Moment 37 - There Is ALWAYS A Way: Holly Tucker

00:04You just said there that you know, the company was completely out of money but I but I, I could tell that you also didn't believe it would fail, which is a bit of a contradiction to some degree, but well. because it was just money yeah. and you could, you could figure that out. I don't know how yeah, but you know, you know, money is just this, you know, okay, so if we got the money and the hard bit really is doing the doing isn't it? It's building it. So I always just knew somehow this will work out. I mean of course you have your terrible dark days, but I knew it was going to work out, how could it not? We were on to something and I knew that.

00:42That level of optimism in upon reflection of your career of the last you know, couple of decades, how important has that optimism been that just like unexplainable, unjustifiable, I don't know why but it'll just, it will all work out optimism because you've also because you, because you've employed a lot of people seen the opposite. That sense of like catastropphhe you know that catastrophizing oh no we're fucked you know that kind of oh. yeah, oh I've I've kissed a lot of those frogs um yeah, wouldn't you say that that's a common denominator you find in entrepreneurs. 100%。 I mean. even in team members someone, so I've I it's so I so I can't explain it enough I1 example I always come back to was um I was flying to Brazil, and Obama was speaking at the same time as me.

01:28Um, on the same stage as me, just like him speaking just after me and I thought, well Obama's here, I'm a speaker, he's a speaker, can't I meet him and someone that was working for me at the time went, oh no I asked somebody and they said no, sick as a fuck if they said no. Ask someone else and just keep asking and then they' were like, no, no, no see we've been asking a lot they just said no so I was, I'll do it then and I, I sent some emails and within 30 uh, within 30 emails, someone comes and grabs me, goes, come and meet Obama. And. I just think there's always a way, there's always a way and your life and my life is testament to this upset, this like there is a way or there's a way that's you know what I mean or it's there's a way where I have to work harder. you know what I mean? And I don't, I don't allow for this other outcome which is that oh no we can't.

02:15I've never allowed for the other outcome ever and it's actually my entire battery is powered by that and I am told I radiate it. so. when you're. Around me. You get hooked on to that, and that's can be a really good thing because it drives people in those dark days when actually the entire world is telling you no and I'm saying yes. And so it's an amazing thing and I think that optimism and actually now as I said getting older, it's actually I would say there's optimism and now I also have gratitude and that's powering my battery. You know. I worked out my 40th birthday.

02:57I have 29,000 days on this planet because I'm as as another golden thread that I'm sure you recognize as efficiency, I'm frigging addicted to it so I needed to know so you know this life, I just need to schedule this a bit so you know so I've got 29,000 days oh shit it's not 29,000 days it's14,000 days because I'm40 right? Okay and so. That has also led to a countdown till I die. so. that also has fuellled this optimism and and fuck it mentality because if today I am going to change the world which I can it's even fueled, even in a in a better way actually I didn't have that at not on the high street because that was just you know firefighting and optimum was that that, that that fuel but now I think I have gratitude. Powering that even more and that's been in a beautiful. Beautiful stage of my life.

03:55that is amazing and you're right so you were you're in survival mode and now you're now you've got choice. now I've got choice and a bit of you know the battle scars are there and I have an appreciation that you know I can give everything and all, but I need to make sure that my time on the planet is also for me too because I do believe I'm here to serve and I've again, I can only say that now in hindsight but if I am here to serve I. Need to also serve myself.

04:30That sense of by the way I completely um resonate with that this um this focus on the amount of time we have left. I wrote about it in my book at very long length and you I think somewhere behind me there's a little sand timer somewhere on there, there's usually a sound timer so I it seems to would walk around but because I wrote about it in my book at such length, people started buying sound timers and and uploading them online and the whole point of the sound timer is it's one of the things that really allows me to, it reminds me of time. It's like one of the ways we can see time happening, just by turning it you see your life moving away and it's that important reminder to like get on with it and focus on what matters. You mentioned um, you now feel like you're here to serve. Do you think. that comes from understanding your own power.

05:18Yeah, I think so, I think so. I I would have found that really difficult to tell you 20 years ago, but now, um, I. I have been through it and done it and I also know that my optimism helps people and I can see the effects and I can see, you know, what we brought up in not in the high street was full of it, you know, I used to have people come in to the office, um, from other businesses that we would hire, they literally could feel it in the air, they were uncomfortable with it, it was optimistic, it was creative, it was emotional and they were like this place is so emotional and I'm like, yeah.

06:01And they're like ah, we need to stop that and I'm like we're never stopping that and I think that that's what I've realized is that that is what I can muster up. You know I I listen to one of my favoritevo songs is cloud busting by Kate bush, and when I listen to that song I feel like I'm whipping up a storm and that is my power but what I try and whip up is. Very positive and good for the soul, good for small businesses, good for and what are small businesses the're founders with dreams, you know I love that, and so um that is why I've re potentially that is now my job description, um for the rest of my life is to build something that I can pour that in and be efficient and so amplify it so not build an empire, but be really smart and amplify that feeling out to other people and help them. 啊？