Tom Papa

00:00confusion if you don't get it you don't get it they're about subterfuge and we're live Tom Papa who has a special this Friday coming out on epics oh oh no way oh what kind of special you mean stand up comedy he tells jokes he's larious hilarious and gregarious so Charming he's a sourdough expert the Sultan of sourdough where'd you film your special Cleveland ah Cleveland's fun I love Cleveland it's a good place to do it I've been going there for a long time and I love the people in Cleveland where'd you do it what place Hannah theater yeah in uh Playhouse Square District kind of thing really nice theater and uh you know I've been going to Cleveland for a long time I like the people there it's got that good mix of you know hopefulness but grounded in reality it's making a comeback it is that city is really making a comeback a lot like craft stores and craft breweries and nice

01:01restaurants and I know when I started going there you couldn't eat healthy if you tried like it was just corn beef and now you know 15 years later there's vegan restaurants there's all these like you know these noodle places it's just it's completely come up but you know when when LeBron left they were devastated how crazy is that that one guy the whole city who throws a ball into a hole completely they took his Banner off the side of the building building and it was over so sad and since he came back and then won it it's changed the whole place I remember how much they hated him when he left I was like this is ridiculous why are you so mad the guy had to get some money but it was real it was real like there's a difference when you go there now people there's like a pride they're walking around like well they have the heavyweight champion of the UFC too oh

01:52they do St Mio he's from Cleveland too and the baseball team went to the World Series so they were like really like pretty but they have the Browns which always is that bad they're bad but they had Jim Brown they had Jim Brown but still they haven't won they haven't won one game they haven't won one game this year the football team yeah how many games they played uh we're up to nine or 10 hey give them some time they'll work it out it's only 10 games no but I really love that that City and I really liked it for standup and I figured it was a good mile marker you know you do these specials and it's like okay this was this period you know yeah and uh I figured this was a good place I'd like to commemorate you know my time in Cleveland and this material at this point and it was good how often do you like to do specials um this is my fourth uh and they come every like two and a half

02:50years two and a half the standard number now so everyone seems to like a lot of guys were trying to do them every year like Louis was doing one every year for a while but then he was like you know what not as good when I do it once a year I I call them uh premise Pilots there's a lot there's over the Last 5 Years a lot of premise Pilots like people just rushing them out it's like yeah that's a good idea imagine in three years what that joke would be right you know what I mean and that's the thing I think even two and a half years and I try and just do it when it's ready but I feel like you can't two and a half years is kind of rushing it there's jokes if they stay in your act for five years it's no joke that that thing becomes something different they become better they become better you you find out where the beats are you find out where the pauses should be you find out where

03:39maybe you there were some tags that you developed along the way that led you in a totally different direction you're thinking about it differently there's a confidence that you have in delivering it that's different than you're just pushing it out there but you can't the way that people digest everything now you can't wait 5 years yeah isn't that the issue is that you have a bunch of Tom Papa fans and they would like to come see you again but they want to see new it's not like the Rolling Stones you know if you go to see the Rolling Stones you want to hear Sympathy for the Devil even though they wrote it in 1967 you know I know but you know I go back and forth on that because I'm sure you've had it where you're in shows and you you're at the end of your set or whatever people start yelling out old bits that they want to see right and there's something I I know that you want

04:22to be new and you always want to push and you always want to you know create that's cool but I think it sells these bits short to think that nobody wants to see these again because I could watch you do that White House bit I know it I I watched you working on it at the store I watched you developing it I've seen it a bunch a bunch I guarantee I could watch that bit every week and like it and think it's funny when I worked with uh Seinfield for years I would watch that guy for about seven straight years and I'd watch I'd I'd hang out and watch not the whole set but I when it came up to a favorite bit of mine I was laughing I was laughing so I think you can I think we in our own heads think that people don't want to see this but they do want to see it some do but the ones who don't and they say oh you're doing the same old jokes that's so devastating that you got to keep moving I know

05:20you're right that does kill you the people that don't like it that feeling way outweighs the rare people that don't mind the old jokes again when I see people off after a after a set and like you know in the lobby or whatever and they're like we see you every time you come through we saw you two times last year I completely go my first question is did you see some new stuff and nine times out of 10 they look at me like well yeah but it's all great like they don't really care like those fans really don't care see I don't concentrate on those people those people are too easily satisfied I concentrate on the the Mal cont tents the people that just can't wait to get on Twitter immediately after the show is over Joe's still doing that White House bit that premise is so tired the Breakin happened in 2015 bro yeah but you know that's such a unique wormy type of a fan yeah but

06:15those wormy type of fans although they're not the the happiest nicest people in the world they do keep you motivated and in check yeah the worst thing that happened to a lot of comedians in the 80s is that they never wrote new material yeah they just kept doing the same stuff they 45 minutes and just rode it out their whole career they had a set and that like Jay Leno still does that yeah he Jay Leno is a brilliant comedian like if you go back to the early days of like the The Tonight Show and the Letterman show Leno was the edgy young guy yeah that would come on and and was was this great joke writer very relevant sit down boom boom bo he put out a show time special that I'm aware of that I watched a long time ago he might have found that and bought up every copy of it burned it yeah I've never seen it he doesn't put out anything now nothing when he goes on

07:04stage he wants the audience to have no idea what his jokes are CU they can never see him on the internet they can't find him anywhere he said that to me once he's like why would you why would you record why would you put out an album you're killing your act he goes you your act feeds you your act is what why would you just give that away but it's a different thing it's it's changed I think the media how people can digest this stuff has actually changed what a comedian is but with all due respect when people today think about Jay Leno they don't think of the great standup comedians today they don't think of Jay Leno even when even before the prior the uh rather Cosby controversy went down yeah Cosby was still considered alltime great like one of the alltime greats right and Leno was in that ilk at one point in time he's never he's not considered that you know no T show guy

07:57do you think it's because the Tonight Show do think if he could have done the Tonight Show and put out oh yeah for sure more material he would have for sure I mean he has he has no body of work right that's a big that's a big problem it's it's everything like there's a lot of guys that are really good that we all know like Duncan Trussell is a perfect example Duncan trussle is a brilliant comedian he has nobody of work like he doesn't have anything out right I know and you know that's kind of where where my head is at lately is whatever you're doing whatever you're hustling whatever you're trying to put out there it's all about making stuff it's all about making stuff that you're proud of so now this is like the fourth one so now I can look back like all right this is this is growing this is stuff I'm proud of and then if I'm writing something I like I I just want

08:41to create as much as possible you know what I mean oh yeah but I Al but but there is definitely that side that you know I you know I came up during an era when you didn't just make an album cuz you could record it on your phone someone had to come and ask you you had to be good enough for someone to say say I want to make something with you so I still have that feeling that I'm not good enough that so I don't want to put it out early because I don't feel like it's ready or it's worthy you know what I mean yeah so I try and hold back as much as possible I don't feel like because Louie puts one out every year that I have to put one out every year or to be so arrogant that well Carlin did it every year well that's George Carlin I but even Carlin I mean it's hard to talk bad about Carlin because he's dead and he's one of the all-time greats but there some yeah some questionable stuff

09:36in there yeah wasn't that good yeah there's some specials where yeah I mean he had some brilliant jokes no no doubt about it but when you're doing a new hour every year some of it's just not up to the same standards as some of your Classics like he has some Classics oh my God the best yeah but you know at the end he was calling himself a writer more than a comedian he said I like to be called a writer and that's how he was doing the ACT he was writing out he'd be at the comedy magic club with his printed out sheets memorizing like a play like memorizing all this material to then take it out and that's a different thing you can put that together in a year but it doesn't have the seasoning the confidence the ins and outs that if you just toured with that for three years yeah who oh my God what it would become tours is a big thing too man because when I do a theater if I do

10:26a theater on a weekend like say if I do Friday night at a theater or Saturday night at a theater there's a giant difference between doing that and doing like a weekend The Comedy Works in Denver where you doing four shows two shows Friday two shows Saturday that's when bits come alive they get those extra taglines they get those extra you're so different from Thursday night first show Saturday last show yeah that first one you're yeah okay I'm doing it you know people having a good time Saturday you're just you're like a m you could just kick back and just there's this in this natural Zone that you can be in that you don't have the you just don't have the confidence you know you have to be out there all the time and I think that's the hard part you know Jay back to Jay doing The Tonight Show he was working on that monologue I mean he was doing 12 minute monologues they could

11:17have just thrown those away let me just tell you this right now I don't I've never liked a monologue ever in the history of late night television is not one where I'm like finally the monologue they dog just go right every joke sucks they're they're mildly amusing at best but he but he would disagree because he he he said that let Letterman was doing a six-minute monologue and people were turning off and going to the commercial and going to the next thing so he said if I could keep it if I could do twice that people aren't changing and I he beat Letterman all the time from that segment of the show The the ratings were strong enough and he held on to them this is just his business mind working that he hung on to them and kept them in there and that's why he was number one all this time well it was the Hugh Grant thing remember when he had you Grand on and he said

12:08what the hell were you thinking right which is a disingenuous question he was thinking I want to get my dick sucked by this hot black chick right and if I pay her money she's gonna do it he's just all shs he knows what the he's thinking but Jay really thought that the monologue was his was his thing and that he had to uh pour everything into it and and he would work on it as soon as that one was over he he would fly off and do gigs in Vegas he was working on it constantly sending jokes to his guy coming in the next day I mean to do 12 minutes of new jokes every day you're not writing your act you're not working on your act right when you get busy and have other projects and stuff your acts you know have you seen Craig Ferguson do stand up I have not he's don't that's what he does now he's like he's a standup he's touring now yeah and he was doing it while he was doing the show I

12:59don't know how much he did before he did his show but then once he did his show like I would go places and they said yeah we had Craig Ferguson last night I'm like the Craig Ferguson like that the talk show guy didn't even know he was a comic yeah and they' go yeah yeah he's a comic I'm like wow interesting did you see his act nope that's what I was asking you because that's what he does now he just decided I'd rather just do standup just he's a weird one man they didn't get rid of him he de said I don't want to do it anymore I know he's one of the and then he's hosting like two different game shows is he yeah what are they he's got this one show where it's like uh kind of like two teams and they do charades against each other kind of a show and he's in the middle of it and then I I did a appearance on his new show on uh National Geographic or hisory

13:44I think it was history and he brought a panel out it was me and Lars from Metallica and and a writer and we had discussed it was like the list like I forget the name of it it was like the list of something and we had to pick like the top five bands of all time and was just like this funny game show talk show kind of a thing but he's always popping up and doing that kind of stuff interesting to see what his act was like because whenever whenever I hear that my first my first inkling is I was probably telling stories about celebrities you knowy Griffin style yeah like you know there's you ever watch Comedians and then they become famous and then they start telling stories about oh this is when I ran into uh so and so in the locker room and you know it's all celebrity stuff cuz they're not living their life but Ferguson I had heard that like he used to write a lot and he was

14:33always trying to like come up with stuff so maybe it's a real act well the people that worked at the theater that I I worked at were you know there the night before they said it was funny yeah so I would like to see it see what that's about but I always always find it interesting when people just they get some sort of a mainstream gig like that and they do it for a while and like oh I'm done yeah I'm done well he got passed over for Letterman job oh is that what it is is that why he quit he didn't get that job that's when it all went down yeah meanwhile that job sucks yeah I'm going look it's a tough job what's happening to corar coar nobody likes him anymore everybody loved him he should have stuck with that other job coar as coar was great yeah coar as whoever the he really is I don't like that guy you need to when when he was on he had Gaffigan on and Maria

15:24Shriver and they were all talking about how great it is to be in a c to be a Catholic uhhuh I'm like check please get the on the show yeah really being a catholic's amazing there's a billion of us I'm like what what really what am I watching like cuz coar is like a serious Catholic yeah I knew that but I didn't know like talked about it on the show like it was bizarre I'm doing that show on Thursday yeah bring it up I'm going bring it up middle show up dressed like the pope see what they say see if it's sa if they get mad at you yeah just wear the wizard costume that's a that's a weird job it's a very weird job you're basically selling other people's stuff mhm yeah all the time you have these little short sound bites I did Conan back when he was in New York and uh I uh it was I don't know how many times I had done the show I did it a lot I don't know probably the eighth time and uh I

16:19was there was the show was over and Conan's walking through the Halls he's got his guitar with him and he comes over and uh I said uh thanks for having me it's so great I love coming in here he goes yeah it's great for you because you uh get to come in here and do the show and then you get to leave and go about your life I'm here every single day he starts playing on the guitar ding ding ding ding every single day I never leave these Halls every single day I was like it really sunk in like was he serious he was serious was he bummed out just a little you know one of those manic moments of you know but you're that's in New York now he's been doing the show for how many more years yeah I did it way back in the day in New York and he had a in bag yes in his office yeah does he get crazy when gets frustrated starts wailing on that thing yeah Network wh wh wh I want The

17:07Tonight Show yeah yeah no that's a real gig I mean you're just that's a different life you're that was a weird moment too in the the the annals of Showbiz history when they gave him the gig and then they put Leno on before him so crazy I'm like what are you doing like what is this Len's on at 10 yeah and then you guys are cannibalizing yourself brutal you have two talk show hosts in a row how do you choose who goes on what show like what are you doing who did that whose idea was that Jeff Zucker I think oh Jeff I love Jeff Jeff's a great guy I know Jeff gave me my first break on television but he was holy cow that was a weird moment well I mean imagine if you're Conan imagine if you're the guy that you get The Tonight Show your lifelong dream and then the guy you took it from they tell you he's going to go on before you cuz your ratings are so so we're going to put him on at

18:0110:00 oh and then you got to go out there and give them monologue how much time went by before they put Leno on before him uh it wasn't that long they don't give you much time it wasn't that long I want to say maybe a year maybe but his it just wasn't hitting well it's one of those things where to in order for a show to develop it has to find its legs the guy like who you have to have faith in whoever's doing it that they're going to figure it out right but they don't always do that they they don't always have faith and then they put tremendous pressure on you and then advertisers don't want to spend money because the ratings aren't high enough so you're bleeding Revenue yeah and you have all these producers and everyone's sketchy and everyone has their own idea of how to juice it up and then they have meetings pressure oh and what's so strange to me in that scenario

18:51when it was all going down when he had his thing in New York it was locked in he had his fans it was solid and doing the same thing in a bigger Studio across the country it was different it was weirder it was airier something was it was also on earlier there was more expectations it was more mainstream expectations like that late thing is kind of like relaxed like Carson Carson da was on TV forever and no one noticed I he's still doing it yeah he's still like you just kind of get away with it cuz you're on at 2 o'clock in the morning everybody's like hey uh we're good we're good see you tomorrow no one cares like all right we're still doing it yeah Ford's still buying time on that show not a disc on car in Daily at all he's very nice guy no but it's being protected you're like protected you don't you don't have that pressure of low expectations being in that thing I

19:36was there for the very early days of Conan because my friend Amir was one of the writers on Conan show so I went to like one of the third or fourth tapings ever when they had the monologue scripted and they had it on giant Q cards it was really gross for the audience because right behind Andy rter would be someone holding a q card and behind would be someone holding a q card and it had like Conan Andy and then the yes the words they would say so they would have a scripted like this conversation were happen yeah would be scripted weird bizarre that's like that czy because if there's a bizarre right after you and now you now you go it's funny you mention that because our next guest is weird as well so somebody had to go up to Conan and go listen we need to script your monologue and then we need to script your dialogue we need to script your banter we need to script

20:31everything we're leaving nothing a chance just that that it wasn't good it was very awkward in the day and I think he found himself and became like this sort of zany his show fun guy is still super creative it's still I mean it's you know not that many people see it as compared to the old days but he they're always doing original funny stuff like you it's alive you know I don't know how you keep doing that for that many years but it is uh J it's still a unique really funny place on television for sure it's his job I mean that's what he does yeah that's his thing that's his gig yeah it is uh it's you know what else is awkward too here's the thing that sucks the most about those shows is that like you have these like six seven minute segments MH where you just sit down and you just kind of force a bunch of subjects into these SI like he had bur on the other day and in one thing

21:28there was like this really awkward segue what about the NFL I know the NFL bothers you like what like they were just talking about Trump and then they just switch gear like super awkward segue and you're looking down at the card yeah just jumps right into it I'm like oh I guess you got to yeah but you know I really feel as a comedian that's why comedians are the best guests on those shows like you should just sit down and go yeah just go I watch Rodney doing uh The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson did a did a six minute set you know standing there doing his thing then all right great and then he walks over sits down and then four minutes Johnny asked him one question and he just went he just joke joke joke joke joke and oh really yeah joke joke joke good night everybody I mean that's your job why do we have to make this look like it's a conversation right

22:18especially with a guy like Rodney he just that's where he was in his element just rapid fire oh my doctor let me tell you oh you know the story of Rodney how he took like more than a decade off of show business but the entire time he was writing jokes but he was selling like aluminum siding and yeah didn't keep the jokes like in a briefcase or something I don't know but he just kept writing so when he came back and started doing standup again which I believe was in his 40s yeah it was his 40s he had massive amounts of material amazing I heard that he is this true have you ever heard this that he had switched ax with another comic no that he wasn't going anywhere and his buddy wasn't going anywhere and they switched axe did you ever heard that no no no I never heard that yeah I don't know I don't know if it's true or not but what a funny dude well apparently the resp like respect

23:10like no respect at all God damn it I'm trying to find out what what movie it was that caused him to change it from I it used to be like I can't catch a break like he had an early tagline and then he changed it to I don't get no respect I got no respect at all no respect and then clicks see see if you can find out the origin of that Jamie there was like a specific reason why he went to from like this one catch to respect I'm trying to remember who told me someone who's like a giant Rodney fan maybe it was Dave Smith was it Dave Smith the comedian that came in here maybe so at some point he was saying things just don't go well for me yeah something along those L it just wasn't isn't that weird just those little words just wasn't catchy enough get her done get her done really I mean get her done is a classic right those things are just they just catch well I

24:04remember when Chappelle could not go on stage because dumb drunk white boys would yell out I'm Rick James yeah it was always white guys too because they were so hooked on it hooked on it I know sorry Dave so sorry white guys too Le I'm a white guy myself saying it but that was that was a giant giant problem like he would I saw him at the House of Blues in Vegas literally the show was a cluster cuz people were just yelling out I'm Rick James it's weird like it's in the one side it's like people love you so much but the other side he's like you're killing you're killing me well that was a saying that people love to say they just love to say I'm Rick James so they would just see him right there and they just want to yell it out i'mi I want to feel it I want to feel that sound yeah Sasha Baron Cohen right how long is he walking around like my wife yeah right right

24:59I have no catchphrases I always when when I was a young comic I watched a guy I opened for some guy in like Virginia it was like one of my first wrote things ever and this guy was really hacky and he had a line in his act and then he would sell the T-shirt with that line oh God and then he was also getting drunk you know as before the second show and he did the second show and brought the T-shirt out at the end and there was like no response cuz he had for he was so drunk he forgot to do the hacky bit to sell his T-shirt I saw that and I was like I don't care how much money he's making him sell these shirts I am not going down that road that's a big thing though for Road guys is merch got have that merch they go nuts with the merch people love merch I'm such a bad businessman I just feel like it's all about the show it's about the show it's about me on

25:49stage this was great I can't go to the lobby and start making change for 20s I can't do it I can't I've so sold t-shirts at like one or two shows ever and I show sold CDs at one or two shows ever and then I'm like I can't do anymore right what is that why I can't you these people already paid to see first of all today they could always get your stuff they could always go online and who wants a physical copy of anything anyway right a DVD or something like who the what I don't my computer doesn't even have a slot for it that's right I know exactly you ever see what uh Pablo does no not Pablo um Gabriel Gabriel no not Gabriel how you all those Mexicans together it's the third one it's not even it's a third one the other one the one no your guy the big controversy guy the uhia mansia he records his set and then he has a guy his opener when he's done good

26:46night everybody the opener comes up and does another 10 minutes while on this disc drive they burn all of these uh little uh what do they call them Thum drives of what you just saw so you can buy the original set of what you just saw on your way out that's smart then he has another guy takes pictures and uh and sells those you can get a picture taken with a I mean it's a huge business the picture taking is gross huge charging people to take a picture is gross yeah and then they put it in a laminate you can have like a degrees it's like going to see Santa you can get the C you can get one copy or you can get the thing in the laminate with the snowflakes on it I kind of feel bad calling him in steal you again like I'm on him while he's down but because I should just Let It Go but the the photograph thing like charging people to take a photograph there was

27:32always that he always did that I was like that is just gross just take a picture with people they're nice they want to take a picture with you not hard to do I don't mind going out and talking to them and letting them take their pictures and just saying hello to people yeah I just can't get into the selling thing cuz you know I hear you if you're sensitive about your work and you get through the set and you've done you put everything you had into it and you think they had a good time let's not judge each other for for another time on the way out of the building you know what I mean let's just have a nice moment let's not make it oh now he wants me to buy a shirt from them yeah it would be nice to just say hi to people too and not have to take a photograph because like I mean I know I understand that people want to take photographs and I'm happy to take

28:13them but it's like that moment and then becomes this pose instead of like hey what's up how are you nice to meet you what's going on right exactly you know like everybody like people can't meet anybody anymore everybody has to you have to immediately get your phone out it doesn't matter what you're doing people want to take like I went to see um honey honey and Gary Clark Jr the other night oh nice late night show Midnight at the Down and Out in Downtown LA sweet and while the show's going on like we're standing there watching the show and people were grabbing my arm trying to get me to take pictures with him I'm like stop I'm not taking a picture I'm watching show love that that beginning of uh of your special the the first thing you said was put your phone down yeah because they're stand your phone you're in your special literally the first thing out of your mouth was

28:58put your phone day can't be in the moment it was great yeah yeah meanwhile I take videos of Gary Clark when he's on stage the other day so I know it's all part of the experience but I wanted to promote them too 1986 he explained oh the origin of respect here it goes I had this joke I play hide-and-seek won't even look for me to make it worse he looked for something he put in front of it I was so poor I was so dumb so this so that I thought now what fits that joke well no one liked me was all right but then I thought a more profound thing would be I get no respect H that's not totally true because there was a movie there was something there was a movie about some some movie that had something about respect in it his Wikipedia says about pretty much the same thing that it came from like appearances on The Ed Sullivan Show and that this is like almost the same thing

29:51he tells a joke right here no I'm sure I'm sure but someone told me the history of like deciding respect that it was based on some movie that was famous at the time like maybe even a mob movie it's weird like when you look at that list hate not remembering when you look at that list of comedians it's like Tim Allen had the oo oo oo yeah and then uh you know everybody does have a little hookie thing it's K oh I'm not you might be a redneck oh yeah you might be a redneck was giant yeah you know that was one of the first bits I saw him in CS steel really yeah no not I'm a redneck oh yeah no oh yeah how pre- internet how 94 oh my God yeah that's when I realized I was like what your family tree does not Fork was one of those really yeah I was like holy oh my God yeah I feel like the the taking the picture is kind of better than talking to them though because I always find like I want to

30:59they'll say something about the act or something and then the first sentence is great be like oh it was really funny I love when you did the thing oh that's good I've been working on that and then I want to talk real about it about the act and then they I always find myself like they meet you and they're like oh this is great I get to talk to them and then you start talking and then they end up slowly walking away when you're like I've been really working on this bit and I I'm having a hard time with the tag and I'm trying to and he just kind of drift away like oh he's not as much fun as we thought Oh you mean you didn't just make that up on the spot so I feel like if they take a picture we' get through it and move on yeah well Jamie uh and I do this thing that I stole from steo sto's idea it's a great idea steo takes photos but then you have to go to

31:46his website to get the photos that way people don't fumble with their cameras and their pH tried cuz the phones take nobody knows how to use their goddamn phone oh take my picture how does this work if you give someone an Android phone you might as well give them a thesaurus give them a book to read I nobody knows how to work a Android phone I tried to do it I had my buddy take pictures and then we posted them on the on the line and they could go get them first of all everybody was so dis then you spent the whole time saying can I just take it with my phone no this is how we do it you got to hire a security person to say that hire one of the security people at the club say put your phones away the pictures will be available online tonight that's the only way to do when you're doing thousands of photos though there's only one way to do it yeah if you're doing

32:26that that's why I sit in the back and eat a salad and wait for the second show that's a good move too I know that's a good move I know depends on where you're at too though like com that's do you like comedy clubs or do you like work in theaters like this place in Cleveland how many seats was it uh there was about 600 that's a good size 700 something like that yeah that was perfect perfect size I did the Filmore in San Francisco that's where I did my special which is smaller than that that's like 450 450 yeah perfect that's good it's good size that's perfect but it's not as good as like The Comedy Works cuz the Comedy Works is a low ceiling like oh yeah had a high ceiling low ceilings or where it's at man those little jammed up like original room at The Comedy Store rooms people don't realize what that energy is such a real real thing it is a real given back and forth you're writing this

33:15there's a it's not a mystical just it's a real I'm getting from them I'm giving it back we're playing with this energy that's why if you do an outdoor show it sucks because it's just poof yeah it's evaporating it's going up like smoke one thing did you have any hecklers no I had three out of four shows people heckled really three out of four and they weren't even being mean they were just they wanted to talk they they wanted to get on the show and I I even asked people before the show I said I'm filming here please don't yell at anything they still did people so mad at them people were so mad at them oh yeah oh yeah and then that creates this riff people like shut the up oh Jesus Christ my in yeah no my uh my people were a little civilized maybe your people more civilized than they're middle-aged women they might oh is that what it is you getting a lot of that I

34:06get a lot of uh I get a lot of family people mils a lot of mils a lot of a lot of side boob selfies at the end of the show drunken lipstick on their teeth oh my God their husbands taking their picture and they're squeezing your ass as they're they're squeezing and and then clawing your back doing the finger thing on your back to let you know they're interested oo yeah excited it's a nice moment for a married man just likeo little thrill go back to your hotel room still likes me put a little pop in your masturbation that night whoa what about her Yahoo that's it that's that's sleeping pills for Comics yeah but no uh but no uh hecklers it was pretty it was pretty smooth it was pretty it was pretty good yeah my crowd's a little wild maybe too maybe I need to CH calm down no they're pass I me when you play live when you just do live then you probably don't care and

35:01you mess with them and sometimes but you don't want them ruining bits and that that happens all the time some idiot ruined Chris Rock's bit the other night at The Comedy Store oh really oh my God Chris Rock had this rock had this bit about cops and this guy just interrupted and and then Chris you know Chris was joking around with them at first and then the guy interrupt it again and then Chris is like you dumb I'm doing jokes up here like what are you doing man and then they wound up kicking the guy out and as they're kicking the guy out it's like what I can't have an opinion like you no you can't you can definitely have an opinion you don't want to interrupt a performance like there's a agreement the audience has an agreement okay the agreement is you're going to sit there and you're going to see what this person is prepared yeah right you know this person's prepared about he

35:48came on stage with a notebook he prepared things but that's the that's the you know that's the illusion that we create if you're good it does it sounds like like it's just happening it sounds like it's in the moment it doesn't sound planned out so they think that they're in the moment with you well rock rock is so opinion heavy like Chris Rock's premises are always like yeah he's he's a master at taking a controversial premise taking a controversial point of view and then bringing it around so when at the end of it you're just howling laughing because he's figured out a way to like he's right he's right I know he is the Master's got some bitter divorce too woo oh I've been waiting for that to come out ah it burns it burns I've been waiting for that to come out I don't know if you had a prenup seems like he didn't oh really yeah seems like there's a lot of lot of lot of

36:42fuel he was just talking about how much money the lawyers make and the wife's going after all of it just brutal and he's like and he was talking about how that's why he's touring really yeah he's like I got to make some money man oh God which is look if you've developed a nest egg like obviously he has yeah and all of a sudden you're getting divorced Phil Harman tried to explain that to me once I was telling him to get a divorce before his wife shot him in his sleep um he go I go just give her half he goes it's not half he goes it's two3 cuz the lawyers take a third oh it's a scam he was he was just like oh my God he was a rabbit about it it was like oh my God I didn't think of that I was like oh yeah the lawyers cuz they do they don't work for free not you're paying for your wife's lawyer too face you pay for both of them brutal you pay for the the general of

37:36the army that's fighting against you you pay for that General oh God General is trying to rob you of your resources yeah and you're WR them checks oh and you've been selling out Arenas your whole life and they want most of that oh God they want the house that you sleep in oh yeah they want everything they want they want to take away memories they want to steal the very Foundation of your happiness and prosperity could Joe Rogan could Joe Rogan have everything go away your kids are fine your relationship's cool whatever let's take that element out of it let's just take the house the cash the bows and arrows it's all gone could Joe Rogan go live in let's just pick New York this is not a City question but let's pick New York you go live down by Washington Square Park in a studio apartment have your act have your fans go do your thing and kind of be okay with a low bank

38:35account or have you got or you at an age now and you've you've had stability do you feel like that would freak you out well it would definitely freak you out if you all of a sudden like one of the things that I've uh sort of uh relied on is not needing anything right so by not needing anything everything I do I do because I enjoy it right so like if I do standup I do it cuz I enjoy it if I do podcast cuz I enjoy it if I do the UFC is cuz I enjoy it I enjoy the money is don't don't get me wrong sure but I'm not need I'm not needy I'm not in a position where I'm like worried about my next check I need that stuff so if I got to that yeah not even need that stuff like need the stuff is kind of like if you have a car and you can get around if you got food on the table and your family's taken care of everything else is kind of it's nice it's nice to a good couch like look we have a 70in

39:29TV oo this is nice it feels nice but watch Westworld on a 70in TV it's nice look how big it is woo but ultimately what really counts is are you nervous are you nervous about your bills cuz like do you remember that feeling yeah that's a terrible feeling worried about what where it's going to come from and what you're going to do but you still have your act you can still go make money but we're going to put you back at square one we're going to put you in that studio apartment could you would you be cool with it studio is kind of small I like a four-bedroom house with the yard and somewhere no but honestly the the big thing and this is such a cliche but the big thing is do I still have my friends MH do I still have all the same friends cuz like if I lived in an apartment building and Ari shaffir lived next door and Duncan lived down the hallway and Joey was the over the

40:21other side I'd have a great time if we we we all lived on the same floor in the same building I would have zero problem with that if they knocked on the door hey man you got any weed I'm out of weed yeah come on like that that would be no problem at all it's like how much different is that than when you stay on the road in a hotel right cuz a hotel is like a studio apartment yeah and right good percentage of Our Lives we stay in a studio apartment a lot I know I really and I I bring it up because I really I was thinking about it and it's like if it all fell apart like you grab you grab on to your lifestyle and what you're doing so hard but if at all for whatever reason washed away and you still go perform and you still had your friends at this club you could go see what it's it's I could totally do it I could totally go back to I have clothes that fit in this big of a closet yeah and

41:11just and just keep doing what I'm doing but in those circumstances I 100% in some ways I think you're you'd be lighter you'd be right A lot of people do believe that and a lot of people do go towards that minimalism life where they give up everything my friend Steve Maxwell he's a uh a really a world-renowned fitness trainer strength and conditioning coach for a lot of pro athletes a lot of Fighters he lives out of a duffel bag oh I saw that guy I saw you interview that guy he he used to have a big house and he had a gym in Philadelphia he had like one of the very he's one of the very first American Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belts and he had his gigantic gym where he's teaching and he's a you know he's an interesting guy and then he just decided he got divorced right and he decided you know what this and he goes I'm going to live out of a van and he got like a a

42:00camper van you know and he lived out of that and then he's like this van I'm getting a I'm just going to keep traveling and now he just stays in hotels everywhere and it's amazing and that's what brings it up it's the divorce see I I don't think I don't think willingly I would do it but if something was thrust upon me you got divorced divorced or some something I would uh I could go back I could be like but you're thinking about it so much you brought it up as a subject like this is something you wonder uh yeah not as far as the divorce part of it but just the simple life yeah because I've built A Life That's bigger and more complicated and I uh you want to know what you want to know what it was last time I was in here I had um I had this back issue where it was like shooting pain down my arm yeah you had a cervical issue right yeah and I was going to uh this really great Cairo guy

42:51I was doing cupping I was doing all of this kind of stuff and it was just making it worse I was just in I yeah I was I was in pain for like a year I was like in pain Greg rogel you know the comedian Greg roel he tells me he had really debil debilitating lower back pain and he read S B book yeah I read s he's like just read it and I got into this big fight with him and this and uh and gnome who owns the comedy seller he's calling him a crack and it's a crackpot and it doesn't work and all this stuff and Greg is like just please read it just read it it just read it and it's you know what it is it's just basically about that you're carrying your brain wants to go to work on something simple like pain in your body rather than deal with issues of stress and anxiety and anger that you carry all the time and basically just realizing that that's where the pain is

43:44coming from you don't have to solve the anxiety or the pain or the anger you just have to be aware okay brain I know what you're doing I know what you're working on it just kind of alleviates that stress and then the physical manifestation of not having oxygen go into your into your muscles and stuff starts to slowly release and just it it's gone it's gone it's I have no pain I have no how long did it take after you read the book and adopted the principles like a month and a half really yeah so a year of pain and then a month and a half of adopting these principles and like what does he tell you to do like what are the exercises that he tells you to do he says just live don't just uh live your life exercise whatever you were doing do it don't live timidly don't think I can't run now I can't do yoga now because I've got a neck issue MH do it live your life don't live like in this

44:38preventative way of I can't move or I'm going to mess up my my body so what does he tell you about like physical issues like what if you have a herniated disc and it's pressing against your nerve and it's causing your hands to go numb and your arms atrophying he says there's those are very rare cases that's not that rare in my world I know well yeah you're right but he said he says it's very rare cases where there's like a real pinch nerve kind of a problem that seems like crazy advice I I know a lot of people that have like real issues like real physical issues it's not a rare thing I don't think to have like disc issues are gigantic yeah because people they don't strengthen their spine enough they don't strengthen their core enough and they wind up doing something they yank it and they hurt it and then they try to work around it and they wind up re-aggravating it and then it gets

45:25worse and worse he was saying that a lot of times you'll have um you'll have like your disc will be bulging a little bit or whatever these little imperfections are and we all have these imperfections in us but when you are stressed and the muscles are tightening around you and becoming inflame because you're carrying this stuff that you're not working through everything's constricting around it so then it's going to aggravate that and that's going to become a bigger problem I definitely think that's true um in some cases but there's like there's legit like I had a conversation with a friend of mine about this with the same sort of a thing and I was like that that's all well and good but I know people who are very light and happy people who develop a legitimate back issue and it has nothing to do with stress that they're carrying around it has to do with the soft tissue that

46:13protects your joints bulging out and and contacting a nerve look there's a zillion of us out there and I'm sure there's all different issues for it but back to your original question of why am I thinking about simplifying and all this kind of stuff I I am a pretty light positive person very optimistic very I kind of live in that world but when I just started reading the book I'm like are things really pissing me off am I stressed do I have anxiety because I live in this house because I'm trying to do these things with my career because I'm trying to always do this because I'm caring children and parents and all of this stuff I'm trying to make everybody H I'm just I don't know maybe just just realizing that and thinking about it I know no heavy meditation on it no just being aware that maybe that's where it's coming from I'm telling you over a month

47:05and a half the pain slowly went away and I don't have it h yeah that is interesting so what like what was bothering you before like I know that you're you know you're successful and you had a television show for a while and you've got a bunch of projects going on you're always doing standup specials so you've had a lot of success you've got a lot of great stuff going on what was what was kind of chewing at you I don't know I'm not really 100% sure of what the source is but I do feel like I have a lot of people on my back and it's all it's all quiet it's all in my head you know what I mean a lot of people on your back yeah I've got a wife I've got I've got kids I've got pets I've got family I've got and and that you feel that it's a weird weird way to um bring bring this up but is that how much of that like having a wife and having kids obviously there's there's going to be

48:09compromises and there's going to be stress that comes along with any sort of relationship MH but do you feel like it was tipping more towards the negative than towards the positive um I don't think it was I think I just uh the whole experience to me seems positive my relationship with my wife is great the kids I adore I feel like it's all positive but I do carry the burden of everybody's worries and everybody's well-being all the time I was working on this act this joke in my act before I started thinking about all this stuff I had this moment when I was standing in this house I moved to this bigger house it's a really nice house it's a bigger bigger home and I was shutting off all the lights this is what I was working through on stage I was turning off all the lights one night and locking the doors for all the bad people that are coming to get us and everyone's

49:02in their beds and the cats asleep and the dogs asleep and everybody the lizards asleep and it just all my responsibility washed over me like everybody every living thing here is is uh depending on my success if I don't keep going if I don't keep succeeding this everything here changes everybody's little life everybody's Prof perfect little existence it's all washing over me and I can't tell anyone about it I could tell you the audience but I can't go sit on my daughter's bed at 2 in the morning when I have that feeling honey do you ever do you ever feel like you just can't do it anymore you ever feel like you can't you just want to stop you just want to take a break this whole thing about waking up my daughter with my fears I can't do that I don't tell my wife that stuff I don't tell my kids that stuff I just carry it so when I started reading this book I'm like maybe I'm just taking all

49:59this really seriously and feeling like did you feel extended with the new home is that it because a lot of times I have a friend of mine who did that recently he bought a big place and uh he can afford it but kind of right you know it's like okay think about this now where I'm a I'm a big advocate in never doing that like I don't think you should ever buy a big place unless you're like hey we can get a nice place now and not even think about it it's no we're toally cool we can do it and it's you know I had a really small place for a long time and did all the right things so it's the outlay is no different from my little place before it's all cool but when you walk into a place like that it just feels bigger it just you know the first time I bought a home ever I had this little place in Studio City this little you know I just I remember laying on the

50:49on the couch like I don't know if I can do this I got to sign this paper and 30 years is a long time every time the mail came for the first year that I owned a home I thought it was going to be a notice saying you've got to get out of there now you know what I mean I just was fearful about it mortgages are weird man it's like you here's a bill for 30 years right yeah that's heavy that weighs on you yeah so that's what just brought me to the feeling of like well maybe just going back and living with my wife in that little studio apartment in New York again wouldn't be so bad kids will freak out it would be the kids would freak kids would hate it the kids would have to be gone this Dad you need to be more successful yeah right exactly just take your pressure like a man right exctly why' you downsize who cares if your neck's crooked son of a who cares if your arms go numb I

51:42want to go to Berkeley carry things with your teeth so I don't know I mean cuz it's a it was a little self-aware moment because I do like I said I'm I feel like I'm pretty Carefree but why the hell was my neck so well I think that was something that resonated with sarno's book and I remember uh Howard Stern talking about it yeah he had a similar situation I I definitely think people carry a lot of tension and then that tension sort of manifests itself in physical pain but what I do um is uh I do difficult things I like to do difficult things that are way more difficult than comedy uhuh so if I'm doing Jiu-Jitsu or if I'm bow hunting or uh some of the workouts that I do they're so much harder than than anything like stand like just just yoga class just a 90minut beac yoga class in 104 degrees when you're going 100% I I put 100% effort into every pose like I'm pouring sweat it's so

52:41difficult when you do that it seems to me at least in my with my up brain that other stuff doesn't bother me it's not your up brain I equate this anxiety to stopping yoga oh I did yoga for I don't know 8 years and I haven't done it in three oh get back in there man and I'm telling you I used to walk around like the biggest Advocate I'm like no once I started Y no stress here no pain here but when you started giving those pains why didn't you just get back in I don't know I'll tell you what I have no idea I don't know what the real answer is but in my head it's the class is from 9:00 till 10:30 and that's when I do my best writing when the kids get out of the house and I can write in the morning oh okay that was that was my that's my lame ass excuse you just got to force yourself yeah I force myself just try and write some other time yeah do you sit down and you don't sit down and

53:37write right like you don't oh yeah I do do oh yeah you do I thought you were a stage guy no no I'm a stage guy too yeah well I'm a I'm a firm believer like martial arts I I think that you need to do I think you like if you wanted to be a mixed martial artist and you only wanted to work on your skill I think you're doing yourself a disservice I think you need to do strength and conditioning as well uh I think you need to do drills as well as Spar I think comedy is the same way I think writing on stage and I think there's a bunch of aspects that over the last few years I like to think that I've kind of got my own way of doing it everybody's got a different way obviously everybody's got a different style my own way though is a bunch of things one socialization I need to socialize I need to go out with friends I need to go uh have a drink or smoke some pot with my buddies and we

54:23start laughing and goofing around about things meet new people talk to some interesting person like that's one of the things that I really like about podcasts is to get to talk to interesting cool people yeah that kind of socializing leads to um new Pathways of ideas get expanded what made you think did you think of that or just happen you look back like I I remember thinking somewhere along the line God I come up with a lot of great ideas for bits when I'm having fun with people like having fun with friends or even with people I don't even know if they're you you know occasionally you'll meet someone that's really cool enjoy talking to them and then you have these cool conversations you see this perspective from a stranger that's interesting and they say something and then it fire something in your own brain I think socializing is big and I think that's

55:08one of the reasons why really really famous comedians hit a dead spot later in their career because their their Circle becomes very small because they only trust certain people and they they kind of get anxiety about hanging out with regular folks and just going out there they get they drive limos everywhere they live in Aion they never get to meet anybody so socialization is Big activity is big I need to do things I need to do I need to go places I need to see things I need to travel I need to um like I do a lot of different things I like to try to get as much activity in as possible yeah but physical writing to me is a must I sit down in front of my computer and I write I write all the time and I don't necessarily write jokes I just write right sh and then the jokes come out that premises come out of that stuff more essays I love that it's one of my

56:03favorite parts of standup is just being by myself and writing just that part that mining you know you're just mining exactly and then once in a while you get this great stuff that comes out a lot of times nothing comes out that's the biggest challenge of writing is getting out of your way and not beating yourself up if everything that comes out isn't great y most of it isn't great I think one of the biggest challenges of WR is discipline it's one of the biggest challenges because most people just don't if if you're a writer or if you're a comic and someone there's no one telling you you have to do it yeah you have because you have this open-ended schedule like you could have gone to yoga yeah from 9 to 10:30 and you chose to write right like you and you might have chosen to write because yoga is too hard you might have decided writing is too difficult I'm just gonna

56:50or yoga is too difficult I'm just gonna write I mean it could be one of one of you know either possible reasons yeah it's uh no it I should do both I should you said you know I always try with writing also to not be so rigid like there was a time when I could only write on the computer in the morning up until 10 and it's like that's stupid sometimes I don't have my computer sometimes I just have a pad and I'm in a coffee house after doing radio at 11 so why not do that so my thing now is I just make myself SI down for 2 hours at some point at whatever it doesn't matter if it's late in the day night whatever it is that's like your workout it's like you've got to sit just sit do you ever ride on your phone yeah you know what's amazing about riding on the phone if you uh have an iPhone or even there's actually a lot of them now I use notes yeah notes and um and then

57:47dictate it oh yeah is it accurate oh super accurate really yeah you never tried it look check this out I'll show you right here see right here press it that button right there this is the iPhone I got an interesting story about this in go off yeah that's in notes watch I press the voice thing Tom Papa is a bad bam wow amazing right that's so true this dude he writes in the morning when he's supposed to be taking yoga his neck's all up and he doesn't know why but he's a good guy and he's hilarious go see him this Friday on epics thanks Joe bam Sal arious yeah that's all right it's not perfect no but that's pretty good meanwhile what the is solarus I know that's a pretty badass word it keeps it keeps dictating while we're talking it's getting this whole it just said what the is hilarious do you do that when you're driving yes that's how I do text if I have to if I'm

58:43driving I try not to do that though what I do when I'm driving this is a big one for me is I turn the phone upside down and I put it over there I don't have it near me when you're driving yeah it's too creepy it's like too many people are driving and not paying attention and they crash into each other I know it's the worst it's way too common it's so bad I every time I'm on the road and I see someone weaving in out of traffic I see the light of their phone shining in their eyes and they're trying to text where they're driving it's so dangerous I know and you know my uh daughter is my older one is 14 which means she can get a permit next year like 15 and a half does she text she's not crazy phone she's you know she's like a normal kid she's not like really obsessed with it but I just it scares the hell out of me once they start getting in relationships yeah when

59:32that's when things get so yes so crazy all the that the energy involved in relationships for young kids you think about a young kid they go from being 11 where hopefully there's no at all yeah to 15 where that's all you're thinking of yeah just in you know 40 something months and then and then he doesn't call you or like you or there's a problem and you're waiting you're checking your phone every two seconds to see the response I want to die and now you're driving to go pick up milk for your mom yeah and you hear a ding and you reach over to check it boom hit a tree I can't yeah my neck just started hurting again ma oh your arms numb massive massive hormones raging through your body telling you to get pregnant telling you to get someone pregnant could you imagine if we had phone when we were going through puberty could you imagine all the dick piics that you would have my God wait the

60:31begging the begging of girls to show me something do something take a picture of it please my God we'd be out of I don't know how would but on the other hand you'd be wiser yeah because you'd be able to Google things I mean how many bullshitters did we know growing up that just would lie and make stories up oh my God yeah those people are out of business I know but not necessarily have you been paying attention to fake news yeah big time all the fake news stories uh big time it's crazy like I didn't realize until this pizza gate thing which by the way it's very controversial what's fake and what's not fake about pizzagate because pizzagate is connected to that John podesta guy who is a very controversial character who's still friends with that Dennis hasard guy who was the Speaker of the House who's absolutely a pedophile yeah absolutely a confirmed serial

61:31pedoph pedophile admitted yeah admitted so the fact that that guy's friends with that and then also Andrew Breitbart apparently in 2011 was made a tweet about podesta being um a guy who helps people who kids yeah and it was like he made this crazy tweet about him in 2011 which 5 years later after Breitbart is dead it's uh it's very interesting to read that tweet and say well what did he know about podesta before all this Spirit cooking and all this craziness came out with the the Hillary campaign right he knew something you know and it this is yeah like P up pull up the tweet this is from 2011 how Prague Prague like Progressive Guru John podesta isn't household name as worldclass underage sex slave cover uper defending unspeakable drgs Escapes Me Now this was of course when Hast was about to get convicted so he's been friends with hastur Forever hastur by the way was the speaker of

62:42the house yeah and he had been kids for years so anybody who doesn't think that it can reach you could be a pedophile and cover it up and reach high levels of government you are mistaken it is possible pen State football program exactly but that guy obviously wasn't government but but did work with a lot I mean he had a goddamn charity yeah a lot of people trust sanduski would would work with young kids and take them on the road and them aay monster a um but the point is like fake news this podesta thing and this uh H I mean who knows what's real and what's not real is my point is cuz like this fake news thing is what people are calling Pizza gate this whole this Comet Pizza thing so some guy walked into that Comet pingpong Place uh yesterday with a loaded assault rifle and uh an AR and shot around in the ground at in the building pointed a gun at the uh employee and

63:44demanded to know like where the sex dungeons were really yeah cuz he he was convinced that they're they're kids in this place oh my God here's the thing with the fake news I had this discussion with uh with my daughter actually and um we were talking about like how are we just entering an era where you're never going to know what's real and what's not like thing is going to be so sophisticated on both sides that you're never going to be able to parse it and she had a great Point she said you know when we do papers at school and my wife who's um in college now uh when they do papers for school they have to because of the internet because there's so much stuff you have to um provide the sources for where your information is coming from when you're writing these papers you have to have a legitimate Source attached to any of the facts that you're putting in there so that they know that

64:40you did the research and stuff and there's point being there's like real there will always be really legitimate new sources where you can site that people agree that this is a uh a place where it's been um filtered or not filtered but it comes from a newsworthy source you can't just spew stuff and just put you know such and such website and have that pass in a in an academic setting right you know what I mean like there is a there that little way of parsing the truth will probably end up being the way that we all parse the truth I agree with you to a certain extent I think that like legitimate studies and things that were done by legitimate researchers where they have peer-reviewed studies and everything's been vetted out but news sources are so suspect now like what we saw from this past election whether you support Trump or whether you support Hillary support

65:41anybody what I've saw from this election is very little unbiased truth what I saw was a lot of whether it's pro- Hillary or anti-hillary prot Trump or anti-trump I saw a lot of edit torial influence yeah and you saw that on television you saw that in the New York Times you saw that in the Washington Post you saw that in what we would think of as legitimate news sources without bias they're not they're just not anymore and you know there's some certain people that felt like as a person with their own point of view and perspective and and thoughts on the the burden that one carries by having a voice that it's imperative that they get out what they believe about certain candidate especially with trump it could be slanted but there's still there still is did this thing happen or not happen you know what I mean did that tax return really right was that information like

66:38did we all see it you know what I mean you can slant things and you know Fox can push danger things that's dangerous even that's dangerous because you could take one aspect of it and completely ride it into the ground and make it look like here's one thing they were they kept harping on about the all these conspiracy the theories about Hillary being ill she falls asleep while she's standing up that's ill right she's not healthy like and they would try to that was editorial influence on the fact of her being an old lady who fell down in 2012 and got brain damaged cracked her head open was like literally according to Bill Clinton was convalescing for six months this is his perspective on he said she was in real bad shape and it took her 6 months to get out of it there was the Wikileaks uh emails that showed that she had a seizure in 2015 during the presidential campaign

67:37she's at that 911 memorial she passes out and all those six security people scoop in and catch her because they were they were quick like it's happened before right like this is not this is not an unusual occurrence I don't think I think they did a real good job of covering it up but there was so many media stories that were talking about the conspiracy theory of her being ill or that that there was so much um so many people were latching on to her health and obviously she showed in that debate that her health was fine well first of all she's on drugs they put her on mapel that was another thing that was listed in the Wikileaks she's taking provil she's taking this uh this stimulant that they give to fighter pilots to keep them from falling asleep it's a drug for people that have narcolepsy like she's on this right so like yeah that's probably why she looks

68:28stimulated she's she's artificially propped up so this is a this is to me was a big sticking point it's like I'm not I'm not anti Hillary I'm anti a lot of the things she stands for but I'm not pro Trump I watched that I was like well you're not being honest with me she's you're not supposed to fall asleep while you're standing up if you fall asleep while you're standing up there's a real problem yeah and you shouldn't be doing anything you should be in bed you should find out what's wrong with you you you should you definitely shouldn't be running the world right just propping you up I really felt like every time you'd see her walking out towards the podium that the biggest the biggest worry of hers was not tipping over yeah did you he fall in the jet when she got to the top stairs of the Jet and she tipped forward and went on camera did you ever see that Jamie I

69:15never saw that watch pull that video up and she can't walk why was trumping sobly had a little bit of a cold the guy was working all the time I don't know maybe does coke are you worried about sessions coming in and ending all of our po fun look at her first of all she can't walk without holding on to that railing she's clutching that thing that's hard for everybody she gets to the top she's slowing down look she's slowing down top St she's probably all light Heaven headed all right here we go she can't walk bro so funny to watch just this is not good none of this is good fall down catch the out of here doesn't fall like that I sometimes coming off the stage at The Comedy Store I have to make sure my foot's planted I turn around and I go like this I'm fine it's hard walking around that was a lot of steps nope that was a lot of steps my mom you want to run the Free World well your mom

70:11shouldn't be president she's she's like Hillary's age she shouldn't be president I think physical health is is something that you should take into consideration when you have an unbelievably stressful job that looks like it drains you like a vampire sucking onto your neck I couldn't believe both of them were still standing at the end I mean it was so when you think about the travel and the speeches and the pressure gring both of them I mean really that I that I was they were both fine yeah he seemed fine he did when he gave that last one at 1:30 in the morning in Michigan or whatever it was like six that day and he's just like he just kept going yeah fast food yeah he's eating Kentucky Fried Chicken taco bowls Taco bows I remember that picture when eating the taco bowl and he goes I love Hispanics I'm like what in the is this life he says I love Hispanics he's

71:03eating a taco bowl in the office where he runs his Empire I'm like this is madness that picture look at that oh God look at that the best taco bowls are made in Trump Tower Grill I love Hispanics that is so crazy it's so crazy the whole thing is insane meanwhile he didn't even eat that he pushed that aside and they brought him a ribeye sessions is going to come in and end this pot fund for the nation do you really think so that's what they're saying yeah that's not what they're saying what they're saying no no no I've read all the Articles it's all speculation and it's it's based on his F ones maybe um it's based on his past statements about marijuana not being for good people and also based on what he could potentially do as the Attorney General however Trump has said that he's going to leave it up to the states I think that Trump is a populist and I

71:54think that the last thing Trump wants is people more people especially the potheads rallying against him and saying this is preposterous if you look at the actual fear that that people have about marijuana versus the physical effects of marijuana versus the potential Revenue gain by these states look at what's happened in Colorado real estate sales are up four 14% drunk driving is down to the lowest rate it has in decades uh violent crime is at the lowest rate it's been in a long time there's so many positive benefits yeah to the marijuana legalization movement it's amazing isn't it amazing when you walk through Denver the change prosperous oh my God it's amazing I went in and uh I went to one of the shops when I was performing there last month and uh I just wanted to go do it you know I wasn't even looking to get high I just wanted to walk in and buy

72:45something legit and walk out and just see what that was like it how you get high very rarely now how about right now want to do one I do but I can't can't why what you going to do I got to pick up kids oh how I don't I do it so infrequently that if I do it my day shot well you know how we were talking about difficult things that make life easier one of the difficult things I like to do is Edibles yeah you know it's funny when you're special you actually talked about the gummy bears yeah and I bought gummy bears when I was there this is how out of it I am now like I used I used to do it every day you know but and now I haven't for like a decade I'm so out of it now that I got back to my room with the gummy bears was like scared I don't know how much do I take I don't know want to eat a little bit and then you know what I mean I really believe that they're like running an

73:36ultramarathon or something like you should be scared when you take those first couple steps like Jesus what am I get myself into yeah but it's I don't know I'm old school I guess I like it I like to see it and crumble it and puff it and know exactly what I'm doing that's nice too but it's a different thing than the eating it the eating is why do you like the eating it because it's scary before that reason yeah I like the journey I like it it it makes me feel super vulnerable and it makes me feel uh like really in tune with any weird distractions I might have in my psyche any weird bumps in the night that are haunting the back of my brain it just drags him out like get out here in the front pulls him and put the spotlight on click tell me what's wrong I like oh you're going to die everybody dies I just want to get high and watch narcos that too I like that too really so you

74:28do it be literally are you're not joking no no I'm dead I'm dead serious it's the little bit of the unknown almost trippy kind of anxiety like when you eat mushrooms or something and you're like okay let's what's going to come out where we headed well that's why I like the sensory deprivation tank too because you can't run from your thoughts it traps you with your thoughts and you have to confront them right it's the what I call the hard work like doing the hard work the mental hard work is like you got to be like I I one of the things I've Pride I've tried to pride myself in at least I shouldn't say one of the things I've I've done as a an exercise and as um I've done it like as a discipline uh is try to constantly and consistently improve everything I do whatever I'm doing whether it's martial art thing or or a comedy thing and I feel like your personality is in that

75:20too and even podcasting is in that like anything that you're doing you just try to do better and you I don't always succeed but there's a there's a journey and a process along the way and what I found is the hard work is the best way for me to really judge my progress and all those things because I'm forced to be alone with my thoughts and to be at least the way I approach it I try to be as objective as possible I'm my number one biggest critic yeah like I I hate everything I do yeah me too that's why you're good yeah when you sit alone with your thoughts and you think about everything you do and you can pick it apart and find problems with it and that's that's the hard work yeah it's a that's a that's a big thing and and you know smoking let you come in the other door and take a look at what you thought was okay you know what I mean it you think like you've got the structure and

76:12you think you're being hard on yourself and then you come in the back door and you're like oh maybe I'm a little hacky over here or you can take some of this and go through the roof like an asteroid the door you know want the door I got a lot of stuff in here buddy I went what what was funny was these one of these will put you on the moon what's that chocolate oh jeez you can smell the pot through the wrapper I need to know what I'm getting into you're getting into death death and and just the inevitability this the only negative I could see from the these are pills do you see pills want some pills let me see what they look like the only negative I could see when walking around Denver was there's a lot of scuzzy skate pothead kids that are like laying on the street you're always going to get that yeah but it's a little different listen that's just part of the problem it's you

77:06know you always get yeah there's always the 14 cats that's always going to be the case it was funny coming out with my bag like filled with stuff and not being afraid of the cops who just wav to me but then the potheads who want it sorry oh jeez I got a got stuff to do you'll be fine secondhand smoke barely does anything I'm like your pet dog it be fine I got my dog so high once I had a um a rescue dog and she was a big sweetie I loved her yeah but uh she had a rough life before I got her when I got her she had mange oh manam she I got her because someone who I knew had rescued her like that day and uh it was in LA and they had found her uh eating out of a garbage can and she was she was all up and like mangy and they contacted me and they said hey um just is a long shot do you want to adopt a dog cuz I had a dog uhuh and I'm like well you know probably

78:07wouldn't be a bad idea to have my dog you know get a companion I go you know what's the deal and then they told me and I'm like oh no like wow that's a lot to take on then I went I checked her out was she older um she was she had had babies for sure because her nipples were extended we didn't really know how old she was but she was probably in the neighborhood of two or three but she was the sweetest dog ever she was so sweet what kind she was a pitbull but she had a rough life it was a rough life and um when I had her in my house uh Joey Diaz and I we we uh went into my office and she would come in the office and hang out with me and we did bong hit after bong hit and this poor dog got hot boxed oh no and we couldn't figure out what was going on because she was freaking out oh no she was freaking out and she was like hiding under desks like she would run she would run across the room

79:00and then just get under the desk po like it's tucked in and we're like oh my God she's High the poor dog's High that's brutal you can get someone you can get that uh yeah I uh I think I think that uh I hope you're right I hope this you know what the most interesting thing watching this whole Trump thing like I hope you're right about sessions I think it's going to be really interesting it's I feel like we're watching one of those movies where like the regular guy becomes president and they comes in like well just fix the problem just take the taxes and fix the bridge that's how it works and like these practical like things that you could do like let's just talk to Taiwan and see if maybe they'll be okay and it's like will this work or do you or is the way of operating so amhed in policy and and the way that things work do you need that structure to actually

79:57steer the ship you know what I mean this is really kind of free form really I think you're right and I think in that sense that's probably the most positive aspect of this guy being president is that we really will find out yeah it might be the only way we find out it's it we're going to find out we're going to really find out we're going to find out and also he's going to tell us like if there's some is funky behind the scenes you know like there are there's a lot of talk online about Trump lying in his tweets about like fake votes you know like fake votes cost him the popular vote like he just sometimes he just says right and I don't know if he is doing it as a strategy I don't know I mean I don't know I it's it's it's also possible that he doesn't really believe it but that he knows that if he puts it out there people are going to repeat it yeah there was an article in recently

80:51that I saw I forget what the magazine was Jamie maybe you could find it but it was about a guy who writes the fake news and um they track this dude down and he just writes fake stories like about uh George Soros paying protesters 350 bucks an hour to protest against Trump like he just make stuff up yeah and they asked him why he did it and what he said was he said essentially he started it out as like an exercise sort of to prove how gullible um these alt-right folks could be and that some of them at least some of them would just see things and without looking into it at all they would just start tweeting it yeah you know and and he was right he was right but he started making a lot of money these guys are making like $10,000 a month writing fake stories off of clicks right all off of clicks that's yeah then you're writing fake stories now pass that up yeah no no you're going to just

81:42write fake stories now so like what you were saying earlier about like us entering into an era where you can't really tell what's true or not true and like if that's the I mean that's why it's so imperative that someone like the Washington Post or like the New York Times cannot be biased in any way you have to like as clearly as you can emphasize the facts of every story even if you feel like you have an obligation to show how horrible a person president Trump is just to let people know like this guy can't get in the office as soon as you start doing that you embolden the people who oppose you right like it's very dangerous for ideas in general because you it's so hard like I I'm I don't do it but it's so it's so hard for anybody to completely be unbiased and establish just the facts even when they're disturbing and uncomfortable watch they don't like that people don't

82:34like that you ever watch PBS news sure the newsour yeah that's probably as pure as you can get yeah right I mean that's as purely as factual as we can put it out there and it doesn't mirror a lot of anything else CNN MSNBC all of it it's it's uh Fox it's all that that PBS is just it feels like it's the last place where grown-ups work this person makes $10,000 a month writing fake news yeah yeah this is uh just make stuff up what what is the website Jamie uh this one was from market watch there's also an NPR story I think the market watch is the one that I read I think that's the the the one of the problems with the fake news too is I have a the guy drives me to the airport all the time and he's like no I saw George Soros is paying the people to protest and my wife I saw it on Facebook and my wife said no that's not a story and he said but look now it's on CNN they're

83:31talking about the same story so it is true the problem is all these people editing these news organizations they're running with the story they're being tricked by the fake news to begin with wow yeah Jesus Christ I know it's very slippery did you see the fake porn going on that CNN air 30 minutes of fake porn during Anthony Bourdain show i' like Thanksgiving night yeah it's a total fake story posted it that it was real yeah yeah that uh that was something somebody just thought it' be funny to and did he even have a Photoshop screenshot or something like that yeah that's genius I mean it's you know the scary thing is uh that's how Wars start right that's how Vietnam started getting a little carried away when they created this take it down a notch they created this fake stories yeah Iraq same stuff it's you can manipulate stuff you can create big events off of that well here

84:24obviously we don't know what really has gone on that led to people writing that pizz gate stuff I don't I didn't investigate it enough to know if it's or not I just didn't look into it enough right to be honest that said what if it was and if it is and this guy thought it was real and he goes in and what if he shot somebody who's are you is is I mean at what point is there some sort of responsibility like as a as a culture like when if someone's inciting hate towards a very specific establishment that really hasn't done anything wrong right like that's kind of a criminal act right yeah in a way I mean if you're saying like if you if you pick a donut shop Yum Yum Donuts and you decide Yum Yum Donuts is where the elites go to kids you just make all that up and then people show up at Yum Yum Donuts and just start shooting people because you won't tell them where you're

85:17the kids right that's that gets again this is just if it's a fake story I don't know I don't know I'm just going to be real clear about that I literally have I there's so much and you can't you should look into it no I shouldn't you if you want to you go ahead dud you cannot be responsible for every story that's in the news today you will lose your mind yeah and I'm trying to do less and less of that in my life but my point is we we know for a fact there's a lot of fake stories yeah we also know for a fact there's a lot of creeps yeah a lot of scary sketchy people that are in positions of power and they have been forever and they're starting to get exposed more than they ever have been before so I don't know what the the truth is that's kind of the interesting thing that's it's the good and bad of the time that we live in yeah it's weird everything can be exposed now which is

86:08great like you can expose people being brutal to another group you can expose Crimes by just recording it on your phone you can't get away with stuff anymore cuz everyone's on video all the time yeah so in that way the truth has never been more clear but if it's but then you have this manipulation of that truth in certain instances where you don't have that video proof it's uh it's right I mean it's very conflicting well it's what we were talking about earlier when we were saying about fake stories that it's we're getting to this weird era where you can't tell whether or not a story is true or not like it gets really sketchy gets real strange I think there's going to be this is just pure speculation pure Bro Science nice giving you a bro science warning it's my favorite kind it's the only kind I understand I think now they're doing these things where they're able to transmit words from

87:04person to person through the internet brain to brain like somehow or another I I can't I'm not going to do a good job explaining it but they've been able to essentially put a word in your head and then do it accurately from a long distance away through some sort of electrical impulse or something that they blast into your head like but right now it's like like a word a word I think it's entirely possible within our lifetime that one day someone is going to figure out how if you can do that if you can transmit something from brain to brain like that through the internet through some sort of an interface they're going to figure out how to how to broadcast intention so instead of a language they're going to figure out how to broadcast what the feeling is behind you thinking something like if I say hey Tom Papa has a comedy special on epics this Friday night you should definitely

87:59see it he's hilarious he's a great guy and I I really want you guys to check that out there's a feeling that comes with that uhhuh a feeling like you know I really love you you're a great guy you're hilarious I want your special to kick ass just just Fe but so that's like an intention and that intention is in some way trapped inside a language it's trapped inside like language and civiliz ation and all the structures that we've created around it but if you could somehow remove the language and just what is the intention behind I love you what's the intention behind I would like to paint something beautiful like what is it outside of the words that you would use to describe it in a sentence if they could figure out some sort of maybe icon based or some geometric pattern based language that you can express yeah and we would have to learn that language but it would be an

88:57intention based language it wouldn't matter what your language is whether you speak German or French it's a little like Minority Report then they will take take that you had this intention to kill someone and they come and arrest you before it happens well I just feel like everything that's happening in the brain right it's all trapped in the brain and then gets expressed through either the fingers or through the mouth right or through the body right but it's all these are all these ideas are rolling around inside the body and then they get expressed through something right what if there's a way to get right to them where you don't need to you don't need to do the double Birds right you don't you know there's you can you can express that through the actual things that are going on in between your ears it'll change standup for sure it'll be over for

89:48us to get out now just walk out on stage that guy is hilarious we'll be like a block Buster video of art forms people will still want songs songs will always be cool when you can read mes no one wants to hear your stupid jokes yeah your stupid jokes yeah I don't know I don't know if uh sounds like total Stoner science right there yeah that's definitely a long way off now there's someone right now writing this down is this dude he's got he's on a spectrum yeah but I can do it he's um he's ambitious and he's got an idea you can make it true well if you have those HTC Vive headsets on have you ever put those things on yet no Jesus Christ they're a game changer do you mean the virtual reality stuff yes yeah yeah yeah there's a couple different ones now there's um Ulus Rift I I don't know the Samsung but the HTC is one uh Samsung has one that you slide right into your

90:45uh like a phone right you can slide a phone into it oh you slide your phone into the thing yeah you have like a gogg the the Google pixel is that too like right yeah and you slide it in I did that with uh the New York Times had one they sent like a cardboard one and you slide it in and all of a sudden you're with the refugees in Syria walking down the street you're looking around you and there's people behind you and in front of you bizarre yeah it looks pretty intense well they can do that now like the processing power of phones is pretty good the crazy thing is like you could take a regular smartphone it's not bad but it's not as good as like the the high-end ones right and we're in an infancy of this stuff most people don't even know what it is when you bring it up yeah it's coming dude Duncan has one when you're in this underwater environment and a whale comes

91:32up to say hi to you no and you're like holy there's a whale in front of me you're like looking at the whale's eye you're like oh this is so weird cuz you really feel like you're at the bottom of the ocean and these things swim overhead you watch them holy cow oh my God it's a mind so you can walk in sit in a sit in a chair and watch a stand up show you could you could record your special one aspect of doing your special would be releasing it that way right a great idea that is really sure Kevin Hart's already done it he's probably got yeah he's done it in a football field with a jetpack with a whale that comes through the middle remember when Cat Williams had a line on stage did you ever see that no yeah Cat Williams thank you for being live he's the best thank you for being alive that guy makes me laugh so hard he's funny so funny because he's so crazy people kind of forget how funny he

92:27is oh my God his early stuff like going after Michael Jackson and stuff oh he's so good so good so good he's funny man pure original funny as hell wild yeah that guy's living a life that guy's not worried about back pain he doesn't have a responsibility of he's not worried about getting his kids to school he's just being cat he's getting in fist fights with 17y olds and losing that's right in the yard that kid beat his ass that flipped him around took his back he's like super lucky that kid didn't give him brain damage I love how everybody else was realizing wait I think that's cat yeah Cat Williams is getting in a goddamn street fight with a young kid that was hilarious he sucker punched the kid something tells me cat's not sitting down with that notebook every morning like I I I have to do this maybe I he seems like one of those guys that just flies I feel like he also like

93:23maybe I think he's a little smarter than people give him credit for and I think it's entirely possible that he might in some sort of a weird whether it's conscious or subconscious way put himself in these horrible situations so he has funny to talk about I don't know my instinct is he just ends up in those things and that's what that's the beauty that comes out the end you might be right but I don't think he's just calculated you might be right it might be a b might be a little bit of both things yeah but he see the thing is he's very smart man he's calculated like can't be that funny and not be smart he um said something that I I was like oh yeah like I was listening to this video it was him in the backseat of a limo and he's uh driving around and uh they was talking about before he goes on stage and one of the things that he said was that he doesn't eat anything

94:10like I don't eat he goes you know I want to I don't want to be full when I'm on stage you don't want to feel like that you like you want to have you better off being hungry like you don't want to be slowed down by food I'm like that's a great idea like I I know that but yet would still violate that if I was hungry all right you know like i' would rather like if I had a show at 8:00 and I was kind of hungry at 7 I'll eat a cheeseburger you would yeah for sure I would drink a milkshake really yeah for the longest time I would just eat whatever the I wanted to really I could never do that but then I watched that Cat Williams thing and I went you know what he's right but you really shouldn't eat before you go on stage like you can always have like a little bit in between shows but when you have a meal you go down a notch you just down a little bit yeah oh absolutely you might

94:56be able to power through no if I'm in if I'm in trouble the hardest part about being on the road is when do you eat I really feel like the timing of when you eat and when you're going to perform and all that stuff so if I get past the 4:00 like if I eat like late early in the afternoon and then I'm getting too close to the show it's not enough for a meal then I'll try and uh protein bar it to get me through the show something light that's you know I'm not going to be up there digesting I remember uh Jim Cary there was in some interview the guy who directed him in like Ace Venture or something they said get all of his stuff before lunch cuz once he eats he's a different guy like that hyper Hilarious Jim Carrey you got to get that in the morning because once he starts eating it's a different guy no yeah it makes sense right I mean you get like oh I just want a nap yeah you can't be like

95:45a Ventura Pet Detective you can't be pulling your ass cheeks apart when you like you think about how over the top that movie was he was so over the top like he took over the top to a new place a whole another place you know like people who would say like you know like physical comedy doesn't really work like maybe if you half ass it yeah but if you go balls out like that guy does you tell me that's not hilarious like vent Pet Detective tilt to this day I'll watch that and it's hilarious just hiking his pants up is hilarious what a absurd human being just get the camera right get the camera on this guy with his facial expressions and running around yeah he created this incredibly bizarre character like what the am I watching but it was so over the top so funny yeah he's hilarious when I was in high school I would try I would imitate him his imitations remember when he did had that

96:39set where he was doing like On Golden Pond he was like strawberries I'm not eating strawberries he did the whole whole Golden Pond he did all these great impressions oh yeah he could do a lot of Impressions that's how I would uh try and impress girls doing his imp Impressions yeah he's a super talented guy yeah really talented just the energy the pure energy and he changed his act r with Rodney I think he was opening for Rodney and he was doing kind of straight standup and then said he wanted to go this new Direction and start doing these characters and voices and Impressions and Rodney kind of encouraged them to go for it like you can bomb on my show I don't care that's interesting you gomb I don't care get out there who's about yeah now he's a painter he was on a he was on a movie set once and a friend of mine was working on the set and he didn't

97:31like his performance on a take uh he was just like he like he didn't didn't feel like it was up to his standards or something like that so to burnoff energy he just smashed his car there was a car that was there like one of the production cars he just he just smashed it with aat I don't remember what he hit it with I don't remember what they said he picked something up and started whacking this car and you know this is Jim Cary when he's at the top of the Heap you know they like just let him wreck the car just he doesn't get he's just he just wanted to get some energy out just just smash smash smash like okay all right we're back and then he went did the scene like holy that must have been hilarious that's great do you sometimes think that maybe you should be crazier as a as as a comedian oh yeah I know that feeling I know exactly what you're saying I know

98:21where you're going with that right that if you were crazy you be funnier right like if you're completely Reckless mhm crazy person if you were more cat yeah right like I always hear the like you always hear like the stories like they had to get the guy to the show I was like what get the guy to the show I was there a half hour early going through my notes I'm like what I'm a square I you know when I was young I didn't meditate on purpose I stopped meditating for a long time because I literally thought like when I was 21 and 22 I sucked I sucked I mean I just wasn't very good we never are but we got energy yeah but I thought at the time that if I um if I was moving toward Enlightenment like if I was meditating the reason why I was meditating like when I was competing I would meditate because it would I would try to like move towards a place of of like balance but then as a

99:17comedian I was like you probably shouldn't be balanced because like the funny comes from the people Like Richard prior who had all these problems and was kind of crazy and kenon it was just crazy and doing all those are my heroes yeah I know but you know they're also not here anymore Hicks same thing Hicks same thing you know yeah there's great people that are still around yeah I think the best guys I really do I think right now between Bill Burr and Dave Chappelle Lis CK Chris Rock Joey Diaz I mean there's Tom Papa Friday night Olympics Friday night I was wondering when my name up in that right there I mean I think this is like honestly I mean you can keep going there's a there's a ton of like really funny comedians right now yeah and none of them are really like super Reckless with their life no like Lou's not at all Burr's not even a little bit n no bur super disciplined

100:15smart guy very uh very um hard worker very disciplined learning how to fly a helicopter knows how he's got a license I know Cooks he makes his own pie crust like literally he uses like shortening and stuff I brought him uh one of my sourdough breads I brought him and uh his his wife really wanted uh me to bring over his bread my bread so uh I went and brought it over and gave it to her of course they loved it because it's amazing and uh right before Thanksgiving I think it was right before Thanksgiving yeah maybe over that weekend uh he texts me and he's like dude can I uh can I come I got a bread I want to drop off and he made this uh this like traditional kind of like uh kind of like a cinnamony apple kind of a bread and uh are you the bread testing guy in the comedian world I think he was like you got bread I got bread I make bread too and he brought it over to my house after

101:13a set at the store and uh dropped it off it was a little raw inside he had a problem with his oven it wasn't a big deal but it was yeah he knows how to bake that's amazing I love how like gave him the thumbs up like all right I'm like all right I'll I'll try it out I'll accept this I think he was a little pissed off that his wife liked my bread so much there's a feeling of expertise that people have when you know they really know something when you talk about bread like you just took on right there where you're describing his bread like not bad like you like you have an air of expertise when it comes to the area of bread yeah no I'm in deep I'm in deep IID when I see you talk about uh doing your bow and arrow thing that's what bread is for me it's this meditative small thing small moves to try and get better I'm completely the rest of the world is out there and I am

102:05in here working on this figuring this mystery out when it comes to like bow and arrow stuff I'm like a good blue belt right but yeah I'm not very there's bakers that run circles around me but but you're in it just as much as that guy is what's amazing about the bow and arrow world I would say the archery world is how much you there is to know like you would never believe it it's endless yeah right you would look at it and you go oh you pull the string back you aim you let the arrow go right and a lot of people that is what they think that is what it is yeah but then you get into it and you you understand like the physics Behind these things the cams and the the limbs that pull back on these compound balls and how it's all measured and weighed and balanced and hoit has to come out with a brand new better bow every year and you're these minor improvements of engineering these

102:58things are getting faster and more powerful and it's all about like figuring out how to get execute a shot correctly using your skeleton and holding everything perfect and not having any influence on the Flight of The Arrow like it's maddening it it would take you for a lifetime to master it and would you could you you could could you master you got into it yeah I think if if there's nothing physically wrong with you uhhuh I think bow and arrow uh shooting archery is one of the more easy things on your body like in terms of like you could be really good at it deep into your 40s or 50s right like it's it's but what I love about the reason I ask is the thing I love about this bread thing what you're talking about with that with standup it's kind of unknowable you can get great at it you can be a master you can be one of the people that everyone looks at and

103:50says he's one of the guys and still it could be on that night or that moment or that poll it's out of your reach you know what I mean yeah I love that idea that you it because you know you have something you can work on for the rest of your life right you know what I mean I'll get calls from Seinfeld telling me he's completely lost with what he's doing with this set you know what I mean that to me is comforting because that's what a craft is it's like I can I can get really great I can work so hard get really really really great and then have a night where you're just off yeah there's really no other way that you can um I mean there's no like for a guy like Seinfeld that's so successful and has made so many standup specials how many specials does he have not that many actually he's actually does he have like at least three yeah four yeah three probably three big ones so he's at least

104:51put together I mean so many uh uh late night performances right I mean so many that's right that's right there's a lot of those right like several year for 40 years and then in between that you put in the show Seinfeld which probably took almost all of his time like he wasn't doing that much standup while he was doing that right in the Summers he would go tour in the summer yeah but cuz that's a brutal gig putting together a giant hit sitcom like Seinfeld that must been a brutal gig he talks about it like he went to war or something yeah but the point is that guy that that he has to still go through the same process the same exact I just talked to him this morning and all we talked about was how are you writing when are you writing what are you doing when are you writing how are you writing you doing it late are you doing it early I'm doing it here I'm trying to get it

105:45in an hour here even if I sit in there just an all that stuff wow still 40 years in that's awesome yeah it's the best that's what all that stuff is it's that's awesome yeah that's what the uh the only the only Advantage I would say that the bread thing has over the bow and arrow thing is I get to eat it m a good point you can eat elk though you can it's going to take a lot it takes a lot a lot of work yeah yeah if you want to get an elk or anything it takes a lot of work but I guess it takes a lot of work to learn how to bake bread but it's a different kind of work it's different but there's all of this I mean there's a whole another level that I am not even close to of of the pH balance the humidity in the house the the temperature all of this stuff that's who's got it dialed in is there like one bread where it's like the like if you wanted to get a bow you would get a Hoy

106:39if is there one bread that has like a there's so many like when I literally when I'm on the road I'll go check out these bakeries and like just go see what kind of bread they're making and see what who's doing what in this town and uh there's a place place in uh Venice down by are they the rollsroyce yeah but you know they're kind of yeah they're the Rolls-Royce of bread yeah for this area they're the Rolls-Royce what's the name of the place it's called Uh uh Gusto J I don't know how you pronounce it it's j g s o or gjust it's like Gusto I call it Gusto okay J you walk in this place it's right by Gold's Gym you know where Gold's Gym is down there yep it's right there like in this little shabby place I worked out there once bro I'd imagine yeah bro I'd imagine bro cut in there bro was a good one bro yeah bro yeah bro got a good lift in nice bro a lot of big dudes there bro big dudes

107:38bro you walk over there to that bread there's like this it's like this down and dirty and they make these loaves of bread that are just insane like you I brought that home I'm a hero in my family for making I I bake bread and leave the to go on the road just make sure they have their bread when they're there everybody's very happy I brought this loaf home my daughter was like why don't you do this w why don't you make it like this that's dark I have no idea how to do it there it is right there hemp Nori whole wheat wow look at that look at that crust God damn good yeah that is now I get it I get it now so that's a piece of art that's a piece of art that's an edible piece of art like they've crafted it it's it's very appealing on the outside it looks very rustic in its form like they put the little slashes in it when they were baking it so it has like layers to it I

108:29watched this girl she was in the back you could see them working and doing all their stuff and this girl was back there she's beating this thing of dough with a pin I was like maybe I could work here for a little while maybe I could just work here for like a couple months and just as an apprentice like for free let me just figure out what the hell they're doing I it literally is to a level I don't know what they're doing that's all seeds that's a seed a nine grain porridge loaf yeah what the hell whoa that's all seeds you're putting seeds on it are you not into seeds anti- seeds guy my family doesn't eat seeds whoa my daughters will be like there's a seed on it they don't like it what about poppy seed how could you not like poppy seed Bagels oh they're the best what is that guy he's holding a bunch of them look at that guy oh my goodness that looks good

109:20look at those oh my God look at we're talking about bread folks I don't know how I don't know how if it's the CH the they're changing up the flower or if it's the intensity like to get that dark you have to have a really high heat and be on it I don't know if like my conventional stove could do it yeah what they're doing is almost like burning it on the outside just almost we're at the door of burning it almost see it's hard the contrast in this photo is hard to tell cuz like we might just be looking at some weird shadows where the loaf in the back looks like it's pretty burnt and the one the front looks burnt I'd like to see what it actually looks like in the flesh but oh it's so good it it is dark which means I don't think it's look at that let me ask you this look how spongy that is oh it looks really good we're looking at the side people like what the are they looking at

110:08we're looking at the side profile of bread with like these little holes in it now let me ask you this that's called the crumb butter or no butter um I don't uh I don't I knew it you don't use butter I like butter how dare you if you like butter you'd like butter on bread okay that's where it's its best thing know but there's this other where butter does its best work there's this other stuff that's pretty good too it's the only time we butter you allow it to be cold huh it's the only time where you allow your butter to be cold you spread your butter on a loaf of bread yeah that's when you don't mind of cold butter Martha Stewart tell me you shouldn't leave your bread your butter out on the counter oh yeah tell Martha Stewart you should cheat on your taxes hey that's my girlfriend oh actually she inside traded I was wrong insider trading yeah she got a

111:03little tip I'm sorry she got a tip how does that work man are you supposed to not respond to tips everybody responds to tips they're all doing it they are I don't know you think they're all insider trading yeah of course you like to get them some of your bread wouldn't you you think these guys I'll give you some bread if you give me a tip I'll buy you I'll get you nice sour dough nice sour dough if I got a tip I'd may be like oh look dude we have a big tip you might have explain this to me but please do again cuz I'm yeah um why is uh sourdough have that flavor and why it someone said that it's like it's almost glutenfree that it's like it's not the same as regular bread is that true it is true and I don't really know the science behind it but I've given it to friends I don't know but I've given it to friends that have a gluten tolerant problem and uh they're they are able to digest it a

111:56lot easier Tom Papa using his friends as guinea pigs here let's see if you yourself well they they have have some glutenfree breadcrumbs wink wink just eat it if you asked for gluten-free at this place would they spit in your face like good Americans I don't know probably I no I don't know they are in Venice they probably I don't know listen to me folks bread is bad for you it's not make the best bad for you do the best you can to taste the best while it's bad for you it's so good if that's the one carb that you says this the fermentation time is what the the bacteria that builds up stops the or breaks down the gluten proteins that's interesting so but you need gluten for the structure of the bread so it still has gluten oh so it does have some gluten yeah cuz that's the framework that's making it big and so if you don't eat the crusts maybe you don't get the

112:47gluten no it's in there it's in there just in there yeah it's in there science but there might be some other stuff I mean I think the problem really my just gut instinct is that when you're eating all this gluten with other stuff it's there's so much other stuff added in there that's maybe interacting with the gluten that's make giving you the problem this bread has three ingredients you sound like an apologist it's water flour and Sal water flour and salt that's it so you're not getting all this extra additives and stuff that are in there I think that's what's giving people really the problem think like preservatives in bread that like commercial bakeries use 32 ingredients okay like what kind of ingredients are they you can't even pronounce them oh you you know what that makes you make a good point the FDA had to change the definition of what bread was so they

113:39could deal with these commercial breads that's not really yeah that's not really technically what a bread is if you add all this other stuff it's not really bread okay so like what is Wonderbread a whole besides delicious a whole bunch of fun oh look at this take Wonderbread oh my God and it's popular Wonder plus white loaf with fiber ingredients unbleached wheat flour water Sugar Oat Hull fiber yeast soybean and or canola oil wheat gluten salt natural soy flavor sour flavor rather bacterial culture soy flour cultured wheat starch solids vinegar soy leathan uhhuh hm it says look at this Wonderbread not wonderful for your health the naked label why not just make an article called duh is the thinks Wonder Bread's good for you like that's like saying hey kids if you drink you'll get drunk high fructose corn syrup whoa wheat gluten look at this stuff glasses calcium

114:39sulfate dough conditioners sodium sterol oil lacate EXO oated mono and diglycerides look at this hold on go back I wanted to just that one might may or may not have actually been Wonderbread it wasn't I don't know that it officially was it just says Wonderbread ingredients let's keep lying then we've lied this far fake news baby yeah this is fake news ammonium Chlor where do we we stop here oh calcium dioxide end or azodicarbonamide banam Jesus Christ more look at this ammonium chloride ammonium sulfate n or monocalcium phosphate calcium propionate ammonium sulfate ammonium in your bread Jimmy you must find out if that's real now you have perplexed me I have to pee can I pee yeah please we'll just keep reading the ingredients for right off the bag okay right off so it's all those things that was all those things that we were just talking about so all that stuff really

115:45is in there wow that's nuts it's I guess Boy you know you run into that thing where you say well if you want to have bread on the shelves in places where they're not growing any food like in order for it to be fresh enough for you to eat and not get sick you got to have some sort of preservatives in the bread I just like would one I would like to know like definitively how much those preservatives have an effect on your health like everybody assumes they're really bad for you right don't you assume they're really bad for you sure I do too it I would like to know what the they do cuz what they're doing is they're not allowing bacterial growth right that's what a preservative is so if you have a loaf of bread and you put preservatives in it it's stunting bacterial growth which will eventually take over and your bread your bread will get moldy right right so that's a that's

116:39a poison so you've got some sort of a poison on your bread that keeps it from being edible to bacteria so instead of eating bread while it's fresh when you're supposed to eat it the only time you're supposed to eat it you've got some chemicals pumped in into it what's that doing to your body exactly messing it up I mean what do you think it's doing ah what is it doing physically to your body it's probably making it difficult to digest things you're probably not transferring real food into the nutrients that you need your system's going to work on this thing right anything you put in your body your body seems to react right and deal with it has to deal with it it's probably dealing with that and not and slowing down some other processes that's that's Bro Science for you're but I bet you're BR sence makes a lot of sense and I also bet your bro science could point to that

117:26if you're taking in these things that are anti they essentially they stunt this is again Super Bro signs they're stunting these microbes growing on bread and mold growing on bread but you have a bunch of gut Flora mhm so if you take that stuff and you put it inside your gut yeah your gut Flora has to be dealing with at least sum of that me how much is left how much of the preservative is in the bread while your body's trying to break it down where this gut FL is used to digesting organic material now it's dealing with sodium Laurel icon of clastic right and super califragilistic and it's probably taking out some of the stuff that you need to fight off other stuff in your gut 100% man that's why antibiotics are so bad for you not because they don't cure diseases they definitely do but because they also wreck your whole biome like you have to take a bunch of

118:16probiotics and try and get your system back to operating people have sometimes problems for quite quite a long time after operations because of the probiotics the probiotics which are important to keep you from getting infections but they're not without a price like your your body pays a price for that I mean that look there's been times when you you walk in and you're like you had a bread like a an Italian bread that you bought just from the supermarket and you're like 3 days later you're like oh this is probably no soft I could eat I could still eat this it's like for a week later it's like that's not good how long is a loaf of bread supposed to last if yeah when you cut it it should start getting hard immediately really like by the next day like that that part that part that you cut that's exposed the stuff that's under the crust you know it could last for you know 3

119:04days four days my grandfather lived in a uh hard though an Italian neighborhood a all Italian neighborhood in norc New Jersey oh nice and when uh I was a little kid we used to go to the uh bread store he used to go to the bakery they would go to the bakery like every couple days they would have a loaf of bread it would sit on the kitchen table they would chop from the it had a white paper wrapper pull it out of the wrapper a little bit cut some slices push it back in the wrapper kind of roll it up but everybody knew it was good for a couple of days and then a couple days later my Grandpa would go down to the bakery and get it again and this same place had been in operation since like the 1920s or something like that it's great and it was this uh cool little neighborhood Bakery it's the best and then to you would go you would do that with all your foods you would do then You' go to the

119:52the fruit guy and get that then you get your meat from that guy and it was all it wasn't all meant to last forever yeah you know I think when I think about the time like we were talking about how hard it is to eat when you're on the road and like you know when you're pressed for time if you're running between obligations you have all the these different things you're doing yeah it's it's hard to get good food in your system it is you know that's I did this weekend and I was eating I ate horribly I felt I was dragging all weekend I just was putting crap in my body in a pinch and uh me it's so hard sometimes you're in a hotel and you're like is there a side vegetable can I have a just a side and then no what do you mean no you don't have a vegetable for me it's yeah it's really bad but that's why I'm I make uh two loaves at a time and I literally have to

120:46go back to New York uh tomorrow and I just got in yesterday so wow while I I got in fed the starter to get the bread going and now when I go home and then I made it into dough this morning it's rising now I'll go back and bake this bread and then they'll have bread for the week until I come back on Friday that's awesome that's my job that's my that's so cool that's my job at the house that's so nice cuz like that's something they're going to think about you every time they're eating your bread like Daddy makes this it's funny cuz my kids will send me pictures of sourdough from when they're like at a restaurant with their friends or something they be like not very good your kids are snobs yeah what I was going to get at though is that like when you're on the road and you're on the hustle and you're doing so many different things you don't have a chance to eat well and you

121:32definitely don't have the chance to like have a loaf of bread and take some slices out of it and and then get another loaf in a couple of days like most people are like way too busy but what I was going to get at is it's kind of like what you were talking about before like could you downsize like could you downsize and if you did like would you be happier you might be you might be happier if you did less stuff you might be happier if you calm down more you might be happier if you went and got bread every couple of days or you made your own bread every couple of days whatever is keeping you I can't do that I'm too busy whatever that is might be the problem like we we might in our rush to be successful I think a lot of people I think it's it's totally possible that you overshoot the happiness spot yeah no I know I mean look if if I if I was the the the Tom

122:22that started standup For the first week and you showed me where I'm at now yeah I would think oh pure Bliss pure Bliss and now I am where I am and I'm like I don't know I think that old guy might have been a little happier I think I think that guy who was just doing a spot for five bucks at the comic strip that guy was pretty happy well especially now when you know that you're going to wind up being successful see the thing about like when the unknown is very stressful that's true at that time you were like am I ever going to get on Conan yeah and it we all know that one guy at least a few guys that was really funny but for some reason didn't catch on yeah right yeah I know there's a ton of those guys ton and so you'd always think about them like what about that guy whatever happened to that guy yeah no I know the the Wall of Death at a comedy club you're like where where did all these

123:19people go where did all these people go yeah yeah the store's got a haunted wall you walk some of the wall like guys just stop they just sto doing it to us it's like some one of the scariest things right terrifying so when you I think we have a romanticizing Instinct the human the human animal does I think we have a gigantic instinct to go back to a time where made sense make America great again seriously there is that there's that novel thing every girlfriend you were with was pretty good everything you did was pretty great right that you know all those little crappy ways you spend your time those are fun yeah I don't know at the time you didn't think so probably so much you get in a fight with your girlfriend think about your ex-girlfriend she wouldn't have talked to me like that it's cuz it's knowable right like the Future's unknowable So it's scary all

124:10this change that there was that the country was going under like what do you mean there's these jobs are going away what do you mean we're going into soon what do you mean we got to deal with India what do you mean technolog is taking over my life that's scary no a pick a fence where I go and I get my bread and American Eagle perched on my dick that's Noble it's feels safer you could break it down to an m a Maga yeah # Maga like it's just it becomes it becomes a chant it's just a grunt it's not even a word well whether he whether he represents that or not there can be no doubt that he is the king of the like he figured out like he found like the people that are going to support him almost exclusively yeah like there's a lot of if you could tap into them yeah there a lot you just got to this is the first one that made sense to them I think they were never

125:09politically active for Walter mundale you know didn't step up for M Mitt Romney no but then Trump came along they like he's one of us boys yeah we going to make America great again he's one of us this man that lives in a this billionaire and that lives in the top of a tower in Manhattan is one of us I saw a really dark video um of this guy he he got in a traffic altercation with this black guy the black gu holding the phone the white guy comes up to the to the window and uh the one of the first thing he says he said Trump all the way bro Trump really I'm with Trump he goes he goes you're telling me black lives matter he goes just can't say black lives matter you got to show me black lives matter yeah he goes show me a reason because now you're just saying it he goes and you cut in front of me and you you spit up and cut in front of me that makes you a and he's filming him while this

126:08guy's saying this and I'm like wow man oh man that attitude that like he opens up with Trump he opens up with it it's no J can't I'm not saying that everybody who's a trump supporter is like that what I am saying is that don't even look that video up I don't want to get that guy in any more trouble that I'm sure already in but to to that feeling no you can that feeling is like you're only going to attack that like that specific type of feeling like that's uh no you got to avoid that whenever that pops up like that's terrible it's called hate yeah well it's the the the angle that he went on it like if these guys gotten a legitimate traffic altercation and that legitimate traffic altercation was because one guy hit his blinker too late or cut in front of somebody or something like that if you're a human being with any decency you discuss what happened right and maybe you up

127:04and maybe you should apologize and maybe he up and maybe he will apologize who knows but when you open up with Trump all the way Trump bro black lives matter you know show me like what where where's your head at this is this is how you're communicating with a person well he tap you know he tapped into all degrees of that yeah all degrees of that when when people are being bombard when white guys in Ohio who are going out trying to work as a construction worker and that guy's got three kids and he was told white men are over white men are done right it was became like a trendy thing who told anybody that it it's in all the media just people saying white people are done white people are done different sites are you reading the white people are done websites Jamie I've seen people say that on Twitter yeah even like helping them post you go to Black Twitter though you're always on

128:00black Twitter even Huffington Post it's always about white males another white male gets the job another you going to say salon.com next I'm saying that's a big thing and that people that guy who's being told that the jobs aren't for you it's for these other people that's what's coming but you're sitting there with your wife and two kids and you're like all right look I get it white guys had a good run you're saying white guys are kind of pass a we're done but I got I got Christmas to pay for and I got the I got a but I think that's such an extreme perspective on it that white people are done I think the big perspective the the the most much broader perspective on people that are trying to encourage diversity is that they feel like people been discriminated against in the past it's time to balance that out it doesn't mean that white people suck it just means that

128:47everybody's great let's every bring them all in like that's the right way to look at it but you're going to have the extreme that go white people suck white people stand down white people should shut the up and let us talk now but that's that's always going to be the case you're always going to have like fluctuations inside of a good idea for sure but there's it resonated I think white white people I tell this is uh the morning after the election morning after right that whole night of what the hell what's happened who's what how I get up in the morning we like I have a new puppy I take my puppy outside at 6 in the morning 6:30 in the morning I'm outside with the dog and I hear in the in the distance it's a quiet you know upscale neighborhood I hear H yeah can you believe it ha yeah no way like I'm like this has got to be this has got to be about the election they're so like I

129:39know I couldn't believe it happened either I peer through I was like through the bushes and I see a white Mercedes it's a white Mercedes a guy's talking to another guy they're talking I can hardly understand what they're saying as the guy leaves he's like all right man I'll see you soon White lives matter and takes off this is a guy doing well in a Mercedes living in this nice neighborhood and that was the first thing I heard the next morning there is a you can't you can't say that anybody else doesn't matter you can't put make people feel like they don't exist because they they will fight back on all sides all the time that's a very good point and that's unfortunately what some people hear like if you hear Black lives matter what you hear is well that means White lives don't or that means White lives do less or that means we're trying to call call call attention

130:31to one very specific race only right and even though I completely understand why they're doing it I don't think there's anything wrong with black lives matter I don't think there's anything wrong with the idea of it but I think I didn't have this reaction to it but I know that some people probably did they immediately go yeah what about white people you know like there just that's a knee jerker and that might not have had to happen right like I think sometimes ideas the way they're displayed like sometimes people they do it because it feels like the right thing to do at the time or the right way to say it at the time but anytime you're inviting any sort of like anger or dispute it feels like you want to do that to push back but that is going to come back this way it's way easier said than done but I think that all a lot of what we see from this reaction to to anything that's like

131:23uh aggressively Progressive is like people when they feel like they're pushed like you have to listen to the way we see the world and then they want to go the I do you know like they want to push back and almost ramp up double down on their racism double down on their xenophobia and trying to correct wrongs that could it could come off as being aggressive and bullying to those people yeah especially if you don't agree with with them see like here's the thing man everybody thinks they're right whether it's you're you're on the right or the left everybody thinks they have a moral imperative everybody thinks that they're doing the right thing unless you're piece of right right let's assume people aren't for the most part aren't pieces of they think they're doing the right thing but this is the way they've grown up just so much of it is cultural when you

132:13look at the world today we're we're all just human beings but there's people that are living in parts of the world that must behave a way different way than we are allowed to behave because they're entrapped in a religious ideology that dominates their Community right so it could be these poor kids in Africa that get that female genital M mutilation like how many of them have it done to them it could be that it could be growing up a Mormon in Utah and a crazy house filled with nutty Mormons or you know there's a million different possibilities to roll the dice that you ended up there but apparently people are just super flexible are behavior is really malleable and we're adaptable and we can fit into whether it's a horrible ideology like what happened um what happened in World War II what happened with the Nazis like they fell into a horrible way of of living life

133:10and but that's a possibility it's going on right now in North Korea there's it's always a possibility for people to fit into these little weird little packages so if you see someone that has a weird package of existence that you don't jive with you got to look at it like what you would you do if you were them like how if you had lived their life and now you're looking at this from their perspec no from your perspective try if you can to imagine would it would be like to look at it from theirs I mean it's so Random it I mean especially like growing up here it's like you if you had been born just 200 miles south in Mexico your life is totally differentt so what there's no like Divine it's just you just got lucky that your parents ended up a little North yeah you know what I mean it's just it's it's really uh it's really unsettling it's unsettling and that's one of the worst Parts about the

134:10really simple Build That Wall Build That Wall Build That Wall that really simple sentiment there's a problem with that man a difference between pride in what you are and having an enemy to that you need this enemy to take people down but I mean that's what we're saying before man it's like you if you're expressing fear you're going to get a push back if you're expressing anger you're going to get a push back if all of a sudden you like Build That Wall Build That Wall that seems to me to be a place that I want to get in now right you know and if you're a person who wants to do something bad that's the spot that's way more evil now because now you got a big crazy wall right like there's got to be some sort of recognition that almost like you it has to come from the top it seems like and it has to be there has to be some sort of recognition that look the reality of

135:01our existence here is that we're extremely fortunate and the reality of other people's existence is they got terrible luck right this this is an undeniable reality of babies yeah 100% of the time all over the world right no baby worked hard to get where they are they just showed up they just got lucky roll the dice came out of the right body and now look hey we're in Manhattan all right who's my mom where are we we live in Tribeca there's great Italian restaurants here good schools what a great place to grow up wow look at my onesie it's made of cash so lucky oh my God this is great you know but the difference between that and being born in a Hut in the Congo you know I mean you just got lucky yeah so that Build That Wall Build That Wall I get where you're coming from I understand the motivation to think like that but I really pretty firmly believe that

135:48anytime you put something like that out you get something like that that comes back at you yeah it's anything that that that has a little hate on the edges you know there's a lot of people like you that guy you say in that video you know there just it's an aggressive yeah yeah we got it we won this is our guy here we come yeah scary I've never been in a I've never lived you know haven't been here that long but there's never been after an election where large groups of people were scared yeah that's never happened happy pissed off I can't believe they're going to do this that that asshole's in office never has there been large groups of families really legitimately frightened of our leader that's never happened I feel like Bill Clinton should just step up and just say see this is why we always rig the system we were trying to avoid this okay we were protecting you from your own selves and

136:49your ridiculous desire to have famous people like you congratulations yeah it was rigged for a reason what I heard the greatest nickname for Trump somebody called him Cheeto Jesus yes I've been using Cheeto Jesus that's good just yeah on Election night it was really upsetting my was it my daughter was is a 14-year-old girl who just heard you know she's smart she's you know a high High School freshman and just heard what this guy was saying about women and heard just heard what he was saying about you know handicaps whatever well that handicap thing did you know that that that that's I'm not giving him an excuse but I I don't think he knew that that guy was handicapped I think he was trying to mock someone who was Dumb and he it turned out that the person he was mocking was handicapped and that's what everybody rent with I don't believe he had any knowledge of that beforehand I

137:49don't think he was I'll give you that but even if he didn't know it to make that gesture and act like that guy is just dumb like as a guy running from president it just was it was a bully it was a bully-ish move whether the guy's handicapped or not hand the girls not handicapped well he I think he thinks combative relationships like that or it's contest it's a war and he he'll go out them with his personality right and that's what's odd for us to see that from a president right yeah there's no right so my daughter was just crying she was just crying she's like so a guy that say grab your is now my president I just what this doesn't make sense this guy that says global warming is a hoax this doesn't make sense did he really say that yeah he said global warming is a hoax The hoax created by the Chinese and you really said that yeah and she's like she's like what's just

138:39what the hell just happened I thought he was just skeptical I thought he was just skeptical about man man influenced global warming cuz that's what they like to call it right influenced influenced yeah have you ever seen this the The Ice core samples of like what the Earth used to be like just a few you know few 10,000 20,000 years ago uh-uh oh my God the the the ice levels rise and the sea levels rise and like the this is a constantly changing topography and the the like the natural shifts in the earth cycle I'm I'm not a climate change denier at all ladies and gentlemen let me just get this out cuz if you talk about this people just get angry at you they hear trigger words it's not what I'm saying I mean I absolutely believe that we're up this planet that's not what I'm saying yeah but without us doing that just without us doing that there's been a constant cycle of change

139:29it's a violent place and it's sometimes really really radical like giant shifts of temperature up and down and you know the big one being the Ice Age of course that we can measure like fairly recently this most of this country was covered by a mile to two miles high of ice right miles yeah so what's your point my point is this whole place is super volatile right I mean this for him to say that global warming is a hoax like it's coming it's coming whether you did it I did it if it's happening or the concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make us manufacturing non-competitive November of 2012 see he was probably one of those dudes that believed in the Mayan calendar she's like it I'm going to say some crazy before December 21st 2012 that's it'll all be done that was um that was something that people were saying back then too that was a popular uh he used

140:27to say a bunch of crazy though remember he used to say that Obama was was born in Kenya he was a truther or a birther rather he was the birther yeah I mean he he was the leader of that he would go and and do but see you got to wonder like how much of that is Showmanship how much of that I don't know I feel like we're I feel like it's the chony Gardner thing you know from uh when Peter sers became president right he was like the what movie was that it was uh uh being there was it called being there and it was just he was this Gardener he just he had he was very simple and people just made ultimately made him president he just kind of wandered into the presidency and I feel like that with Trump I feel like he wandered in and now people like well are these tweets genius are is he trying to manipulate us is he really intelligent is he really this I think he just you is

141:18what he is you know I don't think I would believe that he's very talented very charismatic uh Rich As Rich As he's got a good sense of timing and and stuff like that but balling out of control it's kind of this empty vessel and you know the the the biggest are you sure though yeah I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure when you hear him talk about different things he doesn't really know about a lot of you want to talk to him alone I did he was on the marriage ref oo it did you were right next to him I was right there he would make comments about you make comments it was all about husbands and wives and you you would uh show a real husband and wife and then you'd talk about them in these you'd try and decide who's right in the argument the husband or the wife and all of his jokes were about the women's breasts he all of his jokes were about the well she's got you know these big things so

142:07she she'll be okay and then he would turn to me and give me a wink like not for the camera not for anything just me on the side he would just kind of wink at me like we're doing great here right I felt like I mean this is way before I knew anything about him running around or anything I was just like oh this guys kind of scheving me out I felt like I was date raped on my own show but he walked in during that show just like we're going to do great ratings tonight we're g to do great we're going to kill it we're going to do great rating I mean he was always that way just Mantra the Mantra the Mantra I think uh I would be uh I would take it in like it was a show I would think I'd be psyched I'd be psyched to sit next to him yeah but there's a but you know you know how you're next got these things you know what I'm saying like this is great there's you know you get vibes from

142:51people yeah and the vibe was a little like G you know what I mean I don't think you get to be that rich without a little I just don't think you get there I think you stop along the way like we were talking about balance and perspective about realizing that you know maybe you know maybe you should like scale back a little bit maybe you'll be happier maybe you missed the happy spot yeah he never thought about that for a second I know he's like that he's like 70 he's still making deals with Argentina to put up hotels and there was like there was like one deal with a foreign country that was an issue because it was like right after he became president he's trying to like push this they congratulated him he's trying to like push this deal through appar why do you think he took the Taiwan call his in September they're they're creating a thing in Taiwan they

143:37want to make it like Dubai like a hub for international Asian Asian travel and they're in the mix they've been talking dude Trump the word Trump is worth so much more now oh my God that's one thing I mean and that's all he wanted so how do you not not yeah I mean oh how do you I can't pull away now we've made it this is the this is when we take over the planet I don't remember who had the original thought but I agree with this thought it's not my my thought originally but that what is interesting about Trump is that he cares so much about how people like him so because of that the will of the people whether it's uh marijuana or whether it's whatever it is maybe it's nonviolent drug offenders that have been in jail forever for no reason that makes any sense to anybody now that we're if you take and you put someone to in jail for life in 1975 for marijuana because they smoke

144:29marijuana in Las Vegas then that person's still in jail so crazy and you're you're the president now Mr Trump please let them out please just you know Let's find let's find a way to get these people a job they they weren't they weren't arrested because what they did was wrong they were arrested because there was a thing written down on a piece of paper that said it was wrong it's not really wrong there's nothing wrong with what they did like just because it was written on a piece of paper doesn't mean we should honor it so many years later when we would never act accordingly you would never if no the no one in this country is going to go to jail for the rest of their life because they have a joint but isn't it entirely possible that someone in this country has gone to jail for the rest of the life for a joint absolutely especially if you get inside and then

145:12all a sudden you get in a fight in jail which happens all the time and someone dies and you wind up getting charged with murder I mean that kind of stuff happens to people over a nonsense arrest aren't most people in jail because of drug related we just pulled it up the other day it was like 46% nonviolent drug offenders 46% in jail it's a lot it's insane but the thing is like you say he wants to be popular and he wants to be well liked and all the thing we're going to find out is on what level does is he looking for that approval is it from the masses saying this stuff or is it the guy the last guy that came in if is it sessions that comes in and says I think that we should we should go this way and he wants to earn the respect of that guy you have a lot of forces coming in that we didn't vote for that are going to be controlling a lot because he's going to

146:04be just kind of delegating it out we don't really know where he stands it's that's the most scary thing is that it's kind of unknowable we don't know how much in control he's going to be are these other people going to come in and fill that vacuum and they're going to be in control well that was the big argument against the ndaa the national def what National Defense authorization Act is that what the IND that was the one that allowed for indefinite detainment you don't need a warrant you can just arrest people and and detain them indefinitely without they don't have to have a speedy trial the right to a speedy trial has been revoked and everybody was like well that's fine because Obama's not going to use that right well then the question was like okay Obama might not be using it but what happens if a new president gets into office and he's crazy everyone's

146:47like don't worry that's not going to happen well guess what yeah you up Donald Trump has the ndaa on his side he can use it now and add to that an incident add to that some kind of 911 and then he really takes advantage of it you never know you never know you never know um one thing that should be taken into consideration though is that he's a businessman and one of the things about things like legalizing marijuana or going against legalized marijuana it doesn't make sense from a business standpoint because there's too many of us that smoke it mhm like Jamie put up the numbers like what percentage let's just take a guess here Tom Papa uhuh what percentage of Americans do you think smoke marijuana what percentage of adult Americans smoke marijuana I would put it at I'm going to put it like smoke it on the regular that once a month more than once a month more than once a month I would

147:41say that that number is at 46% I bet you're right I was going to go in the 40s too I was going to say like 43 yeah yeah but I think 46 rang in my head too yeah that's a good number I think you're dead on that's what I would guess it's hard stat to find maybe Gallop pole Gallop Poes are let's go with it anyway what does it say it says one and eight us adults say they smoke marijuana how dare they one in eight people dumb enough to answer a poll meanwhile 4 it's loading I had a whole bit in my ACT it's based on a true poll where 46% of the people believed in the creationist account of the earth and that the Earth was less than 10,000 years old 46% 46% 46% but it was a Gallop Poole so it's 46% of the people that answer the poll that was the whole bit in my ass right right it's like how ridiculous that's that's not you're not getting a good test group right actually

148:35answering the question yeah people are answering the phone right and they're talking to you about some stupid 4% said they have tried it okay so that's 43% if it was legal it wouldd be smoking pot yeah one and a currently use it except for a few that couldn't handle the truth out of a thousand people so you can't handle the truth yeah it's not that many but it's enough to put a lot of uh tax dollars into the economy it's it's a tremendous amount of money I know if it's really 40 whatever the hell it is percent tried it what was the percentage that tried it once 43 43 dude that's the number I guessed crazy man that's pretty good that's crazy to another question shut the up dude why you ruining it I in um yeah don't if you got those people against you voting wise that's a pretty significant people like the stoner dollar has been ignored yes but you say who make those decisions

149:33as a businessman but the other people that are fighting against that are all the pharmaceutical companies and they have a lot more money than these kids smoking pot right so that businessman walks into his office and says hey this is the way it's really going to go this is what we really need you think that is permanent though isn't it possible that the people acting collectively have more more influence collectively financially than a corporation no if it's been exposed impossible never yeah it's not going to get any better because of the internet maybe transparency that right now the corporations have a lot more power right right now right now but you know you watch uh you know Elon Musk is not been torn down yet they're coming at him oil wants to stop him they want to stop him from selling his cars they want to do all this stuff but he's the will of the people is kind of protected him

150:28put him through you know Iron Man's going to be president right I hope so I hope so he's the liberal's last chance bring it back around we need egg heads running this thing we tried it didn't work he's got a little mix of both doesn't he don't you want to see what happens with the Trump thing what if he can break down the structures we're to the point that's my hopeful part is like you know we are a revolutionary people let's tear some stuff down and let's not be afraid to break down some walls and let's shake things up and move that's a little bit of a revolution break this system that is broken anyway but let's just hope that it's safe let's hope that it's not empowering the wrong people he's he's really interesting what he's been trying toh say about lobbyists too but when you know how long you need to take a break after a job in government govern before

151:20you should be lobbyist that sounds good lot of lot of good ideas that's not so bad who knows that's okay let's see and then comes in I'm rooting for him 2020 he comes in riding the wave Elon can't do that he's we're going to be do it we're going to be on Mars by then going Mars he's getting the Mars keep blowing up those Jets keep blowing up he's getting he's getting the Mars they blew up the satellite for the African kids they were going to get the internet for the African kids so they could send the dick piics through the air it's all right and uh you got to fail you got to you got to failed to succeed it wasn't um the Facebook thing yeah it was Zuckerberg's satellite for uh internet access still he's got money he get another one maybe SpaceX is doing just fine he's going to defund NASA they say SpaceX is going to kick ass glad you brought that up because he was also a

152:08victim of some fake news there was some fake news articles that were written about him that people actually quoted oh on Elon or yes on Elon and about how much Elon Musk made off of the government and like how much his uh his businesses lose uh money and it was uh an anonymous account like some they try to trace the name of whoever had written this article or more than one article and they they couldn't find who the writer was like somebody it was a fake name the the story didn't Jive the numbers didn't pan out you need real journalists to do that stuff that's that's going to be the key I want to know what the story is because I'm just talking about it and very so find out what that story is Jamie if you could find out the fake news story story about Elon Musk he's the greatest he got in a he got somebody wrote something I'm 96% yeah sure I know what the I'm

152:58talking about here I'm 43% sure you do wow I'm so much so much less confident now Trump up know something you can see it in my eyes say with authority Elon Musk calls out the fake news troll called him a National Disgrace oh yeah yeah it is a fake news story okay so what was it at least we identified fake news that's SC right the trctor comes wrapped up in the package of a legitimate journalist yeah there it goes he's being trolled by a uh what's that word shamic shamic God I don't remember what that word is what is that which word Chic CI shamic c h i m r i c what does that word mean where is it right there by a shamic writer calling himself steer shepher Stewart see that right after the being trolled by sheric writer go Jamie Google that word it's like CH that L look up in dictionary what's that say um look it up in a dictionary what are you doing let's see cool word looks like a

154:07little animal look at that little thing little furry sucker shim shimis or Shima is a single or thanks Jamie relating to derived from or or being a genetic or it's genetic material okay go back to last one I was just read like a rat are they saying is rattie click on that one we were just reading yeah the whatever the one was that you had right before that one well it's okay let's let's just look at it right there but scroll down that little definition on top is a little bit more lengthly there we go so a single organism composed of cells from different zygotes oh okay so single cell like an amoeba hold on stop go back this can result in male and female organs two blood types or subtle variations in form okay now go back to that story again okay a chamic writer calling himself Shephard Stewart so trolled by this one-celled organism writer yeah so that's an insult I get it yes okay in

155:20the wake of the 2016 US presidential election two major issues Rose to the surface dissemination of information fake news and accusations of bias journalism okay so Elon Musk can anyone uncover who is really writing these fake pieces that's cool call asking for the internet to help yeah his can't be this guy his work is better than that and then they they click on that article click on that article and finance see if they took it down that's pretty great great Elon Musk versus the trolls oh okay they switched it to this so it's just essentially Elon Musk calling out this guy for the fake article I don't think the fake article's up anymore I think the uh he's the coolest but I think that's just what you can do now if this guy who was we were reading about earlier this guy can get 10,000 bucks a month Yeah by just making stuff up just make up stories they made

156:13somebody made up an article about me getting in a fight with a mountain lion that I I killed a mountain lion at the ice house really ridiculous my sister called me up and asked me if it's true oh my God but they just do that all the day so if they do that all the day you know Jodie Foster visited by real aliens if they do that you know like and then you have her sitting there talking about it like if you're a dumbass you're going to send that to your friend dude jod Foster is coming out man finally the agenda is being known the aliens are real they're here bro I knew it yeah and you just keep putting them out one of them's going to stick right I mean in my head bro better definition oh another definition unreal imaginary Visionary a chical terrestrial Paradise hm wildly fanciful highly unrealistic chical plan interesting unreal imaginary or Visionary so it was an imaginary

157:04writer Elon Musk well it sounds like a real writer with an imaginary name so it's just a pseudonym essentially a pseudonym we don't know who the person is I wonder if like businesses hire people to do things like like that to discredit them yeah you know like if you're Ford and the Chevy guys are just getting a little too cocky and there was some dude like Henry Ford type character over at Chevy yeah like some magnanimous gigantic Larger than Life figure you start writing some fake about him pawning money off the government and eating pizza at this place where they have pedophilia artwork in the old days they called it yellow journalism the heurst newspapers they'd plant fake stories in the papers and people would think that they were true and you try and take down Titans of business that you were competing against and all the rest of it it's always existed well you know that's what

157:57William Randolph Hurst did against marijuana oh that's how marijuana became illegal really you didn't know no I did not dude you don't know the full Stoner Bible story no it's the biblical creation story of the stoner myth really yeah this is what it is year that would been 1930s post um right after prohibition alcohol prohibition the what happened was they came out with a machine called a decorticator and the decorticator allows them to process hemp fiber more easily with this machine it cranks it through this hemp is this spectacular fiber yeah like a buddy of mine had a Hemp stock over his house my friend Todd McCormick and he's like pick it up man and I picked it up I was like whoa it's light like balsawood but hard like a mahogany W it's weird it's a very very strange kind of no no no no because Bamboo's Hollow it makes sense that it's light this is like a thi it was like a

158:49stock like a wrist side like my wrist stock that's bamboo that's the hemp plant yeah like you can get it in there's there's different forms of it like and see that one in the upper right hand corner like that this what he had he had it like that so you would pick it up it'd be super light but ridiculously hard he's like dude it's alien it's an alien plant Todd's very very smart he's written books on growing marijuana he was like one of the first guys to ever get arrested for um growing medical marijuana and then when he went to court he found out he was not even allowed to use the term medical really so you're not allowed to say it because they don't believe in it federally so even though it was legal in California what they did was they prosecuted him with federal laws which which don't allow for the even the phrase medical marijuana he wasn't even allowed because it was a

159:40federal trial he wasn't even allowed to mention that it was legal in California so the people who are the in the jury they they get this totally skewed perspective of what happened ah and you have to vote on it you know as a juror you have to decide based on the law and the law is federally it is illegal there's no such thing as medical marijuana so you can't even bring it up and if you brought it up it's like contempt of court and H started all this he started it and what happened was when they came out with a decorticator William randoff Hurst owned paper mills and he also own these forests of trees that they would convert into paper he made his own newspaper and printed on that paper and then Popular Science magazine had a cover that said hemp the new billion doll crop and it was all about the invention of the decorticator and how now they'd be able to effectively

160:31process this hemp because they used hemp forever because they didn't have a cotton genin then when they came out with the cotton J A lot of people shifted over to Cotton because especially at the end of slavery because it wasn't really financially sound to like spend all that time processing all that that fiber to get cannabis or to get uh canvas where when you could just get it out of cotton it' be like way easier now with this uh cotton Jin the cotton Jin so that changed the game and then the decorticator changed the game again yeah and that's when William Randol first came in and he started writing all these stories about well telling people to write stories I'm sure telling people to write stories about this new drug called marijuana it's forcing blacks and Mexicans to have sex with white women and rape white women and marijuana wasn't even a name

161:20for the can for cannabis the word was a wild Mexican tobacco that was where that's what marijuana originally was oh really so then when you called it marijuana they weren't like the original if you talk to Mexicans about it they be like what the f like back then they be like what the you talking about like that's that that wild tobacco type wow they called it marijuana cuz cannabis was something that everybody had used they used it for a textile they used it for oil they there was so many people that were using it already for clothes canvases canvas is based on the word cannabis jeez they used it for cloth it's a it's a crazy cloth man and it works it's really hard to break like if you get a hold of like I have a ghee that this uh datsusara made me a uh Jiu-Jitsu ghee made out of hemp they sell these hemp GES these things are like indestructible man yeah there's something about like

162:11when you take hemp and you turn it into a fiber or into rather a cloth or into a paper it's crazy how durable it is so why didn't so then he got laws passed to criminalize it exactly and do all that yeah you had to have like a tax stamp to grow it for hemp and it got became more increasingly more and more difficult why were why so they were never able to separate it as a drug and a thing no because it's too close it's too closely related genetically you know it's like it's basically you could you know there's different strains of it that they grow it where it's specifically not psychoactive but all the male plants are not psychoactive it's only the Fe female plants that have the flowers right and you can contaminate female plants and there's like some sort of a process that they have to do when they're growing them to keep them from changing each other poate each other yeah they can

163:00like if you have too many males with females they can actually up the females right they can like it's really kind of crazy right but that's the only stuff so I guess the the issue would be you would have somebody that was pretending they weren't growing the psychoactive stuff and that they were only growing but they were also selling it as a drug and then you would have an issue there legally right well I mean you know when you find out like Hurst putting out those stories you know to get his way and then you know big tobacco was put all these documentaries come out like 30 years later of all these stories this guy was hired was that one where the these this small group of scientists were like oh they it was from the tobacco they were putting out stories about that tobacco's good for you and all this kind of stuff and they're going to take away your and then

163:46they they're that all dried up and now on climate change yes now now those same guys those same organizations are putting out fake news and being Talking Heads for against global warming it's a it's a documentary there's a documentary on it what it's called Ministers of Doubt is that it yeah yeah yeah believe that's it yes I think it's called Ministers of doubt I mean so sure yeah these this this fakeness has been happening forever forever and driven by money if you have a lot of people that have a lot of money that's why if someone becomes president and then wins the president-elect like Trump and then tweets something that's not true about him losing the popular vote because millions of people voted illegally right when you say stuff like that that's why people get scared and nervous because there's a long history of people who have what you're going to have Donald

164:37Trump is going to have ultimate power y he's going to have that position the the position of ultimate power but with that comes just a massive massive responsibility so for him to continue to do stuff like that which is like a strategic FIB he got to kind of let all that go just like he said he was going to let all of his businesses go he's going to let his family run his businesses he's going to completely step away I urge him let all that other stuff go too like try to try to rise to this crazy position was he one of 40 how many people have been president now what is he 406 4 46 46th yep 45th or 46th think that's right Merchant doubt not ministers oh merchants of Doubt thank you merchants of doubt it was a great documentary so when he tweets about Alec Baldwin again on Saturday night what does he say he said watched tried to watch SNL again so not funny total fail

165:34totally biased fail you know come on man he's got to realize it's funny it's funny man is he doing that because he doesn't want people to talk about Taiwan this is the funny discussion it's like is he brilliant or is he just crazy that's really what dealing with is he so Savvy that he wants everybody not to pay attention to the Taiwan phone call and changing Decades of how we treat Taiwan or is that why he tweeted to get divert us or is he just Taiwan was one call and this tweet is another thing yeah it's that I think it's that the Taiwan thing he just avoid it just not talk about it like what is he doing what did he do with Taiwan he he contacted Taiwan he says they Conta and that's he tweets his defenses they called me oh uh they what's the problem you you uh the policy for 40 years is that you're dealing with one China and Taiwan wants to be their

166:27own thing and you don't treat them the same way that you do greater China that Taiwan is part of China so you so the the way that the DI diplomats have worked it you're friendly with Taiwan but you don't recognize them as like their own governments you don't have invite them to the White House you don't our leaders have never talked to their leaders so he gets phone call and he's like hey what's up yeah we're cool and then China's like whoa whoa whoa wait we have this whole structure of the way the world works and in one phone call this is talk about power one receiving one phone call shook that whole part of the globe let me just first of all start off with China sounds like a Dicky friend a Dicky friend that wants to control you and won't let you talk to other people so you wanted to make friends with this new guy and the new guy wants to make friends with you and China's like no

167:16that no you don't even get to talk to them it's uh it's there's that part is pretty valid that's everything to me that's everything it's all there they unless something taiwan's doing we're not supposed to talk to them like North Korea like if all of a sudden he started like chatting with North Korea and started selling Taco Bells over there you know yeah what does this say here Jamie this is from The Washington Post about the call this is says the message as John Bolton correctly puts it was that the president of the United States will talk to wh he who whomever he wants if he thinks it's in the interest of the United States and nobody in Beijing gets to dict to dictate rather to dictate who we talk to well that seems to make sense to me what are we going to not talk to people because if we do China gets mad that sounds like a relationship it's similar to Obama talking to Iran

168:08I've had friends like that where they go like you can't talk to that person look if you if you have an enemy I'm not going to like cozy up to someone that's your enemy but if you don't like somebody it doesn't necessarily mean that I don't like them right like just cuz I like you like I don't have to like everybody you like like that sounds that's crazy yeah that's crazy yeah no I mean you know Obama talking to Iran it's like well how is this ever going to get better unless our leaders talk to their leaders exactly you're never going to you're never going to get anywhere exactly what if China tells you you can't talk to them like what why right says who but here the thing with the thing with the phone call is we don't know did he just pick it up and not is he was he totally aware of our relationship with them it said he was brief before that phone call i' say he

168:53knew what he was doing I heard I heard you were talking to Mike man I thought we were clear you don't talk to Mike man Mike's a piece of he just want he dude he called me no no no Mike's a piece of him in his whole yard I don't know he seems like all right I mean he just called me his yard you can't go over to his yard I don't want you do business I just he's not that bad Mike he said some good things about you oh I'm done I'm done with you we're going to war China sounds like the biggest can you imagine what a caty cat like teenager China sounds like you can't even I can't even talk to them if I talk to them we're going to war are we going to war are you serious we're going to war over this I will totally go to war over this financial War they just call their lawyers start suing you what why are you suing me man I don't understand the whole I don't understand

169:43the whole Asia aspect of our of global policy at all let me tell you this I don't the UFC this is my what I understand about some Asian businesses or at least Japanese businesses the UFC bought this company called pride uhhuh and uh boy they get Hoodwinked oh my goodness the way they did it was wonderful first of all the way the Japanese have this masterful way of doing negotiating business where they talk to you about like maybe we'll do business we're thinking about doing business not today maybe we'll come back and discuss at a later date and then they would come back well we're really thinking about selling this business and then the UFC and pride started trading Fighters they did like a a Goodwill gesture so what this did was Elevate the brand of Pride and make PR Pride even bigger in the United States like they had vand Silva come over and he faced

170:36off with Chuck Liddell and Chuck Liddell went over there to fight people and they had all this negotiating stuff going on for a long time and then finally the UFC comes in and buys them out this big historic thing take photos shaking hands turns out they bought nothing what they bought was essentially like uh a library of fights because all the contracts that the fighters had they were all bad they were all illegal all invalid they had like a couple of contracts some guys that they had to take over and like oh Jesus Christ like it was just chaos and as far as like they were going to like run that business over there well they got over there and they're like oh my God we can't run this like you can't run it without the Yakuza the people that were all like you have to have the like the consent of the Japanese mom to run the country the company over there and

171:21like that was like one of the things sunk no Japanese Japanese that was one of the things that like sunk the organization when it was publicly released allegedly allegedly that the Yakuza was involved everybody's like ah but they went over there they bought this they got this library and then while they had these UFC employees the employees all started a new business called dream and they just started up with a whole new thing out of nowhere so they they were like they bought pride and Pride's dead the same Japanese people like no we have dream they're like but hey you guys were working for us where's our show what the is this it's like they bought they bought like air you know maybe we are all un Noble to each other and this is why this is part of why brexit went down this is part of why Trump won this is why Italy just their prime minister's now leaving populist vote everybody want

172:12everyone's like being told we've got to deal with the whole world globalization we got to deal with everybody and everyone's starting to say you know it's not really helping us do we have to talk to the Chinese do we have to deal with everybody or do we have to all be one Europe everybody is starting to kind of retreat maybe globalization as an idea on the paper seems like it'll work but practically it's not taking hold we're all going to communicate through Tesla hive mind because in the future everyone's going to have to have an electric car and Tesla's going to be the first to figure out that the best way to Pilot your car is actually with a a headset so you're going to put on a headset very light and those electrod there'll all be Bluetooth to your car and that thing will operate by your mind but the best way it'll probably for it to do that is you've got to be on Google

173:02Hive Minds Network so then you download the thoughts or you project the thoughts through the headgear as pure intention so everybody knows where everybody's going as they're driving because you can see pure intention from a mile away and that becomes universal language of human beings when they realized the flaws of English and Spanish and Chinese and Dutch and Japanese and Korean and no one can understand what the they were talking about but through through Google hive mind and his headset connected to the Tesla as it drives around is this is this in the next update or is this a way away it's in one more hit of that take another hit of that and you'll have some good ideas one more hit of the I don't even know what the name I don't even ask names of pot anymore it's all ridiculous yeah I was pretty blown away I really felt like an old man in a pot shop like

173:48so wait she was like this is this is King Kong or something and I and I was like oh everybody knows this name I didn't realized I thought this was your own little brand I was so lost they wouldn't let my mom in a pot shop in Denver never she never ID good for them you have to have laws yeah I think she's legal folks I mean it's flattering and everything I'm sure she sure she was happy yeah you have I think they have to mark down Who You Are they didn't they didn't no they took pictures of your bro you don't even know bro oh maybe bro bro you're right Tom we just did three hours man we did already yeah no Yep this is a Time Warp this is part of the high of mentality this is weirdness in this place that's what happens it's weird it is I'm worried that if we move Studios we'll lose that magic of 3 hours just disappearing when are you moving I don't know bro bro we're working on it bro bro

174:49move to Sherman Oaks thinking about it bro go to Sherman Oaks bro I'm thinking about it now I'm thinking no come on there's lots of good space Sherman Oaks right by May Friday night Tom Papa on epics um what time the new specials uh 8:00 I think and uh epics um isn't like on Direct TV it's on but uh everybody can get epics for free for the month you can watch on your phone or your laptop or whatever so just go to epics.com you'll be able to check it out your special and then there's a lot of other specials too that are on epics Jim Norton I know has Marin has special all those are available as well online like you can check them out on the website for sure and uh then it goes to iTunes uh next week well I can't wait to check it out brother appreciate it thanks a lot thanks for having me in Papa ladies and gentlemen Instagram Twitter Facebook bakery near check yourself before you wreck

175:43yourself inside joke all right folks thank you see you tomorrow bye Kevin tomorrow well that's a good one that 3 hours