Winning the AI Race Part 2: Vice President JD Vance

The session opens with the host introducing Vice President JD Vance and noting that the last time he appeared on an All-In Summit stage, about 10 months earlier, he was not yet Vice President. The host says "obviously a lot has changed" and praises his performance in office. The greetings that follow are informal. They include a joke about one interviewer having been rude on an earlier podcast appearance, a line from the stage that "I'm the Vice President", and banter about a White House tour whose invitation has supposedly "been lost in the mail a few times".

Before the policy questions start, one interviewer frames the conversation as friendly but not uncritical. They say "We can differ on some of the margins" and add that Americans appreciate the pace and effectiveness of the administration's work, especially in the technology industry. That mix of agreement and pushback runs through the rest of the interview.

The first topic is immigration. An interviewer recalls an earlier exchange about deporting 20 million people at once. That approach was called chaotic, and the reply then was that it would be done "like a sandwich", a few bites at a time. Asked how it is going, the speaker says it is going well. He notes that criticism has come from people on the right who want deportations to move faster, and he says he shares that frustration. He gives two constraints: the courts "are trying to stop us at every step of the way", and until about a month before the interview ICE lacked the resources to process large numbers of people. He says that changed with "the big, beautiful bill" and with some court wins, so he expects the pace to "increase a little bit."

He then disputes a common criticism, that the Trump administration is deporting people more slowly than the Biden administration did. He calls this "a completely fake statistic." His reasoning is that under the previous administration, a person who entered illegally and was then processed and sent out counted both as an illegal entry and as a deportation. He argues that only the net figure matters. He offers a hedged arithmetic aside ("not a math expert, but I'm pretty sure that's zero") and says that in 2025 the country will have "the first net negative immigration number in about 50 or 60 years". The interview gives no underlying figures or source for that projection.