Brian Redban

00:04four three two one hey fella what's going on hey how'd you like to get that quick quake fix oh my god it's so amazing how fast it came back to me like the addiction of playing that game over and over again it's a real problem yeah yeah we've been going crazy jamie's been me up too so today i got lucky that he had to help you get his together really kills i said he's been me up yeah not nice and you don't really play quake right you just it's from playing fortnite and stuff i tested myself a little bit because i knew this was going to happen eventually so i had to get some practice with some rockets at some point and yeah but it helped it honestly helps to warm up with quake to play fortnite or play pub g or something like that because the quick whatever it is of aiming you don't do it that much so like when you're doing it three times you've already done it 55

00:52times playing quake just in one round right so like your little interaction you have with someone a shotgun you usually win so quake is so fast-paced yeah we're playing quake four it's like oh that's three jesus christ i haven't played that game in maybe 15 years me too you know i don't think you're ever going to do it again i probably shouldn't what i noticed is my eyesight sucks now my eyesight is not nearly as good it's interesting from like 42 to 46 there was a big drop off and at 46 the floor fell out now it's like my eyesight gamer glasses yeah it takes me a minute when i play games too one game isn't enough yeah it probably takes 10 minutes maybe less but like to just start tracking things getting your eyes up to speed the distance you are away from that screen all it takes a little bit of time to get in there yeah man it's uh we're right now

01:41we're just playing it on the local area network but uh once you start going online and playing other people that's when it gets super super addictive people that still play that game must be insane oh my god i don't want to be anywhere near this psychopath if they're playing that game it's because they're really good at it probably yeah you know like who else like young kids aren't buying that game back in the day you even had a joe rogan uh level that somebody created remember that somebody created a level that's right was that what game was that three or four i think it was four was it really yeah four was 11 though didn't it come out in 2011 i think so yeah maybe it was three then it might have been three wasn't it it wasn't rockefeller arena iv i don't know oh my gosh i don't remember i don't remember i know there was rocket arena for quake 2 and there was rocket arena for quake

02:263. because i started with rocket arena for quake 2. which if you played today you would think the graphics are hilariously bad but uh it's a good game it's a little slower the fast game was like quake one was really fast quake two was slower and then quake three became more like quake one a combination of quick one quick two it's pretty fast quake four is probably perfect miss it and you tried to play the new quake but you didn't you didn't like it as much as that the only problem is it's fun we had a good time the only problem is you have to do everything through their servers so it takes time it's got a load it's like it's not i'm impatient right i'm a child that's crazy yeah you you refuse to try any of the other ones right like that they're all just new addictions you know waiting to happen i just feel like once if i got one addiction uh this weekend on saturday they had a

03:22concert in fortnight yeah marshmallow it was crazy yeah what does that mean yeah it's it's tough to explain but they had it's called an event what they're calling it is like an event so at two o'clock everybody showed up at the game and this concert started it was like so all the avatars were together like in one gigantic normal mode you know you played it just like normal and then all of a sudden like two minutes to go they took everybody's guns away and like you all just sort of congregated around the stage and the music started the show started they started doing interactive things with all the avatars and everything and like 10 minutes later it just it cut off but it turns out it was actually live he he was tweeting about it all day because for promotion and whatnot but people were asking like how did you do that how did you work it out his voice was going live to everyone

04:08who was playing was probably millions of people whoa yeah and it was just normal dj voice stuff like hey jump guys hey was it yeah he's just like hey guys come on like he wasn't interacting too much as much as he probably does during a normal set when he's playing at 20 000 people in vegas or whatever it is so when he does it he probably has like a really good microphone too like it's not like the microphone that you talk on right yeah yeah they had something else set up yeah yeah when we first started doing quick no one you had a type yeah that's how goofy it was you had to you couldn't talk like now people are talking like they're all in a group together talking right i have a voice changer now too but doesn't the talking get in the way like if you hear people talking it gets in the way of hearing sounds like sound cues yes you tell your teammates to up

04:50you can turn that off also oh you can yeah i i like to hear the footsteps going around coming around the corner and stuff it makes it scary yeah it's part of what's scary about quake is like you you hear someone running like oh and you know they're right around the corner you can control all that it's all up to you volume settings all that kind of thing it's very very addictive game so we should talk about this uh the jack podcast because everybody got so upset about it and let's clear up a few things first of all the guy seems to be willing to talk about anything it's not that i didn't want to talk to him about those things it's just he was being uh i wouldn't say he's evasive but he was basically just saying what he knew based on the company policy i didn't know what else more to ask him and people felt like i didn't press him hard enough and he to his credit reached out to me

05:40and said that he would offer to do another one to ask more questions that's cool and i said that would be awesome so i said well this is the thing that people seem to be upset about they seem to be upset about very specific cases where people showed um like if if people were right-wing and they were posting things they were banned whereas people who are left-wing or maybe uh people of different races were allowed to post racist things or more offensive things and even dox people and didn't suffer any consequences for it this is the argument my problem is i don't spend enough time reading this stuff i don't know like this is like when people get banned like anthony kumi is a friend of mine i don't really know why he got banned i don't know what happened i know there was that incident with that that woman that punched him and he wound up getting fired he was

06:32drunk and he said a bunch of really stupid on in and twitter and then later apologized for it but i don't know if that's what got him far uh kicked off twitter but he's my friend so what i'm saying is all these other guys that have problems i don't know what the happened man i'm busy i really don't i don't know i don't even know what got alex jones kicked off which is why i asked him because that was one of the last platforms for alex jones was twitter but something got him kicked off their take on it was it they never kicked him off before because he didn't violate their terms of service and another thing that's very encouraging that jack said and i know it's it's fun to get mad at things it's fun to get mad at him it's fun to get mad at me for it i get it i'd probably do the exact same thing i totally understand it but one of the things that he said was that

07:21he believes that the ability to communicate on the internet through twitter or through these platforms is a basic human right that's how you look like i said do you think of it like uh a network like nbc like if you're on nbc they can decide what's on and what's not on or do you look at it like a utility and he specifically said that he looked at it more like that that he thought it was a basic right that's very encouraging he also said that he would bring on whoever it is in his team that's responsible for these things so we could hear from the actual person who decides who's getting banned and why they're getting banned and what what is what's the decision making behind all these things we can go over all of them i didn't think the podcast would create such a controversy but that's probably poor prior planning on my part because my thought about it was hey

08:18i want to like it's crazy to be running twitter like it's crazy that this thing exists the president uses it as a platform i want to talk about the dude who created this and what is this like to have this thing evolved to become what it's become because it didn't start out that way it started out like fun like uh at bryan red bands going to the movies you know what i mean like that's what people used it for and then along the way it became this global method of distributing information where people use it in war zones man they use it to to tell people where attacks are they use it for all kinds of crazy it's like it's a really powerful but strange medium i didn't think about getting into the weeds with all the very specific people that got banned i just wanted to find out why they banned people that was my take on it i know there's a lot of conservative voices that have never been

09:08banned i don't think stephen crowder's been banned i don't think cernovich has been banned has he been banned there's a bunch that have not been banned right so it's not like they banned all right-wing voices so what is it i don't know what it is i think it's what he said people reporting the tweet and then somebody's looking at it going well this does violate our you know policy and maybe you know all these people that that got banned violated the policy somehow you know it's probably as simple and cut clean as that you know it's it's not that simple right because they make their own policies and it's also not that simple if people are allowed to say similar things that are very racist in vast generalizations about white people which seems to have been the case in at least a few instances where people reported that people said up things about white people but there was no repercussions

10:05and you know that's where the argument becomes these people are more oppressed and so the white people are thought of as the oppressor so you have this white privilege thing that people like to use now as a reason to to decide to like silence someone like check your white privilege that's a that's an interesting thing that's happening so if if there's this genuine movement where people think that it's okay to say things about one race whether you like it or not that's racism and if you're allowing that from any one side and not allowing it from another side it seems hypocritical look it's very distasteful the idea of racism against black people in this country is very distasteful to everybody almost everybody who's not a racist right because of the history of this country because of slavery because of all these things it's a different connotation but if you just allow people

11:01to say terrible things about any race it's racism you're you're allowing a like a predetermined attitude about a race some people have done this they have made generalizations generalizations uh racist statements about white people the the really weird thing that people are throwing around these days is that you can't be racist against white people because racism is about power and influence it's about using your your in the that black people are not powerful the white people are powerful from the white people the ones who are oppressed so it's impossible to be racist against them that sounds like horseshit to me i'm not buying that that doesn't make any sense it's not beneficial to anybody to generalize this is what we got to get in our head it doesn't matter if you're black or if you're white or if you're whatever the you are it is not beneficial to generalize to take a a person out of

11:58the group that we we think of as just human individuals you have to be an individual i mean i acknowledge the fact that people look different they have different heritages they have heritages they have different different ancestry they have different occupations different parts of the world there's all these differences but at the end of the day the only way we're all going to get true equality and true kinship and camaraderie as human beings as if we recognize we're just all a human being that's it there are very big differences in the way we look and the things we like that's cool but as soon as you you can say shitty things about white people or white men that leaves everybody who doesn't fit that description guilty in this weird way or presumed guilty because of a racist statement that's all it is it's not good for anybody i get it that it's different than racism

12:55against black people in america a country that was built essentially in a lot of ways by slavery there's a war for slavery in this country and that is a crazy reality that it's not your responsibility it's not mine i didn't do it you didn't do it but it's real therefore as a person who's aware of his history the history of this country racism against white people seems different but it still sucks to be racist against uh racist against black people rather seems different but it still sucks to be racist against white people sucks to be racist against puerto ricans it's not good it's not good for anybody it's that's what we have to understand about this social media thing what actually did happen and what is happening why is it happening and if it's just some social justice warrior ethic that you're not debating it doesn't seem fair it seems like there

13:47should be a conversation about this and i bet they're super reasonable really intelligent people and it's possible they can come to a a good place that we can all agree to that is possible i'm not a cynical person i'm sorry i know a lot of you like them they just want this they just want that guess what they already have it they have more money than they could ever spend and my dealings with jack as a person he seems like a very nice guy and a very smart guy and and a very empathetic guy i just think he's in a crazy unmanageable situation to be running something like twitter yeah and there's probably people that did something that they should have done in terms of silencing people and moving things around it's probably happened it's a weird thing when people have influence over people and there's there have been videos have been proven where executives

14:39from a bunch of different social media corporations have talked about how to silence certain voices how to push down certain voices um this is something that needs to be discussed like is this a a is a policy as a whole is it you know is it because you you think you're pushing the right message like as soon as someone thinks they're pushing the right message but they don't have a there's no debate about that right they just decide our way's the right way and they're pushing this and there's a radical opposition to that message from half the country like like but you'd be like no no but this is the one that's in control of the narrative this is the one that's in control of social media it's this far left leaning ideology and the other part gets pushed aside that's a very bad situation for all of us because there has to be conversation there has to be debate

15:33because if there's not it just shores up the differences between two people and they hate each other even more i did not take that into account and i up that's my mistake that is my mistake when i made that podcast but i didn't take it easy on them because i didn't want to discuss those issues i just didn't think enough of it in advance i'm not as involved in it as other people are i'm aware that there's censorship in social media i'm aware my my ideas going into that conversation were more about how insane this method is for distributing information for the people that have been banned and for the people that were fans of the people that are banned i can understand why they'd be upset at me it has nothing to do with any preconceived notions that i had it's just how the conversation took place it's all it is and if you felt left down by that you didn't feel like it was

16:26extensive enough i'm more than willing to do it and go further into it and we're going to and jack offered it and he's going to bring someone else who's going to explain things to us i think this would be very beneficial for everybody i also think that there should be a road to redemption i think if you've got something that's important as twitter or facebook or instagram if you're not stealing someone's stuff like you know you're using copyrighted music or something on on an instagram page where you get banned over and over again for doing it but you keep doing it if it's not something like that if it's if it's a an ideological difference if maybe you crossed a line that they they decided was a line you should be able to work your way back there should be a way where you can sign up again i mean like get a new email address i don't mean that man i mean be the same

17:17person you should you should be able to be the same person there should be a way but there should be different levels definitely everybody people up man they they up and they make mistakes right and people also grow i mean there's this uh guy that was on sam harris's podcast um christian piccolini i think is his name he was a white supremacist a full-on white supremacist and now he is the exact opposite he's he's like this very progressive guy who gives speeches on the the dangers of racism and that and the ideology how it caught up with him now if he got banned when he was a young man and making terrible decisions and then became a better person shouldn't we give a guy like that a chance to get back in a platform right and without making a whole new screen name like maybe it would be i mean i don't think there's anything wrong with the anonymous model

18:13there's some things that are really good about it right like people like jack even talked about this that people can report news stuff and not worry about fear of retribution that they can you know they can whistle blow and not worry about fear of retribution if someone's life is on the line but they're trying to provide a service to the general public or they're trying to give people information that maybe might even save lives but could put them at risk especially in like third world countries or war-torn countries that could be a huge problem if you have to post you know brian redband if there's the only way you can get this information out you have to use your whole name but it'd probably be better off for everybody if people had a a a way of communicating with each other like it's just person to person and i think the the real problem is when people try to

19:05engineer these conversations and this is another conversation about youtube people have said that we're deleting comments on youtube we're not deleting anything we haven't deleted any comments i don't know how it works i don't read them i'm sure people say mean things have a good time the thumbs up thumbs down thing look we we you don't have to have that on there you don't have to have comments on there youtube gives you the option to have comments on and to have the thumbs up thumbs down i'm not taking those off have a good time with it but we're not with that there's something that they're doing that's not it's not i post at 3 41 and jamie posts it 342 and this is the line of the comments it's not like that they've got their own way of doing it the question is why does youtube do it what's their what what are they trying to do is are they trying to block out spam are

19:59they trying to block out hate speech are they trying to engineer conversation they talk about comment order comments on no the comments disappear they go away uh a lot of times it's automatic if somebody flags a comment that will just take the comment away until it's like looked over upon only one person yeah on i think on youtube that happens quite often probably as little as one or two people yeah so that is probably what's happening to all you folks that think your comments are getting deleted no one's deleting yeah look i'm i'm not attached to what i do in the sense that i'm unwilling to look at what i do wrong i try to look at everything that i do wrong including this so if you were upset at this podcast because you thought somehow another i sold out because i didn't ask him any more questions i just asked him the questions i wanted to ask i understand you have more questions

20:50more questions and i do too i have more questions too especially upon seeing people's reaction to it and upon you know making myself pay more attention to all these various stories uh matt sent us a list of them some of them are really crazy there's some crazy things people have said and not gotten in trouble for whereas other people said things that really weren't that bad and got in trouble for it why is that that's a good question to ask so we'll we'll concentrate on that we're just gonna work out a date so my humblest apologies to all of you don't i'm not trying to let anybody down i always try to do my best that's it and and also here's another clear one no one tells me what to do there's no one there's no secret person behind the scenes if i up it's because of me it's my up i should have prepared more i should have thought about it more but i didn't realize

21:42like how upset people would be i think you did a great i thought it was a great interview and i didn't even think of that i thought you kind of touched on it a little when you were talking about alex jones and i think that was like okay you know this is what happens well it's a very specific group of people that are upset it's right right-wing guys right there's a lot of american flags a lot of pepe the frogs it's all right people which look man that easily could have been me at many points of my life easily especially being a troll online you know if you're working in some job and you're making pepe to frog memes and you're with people i get it i get it it's one of the things i like about the internet like i don't i don't want to be comfortable i'm like i don't want to be comfortable all the time i want i want a little bit of chaos i like the fact that there's people like

22:29they're like that i was upset that that radiolab podcast they took it down where they were with shia labeou or those guys from 4chan and the way they took it down was they contacted radio lab and said those guys are white supremacists and they support white supremacy you know and you just you know you made these people that are awful terrible people that write terrible things you you gave them props but the thing about something like 4chan is no you might read some terrible things but you got to realize you're also reading terrible things from anonymous people that are working at their jobs most of the time and they're trying to with people's head and they're trying to get people upset they're having a good time with people if you want to take them as that that's like them like giving giving a talk to a dear friend or them giving an affidavit in court well you're missing the whole thing

23:18it's entertainment like half of the whole reason why they're doing it is entertainment they didn't go steal shia labeou's flag and go and go right to the camera go shia labeou by using coordinates from photographs of the sky where they figured out where the where the the constellations lie and then drove around honking their horn so that they could locate where it was by using the webcam and listening to how close they got to it i mean it's genius and it got taken down just by this accusation of them being racist but the thing about a forum like 4chan or reddit or anything you have so many people you have thousands and thousands and thousands of people if you just have 10 posting jokes about black people that's all you need to ruin the reputation of thousands of people so for someone to say that everybody that was like shia labeou is some racist and a white supremacist that's a cheap way

24:18out that's a cheap way out i bet more likely it's some dude who's bored and he's sitting in front of his computer and he works all day and this is where he escapes he escapes in and types and writes things then checks them later and then goes back to it and types things and checks and it keeps insane in this stupid cubicle that's a lot of the people so they pulled that whole amazing podcast down because of that look what he the shia labour thing was ridiculous he will not divide us come on stop stop we get a chant that everywhere it's funny what they did they mocked something that's their way of mocking it nobody got hurt they made it out like it was this like awful crime they committed on this this amazing person who's just trying to change the world no no they they pranked shia labeou and they said shia labeou this is that how are you saying he's a nice guy too he probably did

25:18something silly it's a little silly he will not divide us what they did was funny it's a funny reaction i i like that i like that like this is a is important part of this thing if it wasn't for people like that there would be no podcast now the like to dislike ratio that you see on youtube videos is fascinating right because it's weaponized and they're thinking about trying to ban that now because so many people use it to with people i hate to say this about you folks but every time we have a chick on here they get tortured the like to dislike right it's ruthless except rhonda kilbatric separated patrick but it's just it's weaponized it's uh they're just going to dislike it because because it's fun though it's funny because it's fun it looks down it's also fun to throw a rock at a window it's fun yeah i mean and some of them probably didn't even watch the podcast like thumbs down

26:10gives them a little disliking it gives a little bit of power in the algorithm of deranking it yeah i think she affected something and people who liked it there's probably a lot of them that didn't even watch it it's a button you can press people are weird you know but it's clearly it shows by the amount of dislike that people moved on it and they were upset about it um so that's basically it we'll see there's a lot of cool interesting questions that to ask him like i always thought shadow banning was a real thing but i think he came out and said that that's not a real thing but i've i've seen it in my you know in person where i'll type somebody's name in and usually it's supposed to come up on the you know searches but it doesn't you know shadow banning is a if it is a real thing like that's another one like shadow banning for what like if if it's not something that is if you're

26:59not doing something that you could get kicked off the platform for right you're not kicking them off you're just pushing them down some weird place but if you're doing that like why are you doing that like what because like uh but what would be the justification from the ones that i've seen there used to even be a website that you could type in somebody's username to see if they're a shadow band so that's kind of interesting but uh like a lot of porn stars are shadow bands because they don't want if you're looking up christina applegate they want christina you know apple bottom or something like that you know what i mean so it's it's like they're i i still believe that's a thing but i'm pretty sure he came out and said it wasn't a real thing technically shadow banning justin bieber from the trending topics right i mean they publicly said that that's not a shadow band that's a

27:41strategy well no they were kind of forced into it because justin bieber was so his fans trend so hard they hashtag the out of that thing and they just took over the trending it's probably happening for other equally popular celebrities too like taylor swifts and beyonce yeah yeah you're probably right you're probably right so whatever they're doing at youtube with comments and whatever they're doing with twitter the here's the real conversation right the real conversation is do we want that do we want them to curate do we want them to decide whose youtube videos you could subscribe to and who i mean do they unsubscribe people is that real or is that a glitch yeah who knows i don't think they unsubscribe i don't think so either but people of well let's listen if they're willing to move justin bieber from the number one trending because he number one trends

28:36too hard and they think it's ridiculous not to just acknowledge that our culture that there's certain humans in our culture are spending an exorbitant amount of time thinking about that beautiful man right there's a lot but why do we want to lie and pretend that it's not as big so if they just i'm not saying they shouldn't but if they did that just if they did that you go okay are we through the looking glass now you can change the data like what what do you when when do you decide who gets pushed here who gets pushed there when do you decide youtube definitely the trending page on youtube is 100 controlled by a human i don't know if they've said that but there are videos that should be there that aren't based off of the data you see yeah youtube's got some weird things going on with it like there's a the videos that they go you might like type thing they did a you might like to me

29:27a couple months ago where it was just videos of a guy towing cars in dallas like out of their parking lot and he made these funny cute little videos with a little commentary using uh videos from the security cameras anyways i don't know why i liked it but i started watching it i was like you know this is interesting so i tweeted it out like random video i just got addicted to on youtube everybody like hundreds of people were like i just started watching that youtube recommended that to me like how did that happen you know this little guy with a tow truck company has now pushed on everybody's laps and now he just uh went over a hundred thousand subscribers the other day and it was like months ago that he was just had like 10. that that that's the argument some people have made that that's how fast the paul brothers they grew and they grew so fast on youtube that some

30:13people thought there was something up they gained like millions of followers within a week or two being on there and they were coming from another platform well it's also there's coming from another platform is giant but it's also all it really takes is one person deciding that whatever the you did was funny or weird or crazy like that cashew outside girl yeah well there's that girl's you know managed by the same people that own tmz and that's why you see it on tmz everybody i was gonna bring up if you watched the fire the fire festival documentary there's an explanation of they show how this uh they spread the the jerry guys the marketing team spread that with the orange picture it was a coordinated event over hundreds of different social media accounts for her for the cash outside for the flat price for the fire festival yeah firefighters to catch everybody's

30:57because there are a team of people there are agencies that have all these influencer accounts they pay them they don't have to accept the money or accept the offer except the campaign but oftentimes they do so it's like a talent agency 100 yeah yeah interesting you need to share a new person you need to launch the next the next voice and it's like oh here's a new song here's a new movie it's just a new way to spread it bro yeah it's pretty cool watching how many people are unsubscribing to jerry and the fat jew though that's yeah but are they i looked at the other days they have like 14 million they lost 500 000 in like a weekend really it's a significant amount last time i looked at it it was 14.7 then it was 14.1 i haven't looked today that's coming from i think a video someone shared this week i think vic burger made a video that got spread around they took his video right

31:46maybe out yeah i think that's what he said i think i saw it on vic burger's page there's a few comics i've posted videos like hey uh you know fat juice stole this you know and i tried to reach out they never got back to me he got 10 million what what do you think about this idea though like that's kind of piracy you know like and so instagram's allowing and and twitter's allowing piracy well i think they're allowing these people to post videos because you don't really know where it came from there's no proof right like if you find a meme like how many times you posted a meme i repost whoever sent it to me if someone sends it to me but sometimes i'll just find it in a google search and you've got to figure out who made that meme and if i find their instagram account then i'll try to find it and repost it but some people don't and i have it in the past like uh i did that one with uh

32:35baked alaska got mad at me because there was one with alex jones sitting in a hot tub and it's uh like when your friends are trying to chill and but you have to keep dropping truth bombs it was hilarious i didn't know it was his right i just posted it because someone sent it to me someone sent it to me in a text message i think um but those things have a creator right and uh i know p like eddie bravo makes his own he makes some sometimes but he'll send some to me or post some online that he finds that are funny too and everybody tries to credit the person who did it right but now what they do is they they take it and they credit the person but they didn't for so long they're not they're crediting fake accounts so they'll make a favor so they're not getting busted in the way you're just explaining i've seen that too well what is that about though because that seems like deception

33:25it's just the way around that that's backdooring that that qualification of it needs to be on an account we need to point to somebody okay well we'll point to this account but it's not even a real account right and if they find like they'll post stuff and then later add the person because the person contacts them and so they're almost like that's admitting to piracy like we did though i mean because it's if they just reposted it a lot of folks including me do that yeah but they're making the person they're making money other people are not yeah um that's important i don't make any money off my instagram right they're making millions yeah i just uh i've been offered to post stuff up and i'm not saying that i wouldn't if something was killer and they wanted to give me money i'm greedy i'll take some money but i wouldn't lie about it and uh and i haven't yet i've never accepted any

34:12money yet yeah because it's also i think in instagram's uh you know law that you have to put that it's an ad if you're making money off of it yeah and so that's another thing that both jerry and fat jew are not doing they're not putting an ad is it i just want to like to devil's advocate this though is is there a place for them for those accounts like is there a place to have to be the re tweeter of the memes to be that guy to be that account you know like um isn't that valuable yes it is a curator position yeah it's kind of valuable but the question is like if it if it is valuable and it becomes something almost like redistributing your stand up if you're doing a set like if stand-up sets were you know something that you just you could get everywhere and you could just repost it on your page but then your page became super popular because you have all these people stand-up sets

35:01you know like a spotify spotify gets ads right but they don't really they pay the artists a little bit but mostly they make all the money yeah i don't know like if it's you you like say sorry later you just do it and say i'm sorry i'm gonna figure it out after the fact or you these are all figured out business oriented things that have art in them as opposed to art oriented things that start making money they're two very different things so this is not an art thing this is uh they find other people's art and they sell it they're pushing it they create these accounts the accounts get giant people pass it around because they're just finding funny things and then they start profiting but all the people that created all the intellectual property get zero money which is weird i don't remember but i only learned more about this when exit the gift shop came out isn't that what andy warhol

35:52sort of did i don't know and i don't care i mean maybe he did maybe he did but the thing about it is that this is happening right now on the internet it's a totally different animal i mean andy warhol wasn't running around taking exact photo duplicates and putting them on his website for sale like these this is when someone's doing on an instagram page is like you could within seconds take a piece and put it somewhere else it's seconds yeah brian post something i think it's funny i go to copy i go to the repost at uh app i put it in there repost it it's seconds later you could do that all day and if you hire kids you i don't know if he has people working for them but if these guys do they hire people for 20 bucks an hour or whatever and these people just do it all day long they just find funny all day long they look for certain hashtags meme factories are what they're called

36:44yeah yeah and there's some people like you know that have made some funny ones all their own you know a lot of people that are just doing that all i know dalia has done a bunch of them and then there's also one that they do where they steal people's act and make a meme out of it and then post that on their page that's where it gets even more slippery because you're talking about like stand-ups acts that in you you're making money off it how much are they making off each post i mean i don't know but these are multi-million dollar businesses and the punch lines so now you're you have this 10 minute joke that everyone knows the punchline because they saw it on facebook that's like like spoiler alert come on for sure if you're still doing that material like if it wasn't on netflix or a comedy central special or something for sure that sucks i guess it's always happened though

37:28hasn't it tv shows have been uh accused of stealing uh oh they have stolen it's happened on dude they did it to kevin james i saw it happen kevin james was at the uh he had a development deal for nbc back in the disney back when we were young pups both of us were like 27 or some maybe he's a little older than that maybe he's actually that was like during the news radio day so we're probably like in our 30s um and he had this development deal nice development deal they're paying them a lot of a lot of cash a lot of paper and they were setting up a sitcom around him so they had him do a set at a theater in hollywood and uh i was there and he does this set and there's all these writers from various sitcoms and the very next season one of his best jokes is on an episode of a television show that's very popular very popular yeah yeah yeah yeah and uh they stole his bit

38:29man i guess that's where i was going because that was in the 90s so like we're now 20 20 25 years later the new popular medium is instagram and social media yeah how different is that well it's different because there's accountability now because now people know that if you wrote a meme and you put it up on your site and then jerry comes along and steals your and doesn't credit you for it just puts it up there you know what they did unless someone sent it to them and didn't attribute it to you which is possible but it seems much more um likely that what they're doing they were doing on purpose for the longest time and they just did they thought that's what you could do on the internet it's a wild west you could just take memes and you could become famous and look that fat jewish guy did it i mean that guy became famous whether you uh agree with his methods or not

39:17it worked he he's got his crazy hair he shows you you know like he's this crazy looking guy and he has all these funny memes that somebody else wrote and they're all up on his instagram page and it worked and people don't like him now there's a lot of people that don't like him people get real shitty with him in person they don't want him doing appearances they know what he did so there's a certain number of people that go hey man you're a thief like this is not cool like what you did is not cool but then there's certain people that don't care and then there's certain people that think well what he did was just what anybody did back then it was the wild west no one thought about it and once he established that business model and it was effective it was probably very hard for him to slow it down or to attribute things to people or to admit that he didn't do it for all that

40:03amount of time it just bugs me that companies pay these guys knowing that they do this or like as a fat jew he's like see he's like signed with caa who's signed with a bunch of comedians that he probably took you know they're taken from the same basket so it's like it is weird right yeah now if he was going on stage and doing their acts he's been doing appearances right he's got a book he's been on tv shows well i don't know what's happening i don't know what he's doing i don't know what he's doing but maybe he's showing him that but he's look he's obviously used it for profit he's figured out a way to profit it's weird he must be weirded out by this jerry thing too because he might be must be sitting there going okay all right here you guys gonna leave me alone it's um you know comedy central was advertising on the jerry page which is like jesus folks i didn't know

40:55that yeah it was like jesus folks can i just hit you guys down let's go over a little history or comedy well i mean mind them and see it they didn't learn then either you know well that was while it was happening though yeah they they did learn eventually they'd let it go eventually but that was also because the ratings had dropped through the floor you know comedy's not easy to make up you know especially like meme kind of comedy that's done by folks that are working in offices meme kind of comedy is some of the funniest comedy on earth and it's done by regular people it's not like a it's not like most memes are written by high-level satirists that work for the new yorker no they're regular folks who think something's funny you know i think what's going to happen is this technology improves the like being able to scan a photo and go well we could tell the first time this

41:51was ever put on the internet was from this little girl she took a photo of it has all the data in the picture and it's now used on this meme that's making this much money and this is going to be kind of broken down like uh you know any kind of artist yeah i guess i mean that's the idea for the argument for the blockchain getting involved in here because you can tie you can i guess it can be in the data in the bits now let me ask you this what if someone uses a picture of uh your band say you have a band they use a picture of your band and they have a funny meme under the picture of your band who owns that then that's right like i think beyonce tried to get that picture taken off the internet from her from the super bowl a couple years ago because it was like a bad picture she didn't like how she looked in it that's hilarious how the does that lady take a bad picture

42:37and she doesn't she needs to talk to her yeah you go listen it's good it's not your best but you look great like if that was on tinder you know you wouldn't be on yeah it's like did they who if someone was paying for that meme should beyonce get some of the money or that's that's the question you would have with like a corporation right which should someone be able to grab photos that are out in the public domain make something with it and then profiting that's the way that's there's been a lot of bands i'm sure that's why i said bands because they're like really good at protecting copyright and their logo and if you had like the kiss band logo you don't think gene simmons would come at you he's coming at you with some lawyers 100 percent right that's just what he's gonna do but it's who owns those photos if it's like gene simmons like spitting fire out

43:23and i think if you took the photo and the cameras were allowed inside the event you took it that's right but it's phenomenal what the case is though most of the photographs are people that are putting they're just putting them up online and someone takes it like say if you gene simmons spit in fire and it has a joke about eating a hooker's or something like whatever it is like feel it make something funny there but if that's online and that becomes this giant meme that gets all these likes and that somehow another someone pro how the do you profit from you from instagram you don't profit from individual posts but those individual posts will boost your signal yeah some posts are profited instagram yeah yeah you have to say ad on it right it has to say sponsored post right yeah well legally it's supposed to but i'd probably say 90 of them aren't right a lot of people don't right especially

44:15if it's like instagram i think you can get away with it oh yeah instagram model is talking about tea i know this is fst yeah it's uh that the instagram model is a hilarious position it really is it's a powerful position yeah it's hilarious though it's it's amazing how many of them there are and they make money you know it's smart it's amazing how butts are such a big thing now yeah and like when i was a kid that no one cared about butts it was big but you're like ooh lose some weight yeah we talked about this before yeah i think you and i did it was where i said sir mix-a-lot changed the game yeah everybody's like what oh you like big butts hey i kind of do too yeah it's like for whatever reason it wasn't even an issue like back then girls would have giant fake boobs and tiny flat butts and they were perfect my grandmother would have millions of instagram model hits

45:08fat bottom girls was before that slightly but no one really it didn't catch on right you make the rocking world go round that's a great goddamn song i didn't see bohemian rhapsody did you did you see it i heard it wasn't that good what the are you guys talking about i heard it was amazing did you yeah i did i'm a giant queen fan though i love them that's my uh my number one cryogenic song when i'm in the crowd chamber is dragon attack because you gotta move around when you're in that 240 degrees below zero it's hard to just sit still do a little dancing in there i'd read it uh he did a raimi malek i think is the actor's name that played him freddie mercury he did a really good job but before it happened sasha baron cohen was sort of in talks for it but he wanted to take the character in a different direction that no one was really comfortable with i see i would have rather have seen that

45:57no man what would he have done what was that what does that mean no i don't know see that's a weird thing man you can't because it's been said too that to get spicy talk but you can't just add stuff my wife yeah you can't just it's not an art piece like bohemian rhapsody although it is an art piece it's a documentary of a guy's life like in some ways you're documenting it right like it's supposed to be his life you can't make up things that never really happened or i forget what it's like it's the difference between like a biopic and an actual biography or a documentary like well what is the difference you're making a hollywood movie right but what is the difference in terms of the story creative i think creative control like like being creative with something like we know this event happened and this event happened the day before and in the middle what would happen

46:46where one one is knowing only the fact that the fox catcher versus a documentary about mark schultz like there are parts in there that you specifically know yes are we with for no realistic sake well not just the parts that i know but i didn't even talk to mark about the movie um but there was a bunch of parts that i think he was furious about where it made it look like they were doing blow and maybe doing some gay stuff it looked it was a it was a there's a lot of weird scenes that things were implied or just seemed odd like how do you know this happened unless mark told you and so and mark was furious at the end uh after it was released and then on top of that i like the big one was that they changed his opponent when he fought in the ufc they gave him a russian guy when he in fact fought big daddy goodrich who's uh a legend like big daddy goodrich is an mma legend

47:35he was a pioneer he was in the early ufc's the giant yoked black dude with the ghee i mean he he would fight with the gion he has one of the most brutal knockouts in the history of the sport where he fought this wrestler paul herrera and paul took him down and they got into a position where uh big daddy goodrich was lying on him sideways and he elbowed him in the face like 10 times in the course of like three seconds and it's so horrific you're watching his head just bounce off before they stop the fight it's brutal like one of the most brutal kales you'll ever see in your life so this guy wasn't just a regular guy like you just substitute them out and make the guy's name tom instead of bob no it was big daddy goodrich that's who mark schultz fought when he fought in the ufc watch this watch this boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom i mean that guy is correct

48:36out and his arms are trapped and his legs are trapped big daddy's got him in like a uh like a crucifix position and it's from paul trying to take him down i mean that was uh so that guy big daddy goodrich is a he's a famous fighter it's not like they took some nobody and removed him from the movie and changed the name of someone where it was didn't really matter it was a historical event in mma that's the reason you think no one knows some crazy producer i think you should fight a russian guy because this is we're in the cold war again baby i don't know you putin i don't know how you feel about politics well some producer just wanted a jizz on the soup some writer just wanted to cup his own balls and squirt one off into the stew that's probably what happened yeah i don't know the screenplay to make it to watch better who knows the only other thing that makes sense is maybe they

49:28would have had to pay daddy goodrich right and they didn't want to pay him maybe i don't know that makes sense that makes sense i mean like mike tyson you know he uh he had that video game a long time ago with nintendo and they had to pay him to use mike tyson's punch punch out yeah and then after like a couple years he was like i'm done with this and then so now then it was just called punch out it wasn't even mike tyson in the game anymore they'd like take it off some new dude yeah just yeah have you done the uh vr boxing game yet i haven't done the vr boxing game but but it looks cool like the rocky one is that what it is there's a whole bunch of a whole bunch of them dude they're amazing yeah it's great like a regular boxing game you're playing on tv is so stupid i mean they're fun but in comparison to a vr game in a vr game you're boxing right you're you see your hands in front

50:15of you the guy's throwing jabs you're slipping you're like standing in front of him you can catch punches with your hands you can throw shots to the body it's crazy you get tired doing it like you could really get a workout doing it it's amazing i know this is it right here this is what you would say that's the new rocky one they just updated oh jesus mr t is in it or is it just random guy with mohawk well that's clever lang but look look how jacked everybody is imagine if people were really that jacked i mean this is so what is that drago and he's fighting there's drago versus rocky yeah but we can't see you want to see what it looks like from your eyes and this is a um that's a regular video game or that is a virtual reality this is just the teaser they showed i guess i was looking for the updated uh yeah you want to see what it looks like when you've got those gloves in front of

51:05you have you tried vr pull yet no no no i like regular pool vr is so great i love it i just need to uh get it out of my living room it's just too much for my living there's things you couldn't do with vr pool that you need to understand if you're actually playing pool with real pool you need friction wow this looks great it's crazy look how good that looks this looks a little bit of haptic feedback for this to get yeah maybe the next step to look how he's using his hands to block too that's crazy the thing is man when when someone's swinging on you when this fake person in front of his friend it's nerve-wracking you think you're going to get hit and when you do get hit and you see red or you see white rather look he just killed him it's funny watching the guy it's pretty amazing how vr really gets immersive like like the was it resident evil video game i mean that's scary as

52:00you really think zombies are coming after you yeah you really do you know that game the thing about that game though it doesn't necessarily this boxing thing does not necessarily reward perfect technique you just you could kind of just do this and just do that so you'd have to like be if you wanted to use it as a workout you'd have to actually be disciplined and use good technique what you should probably do is put gloves on put some velcro gloves on and put the the little hand thing in the glove get closer they're about in the next year or two you could just duct tape it year or two it would be in the glove yeah itself yeah there's actually a i think it's called the knuckle controller is the next version of the vive controller it fits around your hand like a glove it's not it doesn't it just goes around your knuckles kind of right you don't have to grab sort of the same way right

52:44yeah because um when you have your hands this way like uh with thumbs up thumbs up shows the gloves like this on the screen for some strange reason so when you're throwing punches it doesn't look right they need to change that but other because they it's like they want you to just do this but that's freaking me out but when you're actually doing it though if it looked like your hands in the same position as your hands it would be a worthwhile way to learn like a guy like freddie roach could literally do a game where he showed you all right i wanna see the jab and like right here right here right pop and then here comes the hook duck under and then go to the body go to the head and you could do that and do drills with the guy and actually you could pick up real skills in a vr game especially with boxing boxing particularly kickboxing maybe a little less because

53:37you're moving your legs you're not just moving your hands like you'd have to have some sort of sensors on your legs so i could know what you're doing to make sure you're not showing bad technique like your knee might be down or you might be doing something funky but if you have boxing those two things are just like gloves all you need to learn is all the other things you need to learn how to punch and how to move around but you can effectively with just holding on to those things you're staying in the same position that you would be if you were really boxing and you can move around the ring too like it's a it's an area like the size of this desk maybe like a little bit more so it's not like you're in one place and you don't have footwork you could actually develop footwork too so they could have like vasily lomachenko doing like footwill drills footwork drills rather

54:20where you would learn on a virtual reality thing where to step that'd be badass all that stuff would that you could learn some from those things i like how the the vr is going like there's amusement park or uh buildings now kind of like chuck e cheese where it's just vr rides now where he's like oh you're parachuting or you're on a roller coaster and stuff i like how they're doing that now a lot like a lot of malls have that now yeah yeah i've done those i've done the like little spaceship ones too when you roll a dune buggy around on the surface of the moon have you done the star wars one in vegas yet i guess you actually have like five people in your group that you can see in the game and there's like uh you know have you played they have it at the glendale galleria they do yeah dude the dopest one they have is that the disneyland it's the same disneyland village but the

55:07disneyland village one is there's a star star wars one and then there's also a wreck-it ralph one the wreck-it ralph one is amazing is it the same company yeah that's it same place so they have uh the star wars one sometimes so they'll have like one game set up for like a couple of weeks and then they'll have the other game dude we went to disneyland and that was the dopest thing at disneyland really yes by far amazing dude you wear the suit okay so you have this vest on so you're feeling when you get hit you feel in your chest you feel heat they have places where you walk through and it's like lava below you you feel heat the star wars one when you're getting shot you feel it in your chest no you pick a gun up off the wall and you've got like storm trooper arms you see you're holding the gun in front of you it's crazy awesome i didn't know that was in

55:57glendale dude they're getting so good but still you still are super aware that you're in a game right for now but this you know go from pong to what's the best red dead redemption that's probably the best graphics i mean insane graphics that's what is that 30 years 30 years they went to that these virtual reality games 10 years from now are going to be insane no one's going to want to be in regular life regular life is going to suck yeah there's not going to be a disneyland or disney world anymore it's just gonna be vr it'll still be there but you'll be able to get on every ride yeah i haven't watched this myself yet but the nba makes uh viewing and vr available now whoa so they have a whole it's not every game but it's like once a week they have a particular game you can you can log in and watch they could they change the cameras a little bit i don't think it's perfect yet holy

56:51it's very cool though dude how about watching this on the floor yeah you're on the floor and they'll they'll move you around so you can see you're in the footage too and i think they have a separate announcing team so they're they're talking about what you're seeing versus like listening to the normal tv oh wow it's quite not there yet we filmed a couple episodes of kill tony in vr and we had some of the top of the line cameras for it and it still wasn't there yet it was more hassle than it was worth this seems like something that would be amazing for the ufc though oh yeah i mean this would be amazing you basically have your view yeah except the cage the cage would be in the way but there's got to be a way that they could film through the cage if they just had a camera in a reinforced position where it was far enough back behind foam that there's no way

57:41um it could interfere if someone crashed into it but yet close enough that it could see through an actual hole you could get the entire octagon if you did it with several several different ones of those they had or they had it at least that like it was great this isn't it i guess it was a ground level i think they called it the phantom cam but maybe it had a different name it was vr it wasn't vr know the ufc's use it a few times they always try out things they're very experimental they don't always show everything they're trying out though but problem with it may be cool to try maybe one time ideally you'd want it right in the middle like not above or two below and it would have to have cause it has cameras all around it so you know that that was that's hard to do with the cameras i guess uh without getting in the way of everything yeah you would have to uh you'd have to

58:34find a good spot for it put it on uh bruce buffer's head and let him just go to town well they used to do that with pride pride used to have like they would wear glasses with like uh cameras next to the glasses and you'd get the referee vision yeah it was crazy it's kind of cool separating fighters and breaking it up and and waving the fight off yeah that's kind of cool yeah it's pretty badass yeah it's weird here it is it's uh i guess it's this little t marshall cam is what it's called pov cam that shit's pointed at me man sometimes yeah there's one like that that's pointed at me oh yeah i guess you're right i have seen that there yeah that's they use that sometimes when uh you know when we go crazy when we jump up with a fight's happening i didn't know it was even i didn't know that's what they did it for until one day i saw it online i go oh that makes sense

59:22that's a smart thing to do because sometimes we do get animated there's been several fights where me anik and and dc or dominic cruz were all standing up like well while like at the end like amanda nunes when amanda nunes knocked out chris cyborg we just we were like what up yeah like your whole body's like jesus what the did i just see sometimes you just can't sit down you just your your body's just like god damn it it just goes you don't you're not even trying to control it you just let it go when you see somebody do something insane like there's some wild crazy francis and gano knocking out alistair overeem type punch yeah yeah it's me and dominic and johnny and annex up and i'm leaning back it's a crazy job man it's a crazy job so that was the the moment and you see the one below it see that go back to that see that one below it where i'm staring at the camera in the upper right

60:25no that one there that was a video taken by john wayne parr john wayne parr who is a multiple time world muay thai champion a friend of mine a great guy who lives in australia was there at the fights in australia when holly holm knocked out ronda rousey and he filmed holly holm head kicking ronda rousey and then turns to me and i turned to him and i was like what the just happened i was like whoa whoa but when you see it like in that moment when you see when you see something that is that nuts in that moment you're like i can't even believe what i saw like that was me like i looked at him and he looked at me and we're like whoa dude that was crazy there's no sport like that some sports just you know they just have this uh this moment where everybody gets a jolt of a drug you know everybody just gets this you mean that didn't happen last night at the super bowl for you

61:32i left before it ended i was at a friend's party i went to a super bowl party it was fun the lowest feud won in the last 10 years are you serious yeah but not by a lot but yeah it's because they knew that that handsome man was going to take his shirt off what's his name adam levine this beautiful man nipples or everyone's talking about his nipples now he has nice brown nipples but then you're like janet jackson like the big brother that was crazy why is he allowed to show his nipples he showed both this is sex is and his dick root this is oh my god he had dick root showing that is he just wanted everybody to know he's got beautiful tattoos and a fairly good body yeah doesn't literally does a lot of squats though right that's what's interesting he's around like the greatest super athletes in the known universe actually looks pretty good right there well for today he was

62:21yeah he's pretty good look at this i mean he's not always around the greatest super athletes right no no yeah yeah um yeah he looks pretty good he looks like he's in good shape happy to take his shirt off with his california stomach tattoo but the point being um that guy's around freaks he's around six foot five 290 pound super athletes who could jump over his head they literally could run through a hundred of him like they were paper walls just that's what he's around he's around the super bowl the greatest physical specimens in the known universe he takes his shirt off like hey i'm here too they had an event set up over the weekend uh so people could test their 40 speed uh up against other nfl times whatever they had like that's hilarious usain bolt did it in this in his shoes like they said street shoes whatever but he didn't have cleats on he tied the fastest ever nfl 40.

63:20yeah he probably did it with a full stomach he probably just ate drank a couple of beers it i'll show these what's up yeah it's just it was weird like watching on tv this dude with a shirt off you know like like oh this is a different thing now now this is like a sexy concert yeah before it was like a football that's that's what i think he's getting for because he didn't need to take his shirt off right you know he he had his shirt on and then like after the second song he's like you know what let's get sexy in the super bowl you know that no no but i mean why else would he take off his shirt i mean at least make it hashtag sexy in the super bowl let's get sexy up in this well he's a sexy man you can't don't be hating beautiful man yeah i mean but but that's the whole thing your your audience is a bunch of guys you know with a jacket sorry well it was

64:11cold out at first but then he started warm up a sweat yeah never trust white men with necklaces that's my my message more than one no no he's got the little necklaces and the bracelets for the falcons to land on wait a minute those are spiritual necklaces if you have wooden beads for whatever reason that makes you spiritual that hemp or gold i can't even tell they're allowed to wear wooden necklaces because like people go oh you're like really into organic stuff you're really into macro but that's gold is that that's like the other one's just weird lighting i i i can't wear necklaces man it bugs me did you ever wear necklaces i've worn necklaces sure yeah it's never been a staple but it's a it's it's a weird thing first of all if it's if it's big enough it's like this target right if you have like a bill gold necklace people want to steal it all right there's a lot of necklace

65:01snatchers out there brian i don't know if you know that yeah but then the other thing is uh like what are you doing what are you doing with that big old shiny thing around your neck what are you doing what are you a chick i remember in the 90s chokers were a thing and i used to wear a choker how gross is that like a dog choker just a really tight necklace yeah hemp necklaces oh yeah those with a little bead yeah the bead at the bottom the beads critical gotta have the bead yeah multi colored bead make it look like you're cool yeah like it's weird like with like some guys will wear like little anklets with like beads and they tie them off and they'll walk around barefoot and you're like okay huh well it's kind of like that look that you're not a shop look where you have like the really tight like your pants go up so you can see your socks you know you show a little leg

65:51you know why they do that why sneakers those guys show off the sneakers full sn that's what shop told me do you do that jimmy yeah that's what my my pants have that actually for you god you do why why that's how the pants are made ah that's funny that's how the pants are made yeah that's why you don't buy those pants man then you're not buying pants where do you buy your pants what lady store do you bought you buy it at coaching you buy those pants oh gosh that's hilarious you don't do that dude no how dare you how dare you i have a pair of uh very comfortable under armour running shoes on how are you comfortable oh your new shoes the other day um they're a little too tight for me okay they bind my feet a tad bit when i got to the store i had to swap them out for uh i had a pair of uh converse all-stars which are my go-to you got yeezys right jamie gave me a

66:39pair of yeezys about a year ago and he just wore them he was keeping them on ice undead socked them is that what it's called dead stock dead stock dead stock oh do you know what dead naming is do you know what dead name is is that a shoot thing no no it's a new thing that's illegal on twitter this is something i wish i knew i didn't know until after the podcast but dead naming is uh it's banned so say if you decide tomorrow to become a woman and you're like i'm not no longer brian i'm brian ena and i'm going to like brianna that's what your if you thought it was force okay so i'd be like uh okay brianna but you're still a man and then boom that's dead naming you can't call someone something other than their preferred gender so like if they identify as a woman but they're biologically male you're not allowed to say they're biologically male wow you're not allowed to call them a man

67:37because that's dead naming you're not allowed to call them like you couldn't call caitlyn jenner bruce if you called her bruce you would be dead naming her but that's just like that's not illegal or i mean like from twitter oh it's a twitter rule it is a new please pull that up i did not know this i did not know this i searched it it's been around for a while but i'm checking the twitter that's kind of weird dead name has been banned for a while or no no term has been around i just found out about the term maybe a couple weeks ago i'd heard the term for the first time somebody wrote dead naming and i was like what what is that and then i had to look it up so ridiculous all the new rules we have dude there's a article there's an article that i was reading go ahead i'm looking right at their terms of service it's directly word for word in there okay where does it say that okay

68:28dead naming of transgender individuals repeated or non-consensual slurs epithets racist and sexist tropes or other content that degrades someone okay well hold on a second like what does degrade someone so if you if you contact me and say hey bro you're short you're not funny that's degrading yeah like is that not loud that's crazy you have to you have to have that be allowed we prohib targeting individuals with repeated slurs tropes or other content that it tends to dehumanize degrade or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category see that's where it comes from like white people are not protected this includes targeted misgendering or dead naming of transgen transgender individuals i love how they just went with this is a giant corporation and they just went with some new word that's only been around for like a month how long has dead naming been around for

69:32the urban dictionary had it in there from 2014. unbelievable never even heard that they're on the ball i'll tell you that but yes urbans they stay ahead twitter still allows goat seas and and all the porn you want which is interesting to me yeah well yeah i love that uh that's just hilarious i love that that's all i i love the i still love the chaos of it all i love the fact that they're trying to sort everything out i just think it's the whole thing is crazy it's so bizarre that like they're trying to in that sense with that like that's so vague to dehumanize or degrade well every joke about someone every joke about trump every single joke about trump that every single comedian and or commentator and or person makes is in some way degrading when you talk about how stupid he is like rob reiner had a joke about him called him a piece of or called him a piece of crap

70:31yesterday and said he couldn't believe how dumb he is trump talking about hillary though he's doing it to him 100 100 100 so that's so vague yeah that's so vague and dead naming naming's not a real word so like how are they using fake words in this i can't think they're trying to say it is now it is a real real word yeah man i don't know if your name used to be bruce and you change it to caitlyn i can't say that that seems bananas that seems bananas so like if you're with somebody say somebody became a woman and is still an i you can't call him mike you know hey mike look i i'm sure you're bitter about this whole changing your sex thing you can't bring that up but uh you're still an annoying guy you just don't have your dick anymore bye like if someone says that they can't say that why can't they say that they should that's to me stupid well well i'm not saying

71:33but that's hurtful i guess to transgender people sure and that's considered hate right speech or hate whatever but only but only when it comes to like gender right like if you could you could tell someone hey you're short and fat and stupid and they don't no one cares true right you could say you uh you're ugly as your nose is disgusting what happens there is that the same way is that the same thing it might be if you do it repeatedly right if you just do it once you just throw one out there probably okay probably one time you could on someone's looks get one but it's like what like deciding what you can and on someone for like what i'm saying is someone's an and they're like here's a perfect one that woman who used to be a man she's a transgender woman who was in a store screaming at this kid behind the counter that it's ma'am it's ma'am this is the perfect example

72:34of that the guy was terrified she's huge and she used to be a guy and clearly still looks like a guy and she's saying it's ma'am like you you better knock some over and she got violence yeah in that situation you you're telling me that it's not cool to say how about you settle the down because you look like a guy you're acting like a violent guy and you used to be a guy pardon me if i think you're still a guy that's dead naming but that's a good thing to say in that particular instance so without nuance right without context it's saying you can't say anything to degrade someone well clearly that would degrade that guy but if that guy was saying that kid he did it on purpose on twitter you're saying someone can't respond hey man i'm sure you're really upset that you got your dick removed and you still look like a guy but you like why can't someone say that because that's people

73:30communicating how they feel about you being a dick like if you start out being a dick and then they communicate about you being a dick by being a dick as well are we banning this they're probably just covering their butts it's probably not you know what like kind of like jamie said it's dangerous it in a lot of ways it's dangerous to control people's thoughts and behavior because who are you to say and when does it end you know it just keeps going and going and going and going it gets it gets very slippery when you have one group that thinks it's right and they're trying to control another group that thinks they're right man that is uh it's it seems so simple when you just talk about dead naming transgender people or not degrading people based on their looks or their ethnicity or this or that but what you're doing is you're trying to dictate how humans

74:16communicate with each other and people don't like it when you tell them what to do the problem with telling people what to do is they want to do the exact opposite this is one of the first things you realize when you have kids like oh they don't want to listen to me like i gotta figure out a way to sneak information into them you know or you gotta you gotta figure out a way to not be too bossy people don't want someone telling them what to do this is what i missed when i was edit headed into that conversation i missed how other people looked at that guy and what he stands for i don't think it's correct i think it's way more complicated i think it's an insane business to run and i don't i don't think he really knew why alex jones was banned or why anybody else was banned i don't think he really knew i think he's dealing with a giant corporation and he's a young guy

75:02and he wears sandals wait wait what kind of sandals there's some weird ones like that nice guy thank you bro let's just choose he runs a couple different companies he's not yes he's not sitting at twitter that's another thing that alex jones brought up today that uh he sponsors the podcast through the the cash app which is also he also runs it's 100 true but i would have and i think we talked about it on the podcast we even talked about the cash app being a sponsor and about how it's helped justin wren's fight for the forgotten charity so alex jones erroneously said that i didn't mention it so we did mention it it's worth mentioning and alex jones is uh he having to like respond to people that want to know if i've seen what alex jones has said about me lately is one of the weirdest things that i've dealt with because first of all i've always had good dealings with alex

75:58in person person to person but he's obviously in a world of right now there's a lot going on with him with this sandy hook stuff and he wasn't entirely honest with me about what he had said about sandy hook maybe he didn't remember maybe uh he was trying to phrase it in a way other than the way i interpreted it when i saw the videos but there's a media matters video that shows all the time where he said that sandy hook was fake this is very complicated to me this is one of the reasons why i struggled with bringing him back on the podcast that's very complicated it's that is even though i'm i've known the guy since 1998 and if i'm around him i'd say that's my friend alex jones he's a friend he's off he obviously did something up and the parents that had to deal with what he did there's parents that had to deal with people calling them a crisis actor they had to deal with people harassing

76:55them at the courthouse and harassing them if they met them in public because they were saying that they were lying about their kids being killed so not only their kids being killed but they have to deal with someone harassing them and saying you're a liar and you're an actor it's insanity and i wouldn't i would think about it differently i would definitely think about differently if i wasn't friends with alex but i would also think about it differently if he hadn't made up about me he said that i was told to stop talking about conspiracies or they threaten my family that's a hundred percent horseshit and he has my phone number he could have called me i called him after i heard about it he told me that someone told him that i told i talked to the person who told him that i'm like this is bananas like you're out of your mind call me this is so stupid you think i'm not talking about

77:48whatever fill in the blank whatever ridiculous conspiracy the rothschilds the rockefellers whatever it is i'm not talking about that because the government threatened my family that is wrong it's ridiculous and now you put it out there so alex jones went on afterwards and he apologized and corrected it then recently because i haven't had him on the podcast he decided to start saying that i work for the cia and that i'm uh george soro talking points which i don't even know what these talking points are talking points about him in specific not talking to anybody no one's giving me talking points not george soros that's not what eddie bravo has been saying he got it he got good he got good uh information throughout the year he doesn't even say that so stop joey diaz did with eddie for a while though but but the point being the point being alex if you're out there

78:43i still like you as a person if i saw you i'd still give you a hug but you're making up and this is this is not helping anybody wants to defend you it's not helping me as a person talk about the good qualities in you and you know these things that you're saying are made up you're making up the fact that i'm in the cia you're making up for the fact that the hollywood insiders have given me information and tell me what to say that's not true you know it's not true you know me i don't have time to be a cia insider i can't take on another job between doing stand-up and podcasts and ufc commentators running a family i can't do it i wouldn't do it i'm not interested i'd rather stop doing everything than work for any government organization no one's ever approached me no one's ever approached anybody i've ever heard of i don't even know if that really happens i don't know if that's a real thing

79:39the thing is they always say is that the cia would talk to the people in hollywood and tell them what to say in terms of propaganda maybe i don't know i don't have any personal knowledge of it i'm sure someone has decided that if they're gonna make a movie about like uh zero dark 30 that they have to get some sort of approval and i'm sure that a lot of movies that are very inspirational that have to do with the military would be great for recruitment so i'm sure there's some involvement i'm sure there's also some patriots that work in show business that want to put out these movies about the government and about the military in a very positive way that's probably the case in some instances too but not everything's a conspiracy and this is why it's stupid and why it's stupid is some things are a conspiracy and alex jones has talked about some things that were real conspiracies that 9 11

80:32documentary the road to tyranny details the world trade organization protest where they sent in these agent provocateurs that which are essentially soldiers they send in soldiers and military dressed up and all black and cover their face and they smash windows and tip over things and they take a peaceful protest and they turn it violent so then the police can move in and shut down the protest and then not only did they do that but they made a no protest zone in the united states of america a no protest zone was it the united states of america it wasn't vancouver was it was seattle i think i thought it was vancouver no i think it's seattle world trade organization protests you're talking about the boots and they all have the same shoes yeah that but alex detailed this in detail and it was real when he makes things up like there was one recently the david pakman show had on

81:25about uh alex talking about people eating babies pituitary glands and scattered vandalism in downtown seattle yeah seattle so they enforce a no protest zone that was in 2009 in 1999 rather was it 99 yeah december 1st 1999 the october 27 2009 was the article um yeah alex did that that was real that was legit and and it was very informative because i didn't know that that is how the government operated sometimes did you contact him the second time and go i sent him a text message this is why i won't talk to you you say crazy stupid like this but it i don't hate the guy he's you know he'll scream and yell and call me a demon he's not in a good place you're not in a good place when you're defending against that and what all these other conspiracies like it's all fun and games until you're talking about people's kids getting murdered and then all of a sudden people are like

82:19you and that's basically what happened with him if he was just ranting about government conspiracies or you know who shot this guy or who's stealing money from here some of what he talks about is beneficial but alex is not i don't think he's in a good place i don't think he's in a good place mentally and i don't think he's in a good place in terms of his situation with the law i don't hate you alex jones if you listen to this if i saw you i'd still give you a hug i'll still even do your show when i come to austin i don't care you can we can come and hang out but just stop making up it's silly and you know i'm sorry if there's bad stuff between us i'm more sorry of what you said about those kids i'm sorry about everything i'm it's it's unfortunate it's all terrible now something like that what's the road to redemption for someone like that because some this the thing about people is

83:16and i think this is also what's going on with alex people need a road to redemption like if if someone up horribly and does something terrible should that be the end of them this idea that we don't need them anymore no matter who it is i mean what what does a person have to do to grow and learn and for for people just accept them again and let them on to all platforms again what what what does a person have to do it's a real good question i think it's per person though like somebody like alex just seems like he's getting worse and worse like this seems like what he did to just you is he's doing it to me because he's mad at me because i haven't had him on yeah but he i'm sure he asked you or if he was in town i'm sure no no you're not listening i said i didn't want to have him on i was trying to figure out whether i would have him on but when i watched the media matters video

84:12it was very clear to me he wasn't being on i asked him if he had said that it was fake and he said he questioned whether or not it was real but then eventually he acknowledged that it was real which he has done but there was many times where he said it was fake not one many times it's absolutely fake it was 100 fake there's video of it i didn't see the video before we did our 911 podcast i've seen it now and i still thought about having him on i still thought about talking to him about it and and talking to him about all this and what it's like i think it's he plays a character honestly i don't think so i mean with the reptile guys and people the things that he says none of it half of it's just like what the are you talking about i think he he definitely goes goes crazy with some things but i don't think he's doing well um but he was talking about eating babies

85:03pituitary glands see if you found a david pakman video david pakman who's a progressive uh commentator online he he was going look something's wrong with him like he's playing this video like what he's talking about then breaking into morgue what is happening alex jones yeah see if you can find the part on the video where alex is talking it's early on sounds like schizophrenia it sounds like any episode of live pd or cops you know and people are talking like i saw aliens upstairs in my house you know like the other guy owen benjamin look at him see you play this place real quick it's all in plain view of these people they're just putting it in their face and they want a system where we can't do anything to stop them that's like bill maher the name of his production company is uh kid love which is you know this is enamel slogan basically then he makes jokes about having sex

85:54with kids all the time and says it's okay to have sex with you know kids that have sex with 35 year olds when they're 12. just incredibly outrageous evil pathetic stuff of these soulless demons like bill maher but uh josh was saying he had a theory dealing with what walnut sauce is and are you gonna say it's the pituitary gland because they confirm that jimmy savelle and others would uh torture little kids to death but if they couldn't get regular ones to kill their favorite thing was to grab a kid run over the cars they could say oh there's a police report they run over but they would hurry to the morgue and they work with different different government control morgues and eat the pituitary gland as quickly as possible uh and and get high off of it so yes yeah okay okay that's yeah that's first of all bill maher is not a pedophile this is this is crazy this is like a weird rambling

86:52and this is not alex that i knew from 1998. it's just not it's not the same guy this is a guy's not doing well so my apology um as a human being to alex jones if uh you were hurt that i didn't have you back on the show if you were hurt that i occasionally poke fun at you i have to you're hilarious unfortunately but uh i don't hate you i don't wish you wish you badly and uh back in the day i enjoyed a lot of your stuff people lose their way you know so i think that um it's a real bad feeling being stuck on the outside too when they all band together and kick you out and everybody kicks you out everybody twitter and facebook and everybody and youtube and twitter was the last one but uh that was jack dorsey didn't even know why alex jones got kicked off of twitter and people like well let him back in then again but somebody knows like somebody like i don't think jack dorsey is really

87:58the guy who's looking at each individual person that gets banned i just have a feeling that that stuff is compartmentalized right seven million monthly active users on there right but how many people are um responsible for banning people and real high-profile people i don't know i'm sure there's a whole like maybe 12 people they have to have a meeting then they you know maybe they talk to jack maybe they don't maybe they they it's a position who yeah right maybe he doesn't we don't know i'll ask that for sure but maybe he didn't know when people got banned until he like maybe got a company memo maybe he wasn't involved in the of course maybe i don't know maybe he's the one who called him up and said get rid of this that's possible too yeah like here's another one right here's one that people had an issue with and one thing you could say okay um like when kathy griffin held up the the

88:52trump head remember that um did she do that on her own twitter account uh yeah she yeah she well i mean she posted a photo of it when she posted she posted on instagram twitter i think it was on both i'm not 100 sure right so that it's a is it allowed it's allowed because it's newsworthy because it's a celebrity and the celebrity is threatening a public figure who's also the most powerful person in the world so it's okay is that why that is i think she posted it because it was an art piece that was kind of controversial oh no no no i know that that's what i'm saying about why i'm saying why is it okay why is she still allowed to be on the platform and alex jones gets kicked off that's a it's an interesting question right like what do you need to do to get kicked off because that's not the only thing that kathy's done recently she was one of the people that was calling for the name for

89:48that young boy who was with that native american in front of his face beating the drum she is crazy irresponsible you know i'm sure she feels bad about it now in retrospect especially if she's watched the video but she got carried away and she thought what we all thought we saw the picture the smirking of a kid that got in the face this beautiful indigenous man is singing his his rain dance cry or whatever the he's doing yeah that's not what it was though we we found out afterwards it was much more complicated what is their song what were they saying sounded cool they should make a record yeah they're chanting do you like that that shit's cool to listen to when you work out if you get like some some legit native american chance like that it puts you into a trance right if you don't know what they're saying you just go running you listen to that take a little couple tokes

90:37go for go for a jog in the woods listen to native american chants on your air pods that was an interesting video though because i mean i was a 180 after just hearing the second side of the story like 12 hours later and people still were calling for that guy's head yeah yeah and people i saw someone who said um what's his name ron perlman no who's the guy who was uh hellboy yeah ron probing ron perlman was like are telling me that uh i'm not seeing what i'm seeing and she said something about some white prick or white i'm like oh okay like people try so hard like you you are seeing what you're seeing yeah you're seeing what you're saying but what you're not seeing is a video that shows how it occurred it's all it is yeah you know so why is that okay right why is that okay why is it okay for some journalists to say horrible things about white people why is that okay why is that okay it

91:35seems weird what if it encourages violence against any innocent white person just one should you be responsible what if they say why did you do that well i read blah blah tweet and i was like you know what i am going to go out and punch a white person that i just found some white old lady and i beat her ass like if someone decides that you're not responsible for that are you probably not but you got to kind of feel like you played a part in the way people look at things especially people that are very easily influenced you know it's just also it's gross you read something really racist against white people like that's gross like you think all all people are like that a whole group of people that don't have as much melanin they're all that's ridiculous you're a ridiculous person i don't care if you're brown or black or yellow you're ridiculous that's silly

92:26so we have to decide it's got to decide like what the we're doing if we keep letting illogical behavior be normal like breaking us off into groups like that and thinking that you know all men are great or all women are great or all gays are great and never all straight cisgendered men can go themselves all right that's that's silly talk i don't care who you are you're not allowed to do that but we let people do that if they're a part of a marginalized class if someone's a part of a marginalized class then you get to on everybody in a weird way you get to like reinforce racism it's really it's so counterproductive too because if you do that then it just makes people just get defensive on the other side they don't want to even think or empathize with how you are whatever bro social media has really made everything annoying hasn't it it has made everything great too though

93:22yeah both dude twitter is like like we're saying when someone says something dumb like trump will say something dumb sometimes and i'll just go there for the memes and i'll just read his post and it'll get me going in the morning i'll get like 15 minutes of ha-has you probably missed this story yesterday have you heard any of the 21 savage news oh you got deported right because everyone found out yesterday that he's apparently from the uk and so like the story there's two stories that is part of the story but memes of him being from the uk and a british rapper that's rosie from atlanta really took over to the fact like demi lovato tweeted it and she got on and she's deleted her twitter now because of the responses did you know who this guy was before no but i'm 51 years old yeah old man number one oh number one record in the like in the country really yeah but jamie's on black twitter

94:10jesus it's just uh jamie's twitter but you're on black twitter sure could be two i am i am i follow a lot of them i don't know any of these like tech nines and sushi fours that takeshi six nine he's maybe what do you mean maybe they're saying he's he's talking a lot he's still he's he's he's going to jail for a long time with a tattoo of six nine on his face he's going to jail he's going to have real problems that ain't good there i mean did you read the list of charges there's murder involved yeah murder conspiracy video of him supposedly calling a hit on someone oh jesus christ oh my god oh he's man yeah even if he cooperates if they put a hit on someone because he said it jesus yeah he'll he won't get like the death penalty but now he'll be like life in prison you know he'll be someone's fleshlight yeah heck yeah yeah it's a real problem soldier boy is in jail too isn't he

95:11for what got arrested i didn't yeah he did what he uh beat up his girl and his girl beated him up no no that was a little bow wow you son of a you just shamed soulja boy for no reason with your shitty potatoed memory wait a second jamie's right i know his little bow wow no there was something else hold on yep he's accused of kidnapping a woman oh kidnapping i'm sorry so you got the stories conflated kidnapping is even worse he tied a girl to a uh a chair using an extension cord and kept her for six or seven hours in his garage whoa yeah oh he's going to jail forever prom would he do that for that's someone's daughter what did you do that for uh jealousy i think it said this is apparently according to celebrity news outlet the woman whose name i will not say apparently was backing out of a driveway and her car hit soldier's la home when she hit the curb

96:04at his house when she hit the curb from that point on his assistant reportedly became upset and started fighting with her from there soulja allegedly stepped outside and tried to break up the fight the woman says that he began punching and kicking her when she was on the ground and then tied her up for six hours oh god soldier boy well at least nintendo one would wish that cooler heads would prevail but that sounds like that sounds like a disaster yeah jesus christ yikes you never hear about the spin doctors causing any problems right guys she hit a curb this all started she heard her did she hit a car with his car or something she curbed one of his wheels wasn't enough information on there i don't know yeah yeah she probably curved one of his wheels probably was a nice car and she didn't know what the she was doing i could drive drop it what a dick tied her up and beat her up that's

96:56jesus christ christ allegedly allegedly right right right you gotta always say that denied by this did you see that video that old man putting the ice on the ground and then pretending he fell oh that's yeah allegedly brilliant allegedly allegedly there's no allegedly led for that it's amazing it's amazing to watch because he didn't know there's a security camera there tried to collect yeah there's a lot of people that do that man i've seen videos of people doing that at the mall they'll throw a drink down and then slide down on the drink we had a guy do it once at a movie theater i worked at and we had it on video also and we just showed him the video and then he left and never heard anything about it but he was bitching at the storm like he was hurt watching the sky this guy's hilarious so he's walking he looks around chuck some ice on the ground a little

97:40bit of an ice there no big deal i'm just going to go over here okay i love his fault watch this he looks around make sure no one's looking oh he even felt like a it's like holding his truck the most ridiculous look at that silly silly silly man the thing about those guys is like anybody that does that kind of i think the cops all they have to do is go sure what's your social security number and then they look up all the that he's also done yeah like you don't that ain't just a little bit of a scam that's a guy's been scamming it's like like in russia and stuff or other countries where everyone's doing the insurance scams and so to the point where everybody has to have dash cams on their car now yeah there's a lot of that right you just triggered a story i heard over the weekend there's a not it's i think this is a story happening in houston where the cops broke into a house where they

98:33had heard that there was there they think they had a warrant uh report was that neighbors had called in black tar heroin sales or something like that at this house so they broke in without knocking it's like a no-knock warrant uh the guy's like 57 in the house hear someone break into his house gets a shotgun shoots one of the cops they kill him his wife is like what the going on she goes to try to grab the other cop's gun that had just fallen she gets shot oh no two people are dead and they didn't find any heroin oh geez there's like some weed in there or something like that uh-oh and so people are like they didn't have a history of doing much from what i remember that's why i thought of it because they looked back with these guys do they have an arrest history or anything and there wasn't anything that they had found at least when i read about it do you remember the one where there was

99:19a mayor outside of washington dc and he uh they were using his house as an address and it was something with the mail delivery guy was running weed and so the mail delivery guy would come by and the package was addressed to him but he would just keep the package because he knew like that this was this guy's house it was on his route and that way you know as the package came in the mail would be his to deliver but instead of delivering it he would hold on to it so they break into the mayor's house no you know the whole soldier shoot his dogs shoot his dog and he had like one of my dogs like marshall she's like a super duper sweet dog either yellow lab which is real similar i think it was a yellow lab it might have been a golden retriever either way they shot at least one of his dogs how'd they not know it was the mayor's house do you think that would be like

100:11like on a list they didn't google or maybe they did or maybe they thought the mayor is a drug dealer yeah maybe they really thought that but that kind of is dark man when you just go shoot a golden retriever come on you're not a and i know you're going in there because you think this is a real drug running operation because the cops just got bad information right but you're not a you don't have to shoot a labrador stop you think that thing's gonna bite you well when it does shoot it then so i'm gonna bite you yeah the out of here that's a weird power trip thing you shoot all dogs no if look if a guy's got a wolf and it's off the chain it's running at you yeah shoot it right but you break into some guy's house and then you shoot his dog what if you're wrong like you are a lot you cool with shooting someone's dog in front of their kids that's what happened to the the mayor of

100:58this town the mayor i bet the guy was the mail carrier just thought it was cute to use the mayor's address get all the weed delivered maybe he didn't maybe he voted for his opponent or he thought it was safer to do it that way oh did you get a tesla are you just driving around oh i got one tell me how how do you like it yeah posterous i had to get one i told elon musk i would get one guy did my podcast i owe him a solid i'm a man of my word uh it's a spaceship it's the weirdest thing i've ever driven in my life it doesn't even make sense it's not even not even there's not a single car that i've ever driven that's even close to as fast nothing like my porsche is so slow i have a gt3 rs it has 518 horsepower it weighs 3000 pounds it sounds like a dragon and that tesla would leave it in the dust i mean leave it in the dust like zero to 62 seconds quicker jesus it's insane taking it out

102:01of uh no ludicrous no yeah i did i put it in chill mode for a little while but you could drive chill with ludicrous mode always available you don't have to keep switching back ludicrous mode is just crazy great like the fastest and then it kills your battery well it kills your battery quicker but the thrust that you get is a roller coaster ride it's insane i mean you can't believe how fast it is it doesn't even it literally doesn't make sense it doesn't seem right it seems like like it's punching its way through a wormhole using alien technology meanwhile i posted it seems like uh something bob lazar snuck out of area 51 i get all these messages from people bob lazar has been debunked that's controlled opposition that's a fake story it's fake news bro they got you with the bob lazar story do you like all the tech in it i mean that's insane it's too much almost

102:51because it's this giant screen like i had to dim it way the down because i was just looking at it like you're so pretty so pretty it's so pretty my dream car it's very comfortable how long super comfortable now do you have a supercharged station at your house yet or do you have a thing on the wall at my house okay that i could plug it into it's not a supercharger it takes like eight hours eight hours or more and how many miles but i'm gonna get one of those i'm gonna get one of those fast charger in the house yeah it goes allegedly and i mean allegedly 311 miles you have the fuel but here's the problem i drive like a so it's not going that far is did you get is there a fuel option for that model like are you cool i mean i think there's a fuel add-on that gives you an extra like oh that you that's an option i thought you meant uh fuel like gasoline yeah

103:37there's a no what are you talking some models not tesla okay you're just making up bro some some uh i forget which car it is electric car for wheels electric cars like you can pay extra for like one gallon of gas so like if you ever lose your battery oh i have heard of that yeah yeah what was that i thought tesla had that no no no no no there was like uh prius priuses are mixed they're hybrids priuses use gasoline but a very stingy amount of gasoline and they run partially on electric motors so do the acura nsx the acura nsx has two electric motors but i think you don't ever charge it i think the electric motors are powered by the gasoline engine and electricity in the car if i remember right that's supposed to be the like the acura nsx is supposed to be the car that people are under look under looking for whatever reason it just doesn't get the the love that it

104:34deserves and apparently the 2019 model is even more insane i can't wait to the day where like your garage floor is like a wireless charging mat you just pull right up into the mat or they never would be because it's rubber well they're i'm sure they'll find a way because like there's a there's there's like if you if you take your phone and put on a wireless charger there's like a little room that if you don't you don't have to touch it like maybe that's the whole reason why you're safe from getting hit by lightning bro yeah like that the rubber protects you from electricity but if you park though a little thing comes down to the ground like a little baby yeah what if that thing falls out while you're driving a little bit flips your car over or like if the streets like if somehow like if you're riding on the highway and if you want to fuel up that you can like fuel

105:15up using the road and like pay like a fee or something right well really ideally it would be great if solar panels had gotten so powerful they could charge it just with the sun especially because southern california is always sunny except for today but it's a matter of time the the car's the future that's what it is it really is look i'm a giant fan of american muscle cars they're my all-time favorite cars in terms of like to drive to hear the rumble of the engine and that i love them i love them maybe i'm some crazy old dude from the 80s that still loves 1960s muscle cars maybe i don't care i love them but that car is the future that tesla's the future like when you drive it you realize oh other cars are stupid is there's that that's that new world crazy rocket thing today is shooting rockets out in his backyard is that his house is there anything that you don't like on

106:08there that or something that kind of bugs you that you wish was like i don't you know i don't like how there's no door handles you know no no no nothing you just got to figure it out it just takes a little while to figure out what all yeah different buttons do and how to how to get things to happen but it's really well thought out it's a look he's a legit genius you know and what he's doing is unprecedented and you know this is going to sound like i'm kissing his ass because i like him because he did the podcast and then i became friends with him but no would he's important the guy's got ideas that are of a magnitude that dummies like you and me are never gonna come up with any of those ideas ever if we lived a thousand lives we would never figure out spacex it's just not in our wheelhouse we would never make a electric car we never make one of those things

106:54never make that tesla roadster that's going to come out that goes zero to 60 in 1.9 seconds and and looks like like a spaceship like a like a race car spaceship from the future we're not doing that dude we need people like that those guys are super important this guy is uh he's like a culture changer like a legit culture changer and he got him to smoke weed jesus he wanted to he's a pad blocker busted so this is the spacex rocket rocket yeah so space what does it say at the top it says uh built a stainless steel rocket ship in texas that looks like liquid silver and might launch in february didn't it what year what day is this uh article um january 11th a couple weeks yeah okay it fell over yeah i know they've been doing stuff more with it but i just how cool it looks it looks like but i mean it fell it fell on the ground while it was standing there

107:56yeah yeah it got blown over the wind it looks like a drawing for a rocket from the 1900s i don't know if he did on purpose but it looks just like a rocket it looks like a movie like buck rogers that's a book rogers rocket you're right it looks dope though rogers dude that driving that car really feels like like the future and did you get the best model or is it what that was of course you did but uh yeah i got the model s p100ds what it's called i just paid off my car i might just sell and get one of those is something i'm so excited you have to have a place to park it that has a little chargeboard yeah i mean i have it in a power outlet oh they could probably convert it yeah yeah yeah i think there's a couple superchargers in burbank yeah there's one across the street but it's always taken i don't know what the you know what's weird man passing by gas stations and going i'm

108:47never going to use you with this yeah i'm never pulling in there unless i want a soda look at that thing that's 0-60 in 1.9 seconds and i'm telling you man that's not an unrealistic number 620 miles yes wait when's this come out a couple years wow it's going to be a while uh i'm going to get one 100 i'll buy your old one this is such a dope car man it doesn't even make why does it not have a side mirror it's got no side mirrors maybe as cameras the rendering of it probably doesn't shut your mouth i tell you god damn side mirror your sons i i love my camera uh cameras on my car i don't even use my side mirrors it's so much better having that look at that thing how much is that 620 mile i don't know probably stupid expensive look how pretty it is it's too pretty to be cheap look how sick that thing looks look at it got it i mean it look it's like the ultimate sports car

109:42like that looks like a that easily could be a new 911. like from that angle particularly and then the roof comes off it looks like gamer seats look at those gamer seats right there oh not only that but well that's what racing seats look like that's why they were racing seats first and then became gamers right but the steering wheel is wonky the steering wheel's like like a f1 like a formula one car see it oh it's like square yeah yeah it's like you grab it by the handles maybe they want to make sure that you don't do this kind of like you this is so fast you probably need to hold on to it in a different way dude i'm telling you that the car that i that i got beautiful i've never experienced anything like that before you don't think it's real you don't think a car can do that it doesn't make any sense wow 245 thousand dollars oh damn chop that chat oh my gosh

110:32that's five well plus the five thousand dollars oh so 50 000. 250. yeah it's probably going to sell out in five seconds too every every in hollywood will have one look at me i'm environmentally conscious but still sexy look at my beads look at my open shirt i went into a vault the other day as an uber and i was amazed by that yeah they're pretty sweet i think that's a hybrid right yeah no no it's all like electric yeah i mean it had like five different cameras and it was pretty sweet did you ask him how long the range is uh yeah it wasn't as good as i think it was like 2 30 i think he said that's not bad though if you're driving around hollywood you could probably get a whole night yeah in you know if you're ubering audi just uh announced theirs yesterday with the super bowl commercial oh it looks nasty i've seen it it looks nasty yeah it looks nasty like jackson nasty or badness

111:22miss jackson it looks like uh i think it's like a different one i'm thinking of the r8 they took this is a different one oh get that out of it look at that stupid grill that actually looks like a regular audi it's what it looks like but uh audi google uh audi electric sports car there's one that doesn't look bad that looks like a stop standard suv that looks pretty good what's the mile on that thing what's the mileage the range the range is everything on these exactly because if it's anything below like 300 miles what does that say 500 back up they're comparing it it's comparing the amount of time you charge it and what it takes to charge to get certain things oh the model is trying to find well model x only does 144 miles and and it does 160 miles that ain't good it's on that on that kind of charger or something like that dude the manufacturer estimate

112:14that ain't good after 30 minutes that's only after 30 minutes oh how much you get in 30 minutes yeah well that's not that's pretty good so you can get 160 miles worth of charge in 30 minutes that's not bad yeah it's a long time though if you got to go somewhere if you're in a rush you can't just pull it and get gas but you don't want the kind of power that would it take i mean can you imagine how many that's it that's that's the audi look at that thing brian yeah i like that i like that better no that's that's the e-tron one so it's basically an audi r8 a next-generation audi r8 go to the yeah and the one yeah that's what it looks like that's a nasty looking car it's a dope electric e-tron but that says 19 that says 2016. this is when they announced it back at like the car shows and whatnot and it's just now coming out it's probably what they're calling see

113:07google see if it actually is a real thing or is it still just a concept because uh they always like there's a lot of those cars they'll disappoint the out of you 279 miles oh so it's a real thing when is it available i wonder when that's coming i said 20 22 right there 20 22. yeah so that's probably the same time the rose just coming out but look how they get your dick card years in advance you could have ordered it in 2015. so rude though oh man so rude to get your dick hard so far in advance yeah you know like if you're like yeah i'm gonna be super environmental but i'm gonna just show everybody what's up i'll be stunting there you go wow right here september do you see the new volkswagen dune buggy that looks pretty fun don't what is that it's uh dune buggy it was just announced uh i'm not sure if when it's for sale or if it's for sale but it looks pretty fun

114:01it's uh it looks like a classic dune buggy but they volkswagened it uh and it has no roof uh but it looks like a little fun car i don't know if there's see a picture of that or not um yeah all right it's a new one yeah so it looks kind of cool right whoa you could drive that on the road yeah so it's a road car but is it still a dune buggy 2025. again you sons of that looks fun well they were supposed to announce the new bronco everybody thought it was going to happen at the detroit auto show oh yeah but it came and happened came and went with no bronco that makes no sense though because it's actually on their website like they were going to announce it soon wasn't it for sale i thought i don't think they said that they were gonna they probably don't have it down you know sometimes when they're working on these experimental vehicles they uh they'll develop something but

115:01then they don't like certain aspects of it or then maybe they're aware of a competitor's work that might come out with more horsepower so they have to like for instance like the um the gt500 from ford uh it was on its way out they were they were gonna put it out the new one but they were saying that it has over 700 horsepower that's a they never say that they always give you the exact specific number they always say 750 horsepower says coming in 2020 their website okay but they didn't they didn't show it i think they're probably gonna make a special day for it that that that might be interesting yeah it's gonna be nasty looking do you see what it looks like yeah it looks cool as do you know how many pictures of it no because right it's the ford website it doesn't have pictures of it because they haven't released it yet right um but uh what was i just saying uh what was i just saying

115:54i said we're talking about what before the bronco the volkswagen beetle the bug oh you were saying uh switch to the bronco yeah i don't remember jamie me uh about how it's getting pushed back because you know somebody who might like this car is faster yeah that's right the shelby the gt500 they they said it's only sev it's over 700 horsepower the reason why they said that is because dodge came out with a demon and then they came out with some other version of the hellcat that's also like 800 horsepower so if you come out with only 700 horsepower it's hard because as ridiculous as that sounds some people gonna think yeah but it's not the zr1 that's got 750 or it's not that this or that so they um they haven't said exactly what the horsepower rating is because they're still trying to juice it up that might be the case of the bronco too they might be trying to

116:50fix things and juice things up but look how good that looks the red with the black stripes good lord i love red and black see that car is a reckless person's car that's the difference between that and like a tesla what's exciting about that car the way it looks that is a ridiculous person's car like if that's what you drive around every day you're a madman you're probably a little tipsy sometimes you drive you know you might smoke cigarettes you definitely smoke cigars you know you probably order shots right that's a ridiculous person it's a fun ass car but yeah keto on weekends look at the the um the transmission not only is it an automatic it's a wheel it's a wheel that you spin to drive like you first of all give me a goddamn stick shift like an american i want to stick shift with the american flag as the boot of the stick shift it's one of the last places on the planet

117:46where you could still get a goddamn stick shift sports car and what does ford do they release the gt500 with an automatic how dare you don't talk to me about paddles well you can shift it manually with the paddles that's not a manual transmission sir that's shifting in with the paddles where's my what's my left foot doing should i pretend how about giving me a fake clutch fake clutch where i can pretend they look dope though look how good that silver one looks it looks sexy silver with the black stripes goddamn that looks the red one with the black stripes too so these come out later this year at the end of the year kind of yeah i think so are they i guess they haven't announced it yet so i don't think they've announced the specific data comes out um but it it looks like it's got wider body work too doesn't it like the fenders are wider in the rear in the front but you if you want if you

118:36don't want to wait you can get something even more powerful that is available right now with a manual transmission you get the uh shelby super snake google that you want to see america at its rock hard finest 2019 or 18 shelby super snake 800 horsepower wide body mustang with a manual transmission and they say don't even with the automatic because the automatic transmission is the transmission from a regular automatic mustang and it just doesn't know what the to do okay i mean it's just it's it's confused by this thing the car has 800 horsepower turn that volume up america america come on look at that yeah that's not to me that's sexy but not worth 117 pounds shut your communist mouth that is a monster of a car good lord that's a beautiful thing on your tesla can you download sound effects so it sounds like that no no or just farts you don't want that

119:45you want to just just be cool just chill tesla's like you're you're a man of leisure you're a man of leisure you're driving around comfortable and quiet as it flies around it's like it's going through a wormhole everywhere you drive it very strange car very strong have you tried the self-driving yet have you um nerve-wracking isn't it kevin pereira took me on it once and it's pretty scary yeah brian cowan does that i think he's beating off a lot when he's driving put porn on that big screen i hear you can no no jesus i was like that's great you imagine just driving people are on autopilot just beating off to porn and that giant ass screen does it have a web browser in it and it seems like i haven't even looked man i'm sure it does something yeah you could probably get online if it's parked or something ridiculous like that it's a crazy car but it it's it's it seems like

120:40such a leap from anything that i've ever driven before like i've never i've never experienced anything remotely close to it so let's go play some quake let's wrap this up so um i said everything i wanted to say about the the jack dorsey thing um i said everything i want to say to uh alex jones so my olive branch extended to you mr jones i wish you well in this life um and everybody else we'll do better we're gonna definitely have jack back on and we're going to have jack back on and review some of these cases with some of the people that are in charge with it um of it rather and we're going to compile a list we're going to try to get someone to compile a list of uh what they think would be contradictory cases or hypocritical cases or interesting cases or just fuel for conversation and we'll figure it out and uh and yeah the cash app's one of the sponsors of the podcast

121:34i'm ninety nine point nine percent sure we said that i'm i'm positive we did because we talked about justin wren's fight for the forgotten charity about what that code word rogan is doing for pygmies in the congo when they do that i swear to you even though you don't have to believe me that did not affect how i talk to that guy i don't have a problem getting sponsors i got plenty of sponsors it's a good sponsor i like them they do good things they donate five dollars to ufc fighter ray borg's sons medical bills for every time someone uses the code joe rogan so i like them if i had them as a sponsor and i couldn't talk freely with him i would be happy if they dropped me i would be way happier for them to drop me than i would for me to say something different or not say something because they're a sponsor again that sounds very self-serving like you would say that right but it's true

122:27so that's all i can tell you all right so uh that's it for today um bye see ya bye everybody bye see ya you