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John Rallo, Matt Serra, Din Thomas: JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck

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Guests: John Rallo, Matt Serra, Din Thomas

JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
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00:00The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day Gentlemen, we still don't have a name for this We're not the cucks, right? What was wrong with the cucks? What happened with protect your neck? Protect your neck I think protect your neck is best That's the best one Yeah, let's go with protect your neck I'm down with that Protect your neck Yeah, I'm down for that Protect your neck Wu-Tang theme song Yeah, Wu-Tang Perfect

00:30Yeah, the theme song's already done for us Exactly You got it There's two Wu-Tang songs I always listen to when I'm going to an arena, when I'm doing a show It's protect your neck and gravel pit Those two, they just get you in the groove Yeah, get you going Especially gravel pit Oh, there it is There's our theme song, boys I like it That's all we got We're all getting kicked off of YouTube Even that might get us in trouble You alright there, Rollo? It's not Are you fingering that skull? Yeah, not hearing anything right now Are you real?

01:00Alright, we're going to pause real quick, see if Jamie can fix this We'll pause Can you hear it now, Rollo? Yes, sir There we go You know what we never tried? What? The smelling salts We got them right here But we got to show Din the sheathing Sheathing injuries Oh, what is the fucking sheathing? What does that mean? It's when metal rings We were all talking about it I don't want to see that shit The three of us have rings on, but they're rubber Alright, let me see Look at this Oh! Yeah! Yeah, bro Oh! Oh, my chicken wings Yeah That's what happens Don't wear a ring on the mat

01:31Ever Alright, alright Turn it off Don't wear a ring to the gym Yeah Like, you could drop a weight on it Or rip your finger off Like, for real You wear these Yeah, yeah, yeah These are great These are great These are great Just don't wear nothing That way you can cheat, too Well, I'm just saying It's about you I think the goofiest looking one is the tattooed ring Yeah, yeah, yeah That one's goofy It's almost as bad as the bicep with the fucking chain With the, you know, the old school barbed wire I'm actually wearing my Marvel ring

02:04It says Marvel on There you go Good man It says Marvel It does actually say Marvel It does actually say Marvel It's a good man It's a good man It's a good man It's a good man It's a good man Your wife like Shane You're fucking This fucking dork I'm wearing a dork It's nice, though When I get a handle with the rubber rings I can just fling it at her Marvel ring I think she got me the ring Yeah, I'm just flinging it right at her You can use it like a slingshot That's great Yeah, I heard about a dude in

02:31God, I forget who's Jim One of the Some big name dude And he took a photo of one of his students And said, don't ever come onto my mat With a ring on Ever Oh my god This is what happens And he posted it I don't remember who posted it But fuck, man It's like You can't It's just too dangerous You can basically have a metal wedge On your finger If you're doing anything heavy If you're in the outdoors If you're climbing something It can just dig right into your meat

03:00And rip your fucking finger When I was When I was When I was fighting When I was champ I had the I just got married I was telling you earlier And when I had the ring on This was before they had the rubber rings You know And guys get excited to see you So sometimes you give them the hand They squeeze your fingers And it felt Smash the ring I'm so excited Smash Sarah You're trying to be nice And I was like Give me my hand I wonder if that's why you wear a wedding ring On your left hand Because you shake hands with your right

03:31I wonder if that's I mean that's good That's a good hypothesis there That totally makes sense It does Especially I hate those douchebags That always try to give you that fucking They have a nice squeeze They grab the tips I don't like that They try to break your hand That gets on my fucking nerves When you want to squeeze your fingers It's a bitch move Shake your hand dude It's a bitch move I like a firm handshake I like a man with a firm handshake Look in the eyes I like a firm handshake But I don't like that finger squeezing bullshit Because that's cheating Yeah yeah yeah Agreed Agreed You know I don't have a good grip

04:00But you're squeezing anyway That's a douchebag move That is a douchebag move A nice person would relax their hand You slide your position And you give each other a nice firm handshake That's right For sure Even that Like when guys try to over Like they got a real strong grip And they try to fucking give you that squeeze I just feel Especially my right hand Like I got a fucking bump here From showing he caught his head I bumped his head I had a hoof After I got done with that second fight Remember that shit My hand It was a balloon And it's still Like I used to have to double wrap it When I hit with Longo after a while

04:30So when guys squeeze that shit I feel like Alright dude Alright you got me beat with the grip But I'll fucking strangle the fuck out of you What are you trying to share What are you trying to Oh yeah good Do you do that gripping thing Fuck yourself It's like men feel so uncomfortable When they're around a guy like you They don't know how to behave Can I grip some coffee? Yeah For you I'll do like a sneak Do you want the espresso Or do you want a cup? There's a cup Oh that's a lot better Yeah I make a mess Cause like you know When they get around a guy like you They don't know what to do Cause guys like Always like to pretend That they could beat another guy's ass

05:01Right Even they're just posturing I'll fuck that guy up They meet a guy like you All of a sudden They're like Hey how are you? Nice to meet you That's why I put on some weight That's why I'm trying to get over 200 Just so I can posture on them back You know what I'm saying? I understand I understand Flex a little bit Like if you're meeting Francis Ngano How fucking terrifying is that? You're a regular dude You're a regular dude And you shake that guy's hand You're like Oh what the fuck man I remember the first time I interviewed him I was standing next to him I'm like What the fuck man That guy is so powerful

05:32He's fighting a guy bigger than him Yeah The guy is good Yeah he's good He is good He's like 6'8 He KO'd Ryan Bader And real quick Right It wasn't like 20 seconds He like jabbed him or something Dude he hit him with a clean right hand Yeah Let's watch that Because this guy's good dude Like this is a dangerous fight I've never seen the size of him After a bad KO You have to think You know he fights Anthony Joshua That was a bad KO

06:01From one of the best knockout artists in boxing Right How tall is this guy? This guy's big And he's athletic too He's really athletic too Because he's a lot taller Super fast man And he does a lot of wild shit He throws a lot of kicks and knees Dude he's good How much taller is he than A few inches I think Francis is like Francis is like 6'4 6'5 Is he? Something like that This guy's He's taller Francis is bigger though For sure But this guy's fucking dangerous man And he's real long

06:30Like watch this combination When he lands it on Bader See Bader can't close the distance here He's having a This guy's from the outside Look at that right hand He waited for him to throw that jab Bro Watch that again That shit was perfect Watch that again Look at the timing on this guy man Watch this Bader's trying to close He's trying to close Check out this Watch this Fade away a little to his left Boom Oh I mean that's Right away Right over the jab That guy can do that to him That guy's dangerous man

07:00He's fucking dangerous Dude his footwork was real nice But Bader's also 40 And you know 100% 100% But Bader at heavyweight's been doing pretty good Yeah Especially in them Bellator testing What kind of test is that What testing That's a multiple choice test What the fuck How many times did Bobby Lashley compete No disrespect to Bobby Lashley But still But still We know what's up He was always on an Indian reservation somewhere

07:31He was very No real permission Bro what a body though Bobby Lashley's the only guy I've ever fought in MMA That looked like he could enter A bodybuilding competition The day of the fight Yep Mark Kirk In his prime too But Bobby Lashley He had everything Randleman Randleman Oh Randleman for sure Yeah but we know But we Bobby Lashley Yo I was like a WWE guy He is He was He was And he could fight man Yo he could fight

08:00Was he like a D2 national champ Or something like that As a wrestler Yeah he was Yeah he was a real legit wrestler He's a legit fighter Legit fighter But there ain't no way You're testing positive Or negative Yeah because he wrestled At like 189 in college Also he's 48 Whoa You know But look No disrespect Guy looks fucking great It's amazing Some guys are natural Like Paulo Costa He's just got the genes son Is he natural? I don't know I'm guessing Maybe

08:30What do you think? I mean he plays it up With the secret juice I love that shit Why would you be talking that much shit If you were really No but No I think He always looks the same He never tests positive And the guy has crazy genetics Like look how handsome he is Look at that broad jaw That is true That is true The guy's got freak genetics Just in looks And also in his build He's been tested a billion times A billion times Yeah Motherfuckers have chemists out there Hey You used to work for American Top Team Tell us the secrets Tell us the secrets That they got over In that fucking Tell them

09:00It's not a secret It's not a secret I want to know What the fuck happens over there I am not going to Juliana Pena this one No I am not I am not No I'm not doing that I'm not going there You're no longer getting paid by that Oh my god Oh my god By the way Great work with Sean Brady Oh yeah Oh my god Sean Brady's a fucking star Bro he looked great He looked great Yeah man He's a hard working kid He's young I know he was on this show before He's young Hard working And like He's on his way up Bro he's got a double sized back

09:30Yeah When you're behind him His back's like He's got a turtle shell Yeah it's like It's double sized And that's genetic Like his father has that That's crazy His fight the other night With Gilbert Burns Was fucking smart man It was impressive Because he Because I Even though he has Really really Good wrestling He knew not to shoot his wad Trying to get him down Because Gilbert's Fucking What I love about Gilbert And it happened in the Damian Maya fight Is If he's getting out wrestled The second he hits the floor Right into jiu jitsu Sweeps Half guards

10:00He's playing jiu jitsu They go to play back He's back to his feet It's really nice It's amazing Gilbert's one of the very best Ever on the ground In MMA It's like we've just seen him In so many stand up wars Because it's so fucking hard To get people to the ground Right right right I love his jiu jitsu Ultimately that's where It becomes a problem Right It's just so hard To get a world class Guy to the ground Well I mean so When Hamzat fought Gilbert Hamzat was on top for second Right And as soon as Gilbert First side of playing jiu jitsu Hamzat was like Get me the fuck out of here He stood up quick Yeah But that's what's so smart

10:30About Brady though Because he was patient Up against the cage And then he waited To the later rounds He's the younger guy He's banking on his cardio Then he started committing To those doubles And now he's got a better chance Of getting more time On top But also it's like If you look at him In comparison To like He doesn't have the same accolades As far as jiu jitsu competitions As Gilbert does But he's like world class He's straight up For sure For sure He's definitely Craig Jones Yeah Craig Jones There was a special Rules thing There were no leg locks

11:00That was it There were no leg locks Which is You know With Craig Jones That's a big part of his game Yeah If you're gonna compete Against that guy You gotta let him use The whole game It's the whole game And you don't say You can't use your best stuff And they were Yeah I mean it was funny It was pretty stale But Brady can hang With anybody on the ground Like he's so strong He can hang with anybody And I firmly believe That Craig Nelson Craig Jones rather If Craig Jones got him In any kind of a position Like a heel hook He would never rip his shit apart Right Yeah no doubt There's no chance But I understand

11:30The fighters The current fighters I like look what happened To Cub Swanson I'm all for these guys Taking grappling matches But I'm also for them Taking it with certain rules Exactly Because that'll fuck Cub Swanson I was trying to tell that To Khalil Roundtree Because Khalil Roundtree Before he got the title fight Was in here And he was telling me He was gonna take a grappling match I go think about Cub Swanson Yeah Blows his ACL out He's gone for 9-10 months Oh And he's in the 30s He's already in his 30s That's a death sentence almost Shit I mean he came back

12:00You can come back But it's so unnecessary Yeah I get you're a badass But you're also a professional athlete Yeah You can't be motorbike riding Well Cerrone did it Like Cerrone must be the biggest headache For the UFC He's out there Fucking riding poles I don't remember him pulling out Jumping jet skis I don't remember him Pulling out of too many fights though No I don't believe he ever did I don't remember a single fight I mean there might have been one His whole career But he had to have a broken fucking leg But he was still reckless as fuck

12:30Like he was still out there Doing dumb shit He's an adrenaline junkie man Yeah he's a freak He's still out there doing it He's still out there doing it He's a wild man Same reason why people Stick around too long in the game Yeah but that's also why He's so much fun to watch man Because he genuinely Didn't give a fuck You know In the early days of his career man He was very interesting Because he's a wild kickboxer That had a great triangle Yeah yeah yeah He finished off a lot of his Early fights with jiu-jitsu Right He was good off his back Nasty off his back So like guys would want to take him down And then he'd throw up that triangle

13:00And was like Oh fuck I didn't expect that His first fight with Benson Henderson Was one of the sickest fights ever He had Benson in a hundred different submissions And Benson got out all of them It was pretty sick Several triangles Benson doesn't get enough love Benson doesn't get enough love Yeah it was a great fight When they were in the WEC Damn dude Do you think about all the fucking wars That a lot of people have forgot about Oh yeah I know Because there's so many fights now I know Right Like it's not like when I was When we were fighting back in the day It was It was It was far and few between

13:30It was an event Because there was only a few a year Exactly Right People forgot about Jose Aldo's beginnings Man Bro I didn't Bro When he was in the WEC Was there anybody really better No No Complete fire Yeah he's for sure The best WEC fighter You can't Look You can't keep that pace Whatever that pace is When a guy is at the top of the food chain You can't keep that pace up for very long He kept it for 10 years I always say you have to look at a guy By where he was when he was at his best Like if we're gonna do this

14:00Like who's the best guy ever thing That's why I always throw BJ Penn in there Me too Me too Because BJ Penn And you fought him Yeah BJ Penn in his fucking prime Was a demon And he ran through everybody He's a demon That's why I forgot you both fought him Jesus Christ But when he was in his prime It was like BJ and then everybody else Yes For sure You just can't keep that up forever For sure So if you look at Aldo Like the Aldo that fought Uriah Remember what he did to Uriah's leg Jesus And how tough is Uriah How many dudes would have tapped He took it How many dudes would have just rolled over

14:30And that would have been the end of it I think Aldo respected him And actually like backed off towards the end I think he did too You know what I mean Guy might have lost his leg I mean he almost got compartment syndrome Yeah he did Right he had to go in a hyperbaric chamber every day To try to heal that fucking thing Yeah man full disclosure Like at the end of my career When I was fighting in 45 I was like I'll fight anybody But Aldo I ain't fighting that guy I'm not trying to get my leg kicked Yeah I ain't fighting that guy That was the piece that's missing from him later Was the frequency of his leg kicks Stopped

15:01You think it was just cause of injuries Or Well he started boxing a lot Like he started Yeah he started boxing Is he back now by the way He is back He is back Yeah I think your fucking shins just go man Yeah I mean think about That's what was going on with Amanda Right She was having nerve damage In her shins Yeah Yeah Just think about Especially now with the calf kick How many guys that fought Pejeta Are gonna be fucked up For the rest of their life You know How many guys are gonna have Like some weird thing with their foot You're gonna get like Drop foot or something From nerve damage Yeah

15:30My biggest fear was that shin break Like what happened to Chris Even before it happened in the UFC I seen it in kickboxing And I'm like Yeah Like you know It's horrible Like you gotta really Like you could trust your shins But like Could you How do you know How the fuck do you know I mean I don't know It was always something in the back of my head When I was throwing kicks And it's so spontaneous too Even when I'm watching fights now Like when it happens I always like Have this response of Be ready to look away Yeah Because if a leg snaps I don't want to see that

16:00Nobody wants to see that Yeah You know It's interesting the way Pejeta does everything Because he doesn't I don't think he runs the risk as much of that Because first of all He kind of kicks around the outside of your leg always Yeah He never goes shin to shin Right And even when he kicks the thigh He's like kicking up Yeah It's like an upward Even on the back Yeah Yeah For sure He always catches that back angle Or an up kick Until he wants to smoke you Like Yuri Yeah Like Yuri he came across And just smoked him But it wasn't just about touching

16:30He knew he already had him He almost knocked him out At the end of the first Exactly He knew he had him Yeah But it's just his The power that he can generate From no hip at all He's just slapping you Yeah He don't have a big He doesn't really have a tail It just flicks It's crazy Flicks out there And hits you It's the perfect combination Of a guy who has this insane God-given power Like he's got insane One touch of death power Now we're left hook And then the intelligence To not wind up It's kind of crazy

17:00Yeah He's just tapping you with it Tapping you with it But the thuds are so bad And they're so It's such a clean shot Yeah Yeah It's a clean shot I think This is going to be A wild take I don't think it's going to be A popular take I think That Pereira's going to Mix in a takedown Really? I think What? I think Against Khalil? I don't know Maybe I'm retarded No, no, no, no I think I think

17:30That's already been established I could be You say that to me sometimes You've done that for a long time You say that to me every week But I said It's already been established Hear me out Hear me out Yes, he's I mean, listen You don't get more confident On the feet than him But He hangs out with our good friend The great Glover Teixeira Yeah And you see him sparring You see him mixing that shit in Is he doing it for shits and giggles? Is he doing it to work his cardio? Maybe Or He could be dealing with Khalil Roundtree And say, you know what?

18:00Let me show them I mean, he did He did shoot on Izzy Why not give him a wrinkle Just to Give him something to think about Well, he's got to learn it, right? And he is learning it And why not just Do that too? If he could just mix that in How many more strikes would he land too? Because then If there's a real threat Of him taking you down Oh yeah, for sure, yeah How many more And by the way How fucking strong Is that guy on the ground probably? I know I'm telling you His hands are probably so big He's just like He's got baseball mitts That dude's made out of wood Yeah When I put my hand on him

18:30To talk to him He's made out of wood Especially at 85 Yeah What does the comma mean When he says comma? Oh Shama Shama What does that mean? Everything It means like fight It means like fuck yeah Shama It means like shama It's cool when he says it When someone says like They want to fight He's like shama And you're like Shama You don't want to hear that From that team You'd rather hear him Talk some shit Than hear him Shama Yeah He's got the scariest Walkout of all time That little limp That he does Yeah It's good And you're in that octagon

19:00Waiting for him And you see that stomp Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Think about But think about his come up man Like he was able to come up This year Without talking shit Yeah at all True Yeah so like All these fighters think They gotta talk shit To come up He did it by just Stepping up to the plate And fighting And knocking motherfuckers out He doesn't even smile He leans into that Easter Island thing too He'll wear the chain With the little bear With the big head Very seriously

19:31He thought him and Jamal Were gonna be cool with each other And then Jamal started clowning him Right And he got angry That was a mistake He got really angry It was a mistake You don't want that guy angry But Jamal That fight Like there was that weird moment Where he kicked Jamal in the nuts You know Or Jamal kicked him in the nuts rather Yeah And he waved When he waved her Din off And he did A little step in there Yeah yeah He got a little closer Right He got in the kitchen Yeah But Jamal I talked to Jamal about that Like Jamal called all of us

20:00On the broadcast He was like yo And he was like He stepped on And got the angle And I couldn't move Because Herb Din was there And the fence was there He's definitely right But we didn't see it Right I didn't see that All I was thinking is So there's so much happens Right A guy gets kicked in the nuts I'm like oh shit Are they gonna Is he hurt First question is always Is this gonna fuck the fight up Like how long is this gonna be Okay he's gotta take a break Is he gonna be okay Because I think like Every time you get kicked in the nuts One point Every time you get eye poked One point Because even if it's an accident

20:31If you get slammed in your nuts And then you have to go back to fighting Two minutes later You've been affected Yeah no doubt Two minutes ago you couldn't even fight Yeah no doubt And now all of a sudden You're supposed to fight full clip Against a guy who's trying to kill you Who just cracked you in the nuts Who's that Is that you Din Is that you Matt Not me I'm a professional Who is it I'm on airplane mode Hold on let me see I think it's an iPhone Is that you Din Oh it's a side phone It is me Oh it is Son of a bitch You son of a bitch

21:00Hold on man Wait a minute I gotta tell you Hold your head You know what I've been listening to you motherfuckers You're telling me to get an iPhone And I don't know how to work it You know what I'm saying I'll help you I'll help you There's a little button on the top It should shut it off Sorry let me shut this off All you can do Do not disturb You know how to do that No I don't know how to do that Okay look Put it on airplane mode Open your phone up And then scroll down Like scroll down from the top And then you can get to airplane mode No I would rather just turn it off Or you can get to do not disturb Alright just turn it off How about I put it on the floor And stop on it

21:30Let me see Yeah here we go I turned it off Alright So anyway we're talking about Alex and Jamal But so I We didn't notice it We didn't notice it Because okay He gets kicked in the nuts Like oh shit They stop in the fight What's going on So I didn't notice That little hop in here That he did He already got closer Yeah you see now He got the foot on the outside Yeah I mean it's brilliant on his part But on the flip side Herb wasn't in Jamal's way He could definitely have moved Right but Jamal did relax Look he relaxed He strained his legs

22:00He gave him the thumbs up Are we cool And it looked like he was Trying to touch gloves So they touched gloves But he's already way closer Than he's ever been before Yeah yeah So most of the fight Up until this point Was fought with Jamal About a foot past Where they are right now He was in the outside And he was touching him From the outside And that was his game plan I talked to him On the phone about it He was explaining to me His game plan Everything was going great Who Jamal? Yeah Yeah yeah He had a point He had a fucking real point Did he call you too? Yeah Yeah I called him

22:30He called him But he's right Because we didn't notice it But this is one of those moments Where you're like Are they stopping the fight? No Okay they're not stopping the fight Like I didn't realize That he made that right That little hop hop He does Yeah That little hop hop Is legit dude It's such a good move Watch it now Let's see Watch So Herb moves to him He's going to stop the fight He puts his hand up Watch this He touches him Nope But look how close he is now See how close he is now? Yeah He's a lot closer

23:00Back it up Back it up So back it up Before the nut shot Now look at the distance now See the distance? Big difference Big difference Jamal does fire off first though Doesn't he? Watch He did After he gets kicked Yeah probably Let's see Who throws the first punch? Jamal throws it first though I think Does he? He might be right He's getting a corner Look at Jamal Ready Jamal Throw They throw it the same time He did throw it But also It's obvious that Alex is coming in But he also put his hand On the outside of Jamal's hand That cleared the angle For him to throw the left hook

23:30Over top of it And dude his left hook It's like a shovel hook Look at that thing Half an uppercut Half a hook And it's just perfect Perfect Alright maybe he won't shoot on Khalil Not only Man Khalil's day Remember when Khalil Knocked out Gokhan Saki Man Dude He's fucking dangerous Yeah I know Khalil knocked out my boy Anthony Smith Had him in slow motion I was like damn That off speed uppercut he threw That was slick dude He's fucking terrifying Yeah man When Khalil's on Oh Khalil Khalil Rountree's fucking terrifying

24:01He came back from Thailand Like a different fighter I think once he went over there Like and was training full time Like there was I mean there was a big change in him I thought Well Khalil's like Had moments in his career Where he hasn't been dialed in You know there was a few fights Where he admittedly Like wasn't all in And now he's all in Like now he's like super focused Like the Anthony Smith fight You're like Holy shit Yeah Like that's a dangerous contender I mean we're gonna find out But do you think Do you think the UFC Would want Khalil to be champ

24:30You know what I'm saying Because like Why not Well he just don't really have Like that championship Thing about him Where like you go Oh that's my champ right there Like he don't really have that I mean I think Yeah but nobody does Until they do Oliveira didn't have it Until he got it Right Oliveira was a guy That everybody was beating Man that's true So many guys Paul Felder fucked him up A lot of guys beat him Tom Swanson knocked him out For sure A lot of guys have beat Oliveira Because he was cutting Too much fucking weight Right And he just didn't have any energy Well I'm just saying Like every time you see Khalil Roundtree do interviews He's crying and stuff like that Like is that the type of guy

25:00Like that we really want Is he crying He's sensitive He's a sensitive guy You don't cry You know what I'm saying Sometimes the whole There is nothing wrong With someone who's sensitive Who could fuck you up No there's Listen I'm not saying There's something wrong I'm just saying Is that the guy That we want holding the belt Maybe that's what we need In 2024 To get more people In bombarded Yeah As you guys get older Do you get more emotional Do you find yourself I'm emotional I'm an emotional guy I don't see that I'm an emotional You want me

25:30I'm crying right now You guys don't get all emotional Come on People think we're toxic Let's talk We're not toxic We just don't have a filter This is just what actual men are like When there's no one around When you're bullshitting But your boys Yeah When there's no one around They can yell at you If we had the same conversation With our wives You'd be like What the fuck are you saying Are you thinking That in the fucking air It would be a lot of that Right True It's like This is what people Would be talking about

26:00If you were hanging out In your living room It's true Four buddies hanging out In your living room How would you talk This is it Yeah for sure Just do it in front of the world In that case I don't cry at all Yeah You pussy I cried the other night I was just gonna see If you do Watching Chimp Crazy What There's a show Oh my god There's an HBO show What's Max now Whatever it is It's a docuseries About people that own chimpanzees Dude That just can't end well Wait wait hold on What made you cry about that It's horrific man Oh wait wait

26:30With this It went bad When the chimps tear people apart They tear your face off They tear your eyes off They bite your fingers off They pull your dick off Dude There's so many moments in that show Where you're just like What the fuck It's just It's so sad Is there anything happy in it Or no No No no no There's nothing happy in this show There's nothing happy in this show This show is all about What happens when people have pet chimps And the chimps get to be about five years old And they don't want to listen to you anymore Because they're a 200 pound fucking super predator

27:02For real They can do whatever they want Like what they are They're our closest relatives And they're really fucking smart And when they get to be like five years old You can't even put them in a combination lock They were telling me Because they'll figure out the combination They'll watch you do it That's Oh shit And then they'll do it They'll see what you do to get out And then they'll replicate it So this is real planet out of apes type shit They're really smart man They just can't talk They're not as smart as people But they also They're vindictive and spiteful

27:30They're angry and jealous They do that a lot With the wild animals Like the fucking people who own hippos But the thing about these things is When they hit like five You just gotta keep them in cages all the time So when they're babies Everybody's hanging around with them You can bring them to the pizza place Oh my god It's the lady with the chimpanzee But then they get to be five And then they rip someone's face off For no fucking reason at all What was the Netflix series? Oh yeah Chimp Empire That's what I thought That was a crazy, crazy show

28:02Crazy show Because that one These scientists were embedded In this group of chimpanzees For 20 years So these people These chimpanzees Their whole lives They had seen scientists They had these rules You have to stay 20 yards away Don't look them in the eye No food Can't have any food Anywhere near them So as long as Gremlins? What the fuck? No man They're just chimpanzees If they decide you have something You gotta see this If they decide that you have something They want There ain't shit you can do about that Shit you can do Over territory

28:30I mean You got to see the hierarchy Within their clans Or whatever you want to call it It's a badass And the guy told me You had the guy on your show Yeah The guy who produced it That's how I heard it The show is so good dude This is much better than Chimp Crazy This is like the opposite of Chimp Crazy Yeah this is real shit Chimp Crazy is sad But this is amazing It's amazing Because they These chimps are so accustomed To these scientists That they acted Completely normal around them Like they were just a part Of nature to them

29:00Because their whole life They had had scientists Around them with cameras Right It was just a thing in the forest It was just like That's a different kind of tree Or something As long as you don't have food As long as you don't look them in the eye And don't get any closer than 20 yards Damn Those are the rules So if the chimps start moving towards you You move away You gotta move back Don't look them in the eye You look away Don't have any fucking food If you got a candy bar They'll rip your dick off For that candy bar They don't have any sense Of what's appropriate They don't You know There's no remorse

29:31They bite each other's hands off Oh my god Bro they're ruthless And that's our closest relative So you know what you do You just get a dog You don't get a fucking You don't get a fucking It's not a PJ in the bed That shit Get the fuck out of here Who needs that Chimps Right here in the car Who needs that shit That's awesome Nobody needs that shit All that shit you see In those movies though Those are all young chimps You can't even train them When they get older They're not listening to nothing There's no listening I gotta watch this

30:00You remember that Clint Eastwood movie Fucking Any Which Way But Loose Yeah Awesome I used to love those movies Any Which Way You Can The best is The second one When they were gonna have that fight Philo Bello Yeah And then it's me Oh they heard they're still fighting And then it's you know Guys there are different Oh let's get on the plane And let's go see the fight Dude they're fighting For fucking two hours These guys Like across the state And the Who's that guy's name Tank Murdoch Is that the guy's name In the first one Yeah They became friends I remember all that shit Philo Bello Was Clint's name Philo Bello Yeah Yeah And they had the right turn Right turn Clyde

30:30You know it's funny Because back then You would never think That people were actually Having bare knuckle fights For money And now it's on pay per view Oh yeah I know right So that's the original Mike Perry There was never gonna be Bare knuckle boxing I'll tell you man As a sport That's crazy So this was just some Backyard shit That people would do Like this is the This is the big killer This is the guy That's like the The big money champion He's gonna eventually Fight him And he's watching Clint And he steps in

31:00To help him And he starts Fucking some people up We didn't even know It was Yeah We didn't even know What real fighting was Back then I had no idea Somebody needs to redo Well all those things He did would work I mean it's not crazy He's not doing any Like jump split kicks I used to like these movies As a kid I loved them These movies were great This movie was great Clint Easton was the Fucking man Hell yeah He has the The best western movie Of all time What's that Unforgiven Unforgiven Oh yeah yeah yeah I saw that I did see that Man I'm a fan of Tombstone with Val Kilmer too

31:30That one scene That one scene Made that whole movie Crazy That one scene was so intense Which one Unforgiven or I'm Ya Huckleberry Yeah When he's looking He's like I'm Ya Huckleberry Anytime you get Kurt Kurt Russell Kurt Russell We talked about Bone Tomahawk That's right Oh yeah Now this is I did watch it I think when I find These movies That I never heard about It came out in like 2015 Yeah I saw it on Netflix I thought it was new And I didn't know So I started watching it Holy fuck

32:00What have you seen it It's a good one Yeah It's like a western Horror movie Cause these cannibal Indians are almost like Predators Cause they got these things Well they're completely Different Like a different species Of person They have these things In their windpipes Remember Yeah Yeah Make that crazy call And what about Matthew Fox in this This guy's the guy From Lost He was phenomenal Very good in it This movie Is now I get like Obsessed with some Movie This is my latest obsession I fucking love this movie I've never seen this It's a great movie

32:30It's a fun horror movie And the fact that it Didn't get the attention That it deserves It's just I think there's too many Movies out I never heard of these That's true There's too many shows Too many shows There's so much stuff Everybody's like Have you seen this show It's like man I can't watch everything I love Shogun I haven't finished it I watched Shogun Me neither Yeah Me neither For sure There's certain things It takes a while To get through I blew right through Shogun Bro I just blew right Through Peaky Blinders Peaky Blinders I saw that Fucking amazing Hey Tom Hardy You have to get through

33:00The first season The first season Slow as fuck Once you get out Of the first season You'll be good to go I love the first season man But it gets hot After that How could it Tom Hardy Tom Hardy And Peaky Blinders I see clips of him In that That motherfucker Can act He's like Can he act He is He's like On a totally different level Like even just Everything about it You buy That eccentric psychopath You buy it You buy everything about Like these guys He's got rules Yeah For sure Yeah But yeah He was the man

33:30In Peaky Blinders Yeah I'll tell you What I tapped out on And you know me I like superhero shit And the show The Boys I was in And there's some good stuff In that show You ever hear of The Boys I've heard I haven't watched it It gets redundant No No But no This is Want to know when I tapped out The scene where I fucking tapped out Now you know when like X-Men You ever hear of multiple man He can make like multiple Of himself Like other clones of himself Yeah Alright Now I'm Listen I'm not a prude Okay

34:00I could deal with some sex scenes And some freaky shit Anyway No But my thing is this There's a scene Now they go Now This I don't need to see A guy's face In another guy's asshole Even if it's his own body So multiple man Or this This little Like Like A version of him In his thing He's not lying They go to a sauna Right And I guess this happens sometimes In gay gyms There's a This is a superhero show There's a close up

34:30Of like a Human centipede It's a human centipede Is that an Inside the ass I know He's in this guy's asshole Right now Look he's touching his asshole He's in the guy's asshole Right now No it's like a hipster Wait a minute I know I know This is a real scene in the show They're trying to normalize this Exactly This is a bizarre agenda This is exactly You see what I'm talking about This is an asshole He's inside an asshole And he's naked Dude this guy So now this guy They open up the thing And they see Oh yeah Oh my god I hope it was worth it And so then he came

35:00Full size It's like Ant-Man He turned full size And he blew the guy apart Yeah that's like Ant-Man Inside someone's asshole Yeah this is not necessary Yeah dude that's what I'm saying But picture this Kind of crazy Picture You ever see a human centipede Let me see that again Dude Kind of crazy way to die I want to see him explode So what happens Does he just decide to get bigger I think he sneezes Oh he sneezed Oh he sneezed Fucks up his I guess his ability to control it Oh my god Yeah but the whole show is like this Where they do shit like that That is so crazy But like There's some good stuff in the show

35:31Yeah that's gross The first few seasons Was cool this past season They got woke on Dude yeah I'm trying to explain that to the cops And then And then And then And then multiple man He's got pink eye Cause he had his He had his face in an asshole So now he's coming back He's got a pink eye 100% Someone's trying to normalize Things like that Because that's probably like Every bottom's dream Is to actually climb inside A guy's asshole I just wanted to be inside of you You know Just when I just

36:00Just get all up in there But Matt I know exactly the thing You're talking about Yeah That's unnecessary I would tap out after that I tapped out on The Walking Dead When they killed Glenn With the baseball bat In fantasy Yeah yeah me too You know what's fucked up dude They actually did that In the comic book Oh I'm sure they did I didn't know that You didn't have to show it to me like that Yeah cause we like Glenn That's murder porn I loved Glenn I saw Glenn at the UFC And he looked sad He looked sad Right after that came up

36:30But did you imagine like That's your character Your character for all these years Everybody loves it And then they kill him off With a baseball bat And you're like And then you No more show Bye Bye we're done with you He's like what the fuck Well it's You can't keep doing that Oh the people Or the monsters You can't keep doing that forever It gets boring Figure it out Find out who the cunts are Kill them Let's start a community Shows jump the ship too You know Like fucking Cobra Kai I like that first season And also How Why are they still zombies They walk two miles an hour

37:01You haven't killed them yet I know right How hard is it to figure out How to kill these things And they just squeeze it Slow as fuck All you need is that lady with the sword And just like Every day Run out Kill 30 of them Eventually yeah Nobody's gonna be left It's just crazy That they still run into zombies Gee you haven't killed all the zombies In like five years That show Yeah I agree Yeah I think there was a spin off With Daryl Dixon I didn't even watch There's a bunch of spin offs There's the LA one too The LA spin off too It was pretty good

37:30It was Fear of the Walking Dead Yeah Oh yeah That might have been the best one Really Yeah it was really good Especially in the beginning It was really good Because it was like No one knows what the fuck is going on But it gave you like a real sense of like dread and fear Like these people are trapped In the middle of this outbreak And the military moves in And no one gives anybody any answers Which is really how it would go Right Yeah That's what the LA one Fear of the Walking Dead Is much more realistic Like this is how it would go Like the guy waking up in the hospital In the Walking Dead The problem with that scene

38:00Is 28 days later That's how it starts Same Exact scene 28 days later Killian Murphy Also from Peaky Blinders Right He's in the hospital And he wakes up He doesn't know what the fuck happened Because he got hit by a car Or something like that Right That was a great movie by the way Was he riding a bike Got hit by a car I think So he wakes up He has no idea What the fuck's going on And in getting out of the hospital He realizes That the world has ended And there's a zombie apocalypse Have broken out While he was in a coma

38:30It's the same exact So they just stole the whole thing Well Somebody stole it What came out first The comic book I don't know That's a very good question It's a very good question What year did the Walking Dead graphic novel come out That's a legit question It's a real legit question Thanks guys Do you know those movies You can't find them on streaming What's that? You can't find 28 days later On streaming Really? Yeah because I've never seen it That's why I don't know 28 years later I think you can find 28 weeks later But 28 days later I don't think you can find Interesting Because I just bought it I ordered it on DVD

39:01I haven't bought a DVD You even have a DVD player? I do How the fuck do you have a DVD player? Because they asked me if I wanted one And I said yeah I'll take one of them And I haven't used it ever I've been in this house for four years I've never used that fucking DVD player But I'm going to use it For this You can still get Blu-rays They're going to get broken into Especially they look really good Like Blu-ray Like high resolution Yeah Those DVDs look It's probably as good or better than streaming Hmm I just don't know anybody with a DVD player

39:32That's like VHS I don't have that I had that for a long time though Because I used to get all the Pride videos On VHS Right I used to get like K1 videos K1 Pride All the weird shit from Japan Yeah From a friend of mine He would send it all on VHS What year was the graphic novel? I saw a Reddit discussion That they both So that For the record I want to answer your question The Walking Dead Came out Within the same year That the movie came out But Someone noted that They both were taking From another movie That came out in the 60s

40:01Oh what was that movie? The Day of the Triffids Ooh The Day of the Triffids That's a zombie movie too? It's on my next watch I was trying to look it up When you were asking Is that a monster movie Or a zombie movie? It's like zombies or something like that Oh look at this The Day of the Triffid What the fuck? What is it? After being splashed With Triffid poison From a stinger During his recovery He's told of an unexpected Green meteor shower What? Yeah That's some 1976 shit For the record I guess 28 Days Later May have Or uh

40:30Sorry Walking Dead May have taken from Interesting Yeah It's Well 28 Days Later Was a lot earlier Right? What year did 28 Days Later Come out? No that's what I was saying They came out It says the comics came out Less than a year after 28 Days Later Was first in cinemas Yeah So 28 Days Later Was first This guy just got into Game of Thrones Like 20 years later Yeah I just got into the game I go dude The fucking thing's been out I know I never had Max I just got Max

41:00Just so I could watch that shit So And the season of you Season 2 Dude it's good Yeah it is good I ain't gonna lie It is good It's a real good show I liked it so much I told Din After the first season I didn't want to wait To the second season So I got the book And I ended up reading All five books And that Blows my mind Honestly I didn't even know Matt Is that good? Oh it's fucking great And I loved it so much I did it on my iPad And because of my ADD I made the font real big So it's like two paragraphs I'm like eh I'm going right through The thing So if I can

41:30Otherwise I'll start looking at A squirrel I'll move Yeah On a real I didn't even I didn't even know Matt could read And shit You know I started With comic books But I loved it so much That I just Sorry So why has 28 days later Been removed from streaming It says Indeed Disney lost the rights To the independently financed Original film With them now Only owning the rights To Searchlight Finance Sequel 28 weeks later So well who the fuck Owns it? Whoever made it I guess And they what They don't want to put it On Netflix? Why wouldn't they?

42:00It's one of the best Zombie movies of all time It is great It's not the best It's great Because when they weren't slow They'd get rabid Oh they were the scariest Could be one of those VPN things It could be another country And maybe you sneak around And find it Maybe Maybe That was a great movie And they're coming out With 28 years later Yeah For real? Yeah they are Is there anybody left? Yeah I think that guy The Peaky Volley The guy who's left What kind of life is that? What kind of life is it like If they If some fucking Wuhan China lab

42:30Comes up with some Zombie virus And releases it That sounds crazy But rabies is real Yeah That's exactly what Rabies is It's Cujo Rabies takes animals That are not That never want to bite people And turns them Into an animal That needs to bite you They run at you They're not scared of you Rats will run at you Foxes They run at you When they have rabies I never thought about that Rabies is just zombies It is zombies Because it kills people Before we figured out

43:00How to stop it Like and you have to Get some crazy shots In the stomach You have to get those shots Before you start having symptoms Like they have to find out You got bit And then give you those shots And it has to happen Really quickly Because if you don't It kills most people Jesus Rabies kills something like 99% of the people That get it What? Yeah it's an old disease And so one of the things They figured out Is that if they Slow down Everything in your body And put you into A medically induced coma It gives your body

43:30The resources To fight it off Because your body Can fight it off But it can't fight it off As quick as the virus Moves forward It's a crazy It's an old virus man It's an old It's a weird Yo that's crazy So like when you think About what that is It's a crazy old virus It spreads itself By making its host Violent It is rage It's that So saying that No one would ever do that These fucking psychopath

44:00Eggheads That they give these grants to That do this Fucking This gain of function Research shit On viruses Making them more infectious To human beings Do you think They would stop At a Coronavirus No Why wouldn't they Fuck with rabies You know who fights Like they have rabies Marab He does He does He does He does He does Spread the rabies He does You know I used to say that About Liam Harrison And you know People are making

44:30A big thing about Oh he's got to Get him down He's got to get him down He didn't get Listen He gets him down He's in trouble Sugar Sean But look what he did To Jose Aldo He didn't get him down Too much And look at him Up against the cage All that height The difference in height The reach That's at a disadvantage Once he gets a hold of him So he could beat the shit Out of him Up against the cage He doesn't get him down For a round Now there's a little less Pop in Sean's In his punches And strikes That length

45:01Is going to be a problem When he closes The distance Marab So I got to ask you Because you know Marab Better than anybody Here I'm sure And from that Like when I see him Now like he's just A different animal Like a complete Different character Has he always been Like this type of character Like making jokes And always been funny And when he first Came to us The English wasn't Great at all I mean it's It's not what it is now He's always been A sweetheart Just a sweetheart That's what I thought

45:30Of him Imagine having Matt And Ray Longo As your English teachers Oh no he's funny Oh my god He's always been funny Come on And Ray I love you You know that A reality show With you And Ray Longo Oh my god Cornering fighters And just traveling around And training fighters You know how big That show would be You know what's funny I just had him I want to thank you By the way I just did my own I'm doing it Once a week I'm doing my own Geek podcast It's called

46:00Geeking Out with Matt Sarah Thank you You're the one Who pushed me To do that Listen you are A natural Thank you You're a natural For this It actually It's out today The second episode I did I did one with my Buddy Phoenix Cannavale She's great We talked about Worst to best X-Men movies This is right up my Are you doing this On YouTube too Yes on YouTube It's the It's the Matt Sarah channel You have it on Everything Spotify It's gonna be on Spotify It is on Spotify Yeah And I did two episodes One with Phoenix About the X-Men movies And the second one

46:30Was myself and Ray Longo This is the best My studio is nine minutes From Longo School And we did our Top five gangster movies There's a movie That's on our list That I didn't know This fact until it came out Because I don't know why People didn't see this movie Did you ever see State of Grace With Sean Penn Yes A lot of people Haven't seen that Phenomenal Yeah we talked about I watched it again With my wife Before I did the show Just back in my head Because I knew It was gonna be on the list And I wondered Why so many people Didn't see this movie So fucking the great Ray Longo brought up

47:00A great point It came out The opening weekend As good Same as Goodfellas Same opening weekend That's why it was Fucking under the radar You never seen it I never seen it How dare you I never even heard of it Until you just said it right now I remember it It's about like the Westies Very good movie Such a good movie Real good movie Yeah So that's the second episode Me and Longo So that's just Maybe think of that That's a good one to remember That's a good one to remember I forgot about that State of Grace is great Another one on the list That a lot of people A lot of people see in this Because Biggie Smalls Raps about him Is The King of New York

47:30Yeah great movie You ever see The King of New York Christmas from Walking Yeah Alright but let me ask you this Does Heat count Is that a mob movie You know what I was thinking about Putting it in there But I didn't Because that's more of a Heist movie It's a heist movie But it's organized crime It is Yeah It is The guy who got out of jail It's based on a real dude The guy who was the De Niro character Who got out of jail That's based on a real dude Is he really Yeah yeah yeah He did a bunch of robberies And then he went to jail For a long ass time And got out and did a bunch More robberies Was he a mob dude

48:00I don't He was organized crime For sure But it's like Who was he connected to Was he connected to the mafia Was he independent Organized crime But he was like Super sophisticated It was a fantastic movie Phenomenal movie But does American Gangster count Right That probably does By the way It's literally in the title Also in the title It says gangster Yeah that's what I'm saying That's true That's not That was a great movie That's a great movie That's a fucking great movie You know the funny And now also based on a real dude Yeah

48:30The Heat The movie Heat A funny thing about Al Pacino in that movie He's over the top of it You know She's got a Great ass Big ass Any given Sunday When I seen him He spoke about his role And he goes What they didn't When he goes What influenced him About playing that character Is that he was The character was Chipping off pieces of cocaine Like he was like a coke head And they kind of Took that out of the movie But that's how he was playing

49:00Like all coked up Interesting So that kind of It kind of explains it Like how he was so Out of his mind So they didn't show it in the movie But that was how it was written He said it It was Yes That his He was like Chipping off pieces of cocaine Did they just Edit that out of the movie I have no clue But he definitely said it In an interview Was it in the movie I don't believe so They did not have him do it In the movie Imagine you're doing that You're doing this All coked up character And he's doing coke And then they cut out All the coke Everybody's like What the fuck's wrong with him Once he said that If you're playing a drunk You were going to remove the alcohol

49:31It made perfect sense though Once he said it He goes That's why I chose Some of the choices I made for that character If there was no meth How much less crime Would there be 50% Yeah for sure I mean Just think about How many ridiculous crimes Get cooked up While they're on meth Literally Or to get the meth Yeah Right Meth influence Do you remember that North Hollywood shootout It was just like The movie Heat Oh yes They were in body armor

50:00These dudes had body armor They had like fucking Big giant machine guns And shit They were literally Just walking up the street Blasting people Apparently they were Roided out of their Fucking minds These dudes are roided Out of their minds Doing coke And they robbed This bank in North Hollywood And the cops boxed them in They had a shootout On the street Oh yeah I was on news Radio at the time We stopped production Of the show To watch it on television Really Everybody was like What the fuck Is going on

50:30It was so crazy How far from you Was it Real close Real close Like we We were in Studio City North Hollywood's 15 minutes away 10 minutes away Real close In the middle of the street Oh shit You ever see the footage It's crazy The news footage The footage is crazy And here's what's crazy One of the cops Shot one of the dudes And then did not Call for ambulance Did not And then people Were criticizing him That he let the guy Bleed out Damn Yeah I remember These fucking Crazy liberals They were criticizing him

51:00Because this Psychopathic murderer Who just robbed a bank Who was gunning down cops Because he let him Bleed out And didn't get him To an ambulance in time Shit Yo Exactly I think we know That guy's guilty Yeah Okay this goes CGI In 1996 Save the taxpayers See if you can find that Jamie Because it's crazy To watch man I've got to find The best footage on I saw it In the middle of the street Dude In the middle Yeah yeah yeah So these guys Were having a shootout This guy's walking Down the street

51:30Damn It was like a movie Yeah like a fucking movie It did look like a movie Shooting at cops dude And this is just One part of it Sometimes he was Ducking behind cars With giant rifles and shit I mean they were just Armed to the tits Oh they got him This is him at the end So I think at the end He's probably trying to die It's a pretty long scene too Like when the real When the real shit went down I forgot how it ends Oh Oh we got him with another shot This sick keeps going Because then the other guy comes So he's trying to die What's this guy doing He's probably already been shot This guy's doing A little GTA action now

52:00This It went on for a long Last time too And this was back when If something happened They would We interrupt General Hospital To show you The Hollywood shootout Hollywood shootout Bro this is in the caveman days I lived in the caveman days Yo what year was this This is like 97 97 Oh 97 Yeah Really Oh I thought See I don't even remember this Yeah I remember it big time Yeah I do too Because it was crazy Because I have a friend My friend Justin He's always said He goes dude

52:30Let me tell you something Six armed dudes That know what the fuck They're doing Could take over a whole city I was like really He goes Cities are so vulnerable We're so vulnerable What Six dudes Six operators Really know what they're doing Could take over a whole city Guys who like Used to work for Blackwater Yeah Come over Yeah Yeah He's like You should be fucking surprised So when you see Something like this happen It's like How do they keep These fucking crazy people From You know

53:01We need to do a better job Of finding out Where the meth is going I know You should fucking have a You know You want to trace Illegal aliens Find out Who's bringing in the meth Who's bringing Where's that fucking meth Coming in I know a lot of people Are coming in They just make it Yeah they can make it Well you need precursors They try to lock down Most of the drugs For it now Like the Sudafed And shit I mean you gotta give a license To get that stuff Now that's why These people That are making that They're not using that They're getting real chemicals They're getting the real precursors But you have to get them From like China

53:30So they're getting them From China Cooking it up in Mexico Bringing it across the border Wee The truck stopper Driving all night long Breaking bad Breaking bad Walter White doing that shit Yeah great Another great TV show I've talked about it A thousand times But there's a book That we just read It's called Blitzed This dude Norman Ohlher It's all about the Nazis They gave them Nazis meth Oh yeah There's that scene of Hitler fucking

54:00Watching the fucking Games Yeah but apparently What they did was They were given a mess So they could go Three days through Poland So they could just Storm through Poland And so when they did this No one thought They could get across The whole country In three days And you really couldn't Unless you didn't sleep So all they did Is gave these guys meth ! And they gave different Meth to different doses To different jobs So like if you were in the tanks They gave you the most meth You're at the front of the line Fucker! Just like Just yelling in German

54:31And just boom! Boom! Did you see that tank fucking movie? I was just watching it last night Since you said that Brad Pitt Oh yeah Period That's fucking pretty badass That's a badass movie John Bernenthal That's a badass movie Yeah He's a good actor He's great He's a good dude too Very interesting guy The Punisher Yeah he's very smart Yeah I had him on the podcast I'm like he's a genuine thinker You know he really thinks Sometimes you talk to actors And they're like pretending To be a guy

55:00That you would want to talk to Yeah That's what it feels like When you talk to them Like they're not really there But John's like right there He's also phenomenal In a movie that a lot of people Didn't see called Shot Caller Oh! Oh yeah yeah Shot Caller with Jamie Lannister Game of Thrones guy Yeah the Game of Thrones guy That's a fucking great What's it about? It was good Oh it basically Jamie Lannister I just know him as Jamie Lannister He's you know He's like a yuppie guy He's going out to eat With another couple He goes through a red light He gets through a car accident Next thing you know He's facing prison time

55:31And he's like not a guy He made for prison Remember that old Tom Hanks Not Tom Hanks Tom Selleck movie Innocent Man Something kind of like that But he really did the accident Next thing you know He gets to the prison He doesn't want to be no bitch And it goes from there And he becomes a hardcore Fucking guy They call him money And that's how he ends up But he didn't start off like that Jesus And oh man Is it a You know who's in it? Keith Jardine Really? Yeah Keith Jardine's a cellmate in there He's great in it Oh he's a must book for any prison movie Oh yeah Oh yeah

56:00I don't think he's Yeah no doubt about that That fucking guy Yeah I believe him He was great Don't laugh John Rallo You next Yeah you look like you'd be in prison too Yeah well you could be in that movie easily You'd be part of that fucking Aryan hood I remember when Keith Jardine beat Chuck Liddell I was like wow Yeah right That was a Yeah No one saw that coming That was a big win And then he suffered some of the same losses You know To like Houston Alexander Houston Alexander one was crazy Houston like smoked Bro

56:30Chomp slammed him and shit He did him He just had a bare knuckle boxing fight recently Really? Houston Alexander did I believe so He's in his 40s No he's got to be in his 50s He's in his 50s He's either bare knuckle boxing Or maybe like celebrity boxing I forget Some kind of boxing thing he just did But Houston Alexander in his prime was terrifying Yeah he was He was terrifying Yeah he had some hands on him He had crazy power Yeah like if he did bare knuckle when he was younger He would have been perfect for it Oh yeah Oh he's built for it Yeah He was a victim of his own success

57:00That's what happened He knocked out a couple people quick May 19th 2023 Bare knuckle He won Man look at them results Beat Joey Beltran Joey Beltran Get out of here Yeah Jeremy Smith Damn look at him He's still out there fighting But he always was in phenomenal shape Yeah Like that dude was jacked Yeah definitely With that Keith Jardine fight Jardine had him hurt And so Jardine got a little overzealous And game after him And Houston Alexander caught him

57:30That was a shocker Yeah Because Keith Jardine was a name Yeah And this just upstart This guy coming out of nowhere I think he was a radio DJ I think he beat Was Sakara after that The Italian Alessio Sakara Yeah I thought he beat him too I thought he beat Kimbo too Yeah Kimbo But I think he was a radio DJ at the time Could you imagine like being a radio DJ People talking to DJs and shit Man that dude suck man Yeah right It was a radio DJ while he was fucking people up

58:00It's kind of crazy It's like you in the barbershop Din Thomas That's right They complain about that fade Nah ain't no complaining about my fade You did a nice You used to hook my head up on her Every week when I still had hair Yup That's how we became friends Cause they brought it On the Ultimate Fighter 4 They brought in some chick Cause they know we You know We're not seeing our Fiances or girlfriends or anything We have no women We got no porn We're not jerking off in the same rooms So fucking They bring in some girl To do our hair Code At least as far as they know

58:33I'm not working over there But uh So they brought in some Stylist And she's not giving me a fade So I'm like get the fuck Din's like I got you I said I got you man You did You did a nice fade Yeah You know To look good is to feel good You're probably the reason Why I won that show Yeah You can never repay me for that You were the best Din Thomas What season are they on now 32 That's crazy You know what's sad man The other day I just did a um A camera crew from uh

59:00Toronto came down They're doing a thing called Dark Side of the Cage And they want to interview me About War Machine And they came out And I did a thing for that And I uh It just depressed me It just It was just It just brought me down Cause that was a kid Did you know him Had him on the podcast When he was That's right When When he was on the show There's some guys That are just evil And there's other guys That I think that If they had the right people Around them They could have made Different choices And that's He was like a A goofy

59:30He had issues He was emotional He always felt like The stack was against Cards was stacked against The type of thing But But But he was still There was something likable About him on the show When he was on season six Of The Ultimate Fighter He was like Like a prankster He did it up A decker And fucking the guy's toilet He was like a silly guy But I felt that If there was somebody If he had the right people Around him I think he could have made Obviously a lot better choices But think about that But that goes for all of us Right Because we all kind of Came from the same shit

60:00From back in the day Right And then Me and Matt We still in the game Yeah But then look at guys Like him And Phil Barone Well that's the guy Who was Listen You can have too much You know You can have too much bravado You can have too much crazy And then it'll ruin your life Yeah And there's like Every fighter has a certain Amount of crazy And some guys keep Their crazy chamed They keep it all locked up They keep it locked up In a fucking Behind that mask But some guys They just Their crazy burns them down It burns down

60:30Everything around them And then You know You got the CTE And CTE comes into play Then there's a lot of guys That just get real impulsive They become addicts They fuck up All relationships They can't keep Their shit together They're either crying Or they're angry Some guys that are just Bad eggs There are guys That are bad eggs But there are guys For sure that are bad eggs That then get CTE Oh I know There's probably Both Yeah But like War Machine The one guy to show up At his trial To be there for him

61:00And again You show me your friends You show me who you are And it was Phil Barone Now Phil Barone Is not a good guy I know the guy's from Long Island Million stories about him And Well isn't he in jail right now Well that's what I'm saying In Mexico Yeah Not only did he Be there for War Machine He outdid him You know War Machine Put his girl in the hospital Beat the shit out of her And now You know Barone's in jail For you know Allegedly You know Murder Murder In Mexico Yeah Puerto Vallarta I think You know It was like

61:30A bad one too Oh Beating to death Oh yeah And now that guy I mean listen Allegedly Allegedly Yeah But it's brutal man So hey You know These guys come You know Again But back to War Machine I don't know It makes me more Like Phil I always knew Was a piece of shit But War Machine I felt could have been helped I really do I mean What it's done is done But I don't know It depresses me Because I thought There was some There was some You had him on the show Didn't you think There was something about

62:00I never would have imagined That he would have done that Right But I would imagine That he would lose his cool If anybody Like challenged him A male A male I just never thought That he would do that I mean To a girl To a girl The way he did that too I mean She's all right I was shot The whole thing It's just Just awful Every part about it Is awful Depressed the hell out of me And how many guys That are doing this Like have also experienced That in their life Like seen their mother Been beaten Been beaten by their father

62:30Grew up in an abusive household Where everybody hits everybody There's a lot of kids Unfortunately in this world That grow up With parents Beating the shit out of them And beating the shit Out of each other Yeah It's crazy If you ever talk to Joe Pifer man Joe Pifer Oh yeah Oh my god That's my guy He was on your podcast The reason why He's a fucking assassin Yeah Right Because that dude's angry Angry All the time Angry all the time And he hits like A fucking neutron bomb He's terrifying I was working with him Last week

63:00When I was with Brady And him And we were doing elbows And my wrist Still ain't the same right now Bro When he banged out Barrio I was like Jesus Christ I mean With more seasoning Jack Della I mean Jack Hermanson Yeah Jack Hermanson Fought a beautiful fight Yeah He outsmarted him Outsmarted him Had more time in the game Yeah And Jack's stand up Has gotten a lot better Over the years He used to be just This wicked grappler But he can I mean He held his own On the feet And won the fight

63:30Mostly with striking Right Yeah For sure And pace And just not Knowing not to empty The gas tank But Pfeiffer is so scary That he gets everybody Out of there so quick Yeah Pfeiffer is going to be up there With the best of them Oh man I promise you that I believe you 100% He's terrifying And like a dude like that He needs a fight like that Just to kind of like Put it in perspective Yeah Put him in check He said alright I got a lot more to learn Yeah You gotta learn the gas tank Yeah How many guys don't learn The gas tank Right You know That's what's great About Brady the other day

64:00Yeah Incredible He knew when to Put the foot on the gas I was more impressed With his stand up Thank you Stand up was sharp Earlier It was all his grappling And I'm thinking This guy I texted him right after A fight And that was what I complimented And I gotta give Props to John Marquez Out in Philly John Marquez He's been putting it together He's been putting it And working with them guys You know You can tell He's a good student too man Because every fight You see him And I think in the Bilal Muhammad fight Early in the fight He was giving Bilal Some trouble Standing up But Bilal just put it I don't know if Bilal Gets nearly the respect

64:30He deserves Nah but Bilal's the man Yeah Bilal's the man Bro the way he put it On Leon Edwards How the fuck Do you not give that guy All the props No Dude he handled All the flowers He handled Sean He handled Gilbert And he stopped Sean He handled everybody Standing up He stopped Sean Standing up You know And then When you see what he did To Leon You're like Good lord Right It just Overwhelmed him Overwhelming pressure And on the feet too On the feet yeah On the feet Real fucking dangerous Never lets you get set Had Leon Making excuses

65:01About the time change Put it that way Yeah man It's a different Kind of fight Yeah Leon never Never found his timing Ever Yeah And bro That guy going to Dagestan Was like the ultimate move Yeah The ultimate move You get involved with Khabib Especially with his kind of style And his work ethic Yeah Like that dude has a work ethic Maybe his top control You know Look definitely Look better I also think It's good that he didn't get the props Because it keeps him hungry It keeps you hungry It keeps you fucking 100% I'll show you bitches

65:31He still likes it Yeah Yo he's still like that too man He's still He's still hungry He's still down to earth Like he ain't get all You know high class No no no Well he's just begun Right So this is a championship run He proved everybody wrong He won the title He's telling everybody Fuck you Even though he doesn't even swear He says fudge He'll say like fudge you I'm like what's wrong with you man He's supposed to cuss He's crazy He doesn't cuss But like that guy's just beginning his run You know So who knows But that division Who do you think they give him next I think they give him Kamaru

66:00That's what I thought too That's what I thought It's the smart fight And I think they owe But they owe Kamaru For Kamaru taking Hamzan On ten days notice Right And also in a three rounder Instead of a five Exactly When he won the third Right exactly So he's got the L Which is if he's going five rounds Maybe he doesn't get an L Yeah I think he doesn't get the L It looked to me like he was coming on in the third He had to figure him out And also he had to trust his gas tank The guy trained ten days One of the scariest motherfuckers on earth On earth That's a gangster On earth I say you gotta give it to Kamaru

66:31Because I think Kamaru earned it From that alone He had to weather that fucking storm Of a first round Yeah I know You're getting off the couch Even if you're in great shape You have to weather something like that That can get your endurance down right there Done already 100% And he didn't He had to know like How much do I have Like how do I manage this But he did manage it He didn't get stopped He didn't get finished And then he comes on And wins the third round You gotta go Come on man You won't have any more years of Kamaru He's like 37 now That's what I'm And he doesn't have time To go on another run

67:00Just give him the title shot Is he 37? He's gotta be 37 now How old is Kamaru? I say give him a shot I say give him a shot Shavkot He got time Not only that Every win He gets He's a legend Bigger and bigger legend Yeah Bigger and bigger legend 37 See Give it to him Give it to Kamaru And you gotta get them Badass knees too man We can't Yeah Exactly I send him Every time I find something On stem cells I send it to him Do you? Yeah Because they're They're regenerating cartilage now No kidding I'm thinking about doing that shit For my I'm starting to feel my shoulders man You should

67:30You should do it How long are you in town for? Tomorrow What time tomorrow do you leave? In the morning Yeah What time in the morning? I think like 7 or something Oh really? We'll get you in at 5.30 Stem cells I might be able to get you in this afternoon Yeah Yeah Really? Let me see I think I gotta go to Columbia for that shit No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Ways to Well can do stuff here They do different things in Columbia In Columbia What they can do is they can multiply the stem cells So they can take stem cells They do that in the CPI down in Tijuana

68:01That's the place That's And they have a whole arrangement with the UFC They have a partnership with the UFC CPI is incredible They're in Tijuana Damn My buddy has a spot at home called LifeMed They have a deal with the UFC as well Petrovsky goes there Like a bunch of these guys doing that stuff Stem cells are absolutely legit Yeah Yeah Cause I mean Listen I got a new knee And it's holding up great But I hear stuff with the shoulders You're fucked You can't get soldier surgeries and shit I'm not even looking Well you can But it's gonna You can't use it anymore

68:30It's gonna take some time It's a complicated joint But do you do anything to strengthen your shoulders? Do you do any workouts? I mean no I mean I do my pushups And I hang from my bar Just to stretch the shit out Anybody Anybody that has shoulder problems I have no affiliation with these people Get yourself crossover symmetry bands Get yourself these bands They start with like 5 pounds or something like that I use a 25 pound one It's not a lot of force And I do a series of exercises Just to stabilize my shoulders

69:00A whole series of different things that I do Every week no matter what I do these It's like that thing with the coils back in the day It is but it's just It's like a bungee cord It's like a cord Like a you know A rubber strap that you're pulling on Yeah And there's My physical therapist has them too Different ones Different ones have different weights to them So you can start off low But the whole idea is There's a whole chart that comes with it And shows you all the different things And it just strengthens all the shit That you don't strengthen Interesting When you're just lifting weights Okay If you're just lifting weights Or especially if you're just rolling

69:30How often are you really using those shoulder muscles? You're using everything Right? So are your shoulder muscles getting a good workout? Or is your cardiovascular system And your legs And your biceps And your back That getting a good workout? But you're going to miss some muscle groups Jiu-jitsu misses muscle groups And the only way to like really strengthen joints I think Is exercise And I think you got to do weights and bands And a bunch of shit Just to protect your joints That's like that knees over toes guy This thing you were talking about too Helps to really stabilize

70:00You know the connective The ligaments Yeah It tightens all the stabilizers up And that's the That's the thing everybody neglects Because if you go too heavy Your delt takes over And your rotator cuff's not getting it So Exactly You know this kind of This kind of stuff is Definitely should be used That knees over toes guy Got a whole shoulder bulletproofing program too With like light dumbbells Where you're doing a bunch of these things Yeah I love his knee shit See I got to do that Because holding pads for people Oh And it tears your shoulders up And for you That's all All day long I'm like golly

70:30Isn't it crazy how some dudes Just have crack Just have some extra crack I'm telling you Joe Pfeiffer Oh Extra crack Yeah for sure Extra crack For sure I wouldn't want to hold pads for that dude You're going to get carpal tunnel syndrome Yeah And that's what happened to me All in one week Matt Sarah you had extra crack You had extra crack Crack That's right Extra crack You had a thing Matt Sarah You would catch people You would catch people And you would see this like Oh no Look on their face

71:00Like when you caught GSP I remember thinking Like this Because we already knew By then That you could knock people out With one shot Which was so odd For a jujitsu guy So like everybody Had to worry about your ground game But they always have to worry About being in the pocket Because one of those hammers Drops in there And you got a real problem On your hands I ain't going to lie When I fought Matt I was like Ain't going to let him Hit me with that right hand Ain't going to take me down Before that It's a little fire plug It's a thing But you didn't have a background In striking as a child Right No My father used to hold pants for me

71:31I had a wooden dummy in my garage I used to do all Wing Chun And I'll tell you right now If you're doing Wing Chun As something to add on That's fun But the trapping range The grappling's right there Anytime I got into a real fight I'd start with a chain punch And I'd do my double leg I think there's something to it For transitions Me too I think there's something To having all those moves Think about how many times You see boxers Literally swat a guy's hand down To land a punch Oh the puck's out That's a fun shit

72:00Kamaru Usman Jorge Masvidal Yes But by itself It's shit Of course But Taekwondo by itself Is shit too Everything by itself is shit Exactly All those things But I think I knew a dude Who was really good at Wing Chun And he was explaining Some things to me And some of the things That he was showing me There's certain vulnerabilities If you're inside with someone Where they can really easily Manipulate your arms Back and forth And move your guard around And drop elbows on you Like Wing Chun And then Muay Thai

72:30You see some of the Muay Thai stuff Where guys grab wrists And come over the top There's a lot That's a lot of Wing Chun The difference is When you look at two Muay Thai guys Getting to a street fight It'll probably look something like You're watching them In a Muay Thai fight You put two Kung Fu masters In there with each other guys It is the worst grappling match I've ever seen Because it starts like A hip man movie And then they fucking On the floor I go what the I go that white belt's winning Guys are dropping For ankle locks It's fucking horrendous

73:00I've seen a few of those I've seen a few of those But I feel the western boxing Like Longo got me Obviously got them You know I had to learn On the job You know Because it's different Back in the day Because everything started When the UFC came out Everybody's like Oh fuck all the striking So I was like In my mentality I'm like alright I gotta just close the distance You can't trade And then I had to relearn Like no no no Sometimes you gotta be in the fire And you have to learn Those mechanics And what not Well that's the difference Between guys

73:30Who are pretty good And guys who become champions Is like this ability To absorb other skills And then implement them At a world class level While you're an adult Which is crazy It's not easy to do It's crazy It's very hard to do And most guys They like Are always gonna be A step behind The guys who started out As a child Oh 100% More natural to them Right Speaking of crack Speaking of crack Mark Dellegrati Says that you have The hardest kick That he's ever held for And that's something Say Mark Dellegrati

74:00That's a very nice To help for a lot of people I kick pretty hard Yeah Not a lot of people Might give you that credit for that And then he said Joe give him a line If you give him a call He's got the best fucking kick No I'm kidding I like Mark Dellegrati On season four We didn't have set coaches He was like an assistant coach And he gave Above and beyond for everybody Yeah no Shut up Mark Dellegrati He's a great dude And a great coach too I love training with him Yeah He showed me all kinds of things

74:30That tightened up my technique All kinds of things All kinds of things Just in transitions Like transitional techniques Like different things to do Off of different kicks And shit He's still teaching And has a school right Yeah he still has a school What is it called Cidgetoms That's what I was gonna say Yeah When I train with that dude I try to hurt him You try to hurt him I try to hurt those arms Oh yeah I'm gonna hurt those four arms You know He was letting us Hit the pads Take them down Hit on the floor Like he earned his He earned his cash On fucking Ultimate Final Yeah he did

75:00He's a man He's a man And he's a great coach And you know Speaks Thai Fluently Does he really? I didn't know that Fluently Speaks Thai Oh that's wild Yeah he can go to Thailand And just talk to people No kidding Yeah yeah yeah He's gone We've gone to Thai restaurants And he just orders What? With a Boston accent Yeah he does Yeah with a Boston accent Oh yeah you can tell It's Mac that a gratis That's funny Yeah Mac He does he speaks Thai He fought in Thailand a bunch Yeah I knew that But I didn't know he spoke Thai He's an interesting dude Very interesting dude Hey uh Are we breaking out The smelling salts

75:30Are you scared? I am scared He's waiting Hold on so what do they do? This is the strongest shit I know what they do I mean maybe there's some stronger shit That I'm not aware of But this is uh Juju Mufu Should give us like a discount code Um It's called Ah This dude Juju Mufu Do you know who he is? I've never heard of him You ever seen him? Crazy power lifter athlete Super athletic Juju Mufu Crazy athletic But built like Bobby Lashley Okay Where he can do full splits Over tables Splits While he's like doing like 500 pound overhead squats Yeah Bro he's crazy flexible

76:00And he wears a thong He's a nut He's a nut He's like always doing nutty shit For the internet So does smelling salts Will get me looking like that? No no no I think you need some other things I'm afraid of my stomach You take the smelling salts Before you lift that weight I'm not gonna smell this And have to shit myself You take the smelling salts Before you go across the border With 15 pounds of steroids Ah So You think it's gonna Make me have to use the bathroom? No No no no no So Again This is a fresh one The fresh ones are the strongest Jesus Christ

76:30This is so strong That I'm gonna open it It's a sealed bottle The bottle's sealed And the bag is sealed too God damn My hands are sweaty This It stinks already Smell it Just smell it It stinks already I haven't even opened the bag yet The bag is still sealed You guys are gonna find out The bag is still sealed So I'm gonna open this Just Okay Smell that Smell that Just get a whiff And it's sealed inside the bag I get it It's sealed This is fully Fully sealed Fully sealed You got it? Right right right But it's You're not even ready yet

77:01You don't even know What's happening now This is ammonia This is Yeah that's This is where it goes on It's bad Let's go Let's go Ready Here we go Oh we're going this night Count of clockwise Take a deep Big deep Deep deep Deep breaths A few inches from the nose And just go for it Oh That's a little Vicks vapor rub Oh my god

77:31Rallo probably did it this morning Before he woke up Yo Man it's been many many years Wow Get in there Rallo Oh I think you lied to me I think I have to take a shit That'll cure snoring For sure I just did three Motherfucker Yeah I'm sweating Guys Dude what movie is this from? Blade Blade Oh I love that Best opening scene of any superhero movie of all time

78:05Did you see Deadpool and Wolverine? No But I You can't fuck with this You cannot fuck with the opening scene in Blade When they all turn into vampires And he thought he was going to fuck Tracy Lords Oh yeah So he's down there hanging out with Tracy Lords And he doesn't know she's a vampire And she leads him down in this basement Where he sees bodies hanging from meat hooks He doesn't He's like what the fuck is this place? And then the sprinkler starts spraying blood And everybody turns into a vampire around him And he's freaking out

78:30And he's trying to get out of there And she's like Hey baby This is a great movie And he gets his ass kicked And they're all beating him up And they're about to kill him And Wesley Snipes shows up So is Wesley Snipes back as Blade? They're going to have him back as Blade now Right? Yeah because You haven't seen Wolverine Is it? Yeah he's Thank God Should we say? They should have brought him back as Blade Right when he got out of prison But you ain't like You didn't like sticky fingers? Here it is Here it is This is the scene Jesus Like oh shit It's the Daywalker They're like oh no

79:03Come on bro It's the greatest scene The greatest scene In any martial arts slash superhero movie ever And then he fucks everybody up of course That was great Yeah So what do people do to smelling salts for? They do it before they lift Yeah power lifters do it before they take a big lift A lot of times Oh just like one before Yeah Guys would have this shit in their gym bags And they bring it with them And when they're ready to go for something crazy They want to do some big dead lift

79:30Right? That's it It's got to be good for your sinuses Yeah I was about to say I think it's good for America I think it's good for everything I think it's good for everything We have them at the studio Or at the comedy club Dudes take smelling salts Before they go on stage Oh really? Yeah it's fun Pass it around the room And everyone's like Let me try Let me try Yeah Before I attack my wife But the stuff Hey Hey Hey Give me that Hey Nah I'm gonna get I'm gonna have the pain I might bring that home with me

80:00The stuff we have at the comedy club though Is not this strong This is the strongest one Oof This one fucks you up The other ones you can kind of get in there a little bit Yeah Yeah I like it You get too close with that one And it'll burn the inside of your head I like it Hey I felt that I felt like I felt it in my brain You want to go round two? Do it man I went round two I feel like that's what happens You want to go round three? That's what happens with everybody Everybody like They get it And they're like Wow that was terrible That was terrible Let me do it again One more time

80:30You do threes with the Ozens? It's supposed to help Exposedly I do threes You know why? You make me feel like a crackhead I do this He got me into the sixes Yeah I backed off Because I was realizing I think I like these things too much Supposedly gets the body To hit a little adrenaline Oh really? That does Yeah we're talking about The nicotines doesn't Oh no no I like the nicotines though I like them too much too I like them when I'm having conversations What do you do to me now? They're good I don't think it's bad I just think you gotta be careful Why? Like I like to take days off See if it's freaking me out So far no problems

81:01I'm having fun It's the trifecta now I told y'all Whatever y'all do today I'm doing One more time Yeah I'm good Oh this is dying out Yeah if you keep the lid off It's dying out already In between uses Keep it But I think it's You know It's probably Jesus How consistent are they With his water Din you're doing everything I was just about to say I'm about to cry I'm about to pull a Khalil Roundtree On y'all I'm feeling emotional Khalil's gonna be mad at you I'm feeling emotional right now I'm not sure No no I'm not Khalil Roundtree kicking me

81:30No no no Khalil I'm sorry I just wanted to tell you I'm sorry But that is gonna be a wild fight I'll tell you what Oh shit yeah That's gonna be a wild fight It's gonna be fan friendly for sure Yeah Khalil's probably Never shot a takedown His entire career I think Khalil can win too No he's never shot a takedown In the UFC Bro if Khalil hits anybody He can knock you out Alex gets hit You know I mean It's a fact Well he puts himself He's got that crazy style man That style That snake like style That he has And the hands down Yeah he holds his hands right here

82:01And just like Pop pop You've seen him sparring right You've seen some of those videos Of him sparring Like really good boxers man Yeah real good He's staying in the pocket with him too And that style is hard to handle Because it's so weird They're used to everything Like that one boxer That he was training with He's like I don't know if he's professional But he's a big heavyweight Very skillful But everything was like Real traditional Right And then you see Pereira's moving at you Like a cobra Like it's so hard to figure out What the fuck he's doing And you're lucky He's not kicking you You know he's just

82:30Punching this dude But Hey like you said Khalil If he lands If he lands Everybody goes night night Yeah for sure Everybody goes night night That guy's fast as fuck I know And he fights angry How old is Pereira? They're both about the same age I believe 34 maybe? How old is Khalil? I think Pereira's 35 And I think Khalil is probably In that same range Alex is 37 Alex is 37 Wow How old is Khalil? Wow Yeah so

83:01I had no idea he was that old 37 But that's like 34 And fighting well It's 37 Amazon warrior years It's unusual last fight You know it's like Yo I'm a Mary And he don't have a lot of damage I'm a 36 on mine Khalil's 34 Speaking of superheroes Yeah he doesn't He has some damage though Some kickboxing fights You know he got stopped Yeah that's true And you know the one with The bad one with Izzy That was a bad one That was a bad KO And that's a weight drain KO You know

83:30Yeah definitely KO at 85 And just Izzy caught him With that perfect right hand Well I asked too Because when guys Guys that fight Like Roy Jones Amazing But an amazing athlete He was so much faster Than everybody fought with He could keep his hands down Right And still never get hit But When he started to slow down Right Everybody knocked him out So I'm That's why I asked how old Prair was Because I'm like Maybe when he slows a bit And the hands are down Yeah that's for sure

84:00The button starts to get pushed I think This is my opinion With Roy What happened was He went up And he fought John Ruiz And then he went down And he fought Tartt I don't think he was He was not the same I think And I don't know But I would imagine If you want to get really big What do you do There's not a lot of ways To get really big How do you go from 168 To 200 pounds How do you do that Well you lift some weights Get a little help You got some friends Yeah yeah So then you have to get off of that And then you have to drop 25 pounds from your body

84:31So your body's fully acclimated To this new frame That's a hard cut That's a point And he looks If you look at the way he looked Pre-Tarver fight Like if you go back And watch him fight Like James Toney When he was in his prime You watch him fight Like some of the better fights Of his career Like the Vinny Pazienza fight Where he didn't get hit With one punch He was so nasty I've watched that fight He was so nasty But he was also shredded Yeah He was shredded And he looked like hard Like ripped He had the most

85:00He's a rock Defined bicep His left arm His left bicep is twice as big As his right But when you see him After the Tarver fight He looks way more smooth I think that cut was hard Man I think that cut was hard And then he probably got off Whatever he got on Yeah for sure And then your system's not working right And if you don't have a good doctor And you're just trying to do this With gym bros That's right Next thing you know You're in those shitty Matrix sequels Didn't have any HCG And all of a sudden Remember the Glenn Johnson one Remember the Glenn Johnson one Man I felt bad for him After that That was a bad one That was a bad one

85:32And that was off the Tarver fight Right And so you see like All of a sudden This dude just can't take a shot anymore And Glenn Johnson Who was one of those Unheralded dangerous dudes That could really kind of beat anybody That crazy clamshell style Yeah Who was the boy that knocked him out In Australia Mmm I don't know Kyle Zagy didn't knock him out right No But he shut him out though He shut him out Yeah Kyle Zagy's tough Kyle Zagy would just throw volume at him Yeah Yeah for sure Just volume He Roy Jones

86:00Roy Jones He was in his face like Woo Yeah Different Roy Jones though Yeah Different Roy Jones Yeah If you fought the Roy Jones That James Toney had a fight Then Yeah yeah yeah That's not happening Different thing One of the purest power punchers Was Julian Jackson Oh my god Yes The Hulk Yeah Oh Oh my god You know Kevin Kevin Holland's coach Used to work with him Really Yeah They're like really good friends That guy had That guy was a savage Bad guy had power Power Play that

86:30Play the Terry Norris fight Julian Jackson Terry Norris Lost to Danny Green in Australia Yeah Danny Green Danny Green Yeah Yo dude I'm gonna use the head real quick Go ahead Go go You don't have to say You know my ass Yeah Terry Norris Terry Norris And Julian Jackson Terry Norris Right Dude you just do Julian Jackson Highlights This one's terrifying This one's terrifying Well Terry Norris That poor guy Yeah He's in real rough shape now I don't think nobody had more One punch power than

87:00Julian Jackson No No one Short Short punches too Just black I used to love him Yeah Orland Norris He's good too Oh yeah His brother was a heavyweight And he was a 47 I remember 47 and 54 right But watch this Julian Jackson KO It's so crazy Because it's like He just shuts him off He hit He hit And Terry Norris Was a killer Oh this is a prime Terry Norris This is a prime Terry Norris This is a dangerous Terry Norris here But he just catches him

87:31Watch this Bing Okay so that was the first one So he hurt him with that left hand But he catches him with the right hand And just freezes him Oh my god I'm gonna get my hair cut like his He's just a pure one punch fighter Yeah this guy was Some guys just like Look at him stalking I would be terrified He's waiting to hit you with it I would be terrified If that guy was stalking me like that It's just he knows All he has to do is get you once And every time he hits you

88:02You know it too Cause you're like Oh shit This is fucking terrifying Oh man So he's already softened him up And there it is Oh man Oh man He took two more He didn't need to He took two more He was out on his feet Bro And those were wind up ones Jesus The last two he took Were wind up ones Julian Jackson was terrifying They're short And Gerald Those punches are Oh Gerald McClellan Gerald McClellan Had his number Like I felt so bad for him Like cause he got slept so fast

88:30In those fights No Gerald McClellan Was a 75 pounder Oh they fought twice Gerald McClellan Fought Terry Norris Julian Jackson Oh Oh that's right But that's when Julian went up Yeah yeah yeah So was Julian a middleweight At this time I believe so Cause the crazy thing is like I didn't know that Cause Terry Gerald McClellan And Julian Jackson Were at the same weight class Yeah they wound up Fighting twice I was at one of the fights McClellan though Was like 175 though right At the MGM

89:00McClellan was so dangerous man My first live boxing card I ever went to Was in Vegas At the MGM And it was all rematches It was Jesse James Lehigh And Azuma Nelson Yeah It was I think it was Simon Brown And Vincent Petway It was Julian Jackson And Gerald McClellan And it was Julio Cesar Chavez And Frankie Randall God what weight is this at What weight is this at Because I know they were Trying to set up Middleweight Crazy

89:30So that's That's so that's before Well they were talking about A Roy Jones Jr. fight And I think he was Really struggling Was that a low blow Big time Yeah cause Gerald McClellan He was really struggling To make weight Gerald took his belt And then they rematched And he slept them And so the Nigel Benn fight That was middleweight as well Nigel Benn Man he That was the one That ended his career Gerald McClellan Yeah dude He was I mean in my opinion There was a lot of rabbit Punching And he wound up Having a blood clot In the back of his head

90:00Well there was also There was a nasty headbutt In that fight too But it's also Nigel Benn Came back from that First round Which oh Look at that KO Oh my goodness And in the rematch He sleeps him fast Oh my goodness What is going on With his hair That's what they did Back then What is that Hit and play High top fade Yeah but I mean It's like that And like the little His thighs He need them cut Oh my god Gerald McClellan Just coming after you For the kill Terrifying That's it Yeah Are they going to Let him count He just had

90:30He had his number man Beat him both times Well he was one of The scariest punchers Of all time Yeah both of them But he's another guy Who tried to empty The gas tank With Nigel Benn That first round And Benn survived And then he winds up Having that brain bleed That's one of the Scariest ones ever Man because Is this the rematch Okay let's watch This execution I remember this I was at this one This was in Vegas Yeah MGM Well once Gerald McClellan

91:00Knew that he could Put it on you It's like His power was just So nuts for that Weight class But I always wanted To know like What does he really Weigh He's like one of Those Benavidez guys Like when you get In there What do you really Weigh Because he He really struggled With the weight cut And that's one Oh my god Right away He gets them early Just teeing off dude In this one Teeing off That shot to the body My goodness He can't even Look up He's not even Giving him his chance

91:30To get off Just getting executed Every shot's got Murder on it Oh that left to the body Oh my goodness The power in these Fucking punches man Just overwhelming Yeah Liver shot They're giving him A standing eight Isn't that crazy Standing eight count Is kind of nuts It's the dumbest rule ever It's kind of nuts You're concussed Let me give you Eight seconds To clear your head And get concussed MMA is the way to do it It really is Well you remember When Shudo used to do Standing eight counts Yeah back in the day

92:01Yeah Yeah What do you think About red cards Or yellow cards I think they should Bring them back What would you bring Them back for Stalling Stalling Yeah That's probably about The only thing You should bring them Back for Stalling Like hanging out Too long Like hey man Get to work I used to like When there was a Submission And like pride And the referee Would be like What would he say Shot What would he say Catch Catch Catch Catch Yeah when someone

92:30Caught something Yeah What do you guys Think of Ortega And Lopez Crazy That's a good fight I think I think Lopez Gonna get them I mean I think Lopez Gonna get them I'm on that side Lopez went through A rollercoaster ride In his last fight I know Imagine that You got three Different opponents You got three Different weight classes Everything's changing Well you got two Different opponents Right but a bunch Of different weight classes And then Ortega Can't make it And so Ortega Steps out And then he winds Up fighting

93:00Ege Dan Ege 50k Ege On like 40 minutes Notice Right Dan was just Chilling at his house He might have Train that day Like something I didn't know About that But I was watching DC was actually Talking about this And he said That Ege Had been training For five or six weeks Obviously he took The fight On like a two hour call They said Lopez Had only been training For three weeks Yeah He said he actually Had shorter notice Oh that's crazy Because it was Short notice for him Because he got tired In the fight And everybody's thinking

93:30He's got a bad gas tank Well he had to cut weight Too though Yeah that's what I'm saying He cut weight to 45 Yeah so he had three weeks Of training Weight up and down Everywhere And they fought at 60 And he was able To pull it out Didn't they fight at 60 Yeah because it was Same day weigh in Same day weigh in Which is crazy Which is really like No one should be Cutting weight kids Right like at this point Like if you make The fight happen Just let him show up I think what they Really should do They really should do Is just find out What you fucking Actually weigh And just stop This nonsense It should be looked at

94:00The same way steroids Are looked at It should be looked at The same way All other kind of Cheating is looked at It's sanctioned cheating It is You're not really 155 pounds I agree with you Just whatever you weigh Just fight there Exactly And more options For weight classes Do you think Same day weigh in Would change it But it would get More guys hurt I mean they say That's the real problem Because of the dehydration And stuff This is the reason Why McClellan One of the things They say about Head injuries And death In boxing The vast majority Of them Don't take place

94:30At heavyweight So the guys Who hit the hardest Are not the guys Who are getting These horrible brain injuries Where they get dead Inside the ring Because they're not Cutting weight They're not cutting weight And the guys who die A lot Like the Duck Koo Kims If you look at the guys Who die A lot of them Boom Boom Was never the same After that How could you be You killed a guy A lot of those guys That are dying Are dying in the weight classes Where they cut a lot of weight Well I mean You're right So like Like Sean Brady And Gilbert Burns Over the weekend There ain't no way Sean Brady's 174

95:00That's what I'm saying No no That's what I'm saying That's what I'm saying Like just let them fight At 190 Right These guys are 190 pounders They walk into the cage At 190 They should just be fighting At 190 They should be fighting At 190 And this way They both agree to it You know You can't get any heavier Than 194 Whatever But we know what you weigh Let's just make a fight Yeah Fuck all this weight cutting It's just cheating And also The fucking drama Of seeing if a guy

95:30Dehydrated himself enough 24 hours before a cage fight Is somehow or another Interesting to people Where Daniel Cormier Is pushing down on that towel Remember that shit Oh yeah yeah yeah Remember DC Uh huh That's right It ain't cheating If you don't get caught It's ridiculous John Jones And Daniel Cormier Were both fucking killers Let them eat Yeah let them eat Let them hydrate themselves Fuck all this weighing in You know what you weigh Figure out what you weigh When you make the contract Yeah and then Just leave it alone That's what it is Yeah that's what it is That's what it is For sure That's what you weigh And be loose about it If a guy's a pound over

96:00A pound under Who gives a fuck But don't dehydrate yourself But how about what They did to Mikey Musumichi Oh right Wow He got fucked On his situation Well I mean He was going up in weight To fight Cade Rotolo So he went up to 170 And then like A couple days Like a week before They're like No you gotta go back down To 135 Cade Rotolo's out So they're And he's the champion And they treated him like this And they're like You gotta go back down And cut 30 pounds He gets sick Cutting 30 pounds Well he almost died Yeah They almost died

96:31And then they took his belt That's fucked up Wait a minute They took his belt Yes they took his belt For missing weight For missing weight Wait a minute Wait a minute Really Yes that's what I'm saying Like they Like one totally fucked him I didn't hear that Yes they took his belt I saw an article about it How can they take his belt When he's in the hospital For trying to do you a favor Exactly Yes that's my point Exactly I was shocked Because that's really not What they're supposed to be about How are you gonna make This fucking guy fight After he almost They had a statement Or after he's cutting 30 pounds

97:02How are you making him do that He's cutting 30 pounds In three days What's their statement One speaks out Okay what do they say After recent events We feel it is necessary To provide additional context On Mikey Musumechi's withdrawal From the 168 Denver card Sityotong and Musumechi Said of Musumechi Mikey was obviously Put in a difficult spot When Cade Rotolo withdrew Due to injury When that happened We worked closely with him And his team On a new opponent Competing at flyweight

97:30Was something that he Personally requested As he felt confident That he could make The hydrated limit Of 135 pounds For world title defense This is not something We pushed to him To do on short notice Or would have ever Demanded of a one athlete Given how much We prioritized fighter safety After Mikey failed weight And hydration tests On Thursday He requested an opponent Submission grappling contest Against Roberto Oliveira And we continued to work With him to try to keep him On the card Sityotong continued

98:01On Musumechi He ultimately felt It was his best interest To withdraw from the contest And we are honoring that This writing is uncertain When Musumechi Will return to one Or who will compete For the now vacant belt Musumechi was diagnosed With phoenum Pneumomediastinum Pneumomediastinum Pneumomediastinum A rare condition Which air leaks From a part of the lung Oh Jesus

98:30Wow How do you How do you Fucking strip a guy When he winds up In the hospital Like he didn't fight Right Exactly That doesn't make any sense Like imagine if Alex Is fighting Khalil Roundtree And in making weight He winds up in the hospital And the fight's cancelled He doesn't lose his belt Well in this organization It does That's crazy That's what I'm saying That's crazy See another reason Why weight cutting Should be Not allowed anymore It's nonsense It's terrible They're always gonna Fucking do it though Yeah but you know what man

99:01I think it's a part of the culture That can be eradicated I don't think it's impossible To eradicate it That's like saying Oh they can always do steroids Well USADA came along And they fixed that Right You know and now Drug free sport They fixed it It's like most of these athletes Are pretty clean There might be a few instances Of questionable behavior Perhaps a trip to a foreign land Is difficult to get to But you're right For the most part For the most part Because we've seen like Deteriorations of performance Because guys have had to clean up The Uber Eam era

99:30Was the best era When it was just It was an IQ test I was just looking at pictures Of him today Versus Uber Eam And it's pretty crazy Because he's lost a ton of weight Oh how he looks now Yeah yeah yeah Now he's like He's on a vegan diet And he's all spiritual Really? Yeah Alistair's like real thin now What is he He's maybe what 200 pounds? Yeah he's thinner than he was When he was fighting That's a weird picture It's hard to tell From that picture That's the best one I could find He looked bigger than the other ones Well he's still a big fucking guy

100:00They have like side by sides Of him then and now It's hard to tell In that picture He's always going to be A big guy You know he's a massive man But you know When he fought Brock Lesnar He was just a freak of science Yeah He was the freakiest of all freaks If you just let that dude Juice it up Like that That guy back in the day Yeah Ooh he was the most dangerous Because those kickboxing skills Were top notch Or how about Vitor When he was on Ooh Baby Yeah right Baby Traps up to his ears I know he had them turtle shells

100:31Back the old USG days I feel like you saw And robbed us Of the real Uber Eam Like if Uber Eam Could have stayed Uber Yeah Could have stayed Uber And just continued at 265 Ooh Baby baby baby He'd still be champ He might be man Bro Them kickboxing skills His kickboxing skills Were super legit I think I was a K1 Grand Prix champion Super legit kickboxing skills And he wasn't a bad grappler Neither He had a good guillotine He was a good grappler He won the Abu Dhabi trials In Europe Yeah

101:00Yeah No he's legit And man That fucking The kickboxing though Ooh Ooh Mmhmm It's funny how You know You look back on Those days Like especially the juicy days And you wonder Like What would the world Look like now If we were under The same sort of protocols That they were under then If there was no real Forget about the TRT days Because that was Everybody lost their fucking mind That was crazy You're allowing guys to juice up That was crazy But when there was just Tests at the weigh-ins

101:31That's a different thing man Yeah That's a different thing Just testing at the weigh-ins Yeah No randoms Right Yeah yeah yeah That's for sure Yeah IVs are fine Yeah Oh they are That's the old days man That is true It is rough to get hydrated Back up though Without this Yeah I don't Like what was the explanation For that Like doing away with them Masking People could use that To use it To mask Yeah apparently There's some ways That you can mask You just over flood Your system with fluids

102:00And it cleans out All the traces Of whatever metabolites Would be in there I guess you know There's probably a window Where it would get back In your urine It's hard to get hydrated Yeah that was kind of my point Because it kind of takes away From safety But I guess Bro they shouldn't be doing that They shouldn't be dehydrating Themselves 24 hours Before a case fight I mean But they are I know But it seems like You know I actually said this To the guys That bought the UFC When I was talking To Ari about it I was like Dude this is the first Thing you should do Figure out a way To get rid of the weight

102:30Glasses As they are Like whoever Is a champion in that Keep them as a champion Let them defend the belt At what they actually weigh You gotta This weight cutting Is the most The thing that's gonna Fuck us more than anything Is just somebody Gets really badly hurt Because they had A really bad weight cut Like you know Guys have kidney failures For sure Guys have died You lose all the water Around your brain And you're taking trauma How many weight limit I mean weight classes More weight classes You need a weight class I think you need one Every 10 pounds But I think We should be a little bit

103:00Looser on like What a person weighs I think you should Make a contractual obligation To like Fight each other You find out What a person weighs He weighs His natural weight Is 175 Do you want to fight him Your natural weight Is 169 You're agreed That you can't get Any higher than 176 Are you cool with that Yeah Okay I'm cool with that That's like total You don't have to think At all about cutting weight At all And so the day before the fight Instead of almost dying You're filling yourself up With carbs And nutrients

103:30You're relaxing You're gonna have A better performance It's better for the sport It's better for the health Of the athletes It's more representation Of what a real 155 pound guy looks like Because you see those guys And they get in there And they're 180 Like Drickus Yeah That is not a 185 pound man He's fucking massive Maybe they need to Weigh in the day They're signing the contract To see where both of them are That way no shenanigans Is going on either Also but they need To hydrate you too Like dudes will fuck around With that That's true They'll still cut weight From the end

104:00So if we have a hydration thing Like say If you're gonna compete You need to be in shape In your fighting weight And then we're gonna weigh you in And we're gonna check Your water levels We're gonna check your hydration Okay this is what you actually weigh You weigh 182 pounds In your prime Ready to go Okay So this is what you guys Are contractually obligated To stay in this range So you can't get any higher Than 183 or 184 You just give them like a two pound I have to take a shit No one's gonna be saying Their real weight to begin with

104:31But they won't be able to stop them If they fucking hydrate test them Yeah they test them So if they show up You say to a guy Like look We're gonna show up We're gonna test you At the weight That you're gonna fight at So you can't get any higher than this And we're gonna make sure That you're not dehydrated So we're gonna check you To make sure that you're not Fucking around Like pretending That you're 182 pounds You're really 200 And you dehydrate yourself For the last four hours Let's find out What you really weigh What they do Like Maryland For like high school wrestling

105:00Before the season The kids have to get The electric You know Body composition Yeah And it sees what they weigh It sees where their Body fat percentage is And it says You can't go no lower than this So they basically Dictate to them They should do A little bit more They should do blood They should do blood Hydration levels They should check your urine They should I think that would cost a lot For They should just Do a system to do it Well I'm not saying I'm not school systems What school systems do is great I mean for the UFC They just need to be sure

105:31Don't let anybody fuck around Like hey you showed up at 196 You still want to take the fight Like what the fuck It's 182 What are we doing Why is it 196 The problem is the UFC Has the ability to do this No other organization Would have the ability To do this That's what I'm saying That's the problem And the UFC obviously Could do it like at the PI Like every year This is what we do Yes But no other Like regional level organizations Would be able to do it So it would be a little tougher I heard Doesn't California do some kind Like Andy Foster Do some kind of hydration testing

106:01There for athletes I think he has a limit On how much you can gain I think he has a percentage Yeah North Carolina does that too They have a limit But then you're just making sure That guys dehydrate Because guys are knuckleheads Right They're going to dehydrate Themselves anyway To have that size advantage Especially guys like McClellan Who thinks he's going to take you Out in the first round anyway And they're size bullies Yeah You should find out What you fucking really weigh And fight What you really weigh at It shouldn't be the ultimate Weight cutting championship Better for your chin Not to be dehydrated Better for everything Better for the longevity Better for the health

106:30Of your physical body That is literally Your weapon of war For sure Yes for everything Recovery Performance There'd be Better fights I like the PI That's pretty That's a good Yeah The PI can do it Look it can be done Because if it wasn't And then all of a sudden People started doing it It would be something People would call out If nobody ever cut weight And then all of a sudden Everybody started cutting weight Everybody would go What the fuck is this shit You're not 170 pounds This is a lie Right How are you the 170 pound champion When you weigh 200 pounds

107:00That's crazy My wife hates that She's That's her biggest peeve With MMA Is weight cutting She's like That's not even fair You know Well it is fair Because you're both doing it But it's not right Yeah It's stupid It's stupid It's bad for everybody 155 was brutal for me to make And 165 That would have been great for me That's what I'm saying Yeah 170 I was small for 170 So all you need is 10 pounds Every 10 pounds We go 170 Goes to 175 85 95 205 Maybe 225

107:30That's what I say And then it's super heavy Big as the fucking guy is That's right Because I don't like this 265 bullshit Yeah I agree I agree When was the last time you weighed 265 I mean Actually right now But when you're The biggest Well you were How big were you? 305 Damn Damn So you would have to lose A fuck load of weight You'd have to lose 40 fucking pounds That's crazy Yeah no that shouldn't happen That's crazy That's so hard to do Like when you got a guy Like Ngannou That has a natural 265

108:01Which is nuts Like he falls right there Like right in the hot zone Like a natural shredded 265 But that's what he really weighs Yeah I mean That's his actual And it's obvious You can see it He's not cutting weight Right That's his actual weight Right What's the weight? Do they have the same shit In Bellator or PFL? Yeah I think they I don't think they have A super heavyweight I don't think anybody Has an active super heavyweight division In MMA That I'm aware of No big organization I don't think PFL has it

108:30Japan really was the only place To put on the crazy Freak shows They were loving the steroids No Let a 180 pound guy Fight a gorilla Right Give a fuck They had Gabby Garcia Fight housewives Yeah I know Not a lot Get in there lady Ganky Sudo Took on all kinds of giants Didn't he take on Butterbean? Yeah Ganky Sudo Took on Butterbean And beat him And beat him Yeah he leg locked Bro Butterbean could crack Yeah Yeah yeah Remember that time We had a boxing match

109:00Against some football player Somebody let some poor football player Have a boxing match With Butterbean It might have been A celebrity boxing match And Butterbean Knocked him into another dimension He was a tough man Bro he could punch He was What do they used to call him The king of the four rounders Yeah Yeah Because he's so big He ain't going to distance 450 fucking pounds He could barbecue all day All his fights would be four rounds So he could go out there And windmill What a goddamn nightmare That guy was You couldn't hit anything on him He was like Five Two He was doing horribly

109:30For a while He had 150 sweaters on You're not going to hurt him Like 150 sweaters And that other guy Looks natural I like that There's gotta be Japan Who is that Other guy Yeah Who's he fighting there I mean he's like Kicking this guy Royster Oh so this is a Kickboxing match Which is nuts You know When I was at my heaviest I kind of looked like Is this a football player That he's fighting I have no idea I just typed that in That's just Oh well it might have been It might be a football player

110:00Who trained MMA Yeah it didn't Marcus Royster I could look Oh nice knee to the body He's big He's big enough See if you can find There was a boxing match That he had against Some football player dude Dude poor Butterbean That guy was Couldn't walk Couldn't anything Celebrity boxing But now he's fucked up Oh celebrity boxing That's probably it Yeah He's messed up Diamond Dallas Page Really did another Rehab on him He brought him back Really Shout out to DDP Such a positive guy

110:30Yeah Like put him up in the house Feeding him all that He does it He's feeding Butterbean He's such a good person You should Like it's something Like he really brought him back Butterbean couldn't even walk Butterbean vs Big Royd Fighter That's the dude That's what we just watched First Big Royd Fighter That's what it says This poor dude This poor dude This poor dude got shot Into another dimension Oh he looks like He looks like he's getting shot Deserves it for that fucking stash This is one of them guys That you know Somebody should have told him Like This is a bad idea

111:01Eventually this Fucking crazy looking dude Is gonna catch you With one of these meat bombs He's gonna hit you Right in your porn stash Right There's a thing about winning With a porn stash You know But you get KO'd With a porn stash on People They don't feel sympathetic to you They should You stupid ass With that mustache See if you can find out Where this ends Yeah Butterbean Right Ooh Come on this is a highlight Whoever they This is a clickbait on us

111:30Go into round three Oh so does it Does he Stop him here Maybe it's a different guy Is this the one that goes the distance This might be the wrong one This guy played football The guy that I saw him Oh Oh Oh Oh there it is Oh man That was pretty good Yeah Fast hands He can punch dude He can punch It was just crazy to watch a guy Who was only willing to fight four rounds King of the four rounders It was awesome He's used to that tough man I thought when I was 18 There's a place for everything Right Like the bare knuckle thing

112:01Like we were talking about Mike Perry Before we started doing this That's the perfect spot for that dude He should have told Jake Paul Listen We need to fight But let's do bare knuckle Pussy Yeah Let's go Or I'll do this You do that It's a different thing man It's a different thing with that guy Well it's like Matt always says Play to your strengths Yeah But you know You gotta take that payday I mean what did he make out of that fight He probably made 10 million bucks Yeah And Jake Paul's very smart Smart man Like he gets guys that he's He's bigger than Bigger than Younger than The only time he fought

112:30Another boxer his size Was Tom Fury And he lost Tom Fury Good fight Tommy Fury Very good fight Very good fight You know I think He's like any other young Up and coming boxer It's just everybody dismisses him Because he's a YouTuber For sure It's easy to dismiss him But I was there when he knocked out Tyron And I was like Man I'm done with this kid I never wanted to corner another fight in my life Man I was like Yo He just knocked my boy flat out on his face Man I was heartbroken

113:00Bro he has power He has real power And that's why Like everyone's talking about this Mike Tyson thing I was like Man they should not be letting this thing happen I really hope he doesn't knock Mike Tyson out To me I'll just be real bummed out to see Mike get KO'd At 58 years old Like what other sport are we Where we let a 58 year old man compete Other than golf Right You know what I'm saying Like why are we letting this happen It's kind of crazy But he's made for it man Like he's made for it Mike is Yeah I mean Listen I'm Dude he's perfectly capable of knocking him out He is perfectly capable

113:30If he zigs when he should have zagged If Mike can close the distance in a way that he doesn't expect And Mike also has layers upon layers of attacks That are in his mind He's forgotten more about boxing That's what I'm saying Than Jake Paul has ever remembered It's just how quickly can it happen Because how much gas is a guy like that going to have Also How does he feel now He might have been excited when he said he wanted to do it But how does he feel now You got months and months and months of this I just want to see something other than his mitts

114:01Does he dismiss Does he wish he didn't say yes to it How's his health How's his back How's his knees He seems to be having fun when he's promoting it Yeah He seems to be into it It's probably on mushrooms bro And it's also risk first reward Like if he loses He's also almost 60 If he wins Fuck man That's another great Imagine he knocks him out It's like yo He's a monster Look at the end of the day Mike Tyson's a monster And if he can get that monster To just move in And close the distance

114:30And if he uncorks a boom boom On Jake Paul And watch Jake Paul go into Queer Street That will be wild To watch a 58 year old Mike Tyson That would be best case scenario for the world I agree For sure For sure Best case scenario Yeah Someone gets hurt Yeah best case scenario for the world Is that he knocks Jake Paul out Yeah best case scenario Is Jake Paul realizes immediately He's in there with Mike Tyson That Mike Tyson At least for a round or two First time he gets cracked It's gonna I guarantee you His head's gonna be like Oh shit It's gonna be interesting

115:00To see what happens How many rounds is it? I think it's eight Eight two minute rounds That are two minutes? Yeah I think they're doing two minute rounds And I think they have Do they have ten ounce gloves Or twelve ounce gloves It's not better than two minute rounds Yeah I think they're making them have Slightly bigger gloves Fourteen ounces Fourteen ounces That's so Sparring gloves Yeah And it's not sanctioned right? It can't be sanctioned It's sanctioned It's sanctioned? It is sanctioned How do you sanction that? Texas Yeehaw Same place you can own a giraffe That's funny My wife was driving home one day

115:30She saw a zebra Same place has more tigers She goes There's a zebra loose I go Welcome to Texas baby A zebra? Yeah you can have a zebra here Some dude's zebra got out They got a few tigers here right? Zebra You can't smoke a joint There's more tigers in captivity in Texas In private collections Than in all of the wild of earth How is that true? Yes That's true You don't hear about tigers getting loose In people's yards Because they fence them in bro That's it? So how big are these tigers?

116:00They're tiger tigers Real tigers Real tigers There's thousands of tigers In private collections in Texas Really? Bro this is a crazy place It's a crazy place Oh It's so tight with the weed Yeah But you can't smoke weed here They gotta bail on that They're also tight with fentanyl tests Which is even crazier Escape tiger that had Texas communities on edge Finally caught Oh yeah that was around Houston Bengal tiger was on loose for nearly a week Jesus What was it eating?

116:31That's Houston So you got all that oil money down there in Houston And that's where dudes have their own tigers That's what I like about New York You just gotta worry about some raccoons and shit Yeah There's a guy in New York That had a fucking tiger in his house in Harlem What? Yeah there's a photograph A famous photograph of these cops See if you can find that photo Jamie The cops are looking through the Right there Looking through the window Holy shit This guy had a tiger Holy shit In his fucking apartment Oh my god Look at that Look at that thing Bro How insane is that photo? Was the guy in there or was he eaten?

117:01I don't think the guy got killed I think they just found out the guy had a tiger in there And they had to go in and dart him And then they had to drag him out of there And take him to the zoo Crazy Yeah the dude had a 450 pound cat in his fucking apartment Like how do you clean up after that? Not well You get a big litter box First of all that thing's gonna piss everywhere I know They marked their territory by pissing on things Think of the smell That would have to Ugh Bro Can't even That guy was just tigered out He was all in Regular cat yearns bad enough

117:30I know Imagine a tiger Tiger's just pissing on your walls What are you gonna do? Tell it don't do that? Stop that You hit it with a fucking newspaper Eat your arm What happened to the Tiger King? Is he in jail still that day? Still in jail I had the people who did the documentary on yesterday That thing was crazy though That kid killing himself by accident Crazy And first of all I mean First of all You don't find more white trash than that But fucking You know what's chimp crazy? Chimp crazy They take it to the next level Oh yeah I'm not watching that I am gonna watch that

118:00Bro it's nuts It's nuts It's fucking nutty man Whew The people's desire to have these things that could kill them It's so strange I'll just watch the new Planet of the Apes movie That king came out Is that supposed to be good? Those aren't bad though From what I've seen Those aren't bad How's that Alien movie? Did you see that? The new one? No I heard it's good Really? Yeah I heard it's real good I heard it's scary as fuck I heard it goes back to the first Alien Where they're hard to find It's scary After a while They were everywhere

118:30And you just shoot them Right The first one You couldn't even find that fucker They fucked up He was sneaking around Couldn't kill him It was different Acid blood Yeah he was so scary Aliens was phenomenal Aliens was such a great sequel to Alien Because it was a different take on it And then the Space Marines And fucking Newton Fucking Hicks Hicks was great Hudson Was good Hudson was fucking great Bill Paxson Hell yeah Game over man Good movie Game over But it was a totally different kind of movie Oh yeah So you got

119:00Ridley Scott does the first Alien Suspensable And you got this suspenseful Yeah Terrifying thing And people start coming up missing And you know It's fucking hiding in the ceiling You're thinking Tom Everett's gonna be the hero Right And then all of a sudden he gets taken out You're like wait Wait what What Oh it's gonna be Sigourney She's the hero She was the first male or female lead Of a monster movie Action movie Where you didn't go Oh they're pushing a woman on me Oh she's

119:30Right You believed it Yes You believed that this lady scientist Got stuck in this fucking spaceship With a demon Oh this is great Oh that movie's so good Aliens It is so great Aliens is good but alien is better No Because it's hard to kill Blashery In aliens they're shooting them left and right They're all over the place In the people in aliens Alien 1 would have been done in 5 minutes Like oh there it is Yeah You know But in this one they kill so many of them Until they get to the mother And then when the mother doesn't kill her

120:00When she's wearing the robot suit I'm like shut the fuck up bitch Shut the fuck up But I like when she's like get away from her You bitch But do you think in the first one In the first one you really didn't know what was going on And then the second one they were prepared For what they were coming up against The thing is there's too much exposed I don't buy it If she's in a robot thing where she's completely encased Okay But she's just all out there Yeah why Tissue Exposed I agree Get away from her you bitch This is a giant alien Right How is that thing not gonna fuck It moves way quicker than people How is that not gonna fuck you up instantaneously

120:32With your stupid ass slow robot There's so many moments in that though That movie When they're like When they barricade themselves In the one room And they're like They have the monitor And they're like They're through the wall That's inside the room It can't be inside the room All of a sudden they look up And you see Hicks He pushes up the tile And you see them all crawling In the fire That was fucking money Fucking money What a great movie It's a great movie

121:00It's just a different kind of movie I was hoping they would have got more into Like the engineers Like when they did Prometheus Yeah That they would have got into those people But they really It wasn't much of the movie Prometheus was good But the one after Prometheus was better What was that one Jamie What was the last one With Kenny McBride in it right Yes Cause it ended fucked up Covenant Yeah Hey wasn't Jussie Smoulet in that one too He was He was in that one No kidding

121:30This is a good one This one's good Please tell me This was girly Cause this is another No man he's in there He's in the spaceship He's working the controls This is Oh yeah This is a real good one This one's fucking good This is This one's really good And again The aliens in this one They're hard to get a hold of Is that Michael Fassbender? Yeah Yes Yes So these are the things That gets in your ear Little spores Get inside you from that egg It's a good one man This is a really good one Yeah I did And when these dudes start shaking

122:00When it gets them Mmm It's fucking great That's a good one Yeah But I heard the new one Is really good too I think the new one's Ridley Scott too as well right And he's doing a new Is he doing the new Gladiator? Ridley Scott? Did he do the new Gladiator? I don't know I mean I know Oh yeah I can't wait I know it's coming out Yeah I'm on the fence with that The new Gladiator what? I'm on the fence with it Why? I don't know man How can you be on the fence with it? I don't know I mean What he called Looks like he's like I don't know Is he talking like New York slang?

122:30Denzel in the fucking thing? No man Oh did people Said something about his accent right? What is the accent That people have an issue with? That's what I think Can we hear Denzel? Let's hear his accent Let's hear what he's Where were you born? I don't know I never knew a mother nor a father You will be my instrument You are you Denzel Sound like a regular dude Yeah But they want him to have a British accent They always want people When they're speaking another language That's translated English They always want them to have a British accent

123:00It doesn't matter It doesn't matter where It's Rome Right Isn't that weird? Yeah Everyone talks in a different way Yeah Yeah it's weird It is kind of weird This is in India I mean you know what I'm saying No matter where it is They want them to have a British accent This is in Rome This is in Italy Why do they talk like this? But there's something about like Hearing regular modern English Yeah In an old timey movie Like no No Like you don't buy it now Yeah you need an accent Like Tyrion Lannister Yeah All the people in Game of Thrones

123:30They all had an English accent Did they speak Latin With an Italian accent back then Or did they That's a good question I don't think they spoke Latin I don't think these people Were speaking Latin Were they? In Rome Yeah They may have been Were they speaking Italian Or were they speaking Latin They would have been speaking Latin Okay but here's the question The reason why I ask this When Martin Luther Was translating the Bible In the 1500s Or the 1400s Whenever that was That the reason why The Bible was The priests would be the only one That could tell you the word of God

124:00Because they're the only one That could read Latin So no one spoke Latin No one read Latin They couldn't read it So these people didn't know What was in the Bible Until Martin Luther He translated it into phonetic languages Translated it I think German And a couple other languages It got eventually translated to So then people could read the Bible For themselves Whereas before It was just Latin So when did Latin die off When did they stop using Latin Hmm Because Latin's a weird one Like you learn it in school But you're never going to fucking use it I didn't learn it in school

124:30They spoke Latin and Greek Like when did Latin go Isn't it crazy So the Roman Empire They spoke a language that's dead It's a dead language Which is bananas Gone now Gone 476 That's probably People stopped speaking it But priests probably still knew Because of all everything Right So there it is After the fall of Rome In 476 AD Latin began to die out And distinct local Latin dialects developed Wow So these dialects Eventually evolved To modern romance languages Like Italian and Spanish Which is crazy That means those languages

125:00Are only 500 fucking years old That's nuts But if you see a movie about it It was English With an English accent Right Of course But isn't it crazy That those languages Like Italian Is only like 500 years old Who the fuck would have guessed that And there's a lot of similarities Between Spanish and Italian Oh yeah They all Well Texas is way bigger Than all those places You know Which is nuts Like Europe When you look at America It's basically like Europe Right But we don't call it Different countries Right

125:30But Kentucky is so much Different than Los Angeles You know It'd be 1500 years old Not 500 Oh that's right Duh 20 Yeah And none of us caught that either How did I not catch it You're just seeing it You're seeing it Saying it Okay So I'm sorry 1500 years Still Language is developing that You would think they're older than that Did you guys ever watch And I watched it more than once I watched it like at least a few times The series Rome Yeah I have the box set Did you ever see that I haven't seen it Oh I didn't watch that I think it's only two seasons

126:01But it's really good You know what it is They crammed it into two seasons They said the budget was high The budget was super high at the time And it is a fucking great series It is It is very good Puglio Oh they're badass Oh my god What a great show It's supposedly That guy's real Such a great show No shit Watch this Watch it It holds up I never heard anything about it You should watch this This is where Is his name Ray Stevenson I highly recommend it He played the Punisher too And all the actors Ray Stevenson's He was Puglio in this That's what put him on

126:30And the other guy Lucius is phenomenal I want to say that Lucius Was Titus Puglio Maybe they based that on a real guy Oh listen It is It is so great And Even if you go on to YouTube And watch Lucius And Titus Just being badass Or Titus Puglio Being badass It's just Oh my god It's just so It was a good series Such a great series No shit I never heard anything about it That's amazing Good I need something new to watch I just finished the Peaky Blinders

127:00Yeah you go through this This is only two seasons And again I revisit it a lot Have you been to Rome? No no Me and my wife She's waiting for my stomach To get better I go like We might as well just fucking go And put a cork up my ass Cause I'm not gonna Just go Just go while you can But I heard you can eat the food over there And it's not as bad for you Not nearly Well we've got some weird shit Going on with our food That's for sure You can eat pasta over there You feel normal No I definitely need to go You feel fine We're gonna go They don't have poison in their foods Over there It's nice families over there

127:30We you know Fruit Loops in America Are different than Fruit Loops In fucking Canada Cause we We allow all the dirty dyes We allow all those funky dyes That are horrible for you And European countries They're like No that shit's poison And we're like Give it to the kids Right Give the babies Give the babies the poison Loaded with sugar I plan again Loaded with sugar But we never know When we were kids Nobody ever told you Sugar just all it did Was rot your teeth No big deal Right That's what it felt like

128:01Yeah You didn't think it was gonna kill you I grew up on that shit All of it We all do I just take Frosted Frakes And put sugar on top of it Yeah On it Remember those days I do You get down the bottom And I'm milk Gritty with sugar And if I ain't had no milk I had Kool-Aid in there To add to my sugar Water in it I remember Remember Travis Luter Yeah Some guys are like Too smart For their own good I remember I'm eating raisins in there And he's eating fucking Kit Kats Oh yeah

128:30He's eating sugar Sugar I go I don't think it works like that I'm far from a fucking A nutritionist But I don't think You know I don't like these fucking raisins There is something to be said For drinking things That have a high sugar content After hard training After That's fact And you know who used to do that Floyd Mayweather Floyd Mayweather used to be Having these crazy workouts And he would crack open a Pepsi And people were like What the fuck is he doing Like he's crazy But no he's not He's smart As hard as that guy worked out

129:00Replenishes your muscle glycogen Right away You're getting that muscle glycogen In a crazy way That you're really not going to get Any other way Like I don't recommend Drinking soda I like it It's fun I like to drink a soda Every now and then A real one But he used to drink it After training Well that's what like Paul Felder does Like after like a long bike ride Yeah He would talk about like Drinking a soda Yeah the best times to do it Are like they say Either when you As you wake up Just because you're fasted Or after a big workout They're the safest times Yeah I mean he's there Drinking a coke And you would think like

129:30There's no way this guy He treats his body like a temple But he does He's smart That guy did it the right way Never drank Yeah Never partied Never was out of shape Never got fat Would run home from the club At two o'clock in the morning At two o'clock in the morning In his jeans Yeah just Just fucking getting in work Never out of shape Yeah He got to see All the mistakes Yeah And he's like I'm not making any of these Yeah he was built different too Like he's Smarter Yeah smarter than everybody And also figured out I can't knock everybody out

130:00But I can get everybody To want me to get knocked out And so people come to see me Get knocked out And I beat everybody That's right Yup Right I mean he's definitely The greatest defensive fighter Of all time If boxing is hit And doesn't And don't get hit Who's better than Floyd Zero people How many people cracked him In his career Yeah Like Sugar Shane Right Shane cracked him I mean Chop Chop With DeMarcus Corley Cracked him Cracked him once And then Conor McGregor The homeboy from Argentina

130:30Homeboy from Argentina Uh Um Maidana Maidana Maidana Maidana Maidana The first Maidana fight Was pretty Maidana Maidana knocked his tooth out And then would carry it around On a necklace Maidana has Floyd Mayweather's tooth Does he really? Show it Jamie Maidana has Floyd Mayweather's tooth Like on a gold necklace A lot of people thought Maidana won the first one But think about that Like if He definitely cracked him At the end of that round And wobbled him And then it was right at the bell And so then

131:00Floyd got back on his bike And started out boxing him But Maidana See there it is There's his tooth See there it is He's got it knocked out And he keeps it around his neck He keeps it around his fucking neck Think about how good defensively You have to be That we can count How many times You've been cracked Amazing Yeah Amazing But also could recover Yeah Floyd could recover He just had a lot of hand injuries How did he find his tooth In that motherfucker So he's like Probably telling his corner guy Get that motherfucker I want a necklace You can see it in the fight It flies out of his mouth

131:30And one of the corner men Saw it and grabbed it Damn Yeah That's great Great That's hilarious That is funny Like we need that That's a souvenir That second fight Floyd got the ring bigger And he just destroyed him In the second one Because he had more room to run The first one Maidana kept getting him on the ropes Getting him on the ropes And beating him up Well if you're going to have A rematch with a master technician He's going to figure out All your little Yeah He's the shot caller So did you see How big the ring is And everything Superlek In 1FC

132:01I didn't see that No What is that Dude Superlek is this Badass Muay Thai fighter And he fought Jonathan Haggerty Who was the champion Was that when he hit him With the elbow Yeah Yeah I heard about that But I saw an interesting breakdown Here it is So Haggerty Look at this He caught him with that overtop elbow Like real quick in the fight I think it was like 40 seconds Oh Beautiful KO So they had a real good fight In the first fight It was six years ago

132:30And Haggerty became the champion And everybody thought You know Like this is going to be A much different fight But what I saw That was interesting Was someone broke down There was a video breakdown Of his tells That Haggerty has a certain Hop Hop And then he goes in And then Superlek had timed it And he tried it earlier In the round And didn't catch it And in this one Look at this Perfect timing Gets his head off the center line Right on the temple Oh my god Perfect elbow This is the thing That I love That 1FC is doing

133:00I don't love what they did To Mikey Moose Imagine But what I love What they're doing Is they're having World class Muay Thai fighters And they're putting them In these giant cards Where like Tens of thousands of people To see them It's on Amazon So millions of people Are going to see it Around the world On Amazon And it's on the internet So all these people Are going to be able To see it on YouTube And it's exposing people To these guys That are just like Super high level strikers That you're not going To hear about 200 fights Like Raw Tang Who would have heard Of Raw Tang If it wasn't for one

133:30For sure For sure Right now everybody Knows who he is Yeah That fucking elbow Reminded me It just brought me back To Weidman Versus Mark Munez That's the fucking elbow Exactly That's the fucking elbow Exactly And that fight I think Would inspire Chris Padilla To use the elbow Against Ron Zhu Over the weekend Really Yeah and busted his eye Wide open And they stopped the fight Because of that That's interesting Watch this elbow This one's incredible This is Prime Oh my goodness The timing on that Dude Prime Weidman

134:00Was a motherfucker Dude He was a motherfucker Look at this elbow Longos half man Oh my god Phenomenal So clean Phenomenal Ready Bang Weidman The timing Good one Yeah Chris He's fighting Anders soon Eric Anders Yeah Eric Anders When is that When is that That's uh Madison Square Garden November 16th Ooh that's a crazy fight Yeah I don't see Chris is in South Carolina now We don't see him so much South Carolina Chris Now we go Is he training with Wonderboy

134:30Who's he training with down there Does he live down there He's got like his own people With like Brian Barbarina He's got a bunch of nice guys With him They got a decent little squad Down there From what I hear Well he was throwing kicks In the last fight Yeah He was throwing hard kicks With that right leg I can't watch it It's crazy I can't watch it But it seemed like He was trying to prove a point Like I'm gonna Fucking control these things Yeah He's such a beast Chris Boydman That last fight was a bummer Though the eye poke thing Was a real bummer It kind of made it Yeah It took away from it A little bit How you wanted it

135:00Yeah It was a bummer I feel like I keep saying it But I feel like They should cover those fingertips There's no reason why They're exposed Doesn't make any sense Do it like a bad glove Cover it like a bad glove I mean I just don't understand Why Like how they thought This was gonna solve the problem They were like New gloves And our guys are still Getting poked in the eye Yeah It's still the same setup Yeah You know If you really want Like I feel like If you're gonna have The fingerless ones Trevor Whitman's Are the best They're the best They curve down They curve hard Yeah But your hands

135:30Stay in this position Like you have to Struggle to do this Right Your hand naturally Goes in this position The UFC gloves Are still like this Yeah Like how did they think That was gonna be the answer You gotta cover the fingers There's no reason To not cover the fingers Like a bad glove Just have a piece of leather That goes over the fingertips So you have one thing It's not gonna invade Your grappling It's not gonna change Your striking It's not gonna change anything Put like a piece of elastic In there Yeah Just keep it closed And this way You at least If you get poked in the eye You're getting a blunt Thing like this

136:00You're not getting something That goes into your eyeball Yeah Right So have them all Covered With something like And have like a ridge Over the top of it Like a soft foam ridge So even if you're getting Poked in the eyes You're not Definitely better than a finger Yeah you're not getting An individual thing Going deep into your eyeball With a fingernail Which is what people get right now You get fucking fingernails Dirty ass fingernail In your eyeball Even if you trim your nails Like my nails are trimmed I wouldn't want that In my asshole Oh let me look at me today Imagine if that's in your asshole Yeah Scratching around

136:30Inside your asshole Right When your eyeball Is just soft tissue man Yeah that's worse Than little ant man That's what I'm saying My head went straight there Of course Scarred That's where I was going with it It's like soft tissue In your eyeballs Is the scariest soft tissue Where we're allowing Fingernails to go in there For no reason You could fix that You really could fix that By just covering The tips of the fingertips I think you should just use Trevor Whitman's glove Trevor Whitman's glove Is the best I do too You're always going to have thumbs You know You remember Roberto Durant

137:00And Davey Moore Yeah Yeah He thumbed him right in the eyeball Right Din Thomas Do you want them to use Trevor Whitman gloves Because you feel bad About taking his fucking job What listen I can't help you No He left the job So he could work on them gloves So you might as well Give him the love for that Trevor Whitman has the best gloves Yeah He has the best training gloves He has the best bag gloves All his equipment Is top Top He's just He uses the best materials Like the foam he uses Is very different

137:30It's like Super high tech Density foam It feels better When you're hitting things I think it would protect people From hand injuries better Yeah So they should talk to him They did He apparently Wanted some crazy amount of money That the UFC wasn't willing Trevor Trevor That's The UFC's perspective I don't know what Trevor I love Trevor But I'm a big fan of his stuff If it was up to me I would figure out a way To make that work Yeah for sure But you know Apparently he wanted Something crazy Something crazy Yeah They're like Not only that

138:00Din Thomas has your Fucking other job now So that's why Din you do a good job With that Yeah you do Thank you very much Nobody dresses better Yeah listen How do you plan that out I got to man Because like I'm working with y'all You know what I'm saying That's Joe Rogan DC I gotta have my own thing You know what I'm saying But you do have a flair You got your own Din Thomas flair Yeah I gotta show up somehow Yeah You have to Always show up Din Thomas Hey there's some good fights On this card this weekend You know Oh I know Bob Mondes is a bad motherfucker

138:30He is a bad motherfucker That's a bad motherfucker That's an interesting fight On the undercard Let's see He's fighting Manuel Torres Who's also good Yeah That's a good fight man That's a real good fight That's one of them Under the radar fights They put people in here To like the throw Most of this card Is people like the throw Who did Manuel Torres Fight his last fight He beat the hell out Of somebody last time He did Baja Mondes Throw some wild shit Oh yeah Chris Duncan Yeah he busted Chris Duncan Yeah Yeah

139:00Yeah This is a That's gonna be an interesting fight But for me Scroll all the way up To the top Jamie No no no The end of the card He's on the I'm very very interested In the rematch Of Alexa Grasso And Valentina Yes me too I felt like Valentina did enough To get the nod In the second fight I did too I felt like she And some judge Gave the last round To Alexa Grasso 10-8 Yeah two points Which I thought Was kind of Well you know why right Yeah she had her

139:30Because he had her In the choke Yeah And like he was just Kind of biased From the first choke Right So he thought That was close enough It was kind of close But it wasn't You know I mean It means something If you're gonna do that You should do that All the time Right Anytime someone gets you In a choke And you defend That's a 10-9 already You already got a 10-9 Anything more than that Now it's 10-8 You know like Like boxing With knockdowns Right The scoring is too subjective 10-8 round Is more like When Al Jermaine Had Jan On his back The entire round Right Threatening You know what I'm saying

140:00Smashing him Getting it at the end Of the round Doesn't earn you two points Right A 10-8 is a dominant round Like you dominated The whole round And I don't even Did they give Al Jermaine Two points Like I don't even think He got 10-8 for that All I know Is poor Aljo Didn't get the respect He deserves After that Calvin Cato fight Which was a Fucking beautiful Masterpiece Masterpiece It was a great fight I think Aljo Is just a 45er Who was a bad Motherfucker At 35 But I think We're going to see The real Aljo At 45 I think so too I think he's going To beat old boy

140:30In a couple weeks too He's so big man I was always like How the I saw him in between Fights once He's going to beat Moffstar In a couple weeks Interesting fight High level grappling Yeah Interesting Very high level Get your back When he got Sanhagen's back Bro That was the quickness Hell yeah That rear naked choke Of his is about As good as it gets In MMA right now These top three fights Are all bangers But Diego Lopez And Ortega Is going to be crazy That's going to be Fucking crazy How do you think Ortega Like what happened To Ortega last time Where he pulled out Like something was up With him Supposedly He got an Aronial Or something Yeah he got

141:01Something real bad Oh okay Yeah he got real Real sick I thought He got real sick Yeah cause they made That fight Like I said It was a three week Notice fight He didn't look good The day of the weigh ins You know I do the Interviews with fighters I did an interview with him And he was like He just looked tired I think he just I mean he didn't make weight That fight either Remember He missed weight It was a medical withdrawal So he missed a weight And then on top of that Like they changed the weight class Then on top of that He never makes it to the fight He was sick It's going to be a wild fight

141:30And Diego Lopez Is a fucking assassin Zell Huber is an assassin too I was getting ready Yeah so that's going to be Another banger He's good yeah Who do you like Who do you like on that one I heard old Cejudo Talking about Ribovic Apparently trains at his gym And obviously Ribovic is good He's good He's very good This is a very fun fight Very fun fight There's a lot of like Under the radar fights On this card I think it's going to live up to it I mean they got a lot of hype On this fear And like the names May not be there But all these guys are bangers

142:01Here's the question Do they You know how they show Like on the big screens You get to see the fights If you're in the stands Like so you can see things That maybe you don't see Are they going to have it On the whole ceiling I don't think You looking up And seeing shit You know I think they should So I've been I was at the Apex All week last week And like it's so secretive Like everybody's like I think they should have the fight On the whole ceiling And then everybody would not know Where to fuck to live Yeah They'd be getting knockouts And people wouldn't even be looking at them And be like Yeah Because if

142:30It's way cooler If it's only going to do it once Have the shit on the ceiling Is there going to be two production trucks Like people at home Aren't going to be seeing the whole visual Because you know It's produced for That's a very good point Well apparently they got Apparently they got like Two They hired another director Wow Yeah so it's like A sphere director Yeah like it's just been like Crazy If they're smart Which they are They should make some kind of documentary Or something about the making of this shit Oh they probably are You know what I mean And so people get to Try to see what was going on

143:00Inside of there That weren't able to get tickets I think there's six mini movies That play about the history Of combat sports in Mexico They said that They said something like that Yeah That's crazy Crazy They spent 20 million dollars On this fucking place Yeah I've heard It's nuts I think what the original budget was 10 Wow And they just went over So Sean O'Malley and Merab Is a perfect fight for it Oh yeah I know that Neither one of them is Mexican But let that go for a little bit Well Mexico No no Mexico They adopted Merab It's true He fights like a Mexican

143:31He fights like a Mexican He really does God damn That guy's gas tank Is terrifying He's terrifying Because that's a guy That if you empty out Early on Merab You got real Yeah He's got a chin on him He survives Apparently so He fucking The Marlon fight Was nuts man Yeah And it was funny about that The second half of the round He got dropped in He beat him to death Beat him to death I know He almost stopped him in that round That's why the second round Happened how it did He just beat

144:00He took it out of him In the first round Yeah but Rob is an animal But Marais was like A front runner Like no other No you're right The first round With Henry Cejudo I thought Henry Cejudo Was going to sleep Yeah right Dude when Marlon was in his prime When he knocked out Aljo With that switch kick Yeah that was crazy Bro he was terrifying People forgot how good Marlon was He was good But he was just too big For the weight class too He was another guy There's no way that was healthy Right He was so big for 35 And just shredded

144:31Explosive man Just slick He had that Mickey Mouse voice To go with it The little fire plug With that little voice What Marlon had That was so tricky Was that left high kick Off the front leg He caught a lot of people He did it so slick It was so fast Yeah He was explosive He was accurate He was well rounded But he did the gas tank I think maybe from making the weight Or whatever It had to do with There was some psychological aspects To it too I think There was like something When he was the nail It wasn't his You know he just

145:00Didn't stand up He wasn't like Marab Like Marab finds There's a Georgia memory in there Of some fucking street fight With a goat He's got Randy's neck He's got him swinging You know There's some fucking There's some deep memory Of some fucking chaotic thing On a mountain that happened That's in his brain forever You know You got Sean O'Malley Street fight with a goat Sean O'Malley says He has no losses He points out that Cheeto Vera thing That it's a fluke If you look at Marab's record

145:31That fight with Frankie Sighs Was a fucking I don't say it often It's a fucking robbery If you watch that And he was just getting over Fucking What'd he have Not pneumonia He had lingering effects Of something And he still went through That fight I don't give a fuck Watch that fight He won that fight And then the other one With Simone Ricky Simone It was controversial Because he was in the choke And that round ended And then he was like Half in half out And they're like Oh he's out And then so it was a weird

146:00Let's see the I haven't seen that Let me see that Ricky Simone Marab I forgot about that fight He's shaking to the end of it And then when it's end of it It's like out But in and out So it's like It was a weird But he made it to the belt Well that's Yan Xiaonan Against Zhang Wei Li Remember At the end of the round She was out cold Oh yeah She got choked unconscious And then they woke her up And she's like Okay Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Matt Sat down and throwing ice on her Water Yeah Matt Hughes and Carlos She woke up Matt Hughes and Carlos But he won Because he was the first guy to wake up

146:30Yeah So here it is Ricky Simone Gets him in a guillotine And there's the very end Oh my god That's so nasty Look how nasty that is It's on too That's so tight That's so tight He's out He's out right there He's out The arm's hanging But he doesn't stop it The left doesn't stop it He's still shaking Okay So he's hanging in there He's hanging in there But where's the second slip He's not tapping God damn That guy's got willpower For real Look at him He's not tapping He's not defending

147:01With his arms either This is crazy He's not even defending With his arms He's just using his neck He's giving the thumbs up Yeah 10 seconds He's still moving his legs I mean that's The horn But now he's like He's breathing Yeah what the fuck They stopped the fight

147:30No no no no You can't say he's out there That's what I'm saying You can't say he's out Rest in peace Dr. Sherry Right That was the team doc Dr. Walken Yeah that's kind of crazy That's fucked up So they stopped the fight After the fight was over Yeah After the round was over They decided he was out Yeah so I mean So look You could look at his record And say he undefeated But he protested immediately He was just laying there With his eyes open And it looked like he was out Because he was fucking exhausted Yeah like he could be like Alright yeah That's like a sign of relief Look there's no way

148:00He would have known If the guy says it's over And he immediately protests There's no way He could have known To protest If he wasn't awake And who was the ref I don't even recognize him They fucked him in this So it's like You could look at his record And be like Yo this guy hasn't lost the fight Yeah there's some You know refs are human They make mistakes That's a rough one though So it's like It's a bad one And if you look at the fight Before that That's the robbery Of Frankie Saiz So you could literally Look at this guy And say he never lost I mean if you want to really Well I think all these Moments of adversity Just strengthened his resolve Anyway Oh yeah

148:30Because the guy's a monster now The Henry Cejudo fight Was so crazy When he was carrying Henry Cejudo Yeah Like a little kid With his tongue hanging out I was like this is mad It was kind of embarrassing I felt bad for Henry But he's doing it To Henry Cejudo He wasn't just doing it To some guy Who didn't belong In the cage with him He's doing it To a two division world champion Who's Olympic gold medalist In wrestling And he's carrying around Like a pillow And he walks over To Mark Zuckerberg Yes Mark Zuckerberg And then he's talking shit While he's choking him Talking shit While he's beating the fuck out of him

149:00He was having a great old time When he had him in that Ten finger guillotine Yeah man Bro that's a nasty spot That's a nasty I thought he was going to get him There with that I'm like that's a nasty choke Yeah I think he's going to have his night I think the craziest moment like that though Was when Hamzat picked up the leech And he walked him over there Give me title shot I killed him all He's like carrying him Yeah Yeah Just carrying him over to Dana And he starts fucking him up Right in front of Dana That dude's wild

149:30Poor leech though Like leech can't I mean they just feed him To everybody Who did he just fight Who did he just fight Leech Carlos Protes And Carlos Protes Put them hands That guy's good Smoking cigarettes in the locker room Fucking everybody up He's dangerous That guy's That striking was beautiful Yeah He's good He made that look easy man He's very very very good That guy's scary Where the fuck did he come from There's so many of those guys It's from the fighting nerds There he is right here Yeah fighting nerds man

150:00They got a great team But this guy He's just a fucking killer man Carlos just knows how to put it on you This knee to the body man Was so nasty Oh Oh See the knee to the body before that They didn't have that in that video But he had them hurt before this But he's just fucking accurate Dude he's all limbs dude Oh look at that He's got precision He's got precision Like mosquitoes I hate those daddy long legs Mosquitoes Like all legs and arms Yeah Yeah There's some good fighters coming up man These kids that are coming up They come into the cage so much better than guys just five years ago

150:34So much better Well they're getting so much help from the UFC prior Right You know like especially like if you have like the PI behind you Like a Mexico They're like sponsoring these guys There's a PI there Yeah they're sponsoring these guys Also there's so many videos to watch now Yeah That's a big factor Because like when you were coming up You had VHS tapes What the fuck are you going to watch They're productions We're talking to lines and shit Really Nobody got a chance to see anything You didn't really get Unless you saw them in your gym

151:01You didn't get a chance to see like real high level stuff And now guys they have a standard in their head That's way higher than everybody's standard from 10-15 years ago It is true Yeah no doubt about that These guys just come in so well rounded And plus they start so much younger Oh yeah That's a factor And kids You know the UFC has boosted you know wrestling in high schools and junior leagues and things So these they're just more complete like they're growing up now complete martial artists You know There's no secrets anymore I remember back in the day we'd be like it's a new move don't show anybody

151:32Yeah Still the calf kick's only a few years old That's what's Bisping said he went his whole career without kicking kicked in the calf Me too thank god Crazy I'm glad that wasn't around back then How the fuck did everybody miss that I know right Benson Henderson used to throw it He did used to throw it Weird But he never had the kind of results that these guys are having It's different Where did it come from Well it's Muay Thai Is it part of Muay Thai They've always done it It just wasn't done that often because guys check it I never noticed And if they check it and they turn out and you catch it on your foot

152:02I think they do it a lot more in Muay Thai now though Even in Muay Thai Yeah I think everybody just sees what's going on You see it in one a lot In glory you see it now a lot Guys throwing it a lot man It's so effective You know what's weird like in karate combat Like you can't throw it to the thigh Like it has to be a calf kick That's ridiculous Yeah It's weird to me I'm like what It has to be a calf kick That's really ridiculous What do you mean you can't throw it to the thigh You can't It's illegal to kick above the knee

152:31Why? In karate combat That's ridiculous That's silly What's the matter with that? That's the whole point of karate Yeah That literally makes no sense Yeah Because what about Kyokushin What about ones where they kick the legs all the time? That's karate too Not sure why You know take out some of the best karate from karate? Not sure why that's a rule But you can ground and pound for like 10 seconds or something? You ground and pound until you stop Oh Yeah you can ground and pound until you stop And then they break it up But you can't leg kick Right But you can't kick to the thigh That seems crazy Yeah That doesn't make sense What's your feeling on that side kick to the knee?

153:03Like what Khalil did to Modestus? Hate it No I don't hate it I love it I do I hate it You hate it? Yeah I think it does nothing but damage a fighter Like people say oh you can knee bar Well you can tap to a knee bar You can't tap to that kick And if the kick lands you're done Can't tap to a head kick either I mean whatever You go to sleep you go to sleep That's different to me But some head kicks are probably worse than getting knee kicked You know I mean Leon Edwards and Kamaru If you ask Kamaru would you rather take a shot to the knee

153:32Or that shot to the head He might take a shot to the knee I mean you gotta defend it If you hit on time like Khalil did I think I'd rather get kicked in my head That one was horrific It's horrible to watch but like you gotta defend it You know It's not like you can't defend it You gotta defend it You remember when Darren Till started using it on everybody He was like one of the first guys to start using it on everybody John Jones of course Yeah John Jones He's the guy with it Yeah And he's so long Yeah That's a shitty one that gets

154:00I mean you can't really You can't use that Like there's no intention Other than In sparring you can't do that No you definitely can't Can't do that in sparring You'd be taking out your paw in his knees You imagine I've had guys tell me that they were sparring with guys they didn't know and they did shit like that to them Side kicks to the knees I'm like what the fuck are we doing Now it's a real fight Now you're making a street fight In a sparring match A guy was telling me about the ATT They bring in some crazy Russians Side kicking your knees I mean not only that But they was doing like spinning wheel kicks to the head With just hitting you with the heel And I'm like yo what are you doing

154:30That's crazy Yeah That's crazy That's so hard That's so hard If you're in a high level sparring match with a guy Where it's like You're getting emotional And then you throw a spinning kick It's so hard To like slap him with the foot It's so hard to decide To use the foot You wear shin pads for a reason To protect But then you're doing a spinning kick Where there's no protection Well that's why gloves are nuts Right Because you can knee somebody in the face You can elbow in the face You can shin them in the fucking skull Right But your knuckles are covered God forbid It's kind of crazy

155:01Yeah It's kind of crazy I haven't once sparred with the new I mean they came later on Like the gloves that you could They're not quite They're not the boxing gloves The puffies The practice MMA gloves Yeah I always use the 16 ounce gloves Because I want to be able to fucking throw And I'd grapple in them But then I'd get in I'd get under the butt You obviously can't make a grip But then it's that much easier When I can make a grip So like I'd get in I'd lose it But it would help my endurance

155:31And when I'm able to make grips I'm like ah When they had the new gloves And people were fucking around with them I'm like yeah But now we gotta just Now we're playing I didn't have the luxury I'm fucking 5'6 I have to triple jab in And fight Like I can't play by just I have to throw So I couldn't throw Like realistically With those little gloves Right So when I see Sometimes there's some people sparring I had one of my girls sparring And this girl Lauren And she brought in another girl And they were doing it with those gloves I go look Next time You want me to watch this shit You're playing right now

156:00I can't I'm not gonna be telling you To fucking Do certain things And throw certain things If you could be It's playing You're playing It's okay to play I like to grapple in them But we have to fight So I mean You know Put on some bigger gloves We did the same thing Do you think that there's a time In a fighter's career Where they don't have to spar Is there ever a time Where they don't have to spar hard If they clock in enough hours Like I guess like Max Holloway Whoever else Right Possibly But even Holloway When he's getting ready for Gaethje Decided to spar You have to

156:31You have to simulate the fight As much as possible Because you don't want to feel that For the first time in there So We used to really spar The reason why I'm asking Is because like I was watching Izzy's fight With Drekus And The thing about That fight Is that It looks like at the end Izzy's very tired You know And he gets clocked Like Drekus catches him With some of those Winging punches Which he was getting away from Or in the earlier rounds And he catches him Rocks him And then he hits him With a couple more Right hands against the cage And then immediately Gets him in a choke

157:00When it goes to the ground And then Izzy taps And I always wonder Because that school of thought Of like the Mar Marinovich school of thought When BJ was in his prime Was those guys Were just doing Wild plyometrics And cardio And that's it They just like You know how to fight We're just gonna give you The most fucking insane gas tank You've ever had in your career And if you can get through This crazy camp Of doing box jumps And plyometrics And those fucking All those things They were doing With their feet Throwing them With their feet In their hands

157:30Marinovich's system's wild Wild shit And Nick Kurson Who I talked about He's trained under him They have this philosophy That a fighter Like a guy like you Or a guy like you You have so many fights You know how to fight You've been there You've done it What you really need to do For this camp Because you're getting ready For a fight Is not get injured And have a fucking insane gas tank The flip side of that Most recently And it's not the same thing Because the guy could be Weathered a little bit Who had that philosophy With Tony Ferguson Goggins

158:00Goggins put him Now look That's Tony Ferguson After Gaethje But Goggins put him Through a fucking A cardio session I think Tony Ferguson After Gaethje Is a different human Yeah he's been compromised And I like David Goggins But I don't I mean I don't think He should have been In the corner I mean you got him In the corner Yelling from the stand I'm not shit on Goggins I like old shit But he's in the corner Going get up Tony It's like it's one of those things Where it's like you know No shit Agreed Agreed Look when it comes to willpower And when it comes to like discipline

158:31There's no one like Goggins But that doesn't matter If you mount him And strangle him to death It doesn't matter You all that I fucking never quit You're gonna quit bitch Yeah yeah I'm gonna make your body quit I'm gonna make your body quit I don't care what kind of will you have I get behind you And put that in there You're going to night night You're gonna pee your pants That's how it goes You're a human being You have neck muscles You have veins That provide All that blood to your brain And I'm gonna cut that off And if You can't get all

159:00That he needs From a guy like that But you can get something You can get something But Tony at that time Was already on a long Skid Of multiple losses The Chandler knockout He gets front kicked in the face And an epic KO loss The Gaethje fight was horrific And then you gotta go before that He blows his fucking knee Out backstage He was the boogeyman We were gonna see the boogeyman Versus Khabib It was the fight Everybody was pumped Yeah And then Al steps in On super short notice Raging Al

159:30I acquitted Raging Al Had a great fucking account of himself Big time It was a very good fight Big time Very good fight Against Khabib In his prime 24 hours Khabib in his prime Yeah And didn't get finished For five rounds Yeah Bro I always wonder man If Tony Ferguson Just doesn't step on those wires And we get to see that fight My god How Yeah Cause that was Tony Ferguson When he was the fucking boogeyman When everybody was scared of him Yep He was beating the fuck out of everybody Who was the guy that Left them wires there Hopefully they fired that guy Cause he ruined history

160:00He ruined history There's always gonna be wires It's just a thing You gotta Didn't Randallman Fall backstage Yes Right before the fight He fell and hit his head I remember He stepped on some like loose pipe Like a pipe or something Went up in the air Banged his head Got knocked out Was bleeding Yeah It was terrible Everybody's always gonna be guessing But like Even when he was in his prime Like he fought Kevin Lee Kevin Lee got him down Mounted him But then he triangled him He did triangle him But Kevin Lee mounting You know offense to Kevin Lee It's not like Khabib on top of you

160:30So I mean Is he ever surviving that? You gotta remember Kevin Lee Maybe didn't Achieve his potential But Kevin Lee Choked out Kiesa Remember that? Kevin Lee was a mother He had his moments He did have his moments He had his moments He had mad potential Yeah When he knocked out What's his face? The wrestler? Oh Gregor That's right Gregor Oh That was about to switch Oh Bro Ended the hype train there Kevin Lee was a fucking beast man He just was inconsistent And then had a bunch of knee injuries Like severe knee injuries And that's the thing Like a fighter's window

161:00Is only open for so long Right So you gotta try to maximize that Right Do what you can When your window is open Right If you saw Fedor Fight Ryan Bader You can't judge Fedor On that And we tend to do that Definitely not We always do We judge B That's why I would say BJ Because we judge BJ By the end of his career It was like Tony Ferguson I mean I think Tony beat BJ's It's not a good record They already have But as far as how many losses In a row In a row Yeah So these guys So these guys gotta throw These guys names in Fight Pass All these young kids And see them in their glory days Because that's when

161:30You should really watch them Yeah But that's the thing about fighters Is like whatever that window is They say it's nine years At your very best From your contender To your champion Whatever When you're Fucking redlining Bang I think it's about five Really You know I think it's shorter than nine I think it's about five years Where you're just like In it Like you in it Let's get it right now Anderson Yeah Anderson is prime Yeah It's like five years Of just destruction And then afterwards It's like Man it's not You ain't got it no more

162:00Also injuries You know with Anderson Injuries Well first it was Weidman Weidman's left hook Yep That was the start of it all Yep Weidman's left hook Bro that was crazy Crazy Crazy Real crazy Same one he landed Uriah Hall Remember Yep Oh yeah Before Uriah Hall Was like the next big thing When he was in the ultimate fighter Chris had fought him In New Jersey Ring of combat Yep Lou Neglia Bro he had a long left hook Weidman's got that That extra foot To that hook You know It was a long hook That was an awesome show

162:30Like an extended arm hook At the end sometimes Go go gadget Left hook Yeah It's a good hook man Because the guys don't think It's going to be able to reach him And then all of a sudden It's there Pop I'm interested to see him And Eric Anders It's going to be a war Yeah because Eric's He's game Yeah Eric is game Remember when he fought Khalil And didn't even flinch And Khalil was just Blasting his legs Talk about being tough enough To take a beating Like Bro I asked him about it I was like What was that like He said every one of them hurt Every one of them They hurt so bad Good poker face He had the best poker face

163:00He just took it Yeah Some good fights coming up kids Some real good fights Oh fuck yeah I can't wait I love it I love a Saturday When the fight I hate when there's There's so many fights On every weekend That when there's not one on I'm like oh You know what I'm looking forward to More than any Holloway and Teporia Yeah That's the one for me When is that That's October October That's Abu Dhabi right Yeah October That's the one son That's the one 26 That's the one for me Cause I see that fight

163:30I go I don't Fucking know I love a fight Where I don't Fucking know I know A lot of people Would have counted out Him on the Gaethje fight Shit I thought Gaethje Was gonna beat him Insane And now you're giving him A lot of time to prepare And get ready for this fight And then Hamzat and Whitaker Is that gonna happen There's people I don't know Is that gonna happen You know if he's not sick again Gotta hope that happens This is a nice fucking card though It's a great card It is a good card Jeff Neal And Rafael Dos Santos RDA I didn't know that was

164:00What's happening Armin Petrosian And Magomedov Ooh Yeah that's some good fights On that card Yeah They bust out Anybody who celebrates Ramadan on that card Yeah Get in there Get in there Come on bro That main event That main event is so unpredictable Like Teporia Everybody he hits Goes night night I know Everybody he hits He's fucking Max is hard to hit Very hard to hit And Max got a chin

164:31On him too And he's got a gas tank That new sneaky spinning back kick While he's stepping away It was working right That might have been a game changer It's a game changer That landed at the end of that first round Smash the nose Changed the fight Changed the fight Changed the fight Changed the fight And it was a skill that he really didn't use a lot earlier in his career Yeah I know And he had it all of a sudden Dialed in It was crazy And it was a hard one to do Because he's moving away It was like a hop away spin to the face And talk about a hero Fucking ending to that fucking

165:01Oh my god You can't I don't think there's another fight That ended You wouldn't believe that If it was in a movie Right Shut up Right Shut up with your stupid A fight that is clearly ahead He fucking takes that chance Of playing to the floor Clearly ahead Yeah With a guy you know Throws hammers Yeah You know And he's been dropped in that fight already Right He got dropped The way he ended Legit dropped With him face planted Oh It's just stuff of legends And the fact that it's for the BMF belt What a perfect fight for the BMF belt That's a real BMF belt

165:30100% And it's crazy Because like I'm sitting right behind you guys And I'm watching you guys It's like natural reactions Like it's such a natural reaction And I know you guys take a lot of shit And they make memes about you guys But watching you do it in those moments Is the best thing ever Yeah you don't even know what's happening Yeah I think that was the first fight I ever stood up I got out of my chair I couldn't take it Like it's like oh I couldn't I literally couldn't take it I couldn't take it I couldn't I can't be sitting down I had to stand up Anik too

166:00Anik doesn't stand up very often either I don't think I couldn't I couldn't sit down I was like I can't believe I just saw that I can't believe that was real Yeah And then when Max is walking around Going It was fucking wild man That was wild Max be giving us some moments He might be my all time favorite Myself and Din Thomas were there Not a lot of people were there live I think it was in Abu Dhabi When he hit Calvin Cater And he's looking away He's like I'm the best boxer And he takes him in the face I still gave him the second fight with Volkanovski

166:32So you go back and think Imagine if he wins And that he doesn't go through this skid You know and you see Oh the Calvin Cater fight was brutal He changed Calvin Cater's career He changed Calvin Cater's career in that fight That was a bad beating It was a bad beating And it was kind of Should have never talked shit to him And this is the apex right No this is Abu Dhabi Oh that's right But no audience right That's why Boom Look at that

167:00He's not even looking at him And avoiding all the punches I'm the best boxer But is The other thing about Max too Is that fucking gas tank That gas tank is a weapon It's a weapon It's a weapon man The volume in the gas tank It's a weapon It's wild And that power's legit too Max seems to be even more powerful at 55 Than he is at 45 That's what I thought But my question is Does he maintain that When he gets down to 45 Like how hard's that cut Especially when he went up to 55

167:30Well he's got plenty of time To kind of Time it out Right So I think it's going to help him I hope so I would not want to see him Drained at all If he's fighting Ilya Does Ilya expose you Has he at Bro No his hands I know You see the video of him Hitting in mitts I saw his Even his brother hit like that Really I watched his brother hit mitts And I was like God damn Bro he hits mitts Like a world champion boxer Yeah I was going to say We haven't seen the other guy Tested Ilya

168:00But then again We did Giant Herbert Giant Herbert He got head kicked He got dinged And he came back Like a fucking beast He did And stopped him in the next round Yeah Yeah But Ilya's hands Are some of the most impressive hands In the sport No fat in his technique No wasted movements Well then we'll see Who's the best boxer I was getting ready to say You're going to find out This is good Jamie But there's a video That's like recently On his Instagram That's fucking insane Because he's going full clip Trying to show off And you get to really Like he's working here It's all good

168:30But see if you can find The clip that's on his Instagram page His Instagram has An insane video of him Just cracking mitts We played it on the podcast The other day Remember I just didn't know I mean Yeah that's it right there Give me some volume So you can hear this shit Bro Yeah that's clean Crispy Clean Everything No wasted motion But here's the thing With Max Is Max's movement

169:00Oh yeah Like Max ain't gonna be there for that Nope Yeah Max can't be there for that Yeah Tall as fuck Yeah Yeah And if Max can catch him And hurt him The way Jai Herbert did You know Max Something sneaky And you know Max is prepping Right He's watching that guy Like a hawk Does Volkanovsky have anything else On the radar No I think they're waiting To see what happens Poor Volk I mean I personally Like to see him Rest a little bit anyway I would 100% Want to see him rest a lot I think after those He should have Never taken a 10 days

169:31Notice fight With Islam Never Never Never Never Never Don't do it I don't care How much it's tempting And then immediately Three months later He fights Topuri After he gets KO'd With a head kick That seems crazy Shit Yeah man I wish I mean I thought As soon as I saw that fight I was like Are you kidding me man He was in there He was probably Before that He probably felt like I felt it before I felt it I've seen what's coming You know He took a risk Look I don't begrudge him For taking that shot

170:00I think the second fight Was even the bigger mistake Because you had just been Flatlined And now you gotta Cut back down And go back out there On such short notice Right But no other sport Would want a champion To go in there And fight for a title With 10 days notice They would never ask you To do that anywhere else That would never happen In boxing It's never gonna happen In a million years In boxing For sure Never But you know And it shouldn't They take advantage Of MMA guys Because they know we crazy Right That's part of it Plus you have

170:30All the fighters Are still under your control Under contract So you still It's a bit of a problem That's a bit of a problem But also Volkanovski Could have He had the choice He's just like He's a warrior He's a savage He's gonna go do it Yeah he's a savage We crazy We're crazy We're crazy In hindsight It was a bad idea But in his mind He's thinking This is an opportunity For me to become a legend Yeah of course Hindsight's always 20-20 Trying to build his legacy Of course And look That's what Aspinall did And he won the title Right exactly So had that been different For Aspinall

171:00We'd have been like Oh he shouldn't have Took that fight Exactly So like Pavlov That guy's an animal Yeah How's he fighting Pavlich With fucking What did he have Like how many days notice Did he have It was like seven days Seven days notice And a fucked up rib Couldn't wrestle Yeah Yeah Yeah It's a wild sport You know it's like Sometimes guys step in On short notice And it's exciting And they win You know so it's like The key is like Never get out of shape Yeah And I think with Volkanovski He was drinking a lot And That was probably more

171:30Didn't think of his comment I mean you saw physically How he looked for the second Islam fight Yeah And he always looks like a tank It was dad bod Instead of him You know looking right I would never take Back in the day too I need my camp I'm not gonna I would never Because you peak at the right You should be peaking At the right time 100% So you can say When people are like Well you should always be Fight ready But yeah But that's That's Easier said than done You could always be in shape But that's not fight shape And you don't know that Until you're fucking Back into sparring And you're like I still had abs But holy fuck

172:00I think if you're always About four weeks out Like that's probably About the right Right And you get ten days notice You might be able To pull it out You might be able To pull that out And if you maintain A respectable level of cardio Yep But if you're Volk And you're drinking Eating cheeseburgers Yeah not a good idea And then you gotta lose All that fucking weight Yeah I can't I used to be a fatty Between shit too When you're staying away From the pizza and pasta For two months You're like Well everybody says That they develop An eating disorder How about patty Yeah

172:30That's patty Patty the baddie That's a real Eating disorder Those cheeks on him He gets huge He goes hard He gained 40 pounds In a week God damn What about when he's Retired eventually He's gonna be Butterbean Yeah He already Right between fights It's crazy Butterbean with that Crazy hair That's him He does it proudly too He don't give a fuck Bro that Bobby Green Fight was a big deal That was a big deal That was about his Yeah That was a big deal I didn't The way he did that That was beautiful

173:00Man Kept him at kicking range Yeah And I didn't expect Bobby to shoot But the second he did Patty's got nice jiu-jitsu Yeah Very sharp Off his back And the other thing Was like you notice How big he looked Because Bobby's big Bobby's not a small 55er And you realize like Damn He might underestimate How big Patty is at 55 He's fucking pretty big And those kicks were good Yeah That's what I'm saying He's not a bad fighter But Bobby's a very good Stand up fighter For sure So Bobby get his legs Lit up that quick That was a big deal I expected to see him Get tested

173:30And he wasn't tested At all Well he got an A plus Yeah Handled it But do you think He's ready for like The top guys now Would you put him in there With an Armand Sarukian You know what I'm saying No I put him in there With the winner of The Moicano and Saint Denis Oh that's a good fight Yeah Winner Moicano Saint Denis Yeah put him in there With one of them guys I would love to see him Fight Moicano I like Moicano's Been going more With his jiu jitsu lately Yeah Moicano's got really good jiu jitsu That's what I'm saying I saw him Ball up Chase Hooper

174:00In a grappling tournament Yeah Ooh Ball him up And how good is that Fucking post fight interview Oh man He's the best Nothing is better than Give me my fucking money He's funny He is He's on his podcast He's funny Like this guy's a character All of a sudden Like he's good Well he figured it out man You know some guys Figured it out Like Colby had to figure it out He did it his way Everybody figures it out You figure out You gotta get people Figured out to be a twat Everybody's getting their own way No but yeah But there's certain things I mean that's his gig Once you get into fam

174:30Listen Yeah The second he spoke about Leon Edwards' dead father It shows you that he's a He's a fucking piece of shit Colby you're a fucking piece of shit Dude I'm down for none of that I mean you don't do that When Connor was talking about Poirier's wife Like come on man Well that's why That's like I'm fine And you want to street I couldn't fight now Yeah yeah No doubt That's why it's so interesting That a guy like Perea Gets as high as he gets With none of that Zero Well I mean it's proof That you don't need it You don't need to cross that line You just need to fuck people up

175:00You don't even need to speak English He's got a good social media presence There like he shows a sense of humor You know what I mean On social media So I think that endears people to him as well Bro and that thing he did When he kicked the soccer ball And then hit it with an arrow Oh yeah yeah That was crazy What would he do He kicked a soccer ball And then shot it with an arrow So he kicks it Oh he really shoots arrows Yes I thought he was just fucking around No no he's really good man He's really good at that That guy's right out of the Amazon But he does that kind of archery I don't even do that kind of archery

175:31I do archery with like releases And fucking everything It's like this He nails it And that's before he beat Adesanya Listen give me some volume on this Because when he screams Imagine being the neighbor And hearing this He hits it Imagine being the neighbor Calling 911 right away Get this guy out of here And then you watch him on pay-per-view And like oh Jesus Christ You can't even complain

176:00You can't even say Hey man I'm trying to take it now He's fun That's pretty sick Yeah some guys don't need it They don't need that extra Fucking whatever it is Well he's got the swag with him As just the stoic warrior Coming out and shooting an arrow at you And screaming Well I mean at the end of the day Like people are attracted to violence Yeah And at the end Like even Robbie Lawler Like people love Robbie And he never said He hated doing it 100% It was the violence That attracted people 100% Talking about wars Him and both Rory McDonald

176:31Oh my god Him and Carlos Condit Oh my god Right Him and Melvin Manhoof Remember that Oh yeah His leg kicked out That was a one way ass whipping Until he uncorked I didn't want to Oh fucking bomb That was crazy He was kicking Robbie's leg so bad It was lifting His leg up in the air He's probably having flashbacks Of Pete Spratt Oh yeah That's right Remember that Pete Spratt People forgot about Pete Spratt He was a good striker Very good striker Dude What a crazy time

177:00This sport has gone through In all these years Like this fight Was so horrible to watch man These guys were so busted up I like this one Look at Rory's nose It's gone It's just flat That's how it ends Dude He fucking punches him right again Oh And then it just He just can't take it anymore Head split open His lips split open Yeah His lips hanging off Yeah This is easily The best fight of all time What's great about Robbie I'm certainly in the conversation Robbie He left nice He knocked out I forgot who he finished Nico Price Nico Price

177:30Nico Price First round And then he went off to the sunset And he knocked him out Without taking a shot Yeah It was great And that's so easy to say I want one more after that It was the best way to ride off But he's going to be a great coach too And I'm sure he is But he's also a guy like You want that guy to be proud of you Yeah Yeah It's Robbie Law Yeah for sure Like there's something to that If you're getting coached by a guy like that Look at his face Look at that Stay in school kids Yeah There you go You better really know what you want If you're going to do this for a living Yeah dude And then you got to look across and see that shit

178:00Right Yeah This guy's got a fucking joker smile on him He's ready to go to war for the fucking final round Ooh What a sick fight Yeah shit We've seen some wild fights boys Man we're going to see some wild ones this weekend Yeah I'm excited I don't know what's going to happen in the main event I know you're partial to Murab But I just don't know what's going to happen I'm very interested Very interested He gets past that first round He's got to keep them He hits one clinch Yeah It's going to be very interesting They're saying he needs one shot I'm saying Murab needs one clinch Not to end the fight But to do enough damage

178:30The thing is I feel like Sugar is a better striker than Marlon And Marlon had Murab in trouble And that's what gives me pause on the feet Like you can only take so many of those sniper shots from Sugar The other thing But can he land them And can Murab keep moving And keep threatening and pressure You know The argument is There's one guy who's going to win by taking him down and smashing him And the other guy's going to win by knocking him out on the feet And we don't know what's going to play out It's going to be interesting It's going to be fucking phenomenal The thing that I think that Sean does well

179:03Like he got Aljo with it I mean you know Murab's going to be pressuring Because that's how he's going to He has to beat him Sean took out Aljo backing up You know what I mean So a lot of guys can't fight moving backwards He does have the ability to fight moving backwards He's also a great game planner Him and Tim Welch have a great relationship They study shit They find holes You know They knew that Aljo has this tendency to get like a little over anxious

179:31And charge in He definitely would lunge with his strikes He was ready for that I'm just interested to see if he can capitalize Because if he can't If Murab can get a hold of him Murab's just a different kind of Wolverine on top of you I think he needs one round Mushing him in the fence Just like wear him out Like kind of like GSP did with BJ You know Wear him out a little bit Slow him down a little bit And then you can put the pace on him It's going to be very exciting Some guys are afraid of extending too much energy on a takedown Murab's not Murab's not Murab's not And he's not going to

180:00And that same energy you felt in the first It's coming You're going to feel in the fifth Yeah A thousand percent That's what we're dealing with Look I'm rooting for Murab I like him I think he's great Having a gas tank is such a weapon It's another weapon in the arsenal It really is Might be the most important Because what's the difference What you know If you can't get out there and apply it And Murab's one of them nutty dudes at Spars Up until the day of the fight Right? He's I've seen that guy clocking rounds That was just ridiculous I'm like wait He already did five rounds Why is he going back

180:30It's insane what he does It's not normal And And again I think that If he doesn't get caught with that perfect shot He's a hard guy to put away And he's not going to stop He's a little terminator And he also knows this is his big moment Yeah Also The pressure Is not going to He's not I've already When he was going to fight the P.D. On P.D. On When he had that P.D. On fight Before that fight got On the table Like when they were talking about it He told me

181:00Murab was like I don't know He didn't Until he accepted it Like he was like There's so much pressure in this fight I He goes You know The history between Georgia and Russia He goes This is not just a fight for me If I lose this He was so The pressure was so much I couldn't even tell you He's rapping his country That's different That's one of my proudest When he took that fight And the way he handled it He was different In that fight Even the lead up He's calling him a bitch He's dealing with the Russian bully And so when he won that That was like That was like the title fight for me

181:31He whooped his ass too It was a dominant performance Oh my goodness That was a wake up call For everybody in the division Like he can do that to Jan Oh my god Jan's a strong motherfucker man He's a strong dude And Murab was able to stand With guys like Jan And things So he's definitely not He's definitely not incapable there No he can fuck you up on the feet too And that's part of the problem With a guy who's trying to take you down All the time Yeah Always ready for that And then these bombs Are coming your way Get off a few But Sean is such a fucking sniper And he's so agile

182:00His style His athleticism His movement is Switching stances Fighting just as good off the left As off the right You can switch stances In the middle of a combination Choose angles It's just Can he keep that fucking animal Off of him And they're both Extremely confident Yeah Which I like You know what I'm saying I like when his I love that shit Yeah It's exciting It's exciting It's a real clash of styles So many fucking good fights These days man What a good time to be a fan Right Fuck yeah man

182:30We're spoiled We're so spoiled The most I know I mean the boxing's making A little comeback too Oh yeah I think you know Once Gervonta and Ryan Garcia Got it on now It seems like they're starting To make some more fights Well the Saudis Saudis Yeah yeah And they added all the money And was like Let's go They're bringing the money Come on What do you think of them They're talking I mean are they really doing Canelo for 20 bucks Or something You saw what they were saying On the pay-per-view It's only $20 I don't Don't quote me But the I don't think so The prince who runs That Riyadh stuff Said he's going to make

183:01All pay-per-views $20 Because he believes That it would make it more Expose it to more people Grow the audience We'd still make money And everybody will be able I wonder if How many more people Would buy it If it's 20 rather than 70 They might make their money That's I mean it's what he's saying And he was talking about If it's that cheap Canelo for free Yeah he said If it was that cheap That people would Stop pirating That too They might Yeah 70 bucks is a lot It's like isn't it 79 Sometimes it's more than that

183:30Yeah I mean I It's a lot If it's 20 bucks I wonder I wonder how much I mean it'd be an interesting Thing to try Yeah I didn't know they were Going to start with Canelo I thought they were Starting with better beef But I mean that'd be Yeah And nobody even knows They were talking about Doing that for like 15 bucks Nobody even knows They should know these two I know I mean they're both Sick sick boxers Isn't better beef 20-0 With 20 knockouts Yeah Yeah But he's 39 I don't even watch The fucking boxing To be honest I can't watch it

184:00After the MMA I just watch the fights It's hard for me I mean I pick my spots Yeah You ever see Ben Whitaker Who? Ben Whitaker No Ben Whitaker You know who Ben Whitaker is? Yeah That dude who's got that Crazy drunken style Yeah He's awesome He's awesome Big tall light heavyweight He's got this wild style 90 bucks 90 bucks So much for your $20 Right Next time It's out there Next time 20 bucks You can find an article That was 20 Joshua versus Dubois Oh There you go After you pay for the Pay-per-view Should be 15 Oh that's a good deal

184:30So you pay for the pay-per-view And then other fights are 20 bucks 20 bucks That's a good deal Yeah I think so Alright gentlemen This was a lot of fun Oh man So protect your neck That's our new name Yeah that's it That's it Way better than Cucks I think so But our chat group Is still Cucks Change it Change it When I pop up I get a kick out of that Every time I say that To protect your neck Alright Gentlemen Tell everybody Where they can see your new podcast And thank you for doing it I'm very glad you're doing it Dude thank you for pushing me And planting that seed in my mind

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