Anthony Cumia

00:00i think that would pan out i had a similar idea anthony cumia we're live sir i love it joe rogan if it was not for you oh my god this this would not exist which is insane that is a hundred percent actual fact i was watching you doing live from the compound me and brian red band were sitting in my living room and we were watching you you were playing karaoke you were singing karaoke with a machine gun in front of a green screen and i was like this guy this guy just set up his own studio like he already has opie and anthony's show at the time you guys were on siriusxm yeah and he just decided to do this thing in your basement just for a goof yeah it was like a hobby it's like guys who don't have kids married who not married don't have kids don't have anybody telling them what to do and they also have disposable income then you get to see what guys really

00:53want to do they want to sing karaoke with a machine gun in front of a green screen yeah it was crazy gun guy karaoke so i could do that if if i was married i would have a wife that would lose her mind at my living room like my living room table that you're supposed to have a candle on and little tchotchkes and stuff is a widescreen uh computer monitor and uh a gaming system right next to the table i have a gaming computer that's just unbelievable and i sit there and just play video games so the table itself is a gaming monitor yeah the whole table well is it one of those touchscreen ones no it's it's a giant wide monitor it's like uh like 40 inches wide so that's the table no it's on the table yeah the table is big heavy metal thing but but it's just everything there's vr goggles up on the console by the tv it's just sensors around the room for the vr it's a a playground and you're

01:50absolutely right guys will spend their money on having fun if if allowed to that's what this place is this place is insane i can't do this in my house you go to my house it's my wife's house see that's how it works i have one elk head on the wall that's all i have that's all you're allowed i laugh at guys when they have the uh the man cave yeah like dude come on down to the man cave the chicks aren't allowed down here i got this the tv that and i'm like no her place is the whole house she relegated you to one room and go and you're happy about it you're happy that you got one room happy wife happy life that's apparently it uh it didn't work it didn't work for me you know the thoreau quote that i say way too many times in this podcast but i love the quote most men live lives of silent desperation wow yeah it that is true it's a hundred percent true it was uh i was married for a time and

02:44it was uh it was a nightmare it was a living hell for me the only thing that got me through as many years as i was married because i was married nine years and i don't remember one happy year out of those nine but i had gotten into radio pretty early on in that marriage and that was my life so i dedicated myself no matter how miserable anything else in my life was i was doing radio so i i i thought it was awesome i have a theory about that i really do i think that a person needs a certain amount of suffering in their life and if you look at some of the all-time great comics or even all-time great radio personalities like howard stern yeah howard stern during his heyday when he was the man was miserable right right he would talk about it he would hide in his basement i love the story of you realize like here's this guy he's the you know the biggest radio personality ever

03:40he's he's huge and yet he's got to hide and he's just talking about masturbating and hiding from his wife and he can't get any sex and you're like it didn't matter if he was huge it didn't matter if he was famous didn't matter how rich he was didn't matter yeah he's just hiding in the basement and that angst came out on the radio like you related to him you understood it yeah yeah i i i get that um and i it worked for me because there was a lot of misery like when i started uh doing really well we moved back to new york from from boston after we got fired and myself you guys got fired for saying that the mayor died yeah it was an april fool's gag and uh because we always thought the the radio april fools jokes were so stupid and hokey and uh yeah we changed the format to all elvis and it's like after 10 minutes they say april fools uh so we're like let's just go balls out

04:34and say the mayor's dead and have a news guy come on and report it and everything and then it was supposed to subsequently get more outrageous as the uh the the show went on so by the end of it there was a taiwan male hooker in the car with him and they crashed because he was getting a blow job or so like it was going to get really ridiculous but they stopped it early on and never allowed us to even mention it so people really thought he died although it's kind of stupid you go to the ona show for your news but back then the internet wasn't what it is now exactly yeah it was the intern was it even it was barely a thing it was barely a thing uh because that was 90 97 yeah around there 98 what year did you get on you probably earlier i was on really early like the 80s i was on bulletin board servers and uh used to play trivia games with a 300 baud modem

05:32with people and i thought it was amazing uh even then and then in in the uh when we were up in boston i bought a digital camera that was just this giant thing and i had a laptop another giant thing and uh i would take pictures of what was going on in the studio and then post them that night on a website that i figured out i used to code the html myself and make a website just to post pictures and links wow and people thought it was amazing like you're seeing what we talked about that day uh it wasn't instant but it was pretty cool and then i started doing videos i i was able to put video like maybe eight second clips of nude girls if they were in the studio and pop that up and people loved it uh and then i got a bill from the the company for bandwidth and i didn't know bandwidth it was a 12 000 bill for a month yeah yeah because i there was no there was no compression

06:28or anything i'm pumping video out to thousands of people uncompressed and uh apparently um they had that happen a couple of times so they told me uh just don't do it again they didn't make me pay which was pretty cool wow but at that point i had to learn about you know coding and uh compression and things like that but so you just kept doing it and just just put them in some sort of a compressed format yeah yeah what did you uh would you use do you remember back then oh god i think it was like uh for audio it was real audio which was hilarious that's right the little player yeah the little player real audio player would pop up and then for video god i can't even remember what it was but it was terrible it was all pixelated you know like 10 frames per minute kind of weird that things like real audio which was everywhere just yeah they just quit yeah they gave up are they

07:20around still unless they changed into something else you know everybody got bought out by somebody yeah yeah yeah that happens to everything but honestly if it was not for you and your show live from the compound and for opinion and hilarious because opium anthony was the first radio show that i real whatever wherever realized you don't really have to have a format yeah you just talk yeah it was just kind of a a talk thing it was a hang on it was a hang and a lot of the uh we we were on the same comp it was the same company as howard stern cbs radio oh look at that reel is still here wow it says it makes stories from your videos and photos now but this is exactly what it is it's real.com it's a real player automatically makes video stories from your best photos sorry to cut you off there ew no it's ill now it's like a kind of montage does it automatically

08:12yeah yeah it used to be a good way to watch porn with weird codex the codex yeah right when porn had a weird codex you know like who the who compiled this yeah and then you'd get it you'd watch it on real player like we didn't get porn from bittorrent yeah yeah and sometimes you wouldn't have anything on your computer to play it would say kodak not available yeah exactly get pissed off because you like the thumbnail like yeah yeah yeah i was like no that thumbnail was awesome i got to see this i remember the first time i ever got a porn video sent to me i was like this is crazy yeah yeah watch a porn video like before it was just photos the photos were insane because uh i i guess it was around the mid 90s my brother had picked up a uh an apple computer i don't even know what model it was or anything but it was it was pretty good for the time and uh i just sat in front of that thing

09:08for hours and hours on end just one porn pic it was no videos just pictures and you know how they used to scroll uh sometimes it was a corrupt file so halfway down it would just turn white yeah and pixelated and zigzaggy but uh just for hours just one more one more one more yeah it would slowly emerge it was very uh very compelling yeah you'd sit there just waiting for like a 3d printer is faster now yeah than it was downloading photos on a 14k modem yeah yeah it's insane to think of the technology end of it because uh you got thumb drives with more memory than entire computers had yeah just uh a few years ago uh and and i remember i guess it was bill gates or something said you'll you'll never need anything more powerful than a 486 back years ago and it's like what a couple of megs of memory and uh just crazy the the demand for for uh computer power got way out of hand

10:13and especially with games and stuff oh yeah i'm a huge gaming guy now you download a game like uh red dead redemption 2 or uh call of duty um and and it's 75 to 100 gigs really those games yeah and it's like that would have that would have been a hundred computers and to think of those floppy disks you used to get games on yeah it would have been a pallet stacked up like six feet high of those discs to load it um on a computer so yeah like the old doom game yeah yeah yeah you just disc yeah make those sounds and hopefully it would work and uh yeah now you just download them i haven't been to a a gaming store in years because with the origin or steam you just download the game right off your uh offline so if you want to get rid of redemption too you just download it you just download it like i don't know who goes to gamestop or anything anymore people still do though i mean there's

11:08one in the mall i've seen yeah yeah i've seen it i don't know maybe for used games yeah xbox and uh playstation at xbox you could download too right oh yeah yeah yeah and playstation yeah you just plug that catch six or whatever it is i was having a conversation with jordan peterson about this yesterday off air i was saying i'm really i get concerned because i feel like all of our information like the vast majority of it is now digital i mean we have some things that are written down on paper but even papers so it's so easy to break and burn and up i mean we lost most of human beings lost most of the information about egypt when they burned the library of alexandria who knows i mean there could have been all sorts of schematics and some diagrams detailed diagrams how they built some of the things they built yeah lost it all you know that easily could happen to us

11:58and then we'd be starting from scratch again yeah the uh when when it takes some form of electricity to to get to all this information you're really dependent on that there's going to be power that type of power forever and even if we figure out how to reboot electricity let's say if some day in the future what if we have a massive coronal mass ejection and it nukes the entire the whole grid and all the satellites go down and we have to start from scratch so yeah a decade two decades before people start rebuilding computers again that actually work well they're gonna have to decipher all this information they're going to have to figure out those codecs they're going to have to figure it right yeah they're going to get drivers to make all this stuff work and they're going to miss a lot of it yeah all the info is literally ones and zeros and has to be decoded and and put back

12:50together again and some important stuff if it's on a drive somewhere it could just get nuked yeah it's gone and then gone forever all the things that people figured out gone uh don't you wish that would happen at some point i don't know i'm so cynical man i really am lately more so i i i think over the course of the past few years i've just gotten more cynical and uh i think social media had a big effect on me well you engaged too much yes i did i'm off social media now i have been for for maybe uh months at least you know is it a personal choice well twitter kicked me off quite a few times what did they kick you off just dumb too it wasn't even um it wasn't even that bad like the last one it was i was defending jimmy norton some girl was on just bashing jimmy and uh and i was like look at you i go i don't even know what you are first of all you're either a masculine girl or a

13:56feminine guy and your hair looks like it was dyed with period blood because yes and both god they permanently suspended me that was that was blood period you can't make fun of that you can't make fun of somebody's looks if their sexuality and i kind of called him a a femme uh or or a butch whatever it was whatever whichever case whichever case and to this day i still don't know actually but uh so i get kicked off a lot i have a twitter account now but i have not told anybody what the name is or because i just use it for research for the show right because uh twitter gets the news before the news yeah like that's where everything breaks now on twitter you know what's interesting to me louis farrakhan's still on twitter it's it's amazing you ever read some of the he says it's about evil jews crazy anti-semitic unbelievable yeah unbelievable and for whatever

14:53reason they're scared to kick him off yeah they won't kick him off i guess uh laura loomer is a a jewish kind of independent reporter girl and uh nutcase slash nutcase whatever yeah yeah whatever you want to say she chained herself she chained herself to twitter yesterday it's hilarious i just watched it on periscope as it was going on and she's got a bullhorn and she's just yelling uh at twitter that's why you lose me you gotta bullhorn you know it's funny it's kind of left-wing tactics she was using yeah because conservatives the right republicans whatever you want to call are pretty mellow when it comes to they don't demonstrate really right they like to just get in there and do their whatever it is uh but liberals really like getting out there and marching and yelling and bull horns and stuff like that so it was weird like to see that on the other end yeah uh but she she's

15:48just screaming and uh i guess i guess they they unhooked her and uh and arrested ourselves what did they f what did they kick her off at twitter for they kicked her off for talking about uh islam and talking about how uh twitter was celebrating uh women's day whatever whatever that was on a certain day by uh focusing like the picture was one of those uh islamic women that got elected to office up in what was it minnesota or somewhere so she said how hypocritical that was because you know islam is for female genital mutilation and uh against women's rights and they kill gay people and and that's all she posted and she got kicked off for hate speech against islam and and then her argument was louis farrakhan is saying you know i'm not an anti-semite i'm an anti-termite equating jews with insects which is pretty 1930s germany kind of a thing so uh you know while her

16:51heart was in the right place i guess uh it did come off a little wacky she also had a um star david a yellow star david on her shirt uh as she was chained to twitter and people got upset with that uh there she is i just thought to tell you the truth i thought it was a good strategic move because you're gonna buy time with that because the police do not want that optic of a uniformed guy kind of pulling a girl off there wearing a star david thing just a picture looks bad so it might have bought her some time but i don't know if that was her motive she planned it out well she did apparently it was the number one uh trending topic on twitter uh which is odd that you know she gets kicked off and ends up being the the number one trending topic what's really odd is this is while manafort he may have purged himself right mueller is going after trump's deeper ties cohen is now saying

17:46that trump was in cahoots with putin who's going to give him the 50 million penthouse tower in moscow yeah yeah you know all that but like no no that girl got kicked off twitter kicked off twitter it sounds ridiculous because i i got like i said i got kicked off and i'm i'm i'm a little bummed about it uh but uh it's what because it's odd it's not just a private company anymore that can do what they want i'm not for government regulation so i don't know how you fix this but twitter is now a thing where the president's on it world leaders are discussing things on it emergency management fema and and the weather services they put out alerts in case of uh danger or or some kind of event that's going to happen and because of your political ideology or calling a girl period blood hair uh you you're not privy to alerts and safety information that well it's it's clear that it's not everyone's

18:46doesn't have to follow the same rules we've already established that with farrakhan right we've also established that with trump sam harris has been on a he was at least i think he's abandoned it but he was on a quest to get jack to try to hold up his terms of service agreement and and kick trump off of twitter he's like look what he's doing he's threatening nuclear war like do you understand like this is the craziest use of twitter ever yeah and i think jack's position was that it is it's more beneficial to have him on and it's really we are getting to see his personality in a way we've never seen any president's personality absolutely i mean the the the most ridiculous petty that he does like attacking michelle wolf because of her white house correspondence calling people losers you know making fun of uh the girl on um joe scarborough the girl he married yeah

19:38yeah saying that she had up plastic surgery she's bleeding yeah yeah he just makes up i mean do you think she really really thinks she showed up on mar-a-lago bleeding with plastic surgery he's a maniac it really is but meanwhile that it it it's good for us to see because it educates us to who he is as a real person right like there's a lot of who you are just gets exposed in those tweets yeah we little bit you can't know everything about a person from their twitter but you can get you can parse out little chunks where you get a good taste and for him it's very very revealing yeah it is a weird thing this is i think this will be looked back on as a very pivotal moment uh in american history and in politics where that kind of crossroad happened yeah uh because we were we were pretty satisfied with uh that political speech thing that and we need to bring up the lower uh middle class to the

20:40and they just go on and on and drone on it's this weird speech that no real human being ever speaks like hillary was hilarious and what wayne today is it was fake it comes off as fake and phony trump comes rolling in it's absolutely batshit insane like the stuff he says like you were saying the other day he's he's given a speech and he said that when he was younger people said he looked like elvis because he was doing some kind of a commemorative thing for elvis um uh down in is it tennessee or somewhere and he says uh he looked like elvis and we're laughing our ass off me and keith because no one ever told him he looked like elvis no one ever told him that and and and there's so many things and i'm a trump guy i voted for the guy because i i wanted that monkey wrench thrown into the machine i felt we had gotten screwed too many decades and it was time to let washington know like

21:39look we'd rather elect this nut than any of you guys so i think it proved a point uh there are enough checks and balances in place where you know the likes of any one president really isn't going to do that much damage i think he's pulled the cover off a lot of stuff i think people are trying to compete with him on twitter politicians are trying to play his game and it's kind of fun to watch as a comic entertainer it's gold do you see what tulsi gabbard said to him what she's a congresswoman from uh hawaii she said uh being saudi arabia's isn't making america first like that's a congresswoman see they're all kind of taking that they never used to do that no they didn't and it's odd that a 70 year old guy was the one that was like bringing twitter to social media into this uh forum it is on and and yeah you would think it would be some young guy to get in there and do it but

22:37i would never do it the way he's doing it no that's just doing it like a reckless maniac it's and and that's because he can yeah the guy you you'll never see a chain of events like what happened to elect donald trump the rich guy is just a billionaire or a millionaire whatever you want to call him he's got a lot of money money from his dad from his his dad and then you know i remember him in new york uh when i was a kid trump was always in the news developer he was always banging heads with politicians trying to get some kind of zoning thing going or build some other tower somewhere and uh so we were all familiar with him and we knew he was like this piece of guy you know like everyone was surprised like oh god he grabbed by the he's like we saw in the daily news in new york post every week trump was with some other who and so it wasn't a surprise to to us

23:32yeah but he got out there and it was the perfect timing like we come off the uh the heels of eight years of a democratic president uh and it just was people were ready for a maniac to be in the water some people were some people are exactly my favorite image of the election was that lady with the sock hat on on her knees with the glasses screaming like that to me ushered in this era of outrage and chaos yeah yeah it just was it that was like the the primal scream that set off the dominoes and they're all in motion right now it wasn't supposed to happen it wasn't supposed to happen hillary was supposed to be president that's what everybody thought it was gonna go down in history as just one of those wacky elections and then business as usual yeah but uh you know when when trump won it turned everything upside down and ripped the cover off of i think not only politics in washington but

24:34hollywood uh the mainstream media the news media everything had the covers ripped off and everyone's now got a peek inside and realize how up everything is you know you used to assume washington at least the people had some kind of control like they were they were adults doing the job that needed to be and then you realize oh my god everyone's just a piece of do you remember here's a story that disappeared from years ago do you remember the washington madam that suicided herself oh yeah yeah book filled with politicians that were getting they were banging all these prostitutes yeah and she was gonna release everything and she was doing press conferences and then she committed suicide committed suicide but it's like well case closed you know no big deal oh lost their books yeah whatever whatever whatever and then it disappeared yeah it disappeared things like that happen

25:25like like politicians kill people oh yeah uh there's there's secret backroom deals that happen and it's crazy house of cards is way closer to reality than people would like to believe yeah yeah way closer we uh over the course of the decades upon decades uh every year that goes by we seem to get a little more knowledge and a little less confident in the government i mean i watch some from the 50s you know there's plenty of things on youtube and even even industrial films just this thing of how a family how to raise your family how to be a good wife all that stuff and it was all this weird propaganda of what america was and then as years go by you realize oh it was all like politicians were always getting rich and no one seems to know how or why and these deals that are made aren't always in our best interest they're not civil servants there to represent and help you and and

26:27as the years go by we see more and more of this and the past two years with trump has just been uh man quite a crash course it really has yeah it's great i'm fascinated to see where it goes i'm fascinated to see if he seems you know i mean they always called gotti the teflon don but it seems like trump is the teflon donald i mean he seems it seems like all these things keep happening and and even because like i remember justin martindale a comedian friend of mine it's hilarious he goes uh he was talking about stormy daniels he was like uh she's our monica lewinsky she's to take him down i'm like what the that's not happening no you don't get it he doesn't care that they know he her yeah he doesn't care do you understand it's not you have to care for it to work right and that's just it people don't really care it's uh well some people don't care i i follow

27:24like rosie o'donnell's account on twitter and rob reiner is another one and for two years over two years uh they have just been like counting down and and the day that it's like oh impeachment's right around the corner oh he's out oh they're gonna put him in prison i hope you and your son get a cell next to each other and it's like how long are you gonna do this eight years is it gonna be eight years of you going well any day now how about keith mueller is gonna yeah do you remember when he was doing that wacky show in a basement somewhere for gq like a mental patient like legitimately like a mental patient resistance screaming it was like he was doing like it was almost like burlesque or something you know what i'm saying like you know how it was like the radio version of burlesque yeah when you see a girl doing burlesque it's like an a throwback to an old-timey way of doing

28:21things like that right handlebar mustache with the bowler cap will introduce her she's body she's bodacious please welcome madame blah blah and she comes out to music that nobody listens to anymore and she's dancing around right it's very weird and they're they're always kind of big girls they're not skinny like little strippers oh yeah they're girls who eat so it's like it's a throwback to a different time of rowdiness and when he was in front of that screen like doing this thing with his suit on in his tie like and everything was like really well written and like right these precise points and i don't understand like what the red blue and the background was either it's just it was so it seemed like something that someone had set up like not as good as your compound yeah your basement live from the compound it wasn't it wasn't as good as that it's like that's

29:13the background this is for gq gq is like okay we have thirty dollars yeah so yeah we have uh dollars i think uh i think uh charlie's got a camera yeah he could bring it in thirty dollars good okay we have a table the ikea table that's twelve dollars you have eighteen dollars left we got some construction paper for the background i mean what the is this yeah they got some big ass blue and and blue uh and red paint yeah yeah posters like what what is that and then he would just pontificate there and and he quit and his last thing was like because the end is imminent there's no no reason for me to go on finished yeah what is this my work here is done play some of this trump is finished posted one year one year ago this week exactly one year ago wow november 11 2017 was when he quit get a pardon from trump or that mueller as i've also reported here has succeeded in finding a way around

30:13trump's pardon power and either of these near certainties spell trump's doom so that's the most obvious of the seven ways for trump to go now mueller really will get him on russia it will be ugly and it will tear this country nearly apart but it will be necessary the second way is as i've also repeatedly suggested here that mueller doesn't really need to prove anything about trump and russian sabotage of the election there seems to be so much obstruction of justice from the firing of james comey to the lies about trump jr's meetings with the russians that it's hard to pick out a key player in the trump inner circle who could not be guilty of it it's so funny a year ago and it's like it's still going still going still going and it's like it's fake news yeah end it now fake news it's a hoax but it is interesting like more to me is fascinating because he seems like a ruthless

31:14takes his time he's like a guy says hey look at me i'm going to kill you yeah and it's not going to be today okay that's all you need to know it's not going to be today but i'm going to kill you and like every day he's plotting on killing you you see him drive by your house and wave yeah you're like when is that when is the hammer falling you look out your window of your office he's out yeah look at that guy drinking coffee oh he has seen some oh i mean this guy he's yeah i mean he's a cold-blooded intelligence agent yeah yeah those guys have seen everything he knows the inner work is the machine and he knows how you bring a guy like that down and how you it up and he's doing everything that leads me to believe that he's not it up this is a slow play and if there is if there is anything to the russian thing i you would think something would have leaked out by now

32:05well it has i mean there was a video the other day of donald that they just played on cnn of donald talking about how many times he's actually been to rush donald jr and you know he had said that he hadn't been but then there's another video of him from years ago saying yeah i've been there many times yeah five six seven talking about business the problem with uh the people that are going after trump that they don't seem to understand the guy right up until he became president of the united states was just a private citizen businessman so he had a lot of dealings around the world with his real estate and buildings and and golf courses all this happened when he was just a citizen doing business now whether it was ethical or not um that that could definitely be brought into question whether it's legal or not uh i'm sure that's what they're looking into also but he wasn't

33:02he wasn't uh beholden to the people as a public servant there wasn't a conflict of interest because he was a lifelong politician right and using the power of his office to make deals so and and that also goes hand-in-hand with him just around yeah like like if he went from a selectman in his hometown and then years and years go by and then you're the president and you built that career up any at any point in there they could call you out on being a horrible human being because you girls or you're this or you had a shady business dealing but up until two years ago he was just donald trump yeah so it's hard to call him out on even dealing with russia because there's plenty of businessmen to deal with russia and china i think the question is whether or not he colluded with russia to get information about hillary and also to to to put out all that propaganda against hillary

33:56and also saying that they're going to make a deal to do the trump tower in moscow this is all while he was running for president and not being honest about it i think that's that's where it gets again i don't know almost if there's anything illegal there i don't know if there's anything uh that that he did that is illegal because i believe when you're campaigning say whatever the you want to anybody i don't think you're not really running i mean you're you're right you're not really running anything you're not really running the country yeah if he lost the presidency he would still have to have some ducks in in a row to continue his business so you know and his son took over uh that part of of what he was doing so he could campaign so whether donny jr went over to russia or not i don't really see you might think it's unethical and you might go well did he say if we win we'll do this

34:46and help you out so who knows about that part of it but i don't see in and of itself him going over there being that big a problem and the fact that you know the clinton campaign and the dnc they had a lot of shady deals going on with russia also and that crazy dossier and uh an english spy and a russian like and that just never seems to get any traction it's weird well there's way more left-wing media publications in the right way absolutely that's just the fact there's only a few right-wing uh newspapers and right-wing websites are oftentimes maligned they're not treated seriously like there's no right-wing newspaper that's treated with the same amount of respect as the new york times no hell next doesn't exist no what the uh the new york post well is new york right-wing i don't know outrageously yeah they don't give a who you are liberal democrat true conservative republican

35:42they'll you some of the headlines that have come off of the post have been classic over the years they're amazing yeah they're like comics yeah yeah it's just comedy yeah one was uh the one i thought was just so douchey when fred astaire died it said a stairway to heaven i was like who but that's someone must have gotten a hit for that is the one thing that i do love about new york and boston too yeah there's a harshness to the comedy because yeah yeah people are cold it's cold the winter time is cold like you and that that growing up there man it it flavored me it flavored burr yeah there's a million guys like that that like that patrice that comedy a lot of it came out of that part of the world because that part of the world's different isn't that weird it's it's cold cold and you think that just makes people angry cold and a lot of people i think cold and very few people

36:41makes people like more down homey and compassionate and they stay together montana except for a few serial killers randomly scattered scattered out into the woods yeah but other than that you get like people that work together and help each other because they realize they're in this together yeah there is a there's a stark difference between uh new york uh and boston-based comics and la-based content it's amazing yeah yeah and some of them have that crossover appeal there oh and they've moved you know plays and and uh like bill you know but maintains that boston sensibility that new york sensibility yeah yeah that's what's appealing about him is that he's still a savage right exactly yeah yeah yeah like that you don't grow that out here it's too sunny it's nice every day everyone's uh everyone seems kind of pleasant out here whether it's real or phoniness but it comes off as pleasantry

37:35and in new york it's just a grave disregard for everybody uh yeah you literally step over people too many people yeah yeah they lose their value yeah it's like if you have a million pennies and you drop a penny like whatever right lost a guy on the train whatever it is odd when uh you think about if there was somebody just laying in the the gutter of the street in some small town in kansas uh the the police an ambulance would be called and people would stop and ask if he was okay and stuff and in new york you literally step over those people you just don't even look in their face you it's a it's an inconvenience yeah that someone is laying on the sidewalk if you were in the middle of a a snowstorm and you were your car broke down and you saw a guy laying on the side of the road yeah you'd help him of course he'd be like oh jesus poor guy we got to help him too yeah hey buddy

38:33you all right yeah yeah not so much new york new york you just see him lying in his own piss needle hanging out of his dick yeah and i and i'm pissed that it stinks yeah down the subway gross like disgusting man yeah no compass does stink too though in a steamy august day it's the worst and it's gotten worse uh under uh de blasio as the mayor of new york now and uh say what you want about giuliani who now is batshit crazy uh what happened with him i don't know i think there's something blew a fuse he's not respectable anymore he's like some kind well he aligned himself with trump so that immediately gets you put into a category but he's also a little i think he's got some dementia going on like he just doesn't seem right you know what it is he lost his comb over that's the he had a comb over for what is that like uh what's his name over and he realized oh my god i'm

39:29crazy samson's hair it's like that he he lost the the last wisps those last wisps of comb over yeah that he had during 9 11 going on yeah he was at one point you know after 9 11 they called 9 10 2001 he was a piece of no one liked giuliani he ruined new york he ruined it by commercializing it cleaning up all the porn theaters uh uh getting rid of the tunnel bunnies and the squeegee guys like he went on a tear just gave the police department carte blanche to start racking head and taking care of business it cleaned up new york times square turned into a disney type atmosphere instead of that drug-addled mess that it was and and people hated him for kind of ruining that gritty new york that we saw in taxi driver and and then 9 11 he was america's mayor that's what they called him america's mayor he's going out of yankee games and ovations and people he's standing with the uh he looks like

40:31a crazy person on the right yeah yeah he just totally shaved his head if i talk to him i said listen bro there's a lot of power in just shaving your shade that head yeah you feel good you feel like a guy who has like hair on the side of his head unless you do a lot of drugs like hunter s thompson it's hard right you can't pull that off i think yeah uh who's gonna pull it off the right hand side that's a that's a comb over in the beginning yeah above that above that above that to the right to the right with a suit look at that oh yeah that's where it's first started that's the full oh my god yeah look at that oh it's working from the back what did he do did he try to get uh plugs or something in the front i don't think so i don't know what that is it's just just rocking that full strong comb over that is uh he uh he had a lot to do with the the the um getting rid of organized crime in new

41:24york city like the mafia the five families all that was still running pretty rampant uh throughout the 70s and 80s uh as a kid me and my brother used to laugh our asses off we'd open the newspaper and it was like johnny the horse bugliotti was found dead and stuff we would laugh our asses off at the names yeah like just those those mob names it's it's hilarious and that scene in goodfellas at the beginning when they're just going through and you know the nose and killer and this guy and they all have those names that are hilarious and yeah giuliani was a big part of that i'm surprised they didn't kill him like he was absolutely responsible he kept going after them and kept putting them away uh with the you know the new ricoh statutes that they had and uh locked up a lot of mobsters man so well you know another problem with the mobs is they started rat on each other

42:18yeah yeah yeah as soon as you start ratting on each other all your mystique is gone your whole your whole legend is gone this is just the whole thing is that you guys have omerta you keep your mouth shut you do your time like a man right and you get out and you're a hero and that this whole thing keeps going this thing of ours is this thing but those didn't want to go to jail isn't that something like the old school guys would be offered you know you could walk or you could get a really easy sentence just talk oh your mother yeah and and then yeah they reached the point where it's like yeah i i'm not built for prison when they would put him in prison though it was like in goodfellas they would be able to cook and they they paid the guards off they had a sweet setup the internet ruined all that too yeah yeah you went well it was probably all dead before the internet but

43:08but you know like sammy the bull gravano he was free yeah he did his time the minimum amount of time he killed at least 10 people they mean murdered people yeah he confessed to them you know talked about the murder that's what he did and how he did them he wanted god he was so bad they wanted god he's so bad i mean sammy the bill gravano was a straight-up psychopath yeah it's total serial killer yeah and they let him walk and then he got arrested eventually for selling ecstasy in phoenix he moved to phoenix after that yeah yeah and then he uh he was running down there and how did he just not get whacked out like was the mob was gone they all were gone and no one cared it all it all crumbled did that something yeah just like uh yeah poof went away the thing that like gotti was the first one that was like real flashy in public about it yeah yeah they were

44:02like vincent the chin always used to walk around like a crazy person in he the bathroom but he would he would give people directions while he was doing that but he felt like everything was being bugged so they would do is they'd bug cars along his walking route right so they could record him because oh that is hilarious knew what he was doing jesus there's always a way yeah there's always a way to get you yeah the mystique was gone though yeah it wasn't really like the russians still have the mystique russian mobsters they are brutal too the scary ones like they are the scary ones there's there's scary ones a worse mop because regardless of what it turned into there was a time where the italian mob did have a line like you didn't cross family things like that uh but the russians oh my god will they up an entire family the dog everything gets killed in the worst way yeah they're scary

44:58scary i had a an experience um out it was uh broadway i guess uh and they have those pedal cabs that go around and they're all russian dudes big legs on them they pedal around and i was looking for a cab a real cab to take me downtown i wasn't gonna ride 15 blocks in a tricycle with yuri pedaling in front of me so uh this guy passed by once and said you need keb i was like nah i'm good thanks comes around again i'm still waiting for a cab and he goes kev i was like i'm not gonna have you peddle me 15 blocks no move and and you could yell at a cab driver in new york they'll yell out your window and stuff they rarely will get out of their car they know you know you got the medallion right there you could just call the number and say you were being harassed by a cab driver so they won't do anything this guy gets off his bike you have a problem you're a problem

45:56well and i was just like oh it's going down like i this guy means business and of course i'm like nope no all good oh good i thank you i don't need a a cab you're right and that was it but you don't with russians no they're not regular white people no they're not they're not they're hard people yeah yeah you see that in the ufc there's a lot of badass russians well obviously now we saw that uh yeah when he's on top of conor punching him in the face saying let's talk now let's talk let's talk boom let's talk come on we talk boom just twisted terrific yeah yeah yeah and then they got those other videos that you see on youtube and whatnot of russians just uh up in in steel i-beams yeah like a hundred stories uh backflip swinging doing back flips hanging by two fingers isn't that uncomfortable sometimes falling yeah my hands are sweating you just talking about that makes my hands

46:57dude it is so uncomfortable to watch and uh because they're they get themselves in these positions where maybe there's this thin little uh alcove and and they put their hands against one side their feet against the other this if your feet slip there's no no recovering that drives me crazy it's not look i got goosebumps isn't that weird you get a visceral reaction to just the thought and i have some friends that just know that i freak out so they send me those everything oh christ yeah there are some things that uh are online oh look at this guy get the oh my god they are nuts i can't do this man all that my hands are pouring so yeah yeah oh my god look at this crazy oh legs i'll film you all oh my god do crazy oh oh gosh oh i'm standing oh oh what does it say daredevil returns with latest shocking stunt on skyscraper this that he's doing a handstand

48:12on what is that a three-inch ledge oh my god oh he's going around the corner come on you come on go around the corner what are you doing do this you dude one little one little miscalculation or how do you do that how do you know your center of gravity isn't just gonna pull you right the off jesus christ you went around the corner that's nuts what is this guy's life like if he just decides he's gonna do this this makes me very uncomfortable that is so high up it's so high that is so high i wouldn't i can't do what he did if he was on the ground right yeah yeah so i can't i can't do those handstands and all that jazz right mark out three inches and try to stay on it with your hands or mark it up enough so that you like put pads under me right right and then give it so i could jump up and grab it and hang yeah let's see how much of that i could do like a couple of things i could hang

49:08from my fingers i might be able to pull myself up but if i got to the top i'll probably slip yeah yeah you know you know height will definitely with you like like if you're riding a bike on a sidewalk you will never fall off the sidewalk right you could just ride your bike you don't even have to think about it sidewalk what a couple of feet wide if that was over like the grand canyon you you would you would be shaking you couldn't do it and it's the same thing it's just your your perception and the height and you know you'd be you'd be up you'd be like this i'm gonna fall off we have that htc vibe in the back room here oh yeah and uh there's one game we have to download that game we haven't gotten that game you go to the hardware store and you buy a 2x4 and you lay it down on the floor and then the game is you put the vr goggles on and you're walking on this two by four

49:59over like in between two skyscrapers right so as you're doing it and like you hear sound oh my god that's awesome this is this is the actual game oh my god so you step out oh here's the two by four so this two by four is real like you have an actual two by four right really walking on this so you're feeling it and you walk the plank oh my god oh my god and you look down you're like oh yeah what is that thing floating in front of you i don't know what's that supposed to be jamie i've never done it i don't know it's uh yeah the uh first of all watching it on a screen does vr no justice you can't really you are in a space it's so cool to kind of look around they they definitely have to more work to do yeah it's uh it looks cool you feel like you're in a 3d environment but it's not very photorealistic no uh my kids are addicted to it really they run here after school oh

50:56really they put the vr they fight over it and first and first and they they put the vr goggles on and play these crazy games yeah i i have uh the oculus and the vive and the playstation uh vr at home and what's the best uh right now the oculus is the the highest quality of the vr goggles um i think playstation has some pretty cool games out there though uh n5 does too but i think uh uh oculus is gonna come out uh very soon with a completely wireless one yeah so is uh htc vive yeah yeah so you're not like tethered to anything and tripping over wires and that's gonna be yeah that that's pretty huge it's weird though because uh some games aren't conducive to vr and you would think like i play call of duty or battlefield 5 world war ii thing just came out and i love that that game but i couldn't play that for hour because i would play for hours on end and to have the goggles on that long and

51:55uh trying to play a shooter like that um i think vr right now is more conducive to experiences than it is like that that's pretty much not a game it's an experience and it it brings you into a whole another 3d world around you but uh like a shooter game like battlefield or call of duty not really conducive to vr right now not yet yeah i think in the future though a plastic gun yes like a real if you were holding a real plastic you need that interface yeah that would be amazing for a shooter game yeah yeah there's a a few other ideas that they're working on that should be available pretty relatively soon where the system maps your house like the room you're you're in off of your headset and will superimpose things over the couch like it'll be a ammo crate a chair turns into a box ammo crate so as you walk around the room uh it's reading your room but making it

52:53this vr world that looks more military or like a jungle or whatever it is so it won't be a couch you'll hit it but in your vision it'll be a box or an ammo crate or you know what a car something like that so uh that's kind of cool uh utilizing uh the real environment around you and then superimposing over it you know what else is really cool the boxing games yeah and the boxing games you get a crazy workout you get a real legit workout because you're actually like fake boxing this cartoon character yeah yeah and when you get hit you see a bright white flash like like he tagged you like you got yeah like you got hit like you got your bell wrong yeah yeah like you're you but you get you get a real workout when you're doing this yeah breath i've watched uh my my girl plays that and uh it's hilarious it's funny to watch people do vr especially stuff like that because

53:45they're ducking there's another shooter game that she was playing and it's hilarious because she's like screaming and ducking down and your hand is up like pulling a trigger on a fake gun over something that isn't even there right so it's uh it's cool to watch people uh play yeah there's some crazy zombie game that my kids play yeah it's like that you get a bunch of guns and ammo and then the zombies are closing in on you you got to gun them down yeah yeah it's just weird i'll tell you there are some uh games or experiences where you're walking through uh kind of a haunted house thing that are genuinely alarming yeah like like you don't want to you don't want to go around a corner you don't want to do anything and you know like there's when you watch on a monitor it's just the monitor there's behind you that you're not seeing unless you turn around look

54:32so you hear a sound and be like i am not i don't want to turn around i know that thing's going to be right in my face and it's it's frightening uh what is the alien game for is that for the vibe or oculus is it a ridley scott alien yeah that's uh that i think it's both because i had it for oculus yeah yeah alien something yeah it's the one like alien the original movie yeah yeah you're on a ship it's uh it starts with the doors open up and that little thing drinking the the water that little tchotchke on the uh yeah on the desk and it's uh yeah it really gives a good uh uh recreation of the movie which was awesome that's one of the greatest goes down is one of my favorites that movie is also one of my favorite examples when people talk about pushing diversity in movies oh yeah th this movie had a female lead who's a female superstar who uh spoiler alert winds up winning in the end

55:30yeah but you don't even notice no it never feels like it's crammed down your throat right the last star wars yeah i was like get the out of here laura dern you're not running the empire get out of here you're like what is this like she's the head general and then carrie fisher's the other head general and they're telling these men to shut up and this all makes sense to you isn't that amazing dude they had uh uh it that was 1979 and they had um more of an idea of how to present that than uh yeah first of all sigourney weaver is just a badass badass believable movies believe that she pulled it together she was such a great actress yeah so that's alien descent this was like that thing that you did at disney though oh free roaming vr experience new yeah this just came out earlier this year in orange california not exactly well that that would jamie and i have talked about

56:23that many times like that's the future like a warehouse like this space out here but convert it into a giant vr experience yeah yeah where is this champion orange california oh it's not far from here look at that damn we need to go damn yeah when i first saw alien um back uh you know kids i saw in the movie theater when it first came out they were kids my mom took me it was 79 yeah yeah it's hard to believe it was just one of those movies that at the time everyone goes oh my god you got to see this the chest burst scene just slayed people uh but yeah when when you're watching that because traditional movies the guy's the hero and yeah that's what happens when tom skerritt gets it you're just like wait what yeah they just killed the the star the hero that was it was tom skerritt yeah it was like no it's not his move he's a big movie star yeah yeah and uh then it i think it was like

57:19the first movie where where the spaceship was kind of a truck and it was just dirty and just regular guys concerned about getting paid and and like that so uh yeah that's why it was amazing which is this one this is a covenant in utero which is on the walls rift it came up a year or two ago oh cool oh so this is after the covenant movie which is a awesome one that's yeah i like that recent one i love those goddamn movies i love it they're so good i like that but that movie they nailed it it was just great it didn't matter if a woman was running and it wasn't right they weren't shoving it down your throat no whereas i feel like that last star wars one with laura dern and and carrie fisher was like flying flying carrie fisher come on yeah i stopped i wasn't feeling it i didn't feel like they were look there's certain women like um what is her name from house of cards

58:14the the the head woman uh yeah um uh watson jenny from jenny from firestone oh yeah pen so it's something no something something pen her name i think she used that she's so good too i'm embarrassed right robin robin wright yeah robin wright okay if robin wright was playing a general i believe it yeah mean right she could she could send in some tanks i believe i believe that she would like nuke a planet i'd buy that right but uh carrie fisher and laura dern i was like come on i see what you're doing here they're running things i i think they've uh they just they're putting out too many star wars movies to have it that mystique and that kind of uh atmosphere that it was like to go to one of them years ago it's also it's it's disney now yeah yeah which is great because you're it's consistent and it's good right but it's never stunning it's never terrifying it's never it's never

59:19ex machina right right yeah yeah it's never up like when you leave the theater going holy yeah yeah you can't do that anymore they have to kind of polish off the sharp edges and soothe the experience down right palatable mainstream appeal yeah that first the first star wars back in a 77 again i saw that in the movie theater uh with my uncle my uncle joe took me and i didn't know star wars from a hole in the wall i remember the trailer playing on tv and i was like all right that seems kind of cool uh and then we sit down and that opening scene with the giant ship just does a fly over and i was just from that point on i was just mesmerizing this the the illusion of size that they got in the ship and the shape was an actual ship they made it out of like plastic model parts yeah practical effects it was all like took models like they went and bought like a bunch of different

60:14you remember those old models that we used to do like cars and oh yeah paint them yeah you know yeah remember those glue them together you get the model glue right i used to love those yeah they took a bunch of parts from those things and built the millennium falcon they built those battleships from like parts and you could kind of tell because they're so weird and eclectic and some of the parts don't seem to match right but it worked it looked cool it totally worked yeah that was uh you know if you you didn't imagine uh being in one of those x-wing fighters as a kid it was just an amazing thing yeah that's kind of gone it shows you how great alien like ridley scott's alien really was because although star wars was a great movie honestly star wars doesn't really hold up like if you watch it today you look at the special effects like what what am i watching this is so clunky and

61:07and then the katina scene their mouths don't move like the monster's face is like it's weird they're wearing a mask it's really obvious but then you go just two years later to ridley scott's alien that holds up today it looks amazing yeah i got yelled at because i watched it with my kids oh yeah because uh my 10 year old can handle my eight-year-old can not oh man and uh i i watched it i'm like you think you can handle it and they're like yeah i can handle it i'll go okay let's see what that's gonna die the first time the dude got the tongue through the forehead yeah they're like what what the are we watching daddy there was some nightmares he'll remember that yeah i my dad uh my mom and my dad took uh me my brother and my sister when i was seven years old to go see bonnie and clyde with uh warren beatty and uh what's her name there um i can't remember who played boston

62:10faye dunaway very good thank you yes and uh now it's it's famous for being one of the most uh graphic machine gunnings at the end of the movie i mean they were pulling up they got ambushed by law and uh they just get shot up the whole movie though as a seven year old kid i liked these people they were funny they brought banks and stuff but you know they'd make jokes and they were cool and you got to know him as a person so as a seven-year-old i was like oh these these people are cool so then the end of the movie comes and and they're out there and you hear the birds fly away and clyde looks at bonnie uh with the one lens missing from his his glasses and it's really quiet and then all hell breaks loose it's just five guys shooting thompson's at both of them and they're being riddled with with bullet holes and the scene goes on and they're falling down and against the

63:10car the car is just full yeah there it is it's it's so brutal it's crazy too seeing the girl get it oh yeah there's something ruthless about seeing a girl get shot a hundred times yeah yeah look at her it was i i i'm we saw this at the drive-in and uh i i started vomiting in the car seven years old we had we we had been to arby's before so uh my arby's was all over the car i was screaming crying and throwing up going like what the did you take me to see i liked these people i had like a two-hour relationship with them and it ends like that i was horrified horrified as a kid yeah there's certain things but is that bad like ultimately you saw that when you were a kid like maybe yeah maybe it's maybe it's not good to shield kids from too much yeah but maybe not to that extent show me a cartoon first or something because i don't know i don't know if it affected me it's hard

64:15to tell without knowing what it would be like if i didn't see stuff like that uh but the fact that i remember it vividly so many years later maybe had an effect but yeah but is it a negative effect i don't know it's like there's certain experiences that you're you when you can hand like today as an adult you could see a move where a guy gets shot and you can handle it because i freak you out of course but if you saw it when you were four you'd probably freak out yeah but is it good to experience that when you're four just so that you know it's a thing and yeah you have a different view of the world or is it good like you're not a parent but as a parent this is the age-old question like how much do you protect your kids and how much do you let them break their arm because you break your arm you know if you fall you break your arm if you everybody's like helicopter

65:00parenting you constantly like i don't want anybody to die but i don't mind if anybody gets banged up a little bit right right i think you should i think you should know that if you trip it hurts you know there's and there's also you should know that the bullets are real this is there's a real thing that happens like with my kids um uh ever since my kids have been really little i've been hunting and so i've been bringing home meat and explaining to them that i this is meat from an animal that i shot if you go to the supermarket and you buy a steak that came from an animal and i try to get this in their head at an early age so then i introduced them to watching a hunting show with me where we shot a deer and then took the deer apart like you're seeing like they're watching us cut an elk apart yeah yeah my kids watching this and i'm like well this is where you get meat

65:50like when we dinner if we eat elk for dinner this is exactly where it came from i shot it in the mountains we cut it up we packed it out on our back we put it into a truck we drove it somewhere and now we're here now we're eating it this is it yeah i guess if you present it like that yeah uh that's i would guess is a good thing maybe but there's something weird about watching a little kid watch an animal get shot or they're like uh-huh yeah yeah and they realized my dad did that is that good is my dad a piece of it's like these like animals are so beautiful well animal's a hot dog your hot dogs are you want a hot dog right yeah yeah and that's an animal like okay like because most kids just it's a hot dog yeah yeah yeah it's not an actual animal like they kind of know like if you asked a little kid hey where'd this cheeseburger come from oh it's from a cow

66:41but that's like them that's like saying the moon is uh one-sixth earth's gravity i know that i don't know what the that means yeah yeah yeah no real i don't have a real you can't apply it to anything so yeah so when do you show your kids like like i there's a lot of videos that i watch while i close my laptop and the kids come near like violent videos oh yeah especially like animal like i was watching this uh video of these hyenas tearing apart this gazelle oh it's horrific they're ripping the guts out oh yanking on the guts and this thing is making these weird noises and they're just pulling chunks of its guts out yanking on it i'm like and then my you know my little girl comes over and slammed and she's like what are you watching like i'm watching the hyena rip apart gazelle's guts she's like oh okay i don't want to all right yeah yeah well yeah so but but

67:35kind of what's the difference between that and showing you hunting like is there i'm doing it quick uh-huh that's one difference yes okay when i shoot an arrow if i shoot an animal with a bow it's dead in seconds yeah you know if with a well-placed shot it's not going anywhere it's like the last elk i shot that one that's right out there on the floor in front of the werewolf that thing died in five yards it wow five yards tipped over feet up in the air shot it right in the heart wow it was a perfect shot so it was it was almost instantaneous death yeah it might have lived 15 20 seconds and that was it people uh i don't know people don't seem to be shocked that much anymore i know you know trying to keep it from your kids and things like that obviously makes sense but it's almost impossible to keep some really horrific from people well especially if you give

68:28your kid a phone yeah yeah you're giving them access to a lot of nasty stuff and uh like i remember when i was a kid the the big thing was like faces of death yeah you want to go get faces of death man we'll watch it it's crazy guys they beat up a monkey and cut his head off and eat the brains and everything and like yeah that's kind of fake and you could tell the stage things and i think the only real stuff was uh like news footage of airline disasters and yeah accidents well there was one that was real where these uh these guys uh somewhere in the middle east tied these guys arms to one car and his legs to another one and they pulled him apart i cannot like watch that it's it's terrible and now in stunning hd you can see you know snuff films years ago was kind of an urban myth you know it was a thing now they're readily available to anybody oh yeah

69:26in a matter of seconds and i don't know what kind of effect that has on on people and and maybe society but uh and there's really nothing you could do pandora's like out so uh i think it's affecting people though oh it's definitely desensitizing that's the argument about video games as well right yeah yeah we're seeing so much violence and committing violence in video games like jamie what was that video game where uh the guy got in trouble because he made a video of him uh torturing some cousin women's right dead too yeah he punched he punched a um a woman in the face that was uh protesting for um women's rights women's rights to vote suffrage and uh and he got in trouble because he posted it and it yeah it was like a violent thing against women but it's a thing you can do in the game right like they made it in the game so you could do that on purpose and once

70:19it became viral people started going up to her in the game and doing even more terrible there's one where a guy ropes her hog ties her throws her on the back of the horse rides her to a swamp and throws her to an alligator which then eats her in in the swamp that is so crazy that you can do that it's unbelievable the alligator will eat and it's not even a thing like hey do this it's just part of the game that they said well if people want to do it it's a very open-ended game rockstar went with this game it's amazing does does it always happen the exact same way or do you throw no there are different spots in the water and the alligator has a different way of eating yeah there are different animations for the same thing so and different actually there was one uh you'll be riding next to a guy that you're supposed to ride somewhere with and um the guy says something like all

71:11right we're almost there or something and if you're far away from the guy he yells it all right we're almost there and if he's right next he goes well we're almost there like the guy the voice actor had to do a shitload of takes yeah based on what the animation is so i did the the voiceover for the ufc game right and it took forever yeah i mean forever you're there for days and days and days reading every single variation of a head kick to an arm bar to a takedown to ground and pound to tko stoppage to kicking someone in the nuts like everything and and someone's got to put that together and then it's got to be coded where it plays at the right time it really is uh amazing yeah it's it's goddamn amazing i um but red red dead's like really insane is this it there's uh what is this this this is a guy oh this guy's just smoking a cigar yeah dude it's so

72:14funny the the things that go on in this game the the ability to kill people i i had uh louis j gomez on the show and he he plays this and uh he there's like a morality direction you could take you could either be a good guy a bad guy really good really bad and it will affect how the course of the game and and whether you're wanted whether people are nice to you really yeah yeah like you could do a favor for somebody you'd be riding somewhere and someone would go please could you help me out and yeah if you can help the women's rights activist that's not her but he's going to throw this lady off of the mountain and this is just some guy online has done this oh oh yeah i think this is the same youtube visit he does he's got a lot of videos right here oh geez he fell different things oh he fell off he fell himself he was trying to kick her off and but uh and lewis apparently would kill

73:05everybody he killed a guy's dog and skinned it in front of him and then shot him in the face like that's really mean that's really mean dog in front of the guy yeah yeah and the guy's just like crying it's brutal how i mean do you think that most politicians or most people looking for outrage are just not aware of this yet yeah absolutely not years ago they were kind of like well it must be violent video games and it was so funny because like 10 years after doom like they're showing doom on tv like oh that's the bad video game it's like jesus because that's nothing what are you talking about and now like uh like i said yeah yeah same guys yeah yeah gta i did some of the voices in gta 4 and 5. it was hilarious so i know yeah to do that i sang some of the uh promotional songs for the beer and piss washer beer it was great i know laszlo who does all the sound for the uh the

74:00games but uh this thing sold like 750 million dollars in the first three days that came out jamie what happens if you bring a black man to the kkk they have they have kkk right rally going on yeah there's a part of the game where you have to uh infiltrate so what happens when you bring a black guy looking different happened really the clan no they don't freak out not not in particular they didn't act any different but the job i think the mission here is to just kill all the clan guys it's not like you join up and have a good time it seems like it would be more realistic is if you brought a black eye to the clan meaning they try to kill the black guy right right but that would be real that would be crazy there are some weird uh parts in it where they're very misogynistic because it's supposed to be like 1899 or something right and it's very misogynistic and then there's some race

74:50references that they make that are kind of like wow that's that's bold like what do they say uh about black guy like they'll call him boy in some of the uh when a guy like a non-player character will pass by and be kind of nasty and uh they never present it in a good way it's not like you know oh cool this guy's great uh it's always some scumbag uh character wow yeah i love games it's like the last frontier for chaos right now yeah it really is and i think because there's such a lack of awareness on the part of a lot of people like i i get games the day they come actually before i get alpha testing beta testing i'm playing the games months before they come out really yeah i love it i get in on that uh you sign up for uh uh the ultimate package on origin or steam and you get access to the games when they uh when they're testing them mostly just pay yeah yeah it's a pay thing obviously

75:48they want to make some some money and i want to play the games early but uh you report bugs and things yeah yeah yeah they you just play they automatically kind of have something in place that will let them know if there's a problem or you can email them say hey you know i died and i'm stuck in a rock now up to my waist have you ever talked to some of the people that make those things you ever have them on your show yeah yeah laszlo uh works at rockstar he's uh the sound engineer guy he records all the sound but he's involved in like every aspect of all those games from the beginning of grand theft auto the first red dead red dead two um and uh it's amazing i've been to rockstar in new york and uh took a tour of the place and it's just a bunch of nerds sitting around they have a day where you know you can bring your dogs in and it's all wide open no cubicles or anything

76:39the guys that run it are these english guys and uh they're brilliant or new zealand or something uh they have that accent one of those weird accents that you can't tell where it's from they worked insane hours yeah yeah that's they are dedicated like a game like like a rock star game gta or or that it's so above other games like like you can't even i've played some shitty games where i download it i start playing and within five minutes i'm like ah this sucks like it just you know it sucks right and rockstar games are just you know it sounds like i'm doing a spot for them but uh they're so above everything else the animation the the uh sandbox quality where you're able to just run around and do like that's an appeal that i people don't like feeling like they're on a track right in a game and uh certain games uh are like that like call of duty is very track based you know

77:36you play online a lot against other people they're small maps uh but a game like that you could just go off if you want to you could just spend time fishing like you could just get tackle and go to a lake and fish and you can catch fish you catch fish it it's yeah you can spend eight hours just catching fish just fishing hunting you can go out and hunt i've heard that you track like the bear and and that can you saw like can get you i love games like that though i love open-ended games i always liked that even uh when i was uh back in the 80s uh my cousin got a atari 800 computer and it had a cartridge for a game called star raiders and this was like right after star wars came out and i was fascinated because it wasn't just a joystick and a button that you got on an arcade game it was you used the keyboard like for warp drive or you had a dock with a a

78:32space station at one point and you're you're put going in orbit around a planet like there was all these things that you used the keyboard for and i thought that was amazing like i don't like just a run and gun type thing right i like being able to use a lot of different keys and have a lot of options how much time do you spend playing video games dude i'm getting the impression it's insane there have been days where i have uh weekends or something where i have played from maybe 2 p.m till 3 a.m like 12 13 hours of of playing it's no eating yeah yeah i'll eat i have a little snack a little snack i'll order something or missy will make something she's playing video games too though like i'll be playing on the computer that's in front of me on the table i was talking about in the living room and then on the big screen tv which is in front of me on the wall

79:25she's sitting in a like a folding chair with a tv tray playing red dead redemption on the uh xbox so we're just gonna occasionally look back how you doing back there oh you got to see this great kill we got a video a funny video of uh a couple engaging in virtual reality and they're having sex and the girl's blowing the guy and in the video joey diaz comes in the room oh there was well there is vr porn have you checked that out i haven't it's really interesting there there's there is some that is pretty amazing like uh a girl will come up like you're laying on your back and a girl is in the room she takes her clothes off and comes up on you and gets right by your ear and like whispers something and and you hear it you almost feel the breath on you it's that crazy and you you feel like you can reach and touch but you know there's no one there but and again you can't even get close to

80:30showing what it's like on a regular flat screen but uh when you put that in it's a real space it's 3d and they look pretty real aside from the resolution difference because when you when you magnify something that close to your eyes the the pixels get bigger too so uh it's not quite there but you can see where that's going you get that and one of those fleshlights i used a really early really early version of the htc vive many years ago duncan had one my friend duncan trussell had one in his house and it was really pixelated and it was very strange it was just a real simple game and it was real blocky looking it looked like like old doom or something right but it was in complete three dimensions and so i was looking up and looking all around like wow this is kind of crazy and then i went back to his place like two years later and there had been a gigantic leap and

81:25improved and now the leaf is sort of balanced out it's not it's it hasn't gotten that much better right yet yeah there are a few games uh that i love playing on on uh the oculus because it's like flying games are incredible um and if you have a really good system with uh i have like dual 1080 ti graphics cards one of them is insane to have and my assistant has two of them and so i could run everything on ultra so do you prefer videos uh on a computer yeah yeah i i prefer pc but i'll play on xbox and stuff uh it's pretty cool uh i'm terrible with the controller yeah that's the problem right so mouse and the keyboard is so much more precise i got a yeah i always say i go if anyone ever argues i go i've never missed a folder on my desktop yeah i've never gone oh i missed it uh but there's something called uh an apa uh uh zim apex that you plug into an xbox or a playstation

82:27and then plug keyboard mouse into it you're running on xbox with a keyboard and mouse so and it's so i destroy people uh when i play on that because much more accuracy so much more accuracy and uh you're just quicker reflexes and yeah cause i came from the online video game days of the early 2000s and the 90s like it was always complete yeah mouse and keyboard was was it uh console was for babies yeah well they weren't good back then no no accuracy was terrible yeah i uh when when i play some of the um like combat flying games they have things now that are you look like you're in in the cockpit of a plane all the gauges work they have reflections of light coming through i mean the ground looks amazing and in vr when you pull the stick back and turn because i use a joystick and a throttle it's it's amazing uh you can look over your shoulder and now you're seeing your wing and the ground

83:28and you're pulling back and you get dizzy like you get so dizzy and crashes are startling like like if you lose control and you plow into the ground you kind of jump because it's you know you're just it's i think it's that primal part of your head going like accepting what it's seeing i wonder if that would be a really good way to learn how to fly i would imagine it would be that guy that stole that plane up in uh was it portland mm-hmm um recently yes slammed into the island killed himself yeah killed himself he said he learned how to fly on a semi flight simulator microsoft um flight simulator x is is like unbelievable and he was doing like loop-de-loops in the sky yeah he's like let's see if we could do a loop and he was saying i'm gonna kill myself right oh yeah yeah he's like yeah i think uh i'll do a i'll try to do a loop and then nose it in and call it a day

84:22it's like what a maniac but the fact that he could get access and take off like that is kind of scary whoops we all think uh you know everything's so secure yeah remember when we thought there were like missiles on the roof of the white house and the pentagon and stuff and then after 9 11 you're like yeah i guess not yeah i guess that was all the actual pentagon got hit yeah yeah plane by a plane although now you're gonna get a lot of uh people writing this wasn't a plane bro was it was a missile everyone knows it you're a gatekeeper yeah you're a shell you're a shill for the you um doesn't who who does your show that is a flat earther eddie bravo eddie bravo that's it i don't know if he's still a flat earther he might have abandoned him he might have moved on what do you think thank you still yeah yeah yes he thought the earth is a dis maybe he said i think i don't want to

85:13misinterpret what he's saying i don't want to misrepresent i think he was saying he doesn't know but he doesn't believe nasa because it's only someone's word over history eddie likes that he's he thinks it's fun he thinks conspiracy okay well they are yeah they are kind of fun but that flat earth one i realized i was arguing with flat earthers on twitter and that's when i really started going like what what am i doing yeah you can't what am i doing why am i engaging that that is like the dumbest version of i know you are but what am i for the rest of time yes that's how stupid that argument is it's uh it's crazy i i was talking i was arguing with somebody and then i had my show to do and um neil degrasse tyson was taping his show in my studio before i came on so he was in the lobby when i was um in our green room when when i was on i start talking about it

86:07and i go you know let's get someone in here maybe that might have a an opinion on this neil degrasse dyson coming and apparently he gets all the time from flat earthers saying that it's you know he's full of you know it all started off as a goof it had to just like everything else but it started off on 4chan did it yeah like free bleeding yes exactly which is hilarious people explain that to people don't know free bleeding is a woman's rights thing and it's uh instead of using a tampon during their period or a pad they just bleed through their pants and show it proudly that they will walk around bleeding and it was never real it was never a real thing and then people uh saw it and thought it was real like they they put it out there 4chan and people actually believed it and no not just believed it started started doing it yes they started doing it for real yeah they

87:00turned it into something women's rights badge of honor to have a pair of white pants on the giant patch of brownish red in the center it's insane it's crazy it just shows you how easily manipulated people are there's so many things that happen like that on 4chan that turn out to be goofs they start out as goofs yeah you know and and then they well listen we were talking about this last time i was with you right the proud boys yeah yeah started off as a goof and then became like what the i mean they won't let him in australia now have you seen that no it's it's gotten insane yeah like gavin is considered uh like a war criminal at this point uh i know gavin very well he he used to be on compound media my my network um and that's where the whole thing started except as a joke explain how it all started because people don't know it's it's amazing when you think about

87:55it because it makes you question everything like how did how did nazi germany start was that a joke was that like stalinism and everything uh in russia gavin uh had a show very outrageous gavin is one of these just a funny outrageous guy his whole career has been based on satire and parody and yes and he's very much a provocateur right provocateur absolutely yeah loves shaking people it's hard to find out where he really how he really feels and when he's playing games right it's very blurry absolutely so we have uh we have this employee uh ben ratner little kid we we actually hired him just because his name was ratner and we wanted to call him rat like in uh fast times hey rant why don't you turn on the camera uh so was it was great uh he rat never talked about girls he's like this really jewish real red hair kind of gangly you know kid and uh he like going to broadway shows and

88:56things and we always questioned his sexuality and whatnot and uh gavin really started hitting on him going what are you doing like get laid a kid your age should be out there you're just plowing through and he's like um you know waiting for the right girl and everything so gavin would continuously goof on him so he he would always go to broadway play so gavin started getting uh music from musicals and playing it to him like hey look at this your you know is this what you like and one of them was proud of your boy it's a broadway a song from a musical uh a disney musical i believe and it's like oh proud of your boy it's one of those big grandiose broadway pieces of i can't stand that stuff man i hate it it's so confusing oh it is it's terrible uh so he goofed on about that and then said we ought to make a club called the proud boys and that way you can learn how to be a

89:55man and you know you you'll get chicks and tattoos and you know drink beer and hang out with guys as a joke it was like this parody of a men's club and so over the top that it was like i think part of the way to get beaten into this gang this club was that you had to recite five breakfast cereals while the other members punched you and they would keep punching you until you spit so ludicrous so ridiculous such a parody uh and slowly this thing mutated into something it got more members uh they started wearing um what are those shirts the with the yellow piping on the collar and stuff it's a specific shirt that became the uniform peri ellis perry ellis shirts a specific black shirt with gold piping and uh on the collar and and the uh the sleeves and that became like the uniform and because it was presented as a chauvinistic club like like girls are allowed minorities are

91:05allowed it doesn't matter who we are but in essence it is a guy thing and we will talk about girls and we're going to drink and get laid and it's just a men thing so they started getting together at bars you know in the area in manhattan and how is this organized this is organized through his compound media show through the compound media show and his own twitter account and on facebook which he subsequently lost he's a persona non-grata on social media but that's how it started and it never was supposed to go any further than that gavin himself didn't really take it any further than that it's just let's get together every so often we have a good time we drink laugh everything like that well then this whole thing with uh politics got involved because antifa which is anti-fascist started uh uh coming into uh conservatives that wanted to to speak so gavin was a conservative as a

92:05conservative he'd get uh speaking engagements at schools uh nyu or um any any numerous places around new york city and antifa would show up to protest him and try to shut down the event so then the proud boys would go and protect gavin so he wouldn't get harmed doing these uh speaking engagements uh and that so then it turned into this because they're fighting with antifa they must be the fa the fascists right the nazis um and once that gets out there there's no pulling it back you could try to explain how you're not a nazi until you're blue in the face it ain't going away and especially because it's a good story the press likes it it's this good versus evil thing they present antifa like they're pro they always call him and the protesters were beaten they're violent a violent group of people that are there to to hit people they don't agree with and silence people that want to speak

93:05and that's exactly what happened with gavin and ann coulter and milo yiannopoulos uh uh ben shapiro a lot of these conservative people can't go to these venues and speak they get shut down because of a violent group of people called antifa so proud boys were kind of the answer to that so gavin could go around and actually uh speak well when that happened more people uh came on board because they kind of liked to beat people up uh when you have a gang a group of people and one of their missions is now to beat up people you don't agree with politically when there was two well that's there was tears to the membership like the highest tier was you fought for the cause right right you actually get in a fist fight yeah yeah i'm sure gavin thought was like i've talked to gavin i like gavin i've had gavin on the podcast yeah and the last time i had him on i didn't know what this whole thing was

93:58and he was explaining the proud boys and he was talking to me about we're gonna punch them we're gonna punch people yeah i was like whoa whoa whoa and i was like did you don't you can't just punch people like they they punch back and then you get they get mad that you punch them and they shoot you when you get out of your car right this is this escalates people don't just take it well it was never supposed to be an offensive punching uh when when i would speak to gavin and every example i would see it was an answer to violence they they would have violence perpetrated on that problem and all that people needed to say is he's calling for violence that's it and that's what they've said about gavin over and over again right taking things out of context and use it as an example the other problem being that the anti-fun people are a lot of skinny dudes and chicks with masks on and they are

94:47not really that adept at fighting there's a horrible video of this one antifa guy tries to hit someone with it looks like some kind of a stick or a pipe yeah and the guy catches it and blasts him on the chin and put him down and his head bounces off the concrete unconscious yeah how a lot of people die yeah yeah exactly that's how people die in fights like oh he killed him with his bare hands yeah he hit his head on yeah he hit his head on the concrete you get hit by the world it's literally the world right right gravity gravity has punched you in the back of the head yeah so yes these people have this idea that they're going to go places they're going to shut everybody down and because they're in a group yeah they're going to scream and yell and hit people with bike locks and all this right stuff yeah the weird thing is that that's from the left that was never from the left

95:36before when i was a kid i grew up um when i was from age 7 11 during the vietnam war i lived in san francisco and i was around the real hippies and i remember being a little kid you know i remember my formative times like there were flower children i mean they were right the hippies and the lefties were love and peace and no violence and everyone was doing acid right and now they're all in adderall and they're hitting people with bike locks yeah it's a different thing there was a time where the liberals the hippies the you know they they were the ones that when there would be a demonstration and and the national guard would show up they'd be putting flowers in the barrels of the guns there were famous pictures of that and then kent state was a bunch of hippies literally getting shot by the national guard the national guard yeah that has completely flipped around it's the weirdest thing

96:30and i don't know how it got distinguished where proud boys became this evil group of people and and antifa is the good group of people now i understand that proud boy uh proud boys were infiltrated by white nationalists yes nazi white supremacist whatever it is but those were constantly being disavowed by gavin gavin never wanted any of that happening but is there a way how do you get in though here's the question because this is my you saw my last comedy special this is my criticism about vegans it's not that there's anything wrong with being a vegan right when you have a group where anybody can join you're gonna get a certain amount of idiots right if you have a million people for sure you have a hundred thousand idiots yeah there's no getting around that yeah so if you have a group where anybody can join and you have a million people in that group you're gonna have a hundred thousand

97:25idiots idiots and those people are gonna define your group the worst behavior in that group is where people are gonna call to as an example that's it i think this is also a symptom of the social media era today especially with twitter because you can't express yourself and explain things 140 or 280 characters it just takes too much time so they can say oh proud boys racist scumbag nazi gavin and they're always a racist scumbag nazi yeah and all sudden that's the narrative and everybody keeps pushing it and then i see the videos of people punching little skinny people oh look at these people they beat up the antifa yeah these and gavin's an yeah that's that's what it comes down to i've seen it presented uh well you ask how it starts and how it grows and how you become a member by buying a shirt that's it by buying a perilla shirt and opening a chapter dude there are chapters worldwide

98:18you you see it it's like here's the the proud boys australia here's the proud boys england proud boys japan like it's everywhere and it never was supposed to get to that point and regardless of how these people act it now reflects on gavin even though he wanted to hang out in a bar with a few people do his public speaking without being hassled and that's it and and i see the way the media manipulates things i've been party to it myself and and i've seen gavin present it in photos where you look and go holy it's hitler like like they get him there's one picture of gavin that i was petrified by he's got his arms folded he's got a scowl on his face that hair you know the short on the side long on the top and he's looking like like he's angry and i'm like that that's not the guy that him and his wife who's american indian by the way yeah his wife's american indian he's got

99:14beautiful kids that come over my house and use the pool and we hang out and barbecue i'm like that's not that guy no one knows that guy from the paper they're getting this impression he's a really nice guy he's he's a generous just a really cool guy to hang out with and what you see them do in the media is just crazy especially when you know he didn't invent some goddamn nazi group he was just trying to have a little outrageous fun and it ran from him it got away from him the the origin of it though yeah the way you're describing it that is fantastic isn't that nuts it's crazy that that is what presented i mean that that emerged it just came out of that we we with rat all the time because we go can you believe the inspiration for the proud boys is this little jewish kid where is that guy photo of him online he oh i'm sure there is compound media rat you'll probably find him uh

100:16how much does this weird you out though that compound media was the source of all this it is weird like and it's one of those things you worry about like like i i don't want to then be taught because i know how it works i love gavin but i don't want to be tied to the proud boys at this point you know i got my own problems through history i don't need any more uh piled on me but what was that thing that i sent you that there he is there he is that's a rat i guess that was halloween look at you what's this i was wearing that's the suit that was i was the mayor from jaws oh mayor vaughn i was for halloween that's awesome that's the god that started the proud he started the proud boys he looks like a 1938 propaganda poster it's a little cutie it's like a norman rockwell painting that's it he should be there with like a like a guy who's handing him an apple pie

101:06yeah yeah and that's that's the face of the new nazi movement i think there's a lot of mistakes were made yeah but gavin's gavin's made some mistakes and like his his whole thing of of not of blurring the lines between parody and honesty it's he thinks it's fun it's very punk rock yeah like he came last time he's on the podcast was a few years back he came on dressed like michael douglas from falling down he had a briefcase he brought the suit like the short sleeves he dresses like that all the time now like he goes around i i just i just did a skype interview with him uh yesterday two days ago uh from the hotel room and yeah he's got the pocket protector and the pens and the glasses yeah like falling down he thinks it's funny well people need to understand and this is true he is the godfather of the hipsters yeah you put in godfather of hipsters yeah all of that wardrobe that guys are

102:04wearing they look like they're wearing old-timey suits with the skinny ties yeah that's gavin mcginnis yeah literally started that fashion trend in williamsburg yeah and they it took off from there the the hipster dress the way people would dress with those weird mustaches and all that yeah that literally came out of gavin gavin it which is amazing the is he is like a yeah there's something like magnetic about the guy he is what a cult leader is like he could just start a cult which in essence by accident he did yeah between the hipsters and then this he's one of those guys like like gavin why don't you start why didn't you start a cult where you get to the people's wives like that kind of cult why why do you go with well he also did some really good interviews online yeah yeah where he would trick these leftists into sitting down with him in interviews and along the way

103:02they were having this conversation it would be exposed that he didn't agree with them at all and they were trapped like this hardcore feminist got trapped with them and yeah a couple other people get trapped in this room with him yeah and they they realize like halfway like some of the line of questioning and the way he's approaching things like oh my god like he's an interesting guy he's very interesting and outside of this proud boys thing he never never invented that yeah he never did any of that he would be doing great yeah although he had a problem with one of one of his own companies that he made after vice they they bought him out of vice because uh shane turned more liberal and and it wasn't really they weren't really meshing anymore over their advice so they kind of just bought out uh gavin he he got a lot of money and decided to do his own thing

103:49he uh had an advertising firm i guess it was yeah uh and then he got the boot from that for making uh trans uh gender uh comments well he was talking about transgender people have mental health mental health issues he was bringing up all these here's the problem he was he was saying some things that are correct yeah interspersed with again parody and sarcasm but in his mind this was like just this is something you can talk about where it was in the public side particularly during the caitlyn jenner yeah the whole thing people had decided that transgender was amazing it's amazing it's beautiful she's incredible and he was saying no these are people that are mentally ill and there's and uh there's a website that he was pointing to i think it's called transgender regrets or something like that yeah where they have all these stories of all these men who turned into women and turned

104:39back to men again now they don't have dicks oh jesus and they have to take testosterone injections and they hate their life and there's some of them who did it like when they're in their 60s and now another in their 70s and trying to be a man again and and that gender dysphoria was thought to be a mental health issue like anorexia like a lot of other right there's there's body dysphoria i mean people have weird um you know uh bodybuilders get it they they never think they're big enough right yeah people have like weird perceptions of their physical presence in their being and some uh i had a psychologist dr debra so who was discussing late onset gender dysphoria in autistic girls that autistic teenage girls they don't feel like they fit in and people can convince them that they're actually a man wow and so a lot of them start taking hormones and and going through transition and then have

105:30massive regrets and then unfortunately for women when especially when you're a teenager and you're going through puberty and you take hormones you literally start developing male features your face gets harder and thicker and wider your shoulders get bigger like the whole deal your hands yeah your grows the size of a thumb you so you you make these irreversible changes or unless yeah yeah you know so you just described jim norton's dream girl yeah perfect this he's a perfect jim norton's i love him to death he's a perfect example too of someone who's bulletproof because that's what he is he's uh he's charming like like in his his debauchery he's he's a charming guy yes girls love him and think he's adorable when he's saying some of the most heinous on stage and yeah and on the air and stuff he's you know where he's coming from yeah yeah well there's no mistaking like he

106:26he wears everything on his sleeve so uh he wrote the forward in in my book permanently suspended he wrote the forward he knows me like it's my brother first and then jim norton yeah like jim knows me really well we're we're really good friends and i love the guy why didn't you guys wind up doing a show together when opium anthony crashed uh i i think look i can't blame anybody because i i think that having the security of uh a steady paycheck as opposed to the guy that just got thrown off of everything opening starting his own thing uh it probably wasn't all that appealing to jimmy who you know you just bought a new place uh in the city and everything is it just uh it wasn't the right time and then you know as time went on he became the go-to guy over at sirius um from the opium anthony show so uh i would love to and i do his chip chipperson show and you know we're doing um

107:26we're doing one in philly next week the live show yeah we've been doing these live shows on long island we did one up in boston and it's hilarious he comes out and the crowd goes wild and he's got to be in character the whole time it's got to kill him it's got to kill him and and it's so much fun to do i love playing the the straight guy co-host to his insane character but uh yeah we've done these live shows and they're they're really a lot of fun um and he's just a he's a great guy there he is my god it's so ridiculous he's got to stay in look at those pants yeah that is hilarious dude the place is like packed and it's crazy what are you guys reading what are the notes oh he he wanted us to he wrote he wrote like a uh almost a play but it's all just kissing chip's ass and how wonderful chip is and how thankful we are to be there like it's so goddamn funny i i love it

108:31he's uh he's brilliant man he's he's just a great guy and very funny i knew from the first i think that also uh kind of i'm not blaming jimmy or anything but i think that helped to kind of break up the o a show in time i think opie started resenting a little bit of that camaraderie that me and jimmy were having um me and jimmy kind of slowly started pulling away and doing our own thing like it was uh and and the humor is you know the the more twisted the better i love sick humor he does too and we laugh we did a whole bit on on like lacey peterson and scott peterson the murder yeah and you would think like obviously he murdered his pregnant wife and dumped her in the ocean what could possibly be funny about that well people wrote tribute songs well this guy wrote a tribute song to her and another one of these self-centered that thought he was gonna go viral by making a tribute song and

109:30we started changing the words to the song to make it just horrible involving seaweed and things so it was terrible but me and jim are literally crying laughing and opie's just kind of sitting there like not really able to jump in or not kind of getting why we're laughing at this sick uh so it it kind of pushed us further apart um at that point yeah we we both as people changed over the course of uh the 20 years we worked together 20 years with anybody dude is is nuts you get a girl that suck your dick every day for 20 years you're gonna be like oh stop sucking my dick but but now it's i think it's open across from me you know yeah uh so you're gonna get on each other's nerves and i i'm not innocent in the whole thing either uh but i was i'm a lot more laid back like i i knew what real work was i worked for living i did heating and air conditioning installation

110:29and it was freezing cold in the winter and boiling hot in the summer and when i got that first gig in radio because of opie i'll always thank him for that uh i knew what it was like to work and i didn't want to that up so i plastered a smile on my face at every turn and did the show four hours a day everyone has someone at work that they don't get along with you don't leave you don't you know you just deal with it and that's eight hours i had another 20 hours of the day that didn't involve greg opie hughes so i could deal with it uh he was more like he had to express himself a little more which i guess is healthy in a way but uh i didn't need to so i didn't i didn't text him i didn't call him i uh he we got in an argument once and he goes dude you never even been to my house and i go all right get everyone from the show in here jim have i ever been to the house nope

111:26travis no sam no erock no i've never been to anyone's house let me tell you something right now yeah that's something a chick would say i know you've been in my house dude it's exactly what you've been to my house type of relationship what does that mean what is it even the moon i've never been to africa what the are you saying i've never been to spain what does that have to do with anything that we if if you had a problem with me not coming to your house why didn't you ask me to come to your house yeah like is there like you asking me every day and i'm saying no everything and i was saying no right right what's going on it was always something like that and believe me i'm not going to sit here and on the guy that my show's for that uh i'm not gonna i'm around i'm not gonna on the guy but there were definitely personality quirks that i guess we both had but there was something like

112:12if if i i i would party all the time and and you know i had to be there at 6 00 a.m and i'm driving from rosalind long island to new york city it's it's 25 30 miles of just traffic every day he had to take you to get there it could be 35 minutes it could be an hour and a half based on if someone's pulled over on the side of the road some crashes in queens whatever it was it was uh it was a drive every day and you had to be there at six right six o'clock the show started and so even at six there'd be that kind of traffic yeah yeah there's it wasn't as bad as it got it like seven or eight but it you never really knew right it could it could i was never late late but there were times i'd come in at five after uh eight after six was pretty much as late as i would i would be it was never more than that but he would go like he never had to say anything like the music starts there's a little

113:10uh bumper at the beginning and by the time it starts i'd i'd sit down and he on mike would go um well i guess there was traffic anthony just getting in and now the bosses are listening and it was it just wasn't necessary to do that you know it kind of i was like you wanted something you gotta talk about guys don't do that guys don't do that to each other you sit down don't say a word no one would know i'm late you know and that's what happened and it there were instances like that all the time it's all in my book permanently suspended uh there's that book out now it's out now uh yeah borders uh barnes and noble we think we have a copy in the green room oh yes very good uh but but i taught it's at my house it's in my house i talk a lot about uh obviously the relationship and and uh with opie and and how it kind of slowly uh came apart at the seams um i think toward the end

114:07uh he just had had it he didn't want to do a show with with me anymore i i don't think he wanted to do a show with jimmy either that didn't last long and i knew it wasn't going to last long they i was the buffer between the two of them that ended bad it really did it really did uh if you talk to jimmy about it like yeah yeah like he he doesn't he doesn't express that kind of no yeah no he doesn't like jimmy's a very loyalty driven guy like he takes that very seriously and if he feels somebody's with him he really gets pissed uh usually it can get talked out and everything's cool after a little while uh but this one this this is bad it didn't work yeah no no i think honestly the way you guys interacted with each other what he was good for was sort of directing the whole thing right that's the impression that i got in the i mean how many times did i do the show dozens right yeah yeah

115:06i don't know how many times it did absolutely but i always felt like what he did really well was like sort of guide things like sit back more let you guys be funny but but guide like figure out like maybe we need more of this maybe we need more of that yeah there's real value to that absolutely but do you think that's fun when you go out and do an appearance and everyone's clamoring about a bit that me and jimmy did or something for him yeah and he's sitting there going like well i i pushed a button and i drove the ship and i you know went to spots and if he knew it's it's it's funny because like yeah you're not gonna be appreciated right as much but it's like a guy who uh is good at defense but he doesn't score a lot of points yeah yeah yeah you're not gonna be lebron james it's necessary guys who score the points though are the ones who everybody wants to talk

116:00to you yeah you ever see uh i i i think of opie like um you ever see the prestige the movie the prestige uh with the the two magicians no and it's it's it's a good movie it's a good movie but at one point uh because he has to use a body double uh the actual magician has to drop below the stage and the body double comes out and gets all the applause and he's under the stage the real guy that did the whole act is under the stage and he shuts his eyes and puts his arms out like trying to enjoy the adulation from the fans but it's not even him getting it and i think that kind of mindset was there there's and then resentment starts bubbling up and you start doing things like saying anthony just got in um you you hold things over people's heads the contract negotiations were a nightmare every time and opie always wanted a one-year deal i'm like what the are you doing

117:03let's sign for 10 years who gives a you know if they want to fire they're gonna fire anyway contract or not but let's lock them in so if something happens at least we have uh a settlement portion we could take half the the what they owe us for five years whatever it is not one year deal that's all i want because he always had this delusion of grandeur like there was always something better waiting uh for us to grab up and it's like the truth of the matter was the the glory years of the o a show were gone the new years and the you know all that crazy radio we were damaged goods after the sex in st patrick's cathedral debacle we had a couple um we had a contest where people had to go around new york city and have sex at various famous locations like the hard rock cafe and uh empire state building things like that we had spotters who were comics or people that worked for the show

117:57follow them around and they would call us on the show and go all right we're here at the empire state building and he's doing it i'm watching him right now so we had paul mercurio who was uh a comic and and he uh was following one couple around and uh opiate put church on the list um and i went like oh i don't know man he goes it's just to read on the air and say like what locations are and when we say church people go like whoa that's outrageous but no one's gonna go to church don't worry well paul calls up and goes well we're here at st pats and he's uh doing the two-point conversion you got an extra two points if you were her in the ass at the location because they all had point values for how dangerous it was uh pat was watching to be sure that it went in the house paul paul was watching yeah yeah the spotter was supposed to watch so he had to watch this guy his girl in the ass

118:48yeah yeah there was a lot of theater of the mind going on too who knows what the they were doing or where i heard i hear it was in the vestibule outside saint pat's but regardless it's sex at st pats right and uh me and if we looked at each other we both had digital delay like the delay button uh seven second we had like a 30 second delay we both had buttons in front of us there was another guy in a locked room down the hall that had a button to dump out of because we were constantly doing that would have gotten fcc complaints so the boss installed these buttons everywhere well we both had our finger on it going like do we punch out of this it's hilarious guys his girl in the ass at saint pat's uh and neither of us hit the button and the guy down the hall didn't hit it we just went with it and that moment is like that is one of those moments like talk about a defining moment

119:40you move your finger one inch down and that never happens it it's amazing to to think about what year was this uh 2002 i believe 2000 it was yeah we it was 9 11. uh we we went through 9 11 on the air and stuff and then i guess that summer maybe what year did you guys wind up on xm uh 2004 i think it was we had to sit out two years out of our contract uh not working they didn't want us to go to mornings because uh clear channel radio which was another radio company uh and cbs were were kind of fighting for us uh clear channel wanted us to do mornings against howard stern who was on cbs uh we worked for cbs at the time doing afternoons so we we were put in a position where they were both just throwing huge amounts of money at us and cbs was like we can't let them go to mornings it would be impossible to beat howard but we would take enough listeners away where he might not be

120:44number one anymore that affects revenue you know you want to you want to sell the show as the number one rated show uh so cbs was doing anything they could to keep us in afternoons with the same company as howard so it was the most lucrative contract we ever signed it was a three-year deal we signed it in i guess 2001 and after one year they canceled the show because of the sex at st pat's thing that blew up i mean it was in the newspapers it was i had to look at opie and dopey on the front page of i'm like i'm dopey ugh i gotta be dopey i was so embarrassing my family and everything was just nuts so uh the cbs was like well we cancelled your show but we're not letting you out of your contract like what does that mean we talk to our agent he goes well you can't work they're not letting you work you'll still get paid and dude i'm talking millions of dollars this was

121:40millions of dollars that they had to give us for two years but you'd think like oh that's awesome and back then there was no internet to speak of like like you had no way to contact your fans well you could have a website which is what yeah one of the ways that we became friends is i wrote about you guys right yeah yeah i wrote a big piece on my website about how ridiculous it was yeah yeah a lot of people supported us but it got uh in two years you just disappear on the radio it's if you're not doing a show and you're out you will go away they will find something else so we were really worried about that and again damaged goods so no one was really clamoring to hire us anyway uh but we went through two years where i was just making huge amounts of money and just buying toys i would go i went to atlantis for a couple of weeks and in the bahamas and

122:36i was literally i was pulling my luggage to leave at the uh the desk and i go to my chick i go what do we where why are we going home he goes okay i said can i have the room for another two weeks like okay went back upstairs and just stayed for a month it's like i have no reason why am i going home after two weeks you're so conditioned like how long a vacation is right uh and and that lasted for for two years and then the satellite came calling which was we considered radio prison at that point it was radio jail anybody that because everyone that had up in regular radio ended up in satellite like no one wanted to be in satellite radio at the time they had no subscribers me and opi sat on the side of uh the the belt parkway once by my house in brooklyn and we were like let's see how many satellite radio antennas we see because they used to be very obvious shark fin

123:29big antennas aftermarket they stuck them and drilled them into your roof it was terrible the installation process was stupid no one wanted to get their car up with this dumb antenna so we're looking at like nothing and then oh look there's one and you know the money's one thing obviously but as a broadcaster you want to be talking to people you know you want you want to entertain people you want people to say wow that was good and there was just no subscribers back then during our 10 years there it wound up getting very very good and and uh we had a lot of listeners but uh early on no one but satellite was calling and uh we we signed you know we signed the deal um but we we definitely would have preferred terrestrial radio yeah it's interesting now right because now satellite satellite became a big thing when howard got on it and people were talking about it and

124:27then it became a big thing because every new car you would buy you'd get a free 90 days or whatever yeah but now no one gives a yeah it's it's one of the most short-lived technologies not that it's gone i think it'll always be there in some capacity man it is clinging by a thread so many other um that's why they bought pandora i guess oh yeah there's so many other streaming outlets out there and the fact and podcast the fact that podcasts are all free yeah yeah and then you could play them in a tunnel right name everywhere it doesn't peter out on you and uh you know you get that signal constantly now so it's it's not like the old days uh every time you get in the car like you're yeah your system identifies your phone and then when it links up and commercials i remember when they started playing commercials like what the is this i'm paying so you can play commercials you out of your mind

125:24yeah that was uh it was supposed to be uh commercial free they all talk about commercial pre and then it ends up oh if you're listening to 70s on seven i guess you won't have to listen to a commercial but even then i think they have commercials yeah yeah they started throwing commercials on everything so yeah um yeah short-lived uh technology it's weird and then to put all of your eggs in in a couple of baskets that are circling the earth always seemed weird to me well not only that you can't get it in hawaii i think i told you guys when i when i went to hawaii on vacation i got a car that had sirius xm built into it it didn't work yeah yeah it's like what the is this you have to deal with a satellite orbiting the you know something happens to the transmitter on a terrestrial station they send an engineer up there he turns a few screws or what have you you know something up in a

126:14satellite what are you going to do what are you going to do you know howard going to get in a rocket and fix the it's really dumb technology at this point yeah it's totally unnecessary unnecessary the fact that sirius is still transmitted from a thing in the sky down to the ground yeah yeah and then it's transmitted from the people on the ground up into the sky and then back down to the people on the ground yeah yeah that's what's going on it's so so unnecessary just the people on the ground can just send it to the people on the ground on the ground why wouldn't you super easy yeah especially in this day and age with uh but they're still doing it it's very weird yeah yeah it is they're gonna have to do something um the model i don't know like i said buy pandora you know maybe start scooping up internet companies but that's what they're gonna do i think they're gonna

127:02move towards that direction yeah i think that's all they have you know what's really weird though is like the am radio is still a thing like like that's the weirdest thing to me the the death knell for radio has been it's been forever like the second another technology came out it was like well i guess that's it for radio yeah television we have uh an amazing invention here and radio was supposed to be dead but it just hangs in there people just can't let it go regular radio especially am man i remember as a kid my dad having the am like music on the am radio sounded like it was coming out of a tin can static and and that was kind of all you had i drove home like like a year ago and just on a goof i decided to uh put on am radio and i was listening to an am radio show and i had a big smile on my face all the way home because it was like i was listening to the past

127:59yeah yeah it's like a time machine right yeah it was some weird one of the local talk shows a weird local talk show in la where they were talking about traffic and the dodgers game and this and that it's archaic it's so strange like first of all anything with anything that is trying to inform you is just unnecessary at this point uh unless it's yeah fake news the the big cnn and fox news and everything those will always be a fixture and stuff but local news do you really need the the team that cares at six o'clock it's all just that you've already seen online there's not one story that will be on the six o'clock news that i don't already know in depth it's also the lowest rung of show business in terms of competence yes people that are terrible at it and they're all drunks it's hilarious dude i have never seen a group of people that can drink more than news people they they just get

129:03hammered constantly or miserable i think that's it i think they're missing she went through a whole thing when roseanne was supposed to be on the podcast and uh right after she got fired she announced that she was going to come on the podcast yes these newscasters started showing up where our old studio is actually they went to our old studio and they were parked out front with cameras and this is where i got i got upset i was like first of all you guys are terrible at this and second of all you just assume that because you're there i have to talk to you mm-hmm so because you see me i'm going to say something to you because you put your camera and your microphone in your face it doesn't work that way face yeah yeah i'm not going to talk to you you're not good at talking this is the reason why you do this yeah you don't have a job like a really good job doing this

129:49because you're not good at this you're not good at it you will one day get a really good job doing this or you're just not good at it yeah one of those because right now you're right here and i'm not talking to you this is nonsense like you're holding this camera hi we're here with cbs and four news like yeah out of here i don't have to talk to you yeah because you have a camera in front of me doesn't matter we're gonna have an interview now sometimes they feel like you're obligated to address them i'm trying to come to my house yeah yeah i've had that happen yeah it's not fun it's definitely not fun my neighbors get out here i'm not talking to you they knock on my neighbor's doors and they want to know about me and stuff and if you think like like we deal with la or new york imagine what the the news team in east alabama like that's got to be the worst they are just

130:40terrible at what they do terrible local news in some po dunk town is hilarious to watch it's one of the things that comics have to do when they come into a town yeah do local tv shows morning morning chat things as shitty as you think the view is the talk as shitty as those shows morning america pens get together these shows in like the local one in boise idaho or dallas they're at a thousand times worse worse just terrible and and i i hate that uh there's such a double standard when one of them up when a news person up they just apparently leave them alone like where was everyone with uh what's his name from from uh and was it nbc brian williams uh well brian williams they kind of got on yeah uh but uh no lauer matt lauer oh yeah like matt lauer it was in the news or anything but where was where was the mic being shoved in matt lauer's face as he's trying to go home or something i

131:41think there was some of that i think he just hid i mean he went straight to long island and went to the hamptons and he's never left but were they camping out in front of his house like yeah they did they were yeah they just he's just been banging divorcees and riding a motorcycle trying to get back on tv that is just you know what's most stunning to me is how much money he made oh yeah like i didn't know he was making that much money like that is insane and for years like for a long he's got like uh a giant ranch in new zealand that's like thousands of acres how do you decide you need that it's so crazy because he's got uh some access issues like the people that want to get to certain uh parts of um the uh public land they have to go through his ranch so there's like uh an access issue like some sort of easement where these people are supposed to be able to drive through and they're

132:29fighting it off and he should just sit at his desk with that button that opens the door but it it lifts the gate up so they could get through that button there's a misconception about that button they all had that button yeah that was yeah it was because they had big offices and they want to be able to lock their doors so they interrupted on a phone call it wasn't so they could bang chicks in the office like women executives had that button too oh okay yeah but that's the thing that it sounded very sounded very yeah audrey yes audrey indeed yeah well the media grabbed onto that and like oh my god he had a button to lock it like he's sitting there when i i don't wanna be interrupted and i wanna when i hit that button and just start some nervous girl just hears that click be a oh he hit the button yeah there was a lot of that it was like accentuated like there was a

133:16one guest that brought in a bunch of sex toys and he they he had a bag and he kept it in his office and he's like oh he keeps a bag of sex toys in his office this in this office i got a flame okay elon musk gave me a flamethrower yeah what am i going to do with it it's right there awesome buddy it's a flamethrower in his office yeah this is it's that kind of thing like if somebody gave me a bag of dildos it would be right over there next to the flamethrower he has a bag of dildos unless i made a conscious decision to throw it away or my wife found it it would wind up getting tossed but matt lauer decided to keep it in his closet yeah i don't know apparently he gave some people some i think the guy was getting laid yeah that's what i think and i i think a lot of what else happened the all the the details of it it seems to me that it's it's all of it is like very blown out of proportion

134:08i don't like that uh that that's happening because everyone is being lumped into the harvey weinstein category which is the uh that's the abuse tip of the pyramid right there cosby's the tip right right cosby is literally one yeah he's literally number one yeah yeah there was a woman who said this on i believe it was cnn or one of those talk shows she said he may very well be the biggest serial rapist in history can you even build con literally sitting back on my couch going yeah and bill cosby's the biggest serial rapist in history wow a time machine would be wonderful just to see people's expressions when you tell them like what's happening in the whole um celebrity uh forum like like yeah what's up hey guess what phil cosby's doing you ever seen a photo of howard costa oh yeah standing next to bruce jenner and oj simpson and it says i've seen the future and you're not gonna

135:06believe this yeah it's crazy when we were kids we used to watch the cosby show which is when it was when he was bill cosby the stand-up comedian that would go on hbo and everybody loved him he was america's father america's dad right there the cosby show revolutionary on television he was at that time raping women insane not just raping them but drugging them yeah yeah and it and friends daughters like people that he knew come on over i'll help you with your career wow plop yeah drop two in your drink and you're feeling okay put your feet up put your feet up and they'd be like okay i'll move it like that's why i stick my dick in your mouth and that hazy like a few of them just hazily regained consciousness for a minute and just remember seeing old bill pounding away with that flounder eye i think he got the eye later in life he's almost blind apparently

136:09yeah yeah i think i'm not sure i thought they were using that as kind of a sympathy thing but he looks pretty blind send him to the same jail they sent whitey bulger oh wow yeah how about that imagine that boy and he's he was what 95 or something like that why do you believe was he that old i think he was that old like in his 90s that's all that's a grudge that someone held on to for quite a while well the guy hated rats apparently and that was the thing that whitey bulger all throughout his time of running the irish mob was ratting people out to the eye that's what was really crazy he was another guy just like we were talking about um uh what the his name the italian guy yeah gotti uh no the other one oh oh sami he was in the mob ratting out other people in the mob while he was murdering people yeah yeah like the fbi allowed him to sell drugs and do a lot he won the lottery twice

137:05while he was doing this you know how that works how the what well somebody else would win the lottery and he would use that as a way to show income so he would pay them for their lottery ticket or steal it from him or whatever he did and then he would say look i won the lottery and then he would win the lottery so that way he would have all this money you could avoid tax evasion charges that way you could have a proof of income that's why where'd you get that boat where'd you get that cadillac where'd you get that house yeah yeah yeah that's uh that's up twice you know both to win it twice he was uh yeah he he was uh the fbi was helping him too obviously they were uh giving up uh competitors and uh well they they were responsible probably for some murders yeah yeah they would bring people to him like that that was a thing like hey we're not gonna kill anyone but we'll

137:59bring this guy to you so you could have a little chit chat and you know you're driving the guy to his death yeah uh pretty much so he was living in an apartment in santa monica with some girl just talked a lot and apparently she was yelling at him and that's that's how he got arrested like it they were like a domestic yeah there was like some screaming and yelling and they were weird and that was what got people looking at them like who the are these people and then they started i mean he wasn't even like hiding montana or anything no no right out there on a ranch somewhere in the middle of nowhere where no one's gonna be suspicious he's in santa monica in an apartment that is up crazy i don't understand like how it's got to be the the most stressful life to lead just on the run i i watch that uh some of those shows like cold case files and uh when they find these people yeah

138:51they're here inmates are saying about the brutal prison hit on whitey bulger trying to get what he had got chop off his tongue he pulled his eyes out oh my god that's like right oh 89 jesus christ yeah it's uh he definitely got what he had coming to him i don't see how anybody could argue that apparently yeah so no sympathy piece of just amazing that he's 89. made it to 89.89 patrice like 40 when he died yeah yeah yeah how's that work i i have no idea but yeah i mean he he must have been looking over shoulder constantly while still in his wheelchair he was beaten to death with what it may call shanks schlocks uh a lock in a sock is kind of a dr seuss kind of weapon while in his wheelchair before possibly having his eyes partially gouged out with shanks oh yeah that's some real assailants tried to chop off his tongue wow sometimes it works sometimes jailhouse justice actually

139:57happens you don't you don't uh you don't think it will but then it does sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes people get uh what's coming to them yeah how do we get on the subject of why the bones i i don't know we always we just ramble on about stuff i love it so okay i i love that you've established your own sort of media company i love that you decided to just yeah start your own network yeah but is it is it are there challenges like what we do is pretty simple because we just put it out there and then we put ads on it right you know and yeah or youtube puts ads on it but is it is it challenging to like i mean you you have a bunch of people like when i was there other folks were coming in and they had their shows in the studio as well and they had you change your green screen you know you should change yeah yeah it's the most convenient way to kind of instead of

140:46having a different set for every show it's a green screen and then we just pop it in uh pop in a background we could do some pretty funny things with it too we've done that i i did a reading um last week of part of my book and uh we went to an establishing shot of a cabin and i moved to a chair behind the green screen and it's just me by a little fire burning and i oh oh welcome i didn't i didn't expect you and you know so it's kind of fun to be creative with the thing um other than that yeah there are a lot of challenges it's uh i i am not i'm in front of the mic guy that's it i don't really like any of the other parts of the business this it's weird because this is the ceo of the business or i i'm the guy keith though is the guy i've delegated a lot of the responsibility as to the tech end of everything and finding the people we need to run equipment and stuff over the course of

141:41the years uh and it's worked out very well um but but it is one of those things like it's it's two companies you have the entertainment that's going into the microphone and then all the you need to get that to the people yeah and the business model and and you know billing and and all that that i can't be bothered i have video games to play i can't be bothered with that so you operate on it's a subscription people pay by the month and then you get a ton of shows they get the mike ward show yeah yeah uh mike ward who's in here last week yeah and they uh get uh aaron and gino doing in hot water is our morning show and they're just out of control they're the one show that i watch sometimes they go like oh really wow that's i wouldn't do that yeah yeah oh yeah yeah they're brutal are they comics uh yeah yeah the comics in uh in new york and they tour around um really funny guys then um

142:37so this is the this is the page with all the show on it yeah i i pilfered uh bill schultz and joanne osinski from fox news they used to be on uh fox news uh red eye and stuff oh really east side dave is uh an insane from the old uh ron and fez show what's in hot water in hot water is the morning show that's uh yeah that's aaron agino uh kevin brennan who is just a mental patient uh kevin scares me uh he yells a lot i i come into the studio and i just hear his voice booming yelling and i i get an anxiety attack like it's my dad yelling at mom back in in the old days uh yeah there's just a uh you know we we we're always looking for uh how many shows you have on shows that fit i don't know how many is that when there's no these shows available like to stream like any time you want yeah yeah every show uh most of the shows go out live i like the element of just a little danger there

143:33of of being live as it goes out me too i like that yeah and i don't know what it is but just knowing you could edit something might make you a little lazy as you're doing it yeah you can't stop you have to keep going jamie brought it up like it feels different when we've done shows that aren't live yeah yeah it does something happened we're streaming at one point in time it up and we couldn't stream so we just edited it and put it or uh um filmed it in advance rather than put it up later but it's like this feels feels weird it does it's because there's a net there's a net down there you could you could leave if you had to take a piss you could go i got to take a piss i go you know this is you're going out live this is it hi here it is uh i like i like that yeah yeah that's uh something there's a feeling that there's people listening right now right yeah and everything's archived so uh

144:22subscribers can get uh all the past shows from all the shows is available can they download audio as well as video yeah yeah audio only um uh audio and video yeah it's it's uh we give them a lot of options uh we went with subscriber based uh because when i got the boot from uh serious years ago uh i couldn't imagine people wanted me to be hawking their products in the first place uh and and i didn't want to be beholden to sponsors right i can't have anyone telling me what i can and can't say anymore just ain't gonna happen but is there an issue trying to get people like i had uh a friend who was on radio and they left and went to do a podcast they had a subscription podcast yeah and he what he was saying is it's really difficult to grow like you have to keep those people that you have you got to keep them happy and they would do things to engage with them

145:17and they would do like little events where they'd go to a bar and meet everybody and do a show from there he said but it's really hard to grow because people don't want to pay when there's all these different shows they could just get for free yeah that's uh that's always a challenge but there's also the commodity that people can't get anywhere else is entertaining shows like you could have a free show that sucks and there's plenty of those out there uh but if you're good at what you do and and you already have an audience because i i say it all the time corolla had the greatest line once he was being interviewed and someone said uh how do you how do you make a successful podcast he goes oh okay rule number one be famous and it's like yeah you gotta so i i figured if we get up and running in a month and keith uh uh figured it out that we could hold on to a lot of

146:11the ona audience that uh would come over and subscribe get it quick get up yeah and that's why thank god i had that studio already built in my basement yeah i was able to all we needed was the logistics of pumping it out onto the internet in a bigger number than i was doing at three in the morning you were doing some of them outside too yeah yeah we'd set up the camera out by the pool like my first guest was dice which was hilarious yeah yeah dice uh came by we sat by the pool uh and then later on he went downstairs uh in my basement that karaoke stage and he was singing elvis karaoke songs it was hilarious and that's one of those moments where you're like dice is in my basement singing elvis what the did that happen you know it was awesome yeah uh but yeah so so that model uh works for us and it's been working but i'm i'm kind of seeing uh you got to keep on your toes

147:05in especially a technology-based business we were just talking about satellite radio like you don't you just can't tell what's going to happen you really got to kind of look for future trends and whatnot and uh maybe more of a hybrid thing because it's a balancing act of bringing new people in and like you said keeping the people that are there already but bringing new people in with some free content so maybe a tiered subscription thing where there is a free level with sponsors uh but then a tiered uh premium level with the material that we've already had maybe uh uh past shows or something or extra content but so we're always trying to think of what might be a good option when i first fired this thing up we had no clue i mean this was usually you would kind of do some kind of a research testing or whatever marketing analysis of day parts and like that and i just

148:01i was like i could i could be here by 4 pm uh how long is the show gonna be six two hours four to six i could i could go out at six and then i don't have to be there until 4pm it's easy still lets me party uh monday through friday that i want a three-day weekend all the time for the rest of my life so that's what we do monday through thursday uh and then we have programming on friday in the slot that um i'm supposed to be in uh during the week so uh it just i wanted i didn't want to be driving myself like that yeah uh forever so cut back on the hours the days and it it worked so you know i'm very happy with that but again you know we're always assessing and seeing what we could do to kind of build it because it is that trade-off of audience like obviously we're not going to get as many people watching on a subscriber base than we would if it was free

148:57with spots but you know do you want to cut down on the paid subscribers and boost it up and then how far do i i go with advertisers where somebody can call them and me over now and do i truly have free speech now or as free as i can be with a subscriber base so uh it's a balancing act i see what you're saying like you don't want to totally abandon the subscriber model because then you're at the mercy of subscribe of uh advertising of advertisers and it gets like we have advertisers now we have a couple of them uh that we pop maybe two spots on a show uh and i i do they're all live reads so i i make them fun and funny and you know people like i learned that from howard years ago when howard would go to spots before he was syndicated too when he had all the time in the world uh sometimes he didn't even know he was still in a commercial break it was just funny so i try to keep it

149:50light and fun and add in things uh so it doesn't feel so intrusive uh but i don't live and die by sponsors it's not it's kind of supplements uh the subscribers stuff so uh that works and and i don't know maybe i i'm paranoid because of my past that uh that sponsors might get pissed at what i'm saying but when i look at the shows especially the shows i've been doing the past year or so they're not as harsh as they were i was really angry uh like five years ago when i started this whole thing i can't believe it's almost five years already that i've been doing this at compound media and uh i was just pissed and the show was a platform of like venting and and revenge and like i just i wanted to yell and and be pissed about things that bang the desk about politics and society and and uh it it came off as very angry uh and then as as uh time went on i i realized like

150:56people were telling me god dude just be funny like just joke about and you don't have to be serious like i thought for some reason i had to do almost like a political show um because of the fact that you had gone through so much yeah yeah i was resentful i was pissed and and you know it's uh it's one of those things that really carried over onto the show but in the past couple of years i guess it's been um especially with bringing artie lang on board for the eight months he was with me uh it's very difficult to get into any kind of uh commentary on society with hardy lang sitting there how was that it was odd it was great i mean you know the the the preface everyone gives is love arty uh he's hilariously funny uh so quick and and just a goofy knock around regular guy uh but the demons man the demons it was it was kind of rough to deal with uh like i said i'm a relaxed guy if arty

151:53didn't show up one day i do the show myself didn't he do the show with opie for a while no he was a guest on opie show and and i guess obi approached him to be a co-host or something he said no okay um but yeah he was never part of the show i thought he was gonna be part of the show yeah there was kind of a rumor going around for a while uh so when he came on i was like it's not gonna kill me if he doesn't show up you know for a day every so often because i'll just do the show myself uh but it it turned out to be a little more than that and there were some days that were really good and other days where it was a little frayed around the edges and uh you know redundant he's got a different kind of demons he's got like bjozebub he's got like the main demon he really does man and it's so sad to see because i mean there's no question about the talent there he's hilarious

152:48and a great guy great guy you always hear that yeah i always hear that yeah i i remember when we hired him it was uh i was at the comedy cellar and david tell came up he goes so you're working with artie like yeah he goes well welcome to the wonderful world of the 3am phone calls and not being able to find him like oh what do we get ourselves into and and that's kind of what we got ourselves into but again i mean i had a great time uh his he's one of the funniest especially on a mic like that who would think that when jackie martin left the stern show they'd be able to replace him with somebody that was just funny as and and have legendary shows with with uh artion and um you know he he definitely earned a place in in broadcast history but we just you know after eight months it got a little too crazy uh to unpredictable and you need some predictability

153:46what was what was bad about it well it was the the attendance issue was a little odd um like a principal yeah yeah the attendance he wasn't he was tardy uh and and there were some days he was just most days it was awesome but there were some days where you know their heads down it was kind of kind of a little iffy and you know regardless i know he knows that too i mean he's he's he lives in that body so you know he knows it so it was a little odd um and then we picked up dave landau who's a young comic out of uh detroit he uh filled in a couple of times when uh we had him as a guest on the show and then he filled in a couple of times during uh already few sabbaticals that uh he was away for a week or so uh and me and dave just hit it off he's got a great sense of humor he's a little twisted he's got a great backstory the guy was just a piece of for a long time

154:44his story is about like drunk driving he crashed every car he had he was arrested 15 times before he was 18 like just a disaster and you look at him now he's got a great wife a beautiful kid he's a working comic and he's awesome he he knows how to co-host my show he he gets it he uh we don't step on each other he he knows exactly what to throw in and when so uh really happy with the with dave landau he's great i only did one show with him the last time i was in town yeah he's great yeah he's a he's a good guy smart dude yeah smart and really decent like it's so weird to see people that you didn't know when they were such fuck-ups and up because like you know you almost want to go all right come on just drink one night i want to see what a disaster you are you know uh yeah because you know you just don't know how up people can get uh but you never know he's he's a he's a decent guy

155:46yeah he's like i like what you're doing man i love it i love that you're cool you're doing something different you and you you you basically you got put into a corner yeah you said all right i'm gonna figure my way out of this it was a lifeboat at first but you've really expanded it now and it's been yeah it's become a really interesting thing yeah and and i never expected it i i gave it a lot of thought in between being fired and when we finally fired it up uh compound media i was like what do i do do i do i go buy a ranch somewhere in the middle of the sticks and get guns and write a manifesto or something or you know i didn't know what to do right uh no one was knocking on my door to give me a job so uh when the idea came to do this it was pretty much all right i want to do this and regardless of how many subs i get the overhead is going to be barely anything it's me in my basement

156:44doing a broadcast so uh i wasn't really worried about the number of subscribers or anything like that and when we launched and it was really successful uh during the course of that year we started getting other shows legion of skanks uh the guys out there um big j okason and uh are they dave smith and uh no no they have their own thing louis j gomez yeah they got their own thing um on on their own network uh but for a while they were doing their show from my house which was so weird it was like because you need their legion of skanks with them they have their part of their show is that live audience so i'd have people coming into my backyard that i didn't know from a hole in the wall that had driven out to roslyn long island to sit on folding chairs in front of the guys and i'm walking around my basement like who are these like this is a little weird it's a

157:34little intrusive but it's cool but it and then it really started getting up because during the summer months uh they'd all jump in the pool so now they're swimming in my pool the legion of skanks was in my pool and it was the weirdest it was cool we'd all just you know have a few beers talk you get to know people yeah so it wasn't that bad no one ever did anything bad they respected the house and everything which was very cool um and then gavin was doing the show we got gavin on board from my house and a lot of times it was at night so i'd be upstairs on my couch watching tv or something he'd finish up come upstairs and sit on the couch and be like hey man what's up and i'm just like i just don't want to talk i talked all day i'm just i want to watch tv so it became a little weird and and after a year uh keith was like let's get a place in the city it's easier for guests

158:24yeah so we got a place at uh 35th and 7th right near penn station which works great you know i take the training now i don't have to drive into the city uh although that's another nightmare the transit long island railroad but uh it just works out better that way it gets me out of the house it's a separation of personal life and and uh yeah the the job so um it works out i like that yeah i started my podcast in my house too i think everybody does my little kids you'd hear them in the background screaming at each other mommy she took my thing you know because they were really little at the time because they were doing it for nine years holy yeah oh my god time yeah so i did it in my house and then we started doing some of them the ice house and then i got a got a place got a uh the last one yeah yeah used one two remember that and then as the show got bigger i just

159:13said let's get a big place this is insane joe i like i don't know how much you've shown the people on your show do you venture out and show them anything because it's it's insane it's a airplane hanger this is giant and uh everything in every corner is cool like it's all just cool there's for uh you got weights and mats and and then that that hunting thing that that archery game game techno hunt it's amazing it's you know but it is a game the scores like you compete against each other yeah you're firing real arrows with your compound bow into what is that kevlar a kevlar screen the tips are flat like the top of a water bottle so it slaps it it doesn't penetrate yeah i went to a gun range a couple of times on long island that also used a video on a screen that was made with uh giant rolls of paper one horizontal one vertical and uh a sensor would read

160:17the light that would come through when a bullet hit and uh that would record where you shot and accurately show that and then after too many holes got in all you have to do is wind the paper a little bit on each one and it it misaligns the holes so now you got a whole new sheet of paper to shoot at oh wow uh yeah and and it was very cool to be able to shoot at video targets of you know the bad guy yeah well it's just like really good for real life situations for hunting that thing's amazing yeah you you're not just looking at a bullseye like a typical target face you're looking at the crease behind the shoulder where you're trying to hit the heart by the way you nailed that one like the second one you did it was a deer just a video of a deer standing there and it's moving it's not a still picture and uh you drew that back and hit it exactly in the crease behind the leg

161:07yeah that was a hard shot really cool this game is very addictive though you'll be out there pulling that bow back you'll your shoulder out yeah yeah you're pulling back 70 pounds all day long it's it gets super addictive like think about how addictive it is to play video games oh yeah you think about competing against another bow hunter and you're talking to each other playing this game deer walking out in the field that's really great practice for actual bow hunting yeah you could tell it's very accurate too wherever that uh wherever that bolt hit yeah it's right right on the money very uh very cool though this place is uh awesome you got an amazing place i can't even you you were you know you took the ball and ran with it man you really did this is amazing just an amazing accomplishment like you're known you're the guy like like people are like oh you're going on rogan's podcast oh

161:59he's the guy you like ended up being the guy because of you guys that's crazy and awesome man because of being a guest on o a and then watching crazy live on the compound that's absolutely where it all started crazy i just wanted when i was doing that i i it was trial and error i would go to b h photo in manhattan and just buy and take it home hook it up and go ah that don't quite work throw something in the closet get something else and slowly built up what i needed to have it work my goal was really to to have lower thirds and video over my shoulder and and look into the camera with the teleprompter so it looked like the news yeah but it was done by a drunk guy who was you know would go off and just sing karaoke horrible language like that to me was always funny like it was a parody of a real tv show i wanted to look good not just a grainy camera with a xbox headset

162:56we were literally just talking about this at the comedy store the other night we were watching the news it was on the television and we're saying how much better would the news be if you get a couple of us and get up and start smoking weed and then just right but the real news like actual real stories like oh look what the that guy just did and who wouldn't watch that of the news is just with comics like i've i've actually after doing that at the comedy store and watching that talking to a couple friends i've actually thought about doing that like having a nightmare yeah or a morning news show or just a show where one hour of the day is just like you get the ap feed yeah yeah the news feed and you've got video to go with it and you do a a stoned out or drunk new show yeah comics we we have uh a guy michael malus that does a kind of a daily wrap-up show at 11 p.m

163:50and uh it's hilarious because he'll put like the other day he was talking about tucker carlson and the graphic comes up and it says tucker calls it but it's a picture of um who the was it uh sean hannity it was a picture of sean hannity and he does like that all the time and people like dude that's not chuck this what no it's it i thought it was but he does that on purpose like he with the graphics and the the ticker at the bottom and everything and it's really weird it's really funny he's a he's a smart guy too he's uh a clever uh little uh yeah so but that's like that is great we did we did an election show on during the presidential election a couple of years ago and gavin was on that one and we had all the the big american flag waving in the background on the green screen and everything and and we were calling it like a sporting event depaolo was there

164:41uh and it really turned into like a football game you're just going oh my god we just got florida oh it was so and it was we were all drinking and laughing and it was election coverage like the news would do but we were just hammered and laughing our balls off so what do you think happens to gavin now uh well no one bounces back from that kind of it's so difficult it's a different kind of that he's in right now cult leader you know like he's in this they've they've got david koresh yeah as mouse has he's got the eye of sauron on him yeah and then once that's on you it's very hard to shake that thing off of you yeah if anyone can do it it's gavin he's been really reborn a couple of times like he was supposed to be done after that trans thing oh not really i don't know they gave him a lot of for that and he got he lost his company yeah but that's like professional stuff that's not like

165:39showbiz stuff now he's in this weird showbiz exile sort of place you know yeah well he's on uh what's crtv yeah that's still real he does a show there yeah watches i don't know you know i i i see clips of him but um yeah it's what is that what is crtv is that it's another kind of an internet thing more yeah but more straight news kind of based uh why would they have him on it uh he was on there he got hired by them maybe a year or so ago but if they're trying to do something straight he's not like well he's kind of the goofy i think the goofy yeah aspect of it then they'll have you know the regular straight lace guy why don't you have him on compound anymore uh he got a better offer to go over there you know i'm not going to hold anybody back hey why are you don't you uh it is weird though because you can be stricken from the record as they showed with alex jones yeah they just holy

166:38did they just get rid of him he is a non-person yeah they took every aspect of his uh a feed off of every bit of social media and it's obviously a coordinated effort yeah yeah this is not just one company that also competes with another company that also they all just universally decided on their own independently yeah no they they coordinated that i can't stand the uh yeah i am an absolutist with free speech i and and i know the line it's a private company they can do what they want freedom of speech is about the government and this it's like yeah but are you okay with that yeah are you okay with a faceless corporation uh deciding what you can watch and see and hear and who can speak based on nothing but this arbitrary ideology that comes out of a building like i don't like that i want anyone to have the ability to speak about anything they want no matter how repugnant it is

167:37like like meet it with a lively debate well here's the here's a perfect example forget alex jones let's talk about what we talked about earlier laura loomer versus louis farrakhan yeah where's your consistency you got to explain to me how that works how does that how is it okay for the guy on twitter to be calling jewish people termites i mean that that is that's something you exterminate yeah yeah this is nazi germany type yeah exactly how is that okay that's okay with you but then so i mean how about look it's it's works that way on the left as well like how about that guy that just got kicked off of cnn right because he was talking about the jewish people against palestine and that he's for palestinian liberation and they were like you you're done like this this decision that or the the thought process that's involved in decisions that they make is not based on rational thinking and

168:28objective reasoning it's so arbitrary uh you just don't know it's based on which way the culture is swinging you know and the culture is is swinging in a way that avoids any any possible accusations of racism if you think in in any way shape or form you're going to be thought of as racist you avoid that because there's some people that say horrific about white people oh yeah yeah they don't get banned literally calling for their death and and yeah they don't know that girl that got hired by new york times it was a massive uproar because she had so many anti-white things on her twitter oh yeah yeah yeah the uh the asian girl yeah yeah yeah i mean just all that ridiculous left-wing woke nonsense you know you're allowed to be completely racist against white people massive generalizations against white men in particular yeah yeah it is it absolutely is discrimination and it's absolutely

169:22what you're doing is you're being prejudiced but you're being prejudiced with a stamp well you've got a stamp of approval yeah yeah you're allowed to be and i love the the just rules that are made up that are ridiculous it's like uh you're a racist i can't be a racist right i'm this or that or i can't be sexist i can't be this like who's making these rules up exactly and how come i am not privy to any of them of course i can't i can't call on any of these rules the beautiful thing about that is that hypocrisy will eventually bite them in their ass and people who are rational who listen to the argument against it so you you absolutely can be sexist against men yeah absolutely can course and you are a lot of feminists are 100 sexist against men there's this feminist that i follow her twitter picture the image the big one the banner one says trust no man okay well good luck good luck

170:15cutting out half the population don't trust them how about trust all women you're going to do that well great congratulations because you got about 15 to 20 and that's you're going to have to trust all them yeah yeah good luck you got 80 80 85 90 maybe good gals yeah and you've got a you're you're polluted well you've got a polluted population just like men there's a population of men there's a polluted population of women if you if you thought that you were going to get pure drinking water without dropping in those uh purification tablets you're gonna get jars there's some in there yeah you're gonna get you're gonna get sick yeah that i i there's no um there's no 100 percent on any of that so we saw the whole believe all women thing that happened during the kavanaugh uh hearings and whatnot i didn't do that bit the other night did i uh uh no i'll tell you to off here oh okay

171:07i'll tell you something off here that's it's it's it's crazy like the idea that anyone would say believe all women is as mental as saying believe no women it's the same stupid thing because there's going to be there's going to be pieces of um i i was saying on the show the other day like uh no one really wants equality no one equality isn't good the the fight for equality is where it's at right and you never want to attain it because then you're not special anymore uh if you're fighting for equality that you're always a victim there's always a an oppressor and you're fighting once you're equal you can be called a you could be called stupid right uh everything else you're just another face in the crowd with another stupid voice that probably shouldn't be heard uh so no one ever really wants equality no matter how much they're clamoring if it does get achieved you're

172:01going to find some reason why it's not right why it's not valid and you can still say that you're you're being victimized by something there's a currency in it yeah yeah there is there's there's definitely equity in being a victim and not being equal yet yeah wait but you're fighting you can say things that other people can't say right we see you can be completely prejudiced you can do a lot of things you could never do if you were another race yeah and now you see this uh uh that avenatti guy that lawyer just hilarious he hey the whole believe all women and then like a movie script it spins around and bites him right in the ass where he's like i didn't do that she's lying he's like wait a minute the fact that it happened so fast is like if that would have been hilarious if it happened two years from now yes but the fact that it happened right after it is just beyond hilarious

172:54well like the asia asia argento chick right yeah the other one the one who was uh accusing harvey weinstein of raping her right and then turned out that she had you mean it's basically what do they call it rape when you have sex with a 17 year old boy which yeah i don't think it is yeah i don't think you think it is either but the law is the law and the fact that it came out and that it came out that bourdain had paid this kid off during the whole time they're all just believe all women and like don't believe that one yeah yeah yeah that one you probably shouldn't believe i mean this is this is a problem you got a real problem and the fact that all that went down you know i mean it's just when these things play out like this it almost makes you wonder like god i don't i don't really believe we're living in a simulation but if we were re living in something that's designed to almost it

173:51instills this lack of appreciation for reality yeah that it seems it all seems so bizarre and ludicrous and it keeps people keep like when when anthony weiner got in trouble for pulling his dick out i swear to god there was part of me that was going this doesn't even make sense like this is so so obvious it's so like right there yeah yeah it's so on the button yeah it's not even subtle enough a lot of that stuff it it seems like um everything works out too much like it's scripted yeah like during during trump's campaign i kept saying he's got to win i go this doesn't play if he doesn't win this isn't rocky one this has to be rocky two he's gotta win it's not about the battle and the bravery and that he's gotta win this for this to work to really highlight the theater of the right right he's gotta win i mean that guy being president with his fake hair sprayed down and orange skin with the

174:57white around the eyes it all seems so fake everything he's he says the way he looks like yeah everything is insane i still every time i see him walking down the stairs at air force one i'm just like holy donald trump is the president like what what kind of wacky world a really wacky world really wacky world yeah the other day deniably wacky world when he was given that speech about elvis and it's just like people told me i look like elvis that's what people have told me if i wasn't blonde i look like elvis and and it's like no one told you that even a little bit like elvis no one ever told you that maybe your belly uh right when elvis was sitting on the ball for the last time but that's about it how about when that reporter confronted him look at the two of them together come on well when i look at that picture people tell me they look like the king maybe oh my god maybe a little bit

175:59how about the upper right hand corner one have yeah have you ever seen anyone trap anyone as a dude okay whoa that fat elf is my favorite fat elves cause i love you too much baby what are they of course a thousand memes now yeah yeah have you ever seen someone so committed to a comb over for so many years like so committed but it's not just a coma i don't know what edition it's a wacky contraption walking up the stairs of air force one where the wind's blowing behind you see the whole back of his head is bald yeah like where's the hair coming from it was like a vader's head without the helmet it kind of looked like that weird like what's going on you never know where it's starting and where it ends how long it is it's like look at that oh my god that's just a picture the the video is more disturbing because you see the flops yeah yeah just chaos well how about you know

176:57he didn't want to go out there for the fourth of july memorial because he didn't want to get his hair wet his hair went in the rain that was uh yeah that's what they were saying um what i don't know that is such a weird thing like he it was a september 11th that's what it was the president the 9 11 i was a veteran's member or the world oh was it veteran's day isn't it like that the president is is a guy that's so like insecure yeah that's ever for decades he has to do a a dairy queen ice cream move on his head every day also he's fat like the thing is like if you're really concerned so much about your looks all right why are you fat why are you fat get it i don't think he thinks he's fat i think he's like one of those guys that you talked about having uh uh body dysmorphia body dysmorphia they just he looks in the mirror and sees elvis like young leather-clad elvis

177:53yeah he's got this weird thing you know where he doesn't believe in exercise because he feels like the body is like a battery and if you put in the energy and it's gonna wear it out it wears it out well the is up at all hours during the campaign for the midterms he was doing three rallies a day flying all over the country and he never seemed to be like he was falling asleep or losing energy so i don't know what he's doing well do you know about all that he says i get exercise i mean i walk i this i that trump 71 said during the oval office i run over to a building next door i get more exercise than people think i run over to a building i'm amazing my exercise is incredible he's on allegedly according to one reporter he's on diet pills and he's been on diet pills forever and then there's a prescription that they i mean he he actually even cited the exact dwayne reed pharmacy where he was

178:49supposed to take this for like a little while he wound up taking it for years he's taking some form of amphetamines good for him in this day and age you would be stunned if you found out how many journalists how many people who are writers how many people that are professionals how many people that work who are on adderall um community that i'm in i mean i live in an area where there's a lot of people that have money and they work real hard and because of the fact that they need energy i know a shitload of people that are taking adderall yeah folks that are in hollywood folks that are in finance all sorts of different yeah i know quite a few also yeah they it's everywhere man i mean it's it is such a you know the difference between methamphetamine and amphetamines the difference between meth and what you're getting when you get adderall is so goddamn close yeah yeah so close but the

179:42meth is crazy yeah you take that and you're you're a meth head the only difference is how quick it hits you it's literally the only difference yeah and then the dosage that you get is obviously regulated if you get adderall right right i don't know i uh i'm not i'm not a pill guy i never have been what do you got here jamie what are you pulling up he says here about being on a treadmill oh awesome i was on a treadmill for the first time actually in quite a while and it was a very steep angle and i was there for a very long time he said they were surprised and they said well you can stop now that's amazing and i said i can go much longer than this if you want me to hey trump i got a right now buddy i got a challenge how about you join the sober october fitness challenge oh man hop on we'll put that strap on you we'll see what's up let's see see who's amazed

180:32everything is over the top with trump trump dieted successfully before i have been more of a believer in diet cause i'm strong you know i've always been more of a believer in diet because i'm strong you know i hit the ball far i mean i'm strong physically he said that is so hilarious would you imagine wrestling him how weak he must feel like just a bag of jell-o just grab a hold of his body and smush it it's all gushy the bones are barely held together with thread like what are you talking about you're strong far i'm strong i i mean when he said that he would beat up joe biden that was my though that was like yeah peak ludicrousness yeah yeah i was like what you're gonna beat up to you joe biden would go down fast and hard that's what he said dude the fact that they're talking like that again absurd it's so funny that bull and biden has said the same thing like he

181:31kick his ass he's a bully when did the did truman and dewey trade barbs like that back in the day what is he saying nixon and kennedy i didn't make a mistake but they asked me would i like to debate this gentleman and i said no i said if we were in high school i'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him violence meanwhile i don't believe that i think trump would kick his ass i really do i think trump is meaner and i think biden would make a mistake yeah trump better be able to he would swing and he would slip and he would fall and he'd his knee up and trump would kick him in the face like a soccer ball he would get lucky he would walk away and biden would be holding his teeth and blood coming out of his mouth and he'd be like i told you in the best the best ever and he'd get away with it yeah it's like he gets away with a lot of things and there'd be a lot of people who want

182:20to kick trump's ass and get back on him but it would never manifest it would never come to play no no just like what's going on now it's like where people thought stormy daniel is going to take him down then it turns out stormy daniels beat some chick up on a porn set and and now she's after avenatti also because he apparently isn't giving her an accounting of where all the money that she raised online was going to and he apparently filed she said he filed that lawsuit against trump against her wishes she didn't want it done and now she she's not getting an accounting of the money it's hilarious yeah the defamation said she lost yeah now she has to pay his lead pay his legal fees so this avenatti guy is hilarious and he wants to run for president just another dummy in the mix another dummy listen he's another guy chaining himself to a building it's the same thing

183:10it's the same everybody just wants attention i had to actually talk to a guy who's in hollywood he works in hollywood he's like a high level guy he's got a respectable job and he's like we need a guy like that like that avenatti guy on our side who doesn't talk any he doesn't take any a guy who could call trump out on his i'm like what are you talking about man like what are you talking about this guy this lawyer this guy's the guy you think you need running the country are you serious he's a disaster but they wanted to believe that he was the guy right it fit the narrative like yeah we need a guy like that we need a good guy like trump you know that's what keith oberman is this is what all these people are a good guy who's gonna kill him you fat you liar you piece of well trump trump has nothing to lose is is what it is right like trump could say anything and he does

184:00because what are they going to do what are they going to do he's one of the things about diet pills they were they're putting about amphetamines and they were reading down in this article all of the side effects of oh and it's like explosions of grandeur elevated sense of your place in the world like all these he is the president well and on top elevated sense of the president wow that is i'm the president of the world i think he thinks he is but uh he is he's he's but i mean if he's the president of the united states you're basically pretty much president of the world yeah yeah i mean at least if there's a uh number one through ten you're number one yeah yeah all right who's definitely who's number two that is that's number two but it's number two is donald trump hate him all day one of my favorite hillary quotes is really recently she was she said i would like to be president

184:52that's what she said oh yeah i would like to be president well you should never be president then because that's not what the job is that job's not some you put on your resume right i'd like to yeah yeah that's what it comes off as i would like to be the queen i would like that i would like if you kiss my ass i would like to suck my toes what you would like it trump would like it that's why trump comes off as like a just a bad stand-up when he does those rallies and everything yeah like you could tell when he's squinting at the the prompter and he's like we as americans must blah blah blah and then you see his eyes open he's like so let me tell you about and he's on prompter and that's when i go oh here it comes here comes a winner and and when he when he talks about ice and he's like the men and women of ice just amazing people a job that none of us want to do we don't want to do it and

185:44then he starts the crowd work this guy over here look at him he didn't want to do it see his wife knows he's wet like he's doing crowd work like what the it's the president it's so bizarre do you remember that one 90-minute speech that he gave just rambling nonsense and people go this is the day the presidency unraveled that was two years ago that was forever ago for a year ago and he's still unraveling it's it's uh he's not even unraveling it's just who he is do we go back to the you know this guy the whole and what we need to do because guaranteed in 2020 that's going to be the pitch against trump we need to return to some semblance of society it's going to be a young democratic socialist type character that says a lot of things that the young people want to hear right and then is like completely anti-racist anti-homophobic trans rights all that stuff right that's

186:38what i think and someone who can hold it together and somebody doesn't have a good bjozebub in the closet yeah that's getting tougher and tougher to find these days man there is some just graveyards falling out of people's closets and it's the people that want to be in power that all have these skeletons yeah yeah that's what's the weird things these people that want to be in power yeah i think it's hilarious like you look at the um a politician like you just described at a rally or a speech and behind them is just it's so well choreographed like every nationality is represented and you know you just see it looks like something out of a star trek episode that hats from different lands and all kinds of things and it's like that to me is just as fake and and uh potentially like offensive as just the trump background white trash it's like laura dern running star trek

187:38or stuff that's star wars that's what it's like it's just bring it back yes it's like oh okay i see what you're doing not that laura dern's a bad actor she's a great actress but in that role this situation when she's like telling the pilot to shut up oh listen stop that guy's a straight-up killer he's out there flying a pilot he's piloting a spaceship gunning down evil robots that want to blow up the planet yeah he's really going to be intimidated by laura dern i remember when we first started running this empire shut up shut the up jesus force-fed just force-fed that yeah there's a lot of that though this like these these really obvious just theatrical plays that diversity and inclusiveness yeah aggressiveness and you could tell that they like they've pushed everybody there's no authenticity to their their message they have to push every correct button and say all the right notes

188:34and make all the right sounds it's yes yeah it's like this thing they're they're complying it's a compliance thing right as much as it is an expression of who they are as individuals yeah yeah you have to be compliant with this news this new way people are thinking and behaving but but it's so ham-handed like like it's really over the top it's obvious it's like a guy named wiener pulling his dick out it's not too obvious it's too clunky too right on the head you know what i i heard that some of the movies that uh are coming out um i think they're doing a girl version of bad boys oh which is like why the it's just ghostbusters like ghostbusters which was such a success uh and then i saw this there isn't that how milo got kicked off of twitter yeah yeah by goofing on uh what's her name there uh leslie leslie yeah yeah so i i read this uh the other day uh there's a broadway show

189:30of of king kong is now a broadway musical and they have this amazing kind of marionette gorilla on the stage giant thing and the girl that plays a ann darrow uh and and now a new girl has been uh cast she's black now i'm like this the whole gist of king kong is the fact that it's a white broad yeah like the whole island is full of black chicks whoa this this marionette king kong picks her up what's up with his face i don't know they had to make him you know almost you know how the characters look at the lion king the musical yeah yeah so is that that's all a marionette yeah it's like a it's on cables and and and there's people working it oh wow strange if you if there's a video clip of it and you see it kind of move it's uh it is strange we got to see a video but like i said the whole thing is based on it's the white chick yeah like like it it it's part of the story you can i can

190:36understand you can cast a black actress in a white actress part is that but when it's so integral to the story that this guy yeah isn't that sick that's amazing yeah yeah it looks pretty badass but where's his fur what's this guy get out of there buddy wow this is amazing yeah isn't that sick in a broadway stage they got all this uh that's going on it really is that really is amazing they got the teeth lit up and everything yeah the lighting is pretty important and it's actually pretty badass so this is the old one the old one used to be a blonde chick and then yeah yeah no not anymore now we're gonna get a black trans man yeah i mean the whole gimmick is that kong has been on this island with black chicks yeah and he sees her and just loses his mind yeah i have a whole bit of i heard it the other night it's brilliant it's so goddamn funny it is true it's like that yeah that

191:31movie is like the most racist movie of all time horrifically racist it's so crazy when the remake came out uh i think it was the peter jackson remake came out um patrice went off on it yeah and did a whole thing about what the movie represents and what the chick and the gorilla represents and everything and it was brilliant only as patrice could have done it uh and he you know he nailed it do you know the the the movie frozen the little kids movie yeah i never saw it the girl uh who can turning things into ice there's a disney version of live disney version that they've decided to do uh and in the live disney version they're the girl is now played by a black girl uh-huh but it's it's a blonde girl who lives in like norway yeah it doesn't make sense they decided to have her be played by a black girl and people went crazy they sent all these emails in like this is outrageous like what are

192:30you doing it's like yeah but i feel like these companies they it's there's too many people involved right it's not like compound media it's just anthony coombi of making decisions right right with something like disney you have this board and you probably in in california you have to have a certain amount of women on the board right you imagine what that must be you have to have like equal representation of everyone and everyone's super concerned about diversity like crazy pitch to show and when they walked in there the first question they said he pitched the show they go okay where's the diversity where's the diversity like he was pitching a sitcom yeah yeah where's the diversity he's like i'm just pitching you something funny i pitch you a funny program yeah yeah okay we need a uh we need an asian man we need a black woman we need a this and that and again like we were talking about

193:22it's so obvious that it becomes distracting like i don't want i don't want to have to watch something that that diversity is just forced in there right uh because you you notice it and now you're distracted and you can't really enjoy the thing like that king kong thing like like how do you how do they do the part where the the the natives on skull island uh kong is just like ah get out of here but this one is like oh this yeah like there has to be something different yeah and it's definitely the hair color and the skin it's just what it was it's regardless of how uh horrible it is or or whatever that's just the way it is grow up right now move on i yeah the time has passed you by old man old white dude yeah oh old white dude doesn't like when a black woman gets a role that's designed for all black women or all white women so there are so many instances where that's fine and no one

194:16would notice and whatever i don't even i don't have a problem with hamilton or whatever they want to cast founding fathers as black and hispanic dudes whatevs go at it but like when it's an integral part of the story it's most of the stories it's most of the reason he loses his mind right he falls in love with the white chick the whole time he's he's on camera in the movie he's there losing his mind because of the white chick yeah just don't make a movie right then just don't don't make the movie or don't make the play the idea they're going to make the play but we're going to have a black woman of color we're going to have yeah yeah woman of color that's that's one of my favorite criticisms is how dare two white people have this discussion without a person of color well that's true yeah yeah that's the we'll probably catch for this but it's from who yeah from who that can go themselves

195:11who who would your preposterous idea the idea that hold on anthony before we go any further let's bring in a person of color yeah yeah a person of color how should we we are we were two privileged people we shouldn't be discussing this that is true like you can't even communicate about something no no you can't and all we hear about is how we need an open and honest discussion about race right and then the second you try to have one shut up don't talk about here's one that everybody keeps ignoring do you want to know what's racist harvard tries really hard to keep asian people out yeah they're making it way more difficult because asian people are far better at school than white people just the way it is and they have to balance it they it would be full of asians but so what if everybody was uh got accepted for qualifications yeah that would be asian harvard but it

196:02is amazing the people that are rallying against racial discrimination don't look at that because that is absolute racial discrimination but on the other end of the spectrum right right you're taking these people that are they are a minority they're a small percentage of the population and they vastly outperform most other groups yeah yeah and because of that harvard has made it more difficult for them to get in and now there's a giant class action lawsuit against one of the most liberal and progressive institutes of higher learning ever and they're racist they're undeniably racist that is racist yeah it's right against the superior people it's absolutely based on nothing but someone's race ethnic background and uh they're they're doing it yeah so they're doing it for now for now but but you don't hear about this from the social justice warriors no no race baiters they want to go on

196:51about white privilege and you know yeah it it really is fun look i i just like bringing up that i notice and and if i notice that they're squeezing diversity into something that doesn't need it i i i think it looks it's like i said distracting and it's out of place and then other things like the other day i noticed and and you probably shouldn't even say it that the uh mars probe that just landed on mars and they showed the control room at jet propulsion laboratories and they're all applauding could possibly be the least diverse room i've ever seen in my life a bunch of white nerds that's all it was there were a couple of like uh big women like like uh kind of you know lesbians lesbians there were a couple of them in there but for the most part it was every nerdy guy grown up and landing a speck a billion miles away on mars it's it's insane when a push comes to shove you need the

197:55people that can get the job done right and and if it's that room of people it's that room of people uh you can't artificially diversify something just for the optic and get the job done they had everyone in that room had a reason to be there and i assume it's based on qualifications but if you notice that or mention it i'm sure i'll be called a racist for that but yeah for sure don't ever notice things that's what the rule is don't notice trends don't notice things i feel like that's going away though i really do i think so i just i don't see it lasting i just i i feel like it's a a bright wave of nonsense that's hitting us and it's gonna balance back out and rational thinking he's gonna here's the thing like this is one of the things that drives me crazy it's like you know address your white privilege recognize your white privilege no you know why i'm not racist okay so

198:50if i'm not racist you should be concentrating on racism you shouldn't be concentrating on people who don't experience racism because they're fortunately white because i didn't do anything right just by being but what they're doing is they're putting you in a position where you're always guilty and once they put you in that box they always can shut you up because they're the logic is not very good so the discourse is not it's not well thought out it's not really nuanced so because of that they want to be able to just push a button and shut you off right that button is the white privilege button but that's you're looking at a you're looking at a reality yeah do white people have it easier than people who get racially discriminated against yes sure but the problem is not the white people that have it easy the problem is the people that racially discriminate

199:32yeah yeah so you're looking at the wrong thing so you're finding someone you want to make them a bad person just by being the you know the the thing that you've decided is the oppressor yeah it's a racist thing everything is the same level whether you have an opinion about something just voicing an opinion about something that involves race or sexuality or whatever it is and literally uh calling for violence against people it's all in the same category when it's ridiculous you could have your your personal opinion on anything that that is sensitive these days like i said race or sexuality or what have you uh it doesn't mean anything unless you use some kind of negativity or oppression or something against uh the person because of your opinion uh until you do that you just have a opinion right and and it's not all that dangerous uh patrice used to say that too he goes

200:30i never met a racist in my life because i never met one never sat down and had someone call him the n-word or anything like that he goes never met one he's been in the wrong places maybe we could take them to some places but but it's like let's say you have somebody that has a low opinion of of black people and and you you go into a bar you sit down and there's a black dude sitting there and you're watching the yankee game or something and go uh he goes hey look at that the yankees are winning is is the guy going to turn around and go you and drop in embalms or is he going to go yeah i guess so like like there's there's levels of he might have an idea about it but until you start exercising that i i don't honestly you don't see a problem with it there's people that discriminate and they have discriminate discriminatory ideas about all sorts of things

201:21it's just when you allow some but don't allow others when you allow discrimination against white people but you don't allow it against black people right yeah you create resentment when you allow discrimination against men but don't allow it against women because you feel like women have been victimized so it's our time it's our turn well no it doesn't work that way it doesn't work that way especially when you're talking to people that aren't rapists right yeah if you call everybody a rapist and the people who aren't rapists you go oh okay so you think everybody's a rapist well you you're crazy and then they start changing what rape is right yeah yeah well that's what they that's kind of what they've done i mean um obviously the uh like the louis ck situation i know that is so people are so divided on that one and my opinion is if if he didn't do anything

202:08um make anyone do anything against their will he's just a guy that has a strange proclivity you know he likes jerking off in front of people apparently the cat's out of the bag there yeah but like were those girls that upset 20 years ago were they that upset 20 years ago that that now it's an issue or were they giggling were they like i need to know how they were then because i don't give a what you think now like at the time was it okay was it cool with you did you sit there and rip elbow to the ribs with your girlfriend and go look at this guy jerking off in front of us uh to me i don't care what what time is done because it the the the way something looks the morality or ethics or respect that is expected in 2018 ain't what it was 20 years ago right so you can't be held liable for something you did 20 years ago when it was normal or a little strange or whatever the it was well i think

203:08it's always been weird to beat off in front of people that's an odd thing to do the thing i think about it is though he asked if he could right and this is something that i've brought up to people i go you know and people say oh you know he would lock these women in the room and beat him off tomorrow stop okay if you're gonna if you're gonna like push this you're you're saying that because that fits your narrative and he's this abusive person who's abusing his power now here's another problem with that when this was all going down he wasn't very famous no that's just it too so what power was he abusing he was a successful comedian he was admired by his peers because he was really funny yeah he wasn't louis ck like the superstar filling out madison square garden louis ck yeah he wasn't the same guy you know he he didn't even have all the hbo specials and all the netflix specials yeah

203:53the same guy so he was just another comic that liked to beat off in front of people and he would ask first so can you say that he you know forced these women and wouldn't let them leave none of them say that in fact he asked and when they said no he didn't do it he didn't say oh well good you don't want me to beat off that'll make it feel even better when i beat off in front of you shut the up and sit down you know he wasn't doing that no no he was asking which is which is so strange it's a weird thing it's not it's it's not in the same realm as as harvey weinstein it's not even no it's not even close it's not even close but people don't want you to rationalize they don't want you to grade things they just want to talk about abuse all abuse gets shoveled into this one little pie chart area like this is male abusers yeah and then they'll put matt lauer right next to bill cosby

204:48right next to louis ck like well this seems kind of crazy and then when you say it's crazy like matt damon said let's i think we should make a distinction they're like oh yeah off the movie you can't be an ocean you become a rape apologist if you uh you say things like that and uh it's weird because it's odd because even saying the word rape these days like a little red flag goes off in your head like how did i say that did i say careful did i say it evil and it was it did it sound evil or just salivating right don't be salivating don't smile when you say it it's very somber uh it is strange it's this uh i use the term all the time because it's the only one that really fits orwellian yes everything is so strange now it if you read 1984 years ago you couldn't fathom things getting like that right but man in some cases it's even worse than than expected you think there aren't un un-person

205:48you don't think there's an unpre alex jones on person yeah wipe them clean from the that's it yeah uh the this uh newspeak words are twisted like it means the opposite of what it was supposed to mean and and uh it it's something that you never thought would happen i i always thought like you read a book like that or some other kind of um dystopian story you get like a uh like an orb it's supposed to be some kind of orb with the government looking at you and yeah don't do that sir 26 5302 sit down and and then it's like oh it was us oh we're the rats we pick up our phone and we rat each other out and we're big brother like we turned out to be the bad guys yeah the collective it's not the government they like like oh boy you're gonna the government's gonna put a tracking device on you that he comes to my house and once but i'll shoot him i don't care oh you forgot your phone don't don't

206:50leave your house without your tracking device yeah like it's the same thing and they do use those in crime cases of course everything is presented as a convenience when i first got easy pass it was like this is awesome i don't have to wait on a line at a toll booth and throw change in or something i'm whizzing right through and then i see a story it's like oh easy pass using a divorce case to see what the husband was going here there and it's like oh that's handy that's handy and then you see on the insurance commercials it's like use this safe driver thing it goes in your car and it acts like a plane's black box and and it shows how safe you're driving they'll reduce your rates it's like really it's not going to be used if i'm speeding and getting into accident for them to go yeah we're not paying your thing because obviously we read that you were speeding and uh and

207:36and didn't stop or like it's all presented as a convenience alexa you literally your tvs they all rat you out it's alexa isn't this magic thing that everything happens internally that sends everything you say out records it somewhere and then sends whatever answer it's supposed to give back back to it and that's what it is but everything is is saved and do you really know when it's listening and when you're taught you say certain thing i had alexa for a little while i don't know why all i ever did was like alexa weather it would tell me the weather i could have checked on my phone and then it started doing things like i'd just be watching tv and it would be like i don't have an answer for that like yeah i don't need that i don't know what it's doing i don't know what it's listening in dialogue from the television from maybe the tv maybe it's just listening to every thing i say

208:30and sending a transcript somewhere because then you can go to the app on your phone and every question you ever asked it is listed there in text form swear to you every conversation you have with that goddamn thing is somewhere well hey if you're not doing it what are you worried there you go well hey hey hey as long as it keeps us safe right right keeps us safe how about yeah if you're not doing anything bad well in 10 years will this be bad in five years just like that 20 years ago wasn't bad now it's a crime right uh you'll be exiled from society i don't know if what i'm saying now can be brought up in 10 years and you know when i play video games i say some pretty nasty but but uh yeah i don't want alexa or or my smart tv to listen to every thing i say and record transcripts of what i'm talking about and we bring it in our house no one's forcing you to put this rat in your house

209:28you you paid for it you spend money and you put it there and plugged it in yourself it's amazing how we went from not trusting anything i remember when online shopping first started and you're like i'm not putting my credit card in there now you're laughing what are you kidding you just drove through 20 20 face scanners license plate scanners to get here your card is being picked up by a sensor uh so they can target advertise you in the mall so there is no privacy anymore and we love it we love that there's no privacy i don't want to go to the mall for christmas i go to amazon and now there's a list of every thing i buy at amazon that's being sent to everyone all over the place you think you got privacy you you can't even move to uh montana anymore in a cabin and be off the grid it just doesn't happen so i love jesse the bot you ever see jesse when he

210:24does i'm off the grid i'm i'm going to mexico and i'm off the grid and it's like he's got a show called off the grid it's like well yeah you're on the grid i'm a fighter uh governor uh yeah he's off the grid but he's constantly on the grid there's no off the grid anymore there's no no the whole world's going to be on the grid yeah the whole world that's what they're talking about expand these satellite imagery uh things for uh oh my goodness for internet they're doing that as well or where they're gonna have satellite internet available everywhere all over the world all over the world getting everybody up to speed and i was talking about this with somebody else isn't it amazing that gps has worked for as long as it has yeah flawlessly it's amazing how good never a problem inch by inch like literally tells you turn right and you're right there crazy yeah

211:16and i think we have the dumbed down version like the military has that the premium version like sure but yeah by this by the inch and we have you know by a couple of feet but it's it to me it's amazing that like it it's worked this long it never goes out like oh it's really i had it on cd-rom in my car in 1998. styling yeah i had the early version of of that and it was a big stupid thing that had to sit on top of the roof of my car to catch to catch the satellite like a disc or something it was like some some weird antenna that had to go up there yeah they they used to have to have to to pick up the uh the gps how come the satellites aren't any different but the receivers are are like can be a lot smaller your phones in your picks up while it's in your pocket they're tracking you while it's in your pocket in your car as you're driving of course when it's off when it's i i don't trust

212:10any of these electrons i use them i'm not going to throw my phone away yeah and and if i do forget it there's no more horrifying feeling than driving away from your house and going oh yeah i don't have my tracking device and you will turn around and get it because you can't function without it it's everything to people again if if there was that emp or whatever the it is that just zaps the the grid you would see pandemonium yeah in no time well you would see pandemonium if just the power grid went down for any reason if something yeah like a terrorist attack took out the power grid yeah we need power way more than we think we do oh absolutely you just think nothing of we in new york we had uh the hurricane a few years ago like five six years ago i guess it was and um the one that took out jersey and long island and stuff and uh we went nine days without power

213:04in in the house in in on long island and you could see it fraying around the edges man society ju the first couple of days you'd be on online at the gas station to fill up jerry cans to take back to your generators at the house and it's like oh okay excuse me oh no oh you were first go ahead go ahead by that 7th 8th day it got you no i was standing here go yourself get to the back of the line now could you imagine if that was you trying to get your kid's medication or something or food like it just goes a little longer and now food's getting a little scarce you are going to have a problem and i'm stunned it hasn't happened uh to any extent really we saw we saw it close with katrina i think uh and violence started that was that was a little out of hand but you zap that grid and give people they have nothing i wound up getting a giant like a cummings generator this thing like is

214:06for backup power at hospitals so when the power goes out my neighborhood literally my pool is running floodlights in the backyard every tv's on it comes on automatically you just sit there does it fuel with it's a liquid propane i have two 1000 gallon tanks buried in my front yard what so it would it would it would last for a long time and time uh i depending on how much you use because the more uh the more draw on it the the harder the engine's got to work so it depends if i'm running my whole house i don't it would last uh a few weeks and it's safe to that propane to be in those cans oh yeah underground no they're in giant tanks they're running natural gas into my uh neighborhood so i might have it converted over to natural gas but i like the fact that if the gas breaks too i can still at least jack a an lp truck somewhere and fill up my own tank you know

215:04that's crazy push came to shove but it is just every light in the house can be on my neighborhood's dark i'm just looking out looking ha ha has that happened uh yeah yeah a few times i'm waiting for a big one though like i really want a big bad blackout just like they're gonna know that you're the guy with the power that say the guy with the refrigerator that's where the guns come in like it really it it there is something a little creepy about the the prospect that we are really delicately balanced uh as a society it could really fly apart um we trust too much that the power is just gonna be on yeah that the water's gonna run yeah that the food's gonna be at the supermarket or whatever the it is like you got a great advantage being able to hunt you know how many people don't know do you know what american refugees would look like the fat mess crossing some border to canada to be saved

215:59from some cataclysm that happened down here what a bunch of just weak soft know nothing every convenience they've used for years just not trained in in the feeding yourself outside in the wild you have no idea you ever skin an animal you ever kill something to eat uh do you know how to get water from just the humidity in the air or you know there are things that we just don't know because we depend on technology and we trust that it's always going to be there because it has been i mean you know we get very complacent but that's why if it ever failed oh you better uh hunker down somewhere it's crazy indeed and on that note dude we just did like four hours uh unreal it seems like it flew right by it did flew around that is nuts joe i i got to thank you man thank you i love being on your show for real you're the reason why this all happened it's crazy now people know it's nuts i i

216:57i love it thank you i love it always good thank you my friend very much cool oh ladies and gentlemen yeah he's got a book out uh permanently suspended available uh anywhere go to compoundmedia.com for all the details all right bye oh yeah awesome hulk