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James Kingston

Episode 8492016-09-19English

Guests: James Kingston

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00:00on right yeah and we're live you gotta put that put that thing down i want you to focus i want you to focus i gotta get into your head man i gotta find out what you're about your instagram's just at joe rogan right yes okay did you post it posted go go okay turn that over so you can't look at it that's the key silent i wouldn't think that a guy like you'd be easily distracted you can't be i'm like i'm just like on different things if i get on something i'm on it and then it's like something else and my brain is doing so many different things at one time how did you get to be the guy that makes people shit their pants when they watch your videos because if you haven't seen any of his videos stop pause this podcast for perspective go look up james kingston what is your youtube i just put james kingston james kingston and uh all forms of social media

00:53right you got instagram all that jazz and there's just ridiculous photos and videos of you doing shit that people watch with their friends and everybody goes jesus christ and they cringe and your asshole puckles out like this one where are you out here uh climbing in the ukraine that's in ukraine yeah with mustang wanted is that the guy's name yep so you you hooked up with the russians you out russian to russians yeah i didn't i wouldn't say i out russian them but but that's what they do right that's the whole thing i think only russians can out russian russians so he's climbing first of all how hard is it to get to this tower we're looking at this video and i am fucking freaking out how high are you up here this one i think it was like just over 200 meters this is mustang oh my god he's hanging by one hand this one is the second tallest building in ukraine right oh my god and

01:50you go in the bottom and it's like a shopping center and then they took me like through all these little doors and then we took a lift down into like the basement and then we walked through the basement and found another lift oh my god he's standing on the edge here who's standing on the edge you mustang again oh my he's out of his fucking mind holy fuck this video is hard to watch man so and he's muscling with your hair what what led you to this and how long you've been doing this so i've done parkour for nine years you know parkour sure jumping around all that fun stuff they have little classes for little kids now they do yeah it's really cool yeah break their arms and about four years ago i got to a point where i was like satisfied with what i was able to do right but i was still like super scared of heights so i was like okay i know that if i want to get over this

02:39fear of heights i need to do it face my fear so is this your stuff yeah this is you yeah so this is you running on trees and stuff and the whole idea behind parkour is to use the world around you steps and fences and all kind of crazy shit and to uh you know you're essentially performing acrobatics with all this stuff yeah just jumping around i think i think the now how do you do this and not get hurt you just practice a lot like the whole idea isn't to go out and just do crazy stuff and risk your life right to start you start slow you start with small jumps and then you progress steadily and sensibly and then eventually you'll get to a point where you can do things that make most people feel a bit sick well what did you start doing did you take gymnastics in school or something no i was like a little fat kid when i was younger not super fat but unhealthy

03:35just played computer games that was it how are you able to jump so far too that's another thing that freaks me out there's one big legs you know i'm six foot three i can jump i know but there's a lot of people that are six foot three they can't jump from one building to a next yeah like i've seen some of the ridiculous ones where you jump from the top of a building to another building like on a very small ledge that you're landing on yeah just practice you start how the fuck do you practice you start with a jump that's like four foot wide right and then as you get but you do that hundreds and hundreds of times till that becomes like nothing right and then you'll realize that you can now jump five foot and then blah blah blah blah and i my peak's like 11 11 and a half foot standing jump 11 and a half foot yeah wow dude you should be in the olympics they're on another level

04:21yeah how far can like a long jumper jump 20 feet 20 feet something like that i think the record is probably 21 22 without looking oh shit but still 11 feet in between buildings now when you're jumping and one building's taller another building smaller it gives you more time to to travel right yeah yeah so like like when you're jumping i saw this one video of you were on you were on the ledge and you got to be photoshopped this can't even be real the one that you posted far yeah yeah yeah yeah that one's in cambridge that one's actually a small jump because there's quite a big height difference right massive impact because of the height yeah and you've got a ledge that's maybe like a foot deep to land on and then there's a scaffolding pole right in front of it dude that you kind of slam into you can see

05:12it in the video i slam into that pole jesus but that that's all part of taking the impact use your arms as well yeah but that's it doesn't seem like something could practice a lot right slamming into something that hard those ones you can't practice a lot but yeah you figure it out you figure out how to take impact and yeah so you started doing this about four years ago right you started doing the height stuff started doing the climbing kind of scary stuff and when did you start releasing videos right away um no not really i mean i'd release this one oh this one yeah oh this one makes me shit my pants this is that seems so far that seems so far how far it's not that far like you could jump to the lower bit there quite easily that's what other people have done right into the pole yeah yeah that is bananas dude yeah so how much is the distance between those two buildings between those

06:09probably like 10 foot 12 foot maybe it does not seem like but it because it's because there's a big drop as well it's more about like judging it correctly and not jumping too far not jumping too little right yeah i'd see like 12 foot i think run that one more time jamie i just want to see this one more time because this freaks me out every time i see it every time i see it i'm like he's gonna die for sure there's no way you can make it so you kind of like lean forward and then swing your arms and then push off of it so you're you're like a standard yeah jump yeah because you're already committing to the jump as you're like leaning forward yeah you could see it in your momentum like your head because you have a gopro on yeah is above it's past the center line of like that that beam that you're standing on and you're you're going out there once you're gone that's it yeah oh but that's the idea

07:02like you train you train enough so that when you're stood on the edge looking at something like you have no doubt you can't afford to have any doubt if i doubted myself there and i commit to it and i lean and then i back out i'm dead i had a crazy dream last night man that i'm just remembering i had a crazy dream that i was climbing with alex honnold yeah you know alex um alex has been on the podcast before and uh every now and then i'll think about how crazy he is about how crazy what he does is but how like mellow and like calm he is about it you know like you know he's describing climbing he's like it's really actually kind of mellow it's like if anything is like if you're really scared something's gone horribly wrong and it's really really bad it's exactly the same yeah people think i'm like an adrenaline jumping yeah yeah it says he fell but unless he just fell on i'm sure he pulls

07:50it out right there at the end there it is dude fuck all that is this alex that's not him i don't think so no it looks like oh my god look at that oh my god see i'm not into that crazy that's that's too much trust in the backpack everything i do is like a little me that interesting that yeah not into that my friend andy andy stump he does that wingsuit shit he's got the world record in wingsuit flying yeah he's out of his fucking mind he just loves to do that he gets to the top cliffs of the world and just throws his fucking body off and has like a squirrel suit like the close proximity stuff where they're just like we watched one the other day where a guy slammed into a bridge yeah he missed i've seen it yeah you know yeah the sound it's rough i don't know why i didn't expect it to be so loud the meat and there was people on the bridge oh yeah and his family were

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08:41there oh yeah that's not good it's not good yeah um do you worry about that when you're doing these crazy jumps no not at all i mean it's in my mind like if i make a mistake that's it but i don't make mistakes that's that's what you gotta be confident you gotta have confidence in what you're doing otherwise like if you if you're up there and you're scared right the chances of failing are so much higher i think yeah i think with anything i mean you have to be in the moment right well prepared in the moment yeah um how much of what you're doing or is it really you taking a chance and how much of it is just you having a better understanding what your body's capable of than the average person than most people i should say not taking chances maybe like 10 wow that's interesting and that's that's only on me taking chances and trusting structures yeah like maybe jumping to something that i i'm not

09:36able to check first right but it doesn't happen often every time i do it i'm like probably shouldn't have done that it's really interesting also the that you picking this up four years ago is sort of like where social media it's around the time where social media really started to take off yeah maybe a couple years before that it did but like youtube videos of people doing crazy shit really between like six and seven years ago that's when it really is that right am i saying that right yeah like yeah like 2010 ish is really started to take off yeah so you kind of caught you caught that wave you know i didn't you know i didn't really get anywhere to any kind of good decent like following on youtube until three four years ago that was it i released uh my first like crane climb video that that blew up and

10:22went super viral and that was that kicked everything off and then because of that video i nailed a tv show in the in the uk on channel four and then that was everything just took off then wow now these russian cats that you were hanging out with in the ukraine we climbed up on that tower um there's a lot of those guys like you see yeah yeah it's a lot of videos yeah like what is it about russians and climbing on what is it about these crazy kids why they're so nutty i don't know that's something i've been trying to figure out like for i've only been to ukraine i haven't been to russia but there's not much like there's not much going on there you know there's not much to live for in russia or ukraine i don't want to sound mean but i know what you're saying yeah yeah and there's so much kind of they're just familiar with death and violence and stuff like that like mustang he goes out

11:15i don't know every week and goes like organized fights just like street fights and just beats the the hell out of random people like that to me is like so beyond me he does those english boy those organized street fights where they like five guys take on five guys like big groups i've seen those yeah he's he does that and i was like what so he just does everything crazy yeah wow yeah whoa and he just does it all for the thrill yeah i think so damn what a weird way to live i know it's a weird way to have your brain wired it was such an interesting kind of insight when i was there to people like that so how do you make contact with these guys do you speak ukraine or whatever they speak over there russian what do they speak both usually what is it both ukraine and russian yeah and so it was organized for me to go meet him for the tv show i did in the uk and that

12:09was a part of that show was me going to ukraine to meet somebody else that did similar things and that was where i met him so they somehow or another got in contact with him through his youtube videos or something along those lines wow what a strange world we live in now you know yeah you can go to that place and risk your life with a bunch of other crazy people yeah it's nuts it's cool i guess yeah now what has it been like for you to become famous for being like this crazy risk taker um i wouldn't say i'm like super famous you're pretty famous i know who you are i told my friends they're like oh that dude's crazy you lot i mean how many millions of hits do your videos have fucking millions i've got a bunch of million videos yeah that's famous man that's what's called famous yeah right unless it's one dude who's watching it over and over again that's just my mom

12:56oh my boy he's alive that's cool i don't know it's a bit weird it's weird yeah like you're famous yeah it's i guess it's the same as that but on a much smaller scale yeah but you're famous for doing like risk take i'm just famous for talking shit yeah it's easy to talk shit you just have to say funny things or be ridiculous but you're famous for like literally doing something that makes people shit their pants when they look at a video of it i look at videos of the stuff you do and i start jamie i'll tell you i start squeezing i'm like fucking contort and i go oh what the fuck is he doing yeah i don't you know i don't have any desire to do what you're doing that's why my dream about alex about climbing with alex like here's one yeah this is the first one so this was the first big one i ever released this video literally changed my life this is what we announced 2016 that's three

13:50years three years you're climbing over some water is this the first time you had done something like this no so i'd done a couple other ones but this was the biggest and this was like the first big one that i'd hung off god damn dude now you your hands funny because i live like just next to that now which is really cool oh wow dude if you fell that would not be good no even into water people like people like oh it's just the water you'd survive doing chin-ups oh you fuck you're out of your fucking mind man what are you doing dude what were you thinking right now when you're hanging above that water first of all your hands sweaty no hands is my hands never really my hands sweat when i'm not doing anything but when i'm doing this stuff it's like who's filming you right now so my friend simon is up there with me and another friend doug was there too what do you

14:34think simon and doug would do if you fell would they just hurry up real down and oh jesus you're going one-handed fucker dude like what are you thinking while you're doing this you know what just like alex honnold said there's not much going on it's just me in that moment but there is because the first time you've done breakfast right yeah but thinking about what you're gonna eat for breakfast you know what most of the time when you get to a situation where you're about to do something that you've never done before and you kind of naturally your brain kind of hypes it up and makes it seem a lot worse than what it actually is and then you do it and you're like why the fuck was i scared of that that was exactly the same well as i did it because if you fell you're fucking dead yeah i mean that's it's not rocket science that's a thick pole you're hanging on yeah but it's not

15:19like a small pole it's like super easy can you do a one-arm chin-up no i'm not like jesus i'm not like particular strong fucking christ at all please work on that you should be able to do a one-arm chin-up what if you're like massive limbs man it's not it's not easy to do one-arm chins when you're this big but there's got to be some crossfit guys that can do it yeah i feel like strength isn't in my genes no i just don't have it you definitely have some strength you were hanging from your fucking how long did you hang for uh so i hung three times probably like 30 seconds each time it's hard to hang 30 seconds 30 seconds is tough it's not when you like when you do all the time more stuff is swinging around and all that stuff yeah it's quite easy but most people overestimate the amount of time that they can hang yeah i uh we had this thing on fear factor where people had to

16:03hold on to a bar and hang over like a river and uh girls beat the guys really yeah interesting because girls don't weigh as much a white thing yeah so the girls you know there would be like 110 pounds they'd be able to hang on for a couple minutes whereas the guys at about a minute and a half they were all dropping off yeah yeah interesting i weigh 200 pounds that's a lot of weight to carry around on your hands yeah but i'm a bit fat at the moment so i don't know how you could possibly allow yourself to get fat when you're jumping across like every i think every ounce is important yeah like backpackers lose weight so they don't they don't have as much body weight to carry around i need to lose it i need to sort my life out and start your life out you're doing crazy shit so you um this is like what you do professionally now right how does that work um like what is a normal day

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16:52a normal day yeah did you go out jump over a building exciting you know the normal day i do a lot of work like behind the scenes just like editing and emails and just like boring stuff that people don't see administrative duties exactly yeah it has to be done but it just works the same as any other online influencer like you get a big following opportunities come your way and if you do something like that that's a bit different and a bit i guess crazy to most people even cooler opportunities come your way that's that's it right you've got youtube money you've got like merchandise on my website you've got sponsored videos and sponsors that's it really so you uh work directly with sponsors you have like an agent or a manager yeah i've got a manager yeah that's hilarious it's a kid you're going places yeah smoking a big cigar listen we're gonna have to

17:39take it to the next level can you walk on your hands can you walk on your hands on top with the russians the russians are walking on their hands i can't beat the russians man you can't they go too crazy how many of them die a lot i think there's a few videos floating around of people falling off cranes and shit oh really but it's super like oh that's not nice to look at yeah have you seen those videos i haven't seen you don't want to see them well the wingsuit guy flying to the bridge the other day i thought i didn't want to see it but then i watched it six times in a row but it blacks out before he hits right oh no have you found the oh yes oh you see him bounce off the bridge and it sounds like a car accident it's a bang sound like that i don't know why i didn't expect the bang but it sounds like a car accident yeah it's fucked up it's

18:29the screams afterwards that get me yeah it's all bad yeah all of it's bad the people going oh oh my but that is half of the reason why these people are watching is the possibility that that could happen even though they don't want it to happen that accentuates the thrill it's a strange thing isn't it because i hate watching stuff like that but there's something in me that's like i can't not click it how could you say you hate watching stuff like that because you do daredevil videos i mean i hate watching people die yes oh i understand that yeah but do you like watching people live do you like watching people take risks and live or do you go oh jesus i don't i don't really watch that much stuff so you just do it i just do stuff yeah interesting so do you look at like the competitors like is there like a bunch of you that are like pushing the boundaries and you're like oh no like

19:19i literally have no interest in beating other people or making something better or more dangerous than other people i have no interest in that i'm doing it because i love it and i love making videos did you see those guys that were walking on their hands and they were doing flips and then they were doing hoverboards on the edge yeah of this building yeah that one i have a real problem with yeah it's rough because i've been on hoverboards before and sometimes you fall off sometimes they fuck up sometimes they stop working sometimes shit goes wrong like you're trusting in some cheaply made chinese hunk of shit oh jesus oh you fucks i can't oh he's spinning around in circles this bothers me so much and he's like literally like getting to the edge and spinning around i mean inches from fucking certain death and moving quite quickly by the way i mean i don't think it's that bad like

20:12shut the fuck up of course it's i've been in one of those and it's quite easy shut it off jamie he's got his hands he's on his hands dude he's standing on his hands on a fucking hoverboard on a building on the top of the world fuck you he's crazy these people are crazy look my hands are so russian wet russian yeah they're different folk right yeah yeah and they're their own species yeah they're they're definitely wild folk just the ability to do that and and this new thing that we have now where you can take videos of it just upload it instantly you don't have to have any sort of a network or anything that approves it you put up your own thing and then boom all of a sudden you're like yeah you're a one-man show you know what that's like the most amazing thing about youtube is it's like everybody has a job on youtube anybody can go on youtube upload stuff get paid for it right

21:02that's just it's just so cool and then if you make good stuff that's inspiring people or people enjoy yeah it's crazy so cool it's very strange right it's a completely new world that i don't think anybody anticipated that we're going to have individual content providers are essentially going to be like their own network yeah now how what kind of an obligation do you have to the people that are that are watching your show like how often do you post stuff um i have no like set schedule i probably should i feel like i'd grow a lot more if i had set like the more i upload the more i grow and that's just how it works but how often can you do that i can't go out and climb stuff every day you know it's not that right so how how many days a week uh a good month in terms of like video uploads would be like three three or four videos one week is like good for me that's

21:53interesting yeah because some people i'm trying to up it i'm trying to do better but but it's hard though right it's just given the nature of what you do and i live in the uk most of the time and the the weather there is just like right yeah you can't be hanging when it's raining out right and it's always right oh fuck that oh you get up there and there's dew but your friends are there with the camera you're like let's let's towel it off here towel it off i've had a few dewy situations oh fuck and you climb and it's normal and then when you get to the top that's what it's like where did this wetness come from oh my god why don't you put that sticky shit on your hands like football players use football american football sticky shit like chalk or no it's like tar like glue they spray glue on their hands stick them stick on them what's it called yeah yeah

22:39spray some shit on your hands make some sticky like hmm i'm thinking they're taking it to the next level with the sticky but then imagine if you're like hanging and you just can't get off strippers use it too allegedly um there was some stuff uh that you could buy that uh you would uh put on i think they spray on their legs so they could cling on to bars better in their hands yeah yeah yeah it makes sense it also helps not getting like calluses and stuff oh that makes sense no that doesn't make sense because you think like it would you want it to be lubricated then i mean like um when they start to like get sore and blister if i use chalk i don't get that because they either rip off or they stay yeah yeah i use chalk i use chalk for weight lifting and stuff like that i sweat a lot though i have really sweaty hands for whatever reason i'm just a sweaty fuck so when i watch your videos i

23:28start sweating man i start freaking out change your clothes yeah like when i used to play pool i've always found it really hard to use a pool cue that doesn't have a wrap on it you know what i mean yeah and like if it's just a um a piece of wood that had like a polish or a um a finish on it so what i would do is i would get that stripper stuff and i'd put it on my hands and that way allows you to like gently hold on to the pool cue that sounds so dorky but uh this stuff unfortunately though gets on your hands and then you could transfer it to the balls and it makes the balls stick to each other it's not good not good so that's my knowledge of uh stripper gooky stuff that you can hang on with whatever it is but it's not stick them though it's probably something similar but there's also a product that i've used called dry hands that it's like antiperspirant for your hands yeah yeah i found

24:15out about this because i tried isn't that like liquid chalk you seen that stuff no what's that it's just like comes out like a suntan lotion oh and then it just rubs in and kind of dries out and makes them pretty sticky oh i haven't heard of that liquid chalk i bet it's the same thing yeah yeah it's uh essentially somehow or another they've figured out a way to stop you from sweating if they spray some stuff on you like well that's what antiperspirant is that's a big thing that people like right they like to not sweat in their underarms disgusting yeah fuck man this i i really have a hard time just watching these videos i can't imagine if this is like the world that you've you know i mean this is the path you've chosen you're in you're you know you're in one of the top guys in this madness i guess yeah you are not for me to say no but i'm i mean as in terms of ranking i'm just saying

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25:04that it's it's a crazy path to take with your life it's unusual yeah yeah it's unusual um but i've never kind of i've never fit into like just the normal world like i hated school i ended up quitting school like fairly early no qualifications nothing and how old were you when you quit school uh i can't remember the ages but it was like what do you have here you have high school and then you have college college yeah um so high school i quit like two years before the end i think i was like 13 14 wow you're like done yeah fuck this so done really yeah did your parents get mad yeah you're like don't worry mom i climbed trees and shit yeah i put my mom through a lot of shit when i was a kid how old are you now 26 so you started off this stuff really early so at 22 you're out there filming these fucking

25:55crazy adventures yeah what did your parents think then well well i started like i started a little bit of filming just the parkour stuff maybe in like 2000 what are we in now when i was 17 18 was when i think i first i first made a video and it was me like just jumping between railings and and like small stuff you know safe stuff mom's like oh that's nice and like now i remember when i first showed her that she was just like what the fuck i think she hit me around the back of the head how old were you when you showed her the video of you hanging from the crane when i released it three years ago right away yeah like when you're like check this out mom i i never show her she doesn't really know about things until i'm until the video's done and it's uploaded that's a good move she's like what the fuck yeah so what did she say to you when she saw that besides hitting you did she ever sit down

26:45with you never hits me she was just like i think she was just freaked out blown away yeah but i don't know i can't remember it wasn't like encouraging words it was like what are you doing right why are you doing this and do you remember what you said ah not really i usually just say the same thing i enjoy it just enjoy it that's it wow now is there any legal repercussions to doing something like that have any has anybody ever got mad at you uh yeah in the uk there's not really because it's trespass right and there's no like criminal damage or anything and trespass in the uk isn't a criminal offense it's a civil offense so i can only get in trouble for it if the owner of the property for some reason wants to take me to court i'm sweating like a pig over here thinking of you hanging from that bar over that water i'm fucking sweating my hands are sweating my feet are sweating

27:42i'm sorry i interrupted you but so it's a it's just a civil offense yeah in the uk it's just a civil offense and if they catch you what does that mean like you have to pay a fine or something uh the people that catch me is usually just the police somebody sees me calls the police the police come and they say what you doing try to kind of tell me off and then send me on my way because there's nothing they can do which is which is good for me what is this jamie he's climbing a tower guard there's a guy up there right yeah so this this is the tallest thing i've ever climbed right we're in the middle of get up there and there's a dude up there yeah so i went up and then about 10 minutes after i got to the top the crane starts powering up like like spinning and shit and i'm like what the hell's going on like somebody like got a remote for this crane so i

28:26climb back down from the there's like it's one of these right so there's a little kind of thing here and then that's the main arm okay so i climb down from the back side and then he's in his little room doing his craney stuff and so you're still climbing even though you know this thing's gonna move so i spoke to him you say hey brother i had a little conversation and i was like can i climb this crane and then i was like can you can you just like leave the crane still lock it off for like 10 minutes while i do it because i've come all this way and what did he say and he was like yes okay wow what a nice guy yeah i know and there's people down the bottom this is in dubai this is in dubai the marina yeah it's really cool i love it wow now when you're doing this and you're climbing were you worried about being arrested because if you get arrested in dubai that's no joke yeah so they say i don't i

29:14don't know dubai is a funny one i feel like they've got i feel like they've got bigger fish to fry and they're kind of dealing with actual serious stuff this what what happened when i got down i had to like sit with all the site managers and everything for a few hours and the main guy like the site manager the main site manager said if they phone the police they'll all lose their jobs okay so that's kind of how it works oh okay so usually they just beat the fuck out of you and tell you don't come back they don't know they never no but i mean bad i'm joking but they can't be happy that you're doing this right they weren't but they also were because it just blew their minds oh i see every time it's the same they're like you shouldn't be doing this they try to tell me off and then when i when it comes to me leaving they're like can we take a picture with you yeah every time

30:04you're so high up here man how how high are you up here right this is 450 meters what in the fuck yeah i'm just thinking of 450 feet's ridiculous 450 meters that's that's insanity the one over the water was only 300 feet so this is like four times over four times the size it would take you a long time to hit the ground yeah it would so while you're climbing up here what is going through your mind you're just being careful and watching yeah so this one was like really greasy because it's been there for it's been there for two years i think the driver said and it was just coated in like grease and dust the air and fuck it was like climbing climbing it like somebody had just smothered it in margarine oh my god which is why i'm going slow and i'm getting my feet in the right place and so the feet part is slippery too everything is is like butter yeah

31:00jesus christ man james james james james james so you get up to the top please tell me don't hang from the top of this i wanted to but it was just too slippery too slippery yeah oh fuck it was horrible so you made a judgment call while you're there yeah this is such a mind fuck good lord you're up by the way how awesome is dubai it's incredible i love it what a crazy uh city yeah that didn't exist just a few decades ago it's so cool man it's one of my favorite places mainly because you can do stuff like this what do you do when you get up to the top do you just like put throw your hands up like i'm the king of the world or yeah sometimes you just like you ever jerk off up there no that'd be a feat there's a light up there in case a fucking plane hits it that's how high you are there's all hard to watch so um how many hours did it take you to do to get up there or how long did it take i think

31:55this took two hours but it was like so the beginning was that i got there at like 3 30 in the morning and in dubai they start work at like 3 30 or 4 o'clock because it's cooler oh and there's just like hundreds and hundreds of these dudes stood outside the like the entrance to the site so i'm like how the hell am i going to get into this place dark when this is all going on it was pitch black yeah and i managed to find like a little corner that i could sneak in and then sneak over the fence and there's people everywhere and i don't know how i managed to get in without them seeing me and then as soon as i dropped down i just dropped to the floor and they crawled across the floor between like these scaffolding bars and stuff like that and then some tom cruise mission impossible yeah i've had some like cool situations man some really fun stuff and then i get to the bottom of the crane so the idea

32:44is i get to the crane i climb up like a bit of the crane and then i get into the building that's the easiest way in usually because to climb the crane for 450 meters is just like insane especially in that heat it's a killer and i had like just one of these one bottle of water is holding up so you're you're um so it takes you a couple hours and you're going through the building first yeah so it took me a while to get up the crane and then in because i've got a backpack and it's hot and it's like dry and it's hard to breathe and wow yeah it was the wrong time of the year to do it really and then i get in and then it's just stairs and stairs and stairs that's crazy that you get there at 3 30 and everybody's just showing up for work too yeah so they work 3 30 until like early morning and then they quit

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33:29they seem to work non-stop those guys i don't know how they do it it's not good and they're probably paid like two bucks a day or something yeah there was a whole uh vice special on it yeah about uh some of the more unscrupulous builders out there what they do is they go to third world countries they promise these people uh a certain amount of money and then they bring them over to a life yeah then they're going to be able to send money home and change their family's lives so they go there and take these jobs and they take their passports away yeah they give them a fraction what they were offered and then they live in squalor it's really they i think i've seen it they live like out in the middle of nowhere and they all have these shared showers and toilets and yeah toilets like a hole in the ground it was awful yeah yeah yeah i mean that's uh that's how you get a city built that quick

34:14yeah it's scary it is so uh but as a as a completed entity as a thing it's pretty impressive yeah as a structure you know as a city it's amazing yeah it's one of the coolest cities i've ever been yeah they're just pushing they're just pushing you know they're just leveling it up all the time have you seen the new big um what's it called big like the london eye they're building a london eye in dubai in the marina and it's like so much bigger what is a london eye you know the london have you been to london yes big massive oh that ferris wheel that's what it's called london eye london eye yeah but they're building a bigger one they're building that times like five or something ridiculous yeah yeah i've been on i've been uh by that i haven't been on it yeah been on the one in seattle i want to go there i want to go there around christmas when it's cooler and and see if i can get

35:10690 foot high dubai eye will be the world's largest ferris wheel upon completion in 2015 it says it's not finished those motherfuckers unions last time i saw it it was just the they need to get more slaves you need to kidnap more people yeah get them to work yeah that's uh that's when you get on a ferris wheel now like do you go to disneyland and be like what kind of bullshit is this the last time i went to disneyland was here and i went i think two years ago and yeah i was like you'd be like whoo spaceman tower of terror i think space mountain was the best one it's pretty badass yeah it's even better now because there's it's like star wars themed is it yeah they i don't know if it's permanently star wars themed it's gonna be guardians of the galaxy so they just closed it or route to oh yeah they can yeah they add graphics and stuff like that

36:00yeah spice it up a bit yeah i like the old teacups yeah those are fun they're fun yeah but for a guy like you who experiences real life and death fears like that disneyland shit's got to be boring as hell man yeah it's pretty boring it's pretty boring but it's like something you've got to do once in your life right i bought like a little mickey mickey mouse and there's an adult version out here you got to go to six flags six flags yeah yeah what's the one that's opposite california something that's right next to disneyland oh california adventure yeah that's just that was good yeah that's really good i feel like the rides were better well it's more they're more adult oriented but they have a bunch of kids rides there too yeah yeah but um six flags six flags is way more like the some of their roller coasters are just fucking ridiculous time they're way crazier way crazier but it's a

36:47different thing you know it's not it's more like older people it's more like like high school age and up versus disneyland is really fun for little kids yeah six flags like a lot of shit is not even designed for little kids like yeah some of those ones where you go upside down some of the roller coaster ones and same one what is it x factor or something like that x something or another i should go while i'm here it's a good one yeah it's exciting but i was just thinking like to a guy like you like that kind of excitement is probably really bland yeah but like i said before because it's not in my control it still kind of gets me a bit right of course it's good yeah it's good scares me a bit do you think long term a little bit yeah a little bit like i mean do you think long term as far as like how long you can do this stuff not really no no that's that seems to be the the

37:42thing that people tell me the most they're like well if this is your job now surely you've got like a limited kind of time to it and like i'm 26 i would say i've still got another 10 years of good strength good health in me i don't know i think in that time i can build something else up so i don't need to worry about what happens after so do you want to stay in some form of entertainment like you know i'd like to kind of like an entertainer right how do you consider yourself i'm sorry to hit you with all this career goal i'm just a dude but yeah entertainment is usually what people call me right you're a professional dude professional dude yeah yeah it's a new distinction designation i'd like so after i did the tv thing i'm i really enjoyed it and i've shot like a couple pilots since then for things and i think i'd just like to have my own tv show

38:38hmm well doing what like what would you do do crazy shit well the idea at the moment that i shot the pilot for is i travel the world meeting other extreme athletes and i try out what they do and that's good luck getting insurance for that show i know yeah that's gonna be a problem yeah you might have to shoot it on your own and sell it to somebody yeah it's a vice so like if yeah so if you do something like that and somebody falls yeah then what do you do do you show it like if i was there and i filmed it yeah i wouldn't know no what if you show them falling and at the end you just put a smiley face put an emoji rest in peace lol lol yeah i can do it if you don't see the actual impact you just see a smiley face maybe a bouncing smiley face where they were don't doing doing doing and then you're that's all folks and just cut the commercial by the time you come back people are

39:34thinking about other things already their phones buzzing people are texting them they're trying to get laid yeah pizza got delivered they're over it i wonder man what what what would they tell you like if you were doing something for a production company do you think they would want to include all that stuff like oh yeah i'm sorry they're not allowed right i don't know i mean what are they allowed to do and not to do if people died on reality shows before i gotta think they must have i don't know reality shows have been around for quite a long time but it's the kind of thing that would happen and then they'd cut it out it's not live though is it so you can cut it yeah you would cut it out but everybody would find out there was a show footage always leaks as well yeah there's always something but there was a show in the early 2000s where these people were doing some sort of a

40:28wilderness adventure type show like a race through the wilderness they were on um rafts or kayaks or something along those lines on rapids yeah and a woman got trapped um but she got wedged in a rock her boat capsized wedge and i think she died and that was the first one that i had heard of that was like in the early 2000s but there's got to be a bunch of them because there's so many shitty reality shows now too there's so many production companies that are just yeah people are gonna die yeah people must be dying already but that's is that something that you think about when you're doing this show like if you're hanging out with these crazy russian cats and they're they're doing these things it is a possibility if you do it a thousand times there is a possibility that one of those times someone's gonna fall yeah i don't know it's like i've i've been in situations there was one building in ukraine

41:22where i'm sat it's like i think you shared this clip where i'm walking across the white beams and there's like nothing underneath it um and we both walk out to the edge and then mustang climbs down and hangs off it and i'm looking down at him and i'm thinking like i can i can create the image in my head of him slipping and just disappearing yeah i've i've had a few moments like that where i've just kind of tried to imagine what it would look like but it's not a nice thought no it's definitely not a nice thought no but that's the whole reason why it's interesting it's because it's possible like if i was doing a video in here of me hanging from a chin-up bar that's only a foot off the ground nobody would give a shit yeah if i'm there look everybody one arm yeah i'm just like james kingston i don't do a fuck i'm crazy no there's a floor below me even if i perform the exact same movements

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42:16that you do yeah if i'm not my life isn't in danger it's not even interesting at all the only reason why it's interesting is because your life is in danger yeah but that's that's like one of the funny things about it because it is as simple as hanging off a bar yeah but people are just like what yeah like if there's a small ledge oh jesus there you go barefoot huh how come you decided to go barefoot you get better grip barefoot jesus son this is that moment yeah so you're standing up there looking at him so i'm just looking down on him and he's hanging and then he like does his stuff oh he's going one-handed oh jesus christ he only goes one-handed for a little bit then he goes back to one-handed oh you fucker you fucker you're freaking me out you're freaking me out he's just hanging there too by the way he's hanging there he's still hanging there he's one-arming it the

43:04entire time meanwhile there's security like patrolling around the bottom no idea that we're there yeah the clang of his body when it hits that ground yeah fuck and he's laughing and smiling what is he saying his hands are slippery yeah it was it was a strange color like you'd end up with like chalky hands but it was like purpley kind of color from the paint yeah wow dude you guys are out and he's wearing sneakers there's the security down there look oh jesus and they got dog as well jump on that dog right from there dude um do you have this uh desire to like keep upping the ante is that an issue um not really no i just like ultimately i just like creating stuff and i like making videos and i like exploring places i like heights i like jumping between stuff and like the natural progression for me is to is to get higher and things get bigger that's just

44:00how it is so it just happens but right but i'm not thinking about it i'm not thinking like okay i've just released this so now i need to do something bigger like it's just there it's just natural so how do you go about making a video if you decide i'm going to make a new video like what do you have a thought in your head like i need to get on the eiffel tower like what do you how do you do it you know the eiffel tower was never never a plan i never thought let's go to paris and do the eiffel tower did you do the eiffel tower yeah so how'd you do it if it's not a plan how'd you do it so i was in denmark just traveling around with a bunch of friends and instead of getting in the minivan and driving all the way back to london i was like no i don't want to sit in a van for 15 hours let's just fly somewhere and continue this

44:41adventure so me and my friend flew to paris and then the next day we ended up climbing down for tower do you think this kind of stuff was being done before people were videotaping it like was this must have been it must have been i feel like for certain people it's just uh it's just in them to kind of explore places you shouldn't really explore and i think it's yeah well for you it seems like something that was fostered though right because you started off just doing the parkour stuff and this became of it but you know what when i was a kid i was like i was a naughty little kid i was always trying to do things that i shouldn't know yeah and i think now i'm just a big just a big version of what i was then wow there's some pretty cool videos if you look up on youtube of like urban exploration and people are finding weird pathways and like oh shit looked on 60 feet underground we

45:32made it and there's this shit that's been buried under here wonder why it's buried and look old electronics and stuff like that like under like uncovering the hatch and lost sort of sort of like that i can find stuff like well that's that's very interesting to me but what i'm really most fascinated by is this willingness to put your life in mortal danger and then how exciting this is for people to watch like what's the most viewed video that you have how many hits does it have uh i think just over four million that's a lot of fucking people yeah this one's got a few million i think oh this is you you get up to the top so we climbed and we went we just pushed it too far like we went up to the very top platform have you been to paris no you've been to the alpha tower so you can take the lift up right you can you can walk you can take the

46:22stairs to the second platform that's the highest you can take the stairs to there is stairs to the top but they don't allow it because they're like weird and narrow and so you take the lift to the top and then there's like a door that's always manned by a security guard that is the door to that staircase and that's where we came up from the back side so we we went up and for some reason we just had the urge to just go inside even though it's lit up even though there's cameras everywhere and we open that door i step in to the top platform and then i just hear this this walkie-talkie just go like like go crazy in french and i was like shit we've definitely been seen let's disappear so then we ran down we climbed out of the staircase and then on each on like opposite corners of the tower in the main beams there's like kind of like a little pocket inside the beam that you can

47:12jump into it must be like two by two like size i barely fit into it right because i'm huge my friend is small so he just like disappeared into this hole and then we just sat on opposite ends of the tower and hid and the lifts you start hearing lifts coming up you start hearing people running up and down the stairs you see torches everything's kicking off and we're hidden these little holes and they're searching for us and i'm just like hiding in this hole i'm like i've got one shoe off because it wouldn't fit in i've got my knee resting on my shoe i've lost all feeling in my leg because the blood circulation's gone my head's sticking out the top and i've got like my t-shirt over my head like a little ninja and there's people with torches going up and down looking for us so what do you have video that little pocket that you were in uh it's not in this no i do have

48:07it's only on two sides of the tower which is strange but it's kind of similar to this gap here oh i see it's there see on the right it's in that corner there i see yeah and it's like a foot and a half by a foot and a half i think i barely fit in so how long uh did they wait so we're in we're in this coming up right now yeah this is when it was starting to open up this was like as we so this is like right where here just before we got caught yeah so we tucked in this was just before we got caught so how'd you get caught because the lifts start coming up because the staff start coming up to work or to clean or something and they just saw us we're just like running around these beams and there's lifts everywhere fuck so what happens then so we're like so we're still in this hole and we sit in this hole for like two hours at least two hours where they're going up and down it goes quiet so i

48:56jump out the hole i have a look around i go and see stevi stevi's like half asleep just chilling in the hole and then um come back to the hole i'm like yeah this seems like pretty clear now i think they must have thought that we jumped off with parachutes and we were gone right because they couldn't find us and then i was like yeah this seems pretty clear and then every single light on the tower goes the whole thing lights up and this isn't like the twinkly lights that they have on every hour at night this is like internal lights that are like this big like the whole fucking tower up so i jumped straight back in the hole i'm like shit what's going on and then lifts again people up and down the stairs again looking for us so we're sat in these holes again for ages and then and then it finally goes quiet but the lights are still on for a little while and then the whole thing just

49:51shuts down and that i think that was it so i jumped out had a look around went and got stevi and then it was ours again and then we were up there until like 9 a.m i think it was how long was that how many hours uh 1 a.m till 9 a.m wow so you were climbing around i think for eight fucking hours that's nuts yeah running on like some little french chocolate bar which was really good oh that's all you ate that's all we had yeah so you came down because you were hungry we came down because we got caught now and so you would have stayed there for the rest of the day um the idea was to like wait till it opened and then get into a place where you could hide like near the second platform and then just drop into the second platform and just merge in with like the tourists but we didn't get that far that would have been cool so the plan was to wait for it to open and

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50:42sneak out with the crowd just jump out of the beam into the crowd disappear into the lift done so when you get caught then what happens so we got seen by like a big group of people in in one of the lifts and we're just like waving and they're like like angry looking people well like angry people and happy people they're like what the heck's going on and then uh we were like above slightly above a maintenance platform where they have like lifts that take workers up and then so we had to climb down we met people on the the maintenance platform getting the lift there's like five of us like two me and stevie and then like a few other people security just like private security for the tower and then we come down to like the basement lifts open there's just like a room full of policemen and we're like you're seeing the movie and what they do they didn't film that bit i had

51:34to hide every single sd card and everything that i had on me how'd you do that three cameras up your butt no no it was an option that is the only option yeah i haven't had to do that yet but you need a condom you tie it in a knot yeah put them in the condom put your finger up your bum that's right all right so how do you um hide the sd cards i mean they must have went through your stuff with a so i had i thought they would but they didn't i don't know paris they don't give a fuck they're trying to get laid drink wine so i had like i had like a big 5d like a big dslr and then i had i think two gopros and so two micro sds and one like cf card from the from the big one and i had like this bag that had like little tiny pen pockets like really thin pockets right and i just stuffed the micro sd cards down there and i had like a a little rip in the back padding of the bag

52:27so i just threw the cf card in the back of the bag and it just fell down and i just hoped and then when like we got to the police station they were like you have so many cameras on you clearly you've been filming and i was like no forgot the sd cards cameras died and they they believed it i had to surrender everything on my phone i um you had to surrender everything in your phone yeah so so i had three cameras right so i was like i had three cameras and my phone so i was like i'm gonna have to give something up to try and save the most valuable the most valuable footage so i was like they were like did you film i was like i only filmed on my phone because my cameras died and i forgot my sd cards and then they went through like the footage on the phone and just made me delete it all oh that's cool so that the footage on the phone was like a ruse the footage on the phone was like me in the in the

53:20little hole right filming talking to the camera and like filming the people looking because i was like this and i put my phone that's great that you had something to give them yeah yeah so then what happens how long did they detain you uh we were there for like eight hours so another eight hours so when you're eight hours up there climbing around how do you pee i you pee off the edge of the tower oh my god that's probably why you got arrested you're pissing on these french people as if life hasn't pissed on them enough yeah i think by the time it gets to the ground it's kind of all spread out or not or it's a fucking raging river of piss right on some little old lady's head yeah it seems like if you were why don't you just pee on the tower that way it dribbles down slowly it doesn't hit anybody in the head i mean if you were stood on the eiffel tower and you

54:04needed to pee there was no one below you because it's like 4 a.m okay you'd pee off the edge maybe you peed on a homeless person that's even ruder yeah i'm sorry tough enough person if i did pee on them maybe it's a romantic couple going for a walk maybe it would have really worked out all of a sudden the girl goes to light her cigarette and you piss right on her head and she gets mad and the fucking evening ends poorly and they could have it could have been a perfect relationship but you ruined it i killed it yeah so you come down and then another eight hours of detention yeah and what do they do to you handcuffed us to a chair we just sat in the middle of the of this police station there's like cells behind us with people going crazy and like people bleeding from their eyeballs and we're just sat there like people bleeding from their eyeballs from other crimes from like

54:50nighttime fights and stuff like that and just drunk people and we were just sat there for ages and then we finally got taken into like separate rooms where we were questioned by some high up i had a woman he had a dude and we were both questioned for a couple hours and then we were back out handcuffed to the chairs again and then they took all of our stuff and they searched it and i was like if they find it they're gonna be like okay you just told us that you filmed nothing and we've just found hours and hours of footage like what's the deal so i was like fuck please don't find the cards yeah and then um they finally brought the brought the bags back like must have been an hour they had them for and i thought they were going to go through everything but they brought it back i checked it and i was like stubby the cards are still here and then we just like we just lost it we were so happy but

55:39the the policemen just had no idea what we were doing god so do they kick you out of the country no record no so nothing at all so i had to we go back in that room i had to sign a an agreement that said i promise i will not climb the eiffel tower for three years for three years that's it that was it yeah wait a random right how come they only give you how come they don't say forever forever they must like it yeah you know what the woman that was interviewing me loved it she did she was like you really shouldn't be doing this but how did you do it it's incredible like she loved it wow low-key loved it yeah well i think once they realize that you're polite you're a gentleman you're a very nice guy you're just a thrill seeker they're like okay this is not a threat to society yeah this guy isn't a terrorist yeah so the second question she asked me was did you leave a bomb up

56:30there oh god and i just laughed i was like what come on oh wow well that's something they have to take into consideration they have to actually trust you right if they let you go it turns out you did leave a bomb up there then they have to like they would have to comb over the building with a fine tooth comb but who's gonna say who's gonna be like yeah you know what i did i left the bomb up there no no one would right so they really have to trust you yeah fucking europeans ridiculous ridiculous people three years fuck you you'd be in jail forever if there's america they put you right in guantanamo bay get in there get in the hole they throw dogs in there with you yeah it just seems like um they're a little bit looser over there a little more relaxed about things they are yeah i was um i was driving from from la to san fran a couple weeks ago up the one is it the

57:22one amazing drive and i found like a couple of cranes i went and saw like some elephant steer elephant seals and then shortly after that i just found like a building site on the site like near the beach like 100 meters back from the beach and i was like of course i need to stop and just do this because it's um what weekend was it a holiday weekend right so i did it and i stopped and i climbed it and then i'm at the top and i looked down so i had like a rental mustang and i parked the mustang in the site like on the top of this peak it looked really cool but you could see it from the road so a cop's driving past he sees the mustang he's like what's going on so he pulls in and he's walking around looking and then he looks up and he sees me at the top of this crane he's like you get your ass down here

58:05right now and i was like fuck this is the first time i got caught in the u.s i was like shit what's gonna happen well you're in california it's better than getting caught in like arizona yeah yeah this is Texas that should shoot you just shoot me yeah okay i'll bear that in mind that's what i'm scared of that's what i'm scared of because in the uk what we know the the cops over here to be like is they just shoot people that's like what we're told you know that's what they feed us you're white you're gonna be okay true um so the guy gets you down the window tells you to get out of there he shouts at me yeah i've got this all on video as well he shouts at me i come down and then he just lays into me yeah and i'm telling you from england you don't know any better exactly yeah i was like oh in england it's not actually no vitamins like well you're not in

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58:52england you're in the united states of america boy and you need to do what you should do so yeah so he doesn't want to follow up the paperwork he took my passport he took my driver's license he checked all my stuff and then he he was like okay he came back after like 10 minutes he was like okay so i made a decision and i'm going to leave this in the hands of the site manager so he goes and he tries to find a site manager but it's holiday weekend nobody's there so he goes to the office he phones up some number on the on the door and he speaks to the site manager and the site manager just got back to la from from where he's working and he was like you know what i've just got back home i cannot be bothered to deal with this so just just let him go and then we just got let go and that was it oh what is the worst you've ever got in trouble uh there's there's nothing you know

59:43nothing there's nothing like bad are you worried now though that with your internet fame that now you're getting millions of hits in these videos that people are gonna they're gonna recognize you and maybe even like target you to yeah set an example yeah i don't know i've thought about it but it doesn't seem to happen happen it seems to be getting easier because they're like oh shit you're this guy like can i take a picture like that's just how it works do you worry that you're encouraging people that are not as competent or thoughtful as you um i worry that somebody that is a bit silly might see it and think oh i need to do this to to be cool or to to look cool in front of my mates like young kids right that i worry about that yeah but there's not much i can do like there's there's so many more things out there that are so easily available on the internet that kids could watch

60:34yeah and be inspired by and like i just i always make it clear that what i'm doing is just what i want people to get from this is like i'm just going out exploring the world living my life in in a way that i enjoy doing things that make me happy pushing myself developing myself becoming a better person a stronger person and that's it like and and climbing and jumping around is just my way of doing it like we all have our own little passions right that's just mine yours might be badminton or like something ping pong that's another thing that's interesting that's happening now with the the larger number of content providers like so many people like yourself that are doing things like this the idea that one person is responsible for their influence becomes less and less plausible it becomes more like well what is he representing well he's representing a 26 year old guy who absolutely knows

61:21how to do that you know it's not yeah you don't have to do what he's doing but he can do what he's doing so are you supposed to stop doing what you're doing which you're obviously very capable of doing because you're not a good example well the other perfect example of someone doing it correctly yeah exactly but some people just don't right just don't get that well that the idea that you're influencing people is always it's always very tricky because well what are you supposed to do you're supposed to live your life in a cushioned room so no one gets injured because that's the only way to influence people positively you know in terms of like if you're going to do risky things you could always be an example or be an inspiration of someone who's not as competent as you yeah and they could risk death or injury yeah i don't think honestly i don't think anybody is

62:05stupid enough to to see it go out and try it like most people on earth right well you put them up a crane and they'll shit themselves yeah right i don't think any 12 year old 14 year old kid is gonna see it and be like oh do do climb a crane hang off it i just don't see that happening oh they're definitely gonna do it i disagree there's gonna be a bunch of them yeah there's a lot of crazy fucks out there just like you pal yeah i don't know it's beyond me like i can't russians are i've been doing it longer than i have like did they start this stuff yeah from as far as i know yeah they went up there with big ass heavy cameras first stuff i saw was russians big ass fucking boombox cameras yeah i wonder who the first guy was to climb up on top of some beam because i saw one where there was a a steel girder that was extended out into the forest and it was like rusty right

62:55yeah there's trees everywhere that's probably the first one i saw it might have been the first one yeah see if you can find that one he's doing push-ups on it yes yes that fuck yeah russia that's russia yeah i want to go there i really want to go there because it's still there oh no don't do it and he's got that picture where he's like this it's epic man yeah here it is do you he's hanging upside down and he's extending his legs this guy's out of his fucking mind he's doing like flips he's doing chin-ups and he's letting go of his hands he's doing chin-ups and he gets to the top he lets go of his hands and he's doing several of them he's doing one leg with one leg crossed over the other one how windy is oh my god they're they're balancing on their hands over these beams that's the one fucking jesus christ this is driving me nuts but you see like there's a bunch of videos of dudes

63:47in this place i know well how many people have died from this place must be a few oh my god look at this guy gripping oh this is so scary good lord this is so scary as i'm watching this video isn't that old do you think this maybe started once the sorry once cameras became the portable enough to get up there like the small little flip cams and blogging cams like maybe it wasn't you weren't capable of taking a big-ass vcr camera like you had a drone in one of yours i saw and drones are being able to do live video now look at my hands you could i could i could like ring them out in a glass right now i'm watching this video and i'm freaking out and these guys are doing it and they're laughing you know they're so high up look at that forest below them yeah i think i think you're right that people have always probably done

64:42this yeah amazing feats of athleticism too if you look at this guy bouncing his hands his feet up in the air yeah full plank hanging off look at this guy i mean that is that's some serious fucking strength i mean it's just it's such a crazy endeavor were you doing some of this before you could film it like before you had a camera yeah so it's not just about showing people no not at all okay do you know anybody who's fallen and died um no none personally no there was a there was a parkour guy that fell off a rooftop he was doing a back somersault on the edge of a rooftop probably like a wall like this which is like an easy thing to do but something must have got to him and he fell off he died yeah 16 stories i think and this is recent a couple years ago i think now where'd he fall what place yeah uh i think it

65:39was russia pretty sure it was russia you google it you'll find it so it's surprisingly few deaths yeah that we know about that are publicized i don't see that many yeah which is good i guess yeah for sure so your plan that leads me to believe that people aren't stupid enough to go out and mess up well it's such a scary thing to do that it just takes a very small percentage of people yeah and and it grabs a hold of them and says you got to do this too yeah there's a video that's actually on youtube that probably shouldn't be on youtube of somebody filming from the ground up at a crane and a guy like walks across the top beam of the crane and falls and you just see his body just oh god and yeah it disappears behind some other building well i think as long as it doesn't hit the bottom they'll let you show it yeah and that

66:31weird we have rules like that like you'd know the guy died yeah but you can't see it yeah strange so 10 more years of this i don't know i don't know you're not thinking about the future you're just a wild man i'm just a wild man yeah living on the edge yeah just wake up see what i feel like yeah wow there's no point to thinking that far ahead you know i could die tomorrow we could all die tomorrow we could all get hit by a bus or we could live and then you go fuck why didn't i think about tomorrow yeah it's not a bad idea to plan assume you will live police release horror video of school boy falling 100 feet to his death as warning to daredevils police in russia have released a horrifying video at russia yeah we don't need to see this jamie this kid's gonna fall and i'm gonna freak out even further i think i've seen this yeah what other

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67:23interest do you have besides doing this kind of crazy shit uh you know what i do or no no other sports really i just love filmmaking i just love making videos i love filming stuff i love taking pictures i love creating these little films and it's like both of my passions just work hand in hand i've got the parkour and the climbing stuff and i've got the filmmaking it's do you ever film stuff that's not scary yeah daredevil stuff yeah and do people need to do more of that do people respond to that yeah i um so i put out a video a couple months ago of my new car like at my new car video so it's basically like a car review right and people love it oh i think i might have seen that do you have an m3 and m4 a new one yeah i think i did see that people like it it's got like 200 normal guy yeah yeah it's a great car isn't it it's an amazing car and you got that car for money

68:12that you made from risking your life yep wow yeah from like youtube ads and stuff is that what it is youtube money sponsorships everything that's a beautiful car they're so well engineered yeah look at it man it's a piece of art it is yeah i had an m3 the last one yeah i had the old one the v8 yeah yeah this is interesting that the v6 turbo right you like it yeah it's like it's a completely different sound but i like it i used to have like a turbocharged car before the v8 m3 and i missed all the the little hisses and the wobbles and i missed it so now i've got it back that's so much faster a lot of people like the roar of the v8 yeah it's the big complaint about the m3 yeah yeah so it doesn't the m4 rather it doesn't have that roar it doesn't it's completely different but i wouldn't i wouldn't compare them i wouldn't say oh the m3 is better it's just a

69:01different it's a different breed you know it's like well we're getting used to cars that don't make any noise right those electric cars which become more and more prevalent i saw the tesla numbers the other day jamie it's 2.5 seconds it's less it's so less than three it's 2.5 and that's in like the model x like the big one as well as the other one really i think the big one's a silly it's sub three just updated them this week too i wonder if they updated the speed too like the software update it's like a firmware update add speed to your car yeah isn't that nuts yeah yeah it's elon musk man he's he's killing it he's on the spectrum for sure right gotta be super wizard yeah he's an alien he's probably yeah this uh those people those like people that push things like that what is this zero to sixty in 2.5 seconds has 315 miles of range dude yeah not if you go that fast

69:54it's 289 miles what is that let's stop lying what does it say is it a different one do they make that sweet one that little tiny one do they still does tesla still make that little sports car one no they don't they release them in limited numbers the little tiny one the little lotus looking one yeah yeah that lotus looking one was beautiful yeah that was one of their first wasn't it yeah but it is on skinny tires yeah and apparently the weight's all fucked up it's like porsche 911 but way to the extreme because all the weight's in the back yeah just like a porsche but way more weight yeah so it's like if you go around a corner and the ass and kicks out on you you just go or if you're going around a corner and you're hitting the gas and you let off the gas you know you get that that tail end sort of pendulums out on you yeah but they're beautiful cars man do you

70:49cars are fun yeah me too i'm a big fan a big fan of engineering what do you drive um my favorite car i have a porsche 911 gt3 rs yes dude yeah i have an older one a 2007 when they were still manuals yeah they don't make manuals anymore now they're all uh those paddle shifts which is uh they're really fun but it's just not as fun yeah it's different than that yeah i'm a big fan of uh clutch that's one thing i like about the m4 it's one of the few high-end sports cars where you could still get that clutch all the american cars do it like corvettes yeah you still get with a clutch but like uh porsches the gt3 and the gt3 rs now you can only get automatic ferrari only automatic yeah that's my car that was before i took the that's cool the painting off the the wheels or off the um side the gt3 rs logo i'm like that's a little schoolboy racer now it's just white but those are uh what i

71:47like about those cars it's not even really growing that fast it's the connection like when you're going around corners it literally is like a ride it feels like a disneyland ride because it's so good yeah and it's also the engineering like you can appreciate the amount of thought and trial and error and calculation that's involved in creating something that's so capable you know when you drive a regular car you know it's just a car you're driving it around you drive one of those things around you're on a ride yeah you know yeah i love it so fun yeah me too i'm a big fan so do you this is like all your life you just enjoy making videos taking photos yeah and doing these crazy stunts and filming them and you're just living day by day keep on keeping on living the dream yeah you are in a lot of ways man i mean there's a lot of kids that are going wait a minute you could

72:39just do chin-ups on a crane you can get a fucking bmw yeah yeah you'd be surprised how many people are like you don't deserve this oh fuck those people you're risking your goddamn life what you do is what you do is climb ladders and listen people watch the videos jealousy just jealousy of course you're always gonna have that yeah you're always gonna have haters do they motivate you nah they just make me laugh haters do yeah do you have a place that you want to go hong kong uh-oh chinese don't fuck around dog but if you look at some videos from hong kong man it's the place to be but if you get caught over there they might throw you in a hole i don't know i don't know i think few people have been banned from hong kong for like some years or forever i've not heard anything bad i mean i would imagine that anytime you get arrested in a foreign country

73:34is this hong kong oh look at that man high rise hong kong this guy's walking around with a selfie stick sponsors oh my god he's showing his sponsors who the fuck wait a minute back up back up his sponsors yeah back up hold on click pause what is this jet flight search engine jet radar flight search engine hotel look hotel search engine so what's happened here sponsors what's happened here is he's been like okay i need to get to hong kong but i don't have money i need to get a hotel in hong kong but i don't have money i'm going to contact a flight company and a hotel company and see if i can get them to give me both for a video but how insane are those companies that they're like what are you gonna do some illegal shit in china yeah i'm in yeah i'm in put my name up there i want to i want people to know 1 million 100 359 views that's why they're like fuck it

74:25a lot of those people gonna use our service look at all those buildings i guess if the guy lived it's not negative right yeah if he made it through doesn't live it won't get released yeah exactly it's like yeah that's the deal if you uh oh my god this is so bananas those gloves oh he's got gloves on you think he's a pussy for wearing gloves yeah i mean but that's like that's like coming from a parkour background where the idea is to not have to rely on anything like you build your hands up so that you can do shit like this and not have to worry about cutting your finger now when you were doing parkour stuff were you doing like backflips off buildings and stuff yeah have you ever seen that video where this kid in the ghetto he's on a second floor roof and he does a backflip and lands on the ground yeah probably it's i've seen

75:10some seriously high ones fucking crazy like how does a guy live from that far away you do it you just learn how to land how does he learn how to land you land in a way right that your legs take as much of the impact as they physically can right and then you smash your bum into the ground and then you just do a backwards roll that's it watch this guy and if your bones are strong enough you take back flip off the 40 foot roof i think this guy smashes his head yeah for sure but what's crazy is he actually did this he did a backflip yeah like somebody gave him something like a dollar or something crazy right wasn't it like 20 bucks or something ridiculous but this dude like he's standing there and this is no one had to please don't hurt yourself please look at this i'm gonna say a prayer you hear that i'm ready i don't even want to look at that well you're not

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76:07going to turn away either though are you you want to be there so this guy is standing there with his back he's building hype right now here he goes smash and he made it oh my god you all right bro i'm good holy shit he's got strong bones otherwise his arm would be snapped yeah that is and that was a hard surface he fell onto yeah you would just think that if someone just jumped like is the flip helping at all the fact that he does yeah how's that just because the momentum is it's going this way instead of just going slam straight down oh that makes sense convert some of that into that which is like you know when you see people jump massive roof gaps and they land and they roll yeah that's converting all this downwards momentum into a forward into forward and that means you can jump a lot further than you think oh that's interesting so but how do you if you have to jump straight down

77:09what do you do uh you land and you just slam your hands into the ground as well spread out the impact as best you can yeah rolls are only good really if you're going forward quite a lot right if you're running so if you had to jump off of that 40 foot high wall that guy was on how would you jump i'd probably hang off the edge and just straight drop bam yeah that one that's not that high what the fuck are you saying you don't think you'd have a problem making that jump no really yeah i've done big drops it helps that i'm big as well so does it but makes it you're heavy too right yeah but my legs i've got good legs man my legs like my strongest thing do you exercise or do you just do a lot of that just the exercise comes from doing it that's it and how often do you do it now not so much i used to do it a lot like i used to go out every day and train all day and just repeat

78:00jumps and everything now it's kind of like built in me but doesn't that it's not a problem like it's the more famous you get the more obligations you get the less time you have to practice and the more people expect of you yeah so if you do crazier shit it's a problem yeah but fuck yeah don't die dude you seem like a nice guy no i won't die please don't it'd be it'd be a wonderful story if you made it through this thing yeah no problems at all and you know people be like look you just the only thing you have to fear is fear itself yeah it's true anything else to add to the people before we get the fuck out of here no not really thanks for watching thanks for watching thanks for having me on please my finally we made it happen i'm glad we did i'm glad i got to meet you you're a normal guy it's it's

78:44i'm just a dude i look in your eyes you look totally normal i'm looking in your eyes there's nothing crazy going on in there you just assume i mean you look at some of these russians and you look in their eyes and you just see death and like yes different different yeah yeah well so they're the kings of the shit they're i guess yeah man it's a weird thing to do it's a weird thing to do what do you have planned uh that people can look forward to um i've got quite a lot going on actually i've got some a couple of huge videos to release from dubai i'm doing something here next week involving a helicopter in america america yeah what part of america should we say l.a. uh-oh downtown l.a hollywood sign do people know about it no shh yeah people just saying helicopter just saying i'm working on it you're doing it from a helicopter yeah dude don't fall yeah if you fall

79:42people are going to get mad at me for sure yeah you encouraged them you told me to go further you made them want to do crazy shit yeah so i've got a few big videos i've got a book coming out which is cool oh okay it's mad what's your book photography and stuff it's no it's like a life story oh yeah it's like my beginning how i discovered parkour how i started climbing and then like a few select big climbs that i've done and did you write it or do you talk to this goes it's like it's uh based off interviews i'm not a writer like i can't write a book but uh a couple of big interviews and then he he converted it into a book and then a bunch of pictures as well which is cool wow yeah listen um you've scared the shit out of me on numerous occasions so in a way you've absolutely entertained me so i appreciate it man and uh it's very nice to meet you and continued health

80:30and success to you please thank you very much you're a nice guy i don't want anything bad to happen with you man just be careful out there thanks bud james kingston ladies and gentlemen what is your uh instagram and your instagram is the james kingston yeah and you have a twitter and twitter the same james kingston you put james kingston anywhere you'll pop up straight thank you brother very nice meeting you man you too thank you good night you fucks see ya

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