit like that. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, this is where I found out that – I might be fucking up what Two Spirit is. But this is where I found out about this stuff because a buddy of mine who lives in Utah, his wife, worked at a public school. And he told me that she told him that they were having a meeting because one of the parents had proposed putting a litter box in the bathroom because their kid thinks it's a cat. Oh, that's crazy. And he told me that I talked about it on podcast and people started saying that that was transphobic And this is a transphobic lie and I was like whoa whoa whoa

61:51So it wasn't a real story you mean do but well first of all what does that have to do with transgender? What does it have to do with that? You're talking about someone who thinks they're a cat. How is that transphobic? Yeah, and then I realized like the oh There's a lot of things connected in this one group that are not the same thing Like they're just trying to lump in every idea like say if you only have like You know the electoral college get like a couple points in this state But if you win like ten fucking states you got a big coalition you can get in the White House You know so it's like if you can't just transgender people on their own Too many people like no you can't go into the women's room get out of here, but then you add them to the gays Oh, I see Adam to the queers which is like what does that mean? You know and then if you're more of a buffet of what are you in? Okay, two-spirit people may be straight gay bisexual asexual or queer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly They're the people that want to pretend the most I'm everything. I'm a boy. I don't want to play the shell game You're a fucking narcissist probably you're probably a loon or maybe you really have this two-spirit thing I don't know. But there's a variety of things that are true at the same time. You know, you're going to have people that are kooky. And you're also going to have people that unfortunately really do wish they were born a girl. Yeah. Both those things are real. But the thing about us as a species, if you're looking at these drops that are all clearly established markers in terms of testosterone levels, miscarriages, men who are incapable of having children, low sperm counts, smaller testicles and penises, like we're moving in a direction of looking like those fucking aliens. Well, that's what I've said this for years. If you look at an alien, their head is big because that's the only thing that's going still.

63:42And their body is this useless sort of fucking Christmas ornament. Spindly, genderless thing. Yeah. Genderless, like no tits. That's stuck under a weighted blanket. You want to stop an alien, throw one weighted blanket on that bad boy. I bet they don't interact with things. Well, of course they don't because everything happens in their head. It's all built in at that point. Why do you even need if you can just blink and come or whatever? You just, you know, you fucking blink again and you have a mortgage and then you fucking cough and your fucking parents are deceased. It's just like there's no non non aware language. You speak every language. You know, every fact about everything on earth at any given moment. It's all in your head. There's no questions. There's no dick. You have no mouth. You can't even enjoy food. You have no mouth. Yeah, dude.

64:34Well, if I got a ticket, you got a mouth, dude. Let's party. Food's second. Let's party. I'm catching a BJ. I don't know. I'm a fucking alien. Imagine getting a head from an alien. Imagine you wake up in the middle of the night, like you're having a crazy sex dream. And you're like, oh, my God. Like, you ever have a dream where you're having sex? Yeah. You think in the dream you're actually having sex. It feels real. Guys come in their pants. Oh, I had a dream. I was on an airplane one time. Dude, I was flying to Philadelphia, right? And I had a dream that I was doing oral sex, right? Yeah. And I was just kind of like that in the air.

65:12And this old dude fucking shook me. He's like, get it together. Whoa. I was on the plane. He told you to get it together. Well, yeah, I was eating air pussy. What are you talking about? I think at that point, it's okay if somebody shakes you. Imagine if you open your eyes and an alien was blowing you. And you just feel trapped. You're paralyzed. The alien is just sucking your dick, looking you in the eyes. Big insect eyes. Could you imagine? No, dude. Fuck Stephen King. That's a real horror movie. Could you imagine you're paralyzed and an alien is sucking your dick? What sound does it make? I bet it makes it sound like a... Slurpee.

65:51They over-exaggerate. They give you a caricaturized version of our boy films. We know they like it when you make a lot of noise. They're going to be gagging. but they're not even moving it's just a feeling and making the noise or it also has that light you know like whenever you make a xerox copy of something in that fucking light i wouldn't want that dude what was i seeing the other day they're having uh gay uh animals now is that they were having gay animals what are you saying if you pull that up jimmy if you see anything of it or that animals request is that well i'm just saying if you see um bro animals fuck couches they fuck your leg okay you have a dog well some dogs will grab a hold of your leg they know your leg isn't a female dog they don't care they grab a hold of your leg does that mean he's gay no it means he's crazy horny but no i was seeing something where they were trying to have a hot it's like a upscale meat or beef that comes from a gay why this one hold on this why Why are scientists ignoring all the gay animals? Go down to that. It's a great question. There's a study. This is like that James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose, Peter Boghossian thing. What does it say? Can I read the headline? Why are scientists ignoring all the gay animals?

67:17Yeah. Imagine you're a scientist and you're trying to figure out how old the universe is. And that's the complaint you read first thing in the morning. and you're like, hey, hey, hey, hey, there's other shit to worry about. Hey, you're telling me this otter ain't a homosexual? I'm trying to figure out how old the fucking universe is. That's why. There's not a lot of federal funding for gay animals. Oh, there is now. Bro, you have to get funding for this stuff. I'm sure we spent a bill on it, dude. Yo, that was another thing that was crazy about the Harris campaign was when you found out that they can pay activist groups. They give donations to activist groups, like large sums of money. To activist groups? Like what? So that these people will endorse them. Oh, I see. There's an accusation that she gave, what's that dude's name who's on MSNBC? The old dude? Don Leonard?

68:16No, no, no, no, no. Don Leonard, you combine two names. Don Lemon and Sugar Ray Leonard. Don Lemon. That's what he did. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Hey, bro. No, Al Sharpton. Don's got a little more sugar than Ray Leonard, I think. To be honest. No judgment, dude. But I'll tell you this. That's maple syrup. Gay animal meat is going to be the new thing. You're telling me you're at a restaurant, right? Right. It'd be a gay lamb. And they're like, hey, okay. You can have this lamb, $70, this shank. Or you could have this sweet little lamb shank over here for $90.

68:54The best of both worlds. So it's got the firmness of male. What else has that sweet tenderness of female? Yeah, it's also been basted from the inside. I think there's... You tell me you're not going to get a gay steak, dude, for an extra $20. You're not going to try it? Especially if you're LBGT friendly. You want to support the gay steak market. You have to. Yeah. That's the next thing, though. What if they start cheating, though, and encouraging straight cows to fuck each other? Just because they want that... Because they realize there's more money in gay stakes. You're like, I'll take a stake. You're like, is it gay? You fucking better be, buddy. In the attention market that is social media, there has to be a few people out there that are pretending to be gay that aren't. Like, here's a good example. Oh, for sure.

69:39Here's a good example. There were a bunch of girls, and people got mad at them because they're hot female OnlyFans girls, and they started putting fake dicks in their pants. And pretending that they're trans because I was getting them a lot more views. So apparently the way to get a lot of views is to be a really hot trans person. Like really hot trans people are in right now. Like really hot like a girl, like a super hot girl with a hog on you. With a smoker. Big old hog on you. So people got mad and started saying that my identity is not your costume. like the actual like cultural appropriation kind of yeah but like hey right aren't you doing that are you doing that you have a dick and you're saying you're a girl and then these girls who don't have a dick are putting a dick on and you're saying you can't do that oh so they're all this is crazy yeah it's like we're caught in a blender dude first of all it's very short-sighted because you should be pro-trans even if it's fake trans right if that would make more people into trans people, that'd be better for everybody. Right. No matter what. Now are some people, it's a famine thinking. Are there really some people, are people born with wiener and breast? Is that a real thing? I have not heard of that, but I know that some guys do have problems with their breasts. Like there's a thing when guys take steroids, they develop something called gynomastica and gynomastica is an enlargement of the breast tissue. I know guys who have had to get their nipples cut open and they have to get that removed and then sewn back together again.

71:20It's like a serious operation. But that's breast tissue because they take so much testosterone that their body starts producing extra estrogen, and then they get titties as a side effect. I hope I'm not fucking that up. That's what I've been told. I'm pretty sure that's how it goes, but the point is that's the only time I've ever heard of with a dick and tits. But some people are born with both genitals, right? Yes. That's a little different, right? That's pretty rare. That's called a hermaphrodite. I think they call them intersex now. People are always trying to come up with new names. Oh, yeah. My buddy had these growing up. Hot tits. Normal breast tissue. Hormone imbalance. Causes swelling.

72:00First of all. Causes some sweet titties. Yeah. First batch I ever saw around my buddy. Shout out to him, dude. I'll tell you what. If I could just crop out that right tit, I could rub one off to that right tit. I used to look at my buddy like that. Go back to that tit, please. you go back to his uh it's his left so his left it's like no no i don't want to see those the technical the actual one so if you just cropped in his left his left that one yeah just crop in that remove all side of hair look at that look at that little milk pork he's got on it that's like a hot athletic girl's boob oh damn brother that's a fucking little nerve brain we don't really need to don't don't do that it's a lot dude but i'm telling you this you're telling me this if you don't you make a steak out of that man you're not gonna pay an extra 30 bucks and then the problem would be they would start only fans models with the bulge oh see oh that's it so so they're doing it a lot of people but what if do you think though this is what i wonder sometimes do you think that science has us headed so we were all that everyone is going to be trans at once. Like it's all merging? Yeah, I think we're going to be genderless, really. Go to that article again. I want to

73:13see what they were saying. What were they saying? It said it was only two of them. I don't know how. It could have spread since September. This is a gang of them. They might have started a trend. They're all over the place. OnlyFans models. Can I just read that? OnlyFans models are targeted by online LGBTQ mob after posing in underwear with fake bulges. That's so crazy. That's so crazy. That's so hypocritical. I wonder, dude, I heard Jelly Roll's got that thing on him. I heard he's got it real. I bet it does. Look at that. Just two boys being silly alongside a trans flag. How can you get mad? How can you get mad? Got that donkey on him. You can't get mad because that violates – like you're saying that your standards are more important than them doing this thing to get attention. That your standards of what's real is not real. Like no, no, no, no, no. Right. It doesn't work that way.

74:11Like because the only way – because then it's only your standards because if you want that kind of a strict control of the way people view things, you're going to allow people to turn that on you. And there's going to be way more people that have a hard time with you saying that you're a woman when you have a dick than there's going to be for a bunch of girls who just want to take pictures where they have fake bulges. Yeah. That doesn't make – you're just being a control freak. Like you can't have no fake trans people but only real trans people but don't let anybody be in control of who decides what's real and what's not real. Right. It's almost the same with like a lot of cultural appropriation stuff. But at a certain point, it just gets ridiculous. It's like, you know. Did you see that one dude who faked it for like six months? Faked being black? No, you can't do that anymore. I'm not doing it. No, he faked being a woman. You know that dude? He was on like one of those reality shows. And he had all the tattoos. He was like a good looking guy, which is why it was crazy. And he said he was transitioning. And he was just a troll. He did it for like six months.

75:15He was just meeting chicks? No, just like making videos online where people get mad at him. Oh, no, I didn't see that. But he kept it up forever that dude Explaining Josh Cedar's trans hoax alleged fake death and why Monica Beverly Hills is involved I don't know who Monica Beverly Hills is me neither So this guy it was very smart He said he's been undergoing a crash out of most epic Out of the most epic proportions and somehow RuPaul's Dragways doll Monica Beverly Hills is involved Is this like a far left wing blog because the way they're writing this is like Okay, well that makes sense First of all it's called them.us. Yeah, I was like what is the I don't understand what the Tone of this article is so go back to it now So he's pretending to be trans Joe yes, okay for a long time Okay, here goes scroll up a little bit. Oh here goes the former reality TV star has gone viral on social media for the worst reasons. That's definitely not the worst reason. Allegedly faking his own death and claiming it was a hack, as well as pretending to be trans and posting photos of himself in feminine clothes is an experimental mockery of trans people that he claims is exposing the woke mind virus. But that's not the worst reasons.

76:38The worst reasons is like you killed a bunch of folks. The worst reasons, you lit a school on fire. That's the worst reasons. That's not the worst reasons for going viral because why did he pretend to be trans? He came out as a trans woman. He gave interviews with public like page six, but are there people that are Came out of the trans so this guy just pretended to be trans for a long time a long time. He was making a mockery of them He said five months, so he did it for five months. So I do it in October five months later He said that he was actually it was all a social experiment on an episode of the conservative podcast prime time with Alex Stein cider said the purpose was to expose how gullible and delusional the left is What I did is I fake being a faker he said I pretended to be a pretender But yeah, well that's right the thing is like people don't want to admit that he's correct because it makes you insensitive but what he's saying is like Logical right it's logical and so what if people are actually trained or some people actually trans You'd have to ask them okay therein lies the problem. I think there are people that are not though There's people that are perverts for sure and pretend to be trans so they can go to women's rooms for sure Oh, yeah, yeah for sure I'm not accusing all of them I'm just saying it's I've seen it there's you're going to have that if you have this thing this loophole This new thing when I was a kid if a guy with a beard and a dress tried to go into the women's room Men would go in there and beat the fuck out of them. Yeah, they wouldn't let that happen It's that they would say oh that guy's a pervert and if a woman went into the men's room

78:11We tell her to bring a couple of her friends You know what I'm saying but still in a respect of a way Or you would guard the door while they were urinating that was another thing if a woman said I really need to urinate in here You know yeah, well no one would care the added thing is he opposed a parent maybe had a relationship with this Monica Beverly Hills person. Oh is Monica Beverly Hills a gay guy? It's a contestant from Drag Race Oh This person tried to out them, I guess, and he denied it, and then I guess there might be evidence of it. Oh. So they're saying that he might have done this all in retaliation for this. See, that's what happens a lot of times is people will— I just read that. Well, listen, for whatever, maybe the guy's gay and he pretended to be a woman. He's not a woman, all right? So maybe he had a gay relationship with a drag queen, or maybe it's not even a gay relationship if it's a drag queen. I don't remember anymore. I don't know what the new regulations are. All I'm telling you is – I don't know what the new regulations are. All I'm saying is if you want to be a person who is open-minded and who's compassionate and who wants to let people live and let live, you can't get mad at these girls putting rubber dicks in their pants. You can't.

79:23It's too stupid. Well, it's like somebody dressing up like for someone for Halloween, I feel like, right? A little bit. But you could say that's what they're doing, though. I see what you're saying. You know? So you're saying you're making your own Halloween. Yeah. You can't be upset if we make a Halloween. You can say you're a girl. You can say you're a girl. And you can be a guy with a beard and long nails and say you're a girl. But you can't make me go along with it. I see what you're saying. I'm not saying that you can't say you're a girl. I'm not saying that you can't call yourself a new name. But if we're in this weird, aggressive situation and you want me to say you're a girl so that you can go do girl things in the girl's room, you can't make me agree to that. That's where it gets crazy. Like if you're not infringing on anybody else's space, there's a reason girls don't want to be in a fucking bathroom with dudes. Yeah. And if it's like trans men in the men's room, men don't give a fuck because women aren't going in there to rape men.

80:17Right. Right. So that's the difference. They're women that think they're men. No one cares. If a woman who thinks she's a man wants to enter into men's sports, no one's going to stop her. Right. Because sometimes it's all one direction, isn't it? Isn't it always men going to women's stuff? Well, for sports, for sure. Look, there have been women that have turned trans and competed against boys. It definitely has happened. But the striking dominance that you see where trans men or trans women, biological men who identify as women, compete against regular biological women in sports. Yeah. It's crazy. You get people with like... I would just want to... It's just it's a delusion. It's just a delusion. You shouldn't let in if you want to have all trans league do that That's what we should do. I feel like it seems like there should be that so that then it's a cheat code You can't just say you're a girl. You're not a girl. Let's do a DNA test. Let's do a chromosome test Oh look xy you're a guy will DNA tell you the truth every single time Will that answer always be the fucking chromosomes will okay? So there's no look there's gonna be a variable thing There's going to be a thing even with that, right? So if you have, like, male and female, all male and all female are not created equal. There's a giant curve between, like, the most manly man and the most womanly man.

81:42Oh, yeah. And then the most manly woman and the most womanly woman. Like, there's this giant fucking curve that all it means to be a human being. I can't tell you where you are in that curve. Yeah. I don't know what you are you, man. You'd be you. I'll be me. I'm doing fine. I want you to be happy. But you can't pretend you're in that other group. You can't, especially if you are the male pretending you're a female and you want to enter into like women's rooms. You can't do that because there's too much of a potential for that to be abused by creeps. So what's the solution? I don't know what the solution is. I don't know. You know, individual bathrooms. What about that family restroom that always has, dude, I'll tell you this. The worst thing is. Oh, that one with the diaper table? Yeah.

82:22That one special bathroom, big bathroom. Diaper table. We're going to change diapers. It's got that Australian diaper table in it or whatever. You're like, what is this for? And you don't even have a diaper, but you do have a hog and a dress. Yeah. And you're like, I'm just going to use this one, just not freak anybody out. Like Jelly Roll, dude. He's got that hog on him, huh? Yeah, but he's clearly identifying as a male. Oh, yeah. No one's denying. But if he wasn't, and then he had that big old hog, keep him out of the women's room. I'm just saying he's got that mistletoe on him. I heard, you know? That's what I heard, dude. I heard he's got that. You know that thing that cops throw out to get the car to stop if it's going real fast? Those nails on the strip. I'm just saying, I heard he's got that rope on him, boy.

83:02Damn. So whatever, dude. Stay black, homie. That's what Joey Diaz always says. Stay black. That's the most important thing. Oh, my God. Have you ever seen the video where, speaking of Alex Jones, where Joey Diaz and Alex Jones, Alex Jones is trying to calm Joey Diaz down, and I'm next to him. I'm just crying, laughing. and Joey's telling some story about how he smuggled weed through the airport under his nutsack. They didn't catch him. And they're like, what kind of fucking security do we have here? See if you can find it. Because I am literally crying, laughing. I can't breathe. I'm fucking crying. I haven't seen that. I'm trying to think of what I've seen. Joey's going off. And this is Alex Jones of the early 2000s.

83:48I saw they got that new tariff in New York City. Did you see that? nine bucks to drive into the city now that's so crazy during congestion time so during so crazy i think it's 5 a.m to 2 they're just trying to ruin that city man well i just wonder what will that like who does obviously it hits everything hits people that don't have money the hardest right you know we're talking about how once people have power over you once they have control of you they never want to let that go oh for sure the east coast is a great example of that and one of the best examples is the tolls. The tolls were supposed to be created to pay for the city, to build the roads, build the bridges. But they paid for it a hundred times over. Once it's already been paid, now you're just stealing money from people because you can. Yeah. So then they just fill their coffers up and fill their bureaucracy and fill their red tape to justify all this money coming in. It's all a scheme. This is Joey on the Alex Jones Show. 2010. Michael Jackson. I watched this. They're just better at covering up what they did.

84:50Did they kill Michael Jackson? I don't know. Look at the movie. He was dancing and singing, and next you know he's dying of oxygen. No, not right. A junkie's a junkie's a junkie's a junkie every day. He doesn't wake up singing dance, and then he has oxygen tanks at night. Something's not right there. And in my case, like old school, you're worth more dead than what you are alive. You understand me? And now they've got a new record coming out. He ain't in debt no more. He's doing a tour next year with the people from Vegas that jump up and down the blue band group, whatever the hell that is. I mean, he's worth more now than he's ever been. I think Paul McCartney killed Michael Jackson. That's what I think. If it was up to me, me knowing what I know, and smoke another joint, I'll break it down. I'll break it down because he bought the music from Paul McCartney and didn't want to get it back to him. And all of a sudden, they put Paul McCartney in the Super Bowl. They tried to build up the Beatles to get their thing going. And all of a sudden, Michael Jackson, that's right.

85:41I believe it. It goes a lot longer. The best is the end, though. He says, stay black. Just get to the very back. Every time you listen to your bullshit congressman or your bullshit governor or even a bullshit president or somebody who's running for president, and he's hitting you with that same four shit that they give you every four fucking years, and you still vote for the fucking Momo, and then you get mad. Think about me saying the word fuck. With that, I'm out of here. I gotta go smoke a cigarette. Oh, hey, hold on a minute. We gotta stay back here. He's making some very solid points. Don't do the, uh, don't do it. No, I know. Joey, you get it. I'm with you, but this is just to let the American public know that every four years they buy the same shit they've been buying every four years, and the same people with their Harvard articulation and how they don't curse and they're Christians and they have a family, and these are the same people that shove it up your fucking ass every year. The one thing that you get about me is I'll say fuck, but I will not fucking rob you.

86:31If I need something, I'll ask you like a man. I know, you're going to get it. Hey, hey, go fuck yourself, you cop. Hold on, hold on one second. Take a joke, take a shuttle. Joey Diaz, Facebook, Twitter, check yourself before you wreck yourself. Big dicks in your ass up there. Oh, yeah. Get out of here. We're in trouble. He comes back. I'm the unpowered. I'm throwing. All right, all right. Listen, stay black because that's the most important. Okay. Hey, Joe. Stay black, dude. Bro, we got to start getting more. When are you going to start to see people just identify as black then? You can't do that.

87:07They won't let you do that. Yeah, but that's what they said about everything. Yeah, but that one's been a hard line for a while. They used to be able to do blackface. Think about it. So many people did blackface in movies. Robert Downey Jr. did blackface in the early 2000s, right? Good point. Jimmy Kimmel did it. Look at that movie Soul Man. Remember? The guy pretended to be black to get a college education. Trudeau did it. Yeah, he did it. A lot of people did it. Lexter Holt, I don't even think. He looks. I think that's his real skin color. You do? Yeah, I think that is. Okay.

87:36That's a rumor. The point is, that is, it's going the other direction. It's not going the direction of like the Rachel Dolezal. I don't know. I think you're going to have a real surgence coming up. Well, there are people that have tried it. The problem is, now with 23andMe, it's real hard to pull off. Mike Perry. He's got like 2%. Hey, I ain't going to tell him he ain't. You know what I'm saying? That's for sure, dude. Mike Perry is a zebra if he wants to be Can you bring up people that are trying to be black and see by texturizing their skin there's new things, Joe Well, I definitely think that people are taking pills I've heard of that Yeah, darkening pills or whatever? Yeah, there's some kind of medication that you can take

88:27Maybe it's a peptide that darkens your skin It may be a peptide But I've heard of it. It might even have some weird like melanin name like Milan or something. Yeah, I Don't remember though, but I do remember seeing it on an internet article where you know There's like how far people going to like look different. Oh, yeah shit that people are doing dark buddy or whatever They're calling it dark buddy Buddy and you just like take a couple pills of it. Oh, you're thinking to Justin Trudeau doing blackface You know, he just retired retired. Yeah, that's crazy. Well, he had he's stepping down until they find, they're gonna have to find a replacement, and then he leaves. I liked him better when he was black. That was very brief, I think. But still, dude, he was a fucking vibe then. Bro, people have hammered on that guy so much. For rightly so, man. He doesn't seem like he has any strength inside of him of his own. And he almost seems like a character from a Charles Dickens novel.

89:27If you bring up his retirement speech from the other day. Well, it's fake. That's why father it's fake. It's all fake. He's like a fake progressive the whole thing's fake That's why he was an authoritarian and he kept cracking down on on people's rights and they all really saw it during that trucker Protest because that's when it was really in front of everybody's face where he couldn't ignore it. Here's this guy who is Trying to he's freezing bank accounts from the people that donated money to the truckers Yeah, I don't want to listen to this. Fuck this guy. But he very much has a character from a Charles Dickens novel, doesn't he? It's because it's performative. Look, he looks AI, though. Look at him. But if you go to see a movie about Charles Dickens, here's one thing. When you ever go to see an old-timey movie, everyone talks in a more elegant and sophisticated manner. Hello, father. Hello. Yeah, there's a difference to the way people talked in those Dickens- I've got rubella, Dad. Yeah. Tommy has rubella. You know why?

90:27Because it's fake. Right? Like that's how people used to make movies back then. Did people really talk like that back then? No. No, people talked the way they talk. Nuh-uh. It's just people were just not – well, they talked and they had different vernacular than they do now. But people, when you're performing something, performing something was new. You have to think about this. If you go back and watch movies, like one of the things that's great about the fact that we produce so much content is that what it's done, the entire bank of all the content that people created since the beginning of television being started to the rock and roll boom of the 1960s to the internet to all these things, you can see the way people communicate evolves and changes. And if you go back to the earliest representations of broadcast media in the country, everyone talks in a way that's not natural. James J. Braddock like that. Here we are. ABC News World Report. Hitler has moved into, you know, it's like there's a way that they talk back then. And then there's, if you go watch those movies, they talked fake in the movies. Like Marlon Brando was the first guy to not talk fake. And everybody's like, what is this guy doing?

91:42It's revolutionary. He seems like he's a real guy. Like no one even knew how to do that until Brando came along and did it. And so then movies became, and then you get a guy like a Daniel Day-Lewis. Yeah. You know, where does he come from? Well, he comes from this entire evolutionary tree of people figuring out what's the best way to pretend publicly. And the way that they would do it in the Charles Dickens movies was a primitive way. It's like when you're watching... Albert is sick, dad! Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer was on the other day. It was like Christmas Around the House. Oh, yeah. The old one, the claymation one? Beautiful day, yeah. When the snow is moving around? Rudolph. The snowman? Yeah. It's goofy as fuck. Santa looks goofy as fuck.

92:29It's terrible, the way people talk. Oh, this is Santa. It seems so fake, but that was the standard. It's like $6 million man was a good show, okay? It was a good show. Right. That was the standard. The standard was terrible. Like, we had a terrible standard for communication. Oh. That standard's changed over time. It's changed so the people that are still doing it that way it's Glaringly obvious right so what Justin Trudeau is doing he's doing like a Fucking strip club DJ voice. Yeah, he you know He's like Lexus to the main stage good evening Manitoba You don't know who that guy is you're not getting any of him. That is a mask. Yeah, not getting any of him Well, he went to that tragically hit concert. Is that the band tragically hit or whatever? Huh? Technically hip. Yeah, he went to that concert in wore a jean jacket. Everybody thought he was like a vibe And I think that's how he won that election or whatever Wow, you know, it's hilarious and then it's good-looking he's tall and he's charismatic He's figured out a way to bullshit in the beginning before he had any power it works. Yeah, because he sounded like a sensible guy

93:36But people get revealed when they face pressure and when he faced pressure during that trucker thing Then he showed his true cards. Do you think that they'll take Canada in to be the 50s? First or second state whichever one it is I think This is what I think I think we take Canada and then we go right into Mexico fucking go. Whoa Yeah, that's what I said. I tweeted that today. You did I didn't see that She let Mexico into I want to be fucking everybody keeps sneaking over how we just let them stay here Yeah, just like how about we go into that? How about what I said? How about what he said it like instead of trying to like let all the bad stuff in how about we make this like totally Lockdown safe and then expand safety expand it But you got to do it without stripping people their rights It's a lot it's a lot but also there's a problem like Poland doesn't let anybody in or out of their country Is that right don't fuck around Poland doesn't and that's what like why isn't why don't some countries like well, I guess America is kind of this it's kind of a halfway house of Like ideals over the years it feels like you know It feels like like I always thought there was this idea idea of this is an American. This is what we do You know, it's kind of like how you were brought up like with the Pledge of Allegiance civics class all that type of stuff Like this is what it means like Ford tough type vibes, you know, but then it everything kind of changes over time And now I feel like it's we don't know what America is And I think that's the part that seems super scary to people sometimes Well, that's the part that's easy to manipulate right so in this moment of chaos that we're talking about

95:08I don't know what America is anymore. That's when you get all these fucking activist groups that are not real That's when you get this discourse online That's you get people attacking and you get real people that get caught up in it too And they're getting you caught up in it as well because all these people like people are super addicted to arguing with stuff online and I you know I see like Otherwise very reasonable people that are on Twitter 12 hours a day and I just don't understand what the fuck is wrong with you Yeah, otherwise very reasonable successful people like what why are you doing this? Yeah, some people tweet all day. Elon tweets all day all day All day it must be an addiction right at this point. I mean there's no way if it's real Do you think it's really him doing it? Well, that was the Andre Dittman thing. That was the thing that people were saying that this was a fake So was that proven that it wasn't him? I've been trying to track that down to have no idea what's I'd heard that it was proven that it wasn't him because this guy who Sounds like Elon was doing something while Elon was playing Diablo live They had him talk to me what I think in a space right? They were never taught they were definitely both making noise at the same time But again like without seeing both this also never seen a picture of the other guy. I don't think that could be AI Right you told me a guy like Elon couldn't like just for funsies Rig something like that. That's a test it. He's catching rockets with robot arms You don't think he can figure that out? He can figure that out.

96:32He can have the algorithms talk to each other. I think there's – they can already translate your language. They can take whatever you're saying right now in your podcast and they can translate it to German. They can translate it to Spanish. They can translate it to anything. If they can do that, they could for sure have a version of you that's quick enough with AI that it could respond like a person would. Yeah. Well, it's all going to get interesting because now there used to be places if you didn't like what was going on, you could sail off to another place. But there's not that many of those places anymore. No, and that's one of the reasons why we've got to protect America. we've got to protect freedom because if they can lock down on us we are the last beacon of hope for the world and i know that sounds ridiculous oh you guys are so ridiculous help so egocentrical look what's happening to europe look at the chaos look at the chaos look at look at what's happening in terms of like how people are upset at their political parties look at what's happening with Palestine and Israel. Look what's happening with Ukraine and Russia. Did you see that fucking bomb that went off today? You want to see something nuts? I don't know if that's real. You don't know if it's real? I don't think so.

97:51Yeah. For real? Did you send me in the middle of the night? Yeah. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah. I was taking a shit. Oh, yeah. I was like, Jamie needs to know about this one. Oh, yeah, dude. I don't like shit in that night because sometimes I'll go back to sleep while I'm sitting there and my legs will fall asleep. Ever had that happen to you, bub? Yes. And then you try to get up and you're like, I'm stuck here on shit island. Yeah. Your legs go numb. And then you just fall down and hurt yourself. Imagine if that's how you hurt yourself. Like slipping with your pants down by your ankles and your numb ass stupid legs. You bang your fucking head into the nightstand like, ow!

98:30And your wife's like, is this who I'm married? Ow! Yeah. You're the protector. You KO'd yourself in the toilet room slamming your head off the fucking doorknob. Donk. You get a big circle in the middle of your forehead for a month. Yeah. Every time she looks at you, she thinks of you with your stupid fucking bruise, your pants down by your ankles, half wiped ass. Yeah. Dude, my mom used to always come. We doze off on the shitter as children. You know, my mom would always come in there and rescue us or whatever. That's hilarious. Well, now it must be more common because of phones. Oh, yeah, people all the time. Spend way more time. A lot of crazy stuff. You know, the Asians can't eat hot dogs anymore. I just saw that the other day. They can't as a general rule.

99:14They're not allowing it. North Korea. What were you just looking up, Jamie? Ukraine hypersonic thing. Yeah. You need to see this. I've already had a shoot down. I don't think that video is real. I'll just start there. You son of a bitch. But there's already saying, like, don't believe the hype from a 2023 Ukraine and the Kinzel missile. Don't believe the hypersonic hype. Well, I remember the beginning of the war. There was a bunch of footage that turned out to just be video games. It was going everywhere because people can make money from clicks. Right. So that explosion is not real. Can I see that again? It's not real. I just. Well, everything's just dangerous now.

100:00How do you know that's not real? When it comes up here, that video of that bomb and that tree line, someone edited that part. Those two things aren't the same. In what way? I'm just in my history of looking at this stuff a lot. There's a lot of separation right there. See that line? But if it's far enough away for the curvature of the earth, wouldn't that? In theory, it could be real, but this is the only video of this that exists. Right. And no one else is claiming that this is real anywhere else online. Right. What I'm seeing, though, is that that thing that you're looking at in the background is elevated. Right. So that would indicate to me hills and valleys. So that means the bomb could be going off in the valley below that, and I don't know how far down that is. So if you're talking about an area, like this could be Utah, right?

100:56So if you're taking a photograph in certain- It's like Utah. It's got a soccer field. Oh, yeah. Where is that? Do they play a lot of soccer? In Ukraine? Utah? Oh, Ukraine? They probably do, right? So see what I'm saying? Like that could be far enough over that hill where you get that effect of separation and still be natural. The way that it even looks, though, it looks like someone's got a TV behind another thing, and they're showing an explosion of a TV. Right. The way that that looks is not even. Right. It does look like a little. Exposed correctly, if you will. Right. And even when it pulls away, it gets weird.

101:31Yeah. It looks grainier. And I don't know how you would be filming that to catch a hypersonic missile. It says it was a U.S. reporter accidentally films it. Like, okay, yeah, really? And it's going pretty slow at that point, too. Let me see it again. Well, it's a perspective thing. Like, it might look slower than it is because, you know, it's covering a lot of distance. It looks like Terminator 2, really. That's kind of like where it starts. It's hard too because like we're probably looking at cell phone footage and cell phone footage is still not that good So bizarre they keep making it better and better, but it gets worse and worse the photos do Well, first of all like drones. I have not seen one good cell phone drone video So all that argument about like a few UFOs real where the fucking videos everyone's got a phone Those are those arguments are now out the window because we know the drones are real right so we don't what Sorry, here's the result for the Hockensile missile thing. Like, it just starts talking about it. Oh, the type of missile that they're saying that that was? If that was a real video, in theory, it would be everywhere. Yeah.

102:35It would be everywhere? What do you mean? There would be a bunch more results saying, like, look at this crazy video of this missile going off. Oh, I see, I see. So there's only one video, and there's no other reports of that bomb going off like that? I would also look at the account that posted it and start looking at some of the other shit they posted. Oh, it's a shit poster. What was that one, though, that did blow up? Was it in Iran or in Syria recently where they hit some ammo depot, the Israelis did, and it looked crazy. And that was a real one. Yeah, you remember that one? I think you're right. I think you're right. That's heartbreaking. Oh, it's so scary. You watch the amount of explosion when it hits. You're like, Jesus. Check this out. Oh, this is a different one, but this is another one that's crazy. This is an ammunition depot building that blows up, but watch this. You're lying.

103:31Bro, how fucking scary is that? So play that back again. That's real? Mm-hmm. Watch this. Yeah, that's what it looks like when one of them things blows up. Yeah, that's crazy. Could a Kevlar thing help you from that? A Kevlar? No, no, no, no, no, no. Everyone's getting smushed. Especially if you're close the buildings are getting eliminated And what can you hide behind what type of thing would you do there? There's nothing you're not gonna do anything You're gonna get vaporized, but yet so it's only about how much distance you are from that blast Here's one too. Yeah, this is the one the aerial is Siri. That's right the Syrian army one check this out See if you can do it from the beginning. It's fucking bananas dude. Watch this look at this This just happened A couple weeks ago, maybe. Three weeks ago, it says. Fuck. Look at that.

104:21And that was in Syria? Mm-hmm. What did they do wrong? The way he just phrased that was so funny. Oh, yeah. I don't know. If you really want to pay attention, you have to go down multiple rabbit holes. Okay. But, you know, Assad was just removed as the dictator of Syria. Okay. What's that, Jamie? Oh, I thought you did. He did get removed, right? And is he dead? Or is he... Because there was reports that he was in a plane. The plane was shot out of the sky. But then there was reports that he landed in Russia. So I don't even know what's true. Did he get a shot out of the sky? That was like a story that was in the news.

105:05I do remember hearing that. It's not saying he's dead when I Google his name. Are the stories still up? that says his plane got shot out of the sky? Because I remember there were stories that said his plane got shot out of the sky, and then there was some Twitter story saying that he landed in Russia. I was like, what is going on with this? But they wanted a regime change, and they got it. How hard was it for him to get? You know, that's the problem. If you want to go down this rabbit hole and have a conversation with Dave Smith about it, he'll take you down a rabbit hole. He's an interesting guy, huh? He knows a lot. He's very smart. Very very smart. He knows a lot. He knows a lot and he like legitimately knows lies not bullshitting about what he knows Yeah, and that's why he gets these these guys they get cocky and they want to have caught like Chris Cuomo Want to have a debate with them and he just trounces them

105:57He knows what he's talking about he's and he's not lying right the difference between a guy like like any of these CNN type media darling types who pushed the fucking COVID narrative and push every mainstream narrative. Those guys, that's a very specific kind of mindset. It's a bullshitter's mindset. And those guys all melt in front of actual conversations with people like Dave Smith who know what they're talking about are not ideologically captured. Yeah. Because there's certain things you just can't argue. You can't argue that it's a good idea to do certain things And if you have not made that conclusion in your mind, you're still thinking like you're employed at CNN You're never gonna beat a guy like Dave Smith in a conversation You because he's not gonna argue with you if you're right if you're right, he's gonna agree with you He seems to lock in these people that are they're doing a totally different thing Reuters reports Assad may have died in plane crash later removes report Well, they got the call so he escaped I guess but well. Yeah, so there they got the regime is gone and down and he I've seen no more updates other than this that I don't know where you do you believe that we still can get real news information Joe not for me Speaking of which I have to correct something because there was a conversation that I had with I'm Giannis Papas and Chris DiStefano we were talking about John Jones I had heard a rumor that John Jones wanted 30 million dollars to fight Tom Aspinall and I did hear that rumor and I did hear that the UFC

107:37Said yes, but it is not true. So Dana contacted me said that rumors bullshit So I felt obligated to tell everybody that was that was a fake rumor I don't even remember who because we did that podcast unfortunately. We did that podcast two weeks ago. Yeah I don't remember who told me that. What do you think the amount is that Jon Jones would fight him for, or do you think it's an amount? Well, apparently Jon is thinking about retiring. Yeah. And he should. I mean, he's going to have to someday. I'm not saying he should retire. I'm saying he should think about it. Give the man all the time he wants. He can fight whenever he wants to fight. That's Jon Jones. He's the GOAT. So leave him alone. If he decides one day to come back, and he comes back and he wants to fight Tom Aspinall for the heavyweight title, The question is, like, how long are you allowed to hold on to the title before they start having that conversation? Now, he just knocked out Stipe Miocic, so give the man months.

108:30Give the man five or six months. Just leave him the fuck alone. But at a certain point in time, you have to decide who the heavyweight champion is. And if Tom is the interim heavyweight champion and John decides he doesn't want to fight anymore, he could do that. And he could do that also and then come back in a year and fight for the title. He could do that. He can do whatever he wants, but he might decide, you know what? Had an unbelievable career, never lost, except the disqualification lost to a rule that has since been reversed. He's the GOAT. He retires. He's got plenty of money. He's got an opportunity to do some acting. Yeah. He's an interesting character to me because he seems like them. He seems unique, kind of. He's very unique, yeah. Like he seems hard to pinpoint kind of. Does that make any sense or no? No, but that doesn't ever stop me from conversations with you. Thanks, dude. I don't require you to make sense.

109:27Yeah. Yeah, he just seems unique. That would be so boring. Imagine if I were – listen, Theo, I really love you. I love talking to you, but you got to make sense. Imagine that would ruin our whole relationship. That's true. That would be the most ridiculous requirement. You know what Joe said to me? people go what that is so fucked up why would you say that god give me one of those gay steaks these things are 30 bucks more god damn it comes out you're telling me queer shoulders 9 dollars more per pound they serve it in a high heel shoe the waiter takes it out of the shoe plates it

110:07the waiter just kind of scoops it onto your tongue Yeah, I call it a juicy Santana the But they're gonna they're gonna start it's gonna start happening. They're gonna start getting these LGBTQ meets They're gonna start getting what's the D you put a D in there They keep putting other stuff Yeah, they always add ones but the one that pisses me off the most the a that's asexual hey stay out of it this is not you why are you in there it's like the it's the electoral college thing that i was talking about right as they gathered up this we get enough of like fucking springfield ohio come on in come on in we could use your vote and then just pile it all on do you think it's a good idea to get rid of the electoral college do you think it should be one person one vote yeah i kind of do because i think it just there's no way that it's like askew it all then you know i feel like it's one person one vote that's it right you know i just worry about still like how many extra votes they had the one time you know if that was ever figured out or not nobody figured it out which seems crazy but there's theories i just wonder once our voting gets compromised it's a rat there's theories but the theories suck the number's too big to me 15 million is too many people you look at the like the graph of how many people voted you know for 2012 2016 and then there's 2020 yeah it's bananas people showed up and then there's 24 it goes back to normal again and 24 is probably the most consequential election of our lifetime where people felt more nervous like if these motherfuckers get in charge one more time like we could get like literally invaded by terrorists we could lose all of our rights to say things on the internet

112:08they could i mean they were talking about cracking down on hate speech online like that free speech is not hate speech that tim walske i was actually saying that hate speech free speech does not include hate speech. By whose fucking definition? Yours? A guy who thinks tampons should be in the boys' room? Yeah. Like when Trump started calling him Tampon Tim, that was like one of the of all his names. That's my all-time favorite. It didn't get used that much because he only had it for a couple of months because the guy went away as soon as the election was over. But Tampon Tim was the best. Yeah, I think I'm amazed how quickly after the election everything just felt like Dude, people in New York, Ari was talking about it He said people in New York, even though they didn't win Like their guy didn't win, they're happy they didn't win There's like a marked feeling of relaxation Like, whew

113:00Because people in New York are realizing your fucking city is under attack And now it's 18 bucks to drive in and out of it It's $9 It's under attack, and I don't even mean like invaders There's that too, but there's also, your rights are under attack You're being propagandized You're getting your finances drained. They're sucking money out of you and not providing you good service. You have terrible leadership You have corrupt leadership You know when they saw with bill de Blasio And I think they thought it was gonna be better with Eric Adams and this Kathy Holchel ladies out of her fucking mind like you're watching these Lunatics run that state and they're running it into the fucking ground and people have to wake up before the thing hits the rocks Do you think we'll start to separate into different countries and states eventually? Or do you think new things like that will start to happen? Or do you think we'll figure everything out? Well, we are different countries. We're the United States of America, but we're like Europe, really. Like, New York is so much different than Idaho. You know? Iowa is so much different than Florida. You know?

114:05I mean, we all speak the same language, but how much different is Miami to Portland? I mean they might as well be in another fucking country. Yeah, you might you should have a passport to go to Miami Yeah, you should check your papers. You want to go to Miami? You just went to Cancun son To go to Eastern Washington Yes, but it's like We're a bunch of different spots and that's one things that makes it cool is that you can move to a new spot But like you were saying earlier like you could move to a new spot for now Like we moved we moved you moved to Nashville. I moved to Texas We moved because we didn't like the spot we're at. We found a spot. It was like this is better like this is more relaxing. I feel better. But if you are under one universal control and that federal control controls all of the social issues, all of the contentious issues about whatever it is, whether it's Second Amendment, First Amendment, abortion, immigration, whatever. If you have like central control, then you stifle the debate about what's best for the population. Because when the people get into control, they enforce that. And then they penalize the people that don't agree with them. And they make it like real obvious that you step out of line. They're going to come get you and they're going to arrest you just like they're doing in the UK. While they're arresting people that are making Facebook posts, you bet your fucking ass. There's a lot of people that want to post things on Facebook and they don't. Yeah, because they don't want to go to jail. And that's not good. That's not good. That's the problem with centralized control. Yeah, I just saw a thing where they oh, yeah, well, that seems like the scariest thing because it's like, well, how do you think that people here are like people there or that the beliefs here are like the beliefs there? That's why I wish we almost had like places where it's like, OK, if this is how you believe, then this is a place for you. Right. And if this is how you believe, then this is a place for you. Because I think if we have, you know, I don't think you have that many places you need.

116:06probably 10 or 11 places. Well, but then you get the problem of people coming into a place and deciding that they want to put their own beliefs on this place and change the place. Yeah. That's where things get real weird. And you're seeing that with, you know, a lot of countries that are getting a lot of Islamic immigrants and they want to enforce Sharia law and they want to do it in their neighborhoods and do it in their communities. And what is that thing? Is this bullshit? Because there was some patrol group of Muslims in New York that were driving around in cars and they were dressed like cops. And I saw that. I was like, is this rage bait? Is this click bait? Like, what is this? What is this I'm saying? This can't be real. So it was these guys dressed up like cops that had cars that looked like cop cars. It said something about like... Could have been a music video or something. It could be. It could be.

117:03Is it this? This is five years old. Muslim community patrols protecting U.S. mosques. So are they just security guards that are around mosques? Is that what it is? And people are blowing this up? Yeah. That's what it is. I just saw two election counts. The numbers are pretty similar from 2020 to 2024. Really? Now that they have everything? They have 155 million votes for this. Can we see it? The graph? I didn't see it on the graph. See, but the thing was the graph was that there was 15 million extra votes. I know, but the graphs were made before the counts were all done. Right, but wouldn't that mean, oh, so now the numbers are high again? I mean, yeah, California didn't finish counting until like a week ago or something like that. And they weren't counting for a long time. Are you serious? I don't know the actual date, but it was a long time. That's true. Trump was just talking about it, that California hasn't finished counting yet. Bro, they're the worst.

117:55How could you take so long to count? Here's the best part in every close race after prolonged counting for long periods of time. Democrats won. Yeah, the ones that What are the odds the ones where you see like how many counties shifted red? That's the same thing It's like people are getting fed up with it. They're tired They're sick. They're sick of bullshit. So hey, dude, we're gonna do my podcast and we're gonna do your podcast So this is what we're gonna do. Okay, so we will right now we'll stop We'll take a piss and then people that want to follow this conversation go to the O Vaughn's podcast and It'll be this from now out. Thank you Joe. I appreciate it. Yeah, listen I appreciate you man. We're gonna have fun tonight, too. Yeah, I'm excited. Oh, yeah We're coming to the club Joe DeRosa's here. Oh, we got to let Shane out of that sauna. No, he's out. Oh, yes Okay, it's a door No, I'm excited to see him gonna be fun. Thank you, bro. Thank you. All right. We'll be right back folks on Theo show We'll see you next time.