Ian Edwards

00:00man has to be careful about what size accouterment he carries around with them right when you get into like the man bag category it's like I don't know if you can pull that off and it's a note too so it's big oh so what we're talking about is Ian's um phone cover here it's it's very purse like it's like a change purse now you you can put your cards and in there that so it is a purse well you know n in a way it's like a wallet like a wallet phone yeah wallet's a good word isn't that funny like there's words allowed to use like like you could walk around all day with a backpack and no one says anything like wellan let's just just keep a in a back yeah no no problem with that but if you have some sort of a satchel yeah you know it's very suspect very suspect you open yourself up for a lot of verbal attacks you know what I'm saying and it's like the style of

00:51satchel is important too because if you got like a satchel that's like in any way stylish then you can't just be wearing like Converse All stars and a t-shirt you have to wear like hipster clothes you have to have like rolled up cuffs and you have to have like a nice tie up leather shoe you know like you have to go Gavin mcginness Gavin mcginness you know you got to you got to figure out what you're going to wear with it yeah you gotta you got to look the part yeah see that's why I I still take a lot of heat for the fanny pack and I think it's funny because I I you know I wear that thing all the time but yeah I feel uncomfortable when I wear it sometimes like quite honestly yeah I wear it and I've realized people are looking at it and they notice it and they're mocking me hey I don't have the balls to wear a panny pack I got to tell you right now I wear it on stage you wear it on stage I

01:40wore it on stage a bunch of times why what you're not going to pull anything out of there because I don't want to leave my wallet in the Green Room Shady people working on the comedy club it's hilarious I'd rather them steal my wallet wear it on stage that's how that's how like much I'm into like looking off looking like a man you know what I'm saying like I'm like I can't do it now you just call this a purse you may never see this again because I call it a I might I might throw the phone away with it and just get a new phone you have to have a cover though I found that out man I tried to go natural with my my last phone and uh man I dropped it a few times and it was toast it's shattered Jamie's going natural you don't drop it no I'm pretty careful with it drop here and there but it's still good to go you know what I don't think I Dro this one now that I have a case that's what's up

02:29that's the funny thing yeah happens yeah like you don't have a case like B better not drop it yeah yeah when you go I've been raw know like no case just raw no condom on the phone and uh you know you got to be careful with that feels good that way though feels good that way I have the natural phone in your hand nothing on it yeah it also feels like you're a risk taker I'm a wild Cas on my phone hilarious right doesn't it feel kind of like that that's in modern times that is a risk that 2016 it is a risk to not have a case on your phone that's crazy you're a rebel this is how we're rebelling this is the softest time to be alive ever hilarious it's so easy to be alive you know we're trying to eradicate all the dangerous Parts M that are left like there's the the dangerous parts are left like particularly like in America they're so highlighted now right it's one of the

03:29reasons why I think like Chicago and Baltimore and Detroit and when we find out like the murder statistics for all these cities one of the things that freaks us out is that for the most part most of this country is as easygoing and soft as it's ever been ever so when you see some crazy violence like on a YouTube video or World Star Hip Hop or something like that live leak I watched some live leak the other day I got to stop doing that man I got to stop traumatizing yeah man they'll get you but you realize like there are still spots where it's dangerous as but for the most part it's so soft right now it's so soft right now we're Risk Takers if we have no phone cover that's us yeah that's the new tattoo yeah like having no phone cover everybody's tattooed now too that's weird I mean obviously I have them but I just it's odd for me to see how many more people have tattoos today

04:22how long you had your tattoos a while well I had one on my shoulder forever I got one when I think I was like 23 three or four or something like that that was rebellious back then yeah I was like oo I'm going crazy it was something I drew too and my friend Tommy uh my friend Tommy Jr had gone to this guy already uh Danny Williams in Connecticut he was really good artist man this guy was a really good artist big biker looking dude but uh that's who you trusted with your tattoos back then he was a wicked artist you know he was like it's like back then tattoos as an art form was way more obscure like now I think people know like Kat Von D they recognize these like celebrity tattoo artists like Ed Hardy came out with the line of clothing like Ed Hardy was like a world famous tattoo guy like way way back in the day like his like his whole style of tattoos that people associate

05:17with Ed Hardy but there was only a few other ones and now it's like they have all these magazines and TV shows and the guy that did me Aaron delova is awesome he's down in San Diego at Guru tattoo and it's you know he's like my he's a good friend like I really love that guy it's like I I he's a cool guy to talk to which is like I think important if you want to have someone draw on you for the rest of your life that's funny like they have the the like the hairdresser Barber Shop style yeah you know conversations when you go in there to get the tats yeah well you do you get to learn about a guy you'll get to have like these deep conversations like like Aaron and I we talk for for like 45 hours on my right arm and like probably like 60 hours on my left arm it's a lot of just talking that's a lot of talking sometimes you don't really talk though cuz sometimes he's just deep

06:12into it and I just like watch a like like a watch I was watching that's where I watch like most of uh Breaking Bad season one and season two I was watching fun getting tattooed that's like the perfect show to watch if you're get in a tattoo to be honest that's it's like that's good mood music you know what I'm saying watching Breaking Bad and getting the tattoo it's almost like the pain of the tattoo accentuates the show cuz the show is so chaotic and up it's almost like better while someone's drilling on your elbow the tattoo needle damn you said elbow and needle that I felt that you feel it yeah that's a that's a rough spot the inside of the elbow like right here that's a really rough spot yeah what's interesting is the closer it gets to your chest it's a really rough spot like you're like woo different spots of different um levels of pain that you

07:02experience from it's very strange like your shoulder nothing you could draw on me all day on my shoulder I fall asleep like I'm not kidding it's weird like the shoulder just doesn't seem to hurt but you get down to like some area the inside of the arm yeah it's like a different feeling it's I don't I guess the nerves are closer like anywhere that's got more meat on it is like protected more from the the I don't know doesn't make sense it's funny though no it's like it's like you're finding out about your body you know while you're getting tattooed you know it's like it's kind of like sometimes you're having sex with a girl and you and I always like when she I never felt that before like like then nobody's ever touched that part or explored that part and it's like you finding where you digging Ian Edwards everywhere everywhere where am I not especially if you love a chick you

07:58just you'll try to find some yeah when a girl says like that good percentage of me always goes yeah right a Jo every time every time in my life a girl said something like that I've always been like okay because it seems like something that girls think that guys want to hear don't you think yeah yeah it's a part of Faking it yeah well it's a part of getting the guy to like you yeah like getting a girl to like you guys would do all kinds of rid ridiculous artificial pretend to be a certain way prend pretend to behave a certain way but when it gets down to it you know you get to know them it takes takes a long time to chip away from that stuff so when someone says something that's like cliche ridiculous or along those lines you got to think like oh this person just running their game running their game yeah they're running they're fall in love with me G they're

08:55fall in love with me you got you got to challenge those women just to just so that they respect you and you keep it on that level you know or don't date fakers yeah that's hard though that's hard though it's like some of them are hot yeah what are you doing checking tweets while the show no I was trying to retweet the thing but I'm not getting any uh reception reception yeah I just want that's the only thing I want to do is like retweet it but my my purse ain't allowing me to do that yeah you're you're Rebel because you have an Android phone too you're Rebel both ways you don't give a is that the uh the note where you could draw on the screen yeah those are the yeah I love that I love it that's you have that no you had one though I had one of those and you switched it back out yeah now I have a Galaxy and um I have an iPhone I have two different phones oh that's good so

09:45you got both yeah but I to miss that note that I just think that ability to draw on the I was like God it's going to come into play someday I'm going to make some funny with this you know like have your friends and but it seems like those meme generators we just go and get like a little thing and put the text into it it seems like that's easier it's easier but some it's a pain in ass sometimes to move it to where you want to move it to all that like the reason one of the reasons I like having this is like like there was a like last year I wasn't I didn't I was living in a friend's I sold that place remember one last time and I was living at a friend's house I didn't have no printer no comp no no no setup where you could like if you get a contract for a show or just with anything but so you you could print it up yourself with this you just look at the thing on your phone you could

10:33sign it you could like read the contract and then sign it and just send it in via email back without printing anything out or anything that's incredible that's a big thing to have in that case but how weird is it that we're still signing things like how how much longer is that going to go on I mean think about it a unique movement with your hand really like we all know that I I used to replicate um all the kiss kiss signatures mhm every kid knows how to do that right yeah sure Michael Jordan's autograph I'm sure how for sure well probably a bunch of people who have fake memorabilia right like with a guy like Michael Jordan like a basketball signed by Michael Jordan is worth how much more than a regular basketball and a fake basketball not signed by Michael Jordan is worth still a lot of money yeah well how about yeah it doesn't even have to be a real basketball it could be a

11:24child's toy Michael Jordan signs it's worth a lot of money so it it only makes sense that a unque hand movement that could be easily replicated it's not like what he could do on the basketball court he can do his handwriting you know hilarious nobody can with his hand right you can't do it dude nobody get who who slams dunk from Center Court like he did you know nobody you can't do it I can't do it but the writes just like us no exactly right he doesn't have some crazy writing move that nobody could replicate that's hilarious you know he just he just writes his name so all you have to do is look at that thing and then recreate it MH like I was watching this um uh documentary on art forgery fascinating oh fascinating which one I wish I could remember um because I caught it on television and I caught it when it was already started you know just flipping through the

12:18channel I was like what is this and I don't remember but what I do remember was that um there was an article that I had read as well about this one guy who was a forgery guy but in a weird way what he would do is he would make a fake version a new piece of art but from that artist style and this guy apparently was making millions of dollars in Europe with this like people would go crazy after the war or during the war or something like that I wish I remembered that um do you know what it is yeah yeah I'm pretty sure this is it it's on I'm pretty sure it's on Netflix or it was yes that's the guy try the art of forgery is what it is yes okay there we go really his story is really cool how he does it you can probably it though yeah oh no it's incredible he would study the art of each guy uh or woman or whoever he was trying to replicate and then he would create a new fake piece

13:13that they did that was so good that experts couldn't understand it experts were they were like this is this is a Picasso like I know Picasso I've seen Picasso I studyed Picasso this is a Picasso that's how good he was and I think what him up was he got got cocky and he used a color of paint that wasn't available back then and it was almost like some it speculated that he did it like he wanted to see if he could get caught like it's almost like he wanted to take credit for his work yeah like a serial killer or some yeah exactly you know um that was that that was how it happened right did he get caught with I'm pretty sure cuz I was really confused as I was watching it cuz he and his wife both got they were both arrested and both were serving prison sentences but they were allowed out during the day to go work to draw and they had to be separated for some in

14:03some part but yeah I think he was working now selling art of his own because he was so good and people knew how good his forgeries were some people actually wanted those forgeries because they were so good so now he's the name of his own I'm I can't wait to somebody forges his well he doesn't have a style he's like a ha comedian he's a ha comedian you know what I mean but obviously super talented what a Bittersweet thing though because you got to think that a guy that can be that talented that can replicate that that is Art right right he's doing New pieces right New pieces in their style which in a way is kind of more honorable of form of forgery I mean if you're going to go down the food chain like to to recreate a piece of art is probably more honorable or or or to create your own version of this person's Arts probably more honorable than like if you had a

14:56painting and i' made an exact duplicate of it when when you first started the story I was like rich people for being so much into art they deserve to get screwed by this dude then when you said he's a hack then I related to it on a comedy level and I was like this guy I I feel the pain of following hacks who are ripping you know what I'm saying or or getting you know accolades and audiences don't know that they're a hack oh that's the wor the story I can relate to it on on on different levels isn't that a terrible feeling when you walk in a room and someone's killing with some like really material like you know for sure this is just chop chop material yeah it makes me more angry at the audience than the person cuz I've already been angry at this person I've already seen him before known him before most likely but then it's like I have to try to do my in front of this

15:49audience that doesn't know that this is fake this is a fake y'all yeah I watched somebody steal one of Freddy SoDo bits the other day oh and I had to leave the room audience was laughing and I had to leave the room I was like oh God yeah I can't even see this yeah you know especially a guy like Freddy who's dead who was awesome one of the best guys ever just such a sweetie I'm trying I'm trying to get over stuff like that though and not let it affect me yeah you got to just get away from it you know we were talking about that last night um Tony hinchcliff and I cuz he was talking about um people that get to a certain point in their career and then they wind up things up Tony's like super ambitious M so Tony's um he's essentially making sure that none of this stuff ever happens to him so he's like seeing things that people have up MH and and then you know

16:41dealing with people that hate on him because he's ambitious because you know he's always getting after it right that kid's always writing always doing new stuff and some people they just get upset with them like they think they they feel like his his ambition is threatening to their examination of themselves right you know and we were having a conversation about it last night and I was like don't dwell on it just you know it's easier said than done but you see all these people out there that are up don't pay attention to them right just there's plenty of people around like Burr like you like Joey like Ari there's there's plenty of people that are out there that are just killing it right pay attention to them you know this is the best time ever for this yeah you know like my new thing is you know and I've done it in spirits like just focus on the that I want not

17:32the stuff that can stop me from getting what I want but if I find like if you focus on the stuff that you want or where you want to get to and you have tunnel vision then you'll be fine and you'll get there like instead of creating all this wasting time taking the time away from your creativity thinking about what people are thinking about you and all that stuff and just focus on like I need to make this joke work this joke work I need to do this I need to do that everything that gets you that step further you know well there's I think there's patterns of thought that are really easy to fall into yeah they just seem natural and one of them is when there is something that's in your way and you're trying to figure out why it's in your way you start concentrating on some of the aspects of it that are out of your control right like you know how come they don't like what I do but

18:18they like what she does or how come you know this is happening how the did this guy get this how instead of try to figure out how to get so tuned into what you're doing that you don't concentrate on what they don't want you just concentrate God how many times I clear my throat I got to stop drinking this butter coffee up podcasts it does right I'm a little too a little too much but it's hard to say I mean it's it's easy to say it's hard to do it's hard to actually like get your mind into a place where you're concentrating on only what you're trying to do especially when in the beginning of your career you're trying to get out there and get booked and wants to book you right some dude was bitching about that at the comedy store the other night he was talking about how uh you know nobody's helping him out and all you know all these other people are doing

19:10well and but you know it's just it seems like it's and the system is like stacked against him it's like Jesus Christ like you're you're dead well it's it's so foolish because nobody knows who you are first of all if nobody knows who you are there's no there's no plotting against you they don't know yet right and this idea that this it's some big Grand conspiracy just because fear and ego both of those together but these patterns and these patterns that people go down to down through they're just they seem real normal it seems normal to concentrate on stupid it's almost like it's a distraction from concentrating on the really important that's it's it's so comforting I'm trying not to clear my throat it just do it man but it's it's so comforting to go down those stup stupid patterns right that's what happens with people that's how people get obsessed about things

20:02they get obsessive they start freaking out it's like they patterns cre your own distractions like listen man nobody can work harder to stop you than you want to work hard enough to make it so just just work hard and you you're good nobody nobody's like taking that much time out of their life to stop you like that yeah well most of it is in your head yeah most of it is in our head most of it yeah especially Comics well I guess everybody but like I've had a good as a comic I've been in my head we all have yeah everybody has I you know Frank EST Ste and I were talking about this last night the ComEd store bar we're talking about the difference between when you're learning how to do standup and you kind of like wonder if this is going to work like you have this idea like oh God is this going to work can I get this to work how do I get this to work mhm what

20:55you still kind of do is you get like better at it or more experienced but as you get older it's how do I convey why I think this is funny right you know MH yeah before I had like jokes yeah right but now I have like Concepts or premises that that aren't funny it's like how do I make this funny yeah what do I think is funny about this yeah yeah how do we get started on this we're talk talking about something I was going to diverge but I forgot what did where did we go from we went from we're going to show the Tom sigura thing we should probably just show that that's why I'm so distracted this Tom let me just explain this let we give let me get a little uh in depth Tom seura our pal uh is killing it he's been on the road he's selling out theaters he's killing it all over the place and one of the things that he has to do unfortunately is sometimes he has to do

21:52these morning shows so if he's trying to sell tickets and let everybody know that he's in town he does morning radio and he'll do these morning TV shows and when you talk about like levels of lameness for like entertainment like the morning shows are the most it's like it's like people who think milk is spicy you know they just like how can you drink a whole milk I have to water my milk down and put sugar in it it's like the last remnants of Grandma TV it is they're the weirdest shows yeah they don't they don't bear any resemblance to anybody that I know that that age when I see them talking these young people young handsome good-look people and you go how who the are they who talks like this what planet are they from where where is this taking place you guys are a a time capsule to a 1950s that never really existed it's a media depiction of the the Norman Rockwell

22:48days yeah it's like it's like they colorize some old black and white news footage yeah you know they're brutal they're brutal to do point being um morning radio shows are usually pretty fun you know most of those guys are just trying to have a good time but so Tom goes on these morning TV shows and now he has a character and his character is a rapper and uh he wears he's got a chinchilla scarf on and a giant fat gold rope and he's wearing his sunglasses with his Cincinnati hat on and he plays his character now and he just says a bunch of crazy and it's to him so much more fun than actually like trying to have a so Tom where did you start comedy and when did you know that you were going to be a funny man instead of that he you know he does this guy man so the announcement big announcement the big announcement I want to make uh is that last year you know uh

23:49I I came out as ply and by and now I'm proud to say that uh I'm non-binary what is that interesting is there any is there more to this cuz I'm confused oh yeah like so most people fall within the male and female binary right and then I'm non-binary so I don't fall into either one you know so like I'm actually like fluid binary meaning that depending on the moment I kind of go between different genders inter so like today I'm astral gender right now which is a I'm a gender from outer space as Two Hosts who couldn't find a door yesterday get into a place we are totally lost listen to the way they're talking I'm trying to giggle through it Prett it's a pretty big thing to come out as non-binary so you're the first we've encountered really yeah so that is a big announcement it's a big announcement announcing that on our show yeah I'm happy to share with everybody

24:47you she actually listen the way he if you don't mind refering me as like being all the way but the the chick is at least trying to be a little bit real it's done they are going to be The Comedy Zone tonight so what can people expect from you all oh God uh well you know we're going to do our thing it's a it's a whole new hour it's it's different uh than mostly stories or completely normal the last two Netflix specials so it's a whole new hour and then um you know I'll I'll be going from from the stage like I said to spinning records at a local uh place for for an after show so maybe doing some recruiting here in the area too right yeah I mean um you know I might have time to swing by TR uh Tallahassee maybe on Friday meet some players and try to sign somebody else but um I'm excited you are a busy guy yeah a triple threat but in different different careers I like

25:40that absolutely come on well you can catch Tom on stage all weekend at the comedy zone shout out to throatzilla we're gonna give away shout out to throatzilla oh say throatzilla do you don't know who rozilla no no Tom sigura is obsessed with black Twitter and uh and so is Jamie So Jamie can clue you know better than anybody but throatzilla is apparently a prostitute who's famous for her oral skills and she was involved in some sort of a paid sexual experience with a football player who turned out to be uh cheap skate didn't want to pay up so she blew him up and uh then everybody got to know who throatzilla is and throatzilla has a hilarious Instagram page well we don't need to see what football player it is like let let people do some Googling leave the man alone he liked getting his ass eaten nothing wrong with that she's got a popular Snapchat too apparently but

26:47she's hilarious she's hilarious she's actually been a guest on your mom's house you ever listen to your mom's house I've been on it but you been on it yeah you haven't listened I haven't listened to well you listened to the one that you were on cuz you were in it you were involved you had to be listed right so one me too I've listed to a couple of their clips though online their is hilarious they're so funny together yeah they've been ping up their YouTube channel so they got all their new podcast just like we've been doing and some clips up there too they're killing thas killing it on the road too he's killing it it's so nice so nice to see a guy who's that talented just get recognized you know he's doing dope man I'm happy for him yeah he's a funny dude man yeah like even just watching now he's just having fun like yeah you can make anything fun man like

27:33you don't want to get up in the morning and do that that is tiring he's just I'm G to figure out a way to do this yeah they're brutal those those are the most brutal it's also brutal because you know that you're going to have to like figure out a way to be awake at 8:00 for the show like you can't be sleepy you know so you know you only got like two or three hours sleep before you got up for this thing CU most of the time most Comics don't go to bed till like or two you get up at 6 do this radio thing blur eyed and most of the time it sucks and yeah and then you got to kind of be phony too sometimes cuz you you're like with a bunch of phony people so it's like this is a great way to not be phony and make fun of this phony situation yeah with Tom's he's figured it out I never figured it out I would just go and do them me too like that guy in the blue shirt full of yeah P at least the

28:23girl was like I don't get it and she nervously said it but she said it and then she there's another other things she reacted to like the correct way but still with a nice morning uh TV personality person way but at least she was like more honest the guy was like you know hey well that's good to know rolling with the thing that he doesn't even understand well what he's doing is what they do it's that way of talking that you know that there's a bunch of different fake ways of talking that people just slide right into like uh strip club DJ that's one right top 40 DJ that's one hey coming up next all right you know there's a there's a way of talking that is exactly the same and they all they all replicate it those are two like real big ones yeah news people voice mhm news newsman voice the news yeah yeah there's a way of talking what makes people think and there's like

29:18subtle variations that even like today's Pros use there's a style of communication that lets you know they mean business this is very serious very very serious yeah so these morning guys they they have like Ryan secrist posters up all over their house he's a God he's the god of that style that Ryan Cris nailed it he nailed it at life all he did what name is Talent all he does is talk smooth and look great keeps his hair quaffed M like literally guys made hundreds of millions of dollars by talking smooth and looking great that's it just being that guy all right way to go J can it all right likes everything next two yeah next two colors it's all you have to do just never get Negative let it all roll off your back yeah when you go home you scream into a pillowcase what is this who wants to dress like Ryan test a lot of people in New York Magazine what are you showing

30:17me here buddy he's got a clothing line he's got a popular clothing line and I thought course he fun quote did you hear about what happened with AO and oen oor no somebody told me on the way up I saw like a a photo of him like on a news feed but she's accusing him of giving Prince peret what and Prince dying off overdose Cado Conor is accusing arcenio Hall of doing that why would she do that is that true wait a minute first of all just because you gave someone a Percocet like a lot of people take perco setes and there's nothing wrong with them they're they're going to be okay but she called the feds and said I called the feds God and you better get your house in order cuz they're coming for you like she's basically blaming him for Prince's death that's so crazy first of all he had an addiction to pain pills right hall has denied the heinous accusations in the lawsuit despicable

31:18fabricated lies that's awful it's awful in a whole bunch of ways like it's awful that Prince was addicted to pills right I didn't expect that I guess he was was addicted to pills because of his hips MH apparently his hips just up from all those years of spinning around and throwing kicks and doing splits throwing kicks you know when he would do those shows man he was super active and he was always just dropping down and doing the splits like that's probably not the best way to treat your body like a lot of that stuff was super impressive CU it was like real explosive you know he' spin around with his guitar and drop down do the splits it's like WWE moves like and and yeah like those wrestlers and they get hooked too when um Dave Chappelle had that whole bit about Prince being a really good basketball player with Charlie Murphy it makes sense like of course he is like

32:07look how fast he is look how like well he moves when he dances on stage but I guess that just played wrecked havoc on his legs yeah that was electric man like I was like after he died I was watching some concept footage and it's like he makes you feel like you're there he puts on a show man yeah he was one of the greats without a doubt one of the alltime greats I mean when it comes to music I mean we were talking about this uh on a recent podcast about uh I want to be your lover when that song came out I was like who is this guy it just it just had this completely new sort of feel to it where you were hoping like I hope this this kid like I remember there's a bunch of artists that when they came out like teren Trent Derby was one of them he was one of them where he came out and his songs were so cool I was like like I hope this guy figures this out right I

33:00hope this guy keeps going because some of these guys they'll they'll come out with some really cool songs and a really cool thing and then it goes away which is crazy we was talking about guns and roses last night cuz they they were one of the groups like all right this is going to be around for a long time for sure they're the next new Rolling Stones or whatever and it's just like they just yeah they just it's more it's more of a shock that they didn't last and than if they did right you know yeah and Terence TR jaw be like yeah he was he's one of those short things back then you're like some people you heard you're like they're are one hit wonder you're like no this person is going to be tented yeah C Conor too she's one of them yeah that was so and is so talented that you go well where's her body of work why doesn't she have a hundred albums out why doesn't

33:54she have a million hits she's so good when she's on mhm you know like the early when she first came out you like wo she's she's a a storm like an electric storm like Jesus Christ she was good she might be like sensitive or something happened to her probably she got turned off from the business or something well do you remember when she tore up that picture of the Pope right that was a big problem I think she wasn't ready for that negativity that came with that that opinion that was like 20 years ahead of time yeah yeah I know man she was right isn't that crazy yeah she was right yeah if she did that today people would support her and cheer for her she's a very brave person in that regard yeah if she did it today they' be like she's a hack yeah people been doing that she did then she did it too soon it's too original too soon there was this kid a long time ago that had an MTV

34:49music video and people were saying that this kid is the future of rock and roll he's like 19 years old when the um he had a song called beat so lonely find find who sings that but this dude was like a badass guitarist and he was like 19 years old and it was one of those things where they were hyping him up yeah Charlie seon so if we play this it'll probably get us kicked off YouTube right I can play it for the audio play it for the audio for people who this anyway this guy was really young and he was this good-look Johnny like a like a Johnny Depp who does a lot of speed he was like this goodlook young talented guitarist and what is it what year does it say down there Jamie if you scroll down damn yeah okay so this is my senior year in high school and this guy came out and there was this crazy black and white music video This is the days of MTV you know so he's

35:47walking down this black and white stream and in between him walking with this cool looking earrings and his Fonzi leather jacket on you see the producers sliding up the dials on the mixing board and all these neon signs and you know was so stylish and produced and so obviously contrived but as a 15 what was I 17 I guess yeah 17-year-old kid watching this I remember thinking whoa like this guy is uh you know he not that much older than me and he's like smoking cigarettes hanging out with these rockers but it's not playing any of the song yet it's just the but like his singing is kind of interesting too but they put so much effort into this it was it was one of those things it was like well they're for sure gonna force feed us this guy like present rock stars make videos like this now like retro retro versions of this that are Hest good this is a pretty good song people are getting mad

37:00at me right now no it's not you I'm telling you I really like this song especially when it came out when I was 17 and I thought this guy was going to be giant he had all the right pieces he didn't have tattoos back then cuz dude didn't have tattoos but if he if it was today he would have tattoos all over his hands and he have some on written on his neck but he's got all the right bracelets his hair look all the right place his hair looks perfect hilarious I want him to listen to the show and call in or something where is he now maybe I'm wrong maybe he's like a giant country star there's country stars that you don't even know about that are like hundreds of millions of sales but I just saw the when you show the image of me I realize how high I am like slow down I'm getting high I'm not even Bullit you got you got high in this room just we Hot Box ean's got an adversity

37:53to the weed anybody tells you can't get hot box is a liar too by the way I can tell you that right now somebody tried to tell me the other day that hot boxing isn't real I was like what are you talking about it's a 100% real you're breathing in weed in a room where there's weed it's like smoking weed yeah yeah I mean it's not as effective it's taking a hit but it's pretty close if you staying there long enough and it's the room is like like if there's a lot of weed going around and the room is small and it's intense and it's in the air that's all you're going to breathe in that's all you're breathing in it might be more than taking a few hits if when you're out in the street with some friends did I ever tell you about when I was a judge for the Cannabis Club Cannabis Cup Cannabis Cup yeah I judged the Cannabis Cup one year and they would hand you you know

38:40how like um old people that have like hip injuries they carry around a lot of pills they'll have like a Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday like one those little seven tray things this is what they gave you and it was filled with weed and they were handing out pipes and lighters and Edibles and it was so ridiculous the idea that anybody got judged was so ridiculous hilarious because it was me and a bunch of other people who are Judges like people from the local cannabis community and I think there were some rappers in there as well but by the time you're on pot number two like who knows what's happening yeah exactly who how do you know if three is affecting you or four is affecting you or five or one you don't you don't you don't have any idea you have to do that each one for a day you do one and you come back the next day do the other one

39:32and that still might not be enough time I think you're 100% right and then you also would have to deal with the fact that if you did it on Monday Tuesday one if you did it every day like that your body would get accustomed to getting high yeah so you probably get less high as a week goes on but some people say that like diff you get a custom different strength that's Joey Diaz though Joey deaz listen dog I smoke different every day I don't want these getting used to me like he used to me he thinks you get used to certain kinds of weed and they don't affect they don't affect you anymore you got to try new it's he might he might be on to something though I think he's right I think he's right yeah yeah for sure yeah I think he's right too in a in some sort of a way for sure with like sativas versus indicas is definitely a different feeling right there's so many strains here you can get

40:20out of the story just you can try it just smoke one for a week and then just get a different one you're like holy yeah even get cheaper weed instead of smoking all the the top shelf stuff's what's me up now sativa or IND this is sativa sativa yeah um this is I'll tell you what it's called is that are they labeled these are all from La speedweed La speed weed's the way to go ladies and gentlemen if you're in Los Angeles Los Angeles is the most ridiculous thing in the world because uh they're trying to stop that and they're they're trying to stop it in some weird they're some sort of a zoning way like what what they're trying to say is cuz he's delivering it like where he's selling it becomes a place of business so it has to be zoned in a certain way like this is the argument which is ridiculous because how would fast food restaurants deliver like how would

41:07dominoes deliver cuz do these places aren't zoned for being restaurants like if someone just shows up be your house with a pizza like your house doesn't have to be zoned for being a restaurant for him to show up at your house with a pizza but if someone shows up at your house selling weed M that and you live next to a school right it becomes problematic it's interesting it's it's an interesting argument it's going to go away because it's silly but um it's going to cost a lot of people some money and probably Gino from La speedweed is going to cost him some money it's a it feels like something the city makes up to try to make some money yeah probably well might might be someone who's anti-weed who is at the at the top like I I have some friends that are not pot smokers that don't like pot don't believe in pot and they're you know older than me and they they'll still

41:52hang on to some of these silly ideas about pot and they well you're different you know to me I go oh I'm Different like what are you talking about I'm I'm like 90% of potheads are like me like it's the ones who Stand Out are the ones that are the outliers it's the ones with the dirty feet and the the macate clothes and you playing what is that thing when you kick the ball with your foot hacky sack yeah that's funny it's like when you belong to a group there's always an annoying section of that group yes that makes you not want to belong to that group that's that's with black people or gay people certain type of gay people that other gay people like can't stand cuz it might give gay people a bad look and they say same thing with weed yeah and then then somebody who's against that thing completely meets you like I've been you know like when I was a teenager white

42:46people like you're different than other black guys which was an insult for sure that's like in the social justice Warrior handbook how not to talk to black guys exactly it was it it's almost as bad as saying but you're telling me I'd rather you call me at that point because now you're telling me I'm not black enough right you know what I'm saying right and and and first of all you don't know any other black people we're working at Burger King I'm the first one you met so you're only listening the only thing you know about black people is what you see on the news so then when you meet me and you don't feel threatened then you're like you're not like other black guys but I'm the only black person you know you live in an allh neighborhood I'm working in an allh neighborhood Burger King that's hilarious it's so true that's why one of the reasons why New York City is such a good

43:31place to live because everybody integrates because New York City everybody's on the subway everybody's walking on the street and everybody's around everybody one of the weird things about La in general is that it's a car culture and you you're in your little isolated box and you drive to your little isolated community and then you go back and forth from work to wherever you hang out and those are your spots and you don't interact with other people like face Toof face personto person on a daily basis mhm that's the best thing about New York yeah cuz that train man everybody's on that train all kinds of people cuz even if you're rich enough to like take a taxi it's traffic up there yep the train is still the fastest place fastest way somewhere it's the only way to go yeah it's mixed man it's good yeah it's it's it's super important too because one of the things that I think

44:22everybody who I know who used to be poor we Ron White and I were talking about this the other night like when when you're when you haven't made it when you're when you're broke you always feel like it's never going to happen right you always feel like it's completely out of touch like I'm poor I'm always going to be poor this struggle is never going to go away but when you're around people who used to be poor too but they figured out how to do it you go oh they're just a person right you know and when you see some dude and he's in some corner office in some giant ass building and he's a CEO of the compan you can't imagine that at one point in that guy's life he was up like at one point in his life he was depressed and lost and failing in school and couldn't figure it out you know and was wondering about his future but almost everybody has lows almost everybody has

45:14almost every successful person that I've ever met had some crazy adversity early on they figured their way through that and then they figured out how to become successful partially even because of that so when you're on like a train and everybody's all together I think it's the one of the best sort of ways to keep that separation that Us and Them separation with like the classes especially cuz that's a real mindset of rich people and a real mindset of poor people that they're just there's two different groups of us but it's so stupid it's not it's just a bunch of people and they're on the same Journey that you're on in a different direction just maybe a little bit further down the road right right or maybe they didn't stop as many times as you did maybe they didn't get flat tires maybe they didn't you know have as many potholes in the road but they're all we're all just on this same

46:07thing we're all just people so when you look at some dude you know and you're poor and you got holes in your sneakers and some guys got a Rolex on and he's wearing this expensive suit and he's got cuff links and he's checking his newspaper and reading the Wall Street Journal and you look at his expensive shoes like this motherfucker's got some money man how the hell did he do that and I'm here a loser he just did it just he's just a person just like you man right you you don't know you never look at his origin story yeah you just look straight at Batman doing doing this exactly you see where they have to go through to you know it's a good point to learn all that it's a good way to put it and you want to you want to get there yeah you want to get there but it seems like it's impossible yeah speaking of getting there I tried to watch soccer last night Ian Edward oh yeah I was

46:49going to bring that up people tweeted me that you're watching soccer I'm I'm going invite you to a game on Sunday at the at the Galaxy is Mother's Day Mother's Day oh can't happen I can't do it but yeah what what happened why well I was at the store and uh we were hanging out in the secret comedians bar and um and soccer was on so we just started watching it started watch watching that who had that on Ron White was watching it I was watching it some of the employees were watching it um who else was in there with us Tony was watching at one point but I started getting upset at these dudes getting slapped and going down like that got hit with a meteor I didn't like that I'm like I just can't support this kind of nonsense you watching a really good game yeah you're watching a really good game yeah it was amazing like skill-wise Bayern Munich in the red they're the

47:38best German team and this is a Champions League game so I don't even know how to explain it champions league is where the four best teams in each league in each country like playing a tournament to to be the best club team in Europe so Bayern is is is like the number one team in Germany Athletico they're like number two number three right now they're actually in Number the number two spot right now but last year they finish maybe second or third and they're they have less money but their coach is an ex Argentina player and he figured out a system where they just hustle they just out hustle you you get the ball and there's three on you and you're going to cough it up and they're going to get it and they'll score one or two goals a game and that's enough but you know and Bayern is just so really skilled that they might be able to to they beat most teams but athletica

48:35just so disciplined that you know they they knocked them out and and they're they're going to the Champions League final versus Real Madrid so there's two Spanish teams in the Champions League final and both of them are from the same city so it's like the Lakers versus the Clippers for like the best the the championship of what what what what are we in like the of North America when when we do it in North America we call it the World Championships we call it the what what yeah the the NBA is the World Championships right yeah it's just because it's all the best players in the world technically no I I understand but like when they do it in the World Cup it actually is the world it is the world yeah it is the world cuz there's not really any competition coming over from Europe trying to play against the Lakers right it's just it's not really going to happen they're not going to have a team

49:25that they develop overseas that can compete with an LA like basketball has this thing where I think they have like all the North American they have a tournament where all the like Brazil and and like all the are we in North am what where are all the North American teams or did you really ask that yeah listen man you were born another country I've just been hot boxed like I don't know what the is just me hot boox so so yeah like like all the the the countries play around this area around this area play against each other and I guess America normally wins but this is this is this is this is a big tournament man yeah this is the actual whole world and that's what I what I was thinking like are there any sports where the United States competes with the whole world and does well in Saka no in any other sport yeah well I was just to say the difference in this

50:20too is where you're thinking I guess maybe World Cup is team teams for countries right this is uh teams for professional clubs are and these teams play the United States they would play like the Columbus Crew La they're not on the same skill level so it would be a really bad game okay so when someone says like Manchester United that's a club that's a club that's like the Yankees okay yeah that's like the Yankees in soccer in England yeah okay um but when you would think of so they would play against a bunch of other different they also there's a real Madrid basketball team and they wouldn't want to play against like any NBA team cuz they would get destroyed the same way they would beat our soccer teams but the United States plays Spain in like World Cup type competition and we also have something like that where it's a conaf and it's like United States versus Mexico versus

51:09some of the smaller uh Latin American countries what I was getting at was is there a sport where the United States is competitive in a world stage like a sport where basketball yeah like basketball we're usually like yeah but we don't the world doesn't play basketball the problem with us being competitive at basketball it's like someone over here being a cricket Champion nobody gives a like if you go to Greece or turkey or Spain they have they have their version of the NBA right right they have their version of the NBA but those teams and those players are not as good as ours and they come from all different countries and then when you when it's time for you to play for your country you're still not as good as America and then and and that's when in the Olympics they have a world championship for basketball for real I think and they have the Olympics which is like the one that everybody

52:00pays attention to the most that's where all the countries get together and play basketball but isn't it fascinating that there's a clear winner as far as like who is the best still when what is basketball really it's moving your feet which everybody knows how to do throwing a ball which most people know how to do dribbling and then learning how to get super awesome at all those skills right that doesn't seem like it's not like something where someone has to teach you some master strategist who's like the greatest in the world has to teach you like it's almost like a form of expression right it's like why are Americans so much better at it I think I don't know it's like in soccer Brazil like I've been trying to ask myself the same why is Brazil so good at soccer they love it you know but it's but a lot of countries around the world love it but they have like five World

52:52Cup championships or maybe six Germany's good too Brazil has a great history of soccer like with P of course but they also have a great history of like nationalism and competitive Athletics like think about how many Brazilian MMA Champions they are I mean there's so many Brazil hajer Gracie just won one FC last night so there's a new Brazilian Champion like there's so many Brazilian Champions he choked out some dude in one FC which is the Asia version of uh the UFC right which is getting bigger and bigger there's there's a a bunch of like really big organizations overseas now that are that are starting to build up momentum but if you look at like martial arts champions from Brazil Jesus Christ there's so many of them so many in the UFC so many former Champions so many Elite highlevel Fighters like there's a card next weekend in Brazil and it's all like the killers of the killer of like

53:51in Brazilian Champions vtor Belford versus joare Anderson Silva's fighting Hall oh my God it's incredible there's so there's so much super highle talent that came out of Brazil isah Brazilian Faber yeah no you mean Rah Hall okay Hall's black he's from um Jamaica I believe oh that big monster dude dude oh yeah robot dark as cold lightning fast he's one of my favorites that dude is he's such a nice guy too that's the thing about him like he he made some like really heartfelt statement once after one of his uh fights uh you know about people getting along and I was like this guy is like legit like this is really him he's such a nice guy right and that's almost been one of the things that held him back like Dana White had criticized him of it he said he's so talented but he's almost too nice for fighting I don't think that's true I think he just needs more

54:46fights and but he's got a big one with Anderson Silva It's a big like Crossroads fight it shows where Anderson's at because if Anderson can get past Uriah who's one of the best 185 pounders alive right now yri is a lightning fast Striker I'm picturing yri and he feels bigger than Anderson Sil no he's more muscular for sure he he's built way better he's he's probably faster which is crazy but you know this is we're talking about Anderson Silva at 40 years old versus Anderson Sil at like 34 but IAH is um he's like got traditional martial arts skills out a super super high level like he does a lot of stuff like spinning back kicks and wheel kicks and knocks guys out with him and real high level guys like he hit gay guard mousasi there's IAH he hit gay guard musasi with a spinning back kick to the face and it was a fight that we were calling for fight companion and my

55:37thoughts on him I was like I'm telling you this guy can do things in these explosive movements and I'm I'm like I'm so used to seeing people move you know I'm so used to seeing the way people throw kicks the way people throw punches when someone's movements stand out like ooo Jesus Christ like they've got it honed down to a a Razor's Edge with just lightning Precision it just really stands out and that's yah Hall yah Hall has these movements occasionally where he'll just drop a right hand on someone's chin and you just go whoa just like that guy was not moving like that by the time that punch got to him he had no idea that punch was coming I mean his his ability to close the distance with a shot is so scary so it's an interesting fight in that regard and I don't think it has does it have their ages there no no why are they hid in their age what they little girls kind of is that show

56:32your age well that's how why would they have all these different things yeah I was looking for height too oh okay so this is one um this is the stats they have the reach and they have the weight and then they have the height I was always amazed how Anderson Silva's body does not match his record well Anderson Silva when he was in his prime looked a little bit better than that but he's uh his body is a really good body for fighting right because in fighting like say a guy likeah Hall might be able to punch 10 or 15% harder than Anderson like who knows I mean he hits really hard let's say he can but if Anderson hits himh the 90% that Anderson can come up with is just as good right like it's the clean shots are the most important thing and it doesn't take like a giant bomb to knock you out a giant bomb can knock you out but doesn't take a giant bomb to knock you out what it takes is a shot

57:29you don't see coming and a perfectly play shot and Anderson is the master at perfectly placed shots he's the master he's the ultimate sniper out of all the guys that have ever fought in the UFC he impresses me the most with his ability to land these highlight re shots on people highlight re with James Irving he caught James Irvin's kick and just caved his face in with a punch the guy threw a kick and caught it and b boom and you could see the dude had never been hit like that before he goes down and Anderson Just uncorks a couple more on him and opens him up when he fought vtor he front kicked vtor in the face it was like the perfect front kick knockout and it was the first ever front kick knockout in the in the history of the UFC nobody had ever done it before and he did in a highlevel world championship fight against vtor belr it's crazy because it's it's the first kick you

58:23learn in martial arts it's like the first kick you learn how to do a front kick and nobody everybody goes ah that doesn't work you got to go with the brownhouse kicks and Anderson lands it right on his face and's a free ass dude you think he's is he back he's 40 so whatever back is is not going to be the same back um but if you look at a guy like Bernard Hopkins Bernard Hopkins who's an incredibly skillful technical boxer is still at this day like there's a video of him working out the other day he was hitting MS he looks great he's 50 years old he looks great like Bernard Hopkins right now at 50 years old could get in the ring and school solid 50% of the professional light heavyweights in the world School them we would look ugly but he'd School you School them you hold the out of you hold the out of you jab your face off you know move in weird ways up you know step on your toes upset

59:20your balance mug you in the corner hit you with like short short hard punches while he's clinching you you get in your head get you out of your game frustrate you or bomb you out like he did Felix Trinidad that Felix Trinidad fight he put on a show with Felix Trinidad I was always a big Bernard Hopkins fan so when he fought Trinidad and him up for me it was like I knew it I was surpris I feel I thought Felix was the truth you know well he was he was for a moment but I don't think he resp I don't know to say I don't think he respected Bernard I don't think he knew how good Bernard really was I think he was doing so well and Trinidad was such a world beater and just such a tough dude I just I think he thought he could get through anything I think you know he was one of those guys that you know I I'm going to get through everybody everybody he's been to war

60:07before he's been tagged come about knock guys out but Bernard was on a another level that night yeah I've never seen anybody like Bernard it's so it's it's not traditional boxing like somebody who does that doesn't get as far as him right like I've never seen somebody and do it that much well he's a master he's a real master if you watch his footwork in the in the the ring it's always measured it's always under control he always knows exactly what he's doing and when he doesn't know exactly what he's doing he resets he's not winging anything he's not taking any stupid chances what was that the dude he beat for the title at 49 years of age was this young stud this guy was like 32 years old some Russian dude bad and he dropped him Bernard dropped him at 49 years of age and people like God and then he fought kovalev and that was a fight that showed there's a difference between the highest

61:03of the high level right now and where Bernard is right now with his life being 49 years old cuz kovalev was just too much for him and Bernard went into a shell and just fought real defensively and tried to survive but kovalev was opening up on him kovalev is scary that guy's the real deal there a lot of badass Russians these days I know like must be tough in Russia right it's got to be tough it's got to be tough in Russia like they they getting all the boxes like this is like the sport where like a lot of sports a lot of poor people come out and they they get to the top of it but yeah you could tell where it's poor where the poorest people are based on who's the best boxers in the world like like Russia must be rough right now that's a real good point you know that's how it always worked in America too it's like that's why Jews were a lot of boxers in

61:53the early days of the early part of the 20th Cent were Jewish mhm Slappy Maxi Rosen Bloom that was a dude there was a bunch of them man you could not have that as a boxing name right now you could be silly You' be silly but nobody would take you serious Slappy Maxi one of the top featherweight in the UFC Andre fely his his nickname is Andre touchy fely and oh boy he's a a weird ass name he's a fun he's a fun dude yeah has fun with it yeah yeah that's hilarious yeah man it's um it's interesting how that it works that way it's then it was the Italians there was a lot of Italians like Rocky Marciano Rocky Graziano there's a lot of you know um some Irish yeah yeah a lot of Irish a lot of immigrants it's immigrants that are you know poor people that need to learn how to fight to survive yeah literally fight to survive you know that's one of the reasons why these Russians are so tough man

62:48they're coming from a harder place it's a harder world and you know they're just like kovalev is a straight up killer you see it in his eyes when he's in the ring he ain't scared of he's just going to you up you know damn son and then the Gennady Golovkin he's another one Everybody's scared of that oh what what weight class I haven't watched boxing in a while it used to be my thing but he's a middleweight champ he everybody up damn everybody he's 100% undefeated and he's knocked everyone out I think me he had one fight that went the distance or a couple maybe a couple fights that went the distance but he's on some ridiculous knockout streak in a row mhm I should know that for sure pull that up Grady golov Triple G just a Triple G record I'm just impressed you can say his name so smoothly well he's got a second name that I can't it's there a Triple G it's

63:34gardi something something something Golovkin the middle one I don't even try with that it's hilarious but he's he's a assassin man his name sounds like when you fall asleep on your keyboard yeah and then you wake up and then you just see a bunch of letters oh yeah they're all Kos yeah the okay unanimous decision there we go that's way back in 2008 he had a unanimous decision win but he's on he's got a couple unanimous decisions three there that I see so he's on a streak of like how many how many Kos in a row one two 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 is a Lot 21 or so 21 Kos you know what's funny about this chart like to see the flags from the different countries that people he's knocked out yeah is funny right lot of you know knocked out a lot of people from a lot of places he's so next level he he fought Dominic Wade in his last fight Jesus Christ man he that dude up

64:37he's so next level so dangerous man at one point in the fight he dropped his hands and he was letting Wade punch him oh he was just moving his head as Wade was punching him and then he uncorks bombs on him he's a terrifying guy and he looks like a little cutie pie like you ever see what he looks like no go to go to a picture of him look at him he's a cutie that's a baby he's a babyfaced assassin he's like the real Babyface assassin like that guy looks like a straight up cutie like a handsome young man like an innocent ass a handsome young man with fine manners he dresses well well look dress almost a mime dressed like a mime kind of French meanwhile that dude is probably a direct descendant of the Mongols that's probably what it is like no Russians like Russia was occupied by the Mongols for 200 years mhm and a lot of these guys like rousan provodnikov who's

65:34going to be on the podcast soon with Nick kerson yeah they're going to come on together that should be fun that dude grew up in like Siberia he was eating raw moose he ate raw meat until he was like 25 years old he never had cooked meat his family ate raw moose Jesus Christ Jesus Christ provodnikov is a animal now he looks like he ate r moose yeah he did but I mean this is a guy who is uh another one probably a direct descendant of the Mongols yeah man there was so many super Warriors that came out of that DNA and you look at a guy like provodnikov I mean he just screams like ancient warrior DNA I mean look at him look at his his face and the way he fights you got to hit that dude with a crowbar to hurt him he he engages in wars with these people damn I got to get back into boxing that Lucas matis fight was insane panov and matis just teed off on each other and

66:36you just you matis is a brutal knockout puncher and when he was hitting panikov you were like how is he absorbing these shots he's absorbed shots that matis was able to put everybody else away with like look at that shot boom matis like it's a weird like you look at the guy and you say okay obviously looks like he's in shape he looks athletic but he doesn't look like a big Power puncher right like if you look at him he's not like he's not built like Marvin Haggler or Mike Tyson or something like that he's more smooth and it's it's it just shows you that punching power is a really weird thing and it's not saying that mati is in any way unfit he's very fit very strong very good athlete but his punching power is almost just like skeletal it like comes from his frame and some sort of of a strange way and there's there's a bunch of guys that are like that there's this kid in the UFC

67:30his name is Mike McDonald mhm and he's like that like go to Mike McDonald this kid is a murderous puncher but if you look at him you you look he looks like uh you know like a regular kid like a regular like athlete yeah some people you expect them when you look at them body you're like this person probably can hit hard look at this kid and they don't he's got a sweet face goofy face see if you can get a picture of his whole body just standing there you get a sense of like I mean he's obviously a good athlete but like right there good example he's obviously good at but his punching power is disturbing it's disturbing right like he he cracks guys with shots and you see the look in their face like what in the what is going on with this dude's hands he just hits so hard and with so much Precision he's nasty on the ground too damn he's a real threat this kid and he's super young I

68:28think he's only like 23 Jesus yeah he already fought for the title he lost to baral in a crazy fight but a fight where really got he really got tested he showed what he's capable of the but the body thing it's very strange but makes a person you never know it's it's weird like punching power is different than almost any other kind of athletic power mhm like you don't see it coming like if you see someone who has a big ass and giant quad and they're on the starting block like I bet that dude can run you know but you see a guy like McDonald and you wouldn't necessarily go I bet that guy can punch right right whereas yah Hall they're both murderous punchers but yah Hall you see it you go obviously that guy can punch look at you'd be more surprised if he couldn't yeah and there are guys like that too which is weird yeah it's weird like this person should be able to you know yeah it's like

69:19seeing a seven foot center you know like nobody like there's these centers in the NBA like or he's 7 feet and they sucked from the day that we drafted but every team year after year will still put them on the team but he's 7 feet maybe this is the year 12 years in when he's going to do the seven foot and they never do it but they make all this money because it's they built like they they should be able to do seven foot or or people are built like they're supposed to be able to hit and they just can't so do they get a guy like that and they say well we're going to we're going to take him in and then we're going to get our coaches on them we're going to show this guy how to reach his full potential and then they just don't and then through the season they said oh I see why the other teams dropped him and we stuck with him on the bench no you get stuck with him on the bench you bring

70:04him in once in a while with a guy that big is it just difficult to move their body right they say that but like Shaq did it Shaq was his movement was amazing like almost small forward like really some of the that he used to do and Akim alanan moved well MH and uh David Robinson moved well there's a lot of there's a there was some there's some there's some some uh some like I don't know there's there's a lot of centers that could move so when they say it's tough to move your body I don't get it it is it is rare like good centers are rare so I guess maybe it is but when you see the ones that do it you it makes you wonder it makes you look down on the people that can't like if I'm seven feet I'm thinking I could do some stuff I could be decent enough but there's some guys at 7 feet and they really don't do anything except be seven feet H now is it a benefit just having

71:07the big guy there because they can do things and block people and get in the way make it difficult for the other team to to use their offense yeah it's it's a mentality like they always say you can't teach height okay that makes sense and and then it was like the 80s and the 90s was like the center game so everybody just felt more secure with a center you know right so they would plan their strategy around the the tall guy yeah the tall guy yeah because he can get the ball above people he has more like especially the way they're throwing the ball down at people instead of like up and down right he could probably do some stuff as far as like get in the way get his physical body to block people in the way but sometimes they're not even good enough to do that and then they have to get rid of him for real like cuz you so they say let's get this guy he'll do the

71:52least and then they don't even do the least do you think that's because they're lazy um because it was always easy for them because they were always so big and so like as through their career they were they always had a giant height Advantage it's like being transgender like you're a 5 foot4 person born in a s foot person's body you know what I'm saying like like you're not supposed to be there you're supposed to be doing something else you just got stuck with this basketball frame like some people just can't do it so some people they got stuck with a basketball frame but they don't have a basketball mind or heart yeah or heart yeah you have to like want to move your body in very difficult ways right cuz I would like one of the things you notice about fighters in particular like um you ever seen that guy uh chocolatito fight no so believe he flyweight what weight is he Champion I

72:44watched him fight the other day awesome boxer amazing counter fighter but so light and so small like Mighty Mouse in the UFC is probably a better example cuz Mighty Mouse fights at 125 pounds and he's the best in the world like no one can with him like not just the best in the world at 125 he's the best in the world hands down there's no argument anymore after his last fight where he destroyed Henry cejudo everybody just lifts their hands up and go he's the best he's the best that's good but he's with 125 pounds and the way he moves I always wonder I'm like could a 200 lb guy move like that could a 255b guy move like that is it even possible like can we get like when you look at the the super athletes that are in the NFL and I think we can all agree the most explosive best athletes are in the NFL right agreed pretty close I mean I think there's probably some really highlevel

73:34guys in MMA at this point but I think that overall the most explosive highlevel athletes are in the in uh the NFL if you can get one of those NFL top guys could you teach him to move like Mighty Mouse if you started with him at a young age or is it a gravity thing is it that the 125lb guy he can just do stuff with his joints and his movement that the 260 lb guy just physically his body can't keep up you you know you know what the issue is it's like if you're little you know your little from your little from your from your young person so you you live little you move little right and you act little if you're big then you know you're big and there's certain things you just don't gravitate to doing because it doesn't fit your so you're big so it's crazy you almost have to convince hypnotize a big dude that you're little and make them like live little move like a little person move like a

74:37little person like and get used to it and then it becomes natural like Mighty Mouse moves like I'm little if I if I he fights like if he's fighting a bully in high school like I can't let that guy grab me I got to keep moving like a big guy's like let this grab me you know what I'm saying I want you to grab so they fight big it's like it's like just a mentality that's an excellent way of putting it that's an excellent I think you're totally right I think you're totally right cuz we all like do things according to just our physical makeup you know sure yeah but I wonder if you could get a guy at a young age like do you know the story of Marv marinovich and Todd marinovich I know Todd marinovic Todd marinovich who was a famous football player and his dad Marv was a famous strength and conditioning coach and and a coach a football coach so his dad took Todd from the time he was

75:29really little had him eating only healthy food no sugar working out like crazy putting him through all these drills and turned him into this like super athlete right but he rebelled because it was just like too much pressure in work he didn't want to do it he was doing it for his dad then he want quit then he went drugs and unhealthy yeah drugs unhealthy became an artist I maybe he's healthy now I think but it's interesting it's it's an interesting thing like this guy grabbed his young son from the time he was a baby and had him doing these strength drills and coordination drills like raised him with the idea of turning him into this and the results were amazing yeah yeah so you wonder like if someone could take a guy like uh Hershel Walker Hershel Walker one a perfect example yeah one of the best examples because Hershel actually fought MMA yeah yeah Hershel

76:16but he fought like a big man he dudes up dude he he he did in his late 40s and and you he was legitimately a threat or good um he was very good for the class that he was fighting in but he was fairly recent to MMA right but a long a lifelong martial artist like Hersha Walker even back in the days when he was in the NFL had some sort of a black belt and something oh look at him man I think in that picture he was like 47 Jesus Christ he always looked young and good and in shape and I don't understand what's going on I mean that doesn't even make any sense because he he looks like he's as big as he was when he was playing professional football two line heads two beheads yeah I'll kill you with my bare hands he said he was on top of this dude ground and pounded him and on top of that he trained at a world class gym he went to AKA D and he trained an American

77:12kickboxing Association which is where that's Tyron Woodley bro don't get racist on me how dare you just mixing up black men yeah you're mixing black people together here how dare you Jamie how dare you Google Google it's not Jamie it's Google sorry Google's racist but Hershel Walker when he was um when he was training was training with Cain Velasquez when Kane was the champ um or if Kan wasn't the champ he was one of the best in the world I don't I'm pretty sure he was the champ though and he was training with Daniel Cormier I believe was there at the time Luke rockold Kyle Kingsbury I mean he's training with like John Fitch was there he's training with like legit worldclass mixed martial artists legit guys and he was just doing it like a real pro athlete would do it he wasn't doing it like hey I'm a celebrity former football player I'm just going to

78:03kind of I'm going to take a fight like a Jose cono might do you know what I mean you ever see some of Jose con's like celebrity boxing matches and it's like come on it's like kind of he kind of barely did not Hershel herel like went at it like a real professional martial artist and Strike Force had him fight a few times he did that Olympic bob sled stuff for a while too after just stays active yeah yeah but he's an unbelievable athlete like he's he's a rare Bo Jackson type athlete like an outlier an outlier amongst professional outliers so if you could take a hersel walker and train him like get him to a guy like Matt Hume who trained Mighty Mouse and train him from the time he's a young man like 15 14 years old he could do it yeah he could do it he could do it it's him back in the day handsome bastard rocking the strong gold chains getting getting showing scars off

78:59doesn't give a I heard something like like I forgot how much how many push-ups he does a day but he oh something saying yeah something saying and he still does it yeah well I guess if you just keep doing it yeah you know your body stays like that it just requires unbelievable discipline yeah it does man but he skip days he's also real weird man like he has um what's called trauma induced multiple personality disorder oh believe that's how he describes it but trauma I'm not sure that mean they mean head trauma I think it's more like childhood trauma but I'm sure head trauma doesn't help yeah on top of that cuz for sure there was some head trauma I mean he was one of the greatest football players of all time I mean think about I mean if you made a list and I'm not a football fan but if I know you and you never got arrested and you never raped any you must be pretty

79:55awesome you know what I mean like if it wasn't some giant controversy where you're involved in like a Ray Rice type situation the murder or something like that if it wasn't that and I hear about you he was so good that the Cowboys traded him for a completely new football team that won three Super Bowls that's how good he was that's incredible that's incredible yeah that's incredible like it was crazy when they was going to trade her walker it's like you going to trade Hersh Walker but they got a brand new team and a set of young players that ended up being like their their franchise but he you know that's how good he was that they could get all those players yeah yeah it's it's always to me as someone who analyzes Athletics it's always so confusing and and and interesting when I see someone who's just so much better than everybody else right like how the is he so much better like what is

80:46it right can I this is this is a Saka thing I'm I'm going to tell you the soaka thing so so you have the NBA right and that's the the NBA is the Basketball League of America in England the top League the soccer version of NBA is called a premiership right Premiership Premiership yeah okay so there's this team named Lester now the Premiership Works different than the NBA the NBA all the teams stay the same every year in Saka the bottom three there's 20 teams in the league and the bottom three would go down if would go down to the league below at the end of the year like the if you have the least amount of points the the team three teams the least go down and there's a league below where the teams that first finish F first second and third come up so that's important because Leicester is a team last year that almost got relegated to the league below so they almost got relegated it was like

81:51everybody's like this team is going down to the lower division so they they won maybe five or six games in a row towards the end of the season and stayed up right but they're a lowbudget team they keep the same players and they had to fire their coach because his son did something and they got this other guy named cloudo rier an old Italian coach that used to coach in England with one of the top teams but he never won anything he only came second so then all year he's coaching Leicester and they're winning you know they're winning but at the beginning of every soccer season you always the lower teams always win a little and then there's the the the championship like stages of the Season like the the second part of season the third and like the final fourth where teams start slipping right but Leicester doesn't slip they start with and all the players are players from like castoff

82:43teams and teams players that no team ever wanted to buy and then so then they get into like the last seven eight games of the Season everybody's like they they're going to start Los and the team behind them spurs is going to catch them but these like they they gel together in a style that I've never seen before like they're very defensive and but they'll they'll attack you really they have these two forwards like if you kick the ball out to them they're fast and then they'll score and then they'll just shut the whole down like you ain't going nowhere it don't matter who the you are you are not going nowhere and on Thursday no on Monday this team 5,000 to1 won the premise ship W 5,000 to1 won the premise ship it is crazy all kinds of people had little bets that they won like 50,000 on 10 bucks or 10 pound or year whatever but it cost bookmakers $15 million whoa because like it's imp it's

83:47like the most impossible Sports story wow that's incredible I love hearing like that but you as you were talking I started getting discouraged ened cuz I was like I don't know about this soccer project seems this soccer project seems like it's going to cost me a lot of paying attention start at the top no you know what you do just just pick a team well I'm going to get your good team I want you to be my mentor I've sort of brought you into MMA brought you a bunch of fights I want you to you be my mentor and get me into soccer all right cuz it seems like if I'm going to follow some I should follow some the whole world follows right like what is like everybody loves the NFL in the United States and I'm sure it's awesome but I'm if I'm gonna follow I'm gonna try to follow soccer I'm gonna give it a shot right now Americans going crazy what the is Joe Rogan doing all this goddamn

84:32black lives matter all of a sudden he's following soccer soccer don't worry there's black lives matter in soccer too that some of these countries are racist as I'm sure they they they they they monkey chant to the black players monkey chance yeah there's a lot of fascist what do they do when they broadcast that they they bring it up they'll bring it up pel like the ref will stop the game or sometimes the players will stop the game they'll get those people out or they'll ban that team and the next time they have to play like a real game like imagine the Lakers playing San Antonio Spurs in an empty Stadium because they was RAC his chance the last time the game was played at the Lakers so they just say you have a black you have a blackout game where you none of the fans can come as punishment W they do like that oo I like that I like that idea blackout game yeah

85:24you well then but then people like yeah I made him black out the game I yelled up monkey he everybody doesn't learn no there's a lot of people that just want to flip over the board they don't want to actually play the game they want to flip over the board or get some type of attention from it liking it yeah well it's like we were talking about before with people don't feel like we're all the same they feel like those people over there playing that game those are just people man they're it's their dream to do this and they figured out how to do like you can't be angry at them you should be inspired it doesn't have anything to do with you right you know like just be don't be a but people also get so attached to one team versus the other that's another yeah that's another thing giant problem I like sports cuz it brings people together but then at that point it also

86:11separates people too much oh yeah people have there's riots regularly at games right I mean if you looked at all the games that are played between teams all over the world they they have respect now they fight in the town yeah outside the stadium and they throw bottles and from the bars and all that or in the town Fountain they fight over teams that's so dumb it's dumb it's dumb man it's it's hard to believe that that's like a common occurrence with football with soccer with baseball right there's always like fights in the parking lots with the Lakers I heard some terrible story about some guy who was wearing uh the wrong he was wearing the wrong basketball team shirt and he's with his son and these guys at the Lakers games beat the out of him koed him knocked him out his head bounced off the concrete was in a coma for weeks was there with his kid they just beat the out of him

87:02because he had the wrong shirt on that happened to a dude at the Dodgers game like a while ago when the mccort used to own the team maybe that's what I'm talking about is that what I'm talking about probably we're Raiders thing too and Raiders Raiders Raiders Raider fans might knock you out too why are Raider fans like why is that a thing because everybody was worried about if the Raiders came to Los Angeles that we would have a bunch of at the game that was a big issue it's just been their culture and everybody just identified with it and accepted it and said this is who we are is it because the rappers started taking on Raider hats and started wearing Raider hats in the ' 80s is that what was that what brought it around n the they were like that from I don't know like it it's like there's some teams in Italy that the fans are just fascists and then they

87:47that's that's some of the culture I it's it's hard to tell but the Raiders seem like they've been through they've gone through all the routes to have that type of fan base right you know what I mean from coming up in Oakland so even when they moved to LA and rappers started joining them and then now they're back in Oakland it's like I don't know it's just it's just to had the right temperature for for ignorance amongst some of their fans you I think there's something going on with people too where we want to be United by a common cause even if that common cause is terrible I think I think that's one of the things that's going on with Trump like like when I see some of these people that are like Trump supporters I'm like are you really or are you just in a gang because it seems like a lot of them are in a gang like they're wearing sunglasses they're being dicks they're

88:35walking they're they're honking at these people that have Bernie Sanders signs have you seen this in I forget what city it was in uh where Bernie Sanders wound up winning and Trump was but was the big one that he won recently was Indiana Indiana so he's driving by and these uh Mexican Americans are on one side of the Road and they're screaming at this guy who's in a a Donald Trump supporting truck and they're screaming and hurling you know insults back and forth at each other and I'm watching this I'm going what what are we seeing here like are we seeing gangs form cuz it seems like they're not really talking about Trump's policies they're not talking about his credentials they're not talking about his his ability to lead and the way he carries himself it's almost like he's their guy like they decide this is my guy and they don't want to change their mind this is the

89:24guy for douchebags and then you know it's it's it's Discerning to people it's concerning because it makes you think like there's so many of us there so many of us that when something can unite us even if it can unite us in a bad way like the Heaven's Gate cult where they all cut their dicks off and wear purple sneakers on a lot of them did they got they got castrated themselves yeah oh I didn't know that part yeah it was part of what that guy wanted people to do and he had well he was gay he didn't like being gay and he was trying to like free himself from sexuality but at least one or two of his other like big people in that group also castrated themselves they couldn't just do the thumb like the Yakuza does what's wrong with it I think they do pinkies right pinkies yeah they do a joint at a time whenever you up it's a joint at a time chunk do you

90:11remember that uh Trump painting I showed you a few weeks ago we that someone painted with like a small dick the girl who painted it got attacked by some Trump supporters and like they punched her in the face and yelled Trump 2016 and ran punched her in the face claiming I mean I don't know if it was on tape or anything but well you don't oh my God oh my God it happened here in La sh they found her where she lived based off of some Facebook information and oh my found her when she came outside Jesus Christ that's what she's claiming though too I mean it could be it might not be true but it I would I don't know I want to say even it probably is but it's hard to tell and it's unfortunate that you even have to say that but she does have tattoos on her face you know I mean who know knows um I would like to believe I would be more happy if she made it up but ultimately

91:01you got to kind of have to believe someone like that that's sad cuz that was a cool painting they shouldn't be so angry why would they be so angry if Trump was cool he'd buy that yeah look you know like your Mormon joke yeah exactly did you see the recent thing that he has on on his on his Twitter I I retweeted it yesterday I was like he's eating taco bowl yeah I saw that I love Mexicans I know Hispanics Hispanic he's out of his mind like this is madness he do care he's flaunting it it's almost like he's reaching out and tuning into the frequency of those those kind of guys like these and they're out there the thing is I'm not opposed to someone like him trying it out at happy single demile best taco bowls are made in Trump Tower Grill I love Hispanics yeah like what the I love Hispanics and he's got that evil old school the man look and someone pointed out if you click on the the

91:58picture itself that there's a photo of his ex-wife Mara Maples in a bikini in the lower corner of a magazine he's eating his lunch on like I wonder if he just eats like he has the news clippings of his his victims and he piles it on his desk and that's how he eats why else would he be eating on top of a pile of papers those are trophies like he's a Trophy Hunter instead of it's probably all people he's burned in business deals and over and you know smashed in competition well it's like his favorite stories of people he's crushed crush your enemies have them driven before you and hear the laminations of the women that's what he's doing he's he's eating dinner on a pile of skulls they're just print with his bent thumbs up with his um American lapel pin American flag lapel pen it's kind of hilarious I'm so torn because as a person who thinks that the system that we have is so absurd

93:00and it needs to change this is one of the best ways to get it change yeah this is that this is proof that you're right about that you know yeah well it just shows you like you can't have a popularity contest to run the government it should be more than that it shouldn't be this easy and it shouldn't be an electoral college and delegates shouldn't be able to decide who they're going to vote for despite what the state votes for there shouldn't be super delegates all this is craziness we have an Antiquated nonsensical system that was developed back when people wrote with feathers well you have to really think about that and for whatever dumbass reason we continue to use the same thing and anytime anybody talks about reforming it or changing it or updating it or coming out with new models everybody freaks the out like it's some sacred scroll that Jesus wrote we found a clay we

93:48updated everything why can't we update this it's stupid as and the only reason why it's in place at all like electoral college and representative government is because you couldn't talk directly to the leaders you couldn't talk directly to the government it was too hard but we have all these new Tools in place and the idea that we're not using them like we're not using the internet we're not using social media we're not using our instantaneous ability to communicate with each other to find out what we actually want right as as a collective group MH be the fact that that's and also we should agree there should be like parameters where things can't get passed there should be like parameters where we all agree okay we cannot set aside any rules or or create any laws that intentionally victimize certain segments of the population we all agree on that defit

94:36yeah like we make a new constitution type thing we all agree on that everyone agrees on that right right so when anything comes up when anything comes up whether it's about gay marriage or whether it's about whatever it is you look at that and you go okay is this a law that would victimize intentionally certain aspects of our population so we can't do it especially if they're not doing anything to anybody else we should have like rules like that like we could update and make a real simple new Constitution that would be way better and we'd keep most of the in the original most of the ideas of freedom of speech but update it to to represent what we're dealing with today because what free speech is today is very different than standing on a box and yelling into a courtyard without a microphone cuz that's what people were doing writing something down and not

95:23being worried about being killed for it we all agree on that kind of stuff but we should figure out like how what what are these how many of these laws are good how many of these laws make any sense how many of those laws are just we just have because they've been around forever and no one examines them yeah you just have some really smart people making some really bad laws on purpose like like when you talking about laws that doesn't affect a certain segment not making laws that affect a certain segment of the society like the ones that we have now that exist that do that does hurt segments of society were done on purpose but they're just done so slickly yeah it it's just it's just tough to get there's just some bad people in the wrong places right now yeah well there's just too much money involved in making decisions right that's the big issue the big issue is

96:16there's all these gigantic groups of people with immense amounts of money and they can gain more money by influence people's decision making that are in judgment or that are in positions of power and that's our real problem our real problem is these giant groups of people call them whatever you want call them corporations call them you know whatever call them the banks call them whatever it is they they have the ability to influence the decision- making of the people that are in power and whether it's through fear intimidation manipulation or straight up bribing there's a system that's in place it's very difficult to Buck that's why I find it intriguing if Donald Trump gets in I don't find it intriguing because I like what he's saying and that I like this crazy character that he's doing what I find intriguing is it doesn't seem to matter who the president

97:05is in any way other than socially like socially it seems to matter like I think one of the best things about having Obama in office was that he was a guy who was pretty liberal on most things as opposed to like the eight years we had to deal with like scary conservative Bush and Donald Rumsfeld and John Ashcroft they were scary people like John Ashcraft covered the breasts of a statue um was it in the white house no not the White House was it at the Pentagon no what I forget what statue it was but they put a drape over the breasts of a of a statue that had been exposed forever right Ashcraft was a guy who went after Tommy Chong and uh because Tommy Chong's son was selling bongs and so he went after Tommy Chong saying that if you don't go to jail I'm going to put your whole family in jail so Tommy Chong had a w up going that was all Ashcraft they like operation Nice

98:00Dreams is what they were doing it was a sting operation justice department covers partially nuded statues because of Ashcraft he was a scary scary guy and these are this is an example of the people wrong people in the in the places where they shouldn't be because they're they're out of control well it also heightened um our suspicions of uh conspiracy theories and Hysteria in this country because we saw like really dangerous people that were running the show right like a guy like him is dangerous a guy like Rumsfeld who pushed um aspartame like that's how Aspartame is legal it all came out of Rumsfeld like he's he was one of those directly responsible for making aspartame illegal and avoiding all the information that pointed to the fact that it's probably like super bad for you mhm it's just up that we didn't do anything about it no we just like rode it out well we had to I

98:50mean what we didn't know what we even could do then it would be really interesting to see what would happen if the Bush Administration was uh in office today with the current ability to communicate about things because that's where it's really crazy from 2000 to 2016 is a different world it's a different world and towards the end of the Bush Administration became more and more Preposterous where people were like what in the is going on to the point where they went out stealing money remember when they went out and gas prices went up to like five bucks a gallon and everybody's like what the is going on it just felt like they went out stealing money they just like look before Obama comes in office we're just going to suck as much money out of this as we can let's just go hard you know just ridiculous my question is what is money it's a good question you know what is money and then

99:39and then the money that we lost during the recession it wasn't burnt in a fire it wasn't like like that money went somewhere so where the is that money that they had to get more money to replace that money like somebody has that money and spending that money so it's not like it went to a vacuum and it'll never come back like so it's just so they never teach you in school so you don't know you don't think about it but where the well it's Voodoo it's agreed upon Voodoo yeah it's agreed upon Voodoo I mean that's really what it is we have all the same amount of stuff right we have the same amount of minerals we have the same amount of raw materials we have the same amount of people we have the same amount of land we have all the same stuff but somehow there's no money right whereas 2 months ago everybody was rolling in D right that's a sign of someone you he

100:29like man I don't know what happened we lost all the Goddamn money it's crazy well hey y'all take care and we're real sorry it worked out this way we got to get going the recession was one of the craziest things like they was like they came on the news say we're broke all the money's gone and everybody just started acting broke yeah everybody was just like broke and laying off people hey we broke y'all yeah and it's like and then they said it's things are getting better yeah I feel it getting better feel that feel that it's getting better I saw something that said that the 150,000 jobs were added to the economy but unemployment stayed the same the same rate but they added 150,000 jobs like what is the rate based on and then someone else told me that the rate is not based on people stop looking the rate is only based on people who claim unemployment employment yeah like

101:16there's way more unemployment than that it's just people aren't looking meanwhile easiest time to live ever everybody bitching about like it's just you could take some dude from the depression and put him in America today and' be like what the are you complaining about no soup lines no one starving it look how big everybody is they would be like everybody in their depression days they we like 110 lbs hilarious dudes were tiny they'd be like seeing all these giant people with McDonald's falling out of their pockets like look all the food these people La all you got to do is wait by a garbage can yeah poor people are fat today you know how crazy that is true right true I mean back then you were starving you were terrified yeah people people like legitimately were worried about not having something to eat right I read this book um about this guy named Danny mcgury Danny mcti is

102:10like a a famous Depression era pool Hustler who traveled across the country during like the darkest days of the depression and would hustle from town to town and gamble with guys and make money like barely get by but was like alcoholic and just wrote wrote a bunch of crazy stories about all his times but there was times where he's begging people for food like he was starving he just showed up at someone's house and was begging him for food and the guy comes out and gives him a bowl of sausages and and just you realized like there there were times in this country and by the way back then no one was telling them everything was going to be okay there was no Oprah on TV there was no positive thinking you know there was no mind coaches you know on Late Night info commercial I'm going to give you the tools to achieve your greatness there was none of that they were just

102:58almost animalistic traveling around in box cars and this uh this book was really intense man because this guy was talking like kind of with Shame about how he had broken down a couple of times and was just asking people for food you know it's like I he goes I didn't have any other options I had to beg people for food and you realize like yeah that's that's a different time than today right cuz people are just out there doing that well you know there's way more charity today than ever before but I think also we understand that a lot of the people that we're seeing that are out on the street corners and you know begging they have mental problems yeah I mean I'm sure they did back then too right but I think back then there were probably more people who were like legitimately broke yeah and and didn't have the information didn't understand like where are all the jobs where's

103:49going what's what's the economy what is that you can't Google it you like so if you were a 35-year-old man who's essentially illiterate and you were a laborer your whole life and then all a sudden the jobs dried up you had no grasp of why or how to fix it or who was going to change it so any politician who stood up and started yelling things about immigrants or about I mean that's essentially what happened to Hitler Hitler Rose to power because Germany was in a bad economic place and this guy came along and said these are ruining it for us and everybody was like seek just blame the yeah they they all just jump on yeah he was so charismatic too that's another scary thing about a guy that's really charismatic that can unite people for a cause even if it's a bad one you know what's crazy about I went to a what do they call it like a Opera what's the thing when they have the conductor yeah

104:39it's Opera right opera music Symphony yeah Symphony and uh the thing when they have a conductor well the Opera is when they sing oper so yeah the the yeah I'm I'm hot box Orchestra Orest I'm hot boxed I don't even know if I'm saying that right hot boxing's real hot boxing is real y'all just a lot of people don't believe it and I was uh watching the conductor and uh there's a lot of Jewish people there and you know the conductor doing this and if you turn off the music it looks like you're watching Hitler really yeah because the conductor has the same motions as Hitler you know at a at an opera like the way he's directing a band someone should make a split screen yeah yeah yeah Hitler was real animated right yeah he's really animated and moving his arm isn't it interesting when you stop and think about that is that we don't like that from a president we don't like

105:34it and it's one of the things that sank Howard Dean said Howard Dean got caught screaming remember that mhm we're going house yeah and it was over it was over over a bad thing yeah we don't want anyone yelling we don't want anyone is when you see Hitler in those speeches that Dynamic way of talking that scares the out of everybody today that was that was good for back then you could you could reach people back then cuz people he's like expressing the anger that everybody was feeling well in a way that's where people have a legitimate beef with how Trump is behaving because although it might be effective in getting people to pay attention to him it's very dangerous in the doors it opens up as far as like getting people to unite like like the he said I was on the phone with the president to Mexico and he said who you think is going to pay for that wall and I said you're going to pay for it

106:28we're not going to pay for it oh yes you are and the fence just got 10 feet taller and the whole audience cheers like that's like a I'm paraphrasing up his speech but the the the idea that he would you like yell that out the fence just got taller so you're going to make a fence taller than it needs to be right so that you spite this person like is this is this a normal behavior pattern for a leader of the greatest army the world has ever known right that seems crazy Plus in a in a especially in a world where where Mexicans who smuggle stuff across the border build tunnels yeah including they smug smuggle people through on the tunnels so good luck building your wall yeah your wall will never affect anything yeah what they don't go over they don't go over they they have all these secret tunnels like every every documentry or even Saro you know you know the it's just all tunnels is it and

107:22apparently that's real too yeah and your president is like talking about building a wall he it sounds dumb as your your president to be how are you going to find all those tunnels yeah do you know how much square miles you're dealing with and how deep they go in especially when you look at like the guys got out El Chapo they went a mile in yeah a mile underr for a mile everything is underr everything's underground like like while the construction noise that you're making to build a wall helps them to dig tunnels yeah the time the at the same time you're just smothering the sound it's so stupid they're like the best tunnel Builders ever yeah if you really think about it best tunnel builders in the game who's built more secret tunnels than Mexican drug dealers nobody man is this El chapos tunnel I was looking at that but I just typed in just generic tunnel for

108:13there's a lot of them drug tunnels yeah there's a ton of them man they just keep digging them but it's it's so fascinating that there's this border we have this line and if you could dig a hole and pop out on the other side you could sell drugs pop out on the other side it's hilarious but it's so weird like what a weird thing that we've done we've made lines on the ground of the earth you can't and there no difference between the people on either side other than the fact that they speak different languages but they're just people and there's a lot of each people on the other side my parents live in Mexico man oh yeah yeah oh yeah I you tell me lot SK live in America you know a lot of my friends are from me I know a lot of people from Mexico a lot like I know I probably know 20 or 30 people who were born in Mexico so we integrated right obviously there's no difference

109:05between us other than culture and language right but we still have this crazy line like you can't come over and you guys are you're listen listen listen listen I'm you were born into Duo worse system than us we can't lay over here I know you want to get better but off you no if you get better over on this side if you're born in Phoenix oh you missed it by a mile see if you landed in Phoenix if you came out of your mother's in Phoenix You're Gold dude then you get Medicare and all that good you're in the Obamacare but if you're born a mile the other way fuv yeah what that's so crazy that doesn't make like logically I understand there's a limited amount of resources I understand there's got to be some pragmatic decisions it's very unfortunate but what we really have to do is help Mexico get back on their feet but really what it should be is there should be no Mexico there should be no

109:56United States there should be no Canada there should be the planet earth right that's really what it should be right like these ideas are stupid they're like soccer clubs they're like little soccer clubs those things make sense they make more sense but I'm no but I'm a th% WID like it's all there's enough resources in the world if everybody shares them white right for everything to be fine well both you and I are a direct result of immigration my parents were the first generation they came from or they were born in America but their parents my grandparents is that how it works was first I'm third generation right because my parents were second generation cuz my grandparents were first generation Americans when they moved to America they they weren't born America how's it work my par born here is the first gener first generation so I'm second generation so I'm second generation so

110:46just two generations ago you know I'm all of my family came Italy and Ireland all of them everyone my grandfather on my father's side came from Ireland my father uh or my grandmother on my father's side Came From Italy my grandmother and my grandfather and my mother's side Came From Italy everybody came from another country all during the same time period so they were all like immigrants they came over here and this is the this is why in the United States is so interesting because there's so many different kinds of people here right but there's just too many of us and it's too awesome this experiment was too badass so hilarious in Mexico I don't know what happened in Mexico I don't know what went wrong they got cut off is that what it is I don't know people don't want to share man people just want mine yeah mine all mine I wonder how much of what Mexico is right now is a

111:36direct result of the Spanish invasions like I wonder when something happens like during like the Aztec days and there's some crazy takeover and the Spanish language gets introduced to to uh Central America and and and even North America I mean most of C California what we call California used to be Mexico so I wonder like what impact that had because when you find out the atrocities that were committed with with the uh the Aztecs and the um the Invaders and the the introduction of horsebacks I mean people riding horseback that was all during Cortez right and the people before him was all the Europeans that had brought over horses just think about all that chaos that happened there they changed the language of the country I mean the big Maj insane Mexico was essentially Native Americans right that's why like the Mayans they really resemble like a lot of Native Americans what we what we

112:35think of as Native Americans and when you look at there's like a a bunch of different styles of Mexican like the their appearance right you've got like your Canelo Alvarez you've got like who's real he's a outlier he's a rare one but you've got like Oscar De La Hoya who's that like handsome Spaniard version of Mexico right right and then you got like real Brown looking dudes that look like Native Americans that are also Mexican that are like really dark and you go well that guy looks like a American Indian well we consider a Native American because there like that's what it is it's they were introduced like the the Spanish language and all these different people from Europe interbred with all the people that are here and they created what is Mexico that's an hilarious picture because it's like who drew that like they didn't even look like that like those those are hot Instagram trick

113:28chicks drawn like who drew version of that those supposed some of them are supposed to be men oh for real yeah they're just covering their dicks some of them are supposed to be men see that one's got his uh P they transgender what's going on in this photo I think these people like Native Americans used to keep their hair long I mean that's what it's depicting you know when you think of Native Americans and you think of like cowboys versus Indians they all have long hair right well I think that that's what these people were encountering back then and I mean it was a genocide man I mean it was essentially just a slaughterfest they killed so many people they stole gold they came over on Horseback they were considered gods nobody knew what it was to ride a horse they never imagine a guy comes over for the first time they they land in a boat they get off the boat and they

114:19have horses and swords and they start chopping everybody y do you think that was they probably had horses right and had seen horses or maybe not no no they didn't they did not have hes horses were introduced horses were introduced to North American by the European there was by the Europeans there was horses in North America millions of years ago but they went extinct I'm pretty sure I'm almost positive of this that there was a type of horse that lived like in the plyto scene or something like that and they went they went extinct but when yeah find that out that's an interesting when is when were horses first introduced to North America but horses being wild like wild horses is uh a relatively recent phenomenon like over the last few hundred years America came with Columbus in 1493 there you go his second voice Voyage to America Spanish horses representing e

115:13calbal cabal cabales cabal were brought back to North America First in the Virgin Islands and in 1519 they were reintroduced to the con on the the continent in modern day Mexico uh from where they radiated through the American Great Plains hm yeah see man see I feel bad for the horses just being on the boat that long yeah no right I wonder how many of them survived yeah it's a long ass trip I wonder how they did that because that was months and months at see you had to have the right amount of food people getting scurvy and I bet it's probably easier to bring hay than it is to bring anything you know when you think about it hey you can stack it up nice and dense yeah but horses eat a lot of hey yeah and and like you have to clean up after them and they're on a boat restricted like that makes the boat trip even worse than I imagined it in the first place yeah

116:00because hes on board they're going to get off the boat and they haven't run or walked at all in months their legs are going to be all up yeah I was just thinking I was looking for a not a picture but a representation of it cuz there in Columbus where I'm from there's a they have a replica of the Santa Maria which is one of those boats it's not very big at all maybe 20 or 30 people could like comfortably be on it for a long period of time so if I don't know where the hell you would put animals too where is it just on the river whoa like in right in Downtown Columbus how big is it like if you had a guess pretty big uh how many feet long 60 50 60 that's it I I I I'm trying to guess in my head that's 20 yards it it's not that big I pull a picture of it that's insane that's 20 yards that's crazy that's like what you shoot when you're practicing with a bow to tune it

116:47in that's before you start backing up those little things change the world wow so much like the scale of those things to how much they change the world is crazy that's nothing that's nothing big do you think that is that's nothing that's small as dude that's so interesting Ian the way you just explained that that's such a that's like a nuclear three of those three of those a man boy you just nailed it you just nailed it those things changed the world three of those things CH I mean changed everything those three were like the seed that planted North America yeah they came over here and explosion and it became the Empire State Building and Seattle Tower what's that Tower needle Space Needle yeah Space Needle brought lots of murder diseases murder lots of diseases genocide rape yeah all sorts of groovy it's crazy it's crazy when you think and iPhones and well eventually eventually turns

117:46into iPhones yeah I wonder if iPhones would have existed if we just stayed in Europe probably not see that's what I think when of the things that I think is really important about like having an as a president for a brief brief rest fite when we have a chance to rethink this whole thing is I think I think we have to get outraged before things change and we have to realize that the system is just maybe he does too maybe look let's let's give him the benefit of the doubt right you're talking about a guy who's obviously incredibly wealthy and obviously incredibly successful right maybe he is sick of it all himself maybe he's one of the guys who's actually contributed I mean look he that guy paid Hillary to come to his wedding okay hundreds of thousands of dollars it's all it took and she showed up I mean this is a guy that's been deep deep deep in the system handing out money to

118:33these and then finally he went you he went you I'm going to run this thing right and they're like there's no way there's no way Donald Trump we've looked at the numbers impossible everybody else has dropped out they've all given up I mean Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are neck and neck right except for in delegates where she's uh quite a bit above him but she still doesn't have enough to win like it's close enough to it's like it's weird it's it's like weirdly close where you have to look at it people Bernie doesn't stand a chance uh mathematically he's already eliminated but then people say well what if Hillary gets indicted for one of the two criminal investigations she's currently involved with he just sticks around what what if people find out about this email thing that it's even worse than we thought what if people find out this what if they find out that what if

119:18there's some dirt what if there's some this it's it's exhausting it's exhausting but meanwhile this Trump guy is sitting pretty just waiting for whoever gets most beat up MH by this campaign on the Democratic side they're beating the out of each other so they're going to come through it whoever's going to come through is going to be all up it's gonna have it's like having a uh MMA tournament one guy wins by a quick knockout in the first round the other gu goes through a three- round War Trump just ran through someone Anderson Silva style MH and so now so now like Hillary and Bernie Sanders are like Mickey Warden at turo Gotti just beating the out of each other and we have to wait to see who emerges what a Str strange strange time it's crazy man I like like you said it and I've been thinking it you said it last week I think when we was at the show about

120:12you're more afraid of Cruz than than he scares out of me and I'm glad he's out yeah I'm glad he's out he would have been the worst choice and Trump I feeling if he could fool people and do this just to win that he might actually just be doing it just to win become a different person Our Hope but that's our hope but if he did become a different person I wouldn't even be surprised cuz it's it's kind of almost typical him right you know what I mean yeah I don't know man I don't have any interaction with him but I do know that Jeff Ross worked with him on the roast and he said he was very nice and very reasonable and one of the things that Jeff Ross said is hey when when the camera turned to you and you're not laughing it kind of looks bad like you should just enjoy it like don't be upset that these guys are making fun of you just laugh along it'll be great for you and he said Trump

121:01thought about it he goes you know what you're right you're right like he's not an all the time like it's a character that is definitely their character it's like a wrestling character WWE style exactly it's a WWE character I just I don't know him you know I don't buy any of this I don't buy Brian Crest I don't know that guy I don't know Donald Trump I mean I would like to get high with Ryan C and find out what's really going on in there I don't know you should tell him to come on well what you see look at it what's what's in his hand a cell phone was oh he's going to shave his hair is that what it is a shaver look at Vince McMahon it's hilarious as if as if somebody's going to be like I've seen they shaved Vince McMahon's head oh that's Vince McMahon's face was more fearful than somebody about to get beheaded by ISIS is that Bobby Lashley that's Bobby Lashley right

121:49Bobby Lashley is um fighting M ma now he he has to fight in like these weird Indian casinos so they don't test him oh that's hilarious uh so there's a rumor going around Joe uh I saw something the other day that uh Floyd Mayweather's team has been trademarking like Floyd 50 or something like that saying that like he might be coming out of retirement right I heard about this this rumor hit today that his potential opponent might be Conor McGregor oh my God and a box match at T-Mobile arena in Vegas oh my god um I think Conor McGregor is a very good MMA fighter and I think if Conor McGregor and Floyd May rather fight in MMA Conor McGregor will him up he will him up Floyd will get the kicked out of him he will kick his body senseless he will kick his legs Floyd will be de debilitated inside a one round 100% And if Connor decides to take him to the ground I guarant

122:51guarantee you Floyd Mayweather can Conor's no world class wrestler he's no NCAA Champion he's no Olympic gold medalist guarantee you Floyd Mayweather Cann not stop him from taking him to the ground and if Connor gets him to the ground he's going to mount him and Cave his face in or choke him or break his arm or do whatever he wants to do but in a boxing match I can't imagine a world where Floyd Mayweather doesn't him up in a boxing match I think Floyd Mayweather is arguably the greatest boxer of all time if you look at his accomplishments who he's been able to beat how he shuts everyone's offense down he's a more boring version of what a lot of Bernard Hopkins does and he does it in a more slick skillful way with rapid reflexes and he relies on speed and movement and a just a deep deep deep understanding of boxing he's just so much better and if people don't

123:46know if you think you're really good and then you get in there and you box a guy like that he will expose the out of you he will expose the out of you it's just it's a different Animal Man I mean who knows man look one of the things we know about Connor is he has ridiculous belief in himself and he has unbelievable power one of the things we know about Floyd is he's 39 I think yeah yeah is that old is yeah that's what I was seeing on here yeah so when a guy turns 39 you never know I mean there's for every guy like Bernard Hopkins there's a bunch of guys who the wheels just fall off and all of a sudden they can't take a punch anymore and they can't fight anymore they don't move good anymore more but I can't imagine a world where he's not light years past Conor with boxing skill I just is there another I think these guys are thinking about money oh yeah more than more than

124:32like a result the money will be Giant and they probably and they probably figure out a way where both of them don't lose or something like that I don't think they're going to do that I think they're going to really fight I don't I don't I can't imagine that either one of them would be willing to negotiate with the other one while thinking that they might get double crossed you know like nah don't buy that because remember with Victor Ortiz and Mayweather when Victor Ortiz was doing some dirty to Mayweather and Victor Ortiz apologized and Floyd Mayweather just stepped to him and sucker punched him in the face and koed him do you remember that watch this here pull pull that up because it's kind of hilarious cuz like there's no deals being made not in this world this is a world of competitive yeah I'm only saying that because an MMA guy watch this Victor

125:19Ortiz gets warned because he kept like headbutting and like getting really dirty and so he goes to touch hands look at this boom bang he goes to touch hands like yo I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry Bing Bang I mean it's hilarious it's hilarious that's the real world of boxing Mayweather just knocked him the out he just he thought they were G to like touch gloves and be buddies and then get back after it and Mayweather's like pop he hit him with a left hook that he never saw coming straight right hand that's a WAP and I just think that the skill level in straight boxing that Floyd Mayweather has it's very difficult to understand why you're just looking look he's touching him here look at this Bing he even had a look on his face or is looking at the ref his face he's like he even he's like he even said bang damn yeah look at this Bank chin hey what is he doing boom that's a

126:17WAP and that was a WAP for Victor Ortiz's career really potentially is there is there another fight to bring Floyd out of retirement that he's on right now sure Pacquiao Pacquiao is the big fight especially since Pacquiao just beat Timothy Bradley if Pacquiao um decided to you know really ramp it up I think he still can get a lot of people excited about him you know he had a shoulder injury he had a shoulder repaired but obviously it was great in the Bradley fight he looked awesome in the Bradley fight he's a beast I think that could be a real fight but I also think that Floyd Mayweather versus Conor would generate insane amounts of money insane be fun to watch the 24/7 they would make it be great TV who knows man who knows I don't think so though I don't think he can I I would imagine unless the UFC is involved they'd have to let him out a contract some right pay to get him out and I

127:06don't I can't imagine that they would be willing to do that and I can't imagine that they would let him fight Floyd Mayweather like Dana and Lorenzo and Frank are serious boxing Fanatics they know a lot about boxing could there be a cross promotion oh man in some way like have the fight on if everybody can get a piece look it could could happen but I wouldn't throw a fighter to the lions like that like I just I just don't look I could be wrong I'm I'm no Clairvoyant I don't really know what's going to happen in a fight but I think Mayweather is a ghost I think you go to punch where Mayweather is and Mayweather's not there anymore and he's popping you with Jabs and slowly getting you frustrated and setting traps and the next thing you know he's uncorking shots on you who knows but who knows maybe Conor McGregor if he went to straight boxing would be even more

127:56successful than he is as an MMA fighter because his best knockouts were with punches I mean his left hand is a piston he has a nasty left hand he a lot of guys up but is he guys up that are just not at the level of boxing as say a Timothy Bradley or uh maid or you know Juan Manel Marquez the guys who he is though and and and they're distract by training for other types of things like for the ground game for Mu Tha and it's like it's it's it's if uh Mayweather's just focus on hands yes you know exactly and he's a master at it yeah like a straightup master in an MMA fight it wouldn't even be close right it would not even be close Connor would kick his body apart before Mayweather even got close to him right but I think his understanding of the distance there's no way May Mayweather would understand the distance mhm Conor would hit him with spinning back kicks to the body

128:53Mayweather would crumble Connor would knee him in the body in the clinch it would be awful he would kill him he would kill him in an MMA fight he's much bigger too like Conor really struggles to get down to 145 he's a big you know so I I just think in an MMA fight it would be disastrous for Mayweather but it could be equally disastrous in a boxing fight for Conor away yeah the only thing that makes me think that maybe Connor could survive is he's a super dangerous puncher just like midna was or midna is though even though Maidana is a world class boxer myonna is the guy who beat uh Adrien Broner ma Donna's a serious vicious power puncher and he's real aggressive and wild makes me think like maybe like if if he if Connor went straight into boxing maybe he could have been a world class boxer maybe he could have been you know some some real Ricky Hatton type

129:41Challenger entirely possible Right But even Ricky Hatton got up by Mayweather man when Ricky Hatton was Ricky Hatton when he was in his prime I don't think Ricky Hatton should have quit after that fight hey man he like to do blow yeah wanted to get fat was having a party get fat and do blow well he uh he did have one comeback fight and just didn't like how he performed and I think he actually wed up winning but he decided that it was over that he had lost it I think um got a beat out of him it could be that but it also could be well Pacquiao really him up Pacquiao hurt him bad when Pacquiao knocked him out he knocked him dead Mayweather him up but when Pacquiao him up it was like whoa that was a bad knock out Manny's got those gigantic tree trunk legs those spring he's got a calf his calf muscles are like 4x4 Springs he just he just jumps at you and uncorks left hands on

130:34your chin and when he did that to Ricky Hatton he just went asleep yeah that's like the second like British like hope that that happened to like it was cleaning up in Europe and then they came out here remember Prince nazim Muhammad Hamed yeah yeah and he came n Med got exposed by um is his name uh the guy who is in a a series of wars with uh it wasn't perno whito was it no no no no no it was a Mexican gentleman Marcos Barrera oh okay Barrera maros Antonio Barrera yeah yeah that's who it was and uh he exposed him he he showed that fundamental boxing at the highest level is going to beat that crazy jumping in Wild like that wild didn't work on the top level guy and so he got kind of exposed in that fight but you know what man boxing is so it's so specialized and the guys that are really good the the really really good guys it's they're underrated how good they are like as a person who's

131:37watching it from the outside you don't understand how good a guy like Mayweather is I think unless you're there with him while he's doing his stuff right like I bet if a guy's boxing him I bet that's when you get a real understanding of how good he is and he's disciplined too he's more disciplined than he acts on the outside like like uh when I used to hang out with Kevin Hart a little bit he used to hang out with Mayweather and said they be partying in the middle of the party I got to go and it's like 3 in the morning I got to go do road work yeah and they just go run yeah and bring the car and them running runs in jeans yeah just says the just follow me and he goes running yeah well he's in tremendous shape always but apparently now he's uh he's a little heavy um who knows man I mean if enough money gets thrown the UFC Direction the UFC might look at it this way here's a

132:23here's a pragmatic way of looking at it we can still make a lot of money with Conor McGregor right still make a lot of money with Conor McGregor in an MMA fight we could still make a lot of money if Conor rematches Nate Diaz which uh I hear they're trying to make happen as well that's what the rumors has been but is he gonna beat the best guys in the world now after Nate Diaz boxed him up and and choked him out like are is that going to happen again and if that does happen again how much will that deflate his value on the open market if you're playing a game of chess not looking at terms of a guy's career as an MMA fighter but looking at it as a game of financial chess how do you move your peace you might say look the amount of money that you can make with a Mayweather fight is off the charts right right off the charts so you're talking about like a 3

133:09million pay-per-view buy or something crazy so you do that you move that up and you you take that chance and he gets boxed up by Mayweather and uh maybe he survives if he survives and loses a decision and he goes back and he says uh all respect to Mayweather you know I'm back to MMA you know just I didn't understand his hands now it's it's a learning experience you know and he has this great press conference if he can survive he's not diminished too much and Mayweather is not like a murderous puncher he's not like a Canelo Alvarez or G genardi Golovkin like Golovkin is a bad fight for him someone like that's a bad fight for him a murderous puncher cuz most likely they're going to take him out but Mayweather it's very possible he's going to get to the decision and at 39 is perfect age it's good AG I look if I was in his corner I would say look this can be done this can

133:56be done and it feels like McGregor wants to get paid cuz he qu threatened to quit because he wanted to get paid more money right no no he really didn't threaten to quit what he didn't want to do is he didn't want to do any of the press conferences so he he made a he called the UFC's Bluff he said you're not going to remove me from the card I'm Conor McGregor I call the shots and the UFC is like okay well we're going to cancel your fight so take care and you know they they had like a long break where they weren't even talking back and forth to each other and Dana's like nope I haven't talked to him he's not off he's not on the fight anymore he wasn't at the press conference we're just going to move on with UFC 200 and you know UFC 200 is about the sport in their eyes it's all about sport the it's well it's also it's an honor to be on that card it's a historical card just like UFC 100

134:41was a historical card UFC 200 is an absolutely historical card and one guy can't hold it up it doesn't matter if you're Conor McGregor or bronda Rousey or it doesn't matter what kind of a Superstar you are you can't hold up the UFC 200 card and you have to do the Press so that was their position they took a stand and so now he's in this position where he's got to figure out what the he's going to do he's going to fight mewe it if that I don't know he can he I believe he would need the UFC's blessing I don't see another I don't see a world I can't imagine a world in which he doesn't need the UFC's blessing what's Rousey's plan what's she doing now you'd have to talk to her um I think the the type of champion that she was as good as she was as much as she dominated um I can't imagine she's not going to do it again I can't imagine that one fight will set her back that

135:26much but she also has massive amounts of distractions she has a huge career in movies she's doing giant movies she's wanted for commercials and this and that she's got a book oh yeah man she's a superstar she's a superstar but does it haunt her that a girl that she beat twice Mesa Tate has the belt he the champion right now and was talking about her yesterday right here oh look um I think I think Ronda obviously had a bad fight with Holly Holm Holly Holm obviously had a great fight with Ronda and I think Holly Holm has a great style for Ronda if Ronda fights that way but if Rhonda doesn't fight that way if she fights the way that Misha fought she stays on the outside and she fights a little more strategic and she uses more movement and she incorporates a bunch of different types of takedowns ronda's a champion she's an elite athlete and she's one of

136:22the best expressions of Judo we've ever seen in all of MMA her Judo is spectacular if she focuses on that aspect on the grappling aspect the Judo aspect takedowns more than trying to outstand up Holly home which it looked like she did in the first fight but in her defense she said she got rocked by a big punch early in the first fight so it's very difficult to say how much that that had an effect on her CU she did get cracked by Holly like early in the so she could have been out of it and not able to stick to her game plan whatever it might have been it's entirely possible when you get cracked like that everything goes out the window you never know the only only person knows is the person who got hit you know because if we see it like Aldo when Aldo fought McGregor he just got knocked out is obvious we saw in front of us his body stopped working but Ronda could have got

137:12real close to that and we didn't even see it right she could have bang she dropped one in on her and Ronda could have been just out of it like drunk not knowing what she's doing like literally looking at life through like a hole in a shoe box that is entire entirely possible so if they fight again and Ronda manages to not get hit like that she fights a little bit more strategic I could see Ronda absolutely making a go at the title again absolutely absolutely being a champion again she's one of the best in the world no doubt about it but it's a matter of what does she want what does she want to do with her time what does she want to dedicate herself the way she dedicated herself when she was tearing up the division it's it's a very difficult thing to maintain and especially difficult when you have the massive amount of distractions that she has so much Hollywood in her life so

138:01much Hollywood and money so much money which what you you know you want to take care of your life and you got that I think she that's the thing too I also think she's taken care of man I mean Rond has got to be worth millions of dollars I mean if she just lives fairly frugally and she does she's good I mean she's not buying gold underwear or anything like that you know what I'm saying she's she's pretty set if she wants to just be set and be a normal person but I got to imagine that fire probably still Burns I just I can't imagine it doesn't right I would think that the intelligent way to do it though would be to have a warm-up fight that's what I would think you know and people would say oh she should just go right into the title fight because what if she loses boxing there's a reason why boxing has warm-up fights they're smart they they they' already figured it out

138:46warm-up fights are good for two things first of all the name warmup it really does warm you up it gets you back to competition and we saw with Jon Jones when Jon Jones recently fought um when he fought OSP he supposed to fight Daniel Cormier he felt himself and he said it he just couldn't pull the trigger he kind he felt kind of rusty in there it's cuz he'd been out for a long time more than a year right so with a guy that's trying to get back at it you know I think it was critical for him to have a tough fight against a guy like Oben St perw who's a world class number six ranked light heavyweight Get down under the belt it's a warm-up fight then fight Daniel Cor and then we're going to see what's up I think for Rhonda it's probably a good idea for her to do that too fight like a top 10 Contender a tough girl like a Jessica ey or something like that give give that girl

139:31a chance give Jessica or Rael Pennington give her a chance give her a chance to prove what she can do and maybe even upset Ronda give Ronda a chance to get her feet wet get back to competition but not be fighting for the title so who knows who knows what she's going to decide to do but she's again she's set no matter what she wants to do it's a matter what she wants to do with her Legacy it's not a matter of like a financial decision I don't think at this point um and Connor like like like so I'm I'm thinking I'm khor if I'm khor I'm like I got to work on my ground game 100% is he doing it I'm sure yeah there's pictures of him he has a brown belt apparently now and he's training the the the real issue is um uh it's a long road to develop those kind of skills at a high level you have to be and you might look good with a few moves like every blue belt like some some blue

140:21belts have like one nasty armar like there like there dudes that do like a certain technique and they they hone that down to razor sharpness but if you can avoid that how much else does he have right so it's it's like having an argument with someone if someone doesn't have a good vocabulary and you have an argument with him they might say one thing yeah well you're stupid and it might work on some people but you're like I'm stupid what about you dummy and then you start talking to that person you start talking with a lot of different words have having a lot of good points saying a lot of things that you know that they can't argue against and then you start stunning them right that's what a good argument is with two people well if an MMA fighter only has like one or two moves you only have a few things you're not going to win an argument with a someone who's verbally

141:05skilled right Jiu-Jitsu is like that in a lot of ways like someone can have a fairly good vocabulary and a fairly good understanding of the world but if you were in some sort of a debate with like Richard Dawkins about science like you're going to get up you know if you debate Christopher Hitchens while he's alive or Sam Harris about religion you're going to get up they have more tools more weapons more understanding that's the same way with jiu-jitsu it's funny I like you said Richard what's his name Richard what Richard Dawkins like like he's on a debate team he turns to team we about to these other scientists up they have no idea about the realm of vocabulary that's about to rain on their Dome and they just pounded it wouldn't be scientist though be like clergy yeah I mean they're always debating clergymen and rabbis and all these crazy people that's hilarious believe ancient

142:00listen man I got to get the out of here Ian Edwards so yeah so we're going to do uh some soccer games man you're going to bring me to the world of soccer oh yeah he's going to introduce it to me let me know it's very exciting it's F it's funny though I know what you're going to do what ia you're going to come and then you're going to talk you're going to trash the whole thing well I tell you what you you people I'm telling you right now you got to stop falling down when people slap you no nobody likes that nobody nobody likes that they shouldn't do it shouldn't do it it's it's in the NBA now too it's in the NBA now I don't want to hear this but it's it's shitty like I've never liked it but people do it to get the free kick or the penalty or to get the other person sent off it's become a part of the game it's unfortunate so let's just get that out the way before you

142:44come and cuz that's you're going to see that but besides that it's it's a it's it's a man's game yeah I mean get the out of here when Raquel Pennington choked out Ashley Evans Smith blood was pouring down her face she strangled her unconscious with one second too with a bulldog choke in the first round that's a girl it's 135lb girl and you get smacked running down the field like oh they fall they hold their mouth they roll around like a baby yeah and women and when you watch women's soer women don't do that women don't do that women do not take Dives and get smacked someone needs to start a campaign maybe we can help I maybe your podcast cuz you have a a soccer what is your podcast tell everybody soccer comic rant soccer comic rant maybe we can help maybe we can help all right go home you or if you are home go to sleep or do what don't listen to me do whatever the

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