Eddie Bravo

00:00was just a perfect situation and and we're live yeah and what and it's a UFC yeah yeah we're talking about UFC fight companion podcasts they're so ridiculously fun they're more fun than doing it live yeah and what I was saying is what makes him super crazy special for me I look forward to him so much is it's not just the best possible podcast situation the most fun the funnest we could talk about anything we could talk about gay it doesn't matter it doesn't matter we could do anything thing we could talk about sucking dick we could talk about and we can get away with it and uh people starting to get sick of it though so we should probably pull back I give them more dick give them more give them more I don't give a people are getting pissed listen some people are getting pissed those people you can't worry about but the coolest thing well not the coolest thing

00:47but makes it extra cool is it's the best possible podcast situation period yeah uh and there's a UFC going on at the same time overload over it's like you can't take it it's like you we're doing a podcast the funnest ever while the greatest show that's ever been invented is on at the same time it's a combination of those things and if the fight gets boring if like for whatever reason it's stagnant we just start talking about owls you ever seen an owl but if people get upset us talking about dicks look that's just where the conversation goes sometimes don't worry about that we're trying the best we can to be entertaining that's all we're trying there's going to be some slip UPS if you you feel like we're getting too much dick in there you're allowed to express yourself I we might have a we might have a pretty strong gay following now we do I hope we do we probably do I

01:38hope we do we're making them feel comfortable I hope they do feel comfortable I'm just keeping it real I see a guy like Alan jabon I just keep it real he's a beautiful man but even more important than who gives a you know this is the the thing like that it's even remotely controversial that we would have a gay following probably have a following of Irish people too you know what I mean who cares who gives a speaking of the Irish speaking the Irish I've got him right here oh man Hey listen man this guy has balls this is why I respect the out of Conor McGregor not just CU he's an awesome fighter and yeah he lost Nate Diaz who's also an awesome fighter but who the will fight anybody who who will just jump up the last guy was BJ the LA BJ tried it and you know what even though BJ didn't he had success once at least at 170 he beat mad Hees but at the end

02:27of the day there's a really good reason why all Elite boxers wrestlers Fighters weight cutting is so massively important to virtually everybody there are some crazy people out there like Anthony Johnson that's the exception but generally there's a really good reason most people are torturing themselves to get as light as possible because at the elite level five lb makes a big difference it makes a big difference just 5 lb and then 10 lb 10 lb difference Elite level man even the best guys aren't going up and we look at halfa mendz no doubt probably pound-for-pound the best guy in Jiu-Jitsu probably him and Marcelo Jean Jac they're all up there bam pound-for-pound there's so many good guys now Jesus he's incredible now you know what I mean uh you know even Marcelo no one's trying to go up in weight no one's trying to go let me this year I'm going to try the weight

03:23category above me no everybody's on the craziest diet they need three months they get serious about it they're on Instagram posting their broccoli every day and selfies of their of their abs and you know it they're killing themselves because not because it feels good it feels like they all love eating it me it's so important uh so everybody knows you just can't go up in goddamn weight BJ was BJ was the one that said it he went up to light heavyweight and PJ is 5 foot no it wasn't even light heavyweight bro it was heavyweight because leoa machita was like 208 that okay okay I think I think that fight was like technically a heavyweight fight find that out you know out of shape Mach you know what I mean he was fat for sure that's out of Shame did you ever see when he used to fight like kickbox K was fat his first UFC fight not that's not his real weight his real weight is 205

04:26185 so uh but BJ did it and I always admired him I to me to me I looked I always look at BJ as a living legend yeah the guy didn't he's not undefeated and he got his ass beat a few times who gives a look what BJ did he had the balls to step up and really he was a 45er just like just like Conor the whole time he was a in Jiu-Jitsu he was a 45er he was always a 45er fighting at 55 fought at 170 nobody else was doing it and you know Connor here he comes Connor this guy uh um he has so much power in his hands I he had that courage to think he could uh finish what BJ started you know let me go up there and do that do what BJ did but you know he felt like he could knock anybody out he really really believed he could he if he lands you're going down and you know what he was doing great against Nate Diaz I this is my this is my this is how I found out okay I'm watch I'm at I'm at this party

05:30slam's house and uh we I didn't realize we were behind by a minute and a half I thought we were live Oh I thought we were live but we were behind by a minute and a half everyone's going us I'm watching going oh Lizzie Boron is sitting next to me my childhood Idol he's one of my greatest uh favorite lead singers of all time he's sitting next to me we watching everyone's going nuts it looks like Connor's to me I was like Connor's going to win this thing man he was light at up cutting them all up he was connecting he looked really confident like Conor looked that whole first round I was going it's it's it it was over in the first or second second it was the second so in that round I get a call from Joey Joey's I go oh you know how much I won you know how much I I told you I told you you never bet against Diaz I go what are you talking about I thought I was

06:23watching are you talking about the Misha fight he goes no he got choked who got choked hly home got chok out I'm watching the DAT NE no what fight are you watching right now I go I'm watching the the Conor fight as it's going on he goes he choked them out I'm like dude and he goes bye boom he realized he up and I'm like and I knew that Diaz was going to win a minute before did you pause it to pee or something we were at a party and it was just behind someone were wound you know when rewind you you want to see something again and you didn't fast forward it so we we thought it was live so Joey Joey called me hysterical and he gave it away and then once he realized he gave it away he hung up and goes oh bye and I said oh bye you just up the greatest fight ever but the fight was so crazy and so insane that even though I knew even though I knew I go okay somehow Nate is going to take

07:21him down and choke him out but it doesn't look good right here I'm like how is he going to take Connor down that's not going to be easy he's going to pull this this off how is he going to do it I had no idea that Nate I Nate hurts Connor Connor takes him down you know that's how it went down the place I was at was going nuts everybody was screaming at the top of their lungs everyone was and then when he choked him out dude I'd never been in a party where everyone was going so crazy before dude everybody was losing their mind I was too should have been at the UFC holy B live everybody was going crazy jumped up and screamed I almost had a I never screamed so loud in my life at any fight ever that was shocking it looked like con Conor was just had his hands down and goes I got this he was Landing he was tagging him it looked like he hurt him a couple times he definitely tagged him a

08:21you know what I mean it looked he was I thought it was it was over for Nate I really did and when he turned it around and the way it finished and and when he put that rear naked choke in he put that in like a super ninja the the way first of all the way he mounted if you don't do Jiu-Jitsu you would never know the way he mounted and his balance you could see the balance you could see the beauty in that mount and the way he was writing him like a professional a champion Rodeo Rider all his balance is all beautiful and then when he took his back the way he put that hook in there was it was so efficient there wasn't no hiccup where he hit the you know uh this jaw and then he had to set up and then he had a feel it just went it was Insanity was so perfect and so like that technique was about as Flawless and as beautiful as you can get yeah that was two big points was that we had never

09:25seen Conor face adversity and we had never seen him on the ground with a real Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt like Nate Nate's got a nasty ground game man his ground game is tight as but but I I people are talking a lot of on Conor Jiu-Jitsu I know Conor Jiu-Jitsu is good he's come to my school that guy's good just cuz he got mounted and chok down yeah he was already hurt but even if he wasn't hurt I get mounted by my purple belt sometimes and I get my back there's some going on and add punches and all this hype just cuz he got mounted and got his back taken does not mean Conor's Jiu-Jitsu sucks don't get it twisted he was a little hurt Nate Diaz is really good that Nate natez is really really good you know what I mean like Nate Diaz could probably do that to me doesn't mean I suck yeah you know what I mean he could probably get my back doesn't mean

10:13I suck I'm all right you know so well he got hurt it's real simple when you get tagged the way he got tagged and you're trying to take Nate Diaz down he got hurt he probably had no idea what the he was doing you know I haven't had an MMA fight but sha was telling me about when Travis Brown hit him and that he's like dude I know how to get out of the mound but when Travis hit me he's like I didn't know what I was doing he was I was out of it I think that we unless you get punched in the face you can't judge as Jiu-Jitsu you're it's like judging is walking if you get head kicked Jiu-Jitsu is good Nate Diaz Jiu-Jitsu is just way better you know what I'm saying all it is somebody punches you in the face and then you walk funny like man you need to work on your walking no just punch they got memes of Conor like like in in like a kid's jiu-jitsu class they put his SP

11:01that's one that's going around I think that's got hurt you know what he's hurt he is good trust me Conor Jiu-Jitsu is very very good tust me he's not a joke especially in that first round was nasty stand up like very good he's just uh look first of all natez is not a real 170 although he did fight 170 twice he fought uh stung onun Kim and he fought uh Rory Rory McDonald remember that fought those guys at 170 so he did have two fights at 17 but he's a 155 but he's a big 155 he's big and long I don't know if he could ever make 145 I just don't think he could do it Connor barely can do it you know Connor barely can do it when you see Connor at the weigh-ins I mean those photos from the weigh-ins are pretty legendary I think it's insane that we do this that we let these guys dehydrate themselves like that I think whatever Nate walks around at that's what he should fight at and I don't know

11:55if Conor really walks around at 168 which what he weighed in and Nate raid 69 they were only one pound different and Nate you know Nate had some body fat on him cuz he wasn't he wasn't preparing for this at all I think I think Connor could make some noise at 155 shrink that up so we can see the two of those together can we do that look at look at the difference between how he weighed in before and how he weighed in this time I mean my God he looks like he has some crazy disease that like won't let food absorb in his body on the top one you know like he's got some crazy illness and then on the bottom he looks great full-faced but you know if he can make 145 he's going to continue to do it do you think it's an accident that the ring card girls are like sitting right there is that an accident it's perfect for the pictures right that's why they stand there ultimate man it's to balance out

12:48they dude in underwear you know what I mean you got to put chicks in there some that's exactly they that's that's funny that's funny that's I think he could completely dominate continue to dominate the 145 Division and I think he could make a lot of Epic fights at 1555 went beat some big names but then lose to some other big names like he'll be one of the top guys at 55 I don't know if he'll just clean house like he did at 45 but I believe if he stayed at 55 he would do some serious damage he's a bad dude yeah he's a bad motherfu and the he's saying after the fight that's all perfect perfect I love he's doing love handling it I think he handled it his L better than anybody ever ever he humble in Victory and I'll be humble in defeat no matter what happened in that fight his next fight whoever he's fighting he's going to get up you know what I mean may I mean what if he fights

13:44dos angos you know always going to be a tough fight he's going to cut him up I bet he tags him a few times I bet you're right I bet he tags him BET right he's going to tag everybody he's going hit some people and just cuz he got knocked out a lot of people every half people get knocked out in fights I mean he got knocked out he got got cracked and he got choked but um I'm interested to see how he handles the physicality of Dos anos who's a lot more physical than Nate you know dos andos is a beast I want I want to know if he could do to Conor what he was able to do to Nate what he was able to do to a lot of guys like Pettis what he did to Pettis you know that guy's strong as I was so bummed out when he broke his foot I was like God that's a crazy fight that's always going to be there but Nate all of a sudden Nate is super superstar dude that little Stoner is

14:30going to be he's probably dude he's he's super famous now everybody knows who Nate Diaz is come on dude he had the greatest alltime postf fight line I got to say I'm not surprised you know what's funny you know what's dude in the beginning Connor won the verbal battles the first couple press conferences he kind of did Conor came full-blown and then Nate Nate won towards the end dude I I felt that Nate was in in Connor's head I think It reversed it B I think he was pissing Connor off that he kept saying you yeah he just went gangster on them every time my crew will up your crew like say if you want to make this serious we we're going to pass by you guys somewhere in this hotel we'll jump you we'll do that you guys want to do that we'll actually jump you guys and it'll be all over Sher dog and well do you know that uh CLA gadea and Yan Yan gotten a full-blown street fight on the set of

15:31tough head kicks everything you know those two badass chicks clauda gelia is a badass you've seen her fight right she's nasty dude you know what she's one that I I have zero images in my head she's nasty her and yon jaek had a um they had a really close first fight Split Decision win for yon J so they coached opposite side each other CU she's the number one Contender okay when does that she's ferocious she's fer I like The Ultimate Fighter both dude J is ferocious and Claud Gia yeah there it is Dan fight yeah man she's a a Nova un girl she's good dude she's Jitsu yeah real good Jiu-Jitsu and strong as strong as when they fought the first time where she was winning was on the ground and she was doing well on the feet too but um Yanna caught her with a big uppercut I think in the first round and rocked her but she trying to take her down I'd have to go back and watch it again I

16:32remember specifics that you want a crack her with a big uppercut and her her but that clauda had overwhelmed during some of the ground exchanges and a lot of people were thinking that you and J was going to have more problems with Grapplers like Carlos Bara or like um you know like Carl is a wrestler or like um uh Juliana pan what's her now no Jessica pan Jessica Pan the uh second uh title defense that she had these girls Tred to wrestle with her though she can't you can't wrestle with her anymore she's she got better she's nasty she's really slick standing up and apparently they just went to war they just on the set beat the out of each other you're Dana White what do you do with uh Misha dude blow her up she's huge that fight was courageous I don't know man but give her a world tour first she she won one of the greatest victories in the history of MMA Dude

17:28down down on the scorecards in the fourth round with two minutes to go she hits a takedown takes her back almost gets shook over the top hangs on hangs on that was so dramatic dude that was like the end of movie F so smart she fought so smart she did everything that all the experts were saying she was going to need to do she did everything she avoided the kicks she didn't rush in and she had to pull it off in like the what was there a minute left think it was like somewhere around 2 minutes to go when she went for the takedown when she when she got a hold of her so you're down to round and last round and she wasn't winning the round nothing really had happened that was like big and significant she had a takedown she was probably losing on the cards probably I didn't look at the cards but you know she won that one round for sure when she took her down and that made everybody go

18:19oh was that the second was it the second round that she took her down was dominating her um yeah I think it was the second her uh Misha's wrestling surprise me her wrestling is a lot better than before she's hustling dude she hustle she keeps getting better Holly Hol ain't easy to take down she works her take down defense that's like her main um she probably works on her takedown defense more than her Jiu-Jitsu this is the cards yeah so what is it saying basically what do we got here mha this is hard to do these are confusing white blue pink there's a pink card I guess they all the different people it just says the referees names um okay so round nine so 10 n well who's red and who's blue Misha is blue yeah m is blue on the left on the right so Hol yeah so it must have been the H that's interesting wait wait a minute all three had 10 n for the first right all three had 108 for the second

19:20right that makes sense and all three had 10 n for the third and for the fourth so do that make it a draw no that means Holly was ahead well how do they they judge the fourth and then the fifth she was ahead and the fourth so Holly was ahead by one point right yeah yeah even though she'd won three rounds yeah so me if she would have won that round it would have been a draw I guess wow but she was she wasn't really winning the round right there they I'm surprised that they all gave him a 108 that's good that's very good good good job who were their names Marcos Rosales good job yeah that was a yeah that was a real 108 that's how 108 should look someone takes you down beats the out you but just what an what a finish that was what was amazing about it and you know Holly fought smart she used that sidekick a lot she's so good with her movement she caught Misha with a lot of punches too

20:10man but she wasn't she wasn't going after her she would catch her with punches and stay on the outside she was fighting a smart fight and she got taken down she got dominated On The Ground by Misha and that's when I was like Wow mesa's top game is solid as a rock like her control is excellent and she's strong man she's strong cuz Holly's strong Holly Holm is strong I was really impressed with her ground and pound really impressed with her top game but then you know what man the next round Holly Holm got right back on her bicycle and and and probably in everyone's eyes won that round right all those judges eyes I was to me it was uh if that would have went a decision I would have given it to Holly yeah just based on uh you know depending upon how that real damage she never knocked Misha down she never hurt Misha right it was definitely never hurt her she tagged her

21:02a couple times where you know she snapped her head back a little bit but it wasn't anything like she yeah legs giving out no so it it it was it was about to be a semi boring decision overall like who would want to watch that fight again the second round was kind of cool it was going to be one of those fights but just like that Misha turned it into one of the greatest fights ever amazing yeah that comeback last second that's like a Grand Slam in the bottom of the ninth scramble to get to the back her scramble the way she held on as Hollywood kept moving and changing and adjusting she kept holding on then finally the Hail Mary Holly tries to flip her over the top and she hangs on she hangs on to the joke and sinks it in and gets the hooks in and and when Holly goes to sleep punching in the air you know those old you know those old NFL films like when you watch

21:51those the Super Bowl from 1978 or something have that voice and they're they're doing the slow-mo and these all old you know memorable plays like epic plays in 20 years when they look back at that and they have some old like Orson Wells type narrator talking about you know about going through all that transition I mean there was a lot of drama going on there man she didn't just take her back and choke her there was a lot of there was a lot of to handle first so much was going on so much was happening yeah it it was incredible two rear naked chokes the scramble though the scramble was just so epic cuz the drama building up she's down on the cards most likely we can't watch that we're watch no we can never watch her she's down on the cards most likely she's about to she's about to lose a decision probably oh my God she's got a hold of her oh my God she's on her

22:46back oh my God oh my God she got a joke oh my God it just kept going and going and then when Holly went to sleep it was like she didn't even tap she just went out she went out punching yeah she was throwing punches when she went out you know how badass you have to be to go out throwing punches know how badass that girl is she went out she went out like throwing punches she didn't want to tap that was a good fight woo yeah it's amazing back to back Boom the best fight of the night that was that the biggest UFC ever I mean Jesus yeah was the biggest UFC ever I mean I would say it's the fight of the night but he's not the fight of the night it's the same they're both both equally insane there's no like one better finale or one better uh end concl I think I think the Conor fight was more exciting because all the way through there was a lot of damage going on there

23:40was a lot of fire going on with the Holly fight there was a lot of dancing around taking shots it was a lot of you know it definitely was it was there was a lot less action overall yeah but if you compress those if you take out a couple of those rounds and compress it all into one round then yeah I see I don't think you got to be pleased by it through the whole thing I think what's most important is that after it ends you have some like definitive conclusion and if it takes a while to get to that definitive conclusion I mean it's going to two fight fighters are tactical you're right but end it was because of that that made the end so good like without that then it wouldn't have been so juicy at the end exactly because she had gone through the full five when they were in the fifth round and it was like we've got to see she's trying things they're not working she tries this it

24:24works really good okay now Holly's trying this that's working me is trying that that's not working okay now she's going to start a kick what she she got to do something different to get close to her how's she going to figure it out down on the score Shoots for the take down grabs a hold of her gets her neck chokes her unconscious oh my God the place went insane cuz yeah you wouldn't have been that low from that stuff yeah dude the place went insane it went insane it was so epic and then damn Amisha Tate man God damn she was so happy she's so nice you know she's such a like her and Holly they're both so nice it's so nice to see like nice people like that do really well in such a brutal Savage sport you know she's really nice like one have you ever you Misha Tate's never like raised her voice at anybody she's never yelling at anybody she's like real friendly she's

25:16like real sweet to see her the UFC bantay champ I was like wow this is crazy what what a performance I think Holly is a little bit nicer though right she's super nice too she seems like some country like wife you know what I mean daughter she they call her yeah she is she really is right yeah she really is wow and she's tough as dude she went out punching yeah how cold she was like throwing punches she just wants to get in her post Time interview she just wanted to get back into it she's like when you I just she just wants to get back in and get back well you know what I loved about the pre-fight speech when she was talking about the fight itself she was like you know what ronda's going to be out for a while she goes I'm not fighting for money I'm not fighting for fame I want the action I want to fight like whoa how Wild what that's how you got to think if you want to be great

26:07right if you something to focus on yeah if you want to be a holly home I guess you have to be like that you want to be a 19 time world's women boxing champion you got to be like a crazy motivated person like that she's got to she's got to fall in love with jiu-jitsu though cuz she's not the biggest fan of Jiu-Jitsu she really needs that and this before I know I know that's that's hard to to swallow you know but uh you you got to you can't be one of those Fighters that and there's a bunch of them out there uh that uh they didn't really want to get offensively good at Jiu-Jitsu they didn't really uh have a they weren't attracted to passing the guard and taking the back and choking PP out there's a lot of wrestlers out there that just wanted to keep it on the feet do a little takeown defense and if you have to take them down stay in half guard and pound them out and just keep

26:54it simple and keep it like that you know if um you there's a lot of wrestlers like that not that she's a wrestler there Strikers there's Strikers like that too there's been quite a few throughout the years Champions that didn't really want to work on their Jiu-Jitsu the right way the right way which is sparring with everybody and not picking or sparring opponents and just jumping in Into the Fire that's how I know Connor is good because Connor does that and he's gonna get way better he's actually good at Jiu-Jitsu just Nate is a lot better but I think Holly needs to have somehow somehow it needs to happen I don't know how but she needs to fall in love ji- Jitsu and and uh because I think that's where people know I mean that that's the spot we already we haven't really seen her on her back we we haven't seen her react to Jiu-Jitsu now we have and Mesa just exposed her

27:42and she needs to get take that she needs to take care of that and fall in love with jiu-jitsu and start getting on Instagram taking pictures with her ghe you know what I mean and she's got her blue belt and be all happy she's got to be really happy about it because um she needs a there's there's a hole right there and that's where people gonna try to take her yeah she's not that hard to take down after all I thought she' be harder to take down but you know Mesa took her down well Misha mixes up her takedown tense she goes up up top and she goes down low whereas ronda's like a upper body clinch she's really in upper body clinch so all Holly had to do also Ronda in that fight was so insanely aggressive her charging after her made it so much easier for counters yeah Misha was super crafty she like very patient very patient varied her movement varied her timing didn't do any like

28:27like she didn't continue any patterns like with this her standup she moved around a lot and she did a lot of juking and a lot of she did a lot of different stuff stayed on the outside made Holly come after her like if you if you're if you're a really good counter- Striker like Holly is for her the best thing is a Ronda like someone's going to run at her the best thing is someone running at her she's she's so Fleet like her footwork is so excellent she's so light on her feet that she's so good at just sliding out of the way and cracking you while you're coming in it's like one of the things she's best at mhm so if you fight that way against her that's the kind of fight that happens she looks like a master but if you look at her fight in the very first UFC fight with Raquel Pennington she w a split decision yeah you know and that was a fight where Raquel fought more cautious a little

29:13smarter new new holl's background coming in you know if you don't like if you don't engage with her it's like remember when Anderson was in his prime if guys came after him he just butchered him but if guys hung back sometimes the fight was boring right like um Talis leus remember Talis leus like hung back and he kind of waited for Anderson um same thing with Patrick cotay Patrick cotay hung back he just fought smart he's like I'm not charging in running in anything come come get me come get me and kot like always had a big right hand so everybody had to be real careful you always had to be careful because a guy if you're coming at him he could always catch you and if a guy like kot catches you he just had that stupid power in his hand he could just knock he knocked down Tito at 205 you remember that he knocked him out down knocked him down Tito could take a

30:02shot but he knocked him down at 205 and he fights at 170 now yeah you know I mean Patrick cot can crack so Anderson never W remember Patrick blew his knee out in that fight yeah he like went to throw a kick and his knee just gave out exploded yeah he fought a very smart fight too and that's that staying when you have you fight a killer counter- Striker like that the big thing is like let them lead they don't they don't want to lead make it a boring fight let it be boring move around be patient Misha did everything right man it's amazing Ronda Misha 3 would be nice right it's probably what it's going to happen it's probably what's going to happen next according to uh what I've LED on the internets is that what of here I wonder what Ronda would want would she want uh a rematch a rematch with her after a loss or a TI title shot if I was her I if I would rather if I was her if I was

30:54her I'd be a boy tough choice right I'm a boy I can't be her if if I was her honestly I would probably I would imagine if I was her I'd want to avenge the loss cuz Holly was uh her first loss and she doesn't feel like she did her best in that fight and that fight was just she had too much going on if you hear her talk about it it was like there was just overwhelmed with obligations and and just fought wrong just didn't didn't fight correctly just had real problems going into that and then you have like her approach like getting in Holly's face the weigh in trying to make it real emotional you know you fake ass and all that stuff and then all that emotions when she fought in the ring just running after Holly and Holly just fall like a master that was one of the best performances you'll ever see of a striker negating a person's aggression like she just did it so brilliantly

31:47catching her with elbows coming in Catching her with straight lefts and then that setup for the head kick when Rhonda's all stumbling and she just catches her with that head kick I mean just to spectacular mixed martial arts performance overall like one of the best like title winning efforts in any weight class as far as like a a sheer domination it's right up there with TJ Dill Shaw hen and baral one but more probably more scary and that's one of the most spectacular highlight Clips ever where she's getting clipped y wow amazing she's a badass you know so what I think about Holly is you know Holly get back on track and uh I I really hope that she takes that advice that you just gave I think that'd be real smart she got to somehow fall in love with it and not fight it no more well I don't know if she fights it I don't know what the deal is who knows you know she's just so

32:37good at kickboxing I think uh she just wants to stay sharp in that and that's what she wants to do to girls because she feels like she has this big advantage in them against them in that but obviously she needs a little work on it and I think she'll get better man she she can she can still improve you know and I think maybe there's also the overwhelming pressure that that must come from being a champ like that experience probably takes a while to learn how to navigate I I hope I'm wrong and she's already in love with it that would be awesome if I was wrong you know I'm rooting for Holly I like Holly I think Holly Holly with of course how could I not like her I'm just being real I'm I'm sorry if it hurts anybody's feelings no no no I think what you're saying is important and I hope and I hope that I'm wrong I hope like you have no idea she's totally into it she's been

33:20on she just hasn't worked on it that long or whatever or whatever but but uh that's I would love to see Holly Holm with a a a aggressive off her back and dangerous off her back there's no reason why she couldn't be she's super athletic she has a crazy work ethic uh did you watch CR Bahar daada and um Brandon thatch there was a fight on the undercard thatch is a super talented guy man super talented karate guy but uh Bahar daada was able to take him down and he just didn't have any answers off his back it's like one of those examples of a guy who's a really talented Striker where you're not getting to see the full extent of his talent because he has a difficult time fighting off his back and he has a difficult time keeping guys from taking him down so just you know he's guys are figuring that out with him and a couple guys have dominated him on the ground and it's just unfortunate

34:09because he's so talented with his striking like when you see a guy like that you just want to go man if you could figure out a way to find balance in your skill set how good would he be you know he's so good standing up but Bard deada man my God that guy hits hard he's got one of those weird punching power bodies like he like it doesn't even make any sense I'm not familiar with him he's from Afghanistan he was born in Afghanistan grew up in Holland I think um but he is uh I want to say he did I don't think he who did he train with um oh Greg Jackson he was at Greg Jackson's camp for this but he's been out for like 800 days he had like some serious injuries man like both three years more than almost three years years two and yeah a little bit more than two years he uh had both his laams had be operated on broke his hand up his back which one's the laum inside your shoulder oh he had a

35:03bunch of operated on you know so he was out for a long time so to see him come back and but see thatch like in the beginning you see him on his back and he tries to he almost catches a triangle just throws up his legs and you know if someone who had a really good triangle like Nate if Nate was in that same position he would got it he would got the triangle for sure I mean he was all there or at least he would have secured it and bajard deado would had to defend it but he couldn't secure it I was like man that's just it was right there like you had the leg over you had the other leg here it was over like this there wasn't that much resistance like grab your ankle lock that in like what do you and he just didn't and then you see him for the rest of the fight was having a real hard time fighting off his back when you see a guy that's that good he's so talented standing up man

35:45you watch him throw knees and punches you're like Jesus this could be a this kid could be a Force just got to really polish up that ground game and especially off of his back yeah you know this is a crazy sport man you can't just have one way to go anymore you got to have the whole thing you can't there's there's very few people that are going to exist in this sport at the upper echelons with just one way to go you know one of the things that's so scary about a guy like Nate is that Nate's boxing is just as good as his Jiu-Jitsu you know his and sometimes you don't see the Jiu-Jitsu that much cuz he's so confident in his boxing and he and he throws down with guys but guys go to the ground with him I mean choked out some good dudes you know he's good you got to have some serious finishing power on the ground whether it's on your back or you on top you have at least

36:37with you on top you better have finishing power maybe you just used your bottom game for sweeps there's nothing wrong with that uh you don't you don't have to finish the guy off your back but it's always good it's always better if you could finish if you're known to finish people off your back that's anytime I roll with anybody that's like even a purple belt who Y is finishing people off his back any there's always those dudes when I'm in a row with Jeremiah like I almost rather have them mounting me like if I end up in Jeremiah's guard I'm like that mount me it's easier to get out of the mount than it is his rubber guard seriously that's crazy and there's few guys like that like a boogie M if anytime Boogie put me in his guard I go right to the mountain I got check out this sweep you're a bad boom that's funny is that crazy because that goes against conventional think oh

37:26yeah but um my I don't have the great the greatest posture in the world and my my lower back's all up so I don't try to posture out of I just I go with everything man I'm like you want to go that way let's go and let me see if I could hold on and get a little clinch and then go back this way bam you know I don't I don't I'm too old to uh uh force my way through anything that's probably the smart way to do it though right that's the tradition Jitsu that's my Jiu-Jitsu is becoming very survival now my guys are me up now oh there's this phase I'm getting tapped out all the goddamn time now man if I'm the only way I could tap out my C certain purple belts is if I have gas if I'm tired and I take a round with one of my purple belts I'll be on on uh survival mode the whole time man my guys are coming with fire now and throwing leg locks you leave your feet out damn uh

38:19it's it's pretty crazy now getting any leg injuries no no no no no just my back finally getting that dis but I mean other people in class getting any knee injuries or anything no it's it's a myth really it's a myth you'll hurt your arm or your shoulder at the same rate you'll hurt your knee we do leg locks all the goddamn time that's so interesting because I was always the worry T planet has always been that way we never banned reaping we never I never frowned upon heel hooks I personally never got really heavy on heel hooks I was always heavy on leg compressions a different style leg lock I was always doing those not really heel hook so much uh but uh we've always had heel hook Masters no I would I probably I wouldn't have asked that if that wasn't something that comes up all the time people talk about leg locks you know I kind of I know the answer because

39:04if if it was I would have heard about it think it's a myth I think it's a myth that leglocks are when we were brought up in Jiu-Jitsu you the whole Brazilian jiu-jitsu Community banned heel Hooks and and frowned upon them and and uh do you remember that time you were at a tournament and they started booing and screaming when you went for a guy's leg yes when I first during my white belt years and into my blue Bel years I saw Ken Shamrock instructional he's wearing jeans and and he's got no shirt he's wearing jeans and he's like in a small little gym and he's got this Japanese guy and he's doing this tow hold from the top from top half and I was always playing half guard like right away as a white belt is that's like the worst guard ever as a quarter guard I mean it doesn't get any worse than that anything worse is you got your guard pass so I was always playing the worst

39:51because I was I was small and weak but uh um you would go after tow holds yeah I learned it from Ken Shamrock started going after tow holds and I got pretty good at him I was tapping with them and I I did this tournament it was the first PanAm and it was in LA and Elsa gundo 1996 or 97 the first PanAm I went for a tow hold and there was about 500 Brazilians that they shipped in because it was the first panah hams and there was like this big Retreat and they took they had them all in this this hotel right down the street from the gym and it was Mayhem and I'll never forget that and this we were in Elsa gundo in LA and there was 500 Brazilians that got shipped in for the PanAm and of course they dominated they killed everybody in jiujitsu but I did wrestle a Brazilian and I put him in a tow and as soon as I put him in the to the whole crowd went nuts it it was a

40:49riot almost happened it was Ju Just Riot I don't know what what stopped them but they were throwing shoes at the mat they were throwing bottles at the uh water bottles at me and I'm sitting there holding the toe hold and everyone's screaming and I'll never forget Johnny Machado comes running like slow motion and these slides cuz you got to let it go let it go and I was like and I let it go and then the guy beat me on points but um so Johnny Machado slid in and told you got to let it go because everybody was going crazy yeah everyone was going crazy let supposed to attack the legs back you weren't supposed to attack it was dirty crazy it was dirty back then and then in the parking lot like that the mean Joo green commercial remember that old mean Joo GRE commercial where he's drinking a Coke and there's like a little kid yeah well I felt like a little kid cuz I ran into

41:32Eric Paulson in the parking lot and he was getting the same reaction when he was going for leg locks and he was like a blue belt at the time and he he and uh I think we're the same age but for some reason I felt always felt like a little kid and he had all this knowledge he was a blue belt and Jiu-Jitsu but he had trained in Japan and fought in chudo and he was already like a professional fighter and was an expert at leg locks who just got into Jiu-Jitsu so he's competing competing at a blue belt everybody up with leg locks right is Eric Paulson young ass Eric Paulson's at 24 and we're in the parking lot and he showed me this leg lock and he goes listen check this out man don't forget this cuz he he he saw a little of him and me because I was going for a to hold right he goes oh look at that dude he's getting a lot of heat too because he's going for a leg lock so

42:15right away but it was totally legal that's what's crazy you could have tapped the guy out and it would have been legal I don't know I don't remember what the rules said I don't remember but so it might not have beenal I thought they were legal maybe it's illegal but even if it was illegal the crowd erupted the Brazilians went nuts and throwing shoes and screaming for some some belt ranks right like in some tournaments yeah uh you can't do heel hooks graci Nationals and Gracie worlds you can do heel hooks at purple belt and above white belt and blue belt no heel hooks you could do Straight ankle locks and knee bars at Blue and no no legs at all at White zero legs at White uh ankle locks knee bars leg compression at blue and then they allow heel Hooks full reaping and everything purple belt on those are the the best rules I love those rules you don't need heel hooks for blue belts but

43:08like Naga they let everybody heel hook so and it's there's not this like you know big epidemic going on where people are just getting their knees just ripped off not at any 10 Planet school every now and then someone does get a knee injury just like they do get an arm injury or shoulder injury sometimes people get put in a heel hook and it their knee up sometimes but sometimes it happens with the arm at the same rate we do heel hooks all the time no one's getting every now and then someone gets hurt but it's just part of the game but it's every now and then someone gets hurt from everything yeah yeah it's not you know if people were get trust me as a businessman if if if I saw that I'm walking around every night and I'm looking at what's going on I know exactly how my I know who's playing what what everyone's different style you know especially at like the purple belt

43:54level I I I pretty much know where they're coming from no one's getting hurt everyone's doing H Hooks and you just you you uh man it's a different world when you're going against leglock experts that know jiujitsu like guys like Eddie Cummings and Gary tonin like black belts at Jiu-Jitsu that are hyper super ultra leg locky Yeah holy you better watch your so uh if you are not training leglocks leglocks are you know when everything go when it's submission only when there's not all these stupid rules when they just when it's just like that jiujitsu that you fell in love with everybody falls in love with the Jiu-Jitsu that they walk into their dojo and then they train for the first day and they love it they love it and they fall they fell in love what with what happened and what goes on every night in that class there's no point people are just rolling

44:50and they're trying to get the submission that's what you fall in love with what you see at a tournament that's not what you fall in love with no one goes do what you J Jitsu tournament for the first time I'm going to I love this I'm going to do this they run they're gone that's the that's how you turn people off to Jiu-Jitsu you their first experience is a points tournament where there's 12 matches going on at the same time we'll see how long that lasts people that like Jiu-Jitsu can't even hang well especially when with the G exactly God Oh They'll they'll like this they're playing tug award whole John Jac thinks it's boring yeah yeah exactly John Jac's like it's so boring yeah yeah so well some of the guys are just trying to get advantages and trying to like just score a point and hold on I think the rules that you set up for ebi are the best rules they're the best

45:36rules because you go a certain amount of time what is it 10 minutes how many minutes 10 minute matches 16 man tournament uh 10-minute matches with overtime if there's no it's a no points no Advantage it's all submission only like you have to get the submission you know yeah and what what's really interesting is you've got this idea that uh you know until I saw it I was not sure what to think think of it I was like hm all right I don't know I don't know how the hell he's going to do this the overtime on paper sounds crazy on paper sounds crazy but in practice it's the best thing because if you watch a Jiu-Jitsu match one of the things that happens if you're a casual Observer if you watch like a Marcelo Garcia some guy just attacks and strangles somebody like whoa that was amazing like that guy's awesome like I've showed some people that don't ever do Jiu-Jitsu I've showed

46:20them like a Marcelo Garcia match and you watch him choke somebody and it's it's so spectacular to watch cuz his movements are so impressive they're so fast and lethal you know but a lot of Jiu-Jitsu matches will end in nothing some guy gets on top and then he reverses the guy gu goes for a leg lock he doesn't get it guy goes for a choke he doesn't get it the other guy winds up on top they reverse positions and you run out of time so when you run out of time like that for a lot of people it feels inconclusive so you decide you're going to have how many different rounds of it do they do four rounds what's the most amount of rounds of overtime they can do well first off let me let me say that uh you know if there's nothing wrong with the point game if you like the point game there's nothing wrong you get really good at it you know what you're going to get good at passing

47:05and you're going to get good at sweeping and your wrestling is going to be good nothing wrong with that it's like a it's like a little uh subculture cerebral type thing positional thing nothing wrong with that you could use that as a training tool like getting good at points tournaments just you know because you're going to work on your passing and your sweeping and you know you might as well do points you know and for MMA like if you're lethal with punches and you you like to do that it's not a bad strategy at all yeah there's nothing wrong with that I'm not trying to stomp that out I want to make it I'm not trying to compete against that at all all it's a beautiful I just you just my goal has always been to put uh to create a Jiu-Jitsu show and I thought it would have been done by now and a lot of people have tried that to put a jiujitsu show together on uh That's so exciting

47:54that it can compete with on the overall ENT mment value with an MMA show like your average MMA show I go dud this is so so beautiful we we're obsessed with it why can't we s what's going wrong what's going wrong there's been a professional submission League uh hickon even had a show um there metam Morris there's Polaris I mean none of these shows including mine including mine none of these shows are making any money I haven't made any goddamn money with my show we all know that in the Jiu-Jitsu Community there's there's no money there the show fail constantly what what is it about they works of passion and that's the reason why they're still around like when you go to an an ebi and you're in the audience that is an audience of Jiu-Jitsu enthusiasts like everybody is pumped yeah they're all very excited to be there and there's a feeling of a a comradery in that kind of a crowd that's

48:44very different than a crowd that just comes out to see like a UFC even because a lot of people in the audience at a UFC are gigantic fans a lot of them are fanatical a lot of them are like you and me a lot of them but there's a lot of other people that are just there because it's an event there's a lot of other people that just there because it's a scene there's a lot of people that are on their phone half the time and they're not even paying attention to the fights there's that too and an ebi there's none of that it's Jiu-Jitsu freaks everybody knows and everybody's clapping for everything everybody knows when a heel Hook's close everybody knows when a choke is close everybody knows everybody knows what's going on everybody knows when a guy cinches up a triangle everybody knows so there's a beauty to that but let me explain what you do because we didn't finish it you

49:23have overtime so when a fight goes to a draw like at the end of it the time runs out what you do is you take these guys and you force them into dangerous positions yes so you force a guy on a guy's back with over under and you start from there you say ready go and when you do that then the guy on the bottom tries to get out the guy on the top in the good position tries to finish if the guy finishes you move on to the to another round and the other guy tries to do it if he can't finish him uh the guy who finished and won but he gets his chance in a bad position as well but if you have Sate over the rounds of that you just count out the time who got out the quickest which guy escaped from the other guy's bad positions the quickest and you calculate the time well traditionally overtime with jiu-jitsu uh matches it usually went it came down to wrestling who had the better wrestling

50:14cuz if they would be overtime there's no points or whatever they go into overtime there's three minute overtime five minute overtime it or or sudden death whoever gets the first points win it's really going to come down to who has the best wrestling because they're all that overtime period they both start on their feet so what's the mo the most important thing on your feet is the wrestling here that's going to that's going to determine overall the superior wrestlers are going to win uh that's always been the case really in all the overtimes it always comes down to the wrestling generally so I never really was a fan of that because I I've seen plenty of wrestlers in submission tournaments not know anything about submitting but they they'll run away with the gold medals just based on the wrestling and and that's a beautiful thing I wish I had that wrestling but when it's a sub

50:54submission or jiu-jitsu tournament we should the best Jiu-Jitsu yeah the best Jiu-Jitsu should win not the best wrestling wrestling the best Jiu-Jitsu the best the best at submitting should win like a guy like Marcela Garcia should win the overtime should make it so the best wins generally so um instead of starting on the feet my overtime rounds we start in terrible positions like and it's like Extra Innings you get out of like if we were going uh at it and we went into overtime you'd get a shot at my back and then I'd get shot at your back if you finished me it's not over yet I get a shot at your back if I finish you we tie we go an Extra Inning it's an extra round three max three max but it could end in that first round it could end in the second round if it goes all three rounds and we're still tie whether it's two submission a submission each or an escape each and another escape and

51:46that's three total or all escapes we add all the combined escape and submission times together and whoever had the quickest or shortest time so it encourages that when you're on my back that I'm not going to just sit there and just hold the choke you should try to get the out cuz if this goes you know to a triple overtime this is going to matter so what it does is it opens up a submission for the guy because the guy has to escape yeah if it's if it's confusing um just you can go see it live on uh you can see it on YouTube right you UFC Fight Pass you could see ebi4 that's where we're at now but the ones that you have now like there are some matches online if somebody wanted to go and look at it right now right yes and then the new one one the next one the absolute one this big crazy one is going to be in April in La Sunday April 24 is that the 4th April

52:3524th and that's an absolute one right where you have all sorts of different weight classes represented yes I'm sorry dude what are you doing I want to make sure I got the day right yeah Sunday April Sunday April 24th downtown LA at the orfium it's going to be streamed live on UFC Fight Pass orfium is an awesome theater too if youve never been it's one of those old classic downtown LA theaters it's probably be from the 30s or something right like when did they build that I don't know it's awesome it's awesome so to to watch your show there dude it's so cool it's so cool to see it blowing up like last time we were there we're sitting in the audience like whoa this is amazing it's crazy right it's amazing it's amazing it's packed I couldn't have done it without my partner Victor Davila he's the one guy he's the I never wanted to be a promoter man that's not something I ever ever thought

53:28I'd ever be like a promoter for a show that's not what I was trying to do I was trying to come up with an idea to like give it to another promoter to do it like do this side but nobody everyone thought it was the dumbest idea they thought I was losing my mind they they thought I smoked too much weed so then uh I thought you know what I'm GNA try to do it and Victor vict but the the problem was it was too much work I looked into it I'm like I I can't do this I was you know but Victor came in Victor Davila he's the the span Spanish commentator for the UFC came up to me and he said Hey listen let me do all the work it'll be your idea you you run the show as an executive producer let me produce it I'll make it all happen and I'm like and he makes it really easy for me he does all like when you walked in and saw the stage I didn't have anything to do with that he's got a

54:15background in in production I mean in working on television he knows a lot of he's such a good dude man Victor's awesome he's one of my greatest friends ever man he's like he's the best yeah so he's we've known him forever too man when did we meet Victor working at the UFC but when what year was it oo that must have been 2008 is 2009 is something like that I think it was even earlier than that thought he was like I think it was like six 2006 or S I want to say thought he was like a four years old remember big Brock Lesnar fan it was back in the Brock Lesnar days that's that's that's what I remember for sure yeah there was definitely some he's that kid's awesome man and he's training a lot now too right um yes yes he he broke his arm so he's been out a little while and stuff but uh he helps he's a an ebi um associate producer did he broke his arm and training y arm Crush arm crushed

55:15o arm crush is scary yep that's a scary one my favor bone armor crush is one of my favorite it's you rarely see it in MMA you know rarely so unusual you know when was the last time you saw an a bicep Crush in MMA I think George sopis did it did he I think so back back in the day when we used to work together I think he did it on uh George rup I don't know I I get the names all mixed up but uh it's a crazy sport man there's nothing crazier than MMA you watch the combination of punching kicking and you're seeing a lot you're seeing a lot more guys go for leg locks now see you notice that the last UFC there was a guy he didn't pull anything off though but forget who he was but he was all over dude's legs and never and he was couldn't get hit in a lot of angles you know back you talking about uh um was it uh Darren Elkins fight maybe maybe he's um who was he fighting

56:18maybe God damn it it was a great fight for Elkin why why can't I remember who the hell he was fighting too many people in that last card this week yeah Skelly I think that's right Chaz Skelly I think Chaz was like 4- one in the UFC and Elkin just dominated him Alin moved to um to um Sacramento trained with alpha male moved his family said it I got to make a run this fight that I'm talking about I think so yeah he and Elin just ground and pounded him there was a couple times where he was going for Elkin's legs but Elkin just ground and pounded sh I think you're going to see a lot more leg locks now I think with Ryan Hall in there there no matter what you got to watch your legs whether you could punch the guy in in his face or not you got to watch your legs Ryan Hall he'll take you he'll take your leg off real quick and I think everybody's aware two of the trend

57:05in Jiu-Jitsu yeah and Gary tonin's talking about I mean he's going to do MMA it's it's strange seeing Ryan Hall in there you know it's strange cuz he's always been the Jiu-Jitsu guy you know and and we're going to see him he would do MMA and he's in there now and he's throwing down and he's he's making some waves yeah Gary tonin is going to be really interesting because he's he's been striking for quite a while like really trying to tighten it up really working on getting that in order and he's a smart guy he's not going to jump in anything like kind of half ass he'll have his striking in order before he has his first fight he'll get some leg locks oh yeah for sure in MMA yeah well he get a lot of chokes he'll get all everything he's a he's a bad when it comes to Jiu-Jitsu and only getting better yep I think the MMA fighters are always aware of Trends you know and the

57:49the the big Trend in Jiu-Jitsu it's not like they're not going to pay attention to that there's there's obviously a leg lock bias going on right now in Jiu-Jitsu people training that really heavily they realize I think there's a bunch of people kind of knew leg locks and were good at leg locks but it seems like once donaher and that crew got involved in it there became like a whole new level of uh intensity when it comes to leg locks absolutely Dan her crew uh Gary tonin Eddie Cummings and now Gordon Ryan he just got his black belt from tonin and that all started from right that all started from Dean L y yep Dean lisst went down to henzo for a couple weeks hung out with Dan her showed him out lot of leg lock I'm sure he probably leg locked a lot of their uh upper level guys and and made an impression and uh and then danah her being like you know he's like a astrop

58:42physicist he probably took that he probably took that that Dean liser told him and just uh just blew it up he's such a wizard just added so much stuff and then Eddie Cummings is super smart too so he's taking all the Dam showed him and he's adding a lot of pass it all on to Gary tonin and Gary tonin already had rear naked chokes he already had great defense his Jiu-Jitsu is solid as he added leg locks over the last few years and now he's a you want to hear something crazier than that I go to Don her I go how did Eddie Cummings hurt his leg he goes well he's was rolling with some of the other students that we have in the gym that might be a little bit more advanced than him with leg locks they just don't use them yet just they they don't compete and I was like what you got guys in your gym that don't compete that are better than any Cummings at lead loocks you know how

59:30scary that is he said that yeah oh how scary that is yeah but the way John Doner says it very definitive yeah perhaps we have guys that are may be a little bit more advanced than him they just uh they don't compete there's two kind of games now man there's that uh because you you can't shut down a leg lock game but you got to have a solid clinching top heavy game M you got to have that slow smashing destroying game to stop those leg locks who's the best at stopping leg locks right now with that game um well we I'd have to say um I don't know who the best is but I would say uh in Abu Dhabi Lucas lepri Lucas lepri he went against Gary tonin and um he he just hit him with the straight knee C KNE cut pass with that underhook and just uh didn't finish him but he stayed out of leg lock d in anyone on points when was this his last year his last year that's impressive so I

60:31mean technically he beat Gary tonin technically he he avoided all the smashed him down I think he passes guard may have even took his back even to tell you the truth I I don't remember I I shouldn't say that but um nonetheless though he uh uh that is that's one kind of game right there cuz he for sure wasn't going to start playing leg locks with Gary tonin no he knew the game was like we got to stay away from that and you got to be you got to know how to stay away and you got to be able to put some heat on someone with leg locks you got to know how to get out of leg locks if you're not working leg locks all the goddamn time you're going to be so far behind you really really are it's a whole new world grow growing out there and in the sub only world the subm mission only Community if it's if you don't know leglocks you will never survive isn't that interesting you will

61:25never survive so go back just to when you were competing in the tournament as a white belt and people screaming and booing when you're going for a leg lock could you imagine what it's like today 2016 nobody saw this coming yeah yeah but there's still tons of resistance on leglocks still that's amazing yeah they're still there's still uh Jiu-Jitsu instructors out there posting uh anti-le lock stuff you know what the problem is it's the the legs are the strongest muscles in the body right the legs are attach to the longest limbs you can you can move them in ways you can never move your arms you realize how limited your arms are when you're not using you know your your legs to go after legs and to hold positions you realize like how it's kind of silly almost to use your arms as opposed to your legs they most of the community looks at it like in a in a negative way it's a positive thing you

62:15have you have a whole another game to learn don't it's a whole another game that's the problem they don't want to learn the whole new game they you know people get really good at one thing they get really good at one thing and then they want to stick with that yeah that's really what it they got to get through that isn't that amazing though that the very thing that made Jiu-Jitsu so popular in the first place was that it had figured out a way to make something the most technically effective where a small guy like ho can beat a big guy like Dan San like and it was the using the techniques that work but then these new techniques that work they're like nope I don't know those no you got to stick to the old only the old ones like that that's we just got to figure out how to defend against these leg locks let's get the other of boys let's work this through this

62:58Muay Thai kickbox and that's never gonna catch on yeah I mean there's a lot of Trends you know like there there was a point in time where people weren't throwing any head kicks Dean lisst is going to do this next ebi ebi 16 lisst Vinnie mes who's one of those one of those rare Brazilians who's really into sombo too he's been preaching leglocks and he's very good at leglocks yeah amongst many other things Vinnie's good at everything Vinnie we got uh Yuri Samo he's he's awesome uh he's he won Abu Dhabi right I don't he's he was I don't know I don't remember I mean that's a a shitty answer for someone who's putting him on the show all I know all I know is he's really good and he fought in Abu Dhabi 205 right you find that out Jamie Yuri spell it y r i Simon y r i s i m o e s Yuri Samo yeah there's there's so much Talent now uh Matias Denis he's from Marcelo Garcia he's in it Bruno bastos

64:03is in it these are like highlevel dudes man yeah so if you listen if you're thinking about like man I never watched a gjc tournament before with the way these guys are talking about it's making my dick hard this is what you do you go on UFC Fight Pass if you don't have UFC P Fight Pass if you like fights man this is the what is this him yeah um does it have he's one of the best guys in the world yeah this next one we're stacked now we're stack back now man we yep he won the Abu Dhabi right does it say yeah did he win Abu Dhabi Champion first thing oh 2015 I'm an idiot dude he's a bad anyway multiple time world champion as a a purple belt and absolute he's just a bad all around but what I was saying is if you if you've never watched a submission tournament you've never seen guys try to submit each other like this sounds kind of interesting get UFC Fight Pass I'm telling you I don't want

64:53to be I don't want to sound like a shill I wish UFC would offer up like a free month of UFC Fight Pass so people would get addicted to it but if you're at home and you're bored and you're like I don't know what to watch what's on TV you just feel like vegging out in front of the television UFC Fight Pass will occupy your time you can find the greatest fights of all time all of them and we're we're doing five shows a year with them they won five at least amazing so we got to pump them out every two months so and on top of that you know you got the the people that are UFC fans that are going to leak into it you know that's a big one and they have a ton of different organizations as well they even have Glory now yep y so cool um Gary tonin and Eddie Cummings are both in this absolute uh DJ Jackson um Richie Martinez Amir Alam uh rustam chv he's he was in Abu Dhabi he I think he was

65:47second or third this guy's is huge wrestler rustam chess he's got hair on his back he's just spell his name D yeah r u s t a m c h s e e f c h s e i e v r an animal yeah he's like what everyone is afraid of when you think about Rus and wrestlers yeah exactly that's everybody's afraid of a guy who looks like he looks like a real live Wolverine can you see the hair on his back he's got it on his back how big is he he's dude he is one of the everyone's afraid of this dude very hard to do anything to this guy and he keeps getting better and better he was in I think he was second or third in Abu Dhabi he's a he's got hair on his back like a werewolf look at his back nobody wants him dude no one wants to be no one wants to be paired up with that guy I couldn't want imagine he's really good too his passing is getting spectacular I wonder how long a guy like

66:51that can compete with that style like oh go ahead no I was just going to say like that kind of Smashing crushing power style boy that's so taxing he used to he didn't used to pass as much he just throw people around and get on top of them wear them out but now he's really good at passing and finishing now gorilla yeah we got uh Lucas roacha who's from Gracie Baja one of the top guys this this this is the most stacked we've ever been man this is super super stacked that's so awesome what a great way to kick it off great way to kick it off on Fight Pass it's going to be fu God that's that's so fun is it amazing that it just became something you know just I never planned on it man isn't that how it works though that's how it works that that's this thing this podcast never planed on this either again more like 10th Planet wasn't even planned I know dude I know

67:43nothing about that I'm 32 years old I don't know nothing about no 10th Planet how crazy is at 32 how crazy is it that we were like in love with that Zacharias hitching guys book and now they think they might have actually found this planet is that for real oh yeah I don't even pay attention to that yeah they have no photographs of it but they are pretty sure to the point where they're stepping out and saying there's a large planet probably about four times the size of Earth that's outside of our conspiracy theory stuff no not anymore it's real no now it's mainstream scientists are saying this I think even NE Tyson has addressed it people keep sending me but I'm like oh it's another one of those things they're going here Jamie will pull it up man for real yeah well Eddie Eddie turned me on to this um he's like dude do you ever heard of Z Zacharias Hitchin we we got

68:28so deep we used to do bong hits and and talk about the Anunnaki and watch documentaries on it some crazy stripper told me about it she's like do you know that we used to mine world for gold and I'm like Gina what are you talking about she goes why do you think we like gold so much we used to be slaves I'm like oh my God I just thought she was the craziest person ever and then I thought about it for five minutes I used to make music with her and I'm like wait a minute it is kind of weird that the one one thing we all agree on is the gold is money that's the one thing we all agree on nothing else and I then I asked her Gina who is this guy who told told you about this what is this guy's name and so she gave me his name I called him up I said hey I'm Gina's friend she said you were talking about some crazy who who wrote books about uh us being slaves and all that goes oh yeah some guy named

69:20let me see the sit or Zachariah sit and I'm like okay and I wrote down then I looked into them and that's how I discover this is all pre- internet right it was uh 20 99 2000 2000 it was 2000 you had the internet but it was harder to find back then the ninth planet does it exist a 10,000-year orbit in outer reaches of our solar system so they're trying to figure it out right now but um what they believe is this is they've been believing this for a while is that apparently there's the reason why they Declassified PL they say that Pluto is not a planet anymore it's because Pluto is a large body in the Kyper belt and the Kyper belt is a belt of just large asteroids and round things and floating around out there which is really weird because the photos of Pluto that they've uh released recently the really up close photos they just released it's a planet we're

70:16nitpicking here that's a goddamn Planet but they don't think it's big enough to be a planet all right whatever it looks like a planet pull up the photos of Pluto the newest food they're amazing yeah exactly have you seen them no I haven't seen them but to me it's was like it's there right it's there you call it a planet you call it a dwarf you call they call you think they're going to call it a dwarf you know 10,000 years ago yeah who cares what you call it it's it's something it isn't like oh no it never existed it was a black hole no it's some it's a body of Master they what they think is that there's so many of these out there they found another one do you remember this you and I were at a bar having a drink one day um here it goes these are the photos yeah find this this is some of the photos I think those are color corrected to show like different

70:57things but there's some of the uh the actual surface I think the far right one that you uh um no no no no this is the moon Jamie there's some some from the uh far right one it says Pluto yeah but that looks like the the ones from that all images right there that's Pluto the one down below above Planet X that's Pluto it say Earth's Moon though yeah but look it shows all these different planets on this that's Earth's moon that's weird yeah it's a that's Google search though right um just go to uh go to the web search the web search and then just write recent photos of Pluto what is it new Cassini is that what it is that took the photographs what was the um the Cassini so there's a bunch of Pluto is what they're saying right yeah there's a bunch of plos so they found another one you and I were at a bar once I remember this cuz uh I I saw it on my phone so it had to be an

71:52iPhone um someone had sent this to me dude you got to check this out and I clicked on the link and it went to a website that showed that there was a new planet and I was like dude they found it but it turned out it was right before they Declassified pulo they went wait a minute there's a bunch of these things out there these aren't really planets and so they think to make a long story short there's a bunch of these things out there and then behind that is a thing called the galactic shelf where it just drops off and that would indicate that there's a large high like large massive object out there another planet what if they like there's nothing there H major there's nothing it's just Blackness just what if like who knows like really what's out there you know like scientists what do you mean astronomers they have some pretty insane telescopes now they can see some

72:36wild wild they've identified hundreds of planets now which is really weird because just a decade or so ago they hadn't identified any outside of our solar system it's only hundreds decades I I think it's probably hundreds yeah look at that woo look at the surface of that thing man that's crazy you could take a picture of Pluto yeah but look at it that is a circular round thing that looks like a planet so but whatever nitpicky that that's not a planet it's because there's a gang of those out there dude there's a gang of them they don't know how many there are they're going to find new ones this uh Kyper belt there's a bunch of little tiny objects out there that are like Pluto size smaller than Pluto and they I think they assume that they're going to find more CU this object whatever it is it's outside outside like in the 10,000 year orbit around Earth is Big way bigger than us

73:28four times as big outside all that those little ones outside all the little ones that's there's apparently there's a drop off there's like the belt I might be butchering this and if I am I apologize but what I've read and try to remember was uh that there's something called the galactic shelf and that would indicate something that has a lot of mass something that has a lot of gravity something that's big and so they think it's bigger than I mean they're they're saying it's four times a of Earth so it's something really big just nuts man it's just nuts to think there's another planet out there and what's even more nuts is what if there's life forms on it what if this thing in this 10,000 year orbit around Earth is heated by its core what if it gets its heat instead of from the Sun what if it gets its heat internally and its life forces are all from it internally maybe that's where the

74:24anunaki are imagine if that was a real story imagine if this Anunnaki thing I mean we everybody laughs at it everybody thinks it's funny but like when the 10,000 years rolls around and that gets close they really are a bunch of aliens living on that thing who made us could you imagine nothing would ever mean anything again your credit cards what you know how much gas is nobody would give a it would all be so so back of your mind everything would be in the back of your mind except oh my God there's a planet out there and there a bunch of people who made us out of monkeys they came down they did genetic engineering experiments on monkeys just like we would do just like we would do if we if we found some planet in outer space especially if we were like scientists that were like thousands of years removed from us today like way way way way way in the future maybe Millions

75:24like a million years more evolved they look at these monkeys like we're just going to help them out here just going to help them out we know where this is going anyway just grab them shoot some that'd be the the greatest thing to experience ever like what could you imagine how Earth shattering it would be if there was a real life form from another planet that we could absolutely identify a real civilization and they were super Advanced and they were coming by to visit J Jesus Christ son I'd have some questions you immed idea inside we have no idea what what we're inside of no like we're just it's it's in you can't even it's uh aliens in space is man remember how we were so into them like in the in the late 90 or the early 2000s aliens were like always on my mind not anymore though I think it's because the History Channel killed that that Al Ancient Aliens maybe that was the plan

76:32the all along is you know what let's kill this whole alien Movement by putting it on History Channel over and over again but what if I remember you called me up once man dude you called me up once it was a hilarious conversation you go dude I'm just not into aliens anymore History Channel killed it for me man remember that yeah how cool was that first season of Ancient Aliens dude was awesome it was going mainstream Zachariah sit went mainstream it was awesome man oh then they did another season well they just ran out of to talk about unfortunately start off as a special did it start off as a special maybe maybe then it turned into a series but those first ones are awesome man boy sucos he's awesome oh man when was the last time we talked to him haven't talked to him in a while man I wonder if the overall industry is kind of down like he got upset when I was

77:30honest about like what I think about some of the stuff I just think but some of it is just too bullshitty it's just too it's like could be it was aliens like oh come on man they went too they're selling yeah look there's a certain amount of that stuff that is absolutely fascinating when you look at some of the um depictions of like aircrafts like the Egyptians used to do they used to make like these little model aircrafts what do you think is the most compelling evidence for you for if you had like a UFO skeptic right here and you had like five minute what what's your goto almost nothing nothing right nothing that's what's up there's nothing there's nothing there's nothing there's not one thing you can point disclosure project all the witnesses and stuff yeah that's interesting but they could all be crazy they could all be out of their mind you just never know you just never know

78:23there's all sorts of experence that people can have too that are very very unusual weather condition things like ball lightning ball lightning is one that's really crazy cuz apparently there's swamp gas well there's ball lightning apparently moves like some alien spacecraft and apparently if you saw ball lightning and they've identified it it's like this really rare form of lightning that instead of coming down like really fast like a line it can move around and it's it's a same sort of idea it's like an electrical charge that breaks free you know I don't I'm not doing a good job of explaining it but I've seen videos on it I've seen it explained and I think if you were flying around man and you saw that you'd probably think that was UFO and if you saw a lot of the experimental aircraft that they did I talked about it with shurmer before you got here I think

79:14there's a lot of that stuff with just people seeing for sure most of it probably but I the more the more um the more you get into how um up like corporations are and how up like we've been for so long the more you look at aliens like oh they are dis distracting us with the aliens they want us to think about aliens you know what I mean it seems like a a big distra distraction I think people love it I think that's why it's on I think it sells I don't even think they're trying to distract this I think it appeals to that archetype and it's one of the things that Shermer talked about before you got here in the earlier podcast we were talking about how it's like for a lot of people that are atheists that becomes their God and it kind of makes sense it's like well I don't believe in fairy tales but I believe maybe we were created by aliens who ran experiments on monkeys and

80:08they're all written like how come we won't believe the Bible but we believe the Sumerian text well that's how funny that is that's an easy question but how funny is that we we don't we're not into the Bible but we're into some but that those people were dummies but these people 2,000 years before them dude they had it nailed what it is it's not Gods it's aliens man they came from another plan it all depends on the story you know CU an alien story actually kind of makes sense cuz we're we're just in we're in space and there's a lot of planets and no look it's I always think of it as would we do it would we do it do what would we run experiments on some life form that we saw on some other yeah of what do we do to monkeys we're doing we always testing AIDS medicine on monkeys and we we would do some weird with some monkeys from another planet too we're probably doing some weird ass on

80:59this planet that we don't know about oh for sure there there's got to be clone humans everywhere especially not in America where they don't have any rules you know like you can go to some countries they'll do anything like China's started doing experiments on human embryos like genetic experiments on human embryos just raise Hit Men you know what I mean just genetically modified Supermen yes yeah I mean it's just a matter of time before they do something like that if they can do this genetic engineering and get through a few generations of it to they fact they got the Kinks ironed out and start making a a series of alexand Kellin with a Einstein brain yeah can you imagine if they could have a brain Beyond Einstein if you could create a human or a clone but you could do something so the brain develops like 10 times stronger and you're just like yeah you can read minds

81:44and it's probably going to happen it's definitely going to happen and then when that does happen and we see some poor monkey on some other planet we flying around out there in space be like let's fix that dude just give a little of our jizz just squirt it in there see see if he can figure it out from here take that monkey re-engineer it give it a language they probably would have figured out language if you give enough time do you know they think that chimps are starting to enter into the Stone Age it looks like I was just watching a documentary of a monkey and everyone's seen those those those uh videos of monkeys with sticks and they're using it to eat ants and like that I was watching I was watching a video of a monkey who broke off a stick and started banging the bark to get uh some honey that was under the bark but the stick wasn't big enough so

82:28he throws it and then he helps and grabs another one carves It All Out J and then starts he should probably be using that as a weapon at this point if he's doing that you know what I mean what happens then when when they learn how to use it as a weapon on each other and well what's amazing is what if what we're seeing is them learning it what if what we're seeing is like they you know when when they're just starting to observe this now what if In Our Lifetime they start using tools yeah like it seems like that's what's going on because they don't either it's one of two things either they just didn't have enough video of them back then and they didn't have enough people observing them to really realize they' probably been using these tools for a hundred years or so or they just started doing it in our lifetime yeah you know that's that could be possible have you ever seen Snopes

83:14this I want you to Snopes this because I don't know if this is true there's an rangang that's fishing with a spear he's hanging off of a Branch over this River and he's got a speed there's a photo of it I just don't know if it's true it looks so good and it's always one of those things yeah it's it's one of those things that I've always wanted to Google and I'm just I'll get to that tomorrow and I just never get to it I got other in my life to worry about by but now easy to F people out these days but I remember I just remember so I I have to get do you see it Jamie do you I don't see it on I don't see it on Snopes but it says it's true although the ape didn't sufficiently didn't develop the skill enough to catch fit whatever show the picture this is what's crazy look at this come on son are you kidding me this is true okay if this is true that's a goddamn weapon

84:06that orangutang is sticking a long stick into the water trying to it's true although ape did not develop sufficient skill to catch any fish yet he's try yet this is insane you would think hum would speed up that Evolution right if we exactly man they're probably learning from watching fishermen and yeah you might have to learn that water refraction thing and that might not be capable of doing that all right yeah that's right water refraction is it's a big factor in Bow Fishing these people with fish with bows and arrows when you look at a wa like if you look at a fish say if you look down in the water and you see like the fish would be where this laptop is it's not really there it's like 6 in lower than that but there's this weird refraction thing going on cuz you're looking through water so it's like looking through like a fun house mirror kind of so you have

84:59to learn how to shoot under and the rang tank might not be able to figure that out very smart Jamie did you figure that on your own you wizard powerful Jamie yeah that's so that's that makes a lot of sense but how crazy is it seeing him try that a rank tank by himself with a pole I mean he's not in a zoo he's not like at the circus nobody taught him that those things are smart as man he's going to be a crazy karate dude who goes out out to the Jungle starts teaching monkeys how do you Kendo look at him give them swords and can you imagine if they got oh my God suppli the gorillas with swords samurai swords I mean that's Planet of the Apes is not that far off how hard would it be to teach him like if Jane Goodall got all evil and started teaching them how to cut you know Jane Goodall believes in Bigfoot does she yeah she might be crazy there's a there's comeback for bigfoot

85:51right there she might be crazy she's not not not only does she believe she's certain she's certain is there video of her talking about it yeah yeah pull up Jane good Jane Goodall believes in Bigfoot it's insane when you listen to it like she's way smarter than me and she knows way more about primates than I do so I talk and I say I don't think Bigfoot's real he might be but I don't think it's real but when I hear someone as smart as her who basically lives in the jungle I mean she's in the jungle so goddamn much she might as well live in the jungle and this is what she says listen to this not be her talking we'll see no I'm pretty sure it is now I know you do wonderful chimp calls well I'm going to do the greeting it's the kind of sound you'd hear if you went to gomi and you climbed up onto the ridge how long is this video and if you're lucky you chimpanzee who's

86:43calling out saying here I am it's a wonderful day where are you and wow and each one has his or her own individual voice you know exactly who's calling where's Bigfoot bro it's a pleasure to speak with you um I want to know if you believe there are any undiscovered lar species you're talking about Yeti or big fooot or Su is that what he's talking about yes yes he is uh pretty much I'm out of the loop go ahead well now you'll be amazed when I tell you that I'm I'm sure that they exist I've talked to so many Native Americans who've all described the same sound two who've seen them there was little tiny snippet in the newspaper just last week which says that British scientists have found what they believed to be a Yeti hair and that the um scientist in the Natural History Museum in London couldn't identify it as any known animal did you always have this belief that

87:41they existed well I'm a romantic so I always wanted them to exist animals were my passion from even before I could speak apparently I think that's it um well a couple couple people told her that saw one so that's what she said she didn't see it she's been in the jungle for 75 years but that they're not supposed to be in the jungle though where she goes they're supposed to be in the woods where is um what did she say the University of what see see if you can figure out what she said like what university is that is testing a Yeti hair cuz I think that's I would have heard about that they don't it's not a know like when I was on the Sci-Fi show we tested some stuff we tested hair we t with there's a guy Todd disotell from um um some one big university in New York City I forget which one NYU I guess yeah I guess he's an NYU Guy and um hope I'm not wrong

88:36Todd but he's um a geneticist and so we ran tests on uh feces and on hair and uh the hair was Bare hair and the bare too and maybe some dog hairs too some what made him think he was Bigfoot not him he didn't think it was at all we got Bigfoot no no he's he's dedicated to disproving it but there was other scientists that gave us stuff that's that's that's the one I'm talking about like what made him think this was it was Bigfoot it doesn't smell like bear Bro smell it smell it how would they know this got maybe the bear had uh bad fish or something well they can't even agree on what it eats they were so sure it was Bigfoot they can't agree they can't agree on what Bigfoot eats I'm good who the discovered that big foot we got to find that dude I met that dude I met that dude the guy that found the yeah yeah yeah I had a conversation with him too he's a nice guy he's a

89:31teacher okay in a school where did he find school teacher in Oregon found it out in the woods he's like this has got to be Bigfoot I'm going to take it with me I would think Bigfoot would lay logs like as big as my thigh just giant like you ever see an elephant take a and you see his open up and you go good Lord like just flopping out of there this giant that's what I imagine from pigfoot do you believe that there um you know some people believe in Bigfoot but they also believe in a different kind of Bigfoot it's like a different kind of like Christian Church it's like Lutheran they believe yes we believe in Bigfoot but we believe it's an interdimensional being I've heard that one what do you think the chances of that being real uh probably probably 100% listen not not just Bigfoot listen bro I don't believe I believe it's real okay I got to stop you right here bro

90:30I'm 1 18 Native American uh my grandmother's side and uh those our our people our people have long known of the existence of what we call the OM Ma I have a bunch of different names for it you know what when I go is a new name every time I go up to uh Oregon or Washington or do a seminar I ask the guys by show of hands who believes in Bigfoot and most of them do most of them do yeah well keep most of them have heard stories you know I believed in it for the longest time and I don't disbelieve in it today I don't disbelieve in it but that's one you can make fun of but I I if it if they found Bigfoot I wouldn't be like oh I'd be like oh that's real I definitely don't disbelieve in it and you know what and I'll I'll just say it I think maybe he is interdimensional you know what I mean that's how that's my gut feeling I'm going with my instinct bro you know you can take your science

91:26but at the end of the day it's all about faith bro it's all about knowing in your heart it makes sense that's why you can't find them just disappears I know in my heart and I'll defend it with my life that's the only answer I know bro it's interdimensional bro that's what I'm thinking bro that's why they can't find him you can't put Bigfoot on camera bro he knows about cameras it's not going to happen man he's not going to appear where's a camera or disbelief just cuz he doesn't wear clothes doesn't mean he's primitive he's super intelligent they know you don't believe bro he's at one with nature he's not going to be near you unless you're pure he's super intelligent you can't find him you've got to live with the Sasquatch for them to bigot don't you in there's a a bunch of dudes who've claimed to have had like friendships with Sasquatches like they move into the woods and they

92:13stay there for months at a time and then they uh they they tell people they had these stories and there's vid there's audio recordings of what they call Samurai talk you want to hear audio recordings that people think is a Sasquatch you want to laugh you ready to laugh hard I I could do Sasquatch she didn't say it was at a uh University it's the Natural History Museum in London okay okay no no no no no Eddie Eddie killing isn't that Bigfoot Jesus Christ no that's Bigfoot you just made that up you can't just make a noise say that was Bigfoot they have uh it's the dumbest recording ever Samurai chatter listen to this get ready for this you're gonna you're GNA blow a gasket we had to analyze this on the show this is how when I knew my show was Northern and he was there one time with a friend and uh every evening they used to hear some absolutely bizarre noises

93:09and calls and they couldn't figure out what the hell it was and um so they took up a tape recorder one time and this is what they recorded okay it is very bizarre indeed we decided to record the sounds and put on a CD and a cassette and make them available to people oh what a good move believe these creatures are trying to communicate with us though and we as we speak are having the Linguistics uh people look into it they are very encouraged what they're saying so far as that humans looking into that the range supersedes what a human can do the range supersedes were shown by a previous study at the University of Wyoming to be U spontaneous and uh no signs of being uh re-recorded or pre-recorded at altered speeds so the idea of a hopax is very probable as far as professionals are concerned at this time what year was this that they made this video got uploaded

94:322013 look at that does anything look more like a man in a monkey suit than that picture but here's the thing imagine if they really did sound like that I mean what does chimp sound stupid too if you heard that but like more complicated with an actual language like dolphin noises sound stupid if Dolphins didn't make those noises and you heard the dolphin noise like you'd be like that's not a language what is that how weird imagine if that shit's real could you imagine there's like 20 of them they're all just living deep deep deep in the woods what's more believable Bigfoot or lock nest I think Loch nness is probably a really big fish like some kind of really big fish like a sturgeon or some something something really big that uh there's not that many of them you see that video of that guy petting a great white shark that a great white shark just yeah it's on my Instagram oh really

95:43yeah yeah yeah maybe I saw it on your Instagram you might have yeah it's ridiculous insane one of crazy weirdest videos I've ever seen in my life like I don't great white plan it's like it's coming out of the water and he's touching its nose W I know what the no wonder Pirates are scared and you know they probably deal with that on the daily dud can you imagine can you imagine a pirate ends up on on the coast of South Africa oh my god dude the story is there yeah that's great just hang out there they're just they're just a shitload of them there look how insane this is this is so insane it just keeps opening its mouth and those gums look at the gums and then these Destructor teeth they are scarier than any monster in any movie ever and they're 100% real look at the teeth on that thing man I mean what the hell and they fly out of the water oh my God oh my God those things are so insane

96:48just imagine that clamping down on you I mean it's it's cartoonish a a shark's teeth are cartoonish they're giant swords serrated edge swords and there's rows of them in their mouth so if one snaps off another one moves forward what a just spectacular animal just the one of the craziest creations of nature or Thor did he make sharks was it Odin who makes the sharks who makes sharks yeah if it was a god which God would make the Sharks oh I don't know that's a good question that thing I can't watch this Jamie I'm freaking out too if I had if I had a hundred trillion dollars I'd build this instead of an octagon it's just this giant ocean and put great white and killer whale in there to fight killer whales win every time you think so every time yeah every time great whites are not smart and they're not nearly as mobile they're not smart they just swim around think how do the tank

97:54what would you never seen videos of how long you think it would take before the killer whale attack the great w you just dump them in a big tank quick would you pay to watch that um you can watch it on YouTube I'm G to make this no but you can there's never any good video of it I would never put there's no good video of a a killer whale jacking it's like splashy I would say yes but you can never put a killer whale in a tank I think putting a killer whale in a tank is just beyond far 10 minutes no no no no you can't do that force it to fight I think it's like forcing a person to fight it's like picking up a could do anything okay well you're going to go in a helicopter and pick up some guy from the middle of the bornean jungle and make him fight in a cage fight would you do that would you drop him in there where the guy was trying to kick his ass or drop him in there with a wild that

98:40wouldn't be that excting dog or something that wouldn't be that wouldn't be that exciting I'm talking about the most exciting possible match of I know but what I'm saying is dolphins and whales and killer whales are too smart it's up to do that to them oh I see they're too smart I see what you're saying that's why I would never do a great way would never have a shot never shot maybe they get a a rabid one from South they got to find a a good one we found a good with found a gamer killer whales I think I think they could definitely get the babies maybe you get a dumb killer whale or yeah baby killer whale and a full grown ferocious great white this the most ridiculous conversation probably the great white would bite right through it right if it was a baby but when they're grown fully grown adults I think killow whales are bigger and they're way smarter

99:24they're just way smarter and they just go right after the sharks they go after them and decide to them up there's a uh the video is this apparently they were watching a mother and her daughter or her son you know the mother and her baby and a killer whale uh the killer whale was uh swimming around with its baby and the shark showed up and the killer whale was like hold on I'll be right back just went and that thing up they got that on video yeah they got it on video and then I think the killer whale brought the shark up didn't it bring the display it I'm I'm trying to look it up now they like got a recreated thing of it it looked like cuz it wasn't that there's no way they could have got a video camera down there look how much bigger it is see that's what it showed at the end this is the dead shark at the end so this is the killer whale biting the out of that shark they

100:13just don't have real good footage of how it went down that's footage from some Discovery Channel show they just PED in probably right they spliced they do that all the time dude now now when I'm watching them Discovery channnel it's like you like dude there's no way you got that shot you got that whole thing happening you see it now it seems it seems fake now it seems like you see it now yeah but killer whales versus Sharks I think unless the shark is really big and the killer whales really young I think killer whes are just way too smart they're like like a person almost just they don't move like us so we don't consider them like us but they have crazy languages great white versus dolphin they kill dolphins they eat them great whites kill dolphins they eat them I didn't know that it's they kill them I thought I thought they sharks up they do they Dolphins up chips remember what what

101:05show was it me make sure I'm correct about them eating them I know they kill them how could they catch a dolphin maybe they I don't eat them they kill them dude I'm telling you kill dolphins they kill whales too no not great whites no orcas did we say great whites you saying oh oh K Dolphins great whites do too if they can if they can get them I was talking about great whites oh my God I'm tired I thought you said that's so stupid I thought you said killer whales but for sure a great white ain't GNA kill no dolphin right a great white they can yeah if they bite him yeah they can get them if they up if somebody up but I think that the size difference between killer whales and great whites is just too big but it's very disappointing when you find out that great whites are that killer whales rather not great whites I I keep saying great whites the killer whales are

101:54killing dolphins and they kill other whales too yeah like uh you know the Arctic the the North Pole's melting well they used there's like uh these whales that live out there that killer whales can't get to because the ice they can hang in the ice cuz they don't have a dorsal fin or something and they could swim through the ice but now that all the ice is gone killer whales are coming up to eat them yeah is that crazy so they're they're eating other whales so much that it's up the eso economy cuz they rely on those uh cuz they kill those whales but now the killer whales are killing the whales they kill isn't that nuts they rely on whales they kill yeah God so they need help they need to do something about the killer whale problem how many people are up there do they like it up there there people that are living off whales are they enjoying themselves what is it what

102:39keeps them out there there's no F there's not a fence right I mean they they stay it's they should come to Phoenix 100 below zero they're like we're just going to tough it out just not good too it's not good like as far as like the way they're they're their health is well it doesn't the population doesn't grow out there it's always the same kids end up graduating and saying that like Curtis HOV Austin head instructor from Alaska they all get the out they don't stay well Alaska is one thing like Anchorage is badass but this is like the where the people are eating whales and they're like north of that you know they're like way up there they're like in the Frozen Parts there's the Anchorage is actually close to the coast so it's not a bad place live yeah I've never been to Anchorage it's great man is it like a Vancouver like a colder Vancouver where it's only dark

103:31out for like an hour in the summer it's weird you go outside at like 4 o'clock in the morning it's bright out bright out like 5 o'l at night bright out and it's like 4 in the morning you're like what the is going on here I got a little of that in Sweden because when you go to Sweden it's kind of North so it's like uh the sun's still out and it's 11:00 at night you know and the sun's still you know in your face yeah but I didn't uh I've never been that North never been to Alaska it's crazy up there you did comedy up there what yeah did comedy and Anchorage with Ari it's beautiful did you get people are badass to did you get in some uh bow and arrowing no we were fishing we went salmon fishing while we're up there it's beautiful man just beautiful that was the first time I saw an actual Live In the Flesh Eagle like outside of the zoo like watching a big ass eagle fly right

104:20over your head is a trip we had a eagle fly you know 100 yards over our head they'll take a baby won't they uh they probably avoid people but if you leave your kid out on the lawn yeah yeah if you just stand back and let if they're hungry especially if there's something wrong with them like they're too tired to go get a salmon they're getting old I mean Eagles get old too that's when big like a lot of animals get dangerous when they get older like cats big cats they get dangerous they they get older they can't catch dogs anymore you know and they're hungry man they got they got to figure something out Eagle taking your baby can you imagine how you'd feel if you're you looking up I'm seeing an eagle fly off with your kid there's that video right it's fake it's ended up being fake I think I belied it for two minutes beli I believed it I believed that just like I

105:11believed the orang Tang fishing video oh man oh wait a minute so it's not real no it is it is real he just didn't didn't pull it off but it really was trying to do it the rang Tang was yeah man this's just so many videos like that and so many it's hard to know what is right and what's not you know with the photoshopping skills like Photoshop Steve oh my god oh man that guy's obsessed he's so good like things like that right like you look at those pictures like okay that could be that could be real or not real you know it's so good some of don't mean you have photo evidence really you really do well I when is it going to be how long is it going to be and before we I guess it's probably already happened right where they've proven that photographs that are used in propaganda are are faked it's proba must have happened didn't happen like during the Iraq War wasn't there

106:01like some faked faked photos of missiles or something like that God damn it why I bet they do that all the time they they green screen and they pretend they're in in uh Lebanon and when they're really in Virginia they they've been busted pretending they're in the Iraq war bombs are going off and they got helmets on and they have been busted doing that yeah they have yeah it's like YouTube It's they they they left the the cameras rolling for the tape is like an hour you can go on YouTube CNN during the 91 Operation Freedom War uh they were fake in the news that is so funny so ridiculous it's you know what and good for them they're supposed to be doing that they're supposed to be doing that you run that Empire you know what I mean I don't think that's what they're doing man yeah they're they're trying to put together they're saving money they're trying to

106:50put together entertainment man kind of put together entertainment hey what about operation what about operation Mockingbird you take that that was real and uh that was a real which one was that uh the CIA uh infiltrating uh broadcasting and journalism and they take for propaganda purposes this is a real operation well there's been some real operations that are undeniable that are pretty crazy yeah and then how crazy is it that uh who CNN you know that's that's it's rumored that based on how they present stuff like that's Pro based on how it's going down to what they show what they're pushing and based on the agenda you know any you know any will say now you can't believe Fox News even retards say that even retards say you can't believe Fox News everybody knows that well CNN's just like that it's just the other side so that's easy to believe and then Anderson

107:46Cooper was in the CIA he denied it for a long time then he came out and said I was just there for a summer he was like an intern right is that what he said once you're in the once you're in you're in you know he's in you're in he was in how come you denied it at first and then his family comes from s super uh wealthy background the Vanderbilts and and all that it's all connect it's like I don't know man I was going to say um the other one that's really crazy is Operation midnight climax you ever hear about that one nope the government ran brothel in San Francisco in New York and they uh got guys who came in to get laid and they dosed them with LSD so they could study them cuz uh that's not a conspiracy theory no no that's real that's 100% real Freedom of Information Act operation midnight climax how the CIA do San Francisco citizens with LSD now how crazy does that sound how crazy

108:38if we said that happened today like what it's going on today it would be you would be thought as a crazy man but it's happened before unless that's not true no no this is true well then it happened before how BL this up a little bigger so I could read it here it goes you're crazy if you think they'll do it again lift it up so consider nuts that's crazier than any conspiracy theory I believe in that's the craziest one listen to what it says it's been over 50 years but Wayne Richie says he can still remember how it felt to be dosed with acid he was drinking Bourbon and soda with other Federal officers on a holiday party in 1957 at the US Post Office Building on Seventh and Mission streets they were cracking jokes and swapping stories suddenly the room began to spin the red and green lights on the Christmas tree in the corner spiraled Wild wildly Richie's body temperature Rose his gaze

109:26fixed on the dizzying colors around him he got jacked somebody dosed him but that's not this isn't uh this this guy is not the guy I think this is he's talking about being dosed at a party he's not talking about operation midnight climax is he cuz midnight climax was about brothel that's why they were calling it operation midnight Climax and they fig this this gu talking about getting feeling the yeah he definitely well he's a let's see here sound like he was high they were participating against their will in these studies is what it was essentially whatever just go Google into it look into it folks Google into it I don't think that's a real term but it's really interesting because what had happened was they were doing these studies on soldiers and they just couldn't get people to do it anymore people like get the out of here like they didn't want to do it anymore

110:19so then they started to figure let's just try it on some other people people they figured if they did it in a wh house nobody would say anything you know guys don't want to admit they were there in the first place just dose them up with acid they walk out of there all crazy yeah that nuts smart God damn it they do a lot of smart God damn it it's it's all set up so bril brilliantly I mean just the fact everybody knows that the there's uh corruption at the at the at the top levels in the CIA not everybody but at there's a lot of corrupt everybody knows that and it's okay it's like the the the people that are really running like the corporations and the international Bankers like they the CIA is right there with nobody to uh Sue no one to throw in jail no one's accountable it's just right there it's just they're involved in all this just like what you just posted

111:10they're involved in that no one's accountable well you know what I think is going to happen what I think what I see as possible to happen the same thing that's happening with uh performance-enhancing drugs in the UFC that was someone like Jeff nitzki when they have these usada guys that are just showing up at your house four o'clock in the morning taking random tests they have all these crazy things they could test for that no one even knew about you know so slowly but surely everybody's forced to be natural and compete naturally and that's what we're seeing right now in the UFC just just it's just too it's too risky they're too good they're too sophisticated right so as far as we know everybody's fighting natural but we also know that they definitely didn't they cheated like a everybody did in other organizations we know it we know guys who did it we know guys that

111:58would just be Juiced out of their mind and everybody else was Juiced out of their mind too and that's how the game was being done everybody was competing on that level so we know that so in a lot of ways I think that's because of something like you know the the new understanding of how to test people and something like the UFC hiring novitzky to go after this right but that's data right it's information all that information has does come out they're forced to do it straight and narrow I think that's going to be the case with government at a certain point in time I think the people that are making a fuckload of money of Corporations you're going to make a fuckload of money anyway but they're not going to be able to manipulate environmental laws the way they're doing now and get away with it it'll be more transparent they not be able to influence politicians to influence laws

112:42to to to make it favor their business they just won't be able to do it so easily I think there's always going to be money to be made there's always going to be people buying cars and buildings and it's there always going to be but I think they'll be less in the future that's what I think corporate they're still going to make I don't think I don't think you can hide things forever when it comes to like some of the practices that some corporations that are unscrupulous will engage in that aren't necessarily ethical like how about the BP oil spill right like how about how the other you know the way they cleaned it up and the um they made people there was people in that town that I mean what how much of a loss was that to them how could you possibly compensate them for that I don't know too much about the BP oil spill BP Oil spells pretty crazy I know it

113:32killed the gulf and all that but I don't know the details I don't know there was some kind of you know of the report I don't know anything about it I haven't looked into it it was one of those um things that they pull the oil out of the ground those exped a lot of animals and R A lot of Industry shooting oil into the ocean yeah it's crazy it's it's amazing how many gallons were being pumped into the ocean and even more amazing how the ocean just sort of absorbs it what do you think of trump that's a long question if we have time for this I think it's uh it's this is a strange time it's strange to see a president that is okay whatever you whether you like him or don't like him whether you support his beliefs or you think he's the worst thing ever I'm just looking at it as objectively like as a performance piece there's never been a guy that understands how to manipulate

114:33the media the way he does never no one even close he may everything he does is a big story he says outrageous things and because he says outrageous things they tune in to make sure he says more outrageous things the more outrageous things he he says the more people go he's saying outrageous things let's tune in he's the biggest show in town like it's not even close it's not even close who generates more attention who's got people more riled up about them people are bored as they're bored they're bored they hired Obama they thought everything was going to change and it I guess did a little in some fronts and it was good socially and the world's evolving in that way in that direction anyway so that's all good but guantan Mo Bay still open people are still in Afghanistan it seems like the you know it's still still chaos everywhere I don't know if anybody could have ever fixed it

115:26right we're we're just bored we're bored like what is this what are we doing what is this world why are we in the Middle East what is going on why I have to worry about war why I have to worry about gas why I have to worry about global warming what's going to happen with the polar bears God damn it and then all of a sudden this guy comes along telling you how big his dick is he says I'm going to build up a wall a million miles high keep the Mexicans out it's it sounds First wall they buil the First wall they built they didn't finish yeah they already put up a wall it's crazy and everybody cheers you know and the Mexican president calls me up and says who's going to pay for that wall you're going to pay for that wall and the wall just got 10 feet higher he hangs up the phone and everybody's cheering pulls his di off just jerks off the you said that yes

116:09yeah he told the guy the wall just got 10 feet higher you know what I told him the wall just got 10 feet higher and everybody goes yeah oh I would love to see that CLP can you find that clip he's like he's like a a movie from the 80s yesterday the top person president of Mexico said we will never ever pay for that wall and the Press called me up and they said Calderon the head man top person he said he won't pay he won't pay for it and you know what I said I said the wall just got 10 feet higher that's right he it up by keep saying it's true it's true it's true he's so strange it's it's just so bizarre I feel like I feel like almost like I'm watching like one of them late night tele evangelist shows where somebody wants wants your money like you can't have my money look at you you already have money you can't get my money I it feels like it's fake it feels

117:13like this is the final piece of the simulation Theory yeah the final piece of the the the show where it's going to reveal that this has all been a comedy all along all been a strange comedy I mean what do you think uh he's really uh he's better than the other ones except for Bernie he's better than all the other people on the Republican side I mean Marco Rubio seems like a uh a reasonable guy and a lot of ways the way he talks I don't know exactly what his uh his beliefs are but him and Trump they get into these insult competitions and it looks so foolish it's like just because Trump does it don't just don't do it better than him don't do it better than him talk about how ridiculous it is and don't don't allow that guy to like they he talking about how big his hands are and they're going back and forth with each other and insulting his hair and insulting his spray tan like they're

118:04like it's like they're roasting against each other like this is not presidential but you understand you guys have a limited amount of time and this way bag on his tan the fake tan yeah and and Trump was bagging on Rubio wearing makeup the whole thing is ridiculous like this is a terrible way to have these people together like to have these people all competing then what you're going to get is who's the best at like giving you a sound bite under pressure you're not going to get who's the best leader you're going to get the who's the best at doing that debate thing that's what you're going to get because it's a weird thing you're standing up there on a Podium you're right next to a guy who's talking about you what he's saying is not even true and like you can't even respond you got to wait like you man it's a stupid way to talk and the fact they time them they give

118:49them like ready go no this is what you do you let talk for a long period of time if they're long- winded and boring people don't like them anymore that's what happens you put them in a long form have them talk for hours and hours let him talk on a podcast every presidential candidate should have a long form podcast that they have to do every day and we see whether or not people want to listen to you not like have someone barking at you on the left and bar tell me what the you can do and then have someone talk to them that understands what can and can't be done have someone who's a real political expert sitting down and asking them some hard questions and do it all the time and that and based on that and their qualifications but based on like back and forth bickering with each other and insulting each other on our spray tans and you're that's so crazy this is the you guys are going to run

119:39the greatest army the world has ever known and you're acting like this is so stupid like this isn't just like a bunch of guys uh you know trying to win a game show this is if you win you run the world world like and you you're insulting each other on makeup and tan you should be saying do you know how stupid it is that we're talking about we have a a five minute time period that you get to talk in or whatever the it is and you're going to spend your time insulting each other on hand size and you guys are babies you know you can't be the king no you guys are not the there's no way you could be the best so like he is involved in that and Ted Cruz is like super religious which always makes me go man I don't know about that Ben Carson is super reasonable but super religious this he's the Trump is a guy that stands out is at least he's a rich guy that doesn't give

120:27a are there anything uh any good things that Trump says that you agree with um you know what man I honestly have been so blown away by the bad things that he said that I've barely paid attention to the good things like but the that he said about Mexico like you know well someone's doing all the raping like you know the bringing over murderers and rapists and I was like oh my God like you just that's a whole country you're talking about Millions people you're talking about you know like well someone's doing the raping he says some crazy and it works man it works as far as like if it's all a PR campaign and he just gets in there and he says ladies and gentlemen look I said what I said and I did what I did to prove a point that our media system is corrupt this whole system is broken it needs to be fixed it's like a it's like a bad computer it needs to be rebuilt this is not good

121:15like you can't have a guy just Juke the system like I just did that's would be the most amazing thing if he gets into office and says this is a very important position so no more insults no more and now that I'm here I'm going to H just hire the best people we try to figure out what the wrong with this country how amazing would that be he said look I had to insult these dummies in order to get in there I couldn't let Hillary talk I had to go in there guns blazing I had to take out Ben Sanders and Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio but now that all that's done we can all work together what do you think of Hillary what is your opinion I don't know I don't know how you can be entrenched in the system for as long as has been entrenched in the system and not be not be the the past that's the system right the system is these special interest groups and lobbyists and you know making deals and

122:08having you know sitting down with all these people at these T in one hand she knows more about government than any of them she knows more about government than for sure Trump right I mean he knows about influence he knows how to influ uence politicians he donates money to politicians he understands all that but as far as like being in the boardrooms when the goes down Hillary's like she's been like right in there so as far as like qualifications no one's got more qualifications for president than Hillary does the problem is do you uh here's here we all agree I think we all agree and this is not a knock against Hillary this is we all agree that this system is it's ridiculous representative government is kind of crazy the idea that you can have a bunch of people they vote and they vote for one person that person represents that state and then the state they all all they try to pick the

122:59president you have the Electoral College and all this wackiness we all agree that that's kind of crazy right we all agree it doesn't make much sense there's a lot of things we don't get to vote on there's a lot of decisions the country goes one way or another way that we were really unhappy with and it would be nice if we had like a giant public debate so the only person that's going to change that the only person who's going to knock that off its ass is Trump cuz he's the only guy who's got his own money like that from the Republican side he's the only guy and the the in the Democrat side Hillary's got a shitload of money but she's kind of a part of the system and Bernie Sanders you know he's got some good ideas socially wants to make marijuana legal you know he wants to wants to help people wants to wants to like unite us he wants to pay for student education which I think is a

123:45great idea wants to raise up the minimum wage I think that's a great idea too even though I don't know about econom Comics so it's like there's not a lot of great choices I guess like Hillary would be the best choice on paper because she's been there right on paper or no not even on paper she's a crook you think she's a crook do you know we're on the air like H we're live oh is that bad this is live isn't this is debate talking right oh yeah yeah but you can't say she's a crook she got to say allegedly allegedly allegedly what what makes you say allegedly she's a crook oh man watch that documentary The Clinton Chronicles and all the stuff that uh you know the Whitewater scandal and all that stuff I mean dude she's she's in the Bilderberg Group come on she's is she she's deep her and Bill are deep deep deep that's not a conspiracy theory that's real she's in the Bilderberg Group the

124:35Bilderberg Group is not a conspiracy theory anymore they the the Rothchild or the the Rockefellers refer to it as the Bilderberg Group they they started it yeah uh it's they flaunt it now and she's in it her and Bill they're very powerful and they're deep deep deep in the top they're way up there they needed Bill to run everything through Arkansas they had to bring them in they ran everything through Arkansas that's not a conspiracy theory they ran all their stuff through Arkansas they needed the governor uh to cooperate and that was Bill Clinton and to show their appreciation he became the next president he went from Arkansas obscure then he went to now he's part of the Bilderberg Group just like that some Arkansas governor just like that dude that uh Naros on uh Netflix yeah I finally finished it dude oh my god dude I didn't I wouldn't have I wouldn't have

125:30gone into it if it wasn't for you I really wasn't interested in it oh I just was like oh yeah more drug stuff you got trust me more oh my God I do trust you not more that's cartel land is next cartel land is next iar you're not the only one sounds sounds like a generic little dumb little run-of-the-mill documentary it's not it's special damn it's a special document that's going to blow your mind and again that uh how big oil conquered the world like the history of the Rockefellers that's the craziest Netflix that's where it all came from that's where it all it's you know they conspiracy theorists or whatever you want to call them they all they claim that it's all connected 911 JFK like it's the same people and they're all connected it's the same families it's the same secret society and it goes back well it's most of it most of it started with John D Rockefeller and and uh

126:21standard oil when you learn that holy the history and you know the craziest thing about the whole thing is he was so into monopolizing oil and everything once it was it wasn't just oil banking he got into everything big farm he had control of everything he was so John Rockefeller was so dominant he was playing he was the first billionaire he was ruling the world man and uh the one thing is that all hemp or marijuana conspiracy theorist they all are aware of the reer manous propaganda we all know that as as weed uh enthusiasts we know about the the propaganda that the government you know and then finally they it worked after 10 years of all this uh propaganda that made weed look like it killed you and stuff and made you do crazy they made it illegal uh and we all know that that's from Big Industry like Dupont and the Rockefellers and all that we all know

127:11that that they were trying to shut down the industry they were blaming it on this Mexican smok and weed but we all know that as weed enthusiasts but you know what you don't know is you know alcohol prohibition was also because of John Rockefeller he was he supported anti-alcohol groups and blew them up and donated Millions to blow him up to get to outlaw alcohol cuz he thought saw it as a threat to gasoline whoa yes and this is not a conspiracy theory alcohol prohibition was all backed by uh John D Rockefeller anything it was a threat to gasoline yes alcohol because they thought people were gonna make like ethanol no no no they he just wanted to ban eth he didn't he wanted to crush the ethanol business right right so but the way he did it is to create this hysteria with drink everyone has a drinking problem everyone's killing each other so he did the same thing he did both of

128:04them he did the same you're gonna find out about this this is not a conspiracy theory so he so they made uh they were there were this Jamie yes quickly how big oil conquered the world but but he he funded uh the anti- saloon League it was run by one of his good friends and that was took and you know what ended up happening they same thing they outlawed alcohol you couldn't drink alcohol but they said what about the alcohol for cars and and uh they wrote in the law that you could still make alcohol for cars but you got to put petroleum in it so that people don't drink it so it made it it killed the business so now they got to put oil in it if you want to sell it and then it killed it killed all he dude he killed everything and he got busted for everything John D rockefeller's dad was name they called him devil Bill his dad they know all about his dad this is not

128:55a conspiracy theory their the historians will tell you about his father he created him he was a rapist snake oil salesman running from the law changed his name uh devil Bill devil bill that was his name so he had a bunch of sons and John de Rockefeller was one and he was known he wanted to he was quoted as saying I cheat my sons every day I want him as sharp as can be he just beat the living trust out of him and just drowned all their trust so John D Rockefeller grew up not trusting anybody look at this Rockefeller Ford in the secret history of alcohol wow there a secret history regarding alcohol that you won't hear in the six o'cl news cars and everything else running on internal combustion engines can run on alcohol at least as well as they can run on gasoline indeed engines were built back in 1870 that could run using alcohol or gasoline a New York Times article from 1908

129:49enthusiastically States autoist discuss alcohol as fuel great future ahead for use in commercial wagons says Professor lock lack lock what is it how do you say that look look look look um tests with motor truck ER huitt tells Engineers of his results with gasoline and alcohol in the same engine Henry Ford said that alcohol was a cleaner nicer better fuel for automobiles than gasoline wow holy wow this is nuts man yeah it's the same thing it's it's a this is bananas gas propaganda or alcohol propaganda that is so crazy because you can make alcohol without fossil fuels so if you made alcohol today you could fuel I mean people can make alcohol right people make alcohol apparently anything any vegetable that ferments you can use as fuel it's really simple anything do you know Neil Young has that well he has diesel though he doesn't make alcohol fuel but he makes diesel he makes

130:49biodiesel he has a giant Ranch I think it's norn isn't it the same thing if it ferments it's maybe you call it diesel but it's fermented vegetable matter I don't know I'm just guessing I don't know but that's what Henry Ford said Henry Ford said anything that you could ferment apples anything you could turn into biofuel that's crazy and John D Rockefeller that's what he was all about he's the richest man in the world was raised by a psychopath and he dude he got busted for monopolizing oil they finally indicted him he had to break out break apart Standard Oil and made him a billionaire that's what made him rich is when he got busted when he had to sell everything off he just he took over education dude when you learn how this in a documentary yeah what is it how big oil conquered the world on YouTube oh my God I'm scared yeah scared you you you actually

131:38learn where it all comes from hey 100% it's all 100% 100% it's it's psycho yeah yeah one dude what and all his sons now his sons and his grandsons it kind of makes sense right I mean if you think about it mean the really super ambitious people in business are a lot of times the most Cutthroat the most you mean how competitive you got to be to be like a William Randol Hurst or one of these you know how he took over uh universities dude he wanted to take over the world he wasn't just trying to sell gas he was trying to take over the world our education system is all based on Rockefeller Foundation like he strategically wanted to make school so that we got people just smart enough just this isn't conspiracy theory just smart enough to work they didn't want anybody too smart that's how the school systems were designed did he say this some it's dude it's Watch the

132:30documentary and then you come back have you seen it Jamie now you just open up know this how this is how he did it this is how he did it he would just donate he he'd go to a university like the University of Chicago and just say I'm going to give you millions of dollars and they said oh he goes but I got to have a couple of my people on your board to make sure it's spent right they like okay so he get his people in and then they just over and they designed they designed history John D Ro Rockefeller got 20 20 historians and designed the history they designed it that's why when people you know you make fun of history in in in ninth grade books you make fun of that history it's a joke right it's put was put together by the by uh um Rockefeller dude look at that number his Peak wealth was 318.00 billion based on the 2007 us do oh my God God he lived in 98 he was a bro look at his dad he

133:26lived to be 98 years old oh my God his dad Big Bill rocker they called him devil bill they called him a lot of things but sh man who spent most of his time thinking of schemes to avoid actual work nevertheless thanks to the guidelines of his mom Eliza a homemaker and devout Baptist John D grew up to be quite a hardworking man okay Interesting Man interesting check that out what's it called Big Oil what what is it how big oil conquered the world that's if you're a conspiracy theorist you know most people don't go beyond JFK there's so much in just JFK and then all this you know if you want to get into Watergate and the Iran Contra and all the 911 there's so much information that's it's so hard to get into mult multiple things so but once you once you got that covered go back and find out how it all started and You' learn when you go when you find out that

134:19that uh George see Year's dad Prescott Bush started the CIA and then you go back and his dad Samuel Bush was was uh uh Frank rockefeller's right-hand man and how the bushes and the Rockefellers have have always ran when you go back Samuel Bush uh George Senor think about how old he is his grandfather ran with Rockefeller you have to do a podcast you and Michael Shermer who's that the guy who just left oh man he didn't want he didn't want to talk I I just grabbed him from the moment he walked in you think Tower 7 went down on its own the moment you don't ignore Tower 7 people say don't want to ignore but I do got to wrap up this podcast I do have to end I got to get the out of here I'm so sorry I would love to talk about but I it's way late I got to get out of here but uh we sort of broke down the UFC we did for a while did we totally did Connor and Nate are both

135:14Legends right now both of them Holly Hol Mesa Tate both Legends right now we're going to look back at this 20 years from now and have an old man narrate the highlights and it's going to be insane sitting in your wheelchair thinking about this yeah it was classic classic I think it was the greatest two fights ever in UFC history I think that was the greatest UFC ever that was the greatest UFC ever no doubt and you know people keep saying I keep saying it's the greatest ever because they keep getting better this that was those were the two highlights to me that made me I mean it was bananas chaos even in Conor's defeat he looked like a just like a global global Barbarian and he handled the loss like a champ right after the loss yeah right after the loss he handled it like a champ all right you we'll be back tomorrow um uh tomorrow's Chris Bell right from uh prescription thugs you

136:04ever seen that I want to see that I heard about that I want to see that I'm watching it tonight all right that's all rock too it's all thank you bye-bye big kiss