Scott Eastwood & Cameron Hanes

00:02do three two one oh ladies and gentlemen we got a sweet show today Cameron Haynes is in the building ladies and gentlemen Cameron Haynes what's up what's up brother Scott Eastwood is in the house and if you can't see me it's cuz I'm wearing this sweet underarm or camo shirt and I do tend to blend into the background so if you get confused and go where why is Joe's head just floating in the air like that but if you if you could see it you'd be you notice you look jacked in it jacked right it's tight it's form fitting dude I'm feeling it I'm feeling it it's a floating head so uh Cam's in town we were shooting bows today and I know he gave you a bow yesterday yeah yeah yeah he uh we went down to Riverside uh Riverside archery and to check out uh you know throw me a throw me a a bow so that was cool you had an old you had an old bow we we had an upgrade didn't we what

00:57was your old bow it was a old Ross it was like Ross probably from Ross dress for L yeah same company no no what's I didn't I didn't heard is Ross and archery company a big archery company no no small yeah I don't I don't know I'm not even sure if they still they probably don't make him anymore this was like a secondhand bow I bought off somebody uh years ago so is this something you wanted to do for a while and somehow or another you got a hold of Cam uh I don't remember how we got uh connected if we Instagram he likes to say I slid him in DM you know like it's all going down in the DM some desperate girl but I think I think I mean I I always put up hunting stuff obviously and I think you commented maybe or something and so it wasn't like an unsolicited DM like hey I'd like to get to know you a little better but I think it was which would have been okay too you

01:48know if you you know it's all good I mean it's 2017 everybody's free to express themselves the way they feel yeah so it's something like that built on and then we just started archery and or talking archery then hunting and you know he he grew up and Hunt has hunted and had the bow and so yeah he was got done with his movie stuff and was here and thought hey let's get together yeah also also the public land stuff too I you know been noticing you guys both been talking about that and so I was really interested in that so I started reading up about it and and I just said you know hey how can I help how can I get involved because this you know means a lot to me I'm a native Californian and I grew up going to Yus uh you know going hunting going fishing uh using the public land and so it was really important to me uh you know my dad was a state parks commissioner uh most people don't know

02:35that so when was this what point his life this was this was got to be when before he was the mayor no no after this really yeah this was after uh so fairly recently then yeah probably in the last I would say 15 years I I know he he he did it for a while and then got out um but you know he was he was big and um in the uh do you remember the toll road going through the the um San Clemen no I'm not aware of that yeah so they they were proposing a this was an Arnold hener was uh was in office and they were proposing a toll road to go through San Clemen which goes through uh trestles which is a popular surf break and uh he was you know everyone you know got behind it um Surf Rider Foundation because they didn't want it because it was going to you destroy the wave and ultimately destroy the the national park there um and so you know he was big on that kind of stuff and and so I've

03:27always been you know sort of following his you footsteps say hanging we got to we got to get in front of this problem dude your dad's Clint Eastwood that's so crazy that is so crazy what is it like having Clint Eastwood as a dad like what's your dad do my dad is Clint Eastwood people just be like oh they just walk away confused like what happened to me I just got hit with a rock I mean and you look like him man it's weird like when I'm looking at you I see your dad like from the old Outlaw Josie w days yeah yeah yeah it's you know what's crazy is looking at at photos uh of him when he was 12 and I was 12 uh you cannot tell the difference you put them in both in black and white you can't tell the difference wow that's a trip yeah what was it like growing up with him as a dad when did you realize like holy I think I realized uh I'm 31 so I probably realized when I was

04:22about 8 I watched Unforgiven oh yeah he let you watch that when you were eight that's my favorite Clint movie ever that well High Plaines Drifters right up there too I don't know it's hard to lock them down sure sure but The Unforgiven is a dark movie man yeah it's dark William Money William Money killer of women and children woo that's a dark movie man we all got it coming yeah that's what he says in that one I like was like probably one of the most realistic Killers too like the way he handled stuff and the way everybody else was like falling apart you never saw that in those movies well it was about regret it was about uh a life filled of uh of regret and and and filled of you know things that you did wrong that you wish you could have you know done better and um you know it was sort of a la one last ride to you know be to do something better for his kids you know so that I

05:15think that was sort of interesting it was it was sort of a final culmination of all his westerns it really was and and almost like he updated them all too because like in the old movies like you'd have cowards and you'd have Heroes and stuff like that but in the given he took it to a totally different level like psychologically you know like even the way he like the switch goes off when he starts drinking and then he starts just murking everybody like the way it was handled it seemed so realistic the way everybody would fall apart and gunfights and the way I got to watch that again now it's been a while now now I'm like this sounds awesome it's great it's a great movie I remember seeing it I remember the movie I went to see in the movie theater and when the credits rolled at the end I just went like this whoa yeah powerful one yeah it's intense movie man intense so when you're

06:07eight you figured it out like that movie right right around then yeah I I remember it's uh watching it not sure if I watch it with him or shortly after he made it um and just thinking you know that is the coolest thing and I want to do that you know I want to I want to be in movies I want to tell stories like that wow how so how many and you have brothers and sisters and so how did all that work uh yeah I've got I've got a few sisters my dad was a busy guy uh how many kids in the family uh well how many wives yeah let's just go with that there's uh there he's only had two wives but he's had a few few girlfriends a few different babies Mas yeah so did did you live with him or I did I did uh I would bounce back and forth I lived with my mom uh I lived with my mom in California until it was about uh 7 or 8 and then I lived uh then we then she moved she packed up I this

07:05kind of around the time when they split was your mom an actress too no no no no no she was a just a normal person yeah flight attendant uh she had two kids with my dad and uh we we she packed up I think when they sort of split and she moved to Hawaii she had lived there uh when she was a lot younger and so she had always loved Hawaii and so I had gone to uh Hawaii to live uh probably from about uh 8 to about 16 wow yeah and then I ultimately moved back with my dad uh for like the last couple years of high school and so yeah it was it was an interesting upbringing right I mean you know one hand I was you know with my dad for for some time one I was in Hawaii uh living there and you know I don't know if you know anything about Hawaii as as a white boy growing up uh you're you're the minority yeah yeah so it was it was a lot of um a lot of fist fights did you

07:57show up with a howly t-shirt on how's rule pretty much I mean that's that's you know a lot of people don't you know realize that it's pretty you know Hawaii's very from Like a Warrior Society still um and and that's a great thing kind of because it's still it's very Primal uh and it's also you know sort of it's one of those things where um there's not a lot of tolerance for um you know someone that you don't know or part of your family um and so you know for me it was it was it was tough you know was it was did they accept you eventually you know sports sports uh Sports really bridge that Gap uh football I played football and that was that really it was tough cuz the first year they were like no they were like you know get the out of that out of suck um yeah you know I was I was a kid at then I was probably you know I don't know I can't remember 10 or so

08:52playing peeee football right and then as as you know as I would you know you know prove myself that I was was down for hard work and uh you know down to throw hits that you know that sort of you know uh bridged the Gap and then ultimately they were part of my team and then so we would you know go to other schools and you know play other schools and then I was still the the howy boy to everybody else but they had my back now so that was cool that had to be a bizarre time man to be a 10year old and all a sudden be in that environment sure sure that was um it was different it was uh you had didn't know any better cuz I'm going okay well this is what I got to deal with now these the cards I got dealt so they got to man up yeah I have a bunch of buddies who live in Hawaii and you know they say that if you're respectful and you're you know you're not a douchebag like after a while you just

09:43fit right in and everybody's cool with it yeah I mean it's it it's uh I grew up also as a surfer you know gr up growing up surfing and so there's definitely a pecking order and a respect there that you have to learn uh or you going to learn the hard way um and and that's I think that was a good thing you know ultimately because it it kind of humbles you um and makes you makes you know your place um which is good did you uh start training Jiu-Jitsu there uh I started uh you know actually um one of my good buddies uh who passed away Paul Walker got me into uh Jiu-Jitsu um he got me in about six years ago six maybe maybe more now yeah he was like a purple belt right or a brown belt or something yeah he was a a brown belt when he died uh um and so yeah he he was I mean he was you know die hard I mean he had a place in Hawaii actually and he had uh he would he would

10:37go get matth and he would get his place outfitted so he could practice at home oh W um and he got me he got me involved and that's you know that's another thing that's great about uh over there is like you really realize like obviously you know um jits is like the ultimate humbling yeah you know for people uh especially for you know I think for men that carry a lot of ego around or car a lot of you know you know I think as men we're trying to figure out who we are especially when we're young um it really calms your ego down because you always know you know I'm going to choke some people out and people are going to choke me out yeah and it's just no matter what level you're at you also get it out of your system like the the one of big part of what men do they puff their chest up is they want to prove themselves and they haven't yet and they don't know and

11:23so they want to like put up this air like they're some bad CU they're insecure it's just they don't know and once you've done it a bunch of times and you know trained for a few years it just it all calms down yeah you notice like all the all the you know guys who do it consistently or E the high level guys just so calm yeah so calm and that's actually one thing I noticed about Cameron too he's like he's a calm cuz he spends a lot of time out in the wilderness and I think that has a a big uh you know with the world we live in now today yeah we're yeah and and we talked about we talked about this some some of the experiences the stressful experiences and the hard I mean life here is never hard really the challenges we face in the regular everyday World sometimes you have traffic dude sometimes the line at Starbucks is huge I know that okay that's hard okay aside from name they

12:18spelled cam with a K right but so it I mean it puts it in perspective it's just kind of like what you're saying but yeah you need experiences like that just you kind of simulate those and training or and you know the H that I do or the races that I do and it keeps it in perspective so you don't get wound up over the the little stuff it's like no no biggie but there's also like an there's a humbling just being in the woods yeah you just realize like oh this this doesn't matter if I never existed like if human beings were never invented these Woods would be exactly like this no and that I've thought about that a lot I've been in the mountains and you know I'd say if something happens if you know who knows you die for whatever reason nothing there changes in I yeah I mean it's nothing is so it's like your existence doesn't even matter and I think we we need to we feel too

13:06self-important sometimes I think some people do and so in that situation you're like okay this I'm I'm you know nothing really my friend uh Ryan Callahan you know Ryan from first light yeah he was out in the woods uh with two friend of his and they uh and they they work for the the park they were like Rangers or something and uh they found a human skull mhm and they're like whoa and it just just puts it all in perspective like you're out deep deep in the back country and you find a human skull mhm and it's just like okay yeah this is real like this this was a person something went wrong yeah and they just never never found them and you know just happens could be a bear could be a cat could be a trip lightning yeah yeah I mean lightning happens a lot to people out there yeah yeah but I was I was uh I was telling you the other day Cameron about uh I've been doing a lot of

13:58reading about um about like circadian rhythms in in our in our body because uh I've had chronic uh sleepwalking chronic night terrs uh since I was a little kid what is night tears what's the difference between night tears and sleep walking uh I don't know I mean I've had both so what is the night tears a night terar would be you know sort of uh you wake up in the middle of the night you to scream yelling that's every no you know get out in the middle of a bad dream um uh and they can sort of I think they can coincide with sleepwalking probably you know so stress related I think so um it's hard to say I got him uh when I was young when I started getting them uh I think when I was about in sixth grade um so I don't know if it was if it was uh if it was stress related or or what it was um but I started getting them and then um you know I've I've had them in 31 now and so

14:55I've been reading a lot about that and I obviously listen to your podcast a lot about um just about the way humans are supposed to operate in the natural life cycle right you know you you you wake up in the morning because it gets light and you go to bed because it gets dark and we're screwing that all up with the TVs and the phones and and all the all the stuff and anytime I've ever been in the wilderness to do a lot of backpacking and you know been a lot of hunting trips and fishing and stuff it's it really calms uh my body down a lot and uh what they said was in all the reading I've done is is that um your your creation of melatonin is in your Optics because of like the assimilation of light so when it gets dark your your mind's supposed to create more melatonin MH uh which obviously you know puts you to sleep but because we don't have that or we're

15:49we're manipulating that it's uh it's changed everything that's why they invented ambient yeah works great yeah I mean it's there's a lot of people out there that are Tak pills that just knock them out you know just in order to deal with the fact that we're constantly surrounded by lights and staring at your phone before you go to bed and watching TV and go to the bathroom the lights bright your body doesn't know what that is no and that's we were when we were talking about this yesterday it's like I said I've never been born at peace and relaxed and slept as well as I have in the mountains you know once there's an adjustment period it seems like but once I'm there it's just like I've never been and I don't want to make it sound anything bad at home but I mean I've never been more uh I don't I don't know if it's happy or just more content content that's exactly right more

16:39content sure than I am in the mountains it feels like that's just natural that's how it's supposed to be well people really are supposed to interface with the wild with the Wilderness the same way all animals are we've just created these weird structures over the past few thousand years when you really think about civilization they we only figured out how to talk 40 years ago yeah you know I mean or the wheel right the wheel was you know I mean yeah I think the wheel is five no it's a little little longer than that it's somewhere around 6,000 years ago they figured out the wheel which is just hilarious mhm but here's here's the best way to put that in perspective like so let's say it's 5,500 years ago that's essentially a person lives to be 100 that's 55 people ago 55 people ago they were just dragging around that's that's insane that's insane yeah 55 people go and then before that you

17:35know you just go back a few more people and they were grunting I mean they they they hadn't even figured out how to write things down they you know it's really nuts or or even you know what's what's even crazier to think about is how we've taken airplanes and perfected that in the last 50 years you know before that it was you know you didn't you couldn't just get on an airplane and be anywhere in the world in 24 hours oh yeah it's a totally new experience 1903 you want to hear the craziest statistics ever okay between the time the plane was invented between the invention of the airplane and someone dropping an atomic bomb out of the airplane it was less than 50 years jeez yeah that's crazy what we do to each other I know it was like somewhere like 44 years or something like that between the invention of the airplane by the W Brothers the first flight and then a bomb dropping on Hiroshima

18:26yeah and then now there's Fast and Furious 8 and they got bombs in I like seg segue nice plug there jeez that was good bro you should be a publicist no it's totally unrelated just thought of that how many of those have you done no this is the first one that I've done this is the first one yeah this is the eighth this will be the eighth one and they're going to do 10 right so they're doing them back to back is that what they're doing I think that's the plan uh you know I'm not I'm not uh you know I'm sure Vin and Vin Diesel and and the producers have you know know the plan set but I mean that's the Whispers I hear that we do a couple more um I think 10 would be cool you made it this far might as well go to 10 right no can you tell us does your character survive can you give us a spoiler alert are you allowed to I saw I saw the movie he saw tell me then you're not

19:15obligated you didn't have to sign anything did you it was it was good last night I mean Scott had a big role I was it was cool cuz I didn't know for you know you never know it's just like didn't didn't ask didn't anything but yeah he's all over it the whole time so it's cool he did a good job let's just say it's a good one and everyone will like it are you a muscle car guy do you like muscle cars yeah I'm a I'm a classic car guy um I like Classics I love the old 60s uh Ferrari between you know Ferrari and Ford that whole rivalry back then so oh like the GTS exactly exactly I'm actually getting uh getting the opportunity to uh purchase uh one of the new GTS uh coming out in 2017 really dude that thing looks insane insane and they're making only 100 this year what a bunch of why would you only make a hundred why would you make 100 why would you make a 100 7 billion people you

20:07going to make a 100 cars they're collectibles well what so so I mean how much they charge for those for a hundred buck for hundred of them I mean oh well I I think the price is about 3 350 $350,000 yeah but a picture of this thing it's it's a beast look at that thing that's the new one my God Insanity yeah configurator you can config why are they letting you configure it if you can't even buy it just bunch of teases Ford what are you doing that first of all that doesn't even look like a Ford I mean that looks that looks like a Ford on planet marsy J changing the color kind like a Ferrari does getting crap it looks better than a Ferrari oh it looks I think it's you know that's badass fing car let me see the see if you got some other uh angles on it is there any other angles o look at that oo pretty the hood oh my God some camo on there hey is there camo option there Ridge Reaper

21:03option look at that car oh my God what a beast yeah I think I might get one too actually wow go for it dude go for it get rid of the ram my whole life of uh salary but that's all right $350,000 but meanwhile the way they're making cars today that thing's got to be insane they yeah but that'll be like a piece of art you know that that be you know like the the GT you know the older GTS that have gone up in value because they just don't you know you know it's hard to say that about new cars though so much plastic and stuff they just don't seem to people don't want them you know like if you get a 1960s car it's worth a shitload of money today but a 1990s car ain't worth you know what I mean it's like there's no Classics from 1990 there's a couple Porsches like 964 from the '90s or 993s the the air cooled cars they're still worth some money they're they're Classics but

22:02that's kind of it like maybe a few classic Ferraris from that day but like a Camaro from 1990 push that thing off a cliff start and shoot at it while it's on its way down hey don't let your girl drive that car yeah oh she got issues we were saying before she she crashes things a little bit a little bit she's got a history of uh long history let's leave it at that Hey listen people can't be great at everything yeah no that's true have you seen the new Acura NSX no Jesus Christ look at this thing Jamie pull that up if you're into cars you know Acura built the last NSX in 2005 so it's like 12 years off before they they came out with the new one and they just came out with the new one this year and this spaceship this monstrous spaceship see if you find a silver one so I like that when when they do that with cars they sort of wait a long time to get you know come up with a whole new concept

22:57not just a every three or four years four-wheel drive yeah totally yeah no I like it too four-wheel drive uh electric Wheels on the front it's it it's tough looking at that one after the Ford done it is well that's not a good angle j keep going the same angle what you doing here withell that for but I'm telling you no love that for what are you talking about get off the site the site's they get you with that Kelly Blue Book that's a click see if you can see uh like that 3/4 view in the the up upper left hand side right there nope yeah look at that it's a dope car man when you see one in real life it looks like a spaceship it really does yeah it looks cool cars today man but that's like looking at uh the a new ho and looking at the Ross bow really you think that you don't think that looks as cool that looks good but not as good as a Ford does it pretty close I

23:49don't know dude everybody's got different taste cam hands yeah yep I just can't wait for the self-driving because people just are terrible drivers so let's just let's just get on with that we we figured that out everyone Su then what about these kind of cars well that's fine just let them be self- or you know that's not going to be self-driving that would be ridiculous imagine if you have a car like that like a 4D GT with it self-driving mhm unless you're on a racetrack You' be like what am I going to live on a racetrack this is so stupid there something that happening as we're making things autonomous we're going to lose a little bit of something sure sure sort of one of the reasons why people like handmade stuff now like you get a pair of handmade boots or something like that it's likeo it feels different you know I got these are handmade Lucas's are they really luc's

24:36handmade they I think they take like 18 no was made like 11 days to do to do from start to finish with all the leathering and stuff they do I mean they do in different stages right but they're the I mean they're the best boots on the market and doesn't that feel different like when you have them like there's something knowing that a person made it too yep well they're just so comfortable I mean cowboy cowboy boots normally aren't that comfortable but that's what my boots were yesterday too so nice I was reading this podcast reading a podcast what listening to a podcast listening to a book I guess he can do that can do that now about uh horseback riding and this guy was explaining how people try to wear like hiking boots when they go horseback riding and they Jam their food he's like there's a reason why cowboy boots fall off so easy it's so you don't get dragged behind a horse like it's

25:24supposed to happen that way yeah that's why they're pointed so they slide in and slide out they slide in and slide out and they slip right off your feet yeah yep and you have you get a good pair of these I mean they'll last 10 20 it last a lifetime you know what I mean it could I just bought I got mine the ones I had yesterday which were like a, bucks and I just got them resold because I'd worn them so much 7 7450 so weell it yeah brand new Souls on I mean brand new boot I've heard that since you have your own Under Armour sneaker that you're the Kanye West of badasses is this true I don't know what that means no no Kanye West of bow hunting oh well because Kanye West has Yeezys do you know what Yeezys are yeah his shoe right yeah Jamie buys them look he's you you have M you son of a he's such a weirdo he's got like five pairs of them this weirdo so I don't

26:12even know yezy that's what the kids are call Jamie aren't those aren't those a lot like expensive stupid expensive if you can't get them when they come on sale they are a lot like how much are they right of the gate uh the ones that are going to resale that come out this month are reselling for 2,000 right now 200 retail 200 retail and they sell for 2,000 yeah because they make what a 100 Pair 20,000 maybe like that goddamn you can get a free one with a 4 GT yeah so I think so anyway I think that's how Brandon's reference is tied in is shoot Kanye shoe yes that's what it is yeah it's not that you're an egotistical autistic rapper it's not that well I see him at he was at the UFC fight I don't know I was was there yeah yeah I don't know which one it was oh yeah that's right he was there with uh the boyfriend that JLo dumped because he went to the UFC it was one of Connor's fights oh was

27:05it that's what it was yeah the boyfriend wanted to go to the to the McGregor fight and JLo was like that she's staying with me Jamie got a picture with him Kanye yeah here's here's I remember but here's Kanye West even at the UFC fight just like this well I saw him smile a few times when he met some people really yeah but he's he needs a hug I got him a smile the did you what' you do no he didn't smile not in your picture did he yeah I'll pull it up what'd you do to get him to smile where' it go well he's uh he needs a hug that's what I think needs a hug and some good friends so I'm going to calm him down I think so yeah settle down dude we talk to you about your prenup you got one right that's what I would do there he is that is not smile that was a small smirk no not reallyy smile that's not it's you're just the smile from Tony Hinchcliffe is bouncing off plus you

27:57didn't smile so he was like why am I smiling if this dude isn't smiling you're not even happy to meet me you why you even taking a picture # blessed at least he's got Tupac on his on his shirt he's got taste in that regard that's the best thing about that other than Jamie and Tony yes I agree the Tupac shirt's a good move it's a good move yeah if you're you know I don't know the rapper world is a very strange world I can't even imagine can't even imagine no but hey I did want to ask something so when you're growing up was there pressure because your dad was Clint Eastwood did you and then you said you wanted to be an actor you knew was that I know we're going back to it but I was just wondering that's good good question well I think I think I always wanted to be uh tell stories I don't know if I I necessarily knew I wanted to be an actor um I think

28:48as I get older I realize it's more about telling stories um I just sort of fell into the acting I was like okay well this could be a way I could get in I could I could go into that so you just enjoy the entertainment process like creating something that people are going to be entertained by and enjoy yeah exactly telling a story that you know people can relate to laugh cry whatever do you think you'll go the road to your dad and like maybe do some directing and writing and things along yeah is that the plan that's a plan that's a plan you know taking control of your own career uh is is good and it's also you you know you tell the stories you want to tell yeah we were talking about this before the podcast that the world of the ACT is very difficult and a lot of people like accuse actors of being fake and I think one of the reasons for that narcissistic that for sure but one of

29:37the reasons for the accusing them of being fake is that they always have to put on the best show like as far as their behavior and the way they act and think and their opinions because they're constantly trying to get cast in things and it's all about getting to people like you and politicking and and we were talking also about like you kind of have to have liberal sensibilities like in this town if you if you a right together does that even make sense it seems like they contradict each other liberal sensibilities that well it's one reason that I moved uh I moved out of La is you know years ago uh I just I got sick of yeah there are great there are great people in La great people and you know I'm I'm from California so I feel have a you know uh there a has a place in my heart here um but I got it at La because you know if you meet a 100 people La you might you me you 95 that are full of

30:30and you know five good ones uh and and I think that too generous that yeah that's a problem right and everyone I always I always I always judge it when when I meet somebody and I'm having a conversation with them and I ask how they're doing you know if I mean an actor or something you know how you been or what you working on cool and you know a lot of times they're just they're just waiting for their turn to talk they're not even listening to you they're just sort of you know did you you know they're not going to return that and say oh how what are you doing you know what's going on yeah you you don't feel like a sincere conversation no not at all yeah that's a big issue with people in general but in La it's I think this is the the magnet for all the narcissists and all the people that want attention and the people that that have a hole they have a hole they need to fill up for whatever

31:14their childhood whatever whatever the it is and they they gravitate here and then they just communicate with each other the same way and everybody kind of like pretends to be someone who they're not and then hopefully they make it and then once they make it then they just you know become some weirdo just it's it's weird how many of them are like almost like Cookie Cutter like oh I've met that guy before he just looked different you know you know what I mean it's like it's like the same person living a different life I've know this I know ex got lazy on the assembly line of people yeah oh just they fell asleep or something but the actor world is like I've met a lot of comedians that are similar but they're a lot they're vary so much but the actors boy there's a lot that are super similar just a lot of you know but then again you'll meet some of them who've like

32:04figured it out and made it through and they're super normal and real like Adam Sandler is one of the nicest guys you've ever met in your life oh my God he couldn't be nicer to like if you didn't know he was Adam Sandler and you met him you'd be like ah someone's Dad super normal dude Tom Hanks what I heard you said super normal that's what people say you know like cuz they ask me oh how's Scott you know seems normal so that's why that's why you're like so you're you must not know me yet that's like the best compliment for an actor yeah it is because an actor is like they well I don't know who am I to say who's normal right but to me seems like a normal guy and you said Adam sand completely normal so that's kind of puts it in perspective yeah what I mean by normal is like you could talk to them and they're really there they're real sincere they're present they're having a

32:54real conversation with you and there's a lot of people that just don't do that you talk to them and they're just putting on some hey how are you good to see you I definitely don't trust people who who are too nice I'm like why are they so nice like this this isn't right yeah sure it's just a tough world for these people anyway especially with the ones that haven't made it out here it's so psychologically devastating because you're constantly going on auditions and you're constantly getting rejected so you're insecure in the first place and then you are hoping someone likes you so you go to this thing and and and you're kind of like putting on your best behavior you're dressing good like hi pleased to meet you nice all right all right hey hey thanks guys thanks for the opportunity leave and they don't like you they're like you they said you sucked at the audition what I didn't

33:39suck yeah they just really didn't like you they said you didn't make eye contact you know people get weirder and weirder and if you meet an actor say like uh like one year and then you meet him 10 years later and they're still swinging and nothing's happening they might be like almost ready to crack yeah like thege right at that falling down with that Michael Douglas you know when he's he's got the briefcase and he goes in traffic starts shooting people like they're like a couple of days before that they're like right just on the break they can't take it anymore it's a devastating business right it's tough it's tough um but you know it like I I mean we were talking about before it's it's all it's all built on hard work and your reputation because like you said you know you get reput for being an or or you know showing up late to work or this that and the other and you know

34:32everyone's going to know about it's it's a small place LA or being a diva being a diva Diva that's a big one right that's not a good that's not a good uh adjective for you you can't shake that one yeah that happens to people like in Hollywood they'll they'll be doing a lot of big movies and you hear like oh she's difficult to work with and then they just disappear sure and it almost seems like Hollywood Delights in shutting those people out they they're rooting for you to fail yeah they kind of but when you prove to be like ungrateful in some way or you don't like like here's a perfect example Well he kind of made it on television but you remember David Caruso when David kuso was on NYPD Blue everybody was like wow this guy's a great actor and then he quit NYPD Blue and it was this massive hit show and then went and started doing like some real shitty movies and

35:21everybody was like why the would you quit a big show like NYPD BL and do a bunch of movies like boy I hope he fails and then the movies failed and then everybody's like and then and then he never did a movie again you never saw him in a good movie like he like had this trajectory of this amazing career yeah then he became this caricature because then he was doing that stupid cop show where he would take his glasses off and say some stupid pun well it looks like he got nailed and he take his glasses off remember that it was like CSI Miami or something like that and it was a caricature of a cop show whereas ntpd blue when he was on it was groundbreaking I mean it was fantastic so what happened it just he became an I don't know I mean I don't know who is he became recognized as a diva whether or not he was actually a diva I don't know the guy you'd have to

36:14meet him and talk to him and hang out with him but he had that stink and you get that stink on that's that's the other thing too is it's not even you know in Hollywood it's not even what's true sometimes it's just perceived it's so it's you know my dad used to always say he say uh believe uh half of what you see and none of what you hear and and that always stuck with me cuz you know you sit down with people in the industry or whatever and you just hear you know a lot of Hollywood is Gossip right is full of Gossip Queens everybody wants to talk about someone they worked with or tell some story and tell how difficult somebody was or this that and and you don't even you know it's a a business built on you know it's a it's just a house of cards you know you're like well that how do you even know that that even true right you know so it's kind of up uh it's you know I

37:02mean I don't feel like that happens in other businesses but maybe it does with co-workers I don't know I don't maybe it does it's also there's it's a weird thing because when you're a movie star like yourself and you're on the screen like you get all the agulation and all the love there's a whole crew of people behind you yeah there's special effects people and Lighting and Sound and it's directors and producers Jamie and young Jamie there's a hundred people to everyone that's on the screen right at least that's and so and they get no love yeah it's weird right they get no you know they get no love and and that's where the business side of the business is so delusion because you the agents and the people around it they're not the ones there you know putting in the The Sweat every day for five months to make a film you know pulling the creative ideas pulling the hard work you know the

37:54the the grips and all the all the guys who you know are underpaid and are you know working just to uh make money to you know feed their families uh so it's it's interesting because I I saw it from a very different lens I saw it from my father's lens which is you know my my dad show up on time get the movie done shoot it fast treat everybody good and and and you know work with the same people over and over again you do the right thing by people have integrity whereas it people don't see that side of of of the business there's so much other stuff that you never that people never get Lov for in in the film industry yeah well in the long hours that's another thing that people don't understand if you're on a film set like what's an average day for you oh it could be I mean a short day is a 12-hour day so it's you know 12 to 16 and how many days a week you working

38:46five six I mean when you're on location you're usually you could be in a movie that's doing a six day work week or you could be doing a 5 day but by the end everyone's doing a six sometimes s even you know you're just putting in full you're in Full Throttle to get the movie done now when you're on location do you have to squeeze a workout in to keep your brain San yeah how do you do that on a 16-hour day I try to do it during lunch uh because I find that if you go to lunch you you get sluggish after lunch and then you you're going oh well I got to get back in there you know and do this I got now I got to hit the coffee I got to get the whatever to get stimulated right that's what you're saying yeah just just are you a meth guy or a Coke guy but Mo mostly meth just just a bump to get the head straight just a little bit um but yeah so I think working out

39:37during lunch seems to be the best thing for me cuz I don't do well in the mornings for a workout cuz I feel stiff so I like to get the blood going first if I can hit it during lunch uh even if I'm on set I'll do whatever dumbbells this that and the other and then I'll have I'll get you know some endorphins kicking yeah I used to I used to do that too but now lately over the last like not even lately but over the last like five or six years I like to get up and the first thing I do work out especially like what if I was doing Jiu-Jitsu in the afternoon and I needed to do a lifting session I want as much space between the lifting and the Jiu-Jitsu as possible so I can recover so for me it's like just get up and even though I don't feel good in the morning once the Blood starts pumping and the sweat you got to just remind yourself like does yeah I know you feel like just do the few

40:27reps get that blood going and then once once you're sweating you're sweating it's all the same you know see I do I mean I do in the morning too I worked out this morning and plus math but I just that's that that helps you feel the same so I had qu so in the movie fast8 we had a lot of sleeveless shirts which I that's awesome you're a big fan of those I'm a big fan of those that's why you slid me a DM yeah I got a lot stuff going on Instagram I'm not sure about the connection he's confused right now he doesn't know what we're talking about but he'll Press On so did those guys so rock St them all the do we have to do push-ups in there to keep that pump for the for the scenes it's a very good question look everybody's I mean I think everybody wants to be on the on the you know at the tip of the spear right you know you got shirt off tank off stuff so let's

41:14you know let's get the pump on let's see that's where a guy like me I'm very very modest so if I was there I would be the opposite with your skin tight muscle bear I would try to slump Maybe hide my that's not true I saw you good posture that's one of the first thing I noticed when I walked up I said oh he really works on his posture I do I do a lot of yoga yep I do a lot of yoga very good posture he notices cam you don't even notice bro claim to be my friend never commented on my posture that was uh that was one of one of the first things when I because I got a yoga about 10 years ago and it's changed my life it's amazing right it's changed my life there's no pumping yoga there's no pumping yoga we've discussed that c just camp like sleeveless shirts and getting his pump on and it doesn't like touching his toes that's a that's a struggle I can do I can do this the knees bent but

42:06I think that's that was the one of the big first thing uh a guy told me when I was getting into it he said you really got to work on your posture he goes you're going to you know look at look at guys who are you know 90 walking around on the street who are slumped over he goes do you want to be like that and mean it it kind of got me quick I was like w tell that guy to settle the down I'm 31 years old how about you relax yeah see he he's got such a better attitude cuz I would have said worry about yourself exactly I'm used to getting critiqued online and so maybe I'm just a little defensive well these these seats that we're sitting in are the best these are these they're called Ergo Depot uh is the name of the company and it's called a capisco and what it is is they're comfortable but they make you sort of sit and support yourself with your spine whereas a lot of times people

42:52just kind of slump in chairs that's just terrible for your spine terrible pumping is terrible all that stuff's terrible and when you order put in Rogan is order and save 10 kid it's not a company sponsor how dare you he's plugging every company he's Coca-Cola Pepsi McDonald's if you if you do do yoga though like you will notice a difference in your posture and the like the lack of like back aches and pains and stuff like that everything but it's just it's hard for people because it's not necessarily fun like the results are excellent but while you're there and you're sweating your dick off and you're stretching and got to quiet your mind that's I think that's the that's the big hardest thing for people right is is is that the meditation aspect of it is is so is so hard for people to go to get out of their own way but once you do it for a while you realize you're like now

43:44I crave it I mean I can't go I can't go a few days without I go I start getting antsy and I go I got to get into yoga you know yeah it's just it's also a very pretentious thing not really but it sounds like it is like I'm going to do yoga I'm better than you I'm going to do yoga and then I'm going to have hummus yeah you know like oh I hate this guy well you know what was the thing was when I started uh 10 years ago a buddy brought me in it was 98% female now I've noticed it's like 50/50 got to go to a different class yeah there got be a reason not to go yeah like what if there's a guy in front of you and as you both bent over stand at this guy's sack like that's not what what I'm trying to say is I think that it was for for a long time it was itown yeah frowned upon right I for men to to go to yoga and I know I even had those thoughts I was saying well you know yoga

44:31I want to go hit the gym and get you know get a pump on get jacked get jacked uh but now I'm I'm going well you know you see all the benefits and everything yeah to incorporate that with the with the pump you know well for Jiu-Jitsu it's huge because range of motion is one of the most important things to Jiu-Jitsu and flexibility especially when you have a good guard yep and uh I got into yoga for the most part because of Hixon Hixon Gracie and I I I remember in 1994 I saw a video of hickon Gracie doing yoga and I was like oh cuz I was like everybody would always said that Hixon was like there was all these great Gracie family members henzo was great hyen was great all these guys were great Hal but Hixon was always thought to be number one and I was like well why why is he so much better than everybody else and then I realized like oh he's got like the full package like he has his

45:21dad is Helio Gracie so his dad was like one of The Originators of Brazilian jiu-jitsu so he grew up with it it's in his DNA he trained his whole life under the best teachers in the world and then yoga and training and exercise like Hixon does balce beams where he stands on a balce beam and does a full split standing up holds his foot over his head I mean it's freaky to watch he's just got incredible control of his body so the dexterity and the control of the body along with the strength and Jiu-Jitsu like that's what made Hixon who he is you know sure it's it's just it's again it's of those things is not as cool as telling someone you deadlift 600 lb right you know you what are you doing I'm doing deadlifting 605 I do 605 for three you know everybody's like watch that yeah I put chains on it cuz it's not hard enough yeah that that kind of stuff is but that's GNA that's going

46:12to catch up at the end at the end of your life you know that's that stuff you know it's if you're not careful you too much of that I feel like it's really going to cause a lot of pain in your later life it can but if you just do yoga you look like a like a monk of course no you got the too got to get jacked as well it's a little bit I don't know I mean depends on what you're trying to do but but I agree with you that it does give you a calming thing it calms you down her way yeah and I think but there's pixon look at that picture man him on the beach wow I can't I can't do that oh he's unbelievably flexible you got to get into it you got to do it yeah I mean Hixon mean there's just not a whole lot of human beings that can do that but forget about like world class black belt yeah yeah he's a freak man combination okay wait so I got to go back to the Fanboy stuff so I just want to

47:06ask so that's so there's a you started off acting with like smaller movies right sure but now you've been and and tell me if I'm I know you were in Fury yeah I didn't remember until that's started to know who you were what's Fury Fury was with Brad Pit right which one was that World War II David aie that's right and then now it feels like you now you're in the the big movies well look I started 14 15 almost 15 years ago now uh doing it it's hysterical when people I first sort of got a couple hit movies happen oh overnight success yeah I always what the you talking about I've been at it for 10 years you know at that point um but you know I started yeah doing a tiny oneliner right you know any chance I got just to just to you know get on Set uh uh play any any any role do any lines whatever just learn soak it up and uh yeah I was doing that for years I mean I was doing that

48:04for seven eight years you know while I was bartending uh while I was you know Valley parting cars anything to you know pay pay the bills right but how important is that that you actually worked your way through it even though you're Clint Ewood son right that's what that's what I was interested in is that I mean it's like it didn't feel like he helped you and I don't know maybe he did but no no if you anyone who knows my dad uh would just laugh if they you know there they would say oh yeah I mean my dad's very old school and he's he's very very tough on his sons have an older brother um and it's it just doesn't happen like that in our family uh there's no handouts H you want something you got to go get it and I can't thank him enough for that because it never gave me any uh you know backup it it didn't it it didn't make me go well I can just sort of sit around or you know

48:55it created Drive created you know hard work and drive and those are all the things that take to make somebody successful yeah like if you were 22 and he made you a star of his big movie that would prob that would have looked it would have looked it would looked really bad on him yeah it would look weird you know so and you yeah I mean he could do that I guess when in his movie but I think the common thing is well you had you know had it easy cuz you know somebody else he can't just pick up a phone and call some big director and tell him who he should cast and if he did it would be a mess yeah it would be I mean a and director probably tell him you know thank you Clint but I not doing that you know this is my movie and I don't even know who your son is when he went when he went on TV and did that like thing where he had uh a like a seat next to him and he talked to Obama

49:43you talk to the empty chair did you call him up and dad go what the dad what are you doing no I stay out of politics I I don't even I don't I don't give two shits about politics I just that wasn't even politics that was just like a play you like a yeah like a puppet show with no puppet yeah I I did like the intent though yeah cuz I hate well whatever yeah it was I was good with it I get it but hey Restraint of tongue and Pen hey uh so didn't you try out or I I don't even know how but didn't you audition audition thison this isn't my wheelhouse but for American Sniper I did that was that was his movie right that was his movie how'd that go what happened uh yeah I you know I auditioned and you know I remember actually talking I knew Bradley Cooper and I said hey you know what I'd love to play your BR I read the script I'd read the script and you know

50:37I was already doing my own thing at this point I was you know working for a long time but i' go in periodically and audition for his films yeah uh because they're Clint Eastwood films if I can get an opportunity to audition great and then you know when I said that I'd love to play your brother in it or something you know one of those roles and he Bradley kind of looked at me like uh you know I don't yeah maybe okay okay cool kind of brush your aor I was friends with them and then so you know I sort of you know said hey you know can I get an audition to to you know go audition for this uh through my dad's company and so I went and put myself on tape uh it's pretty simple when you go audition for him he's not he's not there no one's there or anything you just go put yourself on tape with a casting director okay and then you know you either you hear some back or you don't yeah and

51:19that's sort of the that's the end of it and a lot of times you never do I mean that's that's how it goes for actors yeah so that's what happened with that you put it on tape and then didn't hear back yeah no you didn't say what what Dad was no it didn't work like that in my family really n he's he's too old as SCH I would never even dare to bring up something like that interesting yeah that's I mean that's probably why he so normal like yeah because look those people that are in those sheltered families where yeah it's not good it's not good it's not good for you no it you know you don't have the value for a dollar the value for hard work you don't have everything becomes blurred you know I think that's the same way with inheritance mean it's it's very rare that someone inherits a shitload of money early on in life and then winds up having character and being they say that

52:08Donald Trump is like that that he's a cool guy like everybody I know that's met him I know he gets a lot of weird press but the guys that I know that know him say he's a really nice guy really down toe really normal really healthy and I've heard that about a lot of Trump's kids which is really strange cuz he like he's this crazy you know I'm the best I do the best things my ratings are the best but you would think that he would be like this Dicky dad but apparently he's done a great job as a dad which is very strange you know yeah but that's what I hear about Donald Trump Jr yeah that's I've heard that too and he Bohan so he's got to be cool he's got that going maybe that's why he's cool I mean maybe that that's probably it I mean it might have something to do with it for real like just all those experiences in the wild well no and we just today so we've shot a lot of air I

52:53mean I've been doing this for 30 years you've been doing this for years now and still it's so humbling yeah I there's you know it's not easy making a good shot yeah every now and then one goes right into the neck of the Target and you're like what the I've been doing this all day and one just just goes wrong you talk about ego checks I mean anytime you think you're good at archery for sure there's a there's a wakeup call yeah I mean it it is not easy yeah it's not an easy thing to do and then also it's like waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting stalking stalking stalking with and then all of a sudden here comes the time ready get ready pull shot now is it really happening is it really and then you have to execute a great shot under this insane have you have you done bow hunting yet yep what have you bow hunted uh deer have you been successful I have

53:44that's a nice thing huh yeah what what kind uh Blacktail what you white in California oh okay nice um and it's it is like very it's very uh like you said it's it's totally in the pocket all of a sudden it's now an adrenaline adrenaline and then you're you know it's over because you either missed a shot or you you know you didn't take it and you're like you know what they say cam that there's a direct correlation between lower heart rate and good archery that that there's actually been studies done you know like in in these European circles where there are Target archers and one of the things they found to improve uh Dudley was talking about this on his podcast knock on on his podcast he was talking about um that running in particular is is really good at uh lowering your heart rate obviously but then also the the side effect of that is it improves archery and improves your

54:37ability Under Pressure to keep your heart rate down cuz your heart rate is naturally lower right you know like your your resting heart rate's got to be stupid low like what is it I don't know 40s 40s wow yeah so I thought mine was good in the like you know 55 or something that's crazy yeah you know what Michael Bisping is 34 yeah jeez yeah most good marathon runners are low 40s you know upper 30s yeah so when you have that going for you like say if your heart rate gets jacked up and you calm it down you're probably still going to be like whenin the 60s or 70s whereas a guy who's like some Bubba with some big sloppy gut and you know and he's taking rip fuel just so he can get up the top of the mountain when he gets up there and sees something he's he's tired he's winded heart rate already jacked and it's harder to execute a good shot under those conditions yeah and I mean just

55:32like with running and exercising you recover faster the better shape you're in so yeah that's kind of why I mean it can go it can Peak but then it's back low normal and then you're more composed so I mean you know it takes a while for those guys to recover if they're not in shape after all my years of exercising I've just started running and wow we're running today we're running today we're running the trails today after this I'm going to keep I'm trying to keep up with trying to keep up with him ridiculous that's crazy yeah not for me buddy it's like doing Jiu-Jitsu with Hixon you know you're going to get killed just go out there and do it don't be a how many miles are you guys going to do today probably 20 or 30 if if he can make that I mean just kidding you're kidding got weird shes on but honestly seriously if you're training for you know 230 M how

56:18many do you do a day yeah you can't do a marathon every day right you kill yourself he was doing half marathon every day yeah at least you know there's there's days or I mean there's weeks getting ready for the Bigfoot that I ran 130 140 Mi so that's almost 20 m a day and the Bigfoot it's 205 miles mhm over 7 what' you do 78 hours 7856 did you see that uh ultramarathon guy who finished 6 seconds past the the deadline oh Barkley at the Barkley Marathon yeah he up took a detour no I know that that race they've been sending me messages and they they tagged I don't know if it was both of us but the other day on I did a tweet somebody mentioned my name for it and so the race actually tweeted and said that I wouldn't be able to finish because I'd be I'd want to get up in a tree stand and kill some of the wild pigs running around a lot of pigs yeah apparently I

57:13didn't know this but so that Barkley Marathon itself tweeted that so where is it Tennessee oh yeah that's that place is infested apparently yeah Tennessee so it's uh and I God there's a whole story behind and I wish I knew it cuz I'm going to sound stupid but there's a prison there and I can't remember who was in the prison some famous criminal killed somebody or tried to kill somebody anyway escaped and he made it uh was out for 55 hours something like that made it just eight miles and and they got him so that's how kind of how the race originated there's a there's a story behind it so the race is there around that prison in that in that same country and so the goal the time limit is something around that 55 hours and that's you have five Loops you go one one way first Loop opposite opposite opposite and you have and the course isn't marked so you're navigating with

58:08the map that you have to create yourself and to get the checkpoints there's books there at every checkpoint and you have a certain number of the page and they say you go and pull out page 12 of every book this is how it works and then you bring it back to make sure and they check you when you get get the lap completed and said okay you you he hit every checkpoint here's all the pages of those books and then you do another lap but what if you run with some douchebag who's like page three I'm pulling his page out too page seven could suck my ass just starts pulling people's Pages out I don't I you know there's there's honor and and if somebody working that hard usually don't have to worry they respect other people working that hard too you know what I mean it's just kind of the the thing yeah the C hon system the culture of it yeah so I mean I wouldn't worry about something

58:58like that but it sounds like a brutal race I think only it might be up to 15 people now have completed it in 25 years whoa it's tough and this guy missed it by 6 seconds yeah Jesus Christ cuz he up and made a an error in his path something happened and I and I can't I don't I didn't read the whole story but yeah so you have to do it inside of 60 hours is that what it is something like that yeah and 6 seconds or something like that says he uh when he was going around the race he found he came to a staircase and there's no staircases in the marathon so he's he knew he up then oh okay oh boy he was a super sleep deprived he knew he made a wrong turn yeah he was 2 miles from the end of the race wow and there's no there's no course so you just run in the woods yeah Jesus Christ sounds ridiculous so they have the map up there the toppo map up there and you

59:54create your own map off that map and you can't use a map you can't use a phone you can't use a GPS so there's navigating is part of this thing when are you doing it I want to do it I know you do you I can tell yeah to to get entered is that's a whole process in itself you have to send like a letter and a147 something like that into the race director and they they select who they want in there and then you have to bring a license plate from your house from your home state and like a shirt to the guy and then you're in wow so it's there's I mean a lot of crazy I don't know it's kind it's just bring him a shirt can you give him a keep hammer and shirt or does it have to be a specific shirt I think I think he chooses I don't know I I I need to I watch the documentary but I don't remember every detail are you doing some really nutty one soon uh well I need to talk to to uh

60:50Candace about it the race director of the Bigfoot she's putting on um the Moab uh it's it's a two 234 mile race this will be the first one it's the long longest one there is so you're going to do what you did the Bigfoot 200 which is 205 miles and then you're going to do another 29 miles yeah that's ridiculous that's what I I need to run a buyer I mean we it was successful last time we got um you a lot of people followed along which is what what we wanted you know cuz when you were running yeah yeah um with the live tracking and it was cool because that the the race is so special and she's so special as far as her passion for this and and um creating these opportunities for people to really test themselves and she was on your podcast yeah yeah I'm a big fan of hers what's her last name Candace Bert and the key pameron number what what you remember which number was it four or

61:43five was it I'm not sure okay people will find it yeah no it was good though CU she's super super cool and so she's putting on this new one in Moab and it's you know further than any other race and so I want do it but there it is race number three Moab 200 yeah why do they call them 200s when they're 234 I don't know that's what I it's like the Bigfoot thing called Bigfoot 205 godamn it 205 miles I feel like I feel like 34 miles is a little too far just to round down it's a weird number I mean I mean let's ring to it 200 the the how about the Moab 250 that's closer if you're going round I like that I like that it's better sounds better just yeah it's a 234. three and if you run 234 miles an extra 16 probably just like who cares yeah I'm already dead it's a long way just run it's a lot but look at that country doesn't that look beautiful it does but it's going to be in July isn't

62:39it no no uh October oh okay so that's not bad you'll be fairly cool now you were saying that when you do one of these things you don't sleep no like you slept like maybe an hour a couple of times yeah and and that's how you know if you want to win um the guy who won Richard total Beast um I was asking how long cuz my goal was to win you know I I didn't achieve my goal my goal was to I wanted to get the fastest ever so I came up short on that but what time what place did you place I finished eighth yeah so I was winning through 62 miles I think and Richard passed me Richard oh he's he's a stud but uh I was asking I'm like how long had he been sleeping you know at these Che points and they said 15 minutes I'm like what so I like so I I decided I wasn't going to sleep until I got 100 miles down I wanted to get at least halfway done so got to 100 slept for about an hour and

63:38got up and then I ended up sleeping for 3 hours total over the the 78 hours so you sleep about an hour a day if you want to if your hope is to compete to win or to uh you know Place High like like I wanted to Jesus Christ you just can't sleep you don't have any interest in doing that no yesterday I said absolutely no way yeah tastes a a rare kind of C it's just you know you know what it's just like it's a different type of test just to see what you're capable of yeah I get it I get it I get it I'm just not that into running do you run at all uh like this morning I got I ran the treadmill before I hit the weights but just to warm up because there was nothing in the the gym I was at but not really you can go with us maybe I'll come with you guys I run let's run to Conan can we run to um uh con You' be breathing break dust all that terrible all that crap I say we run there and then shoot

64:38bows there oh yeah yeah this is what we really should be concentrating on isn't he like 10 foot tall he's a big guy very T guy six seven or super nice guy is he yeah yeah very nice guy yeah you went when somebody was on his show you like went with them right sturg sturg yeah yeah yeah yeah I went and hang out with him down there didn't he did he won a Grammy yeah this year yeah he won a Grammy yeah that's awesome he's a he's another guy that's like a super famous super successful guy that you would never know if you met him just as normal as they get yeah working on a a railroad car like he was uh working for uh a train company just like a a couple of years before he made it his wife talked him into doing music she was like you know you don't suck at this well that's what shocked me about when I Cameron we came out in the conversation he's still working for uh uh your

65:32utility utility company mean you're a professional Hunter and and I was like you do all this great stuff I follow you what do you mean and he's like yeah I still have this other job and I'm like wow I was like super you know I was a lot of respect for I've been trying to get him to quit forever we have more time how many times I try to get you to quit today about about 10 today he's like let's go to Hawaii we can hunt there they got all sorts of aess De yeah it's gonna be awesome so that's in June I'm going and I'm trying to drag him along like I have to quit my job I'm like good we killed two birds with one stone I know so it's like yeah you're gonna go with like Shane Dorian or something yeah Shane's gonna be down there my friend Remy Warren's gonna be down there John Dudley's gonna be down there she be a gay old time hey you got an extra spot you want to go for real

66:23I'll see if we can make something happen I'll see if we can make something happen I'll find out what's going on but apparently uh lenai in particular well they say Maui uh Remy Warren just got back from Maui Mau on the south side yeah they' been a lot down there yeah so have you hunted there too no never where have you hunted in South here mostly in uh the Southern California area but uh you when you uh were hunting were you still hunting spot and stock like how what are you doing no just just knowing the areas with with you know a friend who who knew the areas and walking and you know uh flushing them out and you were doing it with that Ross bow why you laughing there's nothing wrong with that he's just a little bit self-conscious about the Ross nothing wrong with it man that thing's that thing was a good Buble hey it killed a deer apparently yeah so well now that you have a hoit though

67:17yeah that thing's like the most balanced I mean you feel immediately when you they're so good those new ones are so good it's so crazy because the first one cam ever got me was only four years ago and you would think like wow that's you know that's pretty recent but and it was awesome at the time but if you had to go back to it today be like oh this piece of like this thing it's like not really but bow technology just keeps increasing every year they get a little better a little bit better yeah sure and you might not know I mean cuz I always say it's was like oh I don't I try not to be the guy who's like oh this is the best thing I've ever shot but it's slightly better and as we know in hunting that that there's a fine line between success and Fa failure so that's slightly better might be the difference yeah you know a lot more um an amateur in comparison and and I don't I don't

68:05want to I did beat him I did did outshoot him couple times yesterday did you really wait a couple times he's like you taking a liberty liberty there I remember a time well that is the beautiful thing about archery is that there really is no perfection in archery I mean you can get a perfect shot but to be perfect every time you shoot is never been done really no well I will say by the end of the day we were out there in the parking lot of Riverside archery we had a 46 yard shot and Scott was laying him in there I mean nice tight group we were shooting three arrows at a time I mean so and that's just in in a day with that new bow that new bow yeah D we were Cam and I were talking about this today if people knew how good it feels to like steady yourself anchor like look look through that peep site breathe release that arrow and watch it right where you're it's the best

69:02feeling it feels so good well we we filmed today and so I took a shot 61 yards with that with my big old heavy arrow and I shot and I like run up to the to the binoculars and I look and it was a perfect shot and I was like so excited like the first time I ever shot a bow and that was not that's just how fun it is this is how excited I still get and we're just and people I told Joe I said if people knew this or I mean they're going to watch this and go I want to do that that looks awesome if you're after 30 years you're getting this excited it's just we I we were talking about this today and I want to bring this up and I think Hoy should do this the big entry barrier in in learning archery is having someone teach you and like going somewhere and not knowing how to get started like once you get started and you say oh I'm a 28 in draw oh I like a 450 grain arrow and you

69:55know all the stuff that you need then it's it becomes easier to sort of do but the beginning it's so daunting and confusing the learning curve is so long they should have like hoit should have a hoit Academy where a place you can go where you could buy a bow they size you they fit you up to the correct draw length and then you sign up for a class and there's a teacher and they show you how to do it if there was something like that whereas like you know you can go take karate somewhere you could take Jiu-Jitsu somewhere go try to take archery somewhere not a lot of places and if they are you know like the first place that I went to was a little sketchy you know they weren't they didn't really you know my draw length was too long the it's good Pro Shops are hard to find I mean I I'm lucky with the B rack back home um and Wayne does that Wayne takes takes he

70:44teaches them right he coaches them and uh seemed like Riverside archery was that Chris there um he's a nice guy oh to and totally knows archery too so but those might unique examples because there's a lot of Pro Shops I mean this guy who works with Thor telling me about his Pro Shop back home um they like were almost making fun of him his his actually not him but his cousin was in there trying to get set up with a bow and just like we making fun of him why cuz he's he didn't know oh he didn't know it just like I so you never know what you're going to get you know there's all sorts of different type of people out there I was I pulled up to the hotel uh to come up to La like some press and uh I open up the hotel of the hotel B and I opened up the door of my truck and all all the field tips come out oh and everyone like the bellman's looking at me going what the are

71:38you doing with two compound bows in the car right in La yeah yeah they don't know how to handle that yeah if you were in Cam's neighborhood they' be like oh you bow hunting yeah out here they're like HRA what is this guy doing yeah he's going to kill somebody probably right or or you're a big Walking Dead fan yeah yeah that show drives me crazy when those arrows just stick in those zombie heads I'm like why do they just stick how come there's no passrs yeah you know and that's uh on fighter and the kid yesterday we they're asking about that they're like what would an eror do Would It Go halfway in like in the movies and I'm like it wouldn't even SL you wouldn't even feel it slow down it'd be like and I told him about the we put up this bear clip Joe before we I think before we realize the Venom that will come out of of bear hunting but Joe retweeted the video of This Bear stood

72:29up and was grabbing this Beaver up there and I shot it and we had a GoPro on the back side of it and the arrow went through the bear came out the backside and it was just like didn't even slow down no I mean and just kind of all the stuff kind of came out with the arrow it was just like what was the sound that was it that's that's a sound the arrow made going through the it blast through the Bear's body and then the bear went on a full Sprint yeah you know P like almost right where you guys were just slightly off to your right this bear goes when if you've never seen a bear Sprint before like when you see them Lumber around you go oh well I kind of get an idea what that thing can do you know that thing is like usan bolt when you threw an arrow through it right and that so that a 400 lb bear so you could imagine what you know Brian was asking about what is he

73:19160 lb something like that he's about 110 maybe 106 somewhere around there but anyway I told him I said yeah these bows wouldn't even slow down you wouldn't even know what I mean you would be too late it would go through you and then you wouldd go what just said oh why am I yeah why do I see Grandpa yeah so Walking Dead Grandpa Grandpa's reaching out holding your hand I missed that one skateboard through the clouds but yeah so with the with The Walking Dead you they got some rotten zombie head and the arrows are just sticking in it speaking of near-death experience I wanted to ask you this cuz I listen to your podcast a lot and I know you talk about U DMT and you know some of the stuff you see when you know like it produces in your mind or you produce it in your body right uh is that the chemical that you release like when you die or when you have like

74:10a near-death experience they believe so here's here's the here's the the deal they didn't know for sure until really recently that it was even produced by the pineal gland now that they know there's a the guy named uh is produced by guy named Rick strasman Dr Rick strasman out of the University of New Mexico and he p uh put together these clinical trials that were the first ever FDA approved clinical trials on a psychedelic drug first ever on DMT and they were done in uh New Mexico and he did them and he wrote a book about it called DMT The Spirit Molecule and one of the things that he found it's a great book and one of the things he found really fascinating and I read the book before I ever did DMT the thing that he found really fascinating was that these people had these uniform experiences yeah it wasn't like one person saw this thing and then another had a totally

74:59different trip no they all had like fairly uniform experiences and here's the other thing that's really fascinating their experiences in many ways mirror the experiences of people that have been abducted by aliens and people that have near-death experiences and the connection they think is that the brain produces this chemical called dimethyl tryptamine and we know that it's produced by the liver we know it's produced by the lungs and then in eastern m I ISM it would always thought that the pineal gland was the seed of the soul that it was the the the third eye that and literally in reptiles is it has a retina and a cornea it actually it's like literally an eyeball in the center of your head and in the the Vatican there's a gigantic sculpture of a pine cone in the Vatican and that pine cone is supposed to represent the pineal gland see if you can get a photo of that

75:51gigantic pine cone and I was actually in the Vatican last summer and I had a conversation with a guide we had this really cool guy who was a professor who's explaining to us all the different stuff that you know it's all the different symbolisms and what they mean and um they've there Eastern mysticism and a lot of ancient religions have always been focused heavily focused on the pine cone and pineal gland and that is what that's supposed to represent that that gigantic pine cone in the middle of I hear there's something now like people smoke pine cone or there's something people people yeah there's some people smoke socks if you give them to them some people I heard I heard that I mean heard that now that there's some sort of cuz DMT is like plant right plant-based right that is the thing is that the DMT doesn't just exist in one plant it exists in thousands of different plants

76:45sure that's why they have iasa and when iasa is is an orally active DMT so DMT normally when you eat it your body produces something in your digest digestive tract called monoamine oxidase that blocks it right yeah and so what iasa is is DMT from one plant and an MAO inhibitor from another plant and they combine it together and they create an orally active DMT because otherwise you'd just be tripping every time you eat a salad like you you you get some wheat grass juice you chip your balls off but your body keeps that from happening got but the purpose of that DMT and what it does in human neurochemistry is not really understood that well but what they do know now because of Rick stasen and the work of the Cottonwood Research Foundation which is a foundation that's dedicated to exploring these subjects they've found that in live rats rats are mice I forget

77:40which one that they've proven that their pineal gland is producing diot triamine which is what they've always it's always been anecdotal evidence so now they know that it's not just produced by the liver and the lungs but it's also produced by this little gland and the this little gland they think during near-death experiences and during heavy REM sleep it's producing DMT how much they don't really know because they would have to get in there and they'd have to somehow or another figure out a way to measure it while you're alive they haven't figured out how to do that yet cuz it's in the center of your head they'd have to drill in there and tap it and who knows how the they could do that with today's technology but maybe someday in the future they'll be able to figure that out no I've been I mean I've been fascinated by it uh ever since listening to you talk about it and then

78:25watching your documentary on it DMT The Spirit Molecule molecule that was all based on strassman's work yeah yeah so I mean it's it's crazy I mean I tried it one time and it was it was you know it was unlike anything for the 10 minutes I've ever experienced in my entire life um and so it was you know after that I obviously read all the stuff try to you know and what's interesting is I think no one will probably ever know you do it oh no I just mean what what like what there's something there's a phenomenon happening that we just as humans can't possibly understand and maybe we'll never understand In Our Lifetime well you know there's two different ways of looking at it one is that it's a a human neurochemistry um and that there a chemical that it's just producing these crazy visuals and it's just all the meaning that you attach to it is just your own and then the other way of

79:12looking at it is it's some sort of a chemical Gateway into the Afterlife and that what you're seeing is like The Souls of these people that have lived before and all the people that have ever lived like a sea of Souls and I don't know what who's right or who's wrong but it's impossible to describe like you describe it it's just like you're just throwing words around just it doesn't doesn't work yeah you know and it's produced by your own body that's the weirdest thing like everybody has it like Terence McKenna used to do a joke about it he said everybody's holding it's a schedule one compound but everybody tests positive for it it's it's a it's illegal but you have is it illegal like how how do they how do they decide whe it's going to be illegal if it's PL you know if it's a plant-based the plants that all contain it are all legal they're all they are all legal and

80:01then it's illegal but it's in all these legal plants but it's in thousands of plants that's part of the problem it's like you can have a San Pedro cactus and keep it in your house and everybody's like what's that like oh it's pretty Cactus uh yeah but it's also there's drugs in that Cactus I mean that's that's where musculin comes from comes from that you I know anything about it yeah trip your balls off from a Cactus that's crazy yeah that's crazy I mean when the Peyote rituals that's from a cactus that's a San Pedro cactus is This MC the same thing as peot I think so think I think see if you can Google that Jamie P I believe that peyote and masculine or that's the slang or something for it is it yeah masculine is occurs naturally in the Peyote Cactus yeah so you could have that cactus in your house and you're basically a drug dealer but meanwhile you're not you're a

80:52little old lady who enjoy succulents you know like oh it's such a pretty Cactus I love it I can go out of town for a week and come back and it's fine yeah so that's a really cool looking cactus that people keep in their yard all the time in LA like one of the things in LA because of the the drought that we have for so many years until this year which is awesome everything looks like New Zealand out there now yeah it's it is nice but people would have these uh hardscapes in their their yards where they have just have rocks and and succulents and Cactus so there's a lot of people that have those cactuses that Cactus you could go meet Jesus with that Cactus have you done it no peye no I've never done peyote yeah that seems uh seems like a it's long time though right I think it's it's one of the longer ones I think I think it's a few hours but so is aasa you know I've never haven't done

81:40that either I've only done the D the what DMT is like a shorter more potent form of it yeah but I've done it several times over the course of an evening where it's like been like a couple hour experience do you feel like it's I obviously you know people who have done it they know it's just like it's not something that you're doing recreationally it's something that's like okay you do this this one time it's or or you know a couple times it's not like you're out going to the club oh no you know what I mean it's a very spiritual sort of thing you do that word spiritual is so beaten down it's one of those words that I don't even like to use okay cuz it's you know what I mean it's like like so many people are like I'm not religious but I'm spiritual like it almost seems like you know what I mean it seems like I got a spiritual gangster show I'm about to throw away as

82:24soon as I get home Joe Rogan say it's not cool well it's not that it's not cool it's just it's kind of been co-opted by nonsense sure you know and not even nonsense intentionally I mean people say that they like they'll say things and they don't mean anything it's not that they they're lying or they're being deceptive it's just that it's such a problematic word no yeah what I what I mean I guess I can say better is is uh it's it's a experience that you know is something that's very powerful you want yeah it's profound and and you you want to sort of do it and and talk about it and have a collective sort of discussion about it you know yeah and it's also there's also a real problem with perception especially amongst people that haven't experienced psychedelic drugs that when you say the word drug or you say psychedelic compounds maybe because when you say the

83:14word drug people automatically have in their head oh you're a weak person you're trying to hide from reality you know you're trying to Shield yourself you're just trying to get high and just lay around like uh I don't I don't even want to be here man it's couldn't be further from the truth it's like one of the most self-exploratory opening and deeply disturbing in its profound and Powerful effects it's it's very shocking and you leave it once it's over you you're a different person man now that you just now that you know that that's a real possibility you're going to be a different person yeah maybe I was maybe you won't I mean it's it all I mean it depends on where how you're coming into it and then what kind of defense mechanisms you have what kind of ego you have whether or not you can just realize like now that you've seen this you know that life will never be the same again

84:06you're you're always going to know that that's a possibility that you can smoke this Crystal powder that's extracted from P from plants and when you smoke it you're transported to a world of love and understanding and geometric patterns of infinite description to the point where like you can't even describe you don't you don't even know what you're looking at why you're looking at it it's just so beyond like lifts the veil from what we think is reality yeah and it might be Heaven it might be the afterlife it really might be it might there might be a reason why people think that heaven is filled with ultimate love it's because people have had near-death experiences and they've come back with these stories and during those near-death experiences it's entirely possible not just speculative not just like it might absolutely be that your brain is producing this dimethyl

84:56tryptamine that it already produces in high doses and that's what it's there for we don't know you know sure but you've done it yep yeah a lot of people have done it now like more more people than ever it's crazy in history for sure for sure more people listening to this now have experienced DMT than probably at any time in human history and yeah I tell people when they ask you know I said you know if you haven't done it you should do it because it's it's mind opening you know you go well okay you realize it's humbling I think too you there's a lot we don't understand that's happening and then we may never understand and and to be so closed-minded to think we know One path or the other what's the right thing or the wrong thing arrogant it's very ego shattering it's very ego shattering and it also once you know that that's possible it's like how is that possible how is it

85:46possible that you're just 30 seconds away from that at any time I know it's crazy yeah yeah never experienced it no no I can't I get drug tested at work he drinks Miller Light though I don't think it's even uh that wouldn't even come up on a drug test like plant-based right I mean that would it wouldn't come up at your your body tests positive for it always cuz you have it in your system okay let's do it where is it it's back home just kidding we got to go into a vault Michael bis is going to get mad at us why he was mad that you're were talking about smoking pot all the time really when couple days ago for real mhm why was he mad at that I don't know it's silly why would anybody be mad at that pots awesome settle down Mike he he talks about drinking beer all the time Mike's always drunk like they did this whole thing where he's talking about being in Vegas

86:33and you know he was uh talking to GSP and GSP is like you're drunk he goes of course I'm drunk I'm in Vegas he goes I just got here I was drinking last night he said he doesn't put up all the time that he's drinking beer did you see this Jamie why can't GSP why can't GSP uh no bisb oh but go ahead you're talking about GSP no well no Bisping was drunk oh okay and he and GSP called him out on it like he said like you you you smell like alcohol he's like yeah I was drinking all night the wrong with you I'm in Vegas okay well why would Bisping be upset that I talk about beer or I talk about pot when he's always talking about beer that's silly maybe that's not true where you you sure Jamie you find that Jamie's gonna find it he was talking about you and uh probably just making fun of me you and Diaz Nick Diaz he's probably trying to get a fight with Nick Diaz that's probably what it

87:22is maybe maybe it's angin for I figured you would have seen it no I love Michael I I think he's a bad yeah that guy's tough as man can't even see out of one eye I know he got one eye that's all up they filled it they did an operation on it and then filled it up with oil so that um it doesn't the the retina doesn't rupture again when uh so he's fighting GSP when is that do we know when they do not have a date they're trying to figure it out but bisbing has said that if GSP can't make it by July he'll fight somebody else H so he might fight y r Michael Bisping blast Joe Rogan and Nick Diaz for positively promoting cannabis told you blast but that might not be real like you know by saying blasts you'd have to hear like what he actually said I can't tell what it's from it does he say it's all clickbait nowaday anyway you might have just seen that it might have literally been ah he's probably

88:14hanging out with Joe Rogan you know one those did you see that uh that 60 Minutes on uh and all the you know I know this word's a topical fake news or whatever you see that minutes on it oh yeah I mean you know like that that word's sort of popular now because I think I don't know if some people have said it and you know popular but it's it's a it's amazing now all the people profiting on it it really showcases you check out the 60 Minutes on incred we've had it do you remember the you saved me from a bear attack oh yeah there was there was yeah no I got attacked by a bear Joe shot the bear and there's a whole article oh yeah yeah that was all it was I got one that said I killed a mountain line with my belt that's right at Ice House in Pasadena right yeah do do I mean what what do what do you think about that you think that it's it's a I mean all that stuff is pretty do you think there

89:10should be controls over it like just outside of being you know the FCC being able to like sue people or whatever that never really happens it feels like do you think that it should I don't know because then there's like things like the onion it's like when draw the line cuz the onion is hilarious so they'll make like a subtle parody of something and make it completely Preposterous right and then like pull up a good example of an onion headline it's like the onion onion do you don't know what the onion is the onion is a famous parody news site where they make stories that just if you're smart you read it you go what like Stephen coar or something he he's making a parity on it yeah yeah in a way yeah yeah and most of them are pretty humorous but occasionally people will tweet me with like an onion story and like can you believe this man it's getting out of control and then

90:01you read it and you go dummy this is this is comedy they're writing people don't have common sense so that's a problem with that clickbait stuff is they believe it because they don't they can't read it and be like Ah that's probably whatever it's just like they believe everything yeah but I mean isn't that the case with like Cults and the Moonies and Scientology and like there's a lot of nonsense that people believe in it's it's not hard to get people to believe in it's a good question like what do we do about it do you leave it up to Common Sense which isn't very common today not or do you do you step in yeah rookie Justice gor such how do you say his name assigned to Supreme Court overnight shift it's a joke see because he's a new Supreme Court guy and they're giving him the shitty gig see that's not real but if somebody read that they're like this is these

90:47liberals they're just because he's a conservative they're putting it put him on the night shift there's no night shift man tries using pink six PB bowling ball to Great Amusement that's not real either you see like it's like what they do they write these articles that are comedy but they fake they pose as news which is a little I think it's different cuz right if you have you know if you're fiction and you're posing as as real news yeah it's like where do you where you know if obviously like there's no more journalistic Integrity it feels it feels like there C there's some there's some there some there are some it just feels like there's a you know it's how do you how do you know how do you how do you you know you read the news uh you're misinformed you don't read it you're misinformed you're not informed you're just like you know what do you do so have you been the topic of

91:41something oh I mean no there's I mean there's been fake stuff about me for sure oh you that's like I said my dad say believe half what you see and none of what you hear you know I always laugh cuz there always some silly thing my friends will come to me and say hey do you really do this no I didn't do that I there a ton of fake stuff out there there's a ton of fake stuff I'm sure there's a ton of stuff about you oh yeah yeah I just one recently I disarmed a guy at The Comedy Store some guy had a gun and I disarmed him my buddy of mine was a cop said hey man congratulations on that to do I'm like what job good job what did I do you save people you save people's lives but you can ruin someone's life you know in a second you know if some someone they said the wrong word some you know someone says he uh you they all they got to throw is allegedly or something and

92:22they allegedly rape some or something you know they ruined some poor guy's life uh you know reputation just out the out the window well that's what they've always been able to do with those Supermarket tabloids say allegedly from a source a source tells us that cam hannes likes to you know be careful here exactly you know what I'm saying but yeah you don't have to do much more than that and you kind of cover your ass and you say I have to protect my sources I have First Amendment right and it is it's a weird time it's a weird time because because essentially the boundaries to publication have been dissolved it used to be that you had to work for the New York Times or the Washington Post or a newspaper whatever now you just all you need is a blog or a Facebook page and you're breaking news you know and you just Scott Eastwood admits to you know wearing women's clothes while he hunts

93:11for deer that's going to be aw Larry Larry D Larry David Larry David I wear women's underwear that's one of the best lines it's strange it is definitely you're right it's definitely strange but I mean but who's to decide I mean I know they're trying to work on some ways to figure it out I know Facebook is working on some different ways to block fake news but who's to decide what's fake and what's real and who's to decide where it becomes parody when is it funny like when is it the onion when it's pretty subtle and when is it just like some guy making up a story about you me saving you from a bear attack and it's weird I know I I don't sweat it a tough one yeah not really not really concerned yeah yo yeah look I mean I'll sleep all at night I'll be okay but uh it's a weird sign of the times the times are weird we we are have weird times this the ability to communicate where anybody can do

94:06anything at any time and everybody could find out about it like you could write something on your Twitter page just publish it and then it gets to the right amount of people and then they share it and then all a sudden a million people have seen it inside of an hour and that's never no it's crazy but it's p it's it's good too I mean we've used that to for our benefit that's what you do all the time that's what I do a voice I mean it's this made you have a voice or me have a voice you know you've always had one but me me have one and so it's it's an amazing time too well even my voice is way different now like having a podcast and that's M much in a lot of ways the same thing because it's just I mean this is a pretty lean operation obviously just a I was surprised just a um a computer you know a Jamie to figure it out and then we talk and then you upload it that's it there's not a

94:59whole lot of steps and yet this will probably get 5 million downloads you know maybe even more so it's weird yeah it's weird in that sense that it can reach so many different people and then it's there's there's no Corporation behind it there's no Washington Post so we could just sit here and just make up a bunch of fake and just be really adamant that this really happened and you know a lot of people are going to believe it and how could could someone stop you from doing that I don't know if they could you know as long as you're not slandering anybody and you're not getting sued so I did want so what's your prediction if uh if bisbing and GSP fight very interesting fight because bis bisbing has been a a a battler a warrior for a long time he's been very active and he's he's very he's a very like well honed machine right now whereas gsb's been out of the loop for a solid 3 years

95:50no competition at all however he's been training the entire time yeah so B GSP is not a guy who sits around and and gets fat and gets nothing done no he's constantly training yeah but then again he stopped because he was having memory issues and head injury yeah I mean he got hit in the head 800 plus times over the course of his UFC career that Hendrick fight he got hit in the head about 10,000 times it seemed like he was a mess after that fight yeah he's been a mess after a few fights you know Carlos condid head kicked him and knocked him down I mean he's had some Wars Matt Sarah knocked him out you know it's weird it feels like GSP he's been the champion but it doesn't feel like he's doesn't have that champion respect for whatever reason well it's because his last fight with Hendrick was super close yeah controversal I did the fight companion no not to that fight I was

96:46there for that fight Hendrick yeah not Hendrick's last fight I'm talking about gsp's last fight oh I I was talking about bis being his oh no bisbing and Henderson you did the fight for that one Henderson that's when Eddie Bravo went full tower s EDD he got super drunk was worried the Illuminati was going to come and get us um but and I said Knockouts were better than submissions I think well a lot of people like it but gsp's last fight with Johnny Hendrick was super close super close fight and GSP retired with the belt yeah I thought I thought he lost that fight just I mean lot of people did yeah a lot of people did yeah either way it wasn't like this big victory it's not like the way he beat down BJ pen and stopped him and not if he said then I'm going to retire I've had a great time thank you very much everybody would be like yeah we love you George right but instead it

97:38was a close fight so people like hm I don't know man I don't know if he got the belt maybe maybe should have went out with a loss there who knows but but don't you think bisbing doesn't have that Championship type respect he does not right now and the reason he does not is cu he defended against Henderson who wasn't really ranked that high right and he really shouldn't have got a title shot but it was a rematch one of the most epic Knockouts ever Henderson flatlined him and then punched him in the head while he was down and flew through the air and that's Henderson's logo now yeah Henderson's logo is literally a silhouette of his body flying through the air ready to drop a punch down on bisping's unconscious body yeah so and then who else has he defended then he defended it um after he did that he um who the did he just fight no he's fighting GSP that's the next fight so he

98:29defended it against Henderson and then the next title defense is going to be against GSP he didn't have one before Henderson no no no he won the title by beating Luke Rock oh Luke he defended it against Dan Henderson and now he's going to fight GSP so the the thought is how is this guy getting two fights that aren't Luke you mean you look at rockold yel Romero who's the number one Contender who's terrifying which he should get the shot you think yoel should get the shot yes yeah if you look at it in terms of who's the most viable Contender who's the guy that you would think would be the most threatening guy who's the guy that might be the uncrowned champion yeah you got to go with yel Romero it it feels like UFC is um I think you know they're trying to find their way they're footing a little bit with no Ronda no Conor no so they're just going after that big what can we

99:21sell a bunch of pay-per-views for and GS P's a big name what no go please go no I was just going to ask to what's happening with Connor and that whole fight with uh Floyd Mayweather they don't know it's it has not been worked out yet so it's not definitive but there's so much money involved that they think they're going to make it happen and that's and that's the the U the UFC's got to come to an agree agreement or what didn't he get in trouble with the UFC though Connor didn't Connor for for I don't know not saying something and coming out and saying something a while ago or get fined or something he got fine for the for the throwing the water bottle Monster Energy thing yeah they find him 150 Grand and they dropped it down I think they dropped it to like 35,000 or something he said he'd never fight in Vegas again after that and so and they're like hey

100:07relax everybody Beal to New York because every time you go to New York it's debacle the the the big factor is another factor is also that the UFC was purchased by W that's a an entertainment company entertainment compan is going to try to put on the big biggest show they could put on and that's not necessarily like the number one ranked Contender fighting for the title I think that it's an entertainment I understand it's a business I understand but it is also there's it's extremely important that you honor the hierarchy of champion and top Challenger I think that's critical well you work your way up I mean you pay your dues you work your way up you it's you're ranked on ability yeah so they're trying to manufacture big fights instead of letting big fights build themselves evolve yeah build big fights evolve when you let a guy like y rero fight and he

101:02wins he beats Chris weyman by knockout and then if he fights Michael Bisping and Michael beat bising if Michael Bisping beats yoel Romero Michael bisbing becomes a superstar right you know and it's a tough fight it's a real tough fight if yoel Romero beats Michael bisbing first of all he looks like a goddamn superhero so that's easy to sell you know you look at his highlight reel of Smashing to the Moon he's a freak he's one of the greatest wrestlers that's ever competed you know he he medaled in every single International competition he entered he beat kale Sanderson one of the greatest wrestlers of all time he beat him twice he's just a freak of freaks do you know YOLO Romero is Jamie pull up a picture of yoel Romero cuz he doesn't even look real no he doesn't he's like one of those guys you're like what is that that's a person is that a real person or

101:48a CGI person just so jacked who did he oh he beat uh he beat everybody no no no but in that last one with the flying knee Chris Wiman right oh my God he flatlined him yeah cuz it seemed like that whole fight he wasn't really doing much get the out of here that's a real person but he did this look fun this the fight against uh Chris Weidman was sort of like hanging in the balance and then he did some flying knee hit him in the side of the head I was just like where did that come from pull up that video that uh yel Romero koos my um Chris Weidman yeah yeah there's an animated gif of that oh here we go go to the video it's insane like look how even how he he flies when he lands but look how he turns around already and lands punches here it goes watch this boom how recent was this fight uh a couple months ago I was in Australia I don't think I saw him down

102:48there he's just a freak man crazy and it cut the biggest gash in the side of head yeah see if you got a clear video of it Superman fly yeah look at that from like another angle but he's just uh yeah a freak of nature and science that's that's that's cap he's capable of that at any second boom but like the amount of force behind that he's just flying through the air and that's like so irregular too it's kind of like the way like Chuck lell used to hit like real irregular like a KNE flying knee to your outwhere thing well he's just so he's so explosive so his ability to close the distance is stunning sometimes and people aren't prepared for it cuz he's such an athlete but in that fight it didn't feel like he had been doing much you know what I mean it feel like he was just kind of like God when when is he GNA get off it was a close fight for sure and then all of a sudden just some

103:43out of nowhere yeah so whether or not I mean if whether or not Michael bisbing can beat him like who knows but he's you got to give him a chance oh I no he deser give you all a chance yeah so it seems I don't know it doesn't seem who life isn't fair who cares but it doesn't seem fair that it's GSP well the thing is is it a sport or is it entertainment I mean you just trying to put on a spectacle or is it a sport and if it's a sport if you're going to have the World Series people play this guy to play that guy and it gets to the World Series and here's the World Series folks and this is we've had all this whole season we've been building to this moment and this is the hierarchy right and it's still huge no if it's just a show put three of them in there put you all in there too with GSP and Michael's bisbing I was all three I was saying that they should have

104:33because you're dealing with a guy in GSP who's been out for a long time yeah have him fight Nick Diaz he's been out for a long time too neither one of them is ranked have both those guys they fought before right yeah yeah have a rematch yeah that's the fight that would get ton of ton of pay-per-views people love people love Diaz they love him I don't think people even know how much people love him I know if the UFC knows how big of a star Nick and Nate are yeah yeah yeah Sacramento right California yeah but bisbing would like H they're smoking pot take them away from promoting pot use don't those guys like do crazy insane cardio like bisping's got insane cardio the Diaz brothers have insane cardio um Nick has swam back from alcatra five times excuse me whoa five times I said twice once and he correct me online he said five now well they they compete race every year they compete in

105:27triathlons all the time yeah you know my you know my you know my dad uh actually uh he was in a plane crash uh in his early 20s and it was off San Francisco and he had to swim like a couple miles in that water to survive yeah holy he crashed into the water yeah yeah most people don't know that it's uh it's it's pretty crazy he and and I'm going to I'm going to butcher the details but uh just you know from growing up fake news fake news exactly um but what happened was he was in the Army and uh it was right around the the time the Korean war was starting and he was they were flying they were doing a routine flight or something and they had to crash land in the ocean whoa and it was getting night and I I believed I believe the pilot died and I could be wrong the pilot died but other guy he was with survived so him and him and uh this other guy they were they

106:24were swimming to Shore and they got split up because it was getting dark at night and so then now they're swimming alone and anyone who knows up you know San Francisco it's yeah definitely Jaws water that's where they breed yeah really yeah great whites breed in Northern California there's like a nesting ground up there yeah mon where you want to crash a plane then not where you want to swim from alcatra five times either in your underwear I know that's CRA yeah I didn't know I guess they I've heard of that race they but that's crazy he's done that yeah wow so your dad had to swim 2 miles yeah something like that maybe more it could have been more I me but it was long I'm good for a couple hundred yards yeah swimming's not easy then I start looking for a log to hang on to I I I think I think your dad has property in Oregon or a house or something does

107:14he not that I know of he we got a ranch up in uh Northern California he's had a ranch for for a long time up in um East of um uh east of reading oh okay it's it's in if you don't know Bernie is and in that sort of area up there and then like Lake Shasta sort of area and I think I think we have a big uh Sawmill right where I live warehouser I think this could be wrong I think he worked there your dad worked at The warehouser Sawmill uh I don't know I mean I never I never heard that look there's a lot of I've heard I mean I've heard crazy things I've heard crazier um let's see if this is crazy maybe as on DMT how often do you get to hang out with him uh well I've been busy a lot you know I was I was gone for six months in Australia and China um and then before that I was working on Fast and then before that I was on a movie uh not as much as I I'd like uh but he is

108:13turning 87 this year and uh that's I'm taking some time off to because I really feel like that's an important important time in my life to try to be around him 87 I know that's old it just happens you know all of a sudden you're 87 I that's almost 90 I didn't doesn't feel like kinwood would be almost 90 yeah I know I would have thought 70 it's it's strange wow cuz he was just um so he had you when he was like in his 50s damn son yeah just getting done W he's well I got a I have a sister I have a sister who's uh 19 she might just turned 20 no 19 wow wow so he was he was getting it done he was in his 60s yeah slinging it in his 60s woo I get it yeah so he was married to that girl who was a newscaster or something right and then they did a reality show well she did a reality show yeah he that wasn't he wasn't he didn't do it at all no he was was in no

109:14episodes at all well yeah she might have gotten him into anep might forced him into an episode I remember that was going on I was like CL this one ain't going to work no that wasn't his that wasn't his thing was was he married to the who was the woman in like SRA lock yeah Every Which Way but yeah yeah they were never married oh they weren't okay married she sued the out of him though when he broke up with her oh that was like a crazy story that he was like blocking her film projects like she was trying to claim that and he was like what oh yeah I don't think he has time to deal with that kind those kind of well she had gotten sort of a deal when they broke up to do like some film projects it was like part of like the you know separation deal yeah and uh she was claiming that he was somehow or another blocking them if I remember the story correctly well yeah nothing like a woman

110:08scor look at that he did he worked at the pulp Mill oh wow wait but but that's well who you reading this Wikipedia yeah I think he did maybe me might I'll ask him I'll ask real bro it's it's on the Internet it's got to be I think he did hey look I don't know if you know about Wikipedia but this is why I know it's real cuz anyone can enter in information and edit it right that's crazy so it's so so 100% Rock Solid so Rock Solid cuz why why would anybody put something that wasn't true up there I think Wikipedia still says Brian K's my brother really somebody might have changed it but I left it there forever yeah well he could he's as jacked as you he is almost as jacked as me yeah it's close he was he was flexing up close to call he does flex like crazy he's such a silly goose that guy's the best to go hunting with cuz for 5 days like we were like the last time we went it was just

111:05nothing but jokes just constant laughter he's cuz he's like he's the best at a captive audience like if you're stuck in a car with him he's going to make us he's the guy to make make a scene well he's just funny man he's a he's like just I'm not funny that way the way he is he's like a just a natural clown silly person he's always silly and the first time I took him to Montana like we we went hunting with renella like it was just it was six days of gut busting howling laughter does does Ste Steve seems more like dry though like seems funny he's a funny guy too especially if he's got a couple Pops in him he's a funny dude but Callen had this character called the Ravine Comer and uh he couldn't they wouldn't put it anywhere they wouldn't release the footage but they filmed it it was him he was doing this character of a guy who finds every time he sees a ravine he has to come so

111:59he runs towards Ravine yeah and he K's like pulling his pants down and he's like screaming that he's like shooting loads into this Ravine I mean I'm not doing it any justice cuz he's like way over the top he's like a the the Ravine like he just whenever you'd see like any sort of a valley he would have to pretend he was jerking off into it like just it's I'm telling you it seems so ridiculous but you know you're I think everybody's done that before jerked off into a ravine oh yeah of course but when you're loopy you know you get up at 5:30 in the morning it's dark out you're freezing he's the guy he's just making everybody laugh yeah that's what he that's what he mentioned there is something weird about that like in the woods when you're waking up super early or or going surfing super early you're sort of delirious and and you're like what the are we doing why are

112:49we putting ourselves through this and then you know you you obviously do your activity or whatever it is and you're you know happy you did it but it's a it's it's a weird delirium hour there's also some weird thoughts that go through your mind when you're sleep deprived that don't ordinarily go through your mind it's one of the reasons like some writers on purpose will wait until like really late at night until they write like the the writers that wrote for news radio the sitcom that I used to be on they would wait until like 2:00 or 3: in the morning before they started writing they would just stay up and get silly and joke around there silly and creative it can be silly that's usually when I make a post that I wake up in the morning and read and be like why did I say that I did that the other day I was in New York I was uh sat at a bar and we were we were you know we

113:32were all celebrating sort of you weird Fast and Furious stuff and uh I wake up in the morning there's me screaming you know singing Tina Turner at the top of my lungs in bar What's love got to do it oh no oh my God yeah out of context that could be a problem it's a story it was so not part of any of the story you know was just that yeah yeah so did you drive in Fast and Furious yeah do you drive did you drive for real or do they have how does that work no we we don't we don't we don't we don't do a lot of the you know the heavy lifting the heavy lifting is done by professional stunt guys you know that it's a you know it's a big liability right first off you know and and those stunts are I mean they do an incredible job of keeping everything in camera uh or at least a lot of it you knowly they can't do cars flying over submarines in camera and stuff but uh

114:24they do a really good job of of of utilizing the stunt driver's talents and and keeping a lot of stuff do you drive at all is it ever you driving yeah you like pull up to a thing then you know do a couple lines or a scene or something but you're not doing you're not doing the you're not going sideways around a corner yeah you know what always drives me nuts with those movies they Crush these awesome cars yeah like they take these awesome classic cars and smash them like no 700 something were destroyed and Mak 700 cars what in the man it's like the Dukes of Hazard like one of the biggest bummers about the Dukes of Hazard is watching these old Chargers slam nose first into the ground and then pretending that thing's okay yeah oh yeah there was some of that jumping off or driving off the snow what mountain or something yeah there's some stufft Still Still The the cars F but

115:17you know that's funny because you said 700 cars were ruined I shot an iPhone in slow em motion one time and people were saying how wasteful I was and I'm I'm like have you ever seen a movie I mean do you not care that's was full of what wasteful of what gigabytes no waste full of the phone I wasted somebody could used that phone don't you know you remember the first you shot in an iPhone I was like shooting in I shot it with an arrow oh yeah yeah oh shot with an AR waste of a phone we shot some here we shot some in that back studio for unbox therapy I set up some uh iPhones because they they had they came out with some new glass that was back when I a 90 lb Factor too I blew right through that thing and people were like that so wasteful you could have given that to somebody and I'm just like oh my you know someone's got opinion about everything go watch a movie 700 classic

116:08cars yeah well they weren they weren't I mean you know I mean you know some are Pinos or you know whatever you know car you know I don't know you call them classic they weren't all the Vin Diesel driving car no okay how how about the shooting did you guys actually shoot guns yeah yeah yeah not Amun but blank blank ammunition that's pretty standard on movies okay yeah cuz you had some shooting scenes yeah yeah yeah now I was told that when you do a scene with a gun and blank ammunition you're still not supposed to point at the actor no no no I mean if anyone's got good gun discipline you know I mean that's how I grew up is you know good gun discipline you know muzzled down it's always but I mean like even in a scene where you're shooting at oh yeah yeah you want to sort of offset it especially if it's close I mean they do testing and stuff first to see and

116:58they'll tell you hey you can't pass this line you know if you're walking up and you're going to pull a draw a gun on somebody that you know we don't want you to go past this line or so um and then and obviously you know hey can you not aim it directly their they'll find like a good point for you to aim it at that's they can cheat with the camera a little bit I had heard that that happened after Brandon Lee got killed movie The Crow yeah that was a bad one yeah they had real ammo in there right of it LO it got you what happens is sometimes like what happens is uh sometimes you know even in these airbags the same same sort of stuff they had all these uh recall in these airbags is what happens is these blanks you know sometimes they'll they'll Bunch up together over time if it's an old blank the gunpowder so it it can like Harden oh and then it'll it can shoot like a

117:48projectile yeah like almost like a couple of shotgun pellets wow and just penetrated the right spot and killed him yeah crazy it was a 44 magnum I think so there was a ton of power behind it crazy yeah that's not good yeah so now they just pointed to the side what about like fight scenes do you have to do fight scenes like especially you having a martial arts background did they have you do scenes yeah I didn't do you there wasn't a terrible amount of uh fight slammed slammed against the wall I guess I guess playing around a little bit uh in this one but uh sure you know in other films I love doing that stuff that's the fun stuff especially you know cuz cuz you got to hang with the those are the you know some of the coolest guys on sets all the all the stunt guys you know they're all you know like-minded people all you know martial art background guys

118:40um and so you're just choreographing all day working that out and then you get on set and you're doing it or you're you're you're you're doing it with them because they might be playing the you know villain number seven or you know something so then you you've already got a short hand with them and you're that's that's the fun stuff that's cool it's way better than dealing with like a difficult actor or something do you ever do that yeah who's the worst oh come on you're not going to get me you're not going to get me just make make their name Rhyme or something else just make their name rhy yeah like let's you know you'll you'll get me in trouble like chips guys oh that's right oh yeah that's what I hear yeah I heard I thought it was Torpedoes but nope might just be lips and and loose lips yeah in the scene uh the rock picks him up like and slams him holds him against the wall

119:30and thens was that real was that real it's real with it's real with some assists there's some movie Magic he's he's a big guy I mean it was real you would have dropped him and choked him out right that dude is so jacked he took a photo of him after a workout the other day and I'm like what yeah he's huge he's so disciplined too yeah 4:00 a.m. like 4 a.m. yeah do does he like when you're on set with him is he just always doing that like what's his deal yeah he's just extremely disciplined guy um you know I got a lot of respect for him he's uh he's he knows what he wants and he is going to get it like he is not there is no no he is taking it down he's making movie after movie after movie he's going to go do it he's uh you know he eats religiously he's you got these meals come you know which is I love doing a meal prep stuff because it's great it makes his life less thing to think about

120:22right um but he's yeah very religious with it look at that out do look at that look at that piece of meat he's more jacked now than he's ever been in his life yeah I think he's I think he's 44 yeah 44 or 46 or something yeah and just that's crazy Uber jacked yeah and continuing to get more and more jacked still still putting in the work yeah he's not done getting jacked he's he's keeping pumping it he's keeping it going it's just uh when you see his schedule and his workload then you're there's always something new project he's doing he's doing a TV show and he's doing a this he's doing that how the does he have time and he's hosting this award show and he's like doing something thing for the troops and he's doing this movie and finishing up that movie and he like how I I tell you the travel is what kills me I know you probably you've been show business for all longer than all of

121:09us you know um and uh the travel is what kills you right these long flights and then Jet leg and then trying to you got to go hit the gym and yeah well I did a podcast yesterday my brain just wouldn't fire right it takes like to me like a day or two just flu in from Buffalo and it just takes a day or two like for your brain to like resync like today I feel normal but yesterday I just was like foggy well if you I haven't tried it but I keep hearing about the what you're supposed to do with the light for the jet leg because like the simulation of light wherever you're at and they have you know you're supposed to put on the eye thing like when it's supposed to get dark like say you're flying into the light you're flying you know going away all those eye covers yeah and and simulate wherever you want whereever you're supposed to end up yeah and that really is supposed to help with jet leg

121:56I was reading a podcast about Alaska about people that hunt in Alaska and then when you go up there in the summer and you get like two hours of a podcast did I say reading a podcast what the is wrong with me what do I keep saying that's the second time on this podcast I've never said it before maybe I'm still not really recovered from Buffalo I'm in denial excuse me I was listening to a podcast where they were talking this guy was talking about how usually sleeps like a baby but he went up to Alaska and because it's it's only dark for 2 hours a night in the Summer where they were at and I think they were in the Brooks range and uh he was saying that like after like six or seven days it started getting delusional you get just Delirious you don't know what fck going on that's that same with that circadian rhythm is that just the light because they say the light affects the

122:40optic nerves where you're supposed to produce melatonin yeah and this guy was saying that the way to mitigate that that he didn't know at the time but he was told by someone is to wear a mask that those those sleep sing mask you see in movies you know they always look so silly in movies but those things actually effective yeah huh I I I'm sloppy about it but uh Alaska though you need it have you ever been in the summer oh yeah it's awesome right many times it's weird though we would hunt we would be hunt until I used to go with Roy almost every year we'd be hunt until God I want to thank 1 in the morning it would go we'd go back eat and then go fishing at like 3 in the morning it it was like dark for an hour then we' go fishing then we'd start baiting again then we'd hunt that night then we'd do the same thing no sleep which part of Alaska we were uh it's like the Susa

123:35River so it's just north or south central basically okay I've been up there a few times been up to like Seward Seward and and then up I think North where they do like salmon fishing yeah and it's where the commercial guys will come in and they'll they'll it's like they net them yeah but they'll you the tides get so low and stuff they'll they'll do like they'll drive on the beach with these amphibious uh uh boats yeah it's crazy and they'll like lay the net and stuff it's it really is the Last Frontier up there oh yeah it really is it's amazing yeah too cold though too cold how dare you how dare you San Diego yeah I'm a total when it comes to to weather well you lived in Hawaii and now you live in San Diego it's like come on man you're in Paradise both times just you know you you can get anywhere now right San Diego is one of those places where people in San Diego don't

124:26want you telling people how good San Diego is like they're mad at me there's a thous thousand people screaming right now going shut the up well traffic's already sucks yeah it's way worse now than it used to be in San Diego used to be way easier to get around it's true it's good skydiving have you I have I have yep down there on the border like alcoh this area where was I there's like some Lake there's Olympic Training Center out there do you know where that is no oh I can't remember what the lake was really but people don't realize about San dieo 2 is like there a lot of Ranch Land uh you know I mean the obviously the coastal area is just a little sliver and then uh you go east and you're right in ranch of Santa Fe in 5 minutes and it's just beautiful orange gr old California you know uh you know tons of Ranch Land people riding horses Goldberg's got a ranch out there really

125:17Goldberg the wrestler oh yeah he's got some badass place out there he keeps his muscle cars I thought Mike Goldberg no Mike Goldberg lives in Phoenix my boys when we were watching UFC the other night they were like bring Goldberg back lot people Goldberg there was a uh there's a survey someone did online where it was like keep John anic me and Dominick Cruz was a and then Goldberg was B and it was like 90% B yeah yeah I sent it to the UFC did you yeah what do you look at this what do you think of that I don't know man you know I get it people want changeed especially if they own it you know you pay 4 billion bucks or something put your signature on something I guess you want to change the color of the car I bought a new car it cost me $4 billion I'm going to make it red I always wanted it red are are you going to uh uh I was going to say a fish night but you're not going to marry them

126:08are you going to commentate the uh that fight if you if if I mean would would you be the front runner to be one of the commentators if they do the uh McGregor U Mayweather most likely no cuz it's a boxing match most likely I'll just I'll be here watching it on on the screen I can't wa I can't wait for it though if it happens I mean I just don't think so I think it's that it's a I'm not a boxing commentator I know a lot about boxing followed boxing since I was a kid and I've commentated on kickboxing bouts before but I've never commentated on a boxing fight before it' be kind of cool though if they had you know couple two guys from boxing world and you because you're Two Worlds they always have Jim Lampley yeah right is that who they always have and Max Kellerman who I really love Yeah Max I love that guy I would I would be happy to do a pay-per-view with Max Kellerman I think

127:00it'd be fun I yeah I'm a big fan of that dude it'd be a different perspective just because with McGregor coming out of the UFC or paully malagi he's another one I really respect that guy a lot too he's a great commentator and world champion boxer yeah yeah it would be maybe I may but most likely no most likely I just do I'm doing less and less of those I just uh I do 10 a year now I used to the most I'd ever done I think it was up to like 24 a year it was just too much man you don't you don't you're not doing them all now you're no International pay-per-view anymore you just I'm done I'm only no Fox ones anymore like all those big Fox shows cut all those out all I do now is domestic pay-per-view that's it gotcha so it's about 10 10 a year yeah the international man that that just Krazy oh that we had fun though we went to Rio and watched Ronda that was fun

127:55yeah cam came with me down when she fought bch COA in Rio and starch during the first round that was a good time it was fun but you remember how sketchy it was we we driving around a bulletproof car we got an armed guard with us everywhere it's it's you know I've been down there I didn't I I didn't have any of that they must you must be uh pretty big down there I'm very important ex I thought it was I thought it was for me because it could have they they they're Big B yeah yeah and they know that you don't pack a piece so they're like okay I was down there with Jazelle and she was that was she was taking helicopters around oh yeah to get around that was a that's the way to do it yeah that was the way we were in sou Paulo actually oh okay to avoid being carjacked is that why she took helicopters well I think it was just I mean I imagine there's some maybe

128:40I have no idea but I think it was just avoid traffic yeah there's a lot of traffic trffic is terrible I mean even where we were the traffic was terrible there's like one road well that's Rio yeah we were by the beach that was a problem remember when we got to the fight it took forever to get to the fight they were like you have to leave 3 hours early we're like What yeah and then you get in the car you go oh I get it that was while it was going on was what we were talking to Dana lash on the phone it was right when Cecil the bear was happening that Cil the oh excuse me I was reading about it in a TV show talking about about Cecil the kangaroo yeah yeah that was that thing was going down man yeah I remember that that was good that was at the time but yeah that was the last time I went to Brazil I was like I think I've been to Brazil five times I love it I love the Brazilians I

129:26love the food down there it's fun it's great and everything like that we were going to go see Christ the Redeemer that that was our goal to go do that do you know what a process that is to go see that thing no really oh my God takes forever it was like a whole day you have to take buses halfway then other buses and it's just like you cannot just go up there I mean it's better just get a helicopter pretty dope statue though oh it's I wanted to be there so we got one from AAR we had in the background and we were like it's pretty cool though I'd like to fly it I'm I uh I'm a I'm a pilot I'm a helicopter pilot yeah no kiding yeah yeah and so I'd like to I'd like to fly that that's kind of you know for Pilots it's kind of like oh that's a bucket list place I love love to fly and other yeah other places now how does that work if you have a license in America and you want to fly in Brazil

130:15obviously you can't fly a helicopter all the way to Brazil no how far can a helicopter fly like what's the longest distance well it it really it really just depends on what helicopter you're talking about and how many people you're you're with so a lot of the furthest travel the helicopter's ever gone well that's probably a Blackhawk I would imagine they have uh dual engines and they have you know they you know $1 million or $20 million helicopter whatever it is it's got you know uh massive fuel tanks that you know a civilian helicopter can't go I so I wouldn't know the answer but uh Jamie like a how far is a black I'm going to guess let's guess okay how far do you think they I bet they can fly for 12 hours no way that's a long time I don't think so American engineering how dare I'm going to say I'm going to say 300 miles what yeah that's it I'm going

131:09to say what if someone's chasing them almost out of guess complete guess I have no idea I I would I would I would going to go on Cameron's side I'm saying AC cross the ocean three times not even close CL if you're saying 12 hours how fast do they go well it depends if you're on a if you're in a piston helicopter you know or if you're in a turbine helicopter like a black hog oh what's the difference uh well piston helicopter is is like a piston engine uhhuh you know a car engine yeah but it uses uses you know your uh your blades in the same sort of fashion but uh speed on a on like a a 44 you know you like 130 knots I think is your v& which is your like you're do not 2000 miles huh distance without Landing 2,2 miles hey how dare you how how dare you I see where you get your information from oh that's a small helicopter that's that's a md500 that's not a that's not

132:07that's not a Blackhawk that's not a that's not a Blackhawk oh see I that's not I what black not right there what do you mean it's not right it's on Wikipedia we already discussed this anyone can edit this of course it's right if it was wrong they would have corrected it so for so 400 mil an or no 250 M hour that one goes that's pretty amazing and that's a that's a record yeah that's a yeah let's find out what see if you can Google a Blackhawk Google Blackhawk helicopter what would you Google long long long distance distance capability capability or something distance let's see 276 276 miles wow that's a lot different hey nautical miles yeah 300 mile 151 mil shorter than other similar rotated aircrafts maximum altitude is 6,000 fet top speed 151 so see they're pretty fast cuz you know a turban helicopter well you can get some civilian ones the md500 is are pretty

133:07fast is that in when you say knots what is that in like mile per hour 151 knots what is knots to miles per hour I would have to check why do they say nautical miles too what do well nautical miles are longer than than um that was pretty close 1 1.15 1.5 okay so it's 1.1 m per hour for every 1 mph a knot to a mile so it's it's more than 150 M hour 300 or wait yeah I thought it was 200 and something you said 150 knots didn't it 150 knots yeah so it's 1.1 to each so 276 what's that 151 knots top speed comes at 151 knots 261 nautical miles I typed in distance and that's the first so it can fly oh I see so not is it did you was the last this last one knots or miles you just Googled the second thing was what just how miles yeah it's just KN to Miles knots to miles but not nautical miles right okay it's the same thing though not one noal mile per hour that's what a knot is it's a nautical

134:10mile per hour oh okay so the speed of knots is the same as nautical miles oh okay oh how interesting wonder why they not just use miles why confuse the out of everybody that's a hey it's the same thing with standard metric system did you know that a not in a nautical mile with the same thing I just learned that I didn't know that but it's just like Adam Adam putting up Celsius for temperature Green Tree in Australia I know I had to say nobody knows what Celsius is what should he put up American dollars to just for Instagram yes what do you do with that stupid green money your money's the wrong color sorry mate yeah it's weird when you go down there too cuz everybody looks normal and they start driving on the left-and side of the road and they talk weird and the steering wheels on the wrong side it's all up they don't know what they're doing so they're not normal but

135:03they are great people I was just down there for 6 months and I I really do like the Australian people that's the second place I would live other than America 100% number one is Canada I'd mve to Canada first you would yeah if if went to kill everything up there moose like I think if it's the nicest people in the world I think are the nicest on Earth they're always sorry sorry what's it all about but so that's like the place I'd live first other than America number two is Australia it's a close second to especially Melbourne I love Melbourne yeah such a great you like mity I love both of them they're both awesome but Melbourne I just had a great time in Melbourne amazing food the shows we did were amazing this is such a great time yeah I really like Sydney the the whole the whole country man it's just great and it's it's got so much more open space and it's just huge huge for

135:57the amount of people they have there less people than in the Greater Los Angeles area and the entire country is the size of the United States yeah it's crazy that's awesome that's crazy that's a lot of country though it's one of the reasons why they're so nice I I do hear though that there there's a lot of interesting stuff happening in the desert out there with like nuclear waste that they're allowing them to dump out there oh they're trying to make some Godzilla type that's what they're doing that's what I would do let's see what happens some spots out there with nothing but spiders and crocodiles throw some uranium out there there's some there's some stuff out there that can kill you for sure everything out there you know right he's Going's he's headed down there soon I'm super jealous he's going to do 18 days yeah hunting water buffalos and Kangaroos and you

136:43going to shoot a kangaroo no you allowed to are you allowed to hunt kangaroos I don't yeah you are you are down there can you yeah kangaro jerky oh okay supposed to taste good supposed to taste like venison what uh what movie were you doing there uh I was shooting uh Pacific Rim oh you did that yeah how was that it was cool it was kind you said it was like the you know you're creating a Godzilla monster type things right that's a crazy movie right like how do you act when it's like CGI what is that like I don't I guess I don't know what it is what is it Pacific Rim's a monster movie some some grows in the in the ground and comes out and everybody up it's kind like the dinosaurs but in the future the dinosaurs came back wow yeah it's kind of cool it's a it's very cool concept C's a no non sense guy you throw Godzilla P him eyes roll back in his head it's like I ran 205 miles

137:32I got no time for monsters I got no time for Monsters I'm a bow hunter I got no time for fake monsters I hunt bears that's what I told Scott yesterday is like you know a lot about a lot I said I know a sort of a lot about two things running running and bow hunting anything else I don't know sh I know a lot I know a lot about two things I know enough to pretend I know a lot about everything else if you you ask me about martial arts or comedy I can give you some long ass answers and I know what the I'm talking about yeah but you get into other area I'm like better Google Jamie Jamie where are you I just need Jamie to follow me around exactly dude no one's better at Jamie than pulling up well you're in the middle of going wait a minute is that right and then all a sudden Bo pops up on the screen yeah yeah see that's a invaluable resource that makes me look so much smarter than

138:26I really am this there's no way you can know everything about everything and anybody who claims to is an this is just it's not possible well how much information can your brain even take right I mean good question you know they say some of I've heard several times now that you're only supposed you're only supposed to be able to really recognize 1 people yeah right something like that where it's yeah they think you can have relationships with 150 people right which is a lot of guys are super psyched about that they're like yes get this one thing woo 150 this is great uh yeah it's called dunbar's number yeah dunbar's number you you keep 150 people in your head that we have friendships with it's very strange like and the idea is that our brain was designed to absorb the names and faces of people that are in our tribe and then when tribes get over 150 people they're essentially

139:18unmanageable I believe it I believe it too I think it goes back to what we're talking about when we're saying that people aren't designed for cities they're not designed for this life and for televisions and uh lights that you just switch on and off that we're really designed to this the reason why you feel so content when you're in the mountains is that your body is designed for that literally yeah yeah and for hunting so yeah sorry anti-hunting psychos poor people I hate the city the you know the anti-hunting people you know they just they get food easy you know it's easy to get food it wasn't they would turn they would all listen to me you all of you you would shoot a rabbit right in the face if you were starving and your kids were crying guaranteed if it gets ugly if it all gets ugly you become a predator guaranteed guaranteed because animals are going to hunt you too face

140:07guess what you're out there in the Woods by yourself and you're making a lean to and you you have to fight the coyote that's trying to drag your kid off in the middle of the night yeah that coyote gets roasted over an open fire yeah with a big smile on your face happens yeah Brendan put up a picture of the Grizzly I killed up on his page yesterday oh my God the tsunami of butt hurt he had he had to text me and tell me sorry about all the hate and I'm like he D I said dude I just told him hey you got to take the good with the bad I said this is all part of the deal it's interesting that people you know they don't understand like here's my favorite one ever when you were talking about bear hunting and like you you were saying you know that the the be populations have to be controlled and the woman on the show was like that's because you've killed off all their Predators like yeah what are

140:52you talking about dinosaurs what the hell is killing a grizzly bear are you crazy the only thing that kills grizzly bears is other grizzly bears unless you want to have a grizzly bear cannibal apocalypse going on up there you got to control their numbers yeah I know and that's I told Brendan that too I said listen these people just don't realize that if the Grizzlies up the brown bears up there where you can kill two a year because there's so many of them that if we didn't control them there'd be no moose you know there be no deer there'd be no especially the Moose they just focus on those moose when the calves are dropping and so those'll follow the pregnant you know female around and eat the the calf when it drops and with without us controlling them those would be gone you know 100% sort like similar with you know I don't know exactly the numbers or

141:37anything about but great white sharks right we like everyone's protected those for so long that then like that's that will start screwing up the cycle because then you're the tuna so I'm G to get this wrong but the the tuna population because we're we're taking all the tuna population everyone's so psycho over tuna and raw fish right yeah so then and we're protecting all the great white sharks and some of other sharks um we've just completely off-balanced the situation because that's what they eat I'm sure well anytime people intervene in the natural world and step in and protect one thing and not the others well we have to intervene sometimes I mean we have we can't it animals they just don't manage themselves what I mean by intervene is like what they did in Australia where they brought over feral cats to control the rats and rabbits and then they start

142:29eating the ground nesting birds so they bring in foxes to try to kill the cats and then the foxes kill everything but the cats and like Jesus Christ so why did they bring the where did they bring the cats in it's a long story but they brought in rabbits in Australia and the rabbit population got out of control and then they brought in cats to deal with the rabbits but the cats just eat the rabbits they also started decimating the ground nesting birds and all the other local rodents and then they brought in other things to deal with the cats and now Hunters are like it's Australia is weird hunting magazines water buffalo are not from there that's true too from Asia everything in Australia all the Stags and crocodiles I have you heard right they're like some of the big American crocodile were I'm not sure about that what I think they're from Australia I don't know about that water

143:20Crocs are huge bigger think alligator the American alligator over there do they have alligators in Australia I believe so I don't know don't know R in there I'm not sure about that but I do know that they they show cats in their hunting magazines yeah their hunting magazines dudes hold up cats like I got one mate like and they think it's cool but to it's the same as in America if you killed like a coyote that's killing all the neighborhood pets people would like shoot it with a bow and arrow and then take a picture of of it and they'd be happy yeah good you got that kitty cat eating coyote but that's how these people are in Australia with the cats it's all just culturally relative it is it's it's it's no different when we were there last time I was there had this big uh white stallion uh a bromie is what they it's just a horse you know coming and uh you know Adam's telling me

144:11he's like oh man that's that's a trophy you should you should kill that thing I'm like I can't kill a freaking horse dude and it's like but it's a bromie I mean so that's and it was by itself it was it looked awesome and it comes all the way up I'm praying it would go somewhere else no it comes 20 yards you know I could I couldn't do it but that's just because you know where we grow up where we live sure your condition to to them you horses to them that's just you know that's something to hunt it's me well I ate at Joe beef in Montreal the uh restaurant it's a great restaurant in Montreal and they serve horse they served they had horse uh horse loin and uh they also served horse tartar so it was like raw horse and horse loin and we were like oh because it's it's an amazing restaurant but they're like super creative with their dishes uh and uh both times I was there they gave us a

145:04horse no I can't do horse I like horses it was one of the biggest problems we ever had on Fear Factor we made people eat horse rectum no ways yes I remember that oh my God I remember that show but I don't remember the rectum yeah it was huge people were Furious I'm not so sure it was and that was that was the stop because it was CU not because it was rectum because it wasse yeah yeah Pig rectum was fine not a peep out of people nobody said a damn thing but horse rectum was a huge issue hey you want to cause more problems how about bear rectum yeah you wouldn't want that no Bear yeah why is horse better I don't know did that did that show did that show uh just fizzle out cuz you wanted you were done with it or did it was it no it fizzled out the first time because it just did 148 episodes and it was just enough was enough and it never really got cancelled we just kind of stopped

145:57doing it yeah and everybody was done like let's just stop and we walked away from it and then several years later it came back we did six episodes and it was cancelled because we made people drink we made them drink donkey donkey and Donkey urine oh my God nobody had a problem with the urine oddly enough really it's like relatively noral comparison to the but that was it TMZ got a hold of some of the photos some leaked photos of the donkey episode and put it up there what did you call it I do not do not remember I think uh said sperm I think we said sperm or seen or whatever the we said that's disgusting yeah um and that was the people the studio but people did it right oh yeah all three of them did it all three of them did it yeah it was en you got to get out of here don't don't you you got to go to Conan you leaving soon yeah pretty soon all right when

146:55does uh let's get away from drinking come thank you this is troubling even to me but I'm one of the very few people in Hollywood or anywhere in the world that can say I lost a job cuz people had to drink come on TV yeah that's true it's true what's hilarious is that NBC said yes to that that was all signed off that got passed yeah through whatever yeah quality control looks a lot of people lot of you know lot of certain you know kind of genders drink come all the time both both genders who the people are I thought we were switching I wanted to he brought me back in saw you lobed it up yeah the fate of the Furious April 14th that's when it comes out this Friday are Vin Diesel and the Rock at odds in this photo I can't tell it seems like they're hey that was that fake news that I read or was that real yeah it's all it's all just don't believe anything you read on

147:57the internet wiip some real issues those two the two Alphas colliding on the set and V diesel wouldn't take off the sunglasses even at night it was so strange yeah that's funny dope cars though man dude so um he took off his necklace so pay attention to that what kind of cars they have in this episode oh was that a charger with the flared fenders yeah you got like sort of charger there you got charger that sucker was on display somewhere right that charger is it on display somewhere it might have been I mean it's it's one of the hero cars in the f a insane car like that's oh my God that's pretty sexy right that look good yeah those something about those American cars from the late 60s early 7s you just you just can't get anything like that sexy God they're amazing that one's got a custom grill too look at that Grill on that sucker wo no R truck huh no Cam's a fan of the Ram trucks okay

148:56like likes those yeah I do too but they they just don't there's something about you know you can't get a ram truck with a supercharger popping out of the hood like that sure big old blower see look they're fighting oh no that's Jason STM never mind oh Jason stm's fighting who rock some that's I don't think that's the rock yeah it is the rock why he so Brown well he's they pretending he's black he's got baby oil on and Jason stayed I would I would have to pull him aside and go hey run yeah look at me look at me look at me run run the other way but he he fights right he's got a martial arts background for sure legit yeah yeah yeah Jason them can fight for sure but uh still run hey look at that The Rock look at that handsome Bastard Jesus Christ look at the features on that guy like young Clint Eastwood you hey how dare you give meon a handsome fella I don't

149:46understand why he's so upset he angry a lot of those Hollywood guys are angry I don't know why it's like a oh so um what's next for you like what do you what do you got going on after this anything I'm I'm not I'm I'm going to take some time off I'm I'm going to see my father and bow hunt come on son I'm going to get Hawaii or something if you come to Hawaii cam will go to Hawaii come on brri he's going to go kill bears oh no no no I'm not going to do that don't say that life oh oh is thatw I meant he's not going to kill bears under any circumstance what he's goingon to shoot over their head and then take a picture of it no he's gonna try to scare them off so I can't kill them ah right nice and let them know where the Moose babies are right all those Cy little moose babies that you love to eat go get them go get them nice sweet friendly bear go eat those bear those babies

150:41those moose babies you don't eat moose yeah yeah um so yeah would you not hunt bear because of the blowback look uh hunt anything I'll eat you know I never say never um but um I eat Bear yeah you can eat bear bear sausage is good man I'm telling you like black bear in particular people say it doesn't taste goody have you you eat it up there with the with the rivets we have some amazing bare meat dishes I mean it's just it's like You' think it was the best steak ever the stirfry that Jen makes that that stir is amazing yeah sausages I have a bare summer sausage that's amazing bare regular sausage Italian sweet sausage and bear it's good man yeah yeah yeah I bet and people just are you know they he's not buying it look at him no I'm no he's like I'm not shooting a bear that's that's wait till this the public is losing her mind somewhere that's why we didn't wait till

151:41we're off air yeah wait till we're off air yeah um but is that why because you would hunt anything that you eat and you wouldn't hunt that because you wouldn't eat it well no I just I never had bear I don't know maybe it's you know me have some of your bear sausage and I'll say I'll give you some for real it really is good man and it's um the the thing is it's also an important tool for conservation because they really do need to keep those populations down especially in Alberta yeah tons of bear up there people think that like I go outside I don't see any bear bear populations are so diminished cuz you're not where they are if you go where they are they're godamn everywhere that's what I said I go yeah you're not going to see a Grizzly at Starbucks but you know hey go up to Alaska you're going to see plenty and they need to be baged jam Jamie played that video of that guy

152:24that's sitting he's a photographer and he's uh by a river take and the bear wanders up to them and then they pan out to the rest of the river and you see like a dozen Grizzlies wandering through this River jacking all these salmon that yeah first of all what the yeah imagine you're sitting there this thing just pulls up within 15 ft of you like you are only alive cuz it chooses not to eat you cuz it's got a belly full of salmon so this guy is sitting there this Bear Just he has to chase it off he has to yell at it I mean feet away from him and easily a th000 lbs it's an enormous Bear right yeah and if it look at that right to to kill you I mean it's not like you can look at a bear and tell it's not like a dog with a wagging tail I mean you don't know that bear could think uh I just don't feel like killing you next time okay yeah I'll kill you I mean there's there's no difference our

153:19big bear family best buddies people see this stuff and they think you know bears are our friends well that's that one guy guy who got up there who was there right Grizzly Man he fin he finally got yeah Timothy Treadwell did you ever see that documentary the grizly man yeah yeah amazing anybody listen to this who hasn't seen it this is what you do you smoke some of that Devil's cabbage and you sit in front of the old Netflix and you watch Grizzly Man cuz it is a goddamn unintentional comedy yeah unintentional is it's an unintentional com there's so many comedic beats in that movie I was supposed to interview wner Herzog he was on a tour last uh summer and past didn't work out and we we never wound up doing the podcast together but that was the first thing I was going to ask him I was like come on did you intentionally put comedic beats into that movie because there's this one

154:08part where like there's a Sheriff he goes I thought he was I remember that I thought he was R in the theater falling down laughing he thought he was red because after the guy got eaten by the bear cuz he was up there like way past when you're supposed to be up there too he was out there past he was friends yeah they were friends yeah there's one scene this is Mrs Chocolate oh this is her poop it's right here this came out of her butt he's like picking it up he's like it's still warm it's still warm cuz it was inside of her and that's just a good example of the bear might not kill you just because they don't feel like it but when they feel like it it's over it's over man not a godamn thing you're going to do about that not a goddamn thing no they're they're a wild animal it's just like it's even the Bears that we hunt up in Alberta I mean you don't know I mean they could decide they're

154:59wild animals at any at any there's all different kinds there's aggressive Bears there's shy Bears there's bears that you can't really get a read on but it's just like a dog I mean you don't know they they're good and bad Bears so it's just the wrong one yeah they're like all animals have different personalities like cats dogs domestic animals have weird personalities wild animals do too it's just most of them can't kill you but Bears can that's the difference yeah so you're not interested in that what about eagles you ever interested in cooking up an eagle some eag balls spit eag balls rotisserie Eagle nothing like a pair of Eagle balls do eagles have balls I know that they're male and female but do they have testicles look that up this is that's important that's important is there a bucket list hunt that you'd like to go on like maybe in an elk hunt in

155:46the Rocky Mountains yeah that would be that would be that be awesome huh tag along and uh do one of those if I can yeah there's um well you know if you ever do get to Australia like they have stag over there that are a lot like like elk and they Roar you ever heard them roar oh dude they sound like a lion it's like have you You' heard it in real life no I stag Roars no they're like they Roar it's it's a crazy sound Jamie will find it for us we we've had some good elk hunts so Joe and I we have yeah there's an elk back there I'll show you in the back that we got just uh this past fall huge thing yeah oh my God massive massive animal and I've got food back there if you want some you want some elk I'll break give you some take it with you hell yeah cuz you're headed back tonight right yeah yeah after Conan we got to go do that is that a stack no it's a rock and Elk bugling

156:38we've heard that before but go see red stag Roar try Google red there it is yeah listen to this thing it's crazy look at his face first of all look at those goddamn antlers guar that's high F here go what look at his dick yeah he's flopping yeah I think look at that rocket a big old red lipstick rocket IM imagine if men did that ladies you're so lucky is he bringing in the female they trying to he's trying to call you see that quartering too my my ho turbo would pound right through that shoulder we'd take that shot would you take that shot now where would you go right through the shoulder right here point to the spot right there just right through it yeah it would go right through it Cam's shooting the most ridiculously powerful setup we were practicing today and it's just so evident that these heavy arrows so much momentum you're at 687 grains is that what that is yep yep which is by

157:48the way you know we were talking grams before and we meant to say grains and then we're converting grams to marijuana and calculations just don't mix we were doing this a long time ago on a podcast and then I was driving home and I was like Jesus Christ do we say grams when I meant grains and then we were trying to figure out how many grams were in an ounce and they were determining that it was a pound like 4 500 grams is like a pound okay I'm like but an arrow is not a pound like whatever and we just kept talking something else and then it took me a while to like figure it out it's like saying I was reading a podcast you know but um his setup is just Preposterous it's unbelievable horsepower today man yeah shooting good hitting hard 80 that thing is pretty cool if you're ever right no no no can't be 80 it's not possible we'll talk later we'll talk later that's a trade secret

158:40Engineers oh oh oh yeah yeah remember you told me okay yeah we'll talk later but yeah we have a our buddy Adam that we were talking about before that lives in Australia when cam goes over there you're going to be hunting stag over there right yep stag Buffalo and phow and Stag's just like an elk I mean it's essentially a real similar animal well smaller yeah but it's I mean that it's that right there Buffalo though the Buffalo is a video of him over there hunting a water buffalo from 40 yards and he's creeping up see if you find that video it's one of my favor you read that book the last American buffalo rell's book yeah you know I've read part of it I haven't finished it but I I I started it and then I put it down I never went back to it as you get it's sort of the first half is a little funky it's clunky it's but the the shitty writing is that what you're saying I'll

159:26call Steve right now know with kids see you're a hey he was talking all kind of about what what I mean is it you know it it how rumors get enjoy he likes to talk about drinking jizz I'll tell you yeah yeah he wouldn't shut up he brought it back he wouldn't shut up about that Dr some we had moved on he insisted on he said something about Vin Diesel sunglasses one time one time he doesn't like La he lives in San Diego and so this is Cam sneaking up on this water buffalo and every time it picks up its eyes or it might have caught movement he has to pause yeah so this is like an ridiculously slow trck I think I'm I'm I think it's still a little bit before I shoot yeah wait no no no it's getting closer so I got my Rangefinder there so I can quickly get it cuz I'm getting Clos CL every time cam what do you think about rangef finding binos stop head up don't move don't move at

160:27all if it's coming at you do you hide behind that little tree what do you do I just wrestle it down oh like a man stab rocket what it needs what the you guy you had on your podcast said take down a wolf what was that guy oh dampa dampa yeah he would just stab it in the dick over and over again stab it right in the dick so he's uh creeping up can't what are your thoughts on rang finding binos do you ever use those I don't have any would you I mean like I know like there's some companies that make some that bow Hunters use like Leica Leica has one that apparently has a button on the right hand side so you can range and shoot with one hand this is Adam I don't know what mate that shipment would be a trophy here's here's some here's a good uh illustration of having I don't know I don't know what I'm trying to promote here but a hard-hitting arrow CU if you watch when I shoot this Buffalo the

161:20arrow arcs up and actually hits the branch and ricochets and still kills that Buffalo wow watch this it's going to hit I think it's this right here it's going to Ricochet off that and still kill this big bastard wow it's sort of decept here how many yards you out it's going to be like 40 yeah it looks like it's like 10 ft in front of him right yeah you can you can cuz it's huge should I skip ahead a little bit Yeah skip I had a wee bit L okay back up back up because it looks like you already shot it yeah back up back up yeah back up great okay watch this see that oh kind of touched it almost just barely grazed it yeah but it affected the flight but still went and pound pounded in here and uh that's right where you want to that's right into the heart that's where the heart is do you think you would have got more penetration if it didn't great that Branch oh yeah for sure but still that a

162:2190 lb bow yeah and it's going in 6 in deep into the heart yeah probably more than that cuz those are I mean that shoulder is right I mean it's it's in probably 18 in and that thing is like what just happened no it doesn't know it just it runs into that thing what's really crazy is that cam was saying that he chewed a piece of meat from that animal it was so tough and so strong you chewed it for a whole half hour one piece yeah yeah it's like shoe leather cuz that this is an old bowl a tank these things are you know I don't know 1,800 lbs so you have to shoot you have to shoot heavy stuff so do you think you're going to be doing that from now on you're going to be going to a heavier Arrow or in the range maybe possibility we'll see see how this week or this uh this trip works yeah yeah so how do we get you out Scott what do we do how we get you out there bow

163:17hunting with Cam what's the animal I I'll go on no for sure go a deer hunt with you in Maui or wherever wherever you're going in Hawaii Leni Kim let's do it get under arour on board we all we all wear the clothes and Springfield Utility Board could you fire me today immed please just quit you got to quit they don't know you're they don't know you probably here I'm at work right now you're at work right now punching in oh you're screwed do was a couple of tweets to help help the power business yeah so we should do that though right we should all do that would be fun for sure all right well um Fast and Furious 8 it's at April 18th is the premiere is what it is 14 14th April 14th is the premere listen brother really cool talking to you man I really enjoyed it it was fun cam always a pleasure thank you and uh we're going to go run and I'm going to cry so uh enjoy Conan

164:06you can watch Scott tonight and we'll see you soon bye officially